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92. Intern for a day 2024 plus Legions Con Floor chat · The Euro Legions Podcast

• 0:16
  Welcome to the bedroom sessions. Hey, this is corn boy from 4
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  Horsemen toy design and you're listening to the Euro Legions
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  podcast. So it's 7th of November.
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  It's the evening after intern. We've just been interns for a
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  day, guys. Has that been?
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  It's all right. Yeah, it was tough.
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  On the legs, standing up, eating all that pizza and the cookies
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  and the cookies and the. Breakfast.
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  It was it. Was a mythic legion limbo
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  competition that really did for him.
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  He was doing fines a lot and then it's just like how low can
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  he go? Not really low.
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  And Rich, you're you. You were fine until you had to
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  carry that box of figures. So.
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  As I said, it was half what the number was last year, I mean.
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  Last year was very high it. Was very high, yeah, extremely
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  high. So no, it's it's much less this
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  year. It was the biggest box they
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  handed out I think in the entire intern.
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  But yeah, it was still I. Think it was still the biggest
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  box. I think the the Scaramucci guy
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  at the end scary had a big. Tony.
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  Manucci yeah, I don't know. Where they got?
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  Maybe he had driven home and forgot neat orders, thought he
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  was collecting at the hotel or something.
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  Connie ordered 28 figures. So so anyway.
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  Some kind of wise guy. Talking like everyone should
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  know what was going on here, but basically at Leach it's gone.
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  You, you are at intern you, you got a little QR code on the wall
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  and they gave you access to like a private page on the store
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  horseman that you could go in and order figures that you can
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  collect at the end of the day. And I think last year Richie
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  said that was more like a just a printed off sheet and you take
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  it. Was just a cheat with a text.
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  Yeah, so. This was better because then you
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  could pay on the line. The only complication for us was
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  putting in your address. Yeah, it'll be America.
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  The little behind the scenes to have Diego knocked latter and I
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  think it was a cracking way to do things, wasn't it?
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  So yeah. And now you actually, we just
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  went in and got Diego to the. Order.
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  I got a personal service from ordering service.
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  Just service from Diego, that's from Diego that wasn't on the
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  list of Internet sessions was. It paid extra for that.
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  Did you? Yeah.
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  So what you saved on shipping, you lost on there on that.
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  That's why he's aching now, isn't it?
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  Too much? Too much earlier.
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  Oh, man, So yeah, that was that was nice.
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  So we got to I think that takes a little bit of the case.
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  Stress is the wrong word here because it's not stressful to
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  have to buy things that, you know, are additional stuff to,
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  you know, feeding yourself and living.
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  So but allegiance can weekend, especially when you have a table
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  at the show and you maybe want to get a couple of figures off
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  the horsemen. And I know there's a slot after
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  the show on Saturday for us, but I think this is still better.
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  It's out of the way. It's done.
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  Absolutely, yeah. I mean the the slot after the
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  show, the queue was huge. Last time.
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  It's like an hour to get through the queue and whereas last year
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  intern then you'd buy one of each figure, this year that
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  limit was lifted. So I was able to get everything
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  I want. So I don't have to worry about
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  that now. Should I finish this Saturday?
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  I'm in the bar. And to give you an idea, I mean,
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  I this was, I think I maybe mentioned it on the show at some
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  stage around the time of the mystery boxes, but I basically
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  said I'm going to pick up at Leeds and scan what I would hope
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  to get to mystery boxes. And if they weren't there, big
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  deal, you know. But yeah, that's what I ended up
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  getting. So I got AK door.
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  We don't need to go through your order now, Richard.
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  I'm just giving the people an example of we should.
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  He gives us a good half an hour of.
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  Content. We're going for quality over
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  quantity here if we can I. Have to do that some time.
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  This is our first recording of the weekend.
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  You could be padding out later and you know, and, but you know,
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  if you want to you, we record a lot this weekend.
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  You know you can have a couple of weeks off podcasting, you
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  know, you know the next, the next recording we do could be
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  the figures of the year. Yeah.
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  And we got to stretch that to our 100th.
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  We're not going to be doing any of that.
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  Whatever it lands that lands if the 100 episode is literally
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  whatever it is, you know a new cosmic legions waivers and
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  that's what it is I. Don't think we gain that.
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  It'll be figure. Yeah, and so I got a kid.
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  Cador, Brother Mandibulus, Faunus, Sir Galifrey, Zaria,
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  Gunks and snags. So they were the ones I would
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  have picked out of the mystery boxes.
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  Was tempted by the shadow of In the Shadow of Ranger, but I've
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  had them and. Yeah, no, I I have them, so I
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  won't go through my whole order, but I did the same.
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  So I got a Zaria Faunus brother Mandibulous, and I've forgotten
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  his name. Snag.
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  It's Snag. Snag Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  yeah. I just picked up those four,
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  which is the ones I'd wanted to. Yeah, Zaria and Snag.
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  I've got a Snag already, but the paint app on his nose is a bit
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  squiffy, so Snag is a great for Yeah, yeah, I sit repaint the
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  second one and he'll still be really cool.
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  So yeah. I think if I'm if I'm I was told
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  my kid I'm going to get him a figure.
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  He wants a plunder links plunder strong.
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  But I might throw in one of these maybe, and maybe Snag
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  might be the one because, because The thing is then he'll
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  he'll play with it and look after it.
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  But I've ever need the snag Yeah, for something.
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  I'll be able to bargain with them, you know.
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  Here, have this cosmic Legion spexion instead or.
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  Hear me out. Just steal it back off.
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  I could do that when he was 4. You know, he did get the odd
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  Legion builder to play with. And then when I was doing the
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  costume and I was like, I don't have any goblin in arms there.
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  You. Go, I look over there.
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  Look, there's your sister's Barbie.
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  Where's the goblin gone? Oh, I don't know.
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  He. Jumped out the window.
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  So it's like when I when I rediscovered my vintage Star
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  Wars about two or three years ago.
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  Three or four years ago? Probably no.
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  I got them out and my daughter who was eight at the time, was
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  like, oh amazing. And she's playing with the Uox
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  obviously because of the bears and bashing them together.
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  And then I just ebayed how much one was worth and said so I was
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  like get them off for get them off for now, get them off for
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  now. And I sold like up on £450 and
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  that since it's. Totally moanly.
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  Oh man, yeah, I suppose. Yeah, that that's kind of what
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  you have to do. But yeah, we should get a little
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  bit back on topics. So and Matt, yeah, you, you got
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  a lot of cosmics as well. Rich, I did.
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  I got some surprising. Yeah, I was.
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  Well, I was talking to some more cosmic builders, really.
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  So I got 4 sentries, science officer, a couple of pilots.
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  So I've got lots of cosmic heads.
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  It's a lot. Of crushing cardboard.
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  Yes. Oh, yeah, I'll drive you to
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  absolutely insane. Yeah.
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  You'll have sore fingers after popping all the bits out of the
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  bus. Well, I already, I already cut
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  the hand out and putting my armour experience figure
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  together. So it's not started brilliantly
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  on that front, yeah. Yeah, so the way, the, the way
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  the day went. So we, Chris James and his wife
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  Kat, they brought, they'd give us a leftover.
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  So that was very kind of awesome.
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  Yeah. And as well, that's why we're
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  back in one piece. Managed to squeeze your box into
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  the boot on the way home. Rich's boast about this huge box
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  all day? Oh yeah, really?
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  It was so much bigger. But I mean, yeah.
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  So much bigger. We were slagging Joe to a pretty
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  small little package and Rich. Rich really did out to them
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  then. I'll have to unbutton my shirt
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  down 4 buttons later so I do more maths.
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  Make sure your nipples are taken out.
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  But you're quite tall, so I mean, to get 4 buttons for you
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  is like 2 for Joe. So you need to go 8 buttons, get
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  down to where he is. You know, he already promised
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  me. He said, you know, I'm, you
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  know, it's, it's, it's only going down from here.
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  I didn't know what he was talking about.
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  I just nodded and smiled. He's better looking than me.
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  You know, I have to kind of concede defeat here.
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  Actually, when I saw Noah and Wyatt walking in there, I was
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  already in ready with their shades and there's such cool
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  looking dudes. I was like, I was like, wow, at
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  least we sound good. You know, I mean, and that they
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  sound good too, but you know, at least that's what we can offer.
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  Yeah. You know you're not going to get
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  sexy walking. Across yeah why walking down
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  motor tour this morning looking looking like a rock star, yeah.
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  I didn't even look that good when I was 20 and I had long
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  hair. Yeah.
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  So the the way it was set up so we got there with Chris, we had
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  a lot of the weather here is amazing.
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  We go we've looked out again for another year with the weather
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  beautiful in in European. It's like kind of early 20s
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  degrees was that 50s to 60s in in American and not a cloud in
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  the sky. Actually a bit warm inside for a
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  bit of today. I was, I got a bit of a dry
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  cough, I think just from the air con, but and the the the least
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  of my problems. No problem really.
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  And yeah. So that we got to hang out for a
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  while and Jeremy came out and gave us his wonderful
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  introduction, kind of hyped us up a little bit and told us the
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  best news of the morning so far, which was that this breakfast
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  down the corridor and Rich. And those breakfast muffins.
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  Yeah, I was so happy. My little face was like a kid at
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  Christmas. So the toys, the toys didn't
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  come out of the brown. And I'm going to interrupt
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  intern actually, because I realize now that we we should,
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  we should rewind back a day and talk about your your flight
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  here. Oh.
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  Jesus. So what's up?
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  And Mal got here. We shared a taxi with Rick
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  Emerick, nephew. And at kind of 2:00 Wednesday
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  afternoon from New York, Rich was coming in about 8:15.
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  And the wonderful Brett Stoddart was gone out to New York to
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  collect him and David Williams. And what happened from there,
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  Rich? Well, it's it.
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  It was all well and good and and running perfectly until about 45
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  minutes for it due to take off when suddenly they announced the
• 9:54
  flight was delayed by an hour, apparently because they couldn't
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  get a lot of people needed help getting on board.
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  It's like that's random, but OK. It turns out that was a lie.
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  In fact, they delayed it by an hour because the previous
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  flight, United flight that had gone out, turned round because
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  of some sort of problem on the plane, came back and then they
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  filled our plane with people from that flight.
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  So it's completely full. But we took off an hour late.
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  But that's fine, we took off. I had a lovely lovely journey,
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  tried to watch Ori and Deadpool and the sound was out of sync
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  with the the screen with the the action.
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  Oh no, I've noticed. Was that with the dodgy
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  headphones you got there or was it it's?
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  I've noticed it's on nearly every film that's been modified
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  for United Airlines, so I think they screwed up the syncing of
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  the sound and they've. Yeah, I just.
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  I watched it and I didn't notice but I did.
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  I used my own headphones. Are you my own headphones?
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  Yeah, just out of sync. Well, I had the.
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  Problem with Twister, and I've had the problem previously with
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  the Transformers risers of the Beasts last year.
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  So yeah, yes, I came up on that. I watched all.
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  Three films. That's fine.
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  Yeah. So we got to Newark.
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  Everything was going fine. The captain.
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  The captain was a it was a hoot. He was very honest.
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  He was like, so just let everybody know after an hour and
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  45 minutes, the flight, we're going to hit a load of
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  turbulence. We can't go around it.
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  So, you know, we'll just get on with it, shall we?
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  Everyone's like, oh, OK, cool. But, you know, we missed that.
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  And we got to Newark and then there was some sort of
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  signalling issue at Newark. So all the planes were in like a
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  circling flight path around Newark.
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  The man on the ground with the flag?
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  Yeah, he was out. Of basically he was, he was
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  pissed. He was like unconscious.
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  Yeah, he was here in the bar with us.
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  Yeah. So we were circling and we were
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  circling and then all of a sudden the pilot comes on and
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  goes. Ladies and gentlemen, they fixed
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  the issue down at Newark. But there's an awful lot of
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  planes circling and we're not 1st and we have 10 minutes of
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  reserve fuel and then we're out of reserve fuel and we'll have
• 11:51
  to divert. If that's the case, then.
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  Yeah, we'll have to divert. If that's the case, soon,
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  there's the second reserve after the reserves.
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  I'm presuming they've got some normal fields as well.
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  So 10 minutes passed and he's like, yeah, no, they're not
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  letting us land. We're going to go to Stuart
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  International Air Field, which is upstate New York, about a 15
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  minute flight from Newark. But it's quite obscure because
• 12:12
  only the Americans here knew where the hell Stuart was.
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  So we landed there and we landed.
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  And the pilot was like, don't worry, everybody 15 minutes Max.
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  You know, they're coming straight out.
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  As soon as we land, they're straight out with the fuel truck
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  and we're taking off again. An hour later, we took off from.
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  Stuart They're a bit French Open, Stuart and.
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  Everybody was chilled, but they wouldn't let us off the plane
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  because we stopped on the runway and they went, yeah, they're
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  it's a terminal, but we're just going to wait here.
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  So everyone's like, great, OK, So you know, we took off 15
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  minute flights in Newark. It was ridiculous.
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  We're flying so low. There's like there's no point
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  going up all the way. We'll just fly low and quite
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  slow. The slowest plane flight I've
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  ever had. So we get to Newark.
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  Brilliant touchdown. It's like great, we're here.
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  We're like 3 hours late but at least we're here.
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  This is amazing. Plane comes to stop.
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  Taxis off the runway heading towards the terminal.
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  Hits a gate that had fallen off a truck.
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  It's like a temporary gate that they'd been using to demarcate
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  something had fallen off the back of one of the trucks.
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  The truck hadn't realised and just gone to the depot.
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  Our pilot didn't see it and hit it.
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  So we sat on the plane and it's like a doom and the, you know,
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  the plane goes over this thing and then the pilot or copilot or
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  whoever hit the black, you know, emergency stop equivalent in the
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  car. Everybody looking, we're all
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  wearing our seatbelts. Everyone gets pitched forward
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  and like thrown back and the pilot's like, yeah, so we've
• 13:35
  just hit a gate that's that's on there and we can't move now
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  because it could make it worse. So we have to wait for somebody
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  to come out and move it. And you're like, well, that's
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  fine. 45 minutes later, they finally moved the gate.
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  So. Yeah, so.
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  Were you not going crazy or? Everybody's really, really
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  chilled about it. Actually it, it, it was so bad.
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  I think everyone was the point of delirium.
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  It was like. It's right there.
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  Was a we're alive. Yeah.
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  There's an elderly American woman and her adult daughter
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  behind me. And they're like, we're going to
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  miss our connection now. Well, it doesn't.
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  Many things happen, you know, it was, it was like half 11 at
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  night at that point. And everyone's just lost the
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  will to live. So.
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  Yeah, pretty much 4 hours late. It was like being in a diehard
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  film. It was like, you know, we're
• 14:18
  running out of fuel. We have to land quick, quick,
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  quick. When we do land, we hit
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  something, but you know, someones left on the runway,
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  like Bruce Willis opening up the drain cover.
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  It's like, Oh my God. And the legend Brett wait.
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  God bless him. I'm not religious, but God bless
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  him. Brett was sat there waiting for
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  me. Even David Williams had had an
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  hour and a half chat in the car while waiting in the short term
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  drop off zone. So please, hopefully Brett
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  doesn't get done for that. Yeah.
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  And then drove me back. I don't think there's any post
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  penalties here. You either get caught in the
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  actor or you're fine. It's not like in Europe, you
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  know, they catch you on a camera and they send you the picture a
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  month later and say there you go, £150 please.
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  Yes, I got to the hotel about half midnight eventually.
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  It's just like it's just a long day, but you know.
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  So that's you had Mike mail last year, John, I've had Mike mail
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  this year. So Mal, you are screwed.
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  You want to come a week early? Next year I'm doing, yeah, I'm
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  travelling on the Saturday beforehand.
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  Next year, give me a couple of days to get here.
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  Before stub your toe, then you know you have to go into the
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  hospital or. That that'll be it.
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  That that'll be it is you. You had problems before you got
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  on the flight. Rich had problems, the main one
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  after, you know, during the bit you would have thought you were
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  you have home free. I'll have a problem after I've
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  gotten off the flight. I'll be in the hotel and like,
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  you know, yeah, fall off a balcony or something.
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  Yeah. The best bit was how casual the
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  pilot was. He was just, he was virtually
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  horizontal. He was so relaxed.
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  He was like, yeah, there's loads of turbulence, but we'll be all
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  right. And he's like, yeah, but he's,
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  he was like, crew, sit down. But.
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  You do, you know, you do one flight every so often, Yes,
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  doing this every day of the week or like every working day, but.
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  He just announces casually, like, so we've got 10 minutes of
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  reserve fuel left, and then we've run out of that fuel and
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  everyone's like, what? What?
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  I don't need your transparency now, Sir, You know, tell us a
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  little why. Yeah, you know.
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  Yeah, just go surprise. London A Stuart.
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  Isn't this where we were supposed to go?
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  Yeah. Have you heard of Stewart
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  International? No, neither has anyone else.
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  Yeah, here we are. It was weird airport.
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  'Cause it was just, it was just full of, there was like two or
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  three fighter jets, yeah, like loads of military cargo planes.
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  Ah, it was just like. 50. Yeah, we could have played that
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  up, couldn't. He's like, there's been a
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  problem with the plane. We can't tell you what.
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  Yeah, please ignore the please ignore the military presence.
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  There we go. We're gonna get escorted by two
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  jets. But I think whatever he it did,
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  it worked because all of you in the plane were completely
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  relaxed about it there. Wasn't a crossword, everyone was
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  just literally. If he was, if he was kind of
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  tense, I think that would have fed into the quite possible.
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  Yeah, I think that definitely is a they must teach that at pilot
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  training. You know, if this, you know, it
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  could be on fire in the cockpit. You get on the thing and you
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  just you're you're performing. You're like you're on Saturday
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  Night Live. Just go.
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  This is your moment. See, our pilot, this is a bit of
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  a thing I've not sort of said to anyone.
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  He's our pilot because thing comes up on the please listen to
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  this important announcement and it's like, I'm sure, I'm sure
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  I'm all right. I won't say anything that I
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  didn't hear it. But like, because I fly for
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  Brussels, they did like all the announcements in English, but
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  then they did a lady, one of their hostesses spoke French, so
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  she did it in French. And then they also had an
• 17:41
  automated one in Flemish because Belgium has 2 languages and, and
• 17:46
  they're very particular about it because when I was, I was in
• 17:49
  hospital years ago in Brussels for a thing that I had to go to
• 17:52
  Brussels for. And the nurses, some of them
• 17:57
  were Flemish speaking. And when I tried to then speak
• 18:01
  my little bit of French, then they were like, no, no, no
• 18:03
  English. I don't speak French.
• 18:04
  It was like really like, or I can speak French, but I don't
• 18:08
  like to. And I love your English and I
• 18:09
  like to practice my English. I was like, OK, cool.
• 18:13
  I want the Flemish nurses, you know, I don't want any of the
• 18:16
  wee bonjours. I want the Flemish ladies and,
• 18:20
  and guys, whatever. As long as they speak their
• 18:22
  English to me, I'm good. Knowing I'm going to start
• 18:24
  referring to the French as the Wee Bonjours.
• 18:28
  And as it was, it was jaw surgery I had.
• 18:31
  So of course, you know, so, you know, even me speaking was
• 18:35
  tricky at the time. I used to play golf with this.
• 18:38
  Firstly, my our pilot was one of these.
• 18:40
  He had this American accent from movies.
• 18:42
  It was the most comforting thing.
• 18:44
  You know, he comes on the thing and you're like, well, God, this
• 18:46
  is he's, he's big pilot. You know, he is literally, he's
• 18:49
  chief of the Academy of Pilots. He sounds like, you know, he's
• 18:52
  been in the Air Force or whatever.
• 18:54
  And, and I used to play golf with a guy who's a retired
• 19:01
  pilot, like regular pilot. And he's in his retirement.
• 19:05
  He was doing this kind of simulator training with all the
• 19:07
  pilots to kind of, they have to do a certain amount of simulator
• 19:10
  hours to keep their license or whatever.
• 19:12
  And he's from kind of southern, he's like, he's lived in Europe
• 19:16
  for years, but he still had this kind of southern drawl.
• 19:18
  And he says to me, John, when I was growing up and learning to
• 19:23
  fly, flying was flying was dangerous and sex was safe.
• 19:27
  And now it's the other way around.
• 19:33
  It's brilliant. And he said, he said, yeah,
• 19:35
  there's so much technology in these planes.
• 19:37
  He said, it's pretty hard to crash them.
• 19:39
  You know, it's pretty hard. You know, stuff really has to go
• 19:43
  wrong and it's really only like, yeah, really bad air or freak
• 19:48
  event, whatever. So that gave me a little bit of
• 19:50
  comfort. I was never nervous flower.
• 19:52
  But you don't like the turbulence, Although I don't
• 19:55
  mind it in those big plates, you know, when you're in the kind of
• 19:57
  regular, like, you know, maybe 737, whatever the kind of the no
• 20:03
  middle aisles planes. There you really feel it.
• 20:06
  I find in the bigger ones you don't feel it unless it's
• 20:08
  really. Oh well felt I'll determine
• 20:12
  swipe through at one point it the proper big drop that
• 20:15
  sometimes happens. Yeah, Yeah.
• 20:16
  Well. It turned out the turbulence
• 20:18
  wasn't actually as bad as he said.
• 20:19
  We had about 10 minutes of sort of thing.
• 20:22
  Unfortunately, I was in the toilet when it started.
• 20:24
  Yes. So I did hit my head above the
• 20:26
  toilet because it it suddenly jerked.
• 20:29
  I was like, oh, OK, there we go then.
• 20:32
  Well, I, I funnily know if I got up to go to the toilet and then
• 20:35
  he kicked in, got into the toilet and immediately went back
• 20:39
  against the wall, felt like I'd nearly went through to the other
• 20:42
  toilet. Yeah, that firm.
• 20:44
  Fortunately, you know you then like right, like bronze.
• 20:50
  Demonstrating bronze, yeah. There's holding on to the,
• 20:53
  there's like a bar above the toilet that you can hold on to.
• 20:56
  And I was, I was holding on. Yeah, this is going to be all
• 20:59
  these recordings from regions counter mostly going to be
• 21:02
  listed audio listener specials. Yeah, I'm not a videographer, so
• 21:06
  yeah, you know, maybe we'll repackage them for YouTube, but
• 21:11
  I don't think that's probably a good idea.
• 21:14
  Like a scale of legions kind of the schedule.
• 21:17
  It doesn't. Seem to be still of me carrying
• 21:19
  a huge box of figures. So anyway, we were, we were
• 21:24
  having breakfast at this intern as I remember, and that went
• 21:29
  down for a little while and then we were kind of split into
• 21:31
  groups. But it was kind of you weren't
• 21:33
  told what to group to go was kind of all you're over, that's
• 21:36
  it. But there was a lot of people
• 21:37
  because I think they invited a good few, the likes of us.
• 21:40
  There was at least twice as many people.
• 21:43
  But it worked because, well, we get to have it worked really
• 21:46
  well. But so I was kind of near the
• 21:49
  front door. So Jeremy said, OK, the people
• 21:51
  over near the front door, you just go out and kind of form a
• 21:53
  group. And that was me.
• 21:55
  And you actually ended up that group.
• 21:56
  And then Mal was in another group.
• 21:58
  So then Jeremy called out who went where, and I didn't realize
• 22:03
  I thought the Armory was going to be a thing that everyone did
• 22:05
  at the end. But the Armory was one of the
• 22:08
  things and we were the first that was our first thing.
• 22:11
  It was like, it was a little bit like, you know, going straight
• 22:15
  to the cocaine, you know, like, you know, not not that I do
• 22:19
  that, but you know, it's like, like have a few beers.
• 22:21
  No, no, no, let's. Go straight to the whiskey.
• 22:24
  That you know. Yeah, there was a there was a
• 22:27
  slight fear in my heart at that point as, oh God, I'm trying to
• 22:29
  find pictures on my phone of what I wanted to get and this
• 22:31
  sort of stuff. Yeah, and I was already in the
• 22:35
  middle of the QR code thing and and then I was like kind of
• 22:38
  sucked into that hole. Then I was like, Oh my God.
• 22:40
  So the Armory was set up and apparently it was in a building
• 22:44
  across the parking lot from where the the main horsemen
• 22:47
  offices are. And it's set up exactly like
• 22:51
  it's going to be tomorrow in our Saturday.
• 22:53
  Yes. Legions gone.
• 22:55
  And it's really cool. It's kind of, it's kind of got
• 23:00
  this canopy over it and then two long rows of kind of tables with
• 23:04
  a kind of aisle in the middle where Joe and I guess Diego will
• 23:07
  be and or else is working there. And then the parts are all set
• 23:11
  up and you kind of go along and it's kind of foolproof.
• 23:14
  They have all this. We started at the heads,
• 23:16
  although they said they might actually leave the heads till
• 23:18
  the end because people felt that getting the heads first was a
• 23:22
  little bit fusing. But anyway, you've got the heads
• 23:25
  and you could pick first. You could get your plastic tray
• 23:29
  for like the box, and I took all four.
• 23:33
  Yeah, I realized that the smart thing to do would have been
• 23:36
  maybe to take one or two and then do 2 laps.
• 23:41
  Which in hindsight you could have done initially like oh I
• 23:45
  need to. Yeah, I need to get my.
• 23:47
  They allowed us to get 4, which was amazing and and so I was
• 23:53
  actually I got to get my four or before they say no to, you know,
• 23:57
  you're that in your head. Get it in before they realize
• 23:59
  the mistake. So Joe Vasa Polo had done this
• 24:02
  thing with the parts. So they're all in bags and in
• 24:04
  each each little like tray or kind of it's like a box, small
• 24:08
  little wooden tray box has bags of the head of the part.
• 24:12
  And then there's this wooden board on the back of the box
• 24:16
  popping up and it has the part that you're going to get in that
• 24:19
  bag glued onto it. So then you can, you don't need
• 24:21
  to be checking what's in this bag, what's in that bag do.
• 24:23
  You know they're on anything with that is the first head I
• 24:26
  picked up was the wrong head. No.
• 24:29
  And only about three people have been down the line before me.
• 24:31
  The one of them obviously picked it up and dropped it back.
• 24:33
  Yeah, well, that's that thing happened.
• 24:34
  So maybe take a glancing look, although this won't be out
• 24:37
  before before people have cross. People took a look.
• 24:40
  Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, yeah, so you go down and
• 24:44
  then you pick up. It was pretty cool process and
• 24:47
  it was very cool for, I mean, it wouldn't have mattered who it
• 24:50
  was because I think we know most people are a lot of people and
• 24:54
  if you're not, you get to know them.
• 24:55
  But it was pretty cool. Me and Rich were kind of side
• 24:57
  beside and Kent was behind me, who always comments on her show.
• 25:01
  So. So we kind of get to know him
• 25:03
  well as well. And we're all just sharing this
• 25:05
  kind of first experience. Jordan from Purple Gang Gang was
• 25:10
  the first one to check out. He was, he pretty much ran down
• 25:12
  the because they had the same figures on both sides.
• 25:15
  So he pretty much sprinted down just like throwing things in and
• 25:19
  then checked out first. So he was very purple things,
• 25:22
  lots of purple things. I'm sure man wants to say
• 25:26
  something. No, I just he can't have
• 25:28
  possibly done that because we did get it asked not to go from
• 25:33
  no exactly possibly. I'm sure he didn't.
• 25:36
  I'm sure he. Buried it up a little bit, must
• 25:38
  have had a mixture. And people were putting the the
• 25:44
  bare arms and legs. How many bare arms and legs now
• 25:47
  do you think Rich bought? You think it'd be 0?
• 25:50
  No, no, he'd already. Said it was 100% zero.
• 25:53
  I don't want 2 years often. 2/3. There was two, there was 2, and
• 25:57
  I don't know if he went for more.
• 25:59
  I didn't buy it. I have no idea what you're
• 26:00
  talking about. There is no photographic
• 26:02
  evidence suggests any any difference to that at all.
• 26:05
  John didn't make me pose, holding a bag of the barbarian
• 26:08
  parts and smiling. Yeah, yes, I bought 222.
• 26:11
  I bought $10 each. You can't.
• 26:13
  That was if I. Choose how much would they go
• 26:15
  for on the John's 122? They will be used for customs.
• 26:18
  John, thank you. Right, OK.
• 26:20
  Should I practice my? Should I practice my I need to
• 26:25
  get keep, I need to keep one of mine aside to practice paint
• 26:28
  matching for whatever head you want.
• 26:30
  Yeah, Basically, Yeah, that's fair.
• 26:33
  That's fair. That's a good shot, of course.
• 26:35
  Yeah, because you don't get that bare arms very often.
• 26:38
  Torso, you could just use them, repaint them and use them for
• 26:42
  other things. Yeah.
• 26:44
  It's the upper legs as well, isn't it?
• 26:45
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So with all the skin basically.
• 26:48
  It's all the all the good pieces.
• 26:50
  Yeah, for, yeah, it's all the stuff that people are
• 26:52
  desperately trying to find. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:55
  Everyone in pop and swap and pop and swap.
• 26:57
  The swap thing tomorrow, yeah, are going to be after those arms
• 27:00
  and legs, various colours, yeah, whatever sort of things I told.
• 27:03
  You why I didn't bring any with me?
• 27:05
  Because they're the bits I also will use for things.
• 27:08
  Yeah, but they're the parts I brought from other figures are
• 27:11
  not just them, but for the puff and swap event, any of those
• 27:16
  parts I had that I wasn't going to use.
• 27:18
  Yeah, I've definitely bought them above like, you know,
• 27:22
  whatever, maybe lower legs or whatever.
• 27:24
  They're definitely more valuable for customizers anyway.
• 27:29
  Yeah. So that was that was pretty
• 27:30
  crazy. And then the first person I
• 27:32
  thought do it was Eric Miller started to assemble his figure
• 27:35
  and put it in the box. And then he showed me this box
• 27:38
  with the Red Knight packed into it with, you know, the label
• 27:42
  around it. And and I was like, oh, that
• 27:44
  looks good. I I hated to do that point.
• 27:46
  That's a lovely man. But I hated it because it was
• 27:48
  like I didn't go for the Red Knight and that looks amazing.
• 27:51
  Damn you, Eric. Oh yeah, I started going on the
• 27:54
  way out. We had a backpack and he had a
• 27:56
  he had the black cloth tonight. It's sticking out of it.
• 27:59
  And I was like, Oh no, I didn't get one of them.
• 28:01
  What did I do? And then of course, I told Chris
• 28:07
  afterwards and he was like, I got one of them.
• 28:08
  I can I can swap you or you know, and I was like, Chris,
• 28:12
  you're too nice now, man. You're you're driving me here,
• 28:14
  there and everywhere. And you want to give me figure
• 28:17
  that you're going to forgo yourself then for so, But if I
• 28:21
  do get another chance that we can, I think that'd be my
• 28:23
  priority. One would be that black one.
• 28:24
  It just looks so good with that bucket helmet.
• 28:27
  One person that probably won't have that problem is is our
• 28:29
  friend Brett Slauddart because I think he has pretty much one of
• 28:31
  everything because he got 4 himself and then anybody else
• 28:34
  who wasn't getting four were were given a sheet.
• 28:37
  Employed. With pictures and the names of
• 28:39
  the parts so that they could put the correct combinations
• 28:42
  together, and then you. Got it, I mean.
• 28:45
  He was he getting people to mule.
• 28:47
  For him, yeah, the the sticking it up their ass was.
• 28:51
  It wasn't a prerequisite. But that was optional.
• 28:54
  But some of them went for it straight away, yeah.
• 28:57
  Let's just claim and say that that's just a joke.
• 29:00
  You think Brett, Brett is not involved in any sort of the
• 29:03
  legal activities like that. But I think Brett is the kind of
• 29:05
  guy even even even crazily hanging around for you to
• 29:11
  actually bring you back when you could just have easily got an
• 29:13
  Uber and. Yeah, I, I, I so genuinely can't
• 29:16
  believe. He just, when he does something,
• 29:18
  he does it. I think that's that's just
• 29:20
  Brett. So we have to love that about
• 29:23
  him. He's a very nice man.
• 29:25
  He's a great guy. And yeah, so that was the first
• 29:29
  thing. And I was like, wow, how can how
• 29:32
  can the day get better? What did you do first then?
• 29:34
  Now, what was your first event? The sculpting, it's only it's
• 29:41
  only a couple hours. Jeez, let's see how you're not.
• 29:46
  Talking about a wave that was revealed a month ago.
• 29:47
  That's after one day. Wait.
• 29:49
  I've had more the sculpting with Mr. Eric Treadway, which was
• 29:54
  awesome. Yeah.
• 29:55
  And. If that was a huge present for
• 29:59
  for Mr. Jones, we'll get to that because we were in there after.
• 30:02
  You. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:04
  Do you want me to talk about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:06
  So. So he obviously asks what, what
• 30:08
  people, what, what should he sculpt?
• 30:10
  And you know, one of the interns, because there was a mix
• 30:14
  of interns and guests and the guests understandably had been
• 30:20
  asked to sort of take a bit of a back seat like the interns who
• 30:23
  had paid, take charge of the sessions and lead the so.
• 30:28
  But you know, a few that we were guess that back, but the intern
• 30:34
  all we got with was a creature into which Eric was like, great,
• 30:37
  that's exactly what I like to do.
• 30:40
  And then because that's where it sort of stalled, no, I think
• 30:46
  they might not have been guests, actually, to be fair, there
• 30:48
  might have been interns, but they've done it before.
• 30:49
  It was Thomas Ballet and. Yeah, Thomas got the post, So he
• 30:53
  was. Definitely.
• 30:53
  Yeah, I was right. OK, so to be fair.
• 30:56
  But they were trying to sit back a bit as well, to be fair to
• 30:58
  them, and David suggested this. A lizard.
• 31:02
  A desert lizard. Goodman, David.
• 31:06
  And it's like watching a magician just, you know,
• 31:09
  casually. He sort of extends a little bit
• 31:13
  here and a little bit there on zebrush to give it a general
• 31:15
  shave. Rich extended as.
• 31:17
  Well, a little bulbous bit here. And then of course, he just
• 31:24
  starts like cutting into it, you know, metaphorically on the
• 31:29
  programme, cutting into it and pulling it this way and that
• 31:33
  way. And again, we're not talking
• 31:34
  about Rich here. We're talking about Eric
• 31:35
  Treadaway using Zebrush. But what I noticed about him is
• 31:39
  that he he made a big kind of sculpt into it, and then he used
• 31:42
  some other part of the, the tool, you know, to kind of
• 31:45
  smooth out what he's done. That's his kind of process, I
• 31:48
  guess. Yeah.
• 31:49
  Yeah. Almost like clay sculpting.
• 31:51
  Yeah. But it's on its screen.
• 31:52
  It's amazing. And and he produced that by the
• 31:54
  end of the session. We haven't finished.
• 31:56
  The school and this is like 45 minutes to you know, it's kind
• 31:59
  of 45 minutes session that maybe take you can go up to an hour,
• 32:04
  but it's usually. And by the end of the session,
• 32:07
  he produced a, a, a littered one of these sort of spiny lizard
• 32:12
  sort of heads with a neck piece that, and they're a bit like the
• 32:17
  thigh garnet piece, but designed to look a bit more like a
• 32:20
  lizard. And it was just so cool.
• 32:22
  Very, very cool looking. Yeah.
• 32:25
  Yeah, because we followed you in and it's fed, so I was excited
• 32:27
  at the sights of that. So I pretty much ran up and got
• 32:30
  a photograph of Eric sitting sitting in front of that before
• 32:32
  he took it off the screen. It's like he can do snake men.
• 32:37
  Yeah, Rich has this photo of like, Eric sitting there, like,
• 32:40
  you know, you know, those school photos you have, you know, when
• 32:43
  back in the day they just took, I'm sure they did it near
• 32:45
  school. Photographer come along and you
• 32:47
  sit at the desk, put your hands at the desk, you know, and
• 32:49
  whatever this school work is behind you on the wall.
• 32:53
  And this is just Eric sitting there, framed nicely in the
• 32:55
  middle of the photo with the lizard of the screen behind
• 32:58
  them. So slight detour to this because
• 33:00
  I've got a little funny story. Funny story about school photos.
• 33:04
  So I am very open, not open, honest and accepting of the fact
• 33:09
  I am not at all photogenic. That doesn't mean I think I'm
• 33:12
  ugly or funny looking, just some people don't photograph well and
• 33:16
  I'm one of those people. You.
• 33:17
  Always have a weird you or you think that you always have a
• 33:20
  weird pose, even when. And or I just have a really
• 33:23
  awkward looking face to the point that one year, one year we
• 33:28
  got the school photo, my mum opened it, looked at it and
• 33:32
  went, you think we'll send that back, shall we?
• 33:34
  Yeah. Oh.
• 33:40
  Wow. Kennedy.
• 33:41
  Yeah, wow. I mean, I, I what?
• 33:45
  Age we yeah, I was like. Young teen, you know, it was
• 33:50
  middle school, whatever that would wow so.
• 33:54
  It's not as funny as that, but my first ever school photographs
• 33:56
  are the first year in primary school, so I was about four,
• 33:59
  maybe 5 minutes in the. Picture was taken that already
• 34:02
  seems It already seems funny to think of you as a four year old
• 34:04
  and. I'm wearing makeup in the
• 34:07
  picture and obviously, obviously wearing makeup because I went
• 34:11
  straight over the handlebars on my bike about two days before it
• 34:13
  into all the skin off my nose, on my lip.
• 34:16
  So my mum do the photo. Yeah, so my mum's makeup to me
• 34:19
  over so, so it wouldn't show and I just look really weird because
• 34:23
  I'm just covered in makeup. It's just like, what the hell?
• 34:27
  The scars would have been better.
• 34:29
  Yeah, and it's show that I've, you know, I've had a child.
• 34:32
  Yeah, you know, I've done that. Instead, I look like a kind of a
• 34:36
  four year old drag queen. 4 year old catwalk model.
• 34:43
  Oh my goodness. If you can ever fish this actor
• 34:46
  out, though, that would. Be Oh, I've got it somewhere.
• 34:48
  Yeah, so I'll see what I can do. Oh, that might be a reason to
• 34:50
  put this on YouTube. It's just that picture.
• 34:53
  People will listen the whole way to see what that's about.
• 34:56
  Oh, my God. Yeah.
• 34:58
  So no, don't apologize. So that was a that was your
• 35:04
  snake man. So he colored yours in as well?
• 35:07
  Yes, he was. Well, Angie Hart, yeah, lady,
• 35:14
  good lady, wife, as Richard say was.
• 35:19
  That's still my life. Was asking about how he if he
• 35:25
  if. I can't remember the exact
• 35:27
  context in question, but it was around if he ever coloured
• 35:30
  things as he was sculpting to get an idea of whether it would
• 35:34
  work in a colour if he'd already had an idea what he want, you
• 35:39
  know, and that sort of thing. So he showed how that he can
• 35:41
  actually colour it in the programme and work with it
• 35:46
  coloured already cut as if he's using coloured clay to, you
• 35:50
  know, help it give him that idea of whether it's going to look
• 35:53
  how he wants it to. And so, yeah, so he would
• 35:55
  showing off that and that he could do different types of
• 35:58
  material that he could sculpting and that sort of thing.
• 36:02
  So that's why it was coloured. Yeah.
• 36:04
  Awesome. And so we did it in, in Z
• 36:06
  brushes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:07
  Or Z brushes. Yeah.
• 36:10
  Z Brush. Whatever even the Canadians
• 36:14
  agree with us on, this is Z Brush.
• 36:19
  But the amazing thing for me, haven't seen him twice now, is
• 36:21
  he does that while talking to everybody.
• 36:23
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's chatting about this,
• 36:25
  that and the other people while doing this.
• 36:27
  Absolutely stunning the sculpt. You know, this the screen, you
• 36:30
  know, this modern thing some people can do of like even have
• 36:33
  a conversation while they're flicking on their phone.
• 36:35
  I mean, I think as older people can really do that.
• 36:37
  If we're on the phone, we kind of lose the conversation.
• 36:39
  Younger people can do it. It's a bit like that, you know,
• 36:42
  he's just done the pad kind of, you know, and, and even one guy
• 36:47
  in our session said I've been looking at you because I've been
• 36:51
  kind of asking you the question, a couple of questions, and
• 36:53
  you've been talking back to me. So I haven't been looking at the
• 36:55
  screen. And then I look back at the
• 36:57
  screen and I'm like, oh, wow, when did that happen?
• 36:59
  Yeah. Yeah, you're just so good.
• 37:04
  Stupidly talented? Totally.
• 37:06
  Yeah. And so rich.
• 37:08
  What happened then in our session?
• 37:10
  So Gregory Schmergamuga said he wanted a female knight and.
• 37:18
  And we booed from the. Yeah, yeah.
• 37:19
  We were like, there was there was pitchforks out and all sorts
• 37:22
  of stuff. And Eric was like, oh, I hate
• 37:25
  humans. Great.
• 37:25
  OK, especially in a short time frame sort of thing.
• 37:28
  And then somebody else went, oh, what about a pumpkin knight?
• 37:30
  And he's like, OK, And somebody else went Wendigo and he's like,
• 37:33
  OK, female knight, pumpkin helmet, Wendigo horns.
• 37:37
  Let's do that. And you're like, dude, you've
• 37:39
  got like 45 minutes. And then he proceeded to at
• 37:43
  least a 15 minute introduction about how he resisted going to Z
• 37:47
  brush and all this sort of stuff.
• 37:49
  And you're like, you feel like you're looking at him going,
• 37:50
  dude, start, start. Don't go here.
• 37:52
  You're not, you're not run out of time here.
• 37:54
  You're run out of time. And then, yeah, you know, then
• 37:56
  he was answering people's questions like somebody asked
• 37:58
  him where he where, where he studied.
• 38:00
  So he's telling us about the University of Tennessee and, and
• 38:03
  all this sudden just chatting away about it, which is very
• 38:06
  interesting at the same time as doing this amazing sculpture,
• 38:09
  which looked incredible. By the end he ran out of time a
• 38:12
  little bit with the Wendigo horns, which he admitted himself
• 38:14
  but. It's gonna be good.
• 38:16
  I mean, I'd be happy with those. Yeah, I mean, it's not as good
• 38:18
  as some of the horns that I've drawn in my drawings, so the
• 38:20
  people who watched the Line episodes know, but it was, yeah,
• 38:23
  they were pretty good. Yeah.
• 38:25
  So he did this female like kind of in the, if you imagine then
• 38:29
  like Faustia or Hadriana and that kind of, you know, in the
• 38:32
  helmet. And So what he did was did the
• 38:35
  the female face first, you know, the kind of ball, like a bald
• 38:39
  head. And then he takes his other kind
• 38:42
  of almost like another ball of clay and he stuck it on top of
• 38:45
  it. And then he was able to subtract
• 38:47
  that from the face so that the face then popped out of the
• 38:50
  thing. And then he made the kind of
• 38:52
  helmet and then, then he, yeah, just blobbed another thing on
• 38:57
  top of it and met the pumpkin as if that's going to be like the.
• 39:00
  I suppose you think of it as metal.
• 39:02
  That you could, yeah. It's a faceplate you could lift
• 39:04
  up with stuff. Like the lion, that is it.
• 39:07
  Hey, Diana had yes. And then yeah, then at the end
• 39:10
  then he just stuck the Wendy goals on the back of it and it
• 39:12
  was like a holy crap. And he did this thing with the
• 39:16
  pumpkin as well where he was able to kind of basically do a
• 39:20
  little bit of masking and magic. He explained it all.
• 39:23
  I can't recall it exactly, but it meant that the kind of inside
• 39:28
  of the pumpkin helmet just kind of all hollowed out.
• 39:30
  And then you could see the eyes of the of the yeah through the
• 39:35
  through just incredible because he did the face of yeah, you
• 39:38
  know, like you would do. And as he did at that point,
• 39:40
  Corn Boy, who was in the session for a little bit as well.
• 39:43
  What? And that's why he's a genius.
• 39:45
  And then just walked out of the room after Dear Mike dropped.
• 39:49
  Yeah, absolutely superb. And yeah, so then, yeah, like,
• 39:55
  incredible, I asked him. Then just as I was going out the
• 39:57
  door, I said, do you ever get nervous doing this?
• 40:00
  He said. The first time or two I was kind
• 40:01
  of, you know, I did a lot of talking before.
• 40:03
  Before I kind of got to it because it was, you know,
• 40:06
  worried about maybe not being able to do it in the time or,
• 40:09
  you know, kind of messing up. But he's done it enough Times
• 40:12
  Now that he just knows he's going to get edit done.
• 40:16
  And I suppose the one thing with this is of course he doesn't
• 40:19
  have to. This is not a challenge where it
• 40:22
  has to then get printed off or whatever.
• 40:24
  So I'm sure if he liked any of those things, lizards, he could
• 40:29
  refine it and beautify it even more and scale, like make it
• 40:35
  scale it even better. Yeah.
• 40:36
  I think I said a couple of times in the session, you know, it's
• 40:39
  like, Eric, do these, do these. So yeah, you can definitely do
• 40:42
  that. Yeah, for sure.
• 40:44
  And what was your second session now?
• 40:48
  Second session, was it to be a few hours it?
• 40:52
  Was the painting examples and. Who did you go with?
• 40:58
  Yeah, they say there's a choice, obviously if Sherry or Cameron.
• 41:00
  And I went with Cameron and it was very interesting.
• 41:04
  He, he, he, he did a a very interesting sort of way of
• 41:08
  presenting changing colour schemes to reflect the story
• 41:15
  behind something. Up with the sword, yeah, Yeah.
• 41:17
  So we did the same sort to explain that to us.
• 41:20
  So was it 5 swords? I think he had and he started
• 41:24
  off. Look at me, I wasn't in a
• 41:25
  session, all right. That's it, 5 or 6 swords.
• 41:28
  Oh yeah, you were in. Yeah, that's with Sherry and.
• 41:31
  Yeah. And the first one was very
• 41:33
  basically painted or metallic, maybe a bit of shading on it.
• 41:38
  And yeah. So.
• 41:39
  So what do you think is the story behind that one?
• 41:41
  Which characters would carry that?
• 41:43
  And obviously, oh, it's leisure builders.
• 41:45
  It's yeah. Rank and file soldier.
• 41:48
  Yeah. OK.
• 41:49
  And then he handed another one out that had a bit of a gold
• 41:54
  handle, the hilt, whatever you call it, and part of the handle
• 41:59
  painted red as if it had some sort of fabric wrap on it and
• 42:02
  said so. And then So what?
• 42:04
  What would have that? And you're like, well, something
• 42:05
  a bit higher quality of figure with more paint APS, maybe a
• 42:10
  general in an army, if that sort of thing, or a named character.
• 42:14
  It's like, yeah. And then handed another one out
• 42:19
  that I think was the one that had block bluish hue.
• 42:22
  And he'd done a bit of an effect on the end, a bit of shimmer
• 42:25
  paint. And it was like watching that
• 42:28
  was in sort of, you know, I think everyone realized it's
• 42:32
  meant to be something more magical, something sort of.
• 42:35
  And he said, yeah, that was my sort of showing what a magical
• 42:38
  sword could look like. And then one after that was when
• 42:44
  he'd rusted up. Well, sorry, it was a metal
• 42:47
  sword, but then with a paint tap to make it look like he'd rusted
• 42:50
  it up and again, you know, so that's obvious what that belongs
• 42:53
  to. That's going to be one of the
• 42:54
  Necronominus sort of characters, a skeleton build or something
• 42:57
  like that. And then finally another one,
• 43:01
  which I can't remember what the handle was like on that one.
• 43:04
  I think there was a bit of extra paint on that, but it's sort of
• 43:06
  done a bit of greenish sort of sickly looking hue on the end
• 43:11
  with a bit of darker green to get across the idea it's poison
• 43:14
  tips or, or something like that. And it was really a simple,
• 43:19
  effective way of showing how a paint app can change the meaning
• 43:24
  or the characterization of even a sword.
• 43:27
  And then he talked about a variety of different things,
• 43:31
  answered questions, but quickly or at the end, well, not
• 43:34
  quickly, but you know, at the end of it sort of talked about
• 43:37
  like the Valiant night. He was asked to do the paint app
• 43:40
  for that and keeping it neutral. So he'd have this little sheet
• 43:44
  of paper where he'd sort of tested colours and, you know,
• 43:50
  done the design for the shield, trying to use colours that
• 43:53
  didn't appear because one of the is prompts for that was to make
• 43:57
  sure it didn't look like it belonged to any other faction
• 44:00
  that existed. So he was trying to find colours
• 44:02
  that weren't necessarily indicative of any of the other
• 44:06
  factions. And it was.
• 44:07
  Yeah, really interesting. Really, really cool.
• 44:11
  Yeah. So he did pretty similar for us
• 44:13
  with the sword. That was awesome.
• 44:15
  And we had a couple of questions about skin tones and he talked
• 44:18
  about he did, he has his own kind of mix for kind of neutral
• 44:24
  like Caucasian skin tone. Yes, we got that question as
• 44:27
  well. And yeah, so that.
• 44:29
  He works basically from the mid tone to it and if he wants to go
• 44:32
  slightly darker on the skin tone then he'll he'll put a wash
• 44:35
  that's darker and if he wants to go later then he'll kind of
• 44:39
  highlight. It, it's bonkers, isn't it?
• 44:41
  Because the, the bass tones he's using and even one of the ivory
• 44:44
  tones he's using to lighten up his bass tones or his mid tone,
• 44:49
  it's really cheapo paint, isn't it?
• 44:51
  It's that I forget what it's called, but Apple barrel do them
• 44:56
  and those sorts of they really like.
• 44:58
  We don't get them so much in the UK and you're well, I don't
• 45:02
  think Europe. It's these brands that seems to
• 45:05
  be common in hobby shops in Europe, isn't it?
• 45:07
  And and that's what he's using. He's more the most expensive
• 45:10
  part of that was he's then using the flesh wash Ryklin fresh
• 45:14
  flesh shade from Citadel. Yeah, if he wants to, you know,
• 45:19
  deepen the toe, the tones and the the recesses on it, which,
• 45:23
  yeah, it's mad, Yeah. Shows the skill, Yeah.
• 45:27
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 45:28
  And I talked about brushes, but airbrush he doesn't use that
• 45:32
  much but uses it to do but a muscle definition and kind of
• 45:36
  put shades, shadows in kind of our blend colors that are hard
• 45:39
  to that was a. Fascinating thing because we got
• 45:42
  onto the sort of, you know, when I've sort of, I think if you
• 45:45
  paint minis and realize why you're painting minis, even if
• 45:47
  you're not very good at it, you understand that you're doing
• 45:50
  highlights to, to act like the shadows to, to because it's a
• 45:55
  still thing, whatever size a statue is or a mini is.
• 46:00
  Because if it's static, you are going to have to paint the
• 46:03
  highlights to reflect the source of light because it is not
• 46:06
  moving. Whereas with a figure, you don't
• 46:08
  need to do that because it's not going to stay in.
• 46:11
  I mean, it probably is going to stay in one position.
• 46:13
  Not many of us, but. But you don't want to have like,
• 46:16
  a dark shadow under the arm if then the arm's going to be
• 46:19
  raised in the air. But he did say what he will do
• 46:22
  is on a head because more often than not, it's going to be
• 46:25
  displayed with the head facing forward.
• 46:27
  We'll do a light airbrush so, you know, from underneath the
• 46:32
  chain. Yeah.
• 46:33
  Yeah. To dark give a bit of shadow in
• 46:36
  the eyes. Yeah, that's what I did with the
• 46:38
  leprechaun heads I painted. Yeah, but the the more kind of,
• 46:41
  you know, that red can in this. I did that from the bottom up.
• 46:44
  It's funny because I do, I mean, I don't use an airbrush, but I
• 46:47
  do do it. But more not the thinking about
• 46:50
  it because I'll I'll dry brush, but dry brush down to keep that
• 46:55
  darker shades in the Yeah. Yeah, it's it, you know, it's it
• 47:00
  is trial and error a bit with it.
• 47:01
  The only good thing with it, if you do it very subtly, you can,
• 47:05
  you can kind of experiment a bit.
• 47:08
  And if you do, if it goes a bit too much, then you can just kind
• 47:11
  of push it back with the color. The hard thing to do is if you
• 47:14
  have like a mix of the skin tone and it's a mix of a lot of
• 47:17
  different colors and then you shade it with the airbrush and
• 47:20
  then you like, oh, I need to lighten it up again.
• 47:23
  You're like, what? What color do I do now?
• 47:25
  I've kind of mixed a lot of colors.
• 47:27
  So it's kind of you need to know, can I get back to where I
• 47:30
  was before you start doing something, maybe as an
• 47:33
  experiment. Yeah.
• 47:34
  So I went to Cameron Session last year.
• 47:35
  So I thought go to Sherry's issue.
• 47:38
  So she did differently actually. There were no like products to
• 47:41
  show off or anything like that. It was it was more a case of she
• 47:45
  talked us through she uses the this is so flat paints that they
• 47:49
  like. So she talked through that a lot
• 47:52
  and just her background sort of thing and talked about how this
• 47:54
  particular brand of paint which she used for 10 plus years and
• 47:58
  then they just stopped making it.
• 47:59
  And then there was a couple of years where her and other people
• 48:04
  in the studio struggled to find a decent paint.
• 48:06
  And then they go, they're so flat came in and they, they like
• 48:09
  that now sort of thing. And then, yeah, just a lot of
• 48:12
  stuff about the general studio. I I took over the questioning
• 48:16
  base. I kept apologising to everybody.
• 48:17
  I was asking all sorts of questions.
• 48:20
  I was like, you know, how long does it take to paint like a
• 48:22
  normal sized figure from top to bottom?
• 48:25
  And she's, oh, we can be a little bit longer depending on
• 48:27
  how complicated it is, but two days if there's a rush on.
• 48:30
  And I was like, that's pretty much all Cameron said last year.
• 48:32
  So yeah, that makes sense. I was like, do you and Cameron
• 48:35
  pick which fit? You know, it's like of a 10/11
• 48:37
  figure wave. Do you pick which ones do you
• 48:38
  want? She's like, no, we've got George
• 48:40
  now, so he's the office manager. So we just get given.
• 48:46
  But that was really, really interesting.
• 48:47
  She's really open about stuff and just chatting about, you
• 48:50
  know, how she started working with them, what it was like to
• 48:55
  work there sort of thing. And yeah, it's been really good,
• 48:58
  really good chat. Yeah, it was on that same topic,
• 49:01
  Cameron did say, you know, that generally if there's females,
• 49:05
  Sherry will do them because if she likes doing them and he's.
• 49:09
  Yeah, that. And they kind of they kind of
• 49:12
  know what each other wants, their likes.
• 49:15
  And sometimes then if there's, if someone gets paid maybe two
• 49:18
  or three bangers in a row, maybe the other person think it's the
• 49:21
  next. Yeah, that makes sense.
• 49:22
  Here, you know, yeah. So they I think they have a good
• 49:26
  working kind of relationship. Yeah, but no, it's really
• 49:29
  interesting session, actually, very different Thorn Cameron
• 49:31
  did. But really nice to hear a lot
• 49:33
  about Sherry actually, because, you know, she's quite behind the
• 49:35
  scenes a lot of the time with the Horsemen stuff, probably
• 49:37
  more so than a lot of the other people there.
• 49:40
  So which is really nice to hear her talking about, you know,
• 49:42
  Yeah, life and painting. You know, she trained up as a
• 49:44
  classical painter and then moved from that into toy painting sort
• 49:48
  of thing, but loves toy painting.
• 49:49
  So yeah, all really good stuff. Cool.
• 49:53
  And then after that we went for lunch.
• 49:59
  No, no, no session. Was there?
• 50:02
  Well, that was you then. Oh, you were with the?
• 50:04
  Net and yeah, that's when I then went to Oh yeah, of course you
• 50:09
  did the painting youth. So what was your session when,
• 50:12
  oh, you were doing the sculpting when?
• 50:14
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, So yeah. So then I, yeah, my session
• 50:18
  whilst you were with Cameron and Sherry was yeah, you did half of
• 50:24
  the time with Trevor Williams being shown about the lighting
• 50:30
  and half the time with Nate Barch showing you about the
• 50:34
  artwork and the packaging and. So.
• 50:37
  Yeah, again. Trevor Trevor gave an absolutely
• 50:39
  awesome demonstration of how to use blue lighting.
• 50:42
  It was just incredible top to toe.
• 50:44
  Everyone's suggesting other colours.
• 50:46
  He's like no blue blue. Blue all the way, guys.
• 50:49
  You know Trevor. Did an incredible demo he.
• 50:52
  Was super. He was such a good demon.
• 50:54
  Teasing him out. Rich is teasing.
• 50:58
  Richard Jones is teasing it. He had his camera set up, he had
• 51:02
  a diode there, he had a skeleton and a night fighting and he the
• 51:07
  smoke thing, the smoke machine. That smoke machine was.
• 51:11
  Incredible. I want for no good reason.
• 51:14
  It's like, it's like a, it's like a big vape almost.
• 51:18
  And you can use different modes. There's one where it squirts the
• 51:22
  smoke onto the floor and makes like a puddle of the smoke.
• 51:26
  Yeah, it's called like liquid ice mode or something.
• 51:28
  Isn't it a liquid ice? Everyone was just like, whoa.
• 51:31
  Quit smoke. Yeah.
• 51:33
  And what he what he tends to do is he'll get couple of different
• 51:38
  shots with the different kind of smoke and then he'll kind of
• 51:42
  composite them together a little bit with masking and Photoshop
• 51:46
  so that he gets the kind of smoke that he wants from the
• 51:49
  different shots because he can't do, you know, with the smoke.
• 51:53
  It's a little bit of luck in terms of how you get it him you
• 51:56
  can put it in and you know where you want it to go, but you have
• 51:59
  to kind of pick the best shots. And so that's how he puts them
• 52:01
  together. And he also showed us how to use
• 52:04
  bounce lighting, which Mal seems to want to do here for, you
• 52:08
  know. I'm just trying to give the room
• 52:09
  a good. Ambience in the in the room
• 52:11
  yeah, we're going to have like wall to wall bounce lighting
• 52:13
  here for the next one love it love it but.
• 52:16
  Yeah, and then Nate, I mean, Nate is just such a great.
• 52:19
  Place to hug you know he's so modest as well, though he's
• 52:22
  once. Once he figured out how to use
• 52:24
  the screen, which he took a bit of time, the session was amazing
• 52:28
  as it was last. Year, it's like, oh, you know,
• 52:31
  it's only shapes and colours. Yeah.
• 52:34
  It's like you're having a laugh on it.
• 52:35
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 52:36
  Have you seen the figure obscurial packaging you did on
• 52:39
  Frankenstein and he didn't go through that?
• 52:41
  Yeah, that and that was, I thought that for me was one of
• 52:44
  the bit that I was like, that's cool.
• 52:46
  So even where the window of the window box would go, he he
• 52:50
  draws, he fills it in, but he doesn't maybe complete it.
• 52:54
  But then he'd put a little Easter egg, as he called it,
• 52:57
  with the haggon face peering through the the gap in the the
• 53:02
  notes. Which was.
• 53:03
  Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, I think ours got cut short
• 53:06
  before that that, but I saw him show that to the next group when
• 53:09
  I was going between. Oh, he started with that for us.
• 53:12
  OK, Yeah. But he was he was really
• 53:14
  interesting because he was saying because he did, you know,
• 53:16
  packaging last year sort of thing.
• 53:18
  But he was saying, like for the the figure obscure, it takes him
• 53:21
  weeks to do 1 picture sometimes and there's like four in a box.
• 53:26
  So he's like, yeah, that one's easy, no problem at all.
• 53:28
  That one's pretty quick. And those two two weeks each,
• 53:30
  Yeah. And it's like, wow, OK, that's a
• 53:33
  lot of work. Yeah, because two of the
• 53:35
  pictures are proper, he said. Those are proper paintings, you
• 53:38
  know. Yeah, he said.
• 53:40
  He said in our session. He, he, he, he, he.
• 53:43
  He's the fight, the bit he finds most enjoyable.
• 53:47
  He's doing the more abstract patterns and shapes and you
• 53:50
  know, and maybe say he's got to do the Four Horsemen logo on top
• 53:54
  of those patterns. That's what he really enjoys and
• 53:57
  finds the most fun. But then yeah, I mean, he's
• 54:00
  obviously a fantastic artist anyway that can then go and do
• 54:04
  the more detailed. Drawings as well.
• 54:07
  Totally. Yeah.
• 54:07
  And. All round lovely human being,
• 54:10
  Yes, absolutely, yeah. The best of the best.
• 54:14
  And then we got pizza for lunch with wings, fries and big cooler
• 54:21
  full of coke and water and stuff like that.
• 54:25
  And you've got a lovely Americans salad.
• 54:27
  There's like they had a Caesar salad there.
• 54:29
  It's like loads of leaves. That's fine.
• 54:31
  And then the biggest croutons you've ever seen in your life
• 54:34
  covered in cheese and then massive, thick slices of
• 54:38
  Parmesan, good Parmesan. And then like a really heavy
• 54:42
  Caesar sauce and it was gorgeous.
• 54:44
  But it's like, that's so American compared to like Europe
• 54:46
  where it'd be like, no, it's healthy and it's this and it's
• 54:49
  that. And then it's like, no, we just,
• 54:51
  there you go. You might get a bit of a vinegar
• 54:53
  act on it. How are we still fat?
• 54:59
  That's all the burgers. I Yeah.
• 55:01
  I put a lot of vinegar out on my chip also maybe.
• 55:05
  We don't eat the salad. That's it.
• 55:09
  No, but it was a great, it was a great spread.
• 55:10
  It's great to get fed, you know. Yeah, of course it would.
• 55:14
  They couldn't have to, but they they really do it properly.
• 55:17
  So yeah. And I love the.
• 55:18
  I'm not sure it was a New Jersey thing necessarily, but the
• 55:21
  slices are so big and they're quite thin.
• 55:23
  Yeah. So you have to fold them in half
• 55:24
  to eat them sort of thing. And it's basically such an
• 55:27
  American thing. Yeah.
• 55:28
  It's. Just, and it's great way to and
• 55:29
  it was in the backroom of where the Armory was.
• 55:31
  So we kind of, we were sitting around on the floor beside the
• 55:35
  Armory. It kind of goes maybe.
• 55:39
  That's what that's again, and Angie said this in our session
• 55:43
  where we were doing the armouries by the point that we
• 55:46
  were quite, it was actually quite good to see it before we
• 55:50
  had to do it because at least you're prepared for, yes, what
• 55:53
  you're going to see and how you're going to do it, yeah.
• 55:56
  Although the surprise is nice too, but I mean you got the
• 55:58
  surprise in that you saw it then when you walked.
• 56:01
  Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, it's still a cool
• 56:02
  surprise. Yeah, yeah.
• 56:03
  And it just such a fun thing to. Do as we were told not to post
• 56:08
  any pictures from the Armory in the Cabal.
• 56:10
  So we we complied and we'll post a couple of pictures from what
• 56:14
  our experience in the Armory next week.
• 56:16
  Yes, yeah, one speech comes. So if you've seen any pictures
• 56:21
  from the Armory experience before the weekend, then they
• 56:25
  shouldn't have seen them basically.
• 56:27
  So Unsee them. Unsee them now, please.
• 56:32
  Well, it's fine now. This is like a week later.
• 56:33
  At the time of recording, we hope you once saw them.
• 56:39
  Yeah. So how was your You tell us your
• 56:41
  Army experience then? It just it's it's it's such it
• 56:49
  it's just so fun just picking the bit, singing.
• 56:53
  Oh, well, I've that bit. I don't agree with that bit and
• 56:56
  I'd already got two of my designs, so it so I got that
• 57:00
  they provided you with, as we've already said, a tray.
• 57:03
  And then I thought, oh, you know the way I'll do it then is
• 57:06
  because you get the plastic trays as well that form the
• 57:09
  front of the boxes usually. But the plastic slip of the
• 57:13
  boxes are laid all but I could only lay three of them out on
• 57:17
  the wooden wooden tray that we got.
• 57:20
  There was that was called tray. Yeah, yeah.
• 57:23
  They were acquired for the wooden and what I did was so I
• 57:27
  built it into the boxes. You know what?
• 57:29
  I built it. I picked the parts into each
• 57:31
  box, so I knew. And the last one, I kind of put
• 57:34
  some at the bottom and so the top.
• 57:35
  And yeah, he was just, I'd got to already decided I was
• 57:38
  exactly. And I've looked at them so many
• 57:40
  times and like, yeah, I love those builds.
• 57:43
  And yeah, as I was building, like look.
• 57:45
  Did you know the experience of seeing the parts then suddenly
• 57:48
  in person and going, oh, that's those older pollens look so
• 57:52
  good, like those valiant night shoulder forms in red.
• 57:56
  Yeah, I was going to get the whole the other ones and then I
• 57:58
  saw them and I was like, no, sorry, I have to check what I
• 58:01
  decided, but I'm I'm getting these that.
• 58:03
  Read through me because obviously in the pictures and
• 58:05
  this is not a Dick Trevor no, but in the pictures they were
• 58:08
  really quite vibrant Reds yeah and this this was more of a
• 58:11
  really rich is much. Better.
• 58:13
  Yeah, and really rich, but that threw me for a second.
• 58:16
  Look kind of sticky in, you know what I mean?
• 58:18
  That kind of glue, yeah. You know, almost like it was
• 58:20
  like blood. But there you go.
• 58:22
  Here's the work of people and me maybe is I'd argue the red was
• 58:26
  very much my favorite colour. But in terms of wanting builds,
• 58:30
  most of what I built were green. Yeah, because there was
• 58:35
  something about the green. It was a bit more, I don't know,
• 58:38
  it's unusual and you know, just happened to be I thought, well,
• 58:43
  so, so third the third, but I've got the two that figures that
• 58:49
  from our show that we we talked where we talked about what
• 58:53
  builds we would do. I used two of them that came up
• 58:55
  with third one. I then tried to do a sort of as
• 58:59
  close to the vulgus builder that you can't get anywhere close to
• 59:02
  it, but as close to as similar with the parts we had.
• 59:06
  And then the 4th 1 was just a load of parts, which one part of
• 59:10
  it was the green waste, the second part, the second green
• 59:15
  wastes to get the crotch piece. But then I went with the green
• 59:20
  cloth legs as well because that was I like the cloth part And
• 59:24
  that was the cloth part I hadn't already used besides the black.
• 59:27
  And I feel like we get a lot of black or we got a lot of black
• 59:31
  cloth parts at this point and we're getting them with Fisher
• 59:34
  rice. So I didn't I.
• 59:35
  Love the the torso though, I didn't get that black.
• 59:38
  Yeah, I must admit, yeah, I didn't get that, but it did look
• 59:41
  I did. So yeah.
• 59:45
  And the listeners will be absolutely staggered and amazed
• 59:48
  to hear this. But Mal changed his mind on
• 59:51
  something. We've got to the tail and.
• 59:53
  Went back and swapped. Yeah, yeah, I didn't.
• 59:58
  Hear this, This is good. Yeah, I ended up with settling
• 1:00:00
  here two of the same. It's only a quick one.
• 1:00:03
  I ended up with two of the same type of head.
• 1:00:06
  The the one that first came on the Relic guard was it?
• 1:00:13
  Bucket helmet. Yeah, the, you know, the brown
• 1:00:16
  tall one with the horns. It wasn't the rally guard, was
• 1:00:18
  it? Oh, the dark Templar.
• 1:00:20
  Dark Templar, So I had two of them.
• 1:00:22
  I had a green one and then the I went with the gun metal one
• 1:00:28
  because it looked quite cool with then these the white metal
• 1:00:31
  strip across in cross and must have got no idea what I'll use
• 1:00:35
  it for. It's just one of the coolest
• 1:00:36
  looking, especially that type of helmet.
• 1:00:40
  And I was like, well, and then I don't really then 1A green one
• 1:00:44
  of that as well. I'd rather have another type of
• 1:00:48
  helmet to get. So yeah, I just went back and I
• 1:00:51
  was there with my pile and went, Sam, one of the Arizona guys,
• 1:00:56
  you go in front. I need to go back.
• 1:01:00
  Actually, I threw a Mull under the bus, but I did swap
• 1:01:01
  something. About four hours after I did the
• 1:01:03
  thing, I suddenly realized I had a golden gourd and it was like,
• 1:01:10
  no, there's a bit more exciting, I thought.
• 1:01:12
  I swapped it for a golden duck. Of course, I mean, that's.
• 1:01:15
  That's the ducks are more fun accessory so.
• 1:01:17
  Gorge is the one I didn't get out of the four.
• 1:01:20
  Isn't there 5? There's five in total, yeah.
• 1:01:22
  Yeah, I got the Krampus brushes. The the fox or the puppy?
• 1:01:25
  Was it puppy? Yeah, it's a puppy.
• 1:01:27
  It's a fox. It looks like a.
• 1:01:28
  It looks. Like, it's been painted in both
• 1:01:30
  ways, doesn't it? It could be a.
• 1:01:31
  Fox a puppy, the the Peach and the duck.
• 1:01:35
  Well, I I totally went him be like, yeah, I'm going to get
• 1:01:38
  switch, might even get 4 switches.
• 1:01:40
  And then as I thought about it more and more talked to a couple
• 1:01:43
  of people. I was like all the other four
• 1:01:44
  things is much more fun. Yeah, it's just that the the
• 1:01:49
  branches are much, there's much more gold paint, so it's
• 1:01:52
  shinier. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:54
  If you're, if you're a hawk just collecting the gold stuff, it's
• 1:01:57
  like, well, I'm gonna just get four of them because there's
• 1:01:59
  more gold. And realistically, it's probably
• 1:02:01
  the most useful in terms of yeah, feels like it could be
• 1:02:05
  used as part of your character. Yeah, I don't currently have any
• 1:02:07
  custom plans for a gold duck. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:12
  So diesel gold. These would be little trinkets
• 1:02:14
  on my desk or. The duck may go to my daughter.
• 1:02:17
  In fairness, she's a big fan of ducks.
• 1:02:18
  Oh, there you go. To the point that she keeps
• 1:02:20
  demanding one's a pet and they're like, no, oh, we're
• 1:02:22
  getting a duck. No, no.
• 1:02:24
  But you need a pond out. Exactly.
• 1:02:25
  Yeah, we're not digging a massive pond in the garden
• 1:02:27
  etcetera for a duck now. Imagine what noise that's going
• 1:02:29
  to make you. Yeah.
• 1:02:30
  They're really messy birds. That was the gardeners.
• 1:02:33
  So bad there. Oh yeah, I used to play golf
• 1:02:36
  with this Chinese guy. He had a Chinese restaurant,
• 1:02:39
  ducks in between the 10th and the 11th old in the lake, and he
• 1:02:44
  would always go, oh, dinner. He was making a joke.
• 1:02:49
  I'm not sure you know, because I know duck is quite a popular
• 1:02:53
  dish, isn't? It I've always said I'd love a
• 1:02:55
  pet duck, except I'd feel really guilty when I was enjoying one
• 1:02:58
  of my favorite meats, which is duck.
• 1:03:01
  He would know that duck, that pet duck.
• 1:03:02
  Yeah, I cook in it. Similarly, I've been pushing
• 1:03:06
  really, really hard for about 8 or 9 years now for a micro pig.
• 1:03:10
  In fact for us, but I love bacon sandwiches.
• 1:03:14
  I would feel so guilty. Bacon sandwich.
• 1:03:17
  Little yeah, little Mr. Porky's running around that I'm eating
• 1:03:20
  one of his brethren. He's.
• 1:03:21
  Like, sorry, what's a micro pig, you know?
• 1:03:24
  And then like it's the smallest. Pig that gets to a tiny tiny
• 1:03:27
  full grown sauce if. It's not stinking and rolling
• 1:03:29
  around and no. They they make good house pairs.
• 1:03:32
  No. And they're teeny tiny.
• 1:03:35
  How much my mancoon with the micro?
• 1:03:37
  Pig, yeah, yeah. But yeah, these twin each which
• 1:03:41
  these pigs are a native. Mancoon would be pig.
• 1:03:43
  Yeah, yeah, I think they're. Native to India originally sort
• 1:03:46
  of thing. They are tiny, tiny little
• 1:03:48
  things that have, you know, just squashed me this little.
• 1:03:51
  And it's not, this is not some sort of genetic experiment.
• 1:03:53
  It's just I think. Initially when it first became a
• 1:03:57
  craze, a lot of people ended up with full size pigs, but now
• 1:04:00
  they've bred, you know it's properly.
• 1:04:01
  OK, so it's bread. Like that is a breeding thing.
• 1:04:04
  Yeah, so. But again, I like sausages, I
• 1:04:06
  like, I love bacon sandwiches. So I just I talk.
• 1:04:08
  Belly is one of my oh. Pork belly's amazing.
• 1:04:11
  Yeah. Pork cheek is delicious.
• 1:04:14
  Yeah, exactly. Yes.
• 1:04:18
  What? Was I going to call him Mr.
• 1:04:20
  Scratchings? Unfortunately won't.
• 1:04:22
  Won't be a pet. Oh my.
• 1:04:25
  God that is an amazing name. Scratchings.
• 1:04:29
  I'd like designed the like an enclosure.
• 1:04:32
  Kerry's like we're not getting a micro pick and I'm like, but
• 1:04:34
  I've drawn the enclosure. She's like, I don't care.
• 1:04:41
  Shall we we we could we can say this now, Rich, but you have
• 1:04:44
  done some prints for allegiance kind.
• 1:04:47
  Some prints yes, I have so anybody that's.
• 1:04:49
  Seen have happened by the time. Anyone that's seen my let's be,
• 1:04:54
  you know, brutally honest here or inspiring art on the live.
• 1:04:58
  Shows. I think that's a fair
• 1:05:00
  description. It's or SH1T is.
• 1:05:03
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. My daddy started it.
• 1:05:05
  I was people were like jokingly saying, oh, you should do the
• 1:05:08
  calendar, all this sort of stuff.
• 1:05:09
  And I did price it up and decided to know it's not worth
• 1:05:12
  it. But I did print out quite, I
• 1:05:15
  think 4/4 of each of 12 different of drawings of mine.
• 1:05:18
  So I'll cut them up and sign them and number them obviously,
• 1:05:21
  because I'm a professional and then they and they then they can
• 1:05:25
  be given out. You're not going to chat table
• 1:05:28
  for a lot of people. Be given that for it.
• 1:05:31
  I've also in our last live show we were joking about me drawing
• 1:05:35
  Kabal members and I've drawn 2 Kabal members so far and brought
• 1:05:40
  cards of those with me. So those two will have their own
• 1:05:42
  little unique card on them. I'm almost positive people know
• 1:05:46
  by the time this is released they'll have they'll have
• 1:05:48
  plastered them all over the cabal because they'll be so
• 1:05:50
  proud of them. They would be so proud they
• 1:05:53
  won't sell anything because they're just crying tears of
• 1:05:55
  joy. You know this amazing art piece
• 1:05:57
  that's been done off them? My stuff doesn't sell and
• 1:05:59
  everyone's talking about your bloody word shit document shit
• 1:06:06
  drawing. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 1:06:09
  Average so anyway. Averagely poor, not shit.
• 1:06:13
  Now, you did send me the two cabal members you've drawn.
• 1:06:16
  I did, yeah. And asked me each time to guess,
• 1:06:19
  and I guessed correctly both times, which they're pretty
• 1:06:22
  good. Some achievement.
• 1:06:24
  Because what you've basically done is you've made sure to
• 1:06:28
  accentuate the features that are identifiable.
• 1:06:30
  Basically every good cartoonist does.
• 1:06:32
  Yeah. So I I have to say I.
• 1:06:35
  I'm basically turning into a caricature office.
• 1:06:36
  This is what we're saying now. Yeah.
• 1:06:37
  I'm going to be like, you know, which is next year.
• 1:06:39
  Would you next year Allegiance con.
• 1:06:41
  Yeah, I would literally sat there with a like an easel,
• 1:06:43
  which I do and stuff to be. Evident.
• 1:06:44
  Oh, it's a Word document on the radio and.
• 1:06:48
  People in the queue. And the mouse.
• 1:06:51
  The mouse is not on a not on a hard table or a mouse pad.
• 1:06:54
  It's on a cushion. Yeah, like, really.
• 1:06:56
  Bad traction. On the floor of the con just.
• 1:07:01
  Constantly slipping and going off the page and there's all
• 1:07:04
  these weird Marks and say the patients like, well, I got to
• 1:07:07
  raise, leave them there. If people pay me $50 a time,
• 1:07:10
  I'll do it. Yeah.
• 1:07:12
  And and we could say that that it's Curtis and Noah, it is
• 1:07:15
  Curtis. And Noah, Yes, because it's one
• 1:07:17
  of them. It will be plastered.
• 1:07:18
  All over there. Exactly.
• 1:07:19
  Yeah. Probably.
• 1:07:20
  If you look at Curtis and Noah's Facebook profiles right now,
• 1:07:23
  they're. Probably, yeah.
• 1:07:25
  I bet any money that it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:31
  It's a bit sad, but I'm really quite proud of the Noah one
• 1:07:33
  because like that looks like Noah.
• 1:07:35
  I lied. You've captured.
• 1:07:37
  Something in his face. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:07:38
  Yeah, sure. Yeah, so sadness and
• 1:07:41
  disappointment, probably from pitch.
• 1:07:46
  I'm expecting a big reaction from the two of them and then in
• 1:07:48
  just to tear it up when I've walked away.
• 1:07:51
  Oh, I'm recording then, you know, we need to get that for
• 1:07:55
  for our Instagram story or whatever.
• 1:07:59
  Yeah. So that was the intern.
• 1:08:01
  Oh, we had Jim's tour as well, that.
• 1:08:02
  Yeah, that was super. I Yeah, very.
• 1:08:05
  Good. This was one of the it's
• 1:08:07
  definitely the highlight of the day for me apart from the Armory
• 1:08:11
  because and OK, the treadway sculptic.
• 1:08:13
  OK, it was all you know, I can't make fun.
• 1:08:16
  I'm all on this one. I'm on the end.
• 1:08:17
  Yeah, but. So it's middle, middle.
• 1:08:20
  Just to get just to get a guy that has done everything, he's
• 1:08:25
  pretty much at retirement age. Jim you wouldn't know it because
• 1:08:29
  he is a good looking, well kept. Man, he's a sprightly man.
• 1:08:35
  With beautiful hair and speaking to someone whose hairline has
• 1:08:39
  shockingly kind of gone backwards on his head in the
• 1:08:43
  last year. I don't know what's happening
• 1:08:45
  here and I'm not getting to your level yet, but I'm definitely
• 1:08:49
  dialing back. I'm definitely dialing back my
• 1:08:51
  jokes on on the podcast in regard to this subject because I
• 1:08:56
  think this is what's happened. I'm getting some karma.
• 1:08:59
  You guys saw the picture that I sent into the week when I was on
• 1:09:01
  holiday of my daughter. His hair dripped over my head.
• 1:09:03
  I'm changing that to my Facebook.
• 1:09:06
  And I actually had Turkey, I said to Mal actually this
• 1:09:10
  afternoon, I said I finally actually noticed your scar that.
• 1:09:14
  Yeah, it's a it's a good one. Isn't it?
• 1:09:16
  But it's quite well done, like it's quite, it's not.
• 1:09:20
  It's not ugly like when you show when you sent us the picture.
• 1:09:23
  Not as ugly as the front to your face.
• 1:09:24
  Exactly. No hope with that.
• 1:09:27
  It's not, it's not. It's not like the horror show
• 1:09:30
  you sent us when you had. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:32
  That we couldn't even publish because it's like, I won't
• 1:09:35
  expand. It's like I share that you see
• 1:09:37
  today, Oh, Nate strong and is I was chatting to them and I went
• 1:09:41
  to show them that picture and the two were like no.
• 1:09:43
  No. So don't show is that.
• 1:09:47
  Speaking of is so I was I was kind of in the when you're going
• 1:09:50
  around Jim's tour, you're kind of in a it's almost like a train
• 1:09:53
  of people and no, stop it, man. So you know because.
• 1:09:59
  Even sent. Lots of narrow corridors to kind
• 1:10:02
  of get up to places. So, so I was with is and I think
• 1:10:06
  Rich was in front and. Yeah, I was fairly close to you
• 1:10:09
  guys, yeah. As we were having a good bit of,
• 1:10:11
  you know, banter and slagging or whatever, you know, is is a lot
• 1:10:15
  of and, and he's done it 100 times before because he's kind
• 1:10:19
  of a Red Fred Studios. Yeah, has a has a tribute figure
• 1:10:24
  that. Many years ago in the cabinet at
• 1:10:26
  the front is Ramirez and. I sold one of those to David
• 1:10:30
  Williams last year, who then gifted it to his SO.
• 1:10:32
  Yeah, very cool. The circle you could have just
• 1:10:34
  cut out the middleman there and gifted it to is yourself.
• 1:10:37
  A grief now. The first bit of Jim's tour we
• 1:10:40
  got, we got to see where they're kind of doing a lot of the heavy
• 1:10:43
  work for Legions Khan, the statues and all that.
• 1:10:47
  Didn't see any statues or any teases.
• 1:10:49
  They actually were putting together the ox crew wave for
• 1:10:52
  the display cabinet and actually asked her still the prototypes
• 1:10:55
  and I'd seen them in the cabinet last year, but they were just on
• 1:10:59
  the table and you could go up within a couple of centimeters
• 1:11:01
  of them and really look at them like or Virus Green and it's
• 1:11:05
  just and paint haven't painted a lot of cosmic heads this year.
• 1:11:09
  I just love great and the armor on those.
• 1:11:13
  The space armor is fantastic. Potential of that space armor.
• 1:11:18
  It's it's yet another one that when you see it in person, Yeah,
• 1:11:21
  it the photo, with the utmost respect to Trevor, as good as
• 1:11:25
  these photos, you can't do it. Yeah, it doesn't capture just
• 1:11:29
  how good. It's not.
• 1:11:30
  It's not that the photos don't do justice.
• 1:11:31
  The voters do as much justice as they can.
• 1:11:34
  Yes, yeah. Yeah, they just.
• 1:11:36
  Your eyes are better. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:39
  And so and then he brought us all around the shop and it's
• 1:11:42
  just. I can't go through the whole
• 1:11:43
  thing because you should try and get the intern one day.
• 1:11:46
  If you're listening to this just even for Jim's tour, because
• 1:11:50
  it's just like it's we've we all have various jobs or we've had
• 1:11:56
  jobs over the years, you know, sitting in an office at a desk.
• 1:12:00
  There's some work going on here. There's people at desks like,
• 1:12:03
  you know, back in it's like back to the future.
• 1:12:05
  It looks in some parts, it looks like in the if you know, Harry
• 1:12:08
  Potter, the room of requirement seen in one of the last movies
• 1:12:11
  where like it's just all everything you need is that's
• 1:12:14
  why it's called the room requirement.
• 1:12:16
  This is like literally everything you need in the room.
• 1:12:18
  There's all sorts of stuff, and there was boxes labeled then at
• 1:12:21
  the end versus just like a handgun.
• 1:12:23
  These are all props. Yes, handguns, semi automatic
• 1:12:26
  piss. Yeah.
• 1:12:27
  And then is what's going on. This is just a Walmart shelf.
• 1:12:31
  I got annoyed at one point when there's a bottleneck and we
• 1:12:33
  stopped and we were right from the wig section.
• 1:12:35
  Come on, come on, I take a picture of that.
• 1:12:38
  Nah. Not with you in it though.
• 1:12:41
  I was joking with somebody the way it's set up because it's,
• 1:12:45
  it's a little bit dusty and it's very much an old warehouse.
• 1:12:48
  I mean, it would never pass health and safety in Europe.
• 1:12:49
  They'd close it down instantly. But a bit more relaxed here.
• 1:12:53
  But with all these old props and that sort of stuff.
• 1:12:55
  I said something, it's like, this is the sort of place you
• 1:12:56
  get chased through in a zombie movie.
• 1:12:58
  It's like, you know, and you're throwing old tellies out of them
• 1:13:01
  and they're sort of trying to say.
• 1:13:02
  I'll tell you. Oh, it's, I'd love to work there
• 1:13:05
  just like they. They had a tagging system where,
• 1:13:08
  you know, and it made me think of you and spreadsheets, to be
• 1:13:11
  honest, that they had to tag with a bar, a barcode on that
• 1:13:16
  had a number. So it told them they scanned it
• 1:13:19
  or went looking for it exactly where it would be in the
• 1:13:22
  warehouse. And it's like, I want to work
• 1:13:24
  here. That'd be so fun.
• 1:13:25
  Like getting a pick list for what you have to go and find.
• 1:13:29
  And I mean, it's like working at a shop, but much more fun stuff
• 1:13:32
  that you're that you find it. Yeah, it'd be so fun.
• 1:13:37
  But obviously I do have like that interesting movies and
• 1:13:39
  things. So seeing all that stuff, it's
• 1:13:42
  like, yeah, it's amazing. It's love it.
• 1:13:45
  I love it. And we've got this giant robot
• 1:13:49
  that cuts and shapes and Jim was showing us and it was, it was
• 1:13:53
  polystyrene, like really heavy set polystyrene.
• 1:13:55
  They're cut in this year, but last year they were doing wood.
• 1:13:58
  So this thing does everything is literally, you put it in there
• 1:14:00
  and it'll sculpt these massive sculptures out of anything at
• 1:14:03
  all. Really incredible thing.
• 1:14:07
  Yeah, absolutely. And wasn't there?
• 1:14:08
  Yeah, there was this. Is that the same machine that he
• 1:14:11
  said could if if if you didn't know how to operate it, you
• 1:14:15
  could actually destroy it? Destroy it.
• 1:14:16
  Yeah, it would just. It would just laser through
• 1:14:18
  itself. Oh, really?
• 1:14:19
  Yeah, Yeah, yeah. It's like the one has comes a
• 1:14:21
  foam as well, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:22
  So there has to be somebody starting to booth, basically
• 1:14:24
  monitoring. Here and inside the door, like
• 1:14:27
  about a meter inside the door, there's like a laser beam going
• 1:14:30
  across. And if you if you break that
• 1:14:31
  laser beam, the machine just cuts out like for safety.
• 1:14:35
  Yeah, yeah, it's like so dangerous.
• 1:14:37
  And, and behind the glass Pyrex, like if you've ever gone for an
• 1:14:41
  X-ray or an MRI scan, there's like someone with two big
• 1:14:43
  screens and like upgrading the machine, it's like that.
• 1:14:46
  Wow, it's like proper. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:48
  But this company, there's all the stuff for Saturday Night
• 1:14:50
  Live and all that, so it's really professional and really
• 1:14:53
  well done. And like, there's a lot of Apple
• 1:14:55
  TV shows like Severance, they did all the props.
• 1:14:57
  Yes. I think Severance was filmed
• 1:14:59
  quite close to Jersey somewhere in some old disused office
• 1:15:06
  complex or industrial estate. So yeah, but just an experience.
• 1:15:12
  And I had a great little chat with Jim afterwards because he
• 1:15:14
  was interested about like, oh, you came from, you know, he, he
• 1:15:17
  knows the show, you know, and he said, he said like, where do you
• 1:15:21
  come from? And then we got talking about
• 1:15:23
  that. And then just but the whole
• 1:15:25
  thing. And he's like, yeah, I'm just
• 1:15:26
  like, you know, if I think about it too much, you know, this guy
• 1:15:29
  from Luxembourg coming over here, these British guys are
• 1:15:32
  coming over here. And I'm like, yeah, he's like,
• 1:15:34
  it's, it's going pretty well for us.
• 1:15:38
  But there you go. Then part of that, and the
• 1:15:41
  reason that occurs is because they're doing things like intern
• 1:15:45
  for a day and yeah, how amazing that, you know, that's a.
• 1:15:48
  Full on thing for them, you know?
• 1:15:50
  Yeah, imagine the amount of organization went into it to
• 1:15:54
  run. It ran really smoothly.
• 1:15:56
  There was like it, you know, it's like trying to herd 100
• 1:16:00
  geese around the field, you know, for, you know.
• 1:16:02
  And they're also doing it at the very time they desperately
• 1:16:05
  trying to complete a major thing for G Com and at the same time
• 1:16:08
  not let you see any of it. And all the stuff's in there
• 1:16:10
  somewhere. Yeah.
• 1:16:11
  And they still managed to put it away.
• 1:16:12
  The big scene they do a really good job of hiding is those
• 1:16:16
  reversible walls that suddenly flip around as you walk through.
• 1:16:19
  And there's just, you know, Bill just painting and putting
• 1:16:22
  together figures. Actually, what he was doing
• 1:16:24
  prior to that was. Gluing to you.
• 1:16:27
  But John, you, you missed the best bit of the gym walkthrough.
• 1:16:29
  And that was when we saw what Bill Mccuso and Brad, not Brad.
• 1:16:34
  Brad. And they do all the dial work
• 1:16:36
  now for for Four Horsemen Studios.
• 1:16:39
  And, you know, we're recording this the night before Gcon, so I
• 1:16:41
  could be completely wrong. But they had what looked
• 1:16:44
  suspiciously like a lizard band temple that was up and ready.
• 1:16:48
  Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:50
  And. For Gcon and I was just like,
• 1:16:52
  open. Now there's like, Oh my
• 1:16:54
  goodness. Well, Aztec sort of style
• 1:16:56
  wouldn't be. Yeah.
• 1:16:57
  So which is exactly the issue. You have gotten to be all these
• 1:17:01
  men. Yeah.
• 1:17:01
  Yeah. Which is quite goth hammering
• 1:17:04
  style, isn't it? But that's what you like, isn't
• 1:17:07
  it? I mean, they.
• 1:17:08
  It's a cool. It's a theme for that.
• 1:17:10
  Yeah. Absolutely.
• 1:17:11
  Yeah. Well, and I can't.
• 1:17:13
  I think it was easy. He said it to me, but somebody
• 1:17:15
  said it to me. It's like the Chocolate Factory
• 1:17:18
  visiting the Chocolate Factory and and it is, I said it, I
• 1:17:21
  repeated that to Jeremy, like later in the day, asked me how
• 1:17:24
  it was going. I was like, it is, it's it's
• 1:17:26
  like visiting the Chocolate Factory in in Willy Wonka.
• 1:17:30
  Yeah. And I mean, he did then say
• 1:17:32
  that's what we need to do. We need to make we need to make
• 1:17:36
  chocolates. So then, so here you heard it
• 1:17:39
  here first, everyone. Was it MO to Joe was handing out
• 1:17:44
  these little plastic? Yes, Inter.
• 1:17:47
  For day colour changing, yeah. Yeah, I poured my Coke into it
• 1:17:51
  and the Coke was ice cold and it obviously chains on changes I
• 1:17:55
  didn't know was colour change. I started to go bright red and I
• 1:17:58
  thought I'd got cherry Coke or something.
• 1:18:00
  Yeah. And you know, I mean, I'm in a
• 1:18:01
  foreign land so I'm like, I don't know what like.
• 1:18:04
  And I usually drink the Coke out of the can here, so, you know.
• 1:18:08
  And then it was like, and it was just a glass because then when I
• 1:18:10
  put my hand on it, it starts to warm up and went away again.
• 1:18:13
  I was like, ah, dummy. Yeah, OK.
• 1:18:15
  It's all little things. It's like everybody got a bin
• 1:18:18
  turn. Yeah.
• 1:18:19
  I mean, they don't have to do that.
• 1:18:22
  And just talking about the sort of thing we were sat there, was
• 1:18:25
  it lunchtime or the end of the day?
• 1:18:27
  No, it was lunchtime, wasn't it? And everyone from the studio sat
• 1:18:31
  in there having their lunch as well, or not sat.
• 1:18:32
  They're busy, aren't they? They're doing a lot whilst
• 1:18:34
  trying to eat and do other things.
• 1:18:36
  And it is literally everyone, the owners, the marketing
• 1:18:41
  manager, Jeremy Gerard, everyone knows.
• 1:18:43
  But then people like Bill Mancuso were in there as well.
• 1:18:47
  Diego's in there, you know, just the sales side of things.
• 1:18:53
  Joe Vasapolo who does all sorts of stuff at the studio, all in
• 1:18:58
  there as well whilst people are eating.
• 1:18:59
  And it's like what other organization does this?
• 1:19:02
  They might have conferences and conventions, but they're not
• 1:19:06
  like sat there whilst sitting around, you know?
• 1:19:10
  Treated almost like family, yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:11
  And you're not obviously. And it's a business and we will
• 1:19:14
  get that. But they but they don't need to
• 1:19:16
  do intern. There's no no financial benefit
• 1:19:18
  for them doing it, but they just do it because they love doing.
• 1:19:21
  It but it also makes it all better you know and like various
• 1:19:26
  people will will experience it over the years.
• 1:19:29
  I I would love to do it again, yes, but I also would be just so
• 1:19:36
  happy for other people if they got.
• 1:19:37
  To do it, yeah, yeah. You know, I would, I would do it
• 1:19:40
  again in the scenario that there's enough space for us and
• 1:19:43
  the kind of most people that have got in cut in and.
• 1:19:45
  How I'm going to enter Wild Tree next year, yeah.
• 1:19:47
  The lottery is, is a thing, but you know, I, I want people, if
• 1:19:52
  they can't experience it, to get into, you know, because I'd love
• 1:19:55
  to talk to them about it. I'd love to, you know.
• 1:20:00
  Yeah, yeah. You don't want it to be like
• 1:20:02
  this exclusive club of people that have gotten to do it.
• 1:20:05
  You want everyone who wants to try and do it.
• 1:20:10
  Absolutely. When they, when they fall down.
• 1:20:12
  Yeah. When they called out the interns
• 1:20:14
  who'd paid to go along at the end of the day for the bust, I
• 1:20:19
  only recognised a couple of people.
• 1:20:20
  Yeah. So, you know, you know, it's a
• 1:20:22
  bigger circle of people when, you know, out of the 30 people
• 1:20:25
  they call up, you know, I know two of those, yes, it was great
• 1:20:28
  see new people getting that. Involved.
• 1:20:32
  That's it. And then we got our we got our
• 1:20:34
  orders and afterwards we got cookies.
• 1:20:38
  Oh. My God, they were loved.
• 1:20:40
  Those are good crazy cookies, yeah.
• 1:20:42
  We got another, another probably shouldn't have had a can of coke
• 1:20:46
  with the cookies. That was a little bit, but I
• 1:20:47
  kind of needed to pick me up. You know, that was the, you
• 1:20:50
  know, step date because it was roast roasted, not day.
• 1:20:52
  And in that room where the where the Armory was, there's a whole
• 1:20:56
  glass window on the side and the wind that sun was.
• 1:20:59
  Gone. Yeah.
• 1:21:01
  And I still have my hoodie on in the morning when we went in
• 1:21:04
  there first because it was, it was chilly outside.
• 1:21:07
  And after 5 minutes in there, somebody's like, how do you let
• 1:21:09
  that hoodie on? And I was like, yeah, you're
• 1:21:11
  probably right. Chilly outside, God.
• 1:21:14
  I mean chilly, like it was not cold, but it was like you could.
• 1:21:18
  You could. You are a hoodie on, Yeah.
• 1:21:20
  I'm a comfort. Creature, you know, So yeah,
• 1:21:21
  yeah. So.
• 1:21:25
  But no, truly amazing. I mean, obviously I did it last
• 1:21:27
  year, so there wasn't the deer in the headlight.
• 1:21:31
  Yeah, See, I've gone American, not rabbit in the headlight,
• 1:21:33
  Deer in the headlight moment for me this year.
• 1:21:35
  And I was able to take more in and I think that was really
• 1:21:38
  good. It was like, you know, some of
• 1:21:39
  the stuff was exactly the same as last year, but even Jim's
• 1:21:42
  toured it a couple of different bits to last year.
• 1:21:45
  And Trevor's thing was quite different to what he did last
• 1:21:48
  year. And, you know, I was just able
• 1:21:50
  to take in a bit more this year because I wasn't trying to.
• 1:21:52
  I've got to see everything. I've got to see everything
• 1:21:53
  because I know I'm going to focus in on the stuff.
• 1:21:55
  Oh yeah, yeah, I want to get to. Something Pap should have said
• 1:21:58
  when we started talking about it was, yeah, those 1st 2:00 rooms
• 1:22:01
  that you go into, it's a bit more inspiring, isn't?
• 1:22:04
  It and you know, Oh yeah, the the little entryway.
• 1:22:07
  And yeah, so you are kind of, there's so many things to look
• 1:22:11
  at. Yeah, because last year you go,
• 1:22:13
  you go through the entryway and there's the the, the things on
• 1:22:15
  each side. And then we turned towards where
• 1:22:18
  the food was and just on the right there was the full size
• 1:22:21
  bollock thigh car there. And everyone's like, Oh my God,
• 1:22:24
  I can't cope with this. It's just too much.
• 1:22:27
  Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's a point where you.
• 1:22:31
  Yeah, that's for after the podcast, but yeah, so.
• 1:22:36
  After that, then we basically got the lift back from Chris
• 1:22:41
  after we got all our stuff. Smallest order, last mile.
• 1:22:45
  Not quite last, but close. To the last of the.
• 1:22:47
  Four of us. Yeah, over.
• 1:22:48
  Yeah, over. Five of us in our little group,
• 1:22:50
  Yeah, yeah. And yeah.
• 1:22:52
  And then through Jersey traffic, which was grand.
• 1:22:56
  Lots of good chats. I mean, we had great chats,
• 1:22:57
  yeah. But it's really, yeah.
• 1:22:59
  Chris and Cat are great. Sort of, yeah.
• 1:23:01
  Good chats without. And they're really interested in
• 1:23:03
  where we're from. And obviously we're interested
• 1:23:05
  in. Yeah, you know.
• 1:23:08
  We're just those New Jersey roads that were an experience.
• 1:23:10
  Oh, man, yeah, it was why? What a legend.
• 1:23:13
  Because he just, he drove like a local.
• 1:23:15
  And to be honest, like I know, I know from doing a lot of driving
• 1:23:19
  that like it's not easy sometimes to just drive in
• 1:23:21
  place. You don't know He was zipping
• 1:23:23
  around? No problem, you know.
• 1:23:26
  And the best thing about all of it is there's even more to come.
• 1:23:31
  That's just day one. Just day one, tomorrow's G Con
• 1:23:34
  and they have like Jim was hyping it up for me.
• 1:23:37
  Jim is like the most level headed man, you know, Absolutely
• 1:23:40
  he is. He is literally, you know, keep
• 1:23:42
  it calm guys. You know, kind of you know, we
• 1:23:44
  got fun. We try to do this thing.
• 1:23:46
  Yeah. You know, he's like you guys
• 1:23:47
  won't know what you're saying. You don't know what I've hit you
• 1:23:51
  all the. Yes.
• 1:23:52
  He was just like, we've never revealed this much stuff before.
• 1:23:55
  And you're like, Oh my God. Oh my God.
• 1:23:57
  Yeah, yeah. So the next time you hear from
• 1:24:00
  us, whether it be on an addendum to this episode or whether we'll
• 1:24:04
  do do kind of follow up or whatever it will be after the
• 1:24:09
  reveals. Oh yeah, we'll we'll do all
• 1:24:13
  that. I don't know if we'll do like we
• 1:24:15
  did last year with the boys and do a live, but even if we can't,
• 1:24:19
  we'll do a record something, a reaction.
• 1:24:23
  I'm going to try and do a lot of little small interviews with
• 1:24:27
  people at the Common. Yeah, I want to do some of those
• 1:24:30
  stingers of you know. Hi, I'm Eric Treadway.
• 1:24:34
  And you're listening to three-year?
• 1:24:35
  Relations, but you gotta get. It'll be amazing.
• 1:24:38
  Oh, well, I've broken the ice with Jim now they're a little
• 1:24:40
  chat that, you know, I think he, he'll entertain my bullshit now,
• 1:24:44
  you know, I didn't want to put it in his face, you know,
• 1:24:46
  Studio. That would have seemed rude, you
• 1:24:48
  know? Yeah.
• 1:24:49
  And I'd like to apologise in advance because if they show a
• 1:24:51
  lizard man tomorrow at the reveal, there's a good chance
• 1:24:53
  I'll be drunk. You'll be I'll be insufferable
• 1:24:55
  and I'll be drunk. He was, yeah, absolutely,
• 1:25:03
  absolutely incredible. So I don't know.
• 1:25:07
  We'll see what happens. Yeah, it's.
• 1:25:10
  So. Exciting.
• 1:25:11
  It's so exciting. It's like, you know, GCON is
• 1:25:13
  always great, but this year is going to be insane.
• 1:25:15
  And then there's still the whole 2 days of allegiance on left.
• 1:25:18
  You know what, maybe just take acknowledge this to actually all
• 1:25:22
  four, three of us just be together in the same place.
• 1:25:25
  Yeah. And actually in the same room.
• 1:25:26
  Yeah, yeah. That's awesome.
• 1:25:28
  This morning, like Mal was such like this a nice man is he woke
• 1:25:32
  up early. He tuned out of the room like a
• 1:25:34
  mess because I was kind of half wake so that he didn't disturb
• 1:25:37
  you, especially Rich because you hadn't kind of thing.
• 1:25:40
  And then I kind of an hour later decided, yeah, I need to get
• 1:25:43
  vertical and kind of go around about about almost 7:00 AM.
• 1:25:47
  So then I got out of the room. And then by the time we got back
• 1:25:50
  up before 8, you were kind of in the shower and.
• 1:25:52
  I was singing my heart, you know, wasn't.
• 1:25:55
  I had left my toiletry bag in the in the with my old man pills
• 1:26:01
  in the in the bathroom and I was like, no, I can't go in and get
• 1:26:06
  the the first time I see rich because I was asleep when he
• 1:26:08
  arrived last night. I can't see him book naked in
• 1:26:10
  the shower. So, you know, rubbing.
• 1:26:13
  Rubbing his ass on the shower and then he.
• 1:26:14
  Scream And then he came out with the towel around him and I was
• 1:26:17
  like, Rich, I want to give you a hug, but let's wait till you're
• 1:26:19
  dressed. In my defence, I was wearing
• 1:26:21
  shorts. Oh, it was shorts, Yeah.
• 1:26:23
  It was shorts, Yeah. No, I had.
• 1:26:24
  Made those shorts I had made a lot of high rich.
• 1:26:26
  I'm here. I'm here.
• 1:26:27
  Hi. How are you?
• 1:26:28
  Great to see you. Before he came out so that,
• 1:26:31
  yeah, he wasn't coming out swinging and dangling, you know?
• 1:26:35
  Meanwhile I rushed back to try and see him naked and I was
• 1:26:38
  sorry. There's three days left, dude.
• 1:26:40
  It was brilliant. I keep we.
• 1:26:42
  Keep you we keep you posted on people watching.
• 1:26:46
  All right, guys, I think it's time to to get ready for the
• 1:26:49
  evenings shenanigans. Yeah, there are people who want
• 1:26:52
  to see us, are there? I won't go that far.
• 1:26:55
  There's people downstairs. There's Pete Mccratch.
• 1:26:58
  Where the hell are you guys? Trying to make it sound popular.
• 1:27:02
  All right, we're going to Pete. Enough of that.
• 1:27:04
  Cheers everybody. This is Chris James, and you're
• 1:27:07
  listening to the Euro Legions podcast.
• 1:27:12
  It's the morning of Legions call.
• 1:27:13
  I'm here at Richard Jones. There's a room where we might
• 1:27:16
  get a snake man. What do you think?
• 1:27:19
  If we do, yeah, Celebi, we're not that bothered.
• 1:27:21
  It's lizards you're after, right?
• 1:27:24
  No, it's still good. If it's a snake, I will be so
• 1:27:26
  excited. It'll be just ridiculous.
• 1:27:28
  I'm expecting it and we're running around squealing,
• 1:27:31
  pushing old women and kids out of the way to get first to the
• 1:27:33
  queue. It's going to be mayhem.
• 1:27:36
  Yeah. And you know, I suppose I'm
• 1:27:38
  going to be telling people that if they do manage to get in the
• 1:27:40
  queue, get to come to our table, sell.
• 1:27:42
  Won't get your money back by selling wonder.
• 1:27:44
  Rich Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically, you know, you want to
• 1:27:47
  throw on the tables, go and get me a snake, man.
• 1:27:49
  Bring it back. We'll swap.
• 1:27:50
  All good all. Right.
• 1:27:52
  Well, further. Updates when it happens, and if
• 1:27:55
  it doesn't happen, you'll never hear this.
• 1:27:57
  This is the amazing and you're listening to your Allegiance
• 1:28:00
  podcast. Be good, do good, drink your
• 1:28:02
  water later. We're back, we're on the con
• 1:28:05
  floor and there's a bloody snake man on the courseman table.
• 1:28:10
  Yeah, I've just, I've been basically unconscious on the
• 1:28:12
  floor for the last hour. It's so good.
• 1:28:16
  Well, but while it's just sobbing in advance for.
• 1:28:18
  Later it is there's. Going to be a lot of snake men
• 1:28:20
  travelling back to the UK it has to be said.
• 1:28:22
  And the legend Brett already dropped one over.
• 1:28:25
  He did. He was pretty much first in the
• 1:28:26
  queue because he's one of these lunatics that queues up at 4:00
• 1:28:28
  AM to to get, yeah, she just brought one over, just gave it
• 1:28:31
  to me. And the man is just a legend.
• 1:28:32
  Payment. Didn't ask payment.
• 1:28:33
  Oh man, he's a legend. So yeah.
• 1:28:36
  And yeah, it's pretty steady this morning that the line for
• 1:28:39
  the Horsemen is insane, which is affecting the flow here, but
• 1:28:42
  it's flowing a bit now again. So hopefully we get a few more
• 1:28:45
  sales and keep, you know, need to replenish the funds for those
• 1:28:49
  snakes. Exactly.
• 1:28:50
  Yeah, they don't buy themselves. And for more stuff to paint for
• 1:28:53
  next year. But I need to sell a bit more so
• 1:28:55
  that I'm actually have the motivation to paint some more.
• 1:29:00
  You're doing OK, dude. You're doing OK.
• 1:29:02
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:29:03
  Well. Let's see how it goes for the
• 1:29:05
  rest of. The day.
• 1:29:05
  Oh yeah. This is your bro Joe, and you're
• 1:29:09
  listening to the Euro Legions Podcast.
• 1:29:13
  So, Noah, how's today been? Today has been pretty great,
• 1:29:16
  John, how about you? Yeah, day one legions come in
• 1:29:18
  the books. I don't think of any feet left,
• 1:29:20
  but you know. Yeah, I, I started the day with,
• 1:29:24
  with two feet and now I don't have any.
• 1:29:26
  So I, I feel like I could, I, I could be like a three foot
• 1:29:31
  dragon if I had two more, three more feet.
• 1:29:34
  Yeah, you've, you used to have feet, now you have a seat.
• 1:29:36
  Yeah, Rich had to go up for 20 minutes because he got swollen
• 1:29:39
  cankles. Oh no, had to go up and lie
• 1:29:41
  down. Is he playing with the snake
• 1:29:43
  man? Is that what he's?
• 1:29:45
  Accumulating them. Brett Stoddard brought him one
• 1:29:48
  this morning. You know, because Brett is a
• 1:29:50
  legend. And yeah, Rich has been in once
• 1:29:52
  or twice since. You know what not enough people
• 1:29:55
  talk about Brett Starter's generosity.
• 1:29:58
  Yeah, there's a lot of generosity in this room, let's
• 1:29:59
  be honest. He's a good man.
• 1:30:02
  He's a good man. So what's the plan for tomorrow?
• 1:30:04
  Tomorrow I am going to I, I, I've, I've sold through a a
• 1:30:09
  large portion of what I brought tomorrow.
• 1:30:12
  And humble brag. Everything, it just means that I
• 1:30:15
  didn't bring very, I didn't bring very much, but so
• 1:30:20
  everything that I have is is going to be on the table and
• 1:30:23
  yeah, it's just going to be what it is.
• 1:30:25
  Awesome. We're going to have fun
• 1:30:26
  tomorrow. Today was more like I was the
• 1:30:28
  the big rush, what I was expecting.
• 1:30:30
  And then tomorrow I'm, I'm hoping that things are, yeah,
• 1:30:32
  more chill and relax and we can focus on just talking to people.
• 1:30:36
  Yeah, I need to get around to the other vendors tables.
• 1:30:38
  I mean, I've, I've been to a few like people that had a couple
• 1:30:42
  pins and stuff, Eric's pins, stuff like that, you know, the
• 1:30:46
  Trevor's calendar, that kind of stuff, stuff you just want to
• 1:30:48
  get. But yeah, yeah, I just want to
• 1:30:50
  go around and see what the vendors have and restock my 2D
• 1:30:54
  parts collection for next year. Likewise, Yeah.
• 1:30:58
  And Speaking of that, it was funny because as I was getting
• 1:31:00
  ready this year, like just, you know, last week or whatever, I,
• 1:31:05
  I was looking, looking for some pins that I had that I had
• 1:31:08
  bought last year and I found like a like a horde of 3D
• 1:31:12
  printed parts that I had must have stashed and, and didn't.
• 1:31:15
  Nice, yeah. So I was, I was like, oh, well,
• 1:31:18
  I guess I could paint those. That's sweet.
• 1:31:22
  Yeah, it's pretty cool. So are you going to the my wife
• 1:31:24
  is going to kill me show? Yes, but I think I'm going to,
• 1:31:26
  I'm going to try to squeeze in a little nap maybe.
• 1:31:29
  Before me too. Maybe in the shower.
• 1:31:31
  Yeah, Wash off the con. That's a good call, all right.
• 1:31:35
  Let's catch up tomorrow. All right, John.
• 1:31:37
  Cheers, buddy. Thanks buddy.
• 1:31:45
  In the Year of the Dwarf. So Rich Sunday at Legions Con.
• 1:31:50
  I'm knackered, well and truly shattered, but.
• 1:31:54
  You know it's. It's east off a little bit now,
• 1:31:56
  but this morning was fairly busy.
• 1:31:57
  Yeah, did some good sales. Somebody took an Atlas off my
• 1:32:02
  hands, so I'll be forever grateful to that man.
• 1:32:05
  Get that piece of filth out of my collection.
• 1:32:07
  So that was grand. I like it and we still haven't
• 1:32:11
  got the person to come and get the bear yet.
• 1:32:13
  No, that's coming home with me at this rate.
• 1:32:16
  I don't have room in my case and that don't you do.
• 1:32:19
  To be honest, the guy that bought Atlas off me was looking
• 1:32:21
  to buy it. So if we if the person doesn't
• 1:32:24
  come and collect it, then we, yeah.
• 1:32:26
  Yeah. We have to redraw, though, to be
• 1:32:28
  fair to everybody else. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:32:30
  Yeah. Point where we have to just
• 1:32:31
  start drawing cards until it hits.
• 1:32:35
  Yeah, that's hard to get more traffic to the table.
• 1:32:37
  But yeah, we'll see after. But a Sunday seems a little bit
• 1:32:40
  quieter this year. And I mean, I've been walking
• 1:32:42
  around, don't know it. Definitely much quieter than
• 1:32:46
  last year. Yeah, I mean, last year it was
• 1:32:48
  quietish for the vendors, but horsemen were busy.
• 1:32:50
  But now here's more quiet as well, so.
• 1:32:53
  Here's Greg. Who are you dressed up as, Greg?
• 1:32:56
  I'm the Lord of the Armory. Oh nice, is that a new title?
• 1:33:00
  Or. It's a very new title, right?
• 1:33:01
  For starting today. OK, when I got crowned with my
• 1:33:06
  Armory crown. Nice.
• 1:33:07
  It's a nice paper crown and a very cool Cape with the capus.
• 1:33:12
  Wow, it's got the swords or the horseman logo on the back like
• 1:33:16
  the one from Echidon. Awesome.
• 1:33:19
  So yeah, are you finding it quieter today?
• 1:33:23
  Much quieter. Yeah, I'm able to.
• 1:33:26
  Remember to mingle. Come out and spend some more
• 1:33:28
  money. Yeah.
• 1:33:28
  Yeah, I still managed to spend more than I thought I would
• 1:33:31
  being trapped in the Armory. Yeah.
• 1:33:34
  So I'm kind of glad I was there. Was did you manage to get a few
• 1:33:37
  figs? From the Armory for yourself?
• 1:33:38
  No, no. I had somebody buy me something
• 1:33:41
  because things were selling out really quick.
• 1:33:44
  Yeah, that black leather. Is the black leather, I missed
• 1:33:46
  the last one, Yeah. And then a green.
• 1:33:49
  The green leather was a second. And I managed to have somebody
• 1:33:52
  grab a set for me. Holy smokes.
• 1:33:54
  Because I didn't want to miss out on that.
• 1:33:55
  Yeah, I got the green one, but I missed the black and I went back
• 1:33:58
  yesterday. Gone and the vendor.
• 1:34:00
  Went quick. Gone.
• 1:34:01
  Yeah, I thought they were. I thought they were joking with
• 1:34:04
  me because I've been going on and on about it, but actually
• 1:34:06
  it's probably half my fault for telling everybody to go and get
• 1:34:09
  one. But here we are, you know?
• 1:34:12
  You know, but everyone was. Talking How's the show for you
• 1:34:14
  guys? It's good.
• 1:34:15
  Yeah, it's been kind of ups and downs, but yeah, things have a
• 1:34:18
  lot of things have sold, been steady yesterday.
• 1:34:22
  Today it's been more kind of bursts.
• 1:34:23
  Yeah, I wonder if this wigs thing took a lot of people
• 1:34:26
  upstairs and now they're going to come back.
• 1:34:28
  That's also. That's also.
• 1:34:29
  OK. Yeah, for sure, but.
• 1:34:32
  Guys. How would you rate this legions
• 1:34:34
  Khan overall? I mean, this is top, top.
• 1:34:37
  Not so far. It's gonna be hard to top this
• 1:34:38
  one. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:34:40
  But I think with the Armory and everything, this is an awesome
• 1:34:43
  experience. The store, the way the setup and
• 1:34:45
  everything was the definitely created a whole new experience.
• 1:34:48
  So and it went off like we've butter.
• 1:34:50
  The everything was smooth. Everything was smooth.
• 1:34:52
  I mean, we got great people working.
• 1:34:54
  Yeah, well, that's true. You were going on that, but as
• 1:34:57
  well they had a little test run an intern for that was that was
• 1:35:00
  good. That was good.
• 1:35:01
  That was a good way to see how it runs, tweak a couple little
• 1:35:04
  things, yeah. But I think going forward, we're
• 1:35:06
  going to is going to be even more smoother going forward.
• 1:35:09
  Yeah, exactly. And Joe was even saying that
• 1:35:11
  they'd like to build out a little bit the like the canopy
• 1:35:14
  and make it look like yeah, like medieval and stuff and stuff
• 1:35:18
  like that. So yeah.
• 1:35:20
  You know, I think it's going to be a lot of fun.
• 1:35:22
  Absolutely. I think, I think it's something
• 1:35:23
  that's probably going to become a thing in the future and future
• 1:35:27
  shows. I think so, yeah.
• 1:35:28
  I think how popular, how well it went, Yeah, I don't see it going
• 1:35:32
  away. Yeah, I think this is going to
• 1:35:34
  be something we're going to be doing from now.
• 1:35:35
  On and get that factory going on the black leather parts again,
• 1:35:38
  yeah. Well, I know that the chess
• 1:35:40
  piece is going to come out again.
• 1:35:41
  Oh, is it? Yeah.
• 1:35:42
  Yeah, and and the release. Oh, is it?
• 1:35:45
  Oh, it's just the cloth arms the.
• 1:35:46
  Cloth arms, that's the one you're not going to get.
• 1:35:48
  But even the chest? That's good then, because cloth
• 1:35:50
  arms, you could get it from a valic or something like that,
• 1:35:53
  you know, Or even wouldn't be too hard to paint a cloth arms
• 1:35:56
  black. Well, that's the good thing
• 1:35:57
  about this community. There's a lot of customizers
• 1:36:00
  that could change whatever color you need.
• 1:36:02
  So make it happen, you know. Totally.
• 1:36:05
  Well, thanks, Greg. Great to chat.
• 1:36:06
  Thank you. See you soon, hopefully you guys
• 1:36:09
  stop by then before you head. Out.
• 1:36:10
  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we that's.
• 1:36:12
  What we're gonna try and do, we're here all day tomorrow.
• 1:36:14
  See you around. Oh yeah.
• 1:36:15
  So tomorrow, what are you guys flying out?
• 1:36:16
  7:00 PM for me. Tomorrow, yeah.
• 1:36:19
  Oh, you guys fly at different times 6.
• 1:36:20
  PM for me. Oh, so it's like an hour
• 1:36:23
  different. Yeah.
• 1:36:24
  So well, if you guys want to stop by and before you headed to
• 1:36:27
  the airport same way that we did last year, we'll.
• 1:36:30
  Be in touch. We'll be in touch.
• 1:36:32
  Keep in touch. Yeah, Let me know ahead some.
• 1:36:33
  I'll grab a few here for us. Are you?
• 1:36:34
  Here tonight for a few drinks. I'm gonna hang out tonight for a
• 1:36:37
  while. Cool.
• 1:36:37
  I'm I'm gonna shoot to the house real quick.
• 1:36:39
  I got to grab a skeleton for Matt to do a the patina Prince.
• 1:36:45
  Nice. And yeah, and then I'll come
• 1:36:47
  back and hang out. I took off tomorrow so I might
• 1:36:52
  even call out Tuesday because my boss can't hear this show.
• 1:36:57
  Love it. Oh, man, it's showing that Greg,
• 1:37:00
  he's he's TT800 custom. Pretty sweet.
• 1:37:06
  I love this. Yeah, it's really nice, really,
• 1:37:09
  really nice. And have you had many comments
• 1:37:12
  about that now? So I'll start.
• 1:37:14
  So I've had a few, everyone who's seen it's a bit really,
• 1:37:17
  really impressed with it. I think.
• 1:37:18
  I think people like the effects and the I've managed to do a bit
• 1:37:22
  of a glow and I've had comments on how well the glows work.
• 1:37:24
  So yeah. It's nice.
• 1:37:26
  And how are the feet today? It's not well.
• 1:37:30
  I keep saying it's not so much the feet, but I think it is the
• 1:37:33
  feet. Basically ankles is where I'm
• 1:37:35
  feeling it most, like lower ankle sort of thing.
• 1:37:38
  If I sit down, they're fine. The minute I'm stood up for like
• 1:37:41
  any length of time, that's starting to hurt a bit.
• 1:37:44
  Yeah, for me, it's if I sit down, I probably won't be able
• 1:37:47
  to get back up. So I'm just kind of go one leg
• 1:37:49
  to the other. Yeah, I've been around now.
• 1:37:52
  Just now to the horsemen. It's completely empty in there
• 1:37:56
  now. They didn't have the snake man
• 1:37:57
  anymore. So what's this, 1256 on Sunday?
• 1:38:01
  So Rich was in an hour before me.
• 1:38:04
  He said there was a good few there, so maybe they're just
• 1:38:06
  going to restock the table. We'll take another one later.
• 1:38:09
  But yeah, be interesting. That could be him, but we've got
• 1:38:12
  a couple, so, you know, we're doing OK.
• 1:38:15
  Rich got more than a couple. Oh, well, I mean, you can
• 1:38:18
  understand Rich getting a bunch because it's obviously what he's
• 1:38:20
  been waiting for. I got 4 and that's probably all
• 1:38:24
  I really need. Yeah, they've said they'll go up
• 1:38:27
  online like the Palliant Knights did, so there's an opportunity
• 1:38:32
  then, but there'll be other stuff out by then, so.
• 1:38:36
  And they don't have any, they don't have any exclusive pieces
• 1:38:40
  that could, you know, compared to when they go up online, it's
• 1:38:42
  like the Valley and the same figure, so.
• 1:38:44
  Yeah, yeah. So all right, you'll see then
• 1:38:47
  we. Should see.
• 1:38:48
  Absolutely, yeah. What's the plan for later?
• 1:38:51
  Sit down, probably have a beer, chill out, have a beer, chill
• 1:38:56
  out. It's not.
• 1:38:57
  So it's not such a need to get up tomorrow morning, although we
• 1:39:01
  do have to get up and pack. But we can have a bit of a lion
• 1:39:04
  so we can try and stay up a bit late tonight maybe and yeah,
• 1:39:07
  should be fun. Not hopefully.
• 1:39:09
  It's been so busy and I think we've all been suffering with a
• 1:39:12
  bit of the jet lag ever. Yeah.
• 1:39:13
  But we have an obvious stair sometimes for the very dry
• 1:39:18
  sinus. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:39:20
  So possibly not done the socializing that we have done
• 1:39:22
  previous years. So try and do a bit more of that
• 1:39:25
  tonight. I mean, we have been
• 1:39:26
  socializing, but. Yes, yes.
• 1:39:28
  Not, not heavy. Yeah, yeah, heavy farting.
• 1:39:30
  Yeah, well, not my wife. 'S gonna kill me Shaw.
• 1:39:32
  Last night was funny. Yes, very funny.
• 1:39:35
  Very. Good.
• 1:39:35
  Oh man, Kyle was. He was in Scrotton, Yeah, so.
• 1:39:38
  Funny at the start there. And all of them, of course,
• 1:39:41
  yeah, they did a family Fortunes.
• 1:39:44
  So Family Feud in America, that kind of format with the survey.
• 1:39:48
  And they had a couples teams and it was girls against boys.
• 1:39:52
  So a lot of fun. It's.
• 1:39:55
  Been fun teasing a couple of the guys because spoilers here.
• 1:39:59
  In fact, you haven't heard that show.
• 1:40:00
  The guys lost. So yeah.
• 1:40:03
  The ladies have been definitely rubbing it in this morning and
• 1:40:05
  not in the way that their boys would like to be rubbed in.
• 1:40:07
  Both definitely and rich. Come here to me.
• 1:40:10
  And what's the count on the snake men?
• 1:40:13
  Now be honest. 6/6, right. So fairly restrained for me,
• 1:40:17
  yeah. But I mean, you did your one
• 1:40:19
  purse, so you've had to do a lot of laps.
• 1:40:20
  And they put. Them on general sale next year
• 1:40:23
  anyway, so probably a few more probably I'm just.
• 1:40:25
  Saying that they're not there anymore, so I might do one peek
• 1:40:28
  in later to get one more. Yeah, I want one.
• 1:40:31
  I want one for my kid, but I'll give him one of the three I
• 1:40:34
  have. I have 3, so I'll give him one
• 1:40:37
  of those. But if I had an extra 1 then I
• 1:40:38
  could do a bit with it. Well, I'm currently debating
• 1:40:41
  around the Armoury experience one more time.
• 1:40:42
  I was, yeah. Think we might believe this?
• 1:40:44
  Oh, don't put that in my head. There's no cue straight in.
• 1:40:48
  Yeah, you have to get a ticket off Sherry, and that's great.
• 1:40:51
  Then you get to talk to Sherry. Exactly.
• 1:40:53
  Yeah. You know, so it's a win.
• 1:40:55
  It's a win and it's a win. Oh man, what are we going to do?
• 1:40:59
  We've had a good time. We're going to come back next
• 1:41:01
  year. Oh, 100% of an incredible sort.
• 1:41:03
  Yeah, it's been absolutely amazing.
• 1:41:05
  Yeah. And I'm still going to come on
• 1:41:06
  the Wednesday, even if we don't even.
• 1:41:08
  Get into it or anything 100% yeah, I was thinking might.
• 1:41:11
  Finally, take a trip into New York.
• 1:41:15
  In some ways, the X-ray without anything to do might be a good
• 1:41:18
  thing to get into, you know, a bit of a more relaxed into it
• 1:41:22
  because we're kind of. Adjustment as well, yeah.
• 1:41:24
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. We kind of just the very next
• 1:41:28
  day after we arrived, it was up and on with things, wasn't it?
• 1:41:30
  It was it's been all go since we got here and then.
• 1:41:34
  Although a word of warning, I was speaking to two Brits who
• 1:41:36
  were here earlier, they on holiday in New York come over to
• 1:41:39
  this as well and the day before, well the Thursday.
• 1:41:43
  So come over on the Friday for Legions Con.
• 1:41:45
  They've done 45,000 steps going around the various sites in New
• 1:41:50
  York on that seems like it's in New York.
• 1:41:51
  I'm not doing that. No, I'll be, I'll be just going
• 1:41:54
  one tourist attraction. I heard that, was it the skyline
• 1:41:57
  or something? What is it?
• 1:41:59
  There's something where you're up really high.
• 1:42:00
  Oh yeah, yeah. Is that when you're on glass?
• 1:42:02
  Yeah, yeah, that I'm terrible with heights, but I like to
• 1:42:05
  challenge myself. So that would be maybe the one
• 1:42:08
  thing our top of the Empire State Building and that would be
• 1:42:10
  cool as a But yeah, if you're doing all those steps and then
• 1:42:13
  you had to do what we've all the standing and hobbling around
• 1:42:17
  we've had to do this weekend. And I mean, we sound like awful
• 1:42:19
  old man, but that we kind of are, you know, we.
• 1:42:21
  Are awful old man. Yeah, and the old American
• 1:42:24
  toilets again. There is nothing that will make
• 1:42:31
  things you want out of your body suck right back up into your
• 1:42:34
  body is sitting down and realizing you can see up to
• 1:42:37
  people's knees as they walk past.
• 1:42:41
  Yeah, but even in the one in the hotel room, it's, you know, they
• 1:42:43
  have water up to like halfway up to sit the the the bowl and it's
• 1:42:49
  just, it's not a pleasant experience it.
• 1:42:50
  Really isn't. No, no.
• 1:42:52
  And there's no toilet brush, So what are you supposed to do?
• 1:42:56
  Yeah. Yeah, You shared a room with two
• 1:43:00
  of the guys. It's like, flush, put some paper
• 1:43:03
  down, leave it a bit, flush and then flush again and run.
• 1:43:07
  Yeah. And hope that you weren't the
• 1:43:08
  one seen coming out of the toilet.
• 1:43:10
  Yeah. Oh, my goodness.
• 1:43:12
  Yeah. It's tough life.
• 1:43:14
  It's tough life. Someone's got to do it.
• 1:43:16
  Yeah, right. We have to find the person that
• 1:43:18
  won the bear to sell a few more things.
• 1:43:21
  I get a few more. I need to go to Borderland Horde
• 1:43:23
  and get a few. Want us down?
• 1:43:27
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 1:43:28
  Lots of people asked for the T-shirts.
• 1:43:30
  We found a good few of them, but some people just kind of ducked
• 1:43:34
  us. So, yeah, they'll probably come
• 1:43:37
  at the end now and say where's my T-shirt?
• 1:43:38
  And then, well, sorry, buddy. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:43:43
  All right, let's get back to it. This is Stefan Delator, deep to
• 1:43:48
  our Customs, and you're listening to the Your Allegiance
• 1:43:50
  podcast. Hey, Rowan, all the way from
• 1:43:53
  where? Australia.
• 1:43:54
  Sydney, Australia. And how crazy are you to come to
• 1:43:58
  here just for this? It is just for this, and it's
• 1:44:01
  not crazy at all. It's absolutely worth it.
• 1:44:05
  Very good. And have you listened to our
• 1:44:07
  show? Plenty of times, Yep.
• 1:44:10
  Now it's another thing. I just have it on in the
• 1:44:12
  background whilst working and it keeps you very entertained, so
• 1:44:14
  that's fantastic. Awesome.
• 1:44:17
  There you go. So we're we're we're spanning
• 1:44:18
  the globe here. We have, we're in America.
• 1:44:20
  We have an Aussie guy at the the table and a listener to the show
• 1:44:25
  rowing and we're from Europe so we've got the full circuit
• 1:44:29
  covered. Stay safe.
• 1:45:14
  The.