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Bill Seals on the Cyclones Sweet 16 run & women falling in Round 1, NCAA Tournament observations & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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I'm Millory Condon, welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Trent and Ken with you until 2:00.
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A lot of folks been calling during the break wanting on the
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show we're going to. We got nothing planned after
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Bill Seals. You want to chime in and you can
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wait until 1:30 or thereabouts. We would be happy to hear from
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you at that time as we got nothing until Trent's plays of
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the day and there are not a lot of games tonight.
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How did you do betting wise this weekend?
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Saturday was OK, the Thursday, Friday was really good.
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Yesterday was a disaster. I got pummeled.
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About the only thing I got right was Iowa.
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That was one in. I got a live line.
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Iowa State, they had cut it to 12:20 to 12:00.
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I got them plus 176. I got them, but I was originally
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on Kentucky. Still with the juice made a
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little bit back. But yeah, Saturday, Sunday
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night, great. Thursday, Friday was pretty good
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overall as we're treading water. But it's OK because you know
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what, I would pay all for my gambling losses here recently to
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have what we saw now for us in this, these two chairs to get
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Iowa and Iowa State in a Sweet 16 potentially leave.
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Finally, you're on the air. And finally, maybe training
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about even more. It's unreal.
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I would gladly RIP up and light a match to the all the future
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tickets I have that don't say Iowa and Iowa State on right,
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right. Gladly do that.
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Here's Bill Seals, He's back from Saint Louis.
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When did you get home? Bill Seals, good to talk to you.
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Good to talk to you guys actually on the way as we speak
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here on the road. So navigating up through
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Southeast Iowa towards home and going to recharge for a couple
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days and head towards Chicago on Wednesday.
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Nice. I don't think that this will be
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presented to the media. Will you guys get an opportunity
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to talk to TJ or anybody tomorrow or will that have to
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wait until Wednesday? It'll be the team's arrival in
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Chicago on Wednesday at the team hotel after they get in, similar
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to what it was like in in Kansas City.
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And then just this past, well, Wednesday, yeah, Wednesday it
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was in Saint Louis. We'll get him on Wednesday in
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Chicago. So nothing, we won't know
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anything about Jefferson, whether the how the MRI turned
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out until Wednesday. Do you think that's going to be
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the case? Yeah, I, I've been in touch with
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the, the, the media contact at Iowa State and they do not
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anticipate releasing any kind of statement on his status.
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So I I think publicly we won't know until Wednesday when the
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team arrives. Good stuff.
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Well, let's talk about the game. Truly the the start couldn't
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have been any worse for Iowa State.
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What was the turn around in your mind?
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Was there one play I go back to the 90 seconds or so left in the
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first half Iowa State still down.
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I think it was 7 at the time. Manchilovich had a had a threw
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up A2 pointer didn't go battle underneath the boards.
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First of all Manchilovich gets his hands on it, then they then
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a cat got his hand. Toure eventually got it to
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Manchilovich, stepped back, He cut it to four.
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I thought that was maybe as big of a basket before halftime and
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ultimately they were going to half, what with the lead.
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But I thought that was a huge basket at the time, Bill.
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Yeah, I think it, I think it was too.
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It gave the the team already, I think the way that first half
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played out, even even with the myths there, I think they would
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have gone into the break with some semblance of confidence
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just because, you know, I I would even go back earlier than
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that. That game was kind of teetering
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on on being full-fledged disaster Allah, you know, Ole
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myths from last year in the round of 32.
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It was kind of teetering on the brink of that.
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But you know, this team really buckled down again, as we say
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every time it you know, it started on the defensive side of
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the floor. You know, Kentucky open just
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shooting so well and raining in threes.
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You know, eventually that kind of reverted to the mean and Iowa
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State, I think and picked up the defensive intensity started
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turning them over, getting getting on some some runs, you
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know, another I think a double digit run there and and you
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know, they were able to get back into the game.
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I goes 20 to 9 was the score there early on, if I, my memory
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serves me correctly, about 11 1/2 minutes, I believe it was.
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And they went on that 11 O run to draw even.
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And I think that was just so crucial because that thing
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again, it was teetering on disaster at that point.
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They were able to get that double digit run, get back, draw
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even. And then obviously the high Z3
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they they go on another run too, by the way to end the the first
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half and the high Z3 gives them the lead.
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You know, as they say, the rest is history.
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They just came out and it was a 50, I think 5133.
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The margin in the second-half just just blew him out.
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Dominant performance. We want to get the crowd
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perspective down there in Saint Louis because Kentucky travels
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as well as anybody in college basketball and Kentucky not real
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far from Saint Louis either. Initially when the game started,
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all you could really see was Cyclone Red and is like, oh boy.
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But then you heard that Kentucky crowd.
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They must have been on the other side of the court from where the
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camera was. What was the break breakdown
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percentage wise you would estimate between Cyclone and
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Wildcat fans? You know, I think that Kentucky
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actually had them outnumbered. You know, we had we had talked
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about this on on press row and I I thought maybe about 5545 ish
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range. Well, and then you sprinkle in
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the six or seven Hawkeye fans that were.
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In attendance. Too, But you know, anyway, 5545,
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I think probably Kentucky had that one.
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But I'll tell you what the Iowa State fans, they made all the
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noise and you know, even with the start that Kentucky got off
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to got off to and the the reactions from the Wildcat fans,
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I still think it's just out just dwarfed by the the Iowa State,
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you know, reaction to getting back in the game.
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And then just the the second-half.
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Many reasons to make a lot of noise.
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We've talked a ton here in the last week and a half, I guess is
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all it is. Killian Torre looks like a
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completely different guy offensively than the guy that we
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saw for, I don't know, six weeks before.
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January. February.
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Yeah, just a completely different guy.
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He's engaged, he's aggressive, he's looking for a shot at
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different times. He's not scared to take the open
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shot. What was it?
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Is there anything you can point to, anything that he answered?
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Because this guy looks completely different on that end
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of the floor. Well, I think you could probably
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trace it back to him hitting that first shot against Arizona
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in, in Kansas City. It seems like the the light came
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on with that shot, the confidence built and and you
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throughout that game, he was hunting his shot.
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It wasn't just, you know, him. Sometimes it seemed like he
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maybe settled for a, for a A3 pointer.
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You know, he would hunt his shot.
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He'd get to the elbow. It'd take that what that 15
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footer and he's not afraid to take it to the rack more.
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He's rebounding great, dishing it around.
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I think he's doing just a tremendous job right now and
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what what can't be at a better time.
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You know, he had what was it, 21 points, I think in that first
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game against Tennessee State had another solid game yesterday, a
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little bit of a scare there in the the second-half when he went
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down. He was out cold by the way, too.
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Yes, yes, he was out cold. And you know, they got him.
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They got him up, got him going to the locker room.
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You know, he goes into the tunnel.
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They they assess them real quick, regathers himself and
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he's in the huddle. They, you know, they go to like
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immediate time out there. And by the time they're playing
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again, he's back standing around the huddle.
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So just a remarkable that turn there, you know, he goes down,
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he's out cold. And it's like, my goodness, you
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know what? What else is going to happen?
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And already down a starter in Jefferson.
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But yeah, I mean, he's he's really become a factor on this
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team. And, and along with him and
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Heisi, they're going to, they're going to need him going forward.
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Yeah, that's that's for sure. By the way, you had a lot of
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FaceTime this last couple of days.
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Bill Sill, you and Hutchins and a couple of the other Iowa State
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media members right there pressed for some good FaceTime.
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So I want to ask you about Jefferson because obviously
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you're in the locker room after the after the game going back to
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what, Friday and then again yesterday.
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Was there a difference in his attitude from, you know, when it
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when it first happened to the reality that was probably not
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going to play on Sunday? And then when you talk to him
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after the game last night, did you do you sense a change as far
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as availability? Obviously you're not a trained
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medical professional by any means, but was he in a different
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frame of mind, maybe more optimistic when you spoke to him
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after last night then when he was the night of the injury?
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Probably I would say about the same, but that is Josh Joshua's
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already just a pretty mild mannered guy doesn't get real
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high, doesn't get low. I think he's excited about the
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team and and where they're at right now.
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I think if I tweeted out a picture yesterday of, of, of,
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you know, team sitting down and Josh is at the end of the bench.
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He's standing up hollering at the team, you know, rooting them
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on. He's very engaged.
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And I think he's just excited they're into this second weekend
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of the tournament. But, you know, again, he got
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that MRI at 11 AM this morning. And I can imagine those close
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around the, you know, the training staff, the coaching
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staff probably have a pretty good idea right now how his
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status is going to be for this week.
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You know, I think it is a pop positive that you know, if that
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MRI was a was a good result and they play Friday like that last
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possible time slot, I think play on Friday 9:10.
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So you know, they've got the benefit of that.
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You know, they're not playing at 11:30 AM on Thursday, it'll be
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910 on Friday. So they've got the benefit of
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that. And I think if, if the MRI bears
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good news, then they'll, you know, they'll continue that
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rehab process and you know, Josh in the world and those guys and
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they'll try and get him ready to go.
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We also I think need to mention Dom Nelson and came in against
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Tennessee State after the injury went down, gave him some good
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minutes. He was productive.
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He was engaged for a guy that just certainly has not played
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nearly as much as I'm sure he anticipated when it started.
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I mean, you go back to the beginning of the year and their
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first seven games he was playing double digit minutes.
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And then obviously we know that that change to stay engaged, to
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be a good teammate, to not sulk, I think that says a lot about
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Dom Nelson, the guy that very well could need again coming up
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this week. Yeah, he admitted that in the
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the locker room after the Tennessee State game that if he
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would have mailed it in, the results probably would not have
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been as good for him there against Tennessee State.
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Probably would have been a quick entrance and a quick exit if he
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just wasn't showing to be engaged.
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But I think he's he, you know, he stuck it out.
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Not the most ideal of circumstances, but you know what
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he he came from Utah Valley to Iowa State and he's playing in
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the NCAA tournament into the second weekend.
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He's getting playing time. I think he's given him a jolt
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off the bench, You know, And how about that effort, though,
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against Tennessee State? We were kind of, we were kind of
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chuckling that, you know, on the course of one game, he raised
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his free throw shooting percentage, 6 percentage point.
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He goes 5 for five at the line. It was up to 62%.
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So, yeah, I mean, that good, good stuff for him down in Saint
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Louis. And, you know, again, I I think
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it's it's pretty clear this Iowa State team, they're going to
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play small ball from here on out.
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I wondered maybe if it would be more Eric Mulder yesterday to
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match up more with Kentucky's size.
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But I think it's apparent this team's going to play small ball.
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So that means you're going to get more Dominic Nelson minutes
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probably than Mulder minutes at this point unless there's foul
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trouble. I think any of those big men.
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So Nelson, you know, this is not a one or A2 shot deal down in
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Saint Louis. I think they're going to need
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him this weekend in Chicago. And then they come off the bench
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and you know, there's a guy right there he can get at will.
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It seems like he can get the ball to the rack.
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And if he can knock down those free throws, that's going to be
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huge. No doubt about it.
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Well, what do you know about Tennessee?
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If you watched them play this year, obviously is was they
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meant our amant? How do you say the freshman, the
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610? Amen.
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Was he a McDonald's All American?
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And what do you know about Tennessee?
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Obviously, Gillespie is the one guy most people know on that
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roster, but what do you know about the Vols?
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You know, I don't know a whole lot right now, Kenny.
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I'll, I'll dig into that a little more.
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But yeah, I think you're right. Gillespie and Nada Mint, those
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are the two leading scorers, 18.4 for for Gillespie, you
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know, he seems to kind of be that scoring guy for them.
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He's Lipsy, you know, Nada Mint. Yes, yes, yes.
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And then Nada Mint, he's at almost 17, but you know, he's a
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stat sheet stuff and kind of guy.
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He's active on the offensive board a little, almost 6 1/2 per
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game there. This is the ball out well.
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And then you know, and as you mentioned, Gillespie, that
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Lipsy, that seems to be an app comparison there.
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But you know, a couple guys right there.
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I think for Iowa State to certainly to focus on.
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And then you just again, you saw with Tennessee, they came out,
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they shot the lights out early, kind of reverted back to the
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mean. And I think again with this
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Tennessee team, Iowa, the state will sell out to stopping a
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couple of those key guys like they tried to with away and and
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let the others beat them. They did beat them early.
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I mean, I think probably a similar story against Tennessee.
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You know who Iowa State's going to go after.
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So I think it'll be incumbent against, not some other guys to
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step up and hit some shots in that game.
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You mentioned offensive rebounding and they.
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They lead the country, right? Number one, how about this of
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misses that they have on the offensive end.
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They get 44.8% of the rebounds available.
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That is big obviously. And if Jefferson's not able to
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go, that definitely changes the equation.
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The good news, they also turned it over and it gets us Iowa
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State defense. Bill, does it feel different?
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We we've been here before, we've been to Sweet Sixteens.
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Does does this one feel different to you than some of
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the past years? Well, you know, I, I, if, if
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they have a healthy Jefferson, I would say 100% yes.
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But I just, I, I, I just, I don't know how that's going to
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going to work out. He's not going to be 100%.
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I think the rest of the way. That's a given.
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But if they can get him out there and yeah, I, I think they,
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they did against Kentucky. I, I thought that they did a
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great job rebounding the ball against them first full game
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without Jefferson. They out rebounded the Wildcats
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by one in that game. And obviously you mentioned the
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turnovers with Tennessee. They turned Kentucky over 20
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times in that game. That was the most all season.
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I think I had seen a nugget out there too.
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It was the most turnovers by Kentucky in an NCAA tournament
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game since 93. So and and they're going to
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they're going to have to I mean you you mentioned what a force
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Tennessee is on the offensive glass.
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I would imagine that probably is going to hurt Iowa State at some
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some junctures of that game on Friday.
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But if Iowa State can can again, they they're going to play small
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ball if they can get out, turn this team over, get into
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transition. I think they had 25 points off
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of those turnovers yesterday. That was a factor in that game
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and they're going to have to do it again on Friday.
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No doubt about it. And then if they do get to pass
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them, they get the winner of Alabama, Michigan, Alabama.
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They make their threes, they're probably going to advance, but
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if when they don't, they're going to get destroyed.
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They're easy. That's an easy match.
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I mean, Bill, it just seems like I don't want to get ahead of
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myself. It's a, it's a great path for
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Iowa State, Bill to get to Indianapolis.
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I mean, I I don't want to get ahead of myself, but it seems
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like it's not crazy to think like that.
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It really isn't. And even and it's it's it's
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funny that we're we're we're talking like this even with
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Jefferson status kind of being up in the air.
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But you're right. You know Michigan A-Team very
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much. Well then Jefferson hasn't been
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declared out all season yet, but you know, Michigan down.
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You said yeah, you said yeah. Do you expect that?
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Yeah, Well, I don't, I don't, I don't know.
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I think we're probably, we're going to know a lot more on
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Wednesday. I think, to be honest, we're
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going to have an idea. And if he can't go this weekend,
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you got to wonder if it's probably for good.
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But yeah, I think we'll get a better, better case scenario on
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on Wednesday on that. But yeah, I mean, again, though,
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Michigan down a down a guy. Alabama obviously down a guy as
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well. And it seems like adversity
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strikes for a lot of these teams.
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Iowa State's not exclusive in that category.
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And you know, maybe the outlook a little rosier for ISU with
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Jefferson still maybe being a possibility to go.
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Bill wanted to jump over to the women's side of things and did
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not go nearly as well as it did for the men as they fall in
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their first game against Syracuse. 89 matchup and didn't
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get their opportunity against UConn cause Syracuse got him 30
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points given up in the second quarter.
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That's rough regardless of way you put it.
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A lot of grumbling I noticed from a lot of that going on.
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I'm sure you're seated on the message board over there as
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well. Bill, take us in a little bit.
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In a disappointing end, what a lot of people believe coming
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into this year was going to be Bill Fennelly's best.
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Team up 10 preseason. They lose in the first round.
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Yeah, I mean, it just seems like the the the wheels really came
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off for for them down the stretch.
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Yeah. They were playing such good
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basketball that, you know, they get Addie Brown back.
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You think, well, this is, you know, this is really going to
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put them into that, that next, next tier, next category.
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And it didn't she didn't shoot the ball.
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Well, you know, in Iowa State just again, outside of Audie
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Crooks, just not enough consistency.
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Kenzie Hare didn't give them. I think that the the the
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production that they had hoped for for her coming off of that
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injury and they just they didn't shoot the ball well from the
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outside. And it'll Bill Fenley in his
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postgame press or afterwards. The first to admit it.
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You know, Syracuse is the team that is a simple, it's a simple
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game sometimes. And and Syracuse made its shots
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from out there. Iowa State didn't.
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They just didn't get any production outside of what Audie
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was able to give them. And and yeah, I mean, that's
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kind of the the difference in the game.
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No doubt about it, Bill Seals, cyclonereport.com,
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cyclonereport.com for all Bill Seals.
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Great work, Bill. We in all likelihood are going
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to impose on you again at some point prior to prior to tip off
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on Friday night. You'll get there on Wednesday.
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So we'll be in touch. Bill, Thanks for what you do for
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us. cyclonereport.com for Bill. Thanks, Bill. 1.
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Yeah, good to talk to you drive safe as he makes his way back
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from Saint Louis. Sounds like most of the IO state
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media stayed down there in Saint Louis.
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Probably a good idea, right? Absolutely.
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Get an extra day out of it. Yeah, have a little fun.
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Heck yeah, have a little dinner. I wanted to ask Elliot, when do
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you think or kayaker, do you think they packed for the
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weekend or packed for what night?
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I'm sure they packed what? Did their plane?
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What did their plane tickets say?
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Their returns? Would you have?
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Would you have? Gambled because of Clemson.
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That match up. I think everybody liked that
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match up, yeah. You.
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Thought you were going to be there through the weekend?
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And they were, and they've got another trip to pack.
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For and I'm sure it's a lot cheaper coming back Monday as
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opposed to Spring Breakers coming back on Sunday.
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Yes, yes, absolutely. So that's a great point.
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Yes, I'm sure ticket wise it just made a whole lot of sense
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if I will win. Why not stay another day in the
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sun? You know, the crazy thing is
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what the way this tournament is structured is we just fly right
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past and what happened with Iowa State beating Kentucky?
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What happened with Iowa? Yeah.
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On to the next we. I mean, didn't talk about
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Clemson at all. Yeah, No, we didn't.
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Didn't talk about Tennessee State at all.
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No, it just an NCAA tournament game.
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That'll be remembered because they all are.
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Sure, they're all important and there's always those moments
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that they're bigger than anything that happens during the
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regular season, really during conference tournaments.
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That is going to be a remember, that is your mantle and we just
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fly past it. But the good news is we got some
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time to stretch our wings so we can look through the whole
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tournament. Yeah, So we haven't done that
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yet. No, we.
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We'll get into that. Yeah.
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We don't have anybody else scheduled.
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So if you would like to jump aboard and grab a phone line,
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you're welcome to do that at 515-284-5966.
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If you want to pine on what you saw, Iowa, Iowa State or you're
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a you and I fan is they fall to Saint John's back on the was
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that Friday morning? No.
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Yeah. Was that the early game?
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I don't remember. So many damn games.
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Not complaining by any means. We'll take you until 2:00.
21:40
Trent's plays of the day are still to come.
21:43
Circus sports sponsor those. The Iowa women are underway, and
21:47
they're in a commercial break as we speak.
21:48
But last I saw it was tied up at 13 a piece.
21:53
The ten seed Virginia, the two seed Iowa.
21:55
They were in a battle. It was 13 a piece last I saw.
21:58
So we'll get you an update on that.
22:00
We'll take your time out. We'll come back.
22:01
We'll continue on here. Miller and Condon glad you're
22:04
with us on Des Moines Sports Station One O 6.3 KXNO.
22:18
I'm Hillary Condon, welcome back 1:30 Iowa Sports Radio Network.
22:22
Tomorrow, Rob Doster field of 68 will join Trent and I look
22:25
forward to that. Scott Dockerman will be a part
22:27
of it. Doc couldn't join us today.
22:29
He's covering the Iowa women for The Athletic and the Iowa
22:33
Football Pro Day was today. It was, yeah.
22:36
They had a couple of selected guys that were available.
22:38
Kirk Ference was also supposed to have a spring press
22:40
conference. Oh, they pushed that back.
22:42
They move that back to next week.
22:43
That will be so. Because of the Iowa women and
22:46
the men still both being alive. Yep.
22:48
So this was supposed to be a pretty eventful day for me.
22:51
Absolutely. So we'll get we'll pick Doc's
22:53
brain and what he saw on the the pro day, etcetera, etcetera.
22:57
Look forward to catching up with him.
22:58
But Rob Doster tomorrow as well. All right, let's kind of take a
23:01
look at the tournament as a whole.
23:04
And again, kind of the tournaments, I think it's
23:09
changed. I'm not sure how many
23:13
Cinderella's we'll see go and there'll be one.
23:15
It's not like there's not going to be 1, but they're not going
23:18
to be as plentiful I think as we as we've seen.
23:20
By the way, there's already 2 Drake Bulldogs in the portal.
23:23
Federico, he's decided he's out of here earlier today.
23:26
There was one over the weekend as well.
23:28
So that's just not a Drake thing.
23:30
I want to be. I don't want people think that
23:32
I'm killing Drake. It's, you know, a product of the
23:34
system. So that that's obviously one.
23:37
I, I thought the Nebraska Vanderbilt game was as good a
23:40
game maybe as we've seen, other than the, you know, I have a
23:44
Florida game for different reasons.
23:46
But what what are your takeaways?
23:48
And obviously the Big 10 and we should probably start right
23:50
there. I mean, there's 16 teams live,
23:52
six of which Big 10. The Big 10 had a great
23:56
tournament, but in the end, does it any of it matter until they
24:01
win a national championship? Because that's still that one.
24:04
That they haven't got there since Michigan State 2000.
24:07
And that's still lingers out there.
24:09
And you go through the Big 10 and just think of the Big 10,
24:11
the sheer volume of teams. It's not just where some
24:15
conferences, it's a couple of teams, right?
24:18
There's been, what, 8 teams that have played for a national
24:21
championship? Is that right?
24:23
It's the eight. Teams in that in that period of
24:25
time. Since so yeah, the last quarter
24:27
century, which is crazy to have that kind of depth.
24:31
All right, who's played Michigan, Illinois, Michigan
24:34
State, Wisconsin, Purdue? Do we count UCLA?
24:39
Yeah, brought a man. I don't think they play for a
24:41
title though, they just play do a final four.
24:43
So that's just 5. Ohio State has.
24:45
Indiana has way back in the day. Maryland has You count.
24:50
You don't count their national championship either. 2005 No.
24:54
Yeah, no, that's eighteens that have played for a title, but
24:58
nobody's broken through. That's that's wild that you
25:02
could have that many people. But also so many of those games
25:04
have also been blowouts too. And I think that's probably also
25:07
a. Good.
25:07
The way that they the the last the taste that we were left with
25:11
was Wisconsin maybe as disappointing A-Team as you saw
25:13
in the in this this weekend. I thought they were playing
25:17
while going into the tournament and had a dark, an outside
25:21
chance to, you know, be a second weekend team.
25:25
With Wisconsin a high point. And by the way, did you know
25:28
anything about High Point? I did, I didn't.
25:31
And I knew it because Huff, who is now taking over at Creighton,
25:33
that's where he was. OK, Iowa was also involved with
25:36
one of the. Yeah, McDermott retired today,
25:38
by the way, made it official. Yeah, so Greg McDermott is out.
25:41
Does that open up Jane Coon, the Storm Lake kid?
25:43
Where did Ben McCollum grow up? Storm Lake.
25:46
One would assume. There's been rumblings for a
25:48
while. That message left to the game
25:50
last night directed at him. Very well could have been but
25:53
that aside and congratulations to coping.
25:56
Let's take a moment here coach Mack's the guy that I've always
26:00
really liked. I got to don't respect for him
26:01
incredibly well at you and I. I was there starting my radio
26:04
career in Waterloo, Cedar Falls and he.
26:06
Was very accommodating as my guest.
26:08
Right. He also was happy to come on.
26:12
I got to golf with him once with my stepdad, my uncle at a golf
26:16
tournament and I had the yips that day.
26:17
I was popping everything up. And of course, his first line
26:19
when he came on the radio show the next time was making fun of
26:22
my golf game. But but a really good guy.
26:24
He resurrected that you and I program from the doldrums.
26:27
I mean, that was down down basketball with the Panthers and
26:31
turned them into a perennial contender for the last 25 years
26:35
now. But he helped start there before
26:37
coach Jacobson took over. But an incredible career.
26:40
It didn't work out at Iowa State.
26:42
If Wesley Johnson wasn't tampered with, I think it would
26:44
have. And what could have been with
26:47
Harrison Barnes there with the possibility of Doug then,
26:52
because if things went better, Doug would have been able to go
26:55
and play for his dad. But things weren't going well.
26:57
That's why Doug had to. Get out of town.
27:00
Go to you and I, we thought, and eventually end up there at
27:02
Creighton. But a guy that evolved, changed.
27:06
You saw the way that they played offensively that evolved
27:09
throughout time. Just a really, really well
27:12
respected coach and and without Greg McDermott might not be in
27:16
the Big East either. I mean, think of that how how
27:19
different well, they. 'D be somewhere 'cause they
27:21
would have, they would have probably jumped ship.
27:23
But hard to say. Yeah, maybe hard to say where.
27:26
One more coach since we're on that, that topic.
27:28
Bill Self. Bill Selfstone.
27:30
I mean, did you say here's press conference?
27:32
Yeah. It sure seemed to me like it's
27:34
going to be health that takes him off the sidelines.
27:37
I think I didn't read it definitive, but I did find it
27:41
interesting that he did put. It he's been more he, he's kind
27:45
of been evasive and understandably so.
27:47
In the middle of the year you're not going to say you know that
27:49
I'm. I'm done.
27:51
I I thought he was more open than I'd heard him before.
27:53
It seems to me like he's probably Kansas will also be
27:57
looking for a new head coach to talk about another guy who had a
28:00
a ton of success in self. Yeah.
28:03
He talked about his health and he's had some heart issues.
28:06
He's been kept out of games. Team flew to Colorado earlier
28:09
this year. Not if it was the altitude with
28:11
the heart that that acted up or whatever.
28:13
And he was hospitalized there. One point of memory serves
28:17
didn't coach in the game, but it sure seems like Bill Self is
28:20
probably done. McDermott has already announced
28:22
that he's going to come to an end.
28:25
You have to assume the North Carolina job is going to come
28:27
open very quickly here at some point because I just don't know
28:31
how you survive this. Are the natives restless enough
28:35
in Kentucky that Mark Pope walks the plank?
28:38
Because Kentucky basketball is a different animal, as you well
28:41
know. You've got to win in Lexington.
28:43
And getting bounced in the round of 32 in the way that they did
28:46
it with all of those turnovers the Wildcat fans are not happy
28:51
with with that. All right, let's take a couple
28:53
of calls. If you would like to jump
28:54
aboard, we'd love to have you. 515-284-5966, 515-284-5966.
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Brian's been on hold. Brian, welcome to the program.
29:05
How are you? Good.
29:05
How? Are you guys?
29:08
Doing OK, Brian, what's on your mind?
29:11
Oh, just just that that amazing Iowa game last night.
29:14
That's I'm I'm about around Trent's age, I think, and that's
29:20
got to be I mean, I recently bias are probably the biggest
29:26
Iowa basketball win in my lifetime.
29:30
And then Cooper Koch, he has been, you know what, he's just
29:35
come alive these past few games. And last night he was so clutch
29:40
that three he made and I'm not sure what the defender he was
29:44
right in his face towards the end of the game.
29:46
And then if he doesn't knock that ball out of that Florida
29:52
guy's hands and McCollum challenged, I don't even know if
29:56
he gets the chance to win that game.
29:57
That's a. Great point, and it was a great
29:59
call by McCollum, whoever was getting in his ear, to challenge
30:02
that. Play.
30:03
The kids name is Jace. I know that the kids name is
30:05
their video coordinator. That is the one that has the
30:08
iPad there that quickly jumps into it.
30:10
Credit to Jace. Jace deserves a raise, boys.
30:12
Do we all agree there? Man, great job.
30:15
Jace. Tyler, I want to say it is.
30:16
Yeah, yeah. Great work out of him. 2
30:19
overturned. Calls by Jace.
30:20
Thanks, Brian. Appreciate the call, man.
30:22
You get back to us anytime. Hopefully it continues on for
30:26
your squad. Yeah, that's a great point.
30:28
And that three that he took, I think no, no, no good.
30:31
That was I believe cut it back to one.
30:33
That was the first time and only time the Florida had a 2
30:36
possession lead in the whole game.
30:37
They were up 4, right? Yes, and 60. 561.
30:40
And then was that what it was somewhere around there?
30:43
Or maybe it cut it to 6261? Regardless that shot, Cooper
30:47
Koch got to have that and we talked about it during that
30:49
shooting slump. He always felt it was the shots
30:53
so beautiful. It's repeatable.
30:56
He would just he was off. He was going through a slump and
30:59
to be able to do that to continue to knock down shots.
31:02
Now they're going to need that and it's going to have to
31:04
continue against Nebraska because Bennett Sturtz And if
31:07
you would have said yesterday, I send you a text, hey, I got my
31:11
crystal ball out. Yeah.
31:13
And then it starts. It's going to go over 9 from
31:14
three. What would your score prediction
31:17
been? That you changed the channel
31:20
some point before it ended. I know I would have.
31:22
Andy, welcome to the program. Andy, how are you?
31:25
Great. Thanks for taking my call.
31:27
Two thoughts. One, that Iowa game was down the
31:30
last two minutes. I kept hearing my head Jim
31:34
Zabel's voice from the great beyond saying hug those radios,
31:38
kiss those radios. And my second thought is at some
31:42
point our kids or our grandkids are going to say you had TJ and
31:48
Ben coaching at the same time. Wouldn't that's it.
31:53
Yeah, Andy, thanks for the call. And that's an excellent .2 great
31:56
coaches that's at their respective universities.
31:59
It's it's it's unbelievable. He's a great time to be a
32:02
basketball fan in the state of Iowa.
32:04
Like I'll throw Ben Jacobson in as well.
32:06
And this guy stood the test of time and all that he's done.
32:09
I didn't know it didn't go well against Saint John.
32:11
St. John's, by the way, is in the
32:12
Sweet 16. I remind you of that.
32:14
How about did you see Pitino at the end of that game, The game
32:17
win? No, the end of the game
32:18
yesterday, the game winner, just like home cool parts collected
32:23
sticks of his hands. Been there, done that a couple
32:27
of times. I guess.
32:28
By the way, I was down 25/21, 2:41 left to Virginia's.
32:33
Virginia just missed a three rebound.
32:35
I would go back the other way in the women's game.
32:38
So we touched on this a little bit and I'm going to try to get
32:41
the line up Tommy Birch tomorrow when when it comes to the Iowa
32:44
State women and and nothing's going to be said or done till
32:47
the Iowa State men our season comes to an end.
32:49
You don't want to you don't want to, you know, inject anything
32:52
other than that. I was always of the opinion that
32:57
Bill's been there so long, he's earned the right to decide when
33:00
it's over. And folks, it's going to be over
33:02
when Audie Crooks and Addie Brown and the respect the rest
33:05
of the respective seniors, they run out of eligibility.
33:09
And I I would think that next year would be, you know, bills
33:12
last year and and off he goes into retirement.
33:14
But just the who's Kenzie Hare's gonna be a senior next year as
33:18
well. I think there's one more, maybe
33:20
Jada. Yeah, Jada Williams.
33:21
J Williams, she'll be a senior next year.
33:23
So, but the way I, I've never seen this when it comes to Iowa
33:26
State women's basketball, they're not happy.
33:31
The way that the program hasn't changed.
33:34
It's the same offense. You, you, you've hear, I'm, I'm
33:37
hearing more angst towards the Iowa State Women's program that
33:41
I've heard maybe ever. You're absolutely right.
33:43
And I still go back to it. Was one of the losses, one of
33:47
the first losses during the losing streak earlier this year,
33:50
I think it was the Cincinnati game.
33:51
It was Game 2 of that losing streak that reached 5 when Brown
33:55
went down. They were also playing at that
33:56
time. Was it Jackson maybe was out too
33:59
during that losing streak? But regardless, and when that
34:02
happened, I just saw the official tweet that everybody
34:05
puts out, you know, with the final score and obviously the
34:08
final score did not go very well, right?
34:10
And the sheer volume of negative.
34:12
Response of replies to the tweet to that tweet and Ariana Jackson
34:16
also. It was I, I, I was so floored by
34:21
it because yes, I understand after a loss, yes, fans are
34:23
upset and you might see a couple of those afterwards, sure.
34:27
But it was the volume of it. It was.
34:30
More than I can ever remember. 1520 replies.
34:33
Bill's got to go. You know it's over.
34:36
Stayed too long. I did not Is.
34:39
It time to make a tough decision, right?
34:41
You know, you see that a lot. Absolutely.
34:43
And it is a tough call, the guy. Is Iowa State women's
34:47
basketball? What does the attendance #600?
34:50
And 93 or something didn't it? 4 figures in his first game.
34:54
He built this into a model of consistency, right, and the high
34:59
highs that they've had. Look at the fannies in seats.
35:03
I mean, Iowa didn't before 22. This didn't happen over there,
35:07
right? It happened at not Hilton wasn't
35:09
full, but the lower bowl was full of most games every game.
35:13
To be fair, Iowa was OK. It wasn't Iowa State.
35:16
No, it's still pretty good in comparison to the rest of
35:17
women's college basketball, Sure.
35:19
But yes, Hilton, they had bodies in there watching those teams
35:23
and then compete when you have a class like this, a special
35:26
group. You know.
35:28
It's a tough decision, yeah. And it's a tough decision
35:30
because it's not just Bill's going to retire and hand it off
35:33
to. Something.
35:33
No. And he's not handing it off to
35:34
his kid. You can't do that.
35:36
And you can't. There's not a you got to blow
35:37
out the whole staff. I'm sorry.
35:39
They all have to go. If you're going to jettison him,
35:45
you have to just do the whole thing.
35:47
All the assistants, they've been there forever.
35:49
And the job that is coveted. Oh heck yeah.
35:52
When you're talking about women's basketball, this is a
35:55
top 25 job and minimum. A top ten watch team I was #1
36:00
viewership, I think I was state was like 9.
36:03
We know that women's basketball matters in this state and it's
36:05
mattered for decades. When you moved here and you
36:09
first, I'm sure, heard people talking about going down to
36:11
watch the six on six. Girls basketball is what God's
36:14
name is wrong with these people in this state.
36:16
Women's basketball, girls basketball has mattered in this
36:18
state for decades, for a century.
36:21
It is part of the fabric of our state, Iowa State women's
36:25
basketball. There's an opportunity and it's
36:27
not. Maybe you can find a mid major
36:30
coach. There are coaches, there are
36:32
sitting coaches that want the Iowa State job.
36:37
That makes it even more difficult.
36:38
If Audie Crooks puts her name in the portal.
36:41
If Addie Brown decides to go into the portal, and I think
36:45
those would be the the big two, Jada Williams told Tommy after
36:49
the game. Tommy birched to Moines Register
36:52
that she's coming back. Audie Crooks was a little bit
36:55
evasive with her answer. Yes, the game had just ended.
36:59
I mean, the game had just ended. So, you know, to get a no, I'm
37:02
out of here. Probably not going to happen
37:04
that quickly after the game. But it sounded like, you know,
37:07
she's going to take her time and make a call.
37:09
If everybody comes back, Bill comes back.
37:13
If the two, I don't want to call them ringleaders, That sounds
37:17
like it's, you know, not on the up and up.
37:19
If the two main cogs in the wheel, the two stars, the two
37:22
stars, if they decide to move on, then I think Iowa State
37:26
moves on. Fair to say, put it that way,
37:29
that Audie Crooks and Addie Brown have built Fenley and the
37:32
rest of that coaching staff's future in the palm of their
37:34
hands. It's as simple as that, I think
37:35
it is. I think you absolutely nailed
37:37
it. Troy is next.
37:39
Hi, Troy, welcome to the program.
37:40
What's on your mind, Troy? Great show guys.
37:43
Hawkeye fan here, but he got to address Iowa State with Tory and
37:46
Lipsy. They got the two best defensive
37:48
guards left in the tournament, like having two locked down
37:51
corners out there. And as the Hawk fan, loved
37:54
watching Iowa State and Nebraska go at it.
37:57
While Iowa State do that, they can watch the carnage on
38:00
Thursday. Nebraska has Iowa guards playing
38:03
for Nebraska. There's going to be storylines.
38:05
Good morning that game and for being a Hawk fan, that game plan
38:10
was amazing. The ball movement, the shot
38:12
making and that was my favorite Hawkeye win since Iowa at Kansas
38:16
And Trent, you said it's a little bookmarked that that was
38:19
that was a great Oh your list. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:22
It was quite the list and I know.
38:24
Troy, thanks for the comment. Appreciate it.
38:26
Good to hear from you, A. Few of my buddies were sending
38:28
me other ones too. It's.
38:29
A lot of scar tissues. A lot of moments throughout the
38:33
time and the 27 year drought is over.
38:35
Absolutely. It's a great wit.
38:38
It's phenomenal. It truly was a phenomenal
38:41
basketball game. This wasn't I thought of you
38:43
and. Jack right after I wondered what
38:44
was going on in the Condon household.
38:46
He hopped up on the couch and jumped right into my arms.
38:48
Ellen came over and gave you a hug.
38:50
She also, she's got too much dad in her, I think watching
38:54
basketball because at one point she says pissed off.
38:57
The Hawkeyes got to get their S together.
39:00
Well, she was right. Yeah.
39:01
And yes, yes. What it was is 12 point lead at
39:05
one point for Iowa. Was 5130. 9 Now at no point did
39:09
I think that this now when I'm watching I was state extend the
39:12
lead into, you know, the this this is over, yeah.
39:15
Kentucky wanted to leave, right? They did.
39:17
And how about Heisey after the game?
39:19
Did you see his quote about that?
39:20
We knew, and I'm paraphrasing folks, something about we knew
39:23
if they, if we, you know, punched him in the mouth that
39:26
they were going to quit. He essentially said that, I
39:29
mean, if I'm a Kentucky fan and I'm hearing that from an
39:31
opposing player, that my team is soft.
39:34
And if I if my team gets hit in the mouth, they're going to
39:36
quit. But during the Florida Down 12,
39:40
there was no time to think. Oh, I was home free.
39:42
Cruise control. Yeah.
39:43
No, no, we've seen that champs coming back.
39:46
They had a 8 point lead in the second-half at Purdue.
39:49
They had a bleed of what, 10 points at Hilton?
39:52
They had the lead against Michigan.
39:55
They've been there before. It was just finishing it off.
39:59
Finish it off with a big shot from El Thero and then a
40:02
defensive stop to win the game against the defending.
40:05
Game and not getting a shot off, so it's not like you had to hold
40:08
your breath while the balls in the air like you did if you were
40:11
a Nebraska fan watching the Fandy game.
40:14
With that, Horn went off. I was like, how is it there more
40:17
time? Because of course they're going
40:19
to get a shot off, but of course it's going to.
40:21
Go in this, this, this, this can't work out this easily for
40:24
us, right? You're thinking that, hey, do
40:26
we, how much time do we have six teams left of the Big 10 teams,
40:31
how would you power rank them as far as their chances to get to
40:35
to get to the championship, to get to the championship?
40:38
Is Michigan still the most likely to get to the
40:40
championship? I think so.
40:43
Is Illinois second or is Purdue? Or do you want to go Michigan
40:49
State because they've got if Michigan, if it goes according
40:52
to the seed, Michigan State's going to have to beat UConn and
40:54
then Duke. Oh yeah, I.
40:57
Duke has not been great. But no, not at all, Michigan.
41:01
I don't like the way Uconn's playing.
41:02
I don't like the way Duke is playing.
41:03
I do like the way Sad Johns is playing.
41:05
Maybe you'd be Michigan State would be the easy answer.
41:07
Illinois against that Houston defense.
41:10
Oh boy, they can shoot to. Trent, they can.
41:14
Could I say it's Purdue, this team?
41:18
Purdue. How disappointing they've been,
41:20
and it could be Purdue you. Say the same about Texas.
41:22
They've been disappointing and here they are.
41:24
Miller and Condon back to wrap things up, Transplazer today,
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41:29
Network. Good final minute of our
41:31
program, halftime at Carver, Virginia, 2823 over the Hawks.
41:37
Chitchat, right, leads the way with eight.
41:39
UCLA maybe broke this women's team they're playing.
41:42
Awful. They have not been good since
41:44
that game and you're right, they may have broke them in that this
41:48
by 50. Yeah, and got by barely fairly
41:52
Dickinson. And that was tooth and nail,
41:55
right? It was.
41:56
Let's talk about your plays of the day.
41:57
There's no NIT tonight. There is not.
42:00
There is women's basketball, though that will continue after
42:03
the Iowa, Virginia game. And I got a couple of doggies.
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OK, yes. You feel good about these picks?
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Pretty good. We're going to grab the points
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with Notre Dame. They're getting 5 1/2 against
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the Buckeyes and we're going to grab Illinois.
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I like that Illinois team, 13 1/2.
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They're getting on the road at Vanderbilt and that weird ass
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Jim. That will do it for us off the
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benches next. Miller and Condon with you
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you. Thanks for being with us.
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