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Pastor Troy Interview · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: the gangs of y'all. All right, man, staying down with it.
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Speaker 1: How you feel about to see you in a wild Yeah? Man,
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Speaker 1: Good to see y'all boys. Good to see my boys.
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Speaker 1: Shot ain't seen you said your birthday party down in
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Speaker 1: the seeing Columbia. Yeah, man, just kicking up what you
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Speaker 1: got going now. You remained relatively independent your whole career.
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Speaker 1: Why is that, man? Um? It was I started off independent, man,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Had some contract disputes that
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Speaker 1: made me have to go major for a little while.
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Speaker 1: But after I was finished with my contract, I just
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Speaker 1: went back to my independent roots with a lot of
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Speaker 1: that major game with me. You said you had to
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Speaker 1: go major. I had to go major, man, because I
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Speaker 1: hooked up with this, uh, this guy Jane Griffin signed
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Speaker 1: a contract and it stopped me from having my own label.
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Speaker 1: It was like I signed on to him. He turned
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Speaker 1: me over to Universal or whatever. It was cool, man,
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Speaker 1: it worked out for him. It was a good thing.
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Speaker 1: I learned a lot being with the majors. But when
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Speaker 1: I went back independent, I was showing up Freddy. Now
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Speaker 1: everybody's trying to get back, so glad I've been here.
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Speaker 1: Back then, a lot of people wanted to sign you.
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Speaker 1: Remember Scarface wanted to sign you the job South? Yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: you know he was holding at me. Man. I come
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Speaker 1: home one day, Man, Scarface sitting in the living room
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Speaker 1: with my parents. I'm like, what's going on? Yeah? Man?
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Speaker 1: It was so crazy, man, because everybody knows my father
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Speaker 1: is a pastor man, and that time Scarface really just
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Speaker 1: wanted to meet my dad more than he wanted to
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Speaker 1: meet me. But it was all good, man, real cool,
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Speaker 1: you know down South Man, I was telling somebody in
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Speaker 1: an interview yesterday, Man, like Backboning now was probably the
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Speaker 1: first solo artist to sign, you know, major deals in Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: and Man, just after that, man, it just opened up
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Speaker 1: so many doors, man, you know what I mean. It's
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Speaker 1: still popping up down and now you know that same
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Speaker 1: kind of sound. I forgot why Scarface you didn't sign? Okay,
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Speaker 1: we ain't signed because he told the people at the
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Speaker 1: Universal they were like, what you want to do? What with? Who?
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Speaker 1: H Yeah? He got another album over here, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. So you got to be cool when
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Speaker 1: you're doing stuff like that, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Got you Yeah, they they see intra like Puffy wanted
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Speaker 1: to sign me. Puffy go up there like yeah, Monte,
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Speaker 1: what's up? Every year? I want Pastor Troy? What you
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Speaker 1: want Pastor Troy? Yeah? Yeah, he got another album over here?
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Speaker 1: Want to sign you? Yeah? Man, you know he was
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Speaker 1: trying to do the bad boy South stuff. You know.
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Speaker 1: He used to come down and hang out at the
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Speaker 1: Bounce and stuff with me until it should be cool.
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Speaker 1: That's crazy. Now, your father was actually a pastor, so
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Speaker 1: the name because because somebody asked me that is he
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Speaker 1: is he a reverend? Yeah? Yeah, my father, he still
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Speaker 1: is a pastor down to atl Man. That was one
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Speaker 1: of the most difficult things growing up with him being
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Speaker 1: a pastor. Man, rap was kind of taboo in the house.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't listen to it like that, man, which really
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Speaker 1: made it really special to me. Man, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean? In that college Man down to Paying College
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Speaker 1: in Augusta, Georgia. Man, about twenty twenty years old. Man,
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Speaker 1: I stepped to my parents on the sophomore like, look,
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Speaker 1: I'm about to be a rapper and what did he say?
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Speaker 1: Are you crazy? You know? But you know it all
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Speaker 1: worked out. You know, I just explained it to him. Man,
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Speaker 1: this is just something I wanted to do. Man, something
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Speaker 1: I need to try at twenty as opposed to thirty.
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Speaker 1: And you know, they was down. They was down with it, man,
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Speaker 1: game and they support. I had to go make a
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Speaker 1: pop off them. Man in the work, did your father
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Speaker 1: ever listened to any of the lyrics and be like, nasam,
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Speaker 1: we got to talk about you know what man vice
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Speaker 1: versa songs? Man? When I originally wrote that song, man,
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Speaker 1: I say that as a poem in college, man like
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Speaker 1: a talent show man, they booted me out the building. Man,
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Speaker 1: he Antichrist. He didn't see that, And I was like,
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Speaker 1: I really didn't understand those things. Man. You know the
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Speaker 1: song it's like what if Heaven was hell? And vice versa.
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Speaker 1: So I had to hit my dad up, like, hey, Dad,
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Speaker 1: my friend wrote this song man called vera and he
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Speaker 1: talking about this, he talking about that. My dad just
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Speaker 1: really kind of explained to me, like, man, you know,
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Speaker 1: ain't nothing wrong with somebody's saying what hell? You know
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Speaker 1: what I mean? People can ask questions every day you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, and just made me feel a
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Speaker 1: lot better about the record. Man. Two years later, I
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Speaker 1: finally heard the beat and I was like this to
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Speaker 1: beat for vice a verse. And then when I did it, man,
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Speaker 1: everybody ended up loving that record. Man, it's crazy because
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Speaker 1: it description the Bible now that said it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a time with good. It's gonna be made to look
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Speaker 1: like man, dog be made to look like See it
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Speaker 1: has not that song, and it makes more sense to
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Speaker 1: day than it ever has. Man, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: what the good was really bad? What the bad was
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Speaker 1: really good? What would you do? You know? Now? What
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Speaker 1: does the belt mean? For people who don't know you
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Speaker 1: always have the belt with Yeah? Man, I brought the
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Speaker 1: bulldog helmet out too, Man, Yo, Man, come to my
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Speaker 1: South Carolina boy in here. Man, they got to come
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Speaker 1: down the draw of the ship. We're gonna be death.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna beat him to death. Hey ya, but check
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Speaker 1: it out the belt, man. You know, everybody know I
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Speaker 1: had the infamous beat for master P at the beginning
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Speaker 1: of my career and the big, my big event, Man,
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Speaker 1: my coming out party was the Birthday Badge. It's kind
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Speaker 1: of like the Summer Jam up here down in Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: and uh, I was on the original bill. Man, this
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Speaker 1: one I was hot. This was my future, rich homing
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Speaker 1: quand days and everything. Man, master P being the big
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Speaker 1: dog in the game that he was, he ain't took
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Speaker 1: off the show. He replaced me, but he didn't know
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Speaker 1: that he couldn't replace me in a TL like they had.
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Speaker 1: The people was ready to see me. Man, this is
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Speaker 1: gonna be my first time coming out with that normal
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Speaker 1: playing ga. Man. Uh, they put P on the show,
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Speaker 1: and man, he had a long day out there. Man,
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about people. Man. It really wasn't even beef. Man.
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Speaker 1: I just came in, like with the song. Man, we
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Speaker 1: were just like we were going in anybody, everybody on
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Speaker 1: the top. Man, Yeah, I mean, and that's the strategy
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Speaker 1: a lot of people have used. Yeah after that, you know,
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Speaker 1: go whoever is the hottest right now? Yeah, that time
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Speaker 1: you was just trying to sell record. Man. Yeah, it
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Speaker 1: wasn't nothing like that. Man. I respect Pete. Man, he's
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Speaker 1: the best, you know what I mean. You can't really
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Speaker 1: even be jealous of somebody unless you flatter by, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So even now, Man, if me
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Speaker 1: and P did a song to day then joined a goal.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because everybody still knows the rivalry.
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Speaker 1: Good Mom ended up bringing me out on that concert. Man,
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Speaker 1: that they brought me out on stage. Man, it's atl.
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Speaker 1: We can't let nobody show us down. Come on out, Troy.
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Speaker 1: Twenty thirty thousand people went retarded black balls after that though. Nah,
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Speaker 1: everything's been great, every sense to him. You know what
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Speaker 1: I mean. He ain't no holding Nah, he ain't. Man,
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Speaker 1: I really ran across men see murder Man. I'm glad
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Speaker 1: we never really hurt each other. Man, I'm glad we
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Speaker 1: were able to catch up after everything. It kind of
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Speaker 1: smooth things out. But it's all cool. So you never
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Speaker 1: had a conversation with Man. We don't even chopped it up.
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Speaker 1: You know. He has signed on with Universal after that also,
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Speaker 1: but they just kind of kept us separate. That's when
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Speaker 1: I knew it was time for me to get back
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Speaker 1: independent and out of the building. You know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: He was running the building. Yeah, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: Let me get up out of him. Man, do my thing? Now?
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Speaker 1: That phone call was that a real phone call? No? Man, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we just did. They sold us about join the downtown
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Speaker 1: jokes said We're ready, let's go to what man dog?
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Speaker 1: But us just sitting in the studio Tripp and doing
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Speaker 1: that joint. Whoever would have thought that we would have
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Speaker 1: not mastered p you know what I mean, from just
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Speaker 1: some brothers in the studio trying to get on man,
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Speaker 1: it's great. A lot of dudes that came out of me,
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Speaker 1: came at me. They probably got some phone calls at me.
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Speaker 1: But it just ain't working for him now while run
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Speaker 1: around the championship belt. Now, yeah, I caught what I
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Speaker 1: laid down at birthday bash that day, belt up boy
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Speaker 1: with him? No he did not, I had mine, I said. Yo.
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Speaker 1: He was like, all right, Troy, Yeah, I know it
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Speaker 1: all right. You know now you had you had a
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Speaker 1: before Little John too, which I didn't know because I
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Speaker 1: mean you appearing on a bunch of so much as music. Yeah. Man,
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Speaker 1: that's why I was mad with a Little John man,
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Speaker 1: because we was supposed to keep that pipeline going. I
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Speaker 1: love the majors to go independent, and I was just
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Speaker 1: gonna bank off of still doing the albums with the
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Speaker 1: guys who still had the major deal. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: but it just didn't work out that way, you know,
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Speaker 1: And it's cool. You know, everybody grew up and learning
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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Man. I'm just glad my position with
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Speaker 1: the people always Moraine the same, y'all. Cool now John,
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Speaker 1: Yeah he's straight man. You know they got into the
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Speaker 1: d M and all that stuff, real hard man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: So that's a new lay Man. I got to check
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Speaker 1: out see what's going on over there. I know, my
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Speaker 1: voice to fit in with what they got going. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Walkers doing it too, man, what's up a little walk?
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Speaker 1: It was the beat for over though late, you know what, man.
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Speaker 1: I was talking to John explaining the same thing to him. Look, man,
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Speaker 1: that was a drastic move for me to you leave
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Speaker 1: Universal at that time, man, and go back independence. So
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Speaker 1: I was still gonna keep my presence by these records
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Speaker 1: with are just like him. So I'm talking to John.
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Speaker 1: He telling me, Troy, look, I gotta get you back
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Speaker 1: on this next album, man, when we get back to
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Speaker 1: the ATL I gotta get your verse, all right, cool man.
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Speaker 1: I talked to Steve Gottlie but at the time the
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Speaker 1: prisident at the time of TVT, he was like, yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: John just turned his album. Man. Man, I was like,
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Speaker 1: where's Troy. I'm like he just turned to his album. Man,
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Speaker 1: we're supposed to be recording this week, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean. But that's how the game goes. You know,
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Speaker 1: I understand how the game goes. Now, I'd be a
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Speaker 1: whole bunch of Hey man, I'm gonna call you next week.
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Speaker 1: You know, I get it now. Then it was more
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Speaker 1: to the heart, but now I do it to people think.
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Speaker 1: You think it was because like that whole crunk movement
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Speaker 1: that past You know what, man, it was the crunk man.
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Speaker 1: You know what, I was a problem down there with
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Speaker 1: that whole that whole thing. Man. I was the one
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Speaker 1: that they kind of didn't want to be next to
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Speaker 1: when that stuff was going on. Man, because its pastoral Troy.
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Speaker 1: I was kind of up here and those guys were
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Speaker 1: a little bit behind me with that. So like, man,
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Speaker 1: come on, throw it Up. It's crazy that record is. Man,
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Speaker 1: we don't have any video classic to this day. We
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Speaker 1: didn't do a video for Throw It Up. Come Home, man,
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. That's the kind of stuff
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Speaker 1: that frustrated me. You know what I mean, you gotta
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Speaker 1: address some stuff like that. Man, we ain't got no
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Speaker 1: video for Throw It Up. I listen, man, that's my
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Speaker 1: I'm I like crunk music because I like when I
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Speaker 1: work out. I listened to Get You Going. I listened
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Speaker 1: to throw it Up three or four times a week,
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Speaker 1: right now, get you going? That's good man, that's the
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Speaker 1: n man for those songs to still stick like that. Man,
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Speaker 1: like man, my my show set man hitting them with
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Speaker 1: coming out and throw it up, following it up with
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Speaker 1: vice versa, come back with are we cutting? Ending it
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Speaker 1: with normal playing Ga, you gotta have your show to
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Speaker 1: come out to pt man. You think that, you know,
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Speaker 1: as as an artist that made those kind of records,
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Speaker 1: when you get older, you can still perform them. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how I'm gonna perform. Hey, man, I feel
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Speaker 1: like Frankie Beverly. Now that's what I Man. You know
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Speaker 1: I didn't really got to make a whole lot of music. Man,
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Speaker 1: my show set man dog after them twenty thirty minutes. Man,
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Speaker 1: I'm about to die. It's all good with it. Hard
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Speaker 1: of you to adjust to the new sounds coming out
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Speaker 1: of atl because you came up in the crunk a man.
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Speaker 1: What's really so surprising about it? Man, it is that
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Speaker 1: if really going back to that same old violence crunk,
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Speaker 1: you know, the jumping around and stuff like that, the
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Speaker 1: og makos and the stuff like that. Man, all that
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Speaker 1: Holland and stuff. Man, I've been doing that for fifteen
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Speaker 1: years now, you know what I mean, the heavy bass,
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Speaker 1: the gunshots in the music, Man, that's old pt. What's
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Speaker 1: the difference of Atlanta now posted when you was running
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Speaker 1: through Atlanta crazy when your records was on fire? Man.
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Speaker 1: The difference in Atlanta now is that it wasn't the
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Speaker 1: struggle that it was when I was trying to get on. Man,
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Speaker 1: come on, I was up here performing at the tunnel
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Speaker 1: and stuff like that, begging flexing them to play a
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Speaker 1: Pastor Troy record. Man, probably be the only song that
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Speaker 1: they played the whole night, that one South record. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna play one South record of the night, and that's it,
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Speaker 1: you know. And just to come up here now, just
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Speaker 1: even as I just saw people bouncing around the office
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Speaker 1: up here, Man, they're singing rich hommey Kuan just humming
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Speaker 1: it man, just to see host and change, man, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't really think that they
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Speaker 1: really know what it really took to it to get
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Speaker 1: to that point where he said, Man, there was some
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Speaker 1: real sacrifices going on. Always the fashion has definitely changed,
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Speaker 1: you know, but those things, it's a crazy man. I
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Speaker 1: was just talking about my responsibility with rapping man and
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Speaker 1: just looking at the music that's coming out of the Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: Some of those guys never had They never really had
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Speaker 1: a responsibility in their music, man, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: So you can't expect them to make some responsible music,
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of referring back to the Og Mako
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Speaker 1: and the Future thing. Og was like, you know, saying
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Speaker 1: whatever he had to say, He's not he doesn't make
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Speaker 1: that kind of music, so you can't expect nothing more
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Speaker 1: from him, man, you know what I mean. So it
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Speaker 1: seems real special. Man. I'm glad I got in when
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Speaker 1: I got in. Man, they have to respect future. What
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Speaker 1: do you think about some of the artists. What do
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Speaker 1: you think of Future now? Man? I'm really loving Future
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Speaker 1: campaign man because I hadn't seen them come up. Man.
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Speaker 1: He'd been at this thing a long time too, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. People probably just see him the
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Speaker 1: last four or five years, but man, Future Man grinding
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Speaker 1: ten years plus, you know. Yeah. Man, So to see
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Speaker 1: those guys kind of get the shine o, Man, I
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Speaker 1: love it, you know what I mean? Guys, like that, man,
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Speaker 1: because they still him him, are just like him walk
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Speaker 1: or stuff like that. Man, we really still kick it
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Speaker 1: a lot of those guys in atl Man, I'm still
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Speaker 1: a threat too. So you don't hear us on a
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Speaker 1: lot of records and stuff like that. Man, And I
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Speaker 1: get it. It's cool, but y'all don't woke up a
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Speaker 1: sleeping giant. Did they come to you for advice? Like
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Speaker 1: who would come to you and say, listen, can we
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Speaker 1: chop it up? And you know what, bank Roll Fresh
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Speaker 1: was one of the little artists. Man's been coming to me,
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Speaker 1: you know, howling at me, reaching out to me. Man,
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Speaker 1: paying a lot of homage to me. Man, I'm the
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Speaker 1: one that's running around getting that vice from artists like
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Speaker 1: eight Bolling, m J G and the stuff like that. Man.
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Speaker 1: Those guys come out and hang out at my studio. Man,
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Speaker 1: just seeing them sitting in my living room in my studio, Man,
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Speaker 1: where I listened to these guys and my head said,
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Speaker 1: it just makes me feel like I did it all right, Man,
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Speaker 1: maybe feel like a million dollars. It said that what
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Speaker 1: you said about the og maker on Future Things. People
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Speaker 1: getting flak for talking about drugs, But I mean y'all
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Speaker 1: era was straight violence. Yeah yeah, get guns, stomp you
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Speaker 1: at the club. Yeah. Man, it was totally different, man,
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Speaker 1: But I think it was more from a different place. Man.
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Speaker 1: I think it was more from a different place. People
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Speaker 1: were enjoying the energy, man, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: enjoying the energy. It was a lot of fights and
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Speaker 1: a lot of violence that came with it, but it wasn't.
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Speaker 1: My thing was being able to separate myself from the two.
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Speaker 1: All Right. Pastor Troy does this kind of music. He
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Speaker 1: rasps about this and everything. But me, Michael Troy, Look,
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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna tell you to do none of that
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Speaker 1: stuff that Pastor Troy doing. Pastor Troy gonna get in
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Speaker 1: no trouble for that. Michael Troy is gonna get in trouble.
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Speaker 1: Like you're gonna get in trouble if you do it too,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Man. I just performed for
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Speaker 1: my parents, man, thanksgiving them last year. Last year. Man,
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Speaker 1: it was the only one that was safe for him
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Speaker 1: to come. We did something in Atlanta, Man. I performed
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Speaker 1: down there were like a live band, like a Pastor
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Speaker 1: Troy unplug and man, it felt so good to do, man,
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Speaker 1: because they know every weekend. Man. For fifteen years, every weekend,
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Speaker 1: I've been on the road doing this right, and it
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Speaker 1: was just felt good to setting them down and just
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Speaker 1: let them see what I do. You know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: They enjoyed it many my mom and she's all the
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Speaker 1: way down with it. Man. She represents you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean. She got all those jams on her phone.
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Speaker 1: When I call a vice versa, she might answer the phone, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's dope, man, it's dope.
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Speaker 1: I want you to touch on what you was talking
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Speaker 1: about earlier. He said that the struggle that down South
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Speaker 1: artists had to go through with New York gardens and
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Speaker 1: the outcast got booted the soldier. Oh yeah, man, you know,
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Speaker 1: they just wasn't giving us the time of day. And
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Speaker 1: I understand why. Man. It was like, man, the booty
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Speaker 1: shaking music was going on. Man, they ain't rapping about nothing.
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Speaker 1: They don't really whole bunch of substance. Then we started
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Speaker 1: coming with something. I know that I'm one of those
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Speaker 1: defining artists that made artists from people from New York
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Speaker 1: telling me all the time, Troy, you one of the
14:35
Speaker 1: first ones down South that made me say, all right, man,
14:38
Speaker 1: we got to see what they talking about. They might
14:39
Speaker 1: be doing something down there, and I love that, man,
14:43
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I doubt that would have
14:45
Speaker 1: happened without me taking that step and sign them with Universal.
14:48
Speaker 1: When I did, Man, it just let me open it
14:50
Speaker 1: up a little bit. But Man, Nori and just everybody
14:54
Speaker 1: read Man. Just so many people from New York just
14:56
Speaker 1: started showing me love. Man. They just love the energy.
14:58
Speaker 1: It was just so different. And now you come down
15:01
Speaker 1: to atl Man, and it's just popping. Man, I'm talking
15:03
Speaker 1: ab I got so many homeboards from New York to
15:05
Speaker 1: live in Atlanta. Now. Man, I'm just glad that the
15:08
Speaker 1: Civil War kind of ended, you know what I mean.
15:11
Speaker 1: Even when you talk about the DM thing, you kind
15:12
Speaker 1: of experimented it a little bit when you did like
15:15
Speaker 1: the cutting. Yeah, Man, it was cool. Man. Man, I
15:19
Speaker 1: probably for form are we cutting five six times? To date? Man,
15:24
Speaker 1: that album came out. It just ain't fit with the
15:26
Speaker 1: rest of the Patrick Troy stuff. Man, come on, these
15:28
Speaker 1: fools like, Man, we don't want to you know, we cut,
15:30
Speaker 1: We want to hear kill somebody, you know what I mean.
15:33
Speaker 1: It just ain't fit into my playlist. So I love
15:35
Speaker 1: the record. Did great at radio and stuff like that,
15:37
Speaker 1: but it just ain't fit in well with vice versa
15:40
Speaker 1: and no more play. We got the label telling you
15:42
Speaker 1: to do those of course, man, of course, and it
15:44
Speaker 1: was cool. I just appreciate it for what it was, man,
15:46
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Who can say that they
15:48
Speaker 1: had a single on a blockbuster movie like that? Man?
15:52
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Had a single for the soundtrack,
15:54
Speaker 1: So it was cool. Half a million dollars video shoots
15:57
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Man, A lot of people ain't
15:58
Speaker 1: gonna be able to experience that, especially now you know
16:01
Speaker 1: what videos. You know, it's crazy because don't seem like
16:05
Speaker 1: it was that long ago. Yeah man, that's gonna buy. Yeah. No.
16:09
Speaker 1: In the Wikipedia it says you the world's biggest scam artists.
16:11
Speaker 1: What the hell? I don't know. I looked back one up.
16:15
Speaker 1: Yet that's a trip, hey man, Independent artists, Man, they understand.
16:19
Speaker 1: We're juggling out here. Baby, you better be ready, Jack.
16:22
Speaker 1: I remember there was a story about a woman that
16:24
Speaker 1: said you scammed her and all this stuff. You she
16:27
Speaker 1: took out all these loans for you. Yeah, man, she strike.
16:29
Speaker 1: We're still kicking in yellow now, you know, it'd be
16:32
Speaker 1: those those hot days. Man, you do things that you
16:34
Speaker 1: wish you can take back down, but they don't understand
16:36
Speaker 1: how to end of that game go, you know, just
16:38
Speaker 1: stull people put up by the frustration. It ain't done.
16:41
Speaker 1: Now you've said that, people still feel threatened by you.
16:44
Speaker 1: Other artists and having done songs to you, are they
16:46
Speaker 1: people you've reached out to that you wanted to work
16:48
Speaker 1: with And I ain't reached out to nobody. People reached
16:51
Speaker 1: out to me. We did the songs, and that sounds
16:53
Speaker 1: so dope on they still ain't using the songs, you
16:56
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Some of the biggest records they
16:58
Speaker 1: that took you over, not really the biggest fuckers they
17:01
Speaker 1: took off or you probably ain't even Yeah, you know
17:04
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, man, that's cool. Though. I love
17:07
Speaker 1: the competition man, because they boys know he ain't going nowhere.
17:10
Speaker 1: He gonna have that belt, he gonna have that helm,
17:12
Speaker 1: and if he had a show with me, please let
17:14
Speaker 1: me be going before him. Well with some of the
17:16
Speaker 1: issues like they wasn't because ye went against and it
17:19
Speaker 1: was right, It wasn't even it wasn't even really like
17:22
Speaker 1: that kill him on their own tracks. I'm talking about
17:25
Speaker 1: D D. Tim on their own tracks. Come on, man,
17:27
Speaker 1: check out my feature of resume. Man, you know what
17:30
Speaker 1: I mean. Man, ain't nobody ever drowned me. That's what
17:36
Speaker 1: it should do. But man, it made people now say, no,
17:38
Speaker 1: I don't want them next to me, you know what
17:40
Speaker 1: I mean? And that's crazy. Man. They ain't how I
17:42
Speaker 1: came up in the game. If I knew it was
17:44
Speaker 1: gonna be like that, I wanted to did them songs
17:46
Speaker 1: with y'all. I'm on everybody first album that came out
17:48
Speaker 1: of Atlanta. If you popped and you came out of Atlanta,
17:51
Speaker 1: you had to come and get a song from Pastor
17:53
Speaker 1: Troy on that first album. Man. But they didn't return
17:55
Speaker 1: to favor. They don't even return the favor. They ain't
17:57
Speaker 1: return the favor, you know. Man, Come on, man, we
17:59
Speaker 1: had just knocked off You don't think we could have
18:01
Speaker 1: knocked off any and everything trying to come up on
18:03
Speaker 1: that leveel. That just one approach I took. Man. We
18:06
Speaker 1: tried to go up and get into New York. And
18:08
Speaker 1: I'm one artist. Man. We need some more art. We
18:09
Speaker 1: need allies in here. After we built up the allies,
18:13
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I got it back, you know,
18:15
Speaker 1: what I mean. I know you can see it that
18:18
Speaker 1: Nori were ready remix happened crazy, man, Just Nori caught
18:21
Speaker 1: me at a concert. Man. We were like in North
18:23
Speaker 1: Carolina or something like that. Man, it was like the
18:25
Speaker 1: rough ride of the tour. They had threw me on
18:26
Speaker 1: that joint. Man, and he saw how crazy they was.
18:28
Speaker 1: Asking down now. He was like, yo, I need to
18:31
Speaker 1: be on that remix. I was like, you want to
18:33
Speaker 1: get on no more playing GA? Yeah, Man, I'm with it.
18:36
Speaker 1: I don't need nothing fun me let's go. I was like, man,
18:39
Speaker 1: that's dope because that was my first time. You know,
18:41
Speaker 1: that's when I started seeing that it was it was sticking,
18:45
Speaker 1: you know what I mean that it's sticking. What man,
18:47
Speaker 1: we're spreading up out of Georgia. No more playing GA.
18:49
Speaker 1: We're in North Carolina, were in Va La DC. Man,
18:54
Speaker 1: DC is probably one of mine still top markets now. Man,
18:57
Speaker 1: they just love a kind of music. Was he was
19:00
Speaker 1: on Jude j Allick Show twice. Yeah, fulfilling the show
19:03
Speaker 1: up for a show that about man. Judge Jallack is
19:07
Speaker 1: real cool. Man, that's my homie, man dog. When they
19:09
Speaker 1: were doing that stuff, Man, it was kind of really Uh,
19:12
Speaker 1: it was all I'm looking at the national promotion. I'm independent, man,
19:15
Speaker 1: you can't beat that kind of national promo. Man. Some
19:18
Speaker 1: of little shows that they were talking about. Man, you
19:19
Speaker 1: know when you do those little shows like that, they
19:21
Speaker 1: pick up whatever descriptancies it is or whatever I need
19:23
Speaker 1: the TV time, the whole love and guard. Then talk
19:26
Speaker 1: about this movie we was Homeboys and all that stuff. Man,
19:28
Speaker 1: So that one of the shows that I missed was real,
19:32
Speaker 1: was real Homeboy had a show man like I had
19:35
Speaker 1: problems in Augusta, Georgia. Man, You know what I mean.
19:37
Speaker 1: It's hard in your hometown. A lot of people die
19:40
Speaker 1: in their hometown. Rest and piece to change. Don't be
19:42
Speaker 1: all those people like that. Man, It's real hard where
19:44
Speaker 1: you come from. People don't get it. And HOMEBA just
19:46
Speaker 1: had a show book in one area, but it was
19:49
Speaker 1: on the same radio frequency as Augustus. Man. These boys
19:53
Speaker 1: can hear this, man, These boys can ride thirty minutes
19:55
Speaker 1: down the street. You know what I mean. I just
19:56
Speaker 1: didn't feel good about that show. You know what I mean?
19:59
Speaker 1: One thing number one man, you know what I mean.
20:01
Speaker 1: So damn what you're talking about. You're gonna miss out
20:03
Speaker 1: on what my family's gonna miss on of I don't
20:06
Speaker 1: make it back home so like that smart problems like
20:09
Speaker 1: that or no, man, dog, I didn't kept it so smooth.
20:14
Speaker 1: I know that if Augusta is the only place I have,
20:18
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not the whole city of Augusta. It's
20:20
Speaker 1: just those couple of people. Man. You just can't put
20:21
Speaker 1: yourself in them situations. Man, why would I go down
20:24
Speaker 1: here with these foods shooting back and forth? And I
20:26
Speaker 1: can go and enjoy this beautiful world with all this
20:28
Speaker 1: piece of hand, right, I ain't just ain't gonna gold,
20:31
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You ain't pick up the
20:32
Speaker 1: phone and try to call anybody like hey man, let's
20:33
Speaker 1: look man, dog. Now the legend is so big with it, man,
20:36
Speaker 1: it ain't nobody to even call these now. It's the
20:39
Speaker 1: one down to a little bjans and babies and stuff. Man,
20:42
Speaker 1: they're telling me, I gotta what it's called no flies
20:45
Speaker 1: on and stuff. I'm in the city. They're telling me,
20:47
Speaker 1: I got a no flies one. I was like, yeah,
20:48
Speaker 1: it's rough out here. I'm here with a no flies one.
20:53
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, it's rough. So much love to Augusta, man,
20:56
Speaker 1: you know, I take pride in it just from being
20:58
Speaker 1: where I made my start from but I was from Atlanta.
21:00
Speaker 1: That's why I took all the pride in Georgia. Man,
21:02
Speaker 1: I didn't come with the just atl atl I put
21:05
Speaker 1: the attention on the state as opposed to just the city.
21:09
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Augusta mean a lot to me.
21:11
Speaker 1: Atlanta had outcast goodie mob Master p all those you know,
21:15
Speaker 1: his presence was real strong in Atlanta. But Augusta, two
21:17
Speaker 1: hours down the road, they didn't have anybody. So I
21:20
Speaker 1: took a lot of my Atlanta game and just applied
21:23
Speaker 1: it down there in Augusta and took my game back
21:26
Speaker 1: up the road to Atlanta. Now I'm in the game
21:28
Speaker 1: with something I couldn't accomplish straight up right there from
21:30
Speaker 1: the city. You know what I mean. You did a
21:31
Speaker 1: lot of that in South Carolina to South Carolina, Man,
21:34
Speaker 1: Columbia forty eight Man those boys and forty eight Man
21:36
Speaker 1: Bluff Road. Those boys my first show that I did
21:39
Speaker 1: in Columbia, Man in ninety eight, ninety nine, those boys
21:42
Speaker 1: at my last show I did in Columbia last weekend,
21:44
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And that's just real dope, man.
21:46
Speaker 1: I just they just really became like family to me. Man,
21:49
Speaker 1: across the southeast man from Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, Florida.
21:55
Speaker 1: I do so well down south and get so much
21:58
Speaker 1: love down south that I really don't have to do
22:00
Speaker 1: a lot of stretching. Man. I'm booked up every weekend
22:02
Speaker 1: running around. See. Did you see we don't have to
22:04
Speaker 1: do club concert venues like they might necessarily have to
22:08
Speaker 1: do up here. Man. It's just enough clubs to go Thursday, Friday,
22:11
Speaker 1: Saturday night, man, and we get it on down there.
22:13
Speaker 1: Did you ever really have a double wire trailer in Columbia?
22:15
Speaker 1: Somebody told it was just an RV trailer forty eight? Yeah. Man,
22:22
Speaker 1: I just come out there on the RV and spread
22:24
Speaker 1: it out on the road, just kick it with them
22:25
Speaker 1: boys much. It was happy you already know. Now, how
22:29
Speaker 1: do you feel about the Confederate flag coming down? Because
22:31
Speaker 1: you still have the flag in your video giving you
22:33
Speaker 1: a little John? Yeah. Man, you know what when I
22:36
Speaker 1: when I look at that man with the whole thing,
22:38
Speaker 1: me being down there man and that flag. Man, we
22:40
Speaker 1: see it so much, We see it so often down there, man,
22:43
Speaker 1: But it had almost gotten to a point where it
22:48
Speaker 1: was it was kind of a sleeping giant itself. You
22:51
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Well, that joint was all right,
22:53
Speaker 1: it's hanging, but it really wasn't affecting us like that
22:56
Speaker 1: happened to you know what I mean, well know to it?
22:58
Speaker 1: Did we know what it represent? Whatever? Man, we're gonna
23:01
Speaker 1: knew all these years, my whole lifetime and thing, but
23:03
Speaker 1: hold of flying, you know what I mean? Down south.
23:05
Speaker 1: But when they put all this attention on it, it
23:08
Speaker 1: made people show their pride and allegiance to it even more,
23:13
Speaker 1: you feel man, That's what I didn't like about it,
23:15
Speaker 1: because now the person that had one flag got five
23:18
Speaker 1: flags on the back of his truck. You know what
23:20
Speaker 1: I mean. The NASCAR event. I went to a NASCAR
23:23
Speaker 1: event last year, Man, American flags, a couple of Confederate flags. Okay,
23:28
Speaker 1: it's cool. After they took that down that nixt NASCAR race.
23:32
Speaker 1: You should have saw it, you know what I mean,
23:34
Speaker 1: everybody and the MoMA, the kids and everybody showing off
23:38
Speaker 1: that pride. So sometimes I feel like we woke asleeping giant. Man.
23:42
Speaker 1: I wish it was something that we could have just
23:43
Speaker 1: kept on saying, shooting a bird that like we've been
23:46
Speaker 1: doing for all these years. You know what I mean,
23:48
Speaker 1: what did it mean to you when you had it
23:49
Speaker 1: in your videos like you and John Man it meant
23:51
Speaker 1: to me? Or y'all better watch out, we're coming. We're
23:54
Speaker 1: getting some legit money. Y'all can't keep on locking us
23:56
Speaker 1: up and banging us up at the courthouse where this
23:58
Speaker 1: thing flying to get legit and I threw it on
24:01
Speaker 1: into the camera that it hit the ground or whatever.
24:04
Speaker 1: When you see people now that you think that they're
24:06
Speaker 1: racist when they flight, you know how you said, they
24:09
Speaker 1: do it even more now like oh this, we know
24:11
Speaker 1: what y'all think about. You know what? Man. Me, being
24:14
Speaker 1: a historian that I am, I try to find. I
24:19
Speaker 1: try to find. I try to find our whole story
24:22
Speaker 1: in it. Man. A lot of people don't know that
24:24
Speaker 1: a lot of black soldiers in that Carolina area, man
24:27
Speaker 1: fought for the Confederacy for their freedom. You know what
24:30
Speaker 1: I mean, Man, soldiers slave on't stepping them. Look the
24:33
Speaker 1: tide chaining the war. We're losing. If the South, if
24:36
Speaker 1: we win, you would be free. Come on, man, those
24:39
Speaker 1: guys slave, they were like man, freedom, you know what
24:42
Speaker 1: I mean? It could have been one of our grandfather
24:43
Speaker 1: could have been one of yours. You know, they fought
24:45
Speaker 1: for the Confederacy, but it wasn't nothing about fighting for
24:48
Speaker 1: the Confederacy. It was just all about freedom. So for me,
24:51
Speaker 1: I just try to find a pride in it. Even myself.
24:53
Speaker 1: I just say, yeah, yeah, y'all flying for my grandfather.
24:56
Speaker 1: He fought for it too. Absolutely, we were pre shoot
25:00
Speaker 1: you joining us man, gangster man. I appreciate y'all. Man,
25:02
Speaker 1: y'all know, we go way back gangsters and what do
25:04
Speaker 1: you want to see? Atlanta Gogo? It's more funny because
25:05
Speaker 1: we want to see what do you want to see
25:06
Speaker 1: Atlanta go in the future? Oh man, dog to the
25:10
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Make sure y'all check out. We was Homeboys,
25:20
Speaker 1: and we was Homeboys dot Com. And we got a
25:21
Speaker 1: part one, part two to this little independent movie I shot. Man.
25:24
Speaker 1: I'll stay down with its yea mixtape man, Crown roy
25:28
Speaker 1: is six Man, I brought you all the whole gift
25:30
Speaker 1: package Homeboys. We was Homeboys, Man. It was just something
25:34
Speaker 1: that I always wanted to do, shoot an independent movie. Man,
25:36
Speaker 1: come on, Universe, and I'm putting millions of dollars in
25:38
Speaker 1: my face, I might as well give it back in
25:40
Speaker 1: a movie. So it just only makes sense, you know,
25:43
Speaker 1: Atlanta Man, it's the new Hollywood of the South. Man.
25:45
Speaker 1: They're really shooting a lot of movies down South. Man.
25:47
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna really be the next transition in
25:50
Speaker 1: the city. Man, come on, it's fifty million rappers. I
25:53
Speaker 1: better figure out something else. Do you feel like those
25:55
Speaker 1: shows in Atlanta represent like all the reality shows, how
25:57
Speaker 1: representative of Atlanta? Do you think? Um Real House of
26:01
Speaker 1: Atlanta Love and Hip Hop even had the Atlanta reality show? Man,
26:04
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not a real big fan of it. Man.
26:06
Speaker 1: Of course they didn't step to me numerous sounds about
26:09
Speaker 1: doing love It. I bet he did. Man. Nico is
26:12
Speaker 1: not about to be be me up loads, man, But
26:16
Speaker 1: what about your own show? That's what I'm more so
26:18
Speaker 1: thinking about. Man, I'm really thinking about doing something with
26:20
Speaker 1: my dad, man, Pastor Troy, and Pastor Troy just letting
26:22
Speaker 1: me what I do and everything, how we rock out together,
26:26
Speaker 1: because it seems like you have an interesting life. It's
26:28
Speaker 1: very interesting, man, It's real dope. Man. I just love
26:30
Speaker 1: being independent. Man. Come on, a lot of independent artists
26:33
Speaker 1: don't have this kind of reach. But would you be
26:36
Speaker 1: willing to put everything like your kids and your family?
26:39
Speaker 1: You know what, man, you gotta be really careful with
26:41
Speaker 1: your kids. Man, Look at that. You know, I heard
26:43
Speaker 1: y'all talking, you know, a little bit earlier, but you
26:45
Speaker 1: just gotta that's kind of a touchy thing that y'all
26:47
Speaker 1: want to know about Pastor Troy, or you want to
26:49
Speaker 1: know about Mica. Now, Pastor Troy would put out there
26:52
Speaker 1: for this play. Y'all can have them, man, and do
26:54
Speaker 1: whatever y'all want to, but you gotta keep something for yourself.
26:57
Speaker 1: Yeah right, all right, Well it's Pastor Troy, It's the
26:59
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Good morning,