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Spiritual Bypassing, Sacred Rage & Emotional Healing | Honoring Human Emotions on the Spiritual Path · Eye Opener Society

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Hello everyone, welcome back to Eye Opener Society.
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I have a great little episode today because I'm very excited.
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There's nothing more, well, there's nothing that means more to me than the people that
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are in my life, Lizzie especially.
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It's great to see her.
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It's great to be back recording with her.
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And of course now our latest, newest minister, Halos, joins us too as well.
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And Halos has mentioned that she's been talking or at least thinking a lot about honoring
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human emotions while being spiritual and honoring both the light and the dark.
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So let's turn it over to Halos.
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Halos, how are you, my friend?
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I'm doing well, thank you.
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So yeah, this is something that's been coming up a lot for me because I noticed early in
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my healing journey, really what kind of gave me my spiritual awakening was Buddhism.
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And that's something that I really follow very closely is the religion of Buddhism,
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Buddhist teachings and beliefs and meditate daily.
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And what this does for me is it gives me a sense of my spiritual identity of being connected
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to everything.
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And I noticed that the more that I kind of lean into that spiritual identity, the more
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I tend to neglect my human identity or my human emotions because, you know, there's
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this feeling of, okay, I am God, I am this very powerful being.
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And with that, there comes a sense of almost superiority, like feeling like I don't need
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to have these emotions or I don't need to feel sad.
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And I think that this is very common in the spiritual community is bypassing human emotions
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because you realize that there is a way to feel joy and peace all the time.
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However, I feel like it's through honoring both the light and the dark that we are then
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able to really be our wholest and truest self.
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That's wonderful.
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Because this is something I sometimes confuse myself with same thing like me with meditating
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every day, learning more and more about spirituality and the God or at least the God mind where
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you are your own God, you are a creation, you are the universe.
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You do kind of lose some emotions because we're always taught to drop the ego.
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But yet sometimes we kind of put our emotions as part of our ego when I think they really
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need to be separated.
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So I struggle sometimes with that myself.
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But the other thing what I like about this, the light and the dark and our emotions, me
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as a Libra, just by design, I'm all about balance.
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We have to have our light and our dark or good and our bad.
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So I'm going to enjoy talking about this topic.
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So Lizzie, what are your thoughts?
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Oh, I love this topic.
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This kind of something that I focus on pretty frequently.
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The thing is, is I got I got stuck in the idea of kind of yeah, like attaching certain
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emotions to your ego, like you're not supposed to feel anger, right, you're supposed to get
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to a place where the other person's resonance can't affect you.
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And I was getting really good at that, just letting people's energy move through me.
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But the thing was, was it just kind of clamped down more and more and more.
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And it was because I was unknowingly bypassing anger.
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Because in my mind, anger meant like an unreasonable search of defensiveness.
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And if you're quantumly safe and infinitely abundant and whatever, like you don't need
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to protect, that's something we talk about all the time, that that is a shadow, the need
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to protect.
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But the thing is, is also there's something very sacred in like sacred rage, right?
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Like a mother protecting her child, a stranger protecting another stranger they see, there
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is something very beautiful about that.
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And you know, it's all beautiful in theory, to acknowledge that like, you don't need that,
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you can just like keep moving on.
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But there's a reason your resonance chose to witness that.
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You know what I mean?
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There's a reason that you looked over that way when that was happening.
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Because if you weren't meant to witness it, you wouldn't have noticed it.
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And I see this all the time in like groups of people, and I'll see something, you know,
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funny, not necessarily related to this, but like nobody else in the group saw it, everybody
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was looking off this other way.
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And it changes your entire experience.
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But the thing is, is I think that every single emotion has its purpose, but they're all multidimensional
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like we are.
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Like anger is protective, but anger is also where you realize a way that you're not being
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the expanded self.
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Sometimes it's not about protection.
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Sometimes it's about not even acknowledging something.
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Like if I like jealousy, for example, a lot of times jealousy comes from you seeing something
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you want, you didn't know you even wanted, but you have to like, let it show you what
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is trying to open.
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I love that you, yes, brought in jealousy specifically, because I just posted a video
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today on jealousy and how it's associated with a blockage in our third eye chakra.
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And so yes, these emotions are supposed to teach us about ourselves and we can't learn
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the lessons if we're bypassing them and simply saying, nope, I'm not going to look at this.
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I'm not going to deal with this because this isn't who I am.
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Like I am this all powerful being.
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Yes, you are.
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But like we are multidimensional.
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And I do notice like the more energy I do give a certain emotion, the more I'm able
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to learn from it.
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And that's another thing too, is like we have to realize that yes, we are souls, but we
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are also human beings and a human body.
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And with that, one of my favorite things, I'm actually a big studier of psychology and
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specifically trauma and how trauma relates to the somatic experience of having a body.
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And so your body remembers when you have trauma.
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And the thing is, if you're not honoring that and you're not like focused on the emotions
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that are in your body, then it will manifest into physical illnesses.
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And so it really does just emphasize the importance of right, like really becoming comfortable
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with these emotions and knowing that they don't have to overpower you, but allowing
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them to have space to express themselves.
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Oh, for sure, for sure.
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And it's hard because sometimes, I don't know about everybody else, but I feel my feelings
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like very intently, like through my whole body.
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I feel angry.
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I, you know, get tunnel vision for a second.
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That's just kind of like how I've always been.
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But this thing is, it moves you.
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It tells you things.
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I think that emotions are part of the human experience, but it's also part of the soul's
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experience.
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And I think the human experience does kind of have like a tinge of like almost the illusion
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you have to suffer.
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But I in part think that's because of the way that we've defined it, as I've like gotten
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used to sitting in the discomfort of my own, you know, jealousy or rage or grief or whatever.
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It stops being painful.
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It stops feeling like it's crushing you and you start feeling the different places in
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your body where things are moving.
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And then when it all moves and your brain does its thing where it like tells you a bunch
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of like lies about how the world is ending or, you know what I mean, whatever it's doing.
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When all that settles and you push all of that over to here where it's like, okay, well,
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actually, these are things I don't understand since they came up and smacked me in the face
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while I'm freaking out.
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It's like solutions just kind of come up, but that it's like it has to move first.
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Otherwise, you make decisions, same to your old product, because you have your nervous
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system remembers everything that you've been bringing.
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It's like trying to predict the future, which how do you relax into openness if you're used
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to bracing every time you feel that intense energy?
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I learned to just get excited about it, like, oh, okay, something's moving.
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And then I'll just like, you know, I'm Marco Polo, Gary, many times like crying obnoxiously
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over like this sad piece in this cartoon.
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And he's like, okay, Lizzie, sure.
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And it's not like I'm not acknowledging you.
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Well, this is great.
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Listen, I appreciate that, Lizzie.
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And I appreciate you.
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And I appreciate those Marco Polo's because you're being your authentic self.
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And I love that about you.
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But also, Halos, I love the fact you bring it up.
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This is very when it comes to like a psychology, because when we're talking amongst the three
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of us, that's great.
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But we're also speaking to a very wide audience.
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And most of our audience, I would like to believe we're all very spiritual.
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And this is something like I said, it's kind of conflicting in my life, because for many,
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many years, like I said, stuck in a 3D world, I was just based upon the 3D earth.
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And yes, emotions were one of the things that I just gone through, because I figured, well,
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that's just the human experience.
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This is the way we are.
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And then when I started getting into the spiritual community, and I started seeing things from
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a much different perspective, when I started gaining more momentum in my meditations, and
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it became more intense.
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I said, this is great.
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It's great to sit quiet and not worry about emotions.
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And then you get thrown right back into that 3D world.
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We do need to understand that there's separation.
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No one should, who's trying to be spiritual, shouldn't be told you have to be one way all
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the time and just disregard all emotions.
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Again, like I said, with jobs, some jobs that we have, it requires us some emotions.
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My job gets, there's sometimes a lot of anger.
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And I have to acknowledge that though.
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I have to acknowledge, yes, I'm being angry, but there's a cause behind it.
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I'm not doing it to lessen my spirituality.
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I'm just stuck in a 3D world right now.
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Through meditation, I could release all of that and I could come back to what I am and
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I can respect everybody, even those that I was angry towards.
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So I appreciate you bringing up the whole psychology of this because, yeah, I believe
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there is a lot that people are experiencing and questioning, well, am I really spiritual
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if I'm going through these emotions?
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Yeah, no, that's something I had to talk to my friend about.
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She's going through a difficult time and she's like, yeah, I just, I feel like all
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of the spiritual work I've done just gone out the window because I feel so angry all
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the time.
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And I'm like, no.
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Also, that's another thing.
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When you build your capacity to hold these large emotions, you will be given larger doses
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of those emotions.
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So it's going to come back even more intense because you're at a heightened state of consciousness
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to where you can hold that now, to where you wouldn't have been able to before.
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And yeah, like that's also something that I've been experiencing is because I have been
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doing the work to the capacity that I have been, I've been getting these emotions or
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just like, yeah, all these suppressed emotions coming up full force.
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And it's been very intense.
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And I'm like, why am I not like peaceful anymore?
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Like, what's going on?
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And I'm like, OK, this is the thing, though, is I think this is another thing that is so
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important to remember is the spiral of life because nothing is linear and that's especially
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not healing.
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And we do go through it in phases and we'll kind of go through a phase.
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We're building that capacity and then we're hit with like this wave of something that
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needs to be dealt with because we're strong enough to hold it now.
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And so, yeah, I just have to remind myself that that is a gateway to expansion.
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And I really like what Lizzie said, too, is that we kind of get caught up in this idea
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that we have to suffer.
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But once you become more comfortable with it, it doesn't feel like it's suffering anymore.
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And I think that this is very strange for me this past time to experience so many emotions
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and not really feel like trapped by them.
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I saw them more as an opportunity to grow rather than an obstacle because like, oh,
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I know what this is like.
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This is just me preparing myself to grow more.
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And like this is just teaching me.
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And so, yeah, it's really important that we do see those as opportunities or all of our
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emotions are opportunities and they don't have to be something that evokes suffering,
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but rather wisdom.
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I love that.
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And I also feel it's really important to add that as you're exploring, allowing your own
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emotions to come out, it, of course, is important to attempt not to hurt other people.
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But sometimes if you're being real with yourself, OK, it sounds kind of silly, but me and my
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husband got in an argument a little bit ago.
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So I'm terrified of moths, like this reasonably terrified.
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And there was a moth and it came and found us in the bathroom when we were getting ready
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for bed.
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And he's like, let's just close the door like it'll stay in here.
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You're just fine.
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And I'm like, OK, it's late, like it's fine.
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And so then we're in the living room talking and this moth comes up and flies underneath
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his arm right up into my face, which is my fear because they always fly into my face.
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And then it goes and lands on the wall.
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And I'm like, can you please catch that moth?
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And he's like, I really don't want to.
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I really just want to go to bed and not chase a moth around.
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And I was I was mad about it.
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And I was like, OK, whatever.
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Like, I'm a strong, independent woman.
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I don't need no man.
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Right.
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Like my brain starts going through all those things and I just let myself be angry.
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Right.
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Not meaning that he's like a terrible person.
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I'm just angry about this thing.
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And when I let all my anger go, something that came to my mind afterwards was it's valid
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that I'm angry, but it's also valid.
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He didn't want to catch the moth like he catches so many bugs for me throughout the day.
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Like he's tired.
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It's a well-established thing in our relationship that like after about 10 p.m. like he just
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needs to go to bed.
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This is established.
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You know what I mean?
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And so although it's fair that I was mad he wouldn't catch the moth because I'm terrified
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of it.
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It is just a moth.
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And what I really, really wanted was to be less afraid of the moth.
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That's what I wanted.
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But I had to allow myself to chill, to be angry because if I didn't let myself be angry
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at him and skip to like, well, he doesn't have to do it.
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Now, I just like deny myself this whole experience where I actually ran through all the things
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my brain is saying that I actually disagree with what my body wants to say.
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This is important.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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Oh my gosh.
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I love that.
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And I think that it's so important, as you said, like really you just didn't want to
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be afraid of the moth.
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That's where the issue is coming from.
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It didn't have anything to do with him because I kind of went through a similar thing like
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going through an agreement or disagreement.
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And yeah, it really it helps so much because I have this friend who's very spiritual and
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he just went on a spiritual journey and he was talking about how in the wilderness a
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bear charged at him.
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And immediately he wanted to run out of the circle because they're like in a circle.
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But he didn't.
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And he closed his eyes and he prayed and the bear like went away.
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And he was like saying how much of a metaphor it was for life because these things are going
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to provoke us and we're going to have these emotions come up.
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But if we step out of the circle of love, if we step out of our prayer, then that's
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no one's fault except our own.
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Like we have to learn how to deal with our emotions in a way that it's not hurting other
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people or seeing other people at fault for that.
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Because yeah.
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Okay.
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I love this metaphor and I think that it works for so many people for certain stages of their
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spiritual awakening.
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But that same metaphor is what basically destroyed my life because that's the thing was everything
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that I was taught was about just be love.
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And so I was like, I let everybody do their thing.
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I stood up for myself, but in the most respectful way possible, but a completely polar side
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of that truth that I was not acknowledging that I'm just barely recently starting to
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understand is that the tension that we learn to just like let move through us sometimes
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doesn't want to move through us.
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Sometimes it's asking for something to be like built.
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It's common with like a purpose.
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And so sometimes, yeah, you can close your eyes and pray about it.
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Right.
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And maybe it does just bypass you.
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That's an important part of learning how to like harness that like beautiful love frequency.
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But the thing is, is living in that every day all the time isn't really authentic to
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us.
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There's a reason we feel this like resistance.
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And what was happening to me was when I would do that metaphor of like just, you know, allowing
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it and, you know, using affirmations, frequency, music, meditating, all this stuff, it kept
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clamping down harder and harder and harder until I had no food, no money.
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Like I had nothing, nothing.
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And I still just kept doing it.
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And I existed just at that spot until I started doing it just like a little bit differently
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because I think that every truth has two polar truths.
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And whenever you explore one to a certain degree, it's like it almost starts harming
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you to do it.
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And that's kind of the way that it pushes us to try the other way, but only because
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that's the way we've patterned to learn.
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And so I don't want it to be like it has to be that way.
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Because that's a lot of times when we move is because something's tense.
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And so it's like, if you want to, if that's your instinct to close your eyes and pray,
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then that's exactly what you should do.
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And whatever comes of that is exactly what's supposed to happen.
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But if you don't feel like praying, if you feel like running from the bear, then that's
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probably the most authentic thing for you in that moment.
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You know what I mean?
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It's not like one action is higher resonance, it's what does your body want to do?
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That'll always tell you what's the best for you.
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That's a great point.
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Yeah, I'm listening to all of this and I'm amazed to see how all three of us, we see
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things in a different way.
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However, we're also seeing things in the very same way as well.
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And I think this is an important lesson to anybody that's listening to this.
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We are our own true selves.
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And the whole point of our conversation here is really acknowledge yourself.
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That's all you have to do.
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You don't have to be so tied up in the entire spiritual, you know, guidance and words.
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There's no script to this.
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We write our own little playbooks every single day.
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That's what helps us get along.
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And this entire bear metaphor is perfect.
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It's a fight or flight reaction.
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Like Lizzie said, hey, maybe your body at that moment says, hey, run, there's a bear
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coming.
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That moment, if that's what you feel strongly and you run, that's your survival mode.
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But if you're feeling spiritually strong enough to where you're just going to sit there
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and pray, and then the bear walks away, that too is now your survival as well.
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Go ahead, Lizzie, am I misinterpreting?
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Yeah, I was just going to say that what I was acknowledging was that it's not whether
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you're spiritually sound enough to pray the bear away.
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The thing is, is that for one person, they are learning to calm and center themselves.
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Whereas another person might be learning to move when the fire gets hot.
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Another person might be learning how to stand up for themselves.
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Maybe the best thing for them is to scream at the bear.
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That might be the most in resonance for their experience.
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And so it's not necessarily like trying to figure out what the best quantum answer is
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and trying to accomplish it, so much as what is the right thing for you right now, which
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is only you can determine.
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Does that make sense?
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It does.
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It clarifies.
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Yeah.
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And again, it is, yeah, just like you said, it is that experience at that point, based
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upon the person and what it is we're going to feel at that moment.
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It's going to work for us.
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So we need to, just like the whole conversation is coming to is like, we need to acknowledge
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our emotions because they're human emotions.
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And they have human reactions as well.
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But if you're going to wind up being an evil person your whole life, that too is a conscientious
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choice.
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You're not going to be on that higher spiritual plane as the rest of us.
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But you made a conscientious choice to be evil.
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And that's why I think the word balance falls into this.
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I think, again, Halo is correcting me if I'm wrong, with Buddhism too, they teach a lot
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about balance, if I'm not mistaken, yeah.
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So I think this is the greatest message we're actually bringing forward.
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I think we can talk about this a lot.
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And there may even be future episodes where we could expand on this because I appreciate
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this.
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I love it.
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This is what Lizzie and I were excited to have Halo sit in here because Lizzie and I,
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we can sit here and talk all the time, but sometimes after a while, it's just Lizzie
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and I.
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When we throw in somebody else, it's great.
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And Halos, you really do.
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I think spiritually too, you're connected in a very, I just want to say it's in a way
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where I'm very comfortable listening and I'm very receptive to everything that you're saying
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too.
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It's a lot like Lizzie, when she talks, she's great at giving her interpretations of life
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or whatever it may be too.
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And I just feel like I'm in great company, but I think we have to think beyond us too
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and think about our audience as well because really everybody out there that's listening,
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everyone's experiencing something in life and we're all experiencing it in different
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ways.
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But in the end, we're under the same roof of the cosmos and we're all part of that cosmos.
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And once we acknowledge that, we are much better and then we become better as a society.
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Yes.
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Beautifully said.
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I love that.
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Thanks.
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Well, on that note, I will leave it on that ending because I think that's a very important
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message and I really want to express to the audience, if you ever need to reach out to
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any of us, whether it be Lizzie, whether it be Halos, whether it be Elaine, churchofvosatgmail.com,
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just reach out to us.
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And also please tune into my Wednesday night guided meditations if you haven't already
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because I'm having a three-part series on third eye meditation.
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So tune in for that.
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I spent a lot of time with it.
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I feel very proud of it and I would love to share it with everybody.
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And again, if you want to work with me on meditations, one-on-one, churchofvosatgmail.com.
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And Halos, real quick, give your information if someone wants to reach out to you directly.
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Yeah.
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So my information is going to be through my website at unifiedfrequency.com and unified
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is spelled U-N-I-F-E-Y-E-D, like I in the middle.
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And yeah, that's just going to be contact at unifiedfrequency.com.
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That's my email.
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And I will definitely make sure that there is a link down in the synopsis and don't forget
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to read the synopsis because the last time nobody read the synopsis, nobody knew what
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was going on with the argument between Lizzie and me.
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So everybody, thank you again so much for tuning in.
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I want to thank Lizzie as always.
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Thank you so much.
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Halos, thank you as well for joining us.
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This is beautiful.
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I really appreciate it.
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And don't forget, tune in every Monday morning when we have our shows.
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And don't forget to tune in Thursday night, 7 p.m. Eastern Standard Time when Lizzie and
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I give our sermons.
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They're live across Facebook and YouTube, and then you can catch the recording immediately
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after.