Latest / Sooner or Later Sports / Inside the Sooner Family - Cicily Freia Talks Brent Venables, Todd Bates & Why Oklahoma!
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Today we are joined by an absolute wonderful human being,
- 0:06Speaker 1: and so I am joined by Sicily Frea and Cicily.
- 0:11Speaker 1: I know I always get this wrong, but the mother
- 0:14Speaker 1: of Dominic Williams defensive lineman transfer this year from TCU
- 0:20Speaker 1: to Oklahoma.
- 0:21Speaker 2: So Cicily, how are you.
- 0:24Speaker 3: I'm good, enjoying Oklahoma, trying to get used to the weather.
- 0:28Speaker 3: But other than that, I'm enjoying. I'm good.
- 0:32Speaker 2: The good, good, good, good end.
- 0:33Speaker 1: You've been out of the practice fields, and I know
- 0:36Speaker 1: that's pretty hot too, So you know, we got a
- 0:40Speaker 1: little bit of a cool front moving in, so it'll
- 0:42Speaker 1: be like, instead of like a punishing hot, it'll just
- 0:44Speaker 1: be hot hot.
- 0:45Speaker 3: Oh so it just won't be one hundred and fourteen,
- 0:48Speaker 3: just one hundred.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. Maybe maybe in the mid nineties.
- 0:53Speaker 1: But I am no weather man, so let's let's hop
- 0:57Speaker 1: into this one. So, you know, on the first questions
- 1:00Speaker 1: I always ask people and the parents during these interviews
- 1:03Speaker 1: are about the beginning, because you know, when you put
- 1:06Speaker 1: your kid in athletics, you go out there and all
- 1:10Speaker 1: of a sudden you see hercules, right, you see an athlete,
- 1:14Speaker 1: and that's going to that's going to go NFL and
- 1:16Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer. When when was it with
- 1:19Speaker 1: Dominic that you, you know, early in his childhood that you
- 1:22Speaker 1: were like, hmmm, I think that we got a little
- 1:24Speaker 1: we get a little something here in an athlete.
- 1:28Speaker 3: Honestly, to be honest with you, Dom was always bigger
- 1:32Speaker 3: than everybody else. But I really didn't. I still haven't.
- 1:37Speaker 3: It still hasn't hit me what kind of athlete he is.
- 1:40Speaker 3: I'm still looking at people when he makes plays like
- 1:42Speaker 3: did he mess that up? You know? So I want
- 1:46Speaker 3: to say, though maybe fifth grade, fourth grade ish around
- 1:51Speaker 3: that age, it was like, okay, he likes football, but
- 1:56Speaker 3: it was really just his size that everybody would tell me, oh,
- 2:00Speaker 3: you have a football player on your hands, And it
- 2:04Speaker 3: didn't hit me until, like I said, I'm still wrapping
- 2:07Speaker 3: my head around it. So yeah, we actually went. The
- 2:11Speaker 3: football became Dom's thing because we were actually driving around
- 2:15Speaker 3: southern California trying to find his older brother a team
- 2:19Speaker 3: to play for. And we pulled over and talked to
- 2:22Speaker 3: a coach and Dom was in the car and it
- 2:25Speaker 3: was me and the older brother, Devin, talking to the coach,
- 2:28Speaker 3: and then Dom got out of the car and it
- 2:29Speaker 3: was like this big giant four year old. The coach
- 2:33Speaker 3: was like, who is that. I said, oh, that's the
- 2:35Speaker 3: little brother and he said how old is he? I
- 2:37Speaker 3: said four? He said, oh, yeah, he's playing for us.
- 2:41Speaker 3: So football really wasn't supposed to be Dom's niche, but
- 2:46Speaker 3: it slowly became.
- 2:49Speaker 1: That's that's awesome now as a mother, I mean, I know,
- 2:53Speaker 1: like my wife we have we have currently a six
- 2:56Speaker 1: year old, so like you know, we talked about football
- 2:59Speaker 1: and she's like, I don't know if I want him
- 3:01Speaker 1: in the middle of you know, the football, just because
- 3:03Speaker 1: it's a rough sport. So as a mom, that that
- 3:06Speaker 1: that nurturing nature kind of takes over. Did Dom size
- 3:10Speaker 1: and just you know some of the stuff that you're
- 3:12Speaker 1: hearing from other people, did that kind of like relax
- 3:14Speaker 1: that worry for you?
- 3:16Speaker 3: No, it made it worse. No, he's a freight train
- 3:21Speaker 3: and the heart of the freight train is running the
- 3:23Speaker 3: parder the crashes, so it my nerves are still bad.
- 3:30Speaker 3: At the end of the day though, seeing his happiness
- 3:34Speaker 3: and I know it's a dangerous sport or whatever, but yeah,
- 3:37Speaker 3: at the end of the day, not many people get
- 3:39Speaker 3: to do what they love and make a career out
- 3:42Speaker 3: of it, or you know, even even get through college
- 3:46Speaker 3: with it. So the fact that he's doing what he
- 3:48Speaker 3: really worked hard to do, I mean it outweighs the negative.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely. So you go through fifth grade, he starts
- 3:58Speaker 1: getting you know that, here we go with football. What
- 4:01Speaker 1: were some of the first years like watching him compete?
- 4:04Speaker 1: I mean, was he just I mean I've seen him
- 4:07Speaker 1: at TCU, so I mean like, I can't, I can't
- 4:10Speaker 1: you know, begin to think like what it was like
- 4:11Speaker 1: in fifth grade?
- 4:12Speaker 2: But were you seeing him just toss folks left and right?
- 4:14Speaker 2: And how did that? What did that look like?
- 4:17Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there were people I'm like, oh my god,
- 4:20Speaker 3: this boy is going to have me fighting people's parents.
- 4:23Speaker 3: But you know, it's football, so they knew that what
- 4:26Speaker 3: their kids were signing up for. But he he we yeah,
- 4:29Speaker 3: definitely would just toss people around. He actually started as
- 4:32Speaker 3: a running back, so he was making like ridiculous amount
- 4:37Speaker 3: of touchdowns during games. And I was okay with him
- 4:41Speaker 3: running the ball, but then when I noticed, oh, they're
- 4:44Speaker 3: moving him to the line, what are we doing? And
- 4:48Speaker 3: people were like, no, technically, that's probably the position he's
- 4:51Speaker 3: built for. So it took a while for me to
- 4:54Speaker 3: get used to him helmet to helmeting all the time.
- 4:59Speaker 3: But as he he got better at it, we started
- 5:01Speaker 3: going to different trainers who would kind of reassure me, no, mom,
- 5:04Speaker 3: we're teaching him how to hit correct, like we're trying
- 5:07Speaker 3: to avoid injuries. So it you know, I'm still getting
- 5:12Speaker 3: used to it, but it's it's getting easier.
- 5:17Speaker 1: So when was the first like refrigerator Perry comparison thrown
- 5:20Speaker 1: out with him running or running back?
- 5:21Speaker 2: Did you ever hear that when he.
- 5:23Speaker 3: Was running back? Yeah, all the time they're like, oh,
- 5:27Speaker 3: you have a refrigerator on your hands, but yeah, apparently,
- 5:31Speaker 3: so he don't just have these His legs were huge,
- 5:34Speaker 3: so they're like, either he's going to he's going to
- 5:37Speaker 3: play football or he you know, he has to do
- 5:40Speaker 3: something where he can make some use of those giant legs.
- 5:44Speaker 3: So I knew that he was going to be something.
- 5:47Speaker 3: I just didn't realize it was going to be to
- 5:50Speaker 3: this extent.
- 5:52Speaker 2: That's terrific. That's terrific.
- 5:53Speaker 1: So you see him move over to the you know,
- 5:56Speaker 1: defensive line, and that's that's where his whole goal is
- 6:02Speaker 1: to either I mean just absolutely swallow up the running
- 6:04Speaker 1: back or runish the quarterback, because that's I don't think
- 6:08Speaker 1: that fits his character from what I've seen, you know,
- 6:11Speaker 1: he he doesn't seem like a you know, super aggressive guy.
- 6:14Speaker 2: So like, am I right and stand that?
- 6:17Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dom It bothers me sometimes because I'll hear
- 6:21Speaker 3: him or I'll see it, you know, on the field,
- 6:23Speaker 3: like I'm like, well, he looks really angry. But then
- 6:25Speaker 3: off the field, he's a big, giant teddy bear for real.
- 6:29Speaker 3: So I guess it's it's a good balance for him
- 6:33Speaker 3: because he can go on the field and get his
- 6:35Speaker 3: frustrations out and then he's that mild mannered person off
- 6:39Speaker 3: the field most of the time.
- 6:41Speaker 2: So, you know, mild mannered.
- 6:43Speaker 1: And we had a little bit of a hiccup there,
- 6:45Speaker 1: so hopefully I'll fit that in editing. But that's all right,
- 6:48Speaker 1: mild mannered, you know, off the field, big teddy bear.
- 6:50Speaker 2: I mean absolutely love that.
- 6:53Speaker 1: So high school years, we get towards high school years,
- 6:55Speaker 1: you see the competition, you see parents, you know, being
- 6:58Speaker 1: a little bit more serious where things when in high
- 7:01Speaker 1: school where you like, I mean, I've always known he's good,
- 7:04Speaker 1: but now like now I'm we might have something else here.
- 7:09Speaker 3: So his freshman year, he played for a school that
- 7:13Speaker 3: was kind of like a local football school. Sophomore year,
- 7:17Speaker 3: that school got into some trouble, so it was time
- 7:20Speaker 3: to start looking around for other schools. And it hit
- 7:25Speaker 3: me when school's like hours away were trying to get
- 7:28Speaker 3: my son, and I'm like, what do you mean you
- 7:30Speaker 3: want him to drive two hours to come to high school.
- 7:33Speaker 3: So it hit me then when people started reaching out
- 7:36Speaker 3: to me like hey, we're interested, and I'm just used
- 7:39Speaker 3: to you know, I wasn't raised in football, so I
- 7:43Speaker 3: didn't know that people, you know, travel to go to
- 7:46Speaker 3: high school. I'm used to going to the local high school.
- 7:50Speaker 3: So when he had to transfer and he wound up,
- 7:52Speaker 3: they came to pick him up like at four thirty
- 7:54Speaker 3: in the morning every day, and he wouldn't get home
- 7:58Speaker 3: to like seven thirty eight at night. And so that's
- 8:00Speaker 3: when it hit me, like these people want your son
- 8:03Speaker 3: that bad where they're figuring out ways to get him
- 8:06Speaker 3: to school hours away, you know. So that's when it
- 8:10Speaker 3: was like, Okay, we're in a different now. We're in
- 8:12Speaker 3: the elite athlete type stuff, you know.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, he is elite, So I mean
- 8:21Speaker 1: that wasn't transition. So obviously the next transition would be
- 8:24Speaker 1: all right, now colleges are going.
- 8:26Speaker 2: To start calling.
- 8:27Speaker 1: When did the recruiting start the process start, Like when
- 8:30Speaker 1: when was that first college like reach out and you're like, oh, okay,
- 8:34Speaker 1: well there's another player here.
- 8:36Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So like his his sophomore year, I want
- 8:40Speaker 3: to say maybe it was the summer of his sophomore year.
- 8:43Speaker 3: I think it was. Nevado was his first offer and
- 8:47Speaker 3: it was his recruitment, believe it or not, was kind
- 8:50Speaker 3: of slow in the beginning. People were telling me like, Okay,
- 8:54Speaker 3: this is going to get crazy, you know, and their
- 8:56Speaker 3: phone's going to ring off the hook, and that didn't
- 8:58Speaker 3: really happen right away. So it was just kind of
- 9:03Speaker 3: like trust the process. I never really got overwhelmed up
- 9:07Speaker 3: until this last the transfer portal thing. The initial recruitment
- 9:13Speaker 3: process was actually not bad. We only really went one visit.
- 9:18Speaker 3: We took one visit to cal and he was sold.
- 9:21Speaker 3: So we really didn't jump around and do We didn't
- 9:24Speaker 3: even take all five official visits initially, and I liked that.
- 9:29Speaker 3: I mean I saw other people going through the visits
- 9:32Speaker 3: and getting tired out, and I was like, oh, no,
- 9:34Speaker 3: he's going to Colt. You know, we're fine, we're good.
- 9:38Speaker 3: We got this.
- 9:39Speaker 2: We're done.
- 9:39Speaker 3: We're good. We're staying. Forty seven minute plane ride and
- 9:42Speaker 3: that's it. So I was fine and none of the
- 9:46Speaker 3: you know, I had coaches telling me, Oh, it's going
- 9:48Speaker 3: to get overwhelming. You're going to have to take his phone.
- 9:50Speaker 3: That really didn't happen until the transfer portal kicked in
- 9:55Speaker 3: and then I got to see. I was like, oh,
- 9:56Speaker 3: this must be what everybody was talking about two years
- 9:59Speaker 3: ago when he was a freshman.
- 10:02Speaker 1: So you go from I mean, you go from that
- 10:08Speaker 1: and then TCU, you know next, so you mentioned, you
- 10:12Speaker 1: know with the huge transfer, uh you know, just two
- 10:16Speaker 1: hours away. How did you handle that? Because Fort Worth
- 10:21Speaker 1: a few more hours away than cal Oh.
- 10:24Speaker 3: Just a few. I was a wreck. I cried, I prayed.
- 10:27Speaker 3: I was like, God, if this is really what's supposed
- 10:29Speaker 3: to happen, just you know, keep him safe. We are
- 10:33Speaker 3: strictly like California people. I mean, I've traveled, but to
- 10:37Speaker 3: actually say, you know, I have a kid that lives
- 10:39Speaker 3: out of state that I couldn't. I couldn't my head
- 10:41Speaker 3: around that. It took. It's taking a while, but now
- 10:46Speaker 3: now you know, Oklahoma's a hopskipping a jump to me.
- 10:49Speaker 3: At first, you know, traveling to Texas every you know,
- 10:52Speaker 3: twice a month was a lot. But now it's kind
- 10:57Speaker 3: of become the norm. We just hop on a plane
- 10:59Speaker 3: and go see Dom, you know. So it's become a
- 11:02Speaker 3: new normal, traveling at least two or three times a month.
- 11:08Speaker 1: So during this past cycle, a lot of people got
- 11:11Speaker 1: to learn, Oh, Dom's got a younger brother too, So
- 11:15Speaker 1: how is how is that? How's that process starting to
- 11:17Speaker 1: work out? And talk about him a little bit.
- 11:20Speaker 3: Joshua was a honestly, was okay with Joshua not playing football.
- 11:25Speaker 3: He started younger than Dom. He started I want to
- 11:29Speaker 3: stay like it, six five or six. He Dom started
- 11:33Speaker 3: a little later, but he didn't like it, and I
- 11:38Speaker 3: was fine with that. I was like, okay, we only
- 11:40Speaker 3: have one athlete in the family. I'm fine with, you know,
- 11:43Speaker 3: less concussions and all of that. I put Joshua on
- 11:48Speaker 3: a team and he sat on the bench, like not
- 11:50Speaker 3: on purpose. He would prefer to sit on the bench.
- 11:52Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, maybe football is not his thing.
- 11:55Speaker 3: So he quit and maybe by the time Joshua was,
- 12:01Speaker 3: I mean, Domb was in tenth grade, he was like, okay,
- 12:06Speaker 3: you know, Dom's getting all this attention. He was always
- 12:11Speaker 3: kind of Dom's little shadow. He really wasn't into a
- 12:15Speaker 3: lot I put him in. He played chess, I did
- 12:20Speaker 3: basketball for a little bit, but we really had a
- 12:22Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know what this kid wants to do.
- 12:24Speaker 3: He used to tell me he wanted to be a
- 12:26Speaker 3: YouTuber when he grew up, So it was like, okay,
- 12:29Speaker 3: we got to let Joshua find his own Niche then
- 12:32Speaker 3: Cal came in the picture and we went on the
- 12:34Speaker 3: official visit for Cal, and they dressed Joshua up in
- 12:37Speaker 3: the uniform and you know, took the pictures and all that. Yeah,
- 12:41Speaker 3: and he got a taste. They put him on the field.
- 12:43Speaker 3: It was just him and Dom at the Cal Berkeley
- 12:47Speaker 3: Stadium and the field was empty, the bleachers were empty,
- 12:50Speaker 3: and they were just throwing a ball. And it was
- 12:53Speaker 3: almost like a light came on in Joshua's head, like
- 12:55Speaker 3: and you could actually see the light bulb, like, hey,
- 12:58Speaker 3: I like this. After that, it was over. Now it's
- 13:02Speaker 3: like Joshua knows more football than Dom. Joshua Dom never yeah,
- 13:07Speaker 3: Dom never studied the sport per se, like he was
- 13:10Speaker 3: just naturally good at it. Joshua goes home and studies it.
- 13:15Speaker 3: He he you know, he's watching like I forgot what
- 13:19Speaker 3: it's called, like the Hardest Hits or something like that,
- 13:21Speaker 3: one of those uh programs.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, something hard knocks something.
- 13:31Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's it's a it's just a bunch
- 13:33Speaker 3: of no, not hard, but it's yeah, it's a bunch
- 13:39Speaker 3: of plays where they it's just linemen just knocking each
- 13:42Speaker 3: other down. So he studies that, he studies, so he's
- 13:47Speaker 3: he's the football person in the house, believe it or not.
- 13:51Speaker 3: And so at first, you know, it took a while
- 13:53Speaker 3: because I was like, Okay, we got dom through this
- 13:55Speaker 3: with limited amount of concussions and limited amount of injuries,
- 13:58Speaker 3: and now I have to do this all over again
- 14:00Speaker 3: and hope you don't get hurt too. So it's definitely
- 14:05Speaker 3: but by now though, I've wrapped my head. Did you
- 14:08Speaker 3: just a football mom, and you're just gonna have to
- 14:10Speaker 3: deal with what comes with it? So that all right?
- 14:16Speaker 1: So we switched over to TCU. TCU had some really
- 14:19Speaker 1: you know, interesting success. Uh you know, go into the
- 14:22Speaker 1: playoffs and you know, being being you know again winning
- 14:27Speaker 1: a game in the playoffs and so describe you know,
- 14:33Speaker 1: just a few years at TCU for Don, Like, what
- 14:37Speaker 1: was his mentality around that, because I mean, like, you know,
- 14:41Speaker 1: you have the standard of success now you have that,
- 14:43Speaker 1: you know, that playoff experience.
- 14:45Speaker 2: How was it last year for him?
- 14:47Speaker 3: You know?
- 14:47Speaker 1: Did he go into the year kind of thinking like,
- 14:49Speaker 1: if I have another good year, maybe it's NFL, maybe
- 14:52Speaker 1: it's transferred.
- 14:52Speaker 2: What what did that look like?
- 14:54Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't think I can't speak for him, but
- 14:58Speaker 3: I will say I willly, I don't think he transfer
- 15:02Speaker 3: was in his initial plan. I told somebody he set
- 15:09Speaker 3: the bar very high for himself. You don't just graduate
- 15:12Speaker 3: at seventeen and then go to the national championships, you know.
- 15:15Speaker 3: So I feel like almost like he thought that that
- 15:19Speaker 3: next season was going to be the same, you know,
- 15:21Speaker 3: because that's just how his first experience was. So he
- 15:26Speaker 3: dealt with a little bit of disappointment. Of course, he
- 15:28Speaker 3: was disappointed in himself. But Dom's a relationship person, so
- 15:35Speaker 3: his loyalty was what made him stay as long as
- 15:38Speaker 3: he did. The conversation came up earlier in the year
- 15:44Speaker 3: and he was about to go ahead and try to
- 15:46Speaker 3: transfer then the first time the portal opened, but his
- 15:50Speaker 3: love for his coaches and his teammates. He really wanted
- 15:54Speaker 3: to stay, so he stuck it out through springball and
- 16:00Speaker 3: I guess I can't say exactly what was the final
- 16:04Speaker 3: decision to make, you know, the final factor to make
- 16:06Speaker 3: him go ahead and transfer, but I know they hired
- 16:08Speaker 3: the new DC and he was just like, you know, mom,
- 16:14Speaker 3: for a business, if this is what I'm going to
- 16:16Speaker 3: do with my life, business decision would be the best
- 16:21Speaker 3: best thing to do is transfer. And you know, I said,
- 16:24Speaker 3: pray on it and see what your you know, see
- 16:26Speaker 3: what your options are. But I'm and I'm glad he
- 16:30Speaker 3: did it. I mean it. There were some tears, there
- 16:33Speaker 3: were sleepless nights, there were you know, rough conversations with coaches,
- 16:38Speaker 3: with friends. But at the end of the day, I
- 16:40Speaker 3: told him, you know, the people who say that they're
- 16:42Speaker 3: in your corner, they're going to be in your corner,
- 16:44Speaker 3: whether you go to junior college, whether you stay at
- 16:47Speaker 3: their college, whether you quit football, altogether, there's still your people.
- 16:52Speaker 3: And if they're not, if they leave you because of
- 16:56Speaker 3: decisions that you make, you know, then you know that
- 16:59Speaker 3: they weren't really for you in anyway. So it's been
- 17:03Speaker 3: a lot of teachable moments in this a lot of
- 17:05Speaker 3: life character building, you know, So that that that the
- 17:10Speaker 3: transfer thing was. It was a shock to me too,
- 17:13Speaker 3: but I was like, first you tell me you're moving
- 17:15Speaker 3: out of California. You did that to me. Then I
- 17:18Speaker 3: finally used to you going to Texas, and you know,
- 17:21Speaker 3: Texas is a second home. At that point, I'm comfortable
- 17:23Speaker 3: with it. I know my way around forward. Now you're
- 17:26Speaker 3: telling me we're going to a state neither one of
- 17:28Speaker 3: us have never been in. So it's definitely kind of
- 17:34Speaker 3: I'm glad, I'm kind of I'm a little kind of
- 17:37Speaker 3: can be mild mannered, so just kind of go with
- 17:40Speaker 3: the flow and and let what's going to happen happen.
- 17:45Speaker 1: So the the familiarity with Oklahoma was there already because
- 17:49Speaker 1: I mean obviously TCU, you know, had a famous game
- 17:51Speaker 1: that National championship year. You know, Dylan Gabriel gets knocked
- 17:55Speaker 1: out of the game and they just i mean absolutely
- 17:57Speaker 1: ran the team.
- 17:58Speaker 2: Just you know, it was it was just a bad
- 18:00Speaker 2: situation for.
- 18:01Speaker 1: Oklahoma that you know, kind of followed them throughout the
- 18:03Speaker 1: rest of the year and then you know, last last
- 18:06Speaker 1: year have the opportunity to play again and so he
- 18:09Speaker 1: gets to see that improvement for you as a parent,
- 18:13Speaker 1: Like you've seen Oklahoma, you know what the you know,
- 18:16Speaker 1: the brand difference between CAL and TCU and then Oklahoma
- 18:19Speaker 1: that I mean, those are those are significant leaps up.
- 18:22Speaker 1: What does that mean to you to to say like,
- 18:25Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Like the coaches are reaching out to
- 18:28Speaker 1: him in the transfer portal from Oklahoma, like and then
- 18:31Speaker 1: the other you know, obviously the other teams were you know,
- 18:33Speaker 1: reputable programs too, So how did you handle that?
- 18:37Speaker 3: I'm still all they said to me was SEC and
- 18:41Speaker 3: all I could think of was these big, homegrown, giant
- 18:45Speaker 3: kids that you know, it's a different type of competition,
- 18:49Speaker 3: and they're like, you know, if this is what he's
- 18:51Speaker 3: going to do with with his life, with the rest
- 18:54Speaker 3: of his life, he has to the competition has to increase.
- 18:58Speaker 3: So I just had to realize, you know, this is
- 19:00Speaker 3: like you know, you put them in first grade, they
- 19:02Speaker 3: graduate and go to second grade, they graduate and go
- 19:04Speaker 3: to third grade. So essentially this is this is really
- 19:06Speaker 3: what's happening. This is him graduating and going on to
- 19:11Speaker 3: where he's supposed to be. So again, even though my
- 19:14Speaker 3: nerves it's definitely keeps me in prayer, but at the
- 19:18Speaker 3: end of the day, he's he's actually following the path
- 19:21Speaker 3: that we let you know, we set out for him
- 19:23Speaker 3: to follow. And so that's really you know, when you
- 19:28Speaker 3: raise your kids, that's the goal. You want them to
- 19:30Speaker 3: follow directions and do what it is you laid out
- 19:33Speaker 3: for them to do. So I cannot be upset with him,
- 19:36Speaker 3: you know, as bad as it as nervous as I
- 19:39Speaker 3: get about it, at the end of the day, it's
- 19:41Speaker 3: still what we prayed for him to be a company,
- 19:44Speaker 3: you know, to accomplish.
- 19:46Speaker 1: To have that opportunity is obviously, I mean, it's it's
- 19:51Speaker 1: not only beautiful as a parent, but then you know,
- 19:54Speaker 1: I think that you had the right mindset with that
- 19:56Speaker 1: because I mean, if he really is going to be
- 19:58Speaker 1: an NFL player, like, let's make that jump to the
- 20:01Speaker 1: SEC because that's going to better prepare you correct.
- 20:04Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And you know Don had as a as
- 20:08Speaker 3: a child, he had a little I think he was
- 20:10Speaker 3: three or four, he had an injury that could have
- 20:13Speaker 3: really taken him completely outing. I mean, never played sports.
- 20:19Speaker 3: So just the fact that he's able to to do
- 20:23Speaker 3: this is a big deal for us. Yeah, and not
- 20:26Speaker 3: a lot, not a lot of people know about that injury.
- 20:28Speaker 3: So when they see me, like, you know, I'm watching
- 20:31Speaker 3: him play football, you don't realize that this boy could
- 20:34Speaker 3: have been paralyzed. So yeah, so yeah, so it's it's
- 20:39Speaker 3: definitely a service. The whole the whole situation is surreal.
- 20:44Speaker 1: So this journey, I mean all in all, like this
- 20:47Speaker 1: is a family journey, but this is definitely Dom's journey.
- 20:51Speaker 1: And you can still have your opinions and stuff, and
- 20:54Speaker 1: your affinity for coach Bennables in the program and the
- 20:57Speaker 1: coaching staff became pretty evident pretty quickly. Go to the
- 21:02Speaker 1: first time, when was the first time that you actually
- 21:04Speaker 1: got to have the conversation with the Oklahoma coaching staff.
- 21:10Speaker 3: So Vinibles, how do I I don't I want to
- 21:14Speaker 3: say this right just the just the first meeting with
- 21:18Speaker 3: him was it felt like I had known him forever
- 21:21Speaker 3: and he wasn't a coach like I don't know much
- 21:25Speaker 3: about you know, the different football coaches and where they
- 21:28Speaker 3: came from and you know what other schools they've been at.
- 21:30Speaker 3: So that didn't impress me. Hearing oh he was at Clemson,
- 21:33Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, what does that mean? Because you know,
- 21:35Speaker 3: I'm not a big football person, believe it or not
- 21:38Speaker 3: but his character just meeting him. I was telling somebody
- 21:42Speaker 3: else like we were here for the spring game, and
- 21:46Speaker 3: he walked around. You know, they put you on the
- 21:48Speaker 3: little golf carts and they tore you around the school
- 21:50Speaker 3: and all that. That was amazing. The school itself was amazing.
- 21:54Speaker 3: TC was a beautiful campus, but Oklahoma was just the
- 21:58Speaker 3: The campus was just beautiful. But it became towards the
- 22:05Speaker 3: end of the day and I guess there's a certain
- 22:08Speaker 3: amount of time that their coaches are allowed to spend,
- 22:11Speaker 3: and so he had a little bit more time that
- 22:12Speaker 3: he could spend with us. He got out of his
- 22:15Speaker 3: car and got into the back of the whatever car
- 22:18Speaker 3: we were, and I think it was like an escalade
- 22:20Speaker 3: or you know, the big suburban, but he got in
- 22:22Speaker 3: the back seat, all the way in the back seat,
- 22:25Speaker 3: like we're all I'm like, the man can sit in
- 22:27Speaker 3: the front. He got all the way in the back
- 22:29Speaker 3: seat and was just a regular human like he was
- 22:32Speaker 3: chopping it up with us like we were old friends.
- 22:35Speaker 3: And I was like, this is the personable you know,
- 22:39Speaker 3: like some of the other coaches the other visits we had,
- 22:41Speaker 3: they were just like CEO minded, like Hi, I'm gonna
- 22:44Speaker 3: come shake your hand. This man showed up at Dom's
- 22:47Speaker 3: house with crumble cookies at seven o'clock in the morning
- 22:50Speaker 3: before he went to practice. I heard the door bell
- 22:53Speaker 3: ring and I'm like, domb, are you expecting anybody? Like
- 22:56Speaker 3: we had only been here for a day, and it's him.
- 22:59Speaker 3: He's loud with crumble cookies and good morning guys, and
- 23:03Speaker 3: walk through the house pet the cat. Like. I'm like,
- 23:06Speaker 3: this man is a real person, and that's that's what
- 23:08Speaker 3: I liked about it. And then my father just recently
- 23:12Speaker 3: passed away and he had something about him reminded me
- 23:15Speaker 3: of my dad, and Dom said the same thing. He
- 23:19Speaker 3: was like, reminds me of Grandpa Hun. I'm like yes,
- 23:21Speaker 3: So for me again, prayed a lot that Dom would
- 23:29Speaker 3: pick Oklahoma again. Like you said, I couldn't make the
- 23:32Speaker 3: decision for him, but it just felt it felt like
- 23:36Speaker 3: home and I was adopted. In one of my little
- 23:40Speaker 3: catchphrases is you don't have to be blood to be family,
- 23:44Speaker 3: and that's what this felt like. It felt like we
- 23:47Speaker 3: just knew them, you know, like they were long lost uncles,
- 23:50Speaker 3: and so it felt right. But the fact that Oklahoma
- 23:56Speaker 3: was our first visit, I knew I'm like, oh god,
- 23:59Speaker 3: these other schools are and I'll roll out the red carpet.
- 24:02Speaker 3: And you know, the first visit gets forgotten about as
- 24:06Speaker 3: you go on these other visits, you know. So I
- 24:08Speaker 3: just kept saying, Dom, don't forget about Oklahoma. And they
- 24:14Speaker 3: were just they they checked on Dom, they checked on Josh.
- 24:19Speaker 3: They called me like it was the presence you could
- 24:23Speaker 3: still feel. I'm like, oh, I'm like okay. You know,
- 24:25Speaker 3: some coaches were like, well, we'll let him take his
- 24:27Speaker 3: other visits. Da da da da, And they left him
- 24:30Speaker 3: completely alone. And to me, that was like, okay, well
- 24:33Speaker 3: they didn't really want him that bad if they didn't
- 24:35Speaker 3: call and you know, just check in. So we were
- 24:40Speaker 3: getting text messages and you know, just real quick check
- 24:44Speaker 3: ins and pictures and it was it was just really nice.
- 24:48Speaker 3: And I know they probably do that for everybody, but
- 24:51Speaker 3: not everybody is as family oriented. You know. Some people
- 24:55Speaker 3: are in the strictly for the coaching. There was another
- 25:00Speaker 3: school that the coaching you couldn't go wrong with either school,
- 25:05Speaker 3: but oh you had more like, like I said, the
- 25:07Speaker 3: family aspect, and so I was like, okay, even if
- 25:12Speaker 3: he picks that other school coaching wise, business wise, it
- 25:14Speaker 3: probably you know, it'll do him just as well as
- 25:18Speaker 3: oh you would, But you don't have soul mission. You
- 25:21Speaker 3: don't have the life after football program like all that
- 25:23Speaker 3: is very important to me.
- 25:25Speaker 1: So so you bring up soul mission and some people,
- 25:29Speaker 1: you know, when I've done these interviews, sole mission obviously
- 25:31Speaker 1: is a is a big piece of what everybody says.
- 25:35Speaker 1: And it's not a tactic and it's not a tool.
- 25:38Speaker 1: That's like literally just a way of life. And that's
- 25:40Speaker 1: how this coach of these coaches, coaching staff just in
- 25:43Speaker 1: general operates. What were your first thoughts about the sole
- 25:46Speaker 1: mission and hearing about that.
- 25:47Speaker 3: Oh, I loved it like that to me and I
- 25:49Speaker 3: tell everybody for me and my plan for dom the
- 25:53Speaker 3: NFL has always been planned b And he knows that
- 25:58Speaker 3: you know the degree and your carearacter because at the
- 26:00Speaker 3: end of the day, if you get hurt, you know,
- 26:03Speaker 3: you may may not ever be able to play football again.
- 26:06Speaker 3: But who are you as a person. So the fact
- 26:09Speaker 3: that sole mission, you know, teaches them how to be
- 26:11Speaker 3: men and teaches them how to give back, that to
- 26:16Speaker 3: me was everything. Like some of the quite as it's
- 26:20Speaker 3: kept well not quiet, but you know, I one of
- 26:24Speaker 3: my fears is, you know, these schools use the kids
- 26:27Speaker 3: and they play football for four years or whatever, but
- 26:30Speaker 3: then what do they do after that? You know, are
- 26:33Speaker 3: you helping them jobs? Are you making sure their mental
- 26:36Speaker 3: health is okay where they can be you know? Yeah,
- 26:41Speaker 3: So sole Mission just had all of that to me
- 26:44Speaker 3: and that that was very important in fact, speaking to that,
- 26:49Speaker 3: and this zoo the other day was telling me. I
- 26:52Speaker 3: was like, please remind them to get his passport. She said, oh,
- 26:55Speaker 3: I'll put that on the list. But they literally walk
- 26:58Speaker 3: through the parking lot to find the kids that have
- 27:01Speaker 3: close to expiring tags to make sure that they get
- 27:04Speaker 3: stuff like that, Like, we're another college isn't going to
- 27:07Speaker 3: do that. They could care less, you know what I mean.
- 27:09Speaker 3: But yeah, little little things like that that those were
- 27:13Speaker 3: the deal breakers for me.
- 27:15Speaker 1: So after the spring game and Jay and I we
- 27:19Speaker 1: we saw you guys down on the field, and you know,
- 27:21Speaker 1: Jay's the guy that I do the podcast with and
- 27:24Speaker 1: he's he's him and I we we both love the school,
- 27:29Speaker 1: not just I mean we started doing our podcast because
- 27:32Speaker 1: I think that our affinity for for Brent Vennables and
- 27:37Speaker 1: just who he is as a person. But we saw
- 27:39Speaker 1: you down there you guys look like you were having
- 27:41Speaker 1: a blast. You just smile ear to ear and again
- 27:45Speaker 1: you said it was practically it was number one. But
- 27:48Speaker 1: as you were leaving, you know, those those rumors started
- 27:51Speaker 1: circulating to where it's like, man, we saw uh, you know,
- 27:53Speaker 1: the Williams family, and they looked excited. But now they're off,
- 27:57Speaker 1: and so you guys stop around campus a little bit longer,
- 28:00Speaker 1: and then the other campuses started. So I'm gonna ask
- 28:03Speaker 1: you this, and you can say, Eric, I want nothing to.
- 28:06Speaker 2: Do with this one.
- 28:06Speaker 1: But there's a famous video of you guys at a
- 28:09Speaker 1: restaurant and there is you know, sparkle sparklers on the cake, and.
- 28:15Speaker 2: You know, from an Oklahoma fan, we're like, oh, oh.
- 28:17Speaker 1: That's that's cringey, you know, but that like, as a parent,
- 28:19Speaker 1: you're sitting there watching another school celebrate your son and
- 28:22Speaker 1: just roll out absolutely everything for him.
- 28:25Speaker 3: It was how.
- 28:27Speaker 2: Do those conversations go?
- 28:28Speaker 1: It was like, all right, now, let's keep keep the
- 28:30Speaker 1: core things you know in your minds like that the
- 28:32Speaker 1: sparkler cake is awesome, But how did that look like
- 28:35Speaker 1: you know, just kind of trying to keep him, you know,
- 28:38Speaker 1: you know.
- 28:39Speaker 2: Keeping the main thing, the main thing, you know.
- 28:41Speaker 3: What I can ease. I can honestly say that that
- 28:48Speaker 3: doesn't like Dom doesn't get excited. So there's times where
- 28:51Speaker 3: I'm like, you have to show that you're you know,
- 28:53Speaker 3: give some some emotion. I wasn't really worried about other
- 28:58Speaker 3: schools being able to woo him with stuff like that, like, yeah,
- 29:01Speaker 3: it was fun, Yeah it was exciting. We took some
- 29:04Speaker 3: great pictures, we got you know, cool memories. But that
- 29:09Speaker 3: kind of stuff really doesn't excite him. He actually prefers
- 29:14Speaker 3: to be less of attention. He likes less attention. Like yeah,
- 29:20Speaker 3: so one thing I will say, like one of the
- 29:22Speaker 3: schools showed him this housing and you know where another
- 29:26Speaker 3: kid would be like, oh my god, this is amazing.
- 29:28Speaker 3: You know, I want to live here. He looked at
- 29:30Speaker 3: me and he was like, mom, this is more for
- 29:32Speaker 3: somebody who wants to be the center of attention. So
- 29:36Speaker 3: that's just his you know, so honestly that, like you said,
- 29:39Speaker 3: the cringey picture, Like I was really thinking in my head,
- 29:42Speaker 3: my baby really wants to bury his head under the
- 29:44Speaker 3: table right now with all those sparklers. Like he was
- 29:48Speaker 3: so embarrassed. I mean, like I said, fun, but it
- 29:52Speaker 3: wasn't that wasn't going to make or break. That wasn't
- 29:54Speaker 3: going to make the decision.
- 29:56Speaker 2: So so and go ahead.
- 29:59Speaker 3: Go ahead. No one thing. I did remind him, even
- 30:02Speaker 3: though I knew it really wasn't a big deal to him.
- 30:05Speaker 3: I told him, you know, at the end of the day,
- 30:07Speaker 3: this is what they do for a living. Like they're
- 30:09Speaker 3: going to do the same thing for another student that
- 30:12Speaker 3: comes along, and you know they feel like can open up,
- 30:15Speaker 3: you know, can do things for their for their program.
- 30:19Speaker 3: So you know, you have sparklers tonight, but tomorrow three
- 30:22Speaker 3: other kids are going to have sparklers. So you can't
- 30:24Speaker 3: let that, you know, be a factor.
- 30:28Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you said. You know, Brent jumps in the.
- 30:31Speaker 1: Back of the back of the car and.
- 30:33Speaker 2: You know he's up in the morning bringing trumble cookies.
- 30:38Speaker 1: He made a comment the other day in an interview
- 30:40Speaker 1: where he says, like, you know, my mom says, if
- 30:43Speaker 1: you're not going.
- 30:43Speaker 2: To go to Oklahoma, I'm still going to go to Oklahoma.
- 30:47Speaker 1: You know that that made a lot of Sooner fans
- 30:50Speaker 1: like extremely extremely happy, just because you know, we hear
- 30:53Speaker 1: these things. We hear the recruiting battles, and you don't
- 30:56Speaker 1: win every single one of them, and you know it's
- 30:59Speaker 1: it's relationship and ships matter. But then you know SODA's
- 31:01Speaker 1: nil matters, and then so does development. So this year,
- 31:06Speaker 1: you know, you had this opportunity to, you know, do
- 31:09Speaker 1: something completely different. When when when you guys sat down
- 31:14Speaker 1: and made the decision of choosing Oklahoma and going through
- 31:17Speaker 1: all that stuff. How happy were you when he when
- 31:21Speaker 1: he when he said sooners.
- 31:23Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so relieved. Happy isn't even the word. I
- 31:25Speaker 3: was like, oh, okay, we got that battle of taking
- 31:29Speaker 3: care of it. I knew so, like I said, the
- 31:34Speaker 3: other schools were great, they just didn't have the full package.
- 31:39Speaker 3: There were some schools that, Okay, he has great coaching,
- 31:42Speaker 3: but you know he they're just going to look at
- 31:44Speaker 3: him at like a number. There were other schools that
- 31:47Speaker 3: had close to the full package, but they just didn't
- 31:50Speaker 3: have venables, you know. So it just I was relieved
- 31:54Speaker 3: and I was like, Okay, now let's just get out there,
- 31:56Speaker 3: let's drive around, let's get comfortable and familiar and move forward.
- 32:02Speaker 3: And here we sit.
- 32:05Speaker 1: So I'm absolutely I feel terrible coach Baits. I apologize
- 32:09Speaker 1: if you watching this. That's another man that that I
- 32:14Speaker 1: mean when I see him post something. I don't do
- 32:17Speaker 1: a lot of notifications on my Twitter, but coach Bates
- 32:20Speaker 1: is one because I feel like it makes my day
- 32:22Speaker 1: better when he says something, because I you know, there's
- 32:24Speaker 1: heart there and stuff like give me your your your
- 32:27Speaker 1: thoughts on coach baits.
- 32:30Speaker 3: So at first, like I was just kind of like, okay,
- 32:33Speaker 3: he's he's there's something, you know, he's a coach. But
- 32:36Speaker 3: he was just so nice that I'm like, how are
- 32:39Speaker 3: you a good coach if you're not cussing at kids
- 32:41Speaker 3: and yelling you know what I mean? He was just
- 32:42Speaker 3: so nice and that that kind of was like, oh,
- 32:47Speaker 3: you know, I know Dom needs somebody that's gonna yell
- 32:49Speaker 3: at him, you know, because he likes that. But also
- 32:55Speaker 3: not having a father figure, he does need somebody who's
- 32:59Speaker 3: going to coach, but coach where Dom listens. So you know,
- 33:06Speaker 3: if you scream at somebody, they're just eventually they're going
- 33:09Speaker 3: to shut off. So Bates kind of had the perfect balance.
- 33:12Speaker 3: I have heard him scream, you know, but he'll circle
- 33:16Speaker 3: back and hey, do you understand why I said this
- 33:18Speaker 3: or do you understand why you know I may have
- 33:21Speaker 3: been a little bit hard, He's not just coaching him
- 33:26Speaker 3: just to make him do what he says do because
- 33:29Speaker 3: I say do it, He'll circle back and make sure
- 33:31Speaker 3: you understood why I'm telling you to do this. And
- 33:35Speaker 3: that's important because I know Dom was a little could
- 33:39Speaker 3: have been, for lack of better words, intimidated by the
- 33:41Speaker 3: you know, learning new plays and all that, and so
- 33:43Speaker 3: that that's really what concerned me about Oklahoma. I was like,
- 33:47Speaker 3: oh God, he's not going to pick Oklahoma just because
- 33:49Speaker 3: of the playbook. And so I told him, you have
- 33:52Speaker 3: to trust that whatever coach you pick is somebody that's
- 33:56Speaker 3: going to coach you and you're going to understand it.
- 33:57Speaker 3: Don't don't be intimidated by the playbook. Just you know,
- 34:00Speaker 3: pick the coach that's going to teach you the playbooks. Yeah,
- 34:06Speaker 3: bas had the balance, and that's that's what Dom needs
- 34:10Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, like you said,
- 34:11Speaker 3: he's a big teddy bear, you know, he's he's not
- 34:15Speaker 3: the vicious person you see on the field, So he
- 34:17Speaker 3: does need somebody that knows how to communicate that's not
- 34:20Speaker 3: yelling and screaming all the time.
- 34:25Speaker 1: Well, I you know, we talked a lot about the
- 34:29Speaker 1: relationship and you're admitted, you said, but I'm not a
- 34:32Speaker 1: big football I think that you're more of a football
- 34:34Speaker 1: person than than you realize you are.
- 34:36Speaker 3: I think so. But as far as like like I
- 34:39Speaker 3: still look at my kids and I'm like, what just happened?
- 34:41Speaker 3: Did Dom do that? And they're like, Mom, how did
- 34:43Speaker 3: you miss that? And I'm like, because I don't know,
- 34:44Speaker 3: I really don't know why.
- 34:48Speaker 1: So I like to do the predictions. At this point,
- 34:53Speaker 1: you know, we're at the end of the interview. We've
- 34:55Speaker 1: heard these things. You hear some of the national stuff
- 34:58Speaker 1: about Oklahoma, and it seems like a lot of people
- 35:01Speaker 1: just they don't realize that. I mean, we just ran
- 35:04Speaker 1: the Big twelve for twenty years and now we're going
- 35:08Speaker 1: into the SEC, bigger batter. But you've got guys like Dom,
- 35:12Speaker 1: You've got guys like DJ Terry, and you know what
- 35:14Speaker 1: you've seen practices. What do you what do you think
- 35:17Speaker 1: the Sooner team looks like this year?
- 35:20Speaker 3: Honestly they it looks like it could be a really
- 35:23Speaker 3: good run. Like I'm I'm I'm excited, and I think
- 35:27Speaker 3: they're going to surprise a lot of people. And one
- 35:30Speaker 3: thing and Dom Dom he flourishes in the underdog. So
- 35:34Speaker 3: in that underdog position, so he likes the fact that
- 35:38Speaker 3: people are, oh, he's not going to do this, and
- 35:40Speaker 3: you know, you guys aren't going to be able to
- 35:41Speaker 3: do that. He's Dom's one of those people if you
- 35:44Speaker 3: tell him you can't do it, he's going to do
- 35:46Speaker 3: it just because you said you can't. So I'm excited.
- 35:50Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna press through. So let's let's let's
- 35:54Speaker 1: go with this. This last question here is you've got
- 35:59Speaker 1: you got a year set up. Dom has personal goals.
- 36:04Speaker 1: What we're playing teams that like, you know, you watch
- 36:08Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my gosh, you know, I wish
- 36:09Speaker 1: we could play them more often. Which games have you
- 36:12Speaker 1: more excited? What is there a game specifically that you're
- 36:15Speaker 1: really really excited about this year?
- 36:17Speaker 3: Uh, Tennessee. I'm really excited about the Tennessee game just
- 36:21Speaker 3: because you know, Nico and Dom are are California kids
- 36:25Speaker 3: and we have relationship with you know, with families and stuff.
- 36:28Speaker 3: So it's it's that's gonna be a fun game. It's
- 36:30Speaker 3: gonna be exciting. We have some people coming with us
- 36:34Speaker 3: that'll probably have on OU shirt and the Tennessee hat,
- 36:37Speaker 3: so it's just gonna be it's gonna be fun. There
- 36:39Speaker 3: we go, Yeah, looking for me to go.
- 36:42Speaker 1: Yeah, are you planning on making all the games or
- 36:46Speaker 1: do you just have some selected ones picked out?
- 36:49Speaker 3: In a perfect world, I would be at all the games.
- 36:52Speaker 3: I probably will sit Missouri out just because been there.
- 36:58Speaker 3: I'm going to try to do most of the you know,
- 37:01Speaker 3: the OEU games. Of course I do want to go
- 37:04Speaker 3: to will for sure be in Tennessee. But at the
- 37:08Speaker 3: end of the day, I have to I still have
- 37:09Speaker 3: to be an adult and go to.
- 37:10Speaker 2: Work, don't we all.
- 37:14Speaker 3: Yeah, So at the end of the day, I'll be
- 37:17Speaker 3: at the ones I can make. I can't even put
- 37:19Speaker 3: a finger on how many, but if I put in
- 37:21Speaker 3: a perfect world, I'd be at all of them.
- 37:24Speaker 2: Well, Miss Sissily, I appreciate you so much.
- 37:27Speaker 1: For hopping on. I know that we've we've been kind
- 37:30Speaker 1: of managing, you know, our big boy big girl schedules together.
- 37:33Speaker 1: It's still a little while for us to get connected,
- 37:35Speaker 1: but you know, I look forward to seeing you at
- 37:38Speaker 1: a couple of the games. And you know, definitely if
- 37:41Speaker 1: you're not making them, you can only shoot me at
- 37:43Speaker 1: text and ask me also.
- 37:45Speaker 2: Hey did was that good?
- 37:46Speaker 3: You know?
- 37:47Speaker 1: And and I promise you I I like to watch
- 37:49Speaker 1: the games pretty quiet, and so my family just leaves me,
- 37:52Speaker 1: and because our daddy's talking to the TV and they
- 37:55Speaker 1: can't hear him, so I go pretty crazy. But thank
- 37:58Speaker 1: you so much for hopping on today. I know that
- 38:00Speaker 1: your life has been insane and it's a talk. Season
- 38:04Speaker 1: is almost over and we got football just where we
- 38:07Speaker 1: got twenty two days away.
- 38:08Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so excited.
- 38:11Speaker 1: Well, thank you, and so everybody if you are, if
- 38:13Speaker 1: you're checking this out, and you know, this has been
- 38:15Speaker 1: a great series inside the Sooner family getting the opportunity
- 38:19Speaker 1: just to just to share some more of the heart
- 38:21Speaker 1: about everything, So hop down in the comments, let you know,
- 38:24Speaker 1: let him Cicily know what she you know, what you
- 38:26Speaker 1: thought about the interview and how excited you are to
- 38:29Speaker 1: see dom also like subscribe and you know, share it
- 38:32Speaker 1: because I think this is one that a lot of
- 38:33Speaker 1: parents want to see, is you know the reality of
- 38:37Speaker 1: what this is so cisly thank you so much, and
- 38:40Speaker 1: again I appreciated you and Boomer Sooner as always, thank you.
- 38:45Speaker 3: It goes Sooner