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Episode Two Hundred Six: The Blame Game · The Death Of Journalism

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number two hundred and six of the
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Speaker 1: Death of Journalism podcast. I'm your host John Zigler. On
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Speaker 1: today's jam packed edition of the DOJ, the floodgates of
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Speaker 1: liberal media and sanity open and responds to Trump's big victory.
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Speaker 1: But it is it different this time from what happened
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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. How all of this provides Trump in
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Speaker 1: America with a huge opportunity to destroy wokeism. Gavin Newsom
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Speaker 1: begins his twenty twenty eight presidential campaign and what happened
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Speaker 1: when our little town here in California was devastated by
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Speaker 1: wildfires during the last taping of this podcast. I have
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Speaker 1: a lot of rules for life, one of which is
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Speaker 1: that we learn most about the truth after a big
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Speaker 1: event is over. I've talked about this many times in
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Speaker 1: the past. The best examples are divorce, a court case, retirement,
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Speaker 1: and obvious a major political campaign. And that is exactly
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Speaker 1: what has happened, as is usually the case, after the
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four presidential election has come effectively.
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Speaker 2: To a close.
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Speaker 1: We've learned a lot of things, some of which we
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Speaker 1: suspected all along, but we didn't know for sure. And
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Speaker 1: there are many things that we're never going to know
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Speaker 1: because of the broken nature of the news media.
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Speaker 2: But I want to.
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Speaker 1: Begin this episode of the podcast with maybe the most
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Speaker 1: amazing story. There's been so many, so it's hard to
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Speaker 1: choose from maybe the most amazing story of the last
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Speaker 1: few days. And I don't think this has gotten enough attention,
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Speaker 1: and it comes from former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.
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Speaker 1: Now you know, if you've listened regularly to this podcast,
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Speaker 1: that I have focused a lot on the so called
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Speaker 1: Biden Coup over the last several months and Nancy Pelosi's
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Speaker 1: role in that. I've referred to her as having ordered
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Speaker 1: the code read on Joe Biden, and we played multiple
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Speaker 1: clips of her trying to navigate around what her role
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Speaker 1: was in that, and her even admonishing CNN anchors during
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Speaker 1: the Democratic Invention for even asking her about it, because,
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Speaker 1: after all, it was only the most important political maneuver
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Speaker 1: in the modern history of American politics, Why should we
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Speaker 1: ever get to the bottom of what actually transpired? But effectively,
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Speaker 1: she has admitted indirectly that she was responsible for forcing
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden out of the race after the first debate
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Speaker 1: and after the Republicans had held their convention and already
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Speaker 1: chosen their vice presidential how many in JD vance. Well,
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Speaker 1: now that Harris has lost, and people are looking for
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Speaker 1: someone to blame, and some people are looking at Nancy
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Speaker 1: Pelosi because, after all, she's the one that changed the
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Speaker 1: entire direction of the campaign, and there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: data indicating that Harris actually underperformed Biden throughout the entire country. Now,
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Speaker 1: who knows whether that Biden could have performed as well
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Speaker 1: as he did in twenty twenty. I'm not suggesting that,
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Speaker 1: but when you go to unprecedented lens to oust a
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Speaker 1: sitting president and a properly elected Democratic nominee, you best
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Speaker 1: win because if you lose, by all rights, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: get blamed.
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Speaker 2: Well, Nancy Pelosi.
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Speaker 1: Is taking no responsibility for this whatsoever, and instead she's
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Speaker 1: blaming wait for it, Joe Biden. Right, Nancy Pelosi is
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Speaker 1: blaming the man who won the election in twenty twenty,
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Speaker 1: who she ousted in twenty twenty four in favor of
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Speaker 1: a candidate who ended up losing. But even better than that,
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Speaker 1: she's not just blaming Joe Biden, She's indirectly blaming Kamala
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Speaker 1: Harris too. She gave an interview effectively to the New
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Speaker 1: York Times, and the New York Times had this headline,
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Speaker 1: Pelosi laments Biden's late exit and the lack of unquote
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Speaker 1: open primary, which, by the way, you may recall she
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Speaker 1: claimed that they did have. We played a clip from
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Speaker 1: her saying that on this podcast, where she claimed incredibly
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Speaker 1: lamely that there was a process. It's just that no
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Speaker 1: one decided to run against Kabla Harris in the twenty
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Speaker 1: four hours that it took her to wrap up the
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Speaker 1: Democratic nomination. The subheadline in the New York Times is
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Speaker 1: quote had the President.
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Speaker 2: Gotten out sooner, there may have.
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Speaker 1: Been other candidates in the race, the former House Speakers
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Speaker 1: said in an interview with The New York Times, suggesting
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Speaker 1: she had anticipated a quote open primary. This is hilarious
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Speaker 1: on so many different levels. But let me just give
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Speaker 1: you a couple of them. The first is obviously the
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Speaker 1: lack of personal responsibility, blaming both Biden and now Harris,
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Speaker 1: because you know, the implication there is, well, if we
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Speaker 1: had just had more time, if Biden had given us
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Speaker 1: more time, then maybe we wouldn't have been stuck with
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Speaker 1: this lousy candidate Harris. I mean, that's the only way
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Speaker 1: you can interpret what she said. But this idea that
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Speaker 1: somehow an open primary was ever contemplated or remotely possible
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Speaker 1: is beyond laughable, completely absurd. We talked about this numerous times,
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Speaker 1: that there was no way. First of all, I was
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Speaker 1: hoping for them to have an open primary, a truly
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Speaker 1: open process in shut a short period of time between
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Speaker 1: Biden getting out and the Democratic Convention would have resulted
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Speaker 1: in a massive shit show and in my opinion, a
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Speaker 1: much larger Republican victory up and down the ballot. Why
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Speaker 1: because Democrats would have had a civil war.
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Speaker 2: They would have had a civil war.
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Speaker 1: As soon as you have any legitimate opposition to Kamala Harris,
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Speaker 1: a sitting vice president, a woman of color who, by
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Speaker 1: their rules, must not be forced out.
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Speaker 2: She cannot be skipped. You know, you cannot skip her
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Speaker 2: in line. It's her turn.
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Speaker 1: So there's a certain portion of your base that is
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Speaker 1: not going to allow anybody other than Kamala Harris to
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Speaker 1: be the nominee. She was the only person who could
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Speaker 1: get the nomination in a short period of time to
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Speaker 1: unify the party, the only one. I said that a
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Speaker 1: million times. There was no other option. It did not exist.
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Speaker 1: Now if Biden had never run to begin with, which
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Speaker 1: that's where Biden really made the mistake, and that's where
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Speaker 1: Democrats deserve blame across the board. They want to really
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Speaker 1: find out why they lost. It's because they had didn't
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Speaker 1: have the balls to tell Joe Biden before the twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four president dential campaign began, sir, you've done a
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Speaker 1: great job. You promised to be a transitional figure. You
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Speaker 1: need to give up the car keys, let a younger
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Speaker 1: generation take over. If they had had the balls to
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Speaker 1: do that, which, of course, nobody in the Never Going
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Speaker 1: To Party has any balls.
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Speaker 2: It's against their religion to have balls.
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Speaker 1: So there's nobody that had the guts or the fortitude
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Speaker 1: to come to President Biden and say, you know, this
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Speaker 1: is not a good idea for you, the party, or
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Speaker 1: the country. They let it ride, and they let it
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Speaker 1: ride until they couldn't let it ride anymore. After the debate,
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Speaker 1: the cover up became untenable. Even the media was no
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Speaker 1: longer on board. So this is why Pelosi had to
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Speaker 1: order the code red because at first Biden was being
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Speaker 1: super stubborn, as old men like him generally are.
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Speaker 2: And we will probably never know.
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Speaker 1: So what was it that Pelosi said or did that
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Speaker 1: actually forced Biden out of the race. I mean, that's
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Speaker 1: the interview you really want to hear, you know, Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: I've already referenced retirement often provides the truth. Eventually, I
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Speaker 1: think Joe Biden is going to give an interview, especially
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Speaker 1: now that Kamala Harris has lost. Kamala Harris had won,
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Speaker 1: we would have no chance of knowing really happened there.
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Speaker 1: But the fact that she lost and Biden's going to
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Speaker 1: be retired soon. And given the fact that Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: wore an all red suit on election day, which was
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Speaker 1: something I even missed and is mind blowing.
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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people are interpreting that as
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Speaker 2: a signal.
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Speaker 1: I think that there might have might actually be something
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Speaker 1: to that, because that's just crazy for a Democratic first
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Speaker 1: lady on election day to wear an all red suit.
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Speaker 2: But okay, whatever the reality here is.
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Speaker 1: I think Biden's eventually going to let the beans be
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Speaker 1: spilled here. But Nancy Pelosi is hilariously trying to claim
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Speaker 1: that it really wasn't her fault, it was Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: for not getting out sooner and she expected an open primary,
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Speaker 1: which is absurd. An open primary would have been the
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Speaker 1: worst thing in the world for the Democratic Party because
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Speaker 1: they're either going to end up with Kamala Harris anyway,
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Speaker 1: or they're going to end up in a situation with
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Speaker 1: a massive portion of their base is enraged because you
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Speaker 1: took the.
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Speaker 2: Spot away that was.
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Speaker 1: Owed to in their minds, earned by a woman of
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Speaker 1: color trying to make history. And she's already the sitting
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Speaker 1: vice president. There was no other.
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Speaker 2: Option, and it's delusional. I would love to know if
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Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi really believes this.
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Speaker 1: It's delusional to try to claim otherwise.
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Speaker 2: This is obvious.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I truly believe that if they had tried
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Speaker 1: to have an open primary and an open convention and
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Speaker 1: the shit show that that would have been, Republicans would
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Speaker 1: have at least fifty seven seats in the Senate, they
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Speaker 1: would dominate the House, and Trump would have won with
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Speaker 1: well o fifty percent of the popular vote.
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Speaker 2: I truly believe that.
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Speaker 1: And that's regardless of which candidate emerged, because either have
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Speaker 1: Harris being damaged or.
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Speaker 2: You have, like I said, a huge portion of the.
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Speaker 1: Democratic base pissed off over the fact that she got
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Speaker 1: jipped out of the job. So This is just hilarious
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Speaker 1: to me that Nancy Pelosi is trying to do this
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Speaker 1: and in large parts she's getting away with it because
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Speaker 1: Democrats are in this.
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Speaker 2: Battle of Okay, who do we blame here?
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Speaker 1: And again, I think Joe Biden not deciding to take
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Speaker 1: a pass on the entire twenty twenty four presidential campaign,
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Speaker 1: that's where a lot of the blame begins. That's a
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Speaker 1: large portion of why Democrats did not win this election,
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Speaker 1: because then you have enough time to potentially have a
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Speaker 1: real process and maybe Harris earns it, and there's enough
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Speaker 1: time to heal the party, and she doesn't look like
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Speaker 1: a DEI candidate. She doesn't look like she got handed
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Speaker 1: the nomination under unprecedented circumstances, undemocratically, while you're claiming that
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Speaker 1: your number one campaign issue is try to preserve democracy.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I think that at least subconsciously, that
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Speaker 1: mattered to a lot of people. So if Harris been
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Speaker 1: seen as having earned the nomination, I think it would
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Speaker 1: have probably helped her quite a bit, assuming obviously that
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Speaker 1: she got the nomination, which I think.
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Speaker 2: There would have been a very good chance that she
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Speaker 2: would have.
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Speaker 1: But under the circumstances that were allowed to be played
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Speaker 1: out where no one had the balls to tell Biden
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Speaker 1: to go take a hike, and then until Nancy Pelosi
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Speaker 1: finally stepped in and last moment and ordered the code read,
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Speaker 1: it was too late at that point to have any
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Speaker 1: sort of an open primary. As far as the blame,
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Speaker 1: Pelosi hasn't gotten that much, except I have to play
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Speaker 1: this clip from MSNBC. A black fem host by the
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Speaker 1: name of Simone Sanders Townsend went off, went off on
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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi. And I'm kind of surprised that this is
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Speaker 1: not a more popular belief or sentiment among the liberal media, because,
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Speaker 1: like I said, if you make such an extraordinary movement,
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Speaker 1: if you do something data outside of the norm, and
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Speaker 1: you oust a sitting president from a democratically earned nomination,
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Speaker 1: and your candidate that results from that, the only candidate
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Speaker 1: they could have resulted from that, that decision loses and
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Speaker 1: loses rather profoundly.
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Speaker 2: You need to take some blame for that.
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Speaker 1: And here is Simone Sanders Townsend doing exactly that to
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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi on MSNBC.
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Speaker 3: Everybody talks about how the speaker Amerta, you know, she's
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Speaker 3: so strategic, she can count and yet she did all
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Speaker 3: of that when she was the speaker in Congress. But
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Speaker 3: my question is, where is your calculator now? Because Democrats
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Speaker 3: about the Dan lose the Dan Gonne House. And for
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Speaker 3: her to sit on this podcast, who played the sound
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Speaker 3: about how you know it's up to the you know,
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Speaker 3: I don't deal in presidential politics, but she helped orchestrate
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Speaker 3: I'm going to say it, she played in presidential politics
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Speaker 3: and cycle, and she helped orchestrate the very public demise
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Speaker 3: of the president.
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Speaker 2: And thank god for Joe Biden.
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Speaker 3: That he came out and yes, endorsed his VP because
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Speaker 3: these people wanted to open primary and we went for
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Speaker 3: were and when.
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Speaker 2: Were we going to have an open primary?
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Speaker 3: Between July twenty first when he stepped down in August
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Speaker 3: twentie is when the convention was gonna happen.
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Speaker 2: When was that going to happen?
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Speaker 3: And anybody who's suggesting that clearly wasn't looking at a calendar.
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Speaker 2: For me, I'm looking for.
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Speaker 3: The magic wand that apparently the Democrats on Capitol Hill
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Speaker 3: think that we have. I hope, I surely hope that
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Speaker 3: Democrats eke out the majority in the House. But if
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Speaker 3: they don't, I think the people that helped the people
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Speaker 3: that had so much to say about the president and
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Speaker 3: the vice president earlier this summer. I think that those
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Speaker 3: people need to take it back seat. I think the
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Speaker 3: strategists that obviously fleeces the vice president's campaign and made
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Speaker 3: a whole bunch of money, okay, and and get no
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Speaker 3: money to the turn they need to take a back seat.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: They got to get the Robbie Mook treatment. Robbie Mook
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Speaker 3: loss in twenty sixteen, and then he was up in
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Speaker 3: Harvard and just came back goodbye.
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Speaker 1: Now Democrats are in this very weird spot where they're
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Speaker 1: looking around trying to figure out who can they blame
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Speaker 1: that will make them feel better about their loss.
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Speaker 2: That's really where they are, and I think, rather.
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Speaker 1: Hilariously, that means not blaming Kamala Harris. There's been almost
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Speaker 1: no blame on Kamala Harris because, after aw, she's the
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Speaker 1: woman of color who was trying to make history, and
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Speaker 1: they just spent the last several months telling us how
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Speaker 1: amazing she is, so we're not allowed to blame Kamala.
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Speaker 1: She ran an amazing campaign, she was fantastic, right, which
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Speaker 1: I don't believe at all. I think This is in
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Speaker 1: Ockham's Razors situation. And I think that she was allows
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Speaker 1: the candidate and that's the main reason why she loved lost.
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Speaker 1: But we're not allowed to blame Kamala for the left
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Speaker 1: wing media because the Democratic base doesn't want to hear that.
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Speaker 2: They want to pretend that.
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Speaker 1: Somehow everything was just so dead set against her that
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Speaker 1: that's why she lost, which is typical right for a
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Speaker 1: DEI candidate, because not only does the DEI person get
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Speaker 1: the job that they don't deserve when they fail, they
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Speaker 1: don't get any of the blame that they deserve because
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Speaker 1: the people that gave them the job were invested in
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Speaker 1: them having been fantastic. It's this never ending cycle of bullshit.
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Speaker 1: So they're not blaming Kamala. They are to some extent
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Speaker 1: blaming Biden, like Nancy Pelosi, but not nearly as much
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Speaker 1: as Biden probably deserves. By the way, Biden looked about
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Speaker 1: as happy as he has ever looked during this certainly
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Speaker 1: this campaign when he gave his speech the day after
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Speaker 1: the election results were known for sure, and I believe
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Speaker 1: that he was relieved. I believe that he was happy.
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Speaker 1: How happy, I don't know. I think he was frankly conflicted.
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Speaker 1: I think surely part of him didn't want to see
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Speaker 1: Trump win, part of him wanted to see Democrats control
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Speaker 1: the White House. But he has to feel at least
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Speaker 1: personally somewhat vindicated by the fact that he got ousted
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Speaker 1: and it didn't do the Democratic Party any good at all.
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Speaker 1: So they're definitely not blaming Kamala, and they're definitely not
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Speaker 1: blaming Biden nearly as much as he probably deserves, because,
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Speaker 1: after all, they also spent a long portion of the
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Speaker 1: last three months telling us that he was George Washington right,
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Speaker 1: he was this selfless leader who did the right thing
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Speaker 1: for the country. Oops, how'd that turn out from their perspective.
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Speaker 1: So they're not gonna be blamed Coammala. They're not gonna
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Speaker 1: really blame Biden. They're not blaming Pelosi as much as
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Speaker 1: she deserves. So there's not that many options left. So
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Speaker 1: a lot of them are vote blaming the voters. That's right,
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Speaker 1: We're gonna blame the voters. The voters were just too
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Speaker 1: sexist and too racist. They're just not capable of understanding
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Speaker 1: the greatness of Kamala Harris because she has too much
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Speaker 1: pigmentation in her skin. And she has female genitalia whatever
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Speaker 1: a female is, because they can't tell us what a
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Speaker 1: female is. But you know, that's one of the most
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Speaker 1: hilarious elements of the entire woke nature of the liberal
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Speaker 1: movement and the Democratic Party. So, you know, we're all
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Speaker 1: a bunch of sexists and racists, and you know, it's unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable that so many of them, not all, but
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Speaker 1: so many of them are just not getting this. So
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Speaker 1: they feel like they have to to make themselves be
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Speaker 1: able to go through the stages of grief with as
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Speaker 1: little pain as possible. They're going to blame the voters
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Speaker 1: for being too sexist and too racist. And speaking of
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Speaker 1: the stages of grief, the coping here has also been hilarious.
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Speaker 1: We've got Democrats and members of the media saying that
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden should put Kamala on the Supreme Court by
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Speaker 1: forcing out Liberal justice Soda my yir, who's seventy years
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Speaker 1: old and not in great health.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is more.
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Speaker 1: Hilarious than the Nancy Pelosi rationalization.
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Speaker 2: Regarding the Biden coup.
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Speaker 1: This is the most absurd idea ever heard in my life.
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Speaker 1: And this got taken seriously, this was mentioned on major
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Speaker 1: television news shows as a plausible alternative. So as a
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Speaker 1: consolation prize, Biden should force out a Latina woman.
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna force out a Latina woman from the
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Speaker 2: Supreme Court, even though you really don't have any leverage
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Speaker 2: to do.
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Speaker 1: That, And we're gonna somehow in two months jam in
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris for another job. She's not remotely qualified for
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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court of the United States. Not to mention,
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Speaker 1: the most absurd part of this whole thing is there
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Speaker 1: is zero chance then it would be successful.
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Speaker 2: Zero us.
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Speaker 1: All Republicans would have to do is delay the process
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Speaker 1: for a couple of months, knowing full well that they're
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Speaker 1: gonna get Trump as president.
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Speaker 2: And it looks like fifty three votes in the US Senate.
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Speaker 2: So it's just ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: So if it ever actually happened, if she did retire,
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Speaker 1: it would probably hand Trump his next Supreme Court justice.
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Speaker 2: I mean, these people are out of their fucking minds.
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Speaker 1: And so when that got shot down, when apparently Soto
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Speaker 1: my Air actually had to put out some sort of
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Speaker 1: a statement saying she's not retiring, go pounds hand, they
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Speaker 1: went to another level of absurdity. The next idea was
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Speaker 1: to have Biden resign from office before the inauguration to
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Speaker 1: make Harris the first female president. This was mentioned by
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Speaker 1: prominent people on CNN very seriously, and by the way,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't completely shot down.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's an interesting idea.
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Speaker 1: Maybe Biden should resign and make Harris the first female president.
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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, this is absurd on so many
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Speaker 2: different levels.
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Speaker 1: Number one, why didn't he resign from office when he
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Speaker 1: dropped out of the presidential race. That would have at
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Speaker 1: least had some logic to it, because it would have
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Speaker 1: been tied to the realization that he wasn't up to
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Speaker 1: the job, which he clearly is not. And it could
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Speaker 1: have theoretically helped Harris in her presidential campaign because now
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Speaker 1: she's actually the president of the United States.
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Speaker 2: It puts Biden off to the side.
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Speaker 1: I mean in theory, who knows, But I think this
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Speaker 1: was a close enough election where had Biden done that
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Speaker 1: it could have made a difference. She would have been
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Speaker 1: taken more seriously, and the Biden issue I think would
20:51
Speaker 1: have been diffused to a certain degree. There would have
20:54
Speaker 1: been a lot less questions in that regard. And so
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Speaker 1: it didn't happen when the last moment that it should have,
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Speaker 1: which was when Biden dropped out of the presidential race,
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Speaker 1: but doing it now for symbolic purposes, basically also that
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Speaker 1: the Trump paraphernalia will be all screwed up and calling
21:14
Speaker 1: him forty five and forty seven so that he would
21:17
Speaker 1: actually be forty eight.
21:19
Speaker 2: I mean, that's literally what they're doing.
21:21
Speaker 1: This for is just so bonkers, not to mention, totally
21:25
Speaker 1: insulting to women. You're going to make the first female
21:30
Speaker 1: president purely ceremonial, purely as a pity price.
21:39
Speaker 2: Are you kidding?
21:40
Speaker 1: You can't think of anything in this realm more insulting
21:44
Speaker 1: to women, and which would more bastardize the entire concept
21:49
Speaker 1: of the history of becoming the first female president. But
21:54
Speaker 1: this is how these morons think in the Dei world.
21:58
Speaker 1: They think, well, you know, first of all, everyone gets
22:01
Speaker 1: a participation trophy, and two, well you know, she didn't
22:05
Speaker 1: really earn it, but we're gonna give it to her
22:07
Speaker 1: anyway because she's a woman of color, and therefore we're
22:10
Speaker 1: gonna make history. We're gonna make history for history's sake,
22:13
Speaker 1: which of course removes all significance of the history.
22:18
Speaker 2: And the people were taking this seriously. It's unbelievable how
22:23
Speaker 2: much we have learned.
22:25
Speaker 1: How crazy these people are in the days since the election.
22:30
Speaker 1: And then there's the rank and file liberals, especially the
22:33
Speaker 1: liberal women. And this is always difficult to judge because
22:37
Speaker 1: you're looking at social media posts and people virtue signaling
22:40
Speaker 1: and going through their own personal stages of grief and
22:43
Speaker 1: showing how hurt they are and how angry they are
22:46
Speaker 1: and saying all sorts of crazy things. And there's no
22:49
Speaker 1: way to know how prevalent this is in the real
22:52
Speaker 1: world based upon social media. But there have been so
22:55
Speaker 1: many videos out there, almost all of middle aged women
23:00
Speaker 1: who are enraged by this and are claiming that they're gonna,
23:04
Speaker 1: you know, do something dramatic in protest.
23:07
Speaker 2: One of the most.
23:08
Speaker 1: Hilarious of these protests is something called Operation four B,
23:12
Speaker 1: where apparently women are supposed to have stop having sex.
23:17
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is with men in general
23:20
Speaker 1: or nonliberal men in particular. Of course, you know, I
23:23
Speaker 1: doubt many liberal men are having sex with these women
23:26
Speaker 1: to begin with, because they're liberal men. But the idea,
23:31
Speaker 1: I guess, is to have a sex strike on men
23:34
Speaker 1: who in general and particularly Trump supporters, you know, as
23:40
Speaker 1: a way of punishing them. Trust me, based upon the
23:44
Speaker 1: videotapes that I've seen, there's no punishment involved. There's nothing
23:49
Speaker 1: to be lost here. But these are the women that
23:52
Speaker 1: are gonna be boycotting sex with Trump men or men
23:55
Speaker 1: in general. Some of them are also gonna be wearing
23:59
Speaker 1: blue blue bracelets, blue bracelets to uh, you know, protest
24:05
Speaker 1: Trump's victory and so that they can be identified I
24:08
Speaker 1: guess as nut jobs. That's essentially what they're doing, making
24:11
Speaker 1: sure no one has.
24:12
Speaker 2: Any question that they're nuts.
24:15
Speaker 1: So they're gonna wear a blue bracelet in protests, or
24:18
Speaker 1: my favorite, there was a video of a woman who
24:22
Speaker 1: definitely should be wearing a mask that went viral where
24:25
Speaker 1: she's now suggesting to her fever, her fellow liberal nuts
24:32
Speaker 1: that they also go back to wearing masks as a
24:36
Speaker 1: protest of Trump's victory. Now, again, going back to the
24:40
Speaker 1: theme of this podcast, you eventually, if you keep your
24:42
Speaker 1: eyes open, you're going to learn the truth, especially after
24:46
Speaker 1: major events, after things are over with. Well, what I
24:50
Speaker 1: have I said one hundred times about the COVID mask,
24:53
Speaker 1: that it was an anti Trump virtue signal. It has
24:57
Speaker 1: absolutely no scientific value, what's whoever, Well, this woman was
25:02
Speaker 1: single handedly proving my entire case where if you're going
25:07
Speaker 1: to use the mask now as a by the way,
25:10
Speaker 1: she claimed, it would also would have dual effect of
25:13
Speaker 1: protesting Trump's victory while also improving people's health. No, that
25:19
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the second element of the benefit of this.
25:21
Speaker 1: The second benefit was we wouldn't have to see your face.
25:25
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just unbelievable that these people are the
25:30
Speaker 4: lack of self awareness that they're exposing the fact that, oh,
25:33
Speaker 4: by the way, they don't even look at the mask
25:35
Speaker 4: as really having any health benefits.
25:38
Speaker 2: It's a political statement.
25:40
Speaker 1: So yes, please please go back to wearing the mask
25:43
Speaker 1: and you're blue bracelet, so we know who these nutjobs
25:47
Speaker 1: are in their effort to signal their virtue and express
25:52
Speaker 1: their anger over Trump's horrendous victory that's going to send
25:57
Speaker 1: America into the dark ages and and basically take away
26:01
Speaker 1: all the rights of women, which is a completely absurd
26:05
Speaker 1: concept and is obviously I'm someone who's no fan of
26:08
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, but there's no chance that that's actually gonna
26:11
Speaker 1: happen to me. This is all a way of trying
26:14
Speaker 1: to avoid who is really to blame and it's obviously
26:19
Speaker 1: mostly obviously not totally, but mostly Kamala Harris, and I
26:25
Speaker 1: don't believe that her campaign was run well at all.
26:29
Speaker 2: You could make a very strong argument it was a
26:32
Speaker 2: complete disaster.
26:34
Speaker 1: She spent a billion dollars, an unprecedented amount of money,
26:39
Speaker 1: and I can't stand it when Democrats are crying about
26:42
Speaker 1: Citizens United and all the unfettered money in our politics
26:47
Speaker 1: and we got to get rid of it, yet they
26:49
Speaker 1: say nothing about the fact that their candidate spent more
26:53
Speaker 1: than twice as much money as Donald Trump did a
26:57
Speaker 1: billion dollars and apparently still has about twenty million dollars
27:02
Speaker 1: in debt, which, hilariously and very passive aggressively, Donald Trump
27:07
Speaker 1: has offered to help pay. Who knows if that's really true,
27:11
Speaker 1: but that's what he is publicly offered to do. I
27:14
Speaker 1: think is a way of highlighting the fact that Harris's
27:17
Speaker 1: campaign not only spent a billion dollars but actually went
27:20
Speaker 1: into debt in the last days of the campaign. There
27:23
Speaker 1: are people who are concerned that they're not going to
27:25
Speaker 1: be paid for the bills that they have for the
27:30
Speaker 1: Harris campaign. But she spent a billion dollars and lost
27:36
Speaker 1: to a candidate with enormous negatives, not to mention the
27:41
Speaker 1: fact that almost all of that money was spent in
27:44
Speaker 1: the swing states, and she did marginally better in the
27:47
Speaker 1: swing states than she did in the nationwide vote as
27:52
Speaker 1: a whole, at least in comparison to twenty twenty. I mean,
27:56
Speaker 1: it depends on how you look at the data, but
27:57
Speaker 1: you could argue that she did lightly better in the
28:00
Speaker 1: swing states, maybe by three points on average than she
28:05
Speaker 1: did in the non competitive states. But for a billion dollars,
28:11
Speaker 1: which is more than twice as much as your opponent spend,
28:16
Speaker 1: you would think you would do better than that. And
28:20
Speaker 1: you got to go back to the candidate. The candidate
28:23
Speaker 1: and the ATMOSPHERICX of the campaign itself, the entire environment,
28:29
Speaker 1: the entire theme, the big picture. Most people don't vote,
28:35
Speaker 1: especially those that are deciding late. Those that are swing voters,
28:38
Speaker 1: don't decide on minute details. They decide on the big picture,
28:44
Speaker 1: on the feeling, on the gist, on the vibe, if
28:48
Speaker 1: you will, of where they think the country is, where
28:51
Speaker 1: they think it'll go if Candidate A wins, or where
28:54
Speaker 1: they think it might go if Candidate B wins, or
28:57
Speaker 1: how they might feel. Feelings are huge here about what
29:01
Speaker 1: would happen if candidate A one or if candidate B one.
29:05
Speaker 1: And to me, the Harris campaign had some massive fundamental problems,
29:11
Speaker 1: huge fundamental problems. One, As I've said many times, Harris
29:15
Speaker 1: was not a good candidate.
29:17
Speaker 2: She was terrible at interviews.
29:20
Speaker 1: She gave word salads all the time, She contradicted herself
29:23
Speaker 1: all the time.
29:25
Speaker 2: You know, she had an annoying cackle for a laugh.
29:29
Speaker 1: Her career is devoid of any accomplishments. She was obviously
29:34
Speaker 1: a DEI recipient and virtually everything that she's ever done.
29:38
Speaker 1: I talked about that in her history in California, where
29:40
Speaker 1: she was never vetted. She never had to earn anything
29:44
Speaker 1: because she's a Democratic woman of color in California with
29:48
Speaker 1: no legitimate news media and no legitimate Republican party. So
29:52
Speaker 1: she ends up as a Senator from California and then
29:54
Speaker 1: in the middle of COVID after bombing in her presidential campaign,
29:58
Speaker 1: she gets selected as a d pick for the vice
30:02
Speaker 1: presidency of the United States, and she wins because of
30:04
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. No one voted for Biden because Kamala Harris
30:09
Speaker 1: was his vice presidential nominee.
30:10
Speaker 2: He was just checking a box. For his base.
30:13
Speaker 1: He literally said that he promised a woman, and he
30:16
Speaker 1: was urged for it to be a woman of color.
30:19
Speaker 1: So he picked Kamala Harris because she had run for president.
30:23
Speaker 1: And you know, even though she had basically called Biden
30:26
Speaker 1: a racist during that campaign during one of the debates,
30:29
Speaker 1: he made her the vice presidential selection. So she got
30:33
Speaker 1: to her place with no accomplishments, not having earned it,
30:37
Speaker 1: and then she literally gets handed, literally the handed denomination
30:41
Speaker 1: in an unprecedented circumstance after the coup on Biden himself.
30:48
Speaker 1: So that's a massive problem, one that the media tried
30:51
Speaker 1: to ignore, tried to spin, tried to pretend was not
30:55
Speaker 1: the case. She got asked about it a couple of times,
30:57
Speaker 1: and she failed miserably, especially in in that NBC interview
31:02
Speaker 1: and in the Brett Bhar interview. The Brett Bhar interview
31:04
Speaker 1: came first, and then I think NBC asked her about
31:08
Speaker 1: it because of the Brett Bhar interview. She had no
31:10
Speaker 1: proper answer for anything related to Biden's declining mental acuity,
31:17
Speaker 1: the Biden coup her taking the nomination with no process.
31:21
Speaker 1: She had nothing, mainly because there wasn't really a good
31:24
Speaker 1: answer to give.
31:25
Speaker 2: But she was not good at this.
31:27
Speaker 1: So she's a terrible candidate, having nothing to do with
31:31
Speaker 1: the sexism or the racism alleged or otherwise of the
31:35
Speaker 1: average American voter.
31:38
Speaker 2: But so there were big picture problems here, and I
31:40
Speaker 2: tweeted about this.
31:41
Speaker 1: I said, the Harris campaign told us to vote for
31:44
Speaker 1: her because, and I wrote listed three reasons she's a woman,
31:49
Speaker 1: but they can't even define what a female is. That's
31:53
Speaker 1: a problem, right, if the basis of your campaign is
31:58
Speaker 1: she's a woman, She's.
31:59
Speaker 2: Gonna the first female president, this would be historic.
32:03
Speaker 1: Shouldn't you at least be a party that can define
32:06
Speaker 1: what the hell of female is?
32:09
Speaker 2: So that's one problem.
32:11
Speaker 1: I think a bigger problem is they wanted us to
32:14
Speaker 1: vote for her because she will save democracy, but she
32:17
Speaker 1: was handed in the nomination very undemocratically. And then the
32:23
Speaker 1: third point I made, she's a change agent. That was
32:26
Speaker 1: another major reason why the Harris campaign thought we should
32:30
Speaker 1: vote for her.
32:30
Speaker 2: She's a change agent.
32:32
Speaker 1: But she's an incumbent vice president who said she would
32:36
Speaker 1: do the same as Biden had done. She couldn't say
32:41
Speaker 1: one thing that she would have done differently when she
32:43
Speaker 1: was asked on the view that very simple question, which
32:47
Speaker 1: she completely bombed. So in the big picture, she was
32:53
Speaker 1: a terrible candidate, and the campaign was awful at trying
32:59
Speaker 1: to navigate the those problems. I think they actually exacerbated
33:03
Speaker 1: those problems rather than mitigated them. And they blew all
33:07
Speaker 1: this money, and it's obvious by the way. And I
33:10
Speaker 1: even got sucked into this in the last episode before
33:14
Speaker 1: the election, where I guess, I don't know if I
33:17
Speaker 1: misinterpreted or whether or not they misinterpreted the Harris campaign did.
33:22
Speaker 1: But I was talking about Harris taking a pass on
33:26
Speaker 1: giving her public position on Proposition thirty six here in California,
33:30
Speaker 1: which should have been a layup as a former attorney
33:33
Speaker 1: general of the state. This was the make Crime Illegal
33:35
Speaker 1: Again proposition in California, which passed.
33:38
Speaker 2: Widely, just like I told you that it would.
33:41
Speaker 1: This would have been an incredibly easy answer for Harris
33:44
Speaker 1: to give, especially if she's trying to appeal to moderate
33:48
Speaker 1: voters in Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin, to say, yeah,
33:52
Speaker 1: I'm in favor of it because I think we need
33:54
Speaker 1: to get back to common sense when it comes to
33:57
Speaker 1: fighting crime. But she didn't do that, which I interpret
34:00
Speaker 1: it as an extraordinary amount of confidence on the part
34:03
Speaker 1: of the campaign that they don't want to take any
34:05
Speaker 1: chances at all.
34:07
Speaker 2: I use the football.
34:07
Speaker 1: Analogy of we're taking a knee here to run out
34:10
Speaker 1: the clock, and I thought, my god, they must have
34:14
Speaker 1: enormous confidence. They must have internal polling that indicates that
34:18
Speaker 1: they really think they're gonna win. And maybe they bought
34:21
Speaker 1: into that bullshit Iowa poll that turned out to be
34:25
Speaker 1: totally wrong indicating that Harris was winning there. I don't know,
34:29
Speaker 1: but it's clear that the Harris campaign was indeed very confident.
34:34
Speaker 1: And the best example or evidence of that that I've
34:37
Speaker 1: seen post election came from an interesting.
34:40
Speaker 2: Woman by the name of Lindy Lee.
34:43
Speaker 1: And she's a Democratic activist, a strategist, a National Committee person. Frankly,
34:48
Speaker 1: I don't even understand why she's a Democrat because she
34:51
Speaker 1: sounds way too smart and way too rational. But she's
34:54
Speaker 1: an Asian immigrant, and you know, she's become very successful
34:59
Speaker 1: in life and big part of the Democratic Party elite.
35:04
Speaker 1: And she went on Fox News channel to do an
35:06
Speaker 1: interview with Will Kine, and she described how upset she
35:11
Speaker 1: is because she feels as if she was lied to
35:15
Speaker 1: about the state of the campaign, how likely they were
35:19
Speaker 1: to win, and what happened to all this money which
35:22
Speaker 1: she helped raise. And here's what that sounded like on
35:25
Speaker 1: Fox News Channel.
35:27
Speaker 5: Now, I am not on anyone's payroll. I'm not beholding
35:29
Speaker 5: to anyone. That's why I'm here telling the truth. I'm
35:32
Speaker 5: not here to gasla anybody. This is just the truth.
35:35
Speaker 2: It is the truth.
35:35
Speaker 5: The truth is the This is just an epic disaster.
35:39
Speaker 5: This is a one billion, one billion dollar disaster. Actually
35:43
Speaker 5: it was one billion, eighteen million I think right, they
35:45
Speaker 5: were a twenty million or twenty million or eighteen dollars
35:48
Speaker 5: in debt. It's incredible, and I raised millions of that.
35:51
Speaker 5: I have friends that I have to be accountable to
35:53
Speaker 5: and to explain what happened because I told them it
35:56
Speaker 5: was a margin of error race. I was promised General
35:59
Speaker 5: Mally Dillon promised all of us that Harris would win.
36:01
Speaker 5: She even put videos out saying that Harris would win.
36:04
Speaker 5: I believed her, My donors believed her, and so they
36:08
Speaker 5: wrote massive checks. I just I feel like a lot
36:11
Speaker 5: of us were misled. And even on the night of
36:13
Speaker 5: election night, Will I looked somebody in the eye and
36:16
Speaker 5: I said, are we going to do this? Are we
36:17
Speaker 5: going to pull it off. She told me yes, and
36:19
Speaker 5: I asked somebody else, like, how are you feeling. He's like,
36:22
Speaker 5: We're going to win Iowa.
36:24
Speaker 2: And I was like, did they believe this going in?
36:27
Speaker 6: Was there a real sense of false confidence on the
36:30
Speaker 6: side of Kamala Harris?
36:32
Speaker 2: What did they know they were in store for disaster?
36:35
Speaker 5: You know, I was wondering about that. I was like,
36:36
Speaker 5: are you I asked them, are you privated internal numbers
36:39
Speaker 5: that I am not seeing because I study this so
36:41
Speaker 5: carefully and I just wasn't seeing any basis for that
36:45
Speaker 5: level of confidence. And I also want to remind our
36:49
Speaker 5: viewers that, you know, the Trump campaign was touting all
36:52
Speaker 5: these incredible empirical data weeks before election night. What Harris
36:56
Speaker 5: is touting was the door knocking. She didn't say anything
36:59
Speaker 5: really about early voting, and now I know it's because
37:01
Speaker 5: there was nothing much to say.
37:03
Speaker 1: Now to me, that clip was fascinating on a couple
37:07
Speaker 1: different levels. One because it's the best indication that I've
37:11
Speaker 1: seen that the Harris campaign was clueless about what was
37:16
Speaker 1: really going on, that they really were that confident. And
37:19
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that comes from living in
37:21
Speaker 1: the liberal bubble. We saw a lot of elite Democrats
37:26
Speaker 1: and media personalities who were delusionally confident.
37:31
Speaker 2: About a Harris victory.
37:32
Speaker 1: Now, I predicted very very very very very marginally and
37:37
Speaker 1: with very small level of confidence, that she might eke
37:40
Speaker 1: out a two seventy two sixty eight victory. But in
37:44
Speaker 1: no way, shape or form was I won confident about it.
37:46
Speaker 2: I said, I wasn't confident about it. And two, in no.
37:49
Speaker 1: Way, shape or form that I ever think that she
37:51
Speaker 1: was going to win easily or in a blowout. I
37:53
Speaker 1: thought this was going to be incredibly tight and take
37:56
Speaker 1: maybe days to figure out who won, maybe even longer
38:00
Speaker 1: than that. Well, these people really truly believe, I mean
38:03
Speaker 1: the James Corvill's of the world, the Michael Mooores of
38:06
Speaker 1: the world who had previously predicted Trump's victory in twenty sixteen,
38:11
Speaker 1: Alan Lickman and his bullshit thirteen keys that he claims
38:14
Speaker 1: was always going to decide who the presidency was. That
38:17
Speaker 1: was hilarious to see him react to his entire career
38:21
Speaker 1: crashing down before his eyes, because he's such an arrogant
38:24
Speaker 1: asshole thinking that he has figured out how to predict
38:28
Speaker 1: presidential elections and he was completely wrong about this.
38:31
Speaker 2: One. But there were many, many people in this.
38:34
Speaker 1: Boat, many of them in the media, who were completely
38:37
Speaker 1: convinced that Harris was going to win. Well, I think
38:40
Speaker 1: that was because they believed their own bullshit. They were
38:43
Speaker 1: all in a bubble, and it's obvious that the bubble
38:47
Speaker 1: was being fueled by the Harris campaign itself. And so
38:53
Speaker 1: you know, obviously twenty twenty is hindsight, or hindsight's twenty twenty.
38:58
Speaker 1: There's a lot of points now to look back and go,
39:01
Speaker 1: what the hell were they thinking? And in fact myself
39:05
Speaker 1: I now look back and I go, Okay, I should
39:08
Speaker 1: have seen the signs, at least in Pennsylvania, my home state,
39:12
Speaker 1: where I thought that that was going to be the
39:15
Speaker 1: last state called. I thought it was going to be
39:17
Speaker 1: basically Florida two thousand and that I thought, partially because
39:21
Speaker 1: Josh Shapiro is the governor there and partially because Biden
39:26
Speaker 1: won there in twenty twenty, that Harris would pull it
39:29
Speaker 1: out despite numerous advantages that Trump had in twenty twenty
39:34
Speaker 1: four that he did not have in twenty twenty.
39:36
Speaker 2: Well, one very small data point that I thought about.
39:39
Speaker 1: In retrospect was I kept getting calls and texts, but
39:45
Speaker 1: actual phone calls from the Harris campaign in Pennsylvania. Now
39:54
Speaker 1: you're probably thinking, say, what the hell's that mean. I'm
39:56
Speaker 1: not talking about like you, having to do with content.
39:59
Speaker 1: I'm talking but somebody calling me to get me to
40:03
Speaker 1: vote for Harris, as if I was a Pennsylvania voter.
40:10
Speaker 2: And this didn't happen once or twice.
40:12
Speaker 1: This happened on numerous occasions, and I kept thinking.
40:17
Speaker 2: What the fuck are they doing.
40:19
Speaker 1: I haven't been a Pennsylvania voter since like at least
40:24
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety.
40:25
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a long fucking time.
40:28
Speaker 1: So if they're wasting first of all, if their data
40:31
Speaker 1: indicates that I'm a Pennsylvania voter and by the way,
40:34
Speaker 1: a potential Democrat Pennsylvania voter, and they're wasting time and
40:41
Speaker 1: energy and resources, even if it's a meager amount on me,
40:46
Speaker 1: then what does that say about their get out the
40:48
Speaker 1: vote operation that everyone thought was going to be so
40:51
Speaker 1: amazing that they touted so much and related to this
40:56
Speaker 1: and I actually tweeted about it at the time. The
40:59
Speaker 1: Harris campaign was bragging about their door knocking operation on
41:06
Speaker 1: weekends and they specifically it's really pretty funny.
41:11
Speaker 2: This is why I tweeted about it.
41:12
Speaker 1: They were bragging about their door knocking operation in Pennsylvania
41:19
Speaker 1: on a Saturday afternoon. They actually put out a public
41:24
Speaker 1: brag about this, And I'm thinking, do these morons not
41:29
Speaker 1: understand that they're doing this literally during the penn State
41:34
Speaker 1: Ohio State college football game, Penn State's biggest game of
41:38
Speaker 1: the year, and how many people they are going to
41:40
Speaker 1: annoy the hell out of By the way, people are
41:43
Speaker 1: always annoyed by door knocks now anyway, because it's so weird,
41:47
Speaker 1: We're so we're not, you know, used to people knocking
41:50
Speaker 1: on our door, So it's an inherent annoyance. And so
41:54
Speaker 1: they're gonna do this during the Penn State game. So
41:58
Speaker 1: in retrospect, the Harris campaign didn't know what the hell
42:02
Speaker 1: they were doing. If they're contacting me to be a
42:05
Speaker 1: Democratic presidential voter in Pennsylvania and they're doing door knocks
42:10
Speaker 1: during the Penn State Ohio State game, there's a problem there.
42:14
Speaker 1: And she ended up losing Pennsylvania by a larger margin
42:18
Speaker 1: then she lost, as it turns out, Michigan or Wisconsin.
42:23
Speaker 1: I'm going to get to momentarily, but there's been a
42:26
Speaker 1: little bit of a shift in the reality of the
42:29
Speaker 1: data since our last episode. Trump is still currently benefiting
42:33
Speaker 1: from the media. Once they buy into a narrative, they
42:36
Speaker 1: never let go of it. That's much more favorable to
42:40
Speaker 1: him than the actual results may warrant.
42:44
Speaker 2: But he ended up winning. Trump did Pennsylvania by about
42:47
Speaker 2: two percent, and he's.
42:48
Speaker 1: Going to end up winning Michigan and Wisconsin by less
42:52
Speaker 1: than one percent. Both Michigan and Wisconsin turned out to
42:56
Speaker 1: be really fairly close, much closer than even I thought
43:00
Speaker 1: was going to be the case when we did the
43:02
Speaker 1: last episode of the podcast. But what's the bottom line here?
43:06
Speaker 1: The bottom line is again using Knockhem's raisor simplest explanation
43:11
Speaker 1: is usually the correct one. Kamala Harris turned out to
43:15
Speaker 1: be new Coke. That was my initial reaction when she
43:19
Speaker 1: got the nomination. God, I hope she's going to turn
43:22
Speaker 1: into New Coke. It would be so fabulous to see
43:25
Speaker 1: all this effort by the news media to sell her
43:29
Speaker 1: as the greatest thing ever and for the public to
43:32
Speaker 1: just say, yeah, no thanks.
43:35
Speaker 2: And that's essentially what ended up happening.
43:38
Speaker 1: A billion dollars spend for almost no impact, an unprecedented
43:46
Speaker 1: amount of free media coverage that was glowing towards Kamala Harris,
43:52
Speaker 1: which was negative towards her opponent, and it had effectively
43:58
Speaker 1: no impact, no impact. They just couldn't sell the product.
44:04
Speaker 1: They just couldn't.
44:06
Speaker 2: It just took longer for this reality to.
44:12
Speaker 1: Come to come to fruition, this rejection to solidify than
44:17
Speaker 1: I had hoped or anticipated. I probably gave up on
44:21
Speaker 1: the new Coke theory too soon. If you recall I
44:24
Speaker 1: had the new Coke theory. Then the polls indicated that
44:27
Speaker 1: Harris had taken the lead, a fairly significant lead. Then
44:31
Speaker 1: she won the debate, and I'm thinking they might get
44:34
Speaker 1: away with this. They might be able to get her
44:36
Speaker 1: off the lot before she loses the new car smell
44:40
Speaker 1: is how I put it. Well, the more they put
44:43
Speaker 1: her out there, it seems as if the less it helped.
44:47
Speaker 1: I mean, they did everything they possibly could all of
44:50
Speaker 1: a sudden to change their philosophy of hiding her to
44:53
Speaker 1: getting her out there. And they spent a lot of
44:56
Speaker 1: money on this too. One of the more absurd things
44:59
Speaker 1: that was learned learned about the finances of the Harris
45:02
Speaker 1: campaign is that they spent over one hundred thousand dollars
45:06
Speaker 1: to build a set for the call Her Daddy Podcast
45:11
Speaker 1: because they wanted to do the interview in Washington, d C.
45:15
Speaker 1: And they wanted to make it look like the Call
45:16
Speaker 1: Her Daddy set, so they built the set in a
45:20
Speaker 1: hotel room at the cost of one hundred thousand dollars.
45:24
Speaker 1: This is how you spend a billion dollars and get
45:28
Speaker 1: basically almost nothing for it. And to Call Her Daddy podcast,
45:32
Speaker 1: which got a lot of publicity, there's no indication that
45:35
Speaker 1: it got all that many views, nowhere near, not even
45:38
Speaker 1: in the same universe as the number of views as
45:42
Speaker 1: the Joe Rogan interview that Donald Trump did got. So
45:47
Speaker 1: in my view, while it's certainly not the only explanation,
45:52
Speaker 1: there's always a ton of explanations here, and you know,
45:55
Speaker 1: it's very frustrating because people are always going to pick
45:57
Speaker 1: the explanations that fit their a gen to the most
46:01
Speaker 1: when it comes to why did something happen in an
46:05
Speaker 1: event that is this big? You know, why did my
46:08
Speaker 1: candidate lose? Well, let me tell you the things that
46:10
Speaker 1: will make me feel better or make me look better.
46:14
Speaker 1: There are a lot of them, a lot of them
46:15
Speaker 1: to have validity behind them. But to me, you got
46:19
Speaker 1: to start with Kamala Harris was New Cooke to a
46:23
Speaker 1: certain degree. Now, look, a large portion of the Democratic
46:27
Speaker 1: base totally bought into her and actually loved her candidacy.
46:32
Speaker 1: But you know, even in the Blue States, she did
46:35
Speaker 1: much worse, much worse than Joe Biden did in twenty twenty.
46:40
Speaker 1: In fact, that's really where Donald Trump made.
46:43
Speaker 2: Up almost all.
46:45
Speaker 1: Of his ground when it came to the popular vote.
46:48
Speaker 1: It was not in the swing states, it was not
46:51
Speaker 1: in the Red States. It was in the Blue States.
46:54
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of potential reasons for that. I
46:58
Speaker 1: still believe, although I had a date to come to
47:01
Speaker 1: this conclusion, because I'm aware enough about my own biases
47:04
Speaker 1: that this is something that I would love to believe.
47:07
Speaker 1: But I think that there's still a COVID residual effect,
47:12
Speaker 1: maybe a subconscious effect. By the way, we've seen that internationally.
47:15
Speaker 1: Internationally since COVID incumbents have lost everywhere, and when you
47:22
Speaker 1: look at some of the worst COVID states, including here
47:25
Speaker 1: in California, Trump did much better in twenty twenty four
47:29
Speaker 1: than he did in twenty twenty and California was not
47:32
Speaker 1: the only one. New York is another really good example
47:35
Speaker 1: of this. I think at least subconsciously, COVID had to
47:40
Speaker 1: have an impact there, and I think it's somewhat similar
47:43
Speaker 1: in my mind to the New Coke effect, with Kamala
47:48
Speaker 1: Harris taking longer than I anticipated. Well, it took longer
47:52
Speaker 1: for people to realize, you know what, we overreacted on COVID.
47:56
Speaker 1: You know what, COVID is why we have all this inflation.
48:00
Speaker 1: You know what, It was mostly the Democrats that were
48:02
Speaker 1: responsible for what we did there, and that was really
48:06
Speaker 1: that was a pretty big mistake, and at least subconsciously,
48:09
Speaker 1: I think it hurt the Democrat brand, especially when it
48:14
Speaker 1: came to Democrat incumbents. I mean, look, we're never going
48:18
Speaker 1: to know for sure, but I think there's something to that,
48:21
Speaker 1: although I acknowledge I want there to be something to that,
48:25
Speaker 1: so I'm not as confident in that analysis.
48:28
Speaker 2: But going back to.
48:29
Speaker 1: The people who deserve blame, and I deserve blame for
48:34
Speaker 1: leaving this person off of my loser's list from the
48:38
Speaker 1: last episode of the podcast, I did an extensive list
48:41
Speaker 1: of winners and losers, at least preliminarily in the aftermath
48:45
Speaker 1: of the election results, and stupidly I did not mention
48:50
Speaker 1: Barack Obama. So because I think in the bigger, bigger picture,
48:54
Speaker 1: and the smaller picture, the more immediate picture, Kamala Harris
48:58
Speaker 1: is mostly to blame here. I think in the bigger picture,
49:02
Speaker 1: it's actually Barack Obama, and Barack Obama is absolutely one
49:06
Speaker 1: of the biggest losers in this whole situation from a
49:10
Speaker 1: number of different respectives. Effectively, Barack Obama's presidency is now
49:15
Speaker 1: finally over. It is over, and it is now going
49:20
Speaker 1: to be seen, at least by rational people as largely
49:25
Speaker 1: a failure. Even though he got two terms. You could
49:28
Speaker 1: argue he got a third term with Joe Biden. In
49:31
Speaker 1: the end, it was largely a failure. It's over now
49:36
Speaker 1: because if Harris had been elected, you could argue that
49:41
Speaker 1: that's an extension. You'll think about this as a a
49:44
Speaker 1: football coach, Bill Belichick or Nick Saban, they talk about
49:48
Speaker 1: the coaching tree, Well, Harris would be under the Obama tree,
49:53
Speaker 1: right because Joe Biden was his vice president, and then
49:58
Speaker 1: Harris was picked by Biden to be vice president. So
50:01
Speaker 1: it's all still under the tree. And Harris is kind
50:04
Speaker 1: of an Obama like figure demographically, although obviously she did
50:08
Speaker 1: not have his kind of charisma or speaking ability or
50:12
Speaker 1: magic at some point.
50:14
Speaker 2: But we now know that the Obama magic is gone.
50:17
Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to get blamed on a number
50:19
Speaker 1: of levels here, by least by rational people.
50:22
Speaker 2: The scolding of black.
50:23
Speaker 1: Men for not getting on board with Kama obviously did
50:26
Speaker 1: not work.
50:27
Speaker 2: It may have even backfired with.
50:29
Speaker 1: Twenty five percent of blackmails in Georgia voting for Donald Trump.
50:34
Speaker 1: So Obama, his presidency is over, his magic is gone.
50:40
Speaker 1: He could not positively impact this election for Democrats. But
50:45
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in the way presidential politics works
50:50
Speaker 1: that you know, I just used a football analogy. You know,
50:53
Speaker 1: the way college football used to work is that these
50:56
Speaker 1: things turned over generationally because tradition mattered so much, history
51:01
Speaker 1: mattered so much. What you did ten twenty years ago
51:04
Speaker 1: still had an impact on recruiting and who came to
51:07
Speaker 1: your school and how many resources you had.
51:09
Speaker 2: That's part of what made college football great before.
51:12
Speaker 1: This new crazy era of instant free agency and nil.
51:17
Speaker 2: And you know, it's basically professional sports.
51:20
Speaker 1: Well, to use that analogy on presidential politics, what you
51:24
Speaker 1: do in any one cycle, especially if it's a particularly
51:29
Speaker 1: impactful cycle, matters for decades. And I think you could argue,
51:34
Speaker 1: and I've been saying this for a long time that
51:38
Speaker 1: while Democrats benefited hugely in the short run from the
51:43
Speaker 1: Barack Obama presidency, they are now suffering in the long run,
51:48
Speaker 1: and the reasons for that are as follows. Number one,
51:52
Speaker 1: he was such a huge star, a superstar, a godlike figure,
51:59
Speaker 1: that he locked out the sun almost literally, there was
52:04
Speaker 1: no ability for any Democratic bench to grow because they
52:10
Speaker 1: couldn't get any sunlight. They got no media attention, no oxygen.
52:17
Speaker 1: He was the moon, the stars, the sun, he was everything.
52:23
Speaker 1: And there's a price to pay for that. And the
52:26
Speaker 1: price they paid for that In twenty sixteen, when Obama
52:31
Speaker 1: chose Hillary to be his successor as the nominee, not
52:37
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, this was a huge decision that in the
52:41
Speaker 1: short run, when you know, at least a semi short
52:45
Speaker 1: I guess you call it the medium run turned out
52:47
Speaker 1: to be okay for Democrats because Biden somehow came back
52:51
Speaker 1: four years later and won the presidency entry it basically
52:55
Speaker 1: retired because Obama sent him into retirement t he's sixteen
53:02
Speaker 1: by making it clear he was going to support Hillary
53:05
Speaker 1: to be the nominee. Well, that was obviously a huge
53:09
Speaker 1: mistake because Hillary lost and So then once Hillary's gone,
53:16
Speaker 1: Democrats still have no bench because of Obama blocking out
53:21
Speaker 1: the sun, well, that forces them to go to the old,
53:25
Speaker 1: decrepit Joe Biden, and partially because of the COVID panic,
53:29
Speaker 1: he ends up winning, which looks like Wow, Democrats have
53:34
Speaker 1: survived this, but they still had to pay for that
53:37
Speaker 1: original sin, and that original sin was Obama not allowing
53:43
Speaker 1: anybody else to be a viable candidate. So they had
53:47
Speaker 1: to kept going, to keep going back to the pre
53:50
Speaker 1: Obama era, to the old people, the Hillary Clinton and
53:54
Speaker 1: then the Joe Biden, and then Biden ran out of gas.
53:58
Speaker 1: And when Biden ran out of gas, nobody had the
54:02
Speaker 1: balls and Obama didn't have the balls, or maybe he
54:06
Speaker 1: didn't have the influence. Who knows, because there's arguments to
54:10
Speaker 1: be made that maybe Biden Obama, you know, have some problems.
54:14
Speaker 1: I don't know that you could argue that Biden would
54:18
Speaker 1: still feel jypped, you know, from the standpoint of the
54:21
Speaker 1: fact that Obama shows Hillary in twenty sixteen.
54:24
Speaker 2: But okay, regardless whether.
54:26
Speaker 1: It was lack of influence or lack of balls, Obama
54:29
Speaker 1: did not tell Biden to get the hell out of
54:32
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four campaign, and so that led them
54:37
Speaker 1: into a situation where there was no way out. There
54:41
Speaker 1: was They tried. They tried real hard, and the media
54:44
Speaker 1: tried real, real hard, and they thought, because Trump was
54:46
Speaker 1: the opponent.
54:47
Speaker 2: That they had a shot at this. And even I
54:49
Speaker 2: thought they had a.
54:50
Speaker 1: Shot at pulling this off barely, but I thought they
54:54
Speaker 1: had a shot. Well, it turned out they didn't because
54:59
Speaker 1: there can was too awful. And I would like to
55:02
Speaker 1: believe that enough people realized that the whole Biden coup
55:07
Speaker 1: and switch rou was a scam that made them uncomfortable
55:11
Speaker 1: enough to either vote for Trump or not vote at all.
55:16
Speaker 1: Because in the non swing states, the Democrats did not
55:21
Speaker 1: turn out for Harris. Now that's why Trump was going
55:24
Speaker 1: to win the popular vote. Now, that didn't impact who
55:27
Speaker 1: ended up winning, because we live in the world where
55:29
Speaker 1: obviously the electoral college dictates everything, and there were only
55:32
Speaker 1: seven states that mattered, and in the three states that
55:36
Speaker 1: were most important to Harris, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, they
55:41
Speaker 1: did turn out. It's just that Trump got a larger turnout,
55:44
Speaker 1: and his turnout was actually larger than it was in
55:48
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. So there's a lot of blame to go around.
55:53
Speaker 1: I think Barack Obama deserves a hell of a lot
55:55
Speaker 1: more than he's getting. I think Hillary deserves a lot
55:58
Speaker 1: more than he's getting. I think BELOWSI deserves more that
56:01
Speaker 1: she's getting. I think Biden deserves more than she's getting.
56:04
Speaker 1: But this is a long time in coming, a long
56:08
Speaker 1: time in coming.
56:09
Speaker 2: Now what actually happened.
56:11
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the results before we get
56:13
Speaker 1: into some of the more specific examples of media insanity.
56:18
Speaker 2: The results are a little bit.
56:20
Speaker 1: Different than I talked about in the last episode of
56:24
Speaker 1: the podcast. Not a lot, just a little bit. I
56:27
Speaker 1: do not want to take anything away from Trump's victory.
56:29
Speaker 2: It's a huge win. It's bigger than I expected.
56:33
Speaker 1: If you had told me that he was going to
56:35
Speaker 1: win the popular vote by almost two percent and maybe
56:41
Speaker 1: get to fifty percent, I would not have believed that.
56:45
Speaker 2: I never thought that was possible.
56:46
Speaker 1: We did discuss the chance that I thought was reasonable
56:51
Speaker 1: that Trump could win the popular vote barely, and that
56:54
Speaker 1: there was even a scenario where he could win the
56:56
Speaker 1: popular vote and lose the electoral college.
57:00
Speaker 2: That was theoretically possible.
57:01
Speaker 1: But I do not, in any way, shape or form,
57:04
Speaker 1: want to crap on Trump's victory, especially since I'm perceived
57:09
Speaker 1: as an anti Trump guy who margely predicted a Harris
57:14
Speaker 1: win with by two electoral College folks in basically the
57:17
Speaker 1: closest election that would have been in the history of America.
57:21
Speaker 2: So I'm not doing that.
57:22
Speaker 1: But I'm also a truth guy, and the truth is
57:27
Speaker 1: that this victory is not quite as impressive as it
57:32
Speaker 1: was looking like it was a few days ago. Now
57:35
Speaker 1: there's some promising demographic ships towards the Republican Party that
57:39
Speaker 1: Trump has facilitated, specifically among blacks and Latinos and certain
57:45
Speaker 1: other demographics. But this idea that this was a resounding
57:50
Speaker 1: victory by Trump is a little bit of a mirage.
57:55
Speaker 1: As I've already said, he's benefiting a little bit from
57:59
Speaker 1: this idea that the media loves to latch onto a narrative.
58:02
Speaker 1: They need to do so quickly, and once they do,
58:05
Speaker 1: it's very difficult.
58:06
Speaker 2: For them to turn back.
58:08
Speaker 1: And the reality is that the votes that have been
58:11
Speaker 1: counted in the last several days are almost all from California,
58:15
Speaker 1: and so Trump's popular vote.
58:18
Speaker 2: Victory is much less impressive than it was.
58:21
Speaker 1: It looks like it may dip below Trump getting fifty
58:25
Speaker 1: percent Nick Nate Silver is claiming it's going to be
58:28
Speaker 1: forty nine point nine percent.
58:30
Speaker 2: I do think that matters, by the way.
58:32
Speaker 1: I do think psychologically it would be beneficial for Trump
58:36
Speaker 1: if he could hang on to that fifty percent number.
58:39
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance he could still end up
58:41
Speaker 1: at fifty percent, but he's probably going to win the
58:44
Speaker 1: popular vote by by less than two percent. It might
58:47
Speaker 1: be closer to a point and a half. And so
58:51
Speaker 1: that's impressive. Again, I'm not gonna take anything away from it,
58:54
Speaker 1: but it's not quite as impressive as it looked.
58:57
Speaker 2: And as I've already stated, in the key blue.
59:00
Speaker 1: Wall states, I mean, Harris actually came darn close in
59:06
Speaker 1: Michigan and Wisconsin. If the black vote in Michigan had
59:11
Speaker 1: been as dominant for Harris as it was for Biden
59:17
Speaker 1: and Obama previously, she probably would have won in Michigan
59:21
Speaker 1: and Wisconsin. For the third strade cycle, it almost doesn't
59:25
Speaker 1: matter who the candidates are, it's.
59:27
Speaker 2: Going to be right on a razor's edge.
59:30
Speaker 1: And Trump barely won Wisconsin, he barely won Michigan, and
59:34
Speaker 1: you know, he won Pennsylvania by a fairly healthy margin.
59:37
Speaker 1: A little bit looks like over two percentage points, and
59:42
Speaker 1: it looks like by the way, that carried the Republican
59:45
Speaker 1: senatorial candidate McCormick to an upset victory there in the Senate,
59:49
Speaker 1: which is going to be very very key should it
59:52
Speaker 1: hold up, which it looks like it will. He's been
59:55
Speaker 1: declared the winner. But the Democrats, Bob Casey are not
59:59
Speaker 1: gon as of this taping, which is interesting for the
1:00:02
Speaker 1: party that is against election denial. But I digress. The
1:00:06
Speaker 1: reality is that a little bit of what Trump did
1:00:09
Speaker 1: here was pull off a mirage because the non swing states,
1:00:14
Speaker 1: the blue states, had a lower turnout for Harris for
1:00:18
Speaker 1: whatever reason, and Trump. You know, let's face it, if
1:00:21
Speaker 1: you're living in a state like California in New York,
1:00:23
Speaker 1: right and you know Harris is going to win your state,
1:00:29
Speaker 1: you may not decide to vote, especially if you're not
1:00:31
Speaker 1: that enthusiastic about her, because your vote doesn't really matter
1:00:34
Speaker 1: that much. But if you're a Trump fan, you have
1:00:39
Speaker 1: almost no opportunity to express your support for Trump and
1:00:44
Speaker 1: your opposition to the Democrats. So you're going to be
1:00:48
Speaker 1: much more motivated to vote to express your disdain for
1:00:54
Speaker 1: the establishment, for the status quo. And I think we
1:00:58
Speaker 1: saw some of that in California, all that in New York,
1:01:01
Speaker 1: maybe some other Blue states. I think there could be
1:01:04
Speaker 1: again a COVID effect there going on as well. But
1:01:07
Speaker 1: the Blue state turnout was down, I think largely because
1:01:11
Speaker 1: people looked at this campaign.
1:01:14
Speaker 2: First of all, Harris was terrible, and two all the
1:01:17
Speaker 2: focuses on seven states.
1:01:18
Speaker 1: Well, because this was more the case this year than
1:01:22
Speaker 1: any other year in my recollection, I don't think we've
1:01:25
Speaker 1: ever had a presidential campaign that so clearly focused only
1:01:31
Speaker 1: on the swing states because we used to pretend that
1:01:34
Speaker 1: it was a national election, even though people knew that
1:01:36
Speaker 1: the swing states would decide the electoral college, but because
1:01:39
Speaker 1: it was Trump's third go around, were so positive that
1:01:45
Speaker 1: these were the states that we're going to decide it.
1:01:47
Speaker 1: I do think that there might have been some apathy
1:01:49
Speaker 1: and then nons swing states. And by the way, that
1:01:55
Speaker 1: was accurate. Those seven states were the only states that
1:01:58
Speaker 1: were really in question. I get a lot of flack
1:02:01
Speaker 1: for being wrong in my prediction. Yet the people on
1:02:04
Speaker 1: the Trump side that predicted it he would win Virginia
1:02:08
Speaker 1: or in New Hampshire or New Jersey, they don't get
1:02:10
Speaker 1: any flack because he ended up winning well. Trump didn't
1:02:13
Speaker 1: win any non swing states. I mean that would have been,
1:02:17
Speaker 1: you know, an indication of a landslide, of a shocking
1:02:20
Speaker 1: win if he won someplace where he was not expected
1:02:24
Speaker 1: to have a fifty to fifty or thereabouts shot.
1:02:27
Speaker 2: Well, he did not do that.
1:02:29
Speaker 1: Again, I'm not in any way shape or for him
1:02:32
Speaker 1: diminishing the victory because the victory was big, it's significant.
1:02:36
Speaker 1: It could change America forever, hopefully in a good direction.
1:02:41
Speaker 1: I'm very skeptical, but open to that possibility.
1:02:45
Speaker 2: We'll see.
1:02:47
Speaker 1: I'm also very concerned about where this might go. But
1:02:50
Speaker 1: the reality is it was a big win, bigger than expected,
1:02:53
Speaker 1: but probably not as big as being portrayed, and certainly
1:02:58
Speaker 1: not as big as the reception inside the Trump cult
1:03:03
Speaker 1: because you know, like I said, he's going to be
1:03:06
Speaker 1: lucky to get fifty percent of the popular vote. And
1:03:09
Speaker 1: if you look at this compared to twenty twenty, which
1:03:12
Speaker 1: a lot of people are doing in a very screwed
1:03:14
Speaker 1: up way. I'm going to get to that momentarily. Really,
1:03:17
Speaker 1: this was just the inverse of the twenty twenty election.
1:03:20
Speaker 1: People don't realize that, you know, about forty five thousand
1:03:24
Speaker 1: votes go the other direction in three key states of Georgia, Arizona,
1:03:29
Speaker 1: and Wisconsin. We have a two sixty nine two sixty
1:03:33
Speaker 1: nine tie. In twenty twenty, it goes to the House
1:03:35
Speaker 1: representatives and Trump wins. So even though it appeared popular
1:03:41
Speaker 1: vote wise, Biden won in a basically a blowout four
1:03:44
Speaker 1: and a half percent, and he won by a large
1:03:46
Speaker 1: margin in the electoral college in twenty twenty, it could
1:03:50
Speaker 1: have gone the other way much more easily. Then people realize,
1:03:54
Speaker 1: even people in the media have no idea, I mean
1:03:57
Speaker 1: that this is the reality. Even I took a long
1:03:59
Speaker 1: time to realize that it was as close as it
1:04:02
Speaker 1: was theoretically in the electoral college. Well, twenty twenty four
1:04:06
Speaker 1: is basically a flip of that. You just take the
1:04:10
Speaker 1: three blue Wall states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, in Wisconsin, and
1:04:16
Speaker 1: it's more votes than Trump would have had to flip
1:04:18
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty.
1:04:19
Speaker 2: But it's basically a very large college.
1:04:23
Speaker 1: Football stadium difference, which is not insignificant.
1:04:27
Speaker 2: But in the you know, in the scheme of.
1:04:29
Speaker 1: A massive country with three hundred plus million people in it,
1:04:33
Speaker 1: it's it's not all that many. So it's within the
1:04:36
Speaker 1: realm of possibility that I think it's like one hundred
1:04:40
Speaker 1: and seventy five thousand votes in those three states. They
1:04:44
Speaker 1: go the other direction and Harris wins by exactly the
1:04:48
Speaker 1: margin I said that she would have won by two
1:04:51
Speaker 1: seventy to two sixty eight.
1:04:52
Speaker 2: Again, Trump won. I'm not diminishing that, but if.
1:04:57
Speaker 1: You're trying to figure out the truth of this and
1:04:59
Speaker 1: what actually happened, and it was pretty close, not as
1:05:04
Speaker 1: close as twenty twenty could have been from the electoral
1:05:07
Speaker 1: college perspective, but you know, it was less than an
1:05:10
Speaker 1: average of one percent difference. If you take Pennsylvania, Michigan,
1:05:14
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. Trump on average won those three states by
1:05:18
Speaker 1: about one percent, maybe slightly less than that, which, you know,
1:05:23
Speaker 1: if you're trying to vindicate the polling is within the
1:05:26
Speaker 1: margin of error what the polls were saying was going
1:05:29
Speaker 1: to happen in those three states. But there's been a
1:05:32
Speaker 1: lot of talk that's really been frustrating to me about
1:05:36
Speaker 1: comparing the twenty twenty results to the twenty twenty four results.
1:05:40
Speaker 1: And I don't know why I'm so stupid as to
1:05:44
Speaker 1: wade into this stuff, because I know it's hopeless, especially
1:05:48
Speaker 1: given the fact that that Trumpsters are riding high from
1:05:52
Speaker 1: their second miraculous presidential victory. And you know, I'm somebody
1:05:56
Speaker 1: who marginally predicted the Harris victory, So I get that
1:06:00
Speaker 1: I cannot possibly win this argument, even if the logic
1:06:04
Speaker 1: and the data is on my side. But I'm still
1:06:08
Speaker 1: gonna at least mention it because it's what I do.
1:06:12
Speaker 1: I'm a truth guy, and I can't stand when bullshit narratives,
1:06:16
Speaker 1: especially from people that I would consider normally to be
1:06:19
Speaker 1: on my side, are promoting something that is obviously not.
1:06:23
Speaker 2: True and is obviously, I.
1:06:25
Speaker 1: Think, very damaging to the trust in our system, and
1:06:30
Speaker 1: it's not productive. I think it's actually counterproductive. But what
1:06:33
Speaker 1: I'm referring to is this incredibly popular idea that we
1:06:38
Speaker 1: can look at the twenty twenty vote total results, compare
1:06:42
Speaker 1: them to twenty twenty four, and make an argument that Aha,
1:06:47
Speaker 1: once again, Trump, our almighty leader, was right. The election
1:06:54
Speaker 1: was stolen from him in twenty twenty. And the reason
1:06:57
Speaker 1: why we know this is because there were so fewer
1:07:00
Speaker 1: votes cast in twenty twenty four, and what happened to
1:07:04
Speaker 1: these millions and millions of missing votes from twenty twenty.
1:07:09
Speaker 1: Obviously there's no other explanation than for those votes to
1:07:14
Speaker 1: have been fake. They must have been manufactured votes in
1:07:19
Speaker 1: an election that was rigged. This is why Joe Biden
1:07:22
Speaker 1: got eighty one million votes more, much higher total than
1:07:25
Speaker 1: any other presidential candidate had ever gotten in history. And
1:07:29
Speaker 1: that man never made any sense to the Trump fans.
1:07:32
Speaker 1: It's not possible. And so therefore we're gonna look at
1:07:36
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four results and we're gonna see, Aha.
1:07:39
Speaker 2: There's all these missing votes.
1:07:42
Speaker 1: The only logical explanation is twenty twenty was rigged against
1:07:48
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Now, you know, there's a million reasons why
1:07:51
Speaker 1: this is a problematic theory. One of which I would
1:07:55
Speaker 1: suggest is, so you're telling me that Donald Trump, as
1:07:59
Speaker 1: an incumbent resident, had an election stolen from him, partially
1:08:03
Speaker 1: in Republican states, but four years later, when he's not
1:08:09
Speaker 1: an incumbent president and he's a convicted felon, they decide
1:08:13
Speaker 1: not to steal the election from him. Okay, fine, whatever,
1:08:17
Speaker 1: But I'm just there's a whole host of other reasons
1:08:20
Speaker 1: why this is a crack pot theory.
1:08:22
Speaker 2: But I'm just going to deal with the vote totals.
1:08:24
Speaker 1: I'm just going to make this as simple as possible,
1:08:26
Speaker 1: because to me, this conspiracy theory doesn't even get out
1:08:31
Speaker 1: of the batter's box. But whyatt has, in perception not
1:08:35
Speaker 1: only gotten out of the batter's box, but it's basically
1:08:37
Speaker 1: rounding third and heading for home is because people like
1:08:42
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan and Trump himself and Elon Musk are all
1:08:48
Speaker 1: promoting it using a chart that has been shared I
1:08:53
Speaker 1: don't know millions of times on Twitter and social media
1:08:57
Speaker 1: showing that there's like fifteen or I don't remember exactly
1:09:01
Speaker 1: what the number is, but at least fifteen to twenty
1:09:03
Speaker 1: million fewer votes in twenty twenty four than there was
1:09:08
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. Now, if that was true, I would go, Okay, wow,
1:09:14
Speaker 1: that's really something that deserves an explanation. Wouldn't prove that
1:09:17
Speaker 1: twenty twenty was fraudulent or stolen, but I would one
1:09:21
Speaker 1: hundred percent agree that that is that's crazy. I mean,
1:09:24
Speaker 1: the COVID rules and the COVID environment don't explain that
1:09:29
Speaker 1: level of disparity. But there's a massive problem here, and
1:09:34
Speaker 1: it's an obvious, massive problem. Before I get to that, though,
1:09:37
Speaker 1: I want to prove to you just how popular this
1:09:40
Speaker 1: theory is and how Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan is very
1:09:43
Speaker 1: frustrating to me, because you know, he's not a particularly
1:09:46
Speaker 1: bright guy, but he's got a really good gut.
1:09:49
Speaker 2: And he's easily manipulated by.
1:09:51
Speaker 1: Bad data or bad facts, because he'll take a bad
1:09:56
Speaker 1: fact and he'll fact and he'll run with it and
1:09:58
Speaker 1: come to, you know, all a wrong conclusion. You know,
1:10:02
Speaker 1: when he has good facts, I think he actually has
1:10:06
Speaker 1: a pretty darn good gut. Sometimes he's right even when
1:10:10
Speaker 1: he has the wrong facts. I have a mother in
1:10:12
Speaker 1: law who's like this, who really doesn't know any of
1:10:14
Speaker 1: the facts, but she's generally right about whatever the topic
1:10:19
Speaker 1: may be. There's just people that are like this, and
1:10:21
Speaker 1: Rogan is one of them. But oftentimes he gets led
1:10:24
Speaker 1: down the wrong path because he buys into because he's
1:10:28
Speaker 1: conspiracy minded, that he buys into bad facts that are popular,
1:10:34
Speaker 1: that are.
1:10:35
Speaker 2: Appealing to people.
1:10:36
Speaker 1: It's appealing to the Trump fan to be able to say, well, see, look,
1:10:40
Speaker 1: this proves that twenty twenty really was stolen. So here's
1:10:44
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan on his extremely popular podcast discussing this issue
1:10:50
Speaker 1: of comparing the votes in twenty twenty four to what
1:10:54
Speaker 1: happened in twenty twenty and this very popular chart that's
1:10:57
Speaker 1: been going around supposed to be proving that there's these
1:11:00
Speaker 1: missing fifteen million or so votes. And here's what it
1:11:04
Speaker 1: sounded like on Joe Rogan's podcast.
1:11:07
Speaker 6: Hey Jamie, I'm hearing more and more about what we
1:11:09
Speaker 6: talked about yesterday about the amount of people that voted
1:11:12
Speaker 6: for Biden in twenty twenty versus the amount of people
1:11:15
Speaker 6: that voted for anybody in twenty sixteen and for anybody
1:11:20
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty four. That they're still saying it was
1:11:23
Speaker 6: a giant jumps.
1:11:25
Speaker 2: That's what I see too.
1:11:26
Speaker 6: A lot of people think it's bullshit. Could be there's
1:11:29
Speaker 6: a lot of people that are getting super suspicious about
1:11:31
Speaker 6: the twenty twenty numbers because Biden got more votes than
1:11:36
Speaker 6: anybody by like twenty million. It's really crazy if you
1:11:39
Speaker 6: look at the chart.
1:11:40
Speaker 1: Well did yeah, did they say that the most people
1:11:43
Speaker 1: they'd ever seen at voting stations were this year?
1:11:46
Speaker 5: Yeah?
1:11:47
Speaker 2: That's what Now.
1:11:48
Speaker 1: There's at least one very very very large problem, and
1:11:53
Speaker 1: it's very obvious, very large problem with what Joe Rogan
1:11:58
Speaker 1: is selling there, and that is that we have not
1:12:02
Speaker 1: counted anywhere near all the votes yet. And everyone knows
1:12:07
Speaker 1: this except I guess for the conspiracy theorists. They think,
1:12:12
Speaker 1: I guess because the election was called that that means
1:12:16
Speaker 1: we stop counting votes. Unfortunately, and bizarrely and frankly, without
1:12:22
Speaker 1: explanation to me, there are many states, California most prominently
1:12:27
Speaker 1: among them, that take weeks to count all their votes weeks.
1:12:34
Speaker 1: California is the most populist state in the country by far,
1:12:41
Speaker 1: by far, And when that chart was created and went viral,
1:12:47
Speaker 1: I don't know what the exact percentage of votes counted
1:12:50
Speaker 1: in California was, but it wasn't more than say, fifty percent.
1:12:56
Speaker 1: I don't know in California is not the only state
1:12:59
Speaker 1: still counting vote. So the reality is that this whole
1:13:04
Speaker 1: narrative is based on a fraud.
1:13:07
Speaker 2: It's a total fraud.
1:13:08
Speaker 1: Forget about the substance of arguments you could make and
1:13:11
Speaker 1: I've made, about why and how we know the twenty
1:13:14
Speaker 1: twenty election was not stolen, quote unquote. By the way,
1:13:17
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election may not have been legitimate. There
1:13:21
Speaker 1: are all sorts of problems. The entire narrative of it
1:13:25
Speaker 1: was the COVID panic, and the rules for the election
1:13:29
Speaker 1: were dictated by the COVID panic.
1:13:32
Speaker 2: So I have no problem.
1:13:33
Speaker 1: With people saying, you know what, Democrats manipulated the system
1:13:38
Speaker 1: in order to generate a victory to get rid of
1:13:41
Speaker 1: Trump using COVID as a weapon. I have one hundred
1:13:45
Speaker 1: percent agree with that one hundred percent. But that's not
1:13:48
Speaker 1: the same thing as saying that the election was stolen,
1:13:51
Speaker 1: that there was actual fake votes, that there's no evidence
1:13:56
Speaker 1: to me of that happening in a widespread fashion that
1:13:59
Speaker 1: dictates the result, and the data that we have for
1:14:03
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four in no way, shape or form
1:14:06
Speaker 1: comes close to proving otherwise. And when it all is
1:14:11
Speaker 1: said and done, Nate Silver, who you know, like myself,
1:14:15
Speaker 1: is imperfect when it comes to predicting what will happen, is.
1:14:19
Speaker 2: Actually really good at the math when it.
1:14:22
Speaker 1: Comes to figuring out what did already happen, And he
1:14:27
Speaker 1: is projecting that when it's all over with, twenty twenty
1:14:31
Speaker 1: four is going to have about a million, maybe a
1:14:34
Speaker 1: little bit more than a million fewer votes cast than
1:14:39
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, which is statistically irrelevant when you consider,
1:14:46
Speaker 1: you know, how many one hundred and sixty million are
1:14:49
Speaker 1: there about votes being cast. That's not a significant number.
1:14:54
Speaker 1: And when you look at the fact that the lower
1:14:57
Speaker 1: turnout numbers are all in these non competitive the blue states,
1:15:03
Speaker 1: and not in the swing states.
1:15:05
Speaker 2: This makes perfect sense.
1:15:07
Speaker 1: It's way way within the realm of what you would
1:15:12
Speaker 1: expect from variants in turnout. I mean, frankly, that's small
1:15:17
Speaker 1: in number in a country this large is basically based
1:15:21
Speaker 1: upon which direction the wind blows. But you could come
1:15:23
Speaker 1: up with all sorts of rational arguments about how the
1:15:27
Speaker 1: COVID voting rules were different and easier.
1:15:29
Speaker 2: There was more mail in voting.
1:15:31
Speaker 1: The atmosphere, the environment was completely different. People were much
1:15:35
Speaker 1: more pissed off in both directions. You had the BLM situation,
1:15:40
Speaker 1: which was certainly you know, I believe energizing the black vote.
1:15:46
Speaker 2: So there's all sorts of reasons why.
1:15:49
Speaker 1: You might get a million or so, maybe even two
1:15:51
Speaker 1: million at most more votes in twenty twenty then you
1:15:55
Speaker 1: got in twenty twenty four. But it's not evidence so
1:16:00
Speaker 1: facto of twenty twenty being rigged.
1:16:03
Speaker 2: Yet, you know what, no.
1:16:05
Speaker 1: One's going to change their minds when the actual vote
1:16:08
Speaker 1: totals come in. Nobody is going to change their mind
1:16:11
Speaker 1: It's very frustrated to me. I actually tweeted this, I said,
1:16:14
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to all the conspiracy theorists publicly
1:16:18
Speaker 1: stating that they were apologizing for being so wrong and
1:16:21
Speaker 1: jumping to conclusions about these vote totals, because that's not
1:16:25
Speaker 1: going to happen.
1:16:27
Speaker 2: We don't live in that world anymore. This is going
1:16:28
Speaker 2: to be an issue that will be hopefully at best forgotten.
1:16:33
Speaker 1: I'm actually fearful that people will never even acknowledge the
1:16:36
Speaker 1: final vote totals, but you know, because that's the crazy
1:16:40
Speaker 1: world we live in, especially in the Trump cult. Now,
1:16:43
Speaker 1: speaking of narratives about the election results that are false,
1:16:47
Speaker 1: I've already touched on a couple. One Trump's victory not
1:16:49
Speaker 1: quite as impressive as currently being perceived, and twenty twenty
1:16:56
Speaker 1: no evidence that there was a massive number of votes
1:17:00
Speaker 1: that were missing from twenty twenty four, and trying to
1:17:04
Speaker 1: prove that twenty twenty was stolen. There's another, much more
1:17:08
Speaker 1: minor narrative, but I don't think it's irrelevant, And I
1:17:13
Speaker 1: actually hate the bunking this one because I love this narrative,
1:17:16
Speaker 1: but I at least want to address it because I
1:17:18
Speaker 1: think it might have a larger implication for at least
1:17:21
Speaker 1: how I view certain personalities involved in this. But there's
1:17:26
Speaker 1: a narrative out there that Pennsylvania was one for Trump,
1:17:31
Speaker 1: at least in part because of the Amish community, that
1:17:35
Speaker 1: the Amish community came out in big numbers for Donald Trump,
1:17:39
Speaker 1: because the Trump campaign and some including by the way,
1:17:44
Speaker 1: Elon Musk, has talked about this publicly, and it appears
1:17:47
Speaker 1: as if I don't know if Musk directly supported this
1:17:50
Speaker 1: effort or indirectly, but he was certainly aware of it
1:17:53
Speaker 1: and he touted it as being significant. But there was
1:17:57
Speaker 1: some civilian efforts on the on the on behalf of
1:18:02
Speaker 1: the Trump campaign to get the Amish engaged because they
1:18:06
Speaker 1: had just been screwed over by the federal government when
1:18:10
Speaker 1: it came to milk pasteurization, and and so there was
1:18:15
Speaker 1: apparently an effort, which I'm all in favor of. That's fine,
1:18:19
Speaker 1: to get the Amish, who supposedly don't normally vote, which
1:18:22
Speaker 1: I'm not sure is actually true, but that's the that's
1:18:25
Speaker 1: the narrative being put forward there to get them to
1:18:28
Speaker 1: come out for Donald Trump. And boy did people latch.
1:18:32
Speaker 2: Onto this narrative. I mean, I've seen so many.
1:18:35
Speaker 1: Different social media videos of people, you know, championing the
1:18:41
Speaker 1: Homish is those that saved the day for America and
1:18:44
Speaker 1: came in to vote against Harris and to vote for
1:18:48
Speaker 1: Trump and to to save the day. And that's why
1:18:52
Speaker 1: Trump won Pennsylvania. It's just not true. It's it's not
1:18:57
Speaker 1: even close.
1:18:58
Speaker 2: All you have to.
1:18:59
Speaker 1: Do, which I did and I tweeted out, is take
1:19:02
Speaker 1: a look at the results from twenty twenty and twenty
1:19:04
Speaker 1: twenty four. You want to compare twenty twenty to twenty
1:19:07
Speaker 1: twenty four. This is actually a relevant comparison. Just look
1:19:10
Speaker 1: at the results from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. The homage community, which,
1:19:16
Speaker 1: by the way, in researching this is even smaller than
1:19:18
Speaker 1: I thought it was. It's apparently only six percent of
1:19:21
Speaker 1: Lancaster County and almost all the homage are in Lancaster County,
1:19:26
Speaker 1: just outside of Philadelphia in Pennsylvania. So even I was
1:19:30
Speaker 1: stunned by how small a number that is. But if
1:19:34
Speaker 1: you look at the results from twenty twenty to twenty
1:19:37
Speaker 1: twenty four, it's almost exactly the same. Trump may have
1:19:43
Speaker 1: won Lancaster County by less than half a percentage point
1:19:48
Speaker 1: more in twenty twenty four than he did in twenty twenty, which,
1:19:52
Speaker 1: by the way, is actually less less of an improvement
1:19:57
Speaker 1: for Trump than most rule counties in Pennsylvania, so at best,
1:20:05
Speaker 1: Lancaster County was exactly the same as every other county
1:20:09
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1:20:12
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