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Ex-Illuminati Member Exposes the Occult Rituals Behind the Entertainment Industry w/ Leo Zagami · Man in America Podcast

• 0:00
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So I'm sure that you're seeing all over the place that Hollywood, the music industry is being exposed. We're having the stuff with P Diddy and their ties to his Epstein esque operations. We're having a lot of symbolism being shown, and there's even a recent video that we're gonna look at today, a viral more viral video online of I think it was Paul McCartney showing his, you know, what what looked to be illuminating hand signs in a very, very obvious way.
• 0:30
  So the question that I have with a lot of this is, what's really behind this? What's really behind this? And there's a lot of people that wanna simplify it into, hey. It's it's this group a or group b that control everything, but it's much more complex. And so joining me is Leo Zagami, someone that is a, you know, self proclaimed ex Illuminati who's now become a whistleblower, which is very interesting.
• 0:52
  And as he reveals in the discussion today, he actually was friends at one point with, I think, Anton LaVey or not whether it's Anton LaVey or, I think, Aquino Michael Aquino, the, you know, the tip founder of temple of Seth. So he he has these ends, and his research is so complex. It's worth listening to, but he also we do touch on the whole issue of of of, you know, Zionism and the threat of it and whatnot. And he provides, I think, some important perspective to it, which is I mean, what I what I took away from it, I'll let you watch obviously and take away what you wanna take away from it is we can't simplify it. We can't simplify the complexities, especially of the evil in this world into these very simple groups.
• 1:33
  It's layers upon layers, and there's secret societies hidden within secret societies that are controlling portions of religions and whatnot. So it's very complicated. So you may not agree with everything that Leo says, but I hope that it at least makes you scratch your head and say, yeah. You know, that's worth considering. Let me research that some more.
• 1:49
  So, folks, please enjoy the interview with Leo Zagami. Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that?
• 2:05
  Is it just a thing of, hey. Buy this gold. Buy this silver. Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at?
• 2:11
  So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 02/2023, the average family home is just over $400,000. So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive?
• 2:30
  No. It's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now let's take a look at gold.
• 2:41
  So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000?
• 3:08
  Can you buy a family home? No. You can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals.
• 3:28
  It's not about getting rich. It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now. We're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver. Because what it's doing is it's protecting you.
• 3:57
  This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the nineteen thirties. We're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome. It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value.
• 4:12
  So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than doctor Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine. He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies. So to learn more about this, go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (720) 605-3900.
• 4:48
  Both those places will allow you to set up a quick appointment where you can talk to a wealth adviser that will help get you started on this path. Again, goldwithseth.com, 7 2 0 6 0 5 3 9 0 zero. Leo, it is always interesting and quite an honor to have you on the show. So thank you so much for being here with us today.
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on. It's always a pleasure. And I guess we will be discussing some interesting things today regarding one of my books. So I'm available to just dig deep.
• 5:19
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. And then first off, let me say congratulations because you are now one of us, that American flag on your lapel. You're now, if I understand correctly, an American citizen, right?
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, since the March 12. So I'm very honored to be part of the American family and finally be free from those European technocrats, have tried to ruin my life. So I'm really eager to live the American dream. I know that it is under attack, I would like to remind all our American friends that they are ever so lucky to have the most beautiful constitution in the world. And it's nothing really compared to what we have in Europe here.
• 6:02
  It's something incredible. So for me, it's an honor. Of course, like I said, we are in a moment in which these amendments are under attack. So we have to do everything to protect them. But still, compared to what I was living in Europe, here is freedom.
• 6:20
  So it's really a great sensation. And that's why I'm also formally detaching from my Italian citizenship and European in every way, shape, or form because it's important to not maintain good citizenships. I think you are swearing an oath of allegiance, and you have to really conduct yourself correctly in defense of the country you have now embraced.
• 6:47
  Seth Holehouse: Very yeah. I couldn't agree more. So you're talking about the American dream. And what is the American dream in the American culture without Hollywood? And there's a lot to to talk to.
• 6:58
  And I think that for a lot of folks that are watching, they grew up not just with Hollywood, but the music industry, you know, shaping our lives, whether it was, you know, like, you know, talking to my parents, they remember when the first Star Wars came out and the lines be you know, to the movie theater. They remember when the particular Beatle Beatles album came out or when the Led Zeppelin album came out the summer of seventy three or whatever it is, and this is ingrained in our culture. But I think that a lot of us are now realizing that these entities, these these massive corporations, this structure of Hollywood, the entertainment industry, has also been used against us. It's been used to push very evil satanic messaging into us and has been used to control us in in some very, very dark and bad ways. And I know that's something that you know a lot about.
• 7:43
  And so I wanna start our discussion by pulling up there's a couple videos I have for folks today. One is this video of Paul McCartney. Right? Think everyone I'd say every single person watching, listening to the show knows who Paul McCartney is. Such an influential figure.
• 7:57
  And there's obviously the history of the Beatles that relates to the Tavistock Institute and and all of that stuff, but there's also much deeper, which what this video is showing is it's a video of Paul McCartney sitting down, and what the person who showed the video says, this is going viral on Twitter, it's him showing his allegiance to the Illuminati. And given that you were once part of the Illuminati, now you're really a whistleblower. I wanna get your take on this. I'll play the video quickly. It's a short video, then we can talk about it.
• 8:26
  So this is it right here. So what an odd thing to do when sitting down. Like, that's not a normal just straightening your jacket. It's very clear, and I apologize for the people listening to the audio. He sits down, and he makes the triangle.
• 8:46
  He makes that that specific triangle that we see Jay Z do and whatnot. So when you see that, what is he doing? What is Paul McCartney doing? What's he communicating? Why is he doing that?
• 8:57
  Is it accidental? Is it intentional? What do you make of that?
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: Well, we have singers who are more outspoken about their membership. For example, with Freemason, we have Phil Collins, who has been a Freemason for a long time. Paul McCartney has been a student of the occult since the middle of the 60s. In the second half of the 60s with John Lennon, they really went into a study and a discovery, a self discovery, which was also a study of the occult. I described this in Volume eight of my Confessions, how they first encountered the first occult books in a bookshop, a specific bookshop in London, how they started this path of, at times, self initiation, but also of self realization and of wanting to join all those people who in that period were pushed towards the East.
• 9:56
  You know, that at one point they ended up, as we all know, with a guru in India, and that was also part of this whole thing. The beetles are, of course, the product of their age, but also the product of a record label, EMI. EMI itself was a product of the Second World War because it is basically a record label, But during the war, it was also much more. I mean, these record labels, also RCA, they develop from the military industrial complex into our lives. And for that reason, Paul McCartney became at the pinnacle of his glory.
• 10:43
  Of course, he made money and all that, but he was also trying to launch a message, a very specific message with John Lennon. And that message, of course, was anti Christian. As you remember, we are more popular than Jesus Christ. It was the kind of a catchphrase of that era, that beat us more popular than Jesus Christ. They were embracing that tendency that had been already for the last hundred years pushed upon the West more and more by the Theosophical Society.
• 11:16
  For those people who don't know, the Theosophical Society is an organization that was founded in America in 1875, but with tentacles all over the British Empire by Madame Blavasky herself, born in Ukraine and connected also to the Russian Imperial Secret Service, the Ostrana. So we have, of course, musicians, artists that we view as artists in a naive way. Like you said at the beginning of the show. We tend to say, well, this is part of Americana. Hollywood is part of Americana.
• 11:53
  The music business that is built around Hollywood is part of Americana. But it's at the same point is part of Americana. Also the fact that these institutions, all of them within the entertainment world, rather than the cinema rather than music musical and cinema, they are all built also for propaganda reasons. So that's why at the beginning, they didn't even want the Beatles to play in certain countries or there was, you know, they were complaining about it, for example, in certain countries about the way that they were pushing themselves like almost sex idols. Well, actually sex idols.
• 12:38
  But the whole thing was also dramatically recreated, artificially recreated. These women that we remember when the Beatles arrived in America, they were like tearing their hair apart and they were. It was all set up. It was all organized. They were all paid.
• 12:57
  They were all made to do that. And in order to then launch this frenzy across society, which of course in America saw already the protagonist with Elvis Presley. So there was already an attempt that had been made since the 50s to break the values of traditional society. You see, when we talk about propaganda, after the Second World War, there was that peace and calm that generated the typical first stage of the American dream, which I still many people like to remember. Nowadays, unfortunately, at times the American dream because of a fentanyl homelessness and all that becomes an American nightmare when we go into the American suburbs.
• 13:49
  But back then, the actual way of living was portraying perfection and also traditional values until of course these traditional values were mined, were sabotaged and LSD creeping the Hollywood machine, more and more drugs then. With record labels, more drugs meant also more control over the artist, them dependent on these drugs. And at times, these drugs open portals with the unknown. They open you to a different way of thinking and they open you almost inevitably to the occult. So that's really what happened I think from the second half of the 60s onwards also in the music business.
• 14:47
  Then you have of course the cinema, Cary Grant, for example, experimenting with LSD became an almost fashionable thing that had to be done by everybody. But like I said, talking portals, it generated a different kind of society. And all this was planned behind the scenes by the Tavistock Institute that you mentioned earlier, which of course
• 15:14
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• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Like I write in my book in volume made of my confessions, it takes its initial experiment to the British empire at that time, the commonwealth, whatever they they were controlling, but then Adolf Haxley was brought here into the American setup. And here it was eventually used for MKUltra. It was used for those programs of mind control and manipulation for the geoengineering of the masses. And so music, it's something that we all love and we all enjoy, but it is primary tool of propaganda. I mean, I think an example on all the others can be Richard Wagner for Adolf Hitler.
• 17:13
  He himself enjoyed since the first stages of Nazis, a very special friendship with the Wagner family himself understood that there was also an esoteric element to those plays that Richard Wagner had put together. So they formed the Enviroth in Germany, a sort of milieu of illuminati who were trying to revamp also what Adam Bishop had initially started there. So this is basically what's happening here. We have also the Frankfurt School, which of course was kicked out of Germany at one point because they realized the dangers of this Frankfurt School, but they ended up being unfortunately imported
• 18:09
  Seth Holehouse: here
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: in The United States. And here in The United States, of course, they gradually became the seeds of what would become eventually the woke movement of today. So I think that Paul McCartney doesn't leave anything to chance. He is, of course, being debilitated at the time by the queen in a very, I think, public performance. Everybody knew that they were made, that they had been debilitated by the queen.
• 18:40
  And that was really also another finger that I explained in volume eight of my confession. That the British royal family in all this has a very important function and role. They are responsible not only as the people control Great Britain and of course they formally control the British Empire then became the Commonwealth. But they are also in charge of British Freemasonry. Traditionally, the United Grangelodge of England is connected to the British royal family.
• 19:19
  The grandmaster itself is well, of course, the cousin of the queen that just deceased and related to King Charles. Freemasonry is a word that is regularity between brackets. Only if you are in amity with the United Grangeology of England. So for example, around the world, if you have other forms of emissary, either they are connected to the Grand Orient Of France, which at one point broke up from the English network, creating their own even more atheistic vision of Freemasonry, while instead England retained the more theistic. And this was also what happened at the end of the nineteenth century.
• 20:07
  Freemasonry kind of broke into two factions because of the infiltration that there was, especially in the French branch of Freemasonry present the Sabbatian Frankist movement, which is a movement I discuss very much about also in Volume eight of My Professions regarding Hollywood because Hollywood is always accused of being the mouthpiece of some hidden Zionist lobby. While instead, if we have a more intellectual approach to this question, we understand that it is the Sabbatian Franks that have nothing to do with the Zionists. The Zionist itself is a concept that we could discuss for a whole show, so I don't want to annoy you with that. But Theodor Elser initially founded the created, sorry, the state of Israel idea out of necessity because they were persecuted. So while instead, as soon after he founded this world, the Zionist Congress, he was infiltrated by the Sabbathian Franks, people who believe in the ideas of people like Moses S, who was a communist thinker, who actually taught to Karl Marx the very ideas that are at the basis of that monstrosity we call communist.
• 21:25
  So Sabbatian Frankist is not just some kind of heresy. Of course, in my books, I explain in detail, including the last one, volume nine, but I started already with volume four explaining the connections between Freemasonry, the Sabbatian Francist who were very important in generating some of the most influential ideas because they were in charge of some of the most influential lodges of Freemasonry, of the Illuminati. They created at the end of the eighteenth century an order called the Asian Brethren that will end up influencing the birth of the Bohemian club. So this is very important for the people to realize at the moment because otherwise it's a very simplistic way of saying like Kanye West and blaming it all on the Jews. It's too simplistic.
• 22:20
  You should never blame everything on an ethnicity, on a race of some kind because it's a very ignorant way of doing things. One instead, we have, for example, good Catholics who are Catholics who didn't believe in some of the changes that were implemented by the Second Vatican Council. So if you generalize and say the Catholics are all bad or the Catholics are all evil, that's wrong too. So in every situation you have to pinpoint where the heiress is coming from. And in the Jewish world, Sabbat Ezevi, who was a self proclaimed Messiah, who received at one point the attention of almost half of the Jewish population that used to be alive back then.
• 23:09
  And then at one point shocked the world by converting publicly to Islam by starting though a new current of crypto Judaism first within Islam, which then became the domain and Ataturk was part of them. And then we have Jacob Frank who thought he was the reincarnation of Sabbatai Zevi, a century later, who himself instead converted the utterly to Catholicism and brought a bunch of Jews to convert to Catholicism. But in reality, they were all practicing the Sabbatian heresy. And the Sabbatian heresy became the basis of the structure of many secret societies because was Max Theon, the guy who basically was the mentor of Madame Blavasque, was a Sabbatian. We have many other Sabbatian Frankists involved within the realm of secret society.
• 24:09
  Adolf Kremieux, who was himself at one point an important politician, but he was also a very important lawyer into the Damascus affair, which is a very important moment in which we start an unjust persecution of the Jews because of unjust accusations back. And here we are talking about the middle of the nineteenth century. But Adolf Premio was himself a lawyer who was employed by the Montefiore Rothschild Mafia in London. But at the same time, it was Adolf Premio who gave the birth with other people to that alliance Universelle, Israeli Universelle, Universelle, which was basically this universal alliance of Jews, which was in a way the first organization to bring together the idea of literally going back to Israel. But at the same time, they had probably more sinister plans than Theodore Herzl himself.
• 25:13
  And so paradoxically, Zionist actually comes to save us from this initial Jewish plot that was not a Jewish plot, but was a Sabbatian Frankish plot because Adolf Richemieu became the supreme commander of French Freemasonry of the ancient and accepted Scottish Rite. And when he did the Lausanne meeting of all the Supreme Councils of the Scottish Rite, in that meeting, actually even Albert Pike was outraged about the results of that meeting. He said these people are abandoning Christ, anything, they will have a follows as a as a symbol in their largest zoo. And and that was where Alistair Crowley comes into the mix because you see Alistair Crowley is often seen as the father of sex magic and all these perversions. But actually he was just simply taking on board the the perversions that were already practiced and outlined by Shabbat Azevi.
• 26:12
  Those sexual magical orgies, all those distorted practices that basically distorted the Kabbalah in favor of a distorted version of the Kabbalah are all due to the Sabbateans. So Alastair Crowley simply was reiterating what was already done in the Jewish world. And when he himself came to Hollywood, like I explained in volume eight of my confessions, he saw, wow, what a bunch of degenerate cocaine. These people are outrageous. I mean, we're talking about Alistair Clorlie here, the guy who basically just a few years after he said this opened an app in Sicily where he had on the wall drink out of my satanic brain, cognac and do cocaine as a motto on the walls of his hub.
• 27:07
  I mean, he was a great pervert and he actually enjoyed this sinister early Hollywood environment. And so let's say he was not really reprimanding them when he was saying, oh, what a bunch of he was actually complimenting them saying, wow. But to actually have impressed somebody like Alistair Crowley on his first visit to Hollywood, it means that Hollywood was pretty degenerate kind of place. We know a lot of these early stages of Hollywood from Kenneth Anger. Kenneth Anger passed away not so long ago.
• 27:52
  During my time in the Illuminati, I was in direct correspondence with him. I had the possibility of actually having a sort of friendship for a while while I was involved with the Illuminati. So I can say that the guy was very knowledgeable about things. But at the same time, of course, he was a full on Luciferian and Satanist that had participated also in the foundations of the Church of Satan with Anton LaVey, who had been around Roman Polanski, who had influenced Hollywood's most darkest films. I think that you will not have probably David Lynch without Kennethanger.
• 28:34
  So just to give you an explanation of what kind. So Kennethanger was an honorary ninth degree of the OTO. He had been a disciple of various people that had been close to Crowley. He himself didn't have the possibility because he was probably, I don't think even too young because he was very active from a very young age. And in the 50s, was the first one to go back to that habe of Telema in Cefalu in Sicily to film it and the remains of it.
• 29:15
  Kenneth Anger was, of course, also the magician who inspired their only stones, who inspired the second part of the sixties where the Beatles then placed on their album cover for Sergeant Pepper, Lonely Heard, Aleister Crowley. So going back to your first question about the Beatles and Paul McCartney, it's quite funny the way that the media portrayed this animosity between the bad boys and the good boys. You have the good boys who were supposed to be the Beatles, but then you have the cover of Surgeon Pepper and you go and check it out. And then we have Alistair Cooley on top of the various faces with these weird smears. And then we have, of course, on the other side, the Rolling Stones that were portrayed instead as the real evil people.
• 30:08
  And they apparently were influenced by Kenneth Tanger when they did the sympathy for the devil track. Crowley, you can go up on the left, you can see him very up there. The second one on the left upper there, do a close-up of Alastair Crowley and his bald head. Of course, that is a thought of Crowley in his later years rather than his younger self. But he is definitely present amongst the influential people of all times that the Beatles are portraying in this album cover.
• 30:54
  Besides the image of the good versus bad that the media wanted to portray of the Ronisons and the Beatles. They were all part of the same plot.
• 31:02
  Seth Holehouse: I see. And so when when McCartney sits down like that, right, as as we talked about, I'll I'll just kinda show that one more time. So when he sits down and holds his hands up like this. Right? Is that what is he communicating with that in particular?
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• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he's doing it as a show of I think both respect. He is part of this philosophy. We are talking here about the symbol that is portraying as being the eye of Horus. So Horus is the son of Osiris. Aulus is fundamental in the religion of Telema because Alice Crowley, as I explained in volume eight of my confessions, you see we have here some really diabolic synchronicity going on.
• 33:04
  In the year in which Alistair Crowley was evoking the forces of darkness in the middle of the desert somewhere in Northern Africa, you had also the first film being shot in Hollywood. And earlier on in 1904, Crowley had gone to Egypt during his honeymoon with Rose who was his wife. And strange things happened because Crowley wanted to impress his wife. But at the same time Crowley had interrupted the magic of Abramelin, the mage he had started a year prior to that in Bolleskayne's cotron. So now people, of course, who are following you say, What is all this?
• 33:57
  What was he doing in Bolleskayne? What happened was this. He clearly became a member of the Golden Dawn. The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn is a secret society that was very fashionable back then in Victorian times. It had seen the membership of some of the most important intellectuals, military, all kinds of people that were influential will join the Golden Dawn mainly from the ranks of Free masonry.
• 34:28
  Some of them though not necessarily. Crowley is always accused of not ever being a member of regular Freemasonry, but in reality the boundaries between set up nowadays by regular Freemasonry that prohibit intervisitation and all that were a little bit more difficult to establish back then because he got irregular initiated, but then he was able to go into the regular lodges simply signing with a false name and just having a worship or master of that lodge, closing an eye and knowing exactly who he was. And there is testimonies of Croix doing that more than once in the United Grand Lodge of England because they had accused him of not having been initiated regularly. And when he sought regular initiation, he ended up being initiated in the Grand Lodge de France, which at the time briefly was still regular but then joined the Grand Oriental France in that network, which I explained earlier, kind of detached from the British network. So Aristocracy in 1904 was practicing this magic of every male in the mage, which had been translated by his mentor who was in Paris, who was though MacGregor Mathers.
• 35:43
  MacGregor Mathers had translated with Crowley and had published a grimoire the year prior to 1904 that it was one of these grimoires. You have the Leggemeton, you have these grimoires that basically are all allegedly connected to King Solomon. But they all kind of appeared between, let's say in the late part of let's say in the medieval times they started to surface, but then they really surfaced during the Renaissance predominantly they had as a feature that kind of puts them all in common the fact that King Solomon was seen as the one who had some secret knowledge. So these grimoires would always say the keys of Solomon, the keys, the secrets of Solomon. It was all very Solomonic magic that was the thing.
• 36:47
  And of course, we are going back to the fact that who might have taken advantage of all this. So the Sabbath in Frankist were of course Jews, they knew exactly what Solomonic magic might and how to manipulate also the people outside of the Jewish world by maybe twisting things that will be judged as heretical and outrageous within the Jewish community. In any case, Alistair Crowley and Gregor Mathers translated this grimoire. Crowley had the intention of practicing one of these prayers, the invocation of the boneless one, within the Great Pyramid Of Giza in front of his wife to impress her. It starts the recitation, the sleep.
• 37:39
  It was possible for rich people who came from Europe to book a night inside the Giza Pier. If you had a little wanting to live the thrill of I pursued myself went there and I never wanted to either sleep there or even go in there. I stayed outside. I was kind of warned even by the Sufi people there that were they actually invited me to go with them and pray and I refused though. In any case, Crowley instead went inside there and in front of his new wife started to practice this to recitate this grimoire and suddenly after a while from this, I will say highly demonic experience because it was highly demonic what he was trying to do inside that pyramid.
• 38:34
  Let's remember one thing, the pyramids on the contrary of what people might think are not only a burial chamber of sorts, they have been used in ancient times for initiations to the pharaohs, to the high priests basically of Memphis and then before that of Alexandria. There is basically a way to achieve below what is above. It's a reflection now, teach by the Emerald tablets which are at the basis of hermeticism. So Crowley recites this thing and suddenly the wife goes in trance, starts saying, they want to talk to you, they want to talk to you. And he's drawn to the Cairo Museum where at Exhibit Number 666 he finds what he was searching for.
• 39:32
  And that was the message of the gods for him that basically were telling him that he will be delivering something new to the world, a new religion that he will be dictated. And this happened in the month of April, about 1904. He will be dictated in a number it's a little bit I think that what's happening here, we can see the Crowley, and this is something that I will be focusing a lot of course in my new book Volume 10 that is about to come out. He got very much inspired by Islam. And his relation with Islam is very close.
• 40:19
  People don't really know about Crowley and Islam and how Islam inspired the birth of his own religion of Telema, which then became the religion of the Illuminati. So in fact, today, the most influential organization that is claiming to represent Alistair Crowley and actually won all the in court. So they are the ones who take all the money for the copyrights and everything else. It calls itself the OTO Caliphate. And initially the people used to always say that the American intelligence had sent this guy called Grady McNarty to Crowley to learn things.
• 41:06
  And because he was basically operating from California Cali, California Caliph, It kind of sounded good to Crowley this mix, to mix the two things. The fact that that is most influential lodge of the Ordo Templi Orientes that you're showing was in California. And so Calif, California, it kind of But then at the same time, the heads of the Ortho Temperientes started to behave like Muslims and wear the turban and be So it's a little bit weird what's happening here because you have an organization that also claims to have a religious arm, which is the Ecclesia Gnostic Catholic. So they come from that Gnostic Miliio del Luminati, which basically the Gnostics are the luminati that just evolve and add different elements and probably in that symbol that you just shown has if you can show it again, I can describe. You see, for example, here you have the symbolism of his own sexual magic.
• 42:19
  The cap, the holy grail, which becomes then for Crowley the vagina. And I'm sorry to be very we have the dab that is going in like this. That is supposed to be the sperm. And then on top of all that, you have the Ioboros, which was the symbol that Paul McCartney was giving. So I think that we have given the answer in a very detailed manner.
• 42:52
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, it all comes full circle. It's it's it's incredible, and I I wanted to just mention one thing you mentioned earlier, you're talking about people saying, oh, it's all the Jews, or it's all this. I find that a lot of people, especially here in America, I think based upon a lot of the Hollywood training of good guy, bad guy, we make things very black and white, and it's not. It's not just one group.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: It's Very for me personally, you see, I came here to America, and I was collaborating actively with InfoWars a lot. And I still held in high esteem the work that InfoWars has done in the past and also helped me in spreading what was my research. But at one point they themselves kind of put a break on all that because I was trying to really dig deep always And I was trying to explain that things are not so black and white. I was very critical of the fact that they gave the space to Conyers to spill all that antisemitic nonsense. And I think that is really stupid to side without really knowing what's happening in The Middle East with one side or the other.
• 44:13
  And that's why I'm about to release volume 10, which will silence everybody because there is more than a thousand years of history regarding Islam, regarding also the West and an alliance that has been going on for a long time secretly behind the scenes. But Hollywood is in a way also product of all this. And you see, when we talk about Hollywood, we have to understand that the first people to launch Hollywood and to make movies were very controversial people, very controversial people that in a way today will probably not have any kind of space in Hollywood. Hollywood there was a place of compromise because when you think about, for example, Charlie Chaplin, one of the very, I mean here we're talking about a guy who people really don't know much about his origins.
• 45:18
  Seth Holehouse: Folks, have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that had infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're going to destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year and this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's gonna get rough. And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply.
• 45:51
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• 46:23
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• 47:05
  Speaker 2: And apparently his origins are within that Sabbatean world. And he himself was unfortunately accused, but actually there is also evidence of pedophilia practices from somebody who everybody tends to think, Oh wow, this is the hero. This is the guy who has enacted the dictator Adolf Hitler and who has basically derided Adolf Hitler. Adolf Hitler was another product of the Sabbatian Frankist. Rabbi Malvin Antelman, and this is something that I also bring up in my books, has stated there is a lot of evidence that he was himself the product of actually a Sabbathian Frankist ritual in 1888, that he himself was not only of Jewish origins like has been claimed many times, but that he was a product of that Sabbatian Frankist milieu.
• 48:08
  And so, I mean, imagine the ridiculousness of somebody like Connie West who shows this bastika. Where does this bastika comes from? Now this vastica is a symbol that Adolf Hitler found in the cover of a publication by Frans Huffman of the Theosophical Society. The Theosophical Society basically was the first one to use this vastica in all the publications also of Madame Blavaski. And Madame Blavaski, I think, has done more for ruining this planet than anybody else.
• 48:43
  I think that Anthony Lavein in comparison is a wannabe. I think that Michael Aquino also. And actually when I was friends with Michael Aquino, because I was friends with the late Michael Aquino before, of course, exiting the Illuminati, he himself confessed me in an email that I published, I think, volume two of my book Fashion, that his most cherished thing was the membership of the Theosophical Society. So it's about understanding all these nuances and these things. Otherwise, you know, you are ignorant like Connie West and you start parading vast figures accusing all the Jews of being this and that.
• 49:26
  No, it's not. That's not the case. And that's why I went on Infowars one of the last times I was their guest on one of their shows when I presented, Volume eight of my confessions and I said this is a book that Connie West should read to really understand what is going on in Hollywood. And we need to have a talk about it because otherwise this growing antisemitism is becoming really outrageous. I mean, I understand what's happening in Gaza.
• 50:01
  It's very difficult to understand for many people. But the problem is they don't have a knowledge of The Middle East. They never been in The Middle East. I have been in The Middle East. I have been in Turkey.
• 50:13
  I've studied with the Sufis. I was part of Islam at one point of my life unfortunately when I actually ended up marrying my first wife and having my kid that I never saw again. Now I don't know if I should say this, but I might give you a scoop here that just to touch you on one of the most important revelations that I make in my new book because it touches me personally. My son was taken and is in the hands of the most important Muslim member of the World Economic Forum. And I haven't seen him since early two thousand and eight.
• 51:08
  We have the evidence. So this is not a speculation. My former wife married, remarried with the guy who is on Klaus Schwab site as a senior Muslim representative. I don't need to add anything else about the relevance and the importance of my books because people can talk as much as they want on these channels, but nobody has given up their own son to Klaus Schwab. So I leave it here for people to learn more about my own experience with Islam as Khaled Saifullah Khan, that was my name.
• 52:03
  And then you will be judging what's really going on behind the scene. So stop doing all those idiotic anti Semitic things against Israel, which is trying to survive. I understand that Israel was constructed thanks to the British Israel mythology and all that. But in the end, the other nation that exists and that has the right to exist because we have been persecuting those people all over the world and push them towards Israel. And so now they are there, we shouldn't ever, ever, ever attack them in any way, shape or form.
• 52:48
  And so I know very well what Islam has planned together with the Illuminati and I will be unveiling it soon. And at that point, it's up to you if you want to continue to, like all these colleagues like Alex Jones who want to continue not understanding that supporting in any way, shape or form a mass of the Palestine cause is completely outrageous and not acceptable. So of course, we understand that Israel is compromised. Israel is in the hands partly of the labor Zionists who are a product of the Sabbathian Frankists. So of course, they are compromised.
• 53:35
  And probably the compromise is what people tend to misunderstand and then blame everything on the Zionist, on the big conspiracy that then is ever so popular since the protocols of the Elders of Zion came into existence. So when I talk in Bohemiah about Jewish Hollywood, talk about the Sabbathian Frankish Hollywood, I talk about those elements of the Sabbathian Frankish world that thanks to this mouthpiece were able to influence our lives. I mean, just watch that Sabbatian Heredi, Vudi Allen, I mean, that guy shouldn't be even close to a synagogue or to anything resembling a proper interpretation of Judaism. In fact, it's not. You have to understand that he's a product like many other Jews today of so called progressive liberal Judaism that took shape and form.
• 54:42
  And I'm not saying this myself, but some of the most eminent Jewish historians say that because of the Sabbatianist Frankist movement. So
• 54:52
  Seth Holehouse: What's interesting, I'll throw out there is that, you know, I'm learning a lot from you, and I appreciate all the different perspectives, and why I this. I try and listen to a lot of different people in peace together. One thing I've also come to in my own understanding is that you're right. It's never just this blanket label. And actually, lot of the people I think that are evil and satanic and sufarian, they hide behind things.
• 55:13
  And so to say, it's like, okay, are there a lot of very evil people within the Jewish religion? So so called Jews that have a lot of power and control, and they're pushing various satanic agendas. Yes. But to say that, like, it's the Jews that run Hollywood, and therefore, like, it's almost like saying the Chinese are evil. It's like, no.
• 55:33
  The CCP and the communists are evil. But the but the just because you're Chinese doesn't mean that you are an evil communist. A lot of the
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Chinese That's why it's in the Catholic world. The the Sabbath in Frank is to run the Jews in Hollywood are simply a sector.
• 55:48
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: So it's a little bit stupid also of people. And here I would like to clear up another thing. I have a book which is actually not mine, but it's a book that I think people should read about that misled, misunderstood thing that the circle is often in conspiracy circle about the Jews of Khazaria. The Jews are Khazarians and the Khazarians are plotting. Listen guys, Like this book demonstrates, there is no DNA of the Khazarians because the Khazarians are not a race, an ethnicity that was Jewish from the start.
• 56:27
  They simply embrace Judaism for a specific period of time. They are not the ancestors of the Ashkenazi. The Ashkenazi come from another part of the world, from another part of Europe, which is Germany mainly, the heart of Europe there, the Northern Europe. And we have the Sephardic Jews. But there is no Kazarian Jews.
• 56:49
  There's no race. And this book is based on DNA studies and everything that basically people tend to ignore. In fact, Kevin Allenbrooke has done an excellent job. I think it is important that people don't generalize, but also don't fall in conspiracy theories that are rather stupid in the end because this Kazarian thing has been debunked a million time, but people tend to not understand it. Oh, they are all evil.
• 57:15
  The Ashkenazis are all the Ashkenazi. Okay, fine. So now all the Ashkenazi are evil. No. Ashkenazi, the Rothschild family.
• 57:24
  Yeah, maybe. We have an Ashkenazi family that has done evil. That's okay. Fine. But we have also families of Methodist, families of evangelists, families of Catholics, families of Hindus that have done evil.
• 57:38
  So it's important to really not generalize stupidly, especially when it comes to races, ethnicities. And I think that that's what I'm trying to do with my books is to put some clarity in these questions that a lot of people have.
• 57:57
  Seth Holehouse: Well, it's it's much more complex. So I have one final thing I wanted to touch upon with you. Just one other video. So you talked about Anton LaVey. Right?
• 58:07
  So the founder of the Church of Satan, this guy right here who's also on the cover of the the Beatles album we talked about. So there's a
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: That that is Alistair Curley who's been covered.
• 58:17
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, sorry.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Anton LaVey was a Alistair Crowley disciple who disillusioned by Crowleyanity in the early 60s. He was part of a Crowley group active in Berkeley and that then moved on to then found the first Grand Lodge of the OTO in 1977. But Anton LaBe, he liked Crowley, but he thought Crowley was a little bit too complex for the masses. He wanted to bring satanism to a more poptastic approach. And that poptastic approach needed to go through movies, cartoons, and needed to be developed in a way that people could understand.
• 59:05
  And that's why he wrote The Satanic Bible, which eventually became one of the most read books in The United States sadly, sadly after the Bible. So the satanic approach of Anton LaVey in 1966, he founds this Church of Satan, and it's the first stage of modern Satanism. I find that, like I say in my books, modern Satanism has three stages: 1966, '19 '70 four-seventy '5 with Michael Aquino founding the Temple of Set. And I described in volume eight of my confessions that Hollywood was deeply involved with this whole thing that then brought Aquino and LaVey to separate. Because Michael Aquino and Anton LaVey wanted to know what happened to Merleys Morrow.
• 1:00:02
  So one night they did a ritual. They went to the former house of the actress and they wanted to know if she had been killed or not by evoking her spirit. So they did like I described, but this is by the way, it's a citations that in my book you can find that are from reliable sources within, of course, Michael Aquino's writings or ward or church and everything else. So this experience ended up with them in this temple the morning after. And because it was successful, it was so successful, this experience, Anton LaBe awarded Michael Aquino the title of Magister Templi, which had been given to nobody outside of himself.
• 1:00:57
  So he claimed to be the only Magister Templi, the only master of the temp. So he makes Michael Aquino Magister template and the day after he was made Magister template, Michael Aquino walks away and says, I'm going to create my own thing closer to Crowley rather than closer to the people and all that pop tastic stuff of going on TV like Antonovay used to do and parading as he was, you know, just bringing sadism to the masses in an innocent way where the only evil thing they were doing was basically showing a naked woman on the altar and everything else was just not true. They were not sacrificing animals or people or anything. Now we know instead that Anton LaVey was also connected to real satanism behind the scenes. He had a public facade and then he had a secret life.
• 1:01:57
  But then we also know one thing. Michael Aquino went on to create a diabolic organization that probably influenced more the military by initiating within his group officers, most of them military intelligence officers initially. And they went on to do a couple of rituals in the 80s, thanks to our own tax money in the Castle Of Bebersburg in Germany, which used to be the headquarters of Himmler during the Second World War. A place which was built sacrifice and the death also many Jewish people who were used as a slave labor for this castle that basically had this temple, low chamber, where they celebrated these rituals in France. And then there was this smoke, so they go up to the upper chamber.
• 1:03:06
  And you can still go and visit this place because it's a museum these days. It's been opened, reopened as a museum. But at the time in the eighties, it wasn't. Michael Aquino did a couple of rituals there. And I also mentioned that, of course, in my book.
• 1:03:25
  When you were we were actually discussing this show before we started, we mentioned Taylor Swift. There is a lot of talk about Taylor Swift today in the media. But I think that the most far out hypothesis that has been circulating is that Taylor Swift is the product of the daughter of Anton LaBeijn Zina and Nicholas Schreck, the former husband, who is also a very high level member of the Satanist Illuminati. And Zina at one point walked out of the Church of Satan and was a high level member. Actually, she was the head of the temple of Seth of Michael Aquino.
• 1:04:11
  And apparently there is this, if we want to call it conspiracy theory, I don't know. I mean it is basically an hypothesis. She looks very much like the young Xena who used to go also on TV on those talk shows in the 80s. So if you compare Taylor Swift with Xena, you are kind of thinking is she a clone of some kind? Is she a product of how did Taylor Swift came together?
• 1:04:48
  So for those who don't know, Nikola Schreck is the creator of a magic musical collective called Radio Werewolf founded in 1984 in Los Angeles. And he was also the guy who did a documentary and interviewed personally, Charles Manson. So there is, you see, they look pretty alike. Is a similarity there. Of course, this could be simply an internet legend, but I must say that this story has a lot of points that make it quite credible.
• 1:05:33
  Seth Holehouse: And, Leo, let me let me show you one video real quick because I wanna because it ties in Anton LaVey and Taylor Swift. And so this is a video of someone saying that, okay. Here's proof that Taylor Swift is using satanic hand symbols to cast spells. Right? So let me play this.
• 1:05:49
  It it's it's, like, about, you know, half, you know, half a minute. But let me play this, and we'll get your your thoughts on this and see if there's any validity to this or if it's another just kind of groundless, baseless idea.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: So in this video, you can clearly see she's throwing up the devil horns over here. Right? Dave, what are you doing? I'm giving a blessing to the to the audience. I don't think they appreciate it.
• 1:06:08
  They were throwing it back. Well, they thought it was a curse. Would you like me to show them how the sign of the curse works? Sign of the different. How does it go?
• 1:06:18
  No. Not at you. Not at you people out there in the audience, but this is the difference. Aim it toward red China, would you? This is the sign of the horns.
• 1:06:27
  A curse sign, the two fingers extended. This way spread apart for sort of shotgun blast. Know? I always wondered if I ever met the devil, it'd have dirty fingernails. Go on.
• 1:06:38
  The other ones too. Yeah. What are the other ones? The other ones one of them is the pox sign. That's three fingers extended.
• 1:06:43
  Pox on you? A pox on you during the middle ages.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Gotcha, bitch.
• 1:06:47
  Seth Holehouse: So, I mean, what what do you think of that? Is that is that indication that maybe there are these satanic occult things behind that and that there are these spells and there are curses being cast on people that engage in listening to this music?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, of course, we see, for example, and I wrote about in volume eight, connection, the direct connection that we have with satanism with Lady Gaga When she did her documentary for Netflix, instead of choosing any kind of music, she chose the soundtrack, one of the most evil soundtracks ever made by Bobby Bessouleil in prison after he was arrested for participating to the murders of the families of Charles Manson. And so this music, which was used then for the soundtrack of Lucifer Rising, which is this movie of Kenneth Anger, was actually a substitute to another soundtrack that was not used, was ditched by Kenneth Anger, and that soundtrack was made by Jimmy Page, Jebel, and Zeppelin. But then they argued and so he used Bobby Bessouille. But Bobby Bessouille is an incredible character. After Lady Gaga used his music, he had the courage to search for an appeal here in California so he could finally be freed.
• 1:08:17
  He was rejected. The appeal was, thanks God. I mean, I know the newsroom is satanic and California is a place I'm living here, but unfortunately it's in the hands of the enemy, but they didn't want to free at least Bobby Bezulail because I think that would have been pretty outrageous. Let's remember that the Tate La Bianca murders are some of the most brutal murders ever and also were built with the instigation idea of the race war, which now actually seems to be very popular these days, the race war. I mean, nowadays it's the democrats who want in fact start a race war.
• 1:09:01
  And the democrats very much love everything that comes out of these occult milieurs. Now when it comes down to Taylor Swift and the use of certain symbols during her concerts, but also the symbology that she uses, I saw other clips of her music. It's obvious that she is just the last of a very long line of people who has been using and abusing these occult elements. I don't think they even make a secret anymore about the use of the occult. It's pretty evident.
• 1:09:39
  They even at times admit it. The public is saying, Oh, well, I signed myself a deal with Satan. I'm fine, whatever. Or I signed off to Satan. I'm great.
• 1:09:51
  I can continue here in this business forever. And I mean, and I'm not talking only of Bob Dylan, but also many others who did the same lately. So it's like almost cool to have signed a pact with the devil. But the consequences of arguing the devil are very serious. So, I mean, these people might rule here in the in the kingdom of materialism, but when they end up dead, they will probably rot in hell.
• 1:10:24
  That's it. You know?
• 1:10:26
  Seth Holehouse: That's a good point. Well, Leo, we have to actually conclude. And so but before we do sign off, I wanna bring up your website, encourage people to check out your website. You've got a lot of very good information on here. Also, your books just by they're they're on the site, but also Amazon, whatnot.
• 1:10:43
  Leo Zagami, you've got many books with another volume coming out. Yes. And I just wanna say I appreciate you coming on. I I appreciate your perspective. You are someone that makes me think deeply about things.
• 1:10:56
  You're not someone that just repeats things that you've heard. You you come from deep research and experience, which I think is important. And I just wanna, again, thank you very much for coming on the show. It's a fascinating conversation.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Thank you, Jamian, and I hope that the next time we can dig deep in my latest book on Islam and secret societies around this religion, which is so influential today. And to understand a little bit more, I think serves the purpose of making us all more aware, less ignorant, and also less hateful. Because hate doesn't bring you anywhere. And we need to bring a little bit more peace to this world, which is on the verge of the abyss.
• 1:11:48
  Of course, they would like us to just move further into this abyss and then finally probably get all blown up by a nuclear explosion. But we want to continue living on this planet peacefully. We have to understand also the reasons of the other parties involved. And so thank you for really giving me this opportunity today with Mar in America.
• 1:12:13
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: America as a new American. God bless America.
• 1:12:17
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