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- 0:00S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond its curling crew.
- 0:06S1: Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome what seems
- 0:11S1: impossible and live. As you never imagined delivering the truth daily.
- 0:17S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available
- 0:21S2: and you're forfeiting your soul, there's no amount of gain
- 0:25S2: that would make it worth it.
- 0:26S3: Our own way never ever works. Because it's apart from
- 0:29S3: the life source, which is God.
- 0:32S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
- 0:36S4: be taken from you. Christ love can't. And he went
- 0:39S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
- 0:44S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
- 0:48S1: and crew.
- 0:49S5: The radical nature of salvation is such that it even
- 0:52S5: takes this desire for revenge, and it peels it from
- 0:56S5: our dead, cold, spiritually unregenerated hands and it now surrenders
- 1:03S5: to God. Are there temptations to take it back? Certainly, man.
- 1:07S5: And why do I go to this Braveheart scene when, uh,
- 1:12S5: William Wallace had been secretly married to this man's daughter, and, uh,
- 1:19S5: she died because she's associated with this guy. And the
- 1:24S5: dad at her funeral reached out with his hand, and
- 1:29S5: William Wallace is hunkered down over her body, and the
- 1:33S5: dad reaches out in his hands, trembling. And everything inside
- 1:36S5: him wanted to put his hands on this guy's throat
- 1:39S5: and choke him out, but he peeled that hand back.
- 1:43S5: And obviously that's that's a great picture of the grace
- 1:48S5: of God that gives us a radically new perspective on
- 1:52S5: who is the judge and jury on everything in this world. Boy,
- 1:55S5: that's freeing, isn't it, Ali?
- 1:57S2: Yeah, totally. Because if it's up to us, I mean,
- 1:59S2: we you can think that you've got things pretty dialed in,
- 2:02S2: that you've got a good sense about things. But really,
- 2:06S2: do you really want yourself to be judge, jury, arbiter,
- 2:11S2: decider of what is right and wrong.
- 2:15S5: And only God can change our heart to give it
- 2:18S5: to God? It's just so true.
- 2:21S3: Because we've all had those moments without without him changing
- 2:24S3: us just yet and trying to do things in our
- 2:27S3: own strength and our own power, we can't get ourselves
- 2:30S3: to God.
- 2:31S5: Vengeance is mine, I will repay. What a great thing.
- 2:34S5: What a great evidence of real salvation that you can
- 2:37S5: release that into the hands of God. It's an awesome thing. Yeah. Uh,
- 2:42S5: we want to make sure that you know about Tasha
- 2:46S5: Layton and a cool little Christmas concert that may be
- 2:51S5: within striking distance of you. We were a little late
- 2:54S5: getting on this thing, and we just want to make
- 2:57S5: sure that you've got a heads up wherever you are.
- 3:01S5: Ali's got the details.
- 3:03S2: Yeah. This is Christmas. An evening with Tasha Layton. It
- 3:06S2: is a six stop tour beginning December 6th in Tampa, Florida,
- 3:11S2: and then going on to Tennessee, Ohio, Michigan. A couple
- 3:14S2: stops wrapping up the 12th and the 13th in the
- 3:17S2: Chicagoland area. So I want to make sure that you
- 3:19S2: know how to get out there with some friends, with
- 3:21S2: a small group, or make some new friends at the concert.
- 3:24S2: Just text Christmas to (800) 555-7898, text Christmas to 805 557898.
- 3:33S5: Yeah, really good stuff man. Be sure to get that link. And, uh,
- 3:38S5: you know, let's, let's do this. Let's partner together. Boom
- 3:41S5: crew on this one. Don't keep it to yourself. If
- 3:43S5: you know someone in your area that's like, man, they,
- 3:46S5: they may not know about this. Tell a friend. It's
- 3:49S5: amazing how many times we find people saying, oh man,
- 3:53S5: I forwarded that on. And sure enough, it hits paydirt
- 3:56S5: and even a Christmas concert. Can this enliven our soul
- 3:59S5: for the season and really get us focused? Come on.
- 4:03S5: The old phrase is Jesus is the reason for the season. Yes.
- 4:07S5: And beyond the, uh, the, the kind of the goofiness
- 4:11S5: of that statement. It's true.
- 4:12S2: It is true. It's true. It's one of those ones
- 4:15S2: that you've heard it a lot. So can sometimes maybe
- 4:18S2: lose its impact a little bit. But when you, when
- 4:21S2: you really just strip it down. No, it's really true.
- 4:23S5: Yeah. It's really true. Yeah. So check it out. Text
- 4:26S5: Christmas to 805 557898. Well, I got up this morning
- 4:31S5: really early and I got some thoughts in my heart
- 4:34S5: about salvation. And I do believe that some of you
- 4:37S5: have come here with a, a real, a real crisis
- 4:43S5: of the soul wondering where you stand with God. Or
- 4:46S5: maybe you're wondering why in the world do the promises
- 4:48S5: of God seem so elusive for me? And there could
- 4:51S5: be a reason for that. We're going to break it
- 4:53S5: down coming up here. But hey, text Christmas to 805 557898.
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- 5:08S5: Well good morning Boone crew. It is Carl and crew
- 5:10S5: and we're here to help you take your next step
- 5:12S5: with Jesus. For some of you, many of you, many
- 5:15S5: of you listening, it could be a first big step,
- 5:19S5: which is the step of faith, a step that turns
- 5:23S5: you away from a broad path that leads to destruction,
- 5:25S5: onto a narrow path that leads to life. I've had
- 5:28S5: some deep thoughts here, so we're just going to converse
- 5:31S5: on this one. I got up early this morning and oh,
- 5:36S5: my heart has been really wrapped around this deepening passion
- 5:40S5: that I have and conviction that the Western church, and
- 5:47S5: we've exported some of this around the globe. Good friend
- 5:50S5: in Burundi, Isaiah said, oh my goodness, we've got a
- 5:53S5: lot of this emotionalism, even in Burundi, poorest nation on
- 5:56S5: the planet. And he said, it's it's so systemic. I mean,
- 6:02S5: people can get caught up in these emotional moments and
- 6:05S5: not be saved at all. And here's a man that
- 6:08S5: where the average wage a day is $0.80 a day.
- 6:12S5: And you might think, oh my goodness, if if poverty
- 6:16S5: can lead people to spiritual riches, it ought to be
- 6:18S5: in Burundi. But even there, people can have this great
- 6:22S5: hallucination of salvation, seeing something in themselves that isn't there.
- 6:27S5: You know, I was up early this morning just in Matthew,
- 6:32S5: and there's a whole set of kingdom teaching here. One
- 6:37S5: is about the rich young man who came and he said, man,
- 6:40S5: I've been keeping the law. I've been doing all this
- 6:42S5: stuff perfectly. And Jesus just put the gauntlet down. He said, hey, go,
- 6:47S5: go sell all that you have and give it to
- 6:49S5: the poor. And he's like, he walked away because he
- 6:52S5: had a lot of wealth and it was a bridge
- 6:55S5: too far for him, right? I mean, it was just
- 6:57S5: too far. He couldn't do it. And the disciples are like,
- 7:01S5: how is this going to happen? How in the world
- 7:04S5: are people going to get saved? Because even in their context,
- 7:08S5: their perception is so many people are clinging to the
- 7:11S5: stuff of this world without even knowing it. So the
- 7:15S5: rich young ruler in modern day, could he been a
- 7:19S5: guy that was faithful, attending church and even in small
- 7:22S5: group and even leading one? Yeah, right. He could have
- 7:25S5: been certainly. I mean, if we contextualize it, he could
- 7:28S5: have been.
- 7:29S3: He obviously cared about following the law. Yeah. Doing religious things.
- 7:33S5: Yeah. Oh yeah. For sure. And then this verse is
- 7:38S5: so beautiful. And Jesus looked at them. He said with man,
- 7:41S5: this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.
- 7:46S5: Isn't that tremendous?
- 7:48S2: Yeah, I love the reassurance because you can almost feel
- 7:52S2: the anxiety in their voice like, oh yes. How then who?
- 7:57S2: How is this? How's this possible? Who can be saved then?
- 8:01S5: Yeah, it's just it's a beautiful story. And then the
- 8:07S5: disciples go on to say, well, what about us? We've
- 8:11S5: been following you here. What about us? And Jesus goes
- 8:14S5: on to say, this is in Matthew 19. He says,
- 8:17S5: everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or
- 8:22S5: father or mother or children or lands for my name's sake,
- 8:28S5: will receive a hundred fold and will inherit eternal life.
- 8:32S5: So Scripture, interpret Scripture here. You see Jesus saying, there's
- 8:36S5: going to be this hundred fold like parable of the soils.
- 8:39S5: There's going to be fruit, imperfect life, but genuine fruit
- 8:43S5: born out of you, and you're going to have eternal life.
- 8:46S5: Meaning this impossibility is made possible with God. You know, guys,
- 8:52S5: I got to tell you something. True faith changes everything.
- 8:57S5: It reorients our mind, our heart, our direction, our allegiance.
- 9:01S5: It shows us that the stuff that we've collected, the
- 9:04S5: reputation that we have and all that is dung compared
- 9:07S5: to knowing Christ really does. So I've had this crazy thought.
- 9:12S5: We've had Greg Dempster on on the horn here before.
- 9:15S5: He's a good man of God. He's brought phenomenal content
- 9:19S5: about healing from the inside out for those that are
- 9:22S5: truly born again. But the thought that I've had is
- 9:27S5: that I was genuinely, radically saved by Jesus. And shortly
- 9:32S5: after I was saved, I was asked to share my testimony.
- 9:35S5: And I felt something that was real. And I would
- 9:39S5: often feel like an almost, uh, quote, bless your heart.
- 9:43S5: End quote. Not said to me, but felt that, oh,
- 9:47S5: bless your heart. And the subtheme of that is, boy,
- 9:51S5: God really needed to break you. Boy, you really needed Jesus.
- 9:57S5: But what goes below that is the potentiality for a
- 10:02S5: great deception. And that is some people thinking. Some people
- 10:08S5: really needed to be brought low. But here's the reality.
- 10:16S5: To be born again, all people need to be brought low.
- 10:21S5: No one can avoid this. Blessed are the poor in spirit.
- 10:26S5: No matter how good you may appear. For theirs is
- 10:29S5: the kingdom of heaven. See only the acknowledgment of spiritual
- 10:34S5: bankruptcy that I have nothing. I bring nothing to the
- 10:39S5: table at all can make us born again. And it's that,
- 10:45S5: that juncture that everything changes. And here's my concern and
- 10:50S5: I'm just going to shoot it to you. Boom crew.
- 10:53S5: I think the reason that I'm not the only voice
- 10:55S5: saying this, R.C. Sproul, before he passed on one of
- 10:58S5: his most salient points is you can profess Christ and
- 11:01S5: not possess Christ. Remember him sitting in that chair, answering
- 11:06S5: in an open mic session. And he said, this is
- 11:09S5: a very real issue today for many people. And I
- 11:15S5: think it's I think it's anchored in the deception that
- 11:20S5: some people almost subconsciously think I bring a little something
- 11:27S5: good to God. I bring a little something. But the
- 11:33S5: nature of salvation is such that now that you love
- 11:35S5: to say it, we're not born children of God. We're
- 11:38S5: born in sin. Right, kiddo?
- 11:40S2: Right. And I think, you know, just as I'm listening
- 11:44S2: to this and kind of hearing it for the first time,
- 11:47S2: I wonder if. it's not the the obvious. I bring
- 11:53S2: something to God. I wonder if we if it's more
- 11:56S2: of a subtle. Like looking around at other people who
- 12:00S2: feel like they need Jesus more.
- 12:04S5: I'm not quite as bad as that.
- 12:06S2: Right. And so kind of implied in that as, as if,
- 12:10S2: you know, you picture like a, like a starting line,
- 12:13S2: like in a, in a, in a race or somehow.
- 12:16S2: And if Jesus is the finish line, it's like, well, yeah,
- 12:19S2: I needed Jesus. But like I started, you know, maybe
- 12:22S2: like closer to the finish line than the guy who
- 12:25S2: started way back.
- 12:26S3: Yeah, 100.
- 12:27S2: Like he had a longer way to go to get
- 12:29S2: to Jesus. My path to get to Jesus was like shorter.
- 12:33S2: I was closer to him. Great observation based on kind
- 12:37S2: of the way I, you know, I grew up in
- 12:38S2: the church. So it's like I was, I was, I
- 12:40S2: was close. That other guy started way back there. So
- 12:44S2: I don't know, I'm just kind of.
- 12:46S5: Thinking you're you're right on. And we know this theologically
- 12:49S5: that you're spot on because although if you think you're,
- 12:53S5: let's say, just two yards closer to Jesus, it's that's
- 12:58S5: a that's a theological heresy, right?
- 13:02S3: I mean, that's, uh, that's built up in Luke 18
- 13:07S3: with the parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector.
- 13:09S3: Jesus says, two went to the temple, one was a Pharisee.
- 13:12S3: And he stopped and prayed and said, God, thank you
- 13:15S3: that I'm not like other people, robbers, evildoers, adulterers, or
- 13:19S3: even like this tax collector next to me. I fast
- 13:21S3: twice a week and give a 10th of all I have.
- 13:23S3: But the tax collector prayed and couldn't even lift his
- 13:26S3: face up to God and beat his chest and said,
- 13:28S3: God have mercy on me, for I am a sinner.
- 13:30S3: And then Jesus says, who do you think left with
- 13:34S3: more righteousness, the Pharisee or the tax collector? It's a
- 13:37S3: tax collector because he recognizes his position before God. The
- 13:41S3: Pharisee should have recognized he has the exact same position
- 13:44S3: before God.
- 13:45S2: Yeah. So you're never closer.
- 13:47S3: You're never.
- 13:48S2: Closer. The kingdom of God than when you acknowledge that
- 13:51S2: you bring nothing to the table.
- 13:53S3: The only place we find God is all at the bottom.
- 13:56S3: Every single one of us finds him at the bottom.
- 13:58S5: Every one finds him there. And you know what's there
- 14:03S5: that we bring when we look around?
- 14:06S3: Nothing, nothing.
- 14:08S5: Nothing. Not family, not land, not riches, not status, not significance.
- 14:21S5: Not security. Nothing. Nothing. You know, boom crew. I do
- 14:32S5: believe because we're called to proclaim the truth, that there's
- 14:36S5: someone listening this morning by the power of the Holy Spirit.
- 14:42S5: Just a smattering of referencing the Word of God, the
- 14:45S5: truth of his word and stories that he tells you are,
- 14:49S5: for the first time ever, acknowledging and seeing. Whoa. I
- 14:54S5: thought I was two yards into the race, and that
- 14:58S5: little false assumption that I was a few yards further
- 15:02S5: down the path is being utterly crushed under the grace
- 15:06S5: and mercy and conviction of the Holy Spirit. You see
- 15:09S5: yourself for what you are, and that is, you are
- 15:11S5: nothing apart from God. And that you need a Savior
- 15:18S5: as much as Carl. As much as Greg Dempster. As
- 15:23S5: much as Ali. As much as young thunder. You need
- 15:28S5: a savior to save you from yourself. It's a beautiful
- 15:35S5: revelation that you're receiving from God right now. Right now. Say, Carl,
- 15:41S5: what do I do? Cry out! Just tell him there's
- 15:43S5: nothing good inside me. I am undone. I am a
- 15:51S5: person of unclean lips. I am a person of unclean heart.
- 15:57S5: I need you to wash me clean by the blood
- 15:59S5: of Jesus Christ and save my soul today. Cry out
- 16:03S5: to God. And the amazing thing is that you will. The.
- 16:10S5: The evidence of full surrender to self is to. Now
- 16:17S5: the God whom you've had your back to through some
- 16:20S5: degree of self righteousness. You repent. And you take hold
- 16:30S5: of the embrace of God who has changed your mind,
- 16:33S5: changed your heart, changed your direction, and today you're giving
- 16:37S5: all that you are to Jesus. All those things that
- 16:41S5: you thought you collected on that two yards closer than
- 16:45S5: the other guy you've let go of. You left him
- 16:51S5: on the broad path, and you're turned. And you're following
- 16:53S5: Jesus today for the very first time. The cry of
- 16:55S5: your soul is Jesus. I give it all to you.
- 16:59S5: I'm no better than anyone, and I need a Savior.
- 17:04S5: And you're stripped down to nothing. And praise be to God,
- 17:08S5: because God's saving your soul right now. So if you're
- 17:13S5: crying out to Jesus, Jesus, save me. Jesus, I give
- 17:17S5: you everything that I am God. I acknowledge that I'm
- 17:22S5: bringing nothing to the table. I'm no better than anyone.
- 17:30S5: Save my soul completely. Praise be to God. Because right
- 17:36S5: now you are feeling that weight of your sin lifted
- 17:41S5: from your shoulders By the grace of God. Lifted from
- 17:45S5: your soul and you are being born again. I want
- 17:51S5: you to know that we're here to help you on
- 17:55S5: your brand new life. This isn't Jesus making you better.
- 18:03S5: This is Jesus making you new. You today are being
- 18:06S5: crucified with Christ. It's no longer you who lives but
- 18:09S5: Christ who lives in you and the life you now
- 18:11S5: live in the in, in the flesh you live by
- 18:14S5: faith in the Son of God. Wow. And if that's you,
- 18:18S5: we want these precious people. I don't know how many
- 18:21S5: of you are listening that God's calling you out of
- 18:23S5: darkness and into the light, but we praise God for
- 18:25S5: every one of you today. Don't let pride hold you back, friend.
- 18:30S5: It ain't worth it. What does it profit you to
- 18:32S5: hold on to your pride and lose your soul? Nothing. So, Ali,
- 18:37S5: how are we going to help them with this link?
- 18:39S5: We're going to send them right now.
- 18:40S2: Yeah. I want you to text new to 800 555 7898.
- 18:45S2: Just that one word new. NEW to 805 557898. You're
- 18:52S2: going to get a link back from us. Want you
- 18:54S2: to click it, open it. There's a couple of different
- 18:56S2: things to read through, and then there's a form to
- 18:58S2: fill out so that a member of our Moody radio
- 19:01S2: team across the country can follow up with you, help
- 19:04S2: you get connected to a church, if that's what you need.
- 19:06S2: Just text new to 800 555, 78, 98.
- 19:11S5: Yeah, just a moment. We'll shout out the last four
- 19:15S5: numbers of your telephone number, just so that you know
- 19:18S5: that we know that God now knows you and you
- 19:22S5: know God. So just if this is for real, don't
- 19:27S5: play games on this one. But if this is real
- 19:31S5: in you text new to 805 557898, one word new
- 19:37S5: to 805 557898.
- 19:41S1: Breaking chains and Running free. You're listening to Carl and crew.
- 19:46S5: Yeah, man. I'm just so grateful for God's mercy in
- 19:51S5: your life. There's a couple of you here this morning. 7205, 26, 25, 82, 46, 96, 93, 86.
- 20:03S5: Welcome to the family. Awesome thing. When, uh, we come
- 20:09S5: to a point of realization that, man, I bring nothing
- 20:16S5: to the table. I'm not two yards into this race.
- 20:20S5: I am, I'm as lost as the next guy. What
- 20:24S5: a freeing thing.
- 20:25S2: It is a freeing thing because it allows you to
- 20:27S2: see when you can see yourself rightly. You can see
- 20:30S2: him rightly.
- 20:32S5: Yeah. Yeah. It's just that simple, man. It's that simple,
- 20:38S5: isn't it, guys?
- 20:38S2: It really is. because you can easily see see yourself
- 20:43S2: with this. You can kind of go the pendulum swing
- 20:46S2: between two different places. You can have this sense of pride,
- 20:49S2: like I got something going on. It can which can
- 20:52S2: be deadly. Or you can have this sort of despair
- 20:55S2: where there's an element of pride there too, where you
- 20:57S2: feel like I'm the I'm the worst of the worst. Uh, there's,
- 21:01S2: there's no hope for me. Everybody else has an opportunity,
- 21:04S2: but not me. But there's also a pride there too,
- 21:07S2: because it's also self-focused. But when we take our when
- 21:10S2: we see that we are born into sin, we can't
- 21:14S2: save ourselves. But there's hope in Jesus Christ. That's that
- 21:19S2: high ridge.
- 21:20S5: Amen. Well, I gotta tell you something. I, I'm going
- 21:25S5: to give you a taste of something I'm dishing up
- 21:27S5: on Saturday. I'm going to give you just a few
- 21:29S5: points that I'm going to be breaking out here. I'm
- 21:31S5: going to kick off Saturday at a. The unstoppable gospel
- 21:35S5: conference with true faith changes everything. I'm going to. I'm
- 21:39S5: going to start not with anything but a big blue
- 21:42S5: sky vision of what God can do in your life.
- 21:44S5: But we're going to explore the fact that true faith
- 21:46S5: is costly. I mean, it's not just add Jesus, it's costly.
- 21:53S5: And how we've screwed up the parable of the four
- 21:57S5: soils and help people understand that true faith is going
- 22:00S5: to cut through the hardness of heart. It's going to
- 22:02S5: sustain you through persecution and hardship. It's going to elevate
- 22:06S5: you beyond the worries of this world, the deceitfulness of wealth,
- 22:09S5: and the desire for other things. And it's going to
- 22:12S5: produce an imperfect but fruitful life. And then I'm going
- 22:16S5: to answer the question, why and how have we lowered
- 22:20S5: the bar of salvation? I'm going to give you two
- 22:22S5: primary reasons that are going to peel some paint here, guys.
- 22:27S5: And they're hard hitting. They're hard hitting. So I would
- 22:34S5: I just it's Saturday morning. 830 central until 1230 central.
- 22:40S5: If you can get to 180 Chicago church campus in
- 22:43S5: northwest burbs, fine. But the vast majority of you. We
- 22:46S5: got a ton of you that are going to be
- 22:48S5: far away from there, but we'll all be together, right, Ali?
- 22:50S2: Yep. Just text intro. You're going to get the intro
- 22:53S2: to the book, plus the sign up link for the
- 22:55S2: conference coming up, the Unstoppable Gospel Conference this Saturday. Text
- 22:59S2: intro to 805 557898, intro to 805 557898.
- 23:07S5: I can honestly tell you, Ali, I have never been more. Utterly,
- 23:15S5: humbly dependent on God for this message, and also deeply passionate.
- 23:23S5: Because when I rise early in the morning and I'm
- 23:25S5: not cluttered with things that are going on around me,
- 23:28S5: I can look at the Word of God with clear
- 23:30S5: sobriety and have compassion for those that have never yet
- 23:34S5: known Jesus, and we can cut through this fog together. Guys.
- 23:38S5: I hope you can make some time to be there
- 23:41S5: this Saturday. Text intro to (800) 555-7898 one. Word intro to
- 23:47S5: 805 557898. All right, young Thunder, let's get a couple
- 23:52S5: news hits, my man.
- 23:56S3: American, Ukrainian and Russian officials are holding peace talks in
- 24:00S3: Abu Dhabi today in an effort to end Russia's invasion
- 24:03S3: of Ukraine. The Trump administration is seeking a breakthrough as
- 24:07S3: the war drags on into its fifth year. The U.S. delegation,
- 24:10S3: led by special envoy Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, joined
- 24:13S3: Ukrainian and Russian representatives to discuss security guarantees, territorial disputes
- 24:18S3: and a potential settlement. Major disagreements remain as Russia demands
- 24:21S3: Ukrainian territory and military restrictions, while Kyiv seeks security guarantees. U.S.
- 24:27S3: officials remain cautiously optimistic, but Ukrainian leaders doubt the talks
- 24:31S3: will produce progress. The FBI is looking into security concerns
- 24:35S3: after Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang s affair with an alleged
- 24:39S3: Chinese spy. That's according to President Trump. Specifically, the Justice
- 24:43S3: Department is probing mega Speed, the Singaporean company accused of
- 24:47S3: smuggling Nvidia AI chips into China. It's also the company
- 24:50S3: where the alleged spy worked. Speaking to reporters from the
- 24:54S3: white House press room Monday, Trump said Huang told him
- 24:57S3: he had no idea the woman was a spy. Nvidia's
- 25:00S3: board has launched an independent investigation as well. I'm Jonathan,
- 25:03S3: and that is your quick update.
- 25:05S5: Yeah, man. Uh, we're coming into a season here. Ali,
- 25:08S5: I might throw you a curveball here. Are you ready
- 25:11S5: to go with Christmas wish? I am. You are. I am. Okay.
- 25:15S5: Boom crew. You are here to hear it for the
- 25:17S5: very first time. This is something really cool. And I
- 25:21S5: think the heart behind this guys is to put on
- 25:25S5: display in really practice. This is a discipleship opportunity if
- 25:29S5: done rightly. We are going to be able to put
- 25:32S5: on display the heart of God for people in a
- 25:35S5: unique way. What in the world are we doing now?
- 25:38S2: Yeah, this is an exciting thing. This is our opportunity.
- 25:41S2: Moody Radio's opportunity to really help make Christmas a little
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- 25:47S2: people that you know. So here's what we're asking you
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- 25:52S2: pray about what is a wish that you would love
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- 27:21S2: Christmas wish. 805 557898 text wish to 805 557898.
- 27:30S5: What a cool thing. Ali.
- 27:31S2: Yeah, I'm excited about this. This is going to be
- 27:33S2: a lot of fun. We are going to randomly pick
- 27:36S2: five wishes to Grant, and then we're going to do
- 27:38S2: some of this on air. So we'll get to celebrate
- 27:40S2: and have some fun with it together.
- 27:42S5: Yeah, really, really good stuff. So you got what you need.
- 27:46S5: You're the first ones to hear about this boom crew.
- 27:49S5: So Merry Christmas everybody, as you bless someone else. And
- 27:54S5: that's the way to do it.
- 27:55S2: Yep. Text wish to 805 557898.
- 28:00S1: Romans eight brought her to Jesus while broadcasting traffic overnight.
- 28:04S1: Super Dai is in the crew. It's curl and crew
- 28:08S1: on Moody radio.
- 28:09S5: You know, when we think about taking risk and walking
- 28:12S5: by faith, there is a element of people that are
- 28:17S5: taking risk, but they don't have the faith to get
- 28:20S5: them through it. And then comes along this great vision
- 28:25S5: for all those in the armed services, those people that
- 28:28S5: sign up and say, I'm willing to, in many respects
- 28:33S5: put my life on the line, not knowing, even if
- 28:36S5: we're in a time of peace, not knowing if we're
- 28:37S5: going to go into a time of war. They're signing
- 28:40S5: up saying, I want to serve my country. And to
- 28:43S5: think that we've got a ministry that is coming alongside
- 28:47S5: and serving them right now. We've got the brand new point, man.
- 28:52S2: We've got David Hutchings with us right now. He's the
- 28:54S2: president of Cadence International. Now, cadence is an evangelical mission
- 28:59S2: agency that serves all branches of the military stateside and
- 29:04S2: some overseas locations as well.
- 29:06S5: Yeah, David, you're doing a great work. I've known about
- 29:09S5: this ministry for a lot of years. I can't believe
- 29:11S5: we haven't had you guys featured until now. And there's
- 29:14S5: a reason for that. You're going to be speaking at
- 29:16S5: Moody's Missions Conference, and you're an alumni of Moody. But
- 29:20S5: more than that, you're doing a great work. Give us
- 29:22S5: some stories from cadence so that people understand the impact
- 29:26S5: that you're having.
- 29:27S6: Sure. What a privilege to be here. And, um, like
- 29:32S6: you said, there's, there's a call on the life of
- 29:35S6: a service member that they want to serve, they want
- 29:37S6: to protect, and they commit themselves to readiness. And, uh,
- 29:41S6: that that's a very focused effort. And so when we
- 29:45S6: come alongside of them in community and cadence really is
- 29:49S6: a ministry that establishes presence in the community. It's not
- 29:53S6: that we run a program that we hope people will
- 29:55S6: come to. We want to live life alongside those service members. So,
- 29:58S6: for example, a young man, uh, 40 years ago and
- 30:02S6: wrote a Spain, uh, was out partying and he was
- 30:06S6: actually stabbed, uh, off base and went to the emergency room.
- 30:10S6: He had this crisis, this critical moment in his life.
- 30:13S6: And the people who showed up were from the cadence
- 30:15S6: hospitality house. They cared for him. Uh, they, they fed him.
- 30:19S6: They supported him. They were alongside of him in that
- 30:22S6: very critical moment of his life. Well, that led him
- 30:24S6: to Christ and to repentance. And currently he's one of
- 30:27S6: our board members. Uh, he serves the military worldwide and
- 30:30S6: his current job, and he gets to serve in the
- 30:33S6: mission now, 40 years later, that God has brought that
- 30:36S6: full circle. But this young man who knew what it
- 30:39S6: meant to live on mission was encountered the love of
- 30:43S6: Jesus through our people and then repented. Changed. But now
- 30:47S6: he lives on mission for the kingdom. And it's a
- 30:49S6: beautiful thing.
- 30:50S2: And I love that story.
- 30:52S5: Beautiful.
- 30:52S2: So 1.3 million active duty personnel. The U.S. military community
- 30:57S2: is one of the largest, most responsive subcultures that we have.
- 31:02S2: What drew you to this particular ministry?
- 31:06S6: Oh, man. So when I graduated Moody 2006, I was
- 31:09S6: really drawn to church ministry, and I wanted to have
- 31:12S6: an impact on a local community. I really what was
- 31:15S6: in my mind was pretty small. Like, how do you
- 31:18S6: impact the people closest to you for the sake of
- 31:20S6: the gospel? And that was early 2000. It was the
- 31:24S6: church planting era and multi-site campuses. People were thinking out
- 31:28S6: in and multiplication and, um, my, I didn't have a
- 31:31S6: piece about any of those opportunities in that season with
- 31:35S6: what God had put in my heart to do. And
- 31:37S6: then I took a trip over to Germany, went to
- 31:40S6: visit Baden. And, uh, I encountered the Ministry of Cadence
- 31:44S6: there and I said, wow, this is amazing. This is
- 31:46S6: small town America planted overseas. I don't need to learn
- 31:49S6: another language. And there is intense focus, discipleship in a
- 31:53S6: people group who desperately need community, absolutely need Jesus. And
- 31:58S6: we can just be committed to, to that community. And
- 32:02S6: it was such a powerful ministry, partnering with local churches,
- 32:05S6: working with chaplains. We have amazing partnership with our chaplains
- 32:10S6: across the globe. And it just really kind of connected
- 32:14S6: those dots of what God had put in my heart.
- 32:16S6: And I felt like I could be fully committed to
- 32:19S6: these people. And then they go around the globe. The
- 32:22S6: multiplying impact of military ministry as people move from installation
- 32:26S6: to Into installation. And they're they're willing to go anywhere.
- 32:30S6: I mean, the, the amount of people we have on
- 32:33S6: the mission field from our ministries is huge. We have
- 32:36S6: a deck of cards that we pray through, uh, every
- 32:39S6: month because we have 54 people from our ministries that
- 32:43S6: are in full time missions now. And that multiplying impact
- 32:46S6: is really part of what hooked me and kept me
- 32:49S6: engaged in military ministry.
- 32:51S5: Yeah. Now you're leading it, my man. Uh, you know,
- 32:53S5: it's it's really cool. I've known about these hospitality houses
- 32:57S5: for a long time, and I know some of the
- 32:59S5: people on your team, they're extraordinary people. What a ministry
- 33:03S5: of hospitality. What a creative way to catch people, some
- 33:07S5: of whom find themselves in military for a lot of
- 33:10S5: different reasons. Some feel like, I got to get there.
- 33:12S5: Some feel like maybe this will sort out where I
- 33:15S5: need to be in life. So you you've got a
- 33:19S5: real attentive, potentially attentive group in these hospitality houses. Tell
- 33:23S5: us how that works from reaching people on base, getting
- 33:29S5: them to a hospitality house, sharing with them the good
- 33:32S5: news of Jesus and then discipling them. It's super intentional,
- 33:35S5: isn't it?
- 33:36S6: It's really intentional. And it's very, um, I mean, the
- 33:40S6: word would be organic. Like there is a natural flow
- 33:43S6: to who our staff are. We have incredible staff around
- 33:47S6: the globe and they take their strengths, their gifts, and
- 33:51S6: we plant them in a home near a military base.
- 33:53S6: And they open it up. They do Bible study, uh,
- 33:56S6: they share meals, they invite people into their lives, and
- 33:59S6: then they go into their lives as well. So whether
- 34:01S6: that's on the barracks in the chapel service, working alongside
- 34:05S6: of chaplains and as they, as we live life among,
- 34:10S6: I think of, uh, Peter's words, his challenge to live
- 34:13S6: such excellent lives among the Gentiles, uh, that it would
- 34:17S6: bring glory to the father. And so that's really what
- 34:20S6: we seek to do is share the gospel and our lives,
- 34:23S6: not not only the gospel we're always wanting to share that,
- 34:26S6: but we're going to share our lives with these people.
- 34:29S6: And so it really becomes a person who loves Jesus
- 34:32S6: that is rooted in that community, that is committed to
- 34:35S6: the good of the people around them for the sake
- 34:37S6: of the gospel. It sounds so incredibly simple, and it is.
- 34:41S6: So these hospitality houses are such a beautiful picture of
- 34:46S6: the simplicity of what it means to live out the
- 34:48S6: love of God. And it has power and transformation in
- 34:53S6: the lives of the people who encounter it. So we
- 34:54S6: have a house in Spangdahlem, Germany right now. They've got
- 34:58S6: an attached barn as a gathering center. They've got this
- 35:01S6: big basin on the farm that they do baptisms in,
- 35:05S6: and they gather sometimes 150 people on a Friday night
- 35:09S6: for meal and Bible study. And it's home. And you
- 35:12S6: have these young men and women who are away from home,
- 35:15S6: many for the first time in their lives. And I
- 35:17S6: think we're all looking for family. I mean, that's the gospel.
- 35:20S6: We are adopted, we are grafted in. And that imagery
- 35:23S6: and scripture is so beautiful and so to live life
- 35:26S6: as the family of God and invite people into that
- 35:29S6: in a season of their life when they're really longing
- 35:31S6: for family, missing family, and they find that in the
- 35:35S6: people of God and in Christ. And that's really what
- 35:38S6: the hospitality house does.
- 35:39S2: Dave Hutchins with us right now, Cadence International, and we
- 35:43S2: have Veterans Day this week. And so obviously, we want
- 35:46S2: to honor the veterans who are listening, families of veterans
- 35:49S2: in our listening area. When you look at kind of
- 35:52S2: the needs of veterans, because I know that oftentimes veteran
- 35:57S2: families or veterans themselves feel overlooked, they feel like people
- 36:00S2: have forgotten the sacrifices that they've made. There's lots of
- 36:05S2: sometimes mental health challenges in kind of readjusting. What is
- 36:10S2: your heart as we commemorate this Veterans Day this week?
- 36:13S6: Oh, man. Uh, you know, for those families, those individuals
- 36:17S6: who serve their families make a sacrifice as well. And
- 36:21S6: so when we think about Veterans Day, of course, like
- 36:24S6: that first and greatest honor is to those who have
- 36:27S6: been willing to lay down their lives in service for
- 36:29S6: our country. Um, and they have made sacrifices of time
- 36:33S6: and energy. They are incredible men and women that are
- 36:37S6: integrated throughout our community and like you said, can be
- 36:40S6: so overlooked. But, but their families sacrifice as well. So
- 36:43S6: on Veterans Day, if for anyone who's out there listening,
- 36:46S6: anyone who is a service member was a service member,
- 36:50S6: if you're a family member of them, I just want
- 36:52S6: to say thank you. You have made a sacrifice for
- 36:57S6: the good of others around you, and we are so,
- 37:01S6: so grateful for you. And I think that service, that sacrifice,
- 37:06S6: that surrender reflects the life of a believer. And for
- 37:12S6: those of you who follow Jesus and have served in
- 37:14S6: our military, you get how those connect. And if you're
- 37:17S6: listening and you've served and you've sacrificed, and you're now
- 37:22S6: in that veteran community and we love our veteran community.
- 37:25S6: Hayden's actually ministers directly to active duty, and we've stayed
- 37:29S6: focused on that. There's so many great ministries connected to
- 37:33S6: our veterans that we're grateful for. But I just want
- 37:36S6: to say that if you're struggling on the other side
- 37:41S6: of your service to your country, I think there is
- 37:44S6: a deeper fulfillment in a service to Christ and a
- 37:48S6: service to your community that can continue to be fulfilled.
- 37:51S6: And if you find an empty spot in your heart
- 37:54S6: this morning as you're hearing this, I pray that you
- 37:58S6: would turn and look to Jesus to be the answer
- 38:02S6: to fulfill that and that there's actually not just in
- 38:05S6: knowing him, but even in the purpose of serving like
- 38:07S6: serving our country that we serve in the kingdom of God.
- 38:11S6: And he has great plan and purpose and belonging for you.
- 38:15S5: I love your heart. David. David Hutchings, our guest right now,
- 38:18S5: president of Cadence International, might be a new ministry to some.
- 38:21S5: We'll have a key word here in just a moment. Where?
- 38:25S5: Where are people most receptive? You've got you've got a
- 38:29S5: finger on the pulse of what's going on around the globe. Different, uh,
- 38:33S5: military outposts. Where are you seeing God? Really on the move?
- 38:39S5: Holy spirit movement that you can't ascribe to the talent
- 38:42S5: or gifting of a particular person. It it exceeds that.
- 38:45S5: Where are you seeing that, David?
- 38:47S6: I see it anywhere that people are willing to take
- 38:51S6: risk because I think the spirit is moving and the
- 38:54S6: spirit is calling his people to do hard things. Uh,
- 38:58S6: and if I distill that, I would say harder gets
- 39:02S6: easier when you're already uncomfortable. So overseas, we see that
- 39:06S6: a lot when people leave their first culture and go
- 39:08S6: to live in Germany, live in Japan, Korea, or even
- 39:11S6: more remote bases, uh, across the US or around the world. Uh,
- 39:16S6: there is a sense of isolation and need that's increased.
- 39:21S6: There's a sense of discomfort that you're already living in.
- 39:24S6: And it actually, I find that it decreases our scramble
- 39:28S6: to be comfortable in our current environment and for our staff,
- 39:34S6: for service members in that community to be even more
- 39:37S6: willing to take bold risks for the sake of Christ.
- 39:41S6: And then you see God do powerful things. And so
- 39:44S6: I don't know that it's a place or a location,
- 39:46S6: but a posture of the heart, and that is cultivated
- 39:49S6: so strongly in uncomfortable environments. And, and so I say,
- 39:53S6: even in our day to day ministries here stateside, we
- 39:58S6: see that too, because we have people who are saying, God,
- 40:01S6: I whatever you call, I want to do. And if
- 40:04S6: it doesn't make sense, I still want to go. One
- 40:07S6: of my favorite stories when I was living in Okinawa,
- 40:11S6: a lot of the young Marines there can't drive. They
- 40:13S6: don't get licenses. They don't want to risk that responsibility
- 40:16S6: in a foreign country of some young marine running into
- 40:20S6: a local driver, and so they have to walk everywhere.
- 40:23S6: And I was driving across base one day and saw
- 40:26S6: this young marine out in the rain carrying his groceries,
- 40:28S6: both hands fully loaded. And it's just downpouring. And you know,
- 40:32S6: he's a marine. He doesn't care. He's just walking through
- 40:35S6: the storm. No big deal. But I pull over and
- 40:37S6: pick him up, um, and say, hey, marine, where are
- 40:40S6: you going? Can I get you back to your barracks?
- 40:42S6: And so we start driving and he, you know, inevitably
- 40:45S6: the question comes up, who the heck are you? What
- 40:47S6: do you do? You don't look like a marine. What
- 40:49S6: are you doing here? And so I share who I am,
- 40:52S6: what I do, and share Christ with him and invite
- 40:55S6: him to Bible study. Well, that small act of love
- 40:59S6: in an uncomfortable environment. I was late, I missed an
- 41:02S6: appointment to pick that guy up, but he came to Christ. Uh.
- 41:06S6: Two months later. Come to Bible study, finding a place
- 41:08S6: of belonging, experiencing the love of Christ. And, um, I absolutely,
- 41:13S6: in choosing my own comfort, would not have not picked
- 41:15S6: that guy up that day. Um, but it means that
- 41:18S6: we get to rejoice with him in heaven one day.
- 41:20S6: And what awesome man. I can't think of anything better
- 41:23S6: than that.
- 41:23S2: Yeah. Dave Hutchings with Cadence International, we've got a link
- 41:26S2: for you. Just text soldier to 805 557898. Find out
- 41:32S2: more about this great ministry. Just text soldier to 805 557898.
- 41:38S1: Helping you take the next step in your walk with Jesus.
- 41:41S7: God longs for us today to seek him and ask
- 41:45S7: him to move in ways that we never could.
- 41:48S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
- 41:50S5: Well, if there's someone in my life that I love
- 41:53S5: to hear from. If there's someone that I can call
- 41:56S5: and in a moment's notice, she's there for me. And
- 41:59S5: I mean this in practical ways, it would be Lina Abujamra.
- 42:04S5: She's a great woman of God. She's a phenomenal author,
- 42:06S5: amazing communicator, and I had the privilege of taking a
- 42:11S5: look at her most recent work. And it is dynamite.
- 42:14S5: It's little sticks of Lina Dynamite Day after day. Ali.
- 42:20S2: That's a great description. Lena Abujamra with us. The resource
- 42:23S2: is called Every Day, a life changing walk through the
- 42:26S2: Bible in one year. I got to be honest, Lena,
- 42:29S2: a lot of times people hear the Bible in a
- 42:31S2: year and they get a little nervous because they've tried
- 42:34S2: it before they started. And January went well, February they
- 42:38S2: fell off and then they started feeling real guilty and
- 42:40S2: trying to catch up. The rest of the way the
- 42:43S2: Bible read through in a year can be can be
- 42:45S2: really challenging for people. Let's just start at that point.
- 42:49S2: You want to you want to reduce some of the
- 42:51S2: stress here, right?
- 42:52S8: I mean, I will start by saying it is hands
- 42:55S8: down the only thing that has worked for me in
- 42:57S8: my Christian walk. I've looked at other ways to read
- 42:59S8: through the Bible, to read bits and pieces, but I
- 43:02S8: find that it just gets you slough off like you
- 43:05S8: start something and then you're like, oh, I'm just going
- 43:06S8: to do the Gospels in three months. And then. And
- 43:08S8: then you quit. I don't know, there is something about
- 43:11S8: the regularity of a discipline. And while I don't think
- 43:14S8: it's the only way, I think it is the best
- 43:15S8: way to get the full scope of God's Word into
- 43:18S8: your life on a regular basis. And so with that
- 43:21S8: in mind, I think we aimed my ministry, myself and
- 43:24S8: my team to create a reading plan that was very
- 43:28S8: doable and very focused, particularly in an era where our
- 43:33S8: minds have a hard time focusing due to just the
- 43:36S8: product of our culture. Now we are not in the
- 43:39S8: same wiring of the brain as we used to be
- 43:41S8: 20 years ago. So this plan is takes that into account.
- 43:46S8: And so we just go through one book of the
- 43:47S8: Bible at a time, which I think is hugely helpful
- 43:51S8: for a person who wants to get through it. And
- 43:52S8: it's free. And this is why I wrote the devotionals
- 43:54S8: to help make it more palatable and more doable.
- 43:57S5: What what I love about this is that it does
- 43:59S5: give you a panorama of the whole of Scripture, and
- 44:04S5: you get to see the red thread of redemption that's
- 44:07S5: woven all the way from Genesis to Revelation. And having
- 44:11S5: read a big chunk of this, Lena, people are in
- 44:14S5: for a real treat here. What was your devotionals? There's
- 44:18S5: great ones all over the place. Morning and evening, Spurgeon.
- 44:22S5: I mean, there's so many good ones out there. What
- 44:24S5: was your angle and take on this that you wanted
- 44:26S5: to address that you think other devotionals maybe don't tackle?
- 44:30S8: Well, first of all, I wouldn't. I mean, I don't
- 44:31S8: think there's anything I've written many, many books so far,
- 44:34S8: and I don't think there's anything that anyone has ever
- 44:36S8: written that's like, wow, no one's ever thought of this before. Yeah. Right.
- 44:39S8: I think it's the way that you process information and
- 44:42S8: the way that you communicate things. That varies from person
- 44:45S8: to person. And I think some of that, I mean,
- 44:47S8: you'll see cultural rhythms, like there's a devotional that like my,
- 44:50S8: My Utmost for his highest. I've been reading that devotional
- 44:52S8: for two, three decades now, and I'll go over it
- 44:55S8: again and again. There are other devotionals I read, and
- 44:58S8: sometimes it's the voice of the era, the culture, how
- 45:01S8: we process information. Again, that changes from time to time,
- 45:04S8: where devotional written in this era might sound different than
- 45:07S8: a Spurgeon, which I love. And the other thing is
- 45:10S8: sometimes you need you don't need variety in God's Word,
- 45:12S8: in the sense that you need God's Word always. But
- 45:14S8: sometimes the devotional helps sort of glean an understanding of
- 45:17S8: how a person thinks through Scripture. So I think my
- 45:19S8: approach to Scripture has always been a very practical breakdown
- 45:25S8: of like, I think my gift in general in teaching
- 45:28S8: the Scripture is to try to take complex ideas and
- 45:30S8: break them down into practical ways, like an ER doctor would, would,
- 45:34S8: which is my background. You come into er, you have
- 45:36S8: a huge diagnosis, you don't know how to wrap your
- 45:38S8: mind around it. My gift in medicine again, and I
- 45:41S8: believe in the church, is that I can process this
- 45:44S8: information and break it down into a sizable chunk. That
- 45:48S8: makes sense. And you can apply for the day and
- 45:51S8: then come back for the next day. And so that
- 45:52S8: it's written really with that in mind, much like my teaching,
- 45:55S8: which is there's a part of it that explains sort
- 45:57S8: of what's going on. Where are we in Scripture as
- 45:59S8: we're reading this, that acknowledges the difficulty of certain texts,
- 46:02S8: but then also, what do I know about God here?
- 46:05S8: And what do I learn about myself, and where do
- 46:07S8: I need to repent? And so, and I do believe
- 46:09S8: that I do this in short, you know, daily Bible,
- 46:13S8: you know, one of our most popular devotionals is online.
- 46:15S8: It's called Power Minute, and I really think people love it.
- 46:18S8: It's hands down the most subscribed thing I do. And
- 46:20S8: very similar actually to the angle of this book. And
- 46:23S8: I think people like it because it's just doable. I
- 46:25S8: think we go back to sort of people are swamped
- 46:28S8: with with stuff and it's like they want to be
- 46:30S8: in the word, but they just got to be able
- 46:32S8: to also do it. And, and so I really understand that.
- 46:35S8: And I think this makes it doable.
- 46:37S2: Lina Abujamra with us right now. And I like, though,
- 46:40S2: that you make clear that the goal is not simply
- 46:43S2: to finish the Bible because you can easily have this
- 46:46S2: plan of I, this is something I want to do
- 46:49S2: this year and still miss the whole point. Because if
- 46:52S2: it's just like the successful completion of reading through the word,
- 46:57S2: we could do that and still miss Jesus, right? I mean,
- 47:00S2: so it's got to be more than the box checking.
- 47:03S8: I mean, I grew up with a very, you know,
- 47:05S8: sort of, ah, I think the 80s were, you know,
- 47:07S8: I was born in the 70s, grew up in the 80s.
- 47:09S8: And I think it was a very legalistic time where
- 47:11S8: we really did take pride in crossing things off. And,
- 47:15S8: you know, and I think there's been a big pendulum
- 47:16S8: swing away from that, although I still think there's something
- 47:19S8: to be said about crossing things off. I mean, people
- 47:20S8: who run marathons and we just, you know, finished the
- 47:22S8: Chicago Marathon recently and I've watched the New York Marathon,
- 47:25S8: and those people crossed off a certain number of miles
- 47:27S8: every day in order to finish the race. And so
- 47:29S8: there is something to be said about that. And I
- 47:31S8: think we can't completely neglect. But you're right. I mean,
- 47:33S8: the goal of reading scripture, I mean, the idea of
- 47:36S8: crossing a box is just did I have that meaning today?
- 47:39S8: You know, we all have stuff to do. And if
- 47:40S8: we don't show up for them, are you showing up
- 47:42S8: for your relationship with the Lord who is waiting for
- 47:44S8: us to show up? But also, I think you're right.
- 47:46S8: I think you can do. Nobody said you got to
- 47:48S8: finish a Bible reading plan in a year. You can
- 47:50S8: spend two years, three years, four years on it. And,
- 47:52S8: and I think the way that the book is, is presented,
- 47:55S8: of course, to accommodate that is that it's not by
- 47:58S8: January 1st as much as by day one, day two.
- 48:00S8: So you can pick it up any time. And I
- 48:02S8: think this is where legalism must let loose its claws.
- 48:05S8: It's like, this is a resource. It's not the word
- 48:07S8: of God. You know, you read whatever, like at the
- 48:10S8: end of the day, read whatever is going to draw
- 48:12S8: you closer to the Lord. But by God's grace and
- 48:14S8: by our prayers, I hope that this is a tool
- 48:17S8: that helps you. Again, there's a devotional idea, but also
- 48:19S8: an application question every day that helps me see, Lord,
- 48:23S8: how am I doing? And, and you know what? I
- 48:25S8: need to reset certain things in my life and I
- 48:28S8: long for more of the Lord. You know, my favorite
- 48:30S8: verse in scripture, one of my top is the verse
- 48:33S8: that Jeremiah talks about how the word of God is like, honey,
- 48:36S8: I found it and I ate it. It became a
- 48:37S8: joy and the delight of my life. And, and I
- 48:40S8: think this is what I would love people who read
- 48:42S8: scripture to come away with.
- 48:44S5: We got a challenge in the church today that you're
- 48:46S5: well aware of biblical illiteracy, but I think the. The
- 48:49S5: jump is sometimes the box that we check is, I'm
- 48:52S5: going to go from 0 to 60 in like two seconds.
- 48:56S5: But what I love about DeVos in yours especially is
- 49:01S5: that this gives us a give us this day our
- 49:03S5: daily bread. It gives us. Men shall not live by
- 49:07S5: bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the
- 49:10S5: mouth of God. This gives us a bite sized morsel
- 49:13S5: that could actually feed the appetite for more and more. Lena,
- 49:18S5: what do you think?
- 49:19S8: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Who hasn't, you know, had, like,
- 49:24S8: you know, you remind me of like going to restaurants.
- 49:26S8: You eat something like this is so good. I can't
- 49:27S8: wait to come back. That's so ultimately, that's what I
- 49:30S8: love about the Word of God. And, you know, even
- 49:31S8: reading through like right now, I'm getting through the minor
- 49:33S8: prophets and I say getting through because they're hard. Yeah.
- 49:36S8: You know, I've been in the church and in the
- 49:37S8: Word of God for years. And sometimes I read certain sections.
- 49:40S8: I think people always joke about Leviticus, but I think
- 49:43S8: harder than Leviticus is Ezekiel as an example. You know,
- 49:46S8: there's a couple of chapters that sound familiar, but the
- 49:49S8: rest you're like, what is he saying? But then you
- 49:52S8: land on a Habakkuk, you know, three the last few
- 49:55S8: verses or Hosea chapter two, where God expresses his longing
- 49:59S8: for his people. And it is that exactly what you said?
- 50:02S8: It's like that. Taste and see that the Lord is good.
- 50:04S8: You read a verse and it pops out and you're like,
- 50:06S8: oh my gosh, I didn't see that coming. And it
- 50:08S8: just makes you Every year I'm telling you, when I
- 50:10S8: get to certain sections of Scripture that I don't spend
- 50:13S8: time on. Like there's certain passages that show up in
- 50:15S8: church that show up on other devotionals. But, but there
- 50:18S8: are some that I only see when I get through
- 50:19S8: the Word of God year by year. And when I
- 50:21S8: land in that space, it's like you just took me
- 50:24S8: to my favorite restaurant. I'm like, I can't wait till
- 50:26S8: next year to get back to that place.
- 50:28S9: Love it. So, you know, I mean, I hope this.
- 50:30S8: This thing is contagious because it really I mean, I
- 50:33S8: caught it from others. My mother has been an example
- 50:36S8: of loving the Word of God. And if it's catchy,
- 50:39S8: it's called I caught it and I pray that God would.
- 50:42S8: There's a lot of things I do that I don't
- 50:43S8: want people to catch, but this is one of them,
- 50:45S8: which is I love the Word of God more. And
- 50:47S8: I know Carl, you have. And I know everyone on
- 50:49S8: your team does, but I've seen it up close in
- 50:51S8: your life. You love the Word of God. And I
- 50:53S8: think to me, if that is catchy, then put me
- 50:55S8: in the room, baby.
- 50:57S2: So is that what this process did for you? Help
- 51:00S2: you just reinforce your love for the word and your
- 51:03S2: love for the Lord?
- 51:04S8: You know, um, the Lord is so good. I mean,
- 51:07S8: I've had that question in my mind over the years, like,
- 51:10S8: why do people born in the same family? Some adore
- 51:13S8: the Lord and some don't. You know, you go to
- 51:14S8: the same church, some are on fire for God and
- 51:16S8: some aren't. And you know how much of it is
- 51:18S8: our doing? How much of it is God drawing us?
- 51:20S8: All of it is God drawing us, but also all
- 51:22S8: of it is art. You know? So you get in
- 51:23S8: these mental things. I can tell you this. I don't
- 51:27S8: know what came first, the chicken or the egg. I
- 51:30S8: suggest that God is the one who's ignited something in
- 51:33S8: my life, but I can tell you what fuels it.
- 51:36S8: What is like taking a bucket, you know, of oil
- 51:38S8: and dumping it on a fire, and it is being
- 51:40S8: in the Word of God regularly. So however you do it,
- 51:43S8: by the way, I'd say a second to that. And
- 51:46S8: this I say carefully, because everyone who knows my testimony
- 51:48S8: by now, and I've been on moody enough to know
- 51:51S8: that people who listen hear may be familiar. The second one,
- 51:54S8: I'd say, is being in the word of in the
- 51:56S8: Church of God regularly, in the actual gathering of believers.
- 51:59S8: So the Word of God and the people of God
- 52:01S8: are essential to fuel your love for God. And it
- 52:04S8: is no accident that Satan has taken great delight in destroying.
- 52:08S8: For many the desire to be with the people of God.
- 52:10S8: But man, if you're with the Word of God and
- 52:12S8: you find yourself like, man, I'm not even sure, you know,
- 52:15S8: like you don't have anyone to deal with, just you
- 52:17S8: and the Lord. So hopefully that hasn't been touched yet.
- 52:19S8: But yeah, I think that has been the number one
- 52:21S8: habit that has actively fueled, first of all, my love
- 52:25S8: for the Lord, but also secondly, my love for God's
- 52:27S8: people and my ability and willingness to be with people
- 52:31S8: that I maybe years ago thought, I don't want to
- 52:33S8: be around him anymore, but it's because of his word
- 52:35S8: that I continue to show up. It's not my doing,
- 52:37S8: but his.
- 52:37S2: It's a new devotional every day, a life changing walk
- 52:40S2: through the Bible in one year and you heard Lena
- 52:43S2: gives you permission. You don't have to start to wait
- 52:45S2: till January 1st. So there's nothing there's no dates in
- 52:49S2: this book. So if you want November 13th to be
- 52:52S2: your day one, you go for it. The sooner the better.
- 52:55S2: That we get into God's Word. Just text power. We'll
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