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Bullied Nostalgia: Ewoks, Caravan of Courage & The Battle for Endor · Bullied Nostalgia

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the movie review. Or should I say movies review?
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My goodness. As you no don't have seen before
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clicking on this episode from the thumbnail, we watched both
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80s Ewok movies. How do you guys want to do this?
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Do you want to talk about them separately and then together?
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I think it makes the most sense to start with the first one, go
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into the second one, because then we're following the plot.
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Then we can talk about the two of them contrasted.
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Yeah. OK, chance.
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Let's start with 1984's Caravan of Courage.
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What was this movie about? A.
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Nuclear family of four crash land.
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On the planet of Endor family made-up of and These are real
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names, by the way, German, Katarina, Mace and Sindal.
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I never picked up on German, that's awesome.
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Yeah, German, it's really good. Too bad you only hear him talk 3
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times. Yeah.
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Mason Sindal The children get separated from their parents,
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their parents are captured and then it's up to the kids with
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their friends the Ewoks, to go and save their parents on a
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caravan of courage. What's an Ewok?
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I'm not explaining that an. Ugly looking.
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Teddy bear What's a caravan? An earth horse that has a cool
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Fort on it. What's a German?
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Hermit the frogs weird cousin. Yeah, so I'm sure we're speaking
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to our audience here, but in the third Star Wars movie,
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retroactively, Episode 6, George Lucas introduced a war on a
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forest planet with the Empire, which was supposed to be the
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Wookies initially. But then what if toy sales?
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But then George Lucas found out that the only way to make money
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in Star Wars is to have a little creature.
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Yeah, they swapped for the Ewoks, which are little 3 foot
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bears. Teddy bear versions of Wookies.
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Yeah. And of course, they were the hot
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merchandising item. In the years following Return of
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the Jedi, we would see two made for TV movies based on the Ewoks
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in 1984 and 1985. Did George Lucas write these?
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It says in the credits that he wrote.
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You want to tell me that he wrote these?
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Well, I think they probably gave him more credit in the credits
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so that it would give more credence to them, but I don't
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know how handsome he actually was.
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Well, let's not pretend like George Lucas is a superhero
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writing. I don't think he knows.
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Why Star Wars is popular? He's been quoted on saying that
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Star Wars is a movie for little boys and no one else.
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Yeah, that's kind of what was happening here, although maybe
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also baiting the little girl audience with Cyndal being
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really cute. Yeah.
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This movie is not within the Star Wars lore in any world.
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Like somebody watched 20 seconds of Star Wars and they're like,
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OK, let's make a movie of this. And that's what I feel like this
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is this. Feels like every fantasy movie
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ever. They've got this band of heroes
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and they're walking along and then and there's.
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Lots of magic. Gifted magical items and there's
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all these traps along the way that Mace falls for every single
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one of them and there's an. Earth, horse.
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There's always an Earth. Yeah, there are ferrets.
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There's crows. I was.
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Horse so mad about that. That's just a llama, and the
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next, that's just a horse. That's a rabbit.
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I kept getting more and more mad.
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Why have Jim Henson Company work on your movie if they're not
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going to do a single thing? They made.
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The Ewoks, Well, did they even? Because those are costumes.
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They're hyperstatic. Nothing moves on those things
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and it's so creepy. Did Jim Henson Company make this
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movie? Well, someone's looking that up.
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I did want to say that the Ewok costumes in this movie, I don't
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know how similar they are to turn to the Jedi costumes.
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For some reason, because of the production value, it felt like
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Halloween costumes. Funny you should say that
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because in grade four or five I was dressing up for Halloween
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and we went to the store and they had a Wicket mask.
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It was like real fur and everything.
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Then we bought a big fur trench coat and I cut that up and and
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sewed it into a full body Ewok costume.
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I tell you, John, its quality was in line with the costumes of
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this movie. Yeah, I'm not surprised.
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Whoa, that wasn't a diss. That was me talking about how
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good my sewing skills are. I don't think that this movie
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was made by Jim Henson. I don't see the Jim Henson
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flair. This was a made for TV movie so
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budgets will have to be considered.
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I always assumed that they recycled some of the costumes
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from Return of the Jedi, but who's to say?
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It just didn't seem to fit. They just felt a lot looser on
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the actors and actresses bodies. I think also it's just hard.
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They're marble eyes that just don't move.
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They're bad. OK, so now we're getting into
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other stuff. What I was going to say about
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the costumes is I think it's the hardest with the ones that have
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the shortest fur. One of Wicked's brothers has
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really short fur, so it looks like a carpet.
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Then it looks really frumpy. It looks like it's a coat or
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something that he's wearing and not his furry body.
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But your statement, John, notoriously, George Lucas can't
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leave these movies alone. So for people.
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Who? Yes, for people who do not know,
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these movies came out in the 70s and 80s.
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And then in the 90s, once computer graphics were a thing,
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George Lucas went back and he edited these movies with
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computer graphics and the fanboys will say couldn't create
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his vision when it was first created.
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So now that technology has caught up, now it more closely
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resembles what he had imagined all those years ago.
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Well that's true. The downside of it is it didn't
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happen just once. He keeps going back to the table
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and re editing it over and over again.
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So one of the edits he made was he gave that he walks eyelids
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and that's awful. Does it look bad?
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I mean, they already look bad, so it's hard to say what's the
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lesser of two evils. They already stare through your
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soul. And I made the point of
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vocalizing that they don't really have working mouths
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either. They won't have working tongues.
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So their tongues move inside their mouths, but their mouths
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always being open, they're like. Slack jaws?
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Yeah. It's so bad, it's terrible.
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Did anyone else have a hard time distinct machine?
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He walks from each other, just the lady one, the magical one,
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not all the rest kind of look at the same.
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It was Wicket and the other ones.
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So Wicket is of course played by Warwick Davis in the 80s.
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He was the most famous little person.
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He would obviously be in this movie.
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He'd be in movies like Willow. He is an integral part of the
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Star Wars universe. I always thought about how
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interesting that was that George Lucas made so much work specific
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to little people. Right?
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Like R2D2 in the old movies, there was a little person in
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that robot driving it. The jaw was in the first Star
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Wars movie. We're all, of course, little
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people. Ewoks, I'm not sure.
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You just seem to have a fascination with little
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creatures. But I was able to differentiate
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all of the Ewoks. But.
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Most of them didn't add any value or anything.
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Yeah, most of them. What?
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The one guy got earmuffs as his magical item and one guy.
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Got to turn a rock into a lizard.
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He. Didn't even do that.
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That was Mace's gift. Oh, right.
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OK. No Mace on the other hand, that
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guy is unforgettable. He is the world absolute worst.
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To clarify, Mace is the older human brother.
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He's main character in the movie.
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So they get given magical artifacts and then he throws his
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rock away. Instantly.
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He sees all the magical artifacts and he learns A
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valuable lesson and then he gets his rock back and he's like
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stupid rock and he tries to throw it away again.
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I don't understand. And don't even know what to say
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about Mace. It's like the only way they
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could think of to introduce a dangerous object.
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Was to have. Touch it, touch it, he always.
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Touches it with his hands. Too, and then too about that
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actor. If I was his age in 1984, Star
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Wars is the most amazing thing on earth.
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I get a shot to be in Star Wars. I see my costume.
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He looks like he's right out of Star Wars.
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He's a really cool Star Wars aesthetic.
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I would be hyped. And then you find out that
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you're written as the single worst character ever.
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And. To be fair, he had no way of
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knowing that that lake wouldn't try to drown.
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Him I would stop touching things, period.
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So there's this lake that when you touch it, it teleports you
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under the lake and you can't escape.
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Unless you have a stick. Unless.
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Got a stick? What?
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A bad movie? Why is there magic?
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What do you mean? Why is there magic?
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Why is there magic in this movie?
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I got upset about that and then dad was like, Oh well, Star Wars
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has witches in it. That's clearly not the same
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thing. This.
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They just do whatever they want whenever they want.
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Yeah, so we know all kinds of things about the Star Wars
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universe. We know that the Force is
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interpreted differently, species to species, planet to planet.
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So this sect of Force users have become the Jedi.
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Do you think that force users can teleport people under lakes
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and turn rocks into iguanas? That iguana was just in the rock
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for a long time. Do you think that that's.
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Something that the force can do. You don't know everything the
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Force can do. They're just Disney.
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They're still figuring it out. Yeah.
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This movie is terrible, don't get me wrong, but the Ewoks
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practicing their forms of, for lack of a better term,
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witchcraft I think was always something that was accepted
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because they are from this primitive species that when they
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CC-3PO they worship him as a God.
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They see him levitate due to the Force, but they start
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worshipping him and there's always this undertone, even in
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Return of the Jedi, that they believe in the supernatural.
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To have items that are part of that, to have a wizard in the
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group, does make sense. Their delivery on magic is
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absolutely terrible and dumb, but that is just tying it back
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to the fantasy roots. This is just Lord of the Rings.
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They're on their way trying to gather together a Bard and a
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wizard and a warrior barbarian. They're trying to get all these
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different people together on their party to go fight a giant.
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This is AD and D campaign. It's just really poorly written
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and most of them don't speak English, which makes it.
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Oh my goodness. Yeah, my favorite part of this
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movie is when the narrator shows up and goes wicked and his
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brothers ventured into the forest to look for more.
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I forgot this movie had a narrator instead of a crawl.
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It's so upset, how annoying. That is you.
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Could understand a scene where the Ewoks don't talk and you'd
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be like OK that was good. And then the narrator would show
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be like, this is what you just watched happen.
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I think this was maybe the hardest part about this movie,
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watching these two human children try to explain to Ewok.
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And that's not. How you would explain anything?
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You can't just say Starship 100 times and hope they understand
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what that means. They've never seen a Starship.
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Food. Eat, eat.
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Eat, eat, eat. You are going to.
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Point at your mouth. You're just going to say the
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word eat, eat. You're just going to say the
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word eat 800 times. And I hope they understand
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that's not a Starship. That's a horse.
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We watch the kids trying to communicate to the Ewoks and the
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Ewoks to the kids. As the viewer, we already know
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what both sides are trying to communicate, so it's just a
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frustrating watching two people understand each other.
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It is a snore fest. It's just painful.
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It's like infuriating though. Not only is it boring, finish
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the scene. It's not that hard.
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Every scene takes five times longer because we have to wait
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for the characters to figure it out.
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Yeah, it's so frustrating. Well, if they had a narrator.
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Oh my gosh. Well, to be fair to this movie,
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80% of the way in, when nothing has happened for most of it and
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suddenly everything starts happening, the narrator's gone.
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I'm watching right now show called Tchaikovsky's Primal.
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Very good but there is no English in that show.
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It's about a caveman and a dinosaur as they both lose their
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families and they try to survive because there's no spoken word.
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You've 2 main characters who literally can't communicate with
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each other and yet there's still so much they communicate.
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You watch them fight over things and not understand why the other
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person's angry and it feels so painful when they can't
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understand each other. In comparison, this movie has
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literally none of those good parts.
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You don't empathize with them when they can't understand each
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other, you're just mad at them. It's just the.
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Worst, I made this note right after watching it.
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I said I don't care how well rested someone is, what time of
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day they watch this movie. Sandman will come for all who
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watch. Is that a threat?
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The other character that we should talk about, though, is
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Syndal. Syndal is played by Aubrey
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Miller, and she was tiny. She was four years old when this
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movie came out. This movie is not good anyway
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you slice it. I would have a hard time coming
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up with a good thing about it. I've won the kick.
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But she's very cute and the fact that they got her to do as much
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as she did at her age is very impressive.
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She's a pro in the second movie that we watched.
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I would say she's actually a pretty good actress for being
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four or five. But you can see the stunt double
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S. But there are very obviously
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stunt double S That's true. That's true.
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Get so tall. Speaking of stunt double S or
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dangers. Wait, I'm going to say the thing
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that's good about this movie, OK?
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The big monster thingy and the big stares.
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Just the fact that it's a big thing with little people.
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The perspective shots are the best.
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Yeah, we talked about this in a previous episode.
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Probably. Honey, We Shrunk ourselves.
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Being small is a fascination that we, as audience members
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really buy into. There's a lot more interesting
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things when you look at things from a different perspective,
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and them crawling up a giant staircase is very cool.
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I will say the one problem I have with that is I'm a big fan
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of world's building and so like, oh, I wonder if they're going to
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get into his lair and see how's his home reconcile with what
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alien species he is. And they walk in.
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I'm like, is that a big ass dining table?
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It is. It's just a really big table.
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It's one of those movies that really took me out of the film
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to realize a big. Monster.
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So we still don't even know his motivation.
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He didn't eat them, he didn't kill them, He captured them.
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And they were way too small to eat.
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I was thinking about that. They'd be like. 1/4 of a chicken
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nugget and he clearly had a motivation for why he did what
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he did, but none of it's ever explained.
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I'll tell you the only important thing about that giant.
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Is that he gets thrown down a pit.
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Is that he is defeated the same way every threat is defeated in
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this movie, and that's thrown off a Cliff.
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They're climbing over this Canyon and there's spiders.
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Oh, no. And then they knock a spider
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down and you just get to watch it slowly fall down a pit
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chance. You know this, It's that one
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Kirby right back at you. Meme of Kirby falling down a
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pit. Oh.
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I know what you're talking about that.
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Meme happens four times in this movie.
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You just watch this. Stupid spider fall down a bit.
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Twice, John, you were saying that this movie gave you a fear
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of spiders. When you were little, I think it
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should have given you a fear of chasm.
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Did you consider maybe just throwing them off a Cliff?
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I had it that seems to solve those problems.
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The giant is a real threat. You know this because they have
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to drop them off 2 cliffs. They have to knock you off a
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Cliff, the Whites. The Giants.
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The species is called Gorax. I was reading some trivia and I
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guess that's why Ewoks built their villages so high in the
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trees and have traps and catapults.
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Which is so good. Why don't you put that in your
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movie anywhere? Why do the only Ewoks in these
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movies live on the ground? So that ties together then?
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Both of these movies take place before Return of the Jedi.
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Which doesn't make sense because Wicket can speak English.
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Well, let's get into that list. It does make sense that they
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started on the ground, got attacked by giants, They got it,
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didn't know about the giants. We don't know that.
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They talk about the giant. No, no, we can't speak their
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language. I'm done, actually.
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So they live on the ground, get attacked by a giant.
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Another threat comes in which we'll talk.
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Vote in the second movie and then when they rebuild, they
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rebuild in the treetops for Return of the Jedi.
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All of that stuff does line up. As far as protecting themselves,
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you're a greater. Threat here dad, this is movie
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slop. They made this to make some
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money. There was number attempt put
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into world building. The only other thing I.
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Want to say about this movie is that Mace is arguably the
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protagonist and arguably, I guess George Lucas really liked
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that name because Mace appeared in the original draft of his
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Star Wars movies. It got shelved when he got rid
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of characters. He used it here, and then
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ultimately it would show up again in the prequels as Samuel
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Jackson's character. He wanted to name everything
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Mace, but I'm glad that he had revisionist history and
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pretended this Mace didn't exist with the later 1.
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Do we want to make a list of everything Mace touches from our
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memory? No.
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He touches a bird. He touches a leg.
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Tinkerbell. Yeah, he touches a fairy.
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He touches the spider web. His whole movie makes me so mad
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every time. How does he touch?
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I did like their horse, the normal P Yeah, and for riding.
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They had like a spherical Hut on the back of the horse.
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It would only work for very little people, but I did think
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that was me, John. Kane.
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I was thinking about this, why didn't the Ewok show up on a
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whole bunch of horses to fight in Return of the Jedi?
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Because they only had one. Movie is named after the fact
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that they have multiple. How?
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Many horses are in that caravan. It has to be more than one for
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it to be a caravan. I think I was confused because
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it was mentioned earlier how each of the characters were
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given this magical tool to go on their quest.
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Kind of like Galadriel gives the fellowship in the Lord of the
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Rings. The tools didn't always make
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sense. Syndal gets this candle that
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will absorb all the fairies, but it's not clear why.
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Tease to absorb all the fairies. Are you questioning why that one
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guy got earmuffs? Yeah.
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Several of them got different colored earmuffs.
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Yeah, one of them was. Courage.
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That's what Mace was really upset about.
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He was like, oh, everybody else is getting earmuffs, They got a
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rock. Christmas, actually.
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Can you open up your big present?
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It's just a bunch of clothes. I love that Mace's thing though
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was you get a rock which you will break.
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Yeah, they want to throw it on the ground, which he did
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multiple times. He.
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Did it perfectly. If he hadn't thrown it that many
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times, who knows if it would have broken when it was
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supposed. To when Mace is touching the
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water. That area that had that lake, it
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shaved off another layer and my suspension of disbelief was
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fully gone by that point. We're no longer on some alien
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planet. It just looks like a normal
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place so it just I want. To say most, this movie just
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looked like Alberta. It did look like Alberta.
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That's what I'm saying. They went from a jungle to
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Alberta. Did anyone feel the weight of
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the one Ewok's death at the end? I forgot that an Ewok died.
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He was so much bigger than the rest of them, so just kind of
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seemed like he was just a guy in a bear suit.
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Dad, if you could identify them, which magic item did that Ewok
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have? That was the lumberjack.
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When they found him late in the adventures, he chopped a tree
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down that almost landed on one of their caravan horses.
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Because. He's very good at his job.
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And then Mace tried to pick a fight with him.
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Because Mace. And then he so like.
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Iguana And so they handed him something that looked like a
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piece of bone or something like. It was a tooth.
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Sure. We watched it a few weeks ago,
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so I'm not exactly. Yeah, I watched it today.
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So you watched Caravan of Courage today.
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Oh no, sorry, I watched Caravan of Courage yesterday, OK.
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I wish. I wish I'd watched the two
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movies on different days. We watched the first movie and I
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was like, OK, I'm done now. And then Dad was like, no,
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you're coming back here and you're watching the second
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movie. Told me out of my room that I
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could watch the second movie. Yeah, it was checked out for the
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second movie, which I will accept fault for Caravan of
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Courage is definitely the worst of the two in my opinion, but
24:26
there's things to dislike about both, so let's jump into the
24:29
second one. In 1985 SA year later, the
24:34
sequel Ewok movie came out, The Battle of Endor Chance.
24:38
Can you tell the audience what happened in the second one?
24:43
So right off the. Bat all of single family dice
24:45
all the so single and wicked who now speaks English thank the.
24:49
Lord. Escape to.
24:51
The. Forest where they meet an old
24:53
man named Noah who is also crash landed and with the help of Noah
24:58
and some fast alien whose name is like a.
25:00
Beep or keep. He's a Pokémon.
25:02
He's a Pokémon and they save them from they say really bad.
25:06
Dude from the Marauders. This they had a title.
25:10
The Marauders are the plan of bad guys.
25:13
This is the writing that George Lucas did.
25:16
He gave them names and then gave.
25:17
George Lucas's word. When I was watching this movie,
25:21
it took about 80% of the way into the movie, maybe 90%, for
25:25
me to realize Syndal's family is just straight up dead.
25:28
They're not coming back. This isn't going to be the
25:29
reveal thing, Kai. Refused to believe the whole
25:33
movie that the protagonist from the previous movie would be
25:37
killed with less than 4 minutes of screen time in this.
25:41
Movie. He didn't get close to 4 minutes
25:43
of screen time I think. 33 seconds, yeah. 33 seconds.
25:47
Didn't you see the Fitbit said they were dead.
25:50
I didn't believe the Fitbit, Yeah.
25:52
It was quite shocking because Mace was like the main character
25:57
in the first one and. Why not just capture them?
26:00
I don't understand. Syndal is supposed to be in the
26:03
same situation as Wicket because Syndal's parents and family
26:07
died. She can relate to Wicket but
26:10
Wicket's family didn't die. They could have just been
26:13
captured parents. Are dead?
26:15
Where are your family now? It's been like 30 seconds.
26:19
I feel like Syndal moved on pretty.
26:21
Fast. Oh yeah, she did.
26:23
And the mom, you didn't even see her face.
26:25
Her face was just down in the mud.
26:27
These Fitbits, they're all wearing these bracelets that
26:30
tell you when your family member dies, like.
26:33
Yeah, that's their person. Why would someone own that?
26:36
And if they would, why don't we have them now?
26:39
In current day and age, would any of you use a bracelet that
26:43
would tell you if your family members are dead?
26:44
I don't think so. Like oh, my wife forgot to
26:47
charge her Fitbit. I guess she's dead.
26:49
Yeah, in real world technology, that would just be way too
26:52
finicky and they would just activate all the time.
26:55
But I'm imagining it's just a normal Fitbit.
26:57
It has other features, but if it thinks that you're dead, it'll
27:00
send a notification to somebody. Hey, just so you know, this
27:03
person might be dead right now. It uses that terminology.
27:08
Hey just adds up. I don't know if you're busy.
27:11
Or something right now, but your.
27:13
Wife might be dead. So.
27:16
The. Only thing I enjoyed about this
27:18
second movie. Was that more guys fall in the
27:21
pit? One guy falls in a Moat.
27:24
Oh no, I'm talking about the guys who had boulders rolled on
27:27
their heads. Yeah.
27:29
They did that to themselves. They just hit themselves with
27:31
boulders and then died. Yeah, there's just a bunch of
27:34
victim blaming over here. Are we supposed to blame the
27:38
boulders? They shoot at the kids and then
27:42
the boulders come running down on them and they die.
27:45
Lots of boulder blaming up here I just want to say.
27:49
So I watched both these movies with my uncle who is very
27:54
invested in the Star Wars universe.
27:56
Was he invested in this? He never remembered watching
28:00
these, so I guess maybe that's what your brain does after so
28:04
many decades so we can anticipate forgetting that we
28:07
ever. So we can come back.
28:09
I thought you were going to say after experiencing drama, yeah.
28:13
The brain tries to heal. Yeah, time heals all wounds.
28:17
I was glad to have him around because I had to keep him awake
28:20
by constantly pushing him, and that's what kept me awake was
28:24
that I had to keep him awake. This.
28:27
Is like energy vampire, but you're so far into the negatives
28:30
that you just need anything to stay up.
28:33
So we're watching the second movie and we're like, Oh my
28:36
goodness, this movie is way higher stakes than the first
28:39
one. So much action and adventure.
28:42
It's fast. Paced, it starts really good.
28:45
You think it's going to be good. It tricks you and then you.
28:48
Remember that? And then they meet Noah.
28:52
It just slows down and Noah has tiki or whatever.
28:57
This little white rat that's a speedster like The Flash,
29:00
despite having a very fast character movie, is at its
29:04
slowest. I think actually John, it slows
29:07
down. Before that I was almost asleep
29:09
when Syndal was being attacked by the bird, ironically.
29:13
Action was so low stakes that scene was.
29:17
So bad it was like a dinosaur. It was a stop motion creature
29:21
like most of the enemies dangerous creatures of these
29:25
movies. Whoa, did can I just bring up a
29:27
dinosaur this season? Technically, the name for the
29:33
monster is called the Condor Dragon.
29:36
It's a dragon, OK. That's an awesome name for a
29:39
stupid monster. Yeah, I think this movie goes
29:42
downhill right after the two guys get hit by boulders.
29:45
I think that was the peak of the movie.
29:47
That was our peak. The previous movie felt at least
29:50
somewhat grounded. OK, yeah, they're fighting a big
29:53
monster and the Ewoks have a shaman.
29:55
And then in the second movie full on, which shows up and
29:58
starts performing magic everywhere and I'm like, OK,
30:01
yeah, you should have expected that.
30:04
That was the next logical step. Oh.
30:05
This movie's so bad. And then she got stuck being a
30:08
crow. Yes, she felt the most out of
30:11
place. I guess she's like a night
30:13
sister according to the lore. So that's one of those Sith
30:17
witches from Ethamir that you learn about in the Clone Wars
30:21
and Rebels animated shows. But in this movie, she looks
30:26
like a Power Ranger villain. Yeah, she felt like the bad guy
30:31
from the live action lawn movie. Oh, that is a good.
30:34
Allegory, actually, just because they both turn into birds.
30:37
No, every aspect of them is basically the same.
30:40
Turning on the bad guy, they turn into birds.
30:43
They just feel like the same character.
30:46
That Noah the older man, the premise in this story is that he
30:50
and his companion also crash landed on Moon of Endor and his
30:57
buddy died. So now Noah this old man just
31:00
become grumpy and and so at first he is quite mean to Wicket
31:06
and Syndal, but then comes a loving father figure.
31:09
But the acting and the set and the way they deliver their
31:13
lines, it feels like a really cheap television programming
31:18
from four and five year olds. What are we calling the white
31:21
rap? Pokémon.
31:22
OK, that way that I feel like they react as soon as that
31:26
Pokémon gets introduced. The next 20 minutes of the film
31:30
are stuff like, oh that's that Pokémon doing its thing again.
31:34
Sorry. He Lance the moon of Endor.
31:37
Right, so the planet that this takes place on.
31:41
Is not Endor, it's the moon of Endor.
31:42
Well, it's the forest moon. We call it endor because that's
31:46
the only thing we see of Endor. It's very unclear.
31:49
I always thought it was the forest moon of Endor, as in
31:53
speaking about a small moon of researching the larger planet.
31:58
But in this movie they refer to it as Endor.
32:03
I think the narrator calls it Endor even in the first movie.
32:06
So it does make me question if the moon is called Endor.
32:10
I thought it was the bigger planet that this moon is around
32:13
that was called Endor, but it's unclear.
32:16
Might I pause it a suggestion? Yeah, this is a bad movie.
32:20
They don't know. In Star Wars, Endor is
32:22
technically a moon, specifically the Forest Moon of Endor or
32:26
Sanctuary Moon that orbits a massive gas giant planet also
32:31
named Endor. Oh.
32:32
Sometimes. Referred to as Tana.
32:35
I think AI is also confused in this case, John.
32:39
Did you do the AI summary? That's definitely what you just
32:42
read. AI summary you go to Wikipedia
32:44
if. You.
32:44
Oh yeah, yeah, check Wikipedia. Endor Designated IX3244-A Also
32:51
known as the Forest Moon of Endor or the Sanctuary Moon, the
32:54
small Forest Moon. It's the 9th moon that orbited
32:57
the Outer Rim planet of the same name.
33:00
What? That's terrible.
33:02
That seems to me like somebody got confused at one point.
33:06
And. Whatever, let's just call it all
33:08
indoor. They're just like, well, they're
33:10
both indoor now. What you didn't see when they
33:12
landed astronauts on Earth. Earth is by.
33:16
Anyone of Earth? Did anyone feel like the final
33:19
chase scene and fight of this movie just dragged on?
33:23
It did. There was an old man fight.
33:27
So for context for our listeners who don't want to watch this
33:31
movie. Because why would you these?
33:34
Marauders seem to be part of a medieval caste system with that
33:39
bearing. Yeah, and in their adventures
33:44
they come across one of the space faring humans.
33:48
And they kill them. They torture him to find out
33:51
about space travel. It doesn't really explain how
33:55
they get so many laser guns because the implication is that
34:00
they would have got those from him too.
34:02
But but I don't know why he was packing 200 laser guns.
34:05
No, I'm going on a journey to find out they so I'm taking 47
34:09
guns. I don't think they understand
34:12
that it's space travel. I think sure.
34:14
They just think it's some kind of magical artifact, right?
34:17
That would give them power. Still all in the same vein.
34:20
They don't really understand. And so that seems to be the
34:23
driving force in everything that they're doing.
34:26
They kidnap the Ewoks because the Ewoks are adjacent to this
34:31
family that knows about space travel.
34:34
Long story short, Noah and the kids rescue the Ewoks and then
34:39
they make their way back to Noah's ship and Noah uses the
34:43
laser cannons on his ship to shoot most of the bad guys in
34:48
Return of the Jedi. Ewoks are bloodthirsty killers.
34:53
They murder and probably eat most of The Imperials that they
34:58
fight. And I was actually leaning into
35:01
this idea that they get guns for the first time in this movie.
35:05
Where did all the guns go between the two films?
35:08
They must have used them up. They shot them.
35:11
Right now. As I'm telling you, they got
35:13
addicted to killing. And then they went savage and
35:16
forgot how to speak. OK, I see that.
35:20
But it also explains in Return of the Jedi, one of them sneaks
35:23
over to a speeder bike and just flips it on and takes off.
35:27
And so they have. Experience with technology.
35:30
Yes, this was all preparing them to be the perfect killing
35:35
machines that we see in Return of the Jedi.
35:38
Because in this movie, they just suck.
35:40
They're worthless. After this movie, a hyper
35:43
conservative Ewok rises up and explains why they need to garner
35:48
their own self-defense. That's why we get the hyper
35:52
violent Ewoks that we get. Yeah, I'm a Triceratops.
35:55
Conserve the water. Yeah, I'm an Ewok.
35:58
Conserve the guns. I mean, Ewok, they can't take
36:02
our guns away from us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dang.
36:05
It they could. Be on a.
36:06
Shirt. I know I'm going to see that on
36:07
a shirt. That's so upsetting, I know
36:12
that. The Ewok Rifle Association.
36:14
You're gonna. Spend the next week making this.
36:16
Shirt I guess it'd be the indoor Ewok is better.
36:19
It's still the ERA either way. And am I talking about the moon
36:23
or the planet? Oh.
36:26
Wow, you know, you have to do you have to make one of those
36:29
shirts where it's like my Harley, my gun in my life, but
36:32
it's just a speed or a blaster and an Ewok.
36:37
Yeah, this movie sucks. The very end of the movie,
36:40
Syndal gets on the ship with Noah and they fly away.
36:44
Was that the plan the whole time?
36:46
I felt surprised. Weird.
36:48
Because Syndal's like the Ewoks are my family now.
36:51
OK, bye Ewoks. We do know that it was planned
36:55
to be a trilogy, so. They were definitely supposed to
36:59
stay. On either, yeah, that was
37:01
changed at the last minute when they were like, well, maybe we
37:04
won't do another one of these or they would come back later.
37:07
They come back after the stormtroopers.
37:11
Yeah. Oh my God.
37:13
Seen. That seen that?
37:16
I'm kidding. Funny man.
37:19
You watch the news. Is your childhood best friend
37:22
essentially a serial killer of 38?
37:26
That would definitely be on The Republic News.
37:30
So after this movie, instead of doing a third movie, he did the
37:34
two seasons of the Ewok cartoon. It's true.
37:37
And you guys had seen the Ewok cartoon?
37:39
Maybe? Yes.
37:40
Which is why I was actually excited to do this episode.
37:43
And then I learned that we wouldn't get to watch a cartoon
37:45
from my childhood and instead we watched this.
37:48
I don't remember actually ever watching the Ewok cartoon so.
37:51
These are the same characters as in the cartoon though, Hey
37:55
Chance. With the exception of the
37:56
humans, obviously. Oh, I was going to say, do they
37:58
bring back the dead people or? They just puppet them around.
38:03
Oh yeah, like the helmet thing, right?
38:04
Those helmets definitely have heads in them.
38:07
Yeah, this movie ends with the crow lady getting stuck as a
38:11
crow because her ring got stolen or something.
38:14
And the bad guy getting turned to stone.
38:16
Yeah, the bad guy faces the wrath of the magical stuff that
38:20
he stole. So, Tim, you were the oldest
38:23
when you would have watched these movies.
38:25
My nostalgia for them is pretty faint.
38:28
I have snapshots, I remember the parents being in the bone cage,
38:32
I remember the spider, I remember the Condor dragon.
38:36
Just very vague memories. What were your memories like and
38:40
what was it like rewatching it? I would have seen Battle for
38:44
Endor when I was quite young. I don't think I watched Caravan
38:49
of Courage initially. It wouldn't have been until I
38:53
was older and you were around that we would have maybe rented
38:57
it or something. I don't even really know how we
39:00
accessed that first movie. By all accounts, Battle for
39:04
Endor is the better of the two on a.
39:08
Technicality. The low bar. 1% better does not
39:13
necessarily mean that it's a phenomenal.
39:15
Movie. But I really wanted to do both
39:18
for this podcast because I felt like there needed to be the
39:22
weight of these characters before they killed them in the
39:27
first 30 seconds. Yeah.
39:28
And I mean, it kind of worked because Kai refused to believe
39:32
that. They were dead.
39:33
So shocked that this children's movie would be like OK these
39:36
characters are dead now they're dead.
39:38
Good luck living with that trauma, kid.
39:40
So we watched on Disney Plus and Disney Plus is very deceiving
39:44
because for whatever reason, the cover or the image that comes up
39:49
when you pull up Battle of Her and.
39:50
Or yeah, that's the other thing. I saw the picture of the movie
39:54
and it had the kid front and center like.
39:57
What is some type of male protagonist?
39:59
It might be someone. Else there's if it was somebody
40:02
else. Who was it?
40:04
There were like characters on the box that didn't identify in
40:07
the movie. So I was just waiting.
40:09
For more humans to show up. We got 1 old guy in his pet rat
40:14
and that's all that we get. So I'm just waiting for the
40:16
characters to come back and then 80% of the way through the movie
40:20
I'm like, oh wait, they're actually dead.
40:23
I also was confused because of that poster on Disney plus
40:27
because Mace the boy is older in the picture and he's the biggest
40:32
part of the picture. Exactly it.
40:35
Takes up 80% of the poster. Would you rather that just be as
40:39
carcass be more? Honest, at least let the kids.
40:44
Know what they're coming into. As an adult, I've since learned
40:47
that Star Wars fandom didn't like Ewoks, kind of similar to
40:52
how people didn't like Jar Jar Binks.
40:54
But did you love Ewoks? As a kid?
40:56
You had Ewok toys. What was your process with
40:59
Ewoks? Yeah, that's fair.
41:01
I don't think I realized that they were supposed to be.
41:04
He hated. I mean, Returning the Jedi came
41:07
out the year that I was born, so I don't know what my first
41:10
introduction was to it. I have memories from when I was
41:13
really little, like being in Ireland with my cousin and him
41:17
showing me his Star Wars toys. And one of them being.
41:21
Ewok. He had the Ewok village.
41:23
Oh. To be fair, the village was
41:25
pretty cool. Very cool.
41:27
So cool in fact that they resold it later for the Robin Hood
41:31
Prince of Thieves set of toys. Just the Ewok Village repackaged
41:36
as a Robin Hood village. But yes, he had a rancor and he
41:42
had all the coolest stuff. I remember we went to the store
41:45
and I got to buy a Star Wars toy while we were there, and then
41:50
months later he would ship me a care package of the Star Wars
41:54
toys he didn't want. That's how we got John the
41:57
Millennium Falcon and the 88 in this.
42:01
You were. Oh wow.
42:02
Good. From scraps.
42:03
That's right, those best leftovers of all time.
42:07
Our best Star Wars thing were like the servants eat the best
42:11
because they get everything the king doesn't care about or
42:14
whatever. I remember as a kid, The Return
42:17
of the Jedi was my favorite Star Wars movie when I was really
42:20
young, just because there was so much flashiness and creatures
42:24
with Jabba's Palace, then with the Ewoks.
42:27
And he had the best space battle.
42:29
You know, like the duel between Luke and Darth Vader was slow
42:34
was my least favorite part, but the space battle outside where
42:37
they go inside the Death Star was so cool too.
42:41
Yeah, so I agree, John. Those were things that I didn't
42:43
really pick up on. And I liked Battle for Endor as
42:47
well. By the time Episode 1 came out I
42:51
was in high school and I I did not like Jar Jar Binks.
42:57
There was enough to like about that movie that I didn't hate
43:01
it, but Jar Jar Binks really frustrated me and turned me off.
43:05
But I actually was telling John. I watched episode 1 about a week
43:10
or two ago and gosh Jar Jar Binks is worse than I remember.
43:15
Even he is atrocious. Whoever thought that Star Wars
43:19
needed more poop and fart jokes? I can't even wrap my head.
43:24
I'm gonna kill him. Like, it's so bad now watching
43:28
these movies and as an adult watching Return of the Jedi,
43:32
there's no way those little teddy bears could kill any of
43:36
the Imperial soldiers, let alone Palpatine says they're a legion
43:42
of his greatest soldiers. There's no way.
43:47
Yes, Return of the Jedi, you know, as a kid, it was my
43:50
favorite Star Wars. As an adult I just can't really
43:54
get past the Ewoks, they are really hard to watch.
43:58
I think that they could take them down.
43:59
If there were a lot of them, hundreds of thousands of Ewoks
44:02
in the forest, I think that they would wear you down.
44:05
Like one of those things where it's like 1000 Kermits versus 10
44:09
Iron Man, yeah. No, I've seen those videos and
44:13
there's like a mountain of dead. Kermits every time.
44:17
No, what I was saying is the one of every Pokémon versus a
44:20
trillion lions, but the current one is 1 gorilla.
44:22
Versus one gorilla versus on. Yeah, which wins.
44:26
Who's to say if you had 200 humans, 300 humans, 1000 Ewoks?
44:31
This is the gorilla. Getting done.
44:32
Whoops. I don't think all of the Ewoks
44:35
need to know technology. But The Imperials had guns.
44:38
OK, cool. You shoot an imperial.
44:40
With a bug and. Then somebody else picks up his
44:43
gun and shoots somebody randomly.
44:45
I want to point out these guys are wearing armor.
44:47
Have you seen a stormtrooper get shot by a blaster bolt?
44:49
They die instantly. Do they die or do they just get
44:52
hit really hard? They just don't.
44:54
They never get up. They're all getting shot with
44:57
sleeping darts. Those Ewoks were hitting them
45:01
with sleeping hammers. Oh, the.
45:04
Sleeping pit that they were dropping them into.
45:06
I see the pit of big. Sleepy Shine fell in the pit of
45:11
Big Sleepy twice. He's a little bit bigger, so
45:14
it's harder. To put him down for a nap.
45:17
Let's go to closing, folks. Actually wait before we do what
45:21
happened to the? Witch I got turned into a crow.
45:23
Did she stay a. Crow.
45:24
Yeah, she needed her ring to turn back and forth, so.
45:27
She flew towards the ring, but then it was gone, so she just
45:30
left. The force works in mysterious
45:32
ways. Sometimes you get turned into a
45:35
crow for life. Is she normally a crow?
45:37
That's right, she's a crow that learned the Force.
45:40
No, just like that Pond learned how to use the Force and sucked
45:44
Mason. Why she?
45:47
Take that ring around and put it in the swamp and turn it into a
45:50
person. If you could give that ring if
45:53
you. Put that ring on somebody's
45:54
finger and then took it off. Would they turn into a crow?
45:57
Is that the implication? Or maybe they would turn it to
45:59
her. Oh, in reality.
46:02
The Crow and the. Person are two separate people.
46:05
They just swap out via the ring. Yeah, it's like Shazam.
46:08
Yeah, she's trapped in the. Ring curtain.
46:10
Sorry, Chance. The Crow.
46:12
Is a person. Yeah, and they're free now.
46:14
Do you want to? Clarify because they don't have
46:16
this. The crow in Ewok law is defined
46:19
as having rights, and being a person is what refers to those
46:23
of sound mind and body able to make conscious thoughts.
46:27
Yeah, Crowbius mortis, everyone knows.
46:29
This. Yeah, yeah, we can tell it.
46:32
Has sound mind because it calls for the bad guys to come fight
46:36
them when they're running away, so we know that they understand
46:40
what's going on. The Crow really seemed to want
46:42
that ring though. Yeah, this was all.
46:45
Actually explained in the original draft of this movie
46:49
when it had a narrator. John complained so much about
46:52
having a narrator in the first movie that they took it out.
46:55
Yeah, in the third movie there were no visuals.
46:58
And it was all narrator. It was just a black screen and
47:02
an audio book. Yeah, yeah, the.
47:03
Narrator would just tell you what happened the.
47:05
Cave of the Big Sleep. No, it was a pit of big sleepy.
47:11
OK, so big sleepy tell. Us what I would change.
47:17
Can I? Wonder what I would change?
47:19
The movie doesn't have that many things that need changing.
47:22
I would look at the script and then I would laugh the person
47:26
who made it out of the room, George Lucas.
47:29
I would laugh, George. Lucas out of the room.
47:31
Get out of here, George, the characters.
47:33
Are not compelling the narrator. In the first movie sucks.
47:37
I would just have to completely rewrite this movie.
47:39
What do I say? I just wouldn't make this movie
47:42
so I quite the. All right, John.
47:45
Over to you. Yeah.
47:46
I guess I would just change everything I would.
47:48
Just make a better movie. You are with your folks.
47:50
Kai's making a new movie. Coming this fall, a new Ewok
47:54
movie. OK, wait, wait.
47:56
You remove the Ewoks. You.
47:58
Remove all the. Magic stuff and you.
48:00
Make it in space. There's a giant artifact that's
48:03
going to destroy planets, and then you make it all about
48:06
trying to go stop that because you have a robot that has a disc
48:09
in it. That's the last hope for the
48:11
plans for it. That's my movie.
48:13
Like the Grinch. Yeah, Yeah.
48:16
Sounds a little. Derivative if you ask me, but
48:18
well. It's based off of the concept.
48:20
Of the Grinch, yeah. I'm pulling.
48:22
Ideas from all of the SU. Stories OK and I was taking
48:26
notes on the movie The. Only positive things I could say
48:29
what the first movie were tent on the back of the horse and
48:33
that the movie poster had some cool artwork.
48:35
What positive things can you say about the second movie?
48:38
Well, the second one I created the space for I.
48:40
Called them commendations, like positive things.
48:43
Oh yeah, it remained empty. This movie.
48:58
Really hard for something. Good, and you will not.
49:00
Find it John, the fact that in the first movie you.
49:04
Were willing to. Praise anything that made you
49:07
think for half a second and then in the second movie you weren't
49:10
able to find anything that's so funny.
49:14
Do you think the. 1st movie's better than the second movie,
49:16
John. Yes.
49:18
And then the Ewoks went to the village.
49:20
To look for I think at least in the 1st. 1.
49:23
Bad guy. It's just a mysterious giant and
49:27
these trials in their journey. The second one actually has bad
49:30
guys, but it's worse off for it because the bad guys do it just
49:34
suck. And that grandpa and speedster
49:38
white Pokémon, they're just horrendous.
49:41
I think any kind of merit I take.
49:43
Away from these. Movies is I learned that I have
49:46
a lot of growing to do in being more patient when you have that.
49:51
Much time for. Introspection, you know, learn a
49:55
lot about how you can grow as a human.
49:57
Yeah, John would. You rather watch the.
50:01
First half of the first movie or the second-half of the second
50:04
movie? Those are the worst parts, yes.
50:06
Which is worse to you? Is narrator worse?
50:09
The speedster is terrible, John, but I don't think the second
50:13
movie reaches. As.
50:15
Low of lows is my Mace is unbearable in that first.
50:19
Movie that kid is so whiny is worse.
50:22
I think the only thing. That.
50:24
Would give the second movie in Edges that Wicked can speak
50:28
English so you don't have to sit through those terrible scenes
50:32
well and also every character in.
50:34
That movie is so bad. But the only ones who speak
50:37
English are the worst ones. Yeah, like Wicked Speak English
50:41
is so good because Wicked is bearable.
50:43
That's the bar we needed to cross, you know?
50:46
Are you saying that you don't like food?
50:48
Eat, eat. Food, Food.
50:50
Eat, eat, eat, eat. I think that's our callback to
50:54
the. Unfortunately, right.
50:58
Well, John had a. Really.
50:59
Glowing review for these movies chance over to you.
51:05
You know it's. Bad this review is.
51:07
I can't find. Anything.
51:09
So bad I truly hated. This experience, I want you guys
51:12
to know that, Yeah, The way I don't think I can actually
51:15
describe, Yeah, I hated these movies.
51:19
So much. There's like no redeeming
51:21
quality I think. This is gonna be two ones.
51:26
Bordering on zero. I really hated +1 or -1.
51:32
Sure, +0 or. -0. +1 because if a movie.
51:38
Is a negative. I enjoy watching it with other
51:40
people. I watch this as my wife and I
51:43
felt bad for her. I.
51:50
Thought you were gonna say you were.
51:51
Embarrassed to watch them and you didn't want anyone to know
51:56
that makes it good. That makes it a better movie.
52:00
Is that you felt bad for someone else?
52:02
I so bad you guys. I really.
52:04
Hated this movie. I'm genuinely curious where
52:07
this. Would rank in our scale of worst
52:10
movies we've had to watch for this podcast.
52:12
Like, I think that this is less bad than Dougal, less bad than
52:16
Fast and the Furious 35. But how much less bad?
52:20
Well, I think that both of these movies are.
52:23
Not as bad as things like Lamb Before Time movies have been.
52:27
However, Lamb Before Time, we typically are in and out in an
52:31
hour. This was you were like, oh.
52:34
It's OK, it's a short movie. Terrible.
52:38
OK, well, I guess over to me. I don't think I'm going to watch
52:41
this movie again. What?
52:45
Yeah. So.
52:46
I don't have much. To add to that, we all had an
52:49
amazing time and do we finish this season strong?
52:53
We only have one episode left of this season and that'll be our
52:57
season 4 in review. You guys, four years isn't that
53:02
wild? That's crazy.
53:04
You know, that's the only. Good thing about.
53:06
Bad movies is that when we review them, we get to have fun
53:10
making fun of how terrible they were, you know, healing from
53:13
trauma and all that. I don't think that's how that
53:15
works. Chance did you?
53:17
Enjoy your time here today. Did you enjoy your podcast
53:20
experience more than you enjoyed the Batman podcast experience?
53:24
I mean, that's a low bar because.
53:25
John was asleep. Yes, that's true.
53:28
The one time. The one.
53:30
Time. No.
53:31
I'm. You were asleep during.
53:33
The podcast. John, I know we make fun of me,
53:36
but nicely on the movies we aren't making.
53:38
Fun of you for. That one, we're just making that
53:41
the benchmark for the worst episode.
53:43
So I was asleep. Yeah.
53:45
John, we need you here. You're the.
53:46
Most likable person on the podcast.
53:49
You can't be asleep even chances life likes you.
53:53
Most. OK, well, let's call her there.
53:56
Lookout for weirdos and don't forget to breathe in and out.
54:01
That's right, foodie. Eat Grandma John, do you have
54:10
one? Praise Beethoven.
54:11
Nice classic.