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The Big Issues - Tuesday 7 December 2021 · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Well it is ten thirty on a Tuesday morning and
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  Speaker 1: joining me in the studio right now, Dave Tolna.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, great to me with you, Cadi and.
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  Speaker 3: Damian Hale, good morning to you.
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  Speaker 4: Get a Katie. How are you very well?
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  Speaker 1: Great to have you both on this morning for the
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  Speaker 1: big issues and what's to.
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  Speaker 3: Cover off on I guess well there it always.
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  Speaker 1: Is, but this morning it's been a bit interesting as
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  Speaker 1: it was yesterday following on from that news that well
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  Speaker 1: Senator Sam McMahon allegedly got into.
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  Speaker 3: A bit of a scuffle.
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  Speaker 1: After a NATS party or during the NATS party.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know whether it was after.
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  Speaker 1: Or during, but as she was being put into a
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  Speaker 1: taxi allegedly.
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  Speaker 5: What were your thoughts, Well, the that's just summed up
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  Speaker 5: in one word. At a party the king O Hotel,
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  Speaker 5: because I remember going to the king O a bit
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  Speaker 5: and the best thing about it, You remember, Dave, you
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  Speaker 5: cook your own state, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was a great remember it well, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I remember one day I rocked up there and it
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  Speaker 5: was Camber Day, text all my colleagues and.
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  Speaker 2: Rode from there. My mate he used to share with
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  Speaker 2: he got lost one night I was twenty five meters
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  Speaker 2: to the door.
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  Speaker 4: There was thirty colleagues coming.
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  Speaker 5: I cooked steaks and then Tony Abbott walks in and Dunton,
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  Speaker 5: so I said, go and buy a steak, Go and
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  Speaker 5: get a steak, bring it over here.
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  Speaker 4: So I was cooking Tory steaks and then the manager.
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  Speaker 5: The manager loved us, and so I organized him and
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  Speaker 5: he dropped the bottle of red on a few of
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  Speaker 5: the tables. So everyone had a great night. So I
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  Speaker 5: got fond memories of the king.
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  Speaker 2: It's a different environment when you're actually down there. Haley'll
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  Speaker 2: attest to this. You know, most people's impressions of the
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  Speaker 2: Federal Parliament is what they see on question time, of course,
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  Speaker 2: which is a complete charade. It's a circus and that's
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  Speaker 2: the way it's supposed to be.
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  Speaker 3: But do you reckon it's a more fun than that.
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  Speaker 2: Sal Well, look at the end of the day, that's
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  Speaker 2: when everyone's hamming it up for the cameras. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's just the way question time is. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: very adversary and that sort of stuff. But people walk
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  Speaker 2: out a question time from different sides of the chamber
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  Speaker 2: and go to lunch.
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  Speaker 3: I have had a laugh and some of the best
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  Speaker 3: on the same side of the chamber.
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  Speaker 2: The best friends I made in the Federal Parliament were
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  Speaker 2: from the Labour side, believe it or not. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: obviously I made very friends with people on my side too,
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  Speaker 2: but it's it's a very collegiate sort of a place.
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  Speaker 1: And then what happens, and I suppose when they're on
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  Speaker 1: the same side of the party with the Gnats, they
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  Speaker 1: get into a.
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  Speaker 6: Bit of.
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  Speaker 2: What I find so amazing is that the nt years
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  Speaker 2: are scratching their head that the Seal don't want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Put in a request to speak to the Senator.
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  Speaker 1: You got wonder the Senator went to ground. Obviously she
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  Speaker 1: is in quarantine. Us understand it. But we put in
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  Speaker 1: a request to speak to her yesterday, not at all
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  Speaker 1: far of his office didn't provide. Sorry, they did provide
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  Speaker 1: us a statement. And then we also i'd send a
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  Speaker 1: message to Jamie de Brinney from the cop and dust
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  Speaker 1: whether we could get somebody from the cop on. But
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  Speaker 1: I heard crickets.
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  Speaker 2: Let me guess fair enough, he statement would have said, listen,
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  Speaker 2: it was a private dispirit. It's all been said.
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  Speaker 1: Well he said that there I don't have it in
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  Speaker 1: front of me now. But yes, he said that there
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  Speaker 1: had been an apology, a contrite apology.
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  Speaker 3: I believe.
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  Speaker 5: Well, if you're the camp, if you're the national national Secretary,
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  Speaker 5: is the national Federal director federal.
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  Speaker 4: Director of every so often.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know whether you know anything about Jonathan Hawks,
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  Speaker 2: but I know Jonathan Hawks very very well. Jonathan Hawks
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  Speaker 2: worked for me. Jonathan Hawks is a territorious good guy.
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  Speaker 2: He's a top guy. His father was David Hawks, who
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  Speaker 2: was the Public Service Commissioner. Harley would remember him from
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  Speaker 2: a long time. Jonathan Hawks a good territory boy. He
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  Speaker 2: prior to this, he was a federal He was sorry
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  Speaker 2: that the director of the Tasmanian Liberal Party worked at
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  Speaker 2: the Minerals Council for a few years. He's a territory boy,
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  Speaker 2: done well, really well. And then he's a federal director
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  Speaker 2: of the National pert.
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  Speaker 1: You go, well, it had been I did receive a
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  Speaker 1: message from an XELP member this morning who did say
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  Speaker 1: to me, imagine the outcry if the shoe was on
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  Speaker 1: the other foot, or if the roles were reversed in
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  Speaker 1: terms of the male allegedly, you know, swinging punches at
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  Speaker 1: a female, and the outcry that there would be, which
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  Speaker 1: I thought was a fair point worth making.
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  Speaker 4: It's an interest now.
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  Speaker 5: I was just talking to Dave as we were walking
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  Speaker 5: in that no other job in Australia do you get
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  Speaker 5: told nine months out from an election that you're actually
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  Speaker 5: no longer going to have a job, but you're.
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  Speaker 4: Expected to stay.
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  Speaker 5: The pre selection battle was decided with just Iner Price.
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  Speaker 5: And unless you're in that situation, how do you know
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  Speaker 5: the pressure, the mental pressure that someone like the senators
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  Speaker 5: under in regards to the fact she's got to keep
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  Speaker 5: doing the job.
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  Speaker 4: But she knows that.
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  Speaker 5: The club, the party's actually lost confidence or they've decided
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  Speaker 5: to go in a different direction. It'd be terrible telling
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  Speaker 5: a footy coach, can you keep coaching sucking at the
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  Speaker 5: end of the season.
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  Speaker 2: None of them hang around.
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  Speaker 1: I will say for Senator Sam McMahon is that last week,
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  Speaker 1: for example, she did keep pushing through for the Territory
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  Speaker 1: Rights Bill. She has continued to work quite hard. From
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  Speaker 1: all accounts, certainly in that last sittings of Parliament it
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  Speaker 1: came across that way.
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  Speaker 3: So I will I will give her that.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon that she has despite being told that she's
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  Speaker 1: not going to be you know, that she wasn't going
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  Speaker 1: to be pre selected. She's she's gotten stuck in there.
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  Speaker 2: It's off to a t, you know, like Hailey makes
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  Speaker 2: a point. It's a very good point. You know, there's
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  Speaker 2: no really incentive for her to keep going, but she
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  Speaker 2: is going in good honor.
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  Speaker 5: And Dave and I know what it's like to lose
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  Speaker 5: that federal election and it's nobody, No one from the
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  Speaker 5: party rings you up. I think I had one phone
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  Speaker 5: call from Paul Henderson to check on how I was going.
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  Speaker 5: And you go from being the big rooster to a
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  Speaker 5: feather dust during And oh, I say to people, I
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  Speaker 5: only ever got sacked once in my life.
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  Speaker 4: Thirty seven thousand people.
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  Speaker 5: Told me to piss off in one afternoon in twenty ten,
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  Speaker 5: and it's replaced. It wasn't and well it was only
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  Speaker 5: thirty seven It might have been more in two thousand
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  Speaker 5: and seven for you, Dave.
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  Speaker 4: But that's what happens.
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  Speaker 5: But no one's there to tell you, all right, what
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  Speaker 5: happens life after politics. You've just got to get on
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  Speaker 5: with it. And so unless you've been in that situation. Now,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not condoning violence, or I'm not condoning somebody having
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  Speaker 5: to go at somebody else at a Christmas party or
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  Speaker 5: whatever happened. But it's all allegations and often these things
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  Speaker 5: at ten thirty or eleven o'clock at night, everyone's got
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  Speaker 5: a different perception of what happened. People see it from
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  Speaker 5: a distance and read something into it that wasn't there,
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  Speaker 5: or there was more in it. Who knows at that
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  Speaker 5: hour of the night, how can you find reliable witnesses
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  Speaker 5: as well that it might be a little bit a
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  Speaker 5: little bit impaired.
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  Speaker 1: To say, well, look, Lis a lot on the agenda
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  Speaker 1: this morning, and I do want to also ask you
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  Speaker 1: both about the Prime Minister Scott Morrison and senior Liberals
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  Speaker 1: are openly encouraging this is being reported openly encouraging the
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  Speaker 1: former New South Wales Premier Gladys spiro Jiclian to run
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  Speaker 1: as the party's candidate in Warringa at next year's federal election.
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  Speaker 1: So Miss Sperit Jicklian, as we all know, quit the state.
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  Speaker 1: Quits the state's premier in September after being named as
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  Speaker 1: the subject of an Independent Commission Against Corruption inquiry. However,
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  Speaker 1: Liberal figures have been quietly sounding her out about a
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  Speaker 1: tilta at federal politics, believing that she could be the
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  Speaker 1: party's best chance at reclaiming the once safe seat currently
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  Speaker 1: held by Independent Zali Stegel. So this is an interesting one,
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  Speaker 1: particularly when you look at the fact that she stood
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  Speaker 1: down as the premier because of this Ikak investigation that's
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  Speaker 1: going on, and now potentially we'll going to have a
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  Speaker 1: tilt at federal politics.
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  Speaker 4: Wait't happen? How does don't think it will happen?
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  Speaker 5: Lloy, the the baggage that unfortunately Gladys springs. You could
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  Speaker 5: imagine the core flutes, imagine the signs around the pollen,
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  Speaker 5: and the Independent I think has been doing a pretty
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  Speaker 5: good job from what people.
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  Speaker 4: Are, from what I've said.
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  Speaker 5: From what job, and you would have an absolute field day.
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  Speaker 5: The Premier is still in the in the eye.
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  Speaker 2: Hasn't even got herself car yet, for God, and.
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  Speaker 4: She's no chance of running in the seed that we're in.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently there had been some polling done which did show
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  Speaker 1: that that Gladys sparagically and would be able to ast
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  Speaker 1: Zali Stegle with that polling. But I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: we've all known over the years that the polling can
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  Speaker 1: certainly be took.
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  Speaker 4: It out of a liberal branch meeting.
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  Speaker 3: It's hugely popular.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that you know, whether whether we like
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  Speaker 1: her or we don't like her, or whether we think
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  Speaker 1: that she's done something wrong or she hasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Gladys spiagically and was quite popular, you would have to.
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  Speaker 2: She's very popular in particularly in South Wales and rightses
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  Speaker 2: case like, she is very popular. I don't know that
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  Speaker 2: there's any ever, any reason for a prime Minister and
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  Speaker 2: a Treasurer to come out and endorse one particular candidate
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  Speaker 2: over others. I know we're ringer. I know a couple
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  Speaker 2: of people there personally who've been campaigning for the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of years. You know, contrary to what Haley says,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Zali Stegel is a complete nut job, but
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  Speaker 2: she's a Green Zealot. She's a Green Zealot right well.
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  Speaker 2: And the view is she's not very popular in the electorate.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the last election was more about getting rid
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  Speaker 2: of Tanny Abbott than it was about electing Zari Stegel.
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  Speaker 2: And she's you know, like a lot of independence in
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  Speaker 2: the Federal Parliament is lost and it really has has
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  Speaker 2: had no impact whatsoever. So it's seen as a seat
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  Speaker 2: that the liberals will certainly look at picking up and
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  Speaker 2: you know, may well be I do know a couple
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  Speaker 2: of people that are running there. Whether they put their
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  Speaker 2: hand up for pre selection at the end, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but there's been a couple of people who've been going
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  Speaker 2: at least for a couple of years now, knocking on doors,
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  Speaker 2: going to branch meetings, all of the things that you
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  Speaker 2: do when you're sort of considering to be a candidate,
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  Speaker 2: and you sort of feel for those sort of people
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  Speaker 2: when you're Prime Minister and the treasurer parachute someone in,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and the talk about the seats that they
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  Speaker 2: were going to put her in, like you know, they
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  Speaker 2: were like Wogger and you know some of these country
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  Speaker 2: seats as opposed to something in the eastern suburbs of Sydney,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, goodness, may where does Gladys live.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we can find a.
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  Speaker 4: Seat within at least one hundred k's of a house.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think everybody too hot New South. I
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  Speaker 2: was realizing that Zarie Steg is probably for the boat.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's too interesting way.
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  Speaker 4: It's too hot at the moment, it's too close and.
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  Speaker 1: You'd have a few popularity I think you're.
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  Speaker 4: RPS group in the Labor Party.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: They would have it.
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  Speaker 4: He's looking group.
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  Speaker 3: We will take a very short break. It is just
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  Speaker 3: twenty minutes away from eleven o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: You are listening to the Big Issues on Mix one
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  Speaker 1: oh four point nine. It is fifteen minutes away from
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  Speaker 1: eleven o'clock. You are listening to Mix one oh four
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  Speaker 1: point nine and it's the Big Issues with Dave Tolna
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  Speaker 1: and Damian Hale and a few interesting stories floating around today. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I am just reading on nine News this morning that
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  Speaker 1: Australian Olympic athletes risk being caught in a Chinese backlash
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  Speaker 1: if the federal government follows today's announcement by the US
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  Speaker 1: of a diplomatic boycott of the Beijing Winter Games, an
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  Speaker 1: expert has warned. So the Australian government has yet to
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  Speaker 1: announce if it's going to follow the US move, but
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  Speaker 1: coalition MPs are understood to be pushing for similar actions.
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  Speaker 1: So while a diplomatic boycott would not involve athletes, Malcolm Davis,
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  Speaker 1: who's apparently a senior analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute,
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  Speaker 1: said that olympians competing in Beijing could then be targeted
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  Speaker 1: with reprisals.
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  Speaker 3: So he said that it is.
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  Speaker 1: Highly likely the federal government will follow the US in
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  Speaker 1: staging a diplomatic boycott, but he warned that it could
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  Speaker 1: put Australian athletes at risk of Chinese sanctions, and Dr
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  Speaker 1: Davis said that there would be risk to foreign athletes there.
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  Speaker 1: If I was an Australian athlete, I wouldn't be going
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  Speaker 1: so ahead of the US announcement, Chinese government officials warned
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  Speaker 1: it would take well, it takes sort of counter measures,
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  Speaker 1: resolute countermeasures against the Biden administration. If the US diplomatic
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  Speaker 1: boycott went ahead.
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  Speaker 3: It's a it's pretty interesting, like it's a very interesting situation.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how i'd be feeling if
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  Speaker 1: I was an athlete looking to go away.
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  Speaker 2: Katie, I'm just curious, you know, apart from Zali Stegel
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  Speaker 2: who lives on Bondai, do we have anybody else who
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  Speaker 2: does Winter Olympics in this country. Well, I'm just curious.
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  Speaker 2: I don't follow the Winter Olympics.
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  Speaker 3: I was winter sports.
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  Speaker 4: One of my face on the gold case won Olympic
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  Speaker 4: gold medal.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what these clients coast beautiful coastal regions
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  Speaker 2: with big waves in that scene to attract Winter Olympians.
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  Speaker 5: Well, this is called the big issues. It's usually the
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  Speaker 5: politicians boycotting.
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  Speaker 2: Now you are the sports now.
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  Speaker 4: Meeting.
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  Speaker 2: How many Winter Olympicans running around this country.
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  Speaker 4: I can see that there's.
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  Speaker 5: There's an opportunity for me and you to get on
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  Speaker 5: a junket to go and represent the Australian Diplomatic Corps
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  Speaker 5: at the Beijing Winter Olympics.
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  Speaker 2: There's probably more than in the diplomatic court than there
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  Speaker 2: are in the team.
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  Speaker 1: Well look, just a cross cutting measure really good skiers.
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  Speaker 1: I thought there were a few really good skiers.
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  Speaker 2: But I suppose the point is, like, is anybody in
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  Speaker 2: the world going to notice if Australia doesn't turn out
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  Speaker 2: for the Winter Olympics.
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  Speaker 4: The diplomat said in the athletes.
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  Speaker 5: Still, we've got four public servants that aren't going.
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  Speaker 2: This is a potential to make Zari Stagger relevant.
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  Speaker 5: Irrelevant today seven times never.
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  Speaker 3: I'm starting to worry.
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  Speaker 2: How are you thinking tuned in?
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  Speaker 6: If you if you've tuned in today exactly what don't
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  Speaker 6: even know her name until Dave brought it up today?
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  Speaker 6: Or didn't know who the independence buddy inga was.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about something else that that is quite
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  Speaker 1: interesting and following on from from Hayley's discussion a little
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  Speaker 1: bit earlier about cooking steaks for people in Canberra and apparently,
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  Speaker 1: well yeah, it's it's an innocent enough photo two labor
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  Speaker 1: politicians enjoying a meating barbecue together on a sunny day.
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  Speaker 1: But the picture of Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews and the
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  Speaker 1: Opposition leader Anthony Albanezi has the cynics wandering. Apparently in it,
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  Speaker 1: Andrews holds tolls in one hand and a plate of
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  Speaker 1: asparagus in the other, while Albany's he takes a selfie.
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  Speaker 1: So is it a real picture or a photoshop job?
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  Speaker 1: So people are only.
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  Speaker 2: A photoshop job. But they went and got the steaks
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  Speaker 2: down the street and you know, like them, they haven't
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  Speaker 2: been cooked on that barbie. The barbie's never been lit
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  Speaker 2: and it's just you know, this is this is one
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  Speaker 2: like this is what you do when you're a hollow mean,
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  Speaker 2: you make up a barbie scene.
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  Speaker 4: You have ever had barbecue asparagus? That's one of my favorite.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, I'm surprised by that. Looks Katie,
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  Speaker 3: it's a real fighter.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not a real My question is why is
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  Speaker 1: elboy wearing a suit at a.
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  Speaker 2: Because he's a weirder just like Chim and Dean both.
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  Speaker 2: It's full like if you're going to do a barbie,
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  Speaker 2: surely you have a baking going.
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  Speaker 3: There's no one else there, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you get a photo with about four hundred.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon their roommates they used to be Apparently back
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  Speaker 1: in their Uni days.
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  Speaker 5: They could have had a barbecue for the four hundred
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  Speaker 5: loyal public servants that aren't going to Beijing.
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  Speaker 2: Now, given they're both plastic, you can see they didn't.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's the real issue.
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  Speaker 3: You're really you're not a fan of either.
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  Speaker 2: Given they both made a plastic you wouldn't want to
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  Speaker 2: be like in the barbecue.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Dave's on message now because our bows in front of.
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  Speaker 4: The poles and so the polls. So Dave's on message.
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  Speaker 5: Milly the man because we haven't got any policies.
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  Speaker 3: That's about this. When do we reckon?
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  Speaker 1: This federal election is going to be called early next year.
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  Speaker 1: What months do you think it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: I reckon March.
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  Speaker 2: March speculator, I reckon.
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  Speaker 5: No, I'm not before the budget because he doesn't have
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: a good story to tell on the budget you got,
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: he's going to eating the trillion dollars debt.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: See Elbow put out his fake sort of plan from
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: reading meeting the targets a climate change targets.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Fake plan.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Don't let yeah a policy for ten years, So they
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: bagged Labour's policy in there.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: It takes a little while for a penny to drop.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: You know that has taken a long time.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Take a few months to point out some of the
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: deficiencies in Albo's little fake plan.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: That's all we need, though, we need something from the
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Liberals a decade, a decade of no plan at all.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Well, so you're you're picking March. You reckoned the federal election.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: I'll make the I'll make the observation now that on
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Sunday you've got one leader out articulating a plan to
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: address climate change and.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: To bring down your Dutch.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: Got the other Yobo in a V eight supercar doing
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: a hot lap where they're at.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: It's Interesting's got a plan for Australia.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: And the other Blake's living in some sort of some
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: fantasy of you.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Know, he's on message, isn't the man We're all going
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: to fry.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Thank God for elbow.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Snow for the Winter Olympics to go ahead.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Public servants compete in that one is Zali Stegeler. I'm
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: a bit.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Worried about Dave's fascination with ste.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Too close to Christmas for the show.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I am hearing May is the guy, but
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: who knows.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I think my ill hang on me because I mean
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: there's might as well well at the end of the well,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: he doesn't want it.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: He doesn't What.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Alban As he put out is a joke. It really
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: is a joke. It makes no sense and all it
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: treats the Australian people like idiots. And you know, I
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: imagine that scam be in the marketing mean that he
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: will will take his time to pull that little.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Policy Scott from marketing.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: That's about all he's got at the end of the day,
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: you know, talk about the hollow man.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see when it all happens.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Mirrors.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to, you know, to making sure that
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: we do get to talk more about the federal election
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: next year.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Commodated. Yeah, a decade.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I was in for a.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Decade of to enough half an hour with one week's
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: enough years, it's time to move on.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: It's time.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Well, I tell you what.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I think that they're all going to need to make
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: sure that they're you know, that they are coming out
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: with policies that people really care about and talking about
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: things that people really do care about.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: And the big thing over.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: The last two years, COVID has had a huge impact,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: But it's more about making sure that we recover I
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: suppose about.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: That jobs, all that sort of stuff.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think though, people definitely do want to
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: make sure that we are taking some action on climate change.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that. But I don't know.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Dave's nodding very chasing unicorns.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: We work, we'll be walking out back on the flat
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: earth up to Uncle sached up unicorn.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Goodness.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: May well, I tell you what that's just about it
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: for for the big issues.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: This morning wonderful act.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: You know, he shaved the snile off his top lip.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: He's back to normal, looking at the.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Little bit of milk on it and stewing off the
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: cat get days of the start to eat.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know how people.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Well, anyway on that for.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: About a week and I start to eat it.
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: Well, the shoes, the flatter, the president of the Flat
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: Earth Association over there in the floor.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Dive me andhile, good to catch up with you this morning.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: Catch up, and
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Good to see you're both again very soon