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Patriots Unfiltered 2/26: Combine News, Free Agency Analysis, Team/League Updates · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: All right, Welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 3: at Jillette Stadium, and we've got our you know, emergency
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  Speaker 3: crew here. Matisa is here, Alex is here, Not that
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  Speaker 3: it's an emergency when Alex is here, but she's here
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  Speaker 3: because Paul's out, he's at a funeral. Nobody we know,
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  Speaker 3: UH and Deuce and Evan are in indye. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: Deuce will be calling in at about one ten, so
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  Speaker 3: we'll talk to him live, but we'll hold on down
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  Speaker 3: the fort today. We've got a lot to talk about,
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  Speaker 3: a lot going on in Indy. Mike Vrabel talked extensively yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: He talked with the media, He talked with UH, Deuce
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  Speaker 3: and UH Evan, and then he talked with the media
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  Speaker 3: at like a little side thing at a table, So
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  Speaker 3: he was all over the place yesterday. Had some interesting
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  Speaker 3: things to talk about. I think, you know, we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: antaly that as we as we do. We'll take your emails,
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  Speaker 3: we'll take your calls at a five to five pats
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  Speaker 3: five hundred. We'll talk about free agents, we'll talk about
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  Speaker 3: draft picks. So we got a lot to go, a
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  Speaker 3: lot to do. So what's on your mind? I know,
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  Speaker 3: I know around here. Of course, we had that blizzard.
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  Speaker 3: We're still shoveling out from that. It's been a real mess,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, we made it. We made it somewhat. Yeah, No,
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  Speaker 3: it was it was bad. I was down the cape.
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  Speaker 3: We got three feet sustain wins. Thank god I didn't
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  Speaker 3: lose my electricity because everybody else did. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: My house is three inned and thirty years old. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know how we didn't lose it electricity, but we
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  Speaker 3: made it through.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like it's been NonStop. We the blizzard
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  Speaker 1: before the super Bowl, we go to the super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: we get back combine blizzard.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yes, no, I knew. I knew it was gonna
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  Speaker 3: snow that. I knew we were in for it this year.
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  Speaker 3: I just had a feeling and thank god I got
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  Speaker 3: my arrand snowblower. By the way, it's it's you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's like eight years old and it's it's operating like
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  Speaker 3: a champ. So shout out to Aaron's for putting out
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  Speaker 3: a good product. I'm once, I told these guys, once
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  Speaker 3: the winter's over, I am sending it in for a
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  Speaker 3: full massage, a little love, give that thing some love.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, exactly, I am. I am putting it on
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  Speaker 3: vacation once the winter is over, because it has earned it.
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  Speaker 3: It has earned it.
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  Speaker 6: So, like the big debate is is this as bad
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  Speaker 6: as the blizzards seventy eight?
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  Speaker 2: Paul said it wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: But it was not in turn, I think record wise
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  Speaker 3: it was, but I think as in terms of impact
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  Speaker 3: that came on so suddenly. I mean cars were literally
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  Speaker 3: on one.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty eight for weeks, strand and buried with the text
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  Speaker 1: better now like you can get the flows down of that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Providence got hit for two days pretty bad, but like
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  Speaker 1: back then you don't know what streets are.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was I remember, I remember that because
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  Speaker 3: I lived through it. Yeah, that was really bad. That
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  Speaker 3: was like really life threatening that storm. Even though maybe
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  Speaker 3: some of the accumulation wasn't as bad, it was just
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  Speaker 3: the way it came down so suddenly. And like you said,
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  Speaker 3: the plowing wasn't as good. Back then, you didn't get
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  Speaker 3: as much advanced notice. People lost electricity for a lot longer.
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  Speaker 3: I remember we lost it for a week. So seventy
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  Speaker 3: eight was worse in terms of impact. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: this sets some records for accumulation.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, Providence has more snow than Anchorage, Alaska. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's something.
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  Speaker 8: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel bad for you guys out here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: we got nothing in Western mass for once.
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  Speaker 2: After all year.
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  Speaker 6: The most it feels like the most consistent winter snowfall
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  Speaker 6: we've had for what going back like over a month now,
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  Speaker 6: since I don't know of my life, at least since
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  Speaker 6: twenty fifteen. I remember when twenty fifteen Boston just kept
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  Speaker 6: making like a snow mountain.
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  Speaker 1: It was every week and I was just showing it,
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  Speaker 1: and it did the snow.
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  Speaker 2: Mountain and seaport didn't melt till like June or.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely remember that that was wild. Yeah, and this isn't
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  Speaker 3: going to melt for a while too, because I mean
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  Speaker 3: down the cape it might get to like forty five
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday, but it's not We're not going to really
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  Speaker 3: have it warm enough long enough to get rid of this,
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  Speaker 3: and we'll probably have more snow before it's over.
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  Speaker 6: So in Sandwich, did you see any parts of like
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  Speaker 6: the Bay and like the waves frozen? Because I saw
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  Speaker 6: some pretty insane videos that I didn't know it were possible,
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  Speaker 6: like defied physics.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I I I wanted to go down there,
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  Speaker 3: but with all the roads and unplowed. I haven't ventured
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  Speaker 3: that far, but it must have because the wind was coming.
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  Speaker 3: If you were facing northeast, you were getting battered. You know,
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  Speaker 3: like like one side of my car was just like
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  Speaker 3: yeah covered.
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  Speaker 1: Yeh.
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  Speaker 3: It was crazy.
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  Speaker 2: So it came up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy.
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  Speaker 2: So Eric, hopefully it's over.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's our that's our trials and tribulations.
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  Speaker 2: Some good ski.
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  Speaker 1: N I did you finally?
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  Speaker 2: Have you been to work since the Super Bowl? But
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  Speaker 2: you've just been.
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  Speaker 1: Snowboarding the stages of grief, just just snowboarding, trying to
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  Speaker 1: try to get out while I can. So it's been nice. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right.
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  Speaker 3: So yesterday Mike Rabel talked for a long time and
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  Speaker 3: with a lot of people, said a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Most of it was, you know, fairly benign. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Alex we were talking earlier. I thought he
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  Speaker 3: had some interesting things to say. And when you couple
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  Speaker 3: it with what Elliott Wolf had to say earlier in
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  Speaker 3: the in the week, you know, I think in their
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  Speaker 3: mind they want to go spend some money, get some
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  Speaker 3: free agents. Obviously draft well, but I like the analogy
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  Speaker 3: that Rabel had with Neman Marcus and north.
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  Speaker 2: Strom's spoke to my soul friend.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if I wanted, I just buy it.
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  Speaker 6: You know that, and every girl with a retail edision.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So like, is that kind of a subtle mess
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  Speaker 3: hint to Robert and Jonathan Kraft, like, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: want to we want to spend some money this offseason.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, you know.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's like I think they do a really
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  Speaker 6: good job of understanding. I don't know, like after last year,
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  Speaker 6: I think the front office in Rabel, the way they
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  Speaker 6: work together, like they've already earned my trust.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's a little too quick, but I kind of.
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  Speaker 6: Took it as Rabel saying, look like, if there's something
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  Speaker 6: that I want and I see it when I'm perusing
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  Speaker 6: the store, like we're gonna get it, We're gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Spend money on it. But you don't always necessarily have
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  Speaker 2: a great shopping day, right.
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  Speaker 3: Like, Well, the only difference is when you got a
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  Speaker 3: Nordstrom and you want something, there's more than one of them.
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  Speaker 3: So here, if you want a player, there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of other teams competing for that one thing. So it's
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  Speaker 3: a little bit different than just picking something off the
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  Speaker 3: shelf and Nordstroms. So yeah, So so that kind of
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  Speaker 3: led into a discussion about Diggs because you know the
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  Speaker 3: big contract. I think, well, there's a few big contracts
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  Speaker 3: that they have to look at, but you know one
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  Speaker 3: of them is Gonzales and they talked about that as well.
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  Speaker 3: But then there's Digs and he's up for some big
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  Speaker 3: money this next season. I think it's like twenty something
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  Speaker 3: odd a million guaranteed. Yeah, so I think they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: probably want to rework that if they want to keep them.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like they have the leverage too with it.
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  Speaker 3: They do it, but like a guy like him, are
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  Speaker 3: you gonna sit for that? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's also does he want to rework out? Like I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what the guaranteed money is and stuff. But
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  Speaker 1: he's got a look at himself too. So I mean
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  Speaker 1: they liked him. I think he liked it here. It
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  Speaker 1: was a good match. He was a great leader, a
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  Speaker 1: great teammate. Unexpected too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but now you look at Gonzales and you'd like
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  Speaker 3: to extend him now because the longer you wait, the
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  Speaker 3: higher that price is going to go. His agent is
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  Speaker 3: the same as.
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  Speaker 1: Drake May's, I hear, I'll start thinking about him too.
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  Speaker 3: Right, So that's where Elliott Wolf and the Crafts and
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  Speaker 3: and vrabel earned their money, because you know, you got
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  Speaker 3: to figure this all out. It's not just x's and
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  Speaker 3: o's in football.
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  Speaker 1: And then, yeah, you hate like talking about players ageent
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  Speaker 1: like Diggs, wh he's gonna be thirty two, thirty three,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a lot of money for a thirty three
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  Speaker 1: year old.
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  Speaker 6: So I wonder if it's hard to imagine with like
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  Speaker 6: what you hear about his personality, but maybe he does
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  Speaker 6: have some loyalty hear, because we brought him in when
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  Speaker 6: he was kind of like a broken commodity, stood by him.
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  Speaker 6: Now he has all this stuff off the field going on,
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  Speaker 6: and we're still d like standing by him and supporting him.
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  Speaker 6: And just it seemed like he grew a lot in
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  Speaker 6: this locker room. It seemed like he really liked to
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  Speaker 6: be here. It seemed like he valued the camaraderie. So
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  Speaker 6: maybe he does. He is willing to.
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  Speaker 2: Like restructure he so much.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I wish that was so hard to.
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  Speaker 6: Put myself in his situation because I don't know, it's
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  Speaker 6: just he already has unimaginable money and so much going
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  Speaker 6: on off the field too, with money and income, and
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  Speaker 6: it's just like he's never going to be poor.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, I know, but guys like him that switch
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  Speaker 3: flips like that, I agree with everything you.
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  Speaker 1: Said, like you're not wrong.
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  Speaker 3: He seems to love it here blah competitive but well maybe,
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  Speaker 3: but the moment you tell him we're not going to
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  Speaker 3: pay you that if you want to stay, A lot
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  Speaker 3: of these guys that switch flips and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: now you're my enemy. Now, oh, now you don't respect me.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, the perfect example we had it here
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  Speaker 3: before Randy Moss. Randy Moss was a broken commodity. They
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  Speaker 3: were literally calling him a dog in Oakland. They called
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  Speaker 3: him a dog in print, and we traded him on
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  Speaker 3: the second day of the draft for a fourth round pick.
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  Speaker 3: So can you imagine that, getting Randy Moss for a
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  Speaker 3: fourth round pick because no one else, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: he came in here and from the get go he
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  Speaker 3: was great. And then two years later he's complaining, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and he wanted his money. And I don't blame them.
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  Speaker 3: These guys, they have a limited shelf life. You know,
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  Speaker 3: if you play to thirty, you're lucky. If you played
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  Speaker 3: a thirty three. It's amazing as a wide receiver, and
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  Speaker 3: they know it, and their agent knows it, and so
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  Speaker 3: why should they take a dime less than what they
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  Speaker 3: think there they should get.
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  Speaker 1: You talk about Randy and then we traded him was
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  Speaker 1: forty nine ers, right, Yeah, I mean that was the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the end, right, So it was the right choices.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's a kind of an unspoken well,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of a spoken rule with a lot of gms,
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  Speaker 3: is you want to be a year too early than
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  Speaker 3: a year too late with these.
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  Speaker 2: Players, always the belcheck way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's it's tough. It's tough when you have
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  Speaker 3: to have that sit down with a player and say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: we love you, we want you to stay, but we're
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  Speaker 3: not going to pay you what you thought you were
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  Speaker 3: going to get. So that's going to be a difficult
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  Speaker 3: if that's their strategy. I don't know, we don't know
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  Speaker 3: that's a strategy. No one said. Rabel didn't say that,
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  Speaker 3: Wolf didn't say that. But they said they have to.
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  Speaker 3: You know, look at that.
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  Speaker 6: Well, there's so much out of their control of like
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  Speaker 6: the football side of things. Still, you know, for him,
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  Speaker 6: I guess I'm Barmore. It's really interesting to think that,
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  Speaker 6: like there is a chance that both of those guys
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  Speaker 6: maybe aren't on the team next year because of stuff
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  Speaker 6: totally out of the football operations control.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know if it happened before or
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  Speaker 3: after Tuesday show, but of course Antonio Gibson has been released, yep,
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  Speaker 3: so he's out there. You know, sometimes you do that
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  Speaker 3: with a free agent, with a guy, you release him
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  Speaker 3: early just to give him a little head start on
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  Speaker 3: the free agent market. You know. I've got the the dates,
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  Speaker 3: so that legal tampering period that opens on Monday, March ninth,
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  Speaker 3: so they can tamper and kind of start laying the
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  Speaker 3: groundwork for contracts on Monday March ninth, But the official
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  Speaker 3: free agency opens March eleventh at four pm.
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  Speaker 2: And that's also the new league year, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that's four pm Wednesday, March eleventh when
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  Speaker 3: it officially opens up and you can actually ratify these
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  Speaker 3: deals that you started to talk about on the ninth. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so we'll see what happens. You know, are the Patriots
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  Speaker 3: going to be big spenders, you know, day one people,
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  Speaker 3: or are they gonna wait because I don't you know,
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  Speaker 3: Diggs wasn't a Day one guy.
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  Speaker 8: He was like.
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  Speaker 3: He was like he was out there. So it's not
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  Speaker 3: to say that you can't get good players, uh you
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  Speaker 3: know later on in free agency, but you know, the
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  Speaker 3: the bigger names are gonna go early.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's funny and not that the Patriots are going
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  Speaker 1: to do this, but the noise arout Malik Willis is
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  Speaker 1: I find that a bit interesting. He's gonna be the
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  Speaker 1: hot commodity free agent this year, so I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see, you know, and you know, I've got
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  Speaker 3: rankings here. This is come nfl Het, George Pickens, Jalen Phillips, Tyler,
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  Speaker 3: Linda Baum, the Center, Alec Pierce that we've talked about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and then of course Trey Hendrickson. I like
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  Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd.
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  Speaker 1: I talked about him.
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  Speaker 3: I'd love to take a run at him. I wanted
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  Speaker 3: him out of the draft. That was the year we
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  Speaker 3: drafted Cole Strange. Could have had Devin Lloyd. Never forget,
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  Speaker 3: and you know in the newsletter I also mentioned o'daffe
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  Speaker 3: always as a possible guy. You know, Edge Rusher. So
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  Speaker 3: there's you know who wrote this. This was Greg Rosenthal,
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  Speaker 3: who we spoke to at the at the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 3: he said, in his thirteen years of doing this, I'll
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  Speaker 3: read it exactly. While this year's list of top one,
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  Speaker 3: one hundred and one free agents doesn't post great star
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  Speaker 3: power at the top, it's incredibly deep. In the thirteen
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  Speaker 3: years I've been performing this exercise, there has never been
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  Speaker 3: a stronger group of players. So good. Yeah, he said,
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  Speaker 3: In short, if your team can't improve its roster and
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  Speaker 3: free agency, don't blame me, blame them. So it's it's
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  Speaker 3: a deep free agent class, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm excited for it, more definitely, more excited than
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  Speaker 6: I've ever been for a draft, just based on how
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  Speaker 6: it went last year and how many contributors they got.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting.
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  Speaker 6: I think Elliott it was when Elliott was just with
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  Speaker 6: Evan a couple of days ago, but he kind of
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  Speaker 6: talked about how the draft was last year was such
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  Speaker 6: a perfect storm of the coaches and all the scouts
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  Speaker 6: being on the same page unanimously with a lot of
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  Speaker 6: the players who just happened to kind of be there
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  Speaker 6: when they were ready to draft. And then not only that,
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  Speaker 6: but they panned out on the field and Craig Woodson
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  Speaker 6: was obviously a fourth rounder and the guy that they
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  Speaker 6: were really highlighting and talking about. But he said that
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  Speaker 6: was the case for a number of players, and it
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  Speaker 6: just goes back to like this whole season was just
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  Speaker 6: things working out for us, and apparently it went all
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  Speaker 6: the way back to the draft.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you know, in one of the things on
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  Speaker 3: Paul shows, they were kind of I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: they call it criticizing, but kind of questioning Mike Vrabel
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  Speaker 3: and what he said about drafting wide receivers that you know,
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  Speaker 3: you draft them and you know you have to develop them.
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  Speaker 3: And they were saying, well, you know, the real true
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  Speaker 3: you know, superstar like the justin Jeffersons Mart, they don't
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  Speaker 3: need to be developed. They come out of the womb
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: as good wide receivers. But I think what Rabel was
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: also talking about is even those guys have to be
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: developed within your system. So I think the Rabel's also
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: talking about the four months that you have them even
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: before the season starts. Yeah, you know, you know, showing
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: them how your playbook works, how your quarterback works, you know,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: how you like your route run. You know, So there
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: is even with guys like that, there's development needed within
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: your system. And I think he's also talking about that.
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: And within the NFL in general, right, playing against those defenses,
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: it's not college anymore.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Right, Right, So even if you know you have you're
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: lucky enough to get at Justin Jefferson, there's still that
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: time you need with him on your team to get
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: him ready to play ball in the NFL. But you know,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: some guys do take a couple more years to pan out.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Alec Pierce is a good example, you know. But you know,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: like at Jamar Chase, you know right away he starts
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: making an impact, but you have to have if if
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: he was on a team that had bad coaching or whatever,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: maybe it wouldn't be that. So you still have to
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: even with the great ones, you have to get him
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: acclimated to your team, you know, in the NFL. So
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: I think I think that's what he was talking about.
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, his comments on Kyle Williams are pretty interesting to me,
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: Like he was really glowing about him and just the
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: strides he saw and it just goes to show like
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: I don't know, I think we watched Kyle Williams a lot,
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: and he had a lot of X plays and those
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: really exciting moments, but a lot of times it kind
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: of looked like they weren't necessarily on the same page.
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: But then to hear Vraebel just so glowing about him,
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: It's like there's a lot of stuff that they see
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: from these guys in practice and in the minutia of
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: it all that we don't. So if they're excited about him,
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: I'm excited about h Yeah.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: There's a couple of things with Kyle Williams. I mean,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: he only had like twenty somethings to and he only
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: had ten catches, So that tells you a few things.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: One either he didn't have the trust of Drake May
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: and Josh McDaniels, or he wasn't running the right route
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: or getting open fast enough so that when you know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Drake May was dropping back, he didn't see him as
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: a target or a combination of all those things. Because
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I do think he had a slow start, but as
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: we saw, he's got some skills.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there was there was a couple of
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: times you'd see the all twenty two footage and he
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: had the cornerback beat it. Drake was getting hit like
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the potentials there. Yeah, definitely is a big play for it.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So the question with him is does it is
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: he the type of receiver that just takes longer to
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: open up. And if that's the case, then Drake's going
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: to just need more time if Kyle Williams is going
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: to be one of your weapons. So what I'd like
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: to see is can we get Kyle Williams to a
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: place where he gets open quicker? Yeah, because he's got
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: elite speed. We saw that, and I don't think his
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: hands are that bad.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, how are you going to try to
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: turn him into a high volume receiver, like, you know,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: you don't want him to be a three catch a game,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: five catches a game.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Right right right.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: One thing that stood out to me but Verybell said
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: about him was his ability to kind of change, like
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: adjust on the fly when he's already deep into a route.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: So maybe it's also just chemistry with him and Drake
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: and being on the same page of where he's going
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: to be when Kyle is being covered a certain way
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: or whatever the reason is that he's pivoting.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Well, well, you know, the first thing I think of
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: when you say adjusting deep into the route is time.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: So great, he can adjust deep into the route, But
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: what's happening with Drake during that time, you know, does
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: he have even time to see that adjustment? And that's
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: the you know, it's.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: Like a golf swing. Theer's so many things you got
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: to at once.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: It's like the domino effect. Okay, now we got to
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: talk about Drake's protection in the offensive line, But to
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: just stick to receivers a little bit and going back
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: to what we were talking about Diggs. If he does stay,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I still think that you need a number one receiver.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I agree, But then I think that goes back and
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: affects Kyle William because Kyle is kind of in that
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: rotation of pop Kyle and let's say Holland's So then
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: if you if you get to a J. Brown, that's
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: just pushing everybody down.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: That's Kyle Stay at the same place and someone else
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: is gone.
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Really realistic too.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: But what what are your thoughts on the free agent
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: or a trade receiver? Like I would rather do that
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: than try to draft somebody. It's been I mean, Kyle
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: is the first feels like the first receiver in a
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: while boo to where it's like, oh, we got something here, But.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: No, I think I think, you know, drafting at the
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: end of every round, I think that. I don't. I'm
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: not planning on getting an answer to wide receiver in
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: the draft this.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Year, especially with how deep tight end is.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Maybe a development guy later in the draft, maybe definitely
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: not an impact guy right away.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: But maybe through trade. Oh yeah, yeah, like I think,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: like I think, bet on yourself. Your first round pick
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: this year is pretty much a second. Well, if you're
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: good again next year, that first round pick might be
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: another you know, air quote second. So if you get
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a A J. Brown boom, you're great, let's go.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I I think that's the way to
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: go is to try to pick up a veteran. I
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: agree somehow, whether it's trade or through free agency, I
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: don't know all the I mean, George Pickens is available,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: but he's going to it's gonna be a big price.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Are they tagging him?
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's if he's been tagged, but
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: speculating Mike Evans. But if he's tag you're gonna need
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: to You're gonna need to trade and then pay him.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of a double wind.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'd rather get a pure free agent.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I listened. I wanted George Pickens when he
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: was first available. But he's a known head case, which
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: is if there's a coach that can knock that out
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: of somebody.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: But so, but here's what I would do. So if
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: if my plan is to get someone who is above
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: uh digs on the depth chart, then I and I
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: can get them. I know I can get them. I
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: sit down with Diggs and say, listen, you're gonna be
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: a volume guy. You're gonna be number two. Last year,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: everybody clamped down on you, especially in the playoffs. You
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: were you were the biggest target. Everyone knew that. This
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: year that's not gonna happen. You're gonna be more free,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: So your volume is gonna go up. So we're gonna
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: cut your pay, but we're gonna add incentives that we
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: think you're probably gonna hit and you can make a
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: lot of that money back. Yeah, I try to. If
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I think I'm going to get that wr one, I
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: try to talk him into that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: And that's I think it's not like totally unreasonable, despite
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: the typical persona of receivers, because I think he was
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: really unselfish this year already. I think he's probably gonna
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: be really realistic about where he is in his career
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: and again, like I just hope the loyalty comes in
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: to play too.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, I always made a goodoint. You're talking about incentives.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: He hit a good chunk of the the number one.
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: And apparently he can come really close like mac Collins
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: did and they're still going to reward him and they're
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: doing good business. So it's like moves like that. Just yeah,
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: I love the direction for Abel's taking this in, you know.
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: So.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: You know, whether it's A J. Brown or whoever, you know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I think that Diggs has to understand that he's gonna
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: make me better. You know, he's gonna help me because yeah,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: he was getting double teamed and bracketed and you know,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: a safety coming down and you know, hitting him up. So, uh,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: if you have that threat like a like an A J. Brown,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: it's got to help Diggs and it's gonna help everybody
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: and then it helps the rest of the wide receivers too.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: So who are your realistic options? Not through or through
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: free agency?
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: Trade?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Is it Pickens or I have to look it up.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Who's available? I think it's Pickens, Mike Evans, A J.
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: Brown through trade, Thomas Junior.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, trade, maybe shooting for the moon here Justin Jefferson.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so okay, so Pickens obviously Alec Pierce.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Like that doesn't Alec Pierce doesn't move the needle.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Doesn't move the needle. Mike Evans, you mentioned which now
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: but he's old now, Deebos Yeah, he's thirty three. Now,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel is available. And I used to love me
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: some Deebo Samuel.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: He was hanging on.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: He was my favorite player in the NFL, but was
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: our quarterback. Yeah, he has lost two steps maybe three. Yeah,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: he was here in training camp and I was like,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: that's Deebo Samuel.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I still think he's a smart, hard nosed football player
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: and that's what I loved about him. But he's he's
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: lost some speed. So he's only thirty. So Dobbs is
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: available from the Packers. He's only twenty six.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him too, but that he's kind of
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: similar to Alec Pierce to me, like, I don't think.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think he elevates your team that much.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Juwan Jennings. So now we're going down one. Dale Robinson
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: in Rashid Shahid. Nobody here on this panel was excited
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: about him. Keenan Allen used to be good. But now
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: he's thirty four. Marquis Brown from the Chiefs, he's twenty nine.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: He's a deep threat.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Did you have the trade and you have to be
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: willing to give up the picks?
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah? So, I mean we've gone down the DeAndre Hopkins route.
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: We we even had him in the locker room.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: We can bring we can bring back Taekwon Thornton. He's available.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: He was very pumped for us.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: We saw him Kristin and I saw him on radio road.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: Really really he was talking to us and just like
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: really pumped for us. Nice, so good kid.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not in terms of that high level.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: It's yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: And listen, when you've got Jamar Chase, so you've got
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Jeff Justin. Jeff, you don't let them go. You don't
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: let them get the free agent.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Said, those guys don't get to free agent.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Right, you don't extend those elite guys. That's what I mean.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, you don't let those elite guys get to
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: free agents.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: Obviously a j.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Brown I think is the biggest game changer.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: But like my thing is what was his biggest issue
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: in Philly that he's just trying to force himself out
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: coming off of a Super Bowl like that is just
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: such a red flag to me. I don't know, And
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: like to friend's point saying like, now he's going to
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: come in and share the spotlight with Digs, he couldn't
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: do it with Saquon.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: It's just and people think that that's a marriage that
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: can't work. Again, I think if it's explained in such
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: a way that you know, you show Digs what happened,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: my worry.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Is less Digs and more Aj Brown.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: Well true, how unselfish our receivers are in this and
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: Rabel system and how they were this year.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I imagine it's not gonna.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Be But you explained the plan to Digs. You say, listen,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: we're gonna we need to establish aj as the number one,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: as the guy that the other team needs to stop.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Once we do that, that's gonna help your production, HM,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: because the double team's gonna go to him, and Drake
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: May's going to be a year better. He's gonna we're
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: gonna improve the offensive line. That's only gonna make your
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: numbers as good as they were last year better towards
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: the end of the season when we need it more.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Because let's face it. That's what happened at the end
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: of the season. You know, the team's strategy was shut
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: down digs and they become a little bit easier to defend.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: We're back to twenty twenty five when the offense was
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: when the offense was easy to defend, and it became
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: that way because teams would shut down digs.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, no, Alex, you're talking about head cases.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I think Pickens is way more of a head case.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I think Aj Brown, I think his stuff's internal in Philly,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and I think once he leaves, it'll be complete new player.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: That's me personal. Yeah, sometimes you just need to change
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: of change of scenery. Yeah, but you know.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: He's gonna make a lot of money pickings. He'll probably
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: get in that thirty million dollars plus range.
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: Hopefully it doesn't sitation so whoever it takes him on.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: But we all know the love that AJ Brown and
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Mike Frable have, you know, it's they seem to really
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: love each other. So whatever problems that AJ Brown had
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: with Sirianni and the Eagles, at least for a year,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: you'll have a honeymoon period.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Was laid it on Thick too.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm proud of him as a father like he
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: really was.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: So you know, if I think I'm gonna, you know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: give up an asset and pay AJ Brown, I got
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: to have that talk with Diggs. And if the talk
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: doesn't go well, then I got to let Diggs go
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: and then you know, kind of figure out how I
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: make up for that. Now, let's just say that it
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: doesn't work out with Diggs, but you do have AJ
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Brown who becomes your number two? Okay, And do you
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: think that he's the kind of guy that can compliment
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: AJ Brown? You know, because Diggs is a down fore guy, right, Yeah.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I think he can. But I think that that's a
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: situation where Diggs goes than a Romeo Dobbs or an
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Alec Pierce becomes a bit more interesting to me, and
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: then that frees up Booty And yeah, I don't know,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: everything changes once you get the star players.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's going to be interesting. It's it's going
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: to be interesting. And then, of course, you know we
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: talked about all this doesn't matter if the offensive line
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: can't protect true, so they have to pay attention to
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: the offensive line. What are they going to do with Wilson?
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: You know, Uh, Moses looks like he's going to be back,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: but you know he's I think we got really lucky
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: that he was fairly healthy all season, and you know,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: is that going to happen again. I think you need
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: a contingency plan at right tackle or will be. Yeah,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I think you need I think you need a plan
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: B at right tackle. You better have that ready.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I mean always should be just building the depth on
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the O line.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: But yep, all right, So that's those are some of
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: the topics that we want to talk about. Any other
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: NFL stuff going on that we need to we need
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: to talk about. No, nothing crazy, nobody acting foolish around
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: the league of the Jets.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Jets just make a trade.
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: I thought the Viking situation is really interesting in some
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: of their comments on JJ McCarthy and how like they're
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: looking to possibly improve the quarterback position, and it's just
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: so funny to see how they you move on from
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: Sam Donald and how it all played out for that.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's crazy to think about how different the
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: league would be if Donald won that last playoff game,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: where like the Vik's probably could have got three picks
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: for him last year realistically, so all the league would
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: be different.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: So Anthony Richardson wants a trade. Do you think any
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: team will try to reclaim him as a reclamation project
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: and say, you know, the the athleticism that they saw,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: we see and we can make him into a quarterback.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: It's I think Sam Donald might have done irreversible damage
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: to the NFL.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: It wasn't even Sam Donald. I think it was go
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: back to Baker.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, build that.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Seattle form Seattle.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: That being said Anthony Richardson, probably one of the most
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: talented arms in the league. He's made. He made one
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: of the greatest throws, like in his rookie debut, Like
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: it's worth it. If you're a team that's struggling and
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: you can get him for a Day two pick, maybe
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: a Day three pick, why not. What do you have
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: to lose?
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: I think the Patriots were in such a good position
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: to be able to get a guy like Drake May.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: But if they weren't, that's the route I would like
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: to see them take, Like go after a vet who
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: maybe like didn't have a great situation and just see
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: what happens.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: So what do you think the deal is with Malik Willis?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I mean, he was in a
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: bad situation in Tennessee. He goes to Green Bay and
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: it's maybe like he has the arm. He's mobile, and
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: obviously everybody wants a mobile quarterback now. But I'd rather
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: take mac Jones personally, I thought mac Jones was playing wow, like,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: if not for the Patriots, but if it was a
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: different team. I thought he was in a bad situation
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: here in the game Snowballs, No the game, the game
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: he's stepped in for the forty nine ers. He was great,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: kept him alive while party was out.
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: I think I'd rather takes probably saved their season.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is going to be available, right. I heard
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: he might get resigned by the He might get resigned.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: But has he earned himself some money? I think before
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: he got injured, but now, I mean, yeah he did.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: He did earn himself some money. I'll put it that
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I'd pay anybody off. Then Achilles, I mean, was his Yeah.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: But Jason Tatum's about to play.
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Achilles aren't what they used to be.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, he has, he has earned himself.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: What's his success a product of his own ability or
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: a product of an amazing running game that kind of
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: helped him?
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: So both? Yeah, both? But I mean the Giants is
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: just not the best situation to be put in. I
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: think similar with Malik Wilson the Titans. So yeah, he
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: can throw the ball, that's all takes.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's confidence.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's going to be a wild free agent period. Yeah,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks always interesting, But any.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: Somewhat proven quarterback I think they're just going to get
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: paid because of it's that's the position and there's a
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: need I think planing him.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, you know, the stock is rising
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: on smart, offensive minded coaches. Yeah, because I think we've
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: seen that if you put a you know, it doesn't
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: have to be elite, but a capable quarterback in the
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: hands of a really smart offensive coordinator, splash head coach,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: they can succeed in this league. They don't have to
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: be Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes. You could have success.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: And if then you build around that rest of the team,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: you know, like the Colts, like before they had that injury,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: like they were headed into the.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: Playoffs, Pats were trailing them half the season until that injury.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Right, It's interesting just with the draft class this year
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: for quarterbacks, it's really just been doza and then you
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: have a really good draft class next year. So maybe
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: you front load the contract for the free agent vet
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: and then if it doesn't work, you can get out
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: and get your rookie the next year.
• 33:54
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• 34:01
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• 34:04
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: It's that time of year where we start planning, we
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: start building herms in DC. What's up?
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Hey, what's going on?
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Guys? Hey?
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: Condolences?
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: So Will pass away in Paul family real quick.
• 34:20
  Speaker 11: So I think nowadays the society, I think it's just
• 34:24
  Speaker 11: this whole microwave society is just starting, like, you know,
• 34:27
  Speaker 11: bumming a little bit because there's been a lot of
• 34:30
  Speaker 11: talk about you know.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Will Campbell's la tackle this guys. He's fine, you know
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: what I mean. He had a it did have a
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: bad game at a very bad time. Nobody can take
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: that away from him. But he will get stronger, he
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: gets better. He's only twenty two years old. But we
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: just have to, you know, give people Tom to develop.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: It gets stronger, you know what I mean.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: So I hope you're right, Yeah, yeah, it will be Yeah.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: He will be okay, Yeah, Will we'll stand but that
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, I'm just not get better.
• 35:03
  Speaker 12: It's just we'll be fine, okay.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: And then we also have to be careful.
• 35:07
  Speaker 11: We have to be careful of wanting to trade digs.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I'm gonna say.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: You know, take it off here do you say careful
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: of trading trading digs? Trading digs? Okay? Why do we
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: have to be careful? I don't know, yes, who would trade?
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: But but going back, going back to Campbell. Something you know,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Alex you were mentioning before the show that Rabel talked
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: about is you know, we need to get in the
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: weight room, we need to get stronger. Yeah, you know,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: like and he said that in general terms, like we
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: need to get stronger, but I know in his mind
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: one of the guys he's probably thinking about is Will Campbell.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: And Elliott said as much. He said, I the strength.
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: And Will Campbell's lower body wasn't the same after the
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: injury down the stretch.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: And it's just.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: Without Young the team is too like Rabel's words, not mine,
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: like this is a grown man's sport, you know, And
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: I don't think really a grown man until you're at
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: least twenty five.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: You guys sake this much better than I can. But
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I just think, like.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know, it's still not a grown man go right.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: So it's just getting in the weight room is obviously
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: so important for those young guys. And Rabel kind of
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: expanded on this with Evan and Deuce and told.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: A really cool story about Tom Brady.
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: I don't know if you saw it, but he was
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: Rabel essentially was like everyone gives so much credence to
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: Tom and his playability and his resistance stretch bands and stuff,
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: but not enough people really think about the foundation he
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: set early in his career when he was squatting and
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: deadlifting with the linebackers and before he really got involved
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: with Alex, like he was heavy lifting, and really that's
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: really where he transformed his body as he came into
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: a grown man and tried to set himself up best
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: to play the quarterback situation. I just think, like putting
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: on muscle is so important for a young team. And
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: cool anecdote about Brady.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, most of these guys that come,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: you know, from college, if they're in Division one, in
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Big ten or SEC, they probably have really really good
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: strength and conditioning programs and trainers, you know, because they're
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: graduates who are like learning, you know, and it's all
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: the latest stuff and everything like that. But your biology
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: still yeah, but it's still not your It is your
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: job in college. I shouldn't say that, But they still
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: don't get the twenty four hour type of attention that
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: they get once they become a pro, you know. So
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: there there is a leap that you can make from
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: a strength standpoint. Once you get into the league. You
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: get on the program, the program, Yeah, you get.
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: On nutritions just so much more dialed into, like yeah,
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: in terms of bulking and putting on Wii. And it's
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: just they're all so I don't know, like our our
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: team does such a great job with nutrition. I think, yeah,
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: Ted Harper, Ted Harper and Sam like they have plans
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: for every single player. And a lot of college programs
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: do too, the big time ones, but not all of them,
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: you know. And do you get the college athletes to
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: like buy into the nutrition all the time. I think
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: once you get to the NFL, these guys kind of
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: realize like, oh, everyone has this stuff dialed in.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I can't just get buy anymore.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe that KEG party I shouldn't be going to you know,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe I shouldn't be eating fast food as
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: much as I do.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Those aren't hungry anymore. In college. You're getting paid already.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I love the TikTok I saw about this.
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: It was it was about like the culture shift in
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: the NBA over the years, and it was like, these
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: kids are too rich to like care enough like compared.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: To Well, that's a whole different discussion and kind of
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Elliott touched on it, you know how nil is kind
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: of changing the draft a little bit.
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: It even goes before that with club sports and being
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: able to afford these specialized I don't know, that's our
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: rabbit hole that.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: We Yeah, that's a whole different discussion. But yeah, I mean,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: but in terms of, you know, just getting stronger, when
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: a coach, whoever it is, is that pointed with one
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: specific thing, because I remember years ago when Belichick said
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: we need to get faster, you know, on defense speed.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I don't think they ever really achieved that. But when
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: a coach says that, you know, there's they say it
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: for a reason. And the fact that he was like,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: we just we need to get stronger, I think he
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: saw too many examples last year, particularly in the playoffs,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: where maybe guys were getting pushed around, you know. And
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: so that's great Patriots fans. Let me tell you something.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: You can feel real good that we are in good
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: hands when it comes to the head coach and this,
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: he's a smart guy. He's smart and ball. He loves ball,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: he knows ball, can relate to the players, can relate
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: to the players. He's one at the highest level. He's
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: played multiple positions and every time he did it, he
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: did it well. Ten catches, ten touchdowns. Who does that
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: as a as a defensive end. So we are in
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: good hands. So that's one thing that you can count on,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Patriot's Nation. Uh, and sleep easy.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, because you had two rookies on the left
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: side of the line, which was shambles last year. Then
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: they both get hurt I'm pretty sure the same game,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: like it was gonna bite them in the butt. Eventually.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: It sucks it happened in the Super Bowl, but the
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: fact that we made it there, like, yeah, I think
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Will was a bit more hurt than we thought.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: And maybe, you know, Will also takes so much of
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: the heat compared to Wilson. And of course, yeah, Tuesday
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: it's about where he was drafted, but it wasn't all
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: on him. And obviously two rookies on the left side
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: are going to get attacked in the Super Bowl by
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: a defensive front that is like bone fight veterans that
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: have been here a long time and just yeah, the.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Only thing about and I'm I'm in Will Campbell, Campy,
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: But the fact is he didn't face the gauntlet of
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: past rushers in the regular season like he did in
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: the playoffs, and so did he get exposed a little bit?
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe now you have to factor in the m
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: c L. So we'll see. But you know, he does
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: need to get stronger, and I you know, you saw
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: hints of that even earlier in the season. But for
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: the most part, he was fine during the regular season,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: but I don't the quality certainly ramped up in his opponents, uh,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: you know, during the playoffs. So so we'll see. But
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: I am team Campbell. I I want this guy to
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: be our left tackle for a decade with you on that.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: You know, I forget who was saying. Evan was talking
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: with Dane Dean Brugler. Dane Brugler, and by the way,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: he's unbelievable. What an Encyclopedia to talk about it was crazy.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: But anyway, you know, Evan mentioned, you know that, you
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: know we're going to stick with Campbell as the left tackle,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: and Brugle just threwout, well they should, Yeah, And I
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: was hoping Evan would kind of follow up on that,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: why do you think they should? But he just kind
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: of left it out there. Jerry Madelon wouldn't have liked that,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: but yeah, so Dame Brugler said, you know, the Patriots
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: should stick with him at left tackle. So that that
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: makes me feel a little bit.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: No, I think it's a bit crazy for people after
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: the first year when your rookie helped, like he did
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: help get you guys a Super Bowl, Now you're like,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: move him to the left guard.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: I know. But but the numbers, the sack numbers, I agree,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: but they were historic and historically bad. H So you know,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: we have to be level headed about it. You know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: we can't just be yahoos. We have to say that
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: area needs improvement, you know, it needs.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I just think it's a bit harsh after year one
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: to be like, oh, this is all you.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Don't give up on the player.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think that's part of like you could quote
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: like maybe he could have been he could have been benched.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe he should have been benched in that game. I
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: think low when he stepped in and showed he's serviceable,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: But like what does that do to Will?
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: But what if Will Campbell's still is playing?
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: And Evans made this point and I love it, but
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: Ben Brown, a bigger body is next to him, and
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: you know, a veteran. So I just I that's my
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: like butterfly fact, like, oh what could have been if
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: they You don't want to do Smariel I keeper playing
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: in my head from the super Bowl.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: You don't want to do like my coaches say, like
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: no more what it could have should? You're looking back,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: but I'm with you. You just look like I.
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: Don't know, And I I get wanting those young guys
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: to get experienced, because those are guys that you've invested
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: in as draft picks and they're hopefully going to be
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: here a long time and continue to develop. But I
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: don't know. It's just what would it have looked like?
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: Bigger body?
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: So you know Will and others, Wilson, a lot of
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: these young guys, You're gonna have to be coached hard.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: You know, as soon as you know it's they're able
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: to come back to the facility because they're gonna need
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: to get stronger, they need to get faster, they need
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: to learn to playbook a little bit better, a little
• 44:08
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• 44:11
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• 44:13
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• 44:18
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• 44:22
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• 44:26
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  Speaker 8: and you know some of those things. I mean again,
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: I there he will when I get back to Foxborough,
• 48:32
  Speaker 8: you know, I mean, I don't want to sit here
• 48:34
  Speaker 8: and misspeak and figure out where that ends up. And
• 48:37
  Speaker 8: you know, I've got a plan for him, and I
• 48:39
  Speaker 8: think that that's in a vision is better than then
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: the title necessarily, So you know, I just I don't
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: want to say something and not have that be you know,
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: an accurate depiction of what ends up happening once we
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: work through a lot of different things. Yeah, well, I
• 49:04
  Speaker 8: mean not only his future, but what he was able
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: to do for us and come in and and provide leadership,
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: work extremely hard and the time that he was rehabing
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: from the knee, and you know, I think it's just
• 49:19
  Speaker 8: a really good presence each and every week. And so
• 49:23
  Speaker 8: as we look to evaluate the football team, you know,
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: we're doing that constantly. We're doing that Elliott and myself
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: and Ryan and Stretch and Elliott's staff, and you know,
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: just being a little bit behind of where we were
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: just how long the season went. We're those conversations for
• 49:40
  Speaker 8: each and every player are happening in the meetings in
• 49:43
  Speaker 8: between that we have with the draft players here. So
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: you know, there's a lot of things that we'll do
• 49:47
  Speaker 8: between now and the time that the football season starts.
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: So that's going to be the same with with I
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: would say most every player on our roster. M. Yeah, well,
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: I think that there's probably some things that you know,
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: go into them making decisions, and again, we want our
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: players to make great decisions. And again we've we've tried
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: to support those players that have some things that have
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: come up, whether those are accusations, We're going to let
• 50:20
  Speaker 8: the legal process run its course, just like we said before.
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: Uh and and those players, whether that's the fund or
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: anybody else that has something, has done exactly what they're
• 50:31
  Speaker 8: supposed to do, be where they're supposed to be, communicate
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: with this, with the court when they're supposed to communicate
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: with them. So you know, we're going to let all
• 50:40
  Speaker 8: that take care of itself, and then we'll have to
• 50:42
  Speaker 8: see what the judgments are. You know in those particular cases. Well,
• 50:51
  Speaker 8: I think that there's you know, just looking across the board,
• 50:54
  Speaker 8: I think there's volume at the tight end class. And yeah,
• 50:58
  Speaker 8: whether they're premium players or what people would say that
• 51:02
  Speaker 8: their first round picks. I just know that, you know,
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: when you go and you evaluate other teams and you
• 51:07
  Speaker 8: get ready to play for them, there's a bunch of
• 51:09
  Speaker 8: fourth and fifth round you know, tight ends that ended
• 51:12
  Speaker 8: up starting and playing and contributing, and you know, so
• 51:15
  Speaker 8: wherever that value is, I just think that there's some
• 51:17
  Speaker 8: names there and I myself personally have to do a
• 51:22
  Speaker 8: better job of, you know, evaluating that position that I
• 51:26
  Speaker 8: can then give input to to the rest of the
• 51:29
  Speaker 8: personnel staff and kind of the vision that we have,
• 51:32
  Speaker 8: you know for that position. I think, you know, we've
• 51:35
  Speaker 8: met with a bunch of edge players. There's there's a
• 51:37
  Speaker 8: depth there. So you know, we'll continue to work our
• 51:41
  Speaker 8: way across the board and then enjoy these meetings and
• 51:45
  Speaker 8: you know, I'll have to go back and continue to
• 51:46
  Speaker 8: watch did I talk to hi? Yep? Well, man, I
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: think every year is different, and so we'll have to
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: have a really good rookie class next year. And we
• 52:04
  Speaker 8: hope that the players that we drafted, the ones that
• 52:07
  Speaker 8: played a lot, the ones that played you know, fifty
• 52:10
  Speaker 8: or sixty percent of the playtime, are the ones that
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: maybe didn't play as much. That they all need to develop.
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: They need to continue to grow and develop not only physically,
• 52:18
  Speaker 8: but in our program mentally and emotionally, and you know,
• 52:21
  Speaker 8: become more that foundation that we talked about. So, you know,
• 52:25
  Speaker 8: playing and winning seventeen games as a rookie is only
• 52:29
  Speaker 8: good if you can continue to to improve and use
• 52:32
  Speaker 8: those experiences, you know, to your benefit that would then
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: help the team process. What do you think, Well, I
• 52:42
  Speaker 8: talk Arthur's a friend, so I talked to him, you know,
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: often got a lot of respect for him as a coach,
• 52:48
  Speaker 8: but not only that as a person who is a friend,
• 52:52
  Speaker 8: you know. So for all the Ohio State fans, I
• 52:54
  Speaker 8: guess we have somebody to complain to if they don't
• 52:57
  Speaker 8: score fifty points a game, like every other Buckeye fan.
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: And so I'm excited for him to be in Columbus.
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: Obviously that place means a lot to me, you know,
• 53:06
  Speaker 8: personally in my family, so you know, having having gone
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: there and lived there and you know, support them. Yeah, well,
• 53:32
  Speaker 8: we should never have a reason for volume and staff
• 53:34
  Speaker 8: We we need to evaluate staffing at that level and
• 53:38
  Speaker 8: to find out and make sure that that every game
• 53:41
  Speaker 8: is treated the same, whether it's the primetime game on
• 53:43
  Speaker 8: Sunday night, it's the primetime game on Monday or Thursday,
• 53:47
  Speaker 8: or or those one o'clock games that you know is
• 53:50
  Speaker 8: the lifeblood of our league. So I think that if
• 53:54
  Speaker 8: if we need to figure out what staffing issues that
• 53:57
  Speaker 8: need to be taken care of so that those things
• 53:59
  Speaker 8: are looked at and we're not letting anything slip. We
• 54:02
  Speaker 8: need to be really good in replay. There's gonna be
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: mistakes on the field, just like there's mistakes and execution
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: by the players, mistakes by the coaches. There's gonna be
• 54:12
  Speaker 8: mistakes by the officials. There are, and they need to
• 54:15
  Speaker 8: be decisive. They need to believe in what they're calling.
• 54:19
  Speaker 8: But saying that there's gonna be mistakes, we have to
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: get to a system and replay that is close to
• 54:25
  Speaker 8: one hundred percent accurate as possible. I'm sorry. Well again,
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: I've never played for him, I've never coached with him.
• 54:35
  Speaker 8: I would say just his record speaks for itself. I
• 54:37
  Speaker 8: have a lot of respect for what he's done. I
• 54:40
  Speaker 8: don't have his secret sauce. I wish I did and
• 54:43
  Speaker 8: to be able to do it at one place for
• 54:45
  Speaker 8: eighteen years. But I know that his teams are They're physical,
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: their sound, they play great defense. They force you into mistakes.
• 54:55
  Speaker 8: But other than that, I'm only looking at it from
• 54:58
  Speaker 8: being against them. I just know that you're gonna make
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: some mistakes. Hopefully don't make too many of them. You
• 55:08
  Speaker 8: don't want to make the same mistakes twice. It's important
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: to be around the building. It's important to make sure
• 55:14
  Speaker 8: everybody in the organization knows that their job is critical
• 55:18
  Speaker 8: to our success. Now, I'm sure I made a bunch
• 55:23
  Speaker 8: of them. It's meant I think the relationship with with
• 55:40
  Speaker 8: players and specifically asked about aj it has meant a lot.
• 55:43
  Speaker 8: I've watched them grow, I've watched them mature. I'm proud
• 55:45
  Speaker 8: of them, proud of the you know, the father that
• 55:48
  Speaker 8: he is. I'm proud of the husband. And that has
• 55:50
  Speaker 8: nothing to do with where he plays and where or
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: where he played. So those are the things that are important.
• 55:57
  Speaker 8: You know, we reach out and text each other during
• 55:59
  Speaker 8: the things that happen good to each other, and sometimes
• 56:02
  Speaker 8: things don't go so well for for the people that
• 56:05
  Speaker 8: you're close with, and you text those as well. So, uh,
• 56:09
  Speaker 8: it's been a two way street of support and reminders
• 56:14
  Speaker 8: of of what got us to where we are here today.
• 56:17
  Speaker 8: I'm interested in how much get as much as you
• 56:28
  Speaker 8: guys can get. I guess it's about the same time.
• 56:30
  Speaker 8: So it depends what kind of questions you ask. You
• 56:33
  Speaker 8: get eighteen minutes. Some teams go over and then they
• 56:36
  Speaker 8: come rushing in, and then then the next team's late.
• 56:39
  Speaker 8: So that's the process. It's how long you can keep
• 56:41
  Speaker 8: them past eighteen minutes for the person that's taking them
• 56:43
  Speaker 8: to the other room standing outside the room, banging on it.
• 56:47
  Speaker 8: But it's you know, some guys have a lot to
• 56:50
  Speaker 8: talk about. Some guys have not as much. And I
• 56:54
  Speaker 8: think everybody has a story, everybody has a journey. Some
• 56:57
  Speaker 8: some players have a little bit more in their journey
• 56:59
  Speaker 8: that you have to unpack and sometimes you have to do.
• 57:03
  Speaker 8: You know, there's obviously follow up, and this is a
• 57:05
  Speaker 8: good first setting with forty five players might go ahead,
• 57:09
  Speaker 8: Bud Well, I don't want to tell you what it
• 57:16
  Speaker 8: is because we're still working through it. You know, we don't,
• 57:19
  Speaker 8: you know, I mean we we want to have a
• 57:21
  Speaker 8: plan and we want to bring in really talented players
• 57:24
  Speaker 8: that we have a vision for that we also believe
• 57:27
  Speaker 8: in the type of character that they have as we
• 57:29
  Speaker 8: build this team and improve on what we did this year,
• 57:34
  Speaker 8: and we know how difficult that will be. So right
• 57:37
  Speaker 8: now the plan is to evaluate everybody that we can
• 57:41
  Speaker 8: have communication and conversations when those times come with the
• 57:47
  Speaker 8: with the agents, we approach the tampering window. But right
• 57:52
  Speaker 8: now it's about gaining information from our scouting department and
• 57:55
  Speaker 8: having our coaches look at it and then figuring out,
• 57:58
  Speaker 8: you know, a few players at each position that that
• 58:00
  Speaker 8: may help us. I've never really tried to get focused,
• 58:07
  Speaker 8: you know. I mean if I shop at NEMA, Marcus
• 58:09
  Speaker 8: or Nordstrom or something. I've gotten to the point now
• 58:12
  Speaker 8: in my life where if I want something, I can
• 58:14
  Speaker 8: usually buy it. I don't, you know. I'm sure Richard
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: Miller and Elliott and Macro will will work and do
• 58:21
  Speaker 8: everything that they can to help us sign the players
• 58:24
  Speaker 8: within certain exceptions. You know. I just I haven't even
• 58:27
  Speaker 8: gotten that far just to feel like something usually just
• 58:30
  Speaker 8: try to buy it.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: And now great moments in.
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: History, they have stuff that isn't it's it's just kind
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: of the n E logo.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: It's not actually right. So I mean there it's almost rivalry.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: I want the authentic stuff. What would you get a
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: lot of people ask me for one of those. I'm sorry,
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: that's all right. We just got an email about talking.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Over reach, still talking stick, we're talking sick.
• 59:02
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• 59:04
  Speaker 3: I might resort to that. No, you can't hear, you
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: literally can't hear.
• 59:10
  Speaker 13: You know what all the experts say, experts of Wait,
• 59:15
  Speaker 13: I apologize sixteen times.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you know, I'm just talking what fans are saying.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: If you want to call them experts. Great, Now Paul
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: is upset.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Say what you were going to say?
• 59:28
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• 59:31
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• 59:34
  Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.
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• 59:41
  Speaker 3: past five hundred is the hot line? Excuse me, just
• 59:46
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• 59:52
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• 59:56
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• 59:58
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• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: Right now?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: Oh he's early? Okay, well then we can't have him. Wait,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: let's go right to Deuce. What's up, Deuce?
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 2: Basically?
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  Speaker 6: What video camera are we using over there?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: It looks fancy. I'm being flanked right now. I don't
• 1:00:21
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• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: and Tony Flannagan here enjoying some delicious shapiros sandwiches shapiros
• 1:00:29
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• 1:00:32
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• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, speaking of eating, have you been to Saint Almos yet?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: I have not, fred I you missed it.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was, it was Unfortunately I was stuck. I
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: got stuck in Boston, so I didn't get out till
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: Tuesday night. They had to go on without me on
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: the almost reservation. But I am planning tonight to hit
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: up Almos and get a make up steak before I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: head back tomorrow.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Are you going solo? I?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I'll do whatever I gotta do,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: gonna I'm not gonna let that intimidate me. I'm gonna
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: go stuff my fat face with a steak no matter
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: who comes or does.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: Cozy up to the bar and get yourself a steak
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: and you got to have the shrimp and yeah, enjoy.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: All right, so let's get right into it, Mike. Yesterday
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: we heard Rabel talking, you know, we we talked about,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: you know, some of the things he had to say.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: You know, what what have you guys been doing since then?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: And and maybe include what you did yesterday.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: Sure, Yeah, it was great to get a chance to
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: talk to to Vrabel again. You know, he was kind
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: of busting our chops a little bit, as I said,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: you know, hey, we haven't had a chance to talk
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: to you since last confine, and he was like, you
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: can dok to me whenever you want. But but it
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: was a lot of fun. I feel like he's getting
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: a little more comfortable, certainly with Evan and I and
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: really the rest of the team. You can just see.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: It was one of the things Vrabel said yesterday, one
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: of the biggest differences just being more comfortable with the
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: media crew and our internal crew, h et cetera. But
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: but it's been great here on media row, as it
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: always is, not quite the extensive amount of interviews that
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: we did at the Super Bowl, but we've banked a bunch.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: It's been really fun talking to some of these guys.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: And you know, today we got to see the tight
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: ends and the defensive backs, and I clocked, you know,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: Vrabel saying he thought there was some interesting depth in
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: this class. So I think that's a good sign to
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: look at some of these guys lower ranked. I mean,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: you know, I think the kid from Oregon, Sidiq, is
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: the clear cut number one tight end and probably a
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: first rounder. But after that sounded like Rabel thought there
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: were some talent there too, So that's a position. We
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: spent so much time talking about edge and tackle that
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: it's good to hear a little bit something different, different
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: perspective with the tight end. So kid Max Claire from
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: Ohio State, somebody I thought was really athletic. Maybe could
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: fit that mid round bill and otherwise we'll wrap up tomorrow.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: Check out the quarterbacks, wide receivers. I know that's an
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: important one for everybody. So looking forward to seeing guys
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: like Casey Concepcion, which going right around with the Patriots
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: or picking in the first round. So it's been another
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: great combine, even though I got here a little late.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: So about any of the people that you've seen in person,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: anybody jump out in terms of their comportment or you know,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: how they carry themselves.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: Well, Caleb Downs has the swag, and I mean a
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: lot of people here saying he could be the most
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: talented player in the draft. It's interesting to see where
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: he goes. Heard from him. He talked about Matt Patricia.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: Gave Matt Patricia a lot of credit for taking his
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: game to a new level there as Ohio State's defensive coordinator.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: You know, it's funny some of these guys. I was
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: saying here, I think I've been doing it long enough
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: that some guys just give professional athlete vibes like you
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: just like this guy, he's gonna step into a locker room,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: he's gonna know to take it seriously and be a professional.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: And there's been a handful of those guys. Sure some
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: of them will pop into my mind. Is as I
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: continue to talk, I get a key Mesidor that's one
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: that everybody's been talking about from Miami. Super disruptive defensive end.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: Probably gonna go some we're in that late first round.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: He was one too, that just gave those vibes. Talked
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: a lot about Jason Taylor being a huge part in
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: his development, along with Ruben Bain, who I don't know
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: if you guys saw, but he had sub thirty one
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: inch arms. So we're back talking about armlink the game.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: But maybe it pushes a guy like Ruben bank Bain
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: down a little bit. Other guys in this class of
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: edge players get pushed down, and maybe the Patriots are
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: able to get, you know, a high value player there
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: at thirty first.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: Overall, one of the things that Vrabel talked about yesterday,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: you know, in terms of off season needs, and he
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: was very pointed about it was that the team needs
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: to get stronger, like, yeah, did you hear that? And
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: what did you think when you heard it?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 8: I did.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if he said it a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: second time, but I was the one that asked him
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: a question that got it out of him on our
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: interview because he had said which I thought was really
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: interesting at the podium, talking about challenging his coaches to
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: continue to evolve and to come up with, you know,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: new ways to build on their schemes. And so the
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: I asked him in our interview, you know, was there
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: anything else that you know, you were looking for from
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: this offseason? And he went right to that. I mean
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: I heard Alex mentioned, you know, talking. I mean, it's
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: kind of you look at that Super Bowl and Will
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: Campbell and Jared Wilson, those are probably exhibits A and B.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: And to tie it into when we had Mike gries
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: On yesterday, I said, Fred, when we talked to him
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: at the Super Bowl, when he came up with that
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: that thing which he admitted he got from Nick Cassario
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: of looking at those veteran defensive linemen that the Seahawks
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: had in such a rotation that they could just keep
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: rolling those guys. I mean, I think that's where that
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl matchup was won and loss. So when you
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: look at I mean, everybody's like, well, Campbell, Campbelllock. We
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: got at that, like there is element of players getting stronger,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: getting better, playing faster, and I think that's what Mike
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: Vrabel realizes. We believe in this kid, but he's going
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: to have to meet us halfway by getting stronger and
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: you know, improving his pass sets. Things that you've heard
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: all over the last couple of weeks in the fallout
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: of the Super Bowl.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: What's the scuttle butt on you know, his comments about
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: digs and Gonzo's contracts.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think there you know, we had
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: Elliott on and they saw him playing it a little
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: down the middle about you know, those things will come
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: in due time. Reese's speculation yesterday was that that was
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: kind of semantics and that you don't want to get
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: into talking about that stuff before the new league year.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: But I think all everybody knows Christian Gonzalez is an
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: outstanding player and that the Patriots should want to keep him.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: But it takes two to Tango. We'll see how those
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: negotiations go, but I'm sure that. I mean to me,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: that's kind of the main point of the offseason, securing
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: Gonzo and figuring out the edge position, maybe at a
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: left guard. You don't have to go crazy in free
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: agency to shore up some of these holes. And then,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: as Rabel said, you got to continue to draft. Well,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: that's that's so critical for this team as they round
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: out the program, continue to put additions on the foundation
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: that they built this year. So you know, every time
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: I come here, you just get so excited. You see
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: the young players that are enthusia he asked about getting
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: into the league, and you know, you start to imagine
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: how great some of them could be in a Patriots uniform.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: Have you developed a draft crush yet or a little
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: too early, But now that you're seeing these guys in person, I.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: Know you like, that's a good No, I do, I
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: do for sure. You know, the kid Keldric Fawk, He's
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: probably gonna be long gone before the Patriots pick, but
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: he's just one of those do it all edge players.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: I think he's probably in the team somewhere based on
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: what I've seen, But I really liked him the other one.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: And this is a guy we've been talking about all week.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: We heard from one of our guests this week earlier,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: Mark Ross, who'll be out in today's podcast. You know,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: I asked him, is there a certain guy that pops
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: out to you that that screams Mike Frable? And he said,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: our Mason. How shoot, I'm blanking on his last name
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: here on our Mason something from Oklahoma. It'll come to
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: me in a second. But he at the podium, small guy,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: small edge rusher, but all effort. And that's another thing
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: that everybody talks about here is just the Rabel kind
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: of players. There's a lot of those guys. They jump
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: off the tape. You see him play with their hair
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: on fire. Uh, And I gotta look, this is gonna
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: kill me. How the hell did I freaking blank on
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: ar Mason's last name? I've been talking about him.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: So unique that how could you even it?
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 8: Is? Okay?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: Thomas R Mason Thomas Sorry, And you know, to go
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: full circle on this, like his name is literally R Mason.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: His mom named him that because all his brothers had
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: our names, but she didn't want him to have an
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: R name. But she still want him to have an
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: r SO. He is ar Mason doesn't stand for anything.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: It's just an r SO. Our Mason Thomas, he's a
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: he's a Rabel kind of guy.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Dude, you've been doing this for a couple of years.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Is it refreshing that this year you're going in not
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: really knowing what the team's gonna do? You know, the
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: two years ago you had Drake May. Last year you
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: kind of knew you were taking Campbell or one of
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: those guys. Now you're going in with no idea.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: It's great, pointise, I mean, that's that's what's fun about it.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: It's you know, you knew the last couple of years
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: when you do your little fun mock drafts, you look
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: at other people's mock drafts and who they got has taken.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, last couple of years it was maybe one
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: of two guys, two to three. Maybe maybe someone got
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: crazy and said they should take astroon genty. I don't know,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: but you know, it kind of gets boring.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: You know, it's the same.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: And they took Will Campbell and they took Drake May.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: So this has been a big question. I've been asking
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: a lot of the guests that we've had what are
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: the positions that you could see maybe falling through the cracks.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: Maybe there's a run on edge and there isn't a
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: player that gets pushed down to them in that position group.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: But all of a sudden you have someone like Kenyan Sadik,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: the really mobile and the super athletic tight end from Oregon.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: He's available at thirty one. So I think that's what's
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: most interesting to me is how does it play out
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: who gets pushed down? You know, every single mock draft
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: you look at, you're going to see a different player.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: I interviewed Cynthia Freeland today from NFL Network. She had
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: a really interesting pick too. She went onto the giant
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: penetrating defensive lineman, which I like. So I think it
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: makes it more interesting for us. There are a lot
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: of different and guys that you can think about and consider.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: So do everybody, you know, fans see the workouts on TV,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: you know, in the stadium and they see the guys
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: you know, bench pressing and all that. But take us
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes, like in the corridors, Like is there
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: a lot of like you know, patriots, like you guys
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: talking to people on other teams and you know a
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: lot of that stuff going on behind you know, behind
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: the scenes.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a little bit, you know, and it's jeez.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: I mean you go out there and you see guys
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: like working up in the hallways on their forty get
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: off and you can see them like, you know, going
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: through the motions and really, you know, drilling down on
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: how important these drills are. You know, right here in
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: the convention center, you see these guys, you know, getting
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: ready and knowing how much is on the line for
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: you know, the difference between a guy running a four
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: four three or a four to three eight. I mean
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: it's you know, five thousandths of a second, but it
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: could mean millions of dollars to these guys. So in
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: it it's just the general atmosphere of Indie. Everything's going on. Yesterday,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: Peter Schrager put out on Twitter. He hyped up this
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: breakfast place, and I had had an average breakfast yesterday.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I want to get a good breakfast today.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: So I went to this this little cafe that he recommended,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: which was right there. It's been sitting right in front
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: of my stupid face for all five years that I've
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: been here before, and it was one of the best
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: breakfasts I had. But you're looking at coaches and scouts,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: you're looking at agents. I mean the place is just
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: packed with you know, people doing deals, all that kind
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: of stuff. You understand. Now, that's why a lot of
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: this groundwork for free agency and for the off season,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: it seems like it all gets laid out here. You know,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: a lot of it in the lobby of the JW
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: and places like that little cafe that I went to
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: this morning, or you know, even out in the hallways
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: here at the convention Center.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: Any coffee shop incidents with media members each other, anything
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: like that going on. That was that was like the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: big story last year, right the Starbucks.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: No, I know, I know, no no fights at Starbucks,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: and and we have been around there of course. Evan,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: you know, does frequent that at that establishment a little bit, had.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: A lot of grapes with national people this year. I'm
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: surprised he wasn't scrapping him a Starbucks.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: He's going around picking fights. I know, we're gonna go
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: try to find dann Rolovsky and you know, see if
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: we can have him Evan makeup. But I don't know.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: You guys will have to ask Evan when we get back.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: I feel like his love of the prospects.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 8: And like that.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: I think it's waned a little bit. I don't know
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: if he's if he's got the same passion for the prospects,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: You'll have to ask him that. I don't know. I
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: was like even losing his ed chair a little bit.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, listen, we'll let you get back to
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: your Shapiro sandwich.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: I didn't get one, Fred. I'm saving up for my
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: steak tonight.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, there you go, saving All right, Well, thanks Mike,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: say hello to everyone for us, and we'll see when
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: you get back. Safe travels.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: Thanks guys, We'll see you tuesday.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: All right, They're great, Mike, do so why from Indy.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: I love that Rabel was kind of ripping on him
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: and Evan.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: When they did their one on one talk three times
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 6: a week. Yeah, and then at the end of it
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: he was like, you guys should ask more questions. I
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: would love to see if the camera was still rolling,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: because you know, Vrabel continued to dig at them, like,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: you know, after the after they were off air.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: But that is, you know, that's the place to be
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: if you're a coach or scout in the NFL. That's
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: you know, where deals are made, you know in the
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: back halls, and jobs are you know, set up for
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: down the road.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: And that's why when people say, like, what's even the
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: point of the combine anymore? Guys aren't throwing some guys
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 6: aren't participating. But that's that's the reason.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: It's a convention and the most network most companies have
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: like sales kickoffs. This is like the NFL sales cipoff,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: leave the hotel and coach harbors walking right.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's the.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: Swag bags of promotional marketing material.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the closest thing to a convention that the
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: NFL has. All right, eight five five pats one hundred.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: We got some callers who have been patiently waiting. We'll
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: start with Eldred, North Carolina. What's up? Eldred?
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 8: Hey?
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 12: Alex, Hey Fred, Hey, Batist say y'all doing all right?
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 8: Hey?
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 12: I got a question?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 8: Fake.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 12: Everybody keeps saying, you know the left guard, you know,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 12: Wilson and move him to center. Okay, if he got
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 12: problem with strimp and left guard, wouldn't you think he
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 12: had a problem with strimp at the center?
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 8: Yep?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 12: Because sometime you know, you got the big dts on you.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 8: Yep, it's over again.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 12: So I don't see the I don't see the you
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 12: know the movie you know that makes it.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: It's a good point. It's a good point. If his
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: problem is strength, it will show up at center too,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: So it's a good point.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: Okay, Eldrid, did you see uh sorry, did you see
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 6: evans apology to you on Catch twenty two yesterday?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I was talking about you. I can call
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 12: you here because of the connection, and uh, I was
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 12: hearing it, but I went back and played it, and
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 12: I'm like, I kept telling you that. Yeah, but I
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 12: step I sept his apology. I said his apology like, uh,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 12: like I told him. You know, I've been I'm hoping
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 12: that who we get at thirty one because he's not
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 12: picked in the first round, but he goes in the
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 12: early second round unless he shows out on the forty,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 12: which is gonna you know, move from boot stock up anyway.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 12: But that's our ex that's another a j that's another
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 12: Mike Evans. And then then tomorrow he's to like Thomas Jacksonville.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 12: Now he's better than that. And I've been I've been watching,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 12: like said, I watched acc in sec college all the time,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 12: and that kid stood out for the last two years
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 12: for me, besides don K Thornton. But when Mendoza get
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 12: there and throw to him, they was gonna say, Eli,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 12: you're right.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: Again, Okay, all right, thanks, all right.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: We could say with Wilson it's a comfort thing and
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: not strength thing, because I think it wasn't center his
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: main position.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was in college. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, So
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: that's why I said if strength is his problem, maybe
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: for him it isn't.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 6: I think people have a lot of people have said
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 6: maybe Garrett Bradbury is getting older moved Jared Wilson to center.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: I don't know if it's that easy, because what you
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 6: would lose intellectually with Garrett Bradbury and I don't think
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: he's done anything to lose his job. I think it
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 6: has to be a competition. But if Jared Wilson goes
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: from being a starter his rookie year to then year
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: two being a depth piece behind Garrett until he's truly ready,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: I'm cool with that. I don't know if that's how
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: it play out. Yeah, but what's best. I don't know
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 6: what's best for the team, what's best for the players.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we got to figure this out. We
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: got to figure this out. It was okay for most
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: of the season, okay, but it's got to be better.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: We got to elevate this offense. Todd's in North Carolina.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: What's up, Todd?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 10: Hey, this is the heartless Canadian sociopath calling in to
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 10: congratulate the team America, both the ladies and the men's
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 10: on their hockey victory.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if you didn't cry in Canada, it's a little
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: different than what I was saying. Todd, Come on, it's
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 6: okay talking about Americans.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 10: I'm going to get it's true.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: It is true.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 10: So now I want to get back to what happened
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 10: last year when we got favorl in. We set some
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 10: expectations and I kind of really have embraced the brave away.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 10: Last year, I was hoping that we'd get d eight
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 10: wins and oh my god, did we last past At
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 10: this year, with the schedule, I got a different idea.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 10: I'm not targeting winds. I want to see play. I
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 10: want to see effort for a full sixty minutes. I
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 10: want to see all four quarters, and I want to
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 10: see us to be feisty. I want, you know, the
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 10: people who play us that aren't in our division go,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 10: Thank god we don't have to see them again. I
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 10: want to see a feistiness there. So you know, I
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 10: know we started setting expectations last year when Rabel got in.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 10: I don't think it's too early to just have some
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 10: base ones.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 11: What are yours?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Thanks, guys?
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: All right, My my baseline expectation or hope is to
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: win the East again. Yeah, I mean, that's what I
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: want to do. I don't I know it's a tougher schedule,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: but it's going to be a tougher schedule for the
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: Bills too, and for the Jets and the Dolphins. We're
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: all playing the same conference divisions, and I think we
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: should come out on top of the East.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if you won the East last year,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: the bar has to be that again, minimal, right.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: And then you know, I'm not saying we're going to
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: get to the super Bowl again. The chances of that
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: are pretty slim. But you know, I think there's a
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: good chance that we win the East again.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: You want to host a playoff game?
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Yeahs fair.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: At least let's do it at least one.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: Bethany is in Ontario. I wanted to write in with
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: praise for Alex. She's been a great addition to the team,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: with far better insights than those allowed to wear a jersey.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: What does that mean? Who talk about Deuce?
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 6: Maybe Deuce when he wears jerseys or maybe just I
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: don't know, because me and MLB have feelings about grown
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: men that were jerseys of other men.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: I really enjoyed hearing her on Tuesday show. Sometimes she
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: gets quiet when the whole crew is there, so it
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: was great to hear her and what she had to say.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: So kudos to Alex and don't be afraid to speak
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: over the guys. Chris was also a great addition, but
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: hasn't been there enough to get flowers. So what did
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: you say on Tuesday that was so? Maybe?
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't think I said anything that profound.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: I think it was just I don't know. Sometimes when
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 6: Evan's here and you guys are here, I have so
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 6: much respect for you guys and your insight and how
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 6: long you've been here, and I don't always feel like
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: I I don't know. I don't want to interrupt the
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: flow conversation sometimes, but when it's just the three of us.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: It's tough to room, you know.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: But Chris Cassidy did a great job. I thought he
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: crushed it this week.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, So what did you guys talk about?
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: A lot of Elliott stuff?
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 6: It was mostly coming out of Elliott's press conference, team building,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 6: a little bit of the dig stuff, But honestly, the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: biggest topic I feel like was Will Campbell and just
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 6: them buying into him at left tackle.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: And we got a little off the rails, so we
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: talked a little. We talked a little hockey and Olympics,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: and it was like it was a good mix.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: I know you were very you were very touched with
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: that win.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: I was, you know, I was touched with the bringing
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: the good Drow kids on. I thought that was so nice.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was nice.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: The psycho the sociopath comment was mostly a dig up, Paul, See.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: I know it was a great win. It was great
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: to win the goal. But I don't put it up
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: there like some of you kids are doing, because like
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: it's different now it's pros playing pros. It's not such
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: a big achievement to beat Canada. I mean, we have
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: good pros too in the NHL. In the eighty when
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: we beat Russia. It was literally kids playing grown men,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: professionals against Russia. That was like amazing.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: I wasn't alive for that though them. You know, I
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: was miracle and I loved it.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: You know, I was a freshman in college when it happens,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: and that was you know, like that was unbelievable. This
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: was very believable. The USA was the number two seed.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: It wasn't like, you know, so like it's just good
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: to be Canada. You hadn't done it in a long time.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: I didn't know they had won the gold. Yeah, forty
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: six years.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: But I don't care. Like the Olympics, I love it.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: I love watching the parents. It makes me cry.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 6: No, that's I think it's just what is cooler than
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 6: winning a medal for your country?
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that's just like the pinnacle
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: of sport to me?
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 6: Is it? I don't know, you know, as a female
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 6: that would be for me because the level of professionals
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: before I could play that.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: If you're like in skiing or something like that, absolutely,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: But if you're an NBA player, like, isn't the Stanley
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: Cup the pinnacle?
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think spit and Chickless brought that.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: I was like, would these guys trade their gold for
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: a Stanley Cup?
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: Probably?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: Not?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 6: Again, I think I look at it differently because as
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 6: a woman, that's the furthest you can.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: Get, you know, And it's just no like certain sports.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: I hear you that.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 6: That and the emotional tie in with the goodrow yeah, ingle,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 6: and then I just had a lot of pride.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: For how many Massachusetts ties were on that team.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: Yep, it's good, Yep, that was good.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: My friend Connor the presidential.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: Let's not go there all right, crazy time, David writes
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: in I have to comment on something Paul has been
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: saying the last couple of shows. When a caller calls
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: in and says they like a player, but not for
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: a crazy amount of money, Paul snarkily responds, saying, you
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: don't like the player, citing the player's performance being why
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: you wouldn't want to pay him, not the contract. While
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not on while I'm on his side in general,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: I have to provide an admittedly extreme example, Paul, how
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: do you feel about Dak Prescott? I personally think he's
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: pretty decent. Would you pay him sixty million dollars? A year.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: I personally wouldn't. I think he's a good quarterback, but
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: not a sixty million dollar player. Some players aren't worth
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: a crazy high price tag. I understand the cap is
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: crap mentality, but at some point you have to be
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: mindful of your cap situation. So here we get into
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: the semantics argument.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Is he saying Paul wouldn't pay him or the writer?
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: No, he David says he wouldn't pay Dak Prescott.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: I think Paul would, Yeah, because I agree with Paul
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: on this is that the market's the market, right, Like
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: if I think Jason Jackson a couple of years ago,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: they didn't pay him, but like that's what the market
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: was for a cornerback.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: I think that's Paul's point is if you don't want
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: to pay Dak Prescott what the market is bearing, yeah,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: then you don't really like this Dak Prescott. You don't
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: think he's good enough.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's fair, you know.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: So that's it's a semanna thing. But I understand what
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: Paul is saying that if you really like the guy
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: and you want him, you got to pay what the
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: market is bearing. Yeah, that's it, that's it.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: Comments what the price Tag says that, and even Marcus right.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: So, and take Gonzales for example, if you love him,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: you're gonna have to pay him. What is it, forty
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: million dollars now for an elite cornerback. So if you
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: don't want to pay Gonzales forty million dollars, you don't
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: like you don't think he's that good.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: And if you want, if you want to pay him,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: you better do it now because it's gonna be more
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: extensive next year. What I was the name the Panthers
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: cornerback J C. Horn. I don't think he's that much,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: but that's what the market is.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: Make sure you again have Drake.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, so I.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: Get what Paul saying. I get what Paul saying.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 6: Interesting to see how quickly they try to get Gonzo
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 6: signed after the new lead year.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: Another thing is what other corners are up, because I
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: think gonzill one of the best corners of the league.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: If not, he'll probably the market.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: But that being said, if a player who's worse sets
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: the market, then you're gonna have to pay him more.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: So pay Gonzo early, right, yeah right, No matter what
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: you're paying him now, in two or three years, it'll
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: be chump change. Yeah, you know, it's crazy. It's just
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: the way it works, Just the way it works.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: If you thought our inflation was that just trying to
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: live and be happy, the.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Old regime might have just tagged Gonzo and then we're
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: just going into the cycle of that.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: There were a couple of moments in Tom Brady's career
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: where he was the highest paid quarterback in the NFL,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: but it went.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 8: By like that.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think an interesting thing with Gonzo's
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: contract is the health because I don't think he's played
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: a full season yet, so that's the only thing I
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: think the team could maybe try to get some money
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: back on it.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: But that was how long the season went.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, agree, Joe writes in in Michigan. One other
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: factor that has to be considered in the free agent
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: free for all is the what ifs. What if Buffalo
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: gets a j Brown across they are your closest competitor.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: They are getting close to desperation mode with Josh Allen
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: in a Super Bowl. Don't teams sometimes make moves to
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: prevent other teams from getting a guy. I'm sure Belichick
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: did that more than once. Well, not at that level.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: You don't You don't go give up big assets and
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: pay big money for Max Crosby just to prevent the
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: Patriots from getting them. You have to really want them,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: you know. So if that's how you're running your organization,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: I'm glad you're in our division because we're going to
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: beat your ass every year, you know. I think that's
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: what happened when Brady was here, And Paul kind of
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: laughs every time I say it, But Tom Brady forced
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: the other teams in the AFC East to make bad
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: decisions that.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: They're always in a hole.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: And you know.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: Scenario if you're the Jetsy over because we're going to
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: get him. So ye so yeah, But that that that
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: being said, if AJ Brown or Justin Jefferson is available,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: I would hope we would make the trade. If Buffalo
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: is willing to make it, I hope we'd be willing
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: to make that.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Like if it's if it's two picks for
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: for Justin Jefferson.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: Right, if you were their agent at that player, you
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: want you set up that bidding ward between the Patriots,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: and so you let the Patriots know that the Bills
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: are interested, and you let the Bills know the Patriots
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: are interested so you can what.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 6: Do you think is more desirable if you're a free agent? Well,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 6: what position if you're a free agent, just anyition, what
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 6: team would you rather?
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: Patriots have a young quarterback, They just came off a
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: super Bowl, great coach, getting a new facility, you got
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: a player, coach guy, that seems But.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 6: I think we have a little bit better than There's.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: A little bit of uncertainty in Buffalo in terms of
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: the coach coach. You know, nobody knows if Joe Brady's
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: going to be a good head coach. The new stadium
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: is fine, but the facility, I think is the same.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: If you're in Buffalo, you're getting snow during the season.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: We get after, we have the ocean.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: Honestly, Like there's a few good restaurants in Buffalo, but really,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: you don't want to live in Buffalo. Yeah you live
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: there because.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: You have to Joshua Allen Yeah yeah, well she doesn't
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: even live there, right Like.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: So I think right now, I think I think I
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: think the Patriots have an advantage over destination when it
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: comes to you know, taxes are high in New York too,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: so that's the same. You know, now Miami has a
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: leg up when it comes to destination, but are not.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: Going to win.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: They don't, and who's going to be their quarterback?
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: They're starting They're literally starting over. It's crazy to see.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 6: Like my first game I covered here was Tuha Tyreek
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 6: Water before the concussion and that September game down in
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 6: Miami Week one, and just it's just that's the NFL
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 6: for you, how quick things can change.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: Darius and Louisville Wright saying, hey, Alex, when you have
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: aj Brown, you give him seven to eight targets, no problem.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: If you don't, then you have a problem with your offense. Okay,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: and you know seven eight targets will probably satisfy him. Yeah,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: And I think there's enough to go around for Diggs
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: in that scenario.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: So I you know, I think Diggs's mentality changed, which
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: is how we saw him grow as a player. But like,
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: when's the last time we had a receiver in New
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: England being upset that it didn't enough targets. I kind
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: of like that with my number one.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: And don't forget last year a lot of the games
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: that Drake had really good games, you only threw the
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: ball like twenty something times. Yeah, you know, like we
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: weren't a pass happy team. Next year, I expect that
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: to go up. I expect him to be throwing over
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: thirty times a game, you know, I hope.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I expect this. I think the Saints game was
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: kind of well, the Bills too, but the Saints game
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: was like, Oh, this kid has a cannon to all
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: those deep balls, Like I want to see that every week.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: Let's see what is who is this? CJ and Minnesota?
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: He says. If I'm Mike Vrabel, my pitch to Digs
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: is simple, take a pay cut and you have a
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: path to the NFL Hall of Fame. He is realistically three,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: maybe four productive seasons away from being firmly in the
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. Conversation, volume matters, longevity matters, and consistent
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: production into your mid thirties is what separates haul of
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: very good from Canton receivers. Side note, he also has
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: one of the most iconic TD catches of all time,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: the Minnesota Miracle. Remember that one. Let's look at the math.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: If dig simply repeats his twenty twenty five season over
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: the next three years, that eighty five catches oney thirteen
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: yards for touchdowns. His career totals would project to eleven
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: hundred and ninety seven receptions, fourteen thousand, five hundred and
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: forty three yards, eighty seven touchdowns. And then he compares
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: it to guys who are in the Hall of Fame,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: and they that compares very favorably. I'm not going to
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: go down the list on volume alone, Diggs would be
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: right there statistically in some categories ahead. So he's saying
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: that that's your pitch. Yeah, So he said, instead of
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: asking him to carry the offense, you put him in
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: a position to age into greatness.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: I think realistically are looking at one more like very
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: above average year of Stefan Diggs, just with age and
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: career and hits and injuries. But like he needs to
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: decide if he wants to, you know, keep growing his
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: bank account or if he wants to win, and that's
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: a decision for the player.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 6: But from everything he said, and just like reading the tea,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 6: like if you're going to take what he's said at
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: face value, I think he values the situation here, and
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 6: I think he's at a point in his career where
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 6: he's thinking long term. He's not necessarily thinking like ego,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 6: Like he's looking at the bigger picture.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: Tyler from Ludlow says, I have a game for the
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: gen Z team. I guess one of us not include it.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: A clue what you millennials?
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 8: All right?
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: Anyway, A clue is given that ties two names together,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: such as a sixteenth century English explorer that finished second
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: in m VP voting this year. So the answer would
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: be Sir Francis Drake may So you kind of have
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: need to know some some book stuff here, I think. Anyway,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: So here's the next one. I don't know if anyone
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: will get it. The best friend of Corey Matthews in
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: Boy Meets World that also catches passes. So I don't
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: know who Matthews is. I love Boy Meets the Punter Henry. Well,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: that's that's true.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: Wasn't the brother's name hunter? Or the best friend's name
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: was Hunter?
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: So yeah, you have to know the best friend's name.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: Who's the best Corey's best friend was the name Hunter?
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: Wasn't he? Okay?
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 6: I couldn't remember if it was the brother?
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: The best was the first?
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 6: There?
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: Hunter was his first name?
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 8: Oh?
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: Really? Okay?
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 14: No?
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: So the answer the answer he has is Sean Hunter,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: Henry Shawn Hunter saw Hunter? Okay? So sounded so sure
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: of yourself over there.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 6: That's why I didn't think the best friend's name of Okay.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, next one, so you understand the concept, all right.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: A McDonald's burger that calls for the Warriors to come
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: out and play Mac Big Mac mccollins, Big Mac Collins.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 8: There you go.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: Good God, Alex's the greatest Patriots lineman of all time.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: That also moonlights is Miley Cyrus's alter ego. So what's
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: her alter ego? John Hannah Hannah Mont John Hannah Mont Good,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: I think we're.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: Two more a former team quarterback drafted with Drake meets
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: a current player that rushes the quarterback will yeah, there
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: you go. And then finally, a band with the hit
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: song Rihannan that was also a first round quarterback with
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: the patriotswood Leetwood Mac Jones. There you go, Rhannon, I
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: said it wrong.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: Great song, probably my favorite one.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so that was good.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 8: Good.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: Tyler a couple more The Lions huh go love the Lions.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: Tyler from Ludlow, Okay, Brendan and Edmonton. He says, I
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: want no part of aj Brown at the price I
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: think he'll cost after watching him last year. I don't
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: think he can run or separate. I would rather invest
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: the resources and someone we can develop and take on
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: the risk of them not being the developed player.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: The asking price, the price they'll get.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: I just feel like we've been doing that for the
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: past six years. Like I think, if you get it,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: if you can get a j Brown, you go get him.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, Daniel and Dunned in Florida, how would you feel
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: about giving Mike Evans a two or three year deal
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: and then at tight end draft Oscar delt from Georgia
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: see any good?
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: I haven't done my tight end yeh, that's a question.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: But the Mike Evans stuff, we could have used him
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: years ago. But I think he's thirty three. Yeah, Like,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: I think he's.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 13: More of a like.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: I could see him on the bills, honestly, but I
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: just don't think a thirty three year old helps us.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: Jacket and Arbor wants to note. Did I just hear
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: Mike Rabil say that he has an open check book
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: to sign free agents. I don't think so.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think so either.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna go at it.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: Logically, they're not just gonna close their eyes and swipe
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 6: their credit card.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: And so I don't know if Rabel sees it the
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: same way as Belichick used to. But Belichick was very
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: aware of the locker room dynamic in terms of contracts. Yeah,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: you know, like if he felt this guy was better
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: than this guy, he would make sure that the contracts
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: lined up, and he would reward guys like you know, ah,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: you know, name some of the guys Tully, Bantacin or whatever.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: But he would he would reward guys with contracts who
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: were his guys and to show the other players, like,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: if you do it my way, this is what you'll get.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: But there was a hierarchy in his locker room in
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: terms of who made what, because every player knows what
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: everybody else is making. It's no secret. It's all out there.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if Rabel's the same way. It'll
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: be interesting. Spi in Fresno says, please Fred, please rank
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: in order these products. Aaron's Speed Queen nut Wizard, and
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: it includes slope with a soap with a slot for
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: good measure. So a nut wizard is like somebody gave
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: it to me. It's it's a device for picking up acorns.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: You ever see like the bingo cages.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it looks like a bingo cage on a
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: broomstick and you roll it on your lawn in it
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: and it picks up acorns in it. So I was
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: complaining like twenty years ago, like we had this amazing
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: season where there were just tons of acorns, and so
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: somebody sent me this nut. It's called the nut Wizard.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: Why do you want to pick up the acorns?
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, they're all over your lawn. Okay, yeah, you can't
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: have that. It's not good for your lawn.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: The squirrels don't take them. Okay, it's not good for it.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: Well, the squirrels did, and then you get an abundance
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: of squirrels and it's like a whole ecosystem station. Yeah.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: So anyway, right now, Aaron's like like, like, you know
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: the job that it did over the last few days.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 6: Not to mention you kept it outside all all year.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just right, it's just a tarp. I don't even
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: put it in a garage.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: Are you going to build it a garage? After what
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: it did for you?
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: This needs a little workshop.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 7: For him.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: It really has earned a shed. Is on my top
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: and speed Queen Love love the speed queen. Uh in
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: not words that I never have had to use it
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: because once they scent it, I never had the acorn
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: problem again, third or fourth after and the slot doesn't
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: it doesn't, it doesn't exist. But you know, okay us,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: he says, slightly concerned that Paul's absence for a funeral
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: will disincline you all from the time honored tradition of
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: trash talking the pfw p U absentee. Perhaps Eric finally
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: got eaten by a Yemeny rescue dog. Uh, that would
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: be a great story anyway, Please don't hold back, as
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: I'm sure the dearly departed would approved. Some pp jokes
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: related question for Fred as far as you can recall,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: has Paul always had the martyrdom complex where he imagines
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: people are attacking his right to have an opinion? Or
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: is that an artifact of the aging weight flux situation process. No,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: he's always been that way. Yeah, like you know everyone,
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: he can't. He's the only one that can't have an opinion.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: But of course he's the one that has more opinions
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: than anyone.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm an Italian joke.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: He wouldn't like.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh, so go ahead, just it's the same thing
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 6: he says about Italians, like everyone can only rag on
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 6: Italians and they can't say anything back.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like his that's just it's to cross that.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: It's terrible.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: It's terrible. Boston Cream rights. Boston Cream writes in hey guys,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: and tudo bem to Alex, what is tudo bem to?
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 10: Like?
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: It's not Latin, it's what's good? No tudo bee Portuguese? Okay,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: okay okay. Fred as a tennis bro, have you gotten
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: behind the pickleball trend? No, no, hard no, no, it's
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: an abomination. I hate pick a ball sucks, sucks.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: So you're not gonna go to the place.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 3: Up the hill? Hell no, hell no.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 6: He's a rocket purist.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: Kind of seems like at your current numerical age, that
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: might be something you would dominate.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: Never never tennis, You use it until you lose.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: Like although April seventeenth, I'm going under the knife getting
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: my achilles fixed and a bone spur removed, so I'll
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: be out of action for a lease.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: What did you do to your achilles?
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 3: It's just over time, it's just messed up, really like
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: a piece of elastics. Yeah, like if I if I
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: go full throttle, it'll snail. Yeah, it's it's on its
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: way out.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: So and Daniel Jones, they're gonna fix that.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: And they're gonna there's a bone spur there in the
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: same foot, so they're going to take care of that. Yeah.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: But I'm going to be out of action for probably
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: eight weeks.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 14: So what will you do?
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: Can you like sit in a chair and still.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm gonna get the scooter. I don't
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: want to crutches.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: The screen with the scooter.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So April seventeenth, I'm going.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: Under the knife as giving you a scooter.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: Aaron's do they make big orange scooter?
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 7: Maybe you could make a scooter to Toyota dot com
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 7: to make you a scooter. What did you say, buy
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 7: a Toyota dot Com can make you a scooter?
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, there you go.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe Bob's Furniture can make them a scooter, you know,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: a nice collapsible one. Yeah, all right, Dustin right Sin.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: Looking to the tampering period, how likely do you think
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: the Patriots make a huge splash on offense rather than
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: the speculation of trading for Max Crosby personally, I think
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: the defense is great and could be bolstered through the draft.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: Let's get a J Brown. P S. I love you, Paul,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: don't ever change. So we haven't even mentioned Crosby on
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: this show. He's another one that seems to love the
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: Patriots and Mike Crable.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: I'm a big Max Crosby guy.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: I'd love to get Max Cross.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: I think according to Rassini he's a big Rabel guy.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: You're gonna apparently the Raiders are asking for to first
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, so I do. I don't hope we're
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: in a situation where is it between like the receiver
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: like AJ and Crosby, because then you y'at pick one.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: I want them both, but I just don't know that's realistic.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: L from Wisconsin says, I'm all in on AJ Brown.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: I think I'm a bit scarred still from the wide
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: receivers this team is drafted that going all in on
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 3: a known commodity is the best path forward. Plus, I
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: think his skill set just matches so well with what
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: it feels like Drake wants to do.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: It would be awesome.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't want me calling him a red
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 6: flag to take away from the fact that I would
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 6: be jumping up and down.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: I don't really broke that they were doing that all
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: about you, But I don't really value the picks as much.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: Like there's a very good chance that AJ Brown Jefferson
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: are going to be at them. Yeah, he's there's a
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: good chance for the next three maybe not next year's
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: draft class because the wide receiver class is insane, but
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: there's a good chance that those players are going to
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: be better than most of the wide receivers you draft.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: So why use the pick? Just get the sure thing?
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. I've always said that, you know, like
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: at you know, is he better than the draft pick?
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: And thirty one A J. Brown is better than the
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: thirty first draft pick.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 6: Now, if they're going to make a big trade like that,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 6: would you rather it be for Crosby or AJ Brown?
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: So what's more important to you? To me, it's just Crosby, Yeah,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: it's but I do think, yeah, it well, it depends
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: if you don't resign Chase On or like you need
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: the edge rusher, Like, yeah, that's an important one.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: Let's see Eric and fort me Maryland. Thank you for
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: your service. There's been rumors in the Internet that the
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: Bears could be starting to move DJ More not a
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: bad little player.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: I fine, I just don't he doesn't move the needle
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: like one of those guys.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: In the second half last year, he seemed to be
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: getting fewer targets behind Colston Lovelin and was behind Roma
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: Dunza in the first half of the season. It could
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: be that More, in his twenty million dollar plus cap
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: hit are at best a third or fourth target behind
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: at Dunsay, Colston and possibly Lutha Burden, who saw a
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: lot more action in the latter part of the season.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: More is the same age as AJ Brown, can play
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 3: the x or z and as a team captain as
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: opposed to being a disgruntled diva. I mean that Bears
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: offenses loaded. Yeah, so you could see where he might
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: be the odd man out.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: You know, I think a Brian Thomas junior would be
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: more entertaining to me personally than DJ Moore. But that's
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: just me. That's a twenty three year old stud, young
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: receiver who just headed down in the year.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: But would they want to part Like, yeah, will they
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: want to give him up?
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's the question.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: Excuse me, Mike and Winchester, Virginia and Speed New Jersey.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: Was that Saddlebrook? Maybe s B New Jersey? I don't know,
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: Guy South Brunswick, I'm not sure. A few quick points. First,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: I think this old line talk is crazy. Campbell needs
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 3: to get a real off season under his belt to
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: work on strength and wait at the NFL level. Just
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: get the kids some skinless chicken and he'll be fine.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: Second off season needs to be focused on getting a
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: wr one in an edge one ye with that third
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 3: three seasons. Three years ago, Houston was thriving and everyone
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: was head over heels with Stroud. Now a few days
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: ago at the Combine, their GM had to tell reporters
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: they weren't going to trade him this offseason. They've gone
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 3: backwards a lot in the last few years. How do
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: we protect Drake's development and avoid slipping back like Houston.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: It's a good question. I mean, you don't want that regression, Darling,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: But maybe Stroud wasn't good at that good to begin with.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: I think Stroud split with his OC right was it
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: Lowick and they got there he left like I think,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: you keep things stable and you keep Josh McDaniels, and
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: you keep the nucleus you have. I think that's one
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: of the issues of Mac Jones. He went through three coordinators.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: Keep the coordinator. Yeah, he showed success with it. That's
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: how you keep them wrong.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: Lastly, today's my thirty second birthday. O. Happy birthday, Mike
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 3: and Winchester. I've come to realize I've now been listening
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: to you guys for half of my life. First time
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: I found PFW was after the twenty twelve playoff loss.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 3: Is there any way I can get a T shirt?
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: I won one during the Trivia Conscience two years ago,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: but I received an excel instead of a small medium
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: I asked for, and as a result haven't been able
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: to wear it.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 12: Matt.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 3: So, Matt, we had left? Oh, I just oh, I
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: have a box. I have tons of them now, Yeah,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: but the ones in my office are just Excels, I think.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: But get the man a T shirt?
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: We got you?
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: Do you have the email? Yes? I have this, all right,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: So get Mike and Winchester.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: You shall receive all right, Um, got some mediums upstairs.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: So this is a good question. And you just mentioned
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas junior Claudio in Brazil. Which wide receiver gives
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: the best chance to win in twenty twenty six between A. J.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: Brown and Brian Thomas Junior.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: I say, A J.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: Brown, Yeah, assuming you can keep everybody. Yeah, yeah, Kieran
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: rights in from London. Oh, by the way, they announced
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: the London games, and there's a chance that we could
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 3: play there because.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: It would be Jacksonville that cash up again, right.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: Right, because we did play Jacksonville there already, right.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: We could also do Germany hypothetically, right.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 3: Well, Munich is still on the table as a home
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 3: or away away. We can't be a home.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: Do you want to be a home team internationally this year?
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: No? Nope, So it could it could happen.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: This is quite like we'd be an away team in Germany.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: But it's it's our market right.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: Right, so right, so yeah, we would still do a
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: lot of stuff there. Karen says, love listening to you guys,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: blah blah blah. Intrigued by Mike Reese's comments about Brian
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: Thomas being a potential trade candidate or target, a respected
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: quality journalist journalists like Mike does not come up with
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: that name out of nowhere. Yeah, would love for us
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: to trade for Thomas or A J.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 8: Brown.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 3: What would be the most you would trade for either
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: of them. In terms of draft picks.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: It's interesting because the first is so late.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: See, I would try to get you know, creative. Yeah,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: you know, like move into like next year maybe yeah,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: you know, because you make the case to the team, Hey,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 3: we'll probably be yeah, we're gonna probably be better next year.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: We've got a tough schedule this year, you're going to
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: get the thirty first. Next year a second rounder could
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: be you know, much higher in the second round.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: Or you never know what these trades because I think
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: when Hopkins left the Cardinals didn't get traded for like
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: a third, So like everybody's like, oh, this might be
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: a first, but then oh it's a third and a player. Yep,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: I do that, So yep, it's interesting. But I think
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: the first, it would be a first. They'd want to first,
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: just knowing that our first is late, so you got
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: think of it as a fanly, Oh it's just a second, yeah, yep.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: Uh. Do you guys think with the depth and edge
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: in the draft that it may shift players down the
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: board as teams think they can wait to draft an edge,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: So that raises the possibility of waiting till Day two
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 3: to get one and perhaps using our first round pick
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 3: to draft a position that might have slightly less depth.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: Kind of depends where the run happens.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 6: Once one or two go, they're all just gonna go
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 6: like hotcakes.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: Yep, yep, let's see Chris from New Hampshire. Typically I
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: write in assaulting callers. However, I'm taking a break from
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 3: my noble crusade to address a major concern I have
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: about this offseason, and that's the that the scouting department
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 3: has been banned from UNC. Being denied access to that
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: star studded powerhouse I fear will lead to a disastrous draft.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: Why is no one talking about this? Neither Wolf nor
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 3: Vrabel were even asked about this at the combine. It's
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: a good point. I know he's only kidding. I know
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 3: he's only kidding, But I think the ban was lifted.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: Hope, So was it?
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: I think so? Jack In and Arbor says, Fred is right.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 3: The Patriots need a number one receiver, But what the
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: Patriots need more is to fix their offensive line. The
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: Patriots should use their first round pick on an offensive lineman.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: The Patriots may need to wait until twenty twenty seven
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 3: to get their number one receiver certainly if you're looking
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: for the draft. I don't think you're going to get
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: a number one receiver in the draft. I really don't,
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 3: at least not where we pick.
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  Speaker 14: It.
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  Speaker 1: Just it stinks as a fan, like and it's happened before,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: Like you wait all this time for football and then
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: you take a guard or a tackle.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: It's just well, what do you think? I mean, you
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 3: can't sit here and say you know you need to
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: make the line better and then not do anything. Be
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: unhappy if they pick a guard at thirty one. You
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 3: know you can't say both things.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: Hey, I might just be scarred from our previous guard
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: we took.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: But right, you just get to get the right one. Everyone,
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: you gotta get the right one. But assuming that you do,
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: I won't complain if they pick a guard at thirty one.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: At thirty one, but yeah, all right. But also you
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: want to know what stinks is that when we made
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: that trade with Strange, we did the trade back. We
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: passed over Tyler Tyler Lindabough I know, and now he's no.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 3: They affed up. They took the wrong guy and they
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 3: paid too much for him. If you Strange in the
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: fourth round, no one would be saying anything.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: Were going to do.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let me tell you something. I don't care what
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: mcsha McVeigh said. Afterwards, they were laughing at us under
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: the clip. They were laughing at us for taking him
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: in the first round. No disrespectacle, strange, great guy. I
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: hope he has a long career in the NFL, but
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 3: he wasn't a first round talent.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 5: I agree we screwed up, we did.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't think he's upset, he's generational wealth,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: he's all good.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: They were laughing at us, and deservedly, so, yeah, we
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: just can't do that again. But pick the right guard
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: at thirty one. I I'll be fine with that. Plug
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: him in to your point, to your point. Now you've
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 3: got a rookie again next to two, right, so you
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 3: got that same problem.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, no, it's uh, it's Russ. But
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: if you got to make the pick, do it. I
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: just would rather have it be a mid round pick
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: for a guard.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I hate doing this game, but like, what
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: position would you pick at thirty one?
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: Edge edge edge or if and listen, I haven't done
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: all my my draft research yet, but like if that
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: if it's something like the kid from Oregon. The tight
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: end drops like, I'd take that in a heart beat.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 3: So best position level other than quarterback?
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah really this year? Honestly, I trade the pick. I
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: try to make the trade and get okay, trade down up?
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: Or do I just trade yeah? If you're getting all
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: the way thirty one, i'd trade down yeah, or you
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: try to get the vet through.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The only way to trade up is bundle in.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I don't think there's any lot of assets.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: Probably in twenty twenty seven, and you don't want to
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 3: do that yet.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: Well, if if aj Brown is available for your first
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: in your fourth, yeah or your third, yeah, do it.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, money, you're not trading up, you're trading out, yes,
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: trading out, trading out, trading out.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 6: Edge and tight end are two needs that by all
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 6: accounts very deeped in talent in this class. So just
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 6: hopefully it works out like it did last year for them.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 6: And yeah, the guy they want is there when they
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 6: need him.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go back to the ag. It's not it.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: It's just a hotline, unsponsored hot line sponsorship listening. We
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: need How many times do I mention the hotline every show?
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: Why doesn't it have a sponsor. Oliver is in Denver.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: What's up, Oliver? Oliver?
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 16: Yes, Yeah, Hype Patriots filtered crew checking in a bit
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 16: late off seasons idea. I was trying to rack my
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 16: head with the Warriors call that Rabel was putting out
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 16: the team, And the best answer I've got for it
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 16: is that he was trying to pull out the Warriors
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 16: of the Patriots. So he knew he was the guy
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 16: that was trying to entice the Warriors to come out
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 16: to fight. And that's the best answer that I got
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 16: for the Warriors change.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: So right, okay, So I mean that's plausible because I
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: know there was some pushback on the Warriors because in
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 3: the movie.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: Warriors right lose, right, what they lose?
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: It's these other guys that are being hunted by the Warriors.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: Ye no, no, no, wait, so Warriors come out to play.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 3: The bad guys were saying that about the.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: Warriors, who were the underdogs.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: The Warriors were the underdogs and they ended up winning.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: But the guys saying Warriors come out to play were
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: the guys who lost. So this pushback in the Patriots
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 3: and mccollins of Rabel's saying Warriors come out to play
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 3: because in the movies, the gang that says that lost,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: which kind of what happened with us. But but I
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 3: think I think what Oliver is saying might be plausible.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 3: Like he was saying, warriors this time of year, come
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 3: out to play, you know, and he was you know,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 3: you heard him many times saying that this Big Dogs
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 3: come out in January. You know. But there's not a
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: movie called Big Dogs.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: You can't do that.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: It's a terrible movie. I was. I was old enough
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: to see it in the theater. It was schmall sy
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: it was. It was awful.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: Really, Oh yeah, would described like this cult classic.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of so bad. That's why it's
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 3: a cult classic.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: When you saw you you thought it was gonna be
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: good because you saw in theaters.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. Back then, you went to the movies
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 3: every week. Yeah, you know. That was a thing to
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: do as a kid. You go to the movies. Now
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: do you go, Well, you're kid, you're not really kids anymore.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: But I love high school.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 3: My high schoolers go to the movie theater.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 6: I used to love to every week, if not twice
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 6: a week. My friends five dollars Tuesdays. Oh my god,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 6: hit that up all the time.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: Good Slate coming this summer. So you go to the
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 3: Cape Cod Mall, you hang out. They had the theater
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: in the back. You go to the movie theater one
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: Fleet driving. Yes, but I don't know if kids go
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 3: to the movie theater anymore.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 6: Do kids have the attention spans for movies anymore?
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: There are people that watch movies just through TikTok. Yeah,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: they watched they watched the clips and they just like,
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: like sixty sixty clips.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 3: That's sad, insane.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 8: It is.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: See it's sad.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 6: And now the sad thing is like our movie is
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 6: going to start being They are like scripts are being
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 6: written and movies are being produced for those attention spans
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 6: in mind.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 3: It's terrible.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 7: I took my kids to the theater last week and
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 7: it was packed with kids. Okay, what you say, goat
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 7: basketball movie for kids. Okay, it's like this generation Space jam.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 7: Steph Curry's movie Good Good to Know, Good to Know.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 7: But you know, it has to be an appreciation of
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 7: the art.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of work that goes into making a movie.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 3: You know. I saw that movie with DiCaprio and Sean
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 3: Penn another.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: I watched it on the plane. I watched it on
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: the plane of the Super Bowl.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: Finally, it was great, watch it the way the director
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: intended on the little screen exactly.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 3: So did you see Sinners?
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah? No, not yet.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: Which one did you like better?
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: I didn see the other one?
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, One Battle after Another is a better movie.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: Sinners is just a fun movie.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think One Battle after Another was a better movie.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on my list.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's worth it.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: It's probably the best movie I've seen in a while.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, Sean Penn's unbelievable. He becomes you know, like Paul
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 3: laughs at me, like I didn't even know that with
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: Sean Penn. He was so acting so well, And Paul
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: always laughs at me when I say things like that,
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, like he becomes the character,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: like it's you know, I thought.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: The young girl was really good in that too.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 6: Oh every biller, but you'll know what I'm talking about
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 6: the scene on the hill with the car where Shet Yeah,
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 6: so good.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: And you know DiCaprio, I think everything he's in as good. Yeah,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 3: he's really good.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: So I just watched Catch Me.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 6: If you can recently and I was just like, oh man,
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 6: this is such a one of the I love that movie,
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 6: Like it's just so so good and the fact that
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 6: it's all true story is just great movie.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 3: All Right, Well, listen, wouldn't be an off season if
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 3: we didn't, you know, veer off the course a little.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: Bit the last five minutes.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Combine continues. More stuff coming out on Patriots dot
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• 1:58:57
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• 1:59:00
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