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Muna Takes Over the Meta: Is This the Most Dominant Pick of the Season? · Archons Corner

• 0:20
  Speaker 1: But what's going on? Everybody. I'm the one, the only
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  Speaker 1: the w o o kay i e a hungover w
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  Speaker 1: o o kay i E here with my my favorite
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  Speaker 1: kid in my science class, Dexter. Hello everybody, and of
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: course my right hand man, who's gonna really take the
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: take the brunt of this episode, mister Cole Rodney.
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  Speaker 2: We uh yeah, I mean I talk too much all
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  Speaker 2: the time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you don't. I don't understand. It's a three man podcast.
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: I don't understand, Like I talk too Buch. I'm gonna
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: let you guys talk now. You have all the information.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: Like half of time, when we're like, I wonder this
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: thing and you're like, well I might know something, and
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: you're like, well tell us that. You're like, ah, maybe
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  Speaker 1: next week, and then you're like, but I'm going to
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: keep it quiet this week. Like that's that's the typical
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: like loop we go in every single week. But it's okay,
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: we're going into what we're calling this week the moonisode.
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  Speaker 1: I guess. Oh, I feel like this is a very
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  Speaker 1: terrible statistic. Over fifty percent of the cast is now
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: plays Muna. There are only three of us, so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it is it is statistically correct.
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  Speaker 1: Over there it is?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, also so that people stay longer. This is
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: actually we're talking about why Ortists is the best? Uh
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: So just make sure you stick around for the whole
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: thing and you'll hear about why Ortists is that?
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: Is that a April fools thing that we're doing this week?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's kind of April fools. I just
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  Speaker 2: titled the live show why or this is the best
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  Speaker 2: as a joke, because if I titled it the Muona
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  Speaker 2: so then maybe nobody would come.
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  Speaker 3: People don't like Muna of this whole thing that everybody
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  Speaker 3: liked Muna.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Muna is the most popular faction numbers wise,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's the most popular faction
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  Speaker 2: amongst people that join the live cast.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I bet you it is. I would put I
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  Speaker 1: would put good, good money on if we pulled, everyone
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  Speaker 1: would say, Muna is probably be up there. It'd be
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  Speaker 1: up there. I don't know how far. Oh.
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  Speaker 4: No, we see a lot of Axiom people here.
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  Speaker 1: Surprisingly we see one Axiom person.
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  Speaker 3: There's three different ones, aren't there, Indorvian and no I
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  Speaker 3: forgot the people's names.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Dorvian Doombringer and.
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  Speaker 1: I know that much.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it's just them too.
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  Speaker 2: I think different people play a lot of variation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like Freeloader plays just all over the place, ruin Folk
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  Speaker 2: plays whatever he can play to annoy people. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what people that listen to the recording mostly play.
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  Speaker 2: I guess going off of the YouTube comments, what did
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  Speaker 2: what did we get recently? Someone? No, just just comments
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube the YouTube version of the podcast. There's someone
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  Speaker 2: making a Lindaway deck. Let's see someone the same. Someone
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  Speaker 2: is also playing at Saudi. Yeah, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: we've had anything.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people play multiple heroes, multiple factions.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if we've had any other express I
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  Speaker 2: play this. So if you hear this, let us know
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  Speaker 2: what you play. But we're going to talk about Muna because,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, over fifty percent of the cast now
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  Speaker 2: has been playing a lot of Muna.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Well not me, though I've not I've
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  Speaker 1: not taken the hurdle in.
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  Speaker 4: You haven't touched moon.
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  Speaker 1: Though I haven't touched the moon. I ain't gonna lie
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  Speaker 1: to nobody. So first off, we need to ask the question, Dexter,
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: why did you switch from artists to Muna?
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  Speaker 3: Because Waru kept getting nerved and that sucked, and I
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  Speaker 3: really enjoyed for a long time. And it became just
• 5:03
  Speaker 3: after that nerve where it now no longer makes a
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  Speaker 3: token and you're forced to always put it asleep, destroyed
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  Speaker 3: it completely. It is now completely meta, irrelevant and very
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  Speaker 3: difficult to win games with. And I do not like
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  Speaker 3: playing if I cannot win games, So I didn't play.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't play Waru anymore.
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  Speaker 3: I tried Stiggy for a little bit, but it just
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  Speaker 3: didn't vibe with me as well as Waru, and I'd
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  Speaker 3: played Tasia.
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  Speaker 4: Some prior, so I just kept playing it.
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  Speaker 3: And I enjoyed the anchoring and boosting aspect that Taja
• 5:37
  Speaker 3: have Teja has, and how it can The Floral tent
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  Speaker 3: is great in that is probably the new best edition
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  Speaker 3: in Trial by Frost. That makes it so much better.
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  Speaker 3: Lets you go through your cards a lot faster and
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  Speaker 3: play a more agro build.
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  Speaker 4: So I've been playing the Agro Tajia build.
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  Speaker 1: That's the other one. Everyone else just has this, Matt
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  Speaker 1: And I was just gonna say, everyone's got this rock
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  Speaker 1: hard hard on for Tasia all Tatasia, Tasia, Taya so
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: tired of hearing about Tasa.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's it's the easiest mona hero to play because
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  Speaker 2: you you don't have to do too much extra to
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  Speaker 2: work around her hero ability. I've just played her since
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: day one, basically, back when I first started playing with
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  Speaker 2: demo decks or doing the road show, there wasn't written
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  Speaker 2: or our June, so I've just kind of always been
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  Speaker 2: on Tasia. And I think now I just don't have
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  Speaker 2: the time to make decks for the other two, especially
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  Speaker 2: with the Tumults coming up, So I'm gonna be on
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  Speaker 2: on Tasia for at least the rest of this season.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I still might switch from Tasia if
• 7:06
  Speaker 3: something weird happens and all of a sudden Finn starts
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  Speaker 3: doing really good, I would be perfectly happy building a
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  Speaker 3: fin deck.
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  Speaker 2: I hate We'll just not We'll just.
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  Speaker 3: Be saying without good uniques.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, I'm just not gonna talk about it because I
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  Speaker 2: want to keep you on Tasia, so I just won't
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  Speaker 2: say anything to prove you wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, now you need to say it, Come on
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  Speaker 1: out with it.
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  Speaker 3: It's but I don't think it's been doing that crazy good.
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  Speaker 2: I think Fenn is probably the most versatile hero right now.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Fenn is the best against any other hero,
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  Speaker 2: so like, uh, you know, with Tasia there's some very
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: strong counters, like Kojo can be really hard, although my
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  Speaker 2: new version is doing decent so far against Kojo. I
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  Speaker 2: think I'm two and one or two and zero against
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  Speaker 2: Kojo's on the two point zero version. But Siggy is
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  Speaker 2: is really hard to go against. That's what I went
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  Speaker 2: against tonight in Ace, and I just got Siggy very
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  Speaker 2: good unique that put things to sleep on play. Basically
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  Speaker 2: it was a root inscribe I think just destroyed me.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think Fenn is very very good, and
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  Speaker 2: she has been getting a lot more results in the
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: past three weeks or so. Yeah, so I like to
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  Speaker 2: This is actually kind of insight into how I look
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  Speaker 2: at things. I don't really scrub the data and do
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  Speaker 2: like further analysis. But if you go to thirty nine
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  Speaker 2: cards dot Com and you go to the hero section,
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: you can just see a quick glance at like how
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  Speaker 2: many placements the hero has. It'll have like the most recent,
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  Speaker 2: and then it'll'll say and one hundred and sixty seven more.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, Tasia and Fen are basically like tied for placements,
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  Speaker 2: and then if you go down to Wau Wau is
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  Speaker 2: at one hundred and four ish basically, But if you
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: go back far enough into like October, like if we
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: take Exalts Celebration Season one, can I find this in
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  Speaker 2: the list? There was a period of time and if
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: people are newer to the game, they might not have
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  Speaker 2: experienced this. But first place WARU, third place war it's
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  Speaker 2: a sixth war, seventh war, eighth Wau, ninth WAH, tenth WARU,
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  Speaker 2: eleventh waru uh, and then Kojo trace sigis marifanis Waru.
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  Speaker 2: So uh. It is always very interesting. This is a
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  Speaker 2: side note, kind of very interesting to me when people
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  Speaker 2: say that the meta is not very diverse, because I
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  Speaker 2: think what it.
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  Speaker 4: Looked like a lot better now.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, what it looked like in October is more.
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  Speaker 3: Like what what people are saying is happening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, But why no goring. You tried goring
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  Speaker 2: for like a day.
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  Speaker 3: I tried it for probably about a week. It was
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: just hard for me to get going. I didn't really
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  Speaker 3: see any lines that I was able to win frequently.
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  Speaker 4: Tiggy I was able to win pretty often.
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  Speaker 3: But I just didn't enjoy how it played, how it
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  Speaker 3: felt like I didn't feel like I was playing it right,
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  Speaker 3: and you I just really wanted those busted uniques, and
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  Speaker 3: if I didn't have them, I'm like, Eh, this just
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  Speaker 3: feels not my style. So I didn't like it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so I like TSA more. Tasia's more fun. Anchoring is cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if I if I make it down to the
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  Speaker 2: I guess event on the twenty six, we might have
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  Speaker 2: to make you play Finn.
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  Speaker 4: So make me play Finn. Why fellas playing Finn?
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  Speaker 2: Because I don't want to. I don't want to beat
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  Speaker 2: you and knock you out of getting one of those
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  Speaker 2: Scout cards.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, sure confident?
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  Speaker 2: Uh probably not because you play very meta and I don't.
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  Speaker 2: So that increases chances?
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  Speaker 4: It does. Indeed, what are you?
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  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Muna in general? Wookie?
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  Speaker 1: I think Muna dumb. It's just not my Again, we
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  Speaker 1: talked a lot about style already. It ain't my style.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it and not not not for Wookie. I
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  Speaker 1: don't like it. Sorry, there's there's not you know, I remember.
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  Speaker 1: You know what really turned me off to Muna, like
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: all together talking to me, no was when I think
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  Speaker 1: it was when Robin Hood originally had gotten Arota and
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  Speaker 1: everyone's oh, now Tajia is gonna take over, and it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: so there's I was like, so there's no other good here,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know you Muna players are all like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: like Cubs fans, right, Like you're kind of irritated. Not
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  Speaker 1: all of you, but a lot of you are just
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  Speaker 1: kind of like, yep, Moon to best now ever, and
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  Speaker 1: even though you're gonna lose a hundred games this season,
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  Speaker 1: like Moon is the best. What there's plenty of other heroes.
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  Speaker 2: Un is the best because Muna is the best, and.
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  Speaker 1: Like you're you're still gonna have a losing record, but
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  Speaker 1: you're like moona best.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly so irritated action should be.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I I think.
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  Speaker 1: They're a little too loyal, little too loyal.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: Always loyal. There's a subset of people that I think
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  Speaker 2: are just reactionary to those type of things. And now
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  Speaker 2: they've turned their sights on to the anchoring uniques. So
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  Speaker 2: the big thing is about how anchoring uniques are the
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  Speaker 2: most rusted in the game. And you'll definitely hear that
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  Speaker 2: from a lot of artist players for some reason.
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  Speaker 1: Well probably because all of their good cards were recently
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  Speaker 1: eroded to oblivion.
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  Speaker 4: It was the only Osma Wookie.
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  Speaker 1: They don't even exist anymore.
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  Speaker 2: They're still.
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  Speaker 4: What are you talking about? What's what doesn't exist anymore?
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Ortis has gotten hit pretty hard. Let's be honest.
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  Speaker 4: I think is still top hero.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still pulling tons of weight. I think Ortists
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  Speaker 2: just has too many tools to be hit very hard.
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  Speaker 4: More training is so good.
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  Speaker 2: Statistically, Axiom has been hit the hardest and actually fallen.
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  Speaker 1: Get the hardest.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The Haven just completely took.
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  Speaker 3: Out Trace was the only Axiom hero pulling any weight
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  Speaker 3: in the meta. They killed Traced, So no Axiom has nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah wow, like that that article that we went over
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  Speaker 2: last week, Yeah, that had the breakdown and Axioms at
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  Speaker 2: eleven point four percent of played and then.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Doing just fine. I'm looking at their stats A Wall
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Season two week eight, they had two five and two's
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  Speaker 1: if they had an eleventh place finish in the AQZ
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: eleventh in A Wall season two, five and one in
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: the No Uniques is it the No Uniques Challenge or
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: No Uniques Championship Championship Championship? Okay, I mean they're doing
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: just fine. I think a lot of Axiom players are
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: just crying. But you know, to be fair, everyone cries
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: when their favorite cards get hit. I don't know if
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: the Axiom has been hit that hard. Yeah, well they
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: had one card targeted.
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  Speaker 2: It took them down to the very bottom. So I
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  Speaker 2: I think people are very I've already said it a
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  Speaker 2: million times. People are reactionary to bands or erratas. But statistically,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: if there's any faction that suffered the most, it's been Axiom.
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  Speaker 2: But I think the meta is just in a pretty
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: good place right now. If you say that in the
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  Speaker 2: main discord, though, you'll have three people that will want
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: to fight you.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: So well, that's any card game, though, Let's let's be
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: honest with that. Get one. Anytime you're anytime you have
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: somebody that's like the meta is in a good place,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: there's somebody's gonna be like, oh yeah, it's like that
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: guy who posts on Facebook, like just posts a picture
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: or like, uh, this is just a proof people want
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  Speaker 1: to fight about anything. It's just a picture and like
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: that it's nothing. Yep, no, no, aw, I don't like it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like it because my favorite faction isn't doing
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: well and that's kind of just a problem in any
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: faction based game.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I had someone call me the guy who
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: believes in fake chart. So it's fake?
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: What?
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fake chart chart?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Because yeah, that's my next question.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: The infographic. The chart we were just talking about that
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: they put in the news articles showing the faction spread.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: It's fake.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Know what? Who's saying that this chart is fake?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: People in the main discord? Man, I'm telling you, but.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I literally said that they just grabbed the data directly
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: from Board Game Arena.
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  Speaker 4: How would they Why would they fake it?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: It's just fake, man, It's.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Just fake, fake news.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Yep. But we're here to talk about.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: My question is what what would they have to gain
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: by posting?
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: They gained the fact of pretending that the meta is
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: in a good place when really it's.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Not, And that kinde fits that. Sorry, I'm going to continue. Honestly,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: how where does this benefit them?
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: You'd have to ask the people who uh don't like
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: the chart in the discord.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: So see, now I'm going to post the discord and
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: be like, all right, which what are you morons? Doesn't
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: like the chart? And I'm not going to get any
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: answers or I'm going to get like a million and
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: be like.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Oh, like prove prove prove it, Like go on thirty
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: nine cards and you can look all at all these
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: tournaments that are coming out or all these tournaments that
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: are out.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's a pretty wide range of diversity, yep.
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  Speaker 1: I mean if if if you.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Know, only first place matters and only first place is siggy,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: don't you know.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Well, no, that's not true at all. Right, I'm on
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: thirty nine cards right now, let's a wall season two
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: top of the finest to be fair, the next three
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: positions are sigismar, and then we got Lindway in a fawness,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and then more sigasmar so. I mean, you know the
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: no unique championship, we got fen sig Kojo traced kojo
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: kojo sig sig. I mean it's let's see a season
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: two a finess a. That's somebody that's not even talked about. Yizmeir,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: like totally flying below the well. I guess not because
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: some of their stuff is being looked at, for chin,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: but like Yazmir kind of flying under everybody's radar, Like
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: do Yazmir players just not poke anybody and hope nobody
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: pokes back. Or what's the deal.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: They have a lot of cards that got on the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: watch list.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: No, no, I saw, We saw that last week. We talked
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: about it, right, like most of Yazmir dek is on
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: a watch list right now.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know it's like they're kind of like
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: super under the radar, Like nobody's really angry. Bravos is another.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: One almost isn't doing that great?
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but nobody really cares either, right, Myron
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and Allen, I feel like nobody cares.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bravos doesn't have anything that's too annoying that can
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: make too many people mad. It's really just Ortis and
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: a fawness. Not even Yazmir except for I hate Akesha
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: because of the way people play her. M.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, if I were to be old, if I
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: were to build a moon a deck, y'all know what
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I'm building rin Yeah.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Yep, you you could make a very good written deck
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Your rin Fest deck. I'm all about that. Yeah. No, festival, yeah, absolutely,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: of course it's going to be festival. Why would it
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: not be festival?
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: All right? Then I cannot help you make a written deck.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: You can totally well, you know, there's plenty of people
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: online or information online about how to do as such.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: But you know, I, you know I love alternate wind
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: conditions and if you dangle the carrot, I'm gonna take it.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Wasn't it just two weeks ago I heard you complaining
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: about key sheets?
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Mmmm?
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: No, no, I don't believe so. But that's a different,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: totally different show. Completely No I was I complained about
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: So they're completely different. But all right, what do we
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: got coming up next? All right? So what have you got?
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, we know, Dexter, you're playing. Are you playing Taja?
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Yes? Probably?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: What do you what do you plan? I mean we're
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: looking at Tumult Championships here right now.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Dexter, this this question I wrote more as
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: like what kind of deck have you been playing? What
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: have you built around?
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: What's your what are you thinking on your deck?
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I mean I kind of carried the same ortist logic
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: into Muna, and it's like small is good, go wide.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Have have lots of small.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Dudes and get as much draw as possible. So you know,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: my deck has a lot of small dudes. The there's
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: no card that costs more than three in it Aliver,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: like kind of costs more than three if.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: You want to anchor it, but not really.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: But yeah, all my cards are one, two, or three costs,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: and I have every card that can give you draw
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: that's any good. So I have three al of eras,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: three rare spindle harvesters, and three floral tents. So I'm
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: just going low to the ground, playing lots of stuff
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: and trying to get as many cards as possible.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: And you still haven't started tracking your games yet.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: I don't track games.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Let's track work games.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who does that? Bunch of fun?
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm only playing like five a week at
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: the most.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: I'm in college. I don't have all the time in
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: the world.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Do you what do you mean by track games? Do you?
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: How do you track your games?
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Called like put them in an XL spreadsheet and be like,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I played against Finn on this day, I lost.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: By this much, and you like take notes and everything.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I did that just for one of and just to
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: kind of break down how the deck was going, because
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I have a thread in the main alter discord where
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I'm tracking, like how I'm making my deck. But we
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: we made uh mostly z may he rest in peace?
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Spreadsheets.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I made the basis of a game tracking spreadsheet
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: and then I kind of like edited it up and
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: made it so we could share it out. So it
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: is on the on the Patreon for free. You can
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: grab it and make a copy. So I just track
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: my decks and then my matchup history against my opponents
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: the like, I know that my new Tumult deck is
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: two and oh against Kojo so far h one and
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: oh against Akesha, and then zero and one against Basira,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: and then if I add I lost to Ciggy in
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Ace tonight, so zero and one against Siggy so far yep.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: So just that so I can kind of see what
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: my worst matchup is go back to that.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: So then when you come up against a minute Tumult,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: you're like, man, I just auto lose. You just hit
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: the conceed button right away? Is that the deler?
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I never concede, never surrender. I literally have never conceded
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: a game of Altered.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: I've never conceded and altered either. I've conceded a lot
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: in Keyfords, but never an altered. Literally, I've tried to concede,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, but no, I pretty much always play
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: it out unless it's like literally the last day and
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I see that my opponent will beat me. In at
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: least one expedition and there's nothing I can do about it,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: then I'll concede because I don't want to play more cards.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I'm basically just passing at that point to let them win.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a little bit of a difference between passing
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: because you know you have nothing versus like actually conceding.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Though I did not even concede that one match against
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Akesha that went fifty six minutes.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: That's wow, good for you.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess or I'm just stubborn. Who knows?
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Do you have any good Muna uniques?
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Because the two I have were kind of meh, and
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I only have two.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I've been playing Muna since the start, so of course
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Could I borrow some for two more? Maybe? See if
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: you have any I like?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: It depends if it depends on if the ones that
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I have I have in paper or not. Oh okay,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I So my current Tumult two point zero deck is
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I have removed the spindle Bashian because I go against
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: fens so much and it just never stays out. Yes,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: So my thought process is I have floral tent, which
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: is my protection for my anchored things. And then since
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: there is no Munabastian. I have no spindle harvesters because
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: they not even the commons Nope, because they're just not
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: very good with them. The boost from the Bastian.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: See, I'm also in two Kirn's and two rare nurtures
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: to boost those spindle harvesters upstance.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I have the three rare spindle.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Harvesters to just try to get as much cards as possible.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I also use Kirraene. I like him better than Ogun. Yes,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: for sure, Meta is probably Ogun, but they cost the same,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: and Kirene can boost himself and then is not limited
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: to just plants. So Ogun is really freaking crazy if
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: you if.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: You have a really wide board yeah, which is if
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: you don't have that, then Kirene stronger.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Yep. So I like to.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Ye, I'll probably take out Jack Frost. It's really only
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: good into Finn.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have instead of Jack Frost, I have Snoozer's
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: room because my thought on Jack Frost is he is
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: much better at Rare, and I think he is very
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: good in Muna at Rare, but I do not have sorry,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I do not have the rare slots to have him
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: because my my signature Muna deck has been and hopefully
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: will continue to be.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Have still running time. It's such a bad card. It's
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: not good.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: How is it not good?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Dexter?
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: You need bad hard advantage in this game, Dexter, you
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: need card advantage. And most of the time you're playing
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: the Tiny Gin, you're getting bad stats and you're only
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: getting to play one card and then yeah, I get
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: a Mana. But normally Muna's problem is that they run
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: out of cards. So having extra Mana if you don't
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: have any cards to play is not helpful.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, maybe you don't need as many cards if
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: you have a lot of anchored things and you have
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: a Mogli like I have.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: What does your Mogli do?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: About fifty of the time whenever I play my Mogli,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: someone says, oh, that Mogli is so nice. So because
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: of my Mogli, which is classic stat wise, it's four
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: one zero down line and then tiny Gin, which is
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: zero three zero. I always play tiny Gin with a
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Taja boost so it goes straight. So one four one
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: four Mountain is very easy to sneak a progression off of.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: But my new favorite edition is one single copy of
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Winter Outfits, and it is very good sneaky at a
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: single copy because the rare loses fleeting and most people
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: will not cast removal on winter outfits, but if they do,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: it's usually gonna get hit with sabotage or if they
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: actually spend something to get rid of it. They've just
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: spent removal on a one costcards. And then you know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: it's good for yourcana, it's good for my parvody, it's
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: good for.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Uh wait.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Did you say parvody. Yes, see, that's a car that
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: costs more than three It does, so I don't acknowledge
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: its existence.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: My parvody is very cracked though.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Oh your unique par body Okay.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah. Currently I'm trying a son of Yigdrasil Unique,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: and that's another reason for keeping tiny tiny Gin because
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: it is a six cost But I also have a
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: couple other higher cost uniques that I might try out,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: but tiny Gin is my card. It'll be around for
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: a very long time. It is my staple. And then
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I do have Persephone as well, which has been very
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: good for Launders down an expedition, especially with the tatoshaboost.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: How do you have slots for all these cards? Persephone?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Yep, So I'll run through my rears real quick. I
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: have three rare Persephone, two tiny Gin, three Kirene, three sneezers, Room,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: three ala Vera, one winter outfits. That's all the rares.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: So you don't have any thespians or bastions.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Nope, not in this deck. I do have a deck
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: that has thespians, but this deck I've been testing, I
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: do not.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, I just need to get more cards because I'm
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: kind of missing rares, and I have a bunch of
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: two oves and one oves that are kind of weird.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: But it's been working fine for me.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Just resorted the donation box that doesn't have very much
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: trial by frost.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Got a rare alovera rare spindle harvesters, rare thespian.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Probably not, I don't even have I just barely got
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: a third ali Vera from phobia like last week. So
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I do not have three rare in person. Yeah, but
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: that is that.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've got two boxes? Do I do I
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: crack some boxes to try to fill out my mona.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: You have to just chilling.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I have two Kickstarter boxes.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Dang, you're trying to hold onto those.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I like need the cards though
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I haven't been.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Really, what do you do?
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: What do you do with the boxes?
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: They're at home?
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I know, but what are you doing with them?
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Why are you keep them sealed?
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Maybe resell them and like.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Later, how's that going for you?
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: I haven't tried to resell?
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: You should ask Ze and Zach how.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know I've seen.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Taking a look at prices for Kickstarter, which.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: We have, we haven't looked at in a while.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: It's topicly like it used.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: To be a segment that we looked at, but we
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: haven't looked at it in a while.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: We don't need cards.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Let's see yep, one hundred bucks beyond the game Kickstarter
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: edition one O nine ninety nine. Gamer Skilled has them
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: for one forty four free shipping though free ship.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, eBay is one hundred bucks. If you shop around
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: you can find them. If you do want a kicks
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: arter box for close to one hundred dollars, joined the
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Altered Corner Discord and at big z he would love
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: to sell you one.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Oh did he take them down? Part? I'm a Patreon.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: I think I think he took them.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: I think he put him down to like he's been
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: posting a little bit in the marketplace.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Last thing he said was one hundred dollars each.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: They don't offer the deal through the Patreon anymore. That
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: was just a limited time thing. Oh yeah, I would
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: say it might be a very good time to open them,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: maybe this week, for no reason other than it might
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: be a good time to open them this week.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, and some championships.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, I am getting my box, so once I
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: resort all my keyfords and altered stuff, I guess I'll
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: have some to open some more.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I was actually thinking about this because you actually when
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: you were like, oh, I don't have a lot of
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: my cards in physical form, I was like, you know what,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I wonder how many other people are like kind of
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: in that situation where like they have cards on their
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: discs or on their you know, BGA account that they've
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: traded and whatever, but they only have the the digital version.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: They don't have anything. They don't actually have a physical card,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and there's no shipping yet. There's no uh is it the.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Marketplace marketplace and print on demand?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Print on demand isn't available yet, So how many people
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: are going to go in these uh go to these
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: events and not have what they need?
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Probably a good amount. But in my case, I just
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: also had don't care, like if I don't have if
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I don't have three, AlOH, I just won't play three yallow.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I think the people that are very serious about it
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: and very much like I have to have three of three,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of them have gotten what they want.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of like Lucy Goosey, just trade things around
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: and not care. I'm, you know, more in it for
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: the fun in the community. The other the other week
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: on discord, I was like, here are all my uniques
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: that I'm maybe not using. If you want one, just
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: let me know and I'll let it go for easy.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: And then I just made a trade with someone even
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: though I didn't really want what they had, but I
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: was like, sure, if you want this one that bad,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: let's do it.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Is a thought that kind of had popped into my head.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I wonder, yeah, I won I
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: don't know what my local area looks like because my
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: local area all play on days that I'm not able
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to make it thanks local area, which one of them
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: is a day that we podcast, which was strange. I
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: thought Friday would have been a safe data like podcasts
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: due to magic you know, uh, you know Friday Night Magic.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: They don't really have a magic community. Well, it's that
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: it's that miniatures place called Battle Brothers. They do more
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: miniatures than anything.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: But they don't have Friday Night Magic.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: They have that magic, but they don't have like it's
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: not a huge it's not a huge.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Like okay, so they can still have they.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Can still do alter. They have enough space for altered.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably probably a good amount. But if people are
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: super super serious about it, they're probably finding a way
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: to get their cards, or whenever they buy or trade
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: some online, they probably do so with hopes or intentions
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: that the person they're getting it from will ship them out.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I have traded with a couple of people who are
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: very adamant about having it shipped, and these days I
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: just tell people, I'm like, look, it's probably going to
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: cost more than this card is worth, and I can't
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: guarantee that it'll make it there if it's out of
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: the United States, So do you really want me to
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: ship it to you? It might also take a month
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: and a half.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could. I could see if it's upside of
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: if it's you know, out of us, that would make
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of sense. But like in the US, I
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: mean again, print on demands still not available. It's can
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: of a bummer. We haven't really heard. We just heard
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: it was it's coming soon again. What was that? That
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: was probably about a month ago.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: No, there is an AMA tomorrow. The last update was
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: on the like sixteenth or something. They've been very communicative,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: they keep giving updates. So twenty first, Dang, it was
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: the twenty first when we last heard. That is nine
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: days ago.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: No, was it twenty first of this month? Yeah? Oh wow,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: it seems like forever ago, maybe because it was just
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: the same news Like wasn't like much of anything. It
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: was just kind of like, yep, still not there. We'll
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: go let you know.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they gave a bunch of ins and outs and
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: technical details and stuff and how their progress was. But yeah,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: AMA tomorrow. So depending on my meetings, I'll try to
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: watch that and if myself or Simon or someone else
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: doesn't write a rundown, then I'll watch it back and
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: write a rundown. So we'll probably be talking about it
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: a week from today about on the next episode.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: We go say who normally does the breakdowns? They write
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: a little I don't know if you want to call
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: it an article or but they kind of put it
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we do have the altered TCG blog. It's
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: altered TCG dot blog. They've been spinning up a lot
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: more content lately. And then the last two recaps were
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: by Simon because I was not able, and then.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe we should see if we can get Simon on.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Is Simon overseas or he is the local state side
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: since so just like right by me?
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe we.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Should see if we can get him on because he's
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the one writing them. He'll he'll know a good chunk
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: about him.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he plays like six different TCGs a week, but
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: you know, we'll see what else. I found out like
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: last week that he plays like classic yu gi oh
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: like every other one or something like that.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: What's classic now I'm interested.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Like not like current set, Like I don't remember what
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: the word is they have for it, but it's like yeah, yeah,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: it's similar to that where it's like you can use
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: the old cards or something and it's not like new
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: meta meta. I don't know, I don't know, you.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Gi Okay, Well that's one card game. What are the
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: other five? Okay, so there's two.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a Pokemon, Judge plays Magic. That's a good
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: deal about Magic plays all of those actively weekly. So
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: that is that is about five because plays altered like
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: three days a week.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Wow. Crazy, that's that's a lot. That's more than I
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: can do.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: It is a lot. But you do have children, so
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: you have a good excuse I have.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I got three children, work an insane amount of hours.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: You know what else? What else? I another podcast, another
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: game that I try to maintain a lot going on.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: It's rough, it's rough, basicrgin key forge.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're a college kid like you you literally
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: like show up to class, do homework like that's your job.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Yep, yep, and study for exams and then fail them.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I thought you got to see.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: I got a sixty five on the first one. I
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: got a fifty on the second one. Now I have
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: a C average chemistry?
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Is I suck at it?
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: That's it?
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Can I say no more altered for you? Nothing but
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: studying for chemistry. Tune in next next week?
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Is it for like another three weeks?
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Tune in next week for how to balance uh chemical
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: equations on the show?
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah learn chemistry.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Tune in next week. We're doing Dexter's Come homework with him.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Oh man, I don't.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Know if either of us are going to do any
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: good on that.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: You know what, it's enlist sheeps help. It has been
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: a maybe we might need sheeps help because it's been
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: a lot. I'm gonna lie to you. It's been a
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: long time since I took it to chemistry class.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: A long time, probably fourteen years for me.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Let's see, I think it was I don't want to say.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Botany and zoology is what I took in college.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I don't even want to say it because I'm a
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: little little over you. But anyways, what have you guys
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: learned it? We've got a big question mark, what have
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: we learned?
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Ortis definitely has more tools, but the anchoring is fun.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: I love the spindle bastion, making all your guys tough.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know why Cole over here doesn't like it.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: That's just because it's not a.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Good matchup against Finn Just the fin matchup makes you
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: not play it when it's good into everyone else.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: I think it's really good in a traditional Metaitasia deck.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: That's not what I'm playing. And it's also a hard
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: sell in anything else because you can waste a whole
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: turn playing it, and then if it does get removed,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: it's very unfortunate.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Again, that's time to play.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: It is turned two when you play it, and a
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: spindle that's perfect.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's since there's you know, a good amount of
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: fans and a funasis out there. It's it's very hard
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: to stick with, but it is a ton of fun.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: And one of my favorite things is when someone forgets
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: that it's there and try to cast.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: The SPoD and I've done I've done so many times
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: too when I've been playing against Moonadex.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: I just I'm like target character.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Shoot, I forgot about the bastion, and now my whole
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: turns ruined.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think one of the last games I
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: played with it, that exact thing happened, and I still
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: lost because the other side just had way more to
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: work with than I did, even after their error of
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: casting a spell and having to off you go their
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: own character. So I think we've I think we've talked
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: a lot about like things we've learned and the deck construction.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: It is a Sunday night, so we can always speed
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: through the main topic here. I I think I said
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: all of my thoughts around my deck. I'm still learning.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Is there any other things you wanted to call out?
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Dexter m.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: I like Nurture a lot. Nobody else seems to play it.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: But having three on the front side for four stats
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: and then two on the backside for four stats, hitting
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: that on two guys that are anchored already and then
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: getting resupplies and then being able to discard to anchor
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: them again, and just having big stats.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Guys pretty good. I like it. I like Nurtures.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was very surprised. Oh man, can I type
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: this name right? I can just grab it from my announcement.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: So the person that one ace tonight was playing Tasia.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: I believe how you say is Jitak. It's Greek, so
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I probably said that very terribly. They have a mostly
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: pretty classic Tasia deck. Well, they do run Nurture, at
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: least according to Yeah, so I would assume I'll send
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: you this listing. I'll post it in the live chat.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: The reason that people would play Tasia or played Nurture
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: in a Tasia deck is if they had uniques just
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: like this. And it's basically when you have three uniques
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: or two to three that say, when I gain one
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: or more boosts, you anchor a character. Those are the
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: decks that you see nurture in most often. But I
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: have come to like so a little more than nurture.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you run so as well, is the thing. I
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: run three sos as well.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Nice, and I only have.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: One rare Chiron, but I run the one rare chiron
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the three spindles. I like my boost.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Why did you not make it to the end tonight?
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: I got beat by then, is what happened.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: It had a very good paper herald Unique that they
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: played on the second turn and gave two of my
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: characters fleeting, and then they clothed cocooned one of my
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: characters that had anchored and fleeting. So there goes my
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: mushroom and my Dracana, and now I have no cards,
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: and it did I have no way to come back
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: if I played two cards expecting one of them to
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: stay there and then to be able to replay the
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: other one and then replay the other one, and having
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: anchored and having cards on the board, I just lost
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: like basically four cards from those two fleetings. And I'm
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: just like, well, I can't play anything.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: I have no cards anymore.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: I didn't see my floral tents or my spindle harvesters
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: until too late.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The classic and build now is basically big reserve
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: cycle cards create a ton of card advantage, and while
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: also doing that, they have a ton of disruption, removal, lading,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: sabotage like all of it.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Well, it's pretty annoying.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I agree. Floral tent is probably the best New moona
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: tech out of trial by Frost other than Lost in
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: the Woods. Lost in the.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: Woods Woods is very good.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Our version of cloth I honestly.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: Have not gotten much use out of it, but it.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Is a definite must three of And if your opponent
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: ever gets a big creature that's in grass, get that
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: out of here.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: For three manna yep.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: We used to have to run cloth cocoon, but that
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: has to be rare lost in the wood.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't have the rare slots for it,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: so you can drop the cloth cocoon. Now I have
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: three manna reapings and three Lost in the woods, which
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: is honestly a lot of removal. I'm thinking about switching
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: one or two of those manna reapings to Beauty Sleeps
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: so that I have some cheaper stuff, just because three
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: is kind of hard.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I run three beauty sleep.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: Of course, three beauty Sleep. Okay, do you run any
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: manna reaping?
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: No manner reaping, it's too meta. Wow, if you play Muna.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I think my one call out is try a one
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: off copy of rare Winter outfits and see how you
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: like it.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that's the Rare Winter outfits. See. The only
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: problem with that is that I need to own one first.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: I have of two. If I get extra, I will
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: give you one.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, that could be interesting. Yeah, it helps you keep
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: some card advantage there.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Yep. Look he's going to go build a fendeck.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Now, go build I've already built one, already.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Going to build more annoying.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Kind Well, yeah, if I could be more annoying, that's
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: goal number one.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: But first you have to read us some lower And
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: this is finally the introduction to the world of Altered
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: I actually didn't have to paraphrase as much as I thought,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: because there is a very good introduction here. But I
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: tacked on the description of alteration because I think it's
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: a very good intro into some things that we'll talk
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: about in further episodes.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Do you want me to start an alteration?
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: No, you can, so, I can start at the top,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: all right. During a planetary cataclysm now known as the Confluence,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: a magical storm swept over the world erratically and fatally,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: transforming everything in its path. The storm was triggered when
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: the imaginary world collided with reality and everything within it
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: started to flood into the real world. However, certain secluded
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: human communities managed to survive the apocalypse on the altered
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: world that emerged from it. Answering a mysterious call, these
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: people converged on the peninsula that would become known as
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Asgartha with the aim of building a new shared civilization together.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: It's now been five hundred years after the cataclysm, and
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: his Humanity has finally decided to venture beyond the frontier
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: of its new home. To do this, it has launched
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: the Rediscovery Endeavor, the greatest initiative in its history. Beyond
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: the boundaries of Asgartha, humanity knows the magical phenomenon known
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: as the te Mault continues to alter the world. Until now,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: these ever changing lands have been too hostile for any
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: venturing into them. But humanity can now turn to the exalts,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: pairs of explorers who could use their powers to survive
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: in these unstable environments, Exults have learned to master alteration,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: the power of bringing their imagination to life with reality.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: To do this, they have captured and used Mana, the
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: same energy that feeds the te mault. Though these teams
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: of scouts humanity intends to explore the unknown, yet the
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: exalts mission also has another purpose. They seek the legendary
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: source of the tea malt in hopes that they can
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: permanently stabilize chaos in the world alteration. By using mana,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: the very energy of the te mault, humanity discovers that
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: it could materialize its imagination and memories. Although all human
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: beings are capable of this, certain individual known as alterers,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: have made it their specialty. While most while most things
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: created in this way way ur ephemeral, allocating large amounts
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: of manner too them can make them more resilient, allowing
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: them to more strongly anchored, to move, to be more
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: strongly anchored in reality. There you go, did that? I
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: think that's the best I've done, an I don't.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: That is that is how we have come to the
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: world that we are now. Idolons and other things will
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: kind of be described further as we get into more
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: heroes we've already gone over in n Avenka's backstory. Maybe
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: we'll see another another hero in the future.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we will. I'm sure. And it's time to
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: move into the Patreon question for the week. This one
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: coming from draconis. Thank you again to draconis what kind
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: of new faction would you want to see in the future.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I think I've told mine already. I want to evil
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: faction yep, dark Depth, Skeleton, phantom zombie evil faction.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: That could be cool, for sure.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: I would like more of a sci fi personally, that
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: could be any sci fi really, we get regular people
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: and aliens, blasters and weapons and stuff that nature spaceships.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Not sure I fits the fits the the.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Theme does at all that already I still think that
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: you can throw it in there.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess Axiom is kind of a little bit of.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: That because, uh, the engineering of the rockets.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is it Ada that's on a Yeah, Aida is
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: definitely on some kind of guy thing. And then I
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: was thinking, not of Aida, of what's the other one's name. Uh,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: she's one from Reserve. Uh it's another staple moona card
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: I forgot in Axiom yeah, whatever in Axiom. But yeah,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: there's there's some sci fi elements in Axiom for sure,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: some robots, some flying ships that.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: Axiom is just so bad right now.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta be the one to make it good.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I I honestly don't know if I want
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: a new faction. But I do look forward to some
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: more of the dark elements of the game coming to
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: the surface, because there are some very dark themes within
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: the game. We just haven't really dealt with them yet,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: and I think we may get a taste of that
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: next season. My big thing that I want is I
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: want spiders.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I want spiders in this game.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Technically, the closest is.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: Trace traces bugs.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Trace has a.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: An atomic Yeah, it's like a robot carriage thing.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's all mechanical. I think it's also
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: possible we'll see spiders in Uh.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Just kind of surprised. I've never gone looking, but I
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: assume there was at least one.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Nope, not yet.
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: You think we'll spiders in the a maze?
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: I hope so, I hope so.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: There would be spiders in a maze.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I also know of the possibilities of how Altered
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: approaches the world, and now you've gotten an introduction in
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: how things were kind of smashed together. So I'm excited
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: to see what the new like big name characters are
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: for the set three. I think Scrooge was probably the
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: big call out from Set two, so I'm excited to
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: see what Set three has.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: All Right, don't forget Tea Mault Championships April twelfth, Agent,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, April twelve. This is April twenty six stages.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: I got you, so, thank you Moult. Yeah, Tumult Championship
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: at common Ground Games will be on April twelfth. I
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: think the start time is like two thirty, but it's
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: on the Altered website. You can go sign up at aegis.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: It's April twenty sixth I think they said two Is
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: that right, Dexter.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: Yes, two pm, yep.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: And then I know that Matherel and his store is
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: working on slone.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he said that he got a date
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: nailed down. Did he not say May eighth?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: I might have missed it.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: It would probably be in the Houston Jets.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: That sounds right, but I think he said it's not
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: up yet. Three pm start time, Okay, So May tenth.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Another one in Houston, Texas. Also shout out to our
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• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: am originally from Utah, so I love seeing all these
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: stores that are having tumol events in Utah. And we
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  Speaker 2: have Game Grade it has a couple or not not
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: game Grade sorry, game Haven in Sandy and Will I
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: think Game Grade in Idaho, Idaho. Trying to see if
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: there was one that has come closer to where we're at.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: There's one in Kansas City, but it's the same day
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: as the Common Ground one. I'm I'm trying to to
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: hit up a couple. I really want one to be
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: in Austin, Texas, but I'm not sure if we'll get one. Yeah,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: AGAs is on there, Vegas, Egos, aegis all the names.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So molts are coming up. All of your
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: other online events are going on as usual. To go
• 1:01:49
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• 1:01:53
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• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: too much and I might forget.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: That's events, all right, don't forget starting here shortly. This
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: week's a bad week to do it, but because of
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: recording so late in the week. But Patreon episodes will
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• 1:02:15
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• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: And then if you guys have any ideas for new episodes,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: scream at us. We're always opening new ideas more or
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: less unless it's ortis related that he can kick rocks.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: But oh did I say that wrong? That's how it
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: was on the sheet.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: No, you're gonna pretend like I put that in. Yeah
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I wrote.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: That, Yeah, definitely, Cole Robbie wrote that not looking we didn't.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: With all that being said, go ahead, Cole. Sorry, didn't
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: mean to cut you out.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, give us questions love answering questions. If you
• 1:03:03
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• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: you can submit those on Patreon as well, and then yeah,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: we'll be looking to put the episodes up early.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: So all right, with that being said, we'll see y'all
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: next week later