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Born Racer, Gone in 60 Seconds, No Man's Land & Lost Bullet - Reviewed! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Grand Touring Motorsports started as a social group of car enthusiasts,
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  but we've expanded into all sorts of motorsports disciplines, and we
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  want to share our stories with you.
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  Years of racing, wrenching, and motorsports experience brings
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  together a top notch collection of knowledge and information
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  through our podcast, Brake Fix.
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  What's going on everyone, and welcome to another installment of Brake Fix.
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  I'm your host, Brad, aka The Triple Six.
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  With me, as always, is our co host, Eric.
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  On today's episode, we're going to do a movie mixed bag, a review of four
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  different car adjacent movies, Board Racer, the biopic about IndyCar legend
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  Scott Dixon, the original cult classic Gone in 60 Seconds from 1974, No Man's
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  Land, starring Charlie Sheen and D.
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  B.
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  Sweeney from 1987, and finally, Lost Bullet, a French film that debuted
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  during the pandemic on Netflix in 2020.
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  With us tonight is a panel of GTM members, Crutch, Chrissy, Mountain
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  Man Dan, Tanya, and the first lady of GTM, Jessica, to join us tonight
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  to discuss all these different films.
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  And with that, let's get into it.
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  So first up, we have Born Racer.
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  Well, one, it was a fitting timing to watch that since Scott Dixon has
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  actually won the first three races this season for the, uh, the pandemic season.
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  But I think it actually did a really good job of balancing the The commitment
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  that's involved in being a professional race car driver and the risks that are
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  involved and how their family deals with those risks because they touched on
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  some of the tragic incidents that have happened in the past and Scott Dixon's
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  horrible crash in the 2017 Indy 500.
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  Just the initial, initial response that his wife had when that
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  accident happened and how everything came together after the fact.
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  So it was, it was a nice behind the scenes look from that
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  point of view, in my opinion.
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  And I don't know about you guys, but I picked up on a couple hidden messages
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  there, like Tony Kanaan at the end, you know, he kind of wrapped up some
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  thoughts and he mentioned something about like, you know, people just have
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  to adapt to the racer's lifestyle.
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  And if you don't like it tough, I mean, that was really the gist.
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  There was something else that Emma had said.
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  You know, Scott's not happy unless he's winning.
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  I thought it was more than stating the fact that he's not happy unless he's
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  going fast, unless I picked up in a different spot because they did hit on
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  that a couple of times, like her speaking about that competition as are just
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  like the thrill type aspect, I guess, is what they were trying to point out
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  about what a lot of race car drivers do.
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  I've mentioned before, especially with the motocross type stuff.
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  I relate to that because that's more thrill seeking than, you know,
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  some other aspects of motor sports.
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  Sure.
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  Going 230 mile an hour in a open cockpit car is rather intense.
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  I've never experienced it, but who knows?
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  Maybe I will one day.
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  And they did focus a lot on his wife.
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  And I agree with Mike that you saw the more personal side of it
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  with his daughters and all that.
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  But there were certain scenes that I didn't feel like they were a value add.
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  They followed her running for a while.
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  And I'm like, okay, yeah, she was an Olympic runner.
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  I get it.
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  But I mean, do I need to see her putting on her shoes and
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  getting ready to go for a jog?
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  I mean, it just didn't provide anything.
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  And it, it felt like filler.
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  I don't know, Mike.
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  I also liked how I gave the background of when he was a youth
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  and was out carding and stuff like that, and how he got into cars.
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  And racing in general and how even I like how they even had members of his
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  pit crew that used to do carting and stuff as they were growing up, grew up
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  and became pit members, and it shows how he was one of the fortunate ones
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  that started out and actually made it to a professional driving position.
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  But there's so many of us that never make to that professional spot.
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  There's that ability we can get onto a crew for a professional spot,
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  which would say there are guys that you know, aspire to do that, that
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  never make it behind the wheel.
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  Even just being part of a big team like that, it makes it on a professional
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  level, it'd be an amazing thing.
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  So Mike, are there posters of Scott Dixon all over New Zealand
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  since you spent some time?
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  No, I did not see it, but he is, he is mentioned when you're watching Australian
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  supercars, because they talk about the New Zealand and Australian drivers that have
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  made it big in other international series.
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  But yeah, it was, it was interesting seeing his time back in, back in
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  Auckland and, and hearing his family talk about the sacrifices that they
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  made for, for him to be able to.
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  Proceed with his career as he, as he was growing up, it was also kind of
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  interesting when they started doing the training regimen stuff and when he
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  was sitting in the SIM and the other guy was sitting there with, with the
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  device attached to his head to simulate G forces while he's in the SIM on
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  his neck to stress his neck muscles in preparation for being in the car.
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  So, so some of those just short little snippets were actually just kind of
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  interesting behind the scenes look to things that you don't think about.
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  To touch on another thing that Mike was saying is like with the training with
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  the guy yanking on his head and stuff or G forces in his neck, I remember growing
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  up and seeing like NASCAR guys, they would be sitting in a chair and it would
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  be a steering wheel hooked to basically a shock where they would be turning it
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  and that would be the force that they'd be working their arms to try to build
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  up their muscle strength in their arms.
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  We're constantly doing the left turns.
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  So seeing the fact how they were using all the concepts, like, you know, touching
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  the different things on the screen to get his neurological feed and responses,
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  I thought was very interesting in that aspect of the training stuff they do.
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  I'll get that on Forza.
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  What are you talking about?
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  The other interesting, weird little thing that was touched on was when
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  they're talking to his tire engineer and his tire engineer is talking about
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  having worked for Mario Andretti and Encina and, and saying, you know, I
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  see in Scott Dixon, the same type of Drive that I saw in these other drivers.
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  And it makes you want to give even more than a hundred percent
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  of yourself when you're trying to support them as a, as a team member.
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  So I think you, you've got a great segue for me and Tanya on that one, because
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  I wanted to rename it board racer.
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  Because, I mean, I struggled to get through this film.
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  And it's not very long.
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  It's, what, 88 minutes?
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  Did you say Bourne Racer or Board Racer?
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  Oh, I said Board Racer earlier.
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  I don't know.
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  It was a chore.
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  There wasn't a lot of dialogue.
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  I did feel like I was watching another film from the 70s.
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  You guys are not selling me.
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  I'm going to go watch it now.
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  Just, I don't know.
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  That tire guy was more interesting than Scott Dixon was.
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  I want to know about that dude.
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  I want to know about his history.
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  I mean, he worked with Senna.
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  He worked with Andretti.
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  I mean, wow.
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  Right.
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  I mean, it was just more interesting than what I saw in the film.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, I, I was captivated for the 10 seconds of the tire guide,
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  but it wasn't a biopic about Senna or Mario Andretti or the tire guy.
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  So I understand why he didn't go into his.
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  But so to add one, I took his speaking in a different route because I was
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  watching the different things he was doing, prepping tires and stuff like that.
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  Now, like in one, one of the scenes, he's actually measuring the
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  diameters of the tire afterwards.
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  And the scientific curiosity in me is like, okay, what's he doing that for?
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  How often does he do it?
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  You know, I'd be interested in like the scientific mathematical aspect of that
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  sort of stuff as well, just for that.
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  Side of me that's always intrigued by that sort of stuff.
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  Again, that tire guy needs an entire movie to himself.
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  He is super interesting, like what he does.
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  Actually, if they had done a whole aspect of the Ganassi team, that
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  would have been an interesting take on the whole situation.
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  Because I think focusing an hour and a half on Scott, it
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  just left you kind of like, meh.
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  Is it just me or did the Quote unquote, associate engineer, Kate Gundlach.
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  Did that make any sense to anybody?
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  Why we were focusing so much attention on her when we weren't talking about Scott?
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  Like, I don't understand what she did for the team other than obviously
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  she was a part of the team, but why were the documentary makers so
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  fixated on bringing her in every time they couldn't fill the scene with.
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  Something with respect to Scott, I don't know why they
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  turned to her for that stuff.
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  But as I mentioned earlier, She was the one that brought out the fact of
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  like she carded and everything when she was younger never made to being in
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  the seat of a professional car But she was part of that team because everybody
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  aspires to be the person driving the car But there are plenty of positions
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  other than that growing up through the motorsports world that you can fill I
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  think it may have been a way to pull people into You know, all those important
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  roles to help out the actual driver.
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  I mean, I'm jealous.
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  I'd love to work on the race team.
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  So, I mean, I, I aspire to be her or that, uh, the tire guy, right.
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  That we've talked about.
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  I just, I don't know.
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  It just felt like it was overplayed in a way.
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  It's just like, we kept going back to her.
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  It's like, let's talk to somebody else on the race team.
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  There's other people here.
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  And I don't know, it's just odd.
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  I mean, she was the assistant engineer.
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  She is the person sitting next to the crew chief on the pit box during the race.
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  So it's not like she was just an inconsequential random team member.
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  The footage they had of her at the track was her sitting on the
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  pit box next to whoever the crew chief was monitoring telemetry
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  and, and doing that kind of stuff.
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  So she, she has a more critical role than random crew member A who
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  works air gun that keeps jamming.
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  On every pit stop Well, what's that guy's name they kept saying focus on
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  whatever his name was i was like, oh my god So that's something we got to bring
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  up talking about born racer, dude Scott dixon has the worst pit crew in the world
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  I mean, I don't know what to say like the longest pit stops the most calamities.
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  I'm surprised a wheel didn't fall off We didn't see a lot of his
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  awesome driving maneuvers passing people on track, but we saw a lot of
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  messed up pit stops, unfortunately.
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  Yeah, I didn't know if they were trying to pass the buck or place
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  the blame, but it was like, oh, that pit stop was 28 seconds.
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  I'm like, yeah, well, half, half the motor fell off, of course.
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  Like, I don't know what we were looking at sometimes.
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  I'm like, why is this relevant, right?
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  So, I don't know.
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  They could have done better.
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  For the long pit stops I'm thinking maybe they focused a little on that to put
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  more focus on how good a driver he is for the fact even with these slow pit stops.
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  He is great on track where it's making up for that time that
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  they're losing in the pits.
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  Despite being kneecapped at every turn, he almost won.
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  Yeah, but that, that, that theme gets old too after a while.
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  I mean, in general, the movie, the way they, or the documentary, the way they
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  shot it was very slow, which maybe speaks to Scott himself since, I think
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  several people mentioned how he doesn't talk a lot and he's a pretty quiet guy.
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  And if they were trying to reflect in through the documentary, I think
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  that came out, because I'm not sure if he spoke for more than five minutes.
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  total for the whole documentary.
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  I mean, you saw a lot of shots of him and there was dramatic music, but I
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  was just going to say, I can't remember Scott actually saying more than 20
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  words throughout the entire thing.
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  Like, I don't, I can't, I'm sitting here thinking about it as you all were talking.
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  About how he's quiet and everything.
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  I understand his wife did most of the talking during the documentary.
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  I don't remember him saying anything at all.
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  It was, everybody was talking about him.
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  I don't remember him actually speaking.
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  And when he did talk, it was like teller.
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  He was always talking in a voiceover.
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  Himself speaking.
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  There were, there were, there were a couple of moments.
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  I mean, five minutes is an exaggeration, but it wasn't as, as much as it
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  could have been, it would have been.
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  Maybe nice to hear a little bit more about his youth because he was
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  carting by the age of seven or eight.
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  And he, he was the youngest person to get a provisional driver's license
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  at 13 in New Zealand, which was a big deal so that he could go race.
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  You know, and Nissan Centro, I think it was, or whatever.
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  It would have been interesting to see a little bit more about
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  his youth progression and how he came into, you know, Indy.
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  I, I mean, I learned a lot in terms of him and wasn't very familiar with him,
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  quite honestly, before the documentary.
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  So, but in, in terms of the pace and, and everything, the, it was a little bit slow.
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  I, I would agree with that and I share all those same sentiments, but
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  one thing I didn't like was that his past Was done as a flashback versus a
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  lot of other documentaries about race car drivers are done chronologically.
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  So there's something to be said about that particular style of documentary.
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  For me, I didn't like the, okay, we're going to talk about what happened at,
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  you know, Indy, and then we're going to flashback to New Zealand and then we're
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  going to jump forward to the next race.
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  And then we're going to flash back to New Zealand.
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  It kind of got tiring because I wanted to know the progression like you did.
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  But I also feel like it gave them an excuse to skip over a lot of stuff
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  that might've happened in his formative years, because all we did was talk
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  about carding and then IndyCard.
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  And there's a sub story there about him going to Williams to try out
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  for formula one and stuff like that.
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  And it all kind of got left on the table.
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  And I think those are important turning points in his story.
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  And then some of the races, you know, we only got to see like two
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  corners of Detroit and like, show me the track or even mid Ohio.
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  I recognized it because I've driven there and I was like,
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  Oh my God, they're a middle.
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  And then it was just like, okay, we're in the pit box again.
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  Let's move on to the next thing.
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  And the same thing with the Glen.
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  You know, the most exciting thing there was when Newgarten parked it in the
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  wall coming out of the pit, and then the rest of it was just like, uh, okay.
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  Yeah, I wasn't really sure what they were trying to get at with,
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  with the whole biopic, because it didn't go into, it would have been
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  like other ones you watch, the son of documentary and things like that.
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  It's like, You see a lot of footage of races and, and, you know, awesome
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  passes, and this, that, and the other, and I don't know, they showed one or two
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  clips here and there, and they just moved on and would, you know, have silence
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  and pretty music in the background.
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  What did they want the viewer to get out of this documentary?
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  I mean, I learned something about him, but I feel like there was more
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  that they could have portrayed.
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  Yes, it would have been nice if, if Scott Dixon was, was more vocal.
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  And I think it's just, as Tanya, I think said, I think it
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  actually does just represent him.
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  Even when he was talking to the reporters, when he got out of the med
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  center at Indy, very brief, whereas a lot of other drivers will, will
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  hold longer conversations with him.
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  people as they go along and even the announcer, the clip of him
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  racing the next race at Detroit, the answers are saying, well, Scott
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  didn't want us to talk about his leg.
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  So it's almost like he doesn't, he doesn't like being talked about and
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  doesn't like talking about himself, but then they made a biopic about him.
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  Right.
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  So that, that leads into one of the questions I had going into
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  this conversation, which is.
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  A couple of times during the film they refer to Scott Dixon
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  as the greatest of all time.
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  I don't know how you guys feel about this or whether you agree or
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  disagree or the listeners agree and disagree to that statement, but does
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  he really have the same appeal as a Senna or a Schumacher or a Fangio?
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  I mean, I understand it's not the same level.
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  Does that really matter at the end of the day?
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  From a fandom perspective, does he really have the same appeal to you
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  or I as Senna does or Schumacher?
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  I'd say as a personality, no.
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  As a skilled driver, yes.
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  And there's, there's a lot of people that, that fall down that hole.
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  As a personality, I can't stand Kyle Busch.
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  I have to admire him because he's a great driver.
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  I just hate when he wins.
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  Especially when he wins in the minor leagues and racks up 90 some wins.
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  You know, it's exciting to watch him drive.
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  It's exciting to watch him race.
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  And then once he gets out of the car, I could care less.
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  I'll say I can definitely agree with crutch on that and aspect of
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  especially like how they are in the car.
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  And as for personality, he doesn't seem to have much.
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  He's very subtle personality, not very flamboyant like a lot because a lot
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  of race car drivers are very flashy.
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  He's the exact opposite of that.
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  He doesn't talk about himself and things like that.
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  So In a way, many race car drivers are much like the military.
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  We had our fighter pods and they were very cocky, very egotistical
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  guys, and very full of themselves.
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  And a lot of drivers are like that, but he doesn't seem to be.
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  He's more low key, but that is a Kiwi tree.
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  That is a cultural trait of New Zealand where.
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  They try not to shine and stand out.
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  So that might be just a product of, of being from New Zealand
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  and having that upbringing.
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  It's very strange when you're an American meeting a bunch of Kiwis and they
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  just, they won't talk about themselves.
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  They don't, you know, boast about their accomplishments or anything.
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  They're just like, whatever.
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  I, I showed up and I did this and I'm done.
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  And I can, I can admire that as a trait in people.
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  I can admire the fact he lets his driving speak for itself.
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  That's the other thing about this film.
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  It just hit Netflix.
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  And the content was three years old.
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  So I don't know if they're just kind of scraping the barrel here,
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  just trying to put something out to keep people interested.
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  Same thing with Gentleman Driver and some of the other stuff that's come out.
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  But Netflix buys stuff from other places.
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  So it could have been on any like speed channel or any one
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  of those other kind of services.
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  And then finally Netflix bought it.
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  And now you see it.
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  Any other final comments on Board Racer before we get to the good stuff?
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  I would say if you're not a IndyCar fan or a Scott Dixon fan, probably pass on it.
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  It's not going to be done in such a way that's going to be very intriguing or have
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  you kind of at the edge of your seat as a non car or maybe a lesser car enthusiast.
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  I'm going to speak for Sam.
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  He thought it was awesome and none of us know what we're talking about.
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  I think Bored Racer or Born Racer is the, the documentary equivalent
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  of watching an IndyCar race.
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  No, no.
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  An Indy race is much more interesting than this documentary.
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  It was like watching Formula One.
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  Officially unsubstantiated.
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  I wasn't trying to sell it.
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  Sorry.
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  No, thank you.
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  All right.
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  Well, I think we've covered that ad nauseum at this point.
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  So let's get to the good stuff.
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  Let's go.
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  Back in time.
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  Let's go to 1974.
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  Ohhhh.
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  With the cult classic, Gone in 60 Seconds.
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  I got my notes.
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  Go for it.
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  You start us off.
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  Start you off?
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  Uh, it was like the, how long was it?
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  90?
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  90 minutes?
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  200 hours.
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  I don't know, but it was like a porno.
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  Seven years.
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  Never, never got to the good stuff.
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  It was just like the porn music and everything.
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  I had to feel it had the same acting level, but then it never got
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  to the, there was no money shot.
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  It never got anywhere.
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  Trash the whole time.
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  I got to add something there because since you went there.
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  As, as the film progressed and we get to that epic jump scene towards the end,
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  which I'm sure we'll talk about more.
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  It was like 15 minutes long.
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  That slow motion burnout was like behind the green door.
• 18:16
  And if you've seen that, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
• 18:19
  So it got there, Brad, it definitely got there.
• 18:22
  So anyway, go ahead.
• 18:24
  I mean, I, I open it up to comments.
• 18:26
  I've just got a couple of questions.
• 18:28
  About the movie.
• 18:29
  Like how come in the beginning, the, when they were looking for recruits for
• 18:34
  the crew, the black guy was like, Oh yeah, I saw him in playgirl magazine.
• 18:39
  Why was he reading playgirl magazine?
• 18:42
  Why would he know that that guy was in playgirl magazine?
• 18:45
  I don't know.
• 18:46
  Maybe, maybe they're free thinkers even.
• 18:49
  What?
• 18:50
  50 years ago.
• 18:50
  This is good.
• 18:51
  This is progressive.
• 18:52
  Maybe, maybe.
• 18:53
  And then why was there a tiger in the parked car at the golf
• 18:55
  course or wherever they were?
• 18:56
  What?
• 18:59
  Yeah.
• 19:00
  Tiger wasn't there in the remake of Gone in 60 Seconds.
• 19:04
  There was a snake or something.
• 19:05
  Snake in the Hummer.
• 19:06
  Snake in the Hummer, yeah, in the parking garage.
• 19:08
  Yep.
• 19:09
  I think that's a euphemism, the snake in the Hummer.
• 19:13
  I would actually like a hot water heater, like document hider.
• 19:19
  That was cool.
• 19:21
  That was really James Bond for that movie.
• 19:24
  But move too slow.
• 19:25
  The cops are knocking at the door.
• 19:31
  How many of you have seen both versions of this movie now?
• 19:34
  There were two scenes that were almost identical.
• 19:37
  The drugs are in the Cadillac.
• 19:38
  Yeah, and then the jump scene was, it's not identical, but it's, it
• 19:43
  was probably taken, inspiration was taken from that scene.
• 19:46
  I think the newer one did it a lot better, although not as realistic.
• 19:50
  Yeah, the old one, the old one was a little more realistic.
• 19:53
  Except that whole, Burnout scene, but we'll get into that.
• 19:56
  So I want to, I want to go gut reactions on this movie from everybody.
• 20:01
  So we'll start with Mike, what your gut reaction on the film.
• 20:04
  Oh, it's horrible.
• 20:05
  It's like a train wreck.
• 20:06
  A lot of this has to do with how they actually filmed this.
• 20:09
  You have all this action going on on screen and then they, they
• 20:12
  dialogue it all by voiceover.
• 20:14
  Cause they couldn't get a microphone out to the boat that was next to the airplane.
• 20:18
  Like there's this whole conversation going on.
• 20:20
  You're seeing things happen, but.
• 20:21
  That conversation is not actually happening there.
• 20:24
  They're just changing money, but the conversation is being played over
• 20:27
  dialogue mistakes that they could have taken two seconds to rerecord either.
• 20:31
  They're trying to portray them as fumbling idiots, or they need to do more reshoots.
• 20:36
  Just all the voiceovers, the collect call to the wedding.
• 20:45
  There's so many things, right?
• 20:46
  The scene where they're walking and talking through like the park,
• 20:50
  but everything is out of focus.
• 20:53
  So, Chrissy, Chrissy, what about you?
• 20:55
  What did you think?
• 20:56
  I wasn't sure what was going on.
• 20:58
  Like, the movie starts.
• 21:00
  And it's like a construction scene.
• 21:02
  And you've seen like the footage from like Sesame Street, like back
• 21:05
  in the seventies when they were like, go out in some parks with like big
• 21:09
  construction equipment and crap.
• 21:10
  I thought, like, I was like, what is this?
• 21:13
  And then like the wedding thing happened.
• 21:16
  And like, I mean, the cat thing made me laugh.
• 21:18
  And, but I was just like, I don't know.
• 21:22
  And I said to Mike, I, it's like, this guy produced the film with his own money.
• 21:28
  But he apparently had never seen a film before.
• 21:31
  I always take into consideration, A, it's from the 70s.
• 21:35
  So, filmatography at that time wasn't the greatest to begin with.
• 21:40
  So, I have to always factor that in.
• 21:43
  As for storyline, it really was long and drawed out to me.
• 21:48
  It was very difficult to watch it the whole way through.
• 21:50
  But I can imagine that back then, because there were no movies very common like
• 21:56
  that, And I guess that would have been considered huge action at that time.
• 22:01
  Because if you compare it to other movies, you didn't have
• 22:03
  that sort of scenes going on.
• 22:05
  So, the concept for it was maybe possible, the follow through wasn't there.
• 22:10
  I don't think the cameras had the ability, definitely the audio
• 22:14
  stuff wasn't at the ability needed.
• 22:16
  I'd say it's like this, it's Hollywood.
• 22:18
  I can't, you can't take anything they take as serious, it's
• 22:20
  out there for, Entertainment.
• 22:22
  Was the old one entertaining?
• 22:25
  Eh, kind of.
• 22:26
  But it's, I'm, it's not on my top ten list to watch.
• 22:29
  Jess.
• 22:30
  When Eric told me that that movie was shot without a script, I was never
• 22:38
  less surprised in my entire life.
• 22:40
  It was so bad.
• 22:46
  I mean, it was one of those, like, the movie ended credits and Eric and I look
• 22:50
  at each other and we're like, Well, that was, pardon my language, fucking awful.
• 22:55
  Like, he was so angry, like, I cannot express to you, like, I know it's
• 22:59
  his turn soon, but like, I cannot express to you how angry Eric was
• 23:03
  until he fell asleep that night.
• 23:05
  And he was angry when he woke up in the morning, for the record.
• 23:08
  He was still like God damn it.
• 23:10
  That movie was awful.
• 23:11
  It was awful.
• 23:12
  I can't believe it even made it.
• 23:15
  Terrible.
• 23:16
  Absolutely terrible.
• 23:18
  But like, I guess if we watch it again, because we know it's
• 23:21
  terrible, it would be really funny.
• 23:23
  But for our first time watching it was so bad.
• 23:27
  And the voiceover, Mike, you're so right.
• 23:29
  Like, I was like, do you think they just didn't have boom mics?
• 23:33
  Like, why do you think they had to do this?
• 23:35
  Like, I will say, that is the second time I watched it, because I watched
• 23:40
  it a long time ago, but I had to re watch it to refresh my memory
• 23:44
  of just how bad it was for this.
• 23:45
  It does not get better on the second watch.
• 23:48
  No.
• 23:49
  Well, to Jess's point, I'm wondering if it would have been better as a silent
• 23:53
  film, like no dialogue, but just Just the car sounds, even if like when people
• 24:01
  are supposed to be talking, just like car sounds, it would have been great.
• 24:03
  It would have sounded just as good.
• 24:05
  So my next point, I'm halfway through the movie and I'm trying to figure out what's
• 24:11
  going on, why they're stealing these cars, where's the drama, like in the,
• 24:15
  in the remake, there's a lot of drama.
• 24:17
  His brother gets in trouble with the wrong guys and he's got to go save them.
• 24:20
  And then finally we get halfway through and it's a David and Goliath story.
• 24:25
  It's the little guy versus big insurance.
• 24:29
  Oh my God.
• 24:30
  They're going after Geico.
• 24:31
  Now this is something I can get behind.
• 24:33
  So they tried stealing that one car from the dealership.
• 24:37
  It was like a challenger or a Cuda or something.
• 24:40
  This movie was shot in 74.
• 24:42
  The Eleanor Mustang was a 73.
• 24:45
  Why not just walk down to the local Ford dealer?
• 24:48
  Take one for a test drive and never come back.
• 24:50
  I don't understand why they had to go through all this rigmarole.
• 24:53
  They looked for them.
• 24:53
  How many did they find that they couldn't steal like 17, 000 before
• 24:58
  they could actually take one?
• 24:59
  I mean, what the fuck this, this was like a one year old Mustang.
• 25:03
  This is not, this is not like the, the GT 500 or GT three 50 or whatever
• 25:08
  from the remake, it's like a, this rare, rare classic that you can't find.
• 25:12
  You can walk down to the fricking.
• 25:13
  Piggly wiggly and find one in the parking lot.
• 25:17
  And it's a terrible mustang too.
• 25:18
  It's one nobody wants.
• 25:20
  Well, apparently he wanted it.
• 25:22
  It was the last real mustang according to them.
• 25:26
  Until the next one turned out.
• 25:29
  And then the two of my favorite quotes from the movie, the first one was the
• 25:32
  little old lady talking to the police and I ruined my perfectly good umbrella.
• 25:40
  And then that was 25 percent of the dialogue.
• 25:43
  That was, that was, that was the best line of the movie.
• 25:47
  The second best line is during the Eleanor chase.
• 25:51
  On the voiceover, there's this couple that says, Sounds like it's finally over.
• 25:56
  And then the woman says, Finally?
• 25:58
  That's how I felt at the end of the movie.
• 26:01
  It sounds like it's finally over.
• 26:03
  Finally, it's over.
• 26:04
  You didn't like the quote at the end?
• 26:06
  See ya later, Billy.
• 26:08
  Okay, so, to touch on that, Why, why is it whenever they show, like,
• 26:13
  young African American kids, They're always smoking pot and dubbing it
• 26:17
  up, And this like giant Cadillac slow rolling down down Crenshaw Boulevard,
• 26:22
  but why why do they always have to?
• 26:24
  I don't understand that.
• 26:25
  That's just a little tangent that it kind of hurts me a little bit, but I was gonna
• 26:29
  make the same tangent because I didn't understand and we went back to them.
• 26:33
  What?
• 26:33
  Not once.
• 26:34
  Not twice, but three times and they were the part of the ending too, and
• 26:39
  I'm like you have got to be kidding me I mean it provided zero value
• 26:44
  to the movie whatsoever, right?
• 26:46
  Well, so I want to I want to fix a couple things They were stealing the car for
• 26:49
  a drug kingpin, but you probably missed it because it was in a voiceover I muted
• 26:55
  the, I muted the movie partway through.
• 26:57
  I turned it into a silent film.
• 26:59
  And, yeah, that scene where they're stealing back the car
• 27:02
  that they've vinslapped from a dealership in their town.
• 27:06
  I mean, that's just bad car, car stealing right there.
• 27:08
  I mean, you, you vinslap a car and then, Put a vanity tag back on it and
• 27:15
  try and sell it locally, you know, but they do it all during the day.
• 27:19
  Do they not have nighttime in California?
• 27:21
  Okay.
• 27:21
  Since we're talking about that, what about the scene at the airport where
• 27:25
  they're literally standing on the curb at arrivals and they're like,
• 27:28
  Oh, here comes that burgundy rolls.
• 27:30
  And the dude walks away and leaves his keys in it.
• 27:33
  And it was like the third car they did that to until they tried to quote
• 27:37
  unquote steal the first Eleanor.
• 27:38
  And I was like, okay.
• 27:40
  You gotta be kidding me.
• 27:41
  This is not how this movie is gonna go.
• 27:42
  We got 48 cars and we're gonna literally stand here on the curb
• 27:45
  and just wait for him to drop them off like it's Hertz rental?
• 27:49
  I was like, what is this?
• 27:50
  So to highlight on Brad's comment about no, uh, nighttime in Los Angeles, You saw
• 27:55
  how bad the filming was during the day.
• 27:57
  Do you seriously want to have tried to see what it would have looked like at night?
• 28:00
  It could have been like Cloverfield.
• 28:02
  There was one night time scene.
• 28:04
  They stole, he stole the one Eleanor, I think, from the guys
• 28:08
  who were out there at night.
• 28:09
  He borrowed it.
• 28:10
  And then they returned the car because Because it wasn't insured.
• 28:15
  Do you remember that whole scene though?
• 28:18
  I was like, What is happening?
• 28:20
  All you see are really dim headlights.
• 28:23
  Like, they could be anywhere.
• 28:24
  They could be driving around a parking lot.
• 28:26
  There is no, you see nothing.
• 28:29
  It was so bad.
• 28:30
  It's because they were driving around the parking lot for like 15
• 28:33
  minutes before he took the car home.
• 28:35
  With a camera they borrowed from the library with 1970s headlights.
• 28:40
  God, so, so to Dan's point earlier about being a 70s film, there's
• 28:44
  no other films before that.
• 28:46
  I will, I will correct you there.
• 28:48
  The Seven Ups had long car chase scenes, Bullitt had long car chase
• 28:51
  scenes, but what I felt Herbie.
• 28:54
  Herbie, yeah, Herbie.
• 28:56
  What I felt was a ripple, was a scene towards the end of the movie where
• 29:01
  he's got 93 Chrysler police cars of every shape and form that existed.
• 29:08
  Chasing him down that what six lane highway all of a sudden and it was like
• 29:13
  Vanishing Point which came out three years before Gone in 60 Seconds and I
• 29:17
  felt like he kind of ripped that scene off a little bit from Vanishing Point
• 29:20
  because if you've seen the original one he's in the Challenger he's headed
• 29:23
  towards the bulldozers with the cops behind him and then you know boom the
• 29:27
  movie kind of ends so I felt like it was a Kowalski moment there and I was
• 29:31
  like man I've already seen this before.
• 29:33
  I'm just going to say, for massive amounts of cop cars chasing a vehicle
• 29:36
  down the highway, OJ did it best.
• 29:37
  I will say, the scene, very much towards the end, with the car wash, I
• 29:42
  mean, talk about, like, you knew they ran out of ideas at that point, right?
• 29:47
  And you're just like, they don't know how to end this thing, because
• 29:50
  it's been 45 minutes that he's been driving around like a maniac.
• 29:54
  But I nearly fell out of my chair.
• 29:57
  When the lady came out and he did this like terrible car swap and the wrecked
• 30:01
  Eleanor comes out of the car wash and then she just faints into the dude.
• 30:05
  It's like you have got to be kidding me.
• 30:10
  You know, I thought that was probably the best comedic part
• 30:12
  of the movie in my opinion, but otherwise, God, what a dumpster fire.
• 30:17
  But it's a brilliant dumpster fire.
• 30:19
  when you understand the backstory of it.
• 30:23
  But let's let Dan get his comment in it.
• 30:25
  Well, I'm just going to say, it's somewhat of a cult classic,
• 30:29
  but how many cult classics are really like, Phenomenal movies.
• 30:33
  They normally aren't that great.
• 30:34
  Yeah, but you could say rocky horror is a cult classic And
• 30:38
  there's ones like reefer madness.
• 30:39
  That's a cult classic and that's a train wreck and a half Mall
• 30:42
  rats and clerks called classics.
• 30:45
  They're all not that as bad as this Okay, I gotta say any of the skew
• 30:50
  view films i'm fans of so I think it's the only person that now is
• 30:55
  on the other side of the argument.
• 30:57
  We all think this is You A flaming bag of dog food that somebody
• 31:01
  left on our doorstep that we were somehow obligated to watch.
• 31:05
  So she's actually, surprisingly, in the camp, has flipped overnight from
• 31:10
  raging dumpster fire to epic movie, and she's going to explain to us why.
• 31:16
  More, more, more, more, more, more!
• 31:20
  I mean, it is a raging dumpster fire that you just want to stand next to and bask in
• 31:27
  the glow and the warmth of those flames.
• 31:29
  Okay.
• 31:32
  When you understand what went into this movie or didn't go into this
• 31:36
  movie, for me, it completely changed my perspective and appreciation for it.
• 31:42
  I went into it completely agree with what I was saying and I went into it
• 31:47
  fully aware that this is a 1974 movie, which means it was going to have terrible
• 31:54
  dialogue, very little dialogue, poor acting skills, cinematography wasn't going
• 32:00
  to be there, and it was going to be long.
• 32:03
  Because in the 70s, that's kind of how a lot of the movies were.
• 32:07
  But Chrissy mentioned it earlier, the Henry Halecki, known as
• 32:12
  Toby, the car crash king, as he's been, uh, come to be known as.
• 32:18
  Yes, he did direct, produce, fund, star in this movie.
• 32:24
  It was his baby.
• 32:25
  All the cars basically were his, so he wrecked his own vehicles in this movie.
• 32:32
  As Jess said, there was no script.
• 32:33
  There was barely a script.
• 32:35
  There was a few Swishes of dialogue just to kind of guide things, but
• 32:40
  there was no script and it was obvious.
• 32:43
  The dialogue was lacking.
• 32:44
  There really were no professional actors.
• 32:46
  The other actors were his friends or family members.
• 32:51
  Okay.
• 32:51
  So it's a GTM movie all of a sudden, see?
• 32:54
  That's what I'm taking from this.
• 32:55
  But this man, we talk about Send it.
• 32:59
  This man is full send, okay?
• 33:03
  That is how he lived his life.
• 33:05
  He didn't get permission to make this movie.
• 33:08
  The pedestrians were real pedestrians, okay?
• 33:14
  The car crashes were all real!
• 33:17
  People almost died.
• 33:19
  People not of the movie were getting into accidents.
• 33:22
  People were watching, thinking a real life police chase was happening.
• 33:26
  He didn't tell anybody.
• 33:27
  For all we know, the umbrella woman, that was real.
• 33:32
  He probably was upset about her umbrella.
• 33:34
  I mean, my mind is blown when I knew that.
• 33:37
  And it's a 40 minute car chasing, the longest car
• 33:40
  chasing in the was the only car.
• 33:48
  to be in that scene.
• 33:51
  It was 40 minutes of that one car.
• 33:53
  It took all that beating and it still runs today.
• 33:56
  He installed a NASCAR roll cage in it.
• 33:58
  It was a really good drive tribe article that that outlines a lot of this.
• 34:02
  You can find more information on Wikipedia where they pulled a lot about, I guess
• 34:05
  the DVD has some backstories in there that you can get if you own the DVD.
• 34:10
  And we'll post some links to this stuff for the list.
• 34:12
  He installed a NASCAR roll cage to protect himself.
• 34:15
  The transmission got chained to the body so it wouldn't fall out.
• 34:19
  There's like three inch thick steel plates underneath the
• 34:22
  thing to keep everything inside.
• 34:24
  He apparently MacGyver individual locking rear brakes.
• 34:28
  I think he tweaked the engine so he even had more power.
• 34:31
  I mean, he drove the thing that whole 40 minutes.
• 34:34
  It took that beating.
• 34:35
  The scene, if you recall, he's going down the highway and he's going to do
• 34:38
  what most people do on the highway.
• 34:40
  Take that exit from the left lane and he spins out.
• 34:44
  Was unplanned.
• 34:46
  That was an accident.
• 34:47
  He hit that telephone pole at over 90 miles an hour.
• 34:51
  He bit it, folks!
• 34:52
  He for real bit it!
• 34:55
  Okay?
• 34:56
  And he got hurt, and we had to pause.
• 35:00
  But they had the footage, and they used it, and they picked back
• 35:03
  up when he was feeling better.
• 35:05
  From that scene, they kept down telephone pole, and they kind of picked
• 35:09
  it all back up and started going.
• 35:10
  The car still ran.
• 35:12
  They had to fix it up a little bit, but it still ran.
• 35:14
  That scene was real.
• 35:16
  Okay?
• 35:17
  All the other wrecked police cars, all that stuff, real.
• 35:21
  They were actually crashing them.
• 35:23
  The Cadillac seen at the dealership.
• 35:25
  Supposedly, the, the dealership owner?
• 35:28
  That was the dealership owner.
• 35:30
  His face of upset when the cars got crashed?
• 35:33
  It's cause they accidentally got crashed.
• 35:36
  He put two of his own Cadillacs at the front line of the line of Cadillacs at the
• 35:40
  dealer, and when they T boned the first cars, According to the information, it
• 35:46
  was only supposed to impact the first two cars, which were his, except they put some
• 35:50
  oil underneath the cars to make them stop, except they kind of hit it too much force,
• 35:54
  a little too much, uh, oil, and he totaled McFeeler's cars, and he had to buy them.
• 36:01
  I mean, this is some of the epicness, and I turn around, and I'm like, Oh my
• 36:07
  god, I mean it was the most authentic car chasing that you're ever gonna see.
• 36:13
  Because Fast and the Furious can't compete with that.
• 36:16
  CGI, this, that, and the other car, flipping and barrel rolling.
• 36:19
  No!
• 36:19
  He, he launched Eleanor off that ramp.
• 36:23
  It was like he made a 30 foot high, I think, almost 130 foot in distance.
• 36:28
  He compacted 10 vertebrae on the landing.
• 36:32
  He legit launched that car without any gas catapult turbines like they do today.
• 36:38
  No, he drove it.
• 36:40
  He sent it.
• 36:43
  40 minutes of full send with the, with people not even knowing it was real.
• 36:48
  I mean, at one point I thought like it's red asphalt.
• 36:52
  I mean, they had people crashing right on the bridge and all this stuff.
• 36:55
  And I was like, Oh my God, people are getting hurt in this.
• 36:58
  This is chaos because it was people, it was legitimate chaos.
• 37:05
  And for that reason, The dumpster fire is amazing.
• 37:10
  So, with that being said, with this newfound knowledge, does it
• 37:13
  change your opinion of the movie?
• 37:16
  It gives me a question.
• 37:18
  When he's stopped in the park, surrounded by the cops, and there's
• 37:23
  that one guy lying on the sidewalk in front of him, blocking the car's
• 37:27
  path, and he crawls back, did that guy know what the hell was going on?
• 37:31
  I wondered that after reading some of this.
• 37:34
  Because there's another scene, I think that was near the car dealership,
• 37:37
  where the blue Belvedere was, they were trying to like do the police blockade,
• 37:43
  and he was supposed to brake and then do like a, like a turn, except he
• 37:47
  missed the brake marker, and actually T Bone, like he almost killed the guy
• 37:51
  that was there, like the dude bailed, because he's like, I think he missed
• 37:54
  the brake zone, and like, apparently in the movie, it's all the real footage,
• 37:58
  like the dude dived out of the way.
• 38:00
  And all those guys clobbered.
• 38:02
  I mean, it was just full send.
• 38:05
  Full send.
• 38:06
  So were the cop cars real cop cars?
• 38:09
  No.
• 38:09
  So he bought all, so all the cars in there, he bought off, Uh, I forget
• 38:14
  where they were like a couple hundred bucks each or something So they weren't
• 38:17
  like legitimate like the actual police cars, but representative of the police
• 38:22
  She's probably got away with being 40 minutes because all the other cops
• 38:25
  said there's other cops chasing him.
• 38:27
  He's fine So I read they've read 93 cars in that movie total but
• 38:35
  tanya's got another little fun fact for when we go on who wants to be a
• 38:39
  millionaire This is a trilogy You Yes.
• 38:44
  Well, it's a trilogy in the sense that he had three kind of movies.
• 38:48
  So he had another one that was called, um, Junkman, which I think he
• 38:54
  totaled something like over 200 cars or something ridiculous like that.
• 38:59
  But there's also something very weird about how he took footage
• 39:02
  from Also Gone in 60 Seconds and reused it in this movie, etc, etc.
• 39:07
  But then he was actually going to make a second Gone in 60 Seconds.
• 39:13
  Which unfortunately he, because he is full send in his life, he
• 39:17
  actually passed away during the movie 'cause he was doing all his stunts.
• 39:21
  He had some crazy stunt of this water tower that was gonna fall over when
• 39:25
  he pulled it with this dump truck.
• 39:27
  And unfortunately, um, as the story goes, some, there was a
• 39:32
  cable that prematurely snapped.
• 39:34
  And when it snapped, it cut a telephone pole or some sort
• 39:37
  down and it actually hit him.
• 39:39
  And so he basically died from the impact of that telephone pole hitting him.
• 39:44
  Um, so who knows what that movie would have brought us.
• 39:46
  So what they ended up doing, I believe, is the third movie, kind of in his trilogy
• 39:50
  of movies, was Deadline Auto, which takes a lot of footage, I think, from what
• 39:55
  was going to be Gone in 60 Seconds 2.
• 39:57
  And does a whole other compilation of stealing footage from Junkman, and
• 40:01
  then the first gone in 60 seconds.
• 40:03
  I don't know, it's completely ridiculous.
• 40:04
  He died at, I think, 48 years old.
• 40:07
  So, in my head, this guy, I'm like, I wonder, if he had not
• 40:11
  passed away, like, how would car chase scenes been different today?
• 40:16
  Because he was very, obviously, authentic about it, and not safe.
• 40:20
  So clearly somebody would have came down on him and there would have been, you
• 40:24
  know, changes in the way he does things, but I, I really wonder now having seen
• 40:29
  that and learned a little bit more about him, how modern day car chases and car
• 40:34
  movies would have probably been completely different with his type of cinematic take.
• 40:40
  With all the, uh, authentic reactions from people not being
• 40:43
  aware of what was going on.
• 40:45
  The thing that pops out to me is this was the 1970s automotive
• 40:48
  version of Blair Witch.
• 40:53
  It was rough.
• 40:54
  It was rough.
• 40:54
  But no, I mean, now that we've gotten that information, I think I have a, like Tanya,
• 40:59
  I have a different appreciation for it.
• 41:01
  I've got two points.
• 41:02
  One, I'm impressed.
• 41:04
  I'm a little less impressed because I was holding on for Tanya to say
• 41:08
  that they actually stole the cars.
• 41:10
  I'm impressed.
• 41:10
  But that, that, that didn't come because it is authentic as she made it sound.
• 41:14
  Maybe they actually did steal the cars.
• 41:15
  Maybe this was just a documentary on how ridiculous all these people were.
• 41:19
  It was jackass in the seventies.
• 41:22
  My second point is I still stand by the silent film idea, but I think it would
• 41:27
  be better if Tanya narrated like March of the Penguins and Morgan Freeman.
• 41:32
  I think Tanya should narrate Golden 60 Seconds.
• 41:34
  I mean, there was the first 40 minutes and then there was the second 40 minutes.
• 41:39
  You just had to get past the first 40 minutes.
• 41:42
  You just have to skip Jar Jar Binks.
• 41:48
  I mean, it was terrible, but uh, knowing everything I know now, I'm just like, wow.
• 41:52
  So see you later, Billy.
• 41:53
  Now, we're gonna pop our collars, we're gonna put on our leather cropped jackets,
• 41:59
  and fast forward into 1987, with No Man's Land, starring Charlie Sheen and D.
• 42:05
  B.
• 42:05
  Sweeney.
• 42:06
  Most of you know who Charlie Sheen is, you know, he was obviously very famous
• 42:10
  later on, uh, was it Two and a half men.
• 42:12
  Or he's famous for a lot more than that.
• 42:16
  DB Sweeney.
• 42:16
  Some of you may not recognize him right away until you see him.
• 42:20
  He was the, the co star on the movie, the cutting edge, which was pretty,
• 42:25
  pretty well known movie in the eighties.
• 42:26
  And when Tanya recommended this movie, she came to me and said,
• 42:29
  Hey, did you see this movie that's on voodoo about stealing Porsches?
• 42:33
  And I said, well, you had my attention in Porsches, so I
• 42:36
  got to go check this thing out.
• 42:38
  Little did I know what it was going to turn into.
• 42:41
  And I will say recommended is a very strong word I probably didn't use.
• 42:49
  I think the appropriate term is she So, well, let's do gut reaction on this movie.
• 42:55
  I've got some interesting little tidbits for this one as well.
• 42:58
  So, I thought it was interesting that they didn't steal any non Niven Porsches.
• 43:04
  I mean, this is the 80s.
• 43:05
  There were plenty of other Porsches out there to steal.
• 43:08
  They don't want a 924?
• 43:09
  What the hell's wrong with them?
• 43:10
  That's the one I'd go for.
• 43:12
  But I agree with you, Brad.
• 43:13
  I mean, I would have expected to see, especially in the, in
• 43:15
  the repair shops, some 944s, a 928, you know, something else.
• 43:20
  It was just all 911s, which is, you know, neither here nor there.
• 43:23
  I wanted to see a 914, at least in the garage shop.
• 43:27
  And then I was, I think I talked about this a little bit on Slack, but
• 43:35
  it's essentially the same story as Point Break, as The fast and
• 43:43
  the furious, I mean, undercover police officer infiltrates.
• 43:47
  Falls in love, becomes best friends.
• 43:50
  Ted Verrick is a very 80s, you know, cocaine snorter name.
• 43:54
  So Ted is essentially Dominic Toretto.
• 43:57
  Oh, it's not, he's not a killer.
• 43:59
  He wouldn't do it.
• 43:59
  It's not his fault.
• 44:00
  No, no, no.
• 44:01
  And then Brian Spilner or, you know, Brian O'Connor or whatever.
• 44:05
  Who I thought, by the way, the actor who played him, what was it?
• 44:08
  B.
• 44:08
  Sweeney.
• 44:09
  Yeah.
• 44:09
  I thought it was John Cusack.
• 44:11
  They kind of have a very similar look.
• 44:13
  Because I was like, I didn't know John Cusack was in this.
• 44:15
  No, no, no.
• 44:16
  It was But yeah, it's essentially the same movie as The Fast and the Furious.
• 44:20
  Basically when you break it down, it's, it's funny you bring that up.
• 44:23
  So that's a major point.
• 44:24
  There's a lot of articles about that.
• 44:25
  There's, there's some that we'll post links to that people can read about.
• 44:28
  Obviously this came out 20 years before The Fast and the Furious
• 44:32
  that if and the premise is the same.
• 44:33
  That scene with Randy Quaid in the diner when he is telling him about
• 44:37
  stuff and the beginning where he is working on the 3 56, which by
• 44:40
  the way is one of the inconsistency problems I have with the movie.
• 44:43
  'cause that wasn't a 3 56, it was some chopped up beetle.
• 44:46
  Kit car thing.
• 44:47
  And it was the only non 9 11 that we got to see.
• 44:50
  And thankfully, we only really saw it one other time.
• 44:52
  And it was a rotting pile of mess.
• 44:54
  But that whole thing played out exactly like Fast and the Furious.
• 44:58
  And you can see where FNF got its inspiration from now.
• 45:01
  At one point, as I'm giving Tanya the play by play watching the
• 45:04
  movie, she's like, Oh, just wait, it turns into gone in 60 seconds.
• 45:07
  And then it'll come back to the Fast and the Furious.
• 45:09
  And I saw some of that in the film.
• 45:11
  And there's a ton of inconsistencies.
• 45:14
  But the dialogue was pretty good.
• 45:16
  It had a decent story.
• 45:17
  And there's a reason for that.
• 45:19
  It's because it was written by Dick Wolf.
• 45:21
  And I don't know if you guys are familiar with him.
• 45:23
  He's the longtime writer from Law and Order.
• 45:28
  In addition to that, the executive producer of the film, you may come to
• 45:31
  find also as a surprise, was Ron Howard.
• 45:33
  So Apollo 13, and then there were other famous people,
• 45:37
  actually a part of this movie.
• 45:39
  So as low budget.
• 45:41
  And, and funky and cut up as it was, it had a very large backing to it.
• 45:46
  So this could have been the fast and the furious of the eighties.
• 45:51
  And maybe we were just too young to realize it when it came out.
• 45:54
  We just never heard about it.
• 45:55
  And it went to the archive and now was that?
• 45:57
  Oh, the moment I was.
• 46:00
  Seeing the fashion, I really stopped paying attention to the movie.
• 46:02
  It is straight 80s down to the aquanet and the gel and the, you know, the multiple
• 46:08
  pink shirts and the whole nine yards.
• 46:09
  Like, it's like an episode of Miami Vice.
• 46:12
  The one woman with the really wide shouldered suit that when she turns
• 46:16
  around the club, there is no shirt.
• 46:18
  And it's like taped on.
• 46:19
  I just, I, I was, yeah, that was it.
• 46:23
  That was during the obligatory band scene, which is very typical in the 80s movie.
• 46:27
  We started to crack up.
• 46:28
  We're like, Hey, it's jam out time.
• 46:30
  Huey Lewis in the news is going to come on next.
• 46:32
  I mean, it's like, Well, I mean, it had so many tropes in it, but to Brad's
• 46:37
  point, the sister was Toretto's sister.
• 46:40
  It was the same storyline we've come to know now, but we didn't know
• 46:43
  about this little gem from 1987.
• 46:45
  I've not had the pleasure of seeing it, so I'm interested to see what
• 46:48
  the rest of the review has to say.
• 46:53
  God, you know, I had a lot of fun playing spot the car in the background,
• 46:57
  so I'm going to start with that.
• 46:58
  So there's a cabrio.
• 47:00
  It's all cabrio.
• 47:01
  There was a, there was a mark one Jetta.
• 47:02
  There was a 16 voucher Rocco.
• 47:04
  They use three times in the movie.
• 47:06
  It was bright red.
• 47:07
  I found a Audi GT coupe.
• 47:09
  There was all sorts of stuff in the background that it was
• 47:11
  just like, Oh, look at that.
• 47:12
  Oh, look at that.
• 47:12
  I even sent some screenshots to Tanya, you know, about it and
• 47:15
  whatnot, posted one of them on, on Instagram, as a matter of fact.
• 47:18
  And so that was kind of fun to see all those cars or some, you
• 47:21
  know, piece of junk Renault in there, a bunch of other stuff.
• 47:24
  It was, it was fun to see the Porsches and it was fun to play,
• 47:28
  you know, I spy and see, you know, the older eighties cars and whatnot.
• 47:32
  You know, you don't see in modern day movies and that
• 47:35
  aspect was fun and I mean it.
• 47:36
  But there's one other comment I want to make on the I Spy.
• 47:39
  The, by today's standards, half a million dollar Ferrari 512 BB that
• 47:43
  showed up multiple times in the background of this movie was beyond
• 47:48
  anything I could comprehend because the first time you see it in the police
• 47:52
  impound garage underground, Randy Quaid like, Just walks by it nonchalantly.
• 47:57
  I'm like, there's a half a million dollar Ferrari sitting there basically in hock.
• 48:00
  And I was like, this makes no sense.
• 48:02
  They use the car again in another scene while they're looking across
• 48:05
  the street at a black slant nosed 930.
• 48:08
  And DB Sweeney turns to Charlie Sheen and he goes, Why don't we just take
• 48:12
  the Ferrari and Charlie Sheen's like, ah, that's Italian trash, right?
• 48:16
  And then he's got his eyes on, eyes on this, this 930.
• 48:20
  And I'm like, I just didn't understand.
• 48:22
  I wanted to know whose car that maybe that's Ron Howard's car or
• 48:25
  Dick Wolf's car or something like it just didn't make sense to have such
• 48:28
  an expensive vehicle in the scene.
• 48:31
  It just was out of place with the rest of the cars.
• 48:33
  I had an issue with the inconsistencies started with the first driving sequence
• 48:37
  after he goes to rescue Charlie Sheen from the top of like, I don't know,
• 48:41
  Mulholland Drive or something, right?
• 48:43
  Cause it takes place in California, like everything else.
• 48:45
  And it's in the middle of the night and it's a cabrio.
• 48:48
  This was the first time I noticed that they switched
• 48:50
  cars midway through the scene.
• 48:53
  Being a Porsche guy, you kind of tell these things with the headlights on a 911.
• 48:58
  There's three different styles of headlights.
• 48:59
  There's this like really small kind of six inch round with
• 49:02
  this big surround around it.
• 49:04
  And that's a U S spec headlight.
• 49:06
  The early cars had a chrome surround and then the European cars had nothing.
• 49:10
  It was a big glass lens that makes the bug eyes look really, really big.
• 49:14
  And so you notice that they, they use three different gray cabrios and they're
• 49:19
  just from different eras for some reason, and they keep switching them up.
• 49:23
  But that wasn't the big problem.
• 49:25
  The big problem is they're going down this road and Charlie Sheen
• 49:28
  is literally goading him much like some of the scenes with Toretto and
• 49:31
  Brian, where he's like, go faster.
• 49:33
  You can go faster.
• 49:34
  Just push it.
• 49:34
  And they're driving kind of crazy down this windy road.
• 49:37
  And then they pan to DB Sweeney's feet and he goes into a corner and he
• 49:43
  pops the clutch and hits the brakes.
• 49:45
  And I'm like, What is going on?
• 49:47
  You're in a 9 11 and then the scene, they're completely sideways.
• 49:51
  And I'm like, was this on purpose or this is ridiculous.
• 49:54
  Right.
• 49:54
  And it's like, just some of the driving stuff was just, just nutty.
• 49:58
  And I'm like, I get it for a fact, but it just, it didn't look good.
• 50:02
  Is that my favorite being cell phone rings right after they
• 50:05
  steal the slant nose 9 11.
• 50:07
  And Charlie Sheen goes to go pick it up, and you hear the audio as he's
• 50:11
  kind of blip shifting and shifting gears, but you're looking at the
• 50:14
  stick shift and it's not moving.
• 50:16
  And I'm like, this is so messed up, right?
• 50:18
  It's just so bad editing, bad chase scenes, just bad
• 50:22
  consistency with the cars.
• 50:26
  But we haven't touched on We're getting there.
• 50:29
  The car chase scene.
• 50:32
  The one and only car chase scene in this movie.
• 50:34
  Unfortunately, I was hoping for more and there was only that one.
• 50:37
  And I know we all had special reactions to the realism of that car chase scene.
• 50:44
  Because unlike Gone in 60 Seconds, where the cars were actually doing the
• 50:49
  carnage, you know, we had the blue bus.
• 50:54
  School bus just launched and catapulted through the air.
• 51:01
  And then we had the Camaro that launched through the side of
• 51:06
  a Pepsi tractor trailer truck.
• 51:09
  And, and, and what, what came out of that truck, Jess?
• 51:12
  Uh, nothing.
• 51:13
  A conveniently empty.
• 51:15
  Pepsi tractor trailer.
• 51:17
  We believe that the budget wasn't enough that they could put soda cans in there
• 51:22
  to just hit them and explode them.
• 51:25
  I don't know that the budget was very high on this film outside of the Porsche's.
• 51:28
  But to Tanya's point that there is one chase scene, it lasts maybe a total
• 51:32
  of seven or eight minutes of those eight minutes, four of them are spent.
• 51:36
  Watching Charlie Sheen and DB Sweeney have a dialogue while they're hiding
• 51:39
  in a, basically in a warehouse.
• 51:41
  And they're talking about some girl and she's so pretty.
• 51:45
  Meanwhile, the Camaro is like lurking, like Knight Rider, just
• 51:48
  kind of like looking for them.
• 51:49
  And it's these two dudes, like one's this like greasy, like Eastern block guy.
• 51:54
  And the other dude is like some random Guido from New York.
• 51:57
  And they're like totally irrelevant to the story.
• 51:59
  You never really see them again.
• 52:01
  And they're actually confused with one of the major bad cops
• 52:04
  And the chasing is horrendous.
• 52:06
  The Camaro is a dog and this nine 30, you can hear them like short shifting it.
• 52:11
  And just like, they're doing like 30 miles an hour and they're doing a
• 52:14
  one wheel burnouts with the Camaro.
• 52:16
  And then the best part is when they go in to the warehouse, Camaro's like
• 52:20
  shiny and new looking or whatever.
• 52:23
  And they're just literally driving around there at five miles an hour.
• 52:26
  Looking for this Porsche, which is actually really easy to see because it's
• 52:29
  silver and everything else is black.
• 52:31
  You know, just dark.
• 52:32
  They drive right by him.
• 52:34
  You're like, okay, this is weird.
• 52:36
  And then there's this whole kerfuffle, and they pull out, and as soon as
• 52:39
  they pull out, which they go out the door they came in, the Camaro is
• 52:42
  completely bashed up in the front.
• 52:44
  Like, it's already been in 12 accidents.
• 52:46
  You're like, what the heck is going on here?
• 52:48
  Then, they T bone a Lincoln, that basically destroy it.
• 52:52
  Bus goes into the air, and I mean, I had seen the scene on YouTube, cause Tanya
• 52:56
  sent it to me, which is what really piqued my interest about this movie.
• 52:59
  When Jess saw the bus, go basically into orbit.
• 53:03
  She just busted out laughing.
• 53:05
  And then I was like, all right, we're good.
• 53:07
  We got another, you know, 35 minutes to go.
• 53:09
  We're going to make it to the end here.
• 53:11
  What a disaster that was.
• 53:12
  I mean, they could have cut the chasing out and it made no difference.
• 53:16
  Well, the chasing killed me too.
• 53:17
  Cause I'm like, come on, really?
• 53:19
  This Camaro was up the tail.
• 53:22
  It was nine 30.
• 53:22
  Like it couldn't shake him.
• 53:24
  And I know Dan's going to tell me, Well, it could have been a Z28, an iROC, and
• 53:30
  blah blah, and a 350, and 900 horsepower.
• 53:32
  Dude, it was an RS base model, two tone, T top turd.
• 53:38
  I mean, I can't get enough T's in there.
• 53:40
  This car was bottom of the barrel, off the used car lot.
• 53:44
  Like, there was nothing redeeming about this car.
• 53:46
  There was no way in hell.
• 53:48
  It was catching this 9 11 in real life.
• 53:50
  From the era of 200 horsepower V8s.
• 53:54
  Yeah, yeah.
• 53:57
  You never heard the audio from the Camaro.
• 53:58
  You just heard the 9 11s.
• 53:59
  And that's one thing I will give them credit for.
• 54:02
  There are many movies that use the sound of a 9 11.
• 54:06
  And you guys have heard this on the, the name, that tune episode that we did.
• 54:10
  It's a very distinct sound.
• 54:11
  I hear it all the time in movies.
• 54:12
  And I just cringe when they show a Honda civic and it's got
• 54:15
  a nine 11 sound or something.
• 54:16
  I'm just like, Oh God, this movie was legitimate sounds.
• 54:20
  When they fired up a nine 11 in the background, you heard it.
• 54:22
  It was the actual sound when they were using it in a scene.
• 54:25
  It was the actual car.
• 54:27
  And you can tell that sound and it sounded good, but yeah, that was a disaster
• 54:30
  and we're gonna post the link To the chase scene as part of the show notes
• 54:34
  because it's available on youtube So you can check it out for yourself and
• 54:37
  have a good laugh It's definitely worth it and obviously check out the film.
• 54:40
  It's still available on voodoo if you're interested But any final comments?
• 54:46
  I chose to watch it because I apparently had nothing else to
• 54:50
  do in my life at that moment.
• 54:52
  You know, it's kind of typical Zadie, 80s movie, um, so I wasn't
• 54:56
  going into it expecting too much.
• 54:59
  It met those expectations, so I wasn't neither pleased nor overly displeased.
• 55:04
  I will say, I got all the way to the end, and the end scene,
• 55:15
  not to give spoilers away, because there's people who haven't seen it, and they
• 55:18
  might want to go watch this movie, but it kind of just ends, and I'm, and I sat
• 55:23
  there, and I'm laying on my couch, and I'm like, did this just end like this?
• 55:28
  And then it goes black, and the credits come up, and I literally sat up.
• 55:32
  And said to no one, what a trash movie.
• 55:35
  It was, it was special.
• 55:37
  It, it at least had a plot, whether it was a good one or not.
• 55:41
  It had one, unlike the gone in 60 seconds, which the plot was just to
• 55:46
  have a 40 minute car chase scene, but at least there was a plot here.
• 55:50
  The acting was.
• 55:51
  It's probably on par for the timeframe.
• 55:54
  I mean, I wouldn't say either of them are truly, you know, Golden Globe
• 56:00
  Academy Award winning actors, clearly.
• 56:02
  I mean, you don't see D.
• 56:05
  B.
• 56:05
  Sweeney doing too much after Cutting Edge and whatnot, and well,
• 56:08
  we all know Charlie Sheen, so.
• 56:10
  Well, I'll just say, I didn't have the displeasure of watching this,
• 56:14
  but if you want a movie with Charlie Sheen and a good car chase, go for it.
• 56:18
  You need to watch the chase from 1994.
• 56:20
  That's a like OJ Simpson style, slow highway chase.
• 56:23
  So since I haven't seen the movie, but you guys have referred to it as possibly
• 56:29
  an older concept of Fast and Furious, it makes me wonder for the fact car culture
• 56:34
  wasn't as big, but when Fast and Furious came out, the whole import tuner scene was
• 56:38
  starting to grow and becoming a big thing.
• 56:41
  It makes you wonder if there would have been that car scene at that time.
• 56:44
  Would there have been more of it?
• 56:45
  Would it have grown?
• 56:47
  Would it have become a franchise much like Fast and the Furious has?
• 56:50
  Well, if you'd seen the last scene, no.
• 56:53
  Yeah, that's true.
• 56:55
  I don't want to spoil it for you, so you gotta watch it.
• 56:58
  You can watch it for free on Mubu, and you can let us know about that.
• 57:01
  But I will say, in closing, there is something special about 80s movie and TV.
• 57:07
  It's something my dad used to call the obligatory toilet scene.
• 57:10
  And for whatever reason, there's always like a toilet or bathroom
• 57:14
  scene, like in movies from the 80s.
• 57:16
  And I don't want to spoil it, but there is one in this movie and when I saw it,
• 57:20
  I busted up laughing I was just like well They need they need to shoot a scene
• 57:25
  somewhere where they can do their coke and not get caught They need to be able to
• 57:28
  clean up easy And that's the only way they get through those movies All right, so up
• 57:35
  next is our final film, which is The Lost Bullet, another recommendation from Tanya.
• 57:40
  I'm going to continue to use that word if she doesn't like it.
• 57:42
  It is a newer film from 2020, available on Netflix, and the upside is you can
• 57:48
  watch it in the original French with subtitles, which we did, and I know Tanya
• 57:51
  did as well, but it is actually dubbed in English, so you can watch it in just
• 57:55
  without having to deal with the subtitles or learning French or anything like that.
• 57:59
  I think the first question about this movie, if you watch it,
• 58:01
  is, is it really a car movie?
• 58:03
  And I'd like to argue yes, and we'll, I think we'll get to that.
• 58:06
  For a second, I thought you were going to throw the recommendation
• 58:09
  blame on me, because I remember sending you a message about it.
• 58:11
  I recall your response being, well, I guess I have to now, because the reason
• 58:15
  I watched this movie was a friend of mine had watched it, and threw the question
• 58:19
  out there being like, hey, all my friends that weld, have you watched this movie?
• 58:23
  So I was intrigued.
• 58:24
  I'm like, okay, well, let me have a look at this.
• 58:26
  Within the first, like, 30 seconds of the movie, you see some really horrible welds.
• 58:31
  And it's like, Okay, and then you see what those welds on the car are
• 58:35
  supposed to hold up to later and you're like, yeah, that wouldn't happen.
• 58:38
  Although I am intrigued by the design of how he uses the stuff to hook vehicles
• 58:43
  and everything, but is it a car movie?
• 58:46
  I would say yes, in a sense it does have like some chase
• 58:49
  scenes and things like that.
• 58:50
  The storyline is not so much car based in a sense.
• 58:54
  But it is for the fact that, like, the Citroen or whatever
• 58:57
  it was, I don't even know.
• 58:58
  Renault.
• 58:59
  Okay.
• 59:01
  Anyway.
• 59:01
  R21 Turbo!
• 59:03
  Yeah, so.
• 59:04
  2 liter!
• 59:05
  2 liter!
• 59:05
  Yes.
• 59:06
  So, obviously, it was a very key vehicle for the characters in the movie.
• 59:11
  For me, not being a fan, I was like, okay, it's just another square car.
• 59:14
  Right up your alley!
• 59:14
  Another square car!
• 59:16
  No, no, no.
• 59:17
  Square bodies and square cars are different.
• 59:20
  And that was why I sent it to you, because I know you're into,
• 59:21
  like, European cars, so that's why I asked you if you'd seen it.
• 59:24
  Because I was curious, I figured you'd hit me back, like, yeah, this
• 59:26
  is the significance of this car.
• 59:28
  But, so, I'm sure there's some history to that car, and it's, it being as
• 59:32
  pristine in that movie, and why it was such a possession of the owner of it.
• 59:37
  But, as a car movie, I would say, yeah, but it also had a storyline
• 59:41
  that went away from car stuff.
• 59:42
  I'll put my two cents in there.
• 59:44
  I felt it was a modern take on a Statham movie, with all French cast.
• 59:50
  I really like the main actor.
• 59:52
  I thought he did a good job.
• 59:53
  I like the fight scenes I thought they were really raw Compared
• 59:56
  to some of the overly produced action movies we see these days.
• 59:59
  I like the way it was filmed.
• 1:00:00
  I thought it had a good story.
• 1:00:01
  It kept me interested the entire time.
• 1:00:03
  You know, I didn't start to snooze halfway through it.
• 1:00:05
  It was, it was just good.
• 1:00:06
  It was inviting.
• 1:00:07
  I will add a piece of color for the anime fans out there.
• 1:00:11
  I thought Shiraz played by Ramzi Badia.
• 1:00:15
  I thought he would be a good casting choice for the Golgo 13 movie.
• 1:00:20
  So if you've ever seen that anime, Uh, GoGo13 is what they
• 1:00:23
  based the professional off of.
• 1:00:25
  So he's an assassin, all this kind of thing.
• 1:00:26
  He looks exactly like him.
• 1:00:28
  So I thought that was kind of cool.
• 1:00:29
  I was sad to, you know, see his character removed from the
• 1:00:32
  story, but it was important that, you know, to, to progress it.
• 1:00:36
  I, I saw it on Netflix.
• 1:00:38
  And the cover art, which I think they've changed recently, so when I saw it on
• 1:00:41
  Netflix, the cover art was the R21, with like this, uh, demolition rug end on it,
• 1:00:49
  in what seemed to be a chase scene of some sort, and I think I actually, like,
• 1:00:52
  Googled, and like, YouTubed And then I caught like a glimpse of the chase scene.
• 1:00:57
  I was like, all right, I'm, uh, gonna watch this, um, all the way through.
• 1:01:01
  Um, and I wasn't sure what I was going to get because, okay, it's
• 1:01:05
  a French movie, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:01:07
  But I thought it was a actually pretty decent action movie,
• 1:01:11
  which I think is car adjacent.
• 1:01:13
  Maybe it's not in the same way as Fast and the Furious, but I
• 1:01:17
  feel like it has the potential.
• 1:01:19
  To sort of generate sequels that they take it in that direction.
• 1:01:23
  Cause there were parts throughout the movie where it was very suggestive
• 1:01:26
  that there could be more to having the cars involvement in the storyline.
• 1:01:32
  There was a scene in the, in sort of the end of the first half of it.
• 1:01:36
  Where they kind of go into that little garage, and there's just a line of, I
• 1:01:39
  don't know, a dozen Renaults of, you know, every color of the rainbow sitting
• 1:01:43
  there, and you're like, salivating.
• 1:01:46
  Megan R.
• 1:01:47
  S.
• 1:01:47
  's to be very, very particular about.
• 1:01:49
  I was super geeked about that scene.
• 1:01:51
  I was like, where are we going now?
• 1:01:54
  I will take the black one.
• 1:01:55
  And the red one, thank you very much.
• 1:01:57
  Exactly.
• 1:01:58
  I was like, ooh, this is going to get really good.
• 1:02:00
  We're going to have like this chase scene down the highways with all
• 1:02:02
  these cars zipping back and forth.
• 1:02:03
  And they didn't do anything with it.
• 1:02:05
  And it's like, oh, okay.
• 1:02:06
  But it left, I feel like they, they, they used it in its
• 1:02:10
  potential for maybe a sequel.
• 1:02:12
  And there's a Forbes article.
• 1:02:14
  that talks about this movie and kind of reviews it.
• 1:02:16
  And it gave it a fairly positive review, and at the end, uh, they were saying that
• 1:02:20
  the main, the main actor there, Alvin Lenoir, so according to Alvin Lenoir, Lost
• 1:02:26
  Bullet was written with sequels in mind.
• 1:02:28
  So maybe A future sequel will have more cars in it.
• 1:02:31
  You, you were, you were reminding me of something.
• 1:02:33
  Cause there is one part of the movie that I didn't understand.
• 1:02:36
  And maybe Tanya read more about it and she can fill me in.
• 1:02:38
  Do you guys remember the scene where he's kind of in the dark
• 1:02:43
  and he asked to work longer in the police, uh, the motor pool there.
• 1:02:47
  And he's building a motor and you never see the car that he's putting it in, but
• 1:02:51
  you can tell he's building a race engine.
• 1:02:53
  Cause he's got independent throttle bodies and a bunch of other stuff.
• 1:02:55
  And it's up on the engine crane.
• 1:02:57
  Yeah.
• 1:02:57
  He kind of rolls it away and then they pan away and they go somewhere
• 1:03:01
  else and you never see it again.
• 1:03:02
  And I thought that he was building this R 21, but in reality that was,
• 1:03:07
  you know, Shiraz's car or whatever.
• 1:03:09
  So I'm wondering if that's gonna be a thread that they pull
• 1:03:13
  through into the next movie.
• 1:03:15
  Or we were just supposed to ignore that as just something that didn't get put
• 1:03:18
  on the cutting room floor So with that engine when he's asking to work longer
• 1:03:23
  that was so if I recall the timeline correctly That's when he was still on kind
• 1:03:27
  of like the work release from the prison and they're like, okay Yeah, we'll buy
• 1:03:30
  you some more time to do this Then like they were saying like the whole romance
• 1:03:33
  aspect with him and the one character It's out of the blue that I go for nine
• 1:03:37
  months So who knows what happened to that engine during that nine months?
• 1:03:41
  So it may have wound up in one of those cars for all we know But It
• 1:03:44
  would definitely be interesting.
• 1:03:46
  That may have just been their filler, but it's hard to tell.
• 1:03:49
  It possibly does lend itself.
• 1:03:52
  There's different aspects, just like the scene where they go
• 1:03:54
  into the garage with the 10 or 12 Magallans that are sitting there.
• 1:03:59
  It's like, Ooh, this is exciting, but we didn't do anything with it.
• 1:04:01
  Is that also another thread that's going to, you know,
• 1:04:05
  they're setting the scene here.
• 1:04:06
  They set a scene in this first movie to develop later movies, maybe.
• 1:04:10
  I don't know.
• 1:04:10
  We'll have to see.
• 1:04:11
  I would love to see that motor in their Ford Mondeo.
• 1:04:17
  So we talked about movies.
• 1:04:18
  It feels like I thought it also gave me a little bit of handsome
• 1:04:23
  Rob from the Italian job.
• 1:04:24
  So if you remember that the original movie or the remake state them played
• 1:04:28
  handsome Rob, who is the mechanic that was souping up the mini Coopers.
• 1:04:31
  So it had also that a little bit of tribute to that in my mind with him
• 1:04:35
  working in the garage and all that kind of stuff, because that's the whole premise,
• 1:04:38
  like the whole setup at the very start, which is why I was a little mad at it.
• 1:04:41
  Was that like he's some kind of genius?
• 1:04:45
  You know, he can make a, a Renault Clio that can go through four concrete walls.
• 1:04:51
  Oh my God.
• 1:04:51
  You know, like, you know, he's an absolute genius fabricator.
• 1:04:56
  And so, yeah, like they show that whole room, you're like, Oh my God,
• 1:04:59
  how is he going to trick these?
• 1:05:01
  Oh.
• 1:05:02
  And then like, Okay.
• 1:05:04
  But of course the hooks on the front of the two liter.
• 1:05:08
  I'm just going to keep calling it the two liter.
• 1:05:10
  That was amazing.
• 1:05:11
  And when it like yanked, the back axle, I was like, I was just
• 1:05:16
  like, Oh my God, I love this.
• 1:05:17
  But like, yeah, there's a lot of potential for them to like,
• 1:05:20
  showcase the talents of that.
• 1:05:21
  Um, and they, They removed all the other people in his storyline.
• 1:05:25
  So it's pretty clear to ask whoever the hell they want.
• 1:05:33
  My opinion, we left the door open with, with how it ended is, you
• 1:05:37
  know, the storyline he he's, he's got his sordid past and he ends
• 1:05:41
  up, you know, busting through this jewelry store for walls of concrete.
• 1:05:46
  He overshot, he didn't even spring his wrist.
• 1:05:51
  He was perfect.
• 1:05:51
  I mean, he wasn't a harness.
• 1:05:53
  Um, he mistricked out Cleo and then he, the harness gets stuck so he
• 1:05:57
  can't get out of the car and he gets arrested and he goes to jail.
• 1:05:59
  But then the police recognize this detective on this drug task force
• 1:06:04
  recognizes the potential in this guy.
• 1:06:06
  In these cars.
• 1:06:08
  And they're in this task force that are these drug sellers are constantly getting
• 1:06:13
  away and really fast BMWs and other cars.
• 1:06:16
  And so they're always having to do chases.
• 1:06:17
  And so they want him to utilize his skills in beefing up their cars
• 1:06:21
  to be able to chase the go fast.
• 1:06:27
  They called them the go fast, but that was similar to the fast
• 1:06:31
  and the furious at that point.
• 1:06:32
  I was going to say, I mean, at that point, aren't you, isn't that like
• 1:06:35
  saying, Hey, you were really good at dealing drugs on the street.
• 1:06:38
  Why don't you be a pharmacist?
• 1:06:39
  Well, they pulled him in while he was still basically incarcerated and
• 1:06:43
  they were having him do side work.
• 1:06:45
  And then they pulled him out.
• 1:06:46
  Um, basically they, they said, if you come work for us and you're our personal
• 1:06:50
  mechanic, essentially, we're kind of going to levy the rest of your charges
• 1:06:54
  here and reduce your, your sentence.
• 1:06:56
  And then the whole thing happens, and then he's accused of, of murder, basically,
• 1:07:01
  and then the rest of the movie, and he didn't do it, and the rest of the movie
• 1:07:04
  is him trying to prove his innocence.
• 1:07:06
  Marvelous things with the, the two liter ensue towards the end of the movie, and
• 1:07:11
  there's, there's a nice chase scene at the end with it, et cetera, et cetera.
• 1:07:14
  But basically that leaves you all the way to the end, it all gets
• 1:07:17
  resolved and you're like, well I can see this, the sequel opening
• 1:07:20
  up, okay, he's proven himself, he's the fabricator, the driver, etc.
• 1:07:26
  This task force expands, they get new people on it, they've got him,
• 1:07:30
  they're running around doing Fast and the Furious stuff, but with cars, I
• 1:07:33
  mean, there's potential here, let's, hopefully they do something with it.
• 1:07:37
  It'll be season two of The Viper.
• 1:07:39
  So I felt it had the same grit as the Transporter.
• 1:07:42
  Like, to me, it felt more like that than it did the Fast and the Furious.
• 1:07:46
  And I'm okay with that, because in the same way that the Transporter
• 1:07:49
  was car adjacent, so was this movie.
• 1:07:52
  So, the car, you know, that seventh series that Statham drove
• 1:07:55
  in the first one, it wasn't the star, but it got your attention.
• 1:07:59
  And so did that Renault 21, and we'll talk about that in a minute.
• 1:08:02
  So, I'll definitely agree with you with it having more Transporter
• 1:08:05
  vibe than Fast and Furious vibe.
• 1:08:07
  Now On the storyline though, one thing that I found disappointing is the go fast.
• 1:08:12
  You never really see any chases going after them.
• 1:08:14
  You hear them talk about them, but you never see them.
• 1:08:17
  You know, it's like they're this huge issue, but you would
• 1:08:21
  think there would have been more chase scenes involving that.
• 1:08:24
  You know, even if they are being outran, it would have been cool to have
• 1:08:28
  shown where they're being outran some.
• 1:08:30
  So there was the one scene where he's chasing the five series BMW.
• 1:08:35
  And that they were part of the go fast.
• 1:08:37
  That was the only time there was kind of a real chase scene with them.
• 1:08:40
  But the scene that they did with the, with the Renault 21, with the hooks on
• 1:08:44
  the front of it, those were dirty cops.
• 1:08:47
  And so you started to, as you went through the movie, you started
• 1:08:49
  to realize that the cops are part of the go fast syndicate as well.
• 1:08:53
  So I think we got to go fast chase scenes out of that at the end of the day.
• 1:08:58
  Well, it could have been budget stuff too, because like when I, when I watched it,
• 1:09:02
  There's a lot going on in the storyline.
• 1:09:04
  And, and it's, it's hard to follow a little bit at first.
• 1:09:08
  And then, a couple of pieces, when a couple of the cops turn out to be dirty,
• 1:09:11
  then a lot of the pieces fall into place and a lot of stuff makes sense.
• 1:09:15
  Like I said, my, my initial purpose for watching it was
• 1:09:17
  just for the first 30 seconds.
• 1:09:19
  And then somehow I watched it for the rest of it.
• 1:09:22
  And it was all over the really lousy welds in the first 30 seconds of the movie.
• 1:09:25
  But as I watched it, I really was liking the idea of the stuff he was welding
• 1:09:29
  and building and it gave me ideas.
• 1:09:31
  I wouldn't mind building something like that.
• 1:09:34
  I mean, let's jump back to that Clio for a second.
• 1:09:36
  I mean, it was the ugliest generation of the Clio hands down.
• 1:09:41
  I mean, it looks like just, I don't know, it's awful, but he sticks a
• 1:09:44
  V10 Lamborghini engine mid ship.
• 1:09:47
  Right.
• 1:09:47
  And you're like, this is ridiculous.
• 1:09:49
  Like I was like, man, you're going to lose me about five minutes into this
• 1:09:52
  movie if it's going to be like this.
• 1:09:54
  And when he blows through the wall, the walls, plural,
• 1:09:58
  and just starts cracking up.
• 1:10:00
  I'm like, Oh man.
• 1:10:01
  Okay.
• 1:10:02
  Where are we going to go from here?
• 1:10:03
  I'm giving you one last shot.
• 1:10:05
  And the car stalls, he gets locked up.
• 1:10:07
  I was like, Oh, thank God we didn't go on some 20 minute ridiculous,
• 1:10:12
  you know, blowing flames and lights under the car chasing.
• 1:10:15
  So I was like, this is a little bit more realistic.
• 1:10:17
  It's like completely absurd.
• 1:10:18
  But then that was like some levity right up front to get me engaged.
• 1:10:23
  You know, it finally tipped the, tipped me over and then I was like, all right, where
• 1:10:26
  are we, where are we going from here?
• 1:10:27
  And it got super interesting.
• 1:10:28
  So i'm glad to see that even the later stuff when he modified the r21 Wasn't
• 1:10:34
  totally out of the realm of possibility You could tell there was definitely
• 1:10:38
  weight on the front end of that car It was picking the picking the rear end up and
• 1:10:41
  stuff like that and none of the driving was anything absolutely ridiculous like,
• 1:10:45
  you know, somebody's jumping jersey walls and You know, flying over cars and buses
• 1:10:50
  are going into orbit and stuff like that.
• 1:10:52
  It was, it was pretty low key, but that's what I think kept it
• 1:10:55
  interesting and kept it exciting.
• 1:10:57
  I'll say it was closer to realistic.
• 1:10:59
  Although I think the amount of steel on the front of that
• 1:11:01
  car, the front suspension would not have held it in reality.
• 1:11:04
  So I'm going to say those old mattress springs, they
• 1:11:06
  used to suspension back then.
• 1:11:07
  That was not, not, not high performance stuff.
• 1:11:10
  It wouldn't, it wouldn't look like, uh, you know, the guys that do the stunt
• 1:11:13
  stuff on street bikes, have the metal plates on the bottom of their shoes
• 1:11:16
  and kick off all the sparks flying up when they're dragging their feet.
• 1:11:19
  That's what the front end of that car would have looked like going down the
• 1:11:20
  road with the amount of weight from all that steel on it, in my opinion.
• 1:11:23
  So, you know, since we've brought it up, let's talk about this car.
• 1:11:27
  Like, nobody, you just, like you said, you look at it, you're like,
• 1:11:30
  Eh, it's a box, you know, with, it looks like a box from the 80s, like
• 1:11:34
  all the rest of them, you know.
• 1:11:35
  It happens to have wraparound headlights, so it might be from the late 80s.
• 1:11:40
  And you look at it, it's nothing special.
• 1:11:41
  And when Tanya sent me the picture, I said, Rawr!
• 1:11:44
  That's a Citroen.
• 1:11:45
  And she's like, no, look closer.
• 1:11:46
  And I had to like kind of zoom in.
• 1:11:47
  And then I saw the Renault Diamond on the hood.
• 1:11:50
  At first glance, you know, the Citroen BX is a similar looking car.
• 1:11:55
  And that's what I thought it was.
• 1:11:56
  And most people that aren't into French cars aren't going to know that either.
• 1:11:59
  But what they are going to know is, And he 30 M three, they're going
• 1:12:04
  to know the Ford Sierra Cosworth.
• 1:12:06
  They're going to know the Mercedes one 90 E the alpha one 55 and cars like that.
• 1:12:10
  They're all of the same, same generation.
• 1:12:13
  And the Renault R 21 was France's answer to especially the Ford Sierra Cosworth.
• 1:12:19
  And so for the French people, it's a sports saloon, right?
• 1:12:23
  It's a sports saloon.
• 1:12:24
  It's a sports car that unfortunately was overshadowed by the R5, and by
• 1:12:28
  the Clio, and some of the other, you know, hot hatches of the same era.
• 1:12:32
  But, you'd probably be surprised to know that that little two
• 1:12:35
  liter Puts out 175 horsepower.
• 1:12:38
  So for that time period, for a car that was built 1986 and only ran to 1994,
• 1:12:44
  that's pretty good power for back in those days, especially in a front wheel drive.
• 1:12:48
  You know, looks can be deceiving.
• 1:12:49
  I was kind of hoping it was a rear wheel drive.
• 1:12:51
  Cause that would have made it a little bit more special, especially
• 1:12:53
  trying to compete with the E30 M3 and a lot of those other cars.
• 1:12:56
  Apparently it was built all over the world in Argentina.
• 1:13:00
  It was built in the United States and Canada and Turkey
• 1:13:03
  and down in Columbia as well.
• 1:13:06
  And I mentioned the United States and Canada.
• 1:13:08
  And would anybody like to venture a guess what the Renault 21 was
• 1:13:12
  sold as in the United States?
• 1:13:14
  I'm intrigued.
• 1:13:15
  It's on Cintra?
• 1:13:16
  No, not today.
• 1:13:17
  Yeah, yeah, it would be today.
• 1:13:19
  I was trying to find the photo of it again.
• 1:13:21
  So I could look at it.
• 1:13:22
  It's a Panaz.
• 1:13:27
  Oh, no, I'm staring at it.
• 1:13:29
  Like it, it's familiar, but I'm not, I'm not seeing it.
• 1:13:32
  Okay, so, Would have been probably a Chrysler, like, uh, Very good.
• 1:13:38
  your cloud car.
• 1:13:40
  Very good.
• 1:13:40
  Very close to the money there, Chrissy.
• 1:13:43
  Mid year production, 1989, it was sold in the United States as the Eagle Medallion.
• 1:13:48
  So they changed the front clip and the badge, you know, headlights were
• 1:13:53
  basically the same and all that, and sold it, sold the Renault 21 here with
• 1:13:57
  a lesser motor, non turbo, eight valve, in the United States for like one year.
• 1:14:01
  And that was it.
• 1:14:02
  So.
• 1:14:03
  If you are really in love with that car and can find one in your
• 1:14:06
  local scrapyard, you too can, can build the car from the movie.
• 1:14:09
  But with that being said, you're telling me it's some weird twisted
• 1:14:13
  cousin to the eagle talent.
• 1:14:15
  Yes, just for you.
• 1:14:16
  Absolutely.
• 1:14:18
  You know, nothing to write home about from our perspective, especially
• 1:14:22
  it's Fort saloons of the day, but you know, to the French people, it was
• 1:14:26
  their version of the Sierra Cosworth.
• 1:14:28
  Right.
• 1:14:28
  And it was up there.
• 1:14:29
  It was the underdog.
• 1:14:30
  And there's tons of articles about it.
• 1:14:31
  I think Jalopnik did one and a bunch of others about this unsung hero of, you
• 1:14:35
  know, French automobiles, et cetera.
• 1:14:36
  But I think it was cool to see something different featured in a film.
• 1:14:40
  It wasn't the same Porsche, Ferrari, Mitsubishi, BMW that, you know, you
• 1:14:45
  always see in every action movie.
• 1:14:47
  It was.
• 1:14:48
  It's a French car for a change, multiple French cars in the movie.
• 1:14:52
  One thing you were saying how this car in particular wasn't some flashy, you know,
• 1:14:56
  Porsche, Ferrari, or anything like that.
• 1:14:58
  I think that helped the storyline because it made you pay more attention to the
• 1:15:01
  storyline because for me, the car didn't, it was no bells and whistles for me.
• 1:15:04
  So the car was like, okay, it's just a car that something special is about it.
• 1:15:07
  But it made me pay more attention to the storyline instead of
• 1:15:10
  paying attention to the car.
• 1:15:11
  I think Jess brought up something really important as we watched the film, which
• 1:15:15
  was there were a ton of station wagons.
• 1:15:18
  They were all over the place.
• 1:15:20
  The, uh, the female detective, she was, the car chasing at the end,
• 1:15:24
  she was in a BMW wagon, right?
• 1:15:26
  Like half the, the, the vehicles for the police staff were wagons.
• 1:15:31
  I was like, what?
• 1:15:32
  So Detective Moss drove an E46 station wagon, and not the wimpy one that we got
• 1:15:37
  for like a couple of years here in the U.
• 1:15:39
  S.
• 1:15:39
  It was actually a legit E46 station wagon.
• 1:15:41
  It's very cool, all black.
• 1:15:43
  And then Julia, Ends up driving it in one of the last sequences.
• 1:15:47
  And I also a quote from Jessica, uh, we got, what, halfway through the
• 1:15:51
  movie and you were like, is she ever going to talk other than the word?
• 1:15:54
  No, because she only said no, like during the first half of the movie.
• 1:15:58
  And that was it.
• 1:15:58
  Like, I didn't know what was going on.
• 1:16:00
  And I think the love interests between our main character, Lino
• 1:16:04
  and Julia was kind of interesting.
• 1:16:06
  They, they unpack that in a weird way.
• 1:16:08
  I will just say it is unclear.
• 1:16:11
  For too long that nine months have passed, they're just sort of like fast forward.
• 1:16:16
  There's no little like nine months later and like a full like 15 minutes.
• 1:16:21
  It's like, so in these past nine months, I was like, thank you.
• 1:16:25
  Thank you.
• 1:16:26
  Exposition.
• 1:16:27
  Otherwise I have no idea what's happening because they literally let him see
• 1:16:30
  the picture of his like new team.
• 1:16:33
  And then it's nine months later and they're having like a lover's quarrel.
• 1:16:36
  And they're not talking to each other.
• 1:16:37
  We have nothing to fill that in.
• 1:16:40
  Now, I will say Jess also asked me at one point, we're talking about the
• 1:16:43
  claw, she was like, is, is that legit?
• 1:16:46
  And I said, well, technically the other car was a Ford
• 1:16:48
  Mondeo, it's front wheel drive.
• 1:16:50
  Yes.
• 1:16:50
  If the claws are long enough and you grab the rear axle,
• 1:16:52
  you Basically could do that.
• 1:16:54
  I thought it was hilarious when they pushed it into the police barricade.
• 1:16:58
  That was really cool.
• 1:16:59
  I mean, again, it was more authentic than a lot of other chase scenes and, and,
• 1:17:03
  and things like that, where there wasn't the big, massive, big budget explosions.
• 1:17:08
  I thought the fact that it was more low key gave it just more grit and more
• 1:17:12
  realism and more credibility as a movie.
• 1:17:14
  I enjoyed that.
• 1:17:15
  And I thought it, I thought it was really fun.
• 1:17:17
  So I like the cast.
• 1:17:18
  I thought they worked well together.
• 1:17:20
  I mean, they're no name to me, but in the same way I enjoyed Money Heist, I kind of
• 1:17:24
  very quickly became comfortable with them.
• 1:17:27
  I enjoyed them.
• 1:17:28
  I want to see more of the cast, even Moss, who was kind of a,
• 1:17:31
  like, she was really hard nosed.
• 1:17:33
  I want to see more of all these characters working together.
• 1:17:36
  I was really disappointed to see Shiraz, uh, die.
• 1:17:39
  I mean, that's a spoiler there, but it kind of wraps us into
• 1:17:42
  the end of this talk track about whether or not it's a car movie.
• 1:17:45
  And for me, I really thought it was a car movie because the end scene when
• 1:17:52
  Lino builds basically that funeral pyre for Shiraz with the car covered
• 1:17:58
  with the flowers, you know, post the burn and all that ridiculousness that
• 1:18:02
  happened, it was really touching.
• 1:18:04
  And the way they finished it, where they zoomed in, On the picture of
• 1:18:08
  Shiras in the car, kind of doing like the what's up peace sign, you know, it
• 1:18:12
  was, it was kind of touching for me.
• 1:18:14
  I mean, it didn't bring a tear to my eye, but it was like, as a
• 1:18:16
  car guy, I was like, I got you.
• 1:18:18
  I was like, I get this.
• 1:18:20
  Like there, he had that love affair with the car and there was
• 1:18:23
  a slight tie in because it was a staple in the French police force.
• 1:18:27
  And Lino made a comment about how his dad had one.
• 1:18:30
  So that was the first insight to his backstory and to how
• 1:18:33
  his dad was a police officer.
• 1:18:35
  But they never touched it again.
• 1:18:37
  So for me, it kind of brought it all together.
• 1:18:39
  And I don't know, I thought it was just really sweet and touching
• 1:18:42
  and it turned it into a car movie.
• 1:18:44
  It definitely showed his appreciation for the car, especially when
• 1:18:48
  the main character was trying to see if he could drive it.
• 1:18:51
  And the guy's like, no, you're not driving.
• 1:18:53
  I truly understand that.
• 1:18:55
  My sister to this day is mad the fact I won't let her
• 1:18:57
  drive a couple of my vehicles.
• 1:18:58
  I'm like, sorry, you're not driving.
• 1:19:00
  So, but that's just how I am.
• 1:19:01
  Certain vehicles people don't drive are the ones I don't want.
• 1:19:04
  I can appreciate that.
• 1:19:05
  I was just going to say that I really enjoyed the movie.
• 1:19:07
  I thought just from a, as a whole, I just thought it was a good movie.
• 1:19:11
  It had a good story.
• 1:19:12
  The only thing that I didn't like about it or that was a little too Hollywood was
• 1:19:17
  beating up like 20 police officers and the police station to try and get out.
• 1:19:21
  I mean, that was a little.
• 1:19:22
  I don't even know if Jason Statham could have done that, but other than that,
• 1:19:26
  I thought it was a very good movie.
• 1:19:28
  I would watch it again.
• 1:19:29
  It was very entertaining.
• 1:19:30
  I'm looking forward to seeing more.
• 1:19:32
  I think you all mentioned earlier that this is, there are plans to
• 1:19:36
  bring it back, bring the group back, or do another sequel or something.
• 1:19:41
  I would definitely watch that.
• 1:19:43
  And I like the fact, as you all were saying earlier, that they've got all
• 1:19:47
  these, all these non flashy cars.
• 1:19:50
  Like these are enthusiast cars, like people, it's like us in the Mark Fours,
• 1:19:55
  like people get enthusiastic about the Renault Clios and the Megans and
• 1:20:00
  he loved his little two liter turbo.
• 1:20:02
  You know, you can't look, you can't touch the hood, anything under
• 1:20:05
  the hood of my two liter turbo.
• 1:20:06
  You better leave it alone.
• 1:20:07
  That's how I feel about my GTI.
• 1:20:09
  That's how you feel about your TT.
• 1:20:11
  I know we all feel that way about our little crap boxes.
• 1:20:14
  You know, other people on the outside don't get it, but it's not for
• 1:20:18
  them to get, it's for us to get it.
• 1:20:19
  So I kind, I connected with them because of their love for their cars and the
• 1:20:24
  love that I, and I assume that we all have, you know, for our own vehicles.
• 1:20:29
  I thought it was a good movie, though.
• 1:20:30
  I, I enjoyed it.
• 1:20:31
  So all in all, my initial purpose to watch it was for the first 30
• 1:20:34
  seconds to critique the lousy wading.
• 1:20:37
  I was impressed by it.
• 1:20:38
  It was a decent movie.
• 1:20:40
  I was intrigued the whole way through.
• 1:20:42
  It kept me interested, and it's definitely something I'd potentially watch again.
• 1:20:46
  Like I mentioned, the cover art is what initially drew me in, and then
• 1:20:51
  watching the preview further drew me in.
• 1:20:53
  And I thought it, I wasn't, didn't know what I was going to expect, and I
• 1:20:56
  listened to it in the need of the tongue.
• 1:20:57
  Um, the movie was great.
• 1:21:00
  Was made in and I thought it was going to be something that was just
• 1:21:03
  kind of, you know, even though I got to read the subtitles, I was
• 1:21:06
  like, I'll just have it in the background and jump in and out of it.
• 1:21:09
  And I found myself completely like, drawn into it and just watching it the whole
• 1:21:12
  way through it being way more entertaining than I thought it was going to be.
• 1:21:18
  And I actually, Brad, I like the, the, the action scene, the police
• 1:21:23
  fight in the police station of him trying to get out because it.
• 1:21:26
  Cause he's actually, he's actually a stunt man.
• 1:21:29
  So he's done stunts in some other, um, I'd have to look it back up,
• 1:21:32
  but there's actually some movies that we would all recognize that
• 1:21:35
  he's done stunt man work in.
• 1:21:37
  So like, he's really fighting in, in those scenes.
• 1:21:41
  Like they're not cutting and doing CGI and all this other stuff.
• 1:21:44
  So like, it felt, it felt real.
• 1:21:45
  It felt more interesting.
• 1:21:47
  I understand your point that it was a good scene, like movie wise.
• 1:21:51
  I just, as real to me as the rest of the movie felt.
• 1:21:56
  I just, I find it hard to believe that even if he is a stuntman, unless he's
• 1:22:00
  special forces or or something, he's not going to get away from 20 armed police
• 1:22:06
  officers inside the police precinct.
• 1:22:09
  like that.
• 1:22:10
  Granted, it wasn't easy.
• 1:22:11
  He had to sneak out the back door after almost getting caught, but
• 1:22:14
  still it felt very Chuck Norris to me.
• 1:22:18
  Dude, they're, they're French police officers.
• 1:22:20
  All right.
• 1:22:21
  I'm just going to lay it out there.
• 1:22:22
  I will, I will give you that.
• 1:22:23
  I'm surprised they didn't run the other way.
• 1:22:26
  They're going to yell, let's stop.
• 1:22:27
  Let's stop.
• 1:22:28
  No, and I have a great appreciation for all of my, you know, European neighbors,
• 1:22:33
  you know, being Italian, whatever.
• 1:22:34
  It's fine.
• 1:22:35
  But you know, all jokes aside, Jess, take us home.
• 1:22:38
  Me?
• 1:22:38
  I mean, I just, I agree with Tanya.
• 1:22:41
  You know, I thought, having watched the previous two movies, I really did
• 1:22:46
  think it was going to be a car movie.
• 1:22:47
  So imagine my delight when they start the fight scene and I was like, Oh, snap.
• 1:22:53
  Okay.
• 1:22:54
  Totally different kind of movie.
• 1:22:55
  Here for it.
• 1:22:57
  Absolutely here for it.
• 1:22:58
  So, and much like everyone else has said, I would happily watch that movie again.
• 1:23:03
  I really liked that actor.
• 1:23:04
  It turns out he's actually super famous.
• 1:23:06
  He's even been nominated for the French version of an Oscar.
• 1:23:09
  So he's pretty legit, but I was a big fan and the car scenes that were in
• 1:23:15
  that were what I was hoping the prior two movies completely failed to So
• 1:23:20
  I will add I know you guys said you watched it with English subtitles.
• 1:23:24
  I didn't realize that it was originally in French and had subtitles, because
• 1:23:27
  I must have got the version of it where the audio overrun it.
• 1:23:31
  So, it was actually in English, but I could tell, like, I thought the audio
• 1:23:34
  track was off a little bit, so that makes sense if it was originally in French.
• 1:23:37
  as to why some of their mouth moving didn't line up with the words being said.
• 1:23:40
  I thought it was just like, maybe my stream service
• 1:23:43
  wasn't that good at that time.
• 1:23:44
  But, you know, it is available to listen to in English if
• 1:23:47
  people don't want to read.
• 1:23:48
  Yeah, that's how I watched it.
• 1:23:49
  It was dubbed.
• 1:23:50
  The English, it defaults to the English or the audio.
• 1:23:54
  So I'll say of all the four movies we talked about tonight, the one
• 1:23:58
  that we can solidly recommend a consensus is the one we least expected
• 1:24:04
  to be good, which is a French film about an ex con driving a Renault.
• 1:24:08
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• 1:24:11
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• 1:24:12
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• 1:24:16
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• 1:24:18
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• 1:24:19
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