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Orange County's Bad Reputation Recap · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Drama, Darling. Hello and welcome in, Darlings. It is a
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: fabulous Friday. It is the end of the week and
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  Speaker 2: we will be recapping this week's episode of the Real
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: Housewives of Orange County Dune Dimond, thank god, else I'd
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  Speaker 2: have to really explain a lot to you if you
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  Speaker 2: were just turning on The Real Housewives of Orange County
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  Speaker 2: this week and have never seen it ever before.
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  Speaker 1: Laha, trust you would be weld. It's funny you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: that because Emily, welcome in. I know some people that
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  Speaker 1: did just that, really, because they were at the vineyard, okay,
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  Speaker 1: filming it.
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  Speaker 2: So we have a little story before we get into
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  Speaker 2: our recap. I actually made a note of it, Emily.
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  Speaker 2: So Emily told me an interesting story yesterday. So this
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  Speaker 2: episode they went to a.
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  Speaker 1: Equality wide, so they haven't gone to the vineyard yet. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: vineyard that will be on next episode you.
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  Speaker 2: Russian River, Yes, okay, next up.
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  Speaker 1: And so my my cousins in laws were there the
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  Speaker 1: day that they filmed, Hi, Eileen and Sean, and they
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  Speaker 1: were giving me the load down.
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  Speaker 2: Sean, what's up?
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  Speaker 1: They were giving me the lowdown on this was back
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  Speaker 1: in June. They were like, we went to this vineyard
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  Speaker 1: and they were filming. What was it? What was it?
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives? It was Real Housewives. I was like, of
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  Speaker 1: they were like, they finally put it together. It was
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  Speaker 1: Orange County. And then they were like, I mean they
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  Speaker 1: were filming for a long time and we were, you know,
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  Speaker 1: given instructions, we didn't know, and it was like really
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  Speaker 1: fun for them. Obviously it would be fun for anybody
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  Speaker 1: would Yeah, I mean gorgeous. But the best was that
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  Speaker 1: they said, well, the gals were arguing, so I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if they'll actually use that. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: that'll be in or not, because they weren't getting it
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  Speaker 1: didn't seem like they were getting along, so I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if they're not friends. I was like, yes, tune in,
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  Speaker 1: you guys will be in that shot. So yeah, and.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, yeah, it works opposite. That is exactly
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  Speaker 2: what they're looking for and waiting for. I love that
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  Speaker 2: they were so hum naive to know how this show
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  Speaker 2: works and how these shows work.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I just love that.
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  Speaker 1: I know. So they were so I was forwarded an
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  Speaker 1: email from their daughter Mora about from the vineyard because
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  Speaker 1: the Sean and Eileen got a message from the Vineyard
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  Speaker 1: that was promoting these next two episodes that they would
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  Speaker 1: be featured in the Real Housewives of Orange County.
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  Speaker 2: I see wow. I followed up, that's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Eileen like, I don't have Bravo. Do you
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  Speaker 1: know anyone that has Bravo? Eileen? Eileen, I love you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this is amazing. She's gonna be knocked out, like,
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  Speaker 2: is she gonna watch last night's episode to get prepared
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  Speaker 2: or is she just gonna watch next week?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? I think they watched last night and they're going
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  Speaker 1: to watch next week because the Vineyard didn't know when
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  Speaker 1: they would be on now. In the pictures that the
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  Speaker 1: Vineyard posted, and also the Vineyard said, as the hell
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  Speaker 1: his wife say, pop some of our wines to really
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  Speaker 1: whoop it up. And I'm like, Vicky says that vineyard.
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  Speaker 2: Says that, not how vineyard. Okay, the house I just
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  Speaker 2: don't say that it's me. I'd be original og of
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  Speaker 2: the cee. You catch it that that's just anybody I do. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The pictures that the Vineyard posted, it's Jen Alexa and
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  Speaker 1: Katie Alexa. So, oh my gosh, alexis I will do
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  Speaker 1: it every time.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's hilarious. No, I actually like.
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  Speaker 1: That, and she just turned on.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I am a real housewife of Orange County. What
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  Speaker 2: is your question for me?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't believe I haven't done it more
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  Speaker 1: this season. But anyway, so I don't know. When I
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  Speaker 1: saw I was like Jen. Now that, now that we
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  Speaker 1: know how much Heather was separating the groups, I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is a mix because Katie's in there too.
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  Speaker 2: Who could possibly mm hmmmm wow. And this vineyard is
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  Speaker 2: Russian river, right, I mean I am saying the right one.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that on your.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's the walk.
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  Speaker 2: Great, great, Yeah, it's a good winery because.
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  Speaker 1: They went to yeah, they went to Equality Wines in
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  Speaker 1: this past episode. Yeah, and then this is coming up.
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  Speaker 2: This is coming up. Stay tuned. Alexa is going to
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  Speaker 2: join the rest. I am so sick of Johnny ruining
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  Speaker 2: Wait sorry, oh, I fund that off. I am so
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  Speaker 2: sick of Shannon ruining Johnny Jay's reputation. I will do anything.
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  Speaker 2: I will cut a bitch. I am here to seek
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  Speaker 2: revenge for Johnny j Alexa.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot how good your Alexa impression is.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow? Oh yeah, thanks.
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  Speaker 1: The best thing about it is it sounds so much
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  Speaker 1: like but Alexa. Mm hmm. But it uh, it's how alexis.
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  Speaker 1: It's the capacity of her brain. Yeah, it is so
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  Speaker 1: perfectly it does.
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  Speaker 2: I I, Alexa. I I don't want to deal with you.
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  Speaker 2: I will be following you around. Please take this speaker.
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  Speaker 2: I have something else to say, Tamara, Tamara, take the speaker.
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  Speaker 2: She has to be lugged around from room to room.
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  Speaker 2: I am not going to have a one on one
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  Speaker 2: with you. Stop bringing Tamra. Stop bringing this speaker in
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  Speaker 2: this room with me. I don't want to talk to it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Shannon, but door, there is the door.
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  Speaker 2: There is the door, Shannon, butdor.
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  Speaker 1: AnyWho?
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  Speaker 2: Great? Okay. Also another quick update about what we were
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  Speaker 2: talking about last week on the Heels of the Traders
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  Speaker 2: at thesisode, with you know, Teddy being there and we
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  Speaker 2: were talking. You were saying like, oh, she totally knew
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  Speaker 2: they planned that push in the pool, right, Yeah, So
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  Speaker 2: I guess they had spoken about it somewhere, probably on
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  Speaker 2: their podcast. To test in the pot, to test in
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  Speaker 2: the put but I guess they said to teas in
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  Speaker 2: a pusset, to in a pest.
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  Speaker 1: Where is she? Where is there for going that she
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  Speaker 1: has to talk that beast.
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  Speaker 2: I guess Teddy No, wait, Teddy said something along the
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  Speaker 2: lines of the But they did speak about pushing someone
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  Speaker 2: in the pool. They had that conversation, but they never
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  Speaker 2: talked about who was going to do it or when
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  Speaker 2: or what.
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  Speaker 1: So they talked about pushing one or the other end.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that's correct. I didn't hear it with my
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  Speaker 2: own ears.
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  Speaker 1: That is planning it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, OK, one, so you have confirmation. So I want
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  Speaker 2: you to know that you were right. You were right.
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  Speaker 1: And hats off to them for admitting it, honestly, like, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: So glad they's fine. Yeah, it does, thank you, it does.
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  Speaker 2: It clears it up.
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  Speaker 1: Because if they would have been denying it, it would
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  Speaker 1: have I just don't think I would have been able.
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  Speaker 1: I would have had a hard time trusting in general.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, sure, guys, it's a hat one today. It's
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  Speaker 2: going to be one hundred and ten up here in
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  Speaker 2: Santa Clarites.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, they're cutting your power off?
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  Speaker 2: Uh not yet. They haven't said anything about it, so
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  Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. I don't know, are they how
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  Speaker 2: what are you guys looking at?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. If you guys are familiar
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  Speaker 1: with Santa Clarita.
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  Speaker 2: It goes up to one hundred and eight eight to ten.
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  Speaker 2: I may be exaggerating anyway, what about you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it said it was one oh five yesterday, but
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad. It was like pretty, I mean
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  Speaker 1: it was it was hot.
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  Speaker 2: You're like Sarah in Dubai. I like to spend my
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  Speaker 2: summers in Dubai at one hundred and twenty degrees. It's
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  Speaker 2: so relaxing. Just so, all the darlings one watching this
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  Speaker 2: over on Patreon that is today one ten, tomorrow one
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  Speaker 2: oh nine, and broh, it was so funny. He's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: Saturday is going to beautiful one five?
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  Speaker 1: Are you six o five? Oh god? Yeah. I I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like we get carryover heat in
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  Speaker 1: terms of what it says it is, because it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: feel like it says it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't have the humidity, which is a great thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, Well, I think we need to really welcome
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  Speaker 2: ourselves in Hi to Orange County. We need to start
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  Speaker 2: talking about it. Oh but duh what an episode?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean because there was just speaking of like
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  Speaker 1: this is why in Orange County when someone gets pushed
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  Speaker 1: in a pool and it's planned. You know it, because
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  Speaker 1: so much on this show is real.
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  Speaker 3: Rah, that's the rahasas Orange County.
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  Speaker 2: Am I sorry?
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  Speaker 1: And you can compare to any of the other kingdoms
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  Speaker 1: of housewives and you can you just get that this
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  Speaker 1: is real.
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  Speaker 2: Rah, You just get it. I mean we've got Heather
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  Speaker 2: and Terry, Ace and Kat and someone else. I can't
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  Speaker 2: remember the boy's.
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  Speaker 1: Name, Ace. Oh yeah, you said Ace, Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Ace? No, no, the older boy?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, right, my god, how forgetting this?
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  Speaker 1: But you know what, here's the thing. I know that
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  Speaker 1: my first inclination is to be like, oh cool, here's
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  Speaker 1: another scene where Terry and Heather talk about how insanely
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  Speaker 1: awesome their life is. Every one of their scenes ends
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 1: But then at the same time, if they were complaining
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  Speaker 1: about anything, I'd be like, you guys should just say
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  Speaker 1: how great your life is constantly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we would have a problem with that. Nick his
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  Speaker 2: name is Nick. I'm so sorry about.
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  Speaker 1: That, thank you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Right? And uh and and really again, this is
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  Speaker 2: it's great. Heather's angle on this show and her platform
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  Speaker 2: for this is all about you know, equality and inclusivity
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  Speaker 2: and you know, gender accept acceptance, and she continues to
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  Speaker 2: do that season after season since she's returned, and and
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  Speaker 2: I really applaud her, especially with the Family Equality joint
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  Speaker 2: collaboration and everything she's doing for them with their champagnes
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  Speaker 2: and donating one hundred percent of that bringing the ladies
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  Speaker 2: down there, it really does, you know, it gets exposure
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  Speaker 2: to that. We're talking about the the Florida overturning the
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: Don't Say Gay and that they won their lawsuit. So
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  Speaker 2: it's really putting it out there for all of us
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  Speaker 2: to see. And I really appreciate that about Heather. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's she's done.
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  Speaker 1: Said one percent of the proceeds go to this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, I just want to figure out because
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  Speaker 1: we just had this whole thing with Jersey and jen
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  Speaker 1: Aden and Danielle and paying for the event. What who's
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: paid for that price of a jet ride to Sonoma?
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  Speaker 1: Is what I want to know? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I mean because it's part of the event Sonoma.
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  Speaker 2: They were in Georgia, are you talking about when they
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  Speaker 2: go to the Russian River place?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, where the girls trip is. But I'm saying, like,
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  Speaker 1: who's paying for Heather to fly private with the wives.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's her plane. I mean, that's her plane.
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  Speaker 1: But it's still right even if it's your plane, that's a.
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  Speaker 2: I think they would write that off. They would probably
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  Speaker 2: write off the gas and whatever percentage of the plane
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  Speaker 2: for charity. That would be how you would do so.
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  Speaker 1: The even though it's technically Bravo filming, Yeah, it's for work, kay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that you know, Jennaden's gonna ask, you know,
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Jenaiden's gonna ask.
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  Speaker 2: It's just gonna ask.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, well, scrappy do in the plane that doesn't come out?
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  Speaker 1: And my book and you know what.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: Like to cook books.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, when my husband's in the poolhouse, you know, I'm
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: in the door caps you know, pep up.
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  Speaker 2: Boo boopie do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, prohibition so whibition real mesh.
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  Speaker 1: Him up in the charities. I don't even know what.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's kind of But the other thing
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  Speaker 2: is like it makes me want to go and do.
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  Speaker 1: Well are you doing that? You do it?
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  Speaker 2: So?
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: On your your private jet, I serve you. I'd be
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  Speaker 3: a cheap stew on your private jet.
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  Speaker 2: Jet. U.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, I just wanted to know, like, yes, I had questions.
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  Speaker 2: I think you make a good point. So we do
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  Speaker 2: get that whole heather packing with white tissue paper, which
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  Speaker 2: I know we've seen before.
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  Speaker 1: Which I'm like, maybe think about an environmental charity. I
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: need trees have to die. When she goes on it overnight, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because it was fresh paper, I was like all about it.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, that is not what I do. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I've got tissue paper from like two thousand and six,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, that has been recycled. And
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: I don't give two shits when it comes to when
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Maddie's this young, like just shoving shit in there, I'm like,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: she doesn't care it is not pretty. I mean, when
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: I go to a birthday party, I'm definitely going to
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  Speaker 2: I will make it look a lot better if it's
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  Speaker 2: not a family member.
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  Speaker 1: Like a tissue paper from twenty twelve.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll up. I might even go into the twenties, twenties,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: you know, twenty twenties, I might, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I reused that stuff till
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  Speaker 1: the end of time.
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  Speaker 2: If you can't, no, I hear you, I hear you.
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  Speaker 2: I just bought a bunch of ribbon at a garage
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  Speaker 2: sale last year.
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  Speaker 1: Oh nice, yeah, smart, that's where you do it.
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  Speaker 2: And wrapping paper they didn't have any. I haven't found
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  Speaker 2: any wrapping paper at garage sales at this point, but
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: that's a great place to get it. Mm hm, well,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that we could. You know, instead of talking
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: about Channon in this lawsuit, let's talk about recycled wrapping paper.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: That's a wrap spelled with a W. Hi. I'm Emily
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: and this is Amy. We're here to ram it up.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Is that Joe?
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Oh boy?
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, before we get into that, let's we have to
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: talk about Emily calling measurements measurements. I mean, it's so
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: cute and so funny and I just love her so much.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, measurements.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: And I'm from Michigan, so I mean I get measurements
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  Speaker 2: is pretty far from is like way out there for
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: what I even we would do.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was like western Pennsylvania.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that does sound more like uhh yes, that totally
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: sounds more like.
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  Speaker 1: That because growing up like that's my family was from
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: my dad's side of the family's from western Pennsylvania, and
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I always thought they were called red delicious apples. I
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: didn't know they were red delicious. So but in my head,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like, measurements delicious, Like that sounds like.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Wash, I have to go wash the class.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's more Philly.
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  Speaker 2: But right, so I don't know who brought it over
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: to Ohio. Yeah, we need answers, okay, yes, measurements Yeah
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: you do, okay. So then we have Jen facetiming with Katie.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: She's going to be going to court. It's taken four years,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: which makes sense because this all happened their separation and
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: their divorce was beginning during the pandemic. So it's interesting
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: to see how like they're just now getting to it
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  Speaker 2: four years later. And this is for temporary support and alimony.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: It's not even like for the permanent thing. So she's
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: going to get she's very upset, she's crying, she's going
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: to get to the gal's trip late, and she just
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: had her mediation. What ended up happening is that she
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: did get what six thousand a month for the kids? Yeah, yeah, yeah, which.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was keeping prize that the fallout with will.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I really was under the impression that everything was like
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: very good between them, and so to have her say, like,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't even look at me. I don't know what
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: happened if that's something that happened after she started filming
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: the show, Like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. I well, I mean he stopped paying her
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: mortgage or his percentage of the mortgage. So things hit
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the fan rent sorry the rent? Right?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so something happened and he was passed.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Where Okay, So this this was the other thing that
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: was confusing to me. I was always I always I
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: forgot this or didn't know or whatever. But so she
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: moved to California with Will Is that correct? Because she
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: talked about adopting their son in the same courtroom as
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the divorce and then I'm like, are they divorcing in
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: California divorce?
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  Speaker 2: Hold on a second. Did she say the last time
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  Speaker 2: I was in a courtroom with him was when we
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: do this exact courtroom, this exact courtroom.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, that's what she said. And it was
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  Speaker 1: really quick, and I was like, wait.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well they okay, so maybe they had to go
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: to California to adopt him. Maybe he was from California
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the child Okay, because they did not move to California together,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I know you know what, I could be dead wrong.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I do know that Will was down there with her
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: at times to open up right the yoga studio. So yeah,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: you know what, we do not have answers on this,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and this is a mystery we will not be able
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: to unfold right now. But you bring up a great point.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: The good news is all of this was told to
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: us when we didn't give two shits about Jen, and
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: now we care, and now we want.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: To and now we want to know the timeline screenshots. Yeah, receipts.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I would be Bravo really needs to. If they're going
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: to introduce a new wife, they actually need to reintroduce
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: her the second season she's on because we don't. I
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: don't pay attention to anything the first season, I realized,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: and then once I'm invested, I needed to hear it
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: all again.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're like, great, okay, we'll see how you
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: stick to the wall. You know, So six thousand a month,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: which is obviously for these ladies, they're.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Like, you know that's not much God bless, I mean comes, so,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: how many kids does she have?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Four?
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Or five?
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: So that's like like a little over one thousand dollars
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: per kid. Per month. So that's that's really tough.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Is it.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: No, it's not.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: It not for me.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I would be like live in the I would. Yeah,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: but if they're like in private schools or you know,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: but food, the food is very expensive. You can spend
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: six thousand dollars for six kids for food in one month.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Oh I'm not saying you couldn't. I'm just saying, like,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: it's not a lot. Yeah, it's not a lot. But
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: to Tamor, I think to Tamar's point, she's like, this
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: is going to mean Jen or Tamara or Emily said
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: about Jen with the six thousand a month that this
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: will push her back from getting a job because she'll
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: just use that.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, because she doesn't have to pay a mortgage.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: She's going to be living with Ryan and that's that. Okay, well,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: all right, so let's move on to Heather's private jet.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: And I love that she had a seating chart. Very smart,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: very smart. Yeah.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Producers were probably like, are you kidding Meeathery's like, I
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: do not want this plane to go down, So I'm
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: going to be putting Alexis here and Shannon there. Yeah,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to look at Katie and.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: You have stations over here for monogramming your foreheads if
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: you want over here are your uh? Is this a
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: hypnosis station done by Swans. They put their beaks up
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: to your forehead and they can read your mind and
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: tell you through hypnosis what you need to not be
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: doing or doing over here.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Anyway else like a thirty minute flight, it's like less
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: than an hour that flight Halloa, Soma.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you keep saying Sonoma. They were in Georgia.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: No, they're in Napa Valley.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: No they're not.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Are you sure?
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I'm positive they are in Georgia.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Posit for a sec. Okay, I gotta.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, you guys, I'm just sorry. I mean, you know,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Okay, I thought I saw Georgia. I thought
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: they went in Georgia.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: But they're not.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, at least right, they were in Sonoma. And and
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Heathers keep saying what she keeps saying, how so that's
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: how I don't know what I saw. Well, the town
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: starts with the g that that's exactly.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Right, and it's I forget the name of the exact town.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: It's like g U e R that's likeny whatever. Where? Well, yeah,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and I thought it said Georgia. Oh, I bet, I
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: just need to wear my glasses. That's probably what it is.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Overnight, I've had to start wearing readers. I'm gonna treat
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: the darlings very soon because I am having a harder
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: and harder time. It happened overnight.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I hear you. No, I I had to start wearing
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: readers a couple of years ago. But now I'm talking
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Now I have to watch them while I'm watching TV.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: This is insane.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe you need to wear your glass I need.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I was that song?
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Oh Ozzy Osborne.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I I I.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Hi Hi.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, guys, let's get back onto this. Now that
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: we've back to Tunoma. They're on the jet, they have
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: their they have a good time. They even did like
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: a video like a tiktoki sort of trendy video that
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: they were all posting yesterday to promote the show. Yeah,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: they all came together for the cameras. Pretty impressive. So
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: then they get to the Georgia cabins. That's what I
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: have written.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Oh can't you see sevens Georgia cabins. Well, maybe one
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: of the cabins was named Georgia. Benefit of the Doubt
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: for Miss Phillips.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I'm losing it, Okay, go ahead.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: On the plane with the drama kicked up about John's shoes,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: yes I was, And they were all kind of giving
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Shannon shit that she would have picked up on that,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: every single one of them on that plane and on
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: this podcast and listening to this podcast. If your ex
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: was posted in a major news article wearing something you
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: gave them, you'd be like, oh shit, I gave him that.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, those are the shoes I bought the him,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: like you would. I don't care if it was like
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: a watch, shoes, whatever, you would be like, oh, this motherfucker.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: He's wearing something I gave him with another woman.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: That's that is so trashy.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: The fact that that Tamor of all people, was like
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I can't bloa Shannon's cucku coo well livingly to look up.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, are you kidding?
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: No? And apparently maybe even the belt to which didn't
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: even get highlighted on this that was a throw ish
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: and a belt I I I kep from the belt too.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Just shame. It was in the beginning. It was in
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: the beginning. It was in the beginning. Yeah, I mean,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: it's like it's I'm sorry, it's ridiculous. And the fact
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: that the night before they had their debut at an
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Oscar party event where they're at a step and repeat,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: and then the day after they are on a plane
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: together to go to a cast trip. This is too
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: much to handle.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: The funny thing about that is I don't know why
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I remember that being posted, because we were probably talking
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: about it and I just this is insane. But I
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: just remember Alexis is one toe popping off that shoe,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I remember that.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I guess, yes, the rogue toe that's trying to get away,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: which you know, I'm sure a lot of people deal
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: with that. I don't because I'm not wearing those types
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: of shoes, but I don't. I wonder what would happen.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: You know, I totally would. I mean, like my wide feet,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: so I'm like, very Oh, if you're going to wear
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: like a narrow top, get ready for the you know
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a thing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: It's crazy how many women do not care and they
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: just let that toe just go on its own, just
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: take its own journey outside my shoe, and then go
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: and get photos taken of them on red carpets like
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: celebrities do not care.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think because when you're putting them
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: on and not mindful or putting them on and you
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: are mindful and cute, you're you control it. But then
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: like you get out there and you can't. Oh no,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: did I lose you? No for a second.
• 29:03
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  Speaker 2: get into Orange County and their separate groups at lunch.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: So Shannon orders a Shannon Shannon orders a Shannon Shannon
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: orders a vodka soda cran. Otherwise it's on a vacation. Yeah,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: And it's tough to see this happen here because you're like,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: you know, what are you doing? And then of course
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: fast to the you know, later on in this episode,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: and she's a mess, and you think, gosh, I wish
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't have ordered that vodka and cran, you know.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Needless to say, that's out there. I'm gonna put that
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: out there. And they're talking about how John has sold
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: one of his companies. He he owned an insurance company
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I believe a.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Part part of one or something.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, part of one, and so Shannon is saying, like,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: he doesn't really need this money for this lawsuit, so like,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: why is he doing this? Shannon talks about how the
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: deadline is today to respond and that she countered it
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: half as we know she offered like thirty thousand or something,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: and the ladies Gina's like, there's a good amount.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: That's a fair amount. That's like what I would make
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: book a mission when I'm selling Realivate at all really
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: big house.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: And so we know that's out there, right, So that's
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: all percolating. In the meantime, we have the other group,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: you know, like Heather and Alexis and camera over there
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: talking about their stuff, and Alexis says to the gals,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: you know, I told Johnny Jay, let's just settle, like
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: and she says that she was trying to convince him
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: let's just settle, which was really interesting to hear. I
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: was glad to hear that, and that John's response was no,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: after everything I've gone through, No, unless they come back
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: with something really good, then John will file a lawsuit.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: This is so upsetting to watch that somebody like Alexis
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: would not see this as such a red flag in
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: a man.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but I think Alexis is the kind of
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: person that sees that as strength and attractive, Like I
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: think she likes that kind of yeah, which I have
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: to say because I will rail on Alexis all day
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: and all night I'm not a fan, but I will
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: give her credit. She redeemed herself by two points out
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: of one thousand. By the way, she's an advocate for
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: her kids in what would normally be very controversial within
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: her church. Absolutely, and we know how hard she goes
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: for her church. And I don't know Jimbollino, but I
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: would assume that coming from the Alexis we knew when
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: she was with Jimbollino. To now I admire that, And
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: so it does show that she can evolve, and I'm
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: glad that she did it and has her kids back. Yeah,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: now I'm back to her being.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: But I also give her a point. I give her
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: also a point for saying that she tried to say one,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: don't we just settle? Meaning I love how she says
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: we as if she has something to do with it.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: That.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I'll give her a half a point for that. I mean,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's really true, but I mean
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I'm taking her for her word, so then you.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Know it could be true, but it could have been
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: really just she could have it just dipping her that
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: rogue toe in the water of saying like maybe we
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: should back off.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, right, Yeah, And then Alexis says in her confessional
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: that Shannon has ruined his reputation in the community. And
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going you realize you're on the Real House Lives
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: of Orange County, right, none of you have a chance
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: of having any kind of good reputation in your community.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: That ship has sailed, Okay, that boat has sailed.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Do you think that? Do you think that they have
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: a bad reputation? Shannon, given her latest ask the do.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I or do I think that the Real House Sizes
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: of Orange County have a bad reputation in their community?
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Like you really think that?
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Yes? Hmmm, because they're on a trashy reality show.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I bet I bet the community kind
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: of loves it. They love to hate it.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because Orange County is kind of trashy anyway. I
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: don't want to say trashy. I'll say cheesy. I'll say, uh,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I think there's a thirsty community. You know, it's all
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: about show. It's all about you know, just you know,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: what's on the outside, keeping up with the Jones. So
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: if they are influenced, So yeah, it's not like a
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: quiet community. So maybe they actually think, you know, reputation
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: is more about money. So I think, what to your point,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: if we were to really, you know, zoom in on this,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Johnny Jay's reputation has been ruined in the community by
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: way of him looking like a woman is paying for him.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: So it's all about money. So yes, so I'll go
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: ahead and stick with that. Now we get to this
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: perfume and massage thing or whatever that was.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, I was.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know what we were making. I don't know.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: You pick your favorite scent and why, and then you
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: put it in the oils and then that goes in
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: the bathtub. I think, okay, So I mean Emily for
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: the win of like, the woman's like, tell me your
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: favorite scent. By the way, she was not. It was
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: just so funny because you usually get these hosts being like, hi,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: welcome in, tell me your favorite cent and why mine
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: is jasmine because you know, for example, but she was like, hey,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I'm mad, Jody, the fuck is your favorite cent? And
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: just go ahead and tell me why?
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Tell me why. You did not tell me why.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: And she was so pissed because Emily got cute and
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: she was like, oh, you mean like tacos. And then
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: the lady's like fucking really funny. Great, Like I don't
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: hear that every time, Like I don't hear that every week?
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Smart ass. Yeah, I'll give you tacos, but tell me why.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: So she had she was coming in with a little
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: spice on her shoulder, and then Gina's like, I got
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: a new puppy, and then we got into that, which
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: is interesting because she doesn't she didn't see how this
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: would be seen from the perspective of Travis. And when
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Emily was like, so, you don't understand how Travis to
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: seize this as like you leave, he leaves, and you're
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: making construction, and you know, it's like it's because it's
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: so obvious to us. You know, he was out. I
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: mean the way it's edited. He left one day and
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: then the next thing, you know, it's like you came in,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: like recke Well and they're just tearing it to shit
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: and she's trying to make new memories. And then meanwhile
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Travis is like, uh, I thought we were going to
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: try to get back together and live together, and now
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: you're investing in your home. Yeah, yeah, kind of funny.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I have to laugh a little bit about it.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I wonder if they
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: were planning to do this construction and they have to
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: live separately. So then Gina is spinning it in this
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: way because there is something about it that is odd.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: They weren't planning on doing that construction at all, because
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: the reason why they're doing it now is to expand
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: the rooms for the kids so they have more space.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, and that's why I'm saying, like.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: It would have taken rooms away from if they stayed there.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, that's true, that's true.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, hearing about her daughter and you
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: know she's having a hard time and she does and
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: do well with transition and changes, and you know that
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: is something that obviously we were expressing our concern about
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: for all the kids, and you know, we're seeing it.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: And I appreciate her being honest about that, because she
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: could easily bury that and not discuss how this is
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: difficult on the kids for the sake of justifying her choices.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: But she's I mean, yeah, she's sharing it. But also,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: like they filmed, when they were filming, and they cut
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: back to that scene, So I wonder if Gina's like, Okay,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I've got to acknowledge this. I wonder if it wasn't
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: being filmed, if Gina would have acknowledged it on camera,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: just like also to protect them.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: To protect them. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, So now we get
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: the bomb that has dropped, and by Gina, by Gina,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: and that was a genuine mistake.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, her face was she was like, I can't believe
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: this is the unfair everything he's doing.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: And then of she caught it as she started to
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: say Vin.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: And then the whole vating yeah dad, yeah, yeah, and
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: then Shannon was like, what video.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, she caught it so fast.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: And Gene's the only one not drinking, and she's no
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: one like, okay, here it is.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she starts and Katie's like, Katie goes in, Katie
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: just full on.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Well after Shandon says what video, what video? What video?
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Name him? Name him name, like, she says what video
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: forty three.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Times yeah, and no one's saying anything.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's why I was like, oh, this is real,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: this is real.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: I was like, someone gives Shannon a beta blocker stat
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: hook and hook her up to an IV. You can't
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: deliver this information like this, this is oh god. I'm
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: like having hot. I'm breaking out in hives just thinking
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: about it, putting myself in their situation and in Gina's.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: And it also made me wonder. You know, by the
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: end of that scene, which we will dissect in a second,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: when Shannon says like, thank you for telling me this,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I just thought, why hasn't anyone told Shannon this? This
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: is insane, Like they've waited this long and they were
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: still going to hide it from her, and I I
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: don't think that that's right. I think like Heather New
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: and Gina knew, and they both should have told Shannon
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: at this point.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I agree. I didn't understand why they weren't saying it anyway.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: It's not like Alexis is being quiet about it. She
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: clearly wants to introduce us to the show, and so
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: why has no Like you would think Tamra would have
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: mentioned it, like when she had that that time with Shannon,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Like I don't guess did.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: She know at that time, at that lunch about the video?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: At that lunch, I don't think she did. She know?
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: No at the well, that dinner that reckon didn't they have?
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: It was the dinner after the girls trip because Tamara
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: found out at the Girls Trip or no, I take
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: that back. Tamara knew before anybody because when Alexis mentioned
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: it on the Girl's Trip and their bear costumes, Tama
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: spoke on it because she and she's like, yes, I
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: know about the videos because I'm following that I've not
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: watched them. This was in her interview. I've not watched them.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: So Tamra's known for a long time about these.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't surprise me that Tammar wouldn't say anything.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: That's not a shocker.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: It surprises me that Tammer didn't say anything once she
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: found out Shannon was getting sued.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I suppose, but at that point and even still like,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I think she was gonna let it, let the storyline
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: take over at that point, and she I think personally
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: with Heather not saying anything, it's it's disturbing to me
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: because here she is, you know, ripping Gina a new
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: one about how Katie did all this and then didn't
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: tell her. You should have given me a heads up,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: you should have told me, you should have told me,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: And now here she is with this information about the videos,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: and is Shannon really her friend? Why didn't she tell her?
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: And Gina Gina should tell her. Oh yeah, yeah, So
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: okay it slipped out. Thank god it did, because this
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: affects the negotiation, because Shannon got right the hell up
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: and was like, I'll go tell him he can have
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: whatever he wants. Yeah, so that changed everything. It and
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: the fact that John wasn't saying he had this. Obviously
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: the lawyer probably said don't say it because it'll come
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: across as extortion if you do. But now we know
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: maybe they didn't want to get their hands dirty because
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: it would be illegal issue. Maybe if you break it down,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: maybe Heathery knew better. If I'm giving her the benefit
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: of the doubt, maybe she knew there's a lawsuit or
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: John is threatening this this and that if there's a video,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get my hands dirty and this
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: could connect me with extortion in some way. That is
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: the only thing I can think of that she and
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Gina maybe didn't say it, but Shannon's so Katie.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I get the feeling Katie has seen the video, do you,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Because I don't know. I can see Tamara legit not
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: wanting to see the video and not watching the video.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I think Tamara would tell us if she's seen the
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: video I don't, but Katie hasn't denied it, but she's
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: speaking to it in her interview as though.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, I don't. I think that she
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: hasn't seen it. I don't think they would show it
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: to her. And I do think that if Tamra knew,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: if Tama did see it, she would absolutely never say
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: anything because she doesn't want to be in law involved
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: in a lawsuit. Because it comes down to it's that whole, uh,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: you know, that revenge porn thing in a way like
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: you're forwarding now, you're forwarding video footage of somebody that
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: was being filmed without their coscent, consent or knowledge. But
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: on that note, I will say, you know, the Bravo
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Docket just put up an episode about the extortion, you know,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: situation between John and Shannon, and I'm only hearing parts
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: of it because I've only started listening to it, but
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: I kind of skipping around. But when it comes to
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: video and audio recording someone without their knowledge, in California,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: there are certain laws, so it's very possible that it's
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: the ring footage would be okay to have done, you know.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: So anyway, there's all of this stuff, and I don't know,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I haven't finished the episode. That being said, Tamar probably
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: knows all this, doesn't want to get involved.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Is this a new episode of the Docket? I listened
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: to the other one? Okay?
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Cool? Oh well no, wait, I don't know. Did you
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: listen to the one it is?
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I think it is. I see there's a new app.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, hot, so check that out. But so
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: when Shannon says her response, they have video from the
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: night of the Dui, and then she is like, oh
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: my god, and she breaks down. He's a monster. She
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: calls her lawyer. But you know, Katie wasn't able to
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: confirm that that video footage was from the night of
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: the Dui necessarily, and from our understanding, we were assuming
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: that it could be from other times, other nights when
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: when she almost ran over John's daughter, So like, was
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: it that night allegedly? Yeah? Allegedly so, I mean, from
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: what my understanding, John's daughter wasn't there that night of
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: the duy okay, so it's right, So it has to
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: be video footage from another time, not necessarily.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Well, got kind of confirmation on that, like, because Alexis
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: said on the Girl's Trip, it's not just that she
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: she did say something along the lines of it's multiple
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: things or it's multiple times.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Shannon at this point just thinks it's from the Night
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: of the d UI. So so now, you know.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Like, knowing Alexis and knowing Johnny j I'm kind of like,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: it's probably not that bad. They are ye, yeah, in
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: an echo chamber watching it and thinking like and then
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, look, she almost hit my daughter and
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: the daughters like in the yard, and Shannon's hands are
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: on the wheel and it looks like she's turning that way,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: but then she starts the car and goes the opposite way,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: like right, I don't know.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I can see there being a lot of exaggeration for
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: the sake of again allegedly and what it looks like extortion,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: even though they haven't approached Shannon about it. That's why
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: the video is not involved in any of the conversations
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: and why she doesn't know so after she leaves, you know,
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: by the way, I had to look up where we
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: are in this lawsuit because I was like, so if Shannon,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: as we see in this episode, offers him whatever it
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: is that he wants, so then she's going to pay
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: him seventy five thousand dollars. That's what it sounds like.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: That was what she offered, and also that they would
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: both basically sign an NDA about their relationship and he
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: turned it down.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, So and then in this article from people, it's
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: saying that was posted, like you know, nine hours ago.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: It says something along the lines of how John is
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: waiting for one more thing from her in this lawsuit,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: but it's not done yet, so it must be the
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: taking away the NDA.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Right, well, right, because this is this was being this
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: was a settlement, This was settling out prior to him
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: filing a lawsuit what we're watching on the show.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Right, No, I'm talking about deadline? So now in.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Real now yeah, now the lawsuit I guess went forward.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: M yep.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I can't imagine what her court costs. Well,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I mean what her lawyer for you is on?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: So they it's gone, it's on. And what is happening
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: is that he's waiting for one more thing. So if
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: he's not willing to sign an NDA, what's interesting to
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: me is it's like, what are you going to do
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: with this information? If you're not going to sign an
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: NDA and you have dirt on Shannon and that's what
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: she's trying to protect herself from him speaking against her.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Is she willing to sign an NDA for him? That's
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: the question I have.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she did. She said they would both do it.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, and he won't give into that. What
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: are you gonna do? John? What are you gonna do
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: with this information? You don't want to move on? You
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: want to keep holding on to this and then what
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: go to the public whenever you want to? At some point.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Well, now that we're talking about this out loud, I
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: wonder if he's being advised not to do it, because
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: by saying, yeah, I'll sign this stuff, then it is
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: kind of an argument for extortion because then he is
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: using that video to get his money that he you know. So,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: But if he's saying, it's not about this video, I'm
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: just owed this money. It has nothing to.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Do with the video, right right, Yes.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: So I wonder if he's kind of right, it's like
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: a catch twenty two because if he does that, then
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Shannon could counter suit for extortion. Maybe I got interesting.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: There's two episodes on Bravo docket. I listened to the
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: first one and then the new one is about extortion,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: and that's the one I haven't listened to, so I
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: wonder what they'll say.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, great, Okay, now let's move on to the last topic,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: which is Shannon goes and tell it, talks to Heather.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: She says that she's Shannon says, I'm not lying. I
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: paid for him from the beginning, and then she brings
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: up this whole situation about the three to five seconds
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: that she left the house and hit the left his
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: house and then hit the other house.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, right, is Caddy cornered from John's or like visible
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: from John's? I was confused by that.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's visible. I think that it's very
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: close by, like I remember seeing it kind of winds
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: around the road, winds around the corner from John.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: So, okay, well, he certainly would have heard siren.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: So here's this is very interesting. It's an interesting case
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: that she's putting forward that shows a lot of his character. Allegedly,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: So if she hit that house within three to five
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: seconds of leaving his, he didn't hear that, And then
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: she sent him the picture and he didn't get that.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: I find that extremely hard to believe. And from what
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: I think is that the fact that he responded at
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: one forty in the morning because the police went to
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: his house with Archie. He was trying to, in my
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: opinion and allegedly keep his hands clean from being associated
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: with that at the.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Set the time tibe.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at the expense of her What if she died?
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: What if somebody genuinely got hurt in that?
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I guess like, yeah, yeah, well that's true. Well, if
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I'm Johnny Jay also.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Want to go off.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Fuck no if I'm the one that let that woman
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: leave my house and drive. In terms of like I
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: don't want to get charged with something, not that that
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: could happen, but like I don't I'm just not you know,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: all of this could be argued in a court of
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: law all of a sudden, and I do not want
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: any part of that. So I can see him being
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: like lights out, covers up, I was in bed, what
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: with Archie?
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: What hell pussy ass move? Though? If you hear a
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: car crash.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, if you don't know if he heard I.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Know, I'm just saying if he heard that.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Well, also, I don't know what a car hitting a
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: house sounds like, and I honestly would think it was.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Wow pow planter.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much deniability on his end that
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I could.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Of course, of course.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: The picture also with the blood, like okay, I'm going
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: to give him the benefit of the doubt, Like if
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: this is Shannon's claim that he's a monster, because she
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: was shaking so hard when she was doing this, and
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering if that's this is the thing that she's
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: been talking about, it's not good enough for me in
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: terms of him being a monster. Because I just mentioned
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I overnight need readers. If I got that picture of Shannon,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: I would think it was like light, like a red
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: light reflected.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Come oh, come on, there's blood dripping down her face.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I am saying. If I passed out and I woke
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: up and I was like, let's just I don't Shannon say,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna look at this, like I don't
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: know I can see him, And then if I looked
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: at it quick, I'd be like, I don't know what
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: the hell she's is Halloween, I don't get it.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: And then I about that No, no, no, I'm going
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: to send you a picture of my bloody face later
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: and we'll see how you respond.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Wait, do it at like two am, after I've had
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of drinks.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, drinks. I mean that's the other thing John was.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: You know, maybe he was drinking. Maybe he passed out
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: for a little while and didn't and you know he
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: went maybe he went right inside. Shut the door. And
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: if you shut the door, you're not going to hear
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: the accident. You won't.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I honestly, Yeah, there's just too much deniability here for
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Shannon to make these assumptions unless there's something I'm not
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: understanding in terms.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Texted him at like midnight after it happened, a bloody
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: picture of her face.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I get it. I'm just saying, Look, I'm not a
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Johnny jay Stan. I just think in this way you.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Come over to our side. Okay, Well, I mean, what
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: do you guys think? These are all legend uh and
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: this is a mystery, you know.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I think I'm also trying to argue this in a
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: court of law.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: I think you make a great point. I think the
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: deniability thing is smart. I absolutely think like he could
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: have walked in the house didn't hear it. I also
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: think if he did hear it, as somebody who wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: want to be culpable to what happened there, they would
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  Speaker 2: not want to go But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: if that's somebody that you've been with for years, you're
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: not going to run over there out of concern. That's
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  Speaker 2: insane to me.
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  Speaker 1: I think at the I would never, in a million
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  Speaker 1: years think I heard that that must have been Shannon Badol.
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  Speaker 2: Of course you would. You you just watched a woman
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: leave your house completely blackout drunk.
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  Speaker 1: And you told her not before rite and then you.
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  Speaker 2: Hear a crash. Of course you're going to think it's her.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't think it was her one too. I wouldn't
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: think it was a crash. I wouldn't know what it was.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: My tip off if I was still awake, would be
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: hearing sirens that there was a localized accident. Now Emily
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: would get on Citizen at that point the app and
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: see what the hell's going on, and then I would
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: be like, oh shit, that's Shannon's car. Then I would know.
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  Speaker 2: No, I totally disagree. John has said to her many times,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: don't get in that vehicle. You're drunk. This has probably
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: happened many times, and they get in a fight.
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  Speaker 1: Says it straight into the ring camera so that he
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: gets off the hook. So Shannon never hears him say.
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  Speaker 2: It right, and then so he knows that she's gotten
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: in a car before after drinking, allegedly and probably and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: has probably said, what, you're gonna kill somebody, You're gonna
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: hurt yourself. Do not get in the car. Do not
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: get in the car. You're telling me that someone who's
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: begging somebody and has probably before, do not get in
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: a car. And if they hear the accident, are not
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: gonna think I told her and now she just crashed.
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  Speaker 1: No fucking way. I'm telling you I would never connect
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: that sound. And to my immediate circumstance, I would be like,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: oh if and that's if he heard it right.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just saying if he heard it right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all right, darling, just up to you. Well, let's go
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: get drunk.
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  Speaker 1: Let's test our theory.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Emily and I are going to reenact this like they do.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: On the serial podcast.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to reenact the whole thing. Who has a
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: BMW or Mercedes that they're willing to let us crash
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: and a home that we could a lantern and a plant.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah well look, look, my only argument for that is
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: it's not I don't think it. I think Shannon can
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: put her shoulders back a little bit. There's probably worse
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: things he has done. I didn't understand why she was
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: so violently shaking over that and filling in so many
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: of the details for herself to go there when I'm like,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: from the outside, I can see a lot of holes
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: in this story.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Well, she's just I mean, it's just hurtful and for
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: her to think of these things.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think that you add it all up
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: over their relationship and yeah, it was not.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Now her finding out there's a video, yeah, and like
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: it's just crazy and those handshakes were awful. Yeah, alright, kids,
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• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: And it is Friday. Yay, I'm so happy it's the weekend.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening, Darlings. Thanks Emily O Chimp
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Crazy on Monday, jimp Crazy, sorry forgot to plug that