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INTERVIEW: Tems Talks 'BORN IN THE WILD' Album & Tour, Origin Of Afrobeats, Pregnancy Rumors, Favorite Artists · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that answer up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning everybody.
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  Speaker 3: It's the e j Envy Jess, hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
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  Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club Jess. It's on maternity leave.
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  Speaker 3: So Lauren is feeling in and we got a special
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  Speaker 3: guest in the building. Indeed, we have tis welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, how having me? I'm good, I'm really good. How
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  Speaker 4: are you? That's everyone here.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to lie look a little tired.
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  Speaker 4: I'm slightly tired, and I have it cold, you know,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm feeling good internality.
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  Speaker 2: So we have you decided to join us in spite.
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  Speaker 1: Of absolutely thank you, Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: How is it the headlining your own tour?
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  Speaker 4: It's it's a beautiful experience, to be very honest. I'm
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  Speaker 4: learning so much, but I'm just getting more comfortable on stage.
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  Speaker 4: It's almost becoming like a muscle memory at this point.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm just really glad I have my team with me,
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  Speaker 4: well like your family. And yeah, it's just been really,
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  Speaker 4: really good.
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  Speaker 5: You're just getting comfortable ons you got so much stage presence,
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  Speaker 5: like you seem like you just light up the whole building.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, but I feel like it's being refined,
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  Speaker 4: every show is better and better and better.
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, man, what was it like for you on
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  Speaker 6: stage in the beginning of all of this?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness, my first show ever, my leg was shaking,
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  Speaker 4: like I used to perform with my leg shaking?
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  Speaker 2: Like, what was your first show if you remember, Oh.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't my personal show, but my first like performance ever.
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  Speaker 4: I was in Legos. I started in Legos Naturia, I
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  Speaker 4: was there. I was mostly their first two years of
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  Speaker 4: my career.
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  Speaker 2: That was before you found the piece that you cannot buy.
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  Speaker 1: Leg shaking.
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  Speaker 2: I love that record, by the way, How.
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  Speaker 5: Did the feel to creating an anthem that, to me
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  Speaker 5: is like a mindfulness anthem you're going through if you've
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  Speaker 5: ever dealt with anxiety, if you ever dealt with depression,
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  Speaker 5: when you get those pockets of peace. I always think
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  Speaker 5: of that record when I get those pockets of peace.
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  Speaker 5: I did feel to create something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 4: I remember the day I made that song and it
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  Speaker 4: just it was really emotional for me because I was
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  Speaker 4: that was my release and just to see so many
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  Speaker 4: people connect to it and dogs apparently dogs dogs, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like it's like I can't believe it, Like it's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: It could explain the dogs thing to me. I'm lost.
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  Speaker 4: So it happened like maybe if you a while very
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  Speaker 4: like a long time ago about so if you play
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  Speaker 4: the beginning there, apparently that makes some dogs start howling
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  Speaker 4: on social media.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't believe it.
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  Speaker 4: I was, like what, I didn't believe it either, Like
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  Speaker 4: literally it was.
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  Speaker 7: Did you try it yourself, like trying to make a
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  Speaker 7: dog with the song? Like did you play the song
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  Speaker 7: for a dog? Did you play the song?
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  Speaker 1: No, I need to get a dog. I don't have
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  Speaker 1: a dog you want to? I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I just want one, like maybe.
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  Speaker 1: A cute, small one, maybe a big one.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe a small one, maybe a big one.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like the worstart picking out get them all?
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  Speaker 5: When you wrote that record, I don't know if you
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  Speaker 5: deal with you know, depression of anxiety, but you know
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  Speaker 5: they call it a glimmers. So glimmers are like the
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  Speaker 5: opposite of triggers. You know, how you'll see something that
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  Speaker 5: will trigger you, like glimmers are things that you know
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  Speaker 5: bring you joy and peace, you know in the moment.
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  Speaker 2: Did you write that record during a glimmer?
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  Speaker 1: Hmmm? It was? I wrote it.
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  Speaker 4: So I made the beat first, and when I made
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  Speaker 4: the beat, I was like, whoa, this beat is crazy,
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  Speaker 4: this beats is Oh my goodness, I have something. And
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  Speaker 4: that inspired me to just like start like freestyling, like
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  Speaker 4: oh and yeah, I guess so, I guess I had that.
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  Speaker 4: It was like an intense emotional day, you know, of release.
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  Speaker 4: Like after I made that song, I think I slept
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  Speaker 4: for hours because I had I just like laid everything on.
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  Speaker 6: What was on you? Like, what was it that you.
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, nothing that I came up.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just brushing my head talking.
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  Speaker 4: Remind me of that, you know that the girl that
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  Speaker 4: like she was talking and yeah, you know, I say.
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  Speaker 2: For international artists.
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  Speaker 3: You know a lot of artists want to break into
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  Speaker 3: the US market, right, and international artist always talk about
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  Speaker 3: how difficult it was, How difficult was it for you
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  Speaker 3: to break in over here?
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  Speaker 1: I I think I'm not even gonna lie. I don't.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't it was something that it came from like
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  Speaker 4: a bust of I don't know, like it just it
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  Speaker 4: was just it just happened so fast. I didn't I
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  Speaker 4: didn't even before you knew it, Like my songs are
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  Speaker 4: playing here I was like incredibly shocked. I can't tell
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  Speaker 4: you that I know how that happened.
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  Speaker 2: Did you try?
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  Speaker 3: It was one of those things like I want to
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  Speaker 3: wrap home first, and it just crossed over on a song.
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  Speaker 4: No, I was just doing me and it just like
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  Speaker 4: you know, of course essence was a huge part of that,
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  Speaker 4: and yeah, I was just doing me. I didn't really
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  Speaker 4: have expectations for what was going to come out of that.
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  Speaker 7: I saw in an interview you you were talking about
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  Speaker 7: the beginning of everything and you said, like you just
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  Speaker 7: woke up, like you dropped the song. You woke up
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  Speaker 7: the next day and people like where they knew your
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  Speaker 7: name and like they were calling your name and like
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  Speaker 7: it happened fast, right. But when you see moments like
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  Speaker 7: John Legend coming out and performing with you, and like
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  Speaker 7: Whinnie Harlowe's popping up at the shows, like do you
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  Speaker 7: ever have a moment on stagey You're like, oh wow,
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  Speaker 7: Like okay, like what does that feel like?
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  Speaker 1: Hm?
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  Speaker 4: I to be very honest, I have those moments when
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  Speaker 4: I see like extreme age gaps in my show my
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  Speaker 4: show the other day, I saw like a really old
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  Speaker 4: elderly man.
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  Speaker 2: What's elderly to you?
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  Speaker 1: He looked like he was sixty something.
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  Speaker 2: That's not.
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  Speaker 4: He had long he had long, gray white hair, and
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  Speaker 4: he was singing my song word forward bahlah bah. And
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  Speaker 4: in that same concert, there was a kid that was
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  Speaker 4: on her mom's shoulders. And that is what makes me
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  Speaker 4: feel like this is insane. You know, to be able
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  Speaker 4: to reach those extremes, that's insane to me.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's the emotion in your music though, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in the fact that you know, you're so emotional, you're
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  Speaker 2: so introspective, like people connect with that, like people feel
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  Speaker 2: what's real?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you don't seem like the type of front
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  Speaker 5: like you know you hear right now, like I don't
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  Speaker 5: give it really, I don't give a fuck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's interesting, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, you just living day by day here in the moment.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to to be honest, like you only
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  Speaker 4: have one life. You need to make sure that you're happy.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 4: If not, it's just going to be miserable and famous.
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  Speaker 2: It's successful. There's a lot of miserable and famous people
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  Speaker 2: out here. Have you met a few of them since you,
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  Speaker 2: you know, popped off.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm you never know, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: You never know.
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  Speaker 4: It's only when something happens publicly that you now realize,
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  Speaker 4: don't know this person was going through this, but you
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  Speaker 4: don't know, like most a lot of people are going
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  Speaker 4: through so many things you have no clue until it
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  Speaker 4: comes out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, how do you avoid being miserable and famous times?
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  Speaker 2: Like you? Personally?
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  Speaker 4: How I avoid that? I curate my environment.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I curated like a playlist people that come around me.
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  Speaker 4: I have a certain energy that like, I know it's
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  Speaker 4: true that I like and so having the right people
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  Speaker 4: around me that are not afraid to tell me off
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  Speaker 4: or you know, be upset with me or tell me no,
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  Speaker 4: you know, or argue with me. I'm you know, And
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  Speaker 4: I always just try and like find little experience is
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  Speaker 4: everywhere I go.
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  Speaker 1: My mom's on tour with me too.
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  Speaker 4: I just try to make the most beautiful seeing every
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  Speaker 4: single time, like every single time.
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  Speaker 2: Do you like being famous?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Well, because you know, you could just prefer making music
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  Speaker 3: but not necessarily love the same part of it.
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  Speaker 4: There's pros and cons for sure. I'm not I'm not
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  Speaker 4: someone that I didn't. I didn't take it very well
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  Speaker 4: when I first when I first started getting known, I
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  Speaker 4: did not have a great reaction.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I was, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, wasn't what wasn't a great part about its blogs?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I started, you know, slowly, you know, from I
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  Speaker 4: used to record in my room, and then slowly I
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  Speaker 4: started noticing people are talking about me all the time.
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  Speaker 4: I like, but these people don't even know me, you know,
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  Speaker 4: that's the first reaction. You're like, but you do if
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  Speaker 4: you know me, And you feel like, ah, but how
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  Speaker 4: can you? And then you go out, so you go
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  Speaker 4: to the store like a normal person looking homeless, homeless?
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  Speaker 6: What's been like the wildest thing that you heard about yourself?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, probably the pregnant thing.
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  Speaker 2: How did that?
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  Speaker 6: Where did that come from?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Future got you pregnant through the phone because you didn't
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  Speaker 3: you didn't even meet him at the time, Right.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you want to get a home with a
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  Speaker 2: person pregnant?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no clue. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I was just busy minded by business, being hopeless. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's just also crazy. And I think it's people seeing
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  Speaker 4: me in real life that spooked me a bit, like.
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  Speaker 2: Or being recognized, you mean.
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  Speaker 4: Being recognized outside like in the airport or in the
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  Speaker 4: grocery store, like is it you? I'm like, no, I
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  Speaker 4: so in the beginning, I didn't know what I.
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  Speaker 8: Used to deny. I used to deny. But now obviously
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  Speaker 8: you know, oh yeah, you try to look homeless on purpose.
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  Speaker 1: That was my vibe.
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  Speaker 4: I used to wear baggy clothes all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I still do.
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  Speaker 4: It's just now it's expensive homeless, you know. But it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know when I'm chilling.
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  Speaker 5: So you have a home? Though, To be clear, I
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  Speaker 5: don't want a home. I don't want the headline to be.
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  Speaker 6: Start playing with you, little one.
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  Speaker 1: No, I do have a home. I have.
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  Speaker 3: You're doing very well because he's playing with you.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have to clear up the rooms with family members?
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  Speaker 2: And your family members called you be like I heard this.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, come on now, mom.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like people just take the most controversial thing
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  Speaker 4: you can think of, because I was thinking, like why
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  Speaker 4: am I pregnant?
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  Speaker 1: Why? Like why?
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  Speaker 4: Future?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like why why here?
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  Speaker 4: Because that's the that's the craziest Why not you know,
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  Speaker 4: why not Drake?
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  Speaker 1: You know, why not somebody else?
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  Speaker 2: So you wouldn't mind it if the rumor was the Drake.
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  Speaker 1: No, it would be the same thing.
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  Speaker 6: But it's just like it's like the extreme.
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  Speaker 4: It's like I'm saying, the reason why its future is
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  Speaker 4: because he's his reputation. It's like the most crazy, but.
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  Speaker 2: It's because the future reputation Future got you got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of kids, and then you've got a reputation of
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  Speaker 2: being with a lot of different women.
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  Speaker 6: You know, Drake be marrying all his women? Well he
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  Speaker 6: did in the video.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, calls you.
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  Speaker 2: Actually got Why are you pregnant from future? Who is future?
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  Speaker 7: You don't what accident is that Tim's asked him to
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  Speaker 7: leave you alone?
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  Speaker 4: Is the wakand people he came from.
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  Speaker 1: So I understand, it's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Do you get that a lot? Like people all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden have an African accent when they talk to you.
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  Speaker 4: Oh so many times I feel like my accent, especially
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  Speaker 4: because I'm not really I can impersonate accents, but when
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking, I'm usually talking Nigerian, So I feel like
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  Speaker 4: it inspires people to.
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  Speaker 1: Be like, oh, what are you doing? What's good? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let me try so I understand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me have some accents.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, I continue because I don't even know. I
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  Speaker 4: have like American accents.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, you probably got good London London.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know if I can do it
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  Speaker 4: in command. But if I, if I, you know, continue,
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  Speaker 4: I could.
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  Speaker 2: Probably Huh you said you'll get some accenting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So back to your family members calling you. Who called
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  Speaker 2: them was like is this true? Is your mind?
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't even calling. They would just send me prayers
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  Speaker 4: like you will not be pregnant for no, no type
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  Speaker 4: of future.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus, the reverse of the seer.
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  Speaker 6: Russell Wilson is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: That's the reverse prayer. Jesus name is crazy for all.
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  Speaker 5: Did they want you to put a be a musician
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  Speaker 5: or did they want you to be a doctor.
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  Speaker 4: My family, my mom, she is very supportive, my family.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like they wanted me to be like a doctor,
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  Speaker 4: but they just didn't expect me to be a musician,
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  Speaker 4: like a singer. Like when I said, oh yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 4: creating my job. I'm going to sing now.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody was like, she's on drugs, she's.
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  Speaker 4: Smoking, she's sniffing cookie like for real, like on a
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  Speaker 4: serious thing. So it was just like this girl is
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: on serious. She just just lazy. She just like she's
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: now saying she sings. Really, when have you ever sung
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  Speaker 4: in your life?
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  Speaker 6: Never I heard you sing before.
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  Speaker 4: Not a lot of people knew that I really sang
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  Speaker 4: like that.
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  Speaker 2: I owe you. Like when you really started to take
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  Speaker 2: us here.
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  Speaker 4: When I knew I had something was when I was
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  Speaker 4: like in UNI, when I was like eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: And then after Uni, I started like going to.
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  Speaker 4: Trying out different people looking for people to labels, and
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  Speaker 4: that's when I knew, actually I did their job.
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  Speaker 8: And then he was an economics major, right, yeah, which
• 15:34
  Speaker 8: I've never I do even know where my degree is.
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  Speaker 7: To be honest, like me either, girl, I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I haven't seen it since I graduated.
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  Speaker 4: You know, school might be a scam after all, but
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to say that it's not a scam
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: because we need we need the workforce.
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  Speaker 2: It's Sam's cannot call anybody scammers.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Wow Wow.
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  Speaker 6: What I neverly did was I said things next to me,
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  Speaker 6: so if I have to throw some maybe I should go.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for me to do you want to throw?
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  Speaker 7: You throw any of this at him at any time.
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  Speaker 7: Understand it's okay, it's okay, don't worry. But how Jake, Okay, Now.
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm ready.
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  Speaker 5: How do you fertilize a dream if you if nobody
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  Speaker 5: even knows that's your dream, like this is important? Like
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  Speaker 5: you was eighteen, that's when you decided you want to
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  Speaker 5: pursue it as a singer. But you didn't tell nobody
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  Speaker 5: in your family.
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  Speaker 4: It's not that type of you know, Nagera is No,
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  Speaker 4: it's not common. It wasn't now ITAs, but back then,
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't common for you to be a musician, Like
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  Speaker 4: that's not a professional anybody is proud of in Nigeria before.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I did try to sing in front
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  Speaker 4: of my family at some point. Obviously my cousins, they
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  Speaker 4: love me, my age mates, but like my auntie, those guys,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's not something that in their mind is
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  Speaker 4: like a serious thing, you know. So I just didn't
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  Speaker 4: feel the need to talk about it, especially when I
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm gonna get.
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  Speaker 5: And that's was so impressive about it, because you know,
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  Speaker 5: usually you need those adults in your life to give
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  Speaker 5: you some encouragement. So they were discouraging you, but you
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  Speaker 5: decided still, God put it on your heart to say, no,
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  Speaker 5: this is what you should be doing the way.
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  Speaker 4: I love music, the way I loved writing and making music,
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  Speaker 4: producing like it was more than a hobby, Like it's
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  Speaker 4: just something that I just genuinely enjoyed. I didn't expect
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  Speaker 4: ever to make anything from it. I was just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I could do this all day. You know if I
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: can't get a job to sustain me, and I'll just
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  Speaker 4: be doing this all day. Like literally, that was my mindset.
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  Speaker 1: So I just didn't.
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  Speaker 4: I was okay with I'm used to in my whole life.
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  Speaker 4: I was used to people not really caring, and I
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  Speaker 4: was I'm still loky with it.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Their first break at first, like oh I can do this,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to do this.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: So I decided to release my first song, and I
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: really I started like getting That's how I met my manager,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: my two managers, actually I met them Walle and I
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: met them after I dropped my first song, and you know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: radio started taking I was independent. It's still it's on
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: that Timula day when it's like I started realizing, oh,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: you know, God is making away somehow. So I was like, yeah,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: I'm willing to go down this road no matter you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: the trials. I'm down.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I'm here.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Do you have to invest in yourself to because you said,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: you're recording in your Yeah, you was buying studio equipment.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Oh no, you know that Free Mind, Your original Free
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Mind was recorded on my laptop. Mike, Like, this is
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: the laptop I sung. I saw, I sung it in
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: my laptop.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: That's why they thought you was on drugs.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I understand. Actually I'm not even like I get it.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not even judging them.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: Is that why you're able to do so much? Because
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: you engineered too?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you were engineering yourself or now, But is that
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: why you're so like hands on where it's like if
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: you can't figure out a sound or someone else can't,
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: you'll just figure it out yourself because you started that way.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's not a good thing. It's not
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: a good thing. I always want to do everything myself.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it is good though you don't know how
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to do everything.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: You know how you like your sound?
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Trust me because this album I engineered myself. I recorded myself,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: and I engineered myself. Born in the but in the world,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I cumped all my vocals.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Better go girl.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: I started getting help towards the end, like after like
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: I was literally about to die. Only line I now
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: was like, okay, I actually need help, Like.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I bet, I bet you went back and you, you know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: checked everything that person recorded.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: It burnt out.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I was burnt the hell out.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I was. I was, so, how'd you do the first project?
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: It was less songs?
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, got you got you, got you got you got
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: you less songs.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: I wasn't doing as much. I wasn't as big as
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: I am now.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: No brouh that was.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: That was.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: It's not good to do things by yourself. There's a
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: time where you now have to get help.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Let go.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have my feeling.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, do you feel like you have
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: to one of the people that have to carry the torch?
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Because at one time afro Beats was so big, right,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: John was so big, I mean it was. It feels
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: like it's slowed down a little bit, really, I think
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I think so. To me, I feel like it's bigger
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: than ever. No, I think it's slowed down, especially in
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: the States. I feel like it's slowed down. Do you
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: feel like you have to carry that torch and make
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: sure it continues on because I feel like it has
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: been a little bit of a slow down.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe you don't feel that way, do you believe it's
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: a slow down a couple of years ago. I don't
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: see that Shake just sold out a week ago. It
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: just sold out last night.
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: I think it's more of a certainly like like I
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: think it's just the shock value of it here isn't
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: as much anymore.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: It's like for me, it's like, how hispanic, I'm not Hispanic?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Yes he is. Yes, I'm black. I'm not.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't. Look at you. I think of
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: what you I'm black, Okay, you're a black fan. Anything
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: you want to be.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Nobody want to be black now, everybody want to be
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Africa for.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: You know, it's school. What was I saying?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Like Hispanic music?
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was like a boom, and I feel like
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: it's still big, but it's settled in what it is.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: They bring us some tissue, making us look that's from Nigeria.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Wants some tissue Nigerian beef for no reason. Jesus, are
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: you about to give these hard as tissues?
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: When it comes to the afrobeats in the reggae conversation,
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: I know there's been like a back and forth about
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: that from just different conversations about like you talked about
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: escapism when it comes to that. Can you explain a
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: bit about like when you said that, you know it
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: is escapism, Like that's the purpose of afrobeats?
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: What does that mean?
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Before I answer you a question, I want to just
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: say that this is the reason why sometimes I just
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: don't answer questions in interviews because they take it they
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: carries over because now.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what I said in that interview.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I don't want to quote for you. No, no, no,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: all right, just repeat the question.
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: So what is escapism when it comes to afrobeats? Like
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: what does that mean?
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: So what aphrobets right now, right is it's each artist
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: expresses their arts in their own way. They talk about
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: their life.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: See we got this time.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, people, this is discussed. I'm so sorry. It's okay,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Perfect anything is.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, go and blow it. Don't save it.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I can't blow it too.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: Don't save it, don't save blowing outs, coughed up with logs,
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: picked that ship in the napkin that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Like I'm never coming back.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: This is like.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: You're talking about the escapeism of aphrobets.
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: Right, honestly, just want to been through a lot these
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: last ten minutes.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Oh thank you.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like aphrobats, every artist talks about their
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: life and what means the most to them. So it
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: can be introspective, it can be just about how you know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: what's going on in the country. It can be about
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: you know, how they're living their life. It just depends
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: on the artists. But the structure of afrobeats is for dancing.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: It's supposed to be danceable music.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: It's supposed to be groovy, danceable music.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, and you know, especially when Nigerians, I love that
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: music because it's just like a forget about your forget
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: about everything that you're worried about and just enjoy life.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: That's what aphrobets.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: People need experience that, you know.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: And yeah, if you're going and trying to sing oh
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: the government is, you know, if you don't.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Sing it in a groovy way, nothing for you.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: And even if you do, like Nigerians don't want to
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: be reminded of their own hardship, you know, so they
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: want things that are elevating, like I'm going to make
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: it like I'm going to be great, I'm going to
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: do great things because I am great. I'm I'm going
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: to enjoy my life because this is life, you know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: things like that.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: That's the one thing I would say, like anytime I
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: travel to whether DJ and I Jeri or South Africa.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: JI or Annersburg, wherever it may be.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: That's one thing I can say about the music is,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: no matter how bad somebody's day is, in the club night.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: It just feels good.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Everybody's dancing, they're drinking, and it's a good time. That's
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: what made me even start loving African music way back.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Afrobeats way back is because it's just a feel. And
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: when it came here, that feeling hit so hard.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: It was just like, this is good. Charlamagne thought it
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: one time it was gonna replace hip hop, but it
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: just felt so good. I just I still think it
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: might in the long run.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: Maybe I was just such a huge, huge, huge culture,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: of course, but I'm just talking about musically globally.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Around the world.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of people are embracing the
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: afrobeats because it does feel very good. And some of
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: the stuff, some of the stuff that's coming from here
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: is so low vibrational that you know, I can turn
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: afrobeats on and everything's not Aprobach is other names for
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: it too. I can just turn it on at the
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: house while my four daughters is running around and not
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: think nothing of it and.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Not know the artists. But it just feels good through
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: that whole time. Absolutely.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I always just say, like music, different genres are
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: for different purposes. You know, you listen to aphrobeats, but
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you still listen to R and B of course.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm sure you're not going to like be like,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: oh yeah, R and B is dead.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: No.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: You know, there's different moods, different times. There's a time
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: that you might feel like you want to play reggae,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: you know, and feel that vibe. It's just for different
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: it's for different purposes.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: Did you see Boujou Bontan on Drink Champs and he
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: criticized the afrobeat He said as shallow and unsubstantial music
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: that lacks content aim at liberating Africa.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's exactly what I just said. Like, reggae
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: is not aphrobats. Aphrobeats is not R and B.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: It's not rock. You know, reggae is for a certain purpose.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: You know, aphrobats thinking about the origin, which is Nigeria,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: It's for a certain purpose. It's for the Nigerian people
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: now if you like aphrobeats from the outside, do you understand?
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: You you.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Like, you can join us in the enjoyment of it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: But aphrobeasts was tailored for Nigerian people originally. Do you
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: understand it? Uplifts the Nigerian people. Do you understand? So
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't look for something. If I'm looking for something
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: in reggae, I cannot expect to find the same thing
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: in afro beasts because it's not tailored for the same people.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: So aphrobeats originated in Nigeria. Yes, I didn't know that.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: You didn't know that.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: DJ When I would go to South Africa, you say
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: the music South Africans. I'm a piano aphrobasis and South
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Africa has other genres. Well, aphobasi is not South African.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: You know you' got all the biggest artists too.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, alphabasis Nigerian. That's a standard.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: You know, how was it doing? Get it right with
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: a I love ask by the way, shot pronouncing it right?
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: That's that's a wine like a little Asian saki.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: How you pronounce it shock?
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: He has a shock?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, like.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Like air.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: As shock here. But don't don't pronounce the r like that.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: So like a shock care, but we removed the R.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: So sho, there's no R in his name though.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: No, I'm telling you how to.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I'm giving you this step by step process to get into.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, shut, okay, okay, let's fast shock not k okay kre.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Like without the R.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Now I remove there. Now you're almost there?
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Almost? Yeah, exactly, boom.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Shot got you great? No, it's great.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's really good.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: I wasn't because we were so fun. I wanted him
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: up here. But he's heard he doesn't like to do interviews.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, I want me. I support him.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not sing you, guys, but I understand me.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not I get.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I'm just interviewing you.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna call me and be like, oh wow with him, I'm.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: With him way but you know, no, he's dope. You're
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: not having a good time.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I'm having a great time.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: But I also mem I'm I'm in person that can
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: see from multiple perspectives.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: So I'm about to pronounce this name wrong. Who is
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: am I saying it right? Love me?
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: My god, that has a meaning.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Stop it's not a person I'm asking.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, tell him go ahead. Wow, g.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Damn Jesus no jed Ja good times.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Love me so means small small, small, small.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: So it means gently love me, love me okay, okay,
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: okay small love me small small like love me j J.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Take you easy, take your time with me, like you know,
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: don't be don't be roughing me up, love me gently.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Fire, Yeah, fire, good times. You'll know that.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: I didn't know that it was.
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: I saw the ques that on the thing, and I
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: just knew he was gonna ask it, so I just
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: let you. But I knew it wasn't a person. I
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: know you're in You're interapt like you're different like t
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: U and it on here is inspired by fifty Who
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: are some of the other artists, like rap artists that
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: inspire you and your sound?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Li Wayne Eazy.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Definitely, Lil Wayne Ken, Drake Drake.
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: Absolute, absolute, fire absolute, and on three thousand.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: It's a great list.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah can you Litman is the most though.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: You've always been a big little wave fan. Oh yeah,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: did you want to rap that first?
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I was introduced to rap so early by my brother,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: so it was little when I heard first. I heard
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Make It Rain the remix, and it was his verse.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: That stood out to me a lot. I met get
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: In on the hose, Yeah, got in trouble.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I know your parents heard that.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: My mom she didn't really, she didn't know what she
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: was just like, oh, they're just doing there their children things.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: She did not know what was good at.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: But yeah, after that, all of Littleman's albums, I I
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: listened to it religiously.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Ja, Jacole, can I forget three four? Jacole?
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: I started listening to jac Hole much later in my
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: in my years, when you were in Uni college, when
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: you started listening to me too.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: The fifty comes to the show the other night.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: No, he didn't wish she did though. Actually I wouldn't
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: even know if he did. To be very honest, but
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I am soon. I'm gonna I'm gonna meet him soon.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, Ma, we're just keeping you
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: here to bother you at this point.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: You're really funny.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Funny.
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: Yes, you are a dry sarcasm but it's great.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Oh sorry, it is a bit dry. I'm usually better,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm actually usually better.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: But we know exactly.
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: And when you sit next to him over there, it's
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: just it works.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I have a good time.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Mm.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: As I'm sitting here and I already collect collected shots.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Let him go, let me hear.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Let the shots you give you shot me already. No,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I did not you did. You said that?
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: You said that Nadians can I don't even want to repeat.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Don't he spoked to you? And I like, where did
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: the accent comes?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Okay? But and that too, he also did the work accent. No,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: A lot of my people. Oh yeah, sorry, you know what,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: It's okay. I'm used to this. It's fine.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I am a TIMS fan. That, yes, okay, sing something
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Fortunately I like.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Unfortunately, I like, uh for your mind, which you are
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: talking about earlier, like a lot of records.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I was to the one in the world yesterday.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, absolutely, Let's let's play a joint off the
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: album so we can get out of here, so she
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: can get some you want to you want to get
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: it right?
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we could do that free fall. Betwe can
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: get to write some free Oh.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I don't be liking to hear American
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: rap on afrobeat.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: I don't how you're saying you don't like nothing. I'm
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: not saying it's not it's not whack. It's just like,
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: I don't know. It's just I haven't heard it mesh
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: right way yet.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I feel you, Okay, I mean, am I tripping when
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I say that?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: No, it's just your your press friends. You know, it's
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: just what you like.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: There's a there's an artist name of Ruben Vincent from
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: North Carolina. He I think he's he's been finding his groove,
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: doing it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Doing it the best.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough, Ruben Vincent. Want to check him out looking.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Like he's I think Ruben is Nigerian.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Really we played him last week.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: He's not. He's He's from somewhere on the continent. Okay, yeah,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: but nice in North Carolina.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, Tim, it's the time for you to go blow
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: your nose.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I know you.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I get Itand do you have a whole day after this?
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: You go home and I'm traveling to Toronto tomorrow. Really
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: that's today as I'm leaving here.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I said to her, I have
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: a show in too rountil tomorrow.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: At least you could wrap your hair.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: You know what I do want to ask you about.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: I saw a long time ago, it wasn't that long ago,
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: but you said that you wear baggy clothes in the studio.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Oh so that produces aren't distracted by your by your body?
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: I used to Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I didn't
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: know it was a thing. But you know, it's only
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: when you do something in ignorance that you find out.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: So obviously I was my normal self, and I realized
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: people's reactions to me, you know, especially when I was
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: I was like seventeen eighteen, when I was like going
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: around studios, so I started noticing like, oh, every time
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: I come here, people don't.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Take me seriously. Okay, oh what is it? Why is
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: this a thing?
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Like why you've seen many women before? Why is this
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: such a huge deal? Just another moment? And then I
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: just realized, Okay, if there's nothing, if they can't see anything,
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: then they have nothing to talk about or think about.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: They can only focus on your talent.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know that.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Also doesn't work as well these days. But then it did,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: to be honest, it did, really did.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: We had a conversation about it here on the air, really, yeah,
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: because I was just saying that it's sad that you
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: have to do that, because that shouldn't beyond you.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: It should be on the men. The control they got them.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like who's gonna who's gonna tell them, you know,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: and I can't. I can't could have at that time
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: because I was going to studios alone, you know, I'll
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: just like take a cab and go meet like somebody
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: in the studio in hopes of, you know, getting help.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: I can't naively say well, you should control yourself, you know.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: That's a bit mm hmm. You know, yes you should.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: But in the meantime, I don't have time to teach
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: you what to do.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Right now. There's just bypassle that I need. I need
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: to get what I need to get.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: See. That's fucked up, though, But it's.
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: The reality of being a woman, one of them things.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: How do you feel now when people like when you
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: do dress like because you dressed and bag your clothes today,
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: but like when you dress up and it's tighter or whatever,
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: people react to your shape and stuff like that doesn't bother.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: You, no at all, not at all. I don't mean
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: I don't even notice it too unless they're telling me directly,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: like oh you're beautiful, old, you look good. I'm not
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: even I don't notice it, Like I just think people
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: are happy to see me if they're happy to see
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: me because of my body.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't care. I'm just like, okay,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: you don't own girl.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm one girl.
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: I have an older brother, Okay, so you probably came
• 39:39
  Speaker 8: up with him, so you Yeah, you're like a guy
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: in a lot of ways.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: No.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: I had a lot of female cousins, like at least
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: twenty so we're very close in my family. So they
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: were they're like my sisters, and it taught me everything
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: I know. But once I turned eight my brother was
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: like eleven ten, my brother stopped allowing me to hang
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: out with him.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Is I got to find your old friends? Please? Effect?
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: So I didn't really grow up like doing boy things.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, m hmm, Well, we appreciate you for joining us.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: We do appreciate you.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Yes, I will if he doesn't have any more shots,
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: or maybe I'll go. I'll go and get my own shots.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: I'll come back with you know, I gotta let your accents.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: You'd be surprised.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I can't even pronounce nothing I told you how to do.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Come in here and pronounce it.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Have you been to Nigeria?
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: No, but I love Nigeria.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: You see how many Nigerians have you interviewed a lot
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: and I did not.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I got great Nageria.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: It did not inspire you to go to Nigeria. Ghana.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: I've been to Ghana. I've been to Ghana. I've been
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: to Zanzibar in the year, been to Johannesburg. I've been
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: supposed to go to nwe year. My girl copy you know,
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: copy copy, Yes, yes, Koby want me. You may want
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: me to come to Nigeria for a while, and you didn't.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: I go to I try to go to someplace on
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: the Really, you don't really no, I know that you
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: don't really like that. I don want to go someplace
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: on the continent. I try to go one place on
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: the continent every year.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: Okay, so you come, you go to Nigeria to Legos. Yeah,
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: I would love to, and I hope that you do
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: because I think it would like broaden your perspective, your
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: mind like boom, like literally, I'm not even joking, Like
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: I feel like you'd have a lot more context to
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: not just Nigerians, but to Afro Beads, to the whole culture,
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: to just the impact of the world on us and
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: us on them. I think that would be more like
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: you know, and toil you guys as well. I think
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: you guys should all. I'm here to promote my country.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I go every year DJ there before I had year
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: when I went to Ghana.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I went to Ghana.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I went to Ghana for all.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: You had that grand food, yes, which was your favorite?
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Niger in Ghana? I had a lot more food than Ghana.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no no, because I was
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: in Ghana for like ten days, so I experienced a
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: lot more than food.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I had Nigeria food because couppies Mom cooked here.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: And what did you hate?
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I had gel rice of course and no, yeah, hey
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: goose and what what did you say?
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: What you said? Y'all was doing so well?
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: Right, y'all was doing so well?
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Egosy soup.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know, no, no, I think it was like
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: some I forgot what we had, but it was great though. No.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Today, I'm telling you you're gonna go to Legos. I
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: don't know what, but I know that you're gonna go,
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: and you're gonna have Nigerian food and you're going to
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: see everything that I'm talking about. Even me, I would
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: make more sense to you, like you don't understand me?
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: Better if you if you went.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: To late I understand you.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Do you understand that? Yes? I sure, yes? Okay, what
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: do you mean we understand?
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Way? I'm right here with you.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Go to Nigeria and bring all cash, no credit card.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, it's Tim, good morning. Wake that ass
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: up in the morning Breakfast club.