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Jaguars Happy Hour | Camp Wrap-Up, Defensive Standouts & Trevor Lawrence's Growth · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August 27th.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jack Bar's Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: And now, a guy who believes Atlantic Beach should be
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  Speaker 1: renamed Sexton on the Beach, Brian Sexton. You talking about
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: the drink or the community? I'll take either one. I'll
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: take either one. Love Atlantic Beach. I'm a little nervous
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: every time Joe opens his mouth. And I've known him
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: for 32 years. And I'm still a little nervous every
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: time he opens his mouth.
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  Speaker 2: He's awfully good.
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  Speaker 1: Now, two guys who do not make me nervous, and
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  Speaker 1: if I'm being completely honest, this is my third night
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: hosting this show. And I walk in, and I've known
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  Speaker 1: Loggie for years, and so I say, well, this will
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  Speaker 1: be an easy show. Loggie's here. And then you walk in,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Duffner, and I think, I'm just going to sit
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  Speaker 1: back and listen to two of you guys talk ball
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  Speaker 1: all night. Sound good?
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  Speaker 3: I think we talked about a good 45 minutes of ball.
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  Speaker 3: We went From Maryland's history to William and Mary to
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  Speaker 3: Oklahoma and Nebraska back in the glory days.
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  Speaker 1: Back in the 70s and 80s.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we were all over the football map.
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  Speaker 1: And now we're going to dial in a little bit
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  Speaker 1: and get to Northeast Florida.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we saved all our Jaguars talk. We didn't expel
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  Speaker 3: any of that yet.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't open up that drawer yet.
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  Speaker 1: Talking is not a problem for this room. Stopping maybe,
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  Speaker 1: but talking is not. Welcome to Hyundai Studios, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: for Jaguar's Happy Hour. Brian, Jeff, and Duff. We'll hit
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  Speaker 1: you with a couple topics before we get into the
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  Speaker 1: meat of it. What did you think of the rivalry unis?
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  Speaker 1: They unveiled them earlier this week. You know, everyone's wearing them.
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  Speaker 1: You're free to say whatever you'd like.
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  Speaker 3: My wife is going to be the first one to say,
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  Speaker 3: don't say a thing because you're not a fashion guy.
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  Speaker 3: Because I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: Well, tell me something that you liked from them.
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  Speaker 3: Um... I like the style of the letters.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say the exact same thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I like the style of the letters.
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  Speaker 1: I like the script, I think it's probably called.
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  Speaker 3: I like the cat... What do you call these things?
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  Speaker 3: The spots?
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  Speaker 1: The spots that are in the.
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  Speaker 2: In the pants?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, in the pants.
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  Speaker 3: In the numbers?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like that.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Like that, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Something you liked?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked the teal.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I liked the teal color. That's our fighting color, if
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  Speaker 2: you will, in my mind.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I like that a lot. And I'm with logs.
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  Speaker 2: I like the spots. I like the lettering, too. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the helmet.
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  Speaker 1: Does the gold face mask throw you? No, I like
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  Speaker 1: the gold face.
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  Speaker 3: Mask, but I would have liked a different kind of teal.
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  Speaker 1: Like a matte? The shininess throw you?
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  Speaker 4: No, no.
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  Speaker 3: It's like I want to see a deeper hue of teal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of with him on that too, but
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  Speaker 2: I love teal.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little light.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm not a fashion guy either.
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  Speaker 3: Just me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a fashion guy either.
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  Speaker 3: Just me.
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  Speaker 1: I love the script.
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  Speaker 3: Love the script. Love the numbers. So classy.
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  Speaker 1: And people get all strong opinions about it. Look, it's
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  Speaker 1: for fun, right? Yeah. I mean, they're going to wear
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  Speaker 1: it once.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's to make money. Oh, no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 2: Three years, huh? I think it's a three-year exposure. They're
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  Speaker 2: going to wear it three times?
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  Speaker 3: I think so.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 1: But it's once a year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And they're going to wear them against the courts.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I loved the script. I thought that was great.
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  Speaker 1: I had to ask you. Second, no more Pro Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: They are doing away with the actual playing.
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  Speaker 3: Of the Pro Bowl game. It's about time. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: when Shader Sanders is making the Pro Bowl, what are
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  Speaker 3: we doing?
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  Speaker 1: From that perspective.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look, no offense. I'm not saying anything bad
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  Speaker 3: about Shader Sanders.
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  Speaker 1: But he's not even the starting quarterback in Cleveland this year.
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  Speaker 3: He's just, I think, the shining example from this past year.
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  Speaker 3: And then when you start going down the depth chart
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  Speaker 3: and you're getting Joe Schmoe, who literally is not even a–
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  Speaker 3: because you've got 32 teams, and let's say he's a
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  Speaker 3: left guard– and he's not even amongst the top 16
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  Speaker 3: best left guards in football, and he's making a Pro Bowl,
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  Speaker 3: what are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gotten watered down for sure. You're 100% correct.
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  Speaker 2: At many positions, and that's not what the fans really want,
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  Speaker 2: so I think they're going to come together kind of
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  Speaker 2: with a celebratory night. And I think that's a good idea.
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  Speaker 1: I have nostalgia for the last gasp of football. If
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  Speaker 1: you remember it, when they played it at the Hula Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: you've been there. And everybody wore their team helmet with
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  Speaker 1: the different color uniform, the American and the national. And
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  Speaker 1: it was the week after the Super Bowl. And it
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  Speaker 1: was that last little gasp. You weren't going to get
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  Speaker 1: much football. This was pre-internet days, right? Football didn't last
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  Speaker 1: all year long like it does now. And it was
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  Speaker 1: that last little bit that you were going to get.
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  Speaker 1: And you didn't want to let go of it. Because
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  Speaker 1: you knew you weren't going to see it again for
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  Speaker 1: a while.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, of course.
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  Speaker 3: But I used to love watching the Pro Bowls. And
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  Speaker 3: if you went back a few years ago, okay, when
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  Speaker 3: I say a few years ago, before the money got big. Correct. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl actually was a competitive game as you
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  Speaker 3: got into the fourth quarter because.
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  Speaker 2: Ching-A-Lay was on the line.
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  Speaker 3: What was the difference in winning and losing team in
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  Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl back in the 80s?
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  Speaker 2: It was a reasonable amount. I mean, it wasn't bad.
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  Speaker 3: It was like 10, 15 grand difference, right?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to say it was.
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  Speaker 3: And so all of a sudden you'd see the volume
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  Speaker 3: get turned up a little bit in the second half.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the other thing, it was a reward for the
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  Speaker 2: coaching staff. If you didn't go to the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: you were not the next best teams to coach that thing.
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  Speaker 2: And you're in Hawaii. I mean, geez, Pete, the hula
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  Speaker 2: girls and everything else.
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  Speaker 3: Paid. Paid vacation.
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  Speaker 1: Paid, no. They probably stayed at a nice place. You
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  Speaker 1: weren't staying at the Motel 6.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they were. No, not at all.
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  Speaker 3: Big time event. And that was worth something, too.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: You had money, which, look, you could make. It was
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  Speaker 3: like getting an extra game check or multiple game checks
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  Speaker 3: at the time. And then to have a paid family vacation,
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  Speaker 3: what's wrong with that?
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  Speaker 1: No, nothing's wrong with that.
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  Speaker 2: It was a perk you look forward to or an
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  Speaker 2: opportunity you look forward to. Daggone, I was praying I'd
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  Speaker 2: get a chance. Never got a chance to go, but
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  Speaker 2: I was praying I would.
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  Speaker 3: So now you've got a guy that's making, let's say,
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  Speaker 3: just make this easy, right? Yeah. It's what, 17 paychecks now?
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  Speaker 3: Or excuse me, 18 paychecks now, counting the bye week?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so let's say he's making $ 18 million a year.
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  Speaker 3: His game check is $ 1 million a week. Okay, so...
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  Speaker 3: At the Pro Bowl, you're making $ 30, 000. You're going, I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Unless you go to Hawaii when they pay for all
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  Speaker 1: your expenses.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but when you're making a million a week, it's like, oh. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it's gone. It's gone.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder what percentage of our audience doesn't even remember that, right?
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, it's the Pro Bowl games. Forget it.
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  Speaker 1: Move it on. Who needs it? I agree with you
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  Speaker 1: on that, right? In its current state, who cares? They're
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  Speaker 1: still going to honor pro bowlers. There's still going to
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  Speaker 1: be a distinction for those players who earned the respect
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  Speaker 1: of players, coaches, and fans. So at least that will
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  Speaker 1: come out.
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  Speaker 2: For sure. And I'll tell you what, I'm pleased to
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  Speaker 2: tell you that the teams that I've been around really
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  Speaker 2: studied and worked at the players voting at that. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't a halfway thing. They really worked at it. And
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  Speaker 2: so when you got elected to that by your peers,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the players part of it, I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was a really good thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a couple hiccups or I guess you
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  Speaker 3: could say shortcomings to the Pro Bowl a little bit. So,
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  Speaker 3: for example, because I've been in the room where we
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  Speaker 3: have voted as players.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And let's say we had a guy on our team
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  Speaker 3: that we thought was really deserving. Let's say we got
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  Speaker 3: Cam Little. We want Cam Little.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Right? And there's another really good kicker. Okay, that's in
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  Speaker 3: our conference.
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  Speaker 1: What, a strategery here?
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  Speaker 3: We would intentionally not vote for that guy because you
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  Speaker 3: weren't allowed to vote for your own guy so that
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  Speaker 3: the other guy didn't get your vote. I mean, so
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  Speaker 3: in a way... It was a little off, but now
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  Speaker 3: that's just a player's vote, and it's obviously a compilation
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  Speaker 3: of coaches, players, and fans.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the other side of the coin always was the
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  Speaker 1: fans had about a third of the vote. Well, you know, Dallas,
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  Speaker 1: New York, Green Bay, Pittsburgh. I mean, they had such
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  Speaker 1: a running start on everyone else because their fan base
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  Speaker 1: is so big.
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  Speaker 3: Look at Fred Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly where I was going. People used to talk
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  Speaker 1: about Fred and Fred not getting his just due. Well,
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  Speaker 1: a third of the vote, he was so far behind
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  Speaker 1: just because... Just the number of Steelers fans.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent point. Because they did. Those bigger markets shaped a
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  Speaker 2: lot of that. That's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: The historic markets had that opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to Jaguars football. We've got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: it for you. Training camp ended yesterday. And Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: came to the microphone to share his thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: I always feel like there's always something around the corner
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  Speaker 4: to stay ready for. Because, you know, next week is
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  Speaker 4: kind of an in-between week as well. And we've still
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  Speaker 4: got some prep this week to finish up.
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  Speaker 3: But, I mean.
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  Speaker 4: just in general, that feeling of the season being so
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  Speaker 4: close and obviously in camp, when you start off, it's just,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you have so much camp ahead of you
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  Speaker 4: and so much time to work on different things and
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  Speaker 4: it can be kind of a grind.
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  Speaker 3: But then now when you get.
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  Speaker 4: To this point, you're like, man, we got, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: two weeks, less than two weeks before we're preparing to
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  Speaker 4: play Cleveland. But I mean, we play in basically two weeks.
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  Speaker 4: So no, that sounds crazy thinking about it and just
• 9:03
  Speaker 4: realize how close it is, how far we've come, but
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  Speaker 4: still how much work we have to do to, get
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  Speaker 4: ready for week one and uh we're on track but
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  Speaker 4: we just got to keep we got to keep plugging
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  Speaker 4: away every day.
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: So the pre-season buy is what they're calling it now
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  Speaker 1: everybody's off next week um some teams are probably traveling
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: to australia right because they've got to get ready for
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: that trip uh your thoughts on they'll be on the
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: practice field a couple of days and then i think
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: they've got to have friday off so the players get
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: a three-day weekend before they have to report for that
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: monday bonus practice that that you have talked about yeah
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  Speaker 1: which makes you.
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  Speaker 2: A League-wide is, hey, remember where we are and remember
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: who you are and act accordingly. You're always terrified that
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: you're going to get a late call.
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  Speaker 1: So from yesterday, Tuesday's practice. Yesterday, they really didn't practice
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  Speaker 1: against the Buccaneers. They just practiced on adjoining fields. But
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  Speaker 1: from Tuesday's practice, which was that physical practice, until the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars get back at it on the Wednesday— about two
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  Speaker 1: weeks of work, but a long span there for the
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: Jaguars to make sure they're dialed in and ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: What's the strategy next week with these guys? Working on yourself?
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  Speaker 1: Are you working on the Browns?
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  Speaker 3: No, you're working on yourself and a little bit on
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  Speaker 3: the Browns, I think, from that standpoint. But To go
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: back to the breaking camp thing, I mean, breaking camp
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  Speaker 3: used to be a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, now breaking camp I don't think is that
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  Speaker 3: big of a deal. And, I mean, Trevor kind of said,
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: we broke camp? You know, it's kind of a question because,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the guys, I mean, in training camp now
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  Speaker 3: it's a little different than kind of how it used
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  Speaker 3: to be where you were holed up and you had
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: bed check every night and, you know, you had basically
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  Speaker 3: the entire day carved out for you and you had
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  Speaker 3: little to no free time whatsoever. Right. And it's a
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  Speaker 3: little different now. And I'm not one of these old
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  Speaker 3: guys saying, ah, those guys are soft nowadays. No, it
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  Speaker 3: should have been what it is today back in the day,
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  Speaker 3: in my opinion, just throwing that out there.
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  Speaker 2: No, the application for player safety and doing things right
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  Speaker 2: with all the innovations they've got, you're dead on. And
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  Speaker 2: how you explain that was excellent for our listeners, because again,
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  Speaker 2: camp was a rigorous deal. As you said, the day
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  Speaker 2: was completely used up for the players. And so when
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  Speaker 2: When the end of camp came in those days, boy,
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  Speaker 2: it was a celebration.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't even have a place to do laundry. For real,
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  Speaker 3: I went to camp, and you were wearing, you had
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: maybe three sets of clothes.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't good in the meeting room, let me
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: say that at times.
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  Speaker 3: No, and it's not like you had a laundry service.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: So you just walked in with your toothbrush.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty much. And every now and again, what you would
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: try to do as a player back in the day... Okay,
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: so all players have laundry bags, right? Okay, it's a
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: little mesh bag. It's got a rubber tie at the top,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And so your jock, your socks, your shorts,
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  Speaker 3: your T-shirt, they all get washed in there.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: Everybody, right? You hope somebody doesn't have a pair of
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: purple drawers that all of a sudden bleeds on everything.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: That sometimes happens.
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  Speaker 3: And then you also hope that nobody else got a
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  Speaker 3: hold of your bag because then they would put Bengay
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  Speaker 3: in your jock, which is not good.
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  Speaker 1: We are going old school tonight.
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  Speaker 3: As a player back in the day, when you didn't
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  Speaker 3: have laundry service, you would try to sneak some of
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  Speaker 3: your clothes that you wore on a day-to-day basis into
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  Speaker 3: the laundry bag so it would get washed by the team.
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  Speaker 2: A tremendous vet move, and I saw that firsthand. So
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  Speaker 2: what he's telling you is dead on right now. The rookies,
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  Speaker 2: they had– Understood that. But the pros, those guys knew
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  Speaker 2: what they could do with the wash and so forth.
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: It was excellent. And you could always bust the guys
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  Speaker 3: that did that, okay? Because when you wash laundry and
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  Speaker 3: it stays in this bag... It looks like a clumpled,
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: wrinkled mess.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And so when Joe Bob would, you know, after practice,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he'd put on a shirt and it's wrinkled
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  Speaker 3: to the hill.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it smells clean. You're like, dude, you're stashing your
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  Speaker 3: shirt in a laundry bag.
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  Speaker 2: You know where you've been, brother.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: How about a quick look at the UF Health injury
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  Speaker 1: report before we take our first break of the evening? Presented, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: by UF Health, the official health care partner of the
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. I want to get your opinion on how
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: healthy this team is. Two guys of note, both receivers.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: One is Brian Thomas Jr., who landed on his shoulder.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: And the second is Jacoby Myers. Both nicked up, but
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: it sounds like both guys will be ready to go
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: when the team returns to the practice field to get
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: ready for the Cleveland Browns.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's a big concern. Jacoby looks good.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and Brian... it was like the first play
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  Speaker 3: in the joint practice against the rocks. It's a go,
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  Speaker 3: it's like a go route.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he does.
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  Speaker 3: And it was great. I wish he'd caught it, but, uh, nonetheless,
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  Speaker 3: he lands on his shoulder and he kind of, he,
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: I saw him, he, and it was his left shoulder.
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  Speaker 3: So he, he grabs at inside the collar of it.
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: And you're like, okay. And you hope that's not a
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: separated shoulder.
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: Which is kind of, that's the first reaction, but, um, yeah,
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: they don't think it's anything serious. Uh, coach Cone, Cone
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: said that it should be good.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: And, Seems like a fairly healthy team as they get
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: set to break camp.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Praise the Lord.
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  Speaker 3: Can you name a team around the league that's had less?
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, no significant injuries.
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: Pretty good.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Again, praise the Lord. Because a week ago now, we
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: were all nervous as a jaybird about the health of
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: the offensive line. But, again, we've got great medical staff here,
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: great training staff here. They're aware of the latest in
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: terms of modalities, et cetera. And these guys have come back.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Tremendous.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of teams start to step on you.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of teams that have lost significant
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: players starting center in Los Angeles for the Chargers and
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: in Baltimore. I mean, there's lots of guys who have
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: gone down. So it's the name of the game. Injuries
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: are something that everyone deals with. But as we head
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: into our first break and out of training camp. Jaguars
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: are a fairly healthy team, and that's brought to you
• 15:10
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• 15:14
  Speaker 1: If the evening we come back, we'll dive into the
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: defense and what Jeff and Duff saw during the joint
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: practice on Tuesday. You're listening to Jaguars Happy Hour on 1010XL, 92.5,
• 15:25
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• 15:33
  Speaker 1: We're back on Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars and Buccaneers tomorrow night,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: 7.37 for the kickoff. And the game is presented by
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• 15:46
  Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. So we're going to turn to defense,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: and let's start that with the defensive coordinator, who is
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: a tremendous football coach. Always fun to listen to. Here's
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Anthony Campanile, who last year had the number one run
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  Speaker 1: defense in football, and it was pointed out to him,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: you know, you guys have been playing good this year. Typical.
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  Speaker 1: Duffy's like you. He won't take any credit. So here's
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: his thought on his run defense.
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  Speaker 5: If you're playing good run defense, you're trying to eliminate
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: as much 50-50 ball as you can. And in any event,
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: whether you're doing a great job in the pass game
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: or the run game, if you're making somebody one-dimensional, that's
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: a good thing. But what I will say is I
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: think I kind of see that vice versa, meaning that
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: we've gotten a lot better going against the guys we're
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: going against every day. Last year and this year, I
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: think our offensive line coaches have done an unbelievable job.
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  Speaker 2: And Liam is a goddess.
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  Speaker 5: He's going to pound the rock.
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  Speaker 3: He believes in that.
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  Speaker 5: So that's something that's really helped us defensively, practicing physical
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  Speaker 5: and getting the opportunity to go against guys who are
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: technicians and who are coaching finish every day.
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  Speaker 2: So that's where we've benefited.
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  Speaker 1: When we talk defense, that focus is brought to you
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  Speaker 3: All right, so I got a question for Duff. When
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: he's talking about 50-50 ball, what is he talking about
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  Speaker 3: with that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, getting him down in distance situations where they've got
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: that play call available to them. So we want to
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: get him off track so– we play great run defense,
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  Speaker 2: get them behind the sticks, if you will, now we
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: can attack the pass game.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's important to bring that up because
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  Speaker 3: what we're talking about here is put them in obvious downs.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so first and ten, you know, is primarily, you know,
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  Speaker 3: could be pass, could be run. There you go. But
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  Speaker 3: the 50-50 ball, eliminate the 50-50 ball, really starts on
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  Speaker 3: the next two downs.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: So if a team is in second and seven plus,
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  Speaker 3: eight plus, a little bit more predictable as far as
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: run past what it's going to be if it's second
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  Speaker 3: and four or five then all of a sudden as
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: a coordinator you're like what do i call do i
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  Speaker 3: call a defense that is built to stop the run
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  Speaker 3: do i call a defense that's built to stop the
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  Speaker 3: pass and then when you get the third down it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of the same thing when you get the third
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  Speaker 3: and three.
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  Speaker 2: Or less right hundred percent what you did explaining that
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  Speaker 2: was excellent you want to win first down we've got
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  Speaker 2: to get them off track so that means again it's
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  Speaker 2: two yards or less or tfl's on first down to
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  Speaker 2: put yourself in the best call you.
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  Speaker 3: Can and i i love his attitude.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh oh i do too i mean i
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: i love how he explained things you know he's got
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  Speaker 2: this group playing now i'm telling you right now and
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: that I love the attitude that he's got. He's quick
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  Speaker 2: to praise the players, but if they're not doing what
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: they're supposed to do, he's going to address that too.
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  Speaker 1: He's excellent. 85 yards a game roughly is what they
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  Speaker 1: gave up last year, number one.
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  Speaker 2: Best in the league.
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  Speaker 1: Are they still built to play that way?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously I think that how you end up
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: doing in the middle, the middle of your defense is
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: always key for stopping the run. And you've got to
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: start with Devon Hamilton and Matt Dickerson. I mean, those
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: two guys are– I mean, we all know about Devon
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: because he looks like he weighs about 385 pounds, but
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know what he weighs.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: He looks 385. I've heard he's 360, 355. But he
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: looks bigger than that. He plays like he's extremely big.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: He plays big.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: But Matt Dickerson is so strong in the middle– And
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: what a find. I mean, a guy that was on
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins when we were down there for the
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: joint practices, and then all of a sudden he becomes available.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: He goes to the practice squad. He earns his way
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  Speaker 3: up to the active roster. And those two guys in
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: the middle are two of the big reasons why they're
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: so good in run defense. And obviously some of the
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: other people that are involved, especially two defensive ends that
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: play the run extremely well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But, man, you've got to start with those two guys
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: in the middle right now.
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  Speaker 2: Always got to be strong up the middle, whether it's baseball, football,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. And, again, I'm right with
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Jeff on Dickerson. I love the guy, both of those guys.
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  Speaker 2: Dickerson the other day before the joint practice, Sees a–
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: reacts to a wide receiver screen, tips the ball, catches
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  Speaker 2: it and scores. I mean, it was one of the
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: great plays of camp. But you talk about a tough gentleman.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the reason this defense is good, it starts
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: with that heart right there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so like, for example, if the Jaguars defense is,
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  Speaker 3: you know, second and two or three, right? Dickerson's going
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: to be your guy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: If it's second and seven plus, in comes 91. 91.
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  Speaker 3: Here comes Armstead.
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  Speaker 1: We've got to talk about him because of the camp
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  Speaker 1: he had. Go ahead, Duff.
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  Speaker 2: No, but so Coach Campanile's got that tools at those
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: players at his fingertips as far as that's concerned. Jeff's
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: absolutely right. To have a guy like Armstead who's got
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: the length and the ability to affect the quarterback but
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: also have the run stoppers like Hamilton and Dickerson is tremendous.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: And don't forget, I think, Ruka Roro, see how he
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: comes on. He can affect the quarterback. He had a
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: good game last week. Not a good game. Let me
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: correct myself. He had a solid game, but his joint
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  Speaker 2: practice I thought was really good. Showed up.
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  Speaker 1: The Buccaneers have a good running game. Liam Cohen built
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: it before he came over here. I spent more time
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: over on the offensive field this time, but I did
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: see the Jaguars' run defense. It looked like they played.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: as good as they are. I mean, they played to
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the standard, if you want to use that coaching analogy, right?
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, they dominated over on our side of
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the field, and I was closest to that. I'm going
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to tell you up front, Josh Heinz-Allen, best practice day
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I saw all camp. He was dominant. If he plays
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: like this this season, whoo-wee, we're going to love that. But,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, our guys in terms of the run defense, pursuit,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I told Coach Campanile afterwards, I said, boy, you had
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: them hunting today. Their effort to get the ball off
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  Speaker 2: of people. Everybody was taking shots, punches, rips to get
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the ball off of people.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Great run defense, shots on the ball, and then takeaways.
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  Speaker 2: We had five passes broken up, I think. We had
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  Speaker 2: two interceptions. We had a fumble recovery. Coach Cohen had
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: kind of said, we need to get around the ball.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: We need to get the ball back. Well, buddy, the
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  Speaker 2: message was heard by the defense in that first joint
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  Speaker 2: practice against Tampa on Tuesday. Well done.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was one play in particular that really stood
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  Speaker 3: out as far as run defense. You know, here we
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: are talking about Matt Dickerson and Devon Hamilton. Yeah. But
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: it's a defensive mindset. You know, it's just team defense.
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  Speaker 3: And it was a play that the Bucs– and so
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: if you're a Jaguars defender, okay, the Bucs crack on
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Josh Hines-Allen at right end. And when they crack, you've
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: got to have a replacement guy, okay?
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: That replacement guy was Monteric Brown. And the ball bounces out,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Josh gets cracked on, and that's it right there. That's
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: the play that we're looking at right now. And Monteric
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Brown comes up and smashes him. Smashes him. And Josh
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Heinz Allen actually fights through the crack block as well
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: to make that play. I mean, it was just a
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  Speaker 3: thing of beauty, and I think that that play right
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: there illustrates what team-run defense is. can do for you.
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  Speaker 3: That play was a perfect illustration.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it was exceptional. I mean, they're going to use
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: that clip a bunch in teaching moments as far as
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  Speaker 2: that's concerned. You've got to have edge on your defense.
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  Speaker 2: And to get it by the corner on a crack
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  Speaker 2: block and then your defensive end, well done.
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  Speaker 1: And a corner who's about 190 at the outset, right?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: And yet he has no hesitation whatsoever. about coming and
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  Speaker 1: throwing his body into the run. That's impressive to see.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you love as a defensive coordinator. If you've
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: got defensive backs, and we've got them, corners, safeties are
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: going to get dirty. Get physical, shoot, bring it on, baby.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Two of the guys we've got to talk about, because
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: as I'm getting ready for the television broadcast, like you're
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: getting ready for radio, just asking coaches today, who stood
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: out to you? I mean, who had a good camp?
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Everybody said 91 first, Eric Armstead.
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  Speaker 3: He's been unblockable. I mean, and they've done a really
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: good job. Look, he's not a young man anymore. And
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: so they've done a really good job of monitoring his
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: reps throughout training camp. But he is so long, and
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: you can tell that he's healthy. Last year, he had
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: the issue with the back a little bit. I think
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: this camp was working through. And then late last year,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: he had the hand. You can tell that he's completely
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: healthy now. And I don't think he's been blocked yet.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I really don't.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: And we're not seeing him– even at his best yet
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: because he's not finishing a lot and intentionally not finishing
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: a lot because you don't want to get around the
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: opposing quarterback and hurt him. And so he's pulling off
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: a lot as he gets to the top of that rush,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: but he's killing people.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: It's been impressive to see. We've seen him do it
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: against the Jaguars, but to see him do it against
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: the Buccaneers and just walk guys back.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean, again, a real force right now. When
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: that happens in the games right now, especially in passing downs,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Here's the other guy. And I've mentioned him before. His
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: energy level is just impressive to watch. And that's number six,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Antonio Johnson. And if his name wasn't first, it was
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: second when I was asking coaches today.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to tell you up front, again, he's
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: had a tremendous camp. Interception in that particular package we're
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: talking about, but tackles for loss. And what a lot
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: of people don't see, he's coming off either inside or
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: outside in pressures right now. And he brings it. And
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: he's got some some shake at the end of the
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: top of the rush, if you will. So I think
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: what he's bringing to the defense, the versatility and the flex,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: where he can play the deep ball, where he can
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: come in and play like a linebacker in the dime package,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: but also cover tight ends well. And then pressure like that, whew,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: great value.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the size that he has, and he looks kind
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: of like a linebacker.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, he does.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, they list him at 6'2, 200,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: you know, in that range. He's much bigger than that.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: I think I agree. I think he might be a
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: little bit bigger than that as far as the weight goes.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: He might be 6'2.5, 6'3. He's got length too. Tremendous length.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I think the versatility that he gives you as a player,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: and I think Duff can speak more to this than
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: I can, but the versatility I think is key. I
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: put him right up there, and I probably said this before,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say it again. I put him right
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: up there with Parker Washington, as far as the importance
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: of getting signed for this football team.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: He's that important of a player for this football team.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Start saying the rosary because I'm– I got mine in
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: my bag. No, but I'm right with you on that now.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: What he brings right now to that defense, and here's
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: what I like even more, too, is his attitude. He's
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: bringing it.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: He's confident right now. Oh, yeah, he is.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: You can see it. You watch him. And pre-snap, his
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: ability to disguise, his ability to communicate right now. You know,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: volume shows confidence when you communicate. He's doing it like
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: an opera director, if you will. I mean, orchestrator, if
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: you will. Really doing a good job.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: I will say, too, that I think the coaching that
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: he's gotten has obviously made a huge difference. I was
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: going to say the same thing. And because, you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: you go back to– that was 24– And it wasn't
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: a good year for him. And you get a new
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: coaching staff. And what I believe, I always said this,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: coaching matters. And I thought he got great coaching last year.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: They also made him earn his way last year. And coaching,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I think, is also putting the players in the position
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: that they can utilize their skill set and their strength
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: to the best of their ability. I think they did
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: a tremendous job of that. But I'm also going to
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: give some credit to Eric Murray. Because I believe that,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: and I've been a big fan of this in my
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: entire career, is that when you have a veteran presence
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: and it's a strong, positive presence, because you can't just
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: throw an old guy in a room and expect it
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: to be good. It's got to be a guy that
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: has leadership qualities and who, when he speaks, it's listened to.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: And I think Eric Murray is a very quiet person.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: As you know, you've talked to him before. But when
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: he speaks, it's like, what was that old commercial, EF Hutton?
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: And everybody would shut up.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: And I think Eric Murray last year, I think, had
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: a tremendous impact on Antonio Johnson's performance. And I think,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, taught him to be a pro.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: A year ago at this time, we were talking about
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Antonio Johnson as a special teamer. And now we're talking
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: about a guy who's going to get a special contract.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: at some point in time, and hopefully the Jaguars are
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the team that gets that done. All right, we've reached
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour. Let's take a quick break.
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  Speaker 1: Fast delivery. They get it to you. Thoughts on Trevor, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: But then the backup. Carter Bradley has been the guy
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: because he was here last year. But then the kid
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: from Tennessee, the undrafted Joey Aguilar, has had a tremendous preseason.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow night might be the differentiating factor between who's the
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: third quarterback.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I think we're going to see those two guys a lot.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Both Carter and Aguilar. Aguilar this past game, opened my eyes.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, and there was one play in particular, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: it wasn't even a completion that impressed me. So he's
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: in the pocket, and then he gets pressure, and then
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: he kind of maneuvers the pocket with never dropping his
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: eyes to the rush, and then finds a guy down
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: the field, makes the throw, and if I remember correctly,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: it was a good throw. The receiver just didn't do
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: a very good job. Ends up incomplete. But it was
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: just the handling of the position itself impressed me. And
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: how many incompletions has he had in preseason?
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: That was it.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, wow.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: And he threw that 43-yard ball to Trevor Pena in
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: New Orleans, and he just put it on a dime.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: No, you know, you saw him in the OTAs and
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the rookie minicamp, and you could see escapability. You could
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: see command. I mean, he was running the show. He
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: demonstrated that against Carolina in the game in terms of
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: checking off, changing the plays, great poise, great confidence. Nine
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: for ten in that game for 130 yards, and he
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: can extend plays. He can move. A guy that's 6'3, 225.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I'm real impressed with him so far.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Now, Carter Bradley has an absolute cannon for an arm.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: We've seen him since he was a kid, since he
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: played at Providence. A cannon for an arm, and he
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: was here last year. How does that factor into the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: decision process if you're Liam Cohen and Grant Udinski? Do
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: you go with the one that you know, or because
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: it's the third quarterback, do you say, this kid has
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: really performed and he's a big kid with a great arm?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I think it's interesting and everybody's taste is a little
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: bit different, but the reality is the ultimate grade is
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: the performance in the games. And so I think this
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: game is going to go a long way towards determining
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: who is going to end up kind of having that role,
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: and that role is probably going to be a practice
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: squad quarterback.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: And I think the coaches are going to look at who,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: as they evaluate, who has the biggest upside as time
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: goes on, who can ascend the most. I think I
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: heard last year during this season that Carter did a
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: nice job, Carter Bradley running the look team against the defense.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Get ready for Buffalo.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: For a lot of teams. I kind of think that
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Aguilar could be a doggone good look team quarterback in
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: terms of showing our defense, both guys that can move,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: guys that can throw. I think we're going to have
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: an interesting choice to make.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: He came from Tennessee, which ran a very complicated passing system,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: which is why I would suppose he processes information quickly
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. No stumble, no struggle for him.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Brian, I'm telling you, that's a fact. He goes from
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: UCLA to Tennessee. and runs an offense which is the
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: most up-tempo, ran more snaps, plays in a game than
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: anybody in the country in one year, in one season.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, moved right into it. And you could see
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: snippets of that when you watch him, especially in the
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: OTAs when I saw him in the rookie minicamp. Again,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: interesting situation here.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: He's fun to watch and... he's kind of got a
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: favorite wide receiver. Oh, boy.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I was going there. What do you think of Parker
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Washington light? He played at Penn State, Trevor Pena, and
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: he's almost the same size. Parker Washington has unique characteristics.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, he is an explosive guy, and I don't
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: want to make the comparison apples to apples, but he
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: kind of plays like him.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Well, first let me just make a comment about Parker
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Washington because watching him in the joint practices, I don't
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: think there's anybody that gets better separation than he does.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: His quickness, the in and out of the breaks, there's
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: no wonder why a quarterback finds a comfort level with
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Parker Washington because he is so good at creating the
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: windows and the separation. Pena's not Parker Washington, but he's
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: a crafty guy that the ball's finding its way to him.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: And when quarterbacks start throwing one guy the ball in particular–
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: then you know that there's a level of trust there.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: And I think that that's an important observation there. Now,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: where is he going to fit? You know, as far
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: as at the end of the day, when it comes
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: down to Sunday, which is the roster day to be determined,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: and I don't think he's going to make it, but
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I think practice squad is where his destiny is. And
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to be at some point a
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: guy that's going to be a factor with this group.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Well, some other teams may be after him too now
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: because he's put a lot on tape that's pretty doggone good.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: He drops in the first game against– no, it was
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: the second game, I guess. No, it was the New
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Orleans game. He drops a bullet that Carter threw in
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: the end zone, comes back and has a big catch
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: from Joe.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: This is a difference maker.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Difference maker. So he's got big play ability. In other words,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: when I say big play, he made the big play
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: when we needed it the most. And that's what you're
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: looking for. This guy's got it. And the revealing evaluation
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: is just what you said. When a quarterback goes to
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: this guy, they've got that kind of trust. That says volumes.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on Trevor before we
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: take our next break, but first, I just looked down
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: at the X feed in front of me, and the
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Jaguars tweeted out a jersey giveaway, right? And they've got
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: the rivalry, the bold city, the jersey that just came
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: out with the wonderful script. And you think, well, they
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: choose 16, right? The quarterback, for sure. Or Josh Hines-Allen, right?
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: The big star. It's Parker Washington. It's a signed jersey
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: by Parker Washington, number 11, that just speaks volumes about
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: a former sixth round pick and what he's become the
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: fan favorite that he has become the training camp that
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: he has had that that that his jersey is the
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: one they're giving away I think it's freaking awesome.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: No I think it's fantastic I mean he's one of
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: those guys that you know you're pillars a pillar of
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: a franchise yeah he's one of those guys you want
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: to keep around for the long term and At some point,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: you hope to find a little common ground with him
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: and his agent and the team, and you get it done.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: But you couldn't ask for a better person with a
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: better work ethic than Parker Washington. He's awesome.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: All right, so from Trevor Pena in Parker, Washington, to
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence before we break, your thoughts on his camp overall,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: his readiness for the season, understanding of what year two
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: means to him.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's good, man. I'm jacked about it
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: right now. In fact, I rarely look at him anymore,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: you know, because I feel so confident in the development
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I've seen really since the second half of last season,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: carried over into the OTAs and in training camp too.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's doing everything that I think he could
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: and can do, and yet I still think he's getting better.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's ascending right now. So I really like
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: what I see from him. I see confidence. I see decisiveness.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I see the ability to use his legs when he
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: needs to much more. He's comfortable with doing that. He's
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: got command of... I watch him working through his progressions,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: and he's playing against a doggone good defense. They're doing
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: a good job of trying to muddy him up a
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: little bit pre-snap with disguise and that type of thing. And, shoot,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: he's moving at a good clip right now. I think
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: the coaches are happy. I certainly am, and I look
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: forward to seeing a big year from him.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I think he's more– you remember last year when there
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: was this kind of– it was almost stale, and you
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: had the moment, you know, the head coach is– beating
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: his chest saying, you know, put him here. And then
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: after that, the next week that Liam comes out and
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: talks about telling Trevor just to rip it. And you
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: almost get the impression that training camp, he's already ripping it.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: You know, he's anticipating throws that last year at this stage,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: he wasn't even considering. And so that's, I think that's
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: a real positive. And it's also, really advantageous from a
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: game planning standpoint because i think the playbook expands the
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: more experience that he has.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: In it yeah and watching the practices they're opening up
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: the playbook i like that too i what i've seen
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: you know the other thing that's important is after big
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: place i see him running down the field to congratulate
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: his teammate the offensive lines running down the field to
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: pick up the receiver the running back great teams do
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: that right now that's not That's not lip service. That's actions,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: and I see it in this group.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Listen, I like to watch the mental side of the game,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: how guys process information, and then how they rebound when
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: things aren't going their way. If he had a bad throw,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: the very next drive, he was on. If he had
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: a bad day, the very next day was one of
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: his best days. I thought Trevor, he kind of grinded
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: through camp at one point when things weren't going well. Man,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: he turned it around pretty quickly. I don't know whether
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: that's resilience or how you would term it, but there's
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: a step for him, and I think he's taken it.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I see maturity.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: That's probably the best way to describe it.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I see maturity right now. He takes ownership when it's
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: not good. And when he is good, he's spreading the
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: wealth to other guys. I mean, that's what you want
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: as your leader and as your quarterback. I see maturity
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: right now, and that's maturity and confidence. Gaining like it is,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: good results.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: I think last year, first of all, you didn't have
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Jacoby last year in training camp, so there was nothing
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: there with that. And Parker, that was... something that was building.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: And then Brian was off last year. Good point. You
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: just really see the chemistry with everybody that's there. Parker,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: I think, is getting a little bit more than others.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: just because he's so good at getting open. But I mean,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: if you just sit there and you look at the
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: weapons that Trevor's going to have this year, and he's
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: got a rapport with all of these guys now. And
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: so it's going to be fun to watch just from
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: what kind of recipe or formula is the head coach
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: going to dial up week in and week out and
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: from week to week? Because There's a lot of weapons, okay?
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: So you've got a lot of weapons, and then you've
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: also got a quarterback who last year, oh, by the way,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: was an MVP candidate. 17 days.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: You have to wait 17 days until the Jaguars play
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns here at Everbank Stadium.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: It's like going to a restaurant. It's like your favorite restaurant, right?
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I know yours.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: And they're known for making specials, but they don't tell
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: you what the specials are until you actually get there.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? So I can't wait. For
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: the specials this year, which are the game plans that
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Liam's going to dial up with all of the weapons
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: that they have with this offense, with the foundation being
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: we're going to run football.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: You know, Lockie has a favorite restaurant. And when he
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: walks in the door, his favorites are the specials of
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: the evening. They know you're coming, buddy. They understand. We're
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: going to sell a lot tonight.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: I trust his opinion, so I need to know where
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: that restaurant is.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: It's not far from where you live either. Let's take
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, we'll look at some
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: players to watch that we've been watching, presented by Mr.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Chubby's Wings. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. One more segment,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: then Jags HQ with Tony Buscelli and James Gladstone here
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: on 1010XL and 92.5, plus the Jaguars YouTube channel. One
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: final segment of Jaguars happy hour here on a Thursday evening.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: And we remind you that tomorrow night, the Jaguars will
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: host the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 737 for the kick right
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: here on 10, 10 XL and 92.5. And that game
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: is presented by Wolfson children's hospital, the official children's hospital
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. So I asked Loggie yesterday for
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: a couple of players that we could talk about guys
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: that he is excited about. Um, So it's brought to
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: you by Mr. Chubby's Wings. Players to watch. Mr. Chubby's Wings.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Before the game, after the game, and during the game.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I'd like to have the problem of having.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Those chubby wings. They got a lot of TVs, too.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: It's on your way home, isn't it? So this reading
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: should say, before the game, after the game, and on
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Loggie's way home.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: And the wings are really good at halftime. Thank you, Mr. Chubby's.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I asked him yesterday. Who should we ask for?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Some video, right? Our crack production team. Who should I
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: give them a heads up on? First name, Josh Hines-Allen.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: And Duff had alluded to it earlier in that he's had,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: I think, an excellent preseason. He's been dominant against the Bucs.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: He moved around quite a bit because they're moving Josh
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: and Trayvon a little bit. And Tristan Wurst was not
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: practicing fully. So Josh got a backup who was actually
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: an international player and Josh beat up on him a
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: little bit. But Josh beat up on everybody. And whether
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: he was at Getty Key, the right tackle, whether he
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: was going against a guard, 72, he also tossed around
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: like he was just nobody's business. Josh was dominant. And
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: I think from watching Josh get 47 reps in the
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: joint practice for the Saints to the job that he
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: did against the Carolina Panthers to the job that he
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: did against the Bucks, the joint, which was just absolute dominance,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: probably the best player on the field that day. He's
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: ready to go. Ready to go. Can't wait to watch
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: his season.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they couldn't block him. I mean, I'm not so
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: sure I've ever seen a more dominant practice. I mean,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: and I wasn't zeroing in on him, but all of
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: a sudden he was there. I mean, you felt the guy.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I was screaming to the good Lord. I mean,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: it was really special.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: You know what impressed me, though, the most? Is that, like, one-on-ones,
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: for example. Okay? You know, usually you take one-on-one here
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: and there and there. Josh was up there wanting to do,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: and I think he ended up taking about eight to
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: ten reps of one-on-ones alone. Because he wanted the reps.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, you could tell that he is intentional, that
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: he's getting himself ready, conditioned to go when it comes
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: to game one.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Jeff, you're dead on. I was watching it, too. He
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: was cutting in line. He was not supposed to be up,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: and he shimmied them out of there. I mean, I'm
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: dead on that. I mean, he looked at that and said,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get quality work against this opponent, this
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: quality opponent, and I thought it was exceptional.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: It reminds me of something you've always said about him.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: It's really important to him.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: It is. It means something to him. And it was
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of fun to watch. And I felt bad
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: for the poor guy. Rubelt? Rubelt.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: He played at UCF, but he's from Oder, Germany. And
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the high school football program is
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: all that good in Oder, Germany.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Well, he's 6'10, 313 pounds. They know how to eat
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: over there, though. And B.J. Green threw him one time,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: and it was just, you just felt bad for the guy.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: You know, because the backup was injured, too, for the Bucs,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: for Tristan. Tristan Wurst working his way back from a hamstring.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: The backup to Tristan Wurst was not practicing, and then
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: this guy was out there, and you just kind of
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: felt for the guy.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: The next name on Loggie's list, Nate Borkature, who you
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: just said, whoo.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: He's going to be good. He had an excellent practice,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: and the Jaguars ran multiple tight end sets. And he
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: was a dominant blocker. And the Jaguars ran the ball
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: really well. And one of the reasons why they ran
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: it really well was Porkature. His performance was fantastic. I
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: think it was his best outing yet. And we haven't
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: even really seen him emerge as a receiver, which we've
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: seen glimpses. But his hands are extremely good. But his
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: blocking in this past joint practice was unreal.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Isn't it great when you can say that Josh Hines, Allen,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Nate Berkutcher had their best practices at training camp in
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: a joint practice against a good team like Tampa? I mean,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: that's what you want. And praise God it happened.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: And that's what you want.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what you want.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Ascending play as you're working towards the season.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: It's a good reminder that draft day, people were not
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: excited about the selection of Nate Berkutcher, but the Jaguars
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: were because they saw these traits on film. They watched
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: this guy play. They interviewed him. They worked him out. Duff,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Tony Buscelli said to me in June when I asked
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: him about him, I watched the entire Notre Dame game.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: They didn't target him once until there was just 10
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: seconds left. At 59-50, they threw it to him in
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: the end zone, and Texas A & M walked out
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: of South Bend with a huge win.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when the game's on the line, they had that
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: kind of trust in that player. And I have that
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: kind of trust in what Tony and James Gladstone and
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Liam Comer are doing right now. They know this football team.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: They know what they need. They're relentless in player acquisition.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: A lot of good things right now going on.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Up next on the loggy list, as I'm taken to
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: calling it, Josh Cameron. Young man from Baylor who is
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: going to be a key fixture on special teams. However,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: sounds like they're going to find a role for him
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: on the offense, too, when he's making plays like this.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: Well, he had the opportunity because... Brian Thomas Jr. goes down,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: and then he's the next guy up. Also, you've got
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers that's out. His hand strength is exceptional, and
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: what I love about Josh Cameron is his work ethic
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: and his professionalism I think really shines, and it matters
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: to him, and that's kind of how he plays the game.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: So I can't wait to see him on game day.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: I think his role is going to be more defined
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: as you get to the regular season. Will he be
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: a wide receiver like that? I don't know about that.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: There's probably going to be a lot of special teams.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: But the way he's been playing, he might end up
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: finding a role as a wide receiver as well.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: No question about it. And he's not afraid to get
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: in there and block too, which is an important component
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: right now. And really, when you look at the opportunities
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: that both those two rookies have gotten, they were featured
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: in the first quarter of the game last week against Carolina.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: And then because of injury and whatever, they're featured in
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: the two-minute here against these guys. I mean, they had
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: tremendous opportunities. They've earned them, and they're getting them, though. So,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think, again, what they're bringing to the
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: table is going to be exciting.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Talk about him on special teams in the two minutes
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: that we have left. Josh Cameron and what you think
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: he's capable of as a special team. You watched that
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: position so acutely.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: I talked with both Heath and Luke, the special teams coaches,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: because they obviously know a lot more about it than
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: I do. But my eyes, I was saying, hey, look,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: it looks like he can be something special. You got
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: him as a personal protector. And Luke told me, he
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: said that, look, he goes, we thought that he was
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: really good and had a good, solid football IQ. That
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: was kind of the notes on him. He goes, he
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: doesn't have good football IQ. He has exceptional football IQ.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: And so when you have a player that you just
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: that you think is good but then you realize it's
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: even better than that uh I think he's going to
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: be a heck of a football player on special teams
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: and I think eventually he's going to be a wide
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: receiver that's going to have a pretty significant role and
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: the thing I love about him though is he's got
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: size um And I can't wait to watch him when
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: he sticks his head in there to block a few
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: guys digging guys out of the box.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: You've got 30 seconds.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: And that evaluation is called a hallelujah. Because I'm telling
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: you right now, when you commit to a rookie as
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: a personal protector right now, the attributes that he's demonstrated,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: that is huge.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: You trust him.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: You trust him. And every day, this guy shows up
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: making plays. And he's out there before and out there after.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: He's got the attitude you want. He's got the skill
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: set you want and everything.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: It's an old linebacker coach.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Thank God he's in teal.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: It's an old linebacker coach talking about a wide receiver
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: who's built like a linebacker. I can't even talk. That's
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: how excited I am about you. Well, it's good that
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: you're leaving, so thanks so much.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: It is good, yeah.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: It works out for us.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: It's okay.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Marked up for everybody.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Tony Buscelli's in the studio. Jags HQ is set to begin.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: See you, Duff.