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S4 E9: School's Out For Summer · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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Fifteen de crazy. You can see your breath out in the lake effect,
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bacon tables and guitar, would treat here? Where's would you have to be?
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And to Ron Elvis in the lay panchow the members that you need to
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know, I sn't you out here? Now? Your family? Where's would
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you have to be? Where would you have be? Welcome into the Nickel
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City Crew. I am your host, Rob Crippen. Please like us on
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of your Buffalo Bills and NFL content again today, and as always, these
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are my Bill's thoughts set out loud. It's abbe so ridiculous? Two three
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was sick? I can let us? Where's would you like to be?
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All right, let's get straight to it. Really excited for tonight's episode.
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The Buffalo Bills are just finishing earlier today, wrapping up mini camp, which
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means that it is summertime, school's out. It's funny because the kids down
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here in North Carolina just went to school and just finished up school. Excuse
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me. Summer break is here, and even the kids in Western New York,
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where my co host is, they're getting ready to wrap up the school
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year. So all the exams are done, all the testing is done,
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school's out for summer. School is out. Joining me tonight my co host
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as always writing Shotgun Adam, Dump truck rupsick. Check them out on Instagram
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and Twitter at Adam up? Are you p c is e y k at
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the crew d T was good? Schools out? Man? What's that?
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I don't even know who sings the sun with school? I mean I don't
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know that. I don't know that I who, but you know everyone everyone
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knows the words. But what's up? Crew and CC We're back, baby?
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You know, nice little, nice little breakdown or mandatory mini camps over?
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You know, now we can gear up for training camp and yeah,
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you know, as we keep gear up a fake gear up, a fake
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gear up, a training camps. When it really gets real, you know,
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that's when it is the actually, I mean the definition of gearing up
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is training camp. Right, So I got a little while before that happens,
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a lot of golf to play, a lot of before then. Yeah,
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absolutely, click clack, we back. You're absolutely right, a lot
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of golf to play the US Open. And I know Tiger was for and
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that's yes, it's yes in Pinehurst. Pinehurst is is a few hours away
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from from Charlotte, and yep, the best of the best in the golfing
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world that are there for the US Open. And Tiger was on the leader
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board for a little bit and then he fell back. But absolutely, I'll
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be I'll be tuning into that. Yes, fast greens, as the golfers
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would say, so you can chip it on the front of the green and
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then it'll roll right off because it's so hot and and the greens are moving
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real quick down here. But we're really excited. Thank you guys for joining
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us tonight. Again. This is our last episode. The Bills are breaking
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for summer, and we will break for summer, so we will be back
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at you guys full swing come training camp when the Bills get to Saint John
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Fisher and Pittsford, New York. Cannot wait for that. And I wanted
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to just chop it up with you tonight DT more but just a kind of
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laid back episode again. School's out man, my kids are out, my
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kings, they're all done with school. My youngest, Quincy, just graduated
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from preschool, so he's getting ready for kindergarten. So I mean, you
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can't tell him shit. He's a big boy now. I mean he's officially
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big boy. He doesn't want to use the little kids forks anymore spoons.
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He wants all big boy stuff. So we're ready. Man, school is
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out, summertime is here, and what a great time it is. DT.
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I wanted to chop up a few things with you because, you know,
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as we approach training camp at the end of next month, it's funny
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because you know, there the storylines are gonna be. You know, we're
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not going to have any problem getting the storylines and have any problem having things
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to talk about when it comes to training camp. But we've already talked about
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the wide receivers at nauseum, but I wanted to kind of break up and
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talk about some of the things that we'll be looking forward to as we get
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to training camp DT. And and one of the position groups obviously outside of
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wide receiver that's gonna get a lot of attention is obviously the quarterback always and
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how Josh Allen elevates and how he is able to lift up this group in
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different things like that and not a obviously not a training camp battle or anything
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like that. We have our QB one. But it was interesting because Josh
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Allen this week DT talked about how he had, you know, kind of
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tweaked his throwing motion, how he had kind of tweaked some of his mechanic,
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so to speak, and he talked about the biometrics guys and how they
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film everything that's going on with his throwing motion. And I thought that it
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was really fascinating because I even heard Seth Capaccio on WGR talking about how he
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thought that he was trying to get back to base level and different things like
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that. I had heard DT Josh talk about the fact that the body shields
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itself from pain, and that is a real thing, and I thought that
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it was something that you know, Sal might have missed on it because I
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thought that it was a situation where he might be actually compensating for the fact
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that he was hurt last year. And I wanted you you know, to
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get some of your thoughts on it because the fact that I don't think that
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his elbow was right, I don't think that his shoulder was necessarily right.
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And I thought that there was a chance that maybe some of this retweaking and
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tweaking of his actual throwing motion comes from the fact that he was compensating for
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some injury last year. And maybe, you know, it's funny because we're
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talking to you know, I'm getting ready to talk about the NBA at the
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end of the show. But it's funny because at the end of the season,
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that's when you find out all the dirty long, right, DT.
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You find out about all the guys that were hurt and they didn't want to
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say anything, and they'll grit through the press conferences and they'll say, oh,
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no, you know, I just got to play through it and different
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things like that. I think there was a legitimate chance to DT that our
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quarterback won number seventeen. Josh Allen was hurt last year. DT. I
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think that I think it's legit to at least explore because hearing some of the
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things about his throwing mechanics and how he's trying to tweak them. I think
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that just the fact that he talked about paying, you know, shielding his
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body from from pain, I think that he was hurt last year. To
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be honest, well, I don't know. I'm not with you on the
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fact of guaranteeing last year being hurt. Definitely the year before with the elbow
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with the UC that was I think worse than anybody thought, and you know,
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they covered it up and he covered it up, and you know,
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talking about not even throwing in practice during the week and then going out and
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taking it easy in the games, and you know had to uncork that one
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and Thanksgiving that you saw a lot that was really the only hose, you
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know, after that elbow injury. We saw that year that that hoes you
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know, getting it down. So it's a little of yes, these guys
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played banged up, and when he got a guy like one seven, where
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he you know, initiates contact and loves contact, he's probably a little more
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banged up than than the rest of the qbs in the league. And that's
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something we're gonna have to deal with the rest of his career here. But
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I also think this is just June talking a month till training camp, and
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you know, the not saying anything is saying something right and what we wanted
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to say something, And I think he was just trying to fill some empty
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space talking about he's working on some you know, mechanics and and whatning biometrics
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and fine tuning and and and then mentioned you know, when when you're hurt,
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the body kind of shields itself, and and so I think maybe he
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might have created some bad habits. But what I took out he was talking
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about, you know, quicker release, like he was saying it got a
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little longer last year, his stride and his release, and that's you know,
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I it's something I eed back. I want to him to have a
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quicker release and a quicker throw. As you know, I'm super critical of
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the offensive line, and they had a good year last year. You know,
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we can hope they have another year. But but this league, he's
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getting tougher and tougher the black guys, and and when when it's breaking down,
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and he might not be as mobile as he as he is now later
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on in his career, he's gonna have to you know, sling it quick.
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So if it's the if it's the mechanics getting the ball out quicker,
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I'm all for it. But I'm not reading all the way into you know,
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he's still had an MVP caliber season. The numbers were there and we
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needed him. He he balled out when we needed him to ball out.
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So was he a little banged up? Probably sure of the year before,
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I think he was actually hurt and thought through it. This year might have
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been a little more just just banged up. But I'm more of the like
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actual mechanics, hit the ball quicker, and you know, fine tune the
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craft. Baby mahomes probably doing the doing the same thing, and you got
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to beat that guy. So so don't ever stop fine tuning in. I
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know you like to be a little bit And I was just going there.
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But if he talked about it, I mean he said in golf, Yeah,
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he talked about a golf swing and tweaking it. You know, let's
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uh, let's hope it doesn't mess anything up too much. And he's still
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the old Josh Allen we love. But I'm not reading too much into it,
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just hoping he has a as quicker release. Well, I think that
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you're absolutely right, because maybe I am reading a little bit into it,
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and because it is that time of season where you know, you're trying to
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read into everything. But like one of the things that stood out to me
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was that he was talking about like how he says that he when he watched
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how he was at Wyoming, he said, like he looks at the tape
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and it's like you gross. He I mean, he even said that in
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this like you that's gross, Like you know, so I can tell that,
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you know, he wasn't satisfied. How about that? You know what
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I mean? Sometimes we don't know all the nuances, and we don't know
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what these guys go through as professional athletes in that respect, and and they're
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always chasing perfection, and they're always chasing, you know, the perfect motion,
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the perfect route run, the perfect defensive pass rush, you know,
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moves and different things like that. I mean, obviously he was not satisfied
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with what he was doing, and I just was wondering if there was anything
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that was lingering. Obviously there was no off season surgery. There's not anything
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for Bill's mafia to worry about in that respect. He's not hurt or anything
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like that in that respect, but I think that he was maybe masking for
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some some of the things that were, you know, maybe lacking last year
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in respects to the fact that he was still off of that UCL injury.
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He was still off of that shoulder injury. So to speak, and maybe
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he was you know, compensating for it, but it'll be interesting to see
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as he goes in. I know he had talked about the biometrics guy that
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was there and they were, you know, filming him in Chubisky and you
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know, they're going through the whole mechanics. And you're absolutely right because that
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tamahawk throw is something that I did notice DT, even though I'm not a
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quarterback guru or anything like that, I did notice the fact that he was
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you know, more of a hacking motion and what the case may be.
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So I'm just wondering if if he's able to get it all cleaned up by
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July, and really, to be honest, if he's able to clean it
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up by week one, because that's that's really all we care about, is
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by one. I think the velocity too helps, you know, the way
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the fast the ball comes out of that dude's hand, like you know,
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it doesn't he takes probably a lot of mechanics out of it, right.
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I mean the fact that just being able to throw as hard as he can,
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it doesn't have to be a perfect mechanic like because he with the with
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the force, he can get it there, but going back to you know,
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looking back in college and like that's just a funny, funny thing,
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right because I'm sure every quarterback, every player in the NFL will look back
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at old tape and say, oh damn, Like what was I doing?
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What was I thinking? I mean, look back at your Facebook status is
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from yeah, yeah, so I mean you got to progress and and I
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believe he's a tough mfor man, and yeah he's gonna there's gonna be other
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injuries that come up in his career that he might not beoble the grit through
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and uh so if if this is something just kind of you know, stepping
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through and getting to what he wants, and that's how we got the UCL
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hurt in the first place. The arm was backed and got ranked and you
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know, so if we can eliminate any of that and just more of a
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like more about like an Aaron Rodgers type of I got you. I mean
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it's interesting, Like I said, there was something that I just took away
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from his press conference the other the day I heard on WGR them talking about
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it, and I was like, well, when he said shield the body
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from pain, I understood that, you know, Like I just thought about
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injuries. I thought about you know, basketball is my first love and we'll
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talk about at the end of the show. That's why I've got the Buffalo
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Brads and I'm repping them tonight. You know, if I tweaked my ankle,
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if it's a big game, I'm gonna you know, I'll tie that
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shoe tighter, and I'm you know what I mean, I'm just gonna get
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through it, you know, I mean, because we got a big game
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and a start point. It gets Albion and those are our rivals, and
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you know, I can't miss this game. We're playing the Purple Legals.
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So I've got to find a way to get through it. And and I
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know what that feels like as an athlete to just grit yourself, you know,
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through something that you're not necessarily feeling your best. So it'll be interesting
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to see now as we transition DT training camp next month coming up at the
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end of July. Saint John Fisher again the official home of Buffalo Bill's training
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camp. It has been for some time DT. What are some of the
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position battles that you are looking at. It's funny because when it was that
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you know that Red Wednesday or whatever they want to call it. When brainda
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Bean made all those changes and got all those veterans out, it was you
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know, obviously a somber day for Bill's Mafia, but it was you know,
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also some it was it was a sense that it was like medicine that
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had to be taken and I and I think that I've switched my mind to
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kind of viewing it that way. Like listen, this was some of the
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stuff that just had to go on. You know, Mitch Morris definitely was
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the biggest surprise of those cuts, and we talked about that on the podcast
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before. But other than that, like everybody else almost just made sense,
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you know what I mean, even down to Saran Neil, you know,
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Trey White, who I love behind me, you know, all those guys,
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even the Safeties, Micah and and Jordan, it all kind of just
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made sense that, like listen, this is the time that we've got to
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get younger, and it seems that that youth movement is going to be in
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full effect as we approach training camp. What are some of the positions that
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you are looking at in respects of the battles, because for me personally on
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the offensive side of the ball, I was, you know, I was
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shocked by the Mitchmores thing, to be honest, and then I was doubly
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shocked the fact that, you know, McGovern is going to be moving over
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to center. And then I heard him, you know, this week during
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Mini caamp and he's talking about how he's so excited and how he's talking about
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his Penn State days, and we know that you've got ties to Penn State,
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and how he missed calling the offensive line. He missed calling and doing
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all the checks that a center would do. What are some of the things
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that you're looking at, Because when it comes to training camp, outside of
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wide receiver, which we've again talked about at nauseum, I don't really know
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where the battles are in respects to like this guy is going to fight for
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this job for this guy against this guy, Like I just don't know exactly
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where they lie. Yeah, I mean, obviously you talk about the receivers,
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you know in nauseum and the biggest question mark from the team. But
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but I mean realistically, I think on the defensive side of the defensive backs,
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you know, from the corners and the safeties they're gonna be that's the
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biggest kind of mix up. We're relying on the steel Douglas to come back
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and be you know, play at the all It wasn't an All Pro last
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year, but played you know, pretty pretty damn good, right, so
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we're relying at him to be an All Pro level. And then Christian Benford,
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you know, had a good year, but his battled injuries. And
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so who who are we filling in in that cornerback room as as it's kind
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of just been a rotating door the past couple of years with with Trey White
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not being on the field and out as much as he has, Who's in
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that cornerback room. Who's filling that depth because that's where you really need the
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depth of the other than Tarren Johnson. It's kind of you know, it
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goes it's got it. It's gonna have to get deep. And then you
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look at the safety side of things as well, the you know, the
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the top two guys of this organization the last seven seven years on the defensive
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side of the football are gone. And you know, you got to say
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Rapp, who came in and had a decent year with us last year,
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has got to come in and play some got Williams, you got you know
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the guys, yep, Mike Edwards and who who's the guy they got from
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Tampa Tampa Bay. What's his name recently? Well, Mike Edwards came from
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what he came from? Yeah, crew, you have to hit us up
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on the on the other guy. We just got a couple of weeks ago
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from Tampa Bay. So there, you know, and yeah, and there's
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you know. So I think that's gonna be the biggest question mark is something
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that definitely safety when we were set on for the last seven years. Now
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it's kind of a emotion around who's who's going to be there? And quarterback
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is for suall Douglas isn't who he was last year. Who's going to step
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up and fill those roles? And so I think defensive backfield is going to
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be my biggest point of contention for this team. I think the offense and
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wide receivers will fall into place, defensive lines kind of set and linebackers went
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healthy, we don't is going to be out there. So defensive backs,
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it's my biggest question mark. Going to be a nice battle. Who's going
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to be the dog. We talked craning camp and we're pumped up for competition.
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Who are the dogs going to be that are going to be playing on
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Sundays in our defensive backfield. Yeah, it's interesting. You know, the
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defensive backfield is interesting because, like you said, you know, there are
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some new names, there are some new faces. You know, Cold Bishop.
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Is he going to get a chance to crack the lineup. He's going
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to get a chance to actually you know start sometimes you know, they always
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talk about how McDermott doesn't like to play younger guys and and and when it
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comes to the defensive backfield, that has kind of been true. You know,
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we've always you know, you know, hired Dean Marlow's and and and
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some of those good Kirk Coleman's to come in and trying to help out that
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type of thing. So it'll be interesting to see if if Cold Bishop can
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kind of crack that lineup, because you know, he's a young guy and
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he's you know, the defense is sometimes complex and McDermott, you know,
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he demands a lot from his defense and we respect that. You know,
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we like the fact that, you know, what do we talk about just
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last week that you know, we're least worried about McDermott and his defense,
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and we're least worried about the fact that he can get things in line.
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So it'll be interesting to see the defensive backfield. I've been looking at DT
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one of the it's not even I don't know if it's a camp battle,
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so to speak, but it's but the defensive line is probably number one for
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me in respects to like, what the fuck is going on outside of bride
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receiver Obviously, wide receiver is number one, and we've talked about it,
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like we said at nauseum, but defensive end, defensive rush, I'm I
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just don't I and can you blame me? I don't know what. Von
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Miller is ready to get back to his form, and I watched those first
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eight games just and I defended him on Twitter. I have been defending him
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on Twitter about like, you know, listen, he had eight sacks by
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week eight. We went in you know, Thanksgiving game. I told you
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I was there with my sister in Detroit. She lives in Detroit. I
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was there and then he goes down. But like prior to that, he
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was worth the investment DT. He's coming off a Super Bowl run. He
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wins the Super Bowl and you know, his second of his career and then
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he's everything that we thought that he was gonna be. I mean, there
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was no like down like, oh man, that was a bad signing.
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Oh Brandon Bean, you know, spent too much money, one h twenty
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million dollars. We know how salary caps work, we know how contracts are,
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you know, constructed. It was a situation where I was like,
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man, this guy is really living up to the billing. After that,
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it's just it has not been there for von Miller, and I'm just wondering
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if we can get back to that guy, because that's like one like if
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von Miller, basically, if von Miller can be what he was when he
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first signed with the Bills, a sack per game. And I know that
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that's a lofty expectations. Obviously, everybody's not gonna have sixteen sacks or seventeen
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sacks a season. But but my point is that if he can have that
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kind of production or close to it, then we're all set. But if
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he's not ready, Greg Russeau is not really ready to step up and take
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that next step, then you've got you know what, Ajf Panessa, You've
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got Kingsley Jonathan, You've got what Casey two Hill, You've got you know,
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Javon Solomon, the rookie. Like there's just a lot of question that,
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like damn if we can't get to the quarterback because McDermott's defense is predicated
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on for pressure. Like that's it, Like that's what Damiico Ryans is running
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right now in Texas. He's you know, down with the with in Houston,
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he's running like listen, we've got you know, Will Anderson, and
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then we just signed to Neil Hunter, and we're gonna get after the quarterback.
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We're going to meet at the quarterback and we're going to play this thing
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and and just and make you guys, you know, throw against us with
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our four pass rush. And I just, I just I'm nervous, Like
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if von Miller doesn't come back, I just it makes me a little bit
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nervous about what's what's ahead. Well, Robbie's got to be better than last
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year, right that was a legit zero zero, So he's got to be
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a little better. I think. I do think Leonard Floyd was one of
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our biggest losses, you know, out of the year. He was very
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productive for us last year, and you know it took out Aaron Rodgers five
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minutes into the season. And you know, I'm not condoning that we you
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know, take out everyone's starting quarterback, but just of the part of the
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game, you know, the exactly. So I think that is a big
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loss. But then you gotta also the draft and develop, like we have
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Rousseau and Faneza and paid them and signed them. You know what. Russeau
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is obviously one got another contract and you know, so they've had their time
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to kind of grow into this league, and now we need to start seeing
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more production from them. Like we're gonna have to rely you know, it's
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the old guys left and new. They're not the new guys anymore. They
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are the veterans of the four years, and so we are gonna have to
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start relying on guys like that. And I think von Miller has got to
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be better than what he was last year. And I don't know, man,
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you see those those squads and in mini camp this week and Baulsion out
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of there. So and he's at least, if anything, he's a good
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teacher, right and and he knows how to win, and he's teaching these
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guys each and everything. The follow they definitely do and they follow you know,
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Solomon, you know, led the n C double A and sacks last
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year, and so there's there's there's bright points that we need to rely on
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to be brighter. Last year we talked about we need Leonard Floyd to have
22:04
you know, eight to ten sacks for us to be successful. And so
22:08
so there's gonna be more ultimately like that as we get, as we get
22:11
closer to training camp, there's gonna be a lot more ultimatums like that.
22:15
We need this to be successful and it's gonna take all fifty three to do
22:18
it this year. That's gonna be the interesting part about it. And White
22:22
training Camp is gonna be so fun to watch to see who earns it.
22:23
But on the interior wise, you're you're gonna also have to hope for more
22:27
pressure at alber Who's who was a menace you know last year. D Kwon
22:32
Jones was a menace and is back healthy and and those guys really got to
22:36
bring the pressure from the middle as well to take some pressure off these guys
22:40
that are on the outside where you can't always have it from the outside.
22:42
You're gonna need some middle pressure too, so and we didn't we didn't talk
22:45
about our boy the wrestler gable table. We'll see, it'll be you know,
22:52
it'll be the best thirty for thirty that ever is. It turns in
22:56
to be you know, somebody wild. But Aaron Donald vibe right, I'm
23:07
not saying an I'm not saying he's Aaron Donald. But House ship House can
23:14
do a standing back clip to three hundred pounds. I mean, yeah,
23:17
you know, we'll we'll see. But there. You know, they'll take
23:19
some chances on some athleticism in the middle too to help that edge not have
23:23
as much you know, pressure on themselves to get pressure, if you will,
23:26
a lot of pressure talk there. But we need more from everybody.
23:30
Leonard Floyd was big, he's he's not there anymore. We need more from
23:33
the guys we draft and developed with that and that's a and Rousseau. And
23:37
if von Miller is as half of what he was last year, I think
23:40
it'll be enough to kind of filtering that rotation and and be good enough up
23:45
front. Absolutely, I like that. I like where your head is that
23:48
on that you know, it'll be interesting to look at because like I said,
23:52
you know, I just I just know that some people that dog von
23:56
Miller on Twitter. And then that's where, like, like I said,
23:57
that's where I have a lot of my Internet action with Bill's Mafia. What
24:00
Nicol City Crew is on Twitter. Now, you know, they like to
24:03
dog them, and they like to pretend that, you know, it was
24:06
a bad investment, and and you know, they talk about his personal life,
24:08
which we already have talked about here here on Nicol City Crew that we
24:11
don't we don't. We don't condone that because if we want to start talking,
24:15
we can really start talking, and then we would alienate a whole bunch
24:18
of people. So listen, I don't care about his personal life. As
24:21
long as he's not, you know, murdering anybody or doing anything crazy in
24:25
that respect, then I just I kind of stay out of that type of
24:27
thing. When it comes to the on field production, he was worth every
24:30
penny of the investment up to that Detroit game. He really was. And
24:34
I'm hoping that he can get back to that form because it would obviously help
24:37
the past rush for the defense. Now, as we continue and as we
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25:34
it's funny because when you talk about defensive end, then I want to
25:38
obviously talk about wide receiver, but if I think about another group, it's
25:42
got to be tied end. Because of the fact that this tulta concaid guy.
25:47
DT is just he's the toast of the town and everything he does is
25:52
just perfect and boy, he's going to have to be that. I mean,
25:56
like dude, Like if there was ever like a like, dude,
26:00
I need you to be that guy. It's really Dalton Kincaid, Like Stephan
26:04
Diggs gone, Gabe Davis gone. You know what do we talk about last
26:10
week? DT was like one hundred and fifty targets or something like that.
26:12
Like we talked about the touchdowns, We talked about everything that we're missing from
26:17
Dalton and gay excuse me, from Stefan Diggs's exit. I mean like I
26:21
we kind of need we kind of need Kinkaid to be like we kind of
26:26
needed to be that motherfucker, like if he's supposed to be Kelsey, like
26:29
we kind of need him to be that. Like it's it's almost nowhere to
26:33
hide for him and I and I hate putting that type of pressure on a
26:36
second in your player, DT, but it's almost like anything that we thought
26:40
that you were going to be heading out of the draft, we need you
26:42
to be if you if you can be the big slot, if you can
26:45
be I heard about security blank blankets today. They were talking about Brian Baldinger,
26:51
who you know Jeremy. I love Jeremy White on WGR and he was
26:53
talking about how, like Brian Baldinger did the breakdown of like listen, he
26:57
showed like five diffferent players were like, listen, Josh is under duress,
27:03
Where does he go? He's going to Stephan Diggs because he feels comfortable.
27:07
If it's not going to be Stephan Diggs, then somebody's got to step up
27:10
into that role. And I heard a bunch of people say, well,
27:11
it's going to be Kincaid or it's going to be Shakir. We kind of
27:15
we kind of need Dalton de kay uh Kincaid excuse me to be that motherfucker.
27:19
We need him to be that dude, like it's almost nowhere to hide
27:23
for him. And I again, I hate putting that kind of pressure on
27:26
the second your player, but we we really kind of need him. That's
27:30
why, that's what happens when you let him. That's why we brought him
27:34
in. That's why he's here. And you know has had that supreme athletic
27:38
ability in college and showed spurts last year. I mean, Rob, the
27:41
guy had seventy three catches last year. You're right, you're right. If
27:47
it wasn't if it wasn't for If it wasn't for Sam Laporta, we would
27:51
be a static with his growth. It's the fact that we had. You
27:53
know, there was another guy in Detroit that caught more balls and caught more
27:56
touchdowns and he was on your fantasy team. But the yeah, he had
28:03
seventy three catches for us. I mean, that's that's we need an uptake
28:07
we need and it better at least had that, you know coming up this
28:11
year and you know, more comfortable and more athletic and and it's all the
28:15
makings of being that great pass catcher that we need him to be. And
28:18
there's a lot of upside in that room as well. I mean, Dawson
28:22
Knox had had good, good games for us and then was hurt. Basically
28:26
all last year we didn't see much from him and scored the final touchdown to
28:30
get us into the to get us into the you know, division title last
28:33
year. So you know, and even I love Quintin Morris as well,
28:37
Like when he's on the field, he never is but what he is,
28:38
it seems like he's always kept in a touchdown. And Trey mc kitty is
28:42
you know, a huge prospect coming out that is never had a downside,
28:45
right, so a lot of upside in that in that tight end room.
28:48
And I think that's just gonna help out and k get better and become that
28:52
guy. And it's like you said, it's not a secret. You know,
28:55
it's not like something that this dude's gonna find out in the middle of
28:57
the season, like, oh shit, I got to be the guy that
29:00
Josh is coming to Like, it's pretty clear and apparent that he does have
29:04
to. So I hope the team is working on that, and he's working
29:07
on that and knows that and answers the bell. I mean, at the
29:11
end of the day, Rob, what more of a This is a dream,
29:15
right, You get called into the big leagues, you get called into
29:18
the to the NFL, like to be a star, and this is your
29:22
opportunity to do that. So the dreams can come true for this kid.
29:26
I don't think it's something he can't handle. Seventy three catches last year,
29:30
come in and make it happen this year. Yeah, I mean, it's
29:33
just kind of a you know, heavy is the crown, you know what
29:36
I mean? Like, you know, you get all those passes you catch
29:38
on that what was the USC caught nineteen balls or something like that, and
29:42
then the pre draft we're talking about that, you know, I don't.
29:45
I just don't know where, you know. Brian Baldinger brought up a great
29:48
point, and I love the topic this morning. Again, we're doing this
29:52
live and we'll obviously release this tomorrow for the rest of the audience. But
29:56
like like they talked about it on Twitter, like Brian Baldegger, and I
30:00
watched it, like I took the time this morning when I was working to
30:03
like watch what this breakdown was, and like he and obviously you can isolate
30:08
plays and you can make it. You can paint any pitch you want to
30:11
paint. But the point of it, the overall arching point of Brian baldering
30:14
this point was that when when the chips are down and Josh has a free
30:18
rusher coming in his face, or the pocket breaks down, what if the
30:22
case may be, he looked to his security blanket. He looked to somewhere
30:26
where he could trust. And I think the trust is the biggest word,
30:30
because Keon Coleman's a rookie, Curtis Samuel's never caught a pass from Josh Allen.
30:36
You know, we've got all these Plethoro of other wide receivers who have
30:38
never caught a regular season pass from Josh Allen. I don't know about Shorter,
30:41
he never did in the preseas or anything not like that. But like
30:45
you've got a lot of fresh faces in the receiving room, whether it be
30:49
wide receiver or tight end. Josh is gonna go to where he trusts.
30:53
I mean, you look, even look at Shakiir. Shakira did not get
30:56
targets from Josh his first year for a long time, like he would not.
31:02
Josh wouldn't throw to him at all. And because of that, is
31:04
that all based on trust? Isn't all based on Shakir not knowing what the
31:07
fuck he was doing? Like I don't know if that's the case or not.
31:11
I'm not I don't go to work with them. So all I can
31:12
do is pontificate. All I can do is assume. And I and what
31:17
I what I drew from the Brian Baldinger piece was that Josh, when the
31:21
chips are down, he's gonna go to where he feels comfortable. Because I
31:25
need these yards. I need these seven yards, I need these thirteen yards.
31:29
It's third down and nine I need this eleven yards. He's gonna go
31:33
where he feels comfortable. Can can k be that kind of target for Josh
31:37
Allen is gonna be something that we're all gonna have to watch. Shout out
31:41
Nickel City Crew builds Mafia. Almost a thousand DT watching us on our last
31:47
night before training camp. We appreciate all of you, man, I mean
31:49
salute to you guys. Again. We've got big plans for Nickel City Crew
31:53
coming up. Again. We will be back at the end of July when
31:56
training camp starts. I promised Nickel City Crew only you guys one time.
32:00
I confessed last week about you know, my prediction for the season. I
32:04
don't think it's twelve and five like DT does. I think it's more like
32:07
ten and seven. But I've already confessed it, Like I have nothing else
32:10
to confess to you guys. We really really appreciate you guys. We do
32:14
it for you, guys. This is the whole reason that we do the
32:15
podcast is to interact with the fans. We are so happy. Almost a
32:20
thousand people DT watching on all platforms right now. DT our last episode before
32:24
training camp schools out for some you know the song that I'm talking about DT.
32:30
I don't know. Somebody hit us up on the comments, so I
32:32
don't know who the hell sings that song. But that's like a classic song.
32:37
I play it for my kings every single year on the last day of
32:38
school, just to kind of commemorate and to celebrate that they're out of school.
32:43
DT. As we wrap up tonight, it's funny because we talked about
32:46
Josh Allen, We talked about the throwing motion, we talked about some of
32:50
the camp battles, the last battle that I wanted to talk about, and
32:54
it's not even the battle because this guy's going to be the guy. But
32:58
I am. I think that I have. I've gotten my fill of hearing
33:02
that James Cook, your boy Jimmy Cooks is dropping fucking balls. I think
33:09
that I have heard the last that I need to hear. They say that
33:13
he dropped him in mini camp. Now excuse me, O TA, they
33:16
said that he dropped him in mini camp as well. I don't want to
33:20
hear about it anymore in respects to the fact that like this dude dropped like
33:25
the problem with the problem with your boy Jimmy's Cook, Jimmy Cooks, is
33:29
that he dropped balls like that were touchdowns, Like he dropped balls that were
33:34
like like this is surefire, Like you catch the ball, you're going up
33:37
the sideline and it's a touchdown, or he was in the end zone for
33:39
one of them that he dropped. Listen, I like him. I know
33:44
that running backs are running backs. I know that they're dispensable, whatever the
33:46
case may be. All of his defenders will tell me that he was fourth
33:50
in the in the league in rushing last year, and obviously that's a great
33:52
you know, but like running is not the same as always it was.
33:58
You know, like the running back position is not the same that it always
34:00
was. I need you to do more than just run, Like I need
34:02
you to like be a threat out of the backfield. What is up with
34:06
the yips? Can? Can somebody from Nicol City Crew Builds Mafia get this
34:10
dude a jugs machine for he's next thirty to forty five days, Like I
34:15
need somebody to mail him a drugs machine. Like I really am sicking you
34:19
dropped the ball because again, everything the impetus for all of this again is
34:23
we let steph go. So because we let stuff go, the rest of
34:27
you have to step up. Huh. How about that we let Steph go.
34:31
The rest of you have to step up. I can't have you dropping
34:34
balls. Man. I'm sorry. I know that it's minichamp. I know
34:37
that it's OTAs. I know that none of the shit even matters. I
34:40
really do need you to stop. Like I just heard it the other day.
34:45
Man, he dropped a couple balls in mini camp. I know you're
34:47
already shaking your head and it doesn't matter, and he'll do it in the
34:52
games. But now he's given me enough leeway where I'm like, well,
34:55
I don't know if he's gonna do it in the games because I watched games
34:58
and he didn't do the shit. So like what the judges judge machine,
35:05
judge judge seen jugs machine. You know, next five weeks, a thousand
35:08
a day, whatever a thousand you got, you got Ty Johnson coming in
35:14
with another and Ray Davis, guys that are gonna push you, you know,
35:17
to be better. I'm not saying he's getting bench from these dudes by
35:21
any means, but that he could. You know, if they come in
35:23
and they are no, I'm not trying to kill drop and keeps fumbling.
35:30
You know that the bench is there. But another little little back door thing
35:36
that that may help older brother Delvin still free agent in but just you know
35:46
what, when your big brothers there, you know, getting getting in your
35:50
ass, that might that might change it a little bit. You know,
35:52
you get your ass kicked, right, you ain't. You ain't dropping in
35:55
front of big brother. You know, Nate. Nate's playing better when Bobby's
35:59
around, you know that. And Quincy tried to do everything that both of
36:02
them do. Yeah, right, So that's if you want to you want
36:07
to answer and sign. Oh my god, I just don't want him dropping
36:12
balls in key situations because I can remember a lot of times last year where
36:15
it was a big, big, big situation and he was dropping balls.
36:19
Like I said, I remember, you know, some some passes up the
36:22
sideline. I remember one in the end zone and like it was like a
36:24
suref touchdown. Billy was like, I'm like, godly, I just don't
36:30
I don't want to hear about it. I've heard about Tyler bass and he's
36:32
shitty throughout O t A's and Minie camp, and he's missing kicks and like
36:37
you know, obviously ideally we wanted to be going for touchdowns and we don't
36:40
even want to care about those types of guys you know, and have them
36:44
be a factor in the game, so to speak. But like James Cook
36:46
is different, Like he's the starting running back on the team, and if
36:50
there's a checkdown situation or in the situation where you leak him out the back
36:53
field of a wheel route, like I just I just need, I need
36:58
you to do your job, man, Like I don't. I don't want
37:00
to hear about all man it was close and stuff like that. I think,
37:04
I guess the overall point is, I think the margin of error on
37:07
the offensive side of the football DT is going to be smaller. It's going
37:10
to be almost razor and not not no disrespect to this twenty four you know
37:16
Bills team, Like I don't know what they're going to be yet, but
37:19
I know for the last four years with Stefan Diggs and the crew and with
37:22
Josh Allen, you know, we were blowing teams out. You just gave
37:25
the stats out DT a couple of weeks ago. You just gave out the
37:29
stats of how many blowouts and different things like that that we've had on this
37:32
team. I just I think that the margin of error is going to be
37:37
smaller, and I want to make sure that we're crossing every t and dotting
37:40
every eye. And I can't have my running back that's open on a wheel
37:45
rout dropping the ball. And then now we're in second and fourteen. You
37:47
know what I mean, Like, I just I just can't. I can't
37:50
have it. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, And I know I'm being harsh
37:52
because it's you know, many camping OTA's, but I'm but yeah, I
37:57
need him to catch the dail ball. I'm sorry. I really do.
38:00
Nic City Crew bulletiboard materials. I love it. Oh my god, I
38:09
love it. As we wrap up tonight, I appreciate you your time,
38:13
DT. It's funny because I had said last week that I hope that the
38:16
NHL Final the finals. I hope that the NBA Finals they go all seven
38:22
games, overtime every game. Because I'm not really a big baseball guy.
38:25
I want to be able to enjoy the sports, competitive sports. As we
38:30
wind down this calendar year heading into summer, DT, I had to get
38:34
something off my chest. You see me tonight, I'm in my Buffalo braves.
38:37
So again, for those of you the younger viewers, Nickel City Crew,
38:40
Nickel again, Bill's Maffi that don't know. The Buffalo Braves are the
38:45
Los Angeles Clippers. We started that entire thing. They went to San Diego,
38:49
then they went to La So listen, you can claim Kawhi Leonard if
38:52
you want, is injured ass you can claim. You can claim Paul George,
38:55
you can claim all those guys, James Harden, who also is annoying.
39:00
You can claim all those guys. Those are all Buffalo Braves. Listen,
39:04
DT, I watched the NBA Finals last night, and I think I
39:06
talked to you AFT show. You said that you had tuned in as well.
39:09
This guy Luka Doncic. I had to end the show on this because
39:13
it just it encapsulates to me. I know, it's a different sport.
39:17
And I'll say that off gate Luka Doncic watching him and seeing how maddening he
39:25
is to watch play basketball because basketball is my first love. Like DT,
39:29
I told you that, like I, basketball is where I started, that
39:31
that is my first love. Watching a guy like Luka Doncic's play makes me
39:37
more appreciative of a guy like Stefan Diggs. And regardless of the tweets and
39:42
regardless of all the controversy and Oh my gosh, and he's doing the same
39:45
thing he did in Minnesota. I can bring anything back to Stefan Diggs.
39:50
One thing you couldn't say was that he didn't try. One thing that you
39:52
couldn't say was that he didn't have passion. One thing that you couldn't say
39:55
was that he didn't want to fucking win. When I watched Luka Doncich last
40:00
night DT, I almost wanted to throw the controller at my screen because of
40:06
the fact that this guy begs for calls. Then if he doesn't get the
40:10
call, he is not running back on defense. And then his team literally
40:15
came down from twenty one and lost the game in part, in large part
40:21
because of the fact that he was just a baby on the court and such
40:24
a Prima Donna. You want to talk about Prima Donna's bills, Mafia,
40:28
you want to talk about, you know, being self centered nicol City Crew.
40:31
Stefan Diggs was not that. Look at this guy, Luka Doncics DT,
40:36
he is. He makes my basketball skin crawl, Like literally watching him
40:42
play basketball is one of the It's one of the least enjoyable things I've ever
40:45
had to do. Man. I mean, last night was on full display.
40:50
You got the whole Luka Doncic experience, and it was it was horrible,
40:52
man, from start to finish, it was horrible. This is a
40:57
tough light. I mean, this is the biggest light from Luca. I
40:59
like, so I'm on the like Luca, but last this series has not
41:05
been good for him, and this series has been the most eyes on him,
41:08
right, So it's a tough look for him and he's gonna have to
41:12
learn from this. I mean, he's definitely gonna have to learn from this.
41:15
You're playing a team that you're out matched. You know, you definitely
41:17
are out matched. The Celtics are better than the mass straight up, just
41:20
man and man five on five, they're a better team. So you have
41:22
to be there for everything, and he is. He's getting the points and
41:27
Kyrie literally couldn't have played better. But then it's just that then it kind
41:30
of falls off after them, so you can't meet. You know, when
41:34
they were trying to pull they were trying to pull away. They were up
41:37
fifteen in the first half and there was two possessions in a row. You
41:39
know, he falls down, is crying for a call, and it's four
41:43
on five on the other side and that just game plan on the Celtics,
41:46
Like the Celtics are like, all right, this dude's gonna do this.
41:49
So when he does this run and we got a five on four every single
41:52
time. So I yeah, it's a tough look for him. I do
41:55
like him. I think he's he's still on the younger age. I'm not
41:59
making it us this for him, but he's got he's got to learn from
42:01
this. This is tough, you know, with a lot of people looking
42:05
up to him, a lot of kids looking up to him, and the
42:07
problem that and then he's doing like that. I have dt because they they've
42:15
been begging him. If it's cost him a ring and he doesn't learn from
42:20
it, then he ain't. Then he ain't. What if Colin Coward today
42:23
called him a little better come out of Anthony? That is That's perfect.
42:30
That's why Colin is one of the greatest listen man, this guy is selfish.
42:34
To me, he's selfish. I watched play after play. They put
42:37
it on Twitter. They got a little compilation of just him. Okay,
42:42
he'll get beat on. He'll get beat on defense. First of all,
42:45
he's been like the matador. He's he's getting beat on defense. And then
42:49
and then the score. And then when he comes down on offense, he
42:52
will try to bait call the refs and if he doesn't get the call.
42:57
I watched him on three different occasions fall to the and then bitch as he's
43:02
jogging back and Tatum's going to junk the damn the ball to jam the ball
43:07
in, and I'm like, yo, man, I was yelling at the
43:09
TV last night, like, get back on defense. I coach Mike Kings
43:14
in basketball like I would never like like Nate would not even have an ass
43:19
he doesn't have a booty. I would chew all of the rest of the
43:22
booty that he doesn't. I would chew it all out if he did not
43:25
get back on defense after making a mistake, get back like that's basketball,
43:30
one on one, that's like fundamental stuff. So it just sometimes it just
43:34
rubs me the wrong way. When you know, I hear how people talk
43:36
about Stefan Diggs. I hear about people talk about how, oh, well
43:39
he was a diva and this, and then I'm like, man, you
43:42
can't question his effort. You can't question how much he cared. You can't
43:45
question the fact that he wanted the team to win. And when I watch
43:49
a guy like Luca, it's like literally it's it's it's like the opposite.
43:52
It couldn't be more opposite. Like this guy is selfish, and I just
43:57
I feel bad for, you know, the dull Smavericks in respects to the
44:00
fact that the other guys, because they had an opportunity with poor zingis out
44:05
to win this series. And Luca, man, he just he shitted away
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last night. He was That's the ultra. That's the most selfish performance I've
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ever seen in my life in respects to basketball of a guy that like literally
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does not give a ship. He just wants the refs to know that he's
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mad. And like, man, that is not what this is about.
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You are in the NBA finals, like you are at the last stage,
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Like, this is not what this is about. Man. I had to
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let it off my chest again that Nicol saidy Krewbill's moufi. That's why I
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wore my my Buffalo Brave stuff today because I had to get that off my
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chest. DT. Like, I know you said your Luca guy. I
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can't even know that was because I'm not. I can't anything I like Luca.
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I can't I did not like what I saw last night. I seen
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the series. Oh my god, he's the worst. He makes my basketball
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skin crawl. Listen, DT, I appreciate your time tonight. Man.
44:59
I said we were gonna for like thirty minutes, and as always, we
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just always just hit you with a nice, big episode. Over eleven hundred
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people watching DT on all platforms, I mean, Nickel City Crew. We
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love you, man, we love y'all. Man, Listen, we will
45:13
be back. Yeah, I know. Isn't that crazy? Man, an
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episode that we said we were barely gonna do anytime on over eleven hundred people
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watching. Man, love it, Nicol City Crew from the start, and
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keep growing with us. That thousand turns to two, that two is gonna
45:28
turn to ten and one hundred. Let's go go energy. I like that.
45:34
I like that energy. Yes, ride with us. Listen again.
45:37
We've got big things planned up for this coming season. Again. We will
45:40
be back in the end of July for training camp. We've got a lot
45:45
planned. Man. I'm working on on location at OL's and trying to work
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on that for live shows for next season. I'm working on guests, I'm
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working on former Bills players, I'm working on everything. Nickel City crew.
45:58
Just know that your boy Rob is definitely in the trenches working. We've got
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a lot planned for this year. We've got giveaways coming up this year,
46:05
a lot of stuff. We stole some stuff from from k Gun Report.
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We love those guys over there at the k Gun Report. We're definitely gonna
46:10
do some giveaways, some jersey giveaways, different things like that. So we
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are excited for I'm season four. We are in the middle of season four.
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Well actually we're in the beginning of season four and we're just getting started.
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But we cannot wait for training camp to start again. DT and I
46:23
will take a break with the rest of the Buffalo Bills and administration as we
46:28
approach training camp in Saint John Fisher. We will be back at you guys
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full force when training camp starts, and then it's just literally DT, it's
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foot on gas pedal all the way through whenever this thing ends. Yeah,
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I'm gonna I'm gonna use these five weeks to to you know, decompress myself,
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not think much about it, and then I'll ramp up when we ramp
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up. So golf, I ain't manage your golf of beers. I ain't
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mad at you man, Listen out there, spread love not hate. These
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were my bills, thoughts, set out loud, hit them with the God
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Bills over eleven hundred and fifty DT. I mean, come on, Nickel
47:07
City Crew, we love y'all, Man, Big Ben, Noah, Robbie,
47:13
Josh Kluel. I don't want to name everybody by name. Man.
47:15
We love y'all, the ogs, we love y'all and anybody new to the
47:20
Nickel City Crew. Man, check us out. We will be live every
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single Thursday. I mean, how at us man? How let the crew
47:27
click clack? We got d love me go Mills. I love it,
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I love it, I love it. I love it.