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- 0:20None. It's national.
- 0:22Cheeseburger day, evidently. Oh, I loved it all.
- 0:25I've got some burgers and Diet Coke the.
- 0:29Best. Burger in the City and David's
- 0:31doing a good job, everybody, right?
- 0:33I think David does. Everyone know David?
- 0:38He's doing a good job. You got this whole thing
- 0:41started? Yeah.
- 0:43I'll sign that menu. Yeah.
- 0:45Would you like 1? You want a hamburger?
- 0:46These burgers are killers. They're really.
- 0:49They're good. That's great, man.
- 0:57How's that? Nice.
- 0:57That's perfect. Amazing, you know, And one more
- 1:00right here would be fantastic. Don't mind.
- 1:02If anything, we have some gifts. For you.
- 1:04Good. I want Bitcoin.
- 1:12OK, you got it. Appreciate your open mindedness.
- 1:15Thank you so much for coming here.
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- 1:17It's a new era. That's what's happening.
- 1:20It's amazing to see what's happened in such a short period
- 1:23of time. Congratulations.
- 1:25Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you.
- 1:26Thank you, everybody. Thank you, Mr. President.
- 1:30Thank you. This suckers are good too.
- 1:39Yeah. This is a crypto burger.
- 1:46You should name them. Name a Bitcoin and a crypto.
- 1:52Plenty of them. You think you're going to be in
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- 1:58Do you want one? Huh.
- 2:00You want one? She's been great.
- 2:08I just think Greg Gutfeld, you have to watch it tonight.
- 2:11Greg, how many people were there?
- 2:12And Doug, you with it? Yeah, that's cool, right?
- 2:15He's done a good job. Is everyone no Pulitzer Prize
- 2:18winner that is one of the greats going to be Saints.
- 2:21Embarrassed. Embarrassed.
- 2:23OK, here you go, Doug. You're great.
- 2:27Always. He makes me look thin.
- 2:28That's. All I have a good time everybody
- 2:35yeah Windows 7 Bitcoin live your number one source of the
- 2:37peaceful Bitcoin revolution company breaking news
- 2:39culturomatic warfare will be your guide through the
- 2:41separation of money and state. Here is the first clip of Donald
- 2:44Trump at pub key in New York City and he did.
- 2:47This is the first time AUS president completed a Bitcoin
- 2:53transaction. We have the clip of that
- 2:55specifically later on in the show, but there you have like
- 2:58Trump bought burgers for everyone in the bar, just
- 3:01handing it out. I think at one point he said he
- 3:03called it a crypto burger. You can just hear the whole
- 3:05crowd say Boo, Boo. Anyways, from a historical
- 3:09perspective, this is absolutely massive.
- 3:11You can never have imagined this.
- 3:13You know 27 2016 2017 when I got in Ben got in earlier than I did
- 3:19can never have imagined this right Bitcoin being made legal
- 3:22tender in El Salvador 20/21/2024 You'd have a potential an ex
- 3:27president and potential future president, you know saying he'll
- 3:30protect the right to self custody.
- 3:32You know he'll protect the right to mine.
- 3:34He'll stop the operation choke .2 point O and there he is
- 3:37completing his first Bitcoin transaction at the famous
- 3:41Bitcoin bar in New York City pub key.
- 3:44So absolutely crazy historic. Here's the second part of the
- 3:48clip. Donald Trump, he is in a bar, I
- 3:54believe in downtown New York called the Pub Key in downtown
- 3:58Manhattan. Maybe we can play up some sound
- 4:00here guys. And see if he says anything.
- 4:01He's. Going to scan this QR code here
- 4:11with this phone. If you want to take that from
- 4:14him, scan the QR code right? Here.
- 4:16Right there. Right there.
- 4:17Just that one. And fantastic it went through.
- 4:54So absolutely historic moment as you could say he was having
- 4:57trouble. There was glare, he tried to
- 4:59scan it first it wasn't scanned, then they did it for him, but
- 5:02still it still counts in my opinion.
- 5:04Yeah, I mean, it's funny looking at that.
- 5:07It reminds me of the days of old where you would have somebody
- 5:12like onboarding a, a merchant or something and you'd have the
- 5:15demo video of like, look, we did the transaction and but now it's
- 5:19president doing it and it's just history doesn't repeat, but it
- 5:23rhymes. Yeah, absolutely.
- 5:25Man, this is such a historic moment, absolutely huge.
- 5:29And again, also a reminder of something that we've been
- 5:31talking about for the last couple days, the last couple of
- 5:35months really about the this upcoming election in the United
- 5:39States. It will have a major impact in
- 5:42the regulatory environment for Bitcoin businesses in the US.
- 5:45You don't want those Lightning wallets to continue to flee like
- 5:48wallet of Satoshi, like Phoenix wallet and also the persecution
- 5:52of Bitcoin developers like the Samurai guys.
- 5:55So yeah, it is going to be the first Bitcoin election and I
- 6:00think that is definitely a show of good faith.
- 6:01And I do want to give a shout out to the people that made it
- 6:03happen, I believe is Anthony Pompliano and David Bailey that
- 6:07played a big role in getting Trump to pub key to make his
- 6:11first Bitcoin president. The the first time AUS president
- 6:16makes a Bitcoin transaction. Absolutely historic moment in
- 6:19Bitcoin's history. And I do want to go legendary
- 6:22host who's here on the wings today.
- 6:25Optimus Field. How you doing bro?
- 6:28What's up, dude? What's up, Ben?
- 6:29How you doing? How you doing?
- 6:31I'm doing. I'm doing well, man.
- 6:33Everything's great. But yeah, what a what a
- 6:35interesting clip, to say the least.
- 6:37First of all, of course, seeing Donald Trump on a superficial
- 6:43level do a Bitcoin transaction does, as Nikka always say, break
- 6:47the Overton window. And then I think the most
- 6:49interesting part is there was a lot of Bitcoiners kind of
- 6:51talking about the fact that one, you know, didn't even seem like
- 6:55Trump was doing it himself. It's like, OK, he's like a
- 6:58boomer learning new technology. Like give the guy a break.
- 7:01But the the fact that this was on Fox News, like I think that
- 7:05is a historic event. Of course, for all of us younger
- 7:08people, none of us are watching corporate press and we probably
- 7:11don't watch Fox News. And I think the demographic is
- 7:14like 60 plus. But again, with the idea of the
- 7:17Overton window and having that transaction take place, yes, it
- 7:22was a little clunky considering that there was a lot of glare
- 7:25and there was some QR code issues with the lights and
- 7:27stuff. And yes, it wasn't necessarily
- 7:30Trump doing it himself. But again, he's still in his
- 7:32learning curve. And I think I got to give him a
- 7:35give him a break a little bit here.
- 7:36The fact that he's actually doing this, I think it's super
- 7:39historic. Of course, this is him
- 7:41campaigning. Like, let's not, you know, go
- 7:43into who's just a politician. This doesn't matter.
- 7:46Bitcoin doesn't need Trump or Bitcoin doesn't need
- 7:48politicians. Politicians need Bitcoin.
- 7:50We totally get it, guys. Like, of course we all think the
- 7:53same thing, but it is a historic event.
- 7:57Now everyone's saying is what was it?
- 7:59September 18th, official burger day for Bitcoiners.
- 8:02Like we have pizza day. But Nico, I know you want to get
- 8:05into the show real quick, but I do want to kind of do a little
- 8:08update on what the stack was here.
- 8:10Got this good tweet from Will Cole kind of clarifying a lot of
- 8:13stuff here. And Will Cole goes so lots of
- 8:16questions in regards to this transaction.
- 8:18We'll call this the Trump stack. Donald Trump wielded a strike
- 8:21wallet paying a Zaprite app Lightning invoice belongs to pub
- 8:25key who are running their own lightning LND node on voltage
- 8:28cloud. Very stable and reliable setup.
- 8:30In fact, everyone, everybody says it's the best thing.
- 8:33It's the best thing I've ever. And then just to clarify, Mags
- 8:37responds that was not as smooth as lightning transactions
- 8:40usually are. What happened?
- 8:41And Wilco responds lots of flash photography causing glare on the
- 8:45screen, plus an invoice that had been open for a long time in
- 8:48anticipation. They take lightning payments
- 8:50there every night with no hiccups.
- 8:52Was just a lot going on. And so I did see a lot of people
- 8:56basically saying like, oh, this was just a photo op.
- 9:00Of course, you know, like this was just a campaign political
- 9:03op. Totally was.
- 9:05Of course it was, of course it was.
- 9:07But still, I think the point remains the same that this was a
- 9:12historical historic moment in the in the Bitcoin space at
- 9:15large. Obviously, as Bitcoiners, we
- 9:17like to hype everything up. We get super excited about
- 9:19everything. But let's not take away from the
- 9:22fact that, you know, technically the 1st U.S.
- 9:25President to do a Bitcoin transaction at Pub Key in New
- 9:28York, I think is a legendary moment, which just goes to show
- 9:31how far this industry has grown. But I get it that, you know, a
- 9:35lot of anti politicians in the Bitcoin space, like bro, like
- 9:39when he had, when is he going to have his own lightning wallet,
- 9:42his own lightning non custodial wallet?
- 9:44And so there's just a lot of purity test.
- 9:46But still, guys, come on, he's a boomer.
- 9:49Like give the guy a break. I know there's boomers out there
- 9:51that do know how to use Bitcoin, but he's still early in his
- 9:55Bitcoin journey. And so it's still an important
- 9:58moment. But you know, I'll get hate on
- 10:00that. I don't really care.
- 10:01It is what it is. Yeah.
- 10:03And and I also got to say like do you remember the first time
- 10:06that do you remember the first time that you used a Bitcoin
- 10:11Lightning, I mean a Bitcoin wallet and a lightning
- 10:13transaction? Like you like it?
- 10:14It was, it was like somewhat difficult to do right.
- 10:18So yeah, this is a 78 year old man.
- 10:20He is pandering, but that's the whole point of politicians.
- 10:23And some of the things that, like I've been explaining, is
- 10:27Bitcoiners are now becoming part of his donor class.
- 10:31And at the end of the day, DC is run by DC.
- 10:35Politicians are run by their donors fundamentally.
- 10:38That's why Trump went there because they raised a lot of
- 10:41money for him in Nashville. And you know, he's he's doing
- 10:44the favor back. So we want Bitcoiners to be part
- 10:47of the donor donor base because that's how you actually
- 10:50influence American politics. Ben, do you want to add to that?
- 10:55I, I do and the most bullish thing about this, other than the
- 10:59fact that yes, we have a, a president, you know, that that
- 11:02is doing a lightning transaction is to me the pub key set up and
- 11:07what they've done. Because in the days of old,
- 11:09look, we're doing a Bitcoin transaction and the person would
- 11:12be receiving like the merchant would be receiving via BitPay,
- 11:15which is getting dumped to dollars immediately.
- 11:18And they've got first of all, ZAP rights.
- 11:20Incredible. I use that myself for invoicing,
- 11:23but they, they have their own, their own lightning node.
- 11:26They've got this full set up where they can accept it on the
- 11:28spot. And I can testify to the way
- 11:30that they've got it set it up because it's very much the the
- 11:32way that I use it. And it works beautifully.
- 11:35And it's and, and you have control over the full stack and
- 11:38they're stacking those sats, right?
- 11:40They're not, they're not dumping them to dollars.
- 11:42So that's the bullish thing here, in my opinion.
- 11:45Absolutely. And of course, like, you know,
- 11:48we all work in showbiz, right? But when you have a president
- 11:53right there, you know, your hands a little bit more shaky
- 11:56than it normally would. But but yeah, maybe it maybe it
- 12:00caused a bad impression on Trump, but normally it works.
- 12:04Florida State anyway, so. The the best part was is like we
- 12:07brought a gift for you. It's like, yes, I want Bitcoin.
- 12:09I want. Bitcoin, he definitely knows.
- 12:12He definitely knows the things to say.
- 12:13In other news, we're going to talk about Congressman Warren
- 12:16Davidson continuing to just criticize Gary Gensler and his
- 12:23attack on self custody. We're also going to talk again
- 12:26about the RNC platform this year, about their promises about
- 12:30a the ending, the crackdown on the industry, supporting the
- 12:35right to self custody, the offend, the right to mine, and
- 12:38also opposing the creation of a central bank digital currency.
- 12:43The state of Louisiana becomes the first state to accept
- 12:47cryptocurrency payment. So we're going to get into the
- 12:50details of that. And of course, BlackRock
- 12:53released a report specifically mentioning all these things
- 12:58about they, they sound like bitcoiners.
- 12:59It's crazy, but we all have to be very, very wary because at
- 13:02the end of the day, they don't actually, you know, that what
- 13:06they're what they're recommending is Bitcoin, but
- 13:08what they're recommending is ETF Bitcoin, not spot Bitcoin.
- 13:12So that's something important to keep in mind.
- 13:15Anyways, during the culture segment we are going to, we are
- 13:17going to highlight Ben's new company beat Bitcoin mentor.
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- 17:31absolutely grilling and questioning Gary Gensler's
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- 18:11Davidson. This is about a 4 minute clip.
- 18:12It's absolutely awesome and I just love clips where Gary
- 18:15Glenzer is getting absolutely wrecked.
- 18:17Let's check it out. Mr. Reiners, I hope no one's
- 18:19listening to you about this. Oh, sorry about that, ladies and
- 18:23gentlemen. Here we go.
- 18:23Let's try that one more time. Listening to you about this
- 18:26market, especially as a student trying to understand the space,
- 18:30it's over a trillion dollars just for Bitcoin.
- 18:33The markets over $2 trillion. Clearly lots of consumers find
- 18:37value in this space. And frankly, the idea that you
- 18:40could point out that there's only one time that the SEC was
- 18:43even partially wrong has to be willful ignorance.
- 18:46I mean, I don't know how it could be anything other than
- 18:48deceit. I don't.
- 18:49It's hard for me to understand because on August 29th, 2023,
- 18:53the Circuit Court upheld the position that the SEC violated
- 18:56the Administrative Procedures Act when it denied Grayscale's
- 18:59application to convert Grayscale Bitcoin Trust into a Bitcoin
- 19:05ETP. Following that decision, the SEC
- 19:08waited until January of 2024 to actually approve the conversion.
- 19:12And they basically was a was a pure review of of the actions.
- 19:19If you look at Debt box, another pure review, lawyers would
- 19:22normally get disbarred for the conduct of SEC in the debt box
- 19:26case. So there are lots of cases where
- 19:29they've been caught and told that they were wrong by the
- 19:31courts, and the market continues to reinforce that there really
- 19:35is value. Just looking at at Bitcoin
- 19:37alone, people right now believe that it's a secure way to store
- 19:42value with a level of confidence of around $60,000.
- 19:48I mean, that's a, a new security product on the market that you
- 19:51could digitally secure a unit of value and people believe in it
- 19:57enough to put almost $60,000 into one unit of measure in a
- 20:01Bitcoin. And they don't just want to
- 20:03store it there, they want to be able to transfer it in a
- 20:05permissionless peer-to-peer way. So if you read the Bitcoin white
- 20:09paper available at bitcoin.org, you could see the concept even
- 20:13if you just read the abstract. It's not just meant to be parked
- 20:16there or speculated on. It's meant to be able to.
- 20:18Be moved in a permissionless way and we don't know how much of
- 20:23that trillion dollars of market cap in Bitcoin is self custody
- 20:29versus third party custody. But the SEC under Gary Gensler's
- 20:34leadership has willfully undermined the ability for
- 20:37anyone to custody digital assets, not just Bitcoin but the
- 20:42rest of the space as well. So they've decided that if they
- 20:46can't completely end the entire space, they want to push custody
- 20:52of it to some third party that they can control or manipulate.
- 20:56They certainly don't want individual American citizens to
- 21:00custody their own wealth and be able to move it amongst others.
- 21:04So Mr. Fazzaro, when, when, when you look at this space and the
- 21:11special purpose broker dealer path that we saw people saying
- 21:17we'd love to try to custody digital assets for others.
- 21:21What kind of problems did you find with the current framework
- 21:24offered by Mr. Gensler? A few of the challenges related
- 21:30to this framework are that relate specifically to Bitcoin
- 21:34and crypto exchange traded products that I can mention.
- 21:38One is that as an issuer an offer of the someone who wants
- 21:43to offer these products. The larger and well established
- 21:48custody banks that typically participate in custody of assets
- 21:52in collective investment vehicles are effectively barred
- 21:56from participating in the space. They don't have a way to bring
- 22:00custody services to the market. That's one challenge.
- 22:04A second one that I'd like to mention is that in the ETF
- 22:07structure itself or the ETP structure itself, typically the
- 22:11funds have a creation of redemption mechanism that works
- 22:15through what is known as an in kind process where the fund
- 22:19exchanges shares in in exchange for the underlying asset itself.
- 22:25Because broker dealers are not able to handle Bitcoin and
- 22:28crypto, we can't have that type of mechanism in the exchange
- 22:33trader. Is that a consistent way that
- 22:35it's applied for ETP ETF products?
- 22:37Are they treating this differently?
- 22:40In in overseas jurisdictions, we have in kind transactions that
- 22:44occur in ETFs and Etps, but it's consistently applied here in
- 22:48that we're not able to bring that type of structure to
- 22:50market, which is the thing that we we think slightly increases
- 22:53cost for end users. So I mean, like again, it's the
- 22:57continuation of Operation Choke .2 point O and the continuation
- 23:01of like, OK, maybe we can't ban this thing outright, but if we
- 23:05ban self custody, it still achieves the same thing.
- 23:08And you could still see them doing this in the background,
- 23:12right? And this leads me to the
- 23:14importance of this year's election.
- 23:16So we have one party that is anti Bitcoin, pro CBDC and we
- 23:21have another party who is pro Bitcoin, anti CDC.
- 23:26And now that RFK has bowed out out of the race and supported
- 23:29Donald Trump, it's literally it's a two party system.
- 23:33I know it's not perfect. I know Trump is not a pure
- 23:35Bitcoin maxi. He supports Bitcoin and crypto.
- 23:38I know that's unpopular with a lot of Bitcoiners, but the the
- 23:42other option I think is terrible as highlighted in that clip.
- 23:46And just to continue the continuation of this this attack
- 23:49on the industry. So this is the official
- 23:51Republican Party platform on #5 it says champion innovation
- 23:55specific. There's a specific part that
- 23:57focuses on Bitcoin and crypto and it says Republicans will end
- 24:01Democrats unlawful and UN American crypto crackdown and
- 24:04oppose the creation of a central bank digital currency.
- 24:07We will defend the right to mine Bitcoin and ensure every
- 24:10American has a right to self custody of their digital assets
- 24:13and transact free from government surveillance and
- 24:16control. So it's very, very clear there.
- 24:19I know it's very uncomfortable for a lot of people having this
- 24:21conversation. And the reason for that is
- 24:23because I think politics are divisive.
- 24:26I think by definition they're divisive.
- 24:28It's the organization of power. But what I would say is,
- 24:32remember Bitcoin is a separation of money and state.
- 24:35Bitcoin fixes a lot of these problems.
- 24:37So it's important to put Bitcoin over party and we have two clear
- 24:41choices ahead of us in this upcoming election in the United
- 24:44States in November. And I got to say, you know, I
- 24:47would rather vote for Trump. That's not perfect.
- 24:50Then vote for the Kamala Harris that will continue their crusade
- 24:57against the industry as highlighted right there.
- 24:59You, you, you saw Warren Davidson.
- 25:01He he, he identified it. He's like, look, even if they
- 25:03don't get rid of digital assets altogether, they're going to go
- 25:07after self custody. And the reason for that is
- 25:09simple. They don't want for people to be
- 25:12able to hold money of which they can't debase.
- 25:16That's fundamentally what it comes down to.
- 25:18But this doesn't surprise me. This is the separation of money
- 25:21and say this is what it's all about.
- 25:23But we now have the ability to do something about it as
- 25:26bitcoiners become part of the donor class.
- 25:29And if Trump does get elected, I think it will be very, very
- 25:32positive from a regulatory perspective for Bitcoin and
- 25:36Bitcoin businesses in the US. Anyways, I'm gonna pass it on to
- 25:39Ben. Ben, similar in Canada in the
- 25:42sense that right, you had Trudeau, the the famous Canadian
- 25:46truckers protest, which you're a part of.
- 25:49And then you have Poli Rare who's running and he has a pro
- 25:53Bitcoin stance as well. So this isn't just AUS
- 25:56phenomenon. This is happening on a global
- 25:58level. Yeah, and and, and we so Polyev
- 26:03came out relatively early in in support of Bitcoin and, and you
- 26:08could you could see him as he navigated the waters of Bitcoin
- 26:13and crypto. And actually he, he kind of went
- 26:15the opposite direction of Trump in that he started specifying
- 26:18Bitcoin specifically of what he he likes.
- 26:22He's, he's a very free market type person, but he does, he
- 26:25does have a preference of what he likes and to, to Trump's
- 26:30burger. I'll, I'll see Trump's burger
- 26:33and I'll raise you a future Prime Minister of Canada that
- 26:36bought shawarma at Tahini's with Bitcoin.
- 26:39So, so yeah, he, he's very likely to be the next Prime
- 26:43Minister of Canada. So are you saying that Poli bear
- 26:45he front ran Trump he. Did he definitely did, yeah,
- 26:49because that was a few years ago that he was buying shawarma at
- 26:52Tahini's in Ontario. And and yeah, I mean, he, he, I
- 26:58don't know that he'll, he'll be, that he'll make sweeping
- 27:03regulatory changes that are, you know, like we're not going to
- 27:06have legal tender Bitcoin in, in Canada.
- 27:09However, what I'll say in in what you're talking about, well,
- 27:13you've got a binary choice here. You want as much runway as you
- 27:19can to build out the tools so that people can self custody, so
- 27:24people can continue to transact in a permissionless manner
- 27:27because at at some point all these tools become too difficult
- 27:32to crack down upon. But if we can get more time and
- 27:36yes, if it, if that comes with like a side of crypto,
- 27:40unfortunately, you know, I prefer that to throwing devs in
- 27:44jail. So that's those are a choice.
- 27:46100% right, It is pretty black and white in my opinion.
- 27:49OPT Do you want to chime in real quick before we move on to news
- 27:52because we have a lot to cover? Yeah, well, first and foremost,
- 27:55shouts out to Lauren Davidson. He's been on the beat for a long
- 27:58time and I think he is without a doubt a bitcoiner.
- 28:02He's definitely done his homework and love to see that he
- 28:06is in that position and actively fighting for the Bitcoin
- 28:09industry. So love to see that.
- 28:11Second, I've said it before, I think it was very obvious who
- 28:16Gary Gensler was actually working for.
- 28:18Everyone knows that he was an MIT professor doing a Bitcoin
- 28:22and blockchain class. And then he becomes the head of
- 28:25the SEC and he basically actively fought to stop the
- 28:30Bitcoin ETF as far as everyone was concerned.
- 28:33It looked like he was, you know, telling the line for some people
- 28:36above him. So that's why he gets a lot of
- 28:38really bad rap. And then the Republican versus
- 28:42Democrat party. I've said it before, you know,
- 28:44either way, all roads lead to Bitcoin.
- 28:45We will accelerate towards Bitcoin adoption whoever gets in
- 28:48power. I think the four year cycle is
- 28:50still intact. But when you really kind of look
- 28:53at both sides, it seems to be 1 is anti Bitcoin pro CBDC and the
- 28:57other one, and it may not be perfect, but it's pro Bitcoin
- 29:00and shit coins and wants to accelerate Bitcoin adoption.
- 29:04So it's all going towards hyper bitcoinization at some point.
- 29:08But actually before I move on, sorry, Nico Sessions, you
- 29:11reminded me, did we ever get one?
- 29:13And maybe I, you know, I have a bad memory.
- 29:15I have a goldfish memory here guys.
- 29:16But did we ever see a video of Naibu Kelly doing transactions
- 29:20with Bitcoin? Because that was one of the big
- 29:23criticisms that people were saying of Trump.
- 29:25He's like, oh, he didn't actually do it.
- 29:27And then I was thinking, I'm like, yeah, and yet we love
- 29:30Naibu Kelly, but I don't remember him actually doing like
- 29:33a video. You know, obviously a political
- 29:34campaign, a political op in doing a transaction, but I don't
- 29:39that interesting. I, I don't recall seeing that
- 29:42also like they're, they're pushing the, the Chivo wallet
- 29:45down there, which it, it, it had its issues out the gate.
- 29:48So I feel like that demo would have been rockier than than
- 29:53Trump's. Just there.
- 29:54So yeah, no, I don't recall having seen it.
- 29:57I don't know. Nico, do you remember?
- 29:59I don't recall, but what I will say is I'm going to give Naimbu
- 30:02Kayla a free pass here. And the reason for that is
- 30:04simple. I was able to when I landed in
- 30:07El Salvador, you pay a customs fee and I was able to pay that
- 30:10customs fee in Bitcoin on chain or Lightning.
- 30:14It was it was absolutely surreal.
- 30:16And he did make Bitcoin legal tender, so I'm.
- 30:20Gonna give a naive but this was more on people talk.
- 30:23I'm gonna give him that moment. I'm gonna give him a free pass.
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- 33:12All right, so today's news is Louisiana State government
- 33:17accepts first cryptocurrency payment.
- 33:20Louisiana State Treasurer John Fleming announces an innovative
- 33:24transition with state government's plan to accept
- 33:27cryptocurrency as a valid form of payment.
- 33:30You can't have it both ways. You can't say Bitcoin isn't
- 33:33money and then say, hey, we're going to accept it as a form of
- 33:36payment, right? You can't pick and choose which
- 33:39laws are convenient anyways. Allowing the integration of
- 33:42digital currency into Louisiana's public operations,
- 33:45Louisiana residents will now have the option to pay for state
- 33:48services with their private secure crypto wallets.
- 33:52These popular type of currencies will be accepted Bitcoin,
- 33:56Bitcoin, Lightning and USD coin. That that that isn't
- 33:59cryptocurrency payments, that is Bitcoin and that is Lightning.
- 34:02I'm so that is crazy that they're accepting Lightning off
- 34:06the gate. Hopefully, it will go a little
- 34:08bit smoother than the Trump one. In fact, the first
- 34:12cryptocurrency payment was made today to the Louisiana
- 34:16Department of Wildlife and Fisheries.
- 34:18Fisheries, a unique service, converts incoming cryptocurrency
- 34:21payments, depositing U.S. dollar amounts into state government
- 34:25accounts like a credit slot or debit card transaction.
- 34:28The service protects the state from previous worries about
- 34:31accepting cryptocurrency and promotes the adoption of new
- 34:34technologies in the state's infrastructure.
- 34:37I mean, again, this is a continuation of the trend.
- 34:39This happens literally, I think the day before Trump did that
- 34:44transaction. So just imagine five years from
- 34:47now where we'll be. And it makes me incredibly,
- 34:50incredibly bullish. Anyways, you guys want to
- 34:53comment on this before we move on to the BlackRock news.
- 34:55Ben. Yeah, so I, I I do find it funny
- 35:00though, the following cryptocurrencies will be
- 35:02accepted Bitcoin, Bitcoin Lightning as if they're like
- 35:05different, different currencies and and USD coin.
- 35:07So I'm I'm I'm torn on this because on one hand I'm I, you
- 35:12know, I'm not a fan of giving Bitcoin to governments, But on
- 35:17the other side of things, I will say that for somebody, you know,
- 35:21if somebody's like like myself, a crazy person living on
- 35:25Bitcoin, things like this where you can just like get your bills
- 35:29out of the way and just easily pay with Bitcoin and via
- 35:31lightning from anywhere on the planet, even if you're
- 35:34travelling, you can like ZAP and pay a bill or something like
- 35:37that. That is, that is a step above
- 35:39and beyond and it's, it's a, a, a huge step forward over the
- 35:45legacy system. So I I think that's important.
- 35:47100% and and one of the things I I found curious as well is that
- 35:53they're converting it to Fiat immediately.
- 35:56So it's like, yeah, we'll accept your Bitcoin, but we're going to
- 35:59convert it back to we're going to convert it back to something
- 36:02that we can just print money out of thin air of Yeah, I mean, I
- 36:07agree with you. It's like don't give money to
- 36:09the state, but at the same time the state is immediately
- 36:12converting it back to Fiat, which is absolutely hilarious.
- 36:16Anyways, Opti, what's your take on this yellow Opti cane some
- 36:20muscle mass. We got yellow in the house.
- 36:23Yellow is the CEO of Bitcoin. He is Satoshi.
- 36:27So any price movements are one hundred 100% caused by yellow.
- 36:33So if you guys have any complaints or anything at all
- 36:35about Bitcoin's price, please, you know, tag yellow or message
- 36:39yellow on Twitter. That's a joke.
- 36:41But anyways, Opti, what's your take on this?
- 36:44I mean, it is bullish in the sense that I think we get the
- 36:47best of both worlds, right? Louisiana's accepting Bitcoin as
- 36:50payment and lightning as payment, and they're selling it
- 36:53immediately. So like, you know, I think we
- 36:57get the best of both worlds as Bitcoiners here.
- 37:00Yeah, I have to double down on the same thing that session
- 37:03said. I'm not a fan of giving
- 37:06governments your Bitcoin, but I think it does go to show that
- 37:09the Bitcoin industry is maturing.
- 37:11I know one of the big flood lines that I hear all the time
- 37:14is that classic like, oh, well, you can't buy things with
- 37:17Bitcoin or, you know, wait until a government is is taking
- 37:21Bitcoin for taxes and then we'll talk.
- 37:23Well, it seems like that point and we've, we're there like
- 37:27we've crossed that bridge now. And yeah, hey, if they want to
- 37:30convert, get back to Fiat, like have fun staying poor.
- 37:33I guess there's still a lot of room to go in terms of education
- 37:37and teaching people that you want to store the Bitcoin, not
- 37:40just receive it as payments. But hey, we'll take baby steps.
- 37:44We'll take baby steps here. And people have to learn this.
- 37:46So over time, more and more people will learn this, more and
- 37:50more nations will learn this, more and more states will learn
- 37:52this. So hopefully more states do
- 37:54follow. And it really, it really goes to
- 37:57the next question of how are they going to beat Bitcoin in
- 38:01returns in, in terms of capital gains tax and all that stuff.
- 38:05People were kind of saying the same thing with the Trump
- 38:08transactions, like did he play, did he pay cap gains on that
- 38:11transaction? What's going on here?
- 38:13So I think it's it's interesting developments and we're going to
- 38:16see more and more data points of seeing States and countries try
- 38:21to figure out how to actually deal with Bitcoin since it is a
- 38:24whole new money tech. There is a learning curve and it
- 38:27seems like we're still in the early fax days, the AOL Internet
- 38:32days. But hey, we'll take slowly but
- 38:34surely over, you know, catastrophe here any day.
- 38:38So I think this is, this is, I don't know if I'd say bullish
- 38:41Nico, but I think this is, this is good signal that things are
- 38:45improving and politicians and regulators and people in power
- 38:49are at least at the very lowest terms looking at Bitcoin
- 38:53differently because it it is maturing. 100% also shout out to
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- 39:07coming in Anyways everybody before we move on to the
- 39:10culture, I just want to talk about Blackrock's presentation
- 39:14that they released a couple days days ago.
- 39:16The name of the presentation for the audio listeners is Bitcoin,
- 39:20a unique diversifier. Why Bitcoins appeal to investors
- 39:24lies and it's detached from traditional risks and return
- 39:28drivers. That's right, ladies and
- 39:30gentlemen. That was BlackRock that said
- 39:31that not too long ago. They're talking about ESG.
- 39:35You know, Bitcoin really does fix things, I guess.
- 39:37Anyways, it goes on to say key points number one, investors
- 39:41considering allocating to Bitcoin are grappling with how
- 39:43to analyze it relative to traditional financial assets
- 39:46given Bitcoin's unique properties and limited history.
- 39:492 Bitcoin, with its high volatility, is obviously a quote
- 39:53risky asset on a stand alone basis.
- 39:56However, most of the risk and potential return drivers Bitcoin
- 39:59faces are fundamentally different from traditional risky
- 40:02assets, making it unfitting for most traditional finance
- 40:06frameworks, including the quote risk on and.
- 40:09Risk off framework employed by some macro commentators.
- 40:13That line is so important because this isn't a report
- 40:17coming from a rando on Twitter. This is coming from BlackRock
- 40:22and this is being shown to all the wealth management banks.
- 40:26This is being that this report is being read by everyone and
- 40:28they're literally telling you this is not a risk on asset.
- 40:31You can't treat it as such. This is a completely different
- 40:34asset. Key point #3 Bitcoins nature as
- 40:38a scarce non sovereign, non sovereign.
- 40:41The centralized global asset has caused some investors to
- 40:44consider it as a flight to safety option in times of fear
- 40:48and fear and around certain geopolitically disruptive events
- 40:53#4 over the long term, Bitcoin adoption trajectory is likely to
- 40:57be driven by the intensity of concerns over global monetary
- 41:01stability, geopolitical stability, US fiscal
- 41:04sustainability. Dude this is crazy that
- 41:07BlackRock is. They're basically saying, like,
- 41:09look, Bitcoin's gonna go up forever, Laura, because the US
- 41:13government is putting too much money and US political
- 41:15stability. This is an inverse of the
- 41:17relationship that is generally attributed to traditional risk
- 41:20assets with respect to such forces.
- 41:23That is so insane because they're basically saying like,
- 41:26look guys, even if the US political situation and the
- 41:32fiscal situation gets worse in the US, that's actually good for
- 41:36Bitcoin and that makes number go up.
- 41:38And again, this is BlackRock saying this out of everyone
- 41:41right now. They have this little graphic
- 41:44here for the audio listeners. It says what makes Bitcoin
- 41:46relevant? Persistent historical challenges
- 41:49around money prone to inflation in the basement given a non
- 41:52fixed supply 2. Difficult to transact across
- 41:55borders 3. Access limited to one's
- 41:57particular country controlled by central authority.
- 41:59Then they said what bit what Bitcoin made possible.
- 42:02Fixed maximum supply of 21 million, digitally native and
- 42:06borderless permission permitting, near instantaneous
- 42:09global transfer of value. First truly Open Access global
- 42:13monetary system. And then it just goes and shows
- 42:17the charts. This is insane.
- 42:19And then of course, you know, it's it's it's saying that the
- 42:22returns and the XS, the first cycle 592 X, the 2nd 555 X, the
- 42:273rd 104 X, the, I think the 4th 21 X and then the upcoming one,
- 42:33nobody knows. But yeah, I mean, this is crazy.
- 42:36They're making the case that it's an uncorrelated asset.
- 42:39And again, guys, the signal here is the fact.
- 42:42And look, it's showing you all the events and how Bitcoin
- 42:44performed, right. So US, Iran escalation, the S&P
- 42:48fell the pandemic, the S&P only did 2% Bitcoin, which is green
- 42:53on every single thing. Bitcoin does not care.
- 42:56The honey badger does not care. And again, the signal here is
- 43:00the fact that this report came from BlackRock.
- 43:04And this is being read by wealth managers all around the world,
- 43:07the biggest banks, the biggest institutional investors.
- 43:11And they're seeing this. And BlackRock, Larry Fink is
- 43:14making the case as to why Bitcoin is an alternative asset.
- 43:18Bitcoin is going to go up no matter what.
- 43:20And actually, despite unstable political situations in the
- 43:24United States, despite the, you know, the unsustainable fiscal
- 43:28policy that actually benefits Bitcoin, which is crazy that you
- 43:32have Larry Fink as admitting to something like that.
- 43:35Yeah, it's it's funny at this phase of Bitcoins adoption,
- 43:39watching the suits trumpet the exact same points that
- 43:46bitcoiners have been making for years.
- 43:48You know, you have Larry Fink saying while cap supply, it's
- 43:52meant to stand in the face of money printer go Burr, you know,
- 43:56in more professional language than that, But that's
- 43:58effectively what he's saying. He's saying, listen, listen,
- 44:01Bros, money printer go Burr, that's bad.
- 44:04We need cap supply. We need censorship.
- 44:06Like he's basically saying that to, to money managers and it's
- 44:11wild to see it's I, I, I again, all of the things we just
- 44:16finished talking about a previous and possibly future
- 44:19U.S. President buying burgers with
- 44:21Bitcoin. We're talking about the CEO
- 44:23BlackRock orange Pilling money managers around the globe.
- 44:27We're we're in in my wildest dreams.
- 44:30I didn't realize it would happen this quickly, which makes me
- 44:34wonder what's in store in the next epoch or two.
- 44:38Dude, it's going to be absolutely nuts.
- 44:40Opti. I mean, bro, does this surprise
- 44:42you? It sounds like they're, they've
- 44:44been listening to simply Bitcoin and Opti.
- 44:47And I think they were taking some inspiration while they were
- 44:50writing that report, my friend, because it's they're saying a
- 44:54lot of the things that we've been saying for years now.
- 44:56They've been listening to Piero Shard.
- 44:58Let let's get this straight. Let's get this.
- 45:00Straight. Yeah.
- 45:01I mean, look, I've been saying this for a while and I think the
- 45:03biggest news to come out of this whole BlackRock ETF was a couple
- 45:08of weeks ago when they said that they were going to unleash.
- 45:10I forget what the number is, but like 1500 or actually that might
- 45:14have been Morgan Chase, I forget.
- 45:16But essentially the idea is now that BlackRock has finally got
- 45:20into the space, now that Bitcoin is got that legitimization of
- 45:25BlackRock, they're unleashing all of their asset institutional
- 45:29managers out there and sending this out to all of their
- 45:32clients. And so I look this up real
- 45:34quick. BlackRock manages assets for
- 45:36clients in over 100 countries. The company helps over
- 45:3835,000,000 Americans invest to save for retirement on behalf of
- 45:42client. BlackRock manages the pension
- 45:44savings of over 12 million people in the UK alone and of
- 45:47course has approximately $10.5 trillion in assets under
- 45:51management. So this isn't just some small
- 45:54YouTube podcast here they are sending these reports to some of
- 45:58the wealthiest people out there. A huge cohort of people out
- 46:01there are listening to what BlackRock is saying.
- 46:04And I, I venture to guess that they got this in their e-mail on
- 46:08whenever it came out, what was it yesterday or whatever, Like
- 46:10it hit all of their client, it's emails.
- 46:13And now they're all reading about Bitcoin and they're all
- 46:16getting the same signal that we're saying except for it comes
- 46:19from the suit. So it holds a little more
- 46:21legitimacy here. And, yeah, it's beautiful to see
- 46:24that they're saying exactly what we are saying, which should
- 46:27really get people to kind of be more concerned about where the
- 46:31economy really is right now. If they're going this bullish on
- 46:34Bitcoin and they're sending this these kinds of reports out to
- 46:37people. I don't know, if I was someone
- 46:40with a lot of wealth that wasn't a young person, I would probably
- 46:43listen to them and be like, yeah, maybe I need to get some
- 46:45Bitcoin right now because things aren't exactly as they seem.
- 46:49And maybe the traditional financial world isn't as healthy
- 46:53as I believe it to be. And maybe money printing is a
- 46:55bad thing. And so as much as BlackRock does
- 46:59make me feel icky and, you know, it gets me concerned that they
- 47:02basically own everything on planet Earth, it's good to see
- 47:05that they're at least spreading that signal out there and more
- 47:08people are going to look to Bitcoin as a viable investment
- 47:12option. Of course they're showing their
- 47:14ETF, but slowly but surely they'll go into spot Bitcoin
- 47:17once they realize that there's financial trickery that can play
- 47:20out in the ETF. And also like, like the, the
- 47:23ETFs, right? So like with people like, OK, so
- 47:26like you're doing, I guess for convenience 'cause you want to
- 47:28buy it with like your Charles Schwab account or whatever, but
- 47:31like, OK, you're, you have to pay a fee when you buy the ETF
- 47:35number one. And #2 you have third party
- 47:39custody risk. So there's literally no upside
- 47:43for buying the ETF instead of buying spot Bitcoin and taking
- 47:47itself custody. I get it from a legal
- 47:49perspective, there are some type of institutions that can't buy
- 47:53spot Bitcoin, They have to buy the ETF there.
- 47:56I understand. But for the vast majority of
- 47:59people, BlackRock, I appreciate you being the employee of the
- 48:03year employee of the month for Bitcoin.
- 48:06But just keep in mind everybody spot Bitcoin is a real thing.
- 48:10ETF Bitcoin is is is definitely ruggable.
- 48:13Anyways guys, stay tuned. To hilari pump my bags.
- 48:16Stay tuned for the culture. We got BTC sessions.
- 48:19Coming up, we're gonna talk about Bitcoin, mentor, circular
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- 49:52Stuff got weird for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely,
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- 50:00I think Tone did an incredible job and really, really enjoying
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- 50:05So Ben, you've been working on quite, quite a couple things.
- 50:09I want to start off with Bitcoin Mentor, which is your latest
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- 50:14partner Mike. Yeah.
- 50:16So basically I, I for quite some time I was doing one on ones
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- 50:23there's eight years worth of, of tutorial content online and that
- 50:27that does a lot of people a lot of good.
- 50:29But often times you can kind of encounter hurdles and maybe
- 50:34maybe you run into a snag that wasn't present in the video or
- 50:37you just are uncomfortable. You want somebody to hold your
- 50:40hand while I was doing one on ones with people.
- 50:43But it got to a point where I was being booked so frequently
- 50:47that I couldn't keep up with the channel.
- 50:49And so it it was just kind of meant to be that that I I met my
- 50:54Co founder Mike Cook in Calgary and he came to me with this idea
- 50:58of like, hey, let's build out this thing.
- 51:01And we, we basically put out the word for people who wanted to be
- 51:05Bitcoin educators and we put them through the gamut.
- 51:08And, and we had, I think in a couple of weeks, we had well
- 51:12over 300 people apply to be mentors for Bitcoin mentor.
- 51:17They went through a series of interviews and then the, the
- 51:20final boss was me because they had to teach me how to, how to
- 51:24use something or how, how to use Bitcoin in a wallet or hardware
- 51:27or whatever. And so we ended up with a team
- 51:32of, of we really whittled it down to the best of the best.
- 51:35And now we have this amazing team of educators where if you
- 51:38are either a newcomer trying to learn something and level up, or
- 51:42if you've been around Bitcoin for a while and you, you kind of
- 51:46consider yourself to be a bit of a Bitcoin Luddite where you've,
- 51:49you've learned your one thing, you know how to do your one
- 51:51thing. But now you're beginning to
- 51:52question like, is my setup good enough?
- 51:55Should I level up? Absolutely.
- 51:57Always be learning. And and that's what the the team
- 52:00at Bitcoin Mentor is there to do.
- 52:02That's awesome, man. Yeah, It's very, very cool what
- 52:04you guys are doing. And I feel like it's like a
- 52:05natural continuation of what you've been doing with your
- 52:08one-on-one sessions, right? But people can still book you,
- 52:11right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 52:13So I'm I'm on there. You you can get one on ones with
- 52:17me. I'm I'm more seldom than the
- 52:19other guys. And that was.
- 52:20Kind of that's Ben's very nice way of saying he's the premium.
- 52:23He's he's premium VIP. You could still get Ben, but
- 52:26he's top shelf now. I I, yeah, I, I, I, I maybe am
- 52:32am slightly less less booked because it's it can be a little
- 52:37bit more expensive because the only thing more scarce than
- 52:40Bitcoin is is once time and and thus Bitcoin mentor came to
- 52:45fruition. But honestly, every, every
- 52:47mentor there not only was already an incredible educator,
- 52:51but we have weekly calls to make sure one, everybody's up to
- 52:55snuff. Everybody has their skill set or
- 52:58they're constantly leveling up and making sure that we, we
- 53:01basically back and forth teach each other how to be better
- 53:05educators. And when you get a bunch of
- 53:06educators in a room and we all and we all do a little scrum on,
- 53:09on, on what's up, you level up quick, which is amazing.
- 53:13So where can people start? They, they, they hear this or
- 53:16that? This is interesting.
- 53:17I don't know. I don't have the technical know
- 53:18now. Perhaps I want to set up my
- 53:20passport. Where?
- 53:21Where could they go? Yeah, so you go to a Bitcoin
- 53:24mentor dot IO and what you can do without having to to commit
- 53:29right out the gate is you can book a free 15 minute discovery
- 53:32session. And the way that works is you're
- 53:34going to sit down, you're going to chat with my Co founder Mike,
- 53:37and you're just going to outline like, Hey, this where I'm at,
- 53:40this is where I think I might want to go.
- 53:43And, and he'll basically look at your unique case and say, OK, so
- 53:49you're looking to do this, that and the other thing, Well, I,
- 53:52you know, and from our pool of mentors, he'll say, OK, the
- 53:55person with the best skill set to complement what you're trying
- 53:58to do is this person. Let's set up your initial
- 54:01session or your package of sessions, depending on how much,
- 54:04how much time it's going to take and go from there.
- 54:06So, you know, even if you're curious, it's worth reaching out
- 54:10and just saying, Hey, this is where I'm at.
- 54:11What? What do you think would be a
- 54:13good trajectory for me? Absolutely, 100%.
- 54:16And I also, I, I want to pivot the conversation a little bit to
- 54:19I was up there, I was in Calgary.
- 54:21I love that part of Canada. By the way, Alberta's dope.
- 54:24And you did something, I think you went through something
- 54:30during the Canadian truckers protest.
- 54:32And I think it, it really, and I think we're seeing this in the
- 54:35United States. You've seen Warren Davidson
- 54:37talking about it earlier how they're going after self
- 54:39custody. The thing is, when you have a
- 54:41circular economy and you're not dealing with the traditional
- 54:44financial system, like good luck, bro, right?
- 54:48It's like you can't like how you going to, you're gonna like you
- 54:51shut off the entire Internet, like it's gonna be a little bit
- 54:54more difficult, right? And this is the importance of
- 54:57circular economies. And you did you, you started
- 55:00doing these markets, they're called SAT's markets.
- 55:03And you get different vendors from, you know, people that make
- 55:06tea, people that make jerky, people that made like mustard.
- 55:10And I remember I loaded up like a wallet with like 250 U.S.
- 55:14dollars and I went to each and every single vendor and I bought
- 55:17something. I don't even know if I took
- 55:18everything home, but I wanted to support the circular economy.
- 55:22And I think that is something that's already happening in the
- 55:26developing world where people just don't trust the traditional
- 55:29traditional financial system. But that is something that
- 55:32definitely needs to be more popular in the developed world
- 55:35where the traditional system is convenient enough for people to
- 55:39live on on it. But they're working within a
- 55:43system that is highly political, that can and has been used
- 55:48against them in the past. And I think the Canadian
- 55:51truckers protest was an example of that.
- 55:53Yeah, 100% I'm, I'm, I'm very much on the train now where
- 55:57where one of my number one missions is not only creating my
- 56:01own, kind of selfishly creating my own circular economy at home
- 56:05because I'm one of those crazies that already lives on Bitcoin,
- 56:07but in, in, in creating that learning lessons and
- 56:12blueprinting that out for other places to replicate it.
- 56:15Because you're right, you know, other nations that maybe aren't
- 56:18first world countries, they're kind of leapfrogging us in that
- 56:22circular and that community aspect because they, they
- 56:27already didn't really have access to, to, you know, like
- 56:32banking, things like that. And so it's easier to, to
- 56:35leapfrog and create that, that circular economy.
- 56:38Whereas if you're in a major city and yeah, there's a bunch
- 56:42of bit corners and everything, but everybody's just using Fiat.
- 56:45They've got their credit cards, they've got their whatever.
- 56:47And you may be passionate about Bitcoin, it's tougher to connect
- 56:51and figure out how to navigate that.
- 56:53And that's what we're trying to do in my city of Calgary is we
- 56:57started with the Bitcoiners. We said, listen guys, you
- 57:00already understand this is the better money.
- 57:02Obviously you know that you already earn a paycheck and then
- 57:06you take that paycheck and you you convert some of that to
- 57:09Bitcoin to save for the long term.
- 57:12You all have skills, you all, some of you have businesses and
- 57:15create goods and services for others.
- 57:17Why would you not accept Bitcoin and just like cut out a step
- 57:22here? And so that's, that's what we're
- 57:24doing. The first one that we did was
- 57:25last Christmas. It was super successful in, in I
- 57:30think 3 weeks notice. We got 35 vendors together and
- 57:34just did, did our Christmas market.
- 57:35It was amazing. We did another one in the
- 57:37spring. We did another one right before
- 57:41the Bitcoin Rodeo and we're gearing up for another one this
- 57:44December for another Christmas market where I think we're going
- 57:46to do it twice a year. But the point is you don't have
- 57:50to be at the market to benefit from this because once you once
- 57:53you've been to the market, you establish those relationships
- 57:56and then you continue down that path of supporting your local
- 57:59Bitcoiners. My dad just called me up the
- 58:02other day. He's like, Oh my God, my
- 58:03toilet's broken. What did I do?
- 58:04I called up the Bitcoin plumber. He showed up.
- 58:07He got shit handled literally. And and and and yeah, my dad has
- 58:12a a fancy new working toilet paid for with sats.
- 58:16Shit going, problem fixed. Boom and it's peer-to-peer
- 58:19right. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful
- 58:21yeah, man, I'm I'm I had a great time guys, if you haven't made
- 58:25definitely go to that part of Canada specifically, I would say
- 58:27take advantage of the Bitcoin Rodeo conference and just go up
- 58:32there. It's it's incredible conference.
- 58:34This year we did the roast of BTC sessions.
- 58:37We had a very, very famous comedian, JJP Sears, JP Sears, I
- 58:44got his name right this time. And no, it was absolutely
- 58:48hilarious. So it's it's a great time.
- 58:50Highly recommend the pilgrimage. Highly recommend that
- 58:53conference. It's high signal, great
- 58:54production and a great job. Anyways, we are at the top of
- 58:57the hour. I do want to give opportunity to
- 58:59Opti to have some last words, then Ben and then we'll wrap it
- 59:02up. Well, I really want to ask Ben a
- 59:05question. So it was like a hair in my
- 59:08mouth 'cause we were trying to bring Ben on a while ago, we got
- 59:12requests for Ben to come on. And I don't want you to dock
- 59:15your setups or whatever gets you in trouble here.
- 59:18So you can plead the 5th if you want to.
- 59:20But for people out there, they are very curious of how do you
- 59:24actually live on the Bitcoin standard and how do you connect
- 59:28to the Fiat world? And I'm, I'm sure you have
- 59:31videos on this, but just a quick little TTLDR for the people out
- 59:35there, how do you actually live on the Bitcoin standard?
- 59:38Yeah. So, so there's a a few things in
- 59:41practice that I do. So number one is we're very
- 59:47lucky in Canada that we've got some great companies, some great
- 59:52Bitcoin companies, one of them Co sponsor of of simply Bitcoin
- 59:57and and BTC sessions. By the way,
- 59:59bitcoin.bitcoinwell.com/BTC sessions, great cut.
- 1:00:03No, no, no, hold on hold. On hold on
- 1:00:05kickerboy.com/thesimply. BTC.
- 1:00:07Kick em off the show. But what the main point being in
- 1:00:12in Canada is very easy to pay your bills with, with a service
- 1:00:16like Bitcoin. Well, they, they do an
- 1:00:17incredible job. I can pay lightning and it can
- 1:00:20go and it can pay a bill. It can go to a bank account, It
- 1:00:22can do all of these things. So, so that bridge is a major
- 1:00:25gap for me. Another great service that I use
- 1:00:28regularly. And there's a number of them,
- 1:00:29but I love bit refill. And so for things like gas and
- 1:00:33groceries, things like that, I can just like literally in line
- 1:00:37at the grocery store, I pull up my Lightning wallet, I hit a bit
- 1:00:39refill, I get my myself a grocery card and I pay for it.
- 1:00:43And now they know me. Like they don't know exactly
- 1:00:45what's going on, but they're like, there's the guy that
- 1:00:47stockpiles gift cards. I'm like, yes, absolutely.
- 1:00:51So those, those take care of a lot of it.
- 1:00:53But I recognize I'm using services to make that possible.
- 1:00:57And thus the impetus for the SAT market is, you know, to be truly
- 1:01:02ungovernable, uncensorable, you have to have a community, you
- 1:01:06have to know people and be able to say, hey, you know, I, I, I
- 1:01:10know my, my local rancher, I've shaken his hand and I bought,
- 1:01:14you know, a quarter cow from him.
- 1:01:16And, you know, I things like that where you, you can't
- 1:01:19prevent people from having relationships with each other.
- 1:01:22And that's the true strength. So those, that's kind of the,
- 1:01:24the, the three pronged approach that I have right now.
- 1:01:27And it seems to be working pretty well.
- 1:01:29Love that love that. Anyways, guys, this was a a
- 1:01:32special these last three days special edition simply Bitcoin
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- 1:01:48seat tomorrow with Chris or Brandon Opti.
- 1:01:51I think it's Brandon Brandon and I'll be back for the Monday show
- 1:01:56guys, this was simply Bitcoin Live for September 19, 2024.
- 1:01:59I'm your host Nico. This is our guest for today.
- 1:02:02Of course the legendary BTC sessions and of course my
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