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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, April 27 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive. John Dick, Ashlyn Sullo Sounds, John
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Speaker 1: Oceans and Brian Sexton. Jacks Drive JI starts right now.
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Speaker 1: You guys already know who you're gonna be ticking or
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Speaker 1: is that still working progress? That's still a work in progress?
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Speaker 1: How is it still a work in progress? I mean
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Speaker 1: last year it was a slam dunk Is it not
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Speaker 1: a slam dunkle shooting? It's still a work in progress.
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Speaker 1: Litly no surprises here. Trent faul Pyo will not be
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Speaker 1: telling anyone who the Jaguars are drafting number one overall.
0:43
Speaker 1: Breaking news this morning as we start Drive time, the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars have franchise tag offensive tackle Cam Robinson three years,
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Speaker 1: fifty four million dollars. This is just a report by
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Speaker 1: Ian Rappapore. This has not been confirmed by the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: as of now, but we kind of knew this was coming.
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Speaker 1: So interesting that it happens during off week. Welcome in
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time. We are live here on a Tuesday morning,
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Speaker 1: and we are here in Daily's place getting ready for
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Speaker 1: the draft party tomorrow. Big day. Draft starts tomorrow, and uh,
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Speaker 1: big news this morning with Cam Robins. Send it. It's
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Speaker 1: not much of a surprise. We knew this was coming,
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Speaker 1: but to have this solidified, it's nice that it's over with. Well,
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Speaker 1: it's solidified. It's a three year deal, and I think
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Speaker 1: everybody's gonna talk about does this take offensive tackle off
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Speaker 1: the table, et cetera. I don't think that's the case
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Speaker 1: at all. Uh. I think it's it solidifies a player that, Uh,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars believe you've been here in this everything standard
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Speaker 1: of season. They believe he isn't as sending player. They
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Speaker 1: believe he is a player has his best years ahead
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Speaker 1: of him. Uh. This locks down the left tackle position,
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Speaker 1: certainly for this year. If they draft a left tackle
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Speaker 1: or they draft to tackle, I assume they could put
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Speaker 1: that players somewhere else. Uh. It solidifies the spot that
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Speaker 1: they wanted to get done. It's not surprising, though I
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Speaker 1: think some people will react to it in such a
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Speaker 1: way that it will affect tomorrow night. I don't think
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Speaker 1: it affects tomorrow night whatsoever. Yeah, they were planning on
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Speaker 1: this happening. It's a lot of money, but that's what
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Speaker 1: left tackles make. You see that that money sign, You're like, wow,
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Speaker 1: that that's a lot. But it's I think it's in line.
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Speaker 1: It's not a top of the market deal where you
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Speaker 1: know he's resetting the market. It's a three year deal,
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Speaker 1: which means it's relatively short. He's he's got five years in.
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Speaker 1: If he plays this year out, uh, then he is
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Speaker 1: in his eighth year. Uh, he'd be a ninth year
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Speaker 1: guy for a third contract. That's not out of the
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Speaker 1: possibility at all for a left tackle. So it's not
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Speaker 1: necessarily a tremendously long term deal within the range of deals.
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Speaker 1: It's actually about to be short term deal. It gives
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Speaker 1: even a chance to make a lot of money on
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Speaker 1: this deal, and as a left tackle, those guys play
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Speaker 1: a long time. Camer Robinson could walk away from this
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Speaker 1: game very very wealthy. Yes, makes things even more interesting
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Speaker 1: for tomorrow night, the first round of the NFL Draft
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Speaker 1: as we get into big things, and big thing one
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Speaker 1: is offense or defense. Who are the Jaguar going to
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Speaker 1: take right now? There are four options, so we think Evan, Neila, Kwanu, Hutchinson,
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Speaker 1: and Walker. So you have to decide are you're gonna
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Speaker 1: take a staple on defense that helps your defense right
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Speaker 1: away or now with Cam Robinson being signed, are you
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Speaker 1: thinking more long term offensive line. Well, one guy that
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Speaker 1: is absolutely shot up the rakings is tray Von Walker,
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Speaker 1: almost the favorite as of right now for the number
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Speaker 1: one overall picks. So how will he work in this
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Speaker 1: system if he is the guy? Dever schemes a little
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Speaker 1: bit different coaches using a little bit differently. So where
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Speaker 1: does that guy fit in our scheme versus where he
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Speaker 1: might fit in another scheme? So that's talked about a lot,
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Speaker 1: and you really leave that up to the coaches. You
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Speaker 1: have a vision as a personnel guy where you think
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Speaker 1: a guy could, players should play and then you just
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Speaker 1: you know, you give them to the coaches and you
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Speaker 1: hear them out and that's how you just kind of
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Speaker 1: put the pieces together that way. Big thing too is
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Speaker 1: what about wide receiver? It is no question that Jaguars
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Speaker 1: need more speed this roster, and everyone thinks they're going
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Speaker 1: to take a wide receiver at some point. A lot
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Speaker 1: of eyes are on that thirty third overall pick, the
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Speaker 1: first pick of the second round to possibly get that done.
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Speaker 1: But the consensus is that all the top receivers might
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Speaker 1: be gone by then. So do you a draft up
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Speaker 1: or trade up to get that guy at wide receiver?
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Speaker 1: And coach Peterson gives his thoughts about the draft class. Overall,
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Speaker 1: it's a good group. Um, maybe not as deep as
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Speaker 1: it's been I think in years past. You know, the
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Speaker 1: top of the top of the list is is is
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Speaker 1: pretty good. You know, there are some guys that are
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Speaker 1: obviously been nicked up, you know, coming out of the
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Speaker 1: college season and whatnot. But um, you know, again it
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Speaker 1: just goes back to just us evaluating you know, them
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Speaker 1: as a as a as a player, their talent and
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Speaker 1: not so much you know, how can they fit us?
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Speaker 1: But but where are they from a talent standpoint, you know,
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Speaker 1: And and once you get you know, down the down
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Speaker 1: the road a little bit there, there's a little bit
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Speaker 1: of a of a drop off. But but there's still
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Speaker 1: guys that can come in and compete and compete for
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Speaker 1: roster spots, play special teams. You look at that value
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Speaker 1: as well, you know, from a from a coaching perspective,
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Speaker 1: and and you know how much special teams have they played,
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Speaker 1: you know, during college. So you know, um, that's kind
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Speaker 1: of been the with the with the receiver group. We
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Speaker 1: look at the same kind of you know every year
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Speaker 1: and um, you know, there are some guys there that
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Speaker 1: can that can make a difference. And finally, big thing
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Speaker 1: three is the first day. It was the first day
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Speaker 1: of voluntary man, it's voluntary veteran many can't there's so
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Speaker 1: many phases these days. It was the first day yesterday
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Speaker 1: where the Jaguars could be on the practice field with
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Speaker 1: their new coaching staff, and we caught up with wide
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Speaker 1: receiver Marvin Jones, who's gonna know his new head coach
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Speaker 1: a little better. Definitely a players coach, you know. Um,
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Speaker 1: he's he's been through it, you know, and and he's
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Speaker 1: been in our seats. Um, so you know, you always
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Speaker 1: you always got to give him that max respect because
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Speaker 1: you know he has played just like just like we
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Speaker 1: we have. So um, you know he knows what he's doing. Um.
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Speaker 1: You know, a good, great energy um. And that resonates
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Speaker 1: throughout the whole coaching staff. So um, it's it's perfectly
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Speaker 1: and they have it. Those are big things. A lot
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Speaker 1: going on this week. We are hearing so much. If
6:08
Speaker 1: you log on Twitter, you hear who the Jaguars are
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Speaker 1: taking and it changes every ten minutes. So we all
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Speaker 1: have our opinions on who the Jaguars should take. We're
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Speaker 1: hearing everything about who we think the Jaguars will take
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Speaker 1: now with Cam Robinson having that tag, it really doesn't
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Speaker 1: change much about the offensive line. If you think you're
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Speaker 1: taking offensive line, you think it's because it's a long
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Speaker 1: term solution defense short term at this point, well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think they've the theory there is if
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Speaker 1: you're taking Hutchinson or if you're taking Walker, it can
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Speaker 1: put somebody opposite Josh Allen. It can make your defense
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Speaker 1: much better very quickly. If you're taking offensive line, you're
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Speaker 1: solidifying it. Overall, You're not exactly sure where now with
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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson being on the tag, I mean not being
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Speaker 1: on the tag and being around for minimum two years
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Speaker 1: on a three year deal, but most likely three because
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Speaker 1: most guys who signed three year deals will play that
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Speaker 1: whole deal, the whole deal out. Overall, though, you go
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Speaker 1: back to that theory that left tackle and right tackle. Now,
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Speaker 1: ten years ago, you would have never taken an offensive
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Speaker 1: lineman at number one if he wasn't going to fit
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Speaker 1: right in and play left tackle. Now, most people, and
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Speaker 1: I believe I've heard Doug say this, right tackle left
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Speaker 1: tackle not a huge difference in terms of the value,
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Speaker 1: in terms of the role, because defenses move their best
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Speaker 1: pass rusher all along their defensive front. So could you
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Speaker 1: take a Kwanta put him out at right tackle. I
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Speaker 1: doubt that would happen the first year. I think if
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Speaker 1: if he was the pick, he would be more of
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Speaker 1: a Quintin Nelson type, who is a guard who comes
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Speaker 1: in and solidifies you in the middle. Doug Peterson, remember
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Speaker 1: when he was in Philadelphia, Think we're gonna talk about
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Speaker 1: this later as well, had a great offensive line with
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Speaker 1: two really really good tackles on the outside. They don't
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Speaker 1: mind being good at all spots. It's a little bit
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Speaker 1: of a different approach than a lot of teams would
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Speaker 1: take these days. A lot of people think you don't
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Speaker 1: have to have a great, highly drafted offensive line, but
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson believes in the opposite. He believes that you
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Speaker 1: need to be good on the offensive front with elite
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Speaker 1: talent on the offensive front. So, uh, she Lynn at
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Speaker 1: this point, nothing surprised me out of the number one picks. Uh.
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Speaker 1: If it's out of that group, and and uh, we'll
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Speaker 1: go over Evan Neil of Alabama, Aidan Hutchinson and Michigan
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Speaker 1: A Kuan of North Carolina State, and the fourth is
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Speaker 1: Traylon Walker. Of Georgia. Those are the guys people are
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Speaker 1: talking about. Bear in mind, Trent bulk Here, Doug Peterson
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Speaker 1: have not said those are the four. So is there
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Speaker 1: a wild card? I don't know. I think it comes
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Speaker 1: out of those four. Uh. I have less of an
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Speaker 1: idea what to believe about the number one pick then
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Speaker 1: I've had in probably ten years following this thing. I know.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting. Everyone's asking how's the week going, how's the
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Speaker 1: prep going? And it's funny because we relate so much
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Speaker 1: to last year, where we knew who the number one
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Speaker 1: overall pick was gonna be for six months, so you
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Speaker 1: have everything planned out, everything is ready to go. Now
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Speaker 1: you have four different options, and it very well could
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Speaker 1: not even be those sports about this last year may
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Speaker 1: have been on the rushmore of slam dunk picks. Of
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Speaker 1: the last thirty years I've been follow in the draft,
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Speaker 1: maybe since eighty three or eighty four when I was
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Speaker 1: a kid, I don't know that there's ever been a
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Speaker 1: year where it was is sure Andrew Luck was sure,
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Speaker 1: you know, way back, but everybody knew Trevor Lawrence probably
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Speaker 1: for two years a mean, the number one pick, and
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars had that picks, so they easy. Now is
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Speaker 1: setting you fast forward and may have one of the
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Speaker 1: hardest selections of the last twenty years. So welcome to
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, And I think it's hard because you
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Speaker 1: look at all four of these guys and they all
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Speaker 1: are fantastic players, but there's not that home run really
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Speaker 1: sucks he pick that we always talk about, and it
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Speaker 1: just I keep going back to the defense and I
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Speaker 1: see the argument for Walker Hutchinson, but the state of
9:48
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are in right now, winning three games last
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Speaker 1: year and ball Key saying you know, I'm not gonna
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Speaker 1: be around for another number one overall pick. It just
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Speaker 1: to me seems like you gotta go with the safe,
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Speaker 1: and I hate saying the safe. Maybe we could say
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Speaker 1: solid choice with Hutchinson. Well, and I locked into that
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Speaker 1: early on. I talked about Hutchins being the safe pick.
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Speaker 1: That's probably what I would do because I've been talking
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Speaker 1: about it so often, and I agree with you, I'm
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Speaker 1: I'm the safe pick guy. At the same time, the
10:17
Speaker 1: reality is if there was a truly safe pick, everybody
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Speaker 1: would take it and there would be no disagreement. There's
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Speaker 1: no such thing as a really safe pick, and grab
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Speaker 1: is he the safest I think, so does he have
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Speaker 1: the best technique in terms of pass rush? Do you
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Speaker 1: sort of know I'm gonna get at least US seven
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Speaker 1: or eight sacks out of this guy a year? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you feel that with this guy. But if it was
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Speaker 1: a truly safe pick, we wouldn't be having the discussion.
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Speaker 1: Every one of these four and even Cabon Thibodeaux, who's
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Speaker 1: the other guy who you would think maybe in some
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Speaker 1: in some sort of conversation, they all have risk. So
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Speaker 1: I got to know his own question a couple of
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Speaker 1: days ago about wouldn't Walker and a quantity be re ches.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what reach means. I think if reaches risk,
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Speaker 1: which I assume it is, then every one of these
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Speaker 1: guys is a reach to a degree because there's no
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Speaker 1: guarantees with this spot. There's never a guarantee. It feels
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Speaker 1: like there's less of a guarantee with these guys. But
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Speaker 1: I don't think it is necessarily a deal where it's
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Speaker 1: automatic that you're going to look back in five years
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Speaker 1: and say, oh boy, that was a bad drive. You
11:23
Speaker 1: guys have a chance to be good players. They're just
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Speaker 1: not as guaranteed as as you felt about guys coming
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Speaker 1: in maybe the last four or five years. Yeah, it
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Speaker 1: just makes trump Fulky's job a little more difficult. He's
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Speaker 1: done his due. Yeah, the keyword was due diligence. I
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Speaker 1: think they said that like ton Times on Friday. That'll
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Speaker 1: get set a lot during the Well. Hey, staying with
11:42
Speaker 1: us on Jaguars Drive Time. Much more to come. We're
11:44
Speaker 1: gonna have Brian Sexton from Vegas shortly talk much more
11:47
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12:26
Speaker 1: It's a twosy. I'm sorry I keep saying Tuesday because
12:29
Speaker 1: I'm used to doing the show on Tuesday. Wednesday. Today
12:31
Speaker 1: is Wednesday. There's no getting around the calendar. Gosh, because
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Speaker 1: tomorrow is Thursday, and tomorrow is the first day of
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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. You can come to this awesome draft party.
12:41
Speaker 1: Tickets are still available on Jaguars dot com. We're gonna
12:44
Speaker 1: have Doug Peterson on the stage player panel. John, You're
12:47
Speaker 1: gonna be I will be there. You will be there,
12:50
Speaker 1: and the Bucky Brooks will be on there. So it's
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Speaker 1: a star studded show. Even without me, it's a star
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Speaker 1: stud star studded. I can't even say that. I can't
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Speaker 1: even say. That's a tounk twister to say at least. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let's rebring up the breaking news this morning, which is
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Speaker 1: all about Cam Robinson reaching that new deal. It's a
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Speaker 1: three year, fifty four million dollar deal, reported by Ian
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Speaker 1: Rappaport of NFL Network. The Jaguars have not confirmed that
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Speaker 1: this is the case as of now, but this is
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Speaker 1: absolutely no surprise. We heard last Friday at the pre
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Speaker 1: draft press conference that they were still working towards a
13:21
Speaker 1: long term deal to Cam Robinson and it was a
13:23
Speaker 1: work in progress. So John, we talked about it in
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Speaker 1: the last segment that it's really not changing anything for
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Speaker 1: the guys that want to Quanu or want Neal has
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Speaker 1: a number one overall pick. When you look at this
13:34
Speaker 1: they both have the versatility to play other positions. You
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Speaker 1: would imagine Cam Robinson is stillier left tackle, and it
13:39
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt to push other guys on the offensive line
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Speaker 1: to solidify your starters. Well, you've reached a time in
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Speaker 1: the NFL again, like we said earlier. Um, if this
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Speaker 1: had been fifteen years ago, then I think you sign Camera.
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Speaker 1: I'm too a long term deal and you say, hey,
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Speaker 1: no way. Conceptually, can we invest a number one draft
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Speaker 1: pick in a right tackle or a guard? Um? I
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Speaker 1: don't think you would invest it in a guard if
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Speaker 1: you thought he was gonna be there forever. But you're
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Speaker 1: also not taking the number one overall pick with the
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Speaker 1: idea that you're solving a two year need. So for
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Speaker 1: the long term good of the franchise, if you believe
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Speaker 1: that a Kwantu or Neil are the best player in
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Speaker 1: this draft and they can play guard, I think you
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Speaker 1: take them. You put them at guard, and you think
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Speaker 1: about this offensive line SCHLND. You have either Jowan Taylor
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Speaker 1: or walk a little on the right, you can Robinson
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Speaker 1: on the left. You have the center who I think
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be Tyler Shatley. But I think got the
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Speaker 1: draft also got could have something to say about that.
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Speaker 1: You have Brandon sure for five time Pro bowler, and
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Speaker 1: then if you have a quantu guard. Well. I think
14:45
Speaker 1: it was on our heddle Up podcast with Bucky Brooks
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Speaker 1: yesterday on Tuesday that he said Doug Peterson and the
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Speaker 1: Els won the Super Bowl had a team where he
14:53
Speaker 1: felt like they could do whatever they want running or
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Speaker 1: passing because of their offensive line. And if you visualize
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Speaker 1: that Super Bowl back then, the Eagles during that game
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Speaker 1: against the Patriots were able to run effectively in situations
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Speaker 1: where you would normally be passing. They were able to
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Speaker 1: run and have a balanced offense because of that. At
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Speaker 1: least me to believe, Doug Peterson loves that if you
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Speaker 1: have an offensive line that can do that, then that
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Speaker 1: becomes the core and the strength of your team. Is
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Speaker 1: that the direction they're going? I don't know, but that
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Speaker 1: would make sense if you believe, Okay, we signed Camera
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Speaker 1: Robinson and you're taking a Quanta, people like what are
15:26
Speaker 1: they doing? That would be what they're doing. And uh,
15:30
Speaker 1: you know, there is a school of thought where you
15:32
Speaker 1: take your strength and make it the absolute strength and
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Speaker 1: then you build your offense around that. UM. I don't
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Speaker 1: know that's what I would do. I haven't been thinking
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Speaker 1: that way leading to the draft, but that makes sense
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Speaker 1: based on what you're hearing that if it was a
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Speaker 1: done deal defensive end, I think we'd have heard it
15:50
Speaker 1: was a done deal defensive end by now. I think
15:52
Speaker 1: it's still an option. So if a QUANTU is the guy,
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Speaker 1: and I feel like it would be a QUANTU over
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Speaker 1: Neel at this point just based on their reports, uh,
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Speaker 1: that would be the thought. And I don't think it's
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Speaker 1: a horrible thought. No, it isn't it. When you think
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Speaker 1: of Doug Peterson and you know he's an offensive line guy.
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Speaker 1: You know he's an offensive guy. You say that for
16:07
Speaker 1: a matter of fact. And I keep going back to
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Speaker 1: there's no we keep saying it, there's no home run
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Speaker 1: of this draft, and everyone says, well, yeah, but the
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Speaker 1: jag Wars won three games last year and they need
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Speaker 1: help right now. I hear that. I hear that side
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Speaker 1: of it, and I hear the defensive end argument for that.
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Speaker 1: But Trevor Lawrence, you have to pay him at some point.
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Speaker 1: This is your franchise guy, and if it means it's
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Speaker 1: not an immediate impact to draft on these offensive tackles,
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Speaker 1: but it pays off in three years, yeah, then it's
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Speaker 1: worth it. But I get the need to fix it
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Speaker 1: right now, right here and now. It's fine to say
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Speaker 1: fix it here and now. Uh. And it's fine for
16:38
Speaker 1: fans to talk about that, and it's fine for that
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Speaker 1: to be discussed in the draft room. But once you
16:42
Speaker 1: get on the clock for that number one pick, if
16:45
Speaker 1: you're Trent Balky, if you're Doug Peterson, if you're Shod Caught,
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Speaker 1: and everybody's putting their heads together, at some point during
16:50
Speaker 1: that conversation, there has to be a backup moment where
16:53
Speaker 1: they say, Okay, what are we doing here? What is
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Speaker 1: the big picture? Uh? What are we trying to get
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Speaker 1: out of this pick? What is the mission statement for
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Speaker 1: the pick? The mission statement is get the best guy
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Speaker 1: who you feel like it's going to be a franchise guy,
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Speaker 1: who is going to be a player that you can
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Speaker 1: build around. You know, there's not a lot of players
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Speaker 1: on this team right now where you think, okay, that
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Speaker 1: guy might be the best just position in the league
17:16
Speaker 1: in two or three years. There's Trevor Lawrence would fit that.
17:19
Speaker 1: You could foresee him being that. Josh Allen has that
17:23
Speaker 1: kind of ability on defense, he hasn't lived up to
17:26
Speaker 1: it yet, but he has that kind of ability. It's
17:28
Speaker 1: not unreasonable to think maybe he becomes that guy. Beyond that,
17:31
Speaker 1: there's not really that you need to make sure this
17:34
Speaker 1: number one pick has that feel to it and is
17:37
Speaker 1: a realistic guy who can be that in five or
17:39
Speaker 1: six years. Uh. It's hard in this day and age
17:42
Speaker 1: to say a guy is a ten year player because
17:44
Speaker 1: the league change is so fast. But conceptually, goal wise,
17:48
Speaker 1: that's what this guy needs to be. If they think
17:49
Speaker 1: it's an offensive lineman, there's a place where you can
17:51
Speaker 1: go fit. Bucky Brooks on the on the huddle up
17:54
Speaker 1: yesterday also made a good point. You can take a
17:58
Speaker 1: offensive alignment at number one and guarantee that he has
18:03
Speaker 1: a spot somewhere easier than you can perhaps in edge rush.
18:07
Speaker 1: For sure, you can move him around more. Now realistically,
18:10
Speaker 1: if you drafting edge rush, he's gonna have a spot.
18:12
Speaker 1: But his point was there are multiple ways you can
18:15
Speaker 1: use that guy. You know you're not gonna have that
18:17
Speaker 1: number one pick go to waste, and you know he's
18:19
Speaker 1: gonna be a productive player for you. So it's the line.
18:22
Speaker 1: The more you talk about the more you really examine it,
18:25
Speaker 1: still makes a lot of sense. And I was off
18:27
Speaker 1: that train for about three months, but I'm I'm back
18:29
Speaker 1: on the train. Slynn. Yeah. Well, I remember when we
18:31
Speaker 1: were at the Combine a couple of months ago and
18:32
Speaker 1: we were talking so much about offensive line and then
18:34
Speaker 1: they franchise tag Cam Robinson while we were at the
18:37
Speaker 1: Combine and everyone said, oh, well that's the end of that.
18:39
Speaker 1: Well we'll just leave that conversation. And truthfully, tray Von
18:42
Speaker 1: Walker because we left before those workouts, he really wasn't
18:45
Speaker 1: in the conversation at all. It was Evan Neil absolutely dominant.
18:48
Speaker 1: And then Aidan Hutchinson was the guy that you talked
18:50
Speaker 1: about after Cam Robinson got traded. So I always think
18:52
Speaker 1: it's funny to revisit what we always think at the combine,
18:55
Speaker 1: how it's incredibly wrong. Yeah, it's it's never that great
18:58
Speaker 1: to go back and listen to what you said about
19:01
Speaker 1: the draft two months ago, because it's you. It changes
19:04
Speaker 1: so fast and you're really in a learning curve at
19:06
Speaker 1: the Combine. So uh, we'll see, we will see all right.
19:11
Speaker 1: Coming up on Jaguars Drive Time, Brian Sexton is live
19:13
Speaker 1: from Las Vegas with all things Draft. Stay with us
19:16
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19:38
Speaker 1: first round of the NFL Draft is tomorrow. No secret
19:41
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have the number one overall picks, so Vegas
19:44
Speaker 1: is stirring about who the Jaguars are gonna take. We
19:47
Speaker 1: bring in our co host Brian Sexton now, who is
19:50
Speaker 1: live from Las Vegas landed last night. Brian, tell me
19:53
Speaker 1: what you have seen so far. Good morning, guys, it's uh,
19:58
Speaker 1: what are you saying about? Eight thirty out of here?
20:00
Speaker 1: The sun is coming up and it's bright and sunny
20:02
Speaker 1: and warm, and let's get your look at the Bellagio
20:05
Speaker 1: Fountain and the NFL Draft stage behind me. This place
20:09
Speaker 1: is Taylor made for the NFL Draft. I mean, I know,
20:12
Speaker 1: I said earlier this week if you just put it
20:13
Speaker 1: in Nashville, I'd be happy. But from the moment we
20:16
Speaker 1: got off the plane yesterday, Vegas has embraced this draft.
20:21
Speaker 1: And there were players typical of Vegas, right Aiden Hutchinson,
20:25
Speaker 1: Evan neil Um, Trent McDuffie, the corner from Washington who
20:30
Speaker 1: were holding courts in the middle of Las Vegas Airport
20:33
Speaker 1: with people are crowding all around. This place has certainly
20:37
Speaker 1: grabbed ahold of this thing. And dare I say it's
20:41
Speaker 1: it's Taylor made for it. And Brian tell us about
20:49
Speaker 1: that number one overall, Pick, I know you saw Hutchinson
20:51
Speaker 1: in the airport and we just saw the news about
20:53
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson in the new deal. Does that change anything
20:56
Speaker 1: for you? I know you're in a quantu guy, and
20:58
Speaker 1: we knew this deal was coming, But what do you think?
21:01
Speaker 1: It doesn't change anything as far as I'm concerned, Ashland.
21:04
Speaker 1: I heard John earlier and I'm in agreement with him.
21:08
Speaker 1: You're looking for the player that fits your team best
21:11
Speaker 1: at number one this year, it's either going to be
21:14
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman or an edge rusher. To my way
21:18
Speaker 1: of thinking, EA mcquannu is Quentin Nelson. So stop thinking
21:23
Speaker 1: about where he plays on the line and start looking
21:25
Speaker 1: at his talent. The guy is legitimately a Pro Bowl caliber,
21:29
Speaker 1: even All Pro caliber talent. Now does that guarantee he
21:32
Speaker 1: gets there? Well, no, it certainly doesn't. Where they put him,
21:36
Speaker 1: how they coach him, what they asked him to do.
21:39
Speaker 1: You're looking at number one, not for a right tackle
21:42
Speaker 1: or a left tackle. You're looking for the best player
21:45
Speaker 1: who fits your team. And to my way of thinking
21:48
Speaker 1: and my understanding is a lot of people in this
21:50
Speaker 1: league think Doug Peterson believes that a Quando is that
21:54
Speaker 1: guy as well. It's worth noting here, I was talking
21:57
Speaker 1: to some folks last night and no, do you assure
22:00
Speaker 1: of what's coming from Jacksonville. In fact, I had one
22:03
Speaker 1: guy say, oh, I heard about Trent Balky's agent who
22:06
Speaker 1: thinks this okay? Way A said, now, if that's the source,
22:09
Speaker 1: if that's where we're quoting, we're reaching way out there.
22:12
Speaker 1: Because all of you were with me last Friday when
22:14
Speaker 1: Doug Trent smiled and said their wives don't even know
22:17
Speaker 1: what they're doing. So there's a lot of intrigue at
22:20
Speaker 1: the top of this trap because the belief is that
22:22
Speaker 1: if the Jaguars take a Quantu, then is Hutchinson automatically
22:26
Speaker 1: going to Detroit. And there's this the school of thought
22:31
Speaker 1: that says that that's not guaranteed either as much as
22:34
Speaker 1: he fits them, that's not a guarantee either. Because guys
22:37
Speaker 1: like Derek Stingley, the corner from l s u um
22:42
Speaker 1: k Lavan fit Thibodeau, the pass rusher from Oregon, guys
22:46
Speaker 1: who have been hanging around, and people have been picking
22:48
Speaker 1: and poking and trying to find out where those guys
22:51
Speaker 1: fit the climbing right now, and their talent and their
22:54
Speaker 1: traits are starting to take precedence over what may have
22:57
Speaker 1: happened last year. And so don't be surprised if the
23:01
Speaker 1: Jaguars pick doesn't set in motion some surprising picks in
23:05
Speaker 1: the top ten, Bran, Is there any sense at all?
23:08
Speaker 1: I'm assuming not? Uh, is there any trade talk at all?
23:12
Speaker 1: Even in the top five. I'm assuming that the jagg
23:14
Speaker 1: was not gonna be able to trade, and that's sort
23:16
Speaker 1: of been a deal where it's been off the table
23:17
Speaker 1: for months. But is is there any talk that after
23:20
Speaker 1: the Jags there could be a trade involving the Giants,
23:25
Speaker 1: the Jets something along those lines. I think most people
23:28
Speaker 1: that I've talked to here believe that the first spot
23:30
Speaker 1: that might be up for grabs is the Jets at four.
23:34
Speaker 1: Beyond that, and that's because someone would want to come
23:36
Speaker 1: up to get the edge rusher. Thibodeau is a guy
23:38
Speaker 1: all of a sudden whose name has been connected there.
23:41
Speaker 1: And so if you want to get him, you're gonna
23:44
Speaker 1: have to get in front of the Giants, and the
23:45
Speaker 1: jet spot would come into motion. But in terms of
23:48
Speaker 1: one to three, John, you knows, we've talked about it.
23:51
Speaker 1: There are four or five offensive linemen that belong in
23:54
Speaker 1: the first round. There are four or five defensive linemen
23:57
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen. Teams don't have to pay what
24:00
Speaker 1: it costs to go up into the top five to
24:03
Speaker 1: get a player that can have a similar impact. There
24:06
Speaker 1: just aren't those extreme difference makers in this draft, and
24:10
Speaker 1: so really there's not a lot of trade talk at
24:12
Speaker 1: all until you got outside the top five. Start looking
24:14
Speaker 1: at what Carolina may or may not do. Is Atlanta
24:17
Speaker 1: a team with the pick at number eight that's in play.
24:19
Speaker 1: A lot of folks that I've talked to about here
24:21
Speaker 1: believe that's maybe the first spot where you see a
24:24
Speaker 1: team that's in love with the player. And Jordan Davis,
24:26
Speaker 1: the big defensive tackle from George's name, has been linked
24:30
Speaker 1: to that top ten now all of a sudden, because
24:32
Speaker 1: teams want to get in front of Baltimore and come
24:35
Speaker 1: up and get him. So I don't see anything in
24:37
Speaker 1: the top five. Based on the conversations I'm having with people,
24:40
Speaker 1: but don't be surprised if six, seven, and eight aren't
24:42
Speaker 1: in play. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, especially
24:45
Speaker 1: for Atlanta and Jordan Davis. So there are three of
24:48
Speaker 1: the four that we assume the Jaguars are picking number
24:50
Speaker 1: one overall in Vegas, and Trayvon Walker is the one
24:53
Speaker 1: that is not there. He is in Atlanta watching the draft. So, Brian,
24:56
Speaker 1: you are going to get to interview the number one
24:58
Speaker 1: overall pick. You will be the representation of the Jaguar.
25:01
Speaker 1: Is no pressure, and I know you are an a
25:03
Speaker 1: quantu guy. So if he's the number one overall pick,
25:06
Speaker 1: what are you asking him? Well, my first question is
25:10
Speaker 1: to see if maybe he could um sing a little bit.
25:12
Speaker 1: You know, he's singing both the base and tenor in
25:15
Speaker 1: the high school choir, and I'm sure his heart will
25:17
Speaker 1: be singing as he thinks I'm the number one overall pick.
25:20
Speaker 1: Let's see if his heart and his tongue can combine
25:22
Speaker 1: to sing a beautiful song for Jaguars fans. Hey, look,
25:25
Speaker 1: I think the guy is an absolute knock out of
25:30
Speaker 1: a player and a guy that if you add him
25:32
Speaker 1: to the offensive line, you've got a player who not
25:34
Speaker 1: only is really talented, but I think he's super safe.
25:37
Speaker 1: I think he's the kind of guy who can make
25:38
Speaker 1: things happen and be a long term fixture for your
25:41
Speaker 1: football team. So I mean, I just the smile on
25:44
Speaker 1: his face will say it all. Um. You know, if
25:46
Speaker 1: it's Travon Walker, we won't get to talk to him
25:47
Speaker 1: because he's not here. So we'd really like I'd like
25:50
Speaker 1: it to be a quantum selfishly, because I'd like to
25:52
Speaker 1: to let that joy come through our camera lens and
25:55
Speaker 1: through people's phones and uh enjoy the moment with the
25:58
Speaker 1: Jaguars first pick tonight. Hey, one more thing I want
26:00
Speaker 1: to share with you, and that is that there seems
26:02
Speaker 1: to be the school of thought that there's going to
26:04
Speaker 1: be a run on cornerbacks before there is a run
26:08
Speaker 1: on wide receivers. You're gonna see Stingley's name is shooting
26:12
Speaker 1: up the board. Trent McDuffie's name is all of a
26:14
Speaker 1: sudden being bandied about twelve thirteen. There is a limited
26:19
Speaker 1: number of impact corners, Day one corners in this draft,
26:23
Speaker 1: and there's some people here who think they're going to
26:25
Speaker 1: go faster than the receivers. So watch that development tomorrow night.
26:29
Speaker 1: Very interesting, Well, Brian Sexton, thank you so much for
26:32
Speaker 1: joining us from Vegas. It's a little early to go
26:34
Speaker 1: to the casino, and I know you're a little busy,
26:36
Speaker 1: but we hope you win money. I'm up already. I
26:40
Speaker 1: knew it's I knew I had faith in you. Brian,
26:42
Speaker 1: Thanks so much. We will talk to you tomorrow from
26:44
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. Have a lovely day you got, have
26:48
Speaker 1: a good morning, guys. See you much more to come
26:50
Speaker 1: here on Jaguars Drive Time. Stay with us for some
26:53
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27:47
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27:53
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27:59
Speaker 1: Come hang out with us. John, what do you have
28:01
Speaker 1: going on tomorrow, Well, I'll have draft coverage. I'll be
28:04
Speaker 1: on there with you guys as well. And you know,
28:07
Speaker 1: I know we're supposed to about coverage. Something Brian said
28:10
Speaker 1: was fascinating to me. If there's a run on corners,
28:13
Speaker 1: thinking about well, first of all, I'd be shot because
28:16
Speaker 1: we're in an era right now. We're the cornerback position.
28:19
Speaker 1: The league is trying to legislate defense off the field,
28:22
Speaker 1: so why not take receivers. But if there's that run
28:25
Speaker 1: on corners, then all of a sudden thirty three, which
28:27
Speaker 1: we're talking about on Friday during the draft, all of
28:30
Speaker 1: a sudden thirty three, does receiver come back into play?
28:32
Speaker 1: Does a couple of those guys get pushed back down?
28:34
Speaker 1: So I know coverage is sort of the thing. That's
28:37
Speaker 1: my coverage, So then I'll be writing about that, I'll
28:38
Speaker 1: be talking about that concept. But that you know, if
28:41
Speaker 1: there's a run, if two or three corners get into
28:43
Speaker 1: the first round that you're not expecting, then maybe a
28:45
Speaker 1: couple of those receivers that you assume will be out
28:48
Speaker 1: of the mix could come back into play a wide receiver.
28:50
Speaker 1: So food for thought, as they say, yeah, and we've
28:53
Speaker 1: talked about it really a lot a couple of weeks ago,
28:56
Speaker 1: was the thirty overall pick and possibly trading up to
28:58
Speaker 1: get that receiver. From what we've discussed, it doesn't seem
29:02
Speaker 1: like they're doing and I don't want to take that
29:03
Speaker 1: off the table, but it doesn't seem like that's a thought.
29:05
Speaker 1: And we always thought that was an awesome option. You
29:07
Speaker 1: have all this draft capital go up to if a
29:10
Speaker 1: receiver you like gets pushed down and gets into that range,
29:16
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, maybe you have a little
29:18
Speaker 1: bit more am a little bit a little bitter shot
29:20
Speaker 1: to do it. Uh, That would be fascinating to me.
29:23
Speaker 1: It was. We have so many fascinating things going on
29:25
Speaker 1: this week, very interesting. We'll stay with us on Jaguars
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29:30
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