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Marvel Gives the LNC Homework · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider podcast, a
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ariel Kasten, and with me as always is the amazing,
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  Speaker 1: wonderful Germ Berm.
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  Speaker 2: Death, please take a holiday.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Sorry, it's Jonathan Strickland. I just noticed the name.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Germ Berm is fine. Like, that's... Gerber, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: whenever I play video games, when you have to name
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  Speaker 2: your character, I usually name my character something like Gerber
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  Speaker 2: or something. So it's, which is John boy, but even
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of how we are with our dog Tybalt
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  Speaker 2: in that we have lots of pet names for him.
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  Speaker 2: We do call him Tybalt, but we call him lots
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  Speaker 2: of other things like Tibbers or Turbert or Toybert. Like
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  Speaker 2: it just, it gets more and more ridiculous and sounds
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  Speaker 2: less and less like a word. So I do that
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  Speaker 2: with my own name too.
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  Speaker 1: Harvey is often a Hergeberg or Bergberg bug or, uh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, it's like the old, the old Kurtaburger. Uh, yeah, we,
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  Speaker 2: we wanted to start off by talking a bit about,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, everyone has talked about it, but we wanted
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  Speaker 2: to just add our, our laudits, plaudits, laudits, laureates, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: We wanted to praise, uh, some people that we lost
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  Speaker 2: this past week, obviously Dolly Parton and Tim Curry, two
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  Speaker 2: incredibly prolific, talented people who have had an enormous impact
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  Speaker 2: on geek culture in various ways. And also Peter Cullen, who,
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  Speaker 2: whose name might not be as readily recognized, but also
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  Speaker 2: has had an enormous impact on geek culture. Cullen was
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  Speaker 2: the voice for Optimus Prime since the original animated series
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  Speaker 2: all the way up through the Michael Bay movies. He
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  Speaker 2: was also the voice of Eeyore for many years. And
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  Speaker 2: then he passed away this week. So he was 85.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty sad. So there are a lot of geeks
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  Speaker 2: who are sad about that. But then Dolly Parton and
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  Speaker 2: Tim Curry both were 80 when they passed this week
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  Speaker 2: and they both passed on the same day.
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  Speaker 1: They did, but Tim Curry's family, out of respect to
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  Speaker 1: Dolly Parton, waited to announce his death until a day later,
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  Speaker 1: which I think is super, super classy. You know, there
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  Speaker 1: have actually been a lot of deaths in Hollywood over
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. Not all of them get
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  Speaker 1: as much news as Dolly Parton or Tim Curry, but
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  Speaker 1: they're all just as sad. And we generally try not
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  Speaker 1: to dwell too much on that because it's a fact
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  Speaker 1: of life is the older you get. The more people
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  Speaker 1: die around you that have influenced your life, right? And
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  Speaker 1: we don't want any one person to seem any more
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  Speaker 1: important than another person. And Dolly Parton and Tim Curry,
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  Speaker 1: both 80, it's too young to me, but it is
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  Speaker 1: a respectable age to live to. And they've done a
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  Speaker 1: lot of really wonderful things that have touched a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people. I was not a huge, huge Dolly Parton
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  Speaker 1: fan growing up. As an adult, I've gained a lot
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  Speaker 1: more admiration for like her music and stuff like that. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but her philanthropy really, um, she, I put her up
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  Speaker 1: there with Mr. Rogers as far as like the good
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  Speaker 1: things she's done and the way she treated people. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and that's really admirable. And I hope that new people
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  Speaker 1: step up to fill in those shoes.
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  Speaker 2: I love that she had such an incredibly wicked sense
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  Speaker 2: of humor, but an enormous heart. So she can make like,
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  Speaker 2: You would hear her tell jokes that you're like, I
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  Speaker 2: did not know Dolly Parton had that side to her. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know that she had this kind of wicked
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes even raunchy sense of humor, sometimes just twisted.
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  Speaker 2: And yet, you know, then she'd do that high, scratchy
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  Speaker 2: giggle of hers. And you're like, oh, my gosh, Dolly
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  Speaker 2: Parton's living in a world where everything is just a
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  Speaker 2: punchline away from a laugh for her, which is great.
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  Speaker 2: But she's also so dedicated to sharing her success with
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  Speaker 2: her community. I mean, she did so much for the
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  Speaker 2: people of East Tennessee over the years. Everything from scholarships
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  Speaker 2: to disaster relief. She made a million dollar donation to
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  Speaker 2: help fund the research for the Moderna COVID vaccine. And
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  Speaker 2: then after the vaccine came out, she did another million
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  Speaker 2: dollars in order to help fund research into conditions that,
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  Speaker 2: that young kids were, were facing. And then there's her
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  Speaker 2: whole library program. I mean, it's just, it's phenomenal. I
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  Speaker 2: think a lot of people have said she could have
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  Speaker 2: been a billionaire, but she kept giving her money away.
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  Speaker 1: Now she was still living very comfortably. Oh, sure. She
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  Speaker 1: was Dollywood, but yes.
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  Speaker 2: Extremely wealthy, but, she could have been one of those
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  Speaker 2: people who, instead of finding ways to help others, could
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  Speaker 2: have just dedicated her life into increasing her own wealth.
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  Speaker 2: We see that time and again, right? People who are
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  Speaker 2: literal billionaires many times over, and yet they seem absolutely
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  Speaker 2: obsessed with just accumulating more. And you're like, why? You
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  Speaker 2: literally have more money than you could ever spend in
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  Speaker 2: 10 lifetimes. why keep going for more? And she just
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  Speaker 2: didn't have that. She was much more about supporting others
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  Speaker 2: and helping others. And yes, she was still incredibly wealthy, but,
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  Speaker 2: but not just accumulating wealth.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I don't, I try not to talk about
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  Speaker 1: my faith too much, but you know, Dolly Parton was
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  Speaker 1: a Christian and she lived her life the way that
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  Speaker 1: I think that people of my faith should and, So
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  Speaker 1: I also very much appreciate that. You know, she stood
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  Speaker 1: up for marginalized groups of people and she did help
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  Speaker 1: others with her wealth. And so like, yeah, it's just,
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  Speaker 1: it's admirable all around and whether or not you share
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  Speaker 1: that faith, it's just someone who, someone who is so
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  Speaker 1: loving and caring is just, just personally for me that
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  Speaker 1: I find that so uplifting.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like I've made no secret that, that I'm a skeptic
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  Speaker 2: and an atheist. However, I respect that. the heck out
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  Speaker 2: of Dolly Parton for walking the walk and not just
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  Speaker 2: talking the talk. Right. Cause that's what we see so
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  Speaker 2: often as people who are, they weaponize their faith as
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  Speaker 2: opposed to living what they're the, the concepts and the
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  Speaker 2: teachings of that faith. And Dolly was like the opposite.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sorry, sorry to bring it there for a second.
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  Speaker 1: I know that's not what this podcast is about.
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  Speaker 2: I think, I think that was 100% valid. That was
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  Speaker 2: a 100% valid thing to say. And I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: also you can say they were both 80, both Dolly
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  Speaker 2: and Tim, and they were both, they both had health issues.
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  Speaker 2: Dolly Parton's had health issues for a while. Plus she
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  Speaker 2: lost her husband of like 50 years last year. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there was a lot going on there. Tim Curry,
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  Speaker 2: of course, had a massive stroke in 2012. Yeah. But
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  Speaker 2: continued to work. I think he was still doing voiceovers as,
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  Speaker 2: as late as 2024.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I think you.
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  Speaker 1: Just released like an audio memoir or something. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So the other thing I want to say about both
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  Speaker 2: of them, first of all, they both had such a
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  Speaker 2: wicked sense of humor. I like to think that if
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  Speaker 2: I am completely wrong about everything and I hope I am,
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  Speaker 2: that the two of them are just telling jokes to
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  Speaker 2: each other and making each other laugh. For sure. But
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  Speaker 2: they were both. So Tim Curry was just named an
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  Speaker 2: honorary Muppet. By the Muppets, which they've only done like
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  Speaker 2: five times. And one of the other people is Dolly Parton,
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  Speaker 2: who had already been named an honorary Muppet. Robin Williams
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  Speaker 2: and Pee Wee Herman are two others. So very few
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  Speaker 2: people have been honorary Muppets.
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  Speaker 1: Who's the fifth one?
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  Speaker 2: I'd have to look in the article again. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it's very few people who have ever been
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  Speaker 2: named that. The fact that Dolly Parton had already been
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  Speaker 2: named one and now Tim Curry's been named one. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: that's fitting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it is. Big personalities, big hearts. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Tim Curry is amazing for kicking it so awesomely for
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  Speaker 1: so long after his stroke.
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  Speaker 2: So that's, you know, well, if you had to tell
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  Speaker 2: you what, if you had to recommend to someone something
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  Speaker 2: from the Tim Curry body of work, what would you
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  Speaker 2: recommend they check out?
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  Speaker 1: Muppet Treasure Island, of course.
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  Speaker 2: Um, that's, that's a good one. I probably would, I'd
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  Speaker 2: probably recommend clue.
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  Speaker 1: That's, that's my other favorite one. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I, I also, I genuinely love Rocky horror
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  Speaker 2: picture show. I love it. Uh, that one, while I
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  Speaker 2: think I still think that that's a really important piece of,
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  Speaker 2: of pop cinema, uh, clue holds my heart. His, he
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  Speaker 2: holds that everyone in that movie is doing a phenomenal job,
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  Speaker 2: but he's like the center of it. Um, So and
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  Speaker 2: similarly with Dolly Parton, I would say probably nine to five.
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  Speaker 2: I would I would recommend like that. There's rhinestone with
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  Speaker 2: Sylvester Stallone. I saw that in the theater when it
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  Speaker 2: came out, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that I recommend it. Uh, but I,
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  Speaker 2: I nine to five is such a classic comedy.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, right. Rhinestone. I saw it a bad movie night and, uh,
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  Speaker 1: it was, you know, you can act your heart out
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  Speaker 1: in something and still not have a great script. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: nine to five is wonderful. Steel Magnolias is, you know, heartbreaking,
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  Speaker 1: but beautiful. I like Tim Curry's performance in Rocky Horror
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  Speaker 1: Picture Show, and I understand the importance of it. But
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  Speaker 1: that movie is I feel like it has a couple
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  Speaker 1: of false endings and it's a little too long for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it falls into the trap
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  Speaker 2: of being a little too faithful to the structure of
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  Speaker 2: sci fi B movies where. you've got long stretches where
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  Speaker 2: you're like, man, it's been a while since a song
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  Speaker 2: has been on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Cause like if you watch a real like sci-fi B movie, you,
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  Speaker 2: you realize like they had a very low budget and
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  Speaker 2: they spent it on a couple of different action sequences
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  Speaker 2: or something. And then there's just really long talky bits
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  Speaker 2: where nothing interesting happens.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. But, um, you know, still a lot of fun. Um,
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  Speaker 1: they've both done so much. I know one of our
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  Speaker 1: mutual friends was in that gospel movie, gospel choir movie
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  Speaker 1: with Dolly. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I remember, gosh, I wish joyful noise or something. Joyful noise.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah. And of course, Tim Curry did tons
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  Speaker 2: of voice acting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he was in Phineas and Ferb. He did the,
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  Speaker 2: the Peter Pan and the pirates, I think is what,
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  Speaker 2: was one of the series. He played captain hook in
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  Speaker 2: some of those.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe he was in legend, although, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: couldn't necessarily tell it was him.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Fern Gully. He was the voice of the toxic sludge.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, my, what I'm still one of my favorite songs
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  Speaker 1: from a cartoon. Uh, even though the movie itself, like
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  Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily hold up. I enjoyed it a lot more
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  Speaker 1: as a little kid than I do rewatching it. There
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  Speaker 1: are other movies that I enjoy just as much now
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  Speaker 1: that are cartoons, but that one, that song just still
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  Speaker 1: sticks with me. Um, I'm surprised you didn't say one
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  Speaker 1: of his favorite roles of yours was Pennywise. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that's that's mostly because outside of Tim Curry,
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  Speaker 2: that miniseries is is rough, especially the adult stuff like
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  Speaker 2: the stuff with the kids works way better than the
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  Speaker 2: stuff with the adults. Like once you get Harry Anderson
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  Speaker 2: in there and John Ritter and like these are people
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  Speaker 2: that I like and other things. But man, I thought
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  Speaker 2: they stunk. In the miniseries. But Tim Curry was like
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  Speaker 2: a dream. The thing I wish I could have seen,
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  Speaker 2: I was just too young. I would have been antsy
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  Speaker 2: and I wouldn't have sat through it. But I wish
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  Speaker 2: I could have seen him perform as Amadeus Mozart in Amadeus.
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  Speaker 2: And his Salieri, the man who acted opposite him as
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  Speaker 2: his rival, was Ian McKellen. So can you imagine seeing
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  Speaker 2: Tim Curry and Ian McKellen performing Amadeus on stage?
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it on stage, but okay. No. So
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't the, it, he wasn't in the movie version. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: It was a, it was a live stage performance. It
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  Speaker 2: was on Broadway.
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  Speaker 1: That would have been wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, I can't imagine. I wish it's rare that
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  Speaker 2: I wish I were older than I am, but I
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  Speaker 2: kind of wish I was, I, I had been old
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  Speaker 2: enough to appreciate the, And to go and see that,
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  Speaker 2: I hadn't been to New York. I wouldn't get to
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  Speaker 2: New York for years after that show closed. But I
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  Speaker 2: wish I could have seen that. I also wish I
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  Speaker 2: could have seen him. I've seen clips, but I wish
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  Speaker 2: I could have seen him perform Pirates of Penzance live.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes. That would have been amazing. There's so many
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  Speaker 1: actors that I wish I could have seen perform live,
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  Speaker 1: both present day and past. I'm going to also, just because,
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  Speaker 1: just because... We also mentioned Peter Cullen. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: worth saying the things that I loved him from. One
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  Speaker 1: of my favorites is Chip and Dale.
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  Speaker 2: Who did he voice in Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers?
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't he Dale?
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  Speaker 2: Am I wrong? I'm having to ask you because I
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  Speaker 2: never watched Chip and Dale. This is where our age
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  Speaker 2: gap comes in. I didn't watch Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers.
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  Speaker 1: I think he was Dale. He was also several voices
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  Speaker 1: in Rainbow Bright, which I loved as a child. Do
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  Speaker 1: I remember Rainbow Bright? No. No. I mean, I do
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  Speaker 1: like so Rainbow Bright, Thundercats. Those are two things that
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  Speaker 1: I remember absolutely loving that if you ask me specific details,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. But I mean, I'm the same way with Transformers.
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you like the basics of Transformers. I
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  Speaker 2: watched that religiously as a kid. But could I tell
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  Speaker 2: you any of the storylines apart from Decepticons are bad
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  Speaker 2: and want to do bad things and the Autobots are
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  Speaker 2: good and want to stop the Decepticons? That's as detailed
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  Speaker 2: as I can get.
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  Speaker 1: I'm having to brush up on Thundercats because I'm actually
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  Speaker 1: about to start an actual play for that. So that's exciting.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. That's cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I'll definitely talk more about it when I
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  Speaker 1: have more details. It's still in the baby infancy stage.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm like, time to watch all the Thundercats. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm working through the original series now. I didn't mean
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  Speaker 1: to transition to what we watched. So we don't even
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  Speaker 1: have to. We can go back.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll... No, I think, I think we've, we've said
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  Speaker 2: our piece. And like I said, they're like anyone who's
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  Speaker 2: been on YouTube or probably any of the other, I'm
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  Speaker 2: only on YouTube, so I don't know about the other
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  Speaker 2: social media, but, uh, anyone who's been on YouTube or
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  Speaker 2: Reddit or whatever, you've seen countless videos or articles or
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  Speaker 2: pieces about Dolly Parton and about Tim Curry and about
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  Speaker 2: the impact that they've had. And, um, you know, again,
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  Speaker 2: there's not much that we can add beyond our own personal,
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  Speaker 2: you know, reflections on these people. So I think it's
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  Speaker 2: perfectly fine for us to transition into what we watched.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So obviously Thundercats, I'm working through the original
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  Speaker 1: series now, which is hard because that's all on Hulu FX.
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  Speaker 1: Some of it's on YouTube. So I'm going through the
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  Speaker 1: YouTube stuff and then I'm going to watch the later
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  Speaker 1: because there were like, there's like a 2011 series that
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  Speaker 1: I never did watch. Um, and then I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I want to watch the newest one that came
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  Speaker 1: out a couple of years ago. Cause I hate the
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  Speaker 1: art style so much. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I remember hearing about it coming out and I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I ever saw anything from it. So I don't even,
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  Speaker 2: I can't even visualize what the art style looks like.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have to look after the show. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was, it was Thundercats Go and it
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: was like really, um, just Steven University.
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  Speaker 2: That also does it. It's kind of lost on me
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  Speaker 2: because I don't know what Steven universe.
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  Speaker 1: Anyhow, um, this is no, this is no diss on
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  Speaker 1: Steven universe. I know there's a huge fan base and
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  Speaker 1: it had that cartoon, even though I didn't watch a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot of it had a whole lot of heart
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  Speaker 1: and is so important to so many people. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not dissing it at all. Um, I just don't like
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  Speaker 1: a Thundercats ghost art style. Um, I also watched Ted Lasso,
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  Speaker 1: the latest episode. I'm still really enjoying it. It's, it
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  Speaker 1: makes me feel good when I'm sad, which obviously I've
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: needed this week. Um, On a whim, Vic Michaelis and
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  Speaker 1: Ify Nwadiwe, who I know both of them mainly from Dropout,
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  Speaker 1: though they both do other amazing things, were both on
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Flula Borg's Neon Dimension YouTube show. And I watched that
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: last night and that was so bizarre and hilarious. Are
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: you familiar with Flula Borg?
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  Speaker 2: I am not. I have no idea what this is.
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  Speaker 1: He is a German comedian. He's done stuff on Smosh.
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  Speaker 1: He's done stuff on Dropout. He's done like... he was
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Javelin in the suicide squad, um, with the blonde hair. He's,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: he's a very, very funny guy and his humor is
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  Speaker 1: so weird. And I just, his comedic timing for this
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: weirdness is so amazing that I love like watching him
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: in almost anything. Honestly, he always wears like a fanny pack, uh,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: for his public persona. It's he, Oh, he was also
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: in pitch perfect. Uh, if you watched pitch perfect, at
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: least two, I think he was in two. I don't,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not a huge Pitch Perfect fan,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: but he was definitely in one of them. So I
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: watched that. That was fun because it was Vic and
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Ify playing different video games and competing against each other
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: with a lot of like humor built in. You'd probably
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: really enjoy the episode. And then I watched Lanterns. I'm
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: caught up.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched Lanterns. There's only been two episodes so far.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we get the third on Sunday.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Sunday. Yeah. All right. So I also, Lanterns is really
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: the only thing I watched. I am behind on Stuart
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Fails to Save the Universe, which is weird because episode
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: four was actually the one that I really liked. So
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I need to go back and catch up because I
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: might actually really enjoy the series. The first three I
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: did not care for, but the fourth one I liked.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: But I know there's at least one, maybe two more
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: that have come out since then. Maybe more than that.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But I'm way behind. lanterns we becca
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: and i watched that the uh like we watched the
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: first episode and then we were ready to watch episode
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: two once it went live at like 901 on hbo
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: max and uh we enjoyed i think i enjoy it
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: more than becca does uh becca doesn't dislike it but
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: i don't think she's having as good a time i
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: like the second episode more than the first and becca.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Feels exactly the opposite gotcha Really?
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I so like i i maybe i don't know they
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: they felt very different to me they weren't like they
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: were the same but i felt like the second episode
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: was more serious and the first episode had more like
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: little chuckles it's not big humorous but i had little
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: chuckles I.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Think I liked learning more and you learn more in
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: the second episode than you do. I mean, obviously like
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: you're going to learn more as the show goes on,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: but there were things that in that first episode where
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, wait, no, there's still things that
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: don't make sense to me, but, but I know that
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: that's going to be part of the story, you know?
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: And for those who are not familiar with lanterns, it
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: is the story of Hal Jordan, who is the current
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: green lantern on earth and, As of the opening of
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: the show, it's actually, well, it's a little more complicated
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: than that. But then Jon Stewart has been assigned essentially
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: his backup. Because Hal Jordan wasn't really necessarily meant to
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: be a Green Lantern. If you are familiar with the
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: comic book story, this is very similar to that, where
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: a member of the Green Lantern Corps crash lands on Earth,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: is critically wounded. And how Jordan ends up taking up
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: the mantle of the green lantern, because he is one
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: of two people who is deemed to be worthy to
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: do so. The other person in the comics, at least
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: is Guy Gardner. And as anyone who's familiar with the
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: comics knows, or even familiar with the DC cinematic universe,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Guy Gardner does eventually become a green lantern. So the
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: John Stewart's assigned is kind of like a, a, vice
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Green Lantern and is ready to step in to be
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: the Green Lantern should Hal either retire or be incapacitated.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: But Hal is being a real jerk to John. And
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the story kind of plays out in three separate timelines
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: in that first episode. You have 2006 where John Stewart's
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: a young boy who has aspirations of becoming the next
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Green Lantern. 2016 where he's essentially apprenticed To Hal Jordan.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: And then we get a short glimpse into 2026 where
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil anything, but we do find
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: out one of those characters' fates. But the second episode
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: strictly takes place in 2016. You don't have either of
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: the other two time periods play out.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. So I have a lot of theories
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that I don't want to go into because I don't
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: want to spoil. You know, the show is new enough
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that some people may have just not had a chance
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: to watch it right yet. So I definitely have theories
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: from the first episode, things that haven't been answered yet.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: But I got my theories that we'll have to talk
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: about offline or maybe at some point we'll be like, OK,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: it's been long enough. So if you still haven't seen
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: it and you're going to click off for like skip
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: ahead three minutes or whatever. You thought. how Jordan was
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: completely unlikable in the first episode.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I did. Apart from one moment where you get to
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: see his 2006 self where he was likable.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you feel that way in the second episode?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: He was less unlikable.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: See, for me, it's the exact opposite. For me, in
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the first one, there was a little bit of like...
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Back and forth, that made me feel like John and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: he had been at it a while, and maybe we're
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: building a little bit of begrudging camaraderie. He was definitely,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: pardon my language, an asshole, but he was at least
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: an entertaining one. The second one, I thought he was
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: just a lot meaner.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: See, in the second one, the part where he interrupts
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the town meeting, I'm just like, okay, so he just gets...
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: he just gets a small bit of joy out of
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: trolling other people. Like that's it. He just enjoys trolling
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: people and pushing buttons. And, uh, and that's where I
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: started to like him more because in the, and also
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I'm starting to understand him more. Like I, I, I'm
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: getting the sense that how Jordan is a character who
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: simultaneously senses that his time as green lantern is coming
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: to a close and that this is an, uh, necessary
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: thing for him to be able to pass it on
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and also that he is very reluctant to do that
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: because that's his that's the only identity he has at
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: this point.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah and like i feel like some of
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: it comes from a jadedness there are various things at
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: least in the first episode that show that like it
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: just didn't go the way i think he necessarily expected
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: um at least socially on earth um uh which again
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: i don't want to go too much into I do
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: think that this show has far too little Jason Ritter
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: in it so far.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And there's, there's one big question that I
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: am very, like, I have so many thoughts of what
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the possible answer could be, but I love the idea
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: that I don't necessarily know what the actual answer is.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Now I want to know, can you say it without
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: it being spoiled?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I can, I can say it. So like there is
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: a term that, That comes up in the second episode
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: about a type of entity that is potentially very dangerous.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: And it is revealed that someone in the town is
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: that entity, but we don't know who it is. And
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: that's the part where it's like, wow, there are at
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: least four people. decent suspects for that entity right now.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: And I love that. I can't be sure which of
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the four it is.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. The, the trailers are really good at showing
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: us things to make us excited without like giving plot away. Um,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: And I feel like this show so far is also
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: very good at giving us things to be excited about
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: without resolving them too quickly. It's only two episodes, right?
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: But it's not like, here it is, here's the answer.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Some shows do that and it doesn't let you live
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: in that world long enough. So I'm excited for the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: mystery to unravel. I was a little disappointed because I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: realized the entity that you're talking about was not the
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: entity I thought it was. Same. Yeah.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Although maybe it'll turn out to be, I seriously doubt it.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's, I get the sense that the, we're
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: talking around it too much. I'm not going to go
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: any further. Uh, we'll, we'll chat. You and I will
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: chat at, at a point where we could have a
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: more open conversation in DC.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: There are two, uh, distinct factions that do similar things
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: that share the same name, but are not related.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: So, yeah. So it's entirely possible that that's what we're
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: looking at. Uh, I am enjoying it. I look forward
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: to the next episode this weekend. So I'll definitely be
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: watching that. It does mean that I have a standing
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: invitation to join a friend's, uh, seven days to die server,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: but they play on Sunday nights and I'm like, sorry guys,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: gonna have to wait until this is over, which means
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: you'll be at a game stage far too late for
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: me to join. Cause I'll be like a baby and
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: you'll be like Superman. So, you know, I wouldn't be
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: able to stand toe to toe with anything cause I
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: just get wiped out. So, um, Yeah, that's the only
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: thing I've watched, though. So if you would like, we
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: can segue on over to 30 seconds or less. And
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: we actually have a pretty light load. That doesn't necessarily
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: mean this is going to be a short episode, but
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty, pretty long. We had a lot to say
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: about both lanterns and the people we lost. But and
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: we don't have that much in our other segments. So
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: let us see if we can get through 30 seconds
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: or less in less than, I don't know, six minutes.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: It should be two.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: It should be two. We've got four items.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: However, the first one is going to be longer than
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: 30 seconds already. I can tell you because just getting
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: through the titles is going to take forever. So let
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: me get started here. Well, Marvel has announced a watch
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: list of things that you should watch before seeing Avengers Doomsday.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: And it is a doozy of a list. So here goes. X-Men, X2,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Captain America The First Avenger, The Avengers, Avengers Infinity War,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Avengers Endgame, Loki, Shang-Chi, Spider-Man No Way Home, Black Panther
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Wakanda Forever, Captain America Brave New World, Deadpool and Wolverine,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, Thunderbolts, and finally,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: the Fantastic Four First Steps. Now, to watch all of
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: that list, you would need about 42 and a half hours.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: The shortest of all of those is Captain America Brave
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: New World, and the longest is Loki, because that's a
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: TV series. After that, I think it's Endgame. Perhaps more
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: notable are some of the missing titles, like there's no
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: The Eternals, there's no Captain Marvel or The Marvels, there's
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: none of the Ant-Man movies, Iron Man movies, or Thor
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: films outside of the Avengers films. That is interesting.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: It is. I wonder if it just means that they're
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: not trying to put too much into one thing, but
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I doubt it. Okay. I had to work through that
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: thought as I was saying it. Last week we talked
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: about things that DC was dropping from its slate, at
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: least temporarily. And this week we're going to talk about
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: something that is moving forward, which is the People vs.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Gorilla Grodd. It is going to be a mockumentary centered
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: on Jimmy Olsen of the Daily Planet. Jimmy Olsen is...
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Usually the kid sidekick who works with Superman. He's not
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: really a kid. He's a young adult. But he's being
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: played once again by Skylar Guisando, who played him in
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the Superman movie.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Brilliant.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: He's a wonderful actor. and i loved his take on
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: jimmy olsen uh jimmy tatro is playing gorilla grodd um
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: he seems like a really cool guy the only thing
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: i've actually watched him in though is home economics and
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: that's a sitcom so I don't really have a good
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: take on, I'm sure he will make a wonderful Gorilla
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Grodd if he's been cast as that role. I just,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I'm now picturing his home economics character in that role.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Fair enough. Bruce Campbell has emphasized that his time as
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the character of Ash from the Evil Dead franchise has
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: come to an end. We last saw Bruce Campbell as
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Ash back in the Ash versus Evil Dead series on Starz,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: which ran from 2015 to 2018. Campbell posted on X
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: that quote, Better not be anytime soon. Okay. Ryan Gosling
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: and his.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Producing partner Jesse Henderson are trying to develop a live
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: action Flintstones project focusing on grown up Bam Bam, which
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: honestly kind of feels like just a spin on what
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: if Ken from a Barbie movie got his own movie,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: even though Bam Bam, I'm sure, is much more likeable
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: than Ken. That's all I got to say on that.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I don't expect you to have more to say. I
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: have no more to say about that. So that's our
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: 30 seconds or less. That was it. Uh, yeah, it's
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: pretty short. And we also only have three things to
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: talk about in our segment. We're calling, Hey, that just
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: kind of slipped in at the last second. Didn't it? Uh,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: the first of, of which is Allie G. Um, uh,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: he's back.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Why? Why? Because, because people, I guess, like that, that,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: that humor, like, so Sasha Baron Cohen's, uh, humor is
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: not really for me but i i can appreciate what
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: it is like he is fearless in charging into uh
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: weird and and fraught situations playing characters who tend to
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: escalate things considerably as the as things play out uh
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: and it's very dependent upon the people he interacts with
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: not really being in on the joke uh which starts
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: to make you wonder like how culturally illiterate are these
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: people where they haven't, they haven't caught on to characters
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: like Borat or Ali G Ali G in this case
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: is like a, a guy who, who, who fancies himself
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: like a reggae rapper type.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, so correct me if I'm wrong. Cause I
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: haven't watched, here's the thing. I like Sasha Baron Cohen's
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: acting when he is not doing these characters. I think
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: he was wonderful in Les Mis. I haven't seen him
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: as Mephisto. whatever in marvel yet but i want to
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: i think he can be a very good actor and
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: an amazing dramatic actor he's got a great voice uh
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: i'm not a fan of borat and i never watched
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: ali g but weren't the first borat and the first
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: ali g kind of scripted and then the second borat
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: was not and then this ali g is also claiming
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: not to be scripted either or at least you mostly
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: not scripted real people.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Uh my understanding was that it was always more of
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: an improvised almost like not quite hidden camera, but more like, uh,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: let's go into talk to real people, but not let
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: them in on the fact that this is a put
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: upon character. Uh, that was my understanding, but then I,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: like I said, this is not my thing. So I've never,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: which is why it's in our section that doesn't really fit.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Cause I just would never watch this. Um, like I
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: think Borat typically is more about this outlandish character kind of,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: revealing the the prejudices and biases and hypocrisy of various
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: people by just you know really blowing up that kind
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: of stuff Ali G looks like it's more just truly
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: outlandish behavior and situations in this case involving Ali G
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: and his girlfriend who is pregnant and the the weird
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: weird things they do to get a rise out of
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: people uh again not really for me like i i
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: recognize the the place for this kind of humor it
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: feels a little a little weird because it does feel
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: very 2000s like early 2000s kind of stuff but it
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: to see it in 2026 is.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Weird yeah i um and you're right i did just
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: look at it and it was originally like improvised as
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: well um Maybe the problem is that when I first
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: saw this, I mistook him for Adam Sandler as Zohan
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: or something like that. Was that?
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, oh, this is the thing that
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Adam Sandler does, isn't it? Is that? No, it's Sacha
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Baron Cohen, so that might be part of it. Yeah.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: So if, if you're into this humor, if you're into
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: that character, uh, this comes out October 23rd on Amazon
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: MGM studios. I think it's getting a release in theaters. Uh,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I'll be skipping it. It's not for me.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I'll also be skipping the next one, but I do
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: recognize the, the place it holds and sort of rom-coms.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: It is a film called the love hypothesis. It is
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: based off a novel by Allie Hazelwood, uh, The premise
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: is that a professor and his Ph.D. student decide to
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: pose as a romantic couple in order to be able
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: to test various theories about love. But do they fall
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: for each other in the process? Yes, of course they do.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Comes out September 23rd. What do you think of the trailer?
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, you got to let me talk. No,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I was just like, please don't go on.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I have things to say. I'm not normally like a romantic.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I can enjoy romantic comedy lifetime stuff type stuff,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: which is what this feels like. So it's fine. I
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: guess the thing I'd say that I like about this,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: at least from the trailer is the fact that it
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: seems like the teacher who is a complete jerk at
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the beginning kind of has a change of heart and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: tries to become a better person. And the girl is
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: not immediately like, Oh yes, let's be together now. You know, it's, it's,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: which I feel like a lot of romance romances have
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: done in the past of like, ignore all this stuff,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: ignore all the red flags and just be like, yep,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: we're good now. Yeah. One.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: And they have a lot of the tropes of things
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: like he takes his shirt off and he's absolutely ripped.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And she has like that moment of a, Oh, you know,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: very shallow kind of thing. Like these are tropes that
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: we've seen a billion times.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: But it's a trope, but it's also something people do
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: like there's a place.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know I was I used to be
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: in really good shape and I used to have to
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: take my shirt off backstage at the Renaissance Festival. And
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times Randy went by going, woohoo.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Sweet. Here to cross the site.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: He did it a few times.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I'm actually sorry that that happened to you.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: No, it was very ego boosting. I thought it was great.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Like if, if Randy, if Randy thinks I look good,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I look good.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: None of the, none of the, none of my, my
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: female cast mates ever said anything. Maybe they were just
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: gazing with, with approval from afar.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: My guess is if you were backstage they were just
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: trying to change themselves because there's no changing room behind
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: the renaissance festival so you just gotta like shimmy out
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: of your car either change in a porta potty which
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day you do not want
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: to do or uh like try to like shimmy out
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: of your chemise and put your other clothes underneath all
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: while staying somewhat i mean not everybody cared but some
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: people cared so a lot of them were probably just
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: trying to maintain some amount of modesty.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I also like, I would get to a point,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I don't, this is such a tangent. I would get
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: to a point at the end of the day, like
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't always necessarily be the hottest days, but there
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: would come a point where by the time I would
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: get backstage, I would be fine. I'd be fine. And
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I would get backstage and I would start to take
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: off the top layer. And then my brain is just
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: like screaming, get it off, get it off, get it off,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: get it off. Cause it just be like soaked in
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: sweat and like, it would just be this, the sensory
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: issue I would have where I'm like, I have got
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: to get a dry shirt on. I am going, I
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: am losing my mind. I am losing my mind. And
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: that happened a couple of times. It usually happened like
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: if I was also a little dehydrated, but, uh, uh,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: so at that point I'm like, I don't know if
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I'm looking sexy or anything. I just, I'll probably look
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: like I'm having a total freak out cause I'm just
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: desperately trying to get this shirt off. And I forgot
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: to untie my sleeves first.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Looking sexy at the end of a RenFest day was never,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: ever on my bingo card. But my modesty did change
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: based on based on how hot it was, how long
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the day was, and I guess who I was parked near.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Like and it wasn't usually it wasn't because I was
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: worried that I was parked next to somebody who was
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: going to be inappropriate. It was mainly because I was
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: parked next to somebody who I wouldn't know if I
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: made them uncomfortable. Like if I walked around in my
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: bra or something, but it's a million thousand degrees on
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: the surface of the sun and I want to cool
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: off before I put on, my shirt that's supposed to
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: be clean and dry for the rest of the evening.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah i will say like the times when ariel was
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: my ride like the level of comfort we had with
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: one another was really kind of i mean it was
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: a good thing both at the beginning of the day
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: and the end of the day because i didn't start
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: off or end off feeling stressed out yeah yeah i
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: was like Like, well, I'll just turn around now and I'll, I'll,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I'll stand here while you do what your thing, and
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: then I'll turn back around and everything's fine. That was great.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: But this, this love hypothesis to get back to the
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: actual thing we were talking about. I got, I agree
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: with you. Like the doctor character, the professor character just
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: comes across so unlikable early in the trailer that I
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: was getting like 50 shades of gray. Yeah.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. definitely my guess is that's a little bit purposeful,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: but you know, but then it, I, again, from the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: trailer appearance, it turns it on its ear a little
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: bit by her being like, no. Yeah.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I think, I think these kinds of movies are so
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: heavily dependent upon the chemistry between the leads that if
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: that chemistry is not like solid, then there's no way
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: you're going to get me to watch this. They look
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: like they were, had decent chemistry, but nothing that made
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: me think, Oh, I need to.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Need to see this, which honestly surprises me how the
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: first and maybe second, I don't know. I actually don't
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: know how the second 50 shades of gray movies did
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: well because those lead actors did not like each other. Apparently.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that was more of people who had
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: read the books who wanted to see sexy times play
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: out on screen.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Fair enough.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: And now I say, I say sexy times based on
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: their definition, not mine. Because to me, consent is the
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: biggest sexy part.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: It really, really is. But let's move now from young, awkward,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: sexy times to more appropriate, awkward, sexy times.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Middle-aged, awkward, sexy times.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: With the trailer for the HBO, I guess, show, Youth?
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a series that's focused on a woman
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: who's in her 50s. She's had a divorce from her husband.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: She is attempting to figure out how to dip her
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: toe back into the world of dating and sex. She
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: also is caring for her elderly parents and her perpetually
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: immature young adult son. And so all of that is
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: playing out in this trailer. It's, it's pretty interesting. uh
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: as the english would say rude at points or raunchy
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: if you prefer but i did think it had like
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: i was like i'm kind of here for this story
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: like i don't know that i'll be watching it but
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: i i'm glad it exists.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah it it gave me very did you ever watch fleabag.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I haven't it's on my list of things i need
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: to watch.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: It's definitely one of those, like knowing you, you'll need
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: to be prepared because there's a lot of like awkward
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: uncomfortability in the, in the main character.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. That's like, like the, the crux of the humor.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, it was enjoyable and it was fun.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: It was also very raunchy at points, but I liked
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: the overall journey it took. This feels the same way.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: It feels like it is really going to focus on that,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: like self-discovery and like, Just very relatable humor in that,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, there's going to be raunchy, sexy,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: but it also feels like it's going to be super relatable,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: which I like. I have not seen a lot of
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: things that Sharon Horgan is in outside of her voice work,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: but I did love her in Game Night. That movie
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: was a lot of fun.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah. And I believe she like wrote the series
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: and isn't just appearing in it. It debuts on September
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: 20th on HBO max. Check out this trailer. If you
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: are at all curious, it is raunchy. It's not like,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: this is not a family friendly comedy. You know, think,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: think like what if someone were to make an American
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: pie movie, maybe not quite as, as extreme, but an
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: American pie movie, but for people who are middle-aged.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. Hopefully not as extreme because I want to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: check this one out and that might make me a
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: little uncomfortable.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know what else makes you uncomfortable?
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Ariel? sand in my shoes.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: And there's this little hutch that you don't like so much.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, why are you bringing that up?
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Because it's time to go to John Boy's Horror Hutch. Now,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: you and I are going to just get on this sleigh.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: It is being pulled by a team of eight spiders.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: And a scorpion in the front.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Are you sure it's not just... horses on piggyback. Uh, if,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: if they are one horse on piggybacking on another horse,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: cause that would also be eight legs.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I think it's a half horse, half spider concoction. Uh,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: what's with all the screaming.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: To go there.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I did listen to skull crusher mountain just the
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: other day, but it's shout out to Jonathan Colton, but yes,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: we're heading on over to the, the horror hutch. And, uh,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: first off, did you watch any of the trailers?
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Uh, I did not. And the reason why is because one,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: this week is this is this week, as usual lately,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: has been a little bit busy. But two, I couldn't
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: tell if I would be OK with any of them
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: or not based on the title.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you would have been OK with Pendulum. That would
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: have been that probably would have been the only one.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: All right. So first up, we got a trailer and
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: you would have been okay with the creep tapes, but
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: you would lack any context. So that would, you would
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: just later on, we're going to have a discussion about
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: the stranger things tales from 85 season two, where it's
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: going to be the same thing for me, where I'm like,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: looks like stranger things. That's about all I can say. Uh,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: spoiler for later in the episode, but the creep tapes
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: season three. So this is set in the creep franchise,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: which is, uh, I've seen the first two films in
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: this franchise and it's kind of a satirical take on
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: stalker slash slasher movies. It's, it's almost mockumentary ish in
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: a way. Okay. I think it's Mike Duplass who plays the,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: the creep, the, the serial killer type character. And I've
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: seen those two films and they're both really interesting. I
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: don't know if I like them, but I definitely found
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: them watchable, like like compelling. I watched them all the
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: way through. No distractions. But I don't know if I
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: could say I like them. What I did not know
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: is that since then, there's been this TV series, The
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Crete Tapes, that have been playing on Shudder and AMC Plus.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: And season three is coming out on September 15th. So
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: I did not know. that these even existed. I would
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: like to watch it, but I do, I would need
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: to go back and watch seasons one and two, maybe
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: even rewatch the movies in order to refresh my memory
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: on everything. Uh, the trailer's good. It's creepy as you
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: would expect. Uh, and also like, it's got that kind
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: of edgy meta narrative thing going on. Um, so yeah, I,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: if you're into that kind of thing where you're like,
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: it's sort of a deconstruction, sort of a satire, uh,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: kind of one of those things where it's asking you
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: why you like watching this stuff in the first place
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: like all of that is kind of wrapped up into
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: it and it's worth checking out if you are a
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: horror fan who wants something different.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: I do appreciate mike duplass's ability to pivot between horror
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: and comedy.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah now he and his brother have made a lot
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: of interesting movies and some real clunkers too or at
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: least in my opinion real clunkers other people might love them,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: but there's some two plus movies where I'm just like, Oh,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: you guys are so up your own butts. Um, but, uh,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: next up we have a trailer for a movie called breeder.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: This one, uh, this one is got a lot of
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: ick to it in the sense that, uh, the basic premise,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: which is that you have this woman, uh, played by
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: dot Murray Jones, a former athlete and character actor. You
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: might know her from glee. She was the gym teacher. Uh,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: She plays this woman who is a poodle breeder who
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: invites a student to work with her. She's supposed to
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: fund his research, but he is unknowingly trapped by her
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: to enter into a breeding program that's about humans, not dogs,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: where she wants to breed better humans. A lot of
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: eugenics kind of stuff going on here. And very creepy.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Comes out October 16th. And the fact that it involves
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: both an animal breeder and forced mating. I was like, yeah,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Ariel should not watch this. I'm glad.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't. You must have also been busy
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: because normally you give me like a little do not watch. Yeah.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Well, part of it was that I honestly wasn't sure
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: if we were recording this week or not.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: So I, which is my bad.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I had kind of scrambled a bit. So, The third
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: one is Pendulum. This is starring Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Phoebe Denevore,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Jackie Weaver and Norman Reedus. And it's about a couple
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: that go to like a New Age retreat that ends
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: up being much more like a cult than just. a
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: retreat there's at least in the trailer what looks to
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: be like a moment where they're taking like mind altering
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: substances in order to have kind of like a vision
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: quest but that's where a lot of the horrific imagery
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: seems to come from it's like potential hallucinations and stuff
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: and then there's the question of how much of it
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: is hallucination versus what's really happening definitely has a creepy
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: vibe to it. I am intrigued. I thought there were
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: some shots that were really unsettling in an interesting way.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: This comes out January 1st. So great way to ring
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: in the new year.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I may have to, I do like J glow an
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: awful lot. So I may have to check it out.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: It's a, I mean, it looks creepy, but check out
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: the trailer. See, see what it kind of how it
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: hits you. Like, I think it looks like an interesting,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: potentially interesting horror movie. In ways, it's not the same
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: thing at all, but it kind of reminds me of
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: the feeling I got when I saw the first trailer
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: for Hokum. You know, like, ooh, some of that's really unsettling.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Less in-your-face unsettling than a creepy rabbit-faced person crouching in
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: front of you. So take that for what you will.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: All right, well, as the spiders come to a stop
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: and our sled slows down, it's time for us to
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: get out of the horror hutch And to talk about
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: things that's actually, you know, in our lineup for realsies.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah. And the first one is kind of going
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: back to Jonathan's first 30 seconds or less. A trailer
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: for Avengers Endgame Encore, which Marvel wants you to watch
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: before going into Doomsday to give you another nice little
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: refresher and excitement boost.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Not to mention... a nice box office boost for Marvel
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: slash Disney. Uh, this comes out September 25th and normally
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: this would be all you'd have to say, right? Like
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Avengers end game came out a decade ago. We all
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: know what Avengers end game is, but there, there are,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: there are screenings that will be in IMAX or Disney's
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: own proprietary large screen format called infinity vision that reportedly
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: will have four minutes of of extra footage added in
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: to be more of a bridge between what has happened
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: and doomsday. Plus there's some tweaks to the existing footage.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Like apparently they went in and did some new color
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: grading to add more contrast and colors. And so it's
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: not so muddy for sections of this. And also apparently
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: they tweaked one of Tony Stark's lines so that it
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: has a different emphasis.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that because
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: part of me is like, well, I want to know
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: what's different. But part of me is also like, I've
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: seen Endgame and I liked it and all, but I
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: don't know that I need to sit through another three
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: hours of Endgame just so I can get the four
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: minutes of stuff that's new.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Like, so it is true that that movie
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: was really good at just bringing back like that original
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: like midnight viewing excitement. for an audience all being together.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: On a movie.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: It was really good, which is one of the big
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: things that they're pushing. And I did really enjoy it.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: And I really enjoyed those surprises. Like I enjoyed the
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: end of the end game movie. Well, almost the end
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: of the end game movie where like everybody shows back up.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Looking at the trailer, there's a bunch of stuff in
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: the middle that I didn't care for. And the end
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: was too sad. I do not want to relive that again.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Well, also there's part of me that's bitter with the
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: thought of retconning, right? like tweaking, tweaking Tony Stark's line.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: So it sounds different. I'm like, uh, do we really
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: need to rewrite a line in a movie that's been
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: out for a decade? Um, and just so that it
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: fits better with what you obviously didn't have planned all along.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Like we all know doom is a pivot. Like that's,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: there's no secret to that. It was supposed to be Kang.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: So we all know that this was a pivot in
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: the first place. Uh, so going back and reworking something
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: that has been out for so long, like, and I,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I really, it does rub me the wrong way to
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: think that I need to go back and watch a
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: movie I've seen multiple times again so that I can
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: have this experience. It comes out September 25th. I saw
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: some listings that even had like some late screenings on
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: September 24th. So, If this is something you're interested in,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: you want to relive that experience of seeing Endgame in
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: a theater, then by all means. I haven't decided if
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: I will put myself through this or not. I probably won't.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I'm sure at some point that extra footage is going
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: to resurface somewhere else, but part of me feels bad
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: about seeing it that way, you know?
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: But also part of me is like, do I really
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: want to spend three hours in a theater watching a
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: movie that I know all the beats except for the
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: stuff that's been added.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I can just read about
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: the stuff that's been added afterwards. It was just four minutes.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, supposedly they're also going to
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: show extended footage, like maybe even the opening scene for
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Avengers Doomsday.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Gotcha. I mean, I can read about it and then
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: decide if I want to go see it.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't know how long this one's going
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: to be in theaters. Like, I don't know, like how limited.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: this releases. Uh, but you know.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll include it in the Avengers doomsdays extras. Sure.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Which I will probably feel compelled to collect. Cause I, well,
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: I actually, I, I have the first four phases of
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: all the movies, but I don't think I have all
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: the ones after that. I know I don't have the eternals.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's, um, that would probably gather just a
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: lot of dust. Yeah.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Um, also something that would gather dust for me would
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: be stranger things tales from 85 but already talked about
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: that about how like i've only ever seen the first
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: season of stranger things period so uh and i didn't
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: watch the animated stuff at all but uh yeah it
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: looks strange or stranger.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I mean honestly i feel the same way it feels
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: like more stranger things um i didn't watch season one
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: it's I enjoyed stranger things and I even didn't hate
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: the ending. I enjoyed the full journey. Certain seasons were
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: stronger than others, but I didn't dislike anything. This is just,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: there's not enough in there to make me go, Oh yes,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I have to watch this right now. So I keep
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: forgetting about it.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I, I mean, I think it looks fine.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Obviously they, leverage the animation so that they can do
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: things that would be far too grand a scale to
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: actually do in any sort of believable way with live action.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Like they have creatures that, you know, dwarf a town
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: kind of showing up and stuff like that. So they're,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: they're taking advantage of the format. I just don't, I
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: don't know. This isn't for me. Cause again, like apart
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: from that first season of stranger things, I have not
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: stayed on board. And, The sad thing is the more
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: I heard about Stranger Things, the less interested I got
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: in it. Right. Like, yeah, I didn't feel compelled to
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: catch up. I felt like I think I made the
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: right choice. But that's just for me. Again, this comes
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: out September 17th.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: The next thing we've got is a trailer that we
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: just missed because life has been busy for a movie
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: called Sacrifice.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Starring my fake girlfriend.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: And, uh, I almost said Luke Evans, but it's Chris Evans. Yeah.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: It's not, it's not a recently departed Broadway Frankenfurter, Luke Evans. Yeah.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: He did an amazing, he did an amazing, um, tribute
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: to Tim Curry. They brought him out. He had already
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: left the role of Frankenfurter on Broadway. But they invited
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: him back to be part of a group singing I'm
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Going Home from Rocky Horror in tribute to Tim Curry.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: And I thought that was really sweet.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Anyway, yeah, Sacrifice. Chris Evans plays a character called Mike Tyler,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: who is a movie star who is kidnapped by a
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: woman named Joan, played by my fake girlfriend. Don't tell
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: her she's my girlfriend, Anya Taylor-Joy, because Joan believes that
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: she needs to make three human sacrifices in order to
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: avert a catastrophic disaster. And Chris Evans character is one
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: of those three. And John Malkovich plays Anya Taylor Joy's father.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Honestly, it kind of gives me, it looks very funny.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: It looks pretty irreverent. The bizarreness of it gives me
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: vaguely being John Malkovich vibes. Cause it's just, it looks
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: weird as all heck.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of making me think of what if
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Midsommar was a comedy instead of a horror movie and
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: and flipping it around instead of it being a whole
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: cultish group inoculating a young woman. It's a young woman
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: who is imposing her beliefs forcefully on innocent victims. This
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: comes to Netflix on October 16th. I will say this
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: played at the Toronto Film Festival last year. So it's been,
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of been looking for distribution for
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: a year. Sadly, the critical response I could find from
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: when it was on the film festival circuit was pretty negative,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: like mixed to negative. And that's a kind of, that's
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: a big bummer. Cause I like Chris Evans and obviously
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I love Anya Taylor joy. Yeah. We're, we're fake devoted
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: to each other.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: And I like John Malkovich too. Yeah. He does some
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: interesting stuff.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Salma Hayek's also in it. Yeah.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: I like her too.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: I like her too.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Did you just add another fake girlfriend?
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't say no.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many people that would.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: She's definitely more age appropriate for me.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I might give it a try. Maybe it just
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: wasn't the the film festival circuits cup of tea, but
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: maybe it'll be a general. I guess they're hoping it'll
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: be more of a general public's cup of tea.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Since it's coming to Netflix, that makes it a
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: lot easier to check it out. Right. Like you're not
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: you're not sitting there thinking, oh, am I going to
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: dedicate 30 to $ 45 in tickets. And then there's all
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: the getting to the theater and parking and all that mess.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Like all the things that bar me from going to
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: see a lot of stuff. I'm trying to get better
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: about that. And I think this year I have been
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: better about it. I'd say you have. Yeah. Like I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: even considered getting the, uh, the AMC membership thing where
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: you can see up to like three or four movies
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: a week, but I just couldn't figure out how I
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: could make that work. So like logistically how to make
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: that work.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I've been considering doing the, like the mystery movies where
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: they show like a preview of a movie for like,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: you can get in for like five bucks or something. Um,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: but sometimes they're scary movies and I don't.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Want to, and sometimes they're just bad.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true too. Um, Next, we have a trailer
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: trailer for a T. Is it a TV show?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: It is a TV series.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Yes. Called Brothers, which focuses on something that I never knew,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: which is that Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson might be related. Honestly,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: if I had thought about it longer, they do have
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: very similar like ways that they speak and look and look.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah. this, this is, it's a scripted comedy series,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: but it is, uh, taking inspiration from this, this general
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: belief that the two might be half brothers because supposedly, um, Woody,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: I believe Woody Harrelson's, uh, Woody, Matthew McConaughey's mother may
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: have had relations with Woody Harrelson's dad during a time
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: where she was otherwise separated from the man that Matthew
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: McConaughey considers to be his actual father and that McConaughey
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: has resisted ever taking any kind of DNA test. Cause
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: he's like, I don't want to think differently of the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: man that I consider to be my dad. Like he's
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: my dad. You know, I don't want to anything to
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: make me think otherwise, but, And but the series is
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: a much more comedic kind of playful take on this
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: whole concept where Woody Harrelson's daughter was to get married.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: But that all falls apart. And then like Harrelson and
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: his family crash at McConaughey's ranch. And in the process,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: McConaughey's mother drops the bombshell that they might be related.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: I think that this looks absolutely delightful. Like it looks
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: funny and cheeky. but not in too crude, not mean spirited,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: not mean spirited. Like it honestly gives me very much
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: like the four seasons vibe, like the TV show that
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: I've been super into recently. Um, that's a base based
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: off of the Alan Alda old four seasons movie. Um, yeah,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: just kind of delightful and fun and easy to watch.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Like it again, super relatable humor. Um, what do you,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: what do you, there's a moment where like Woody Harrelson
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: is talking to his family, to his wife and his daughters.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: And it's just such a funny, seemingly truthful moment that I, that,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: that won me over.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I, I think it also is giving me
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: stepbrother vibes. But if you took stepbrothers and you made
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: the stepbrothers smarter and Texan, so, you know, a little
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: more grounded and, And a little more grounded. Yeah. They're not,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: it's not as, it's not zany like a stepbrothers movie,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: but it, there is like that. I mean, you're watching
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: for the incredible dynamic that Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: have between them. And it's nice to watch them in
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: something that's maybe not quite as heavy and dark as
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: true detective.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: And I respect true detective is very dark, but it's
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: also very good. And it's, I think one of my
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: favorite roles that I've seen is, mcconaughey play.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah he's great in it he's he's he's very unsettling.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah very nihilistic but it's it's so and albeit
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: i haven't watched a lot of things that he's done
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: but he does a lot of like rom-coms and stuff
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: like that which there's nothing wrong with that but like
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: it was so different from most of the stuff i
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: see him and that i loved it uh in this
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: trailer though it is surprising because i feel like i
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: i If you had asked me on the street, who
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: do you think is easier to understand speak? I would
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: have been like Matthew McConaughey, but listening to them talk
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: back to back. Well, no, it's Woody Harrelson. They both
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: have a little bit of a mumble, an accent that
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: goes on. So, yeah.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I I sit there whenever I see Woody Harrelson
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: in anything. There's always a moment where because it's just
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: something that I don't think about. It'll be like I
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: suddenly remember. That that's the same Woody Harrelson who was
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Woody in Cheers. And it's like the characters he plays
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: now are so different from that, you know, kind of
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: hayseed sort of naive country boy character that he played
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: in Cheers. But just also speaks to how long I've
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: been watching stuff with Woody Harrelson in it.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: I think my favorite performance of him. is in No
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Country for Old Men. I think he was great in that.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: He's great in lots of stuff, but I loved him
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: in that movie.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I sadly did not see that yet. I haven't
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: seen it yet. I do feel like I should watch
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: it at some point. Woody Harrelson is also very good
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: in True Detective. I just really don't like his character.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, he's he's despicable. He's a yeah, he's a
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: despicable character.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like I've seen him play characters.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: like that more often than I've seen McConaughey play characters
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: like the one he plays. So that's why I, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: I usually either see McConaughey playing the romantic interest in, in, uh,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: something like that. Or I see him playing the unflappable badass,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: like in, in Guy Ritchie's, uh, the gentleman he's, that's
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: how he is. He's like, like nothing can, can surprise
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: him or, or put him on the wrong foot. Uh, this, uh,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: series brothers comes out on apple TV plus on September 23rd.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Also Lisa Gilroy's in it.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I, I am so happy that she's sweeping
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: up so many roles. Yeah.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: She's getting a lot of work recently. Yeah.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: It's good. I'm happy for her. So old me might've
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: been a little bit like, I want to do that.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: And I do, but I'm thankfully in a point in
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: my life where I can just be truly, genuinely excited
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: for people who work hard. uh, to be really good
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: at what they do, to be able to do what
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: they do.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: So, well, don't worry if my age is anything, it'll
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: tell you that eventually you'll come back around to being
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: better again. So you got something to look forward to.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: I agree. No, I refuse Jonathan.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Um, next up we have something. I just happened to
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: come across this trailer and I was delighted by it.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: It's a trailer for a comedy drama series called, did
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: someone happen to mention me? And, uh, it hit kind
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: of close to home for me. Yeah.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's about an actor who in theory, everybody knows
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: who goes off to a Japanese actor. Is that correct?
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's Japanese, but he gets, he, for like a
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: couple of years, he's working in London at the globe
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: theater and becomes like a, a, a renowned stage actor.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But then when he goes back to Japan, nobody remembers.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Him, which is including his own family. Yeah.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: So that's, That's a little like that feels a little
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: bit weird because, you know, a lot of actors do
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: fall out of the limelight and do get very much
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: get that feeling of nobody. Did anybody talk about me?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Does anybody remember me? You know, like that's a very
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: real feeling when you're in the entertainment industry, especially if
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: you let fame get to your head, you know. But yeah,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: that makes it a little bit more. Fantastical feeling for sure,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: but it looks really good and fun.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I I thought. that this one really looks interesting. I,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: I do identify with this, this battle between, you know,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: you just trying to live your life and battling your
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: own ego. Cause like, I've definitely had that kind of, I've,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: I've Googled my own name more than once. I don't
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: do it frequently every now and then I will, if
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling low and I'm like, Hey, look, someone actually
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: said something nice about me 17 years ago. This comes
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: to Netflix on October 22nd. I definitely, definitely think I'm
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: going to check this out because the trailer was really uh.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Appealing to me same same uh the the lead actor
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: is it koji yakusho i.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Did not write down his name sadly.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Uh he has also been in 13 assassins he's been
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: in uh i believe the last ronin um yes so
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: lots of lots of good stuff a lot of other
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: stuff too uh shall we dance the blood of wolves
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: a bunch of just a bunch of stuff he is
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: a very good actor so i'm i look forward to
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: it yeah.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: Me too uh then we have a comedy series coming
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: out on cbs on october 8th it's called eternally yours it's.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Done by the same people who did ghosts which jonathan
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: loves ghosts.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: I do both both the idea of them and the series.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: That's good because you got so many roommate now um.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: Well, according to Tybalt, like he'll just stare up at
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: a corner sometimes and like ghosts again.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate when pets do that. I hate it
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: so much.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: But Eternally Yours is not about ghosts. It's about vampires.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Vampires. Yeah, it's a girl who gets a boyfriend and
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: brings her brings him home to meet the family. And
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: the family is really bad at hiding that they're vampires.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's not they're not like. Family, family. It's
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: like a found family because they're all vampires. Right. And
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: they're all living in the house together. And so there's
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: some like what we do in the shadows kind of
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: vibes going on here, except it's not a mockumentary. It
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: is a sitcom.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It looks like if Twilight were healthy, oddly healthier
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: dynamics and also funny. Yeah.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought, I thought the, the trailer was pretty charming.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Like I wasn't bold over, but you know, I'm, I'm
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: curious about it. I don't, it's, it's hard because what
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: we do in the shadows set a really high bar
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: for vampire comedy. And I just don't think this is
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: going to touch it is a different style of comedy though.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: Like I recognize it's not trying to do the exact
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: same thing. It's just, I don't know that it's going
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: to delight me in the same ways that what we
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: do in the shadows did.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Well, let me, let me tell you, I didn't think
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: so at the beginning either, because also like it's good.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: It's just another take on ghosts kind of. Yeah. But
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: the moment when the younger got like the, the younger, um,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: he's not the younger brother, but he's a younger vampire.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: He plays like a brother figure in the family talks about, uh,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: dating mortals. And then Rose Abdu comes in as, as
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: an older woman, because people are just living longer. Yeah.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: That made me laugh so hard, but also Rose Abdu
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: is very funny and she makes me laugh all the time.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The gimmick is that the two of the characters
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: are a married couple who have been married for centuries now.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: And how how that is soul draining for both of
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: them you get the feeling from the guy that maybe
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: he was feeling that way from the jump but definitely
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: both of them are feeling it now and so that's
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: when the the younger guy is like uh that's your
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: that's your mistake you know you never should have married
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: a vampire you marry a mortal because they will die
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: sadly they do live longer now so that's the joke
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: uh but I'm sure that'll be, and, and she also
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: gets her mind wiped a lot, which again, things be,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: it makes me think of what we do in the shadows, but, uh,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: this comes out, like I said, October 8th on CBS,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: then streams the next day on paramount plus. So maybe
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: I won't have to worry about it.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Cause I don't have that. I, I do kind of
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: want to see it though. Um, but we'll see. Uh,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: the next thing is a trailer for Cassie workman is
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: witchy AF.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Uh, This is definitely more of a Jonathan than a
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: me thing. So like the trailer didn't super appeal to me.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: So I'll let you talk about it.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. I loved this trailer. So, yeah, this
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: is a YouTube series for the channel Etch, E-T-C-H. And
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Cassie Workman, she's the the host. And she's she's hosting
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: in like a fake room. occult bookshop and the the
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: premise is she's going to explore different aspects of the
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: occult but she's also going to have lots of guests
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: on and there's going to be little cheeky rude sketches
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: as well uh while she it kind of makes me
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: think a little bit of drunk history except without the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: drunk angle but it's like this idea of exploring a
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: topic but in a comedic way It starts on September 16th,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: like I said, on YouTube, on the Edge channel. Watch
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: the trailer. I was unfamiliar with Cassie Workman, but this trailer,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: I thought she was so funny. And I love the
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: fact that they incorporate puppetry into the series. I think
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: that's fantastic, too. It is, like I said, cheeky and raunchy. So, again,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: not family friendly.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it It vaguely gave me the same vibe as
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: the Curious Creations of Christine McConnell.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: I am unfamiliar with that.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: That was a DIY baking show on Netflix that was
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: creepy with puppets. Interesting. I know you're not on social
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: media anymore, but she used to be famous for making
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: the face hugger cakes and all that.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Like hyper-realistic. She's a very good baker. She makes some
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: really incredibly intricate things. She's very gothy and creepy. You
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: might like it. It was definitely interesting from a from
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: a baker and decorator perspective. I thought it was super interesting.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: I could never make the stuff she makes, but it
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: gave me same vibes. I do think that Cassie Workman
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: has some really clever delivery. Just the jokes in the
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: trailer didn't super land for me. And then but that
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: might be because like occult stuff is never like super
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: my bag, you know?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think friend of the show, Shaylee, and I
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: are just going to be doing like binging sessions. I
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: think there's going to be eight episodes total and they
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: come out each week. Uh, they're going to come out
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: while I am on vacation. Uh, so I'll have to
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: wait and I'll have to have friend of the show.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Shaylee swear upon her tarot deck that she will not
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: watch episodes without me because I really want to see that.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling Becca will want to see it too.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: So we'll probably have to figure out like maybe like
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: an October, uh, spooky time weekend get together where we watch,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: this because I think it looks it's right up my street.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope it is everything you hope it is.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: And also, yeah, we're getting to that season. I'm not
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: ready for it yet where people are really itching. Part
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: of it's the heat, especially in Georgia, really itching for
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: the spoopy season.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: I'm itching for the weather. I'm itching for it to
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: be cooler and drier. I want the humidity to drop
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: below 20 percent. and I want the temperature to drop
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: below 78. If those two things happen, you can keep
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: all your ghosts and skeletons and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: If that's the trade-off I have to make, so be it.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: I love spooky season, but I am going out of
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: my mind. Even on our coolest days, when I take
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Tybalt out for his morning walk, by the time I
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: get back, I need to take a shower and do
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: a complete change of clothing. I go out in a
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: fresh set of clothes. By the time I come back,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like... These are ruined.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: It has been super hot. I, this is the, I
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: often am sad that I don't have a dog. One,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: because I think a dog is a rewarding pet and
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: I love them. And two, because most of my community
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: knows each other because they walk their dogs and they
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: talk on their dog walks. But at times like this,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: I'm happy that my pets stay indoors. So I do
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: try to go out and touch grass briefly each day,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: just to remember there is an outside and to get
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: like all the benefits from, you know, standing in sunlight
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: for a few minutes, but yeah, the heat has been unbearable.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: I'm just also at this point right now where I,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: you know, as you get older, time goes faster. I'm
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: not saying I'm old. I'm not old, but you know,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: you can be like, where did the week go? Or
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: you get too busy and you're not living. You're not
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: living in the present. You're not present in each moment.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: And you're like, where did the week go? Where did
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: the month go? How are we already at the end
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: of August? And, Um, and I've, I've just gotten to
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: a point where I'm like, I hate that feeling. So
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: I'm trying not to wish away any days to get
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: to future days quicker and be more appreciative of each day.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: Even if it's a rough day of the little things
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: in it, like I'm, I say I'm keeping a gratitude journal.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Have I touched it in two months? No, but it is,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: the intent is there. Um, so yeah, I will endure
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: the heat for now, but I wouldn't mind if it
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: got cooler.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: As some, as someone who, works in an office that
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: has no air conditioning in it. I am ready for
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: the heat to stop.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Which means we should get to this last
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: story before you, uh, melt like chocolate.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, uh, you know, speaking of all that, cause
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Ariel is the, the master of the segue. We got
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: a trailer for a reality TV game show series on, uh, Netflix,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: I believe for Wonka's the golden ticket, which, uh, I
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: found fascinating, but there was something that was giving me
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: some concern and I was hoping and hoping and hoping
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: that maybe I was wrong about it. But Ariel, before
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: we started recording, told me that I was worried for
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: good reason.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Yes. so it is based off of the gene wilder
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: version of the movie but it's the reality show um
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: and uh jonathan was curious on whether they were using
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: uh an actor who sounded like gene wilder to do
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: the voiceover in the factory that all of the contestants
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: are in or whether they used AI. And it turns out,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's like 11, whatever AI company it is. TLDR.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: It is AI. I think it's like 11, 11 studios
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: or something like that. I forgot to write the name
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: down and I closed the tab, but I did confirm
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: that this is something that they did with the full
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: cooperation and sign off from Gene Wilder's widow and his estate.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: I whatever that's worth. You know, I'm glad that they
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: got they did it with permission. I just hate it.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: The premise here is that a group of different a
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: group of people are all gathered together to go to
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory. So it's this big set that's
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: been made up to look like iconic locations within the film,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: including like the lickable wallpaper and the the big room
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: with the chocolate river, all that kind of stuff. And
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: they compete in various challenges, and they get eliminated until
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: whoever is left wins a quote-unquote lifetime supply of money.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. Like, I don't know
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: how much money is a lifetime supply. But that's the gimmick, right?
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: That's the prize. It's not a lifetime supply of chocolates.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: It's a lifetime supply of money. And while I was
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: watching this trailer, I was like, man, this is a
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: game show I wouldn't have minded... participating in because i
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: love that willie wonka movie so much and it's just
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: such a whimsical kind of a take on the competitive
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: reality game show but as soon as i started hearing
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: that voice i was like is this an impressionist or
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: is this ai because if it's an impressionist i'm okay
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: with it and if it's ai i'm not as okay
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: with it and i was like if it's an impressionist
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: it's someone who sounds 90% of the way to Gene Wilder.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: But there were moments where I'm like, well, that doesn't
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: really sound like Gene Wilder. Maybe it is an impressionist.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: No, sadly, it's not. So watching the trailer after you...
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: As soon as you said it could be... Because I
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: didn't even think about it, right? As soon as you said,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: I hope it's not AI, I was like, oh, that
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: does kind of sound vaguely AI. There are just moments
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: where it's lacking. So they wanted... I'm going to quote
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: from the Variety.com article, which talks about it a little bit.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Wilder's estate worked with the AI company Eleven Labs to
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: generate a replica of the actor's voice. Quote, unquote, said
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: his wife, Karen B. Wilder, in a statement. However, listening
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: to it, the thing that kind of made me think
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: it might be AI, even though I was also hopeful
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: it wasn't, was the fact that the delivery lacked a
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: little bit of genuine warmth to it at moments.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: It felt a little robotic. But again, I understand where
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: she's coming from. I would imagine that she has the best,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: most intuitive say on what Mr. Wilder would have wanted. So....
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know. I still feel
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: like I definitely feel wrong. I don't like it. I
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: wish I could say I could give more grace than that.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: But part of it is that like if this were
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: just Wonka, the golden ticket, and it's just tapping into
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: the road doll property of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: and it's not any one interpretation of that but rather
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: an interpretation of that i would probably be okay but
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: it is clearly the 1970s what willie wonka and the
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: chocolate factory interpretation i mean the oompa loompas are styled
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: after the oompa loompas in that movie um it is
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: and it's gene wilder's voice and everything and it just
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: doesn't sit right with me and i have a problem
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: with that it's Cause this otherwise what feels like something
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: that was designed to get me on board.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let me, let me just say this is
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: to not ruin anything because I do love Gene Wilder.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: I think he was an amazing comedian and actor. I
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: liked his version of Willy Wonka, you know, but every,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: every step of it has, you know, it's not a
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: perfect project because Roald Dahl was problematic and, That's.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Putting it lightly.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, that is putting it lightly. The story had to
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: be adjusted. Beyond that, some people don't like how Gene
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: Wilder chose to actually scare the kids to get a
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: good response, you know? That's definitely an older Hollywood mindset.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Some people love that. Some people do their best work
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: that way, but I don't know if a kid could
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: always weigh in on that. I would have appreciated it,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: but you know. And than AI. So yeah. Yeah.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's, you know, I feel like I've said
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: pretty much all I need to say about this. It
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: comes out September 23rd. So if you are curious about,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: you can check it out. I was not picked to
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: be in this. I didn't know it existed until the
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: trailer came out. So I had no chance. Not that
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: I think I would have done well anyway, because I'm
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: sure there's going to be like physical challenges that I'm
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: just not capable of doing because I'm out of shape.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: It does look like it would have been fun to
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: be a part of. if my back weren't recovering, I
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: think I could do the physical stuff. The only, the
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: only part that I wouldn't want to do, and this
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: is really weird because it's not normally me, but I
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: think post COVID brain, having people lick wallpaper next to
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: each other upset me a little bit. I don't know why.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of that either. Even if
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: the snozzberries do taste like snozzberries, I'm like first just
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: being ached out by the sound. Just imagine for a second,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: you're in an enclosed room and the sound is, of
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: multiple people around you licking the wall. Like let alone
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: the visual, just hearing the sound of over and over again.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: I would be like, I would be crawling out of
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: my skin.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe some of them aren't loud lickers.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: Did you see that group that I've never seen? They
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: were a bunch of, if they're not loud lickers, they're
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: filthy lint lickers.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: It could, it could have been like the, the cat,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: maybe their mouths are all very dry. It doesn't look
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: like it. Cause the licky stuff all was very smeary,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: but maybe they're like cats. So it's more of like
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: a sandpaper sound.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: Then it's raspy. That's a raspy.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: That's not better to you.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: It's like, that'd be like sandpaper. No, it's not better.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: Sandpaper to me is better than, I.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: Guess, I guess technically it is better. I just still
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: don't want to hear it. Like, is it better? Yeah.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: Kind of the way, like, a paper cut is better
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: than losing a finger, but I still don't want to
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: have a paper cut.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. Fair enough. Well, we've reached the end of
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: our episode. So Jonathan, if people want to tell us,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: and you've said that you have nothing else to say
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: about this, so I'm not cutting you off. If people
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: want to tell us whether they'd like to be a
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: part of this reality show or any other thoughts they
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: have about the things we've talked about, how would they
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: reach out?
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: Well, you kind of need to go running around in
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: the early morning hours in a little village somewhere with
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: the cobblestone streets and stop as you hear this sort
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: of jangling noise. And you're going to turn and you're
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: going to see there's going to be a man pushing
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: a cart that's got like all these metal tools hanging
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: from it. And then you're going to hear nobody ever
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: comes in. Nobody ever goes out. Well, he points to
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: my house. And if you're brave enough to knock on
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: my door, then I will answer it and I will
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: answer whatever question you want. And then after that, sadly,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: I am going to have to end your life because
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: I don't want people knowing where I live.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, goodness. We don't want that to happen. So maybe
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: reach out to us in the regular ways, which is
• 1:27:16
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• 1:27:20
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• 1:27:23
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• 1:27:29
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• 1:27:34
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• 1:27:36
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• 1:27:38
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• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: And until next time, I'm turning, I'm Ariel turning into
• 1:27:48
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• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: Dang it. You took mine. Cause I was going to say,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, and I'm Jonathan. I got
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: a blueberry for a daughter, Strickland. Wait, I'm your daughter.
• 1:28:00
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• 1:28:07
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• 1:28:16
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