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One Piece, 697-699 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an unspoiled network podcast. This is spoil Me,
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  Speaker 1: covering one Piece episodes six ninety seven through six ninety nine,
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  Speaker 1: One Shot, One Kill, the Man who will save Dress, Rosa,
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  Speaker 1: anger erupts, loufy in Law's ultimate stratagem, and a noble family,
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  Speaker 1: the true identity of Dove Flamingo. In these episodes, we
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  Speaker 1: get a really incredible plan from USAP, like, truly amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I love it so much. We get to see what
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  Speaker 1: it was that Lufi and Law had planned, which actually
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  Speaker 1: pretty solid idea. Too bad it didn't work, and then
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  Speaker 1: me find out exactly why it is that do Flamingo
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  Speaker 1: wants to destroy the world, I guess. Welcome to spoil Me,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much to Florian for commissioning this episode. What's up,
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  Speaker 1: Florian if you're out there. Yeah, these episodes were gripping, guys.
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  Speaker 1: I was so pleased too that a big part of
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  Speaker 1: what was incredibly riveting was involving us up, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I have just felt so frustrated at the character assassination
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  Speaker 1: that he had to endure, and I was very pleased
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  Speaker 1: that he gets such a starring role in something really
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  Speaker 1: important here that he not only manages to pull off,
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  Speaker 1: but that also once we get to see what it is,
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  Speaker 1: it's like genuinely amazing. It's hilarious and I wasn't expecting
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  Speaker 1: it at all at all at all, Like this is you, guys.
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  Speaker 1: I've said this so many times before, but like, once
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  Speaker 1: you've started to cover as much stuff as I do
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  Speaker 1: the way that I do, it can get harder and
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  Speaker 1: harder for anybody to surprise me. Because you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: so many tropes, and like, I think that tropes is
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  Speaker 1: a word that unfortunately gets used a lot to be
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  Speaker 1: a synonym with like lazy, and I don't think that's
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  Speaker 1: true at all. Tropes are there because they are like effective,
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  Speaker 1: successful storytelling devices. There's nothing wrong with tropes, but you
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  Speaker 1: can be lazy with them. And there are plenty of
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  Speaker 1: times where subverting a trope to subvert it is just
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  Speaker 1: as like pointless as following a trope to the letter.
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  Speaker 1: But this whole bit is so like there are so
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  Speaker 1: many moments that I really was just like, I really
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen here, you know, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't feel like that that often. So let's start off Episodes,
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  Speaker 1: Episode six ninety seven, one Shot, one Kill the Man
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  Speaker 1: who will save Dress Rosa. Picking up where we left off,
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  Speaker 1: Oosop is in his position as the sniper and is like,
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  Speaker 1: this is where I shine, I take out enemies from
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  Speaker 1: Afar and protect my team. And I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: they had him like dripping from his nose when he
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  Speaker 1: says this, because it just felt sort of like it
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  Speaker 1: took away the dignity of the moment. To me, I
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  Speaker 1: was very much into this, like on his behalf like
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  Speaker 1: for him. I felt like I was ready to just
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  Speaker 1: be like, all right, be the badass, come in and
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  Speaker 1: really do something, you know. And I just don't understand
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  Speaker 1: why they did it that way. I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: what did you do to deserve that? Guys, just let
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  Speaker 1: him be like a badass with no drippy nose for
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  Speaker 1: a second. Makes him look very childish. So Viola, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she's in her position as the the clairvoyant that's going
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  Speaker 1: to tell him exactly where sugar is inside the like
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  Speaker 1: grounds of the palace. Now we have this whole thing
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  Speaker 1: with the king. He is talking about how I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: get to the spot where he actually says it, because
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  Speaker 1: I want to make sure I get his wording right.
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  Speaker 1: So these men are climbing up this like weird net
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  Speaker 1: that Kinimon no Kinimon's friend made, and he says, like,
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  Speaker 1: without harming a single one will stop them, and another
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  Speaker 1: guy says, I think that's easier said than done. Then
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  Speaker 1: the king says, we have no other choice. The last
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  Speaker 1: thing I wish to do is hurt my people further
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  Speaker 1: by playing into do Flamingo's wretched game. All we need
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  Speaker 1: to do is stall time while they aim, and this like,
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  Speaker 1: eventually he does begin to actually fight, but so so
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  Speaker 1: my my instinct at first was when he began to
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  Speaker 1: fight was that he had realized I can't just do
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  Speaker 1: this with without any injury to anybody. That's not possible.
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  Speaker 1: And then I started to realize that like probably the
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  Speaker 1: people that are coming after him and the other straw
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  Speaker 1: hats are seen as like the pirates only, and that
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  Speaker 1: the folks who are residents of dress Rosa are seen
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  Speaker 1: as the people that he is trying to protect. Right,
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  Speaker 1: so he's he When he was saying this, he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: saying like, we can't fight anybody. He was saying, we
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  Speaker 1: have to protect my people, but if necessary, we can
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  Speaker 1: injure the people that are trying to actually like cash
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  Speaker 1: in on these bounties, right, I just want to because
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  Speaker 1: I keep thinking of everybody who isn't the straw hats
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  Speaker 1: as a monolith basically is where I'm at, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm realizing that's not necessarily how it is at all,
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  Speaker 1: and not necessarily how he sees it. So I just
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  Speaker 1: kind of want to get it straight that he every
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  Speaker 1: What I want to know is that things went to
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  Speaker 1: plan in his eyes versus did he start off with
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  Speaker 1: an ideal that he wasn't able to live up to
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  Speaker 1: and wound up having to compromise what he had intended.
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  Speaker 1: That's really where I'm sort of like, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I just want to know how, by the
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  Speaker 1: end of this how he is going to feel. Is
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  Speaker 1: he going to have guilt over the fact that he
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  Speaker 1: had wound up having to like beat the shit out
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  Speaker 1: of some folks, or is this pretty much what he
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  Speaker 1: had expected and he's fine with this and I am.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the rest of this episode is pretty much
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  Speaker 1: almost entirely taken up with the build up of Sugar
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  Speaker 1: coming out, and and I keep wanting to say, Sandy
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  Speaker 1: and Oos up having to take this shot at her,
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  Speaker 1: and it is there's a moment, you guys. And it
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  Speaker 1: took me a second to realize that what we were
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  Speaker 1: seeing was like us Up's imagination, because I was genuinely
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  Speaker 1: thinking this had happened. But we see Sugar touch Loofy,
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  Speaker 1: and what us up like, I think it's supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be that he takes a shot, it doesn't hit, and
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  Speaker 1: so he is like imagining what happens if he fails
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  Speaker 1: to like get the shot exactly right, or he took
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  Speaker 1: the shot and it didn't go right, Like yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's an imagination because he's still in position here.
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  Speaker 1: I for a second really did think that Lufy had
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  Speaker 1: been touched by Sugar, And you know what, guys, I
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  Speaker 1: a little bit was disappointed that that wasn't what had happened.
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  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, It would have been a major
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  Speaker 1: pain in the ass, but I would be really interested
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  Speaker 1: to see what happened. I will admit that that's like
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  Speaker 1: purely it it's sort of There's a book that I
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  Speaker 1: covered way back, a book series, the Dandelion Dynasty series,
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  Speaker 1: and one of the things that the main character says
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  Speaker 1: is to always do the most interesting thing, And I
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  Speaker 1: can't help but feel having everybody forget Lufy would have
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  Speaker 1: been the most interesting thing to do here. There's a
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  Speaker 1: big part of me that feels like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: potential was there to see who our characters are when
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  Speaker 1: Lufy isn't the one that's like handling them. And and
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  Speaker 1: it's not like I don't mean to say that that
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  Speaker 1: I want like you know what I'm saying. It's just
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  Speaker 1: it's I think that everybody's orbiting around Loofy in such
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  Speaker 1: a way that finding out exactly who they are as
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  Speaker 1: a group, but without him, it's a different thing than
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  Speaker 1: finding out who they are individually, because we have the
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  Speaker 1: two years where they're apart and they're all developing their
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  Speaker 1: own skills and getting really specialized training and all of that.
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  Speaker 1: But that is different. The one that I am wanting
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  Speaker 1: to see is like, how do we function as a
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  Speaker 1: group when it's not even like, oh, our common goal
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  Speaker 1: is Loofy even though that he isn't here because Lufy
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  Speaker 1: gets separated from our group a whole lot. That's just
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  Speaker 1: the way the story often has to work, and so
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  Speaker 1: like taking him out of the equation doesn't really serve
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  Speaker 1: to show me what I'm talking about here, because they
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  Speaker 1: still are trying to facilitate whatever the plan is that
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  Speaker 1: Lufy has come up with, or they are still trying
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  Speaker 1: to buy time for him to like go up against
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  Speaker 1: the big bad. There's like all different kinds of ways
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  Speaker 1: that this that his continued existence influences them so profoundly
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  Speaker 1: that removing him personally doesn't really alter anything. But what
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  Speaker 1: would happen if they all forgot him and yet they
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  Speaker 1: remembered one another, And how would they work together as
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  Speaker 1: a group, and would this work out anyway? It's almost
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  Speaker 1: surprising to me that he doesn't get touched by Sugar,
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  Speaker 1: also due to the fact that Loufy It is so
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  Speaker 1: often sidelined by the storyline explicitly so that our friends
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  Speaker 1: have to carry on without his help. I got to
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  Speaker 1: a point while watching this, because it gets drawn out
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  Speaker 1: so much that I genuinely started to expect that this
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  Speaker 1: was going to be the next beat in this arc.
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  Speaker 1: Was that Lufy gets very close to do Flamingo, he
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  Speaker 1: gets touched, everybody forgets him, and then everyone has to
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  Speaker 1: begin to work on their own in a very different way,
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  Speaker 1: still against dofl Mingo, because Saraphim in the chat last
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  Speaker 1: time was talking about how like these people have the
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  Speaker 1: straw Hats have all been informed about what's going on separately,
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  Speaker 1: and so they even like away from do fla Mingo
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  Speaker 1: or even away from Luf, would still understand do Fla
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  Speaker 1: Mingo as a threat. They would still be probably like
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  Speaker 1: fighting the good fight, you know. I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: want this established that Loufy is the heart of the
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  Speaker 1: straw Hats. Of course, right, I'm not debating that. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want Loofy out of the picture, but I can't
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  Speaker 1: help but think that, like it might be good for
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  Speaker 1: our people to realize that even if Lufy weren't with
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  Speaker 1: them anymore, they are still capable of like really incredible
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  Speaker 1: things and capable of working together. I just think that
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  Speaker 1: might be great for overall confidence. I'm not sure if
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  Speaker 1: that's really necessary, but and like I said, just a
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  Speaker 1: means of getting our getting our big bad man who
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  Speaker 1: has so much power sidelined in a way that's like
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  Speaker 1: distressing effective and also like something that is a goal.
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  Speaker 1: But it's kind of interesting because it would be a
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  Speaker 1: goal that the straw Hats aren't even aware of because
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  Speaker 1: they don't remember Luthy and so they don't remember that
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  Speaker 1: they need to rescue him. They would just be trying
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  Speaker 1: to take down Sugar because they remember other things that
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  Speaker 1: she's done. So eventually they could fulfill this and it
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  Speaker 1: would be accidental that they save Lufy. But you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I just I'm going off on this
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  Speaker 1: as like all this potential, and for all I know,
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  Speaker 1: in two more episodes she will touch him and all
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  Speaker 1: of this will come to pass. I don't know, but
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  Speaker 1: I guess I just wanted to make it clear that,
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  Speaker 1: like for myself, I really would have been okay with
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  Speaker 1: it if she had gotten to touch him. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it would have bothered me for the story to
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  Speaker 1: go in that direction. At the same time, though, I
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  Speaker 1: really did want us Up to finally have a real
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  Speaker 1: win that felt like it was on purpose and not
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  Speaker 1: just accidentally. He managed to take Sugar down because he
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  Speaker 1: ate something spicy and screamed in her face, because that
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  Speaker 1: was a victory that he gets credited with, but it's
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  Speaker 1: really not anything like you know what I'm saying. So
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  Speaker 1: I was very torn on this, wanting to feel like
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  Speaker 1: Usup is really truly saving the day and doing it
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  Speaker 1: of course in a way that's like particularly niche to
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  Speaker 1: his skill set as a sniper is really satisfying and
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  Speaker 1: then wanting to do the most interesting thing. So this
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  Speaker 1: the way that Sugar plays this. I said last time
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  Speaker 1: how unnerving I find her, and this episode made her
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  Speaker 1: even more so because I just don't think about First
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  Speaker 1: of all, I've said this already about how initially I
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  Speaker 1: was sort of, oh, is she going to turn out
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  Speaker 1: to be like used by everybody because she's so young
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  Speaker 1: and it's like the love. Then we find out that
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  Speaker 1: she's like much older than she looks and none of
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  Speaker 1: that is actually applicable, and so you know, of course
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  Speaker 1: I get to thinking like maybe it's annoying for her
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  Speaker 1: to be seen as a young kid, but she uses
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  Speaker 1: being seen as a child as a weapon in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: and they have her saying to herself like, which I'm
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  Speaker 1: grateful for because this had not occurred to me. Neither
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  Speaker 1: law nor Loofy has ever laid eyes on her before.
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  Speaker 1: So she comes in there like basically cold, and they
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to make of her at all, and
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  Speaker 1: I I'll tell you what, guys, when she comes out
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  Speaker 1: and she's just crying. I really thought this was gonna
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  Speaker 1: be very, very bad, And it is so gratifying and
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  Speaker 1: delightful that both Loofy and Law they're not sure what
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  Speaker 1: her deal is, but they seem to know good and
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  Speaker 1: god damn well that she isn't what she looks like.
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  Speaker 1: And I just personally it was a really wonderful moment
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  Speaker 1: because I was so concerned that this was going to
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  Speaker 1: work off the bat. When they both are sort of like, nah, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to find your own way out of here,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, amazing, let's move on. And then she used
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  Speaker 1: to pull out her fucking grapes and offer Loofy food,
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  Speaker 1: and I was so annoyed. I was like, I really
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  Speaker 1: thought we were in the clear here. I thought we
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  Speaker 1: were done. She's pulling out food that's a wrap on this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see him like walking away from that, And
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  Speaker 1: instead it's not like he walks away from that, but
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  Speaker 1: it is like it takes a long time for him
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  Speaker 1: to fully like come forward to accept what she's offering.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, like Law is getting really impatient and
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  Speaker 1: irritated with him. It's so funny like she decides to
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  Speaker 1: sort of play it as I'm a little kid who
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  Speaker 1: is scared and upset, so I'm gonna point at this
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  Speaker 1: guy and like yell about how he's a mean man.
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  Speaker 1: And so later on when Lufy is just like, what's
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  Speaker 1: your problem, She's just trying to share. It pays off
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  Speaker 1: that she has like pointed out Law as the one
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  Speaker 1: that isn't nice, because now Lufy already is sort of
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  Speaker 1: feeling like a way about it, and it ties in
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  Speaker 1: with that, so she manages to sort of like pull
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  Speaker 1: it for a second, like her and Lufy are on
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  Speaker 1: the same side against Law, And this is the moment
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  Speaker 1: where you think you're seeing her actually turn loofy, and
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  Speaker 1: then it turns out to be a false alarm, thank goodness.
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  Speaker 1: But on the other side of things, oos Up is
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  Speaker 1: still gearing up. He is being guarded by everybody who's
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  Speaker 1: fighting all of these dudes who are finally like coming
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  Speaker 1: up over the edge of the plateau and starting to attack.
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  Speaker 1: We get more of like the fun defense from the
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  Speaker 1: guys who had all been part of the arena fighting,
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  Speaker 1: which I'm just really pleased there is something more going
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  Speaker 1: on with them that makes it pay off later for
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  Speaker 1: me to have watched that arena fight. I don't I
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  Speaker 1: won't go so far as to say it makes it
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  Speaker 1: worth it, because I think there was a much shorter, simpler,
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  Speaker 1: easier way to set all of that up than what
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  Speaker 1: we got. That said, it is still feel like nice
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  Speaker 1: to feel like in the midst of all of this chaos,
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  Speaker 1: we don't have to stop and do introductions. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting just as much info as we got the
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  Speaker 1: info that we didn't need at the time, and now
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  Speaker 1: it's sort of paying off although it was so long ago.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, I'm watching these so close together, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like basically the equivalent of watching an episode a
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  Speaker 1: day due to how I cover it. I can't help
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  Speaker 1: but wonder when people are watching these in real time,
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  Speaker 1: do they ever have like moments where they genuinely don't
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  Speaker 1: remember who a person is anymore. It can be really
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  Speaker 1: overwhelming to me how many different characters there are, And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys are able to remember, but I
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  Speaker 1: sort of take it for granted, and I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: this is true that you all are able to Like,
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  Speaker 1: you guys can remember all these names and everything due
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  Speaker 1: to the fact that you have watched this series more
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  Speaker 1: than once. And I'm not sure if that's really how
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  Speaker 1: this works or not. Is that true that you've watched
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  Speaker 1: it more than once? Am? I Like, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: there's no way you remember absolutely everybody's names the way
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  Speaker 1: a lot of you do, and it's only through like
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  Speaker 1: one or two viewings. I feel like it's gotta be repeated.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know. Maybe I'm just not giving like
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  Speaker 1: there are plenty of people out there who are way
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  Speaker 1: better with names than me, Thank god, because if you weren't,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how the society would function. So it's
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  Speaker 1: possible that I'm just like projecting my own weaknesses regarding
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  Speaker 1: remembering names onto everybody, and it's not like that for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of you. But anyway, so we get to
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  Speaker 1: see like that king that's doing the punching and that
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  Speaker 1: giant gets attacked by There's there's that dude don do
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  Speaker 1: Flamingo's team who's always like, we are going to fight,
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  Speaker 1: we're fighting, you know. He talks like that I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember his name, but he comes down on one dude
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  Speaker 1: like a fucking uh. He's basically turns himself into like
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  Speaker 1: a meteor, which is uh, pretty wild looking. But all
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  Speaker 1: of this fighting, it's like they're barely able to keep
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  Speaker 1: everybody off of us up for long enough for him
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  Speaker 1: to pull this off. In the end, they are, but
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  Speaker 1: it's a very very close thing, and so once usup,
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  Speaker 1: let's loose his missile. This is the part that really
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  Speaker 1: impress me, you guys, because like drawing out him actually
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  Speaker 1: firing was for me frustrating, Like I definitely had a
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  Speaker 1: moment of like, oh my god, can we fucking get
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  Speaker 1: to it already? But once it's fired and he's being
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  Speaker 1: like grappled with and dragged to the ground and he
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  Speaker 1: is thinking through like the first phase and how it's
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  Speaker 1: going to like drop part of its shell and then
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  Speaker 1: continue on and sort of change direction and stuff, I
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  Speaker 1: was enchanted. I really was. I loved the the overall
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  Speaker 1: like pulling us out of the moment a little bit
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: where he is being wrestled and going into his head.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I liked the way that they did the sound and
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: they really pull back on the background noise and focus
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: in on the sound of the missile itself. I loved
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: that it has these different phases because I wasn't ex
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: that I thought it was just going to be like
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: a pretty straightforward shot. And more than anything, I loved
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: what this missile turns out to be because really, what
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I kept thinking to myself was, even if Oosup doesn't
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: actually hit Sugar, as long as he interrupts them all,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: it's probably still going to be effective, right, just distracting
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: everybody and shaking things up enough that that Loofy and
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Law sort of back away, or even if it landed
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: like between them and blew Up. I was sort of thinking, like,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: you could miss and it might still really help. But
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I hadn't counted on her pretending to be a little kid.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So if she's pretending to be a child and there's
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: like a detonation, that really does sort of change what
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the possibilities could be, because like if they are thinking
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: somebody is coming down with ammunition, like from above somehow,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: or like sending missiles, I could see them kind of oh, well,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: maybe this isn't a little kid, or maybe this doesn't
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: make a lot of sense, but we really should protect
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: her anyway, and sort of grabbing her for her own safety,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: and thinking that they're doing the right thing that maybe
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: if he misses, that actually drives them toward touching her
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: rather than the opposite. So once she began to act
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: like a kid, I started to really be like, oh shit,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I had sort of been sitting back, feeling confident that
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: even if he didn't like get a perfect shot, it
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: would still be something. Now I don't know that that's
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: how that would work. And it turns out I didn't
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: have to worry about any of that because Usav had
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: something very in mind. So earlier on in the episode,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: he Oosup is talking to Kinemon's friend whose name I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: will eventually remember. And you know, this guy can paint
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: things and then make them into three dimensional like alive
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: sometimes objects. At the end of a previous episode, us
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Up is over there looking at that bird and gets
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: this expression on his face. And I fully thought this
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: meant that he was going to use the bird to
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: transport the missile somehow, that he was going to make
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: something and it would like the bird would carry it
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: and drop it on their head. And I was telling
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: all of you that I really did not want him
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to put this bird through anything more, and that it
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: needed a rest and please don't Well, as it turns out,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I didn't have to worry because that was not his
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: intention at all. He looks at that bird this way
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: because it is giving him an idea for something else
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: that this guy can raw and create and what it
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: is is Usup's terrified face, his uh jack in the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: box facial attack or whatever it was that he called it.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: He gets this man, and we don't see it, so
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: it's a huge surprise. We just see him talking to
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Kiniman and his friend and him saying like, see, doesn't
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: it look perfect, and Kiniman says something like I would disagree.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I think it looks quite unhealthy or something like that,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: and that's all you get. So eventually when the reveal happens,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, okay, I see what that was about.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: And yeah, he has made this like three D model
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: of his own face that he had already scared her with,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: which works perfectly as we know, because she's experiencing like
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: PTSD from it. Now. Us Up would not know this,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: would like that this is the case for her, right,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: He does not know that she is experiencing this PTSD.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: He is just relying on the fact that she still
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: has trauma. I really don't care. This is the kind
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: of thing where if I felt like being a real nitpicker,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I could and that would be valid. But I am
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: so pleased with the overall effect of the surprise that
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: to me, it's really worth it that this ends up
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the way that it does. So it's not that she
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: has to get hit with a missile, it's that she
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: gets surprised again, which causes her to once again pass out.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: And you guys talking about the things that I wasn't
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: like fully understanding, let's bring up this one as well.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Your girl didn't even remember that if Sugar passed out again,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: it would also take care of the headcracker dolls that
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: are attacking our other friends a little bit further down
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: that plateau. I didn't even think of that. So it's
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: a good thing that Oosap is more on top of
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: shit than I am, because I very much was like
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: not keeping the whole big picture in mind, and I
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: felt very silly once I remembered, like, oh, yeah, she's
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: also doing this. So when she gets knocked out, all
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: of these other guys are handled, they all go down
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and they are like they start falling apart. It's a
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: very different effect than the other times that we've seen
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: people who were turned into toys turned back into human beings.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And it takes a second. I was starting to almost think, like,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: are we going to get that they've been chopped in
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: pieces so many times that even when they're turned back
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: to humans, they're still dead because they've and basically dismembered.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: You know, I thought it was gonna be kind of dark, potentially,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: it is not. It turns out to just be what
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: it looks like, which is there turning back into human beings.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: But I guess the way that she turned them into toys,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: it's treated a little bit as if like the central
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: area of their body, like their torso and head, is
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: really the part that was human, and then the part
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: that is the legs and like that part that falls
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: off is sort of extras that she added on to
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: increase their size. I maybe kind of off on that,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: but it really doesn't matter. That's sort of how I
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: interpreted it. And yeah, all of these guys like they
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: turned back into humans, and reminder that I can't remember
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: his name. I keep wanting to say, Maximus Gladius. He's
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: there when they turned back, and all of these guys
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: are like, oh my god, I was turned into a toy.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going on. And he says
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: to them like, don't be ridiculous. Of course, we were
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: going to turn you back as soon as the war
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: was over or whatever. As soon as the fighting was done,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and all of them are like, yeah, you mean it,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and it's just oh, sweetie, of course not no, that's
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: not what that was, what that was gonna be at all.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I've anytime that I see all of these like fucking
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: rubes getting lied to by people, I feel so sad.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: It's just like it just hits a little too close
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: to home these days, the number of people out there
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: that are just being snowed, and it's it's not even
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: really I know that I'm going off topic here for
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: a second, guys, but just forgive me. When I was
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: talking to Rashan about this the other day, Rashan had
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: been saying, like, you know, these people knew what they
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: were voting for, and I had to be like, Rashan,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I know that it feels satisfying to think that that
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: people are getting what they deserved, but I really don't
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: think they did know what they were voting for. And
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I cited a couple different things that Owen's family was
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: very surprised by, and many of them actually voted for
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Kamala this past election, which shocked me to hear. But
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the few that didn't were like hearing certain other things
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: and realizing I think that like they didn't have the
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: information they thought they did, And I think it's really
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: easy when you are surrounded by people who are better informed,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: who have more critical thinking skills, and who like look
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: for sources on information, you really get used to being
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: in a space that's like doing its due diligence, and
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: you expect that other people are as well, and that
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: they're just putting up blinders to the actual truth because
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: it's inconvenient. But I think the truth is that the
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: misinformation campaign is a lot more effective and a lot
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: more isolating and insulated than we realize it is. And
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: so trying to be like, these people know what it
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: is they're voting for, I don't think they do. I
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: think those of us who know better are like versed
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: in using technology and finding out things and researching in
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: a way that many people don't have the time, the energy,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: or maybe they don't understand the necessity of doing. And
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying at all, by the way, to wipe
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: away complicity, because there are certain things that I know
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: they did know about and they still voted for Trump,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: and to me, there's no excuse for that. But there
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: are plenty of details that have been coming up, because
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: since the inauguration, it has just been like a series
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: of bonkers news items coming into you know, like shit
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: that you're You're sitting there like are you fucking serious?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: And I just think they have been as blindsided in
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: some ways as we have been, because how could you
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: have really been prepared for some of what's happening. There's like,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: even those of us who were predicting things to be
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: very terrible, I don't think saw a lot of this
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: coming either. So anyway, all this to say that when
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I see like, fucking just these regular normy guys out
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: here being played by their own side, it makes me
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: really really sad. So Viola is like, you pulled it off.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: You truly are a remarkable sniper, and she starts crying,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: and it's so funny because us up is down again.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: This man just keeps on getting knocked the fuck out,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and the King is like, wait, he's triumphant. It's true.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: And this is when all of the townsfolk who had
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: tied up a bunch of them, like the point was
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: that they were going to use them as hostages. So
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: it is like later on in the next episode we
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: find out that they thought us and the pirates, we're
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: all on the same side. But actually it's you guys
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: haven't communicated what it was that you were intending to do,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and you don't mean for the same thing to happen
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: at all. So let's go to anger irerupts Loofy and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Law's ultimate What is the ultimate plan? It's too long.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: It won't show up on my little subthing while I'm
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: watching the episode. That's funny. Let's talk about what's going
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: on with Bellamy here. This is so weird, you guys.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I think ultimately that this is successful, but I do
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: want to share my puzzlement at the fact that Bellamy
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: is the character that we've chosen to do this with.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I feel like it does work, and
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: so it's I'm not This is not me complaining. It's
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: more that I think that we haven't spent as much
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: time with Bellamy as I would have expected for us
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: to be playing things this way. What I mean by
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: this is Bellamy's supposed to have sort of like turned
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: over a bit of a new leaf in some ways
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: agree that like he isn't going to uh to make
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: fun of Lufy anymore, that he's going to like that
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: he wants to continue to dream as well. But he
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: also said that he really really respects uh Dol Flamingo
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: and that this guy has been like a longtime hero
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: of mine. So as we know, he goes up there
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to talk to do Flamingo really thinking that he's going
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: to be made part of the family, and Do Flamingo
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: turns on him, and I'm unclear, Like I'll be honest, guys,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I don't totally remember what it was that made Do
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Flamingo turn on him initially, but obviously here he's using
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Bellamy against Lufy. And I couldn't tell if it's that
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: he was using Bellamy against Lufy from the beginning and
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: he knew that the two of them had become a
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: little friendlier, or if he was using Bellamy against Lufy
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: once he realized like that there just happened to be
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: a great opportunity, you know, and that he decided to
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: sort of lean into that, or maybe he just knew
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: that treating Bellamy this way at all was going to
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: like really bother Lufy and that it was just a
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: sort of like as a person, Lufy is going to
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: be against you, like tormenting anybody and making anybody suffer,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: So no matter who it is, even if they're not
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: personal friends, doing this kind of thing to anyone in
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: front of Lufy would illicit the same reaction, but the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: whole way he has like beat the shit out of Bellamy,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: and when Loofy and Law get up there, eventually he
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: does this thing. This is so unfortunate, and it's really
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: funny because like I was actually cheering on something that
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: was sort of similar the other day. I've been watching
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: the show Lucifer, which has been on Netflix, and there
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: is a frequent thing on that show that never gets
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: old for me, which is that anytime Lucifer is fighting
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: a group of people, he always like does this thing
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: where he picks up one of the guys by the
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: back of the neck because he's really strong, and when
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: somebody tries to punch him, he just holds that person
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: in front of his own face and he gets punched,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: and then the guy tries to take like a swinging
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: kick instead, and he holds the same guy out and
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: that guy takes the kick too, And he basically uses
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: people as very like handy human shield in a way
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: that is very funny to watch, in like really good choreography,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and so it like it felt very much like I
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: was kind of getting a bit of a finger from
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: the universe and being like, oh you thought that was funny. Huh,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: how about now? Because the way that Lufy's kick, like
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: he gets so enraged over how Bellamy has been treated
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: that he decides he's just gonna lash out at Do Flamingo,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: and Dope Flamingo winds up just holding up Bellamy in
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: front of his own face, so that Lufy winds up
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: kicking him instead in a moment that was like, the
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: thing is about Lufy. He projects what he's about to
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: do from a mile away, right, and like most of
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: the time that works out because people underestimate him so
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: much so they don't really like try and dodge or
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: react because there he presents such a goofy figure a
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: lot of the time that people are just sort of
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: smirking to themselves and then when they actually get hit
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh shit, okay, this is this is serious
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: after all. But Do Flamingo is probably like one of
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: the more intelligent villains that we have come across so far,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: and the way that he just holds Bellamy up, of
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: course he would like you you gave him so much
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: warning about what you were going to do that if
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: he hadn't defended himself in any way, I would have
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: been very surprised, and using Bellamy to do it just
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: makes the most sense. So and anyway, I just really
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: this whole thing is so funny to me because what
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: he uh, the way that he reacts, and how like
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: horrified he is at having kicked this poor guy, poor Lufy,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and Law for his part, he is extremely frustrated with Lufy,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: and up until now I have found that pretty much
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: just funny. And I've blamed Law himself more than anybody,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: because I felt like you got warned by a lot
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: of people along the way, dude, who you were working with,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: and you saw for yourself who you were working with,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and you just seemed to not want to believe people.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: So I don't really know why you continue to act
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: surprised when shit goes exactly the way that it's always gone.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: And to a degree, I do still feel that way.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: But he has been trying to impress upon Lufy that
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: he needs to control himself a little bit better, and
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: this is a moment when Lufy kicks Bellamy in the
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: face by accident where he is just like, this is
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: what I have been fucking talking about, dude, you need
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: to get a handle on your fucking anger. They are
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: prodding and poking and provoking you into reacting and you're
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: letting them and it's like embarrassing. And later on Trouble
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: you guys. Trouble in these episodes is the worst, Like,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I hate this man already. He just sucks, like he
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: is just very unappealing to look at. His voice is
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: incredibly irritating. But he's even worse in these episodes because
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: of the way that he just sort of mimics everything
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: that do Flamingo says. So Do Flamingo is just like, so,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: when did you guys become so chummy? And Treble's like, yeah, yeah,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: when did you become so chummy? Hau hau? When did
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: that happen? And You're just like, do you have a
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: single original thought in your hand, sir? Or are you
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: just gonna That's all he does is just sort of
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: like repeat the thing that Do Flamingo said, And then
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: later on he continues on in this vein where he's
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: just like yelling the like at Lufy, like, oh you
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: saw him get kicked Why did you do that? I
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: thought you guys were friends. Why would you kick him.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: It's like somebody like doing that thing where they're holding
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: your wrists and making your hands smack you in the
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: face and going stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, you know,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: like it's uh, it's it's just absolutely infuriating. So of course,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: then do Flamingo does a thing where he starts to
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: have Bellamy, like he's doing the puppeteering controlling thing where
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: he's making Bellamy attack Loofy and he's yelling for Loofy
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: like you've got to You've got to knock me out
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: or kill me because otherwise this like he's going to
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: make me kill you, And Lufy says, of course, I'm
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: not doing that. You're my friend, And I guess this
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: is really like I guess, like I I will say
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: that this is what we love about Loufy, right, that
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: we are the fact that he makes friends so easily
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: and that he considers people his friend for so little.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: But I did have to kind of be like, are
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: you because it just felt like you just weren't really
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: enemies anymore, but not that you were friends at this point,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: and Bellamy starts crying and I just like you guys,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Belley looks so fucking pitiful in this episode, the way
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: that there's the the like injuries on his face are animated,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: and the fact that like, you know, his head gets
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: lifted and he's crying the way that he is it
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: is distressing, Like it really hurts to look at him
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: so all together. As much as I was still sort
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: of like come on, what, well, like you guys aren't
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: really friend friends, right, once I got to this point,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I was a little bit more like, all right, you
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: know what, I think I accept that they're friends just
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: on like purely the value of the fact that Loofy
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to watch this happening to anybody that
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: he had been even a little friendly with, Like all
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: somebody has to do for him to be allied to
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: them forever basically is get give like by him lunch.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: So I suppose Bellamy saying like I won't doubt you
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: or laugh at you anymore does make sense. It's just
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: it's funny to me because it feels like it's so
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: little that we're basing all of this on. But I
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: guess that's really like his charm is that Lufy doesn't
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: need a lot for people to be considered his friends
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: in a way that's like, I will lay it all
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: down for you, and I won't begrudge it at all,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: you know. So the way that this fight goes, first
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: of all, I do want to talk about the The
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: first thing that Lufy does is he just sides that
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: he wants to speed up the way that they're going
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: to implement the fight against Do Flamingo. And the plan
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: is that Lufy, I guess, is going to come at
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Law and punch at him, but that Law is going
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: to use his ability to switch them out. So Lufy
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: like yells at him, I think it's time. He's pissing
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: me off, and he just begins to lunge forward. Trafalgar says, you, moron,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: this was supposed to be our secret plan. Why are
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: you like ruining it? And Lufy is heading for him,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: and so like, at first a part of me was like, well,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: then just don't do your plans, and then I realized, oh,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't, and Lufy is going to knock out
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: his own guy, which really is a hell of a
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: weak point in the plan, Like that does suck. So
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: he lands his punch and it's like a solid punch
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: and do Flamingo clearly isn't expecting it, and it is
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: a moment of like feeling of a satisfaction temporarily, but
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: it's so distressing once you see how little an effect
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: it really had, and Law is so irritated, and it's
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: just like, you really are the worst, aren't you? I
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: could fucking strangle you, like, and Lufy's response to this
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: is so weird. I have to assume that this is
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a cultural thing because it feels
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: like something that like, so Lufy's response when Trafalgar says
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: you're just the worst is that's just our generation. I mean,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: it feels like the sort of like phrasing that would
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: be used in common parlance in the modern day, like
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: you know, fucking zennials, you know that kind of energy.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: But it's just that we really haven't talked about generations
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: in this universe like that. It just it felt almost
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: like it took me out of the story for a
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: second because it felt like a very modern reference in
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: a way, or like just at least an outside of
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: universe reference. So yeah, I just I was I it
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: was just a moment of me kind of being like,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: that's a really weird response to have here, Like it
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: didn't It's not a terrible line, but it doesn't feel
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: like it suits one piece, particularly if that makes sense.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: So I just wanted to mention that because I it
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: was a pretty it was a moment that I felt
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: like I really enjoyed what was happening there, and then
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: when they had to take it to that like line,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: it sort of made me kind of jerk my head
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: and be like, wait, what was what is that? Like,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: it's just a strange response the you know. So anyway,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: jumping into the last of these three episodes, and I've
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: talked about a lot of this already, but uh, the
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: the way that the fight is going between Trafalgar and Treble,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: there is a pretty fun sequence where Treble is like
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: believing that he has figured out a way a Trafalgar's abilities,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: and it turns out that Trafalgar is using something called
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: a radio knife, and this causes Trouble to actually like
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: be cut off from his own abilities for a few minutes.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: So at first it looks like he's gotten the better
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: of Trouble, and then do Flamingo like steps in between
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: them unexpectedly in a very like protective, don't fuck with
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: my family kind of way. I know, I can't be
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: the only one that thinks about how much this like
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: whole family thing is giving fast and furious, But there's
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: really not very many other parallels that I can think of,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: so I won't be that drum particularly. I just wanted
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: to at least acknowledge it. But the way that this
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: like reaction is elicited from him did surprise me. I
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: was sort of thinking that it was going to be
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: a just sort of a like that's disrespectful to me,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: and instead it feels like much more of a I
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: actually care about my people in a way that is
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: like emotionally invested. And I really wasn't expecting that one
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: single little bit, like not at all, guys, So it
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: just truly shocked me the way that he seemed like
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: so upset and angry. And we eventually get the uh
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: reveal of what his father wanted to do and the deal.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: We don't actually get too much of the history. It's
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: just like a couple of little flashbacks, but the overall
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: like later on what it was, what it is that
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: trifal or not trafalgar, that dol Flamingo says, is like that,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I don't remember if he killed his own father or
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: but he did something to his own father, because the
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: flashbacks are of this, like clearly, very kind hearted man
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: saying we'll live humbly. And basically what we find out
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: is that they were part of the celestial dragons. But
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: his father didn't agree with the enslavement of people, and
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: so his whole deal was like, I want to get
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: away from them and live like on our own merits
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: and make our own living, and apparently do Flamingo was
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: way too indoctrinated already into the lifestyle of being waited
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: on by slaves and believing himself to be superior to
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: everyone else, so when this new life begins, he is
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: not adjusting to it at all, and his father is
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: like he is disgusted by his father's behavior, and eventually
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: he says like there's a couple of moments of him
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: just being like, why aren't people bowing down to us? Father, like, well,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: if we don't have slaves anymore, let's get some new ones,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Like this is not a kid who is I don't like,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say that you can't change after
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: a certain point, because it's totally untrue, but I am
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: saying that clearly do Flamingo is a type of kid
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: that would take a lot, like much more, a stronger
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: hand and much more time to change the way he
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: sees the world. Like clearly that shit had embedded itself
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: a lot, and his father seemed to believe that he's
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: young enough that he can adapt, you know, but people
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: have to, like they adapt if they want to adapt,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: and even then wanting to, it's still an effort and
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: it's still not always like successful or on the first try.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: But this kid doesn't want to adapt obviously, which when
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: you have lived like a king, I can see how
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: it would be really difficult to like leave that behind.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to pretend it would be easy for
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: me either, but as somebody who was raised with a
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: lot more money than we ended up with later on
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: in my life, my father used to be, when I
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: was very young, a drug dealer, and we lived in
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: this like big condo, and like I had all of
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: these cool like this just this stuff, and we were
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: able to do things and go on vacations and things.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: And then when I was like around eight years old,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: my dad decided that he wanted to put that life
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: behind him, and he became a born again Christian. We
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: sold the condo, We got rid of a lot of
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: our stuff, and you know, even down to our furniture,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Like he really felt a lot of the things that
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: we owned had been bought with blood money and he
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: was not wrong. And so we downsized considerably and it
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: was difficult, but it wasn't like impossible for me to
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: understand that circumstances change and that things are different. And
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: it just feels like the way that these flashbacks go,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: it feels like this guy was just grabbing his kids
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: and being like, hey, we're going on an adventure and
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: didn't really explain to them, like what it was going
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: to be like and how the ways in which it
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: would be different, and so like being like, why aren't
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: they bowing to us and why don't we have slaves.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: I can't help but feel, sir, that this is something
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: you should have gone over with your children before you
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: decided to like bounce from this life that you had,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Like they shouldn't have been surprised at the way they
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: are being treated now. You should have had a long
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: conversation with them about how different things were going to be,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: and I can't help but kind of be like, how
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: did you think this was going to go? This is
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: a hell of a culture shock. But Del Flamingo, after
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: he takes his dad out of the equation, he tried
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: to go back to the celestial Dragons, and they want
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with him. These people turn their back
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: on the family. And as far as the Celestial Dragons
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: are concerned, you don't get to just opt in and out.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: You left, you are now out, which is truly wild
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: because the fact that Do Flamingo took out his own
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: dad and you guys don't consider that like enough to
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: verify his loyalty to you all. I mean, what more
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: do you fucking want? You know? I just think that's
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: like you have done. You Like, not only have you
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: turned your back on somebody with the kind of loyalty
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: that I would think psychos like you would value, but
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: also this dude is clearly not okay, and you have
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: decided to make an enemy of him, which also feels
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: like deeply shortsighted. So this soul, this whole thing is
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: just like is it really didn't think this one through?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think at all. So anyway, that's like I'm
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: running out of time here, and I want to make
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: sure I talk about one more aspect of this story,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: because like, by the time things wrap up here, we
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: haven't finished this fight. But the other part of the
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: story that I wanted to touch on, we really quickly,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: like check in with Frankie, We check in with like
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Diamante and Kiros, but we don't spend a lot of
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: time with them. There is a bit with Senor Pink
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: just being like, after Frankie punches and he's like, was
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: that supposed to hurt? All I felt was a soft
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: breeze tickling my skin or something like that. And the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: bit that is going on still with Sabo and Fuji Tora.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: It's sort of weird because what it turns out to
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: be is that Fujiitura is essentially going to like bet
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: on the straw hats himself. And so after all of
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: this chaos and me being like, you guys are being
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: deeply irresponsible, what are you doing, they just decide that
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: they're gonna drop it for right now, which I can't
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: help but be like, you could have done that before
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: you destroyed half the island, guys, but you know whatever,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: And I don't know I just I just found this
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: to be like kind of an anti climactic way to
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: handle it. But it's fine. We do get Koala like
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: berating Sabo too and just being like I am always
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: here having to like clean up your messes, and because
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: you know, this is kind of looking like he is
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: thrown in with the Marines, and I guess this is
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: gonna you have some explaining to do. But the end
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: of the third episode is basically Fujiitura like appearing on
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: the plateau with Usap and Robin, or is Robin there.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think she's quite joined them yet, but it's
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: us Up and Viola and he's like tossing dice and
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: talking about gambling. And the King himself has also like
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: come around, because initially, when Viola was saying that she
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: had faith in the straw Hats, he was like they're criminals,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Like what do you Why are you so sure this
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: is going to work out? And she's like they have
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: still got their humanity and they're going to like reveal
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: all of the deception that's been happening. And so the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: King has come around on this as well and has
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: reached a point where he's like, yeah, you know, what.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't even notice it happening. But now I also
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: am like betting everything on them and hoping they'll be
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: able to like make this work. So that's fun. I
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: like that. I'm glad we're all on the same side
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: at this point. All Right, Well, I have to wrap
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: this one up, but yeah, really enjoying this arc so far,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: still very very much. So that's really fun. Also, though,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: I do want to know what is happening with Mommy
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: and Chopper and Brook please, I want to check in
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: with them. It's been a while now, it's been like
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: a while now, please just give me something, all right, everybody,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: thank you again so much for listening. Thank you Florian
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: for commissioning this one, and until next time to Blu motherfuckers.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: That was an Unspoiled Network podcast.