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UK Column News — 23rd March 2026 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the twenty third of March
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, yoursel after one o'clock. Welcome to UK
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Speaker 1: Column News in the studio. Myself Brian Gerris, delighted to
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Speaker 1: have Ben Rubin with me.
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Speaker 2: Hello Ben, Hello Brian.
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Speaker 1: And we're also joined by Diane Rasmussen Rasmussen who will
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Speaker 1: be giving us a report on Finefi and the Finefie
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Speaker 1: Lady following the rejection of the appeal into the sentencing
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Speaker 1: of the for Nefie member of staff. We are also
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Speaker 1: delighted today to be joined by Dr Gary Sidley, retired
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Speaker 1: NHS clinical psychologists, and Gary's going to be making some
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Speaker 1: comment on what's been happening around the men enjoy to scare.
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Speaker 1: Really the backdrop for today's news, of course, is war, chaos, fear,
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Speaker 1: rumors of more war. It's all about scaring people and
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Speaker 1: we're going to try and cut through that. But the
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Speaker 1: important thing is today is six years to the day
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Speaker 1: since lockdown took place, and we thought there's no better
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Speaker 1: place to start than with the original UK Column report
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Speaker 1: on that very day.
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Speaker 2: Let's have listen.
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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Monday, the twenty third of March twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News
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Speaker 1: your homes today, Mike Robinson, myself Brian Gerrish, and we're
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Speaker 1: delighted to be joined by David Scott bringing us northern
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Speaker 1: exposure from north of the border. Are you three feet
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Speaker 1: away from me?
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Speaker 2: Possibly?
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Speaker 3: Maybe?
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Speaker 1: Yes, We're about as far away from each other as
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Speaker 1: we can get here in the studio. Naturally, we want
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Speaker 1: to follow government advice.
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Speaker 4: Well, let's just have a brief look at the list statistics.
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Speaker 4: Three hundred and fifty six hundred and forty six cases
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Speaker 4: worldwide of COVID nineteen. Deaths are up to fifteen thousand,
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Speaker 4: seven three hundred and seventeen sorry, and recoveries up to
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Speaker 4: over the one hundred thousand marks, So that's one hundred thousand,
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Speaker 4: three hundred and fifty four. There are still two hundred
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Speaker 4: and thirty four, nine hundred and seventy five active cases.
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Speaker 4: Of those, two hundred and twenty three thousand, seven hundred
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Speaker 4: and twenty seven are class is mild and eleven two
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Speaker 4: hundred and forty eight are classes serious or critical. Now,
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Speaker 4: today is a special day in the Houses of Parliament
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Speaker 4: because the Emergency Coronavirus Bill is going through. So if
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Speaker 4: we remember this is all about containing and slowing the virus, easing.
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Speaker 2: Legislative and regulatory.
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Speaker 4: Requirements, enhancing capacity and the flexible deployment of staff across
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Speaker 4: essential services, managing the deceased in the dignified way, and
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Speaker 4: supporting and protecting the public to do the right thing
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Speaker 4: and fallow public health advice. It's that last one that's
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Speaker 4: very nineteen eighty four like language. But anyway, well, there
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Speaker 4: we are.
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Speaker 1: The start is something really serious at the time, and
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Speaker 1: of course many people deeply affected by it, with some
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Speaker 1: tragedies amongst people who simply couldn't take the pressure. But
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Speaker 1: what is happening today, well, is meningitis as big a
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Speaker 1: an issue.
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Speaker 2: Not quite.
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Speaker 1: We are seeing things which clearly the public should pay
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Speaker 1: attention to. Let's have a look at a couple of
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Speaker 1: reports here. Thank you Dying for sending these through. Obviously
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Speaker 1: we've got the BBC what are the symptoms of meningitis
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Speaker 1: and how is it spread? But we've also got Devin
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Speaker 1: Live on the right there. UK Health and Security Agency
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Speaker 1: Meningitis be update after one hundred q in Kent for
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Speaker 1: the vaccine, and this is one of the key issues
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Speaker 1: that there's a constant talk about the number of people
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Speaker 1: who've by them being vaccinated for meningitis, or pressure to
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Speaker 1: get even more people vaccinated. And of course the outbreak
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Speaker 1: in Kent a lot of it centered around the university.
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Speaker 1: So second UK site reports student ill with suspected meningitis
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Speaker 1: not linked to the Kent outbreak. Now this is quite
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Speaker 1: an interesting position. Let's just have a look at a
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Speaker 1: very strange BBC report about meningitis.
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Speaker 5: The meningitis outbreak in Kent has been described as an unprecedented, explosive,
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Speaker 5: super spreader event. But at the same time we're being
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Speaker 5: told the risk of its spreading nationwide is low and
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Speaker 5: that this isn't another COVID. So how can both things
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Speaker 5: be true? This outbreak is highly unusual, you don't often
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Speaker 5: get such a high concentration of cases at one time,
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Speaker 5: and meningitis doesn't spread super easily. Sitting next to someone
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Speaker 5: on a bus, for example, isn't considered a risk. It
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Speaker 5: normally requires very close contact, such as kissing or sharing
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Speaker 5: drinks or vapes. Only in rare cases do people get
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Speaker 5: seriously ill with blood poisoning and brain inflammation. There's only
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Speaker 5: around three to four hundred of those cases every year.
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Speaker 5: It's why experts continue to say even for people in
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Speaker 5: Kent the risk continues to be very small. Compare that
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Speaker 5: to COVID when at the peak of the pandemic there
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Speaker 5: were tens of thousands of infections every day.
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Speaker 1: So masterful piece of BBC reporting there, which of course
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Speaker 1: you picked up on ben Can these things both be
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Speaker 1: true at the same time. Well, seems a bit well
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Speaker 1: believe there, but the BBC thinks they can pack them together.
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Speaker 1: Perhaps we'll pull that reporting apart just a moment, but
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Speaker 1: let's have a look at something more factually. This is
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Speaker 1: the NHS a view or meningitis and of course it's
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Speaker 1: got basic details a symptoms, causes, treatments, complications and of
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Speaker 1: course vaccination, but it talks about the meningitis outbreak and
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Speaker 1: what it's actually saying is that the risk of meningitis
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Speaker 1: outside of Kent remains low. If we go to the
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Speaker 1: security UK Health Security Agency menenjitis be outbreak. What you
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Speaker 1: need to know. I'll just hopefully scroll through a little
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Speaker 1: bit of this because you can see there's a lot
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Speaker 1: about meningitis, but you have to get into this report
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Speaker 1: before you can actually see the line where the risk
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Speaker 1: is low so I'm going to say the style of
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Speaker 1: reporting by this authority is very much to keep on
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Speaker 1: the fear factor people fear for get them onto vaccinations,
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Speaker 1: and almost nothing on the fact that the risk is
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Speaker 1: very low. If we get to the statistics on the
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Speaker 1: number of reports of cases, here's the UK Health and
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Speaker 1: Security Agency again notified cases of invasive men in gococle
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Speaker 1: disease and here it talks about the actual details and
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Speaker 1: we bring those up on screen. Twenty confirmed cases, nine
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Speaker 1: probable cases and two deaths. Now, before we bring our
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Speaker 1: guest onto comment, we're also going to play another historic
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Speaker 1: YouTube UK column clip where we were talking about lockdown
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Speaker 1: and the government's use of applied behavioral psychology through the
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Speaker 1: Behavioral Insights Team in order to ramp up fear. Let's
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Speaker 1: have a look at what we said at the time
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Speaker 1: and the desire to get those vaccines in and you've
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Speaker 1: just shown, Mike that they are still after getting Bill
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Speaker 1: Gates vaccines to everybody in the country before we're free.
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Speaker 1: But this is the bit we need to concentrate on.
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Speaker 1: The Scientific Advisory Group Emergency SAGE and what if we
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Speaker 1: got to report, Well, we were given two days ago
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Speaker 1: an internal document from SAGE, and let's have a look
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Speaker 1: at what it is talking about. It's dated the twenty
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Speaker 1: six of March twenty twenty. The headline is options for
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Speaker 1: increasing adherence to social distancing Measures. Question to be addressed,
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Speaker 1: what are the options for increasing that adherance? And the
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Speaker 1: paper addresses too distancing measures, general social distancing by everyone
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Speaker 1: and shielding vulnerable people for at least at least twelve weeks.
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Speaker 1: So there's part of your answer, Mike. It's clearly known
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Speaker 1: inside SAGE that they're not going to let elderly people
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Speaker 1: out of their homes. And this is the note at
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Speaker 1: the end of the document, so that people know we're
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Speaker 1: dealing in factual documents.
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Speaker 2: Here.
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Speaker 1: This paper was prepared by sage's Behavioral Science subgroup SBI
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Speaker 1: hyphen B for discussion at SAGE eighteen on the twenty
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Speaker 1: third of March. Now we've taken some damning excerpts out
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Speaker 1: of this document, but it's real, and my goodness, this
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Speaker 1: is so dangerous. So here's the government talking about persuasion
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Speaker 1: perceived threat. A substantial number of people do not feel
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Speaker 1: sufficiently personally threatened. It could be that they're reassured by
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Speaker 1: the low death rate in their demographic group. Although levels
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Speaker 1: of concern may be rising, and what does it go
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Speaker 1: on to say, they're in bold The perceived level of
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Speaker 1: personal threat needs to be quote increased amongst those who
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Speaker 1: are complacent using heard hitting emotional messaging. But look at
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Speaker 1: what it is saying down here. Use the media to
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Speaker 1: increase the sense of personal threat. Use the media to
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Speaker 1: make people fearful. And why do you do that? Well,
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Speaker 1: psychologists have been telling us all weekend. You do that
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Speaker 1: because when people are fearful and stressed, it is easier
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Speaker 1: to use applied behavioral psychology to get them to do
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Speaker 1: what you want. So that was part of our report.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to say we were bang on the money
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Speaker 1: with what we were talking about. Let's welcome out guest today. Gary,
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Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us.
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Speaker 6: My pleasure.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Gary. You've got thirty years experience clinical professional
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Speaker 1: managerial of dealing with adult mental health. You've published in
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Speaker 1: many adult health mental health publications. You've basically spoken out
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Speaker 1: against lockdown and talked about the dangers. How do you
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Speaker 1: see this reporting of this latest men enjoyters outbreak and
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Speaker 1: what are your concerns if you have any about it?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have concerns because I can see the striking
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Speaker 6: parallels between what we've been told over the last two
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Speaker 6: weeks around meningitis and what actually happened back in twenty
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Speaker 6: twenty with the COVID event. I was just thinking before
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Speaker 6: and there were several similarities. I think one that stands
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Speaker 6: out is the dress, rehearsal, the practice in the months
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Speaker 6: before the actual event. But back in the COVID era,
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Speaker 6: we had Event two or one, tabletop exercise carried out
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Speaker 6: by the John Hopkins Center along with the Gates Foundation
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Speaker 6: and the w F, the World Economic Forum that simulated
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Speaker 6: an outbreak of novel coronavirus. So this is guys getting
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Speaker 6: were getting together, a role playing and what would we
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Speaker 6: do in such an event that happened before the COVID
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Speaker 6: event back in October twenty nineteen and what we have
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Speaker 6: now much more recently last September to November twenty twenty
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Speaker 6: five Exercise Pegasus, where again a kind of rehearsal, a practice,
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Speaker 6: a tabletop exercise based on a novel enter virus from
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Speaker 6: some fictional island. This exercise led by the Department of
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Speaker 6: Health and Social Care in the UK Health Security Agency
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Speaker 6: even and even in the exercise. It talks about, you know,
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Speaker 6: we're going to simulate a situation in which this virus
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Speaker 6: usually mild in its effects, but can lead to serious
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Speaker 6: conditions such as many ingitis. So that things got a
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Speaker 6: pretty prominent sort of idea that that that meningitis was
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Speaker 6: on the minds of our public health experts at this time.
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Speaker 6: As for other similarities, I think you've already touched on them.
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Speaker 6: The fear mongering again much smaller scale with meningitis and
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Speaker 6: probably is a dead end. It probably will fizzle out
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Speaker 6: fingers crossed, But there's still been that attempt to promote fear.
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Speaker 6: You know, just the some of the language that's been
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Speaker 6: used around it. Unprecedented. It's surging numbers of cases on
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Speaker 6: the media in lockstep put out these alarmist images. It's
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Speaker 6: the misleading data again like we saw during the COVID event.
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Speaker 6: Uh back back in the COVID era, we are the
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Speaker 6: kind of death meter on the TV still with with
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Speaker 6: being on much smaller scale, we've got we've got the
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Speaker 6: meningitis fear. We've been talking about five more cases. Two
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Speaker 6: people have died. That's if this is really really significant now.
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Speaker 6: Of course, any death is tragic of course, but we
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Speaker 6: do have to look at these things in context. And
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Speaker 6: when you think that on average, sixteen hundred people die
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Speaker 6: every day in the UK, and the typical figure for
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Speaker 6: menyingitis over the last few decades has been around fifty
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Speaker 6: to fifty five fatalities per year, you we know many
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Speaker 6: giitis isn't a major threat compared to other things that
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Speaker 6: are going to show in our life. So we've had
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Speaker 6: the dress rehearsals. We add the fear mungering few nudges.
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Speaker 6: I'm sure most of your viewers will know what nudges are,
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Speaker 6: but form of psychological manipulation which acts on the target
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Speaker 6: without the target's awareness a lot of the time, so
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Speaker 6: they don't know there'd be an influence. As well as
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Speaker 6: the fearmongering other nudges, we've had ego, which plays on
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Speaker 6: the idea that human beings like to see themselves as virtuous, good,
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Speaker 6: decent human beings. So what the psychologists do, or what
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Speaker 6: the nudges do that be able as scientists do is
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Speaker 6: the equate following restrictions of following the guidance with being
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Speaker 6: a good person. We've seen elements of that with the
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Speaker 6: meningitis outbreak or play your part keep everybody safe, go
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Speaker 6: and get your jab you know, all playing into this
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Speaker 6: idea that if you don't follow that directive, you're somehow
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Speaker 6: not a good individual. Similarly, another nudge we call normative pressure,
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Speaker 6: to use the jargon term, which simply means that we
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Speaker 6: tend to go with the crowd. We like to be
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Speaker 6: in the majority, don't like to believe that we're in
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Speaker 6: a small minority. So seeing large cues of people lining
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Speaker 6: up to get the job or to get their their
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Speaker 6: anti bios, the antibiotics and stuff, uh, gives the message
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Speaker 6: that everybody else, you know, the majority are kind of
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Speaker 6: being sensible and pursuing this this way forward, which puts
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Speaker 6: pressure on others to join them. And scarcity nuts. The
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Speaker 6: last one I doesn't mention nothing another kind of weapon
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Speaker 6: in the the avil scientists toolbox, this idea, and I've
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Speaker 6: heard a few times with many geis already. You know,
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Speaker 6: pharmacists are running short of of of of antibiotics and
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Speaker 6: running short of of of vaccines. You know, students queue
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Speaker 6: trade is only to be disappointed because they know they've
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Speaker 6: run out of run out of the vaccine. That that
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Speaker 6: kind of thing. So it seems like in summary, it's
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Speaker 6: the same playbook as we saw during COVID, but bank
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Speaker 6: it just saying, as you've said, Brain, that it might
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Speaker 6: well fizzle out. Drawing back a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Now, Gary, if I just come back, thank you very
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Speaker 1: much for taking us through these points. A question which
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Speaker 1: I've always wanted to ask an NHS professional in psychology is,
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Speaker 1: of course, if you're if you're working in the NHS,
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Speaker 1: you should be there in order to help people, particularly
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Speaker 1: sick people, And here we see psychology being used in
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Speaker 1: a malicious political sense. Has this caused any sort of
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Speaker 1: backlash amongst qualified psychiatrists and clinical psychologists at all? Or
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Speaker 1: are you? Are you just one voice amongst all those people.
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Speaker 6: I'm certainly not one voice, but definitely in the minority.
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Speaker 6: And sadly, during the COVID event, a large majority of
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Speaker 6: the mental health profession rules endorse the dominant COVID narrative.
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Speaker 6: There were a number of us. Are not the only
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Speaker 6: one by any means, and some of them braver than me,
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Speaker 6: because at least I was retired in twenty twenty, there
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Speaker 6: were some other clinical psychologists who were speaking out against this,
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Speaker 6: who were still working on the front line, which was
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Speaker 6: a very brave thing to do back in the day.
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Speaker 1: Gary, thank you for that. Now you're going to be
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Speaker 1: joining us after the News for UK column Extra, so
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Speaker 1: we'll have a lot more time to talk. But just
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Speaker 1: what you've got the broad audience of UK column News
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Speaker 1: one advoice can you give people to stay mentally strong
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Speaker 1: and healthy when they're faced against very fearful, turbulent times.
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Speaker 6: Yes, there's a variety of things I think we can
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Speaker 6: do which collectively might make a difference. Switching off the
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Speaker 6: mainstream media might be a key one. Finding our own
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Speaker 6: tribes of like minded individuals to spend time with, getting
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Speaker 6: out in nature, getting away from the constant bombardments of
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Speaker 6: nudges and scary messages. I think they're the very basic things,
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Speaker 6: really brown. But that's the thing to do, and to
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Speaker 6: inform ourselves by reading more widely and just what fed
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Speaker 6: to us by the the BBC, Sky News etc.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, thank you very much for that. Well. I certainly
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Speaker 1: took the trouble in a really lovely sunny weekend to
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Speaker 1: get out into the garden do some work and to
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Speaker 1: clear my heads. And I'll just say that that does work.
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Speaker 1: And I think you were enjoying a little bit of
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Speaker 1: corlwell Bend was yes, great, Gary, thank you very much
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Speaker 1: for that, and as I say, thank you for joining
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Speaker 1: us in the UK column extra after today's news. So Ben,
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Speaker 1: where does that take us? All these things were occupying
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Speaker 1: people's minds, cunning plans are being developed.
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Speaker 2: Certainly our cunning plans being developed. Thank you for that.
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Speaker 2: That was fascinating to hear from an actual psychologist about
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Speaker 2: what's been going on. And we talk a lot about
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Speaker 2: the Behavioral Insights Team and the use of applied psychology,
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Speaker 2: neurolinguistic programming, weapons grade propaganda techniques against the British population,
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Speaker 2: and I think by its own government, by his own government,
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Speaker 2: funded by taxpayers. So we're paying to be propagandized and
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Speaker 2: psychologically abused basically by our own government. As a remarkable situation.
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Speaker 2: Some of it it's very subtle. I noticed the use
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Speaker 2: of the word super spreader in your BBC piece there.
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Speaker 2: That was a bit of a throwback to five or
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Speaker 2: six years ago. And a lot of this is, as
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Speaker 2: we've just heard about, nudging, So this is kind of
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Speaker 2: subtle psychological manipulation, little pushes to get you to comply.
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Speaker 2: But some of it is less subtle, and I always
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Speaker 2: throw back to images like this from that period of time. This,
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Speaker 2: how would you describe it, Like they're turning the NHS
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Speaker 2: into some kind of God type figure. Basically, it cannot
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Speaker 2: worship exactly to be worshiped, cannot be criticized. Is beyond
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Speaker 2: approach people that work within it as some kind of
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Speaker 2: special class hero that have to be held up. These
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Speaker 2: key workers who are fighting this virus. And you know,
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Speaker 2: this stuff going up all around the country is just
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Speaker 2: one example here.
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Speaker 1: And I'll just say, I believe that image that we
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Speaker 1: just had on screen, if it's possible to pop that
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Speaker 1: one back, isn't it based on US marines raising the
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Speaker 1: flag on Ewogma.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, this is a.
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Speaker 1: Very emotive wartime image which has now been transferred to
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Speaker 1: the NHS.
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Speaker 2: Exactly in the war against the virus. But was it
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Speaker 2: really all about a virus or was there something else
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Speaker 2: going on in the background? Because there were many people
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Speaker 2: in this society and further afield who are intent on
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Speaker 2: using this as an opportunity to rethink, re shape and
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Speaker 2: reset our world. Have a little listen to the zen print, Charles.
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Speaker 7: We have a golden opportunity to seize something good from
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Speaker 7: this crisis. Its unprecedented shockwaves may well make people more
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Speaker 7: receptive to big visions of change. A global crisis like
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Speaker 7: pandemics and climate change know no borders and highlight just
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Speaker 7: how interdependent we are as one people sharing one planet.
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Speaker 7: Over the past months or so, despite the ongoing crisis,
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Speaker 7: I've been encouraged to see the growing calls for a
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Speaker 7: green recovery. We need only look to the United Nations
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Speaker 7: Secretary General, to the IMF, the EU, There's Petersburg Climate Dialogue,
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Speaker 7: the Canadian government, the cop twenty six universities network, and business.
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Speaker 7: It is around the world to see this and as
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Speaker 7: we move from rescue to recovery. Therefore, we have a
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Speaker 7: unique but rapidly shrinking window of opportunity to learn lessons
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Speaker 7: and reset ourselves on a more sustainable path. It is
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Speaker 7: an opportunity we've never had before and may never have
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Speaker 7: a game, so we must use all the leaders we
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Speaker 7: have at our disposal, knowing that each and every one
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Speaker 7: of us has a vital role to play. Everything I
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Speaker 7: have tried to do an energy over the past fifty
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Speaker 7: years has been done with our children and grandchildren in mind.
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Speaker 7: So I can only encourage us all to think big
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Speaker 7: an Act now.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't mention the nations at all at once. No, it's
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Speaker 1: on a global basis, and.
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Speaker 2: Of course the King speaks yes, because this is about
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Speaker 2: reinforcing the interconnectedness of all people. Forget the nation's thing.
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Speaker 2: It's all about humanity is one integrated global community, this
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Speaker 2: being a goal and opportunity. Think about it, Brian, We're
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Speaker 2: going to shut down the whole world and this is
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Speaker 2: a goal and opportunity for us to do something different
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Speaker 2: and introducing this idea of pandemics and also importantly climate
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Speaker 2: change as global problems that required global solutions that have
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Speaker 2: no borders. And I think that this is an absolutely
24:21
Speaker 2: crucial component part of what has been embedded to us
24:24
Speaker 2: through this process. And of course he talks about the
24:26
Speaker 2: green recovery, and you'll know we talked about what was
24:29
Speaker 2: going on with the Commonwealth. In fact, the entire global
24:32
Speaker 2: technological transition has been presented as green and the initiation
24:37
Speaker 2: point for that was COVID nineteen and the Great Reset
24:41
Speaker 2: as launched by Prince Charles in November twenty twenty, coming
24:45
Speaker 2: up for six years ago and we're still living with
24:48
Speaker 2: it today and a lot of this is predicated on
24:51
Speaker 2: the introduction of new technological systems and twenty four to
24:56
Speaker 2: seven surveillance which only would have been able to into
25:00
Speaker 2: existence because of COVID. Let's have a little listen to
25:03
Speaker 2: you Al Noah Harari.
25:06
Speaker 8: And COVID is critical because this is what convinces people
25:12
Speaker 8: to accept to legitimize total biometric surveillance. If we want
25:18
Speaker 8: to stop this epidemic, we need not just to monitor people.
25:23
Speaker 8: We need to monitor what's happening under the skin. What
25:27
Speaker 8: we have seen so.
25:27
Speaker 9: Far its corporations and governments collecting data about where.
25:32
Speaker 10: We go, who we need, what movies we watch.
25:35
Speaker 9: The next phase is the surveillance going under our skin.
25:40
Speaker 9: Nons surveillance systems established even in democratic countries which previously
25:46
Speaker 9: rejected them. And we also see a change in the
25:49
Speaker 9: nature of surveillance. Previously surveillance was mainly above the skin.
25:55
Speaker 9: Now it's going under the skin. Governments want to know or.
26:00
Speaker 10: Not just where we go or who we met about all,
26:03
Speaker 10: they want to know what is happening under our skin,
26:07
Speaker 10: what's our body temperature, what's our blood pressure, what is
26:10
Speaker 10: our medical condition?
26:13
Speaker 2: Omnifotent, omniscient, very very dangerous, absolutely yes, describing indeed it
26:20
Speaker 2: is yeah, and essentially, that is the apparatus for a
26:24
Speaker 2: bio biosecurity state.
26:26
Speaker 1: Just ground our news today at this point, Ben I
26:30
Speaker 1: think as well. So while everybody at the moment is
26:32
Speaker 1: watching the horrors unfold in the Middle East with the
26:36
Speaker 1: war against Iran, we've got Ukraine war and war and war.
26:41
Speaker 1: While people's minds are occupied with this, this change of
26:45
Speaker 1: gender is bringing in this new surveillance society.
26:49
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and the technological infrastructure was initiated through COVID. Populations
26:56
Speaker 2: were forced essentially to accept this through COVID. He actually
26:59
Speaker 2: said there that these technologies had been rejected in democratic
27:03
Speaker 2: societies previously. Well, we'll just get rid of that, and
27:06
Speaker 2: it has to be brought in. It's an emergency and
27:10
Speaker 2: this needs to be importantly built not just by the state,
27:13
Speaker 2: but by international corporations who actually have the capabilities to
27:18
Speaker 2: do these things. So Palentig g It's spoken about a lot.
27:22
Speaker 2: There was an excellent segment on the News on Friday.
27:24
Speaker 2: If people haven't seen it, I'd suggest going to look
27:27
Speaker 2: at the section about halfway through the show with Basil
27:32
Speaker 2: and Haiko Ku, who has just set up a protest
27:36
Speaker 2: outside of the Palenteer office on Soho Square in central London,
27:41
Speaker 2: essentially seeking for the total removal of Parenteer from the
27:46
Speaker 2: UK government. I think this is absolutely something we should
27:48
Speaker 2: be pushing towards. But Palenteer was only introduced into UK
27:52
Speaker 2: government the first contractors I understand it. I'm pretty sure
27:55
Speaker 2: this is the case that they signed with the UK
27:57
Speaker 2: government was with the NHS almost exactly three years ago.
28:01
Speaker 2: I think it was later on this week, not three
28:03
Speaker 2: years sorry, six years ago almost It was in March
28:06
Speaker 2: twenty twenty and that was the introduction of Paneteer into
28:10
Speaker 2: the NHS in order to build and run the COVID
28:13
Speaker 2: Data Hub and working alongside a bunch of other big
28:17
Speaker 2: tech firms as well, which has put us into this
28:19
Speaker 2: position where essentially you have technology companies who are building
28:24
Speaker 2: data structures which is essentially your information, our information. This
28:28
Speaker 2: is all integrated available in the health system so that
28:31
Speaker 2: they can build computational models, projections about what they want
28:36
Speaker 2: the system to look like, how they want it to
28:38
Speaker 2: behave and this is how they see us ultimately interconnected
28:42
Speaker 2: component parts of a complex system that can be manipulated, tracked, traced, analyzed,
28:48
Speaker 2: where workflows can be adapted in real time so that
28:51
Speaker 2: people on the ground in the health service can have
28:53
Speaker 2: their behavior changed by someone and the computer terminal, and
28:57
Speaker 2: then this all integrates into a much broader technological ecosystem
29:02
Speaker 2: of technology companies and a paradigm where we're being managed
29:07
Speaker 2: by unelected bureaucrats and the adherence to completely fabricated targets
29:15
Speaker 2: like my favorite from that time. Do you remember the
29:18
Speaker 2: R number?
29:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I needed have a clip of that for the news.
29:22
Speaker 2: I've got one. Now I'm going to coming up, Brian.
29:24
Speaker 2: Let's have a little listen to this.
29:28
Speaker 11: The R number, also called are NOTT, tells us how
29:31
Speaker 11: many people someone with coronavirus will go on to infect.
29:35
Speaker 11: If the reproductive number is two, then one person will
29:38
Speaker 11: probably make two others sick. If it's three, then it
29:41
Speaker 11: will be around three without a cure or a vaccine.
29:45
Speaker 11: This our number guides every decision governments make to fight
29:49
Speaker 11: the pandemic. Before changes were brought in to reduce the
29:52
Speaker 11: spread of COVID nineteen, it's our number was between two
29:55
Speaker 11: and three, and that's why it spread so quickly. The
29:58
Speaker 11: aim is for it to be less than one and
30:00
Speaker 11: keep it there so health services can cope. But when
30:04
Speaker 11: are nought is less than one We can't just immediately
30:07
Speaker 11: switch back to how things used to be. That's because
30:10
Speaker 11: each restriction that's lifted makes the R number rise some
30:14
Speaker 11: more than others, and it's not clear how much. Also
30:17
Speaker 11: how restrictions are lifted exactly that can affect the our number.
30:20
Speaker 7: Two.
30:21
Speaker 11: Governments need to carefully balance the need to get countries
30:24
Speaker 11: and economies moving again while still keeping the public safe.
30:31
Speaker 1: Are they being honest?
30:33
Speaker 2: Are they being honest? That's a very good question, Brian, Yes, No,
30:40
Speaker 2: The short answer to which is I don't think so.
30:43
Speaker 2: I mean, and those some types of numbers are wide
30:48
Speaker 2: open to manipulation, not least because the R number itself
30:51
Speaker 2: was based on all of the testing that was coming
30:52
Speaker 2: out of the health system that we know was at
30:55
Speaker 2: best inaccurate, at worst probably for audulent, to be honest
31:01
Speaker 2: with you, a lot of it. But this is the
31:03
Speaker 2: world that we've been ushered into, the governance based on
31:08
Speaker 2: adherence to statistics coming out of technology platforms, the government
31:13
Speaker 2: and the government. Absolutely, But who will point to something
31:17
Speaker 2: like the AR number and say, oh, well, it's not
31:18
Speaker 2: really my decision. It's it's coming down because of the
31:23
Speaker 2: data and and and appeals to science and all that
31:26
Speaker 2: kind of thing. So this is the paradigm that we've
31:28
Speaker 2: moved into. You probably haven't heard about there number for
31:30
Speaker 2: quite some time because they stopped tracking it because we
31:32
Speaker 2: got the vaccine and what have you. And it wasn't
31:37
Speaker 2: just about importantly centralizing control and centralizing the administrative capacity
31:44
Speaker 2: of the state in order to exert an influence over
31:46
Speaker 2: every part of our lives. That was a big part
31:48
Speaker 2: of what was happening with these new technologies and artificial
31:50
Speaker 2: intelligence and that kind of thing. But also it ran
31:53
Speaker 2: deeper than that. And I've got another clip here of
31:57
Speaker 2: you'v ol Harari talking about the new paradigm of genomic
32:02
Speaker 2: medicine and genetic sequencing that was ushered in.
32:05
Speaker 12: At the same time, humans are developing even bigger powers
32:13
Speaker 12: than ever before. We are really acquiring divine powers of
32:18
Speaker 12: creation and destruction. We are really upgrading humans into gods.
32:23
Speaker 12: We are requiring, for instance, the power to re engineer life.
32:30
Speaker 2: We knew God's re engineering life. Exactly what these people
32:34
Speaker 2: think they're doing, and that a lot of that is
32:36
Speaker 2: centered around this organization, which is part of the NHS
32:39
Speaker 2: Genomics England Center of an Ecosystem, a biotechnology logical industry
32:45
Speaker 2: is what they describe it, where the human genetic code
32:47
Speaker 2: is the raw material. Genomics England are at the forefront
32:50
Speaker 2: of this, but they're part of a much wider network
32:54
Speaker 2: of linked companies and government assets, and there is an
33:00
Speaker 2: enormous risk to this. First of all, we don't want
33:02
Speaker 2: people genetically engineering us if we can avoid it, but
33:06
Speaker 2: also because this data is extremely sensitive and it's already
33:10
Speaker 2: going missing all across the Internet. So just last week
33:13
Speaker 2: this example popped up of uk Biobank, which is a
33:18
Speaker 2: research database operating out of the UK within the NHS system,
33:24
Speaker 2: has been inadvertently publishing huge amounts of extraordinarily sensitive patient
33:30
Speaker 2: data onto GitHub, just going up onto the Internet, and
33:34
Speaker 2: in fact they were just in the second half of
33:37
Speaker 2: last year eighty separate incidents where uk Biobank was having
33:41
Speaker 2: to reach out to GitHub to ask them to remove
33:44
Speaker 2: sensitive information that, according to this Guardian article, was actually
33:49
Speaker 2: with a couple of The integration with a couple of
33:52
Speaker 2: other data points was extremely easy to work out who
33:55
Speaker 2: these individuals were, and it had all of their genetic codes,
33:59
Speaker 2: their their medical history, all the interactions they'd had with
34:02
Speaker 2: the health service over an extended period of time. And
34:06
Speaker 2: this i was just lying around on the Internet, and
34:08
Speaker 2: maybe we expect this from the government, but the thing
34:10
Speaker 2: about uk Biobank is that it was actually joint backs
34:13
Speaker 2: between the government and Amazon Web Services and Eric Schmidt, interestingly,
34:19
Speaker 2: from former CEO of Google, also a steering committee member
34:23
Speaker 2: at the Builderberg meetings, who co funded this. And you
34:28
Speaker 2: would expect people like that to have a better track
34:30
Speaker 2: record when it comes to dat's security, but apparently not.
34:33
Speaker 2: Apparently they're just not interested in it. It's not a
34:35
Speaker 2: priority for them as far as I can tell. So anyway,
34:38
Speaker 2: not much to be proud of here in terms of
34:42
Speaker 2: the national response to the COVID scenario, although there was
34:45
Speaker 2: one person who was very proud. Let's have a little
34:48
Speaker 2: listen to Matt Hancock.
34:51
Speaker 13: Quite emotional by that.
34:53
Speaker 14: It's just it's been you know, it's been such a
34:56
Speaker 14: tough year for so many people, and there's William Jakespea
35:00
Speaker 14: pretty simply for everybody that you know, we can get
35:04
Speaker 14: on with our lives, and you know, there's still a
35:07
Speaker 14: few months ago.
35:08
Speaker 15: I've still got this worry that we can't blow it now, Piers.
35:12
Speaker 15: We've still got to get the vaccine to millions of people,
35:16
Speaker 15: and so we've got to keep sticking by the rules.
35:19
Speaker 15: But it's just, you know, there's so much work gone
35:22
Speaker 15: into this and I'm really, really it makes it proud
35:24
Speaker 15: to be British.
35:27
Speaker 2: So ruddy proud.
35:30
Speaker 1: It's truly horrible to see it after all this time
35:32
Speaker 1: with a hindsight of what actually went on. Despicable man,
35:36
Speaker 1: absolutely despicable extra.
35:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's too that, but I will just close up
35:42
Speaker 2: by pointing out that what he was proud of delivered
35:44
Speaker 2: these outcomes. So this is the MHR Yellow Card important scheme.
35:48
Speaker 2: You can see at least one point six million adverse reactions,
35:52
Speaker 2: at least two and a half thousand deaths. Those numbers
35:55
Speaker 2: are probably underreported by a factor of tens of potentially
35:58
Speaker 2: even a hundred times. You know, this is absolute death
36:02
Speaker 2: and destruction coming out of the health system itself. And
36:05
Speaker 2: then one chart which I got from a heart group
36:08
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty three. I think this was basically
36:10
Speaker 2: showing excess deaths from twenty twenty at the top down
36:14
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty three at the bottom, from zero years
36:17
Speaker 2: old on the left up to eighty five plus on
36:19
Speaker 2: the right hand side, And essentially what you're looking at
36:21
Speaker 2: is concentrations of excess deaths. Red is bad, green is good,
36:27
Speaker 2: Black is the worst. And the way I track this
36:29
Speaker 2: is madazulam vaccines and booster shots coming in and I
36:33
Speaker 2: think this is what Matt Hancock's legacy is and what
36:36
Speaker 2: he has to be proud of.
36:38
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, let's leave that there, get on to some
36:42
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37:16
Speaker 1: germ warfare, symbolism. He'll be talking about symbolism in the
37:21
Speaker 1: Harry Potter world. Let's just have a look at this
37:24
Speaker 1: little clip.
37:30
Speaker 16: You have Harry who he's what he starts off in
37:35
Speaker 16: story he's even years old and he finds out that
37:39
Speaker 16: a wizard Acuille his parents, Lord Vaudemont.
37:43
Speaker 17: Whether it's can either turn into or produce as a patonist,
37:48
Speaker 17: which is a light form for their protection, and he
37:54
Speaker 17: has the patoners of a stag. So the Wesley family
37:59
Speaker 17: is a symbol of different hard qualities. So he symbolizes
38:03
Speaker 17: the heart and the being staying true, staying true to
38:07
Speaker 17: who you are in your heart.
38:11
Speaker 16: You have Dumbledore, who's the wise and kind headmaster.
38:15
Speaker 17: His patronis is a phoenix, and a phoenix is a
38:19
Speaker 17: symbol for the consciousness beyond, beyond time and space. So
38:27
Speaker 17: the actually the unity consciousness.
38:29
Speaker 16: So each character corresponds to a certain aspect of spirituality. Ultimately,
38:37
Speaker 16: it's about the fall of human consciousness to the ego.
38:47
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a very interesting discussion. Remember,
38:50
Speaker 1: of course, Harry Potter pushed out to get into the
38:52
Speaker 1: minds of as many young children as possible, and a
38:56
Speaker 1: lot of parents pushing out Harry Potter films and store
39:00
Speaker 1: is without really understanding the darkness that's behind it. I
39:04
Speaker 1: shall be interested to join German that discussion now tonight
39:10
Speaker 1: at nine pm. We've also got Silk and Steel, and
39:15
Speaker 1: this is Carl's are having a look at why Trump's
39:18
Speaker 1: i Ral War is America's twenty first century Vietnam and
39:22
Speaker 1: worse and possibly worse, and that's with Aina Tangan, senior
39:26
Speaker 1: fellow at CIGI, So do join that one. And I'd
39:31
Speaker 1: also like to remind people that tomorrow at one o'clock
39:34
Speaker 1: we've got Diane's into interview with Bonnie Wallace fighting the
39:38
Speaker 1: spiritual Battle for Children's Innocence, and this is going to
39:44
Speaker 1: be another very important discussion because of course it's clear
39:47
Speaker 1: that government absolutely wants to target the minds of children,
39:52
Speaker 1: as do many of the globalist bodies and non government
39:57
Speaker 1: organizations that you speak about. Then well, we've also got
40:03
Speaker 1: something else coming up, which is this is a picture Paints,
40:06
Speaker 1: which is Jake, who's been doing great work. I have
40:09
Speaker 1: been in the dentist's chair with Jake. This is a
40:13
Speaker 1: little taste to clip because this will be coming out
40:17
Speaker 1: very soon. Let's just have a look.
40:20
Speaker 18: We have a very special treat this week on a
40:22
Speaker 18: Thousand Words when we sit down with the man himself,
40:24
Speaker 18: Brian Gerrish.
40:25
Speaker 1: And then the thing where it started to get very
40:28
Speaker 1: interesting and last year, for the first time ever I
40:32
Speaker 1: decided to talk publicly about it was when I started
40:36
Speaker 1: to experience information being given to me which then led
40:42
Speaker 1: to me having an interaction with an amazing lady in Cornwall.
40:46
Speaker 1: You need to be careful, Brian, because you're poking a
40:49
Speaker 1: stick into some pretty heavy stuff.
40:51
Speaker 18: Here is extraordinary story. Joined the Chat Live Sunday seven pm.
40:57
Speaker 1: So that's seven pm Sunday, the twenty eighth of March,
41:01
Speaker 1: and you can get a taste for what it's like
41:04
Speaker 1: to be in that chair. Now, where does that take
41:09
Speaker 1: us to? Diane, Welcome to the too Today's news. You've
41:13
Speaker 1: been staying alongside the finefee ladies up in Scotland. The
41:17
Speaker 1: appeals just been taking place over the sentencing at the
41:21
Speaker 1: elderly member of staff and that appeals been turned down
41:25
Speaker 1: and the women are in a tough place. What have
41:29
Speaker 1: you got for us?
41:32
Speaker 13: Yes, sir, Thanks Brian and hello everyone. It's great to
41:34
Speaker 13: be here today. Unfortunately I have to update the audience
41:38
Speaker 13: who has maybe E've been following the Finetti case along
41:40
Speaker 13: with you, K Carlem and we've been with these women
41:42
Speaker 13: for I guess going on three years now. As you
41:45
Speaker 13: can see the interviews that we conducted back in December
41:49
Speaker 13: where the women discussed with Brian and I that there
41:52
Speaker 13: were eighteen out of twenty five guilty verdicts for Patricia
41:55
Speaker 13: Robertson or Baxter, who was the one surviving a teacher
41:59
Speaker 13: from Fernetti resident School who they were able to find
42:02
Speaker 13: and prosecute, which was good news at first for the
42:04
Speaker 13: women where they thought, Okay, we'll finally get some justice
42:07
Speaker 13: for the abuse that we suffered at Fineti Residential School
42:11
Speaker 13: over a period of over thirty years up in rural Scotland. However,
42:15
Speaker 13: what happened after this was not the best. Basically, the
42:19
Speaker 13: sentencing which I attended one day of the trial with
42:21
Speaker 13: the witnesses testifying as well as the sentencing day, the
42:26
Speaker 13: judge who gave the sentence to Patritioner Robertson first really
42:31
Speaker 13: condemned her for the horrible things that she did. He
42:33
Speaker 13: accused her of what he called cruel and a natural treatment,
42:37
Speaker 13: not going so far as to call it child abuse
42:39
Speaker 13: or sexual abuse, things the more serious charges. So she
42:43
Speaker 13: was found guilty of eighteen of twenty five charges. The
42:46
Speaker 13: other seven were not proven according to Scottish law, and
42:50
Speaker 13: the sentencing was basically she got probation for supervision for
42:54
Speaker 13: three years and she was ordered to pay compensation of
42:57
Speaker 13: one thousand pounds each to each survivor of the eighteen
43:00
Speaker 13: that received the charge of guilty and she was not
43:04
Speaker 13: allowed to leave her house for twelve months between three
43:07
Speaker 13: pm at midnight. I remember this is a seventy seven
43:10
Speaker 13: year old woman. So following that sentencing, of course, the
43:14
Speaker 13: women were very angry, which we covered on UK column
43:17
Speaker 13: on our the long interviews that we had back in
43:20
Speaker 13: December which aired earlier this year. Please take a look
43:23
Speaker 13: at those. It is quite long, but very insightful in
43:26
Speaker 13: terms of listening to the women as well as the
43:29
Speaker 13: reflective conversation that Brian and I had as a result
43:32
Speaker 13: of all of this work. So now if we go
43:35
Speaker 13: into the mainstream media coverage of what happened last week,
43:38
Speaker 13: which is, as Brian said, the appeal that has been withdrawn.
43:42
Speaker 13: We don't really know why. STV reported that basically the
43:47
Speaker 13: spokesperson and we don't have any official evidence from this
43:50
Speaker 13: yet that we have been able to find from the Crown,
43:53
Speaker 13: but a spokesperson from the Crown Office said quote, Following
43:57
Speaker 13: careful consideration by specialist lawyers, the Crown has decided to
44:00
Speaker 13: withdraw the unduly lenient sentence appeal that was previously lodged.
44:05
Speaker 13: We have spoken to those involved about the decision and
44:07
Speaker 13: we'll make ourselves available to answer any further questions they have.
44:11
Speaker 13: Now I want to go into the conversations that I
44:14
Speaker 13: had with some of the survivors who have been speaking
44:16
Speaker 13: with us over the last few days. Last Thursday on
44:19
Speaker 13: UK Column, we had an interview that aired with Brian
44:22
Speaker 13: and Carol White, who was one of our abuse survivors.
44:25
Speaker 13: So Carol was one of the women I got up
44:27
Speaker 13: with over the weekend asking her what she thought about
44:30
Speaker 13: this with raw the appeal. So here's a short clip
44:32
Speaker 13: from the interview that I had with Carol.
44:36
Speaker 19: Now, it's quite disappointing on that she's not going to prison.
44:42
Speaker 19: The initial disappointment came from the sentence in but when
44:47
Speaker 19: we thought that it was going to go for an appeal,
44:51
Speaker 19: you thought there was going to be a second chance
44:53
Speaker 19: of her being sentenced, and now it's happened again. It's
45:00
Speaker 19: just been another disappointment.
45:08
Speaker 13: So we had a long discussion and hopefully these will
45:11
Speaker 13: be available on UK Column at a later date that
45:13
Speaker 13: we can hear the full extent of what she shared,
45:15
Speaker 13: as she had a very powerful interview of course with
45:18
Speaker 13: you Brian last week talking about the story of social
45:20
Speaker 13: services taking away two of her five children for several years.
45:25
Speaker 13: So we can go on from here to look at
45:27
Speaker 13: some of the other Finetti survivors who have been working
45:29
Speaker 13: with us. The women sent me this over the weekend.
45:32
Speaker 13: This is the Daily Record, a Scottish mainstream newspaper featuring
45:36
Speaker 13: Sharon Cruden, with the word devastated in large letters at
45:39
Speaker 13: the top of the article. As we can see there
45:42
Speaker 13: on screen. Hopefully people can see that the quality of
45:45
Speaker 13: the photos the best we could get to quote. One
45:49
Speaker 13: of the things that Sharon said to the Daily Record
45:52
Speaker 13: is quote I'm devastated and disgusted that the Crown Office
45:55
Speaker 13: has abandoned this appeal. She was found guilty of eighteen
45:58
Speaker 13: charges against children in her CAUs, yet will never see
46:01
Speaker 13: a prison cell. It's a slap in the face for
46:03
Speaker 13: survivors of FERNETI. And it certainly is Margaret, who was
46:07
Speaker 13: another one of the women who has been interviewed by
46:10
Speaker 13: us in the past and is on the long interview
46:12
Speaker 13: that I mentioned from January, she said, quote she got
46:16
Speaker 13: away with us lightly. Obviously. What does this say about
46:19
Speaker 13: the justice system. Looks like they are protecting their perpetrators
46:23
Speaker 13: and not the victims because of her age. They went
46:26
Speaker 13: on a past case. It should have been focused on
46:28
Speaker 13: this individual case. This doesn't encourage historical abuse victims to
46:32
Speaker 13: come forward in the future. I am absolutely gutted. So
46:37
Speaker 13: I have here a video clip of when I got
46:39
Speaker 13: together with a few of the other FINETI survivors yesterday
46:43
Speaker 13: for another longer conversation. And this is just a short
46:46
Speaker 13: clip that I would like to discuss. This features the
46:49
Speaker 13: women that have been out with us previously. This is
46:52
Speaker 13: with Lynn Sheeran, Annie Gray, Kelly Fox and Jean Purney
46:56
Speaker 13: with me in conversation.
46:57
Speaker 20: See on the what jurisdiction that they can pull that appeal?
47:04
Speaker 13: Why?
47:06
Speaker 20: I mean, what's the reason for it? Because we haven't
47:08
Speaker 20: been told nothing. Nothing they're telling us left in the newspapers,
47:13
Speaker 20: they're reporting on the paper, they're reporting on ne SCV,
47:15
Speaker 20: nows they're reporting and ave other newspaper media that we
47:19
Speaker 20: have all been told. Why we know nothing? Do you
47:24
Speaker 20: know what I mean? The same as I mean we
47:26
Speaker 20: don't know what we're going to get for Christmas this year.
47:28
Speaker 20: It's the exact same. We know why that appeal was
47:31
Speaker 20: spout it Yep, we want to know m hm. Because
47:35
Speaker 20: it's not done a thing. You'll get a right to know, absolutely,
47:38
Speaker 20: one hundred percent two percent. It's the whole thing is
47:41
Speaker 20: just one big cover up, but we've got to uncover up.
47:45
Speaker 13: Mm hmm.
47:46
Speaker 21: And and the other thing I've heard through Sharon Cruden,
47:49
Speaker 21: who is another lady of course I've been working with
47:52
Speaker 21: who's not here on the call, that nobody has received
47:55
Speaker 21: the ridiculous thousand pounds that you're supposed to get us
47:59
Speaker 21: camp and say that nobody's even heard anything about it,
48:03
Speaker 21: which again, you know, what does it mean in terms
48:06
Speaker 21: of the sentencing if she's not even being required to
48:09
Speaker 21: pay and I think they gave her a limited amount
48:12
Speaker 21: of time to pay it, didn't she didn't. It was like, well, yeah,
48:17
Speaker 21: must be needle to buy.
48:18
Speaker 22: Now.
48:19
Speaker 20: What we saw was she's either no paid that, refusing
48:23
Speaker 20: to pay it, or she's asked for more time, which
48:26
Speaker 20: means she can pay installments and she can pay like
48:29
Speaker 20: only a fraction after benefits every week or every month
48:33
Speaker 20: whenever she gets them. So she could basically say to
48:35
Speaker 20: it in, oh, I can only get you one hundred
48:38
Speaker 20: and eighty pounds a month, ten pounds a month per person.
48:41
Speaker 22: Sorry for button in, but that was too cold for
48:43
Speaker 22: her savings. Sorry, but that should at the court. That's
48:47
Speaker 22: what her savings were. Yeah, so they were coming out
48:50
Speaker 22: that money was coming out a savings. It wasn'ty coming
48:52
Speaker 22: out to our benefit. I was supposed to be coming
48:55
Speaker 22: out of her savings and she had three months to
48:57
Speaker 22: pay it. I might get somebody had says to me,
49:00
Speaker 22: I don't know who it was, that it might have
49:02
Speaker 22: been kind of put back a bit because obviously there
49:05
Speaker 22: was appeal in it.
49:07
Speaker 21: Everysin was suspended because of the appeal. Yeah.
49:14
Speaker 13: So what we're seeing here, of course, is, as they said,
49:18
Speaker 13: the thousand pounds compensation that was due to each of
49:21
Speaker 13: the eighteen survivors is not being paid yet despite having
49:25
Speaker 13: sort of passed that time limit. Now we see that
49:28
Speaker 13: they were told nothing about this decision to withdraw the
49:31
Speaker 13: appeal for still unknown reasons, despite the being stream media
49:34
Speaker 13: reporting everywhere that they were supposed to have been told already,
49:38
Speaker 13: but they already didn't know until they saw it in
49:40
Speaker 13: the news. And this has all been a result of
49:43
Speaker 13: the delaying of the appeal. And now the appeal has
49:45
Speaker 13: been withdrawn. So the women have absolutely no idea at
49:48
Speaker 13: all whatsoever where things are going to go from here.
49:51
Speaker 13: So just a couple of other quotes to close the
49:54
Speaker 13: segment up, Brian, So here's the more women that we
49:57
Speaker 13: have talked with in the past. This is Rona Hargan
49:59
Speaker 13: who said, quote, I'm discussed with the disgusted with the
50:02
Speaker 13: appeal being withdrawn. People will think it's a waste of
50:05
Speaker 13: time because they just get away with it. I've lost
50:07
Speaker 13: faith in the justice system. And Carol Robertson, who's been
50:11
Speaker 13: with us in the past, said not shocked, as the
50:13
Speaker 13: whole system is corrupt. So what we've seen here is
50:17
Speaker 13: a lot of ups and downs for these women. They've
50:19
Speaker 13: worked so hard over the years, been through a lot,
50:21
Speaker 13: reliving the trauma, fighting everything they can, thinking they will
50:24
Speaker 13: fight the system and are continuing to do so. But
50:26
Speaker 13: they are starting to see as a result of all
50:29
Speaker 13: this that the mainstream media is working against them, that
50:31
Speaker 13: the system is corrupt, that the courts are doing what
50:34
Speaker 13: they can to promote this massive cover up. And of
50:37
Speaker 13: course this was systemic abuse. This was not just the
50:40
Speaker 13: one teacher. This was something that happened over the period
50:43
Speaker 13: of thirty years under the establishment, and the women are
50:46
Speaker 13: starting to see that. And while they're obviously very angry
50:49
Speaker 13: for very good reasons. I also think that one of
50:51
Speaker 13: the things is that they will continue to fight and
50:53
Speaker 13: fight harder. So just to close this as well to
50:57
Speaker 13: direct the audience to all of our reporting that we've
50:59
Speaker 13: been doing for the past few years and for Netti
51:01
Speaker 13: Residential School. We do have a separate page for this
51:05
Speaker 13: on our up Carlumn website and the link to that
51:07
Speaker 13: will be in the show notes.
51:09
Speaker 1: Thanks Brian, Diane, thank you very much for that. And
51:12
Speaker 1: of course we say to the audience that we've been
51:14
Speaker 1: working with the for Nethi ladies now for years and
51:17
Speaker 1: we're going to stay supporting them in their journey past
51:21
Speaker 1: this appeal. I think there's a lot more fight in
51:24
Speaker 1: them and it's going to be interesting to see what comes. Now,
51:27
Speaker 1: let's just reflect for Nethie over the thirty odd years
51:32
Speaker 1: it was running roughly two thousand, maybe more girls a
51:35
Speaker 1: year going through, so we're talking about potentially thousands and
51:39
Speaker 1: thousands of little girls damage from abuse in Scotland. But
51:43
Speaker 1: it's clear the Scottish state doesn't want to pick up
51:46
Speaker 1: on that. We've got Epstein with the abuse of children,
51:51
Speaker 1: young girls, young women and that is being pushed into
51:55
Speaker 1: the long grafts under the events, particularly with the war
51:58
Speaker 1: against Iran. So this is another very high level cover up.
52:03
Speaker 1: It appears every direction we turn ben the state does
52:07
Speaker 1: not want to get near the subject of the abuse
52:10
Speaker 1: of children, unless it's the stamp grooming gangs on it,
52:13
Speaker 1: in which case they're very happy to broadcast that worldwise.
52:20
Speaker 2: Indeed, yes, and it's historical, so as you're talking about
52:24
Speaker 2: things that happened thirty plus years ago, but it's going
52:27
Speaker 2: on right now. Another inexplicit, inexplicable sentence being handed down
52:31
Speaker 2: last week to the former labor counselor, Learn Velleman, who
52:38
Speaker 2: was caught up in a sing operation sending inappropriate images
52:42
Speaker 2: to what he thought was a thirteen year old girl,
52:45
Speaker 2: but actually he was sending them to an undercover police officer.
52:48
Speaker 2: This is a particular interest to us here at UK
52:51
Speaker 2: Colin because mister Vellman, as well as being a former
52:53
Speaker 2: labor counselor, is also or was an employee I hope
52:58
Speaker 2: not hate lovely charitable organization that doesn't like the UK
53:05
Speaker 2: column calls us Nazis constantly. He was also in rocked
53:09
Speaker 2: in writing the Online Safety Act, which is supposed to
53:11
Speaker 2: be about protecting children online. So it seems a slight
53:15
Speaker 2: conflicts of interest there. Interestingly, this chap the Ragged Trousered
53:19
Speaker 2: philanderer on X went to challenge Vellamann in the pub
53:25
Speaker 2: after the sentence. The suspended sentence was handed down, so
53:33
Speaker 2: obviously he wasn't taken to prison as he probably should
53:36
Speaker 2: have been. He was in the pub having a drink
53:38
Speaker 2: with his parents. And that doesn't really seem like justice,
53:41
Speaker 2: doesn't it. This is the world we're living in right now.
53:44
Speaker 1: It seems to be part of the course. Thank you
53:46
Speaker 1: for that, Ben. Now we've finished the news today with
53:50
Speaker 1: just having another look really at the chaos and mayhem
53:53
Speaker 1: which is unfolding around us, and this is served with
53:57
Speaker 1: a large dose of propaganda. We need to see through this.
54:01
Speaker 1: We need to stay calm in order to deal with
54:05
Speaker 1: what's being thrown at us. But if we have a
54:08
Speaker 1: look at some of the headlines, we've got a lot
54:10
Speaker 1: on the war. Trump raises stakes in the war with Iran.
54:14
Speaker 1: Iran vows to target water sites if the US hits
54:18
Speaker 1: power plants, so Iran is definitely not done for as
54:22
Speaker 1: Trump would have us believe. Then we've got this sort
54:25
Speaker 1: of headline, Britain is safe from it. RAN's long range missiles,
54:30
Speaker 1: So says the minister, we've got this one. Why did
54:34
Speaker 1: the PM keep the public in the dark for thirty
54:36
Speaker 1: hours after the JAOS strike. This is where Iran launched
54:40
Speaker 1: a couple of ballistic missiles. So a lot being said
54:45
Speaker 1: here in the media. What is the undertone of this, Well,
54:48
Speaker 1: it's war, chaos, confusion, and particularly fear, because if we
54:53
Speaker 1: are fearful, we can be controlled. But the headlines today
54:57
Speaker 1: go on. So we've got fear over fuel prices. We'll
55:02
Speaker 1: send the price of oil soaring, vows Iran. So oil
55:06
Speaker 1: shortage is being pushed across as an imminent, real threat
55:10
Speaker 1: for the nation and we should be very concerned about that.
55:14
Speaker 1: And then, of course, on the top of that, we've
55:17
Speaker 1: got the request here, which I've labeled save us. So
55:21
Speaker 1: this is the union saying that the government and big
55:25
Speaker 1: business and the trades union themselves should come together in
55:29
Speaker 1: a COVID style operation in order to save everybody from
55:34
Speaker 1: the mayhem which the state says has been unleashed. It
55:38
Speaker 1: goes on because we've got a different style here because
55:41
Speaker 1: under us in Iran ramping up the threats. We're back
55:45
Speaker 1: on the subject of rubber boats and migrants remember that
55:49
Speaker 1: the people coming in boats are a very very small
55:53
Speaker 1: proportion of the number of people coming through permitted migration,
55:58
Speaker 1: but we are told to be fearful of the people
56:00
Speaker 1: in the boats. This is all about creating division. And
56:04
Speaker 1: then of course in relation to migrants, we've got this
56:07
Speaker 1: sort of headline which is all designed to bring in
56:11
Speaker 1: the fear. This is a propaganda operation. It's an attack
56:15
Speaker 1: against the population in this country. And we've mentioned for
56:19
Speaker 1: Nephi and the abuse of children. The Mirror the only
56:24
Speaker 1: newspaper covering anything to do with Epstein, and you will
56:27
Speaker 1: see that basically the message is the only thing worth
56:30
Speaker 1: talking about in relation to Epstein is Andrew Epstein. Therefore
56:35
Speaker 1: equals and that's moving into the long grass. The sun
56:41
Speaker 1: was on something different because this was talking about the
56:46
Speaker 1: death of Huntley in prison. I've labeled it called callous
56:50
Speaker 1: humanity because if we think about this, whatever crime an
56:54
Speaker 1: individual carries out, once they go into prison, they are
56:58
Speaker 1: under the protection of wider society and the state. And
57:02
Speaker 1: of course he was failed in prison, but he's treated
57:07
Speaker 1: as if he's a piece of meat, even though of
57:11
Speaker 1: course he's committed where he had committed tenious crimes. So
57:15
Speaker 1: think about the message that these newspapers are putting across.
57:19
Speaker 1: Nothing about love and compassion. This is about hating your
57:23
Speaker 1: fellow human being, and in that hate and division, these
57:28
Speaker 1: globalist plans can come in. As you've been describing. The
57:32
Speaker 1: last one is simply mind numbing dross. At the Star
57:36
Speaker 1: tend it like Beckham, this is complete rubbish. The only
57:40
Speaker 1: thing you should be using this paper for is to
57:42
Speaker 1: light the fire. They'll be putting a stop to that soon.
57:45
Speaker 1: Let's come back to the headline on power plea to
57:48
Speaker 1: stop job crisis. I singled this one out because this
57:53
Speaker 1: is more or less the clamor for the government to
57:56
Speaker 1: save us. But look at the language being used, and
58:00
Speaker 1: leaders are demanding a government task force is set up
58:03
Speaker 1: to protect Britain from the effects of America's war against Iran.
58:10
Speaker 1: The TUC says it should join employers and white all
58:13
Speaker 1: officials to work on contingency plans as energy prices rise.
58:18
Speaker 1: Again there's the underlying fear factor, and it goes on
58:21
Speaker 1: to say the national urgent and collaborative approach would show
58:26
Speaker 1: that the country has learned the lessons of the COVID pandemic. Then,
58:31
Speaker 1: and finally, let's bring that in when government, industry and
58:36
Speaker 1: unions work together on furlough schemes, workplace health and public
58:41
Speaker 1: service planning. So COVID was a great thing. And the
58:45
Speaker 1: unions here saying, under the banner of the fear and
58:50
Speaker 1: the mayhem over the war against Iran, we should bring
58:53
Speaker 1: the same things in. Let's have another look at the
58:57
Speaker 1: historic clip from UK column where we were warning about
59:01
Speaker 1: the maneuvering of deep state policy under the fear factor banner.
59:08
Speaker 1: Now let's jump back to last Monday, when UK Column
59:12
Speaker 1: had an exclusive whistleblower at pretty high level in Westminster
59:18
Speaker 1: had told us that the whole thing about lockdown is
59:21
Speaker 1: that the government did not want to release lockdown because
59:26
Speaker 1: whilst the population are locked up, it gave the government
59:29
Speaker 1: the opportunity to repurpose government. So it was an extraordinary
59:35
Speaker 1: lockdown was seen as extraordinary opportunity not to reopen fifty
59:40
Speaker 1: to sixty percent of what each company does. And then
59:44
Speaker 1: it said, so why reopen schools, care homesqual fire power stations.
59:48
Speaker 1: Don't reopen any of them. They are garbage there, yesterday's technology,
59:53
Speaker 1: they're polluting, their toxic, they're badly organized. You don't reopen them.
59:59
Speaker 1: And the individual went on to say that if huge
1:00:02
Speaker 1: amounts of money was to be brought to bear two
1:00:05
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty billion pounds, increasing debt by seven times,
1:00:10
Speaker 1: it was pointless reopening all the old stuff. Now was
1:00:14
Speaker 1: the time to quote reinvent society. So it was true
1:00:21
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, it's been true since. It's true today
1:00:24
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, under the froth of the fear
1:00:29
Speaker 1: and the pressure and the confusion and the chaos, we
1:00:32
Speaker 1: are seeing the implementation of globalist policies to change UK.
1:00:37
Speaker 1: So if you can understand what you see happening around you,
1:00:40
Speaker 1: all the policies coming out of whether it's conservatives or labor,
1:00:45
Speaker 1: the government or the civil service, try thinking in terms
1:00:50
Speaker 1: that we are being attacked by our own government. We'll
1:00:53
Speaker 1: leave that segment there. You're going to take us into
1:00:57
Speaker 1: a clue.
1:00:58
Speaker 2: We're going to warm the hearts the end. Yes, Because
1:01:01
Speaker 2: as fear and division and societal breakdown is the message
1:01:04
Speaker 2: coming from on high, there are actually amazing stories of
1:01:10
Speaker 2: people really loving and getting along with each other all
1:01:13
Speaker 2: over the place, and in particular this week there's a
1:01:16
Speaker 2: big march coming up on Saturday in London, with the
1:01:20
Speaker 2: underlying theme essentially being the British people English people who
1:01:24
Speaker 2: are inherently racist, can't be trusted, need to be managed
1:01:27
Speaker 2: by the government and frankly it's not true. We can
1:01:30
Speaker 2: all get along. And I just love this video about
1:01:34
Speaker 2: Ian Wright, the former Premiership footballer and mister Pigden so
1:01:39
Speaker 2: a little watch.
1:01:44
Speaker 16: Ian still the highest scoring striker ever to play for Arsenal,
1:01:47
Speaker 16: and he owes a lot to the man who first
1:01:49
Speaker 16: taught him to kick a ball, his old school teacher,
1:01:52
Speaker 16: Sid Pigden as.
1:01:54
Speaker 3: I haven't seen him for what twenty three twenty four years,
1:01:58
Speaker 3: so he would now be expecting me to be six
1:02:01
Speaker 3: feet under. I would think, I don't actually think it
1:02:05
Speaker 3: probably won't recognize because you won't believe it's me.
1:02:12
Speaker 13: Hello, are you.
1:02:15
Speaker 2: Long time?
1:02:15
Speaker 1: No?
1:02:16
Speaker 23: See it's a figure. You're alive. I'm alive, he says,
1:02:25
Speaker 23: how are you doing?
1:02:29
Speaker 5: I can't believe if someone says it was good.
1:02:35
Speaker 3: As you say, I'm very patient and I'm so glad
1:02:40
Speaker 3: you've done so well with yourself.
1:02:45
Speaker 6: He was so.
1:02:47
Speaker 24: Supportive all the time. He kind of like had me
1:02:51
Speaker 24: as he's kind of like a special guy.
1:02:59
Speaker 13: What does he ah?
1:03:04
Speaker 24: I can't believe it. I can't believe it. You know,
1:03:06
Speaker 24: now I realize how important he was in my life,
1:03:10
Speaker 24: the first main imposing figure, male figure in my life
1:03:16
Speaker 24: who was trying to guide me on the right road.
1:03:19
Speaker 3: How far we're going back there.
1:03:23
Speaker 24: Anyway, Hey, thirty two years.
1:03:30
Speaker 1: So if we're left alone, we can get on. I
1:03:32
Speaker 1: think we can get on the message. If the government
1:03:35
Speaker 1: would stop attacking us, we could probably do extremely well
1:03:39
Speaker 1: with all the people if again this country at the moment.
1:03:42
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. That is. I love that little snapshot of it.
1:03:46
Speaker 2: Anytime anyone says that white people or the English wherever
1:03:50
Speaker 2: it might be an inherently racist, showing them that clip
1:03:53
Speaker 2: because it's just not true. And also, you know, we
1:03:55
Speaker 2: hear a lot of talk about toxic masculinity. That was
1:03:59
Speaker 2: non just masculinity. Yeah, that was that was. That was wonderful.
1:04:03
Speaker 2: And I particularly like that clip because it also it
1:04:05
Speaker 2: reminds me of my granddad. Mister Pigdom reminds me of
1:04:08
Speaker 2: my granddad. Just an old fashioned fella, London fella. And
1:04:12
Speaker 2: actually today it's a four years to the day from
1:04:16
Speaker 2: when he left us at the age of one hundred.
1:04:19
Speaker 2: He's pretty good going. He is good going. He got
1:04:22
Speaker 2: his telegram from the Queen and then he popped his
1:04:25
Speaker 2: clogs within weeks and so there he is on the
1:04:28
Speaker 2: right hand side, and I couldn't we couldn't go and
1:04:33
Speaker 2: see him because of COVID, because of all the travel restrictions,
1:04:37
Speaker 2: because we were we weren't jabbs, so we weren't able
1:04:40
Speaker 2: to go and see him. And it was just the
1:04:42
Speaker 2: most the worst thing for me actually about that whole
1:04:45
Speaker 2: period of time, has not been able to see my granddad.
1:04:47
Speaker 2: But my uncle, bless him, did manage to get over
1:04:50
Speaker 2: there and send us lots of photos like this and
1:04:52
Speaker 2: we had lots of lovely calls and chats with him.
1:04:55
Speaker 2: And I'll just show you a couple more pictures quickly
1:04:57
Speaker 2: because I've got your attention now. That's Lennard. He's an
1:05:00
Speaker 2: old soldier. He was a desert rat in Northern Africa
1:05:04
Speaker 2: under Montgomery and he joined the army and when he
1:05:07
Speaker 2: was sixty and there he is. He always had a
1:05:09
Speaker 2: smile on his face. Yeah, brilliant memory, Yeah exactly. So
1:05:12
Speaker 2: God bless you, Grandad, And it's a shame we didn't
1:05:15
Speaker 2: get to see you, but those were the times we
1:05:17
Speaker 2: were living in. Hopefully they don't come back again.
1:05:19
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1:05:49
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1:05:52
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1:05:56
Speaker 1: British public. But that's the clues of today's column News.
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