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Mac & Bone Show - Jim Szoke Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Why are you so pretty?
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: Oh man rock and roll panther victory monday ladies and
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: gentlemen mac and bone show we having a good old
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: time today panthers to three and two over 500 bebop
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: of bebop said um uh when was the last time
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: we were over we got jim zoki here so i'm
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: gonna fact check with zoki and the panther radio network
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: he says man it must be a long time since
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: we've been over 500 weren't we over 500 last year
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: four and.
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: Three I think so. We can check it out.
• 0:49
  Speaker 4: They were 1-3, then they won 3 straight to get
• 0:52
  Speaker 4: to 4-3.
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: That's then when the win-one-lose-one starts.
• 0:56
  Speaker 5: Myron Goodman said, is this the biggest win of the
• 0:59
  Speaker 5: Bryce era? And I had to point out the Rams
• 1:01
  Speaker 5: and Packers games last year. This is against a name-brand team,
• 1:07
  Speaker 5: but we've also got to keep in mind of who
• 1:09
  Speaker 5: they are.
• 1:10
  Speaker 3: They had the bigger wins last year.
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: Definitely. And I believe so fully there are big wins
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: coming this year. from this team. I like the way
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: they're coming together. It wasn't perfect, obviously, 149 yards of penalties,
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: but that's a game I ask in the past. The
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: Panthers could probably find a way to mess that up
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: in the past. You know what I mean? They ended
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: up taking care of business.
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: No, and you think of like, so what were the
• 1:36
  Speaker 3: 149 yards?
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: 149, 13.
• 1:36
  Speaker 3: Philadelphia, by the way, had 11 for 84.
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: They helped us a little bit too.
• 1:39
  Speaker 3: The referees were like the constant show. I think Dave
• 1:42
  Speaker 3: Kanellis was right. The penalties were pretty much well earned.
• 1:45
  Speaker 3: You can't even argue them.
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: But some of them had to be like, really?
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: They could not spot the ball. You would see guys
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: fall down and they'd be like two yards off. They
• 1:54
  Speaker 3: look at either their left eye or their right eye
• 1:56
  Speaker 3: when they're marking the ball down on the field. But
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: the thing is, like, beyond those, I was going to
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: say beyond the 149 penalty yards, how much actual, like,
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: yardage was lost, like, on the three returns, the punt
• 2:06
  Speaker 3: and kick returns? Like, the actual yardage on top of, like,
• 2:08
  Speaker 3: the penalty yardage, like, yeah, how much field position did
• 2:11
  Speaker 3: you actually lose? I'd like to know the number because
• 2:13
  Speaker 3: that was a huge setback.
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: I was looking at the, what the hell they call
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: that thing, Bone, you print out? The game, what? Why
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: is it so hard for me? The stats?
• 2:19
  Speaker 3: The box score.
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: Okay. They call it something else. The game book. Game book.
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: So anyway.
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: The football thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the game book. They won starting field
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: position by 10 yards. Our 31. Theirs was their 21.
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: Imagine what it could have been with those returns.
• 2:32
  Speaker 3: No doubt.
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: Seriously. We won it by 20 yards.
• 2:35
  Speaker 3: That bodes well, too, because think how that was also
• 2:37
  Speaker 3: a problem earlier on. And having A-Chan back, he looked
• 2:39
  Speaker 3: very comfortable back there. Definitely. And obviously, I mean... To me,
• 2:44
  Speaker 3: I think you've got a couple guys. David Moore had
• 2:46
  Speaker 3: a nice return, another one that was called back by
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: a penalty. So it would be nice to have had
• 2:49
  Speaker 3: that field position. I think the outcome would have been
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: decided earlier and easier had you had those things happen.
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: But it's nice that you can win by 11 and
• 2:57
  Speaker 3: still overcome all those kind of obstacles out there.
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 3:00
  Speaker 3: You guys are correct.
• 3:01
  Speaker 5: It was a year ago, 4-3 over. 500, October of 2025.
• 3:04
  Speaker 5: So you were exactly spot on there. From your game notes. How–
• 3:12
  Speaker 5: How important is it for a team trying to still
• 3:16
  Speaker 5: establish their winning culture, their identity, to have games like
• 3:20
  Speaker 5: yesterday when there is a lot going against you? To
• 3:23
  Speaker 5: win when you're not at your best is actually a
• 3:25
  Speaker 5: sign of really good things to come, right? They didn't
• 3:27
  Speaker 5: do it against Cleveland. They did it yesterday.
• 3:29
  Speaker 3: No, that was– yeah, that was one of those– Cleveland's weird.
• 3:32
  Speaker 3: They won again yesterday. I don't even know how they're
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: winning games. It doesn't seem like a terrible loss right now. No, because–
• 3:37
  Speaker 3: and I say that about Cleveland. Their defense is really good,
• 3:40
  Speaker 3: and they did a great job, if you remember, like
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: with Denzel Ward shutting down T-Mac.
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: In that game. And Coker went out. I think that
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: was a big factor. We didn't have him.
• 3:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 3:48
  Speaker 3: Everyone focuses on Deshaun Watts. That's a good defense. And
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: I think with Philadelphia, that was a really good defense, too.
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: And that's why it made it more difficult to win yesterday.
• 3:55
  Speaker 3: But you can see, even with the Panthers winning– You
• 3:58
  Speaker 3: still have the difficulty, although Will Lee showed strides yesterday,
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: if you don't have J.C. Horn and Mike Jack replacements
• 4:04
  Speaker 3: to that level. And so it was better. Obviously, we
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: didn't call Evan's name as much yesterday in the game
• 4:09
  Speaker 3: as we did the previous one with the win with
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: Detroit the week before, two weeks before. But I think,
• 4:15
  Speaker 3: you know, again, that's still like you can see that's
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: like the thing, like how can we get through these
• 4:19
  Speaker 3: next whatever, five games, whatever the number might be, with
• 4:22
  Speaker 3: not having the same level right there. And Will Lee
• 4:24
  Speaker 3: is growing up quickly. I think he did some good
• 4:26
  Speaker 3: things to two early penalties, obviously. hurt, but maybe better
• 4:29
  Speaker 3: to get those penalties and give up a long touchdown
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: or something like that. So I do like the fact
• 4:33
  Speaker 3: that we're seeing some growth there, but it's all happening
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: on the field while you're still trying to win games.
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: What did you think about Chuba in the second half?
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: And Tommy Tremble. I mean, these are two guys. First
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: of all, they're like best buds by all accounts.
• 4:47
  Speaker 3: These are Matt Rule era players.
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: They are. They are, man. Matt Rule players actually sticking
• 4:52
  Speaker 2: around for the turnover.
• 4:54
  Speaker 5: Think about what these guys have seen and won't talk about.
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: And they've lived to tell about it and play well
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: in Philly.
• 5:00
  Speaker 3: They both probably feel like they're like 58 years old.
• 5:03
  Speaker 3: I remember back when Matt Rule was here.
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: They've been here for a while, and I feel like
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: they're both kind of underrated.
• 5:09
  Speaker 3: Well, and look at what Chuba did yesterday. He basically
• 5:11
  Speaker 3: was the entire rushing attack because you had Bryce had
• 5:13
  Speaker 3: to run it three times, but it was only six yards.
• 5:16
  Speaker 3: A-Chan only ran it once for a negative carry. And
• 5:18
  Speaker 3: then we had Mitchell Evans, you know, jump in with
• 5:20
  Speaker 3: the quarterback sneak, if you will. So it was entirely
• 5:23
  Speaker 3: on Chuba to run the ball yesterday, 28 times, 120 yards.
• 5:27
  Speaker 3: And then Trumbull just is like, I've always liked the
• 5:30
  Speaker 3: fact that when you have a tight end, you don't
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: know what his role is going to be on a
• 5:33
  Speaker 3: given play. Like Darren Waller is a terrific player. But
• 5:36
  Speaker 3: when Trumbull's out there and Mitchell Evans to a larger degree, too,
• 5:39
  Speaker 3: is he a blocker? Is he a pass receiver? I
• 5:41
  Speaker 3: think that's what's great about that when they do the
• 5:43
  Speaker 3: 13 personnel where it makes it so difficult to judge
• 5:46
  Speaker 3: for a defense what's going to happen out there because
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: you kind of, you try to, now with Coker healthy,
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: you've got T-Mac, you've got Coker, times where Waller's out
• 5:54
  Speaker 3: there with those other tight ends. Who are you going
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: to cover? And it's going to give Tommy a lot
• 5:58
  Speaker 3: more opportunities. I'm glad to see him get an advantage
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: of that. And he is a good catcher. I mean,
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: he does a good job, I think, in the receiving end.
• 6:04
  Speaker 3: He doesn't really drop many, I don't think, so I
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: think He's a nice weapon to have because we focus
• 6:09
  Speaker 3: so much on the big plays of T-Mac and Coker
• 6:12
  Speaker 3: and so forth. You need those guys to pick up
• 6:13
  Speaker 3: first downs or get in the red zone like that
• 6:15
  Speaker 3: and get a touchdown or two.
• 6:16
  Speaker 4: Definitely.
• 6:16
  Speaker 5: What did you think of the job that Will Lee
• 6:18
  Speaker 5: did yesterday? And how big is that to have a
• 6:21
  Speaker 5: guy play well without the other guys in there? So
• 6:24
  Speaker 5: it's almost like a blessing in disguise that when Horn
• 6:26
  Speaker 5: and Mike Jack come back, all of a sudden you've
• 6:28
  Speaker 5: got another guy playing at.
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  Speaker 2: A high level. No doubt.
• 6:30
  Speaker 3: And again, like some early penalties, but then those went
• 6:32
  Speaker 3: away as the game went on. And, you know, we
• 6:34
  Speaker 3: all know certain players are good. Devontae Smith's a good player.
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: When you see him in person and watch him run routes,
• 6:39
  Speaker 3: you go, that guy's really good. I mean, he is
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: every bit as good as A.J. Brown was when he
• 6:44
  Speaker 3: was there, is Devontae Smith. So that's a tough assignment
• 6:47
  Speaker 3: that was mostly going to Willie Lee yesterday. And he
• 6:49
  Speaker 3: held it in there, I think. And you have to
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: be aggressive and you're going to probably get away with
• 6:53
  Speaker 3: a little hand fighting and things like that. And it
• 6:55
  Speaker 3: kind of goes back and forth. So you take your penalties,
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: but better that than just playing loose and giving big
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: buffer and letting him have all this room to catch
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: the ball out there. I like that he was aggressive
• 7:05
  Speaker 3: in his approach to the way he defended him.
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you who else was aggressive is Juro Avera
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: with the blitzes. PFF's in-game kind of stuff. We'll see
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: what their final numbers are. They had it at 57%
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: blitz rate. Okereke and Lloyd, they started going after the
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: quarterback early and often. Okereke on the first play gets
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: a sack. Those guys are really good, and I think
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: that helped our corners on the back end. What did
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: you think about that aspect of things? I love it.
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: You think of that first sack, it was him and
• 7:34
  Speaker 3: Nick Scott both coming. That's how aggressive it was. They
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: sent through to the same slot, and then, of course,
• 7:38
  Speaker 3: Okereke could have had an interception on the second play
• 7:41
  Speaker 3: of the game, which Really would have set the tone
• 7:43
  Speaker 3: early on with that. But I love that. I think
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: that's what, you know, Joe's always wanted to do with
• 7:47
  Speaker 3: this defense. But when you don't have the personnel, you
• 7:49
  Speaker 3: can't risk giving up the big plays on the back
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: half of the defense there. So, again, especially when they
• 7:55
  Speaker 3: do get J.C. Horn and you get Mike Jack back,
• 7:57
  Speaker 3: you can be even more aggressive, have even more confidence
• 8:00
  Speaker 3: about your success rate in doing that. But that's always
• 8:02
  Speaker 3: been his style. That's what he's always wanted to do there.
• 8:05
  Speaker 3: And how cool is it, too, that we have, you know,
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: Rod and Devin Lloyd, well-known in the offseason, but get
• 8:10
  Speaker 3: Bobby Okereke off the couch at home. at the last
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: minute to get a player of that caliber to pair
• 8:15
  Speaker 3: with Devin Lloyd on the inside just makes that whole
• 8:17
  Speaker 3: defense feel different.
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: And Dodson as a backup ain't chopped liver either. At
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: 120-plus tackles last year, they got him, too, in reserve.
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: That is linebacker room, home makeover edition. They completely redid
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: that in a flash.
• 8:33
  Speaker 5: So any reason why Rob Hunt keeps wandering downfield? He's
• 8:37
  Speaker 5: like my great-uncle Augie at Thanksgiving back in the day
• 8:39
  Speaker 5: when he'd wander outside and we'd have to get him
• 8:40
  Speaker 5: back inside the house.
• 8:41
  Speaker 3: I think the bigger issue is he was raising his
• 8:43
  Speaker 3: right hand as if he was open. Like, I'm open!
• 8:46
  Speaker 3: And then he realized that's not his role in the offense.
• 8:47
  Speaker 3: He's not allowed to do that. He's had a couple
• 8:50
  Speaker 3: this year in different situations. That's not the first time,
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: even those two in this game.
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: He had one against Detroit, too.
• 8:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a runner. He's walking off. In that mode, though,
• 9:01
  Speaker 3: how great and just hearing the joy in his voice
• 9:04
  Speaker 3: as we talked to him in the postgame was Taylor
• 9:06
  Speaker 3: Moten having him back. A guy I didn't know First
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: of all, what his health situation was going to be, period,
• 9:11
  Speaker 3: let alone football situation, just like in life, what his
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: health situation was going to be back. And then defensively
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: to get Turk Wharton back for the first time as well.
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: Turk had a play you probably saw work. He had
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: like two offensive linemen on him, and he literally shoved
• 9:22
  Speaker 3: them off to the side to the right and then
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: went to the left to make the stop.
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a good play.
• 9:26
  Speaker 3: These guys matter, and they're like, you know, these are
• 9:29
  Speaker 3: veteran guys that are, again, just going to help you
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: be better on those interior positions and just free up
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: other guys like Okereke, like Devin Lloyd to make big
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: plays on defense, and then offensively, Having stability there, you know,
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: Monroe Freeling not healthy right now, but you can see, again, like, well,
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: he's learning and growing and making mistakes, and you're kind
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: of living with those. I was shocked at Morton's ability
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: to come out there with, I would have to say,
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: you know, not playing football all this time. He didn't
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: have training camp to come in and be able to
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: play the amount of football that he played.
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: He did, and he was real solid, too.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think PFF had him with two pressures.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't really notice them. You would have just thought
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: it was a regular Taylor Moten football game.
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: It's crazy. That's a huge relief to get him back
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: out there. And then when Monroe is healthy, he'll obviously
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: give you some depth as maybe a swing tackle, something
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: like that. So I think I know Philadelphia is banged up,
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: and they've got probably the worst situation in the league
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: as far as injuries go, but people forget from day
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: one of training camp, that was the Panthers. And for
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: them to be 3-2 in overcoming the number of injuries
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: they've had is terrific.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so close to 4-1, too. That Browns game,
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: it came down to a penalty another day. We lead
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: the NFL in penalties if we don't commit that one
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: where we hit Watson up high.
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: Side note, I'm watching last night. I'm watching the Cowboys-Packers game.
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: It was both sides. Can we dial down what the
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: rule is for— You know, hitting the quarterback. I just
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: feel like it's just like it's not football. It's just
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: so much. And going back to the Deshaun Watson play
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: that you're referring to, I just see it so much
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: where it just takes so much. I mean, if it's
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: not something that's actually hurting the quarterback, if you're tapping
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: someone's helmet, like you're just touching the quarterback too late.
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: If you're not landing, I get the whole landing of
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: the entire body on there or whatever on top of
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: the quarterback and the weight. But there are so many
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: plays where you're just going, it's so ticky-tacky. They've got
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: to somehow dial it back to where football still looks
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: like football.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: And Bryce gets these, too, Bob. Bryce had one yesterday, too.
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: The tap to the face mask or the tap to
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: the side of the helmet.
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: There should be a certain amount of aggression that should
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: be a part of that.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: It shouldn't be a tickle. I know I'm putting— We
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: have 15 yards for tickling.
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: It's like the kids in the backseat of the car.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: He's touching me.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: Stop.
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: It's the new tickle me QB doll. You know what
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: I mean?
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: It should be. Could you put a judgment call in
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: there where it's forcible contact to the head? Then you
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: call it, but in your, you know what I mean?
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: I know we're giving them more responsibility, but it seems
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: like some of these little grazing should not be.
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: It's gone too far. Deshaun Watson was a great example
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: You know the penalty I hated yesterday? First of all,
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: Will Lee, I thought, granted, he tried to pants a
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: man on live TV, but I thought that's defensive hold, right?
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: The ball wasn't thrown yet. Isn't that defensive hold? That
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: was about as egregious of a hold as you could have, yes.
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: But not P.I., though.
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: But the one that killed me was.
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: That was public embarrassment.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: Illegal use of cheeks um no the tommy tremble just
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: a really quick point at cooper dejean after he scores
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: a touchdown and that's a penalty these are grown men
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: are there little feelings getting hurt out there he pointed
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: at him for one.
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: He said it was for the previous suplex that happened
• 12:35
  Speaker 5: he did.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: It and that's why he did it he said i
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: shouldn't do.
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: It like you're standing over a player it's got to
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: be more of a deal than that like at least
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: hit him with the football or something after you score
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: like something more i get it with the football i'm
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: like come on man do we need to do that
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: like in peewee football i get it if you want
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: to tell a kid hey don't point to him like
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: that these are grown dudes are we really ruining the
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: world if tommy tremble for a second points.
• 12:59
  Speaker 5: Children are watching how do you explain that how do
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: you explain to someone young that this guy here pointed
• 13:05
  Speaker 5: at somebody.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: Daddy raj has to raise our everybody's kids apparently It is.
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: It's like there's an energy that goes away. Home or away.
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: In a stadium where there's a big play made and
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: here come the penalty flags. They have to call the
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: way the rules are written, but I think it's time
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: to kind of look back at, like, you know, putting
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: it somewhere between where it is and where it used
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: to be with some of these rules.
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: I'm watching the play right now where Idzik had Coker
• 13:27
  Speaker 5: in the backfield, one-on-one with the linebacker.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: Beautiful, dude.
• 13:29
  Speaker 5: And the time of that play, too, 13-7. You're backed
• 13:33
  Speaker 5: up third and eight, and you pull that one out there.
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: Beautiful. Man, oh, man.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: And watch Bryce move to give him more time to
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: put that little shake on Zach Bond. Bryce buys a
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: little bit of time, then hits him.
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: It was beautiful.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: Idzik was in his bag. I talked about it earlier
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: this hour. Like, there's about five, six plays where I'm like—
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: Both touchdowns, the tremble felt schemey. You know what I mean?
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: He's scaring me because I feel like, can we lock
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: him up to like the longest offensive coordinator contract? Because,
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: you know, he's right in that mode of what teams
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: are looking for. You know, these young, aggressive play callers.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: You see the improvement. We're talking about Bryce Young being
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: an MVP. Obviously, that's going to get attention everywhere. So,
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: you know, good for him. Whatever ends up happening with him.
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: He deserves it, but he's right in that mode of
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: what today's NFL teams are looking for as far as
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: that next Ben Johnson, guys like that.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of hoping we can squeeze an extra year
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: out of him. I'd like to get kind of two
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: out of him if possible. I know I'm assuming that
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: his offense keeps bowling for the next couple of years,
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: but I also do want to remind everybody, when you're
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: actually good, this is what happens. I know it's been
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: so long for us. But when you're actually good, they
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: want your coaches.
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: It's a weird thing.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: It's a great compliment. It's a great compliment.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: And obviously with Canales, I mean, they're pretty much in lockstep.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: So whatever the offense is, it's going to still have
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: that same kind of feel to it, whatever it is.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: I think they might promote from within. Like a, what's
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: my man's name? Hariger's one, the QB coach. What's my
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: other man's name? The one they retained by giving him
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: a promotion? Blutarski? Not Blutarski. What the hell?
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's a guy named Blutarski.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Bercovici! Mike Bercovici! That was from Animal House, I believe.
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: It definitely was. Mike Bercovici is his name. ECU Memphis Thursday.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Night, right?
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: This conference, real quick, is ECU devastating loss. They had
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: the lead until they didn't in the last minute. They
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: lose in overtime on the road at UAB. Memphis loses
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: by two touchdowns to Tulane. And the Charlotte 49ers, as
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: you know, in that same field where the Panthers won.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: win over Temple, get their first win of the year.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: So Memphis and Charlotte were the top and bottom, and
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: both did the exact opposite. So a lot of parity
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: within the American Conference. All right, so we'll talk to
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: you next week.