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Your Hair Is an Antenna: Ceremony & Hair Alchemy with Hair Priestess Jade Atia · Becoming Flame: Where Sensuality, Sovereignty, and Sacred Power Ignite

• Jade Atia: your hair is your extension to your soul and it's it's on your crown, so it's like an antenna. it holds so much wisdom, depending on how long it is, it holds the stories, it holds so much energetically in the hair. that's why in ancient tribes, having hair ceremonies was a natural way of being in communities, to actually really honour this rite of passage it's your physical representation of your aura Kait Tregenza: Welcome back to another episode of Becoming Flame. Today I'm sitting down with Jade Atia. She is the founder of Shekina Temple, Crown Alchemy, and Nishima Wellness Collective in Brisbane, Australia. Jade has spent over 25 years behind the hairdressing chair. But everything changed for her after the birth of her third child, when a breakdown became her initiation into a completely different way. Of working, being existing. She's since trained with the Temple of KA Sacred Feminine Mystery School in Greece, and she holds hair as an energetic exchange, a ceremony, a transformation, not a transaction. We get into why she thinks the hairdressing industry is burnt out and obsessed with outcome over experiences. What shifted for her when her mother died and closed out nine generations of suppression in her female line. I have practiced this introduction, and yet in saying that, my entire body is covered in goosebumps, and I am shivering. I am, it feels so alive to talk to Jade Atia: Mm-hmm. Kait Tregenza: you about this. But mmm. I wanna talk to her as well about why she believes a haircut can be a genuine rite of passage. Ugh, this this conversation already feels so alive that I'm not even gonna finish your introduction. I'm just gonna welcome you. Jade, welcome to the podcast. I wanna get straight into it with you. You bring some very magical energy to to this space and to this conversation. So welcome. Jade Atia: Thank you so much, Kate. I'm so honored to be here. I'm literally crying as well. Just Kait Tregenza: Well let's just let's just follow where the energy has asked us to go and tell me about this the death of your mother. Jade Atia: Mm-hmm. Kait Tregenza: Tell me that story if if that feels okay for you. Jade Atia: Mm. I've been a hairdresser for twenty five years, been in this industry. and being a visionary is always being a big part of part of part of my gifts is visionary in the future. Kait Tregenza: Mm-hmm. Jade Atia: after my second baby was born, this is eight years ago, I had a vision that my hair salon, my little hair salon at my home is gonna be a part of this wellness space. so I kept that vision alive and COVID happened. and then we came into a situation where we had the opportunity to have a space a two-space, commercial building, so I could have my salon in one part and then have this vision of having a wellness space next door. And when spirit always gives me a little vision, it's always like you don't know the full picture, right? It's always like the journey to get there and the initiation that comes with it. but it was just a vision, that my salon was going to be a part of this bigger, wellness center. 2022 we completed the project. my husband built with his hands Created the temple that I'm in right now, which is the salon space, and also next door, worked really hard. he did there was five renovations in a matter of two and a half years, and then we just had our third baby in amongst all of that. So my nervous system was quite fried, I'd always say yes and, someone who was a people pleaser and I'd be like, Yep, yep, I can take this on, I can take this on, I can take this on. And just when we just finished completing the wellness center, which is called Neshima, which means breathe in Hebrew, I was not breathing. Kait Tregenza: Mm-hmm. Jade Atia: ironically that's what we called the wellness space and I had to learn to breathe. Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: so that was really interesting. And we'd just finished and I had a big a part of who was a part of my salon at the time who was managing why I had a baby step out unexpectedly and it kind of put, pressure of me having to jump back in really quickly. I had a one year old, my third was one, also two children before that. And things have happened before in the salon where I've had to like jump in and, save the day. and this was just another one of those moments. But my nervous system was actually really, at capacity at this stage and Little did I know, two days after that all happened, I actually collapsed and I couldn't actually breathe and I had a nervous breakdown. and that nervous breakdown was it was definitely the pinnacle moment of when I realized like what the f did I just create? I'd actually had no idea why I created this wellness. space. I had the vision, but I was like I wasn't really there yet. I wasn't really embodied in in the vision. And it took a while. It took a good, year or so to like build up my capacity and just slowly get back into the space. and in that time I was, having mentorship or I was having with a like a counsellor like a holistic counselor which is business and that was really helping me and then it got it got to a certain point where I was sort of starting to deepen go more deeper into my into into myself into my spiritual practices and really started to like go deep into the my shadows and into the void really and Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: I started to work on my my own shadow expert and I started to sort of work with energy myself and I used to do some somatic work and really c starting to connect into my body in a way that I've never really, had before, and started to do rituals. I've been always I've always been aware of like products and what to use and have done yoga, but not really, I've always been a hippie at heart you'd probably say, like been through for years, but really starting to actually really embody who I was. Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: and so I really started to deepen in that was in twenty twenty four and that was the same year, I started I I guess I kind of had my awakening in a way. I had a a a bit of a spiritual awakening where I had, vibrations coming through my body. they might say it's kundalini awakening. And I, I was starting to see my spirit guides and meet them and really starting to like have these deep spiritual experiences just on my own. And that's when I started to go, wow, I really energy work, I'm really like so drawn to this. And this is where I was like when I saw Kundalini, I think it was online and I was like, my soul was already like, I'm doing that. I there was no question, I was like I booked the facilitator training before I even had a session. I found the facilitator that I wanted to be with. And there was I actually picked Iva I didn't even go with someone that was in Byron because I just didn't resonate, and I think on a soul level, you work with the people that you're meant to. And during this time, I started to, obviously have so I actually activated my kundalini without even knowing that that's what I was activating. Kait Tregenza: What is Kundalini according to you? How do you work with it? How do you activate it? What is that relationship that you personally hold? Jade Atia: It's essentially your life force energy. So we all have it within us. And it starts dormant in the in the base of your spine and then when it's awakened it comes through and it cleanses and it clears anything in its path. and when your channels are really open, I mean generally the the lower chakras need a lot of clearing and cleansing and that can be from energetically from this life and previous lives but when they're really clear and open then you can really tap into your higher consciousness and those higher chakras like up through your heart through your throat your third eye and your crown my experience is it's just it's in the feel, I don't know, it's like in your whole being that you can just feel alive and like you just have energy like going through the bottom and it's a very embodied energy but then can be so expansive so I feel like it really can helps connect your aliveness here on earth and then but also your higher consciousness to the cosmos and to your higher self and your wisdom and Kait Tregenza: Hmm. And what was your first ever experience of of this activation? Jade Atia: Mm. When I self-activated myself when I didn't even know what Kundalika Kait Tregenza: Mm-hmm. Jade Atia: was, when I was just in my own practice and I started to like move, clear I was just I didn't even know what I was doing. I was like, I'm just gonna I'm just focusing on my root chakra and I just like kind of remote viewing and just visualizing like my and just sort of clearing any density from there and then I'd move up. my next chakra and I was just I was just starting to like clear energy from my chakras not even really knowing and then once I started I just started something just in me just started to like vibrate like as I was releasing and just started I started to feel this overload of just like love feel my body and like universal love and just felt like I can't even explain that first. I mean I've had multiple experiences of of this, but just universal love was just overflowing in my body and I and but it was from the body that I felt all this all these physical sensations and then it was like and then the visions and spirit guides were starting to come through, as my third eye was opening up as well. And I didn't even know that I was activating my kundalini. But I mean there's so many there's life force energy, quantum fields. this is a practice that's been done in, many tribes and temples for like eons. Kait Tregenza: Yeah, these things are all synonyms in the end different words are applied from different cultures and different experiences, but it's all talking about the same thing, It's all that that life force energy of creation energy, right? And after a while, because you have a regular practice of doing this, when that first experience was so profound and so memorable and life changing. has it become for you just maintenance now and the whole point is like you're just running there, at at all times, or do do you still feel it come in and up and you're you're still working on maintaining that constancy or that consistency? Jade Atia: Yeah, like it changes in the like you can feel, it can be like a song that can activate you, like it can be so it can be really, not necessarily have to like do this big process and all you I just feel like you can tap into, your higher conscious I tend to like if I do go into a kundalini activation now, tend to I really, go into the third eye and the visions really quickly. and there might be obviously a little bit of, movement and things like that. But I just find like the visions and that come a lot easier. Kait Tregenza: Yeah. I the reason I asked that question is because I think a lot of the time there's a lot of, very viral videos that go around about, these complete pulsations and like, you're like almost like you're having some kind of an epileptic fit. and I think my personal journey with Kundalini, Eros, Laifos, femininity, whatever you want to call it, it's You're not necessarily chasing those convulsions and those, insane kind of things. Because first of all, you're also working alongside your nervous system. So this is about titration. This is about actually holding something that is usable in your life. not going to that that would be the same as like every day you're gonna have like an ayahuasca journey and go like completely off planet. It's like, okay. So it's not necessary for us to do every day, but what we n what is valuable from that is like, can you hold that universal love or can you hold that universal wisdom or that whatever that is that your body so opened up to in that space? Can that be something that you actually hold and live from? which is a very different desire than I wanna take a viral YouTube video and Right. So I think one of the things that would be really valuable to to just sort of note here is the difference between an activation in the moment of activation versus the living usable Yeah, it's that usable practical shift in state. It's the magnetism that happens as a result. It's the it's it's the the trust in the background that you just develop. It's it's the I've actually shifted my way of thinking because I'm actually s like living in a different frequency, or I have a different relationship with my body, or my relationships have shifted and changed. think those things are Far less viral, but more valuable. Jade Atia: Well that's it. And that's the integr that's the whole integration of it, right? ceremon the ceremony and like the actual ceremony and the process of releasing, that's ten percent that's only ten percent of the activation, Kait Tregenza: Mm-hmm. Jade Atia: what what's happening. Ninety percent I always say ninety percent of is what what happens afterwards and the integration and how it's landing in your body. how it's landed in your physical body and how it started to shift things in your daily life and who you interact with and that's the real magic. Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: This is this work. And that's not something you can film because you go along your daily life and Kait Tregenza: What's fascinating to me about your story in the timeline is that you built a wellness center before you did any of these things. So did you have like a soft spirituality before that? Like or you okay. Okay, so it didn't come out of nowhere. Jade Atia: a little bit aware. I was a l I was a little bit aware, but I still had a lot of fears. I think like I was Kait Tregenza: Mm-hmm. Jade Atia: already like I was already practicing I'd probably say at the beginning eight years ago I was already sort of like bringing in ritual and bringing in presence in my in my work. but I still had there was some There was a lot of fears I had to move through to really keep moving me forward. Kait Tregenza: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Jade Atia: But I think in this lifetime this was meant to happen. I had like a quick I think rather than a gradual kind of like Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: awakening and like it was kind of a quick fast forward. and that was the same year when I started to actually learn Kundalini and started to embody this at the s same time, a huge obviously grief portal started to hit me because with the loss of my mother. And this is where I'm getting to, the death of my mum in t nearly two years ago now. So and that was I think just being connected to my body and connected to who I was, I was able to really move through the grief, like really somatically, like really as best as I could. And it was such a huge it was such a huge kind of like wow, this was just looking at it from a spiritual point, this this was like a a real big end to my female ancestral line and what I really we I really came into this life to heal my feminine lineage and because my mum obviously died and she died of an aneurysm which is suppression, spiritually in the brain and not being able to express I mean, if you're looking at it, looking at sickness and illness, from all sorts of angles, that's what that's what in her life at really stopped her from really expressing her feminine nature and all very opposite. So I really feel with her death this is when I actually really stepped into my feminine leadership and really stepped into my gifts and my purpose and really kind of got that fire within me to really step into what I'm here to bring into this world. So it was a real pinnacle moment. Kait Tregenza: Why do you think what did your mother represent to you in your relationship? Why couldn't you have done that while she was still alive? Jade Atia: I think she had a lot of there was so much fear within her field and lots of fear. I mean, I think when I started to do Kundalini I was like, I'd love to like do some energy work on Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: my mum. Slowly, slowly introduce that into her life. 'Cause I really felt like she she was really living in her masculine a lot, like really fast paced. and I adopted a lot of that kind of like, Yep, just keep working, just keep keep pushing through, we're fine, there's nothing Kait Tregenza: Yeah, of course you did. I already know you did. You had a nervous breakdown. You don't you don't you don't get there unl unless those are the the the ways in which you've been told how to deal with difficult situations, right? Jade Atia: Mm, exactly. Kait Tregenza: Yeah. And so how did that your work was complete with your line? How did you get that feedback that yeah, this is complete, this has ended? Jade Atia: Mm, with the ancestral land. So it wasn't until about so close to nearly a year after I went on a retreat. and I knew this was going to be sort of like a pilgrimage and retreat in Greece. and I knew there was gonna be a big kind of like shift in my obviously it's it's a continual process, peeling away the layers. as it's not like, you don't have your awakening and then you're like, everything's fine. it's a, it's a continual process. but I knew this I knew I had to be in Greece and I just felt a really strong calling to go with my mentor Iva, who was from Ecuador and joined joined with all sisters around from the globe and we came together and we're obviously, learning kundalini and practicing and there was one that really came up from my womb space. a really big energetic release that was pff it wasn't from this life. So that was that confirmation and I, you could just slowly see the effects of like how I was able to like really, come into my power. I mean, even my voice I mean, even to speak on here now, like I would be so nervous to be able to like not be able to speak in front of people and things like that. So I really had that fear of, speaking my truth and so that's like that was a confirmation and just seeing what was sort of coming through after that. Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: was quite beautiful. Kait Tregenza: So what I like about your journey and your path is that this happened for you after children and So you're not a 20-something year old with, all the time in the world to devote to yourself and to your awakening and to your practices and your ritual and getting your business up and running and, doing Instagram and all those things, right? So you have three children, three businesses. And I'm sure that you like to talk to your husband from time to time. So there's time that you like to spend with him as well. So there's a there's a lot of time already, that's for a lot of other people, other than you and your practices. I'm curious for all of the mothers because there's there's a very I would say shame-covered sub-dialect that can co-on with a lot of the feminine mystery teachers who are Jade Atia: Mm. Kait Tregenza: unattached. Whether they're, tantricas who don't even have the conceptualization of, a monogamous committed relationship. So they don't have to tend to that in the same way. Because marriage takes Jade Atia: Mm. Kait Tregenza: a lot of work. So that's the first thing. And then, having three likely extremely different children with extremely different needs at extremely different ages, and they're all very young still and they still need you. You're not, you're not the mother of 20 somethings off doing their own thing, right? Like you're still deep in motherhood. And you've Jade Atia: Mm. Kait Tregenza: got these budding businesses that you, you're still growing. How Jade Atia: Mm. Kait Tregenza: within all of that do you tend to your personal Jade Atia: Mm-hmm. Kait Tregenza: self, to your rituals, to your practice to keep, Jade Atia: Mm-hmm. Kait Tregenza: not only keep this alive, but like Keep developing, keep unfolding, keep going deeper into yourself. Jade Atia: Hmm. good question. Thank you. I look, it's it's not perfect as well. like, it's got to be, this certain way. But I think as mothers, like it really like motherhood really, brings you into the 3D and the real reality. And I think it's about like it's learning to create. life as ceremony and life as ritual as well and keeping things like simple and whether it's just getting up that little bit I know, I like to get up a little bit earlier than everyone does at home. So it's just like lighting a candle, lighting my incense and just coming hand on the heart, on the womb and just sort of breathing like how, where am I today? and just really bringing that presence into where I am and it doesn't have to be really complicated, just sort of feeling what's alive in me today and just sort of reflecting on that. Depends on how much time I've got. It's either a ten minute like meditation, just a ten minute stillness or twenty minute, twenty minutes is ideal, but I like to do that. And then, moving body like I move my body as well and do a bit of a yoga practice, stretching. And that's sort of my beginning of the day. and my end of the day is like, when the kids are in bed. So it's sauna or sauna at home. that's a really good downtime. And again, just like coming into my altar, lighting the candles. sometimes it might be just one candle, I might not even light a candle, It's sort of like I think you've got to be learnt to adapt and be a little bit more fluid in like not being so I have to a certain way. 'Cause I can create beautiful altars and I love like creating, I think it's a part of my blueprint is beauty and creation. And I love to do things, in a really ritual way and like how I set up, my spaces and everything. It's just innately in me to Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: do that. But it also can just be really basic as well. And just just kind of like just dropping dropping down into your body and just like moving and connecting into the womb as well. so I just try and find little moment definitely the morning and the nights, I do some sort of like ritual practice and Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: if I've got especially if I'm not working here, in this space or anything, or do definitely some more self care, like go get a massage or something, like have like a real dedication of like doing like a really beautiful bath with roses and Kait Tregenza: Mm. Mm. Jade Atia: Trying so I guess going with the flow but then not always, sometimes I need more sleep, but mm that's okay. Kait Tregenza: Yeah. I really love what you said about the the the life as ritual, the life is ceremony. It's been so fascinating. I really loved what you said, like life has to become the ceremony. And just Jade Atia: Mm-hmm. Kait Tregenza: it just made me realize that when mothers incorporate their children into their rituals, it's not as hard to find time to carve out to do these things, but it's like part of the culture of of the home. Jade Atia: Yes. It should be. it's obviously ideal when I'm doing ceremonies, to like I can't have children there because like I'm holding space. But Kait Tregenza: Lo does it's d it doesn't always have to be child friendly, yes. Jade Atia: No, I know. But then incorp incorporating them because like the women that are gonna be growing up. Like I've got a daughter, my first is a daughter, and she's it's that whole, the way she presents things and she, takes care of things and makes things beautiful and, and that's just all, by watching me and Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: They take so much and create weaving that in their lives that that it becomes it should be become it should become a natural way of being and life. And I guess that's Kait Tregenza: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Jade Atia: work what I'm really wanting to really bring into the hair industry at the Kait Tregenza: Hmm. Jade Atia: moment is weaving that going to the hairdresser is more than just going I just need to get that done. I just need to get that done and gin get in and out and just that that that whole rushing kind of aspect to really go like how the the goddesses and like the queens and in ancient times how they actually used to honour that time of really a sacred adorning themselves and that it's a really it's a it's a beautiful way to express in the world and to really bring the beauty of what being on earth is all about. So Kait Tregenza: what is your hair? What is hair? What have you discovered through these journeys, through these meditations, through your own initiations of what is what even is hair? What is its meaning? What does it hold? What is its possibility? You mentioned things like hair as a portal, to what? How? Like I'm Jade Atia: Mm-hmm. Kait Tregenza: so fascinated. Tell tell this deep story. Jade Atia: Well, essentially your hair is your extension to your soul and it's it's on your crown, so it's like an antenna. So it holds so the it holds so much wisdom, with the length. So depending on how long it is, it holds the stories, it holds holds so much energetically in the hair. And obviously when you're cutting it, you're actually letting go of a lot of that old those old stories if that's something that you feel ready to let go of and that's that you're needed to move into this next chapter. So that's why in ancient tribes, They used to having hair ceremonies was a natural way of being and in in communities, to actually really honour this rite of passage of, hair cutting. I mean they still have, in some religions and there's still you don't cut your hair till three, there's still Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: traditions still around, in some religions as well. but it's a really It's obviously it's your physical your physical representation of your of your of your aura as well. So it's like that representation of your soul. So it's quite a big it's a it's kind of our first initial, from skin and hair, like it's one of our major major organs or things that that represent us and what we're bringing into the world. So Kait Tregenza: do I'm not someone Jade Atia: Okay. Kait Tregenza: who goes monthly to a hairdresser. I could go years before going to a hairdresser. And then when I go, it's like for a reason. So I feel like I'm very aligned to what you're already doing. For Jade Atia: Yeah. Kait Tregenza: me, hair has always been very clearly something that's a part of me. and I've always had long hair. it was March this year, I cut it to just above my chin. it would like grow until it gets to like the bottom of my ribs. That's like my normal I've done that twice in the last four or five years. I cut my hair off when I left my marriage, and then I cut my hair off again when it was like fully final, like I'm now in a different point of my life. So like at the beginning Jade Atia: Mm. Kait Tregenza: of the transition, into that time, and then I'm on solid feet, I'm on solid ground, the last Two years of transition and I cut my hair again. So these like Jade Atia: Mm. Kait Tregenza: really big marker points in my life. It was like cutting my hair and I cut it really short. And so, like funnily for me, my hair is like, no, I I need to be long. Like I am a long haired person. And so I was just like listening to you about like how your hair holds wisdom and wants to give wisdom And I was just wondering, from an energetic perspective, maybe it's like, you've grown a lot of wisdom from this moment, and we need to grow lots of new new growth to hold that, to support that. I was just, I was just curious if that's Something you've come across Jade Atia: This is a comment. Well I think it's it it is it's a representation of what's inside and that's a perfect example. What you're what Kait Tregenza: Okay. Jade Atia: you're literally just telling me now about how you really cut your hair off at a significant time in your life. Kait Tregenza: Mm, mm. Jade Atia: Perfect. Like usually you're letting go of that old like it was a chapter that you, release and you're moving it and then even that process, like, obviously two years you said transition and then you just felt to do it again because obviously Kait Tregenza: It wasn't even a feeling, it was like I need I I I have this like I can't Jade Atia: But Kait Tregenza: have this hair on me. Like it was this real like this has to go, like it has to go. And it was almost like if I don't book into a hairdresser, I'm gonna like cut this off myself, like it has to go. It was this really big requirement. Jade Atia: Mm, yeah, that's beautiful. That's perfect. And that's that's the way you should feel when you and you're ready for that as well. Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: 'Cause you would have walked into the salon or th went to the hairdresser and like, just cut it off. because you're ready you're in you're already embodied in that and that's why Kait Tregenza: And then they try to convince you, like, really? But your hair's so beautiful. Cut it off. Do you need me to get the scissors? Like cut it off. Jade Atia: You were like ready I love it. 'Cause you already you're already living like that's when you're already there. this is one thing I do, want to teach to hairdressers as well. Like there's there's so much like it's we get ideas, we get visions, we get ideas. So someone can come into you and they can show you a picture and say, like I want to do something different. But and then they're showing you the picture, right? And as hairdressers, you actually this is this is all we're trained at hairdressing school is you have to listen to the client and do what they say. Listen thoroughly to the whole consultation and and and whatever they're saying, that's what you do. But really When you really, when you become a an intuitive stylist and someone who's really attuned to that that person, what they're coming in, and they're actually kind of starting to go, I'm doubting, like they start to question all parts about, the picture they're showing you and the consultation's starting to go on and they're like, but what about this, this? They're not ready. They're not ready for that change. Even though they might have showed you something and they might have got a little vision. It's kind of like, I got a vision for the wellness space, but if it opened the next week Well, I was still like, what the fuck did I do? But you're not there and not embodying it because they they still have to go through an initiation in their life, whatever that is, to embody that change. Kait Tregenza: Hmm. Jade Atia: They don't need any there's no questions asked. They are just so sitting in the chair and they like cut it all off. They're like, Yep, I trust. They already have a trust in you in what you can deliver. so that's a really important piece. not a lot of hairdressers can attune to that because we're Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: what we're taught and it and it actually and this is where, being intuitive and more kind of in tune with someone going, hey, like I feel, this is where I don't think we're ready for this yet. Let's do something a little bit more low key and just maybe just a little change today and we can work when you're ready, Whereas, when you're just explaining to me, like I was just like, yes. And even though the hairdresser was like, you've got beautiful hair, but that's what you wanted deep down and you and you were already embodying that new version of you. Kait Tregenza: Mm, mm. Jade Atia: some people just like it's good to have visions and obviously they could have a little spirit can just drop that in going, Ooh, there's something c or something coming up in your life that you're about to go through a big transition. Like you might have might have not come yet, it might be something like a a death in the family or something like Kait Tregenza: Your preempting, yeah. Yeah. Jade Atia: like you don't even know and then suddenly they you can go back, then next few months going, I'm ready for that now. Like coming Kait Tregenza: Mm, mm, mm. Jade Atia: out of that huge initiation or whatever they had to go through. So Mm. Kait Tregenza: And did you like know all of this before you did your initiations in in the temples and working with your teacher in Ecuador? Or is this something that you came to understand as a result of that work? Jade Atia: I'd slowly I think I think I kind of knew 'cause it's all it has been within me. before I had to move through my own initiations. There was glimpses of like I n I kind of like knew I needed to get something out in the world, but I I couldn't quite articulate it or I couldn't quite bring it to life yet. So just more and more as I've stepped into my gifts and more Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: I've had to walk through the fire and continue a process that it's become more clear in, my mission and what I'm here to. Birth into the new earth. Kait Tregenza: Yeah. And so what's your what's your vision? Like how does how does hairdressing or how does hair in general sit in that vision of the new earth that you're holding? That birthing? Jade Atia: How does it sit in the vision? Kait Tregenza: What does it look like in this ideal world that you're hoping to birth? Jade Atia: I think just bringing back presence in and intention. Like we're coming back to what we're talking about, creating, life as ceremony. Like going to get your hair d I guess like in in this new earth or in in this new way that it's actually like a nourishing experience and that it's not just something that we're just getting done just to, get that done and then move on to the next thing. It's actually like something that's more meaningful in our lives. and it can really help with moving you into, your next version of yourself and really you for you stepping up into your power and into your, highest light and highest timeline. there's two things that have to sort of happen. It's obviously the industry of how it's been going for this long. it's been operating very fast paced and very there's a lot of burnt out hairdressers, nervous systems just not coping physically, mentally, they're leaving the industry, they can't sustain long term. there's young people not wanting to go into this industry the way it's already been operating because connection with humans, like some younger people don't know how to do how to how to really feel and connect. Kait Tregenza: Right. Jade Atia: so there's there's it's a they'll use hair, it's just a necessity or it's just something, Kait Tregenza: Okay. Jade Atia: there's real humans, behind that Kait Tregenza: Hmm. Jade Atia: and or not being, paid accordingly and things like that. So we have to sort of change the way, from a consumer and there's two and the way the actual industry, how the industry operates Kait Tregenza: Mm-hmm. Jade Atia: change into if we're going to like change the way this industry is in the new earth. So Kait Tregenza: Hmm. And and as a Jade Atia: If it's like Kait Tregenza: business owner, I'm curious after your your nervous breakdown, your overwhelm, now coming more fully into your own femininity and your own feminine embodiment, working with Kundalini, Eros, all all of these other sides of your skill set that probably weren't, cultivated until until recently until after 2024. How changed your business? Because you were you were running a hairdressing business or at least a chair for 25 years, right? And so I'm Jade Atia: Hmm. Kait Tregenza: curious what you've discovered about how you want to work in a in a business way, in a sustainable business way through this feminine side of you. Jade Atia: so I had my own business for the last fifteen years. and before that I worked with, and was that right? So I'm just going Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: back and so I in well in this time in twenty twenty four, like it was quite clear to me I had a I had a salon small team, and always why I had babies as well. Like it was only th three to four staff at a time. So not a huge salon, but enough to manage staff and this the old way of like how like having a business and having staff and having apprentice. and then in twenty twenty four as I was starting to like really go deep into my really listen to my intuition. It was just like it was really strong that I need to get rid of I needed to just stop having staff at this stage and I just needed to let the staff go. and I changed my whole model in twenty twenty four. So nearly two years ago. and I let go I didn't have any apprentices and the the seniors that I had at that time, I just sort of said, look, I literally gave them a business and said, that's been that model. So then I could just purely just work just for myself on my own clients and that really created spaciousness because it just, running running a team, running, the responsibilities of having that old model is such a you need so many things in place. And that what was what really, used to be a quite a big stress was managing, and the way kind of COVID changed things and, and it was just so hard to get staff that were really embodied. Like I w I know I was deepening, like creating more deeper treatments at the base and and then I really just wasn't getting the staff embodying my way of how I wanted them to it was just really hard, I just couldn't get the staff to represent what I was sort of move moving into. So let all that go. And then I've just been working on myself, working for myself, my own clients and doing I started to hold space as well in my in my temple, with Kundalini activation group ceremonies and really started to step into that. And it's just been a lot more manageable. where I'm at and to really start to step into like, what I'm what I'm here to like what I'll never not have anyone mentoring under me or anything or I don't know if that that way I'll continue or ever do that kind of model again with apprentices and things like that because it's just it's there's a lot of salons that are not running like that anymore. as well because it's just too much pressure. and there's just not enough hairdressers, they're all going out on their own anyway. So I think moving forward, like looking at what, I would love to like more, if it's mental hairdressers that are already been in the industry for a while and are really gonna step into their gifts and really step into like being more of an intuitive intuitive stylist and learn to nourish their own nervous system and that's kind of where Kait Tregenza: what have you discovered about Eros, about Kundalini, and how that is informing you as a business owner Jade Atia: It's giving me like so much more life force. Like, so much more like passion and so much more like energy, like I'm mid forties now and like I feel like I've got more energy in my, in my life more than I did when I was in my twenties and hairdressing and being burnt out. So like and I feel like just doing the energy work, it's just keeping me, like I feel like it actually keeps you, young as well. And I feel like, I I mean I've always been quite creative as well, but and it's just giving me so much more passion to flow. Kait Tregenza: Hm. And and so apart from the life force and the energy and the passion, all of that, has it actually shifted how you think about money or business? Jade Atia: there's like, in the and being naturally magnetized, like and being Kait Tregenza: Yeah. Jade Atia: magnetized more like in your feminine. Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: I think really trusting in that as well more and more, even though sometimes you're like, I need to like make this happen to there's a but really just really seeing like the beauty of when just when you're in your flow and like how much you magnetize and wow power Kait Tregenza: Mm. Mm. Jade Atia: that that that that can bring and and when there's no forcing and Kait Tregenza: Mm. Jade Atia: real the masculine way of doing business. So Kait Tregenza: Yeah. Jade Atia: and learning to just move with the seasons and, knowing that like you have you have the integrations and the f especially as a woman and really working in the real feminine way. we need the masculine structure as well. So I'm not saying we don't definitely have that. We Kait Tregenza: Just arrive whenever you feel for your ceremony today Jade Atia: Well. Kait Tregenza: and we may or may not be here. It might very well. Jade Atia: No. Exactly. No. We definitely have to have, a healthy balance of both. But I think just trusting in I think this old wave of like the masculine and pushing, especially and especially my industry, that has to kind of fall away. Kait Tregenza: Yeah. Your your kundalini is your mag marketing strategy. Jade Atia: Energetic. Well this is what I really want to bring, when I created Crown Alchemy, which is mastering the energetics of hairdressing and I'll be bringing Kundalini energy into into the hair world. I really believe anyone that's working with hair as they've probably worked with higher like with the crown consciousness in some way. And it's about and that's why they're working with hair in this life as well. Not everyone, Kait Tregenza: Hmm, mm-hmm. Jade Atia: but Kait Tregenza: Hair priestesses. Jade Atia: Hair priestesses, Kait Tregenza: Mm. So Jade, you're doing so many wonderful, interesting, related, unrelated, in the history, in the history of women, this is like really resetting things back into harmony, back into equilibrium again. I'm so curious, what is the bigger ultimate vision that you're holding for everything that you're building? y when it's you're eighty years from now and you're looking back at your life, like what do you hope that you've built? Like what was the vision that you hope will have happened? Jade Atia: The legacy. I think to see, to see a change in the industry and to see a change in, why people go, and receive a service, whether that's, anything, that the value is that it's a really sacred it's a sacred act of, coming home to yourself and and just I guess that's what I, wanna see in in this industry and like the work that I'm doing and people coming back into their hearts. we're we're coming back into a time where, starting to, come back into their truth and what's really alive within them and and not living from the head. So mm. Kait Tregenza: Beautiful. May it be, may may that be the vision that we all hold for you as well. So tell Jade Atia: Mm. Kait Tregenza: people how can they come and work with you? How can they, either as a client, as a hairdresser, as someone who wants to attend some of your wellness events, how can we find you and connect with you? Jade Atia: beautiful. So I do one on one sessions at the Nishima Wellness Collective and I do one on one sessions with my hair artistry. I do rituals and hair creations, with beautiful nervous system resets and treatments And launching my first online crown alchemy course called Mastering the Energetics of Hairdressing and that will be a six week on online course so you can join from anywhere around the world. And we will be diving into everything energetic and really diving into working with your intuition. you'll be learning all my techniques and my rituals You can jump onto my website and you can apply for that will be starting in October, mid-October. ceremony. So if you want to experience, a group ceremony before having like a one on one, it's a really good way to come and experience, your life force energy. Kait Tregenza: Jade, thank you so much for the beautiful work that you do in the world and for bringing this Yeah, this lineage of hair priestessing back into the modern era for for all women everywhere to really understand that their hair is not just ornate but living living oracle, living wisdom, right? This is this is part of our antenna and it's part of a way that we can start to work with our hair. So while you're holding the beacon of like why we should go to the hairdresser, I know that, it will start to unfold of like how do we actually as individual women start working with our hair or seeing our hair or appreciating our hair, understanding our hair in a very, very different way. And so yeah, I know there's gonna be a lot of like ahas and like deeper questions from listeners to this episode of going, okay, I don't think that I've really held my hair in this way before. And so I'm sure that you've dropped a lot of wisdom here today of just, is there a possibility for you to connect in with your hair in a in a really like held and actually like conscious connection, like as as any other aspect of our of our body, we can connect into and and and deepen our relationship with it. So I think you, yeah, I think you've probably opened a door for a lot of women listening to to ask how could I do this differently? And I think that's really Jade Atia: Mm. Kait Tregenza: valuable. So thank you so much for holding this light and this mission and showing up Not only to do your own personal work for you and your children and and to clear the lineage of nine generations of women, which is so huge. And what your family thanks you so much for that, but for also the work that you're doing, in the in the temple space. So thank you. Jade Atia: Thank you so much, Kate, for having me. It's been a pleasure. Such an honour. Thank you. 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