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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, April 27 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jaguars did Jack Jack Wars did Jack Wars Time? Actually,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Time starts right now. Welcome in Jaguars Drive Time Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: brought to you by Jet Home Loans, and we have
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  Speaker 1: a big night ahead on Thursday, the Duval Draft Party
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  Speaker 1: right here at c I A A bank Field And
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  Speaker 1: you heard it here first. Here are the four players
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  Speaker 1: that will be joining that draft party. Josh Allen, d J. Chark,
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  Speaker 1: Leavisca Channel and James Robinson will all be attendance on stage.
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  Speaker 1: So it is a sellout crowd. So if you have tickets,
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  Speaker 1: be sure to show up on Thursday. Now you have it.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in Jack's Drive Time. Only two days away from
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  Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, and we are very busy. Two guests
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  Speaker 1: here on the show, Albert Rearing, James Palmer. So let's
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  Speaker 1: get right into big things before I even show my
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  Speaker 1: buddy John over here. Party. It's gonna be a big night.
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  Speaker 1: John will be on stage dance saying that's the more
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  Speaker 1: reason to come. Please know that's not really opening. Don't
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  Speaker 1: come from back here We go Big things. Big thing
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  Speaker 1: one is the most important decision. Shod Con and Urban
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  Speaker 1: sitting together in a recent New York Times article. Look
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  Speaker 1: at them laughing, having a good time. Mr Khan said
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  Speaker 1: in that article, the number one pick will define the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars for the rest of his life. Jumps off the page.
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  Speaker 1: That's a bold statement, but he is not lying. Mr
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  Speaker 1: Osier had a phone call with the Jaguars owner this morning,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll talk about that big thing to his immediate value.
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  Speaker 1: We've been talking the past week about how do you
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  Speaker 1: balance value in need when you need so many things?
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  Speaker 1: How is that going to work? And we got some
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  Speaker 1: clarity from Coach Meyer. Value that's gonna be number one,
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  Speaker 1: but those first or draft picks going to have to
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  Speaker 1: be some need as well. Absolutely, I see that we
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  Speaker 1: not only have to make those picks, we gotta add value,
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  Speaker 1: immediate value to our team. That's the way Trent, myself
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  Speaker 1: and our coaching staff look. That's how important these picks are.
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  Speaker 1: So we're not looking We're looking at these picks to
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  Speaker 1: make instant impact, especially those first four picks. Big thing
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  Speaker 1: three is need for speed. I particularly catch myself because
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  Speaker 1: all my mock drafts I have defense. Of course, you
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  Speaker 1: need so many defensive positions. But then Coach Meyer says this,
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  Speaker 1: and I have to rethink everything. I know that's every year.
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  Speaker 1: You know that that that will be a NonStop cycle
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  Speaker 1: of speed, speed wins. We've addressed of it and with
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  Speaker 1: Doorset Marvin Jones agnew off the top of my head
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  Speaker 1: and we planned to uh, that will be a cycle
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  Speaker 1: of the Draguar is looking always looking for speed. Big
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  Speaker 1: plays were absent in or on offense last year here
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  Speaker 1: and we have to get better and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: it Speedler. There's a lot a lot more than speed
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  Speaker 1: involved in mathlet Obviously, speed is a big piece of that.
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  Speaker 1: And there you have it. Possibly a wide receiver, explosive
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver could be when you hear Coach Meyer say that.
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  Speaker 1: So let's go back up to big thing one, which
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  Speaker 1: was about shod Khan and Urban Meyer and the talks
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  Speaker 1: they're having as night one of the draft. Is this Thursday, John,
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  Speaker 1: you were on the phone with the Jaguars owner. I was,
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  Speaker 1: and and I don't want to paint this is just
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  Speaker 1: being me. It was myself and well, I'm a big deal,
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  Speaker 1: but in this instant here's myself and some of the
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  Speaker 1: local beat writers. Um, he didn't say anything quite as
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  Speaker 1: eye popping as it's gonna be defining the franchise for
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  Speaker 1: the rest of his life. But he said some interesting
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  Speaker 1: things along the lines of this. Uh. I asked him
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  Speaker 1: if he was having fun with this, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's an exciting time. He started off the call talking
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  Speaker 1: about the excitement around the franchise. He said, basically, if
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  Speaker 1: you're not excited about this, you maybe haven't had your coffee.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a great time to be alive. Moment is
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  Speaker 1: also what he said, and I think that does capture
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  Speaker 1: the feeling around the franchise right now. It captures the energy,
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  Speaker 1: it captures the importance of what's going on this week.
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  Speaker 1: He understands and is very conscious that this is a
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  Speaker 1: turning point moment for the franchise. Probably the biggest news
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  Speaker 1: was he was asked if he had met with any
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  Speaker 1: of the prospects. He said only zoom calls and Mark
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  Speaker 1: lo En course asked me if he could name names,
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  Speaker 1: and the response was the usual suspects. He's been lining
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  Speaker 1: up the usual suspects and emphasized about the quarterback position.
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  Speaker 1: From my standpoint, I don't want to screw this up.
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  Speaker 1: He set so probably hasn't been talking to as many
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  Speaker 1: non quarterbacks, but with that key franchise piece to the puzzle.
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  Speaker 1: He has been involved with those calls interesting thing. He
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  Speaker 1: also said about the quarterback and he volunteered this. Urban
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  Speaker 1: and Trent Vaalky said did not go into this with
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  Speaker 1: a preconceived notion of who they would select. So again
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  Speaker 1: it was emphasizing the fact that they tried to do
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  Speaker 1: all the research. I think we all think it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be Trevor Lawrence. I get that, but his thought was
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  Speaker 1: they went into this with an open mind, and I
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  Speaker 1: think it's why you didn't hear Oban Meyer talking publicly
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  Speaker 1: about anything for a couple of weeks after the process.
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  Speaker 1: On Urban Meyer specifically, he said, he walks the talk.
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  Speaker 1: He's been incredibly impressed with Urban's intelligence, not just football intelligence,
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  Speaker 1: but the focus that he brings the job, which I
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  Speaker 1: think we all have schlenn But that was sort of
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  Speaker 1: the sum up of shads half an hour with the
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  Speaker 1: media today. Very nice did his due diligence with quarterback research.
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  Speaker 1: You'd get that you wanted to make sure that if
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  Speaker 1: it is Trevor Lawrence, you want to be sure that
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  Speaker 1: he That was interesting, because Shot is pretty transparent on
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  Speaker 1: these things. I think he would have said, hey, we
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  Speaker 1: pretty much knew it was gonna be Trevor all along,
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  Speaker 1: but he said that you know these too. As Trent
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  Speaker 1: and Irvan said publicly several times, due diligence was the key.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like they've settled on the guy we're all
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  Speaker 1: talking about, but they didn't do that on January. I
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  Speaker 1: love to hear it's all right. So John Osier spoke
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  Speaker 1: this now for about three months, and the last I
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  Speaker 1: can't imagine the last three four weeks, you know, this
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  Speaker 1: has been our entire life in that room, watching video
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  Speaker 1: stack on the board, So trusting the board is key.
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  Speaker 1: I'm at the point almost there that I will trust it.
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  Speaker 1: But as a coach, I can see where you, uh,
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  Speaker 1: know that the man is honest and it's refreshing. The
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  Speaker 1: nerves are there, but they're going away ever so steadily.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jaguars Drive Time. Ashland Sullivan, John Ousier,
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  Speaker 1: and Albert Bree are joining us right now. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much for joining us today. You got already so, Albert,
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  Speaker 1: we spoke at the Senior Bowl right aft and Urban
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  Speaker 1: Meyer had been hired and there was all this hype
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  Speaker 1: and now it is the week it's finally here. And
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  Speaker 1: you actually spoke to Shod Khan on Monday and I
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  Speaker 1: laugh when he said that he's a really popular guy
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  Speaker 1: right now, because you would think he's always popular. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well now, and this was that was actually in reference
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  Speaker 1: to you know, when they had when you guys had
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  Speaker 1: the job opening there and um, you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting because you know, the Jaguars aren't the Packers
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  Speaker 1: of the Steelers, of the Giants and so um, you
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  Speaker 1: know what sort of situation would make it that attractive
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  Speaker 1: a job opening. It's not hard to see, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's multiple picks in the first round, the second round,
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  Speaker 1: the fourth round, the fifth round. It's the number one
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  Speaker 1: overall pick, with the generational quarterback prospect available, it's the
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  Speaker 1: most cap space in the league. It's some promising young players,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like Josh Allen and Lavisco tion al um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and and Cable. I'm gonna Butcher's name, Cable On.
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  Speaker 1: We know it's tough. Yeah, yeah, So, I mean you
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  Speaker 1: look at the roster and the roster has some you know,
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  Speaker 1: talented young players on it. A long way to go,
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  Speaker 1: but a ton of resources to build with there. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what Joan was saying, was like that he felt
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  Speaker 1: like popular because people were reaching out to him wanting
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  Speaker 1: the job because of all of those sorts of resources
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  Speaker 1: that that that that we're going to be there to build.
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  Speaker 1: Albert In and talking to you at the Senior Bowl
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  Speaker 1: and in reading your stuff throughout the offseason, you've never
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  Speaker 1: really wavered or had any doubt that it was gonna
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  Speaker 1: be Trevor Lawrence. Um, you know, and instinct your knowledge
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  Speaker 1: of Urban Meyer or sort of why was that the
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  Speaker 1: case that you were so sure all along? Because I
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  Speaker 1: think it's been the case for two years, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I I I just don't think that there was a
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  Speaker 1: question here. And you know, I can still remember Andrew Luck, Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know when he came out and we had known
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  Speaker 1: he was going to be the first overall pick for
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  Speaker 1: well over a year. Um. In fact, like if Andrew
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  Speaker 1: Luck could come out in two thousand and eleven, he
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  Speaker 1: would have been the first overall pick over Cam Newton
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  Speaker 1: to the Carolina Panthers. And so I think it's the
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  Speaker 1: same sort of thing where, um, you know, you've got
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  Speaker 1: a prospect on the radar that's been on the radar
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  Speaker 1: for a long time, that's handled being on a big
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  Speaker 1: stage for a long time, that's handled the pressure of
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  Speaker 1: you know, being thought of that way by NFL people
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  Speaker 1: for a long time. UM, you know, and really you know,
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  Speaker 1: just talking to enough teams about this and talking to
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  Speaker 1: enough people who do this for a living, who scout
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  Speaker 1: college players for a living, Um, you know, most of
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  Speaker 1: them agree that it's not hyperbole to put him in
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  Speaker 1: that rarefied air. And I think there's only been like
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  Speaker 1: four of these in my lifetime. Um, John Elway, Peyton Manning,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Luck and now Trevor Lawrence. Um, it doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna make it, doesn't. Nothing's a football's football, But um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think as far as just a guy
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  Speaker 1: that you'd feel comfortable with, UM, that isn't going to miss. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is on the level those three guys were
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  Speaker 1: coming into the NFL. One guy who's been a very
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  Speaker 1: complimentary has been Urban Meyer. And we always talk about
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  Speaker 1: there was kind of this m O when coach Meyer
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  Speaker 1: got this job, that he had this my way or
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  Speaker 1: the highway attitude. And we've been so gracious that he
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  Speaker 1: has been so honest, want impressed conferences, but he always
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  Speaker 1: admits what he doesn't know and needs to work on,
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  Speaker 1: which has kind of been surprising to us. Is it
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  Speaker 1: surprising to you? Yeah, I mean I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of it from him, just because
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  Speaker 1: you know, at the college level, there wasn't a ton
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  Speaker 1: he didn't know, you know. I mean think by the
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  Speaker 1: time he got to Florida. You know, you know, he
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  Speaker 1: knows the ins and outs of recruiting, probably had to
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  Speaker 1: learn the SEC a little bit, but um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: knows what it takes to build a successful program. And
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  Speaker 1: obviously a lot of what he did at Florida he
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  Speaker 1: could carry right over to Ohio State. And again that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean he has no just things, but just as
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  Speaker 1: far as the mechanics the job, knowing what goes into
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  Speaker 1: making a successful program at that level, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he had so much background in that, and so a
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  Speaker 1: lot of this is new to him. And I think
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  Speaker 1: it's good news, you know for people in Jacksonville that
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  Speaker 1: he is willing to learn at his age, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because there have been guys that have come from the
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  Speaker 1: college level and gone into the NFL who thought, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna plug the way that I do business
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  Speaker 1: and have done business for a long time into an
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  Speaker 1: NFL program, and we've seen cases where it really hasn't worked.
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  Speaker 1: And so you know, I I think that the biggest question,
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  Speaker 1: of course, is always going to be with a coach
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  Speaker 1: coming from one level to another, is you know, can
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  Speaker 1: he make that transition from college to the pros? And
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  Speaker 1: a big part of it, you know, in my mind,
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  Speaker 1: is being able to adjust to some of the differences
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to team building, and then being able
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  Speaker 1: to adjust to some of the differences and how a
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  Speaker 1: locker room might work with older people, and the fact
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  Speaker 1: that he's willing to learn in those areas. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a big bus and and and should be an
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  Speaker 1: encouraging thing for all you guys to hear. However, yours
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  Speaker 1: tied in with the draft? Is anybody right now? What
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  Speaker 1: do you hear about what Trevor Lawrence is going to
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  Speaker 1: need to do at the NFL level to still improve?
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  Speaker 1: Obviously he can't stay the same players a Clemson Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and we all know his strengths. What are you hearing
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  Speaker 1: that needs to happen for him to sort of reach
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  Speaker 1: where people think he can go. I think there's a
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  Speaker 1: natural growth that needs to happen, you know. Um. And
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  Speaker 1: so you know, Clemson's offense isn't the most complex offense
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  Speaker 1: in college football. UM, So you know, I think that
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be something of a learning curve UM
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  Speaker 1: coming in and working with Darryl Bevil and Brian Schottenheimer
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  Speaker 1: and Jacksonville. So that's that's that's number one. Um, but
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  Speaker 1: that's I mean a lot of a lot of quarterback
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  Speaker 1: space that going into the league, um you know. And
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  Speaker 1: then I think there are a couple of mechanical things
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  Speaker 1: that maybe he needs to clean up a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: um you know. I I think one thing that's sort
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  Speaker 1: of come up consistently when I've talked to coaches about this,
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  Speaker 1: who who assessed him, is that you know, he gets
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  Speaker 1: tightened up his delivery um, which is the case for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of guys who are six ft five, six
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  Speaker 1: ft six that are long levered um that you want
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  Speaker 1: to get like maybe a little bit more compact and
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  Speaker 1: efficient with your delivery. So that's one other thing that's
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  Speaker 1: sort of come up, you know. And then I think
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  Speaker 1: so much of this is gonna boil down to the
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  Speaker 1: situation around him. Um you know. I I think if
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  Speaker 1: you look back over the last years, all the guys
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  Speaker 1: we've gone in the first round, so much of it
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  Speaker 1: really does come down to how, you know, how these
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  Speaker 1: guys entered the league, what sort of situation they're entering into.
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  Speaker 1: And to me, like Patrick Mahomes is a perfect example,
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  Speaker 1: um you know. And I'm not saying Patrick wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: made it but I mean, you couldn't have drawn up
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  Speaker 1: a more perfect scenario than the one that he walked
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  Speaker 1: into when he came into the NFL. UM. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he had the red shirt year. Um, of course, so
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  Speaker 1: he had that opportunity that a lot of guys other
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  Speaker 1: guys don't. He got to learn from Alex Smith. Um,
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  Speaker 1: he has a generational play caller and quarterback developer, and
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  Speaker 1: Andy Reid his offensive coordinator, Matt nag He wound up
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  Speaker 1: becoming a head coach the next year. Um. And then
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  Speaker 1: you know he's playing behind Mitch Schwartz and Eric Fisher
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  Speaker 1: at the tackle positions, veterans center and Mitch Morse, and
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  Speaker 1: you know he's throwing a Tyreek hill and uh and
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  Speaker 1: and Travis Kelsey. Oh, by the way, his first year
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  Speaker 1: playing in two thousand eighteen, the Chiefs draft a kid
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  Speaker 1: who who wins the rushing title. So you know, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things went right, and so I think that
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  Speaker 1: that something we sort of, you know, look the other
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: way on this time of year when we're looking at
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks and whether it's Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson, Justin Fields,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones, or Trey Lance, A lot of whether each
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  Speaker 1: one of those kids is going to make it, and
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  Speaker 1: what they're gonna be ten years from now is going
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• 17:16
  Speaker 1: other thing I would add that I forgot to to
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: kind of put it in there too. I do think
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: that there's a feeling that Trevor Lawrence needs to put
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit more weight onto um. Yeah, obviously he's
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: got a little bit of a skinny build, and so
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I think that that's something that that the teams have
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: talked about internally when they've discussed Trevor Lawrence is what
• 17:35
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• 17:37
  Speaker 1: that the protoy he was around two sixteen. I think
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: teams would probably um would have liked to have seen
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: him closer maybe thirty. And I'm sure getting into an
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: NFL program and through you know, some some natural growth,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: he'll get there. Well. Luckily, the ice cream at the
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: facility here is real good and that would be handled
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: rather quickly. Albert Brier, thank you so much for joining us.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: We know you're super busy this week, so appreciate it. Awesome.
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• 20:37
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• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Gino Hayes has passed away this morning at age thirty three.
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  Speaker 1: we shift focus to beyond number one. And the title
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  Speaker 1: is misleading because we are focusing on Number one today,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: which is Trevor Lawrence, which we all presume to be
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: in how this system will work or fit around him.
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  Speaker 1: So we spoke to NFL analyst dan Orlovski, who was
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: once an NFL quarterback, and he said, maybe freelancing is
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the way to go with this. I think a big
• 21:36
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• 21:40
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• 21:46
  Speaker 1: urging him to be more creative when stuff isn't there,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to play a little bit freelance. Now, I wouldn't tell
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Um mac jones to do that because I don't think
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: he has the athleticism or the physical talent to do it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Trevor absolutely does. I think he's got the physical talent
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: and the athleticism to kind of break pocket a little
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: bit more and get out in space a little bit
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: more and have the arm strength and the power to
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: make some of those wild throws down field. Cause it's
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: not a strength of his because he didn't really do
• 22:13
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• 22:18
  Speaker 1: thought it stood out, And Albert Breer basically said the
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: same thing that Clemson's offense isn't really known for their complexity,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and a lot of times he was in that pocket
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: as that pure pocket passer, and he's that athletic that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: maybe he can shift out of the pocket and kind
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of break some things down and maybe that can happen
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville, and he's gonna need to do that,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: And he uh didn't appear that he changed plays a
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: lot of the line of scrimmage a whole lot. They
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: didn't need to do that. When I was talking to
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: draft people at the Senior Bowl and right after the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, what you heard on Trevor was incredibly intelligent,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: incredibly football smart, incredibly willing to work all the things
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: that you want to be able to make the adjustments
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: these guys are talking about he should be able to do.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I think anybody's worried about what he didn't do it
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Clemson causing him not to be able to do it
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Whatever he was asked to do, he did,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and there's every confidence that he'll be able to translate
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: that to the NFL. Yeah, it's just the thing that
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: we do every single week where we try to find
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the weaknesses and something's popping up, we're going to hone
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: in on it. But in no ways do we believe
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that that can't get done well. The important thing for
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: him for everything you've heard is it sounds like he's
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a guy who welcomes that, and he's a guy who's
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: doing that himself. That's what the great quarterbacks early in
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: their careers have to do. They have to have some
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: failures on the field, figure out what teams are doing
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: against them. Then they have to adjust to it. At
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: that point you'll find out how good he can be.
• 23:44
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• 23:46
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• 23:49
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  Speaker 1: the moment. Correct like it's kind of stax, right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: through what this coverage is gonna look like. Yeah, well,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I mean there's a rumor you guys have the number
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  Speaker 1: And so we've been at the stadium and I have
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  Speaker 1: But I'm super excited that tomorrow we're going to get
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  Speaker 1: to you know, see some of the military and and
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  Speaker 1: and talk with them a little bit. And then Thursday
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be just you know, Thursday's a long one,
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  Speaker 1: you know, from Good Morning Football all the way through
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  Speaker 1: the end of the draft. Getting a chance to talk
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: to Urban and Shot about what you know, what's gonna
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: go on with with the first pick, and obviously as well, Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a whole bunch of TV. NFL network is
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  Speaker 1: more or less wall to wall right now, from the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the day within with Good Morning Football to
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day with with total access about
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  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with each of these picks, and just
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  Speaker 1: countless people breaking them down. And I'm trying to do
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: my best here. Uh. And and what Trevor Lawrence I
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: think they're taking him is gonna be with the number
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: one pick? Does your role change at all with the fact,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: as you just mentioned, most people assume that it's going
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: to be Trevor. Uh, does that make your role any
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  Speaker 1: different than maybe somebody who's at the Jets or or
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the some team without all, you know, with more intrigue.
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  Speaker 1: I guess who I'm trying to ask. You're exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: And I think what we try to do now is
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: talk to Trevor, talk about Trevor in as many different
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: ways as we can, about possibly the fit, what Jacksonville
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: has done to make it, you know, a transition that
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: is as smooth as possible for him. But you're right,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of the conversations we're having is because there's
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of debate about what's gonna happen. Right We're
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: talking endlessly what's gonna go on with pick number three,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: because nobody really knows what's gonna happen with the San
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners as they're still playing it pretty close
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: to the vest. So when there's a lot of options,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: obviously those discussions go at length. Most of the conversations
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: we're having here are you know, what is the fit?
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: What is going to happen with Trevor Lawrence right away
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: with his fit with Urban Meyer and and Daryl Bevel
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: in this offense. And then also I think the big
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: thing to debate here is what happens in those next
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: four picks, because I think those are huge, right thirty three,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Those picks have to be impactful players, and you can't
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: make sure that you don't reach for any sort of need.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: You make sure you go with the best value to
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: improve this roster. I think those four picks are really intriguing,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and I'm trying to talk about those just as much
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: as Trevor Lawrence this week. Yeah, your spot on. Coach
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Meyer told us last week that it is a value
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: and need and you're trying to balance that, but those
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: first four picks, you want immediate value with those. And
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you mentioned that everyone is here talking about Jacksonville, and
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I was cracking up at Kyle Brandt this morning on
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Good Morning Football, where he said, it's finally time to
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: talk about Jacksonville and it's kind of weird that everyone's
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: talking about Jacksonville so much. In your opinion, how quick
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: can they turn this around? This was a one in
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: fifteen team last season, and you think that they'll be
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: in the limelight for a while here, Well, certainly Trevor
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Lawrence brings you into the limelighte. I mean, this is
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: a prospect that just doesn't come around. I mean every
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: value or I've Albert on as well, it is really
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: talking about you know, this is the best quarterback prospect
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: we have Steams since Andrew Luck in two thousand twelve.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Now I will be on I haven't had a prospect
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: any sort of value where telling me that they rate
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: them up with Andrew Luck. They put Trevor Lawrence kind
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: of right below where they evaluated Andrew Luck. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that's any slight to that's how good of
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: prospect Andrew was when he came out, and this is
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: kind of the next unicorn to come along, so obviously
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: that puts you in the limelight. We have to win
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: some games, and that's what I think a lot of
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: us are debating and talking about on NFL Network is
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: how is Trevor Lawrence, who has never lost a regular
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: season game? Like, to me, that blows my mind. Since
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: he was a freshman in high school, right he's never
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: lost a regular season game. He has four losses since then.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: And Urban Meyer a guy who has not lost at
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the college level hardly. Ever, how do they handle the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: growing pains of the first portion of this rookie season.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, look at Peyton Manning's rookie season.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: It was it was a very difficult stretch to get through.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: But I think what it did was it showed you
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: how mentally tough Peyton Manning is, and the more evaluators
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I talked to, the mental toughness of Trevor Lawrence is
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: maybe an intangible that isn't talked about very much, and
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be one part we see this
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: rookie season, guys, is is how he handles it and
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: how he handles some of the adversity because honestly, there
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: hasn't really been a whole lot, right, So a guy
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: that is mentally tough as Trevor Lawrence, I think we're
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: gonna go out and see how this year goes about.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: And I think also he's in line to actually like
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: have some success offensively. I think when you walk into
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: a spot of a team like you said, that has
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: lost fifteen games in a row, they have tackles and play,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: they have receivers you'd like a tight end, a pass
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: catching titan. And we'll see how the draft goes in that.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: But I think, you know, he is kind of set
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: up for some success on offense. I don't know if
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: that means wins and losses right now, but I think
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: they're trying to make the transition as smooth as possible.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: It's just how him and Urban handled this first year.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: As they get the ball rolling into what we're saying, Yeah,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: this should be a team that we pay attention to
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: in this season and then the next couple of seasons
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: as they try to put this all together. James, this
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: pick has a chance, and it feels like it's going
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: to be transformative for the franchise and for the city.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I'm curious you guys in yesterday any feel for the
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: vibe around this pick for the excitement, the energy. I
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: know you're in your hotel room. When you've been out
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: of your hotel room. Have you seen any of that yet? Yeah?
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: And specifically I'll beat at the stadium, right, I mean
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: like just being there and seeing how big they're making
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: this for Thursday night. Now every team, well not every team,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: but a lot of teams. Do you know season ticket
• 32:33
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• 32:35
  Speaker 1: suite area and and kind of rub elbows and you know,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: a couple of alumni will be there, and that's usually
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: what happens every year. They sold out tickets not once,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: but twice, and then they're now to seven thousand fans
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: with standing room. I think that buzz around the facility
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: starts to grow. And the other aspect of it is
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: kind of the field around the stadium. With Urban Meyer
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: now running thick, he gives you a different vibe of
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: six ask. I mean no slight to Doug Moron or
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: anybody else that's been here before. Just Urban carries that
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: sense of we're gonna succeed. Like I don't know why
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: you would even question it. I mean, that's kind of
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: how he's always carried himself and you can kind of
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  Speaker 1: feel that around the building. And then you combine that
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  Speaker 1: with this pick. As I mentioned, it's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: player we've all had our eyes on for three years now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he would have been the number one pick
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  Speaker 1: after his freshman season when he won the national championship.
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  Speaker 1: That's how good Trevor Lawrence is. And I think that
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  Speaker 1: aspect of it, the marketing side of it, what the
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: fans have done with the toaster, which I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 1: my hands on that toaster today to watch NFL Network.
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  Speaker 1: This thing is like a toaster from the future, Like
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  Speaker 1: it is not like a normal toaster. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you've seen it's I got a touch screen, it's
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  Speaker 1: got like an LED It's it's unbelievable. And then the
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  Speaker 1: way he went back and you know, went towards the
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  Speaker 1: charities and Jackson Villary, I think those things are all
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  Speaker 1: starting to show you that there's a connection already being
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  Speaker 1: made and he hasn't even been picked yet. Well, James,
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  Speaker 1: are you going to be able to keep that toaster?
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  Speaker 1: That's the precess. That's what I really I gotta talk
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  Speaker 1: dammy about that. I really want to make sure I
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  Speaker 1: can keep this toaster. That's that's the goal. If I
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  Speaker 1: can make this trip, you know, a week away from
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  Speaker 1: the family where my wife has to be a single mom.
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  Speaker 1: If I come back with like a state of the
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  Speaker 1: art toaster, good script, I mean, she might be more
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  Speaker 1: excited when I hit the road, No problem at all. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we hope you get that toaster, and thank you so
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  Speaker 1: much for joining us. We know you're busy. See you guys,
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  Speaker 1: all right. We'll see at the stadium here sometime this week.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: And thank you everyone for tuning in to Jaguars Drive time.
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  Speaker 1: A very busy week ahead the draft Thursday night. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about that party at length, So if you have tickets,
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  Speaker 1: party and all. We'll see you then.