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Hey, everybody, it's Jeff. Wanted to let you know that we recorded
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this podcast episode of Monday, November thirteenth, twenty twenty three. By the
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time you hear this, some things may have changed here or there, but
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we hope you enjoy the show. All right, everybody, you are listening
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to Table Talk here at the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest running
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Philly sports podcast show in the world, that's right over ten and a half
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years strong, and we got a great discussion coming to you here on Table
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Talk. As we do every single week, we are going to be getting
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into some college football prospects. You know, the end of this a college
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football regular season is coming up here as we're heading into Thanksgiving. Heading into
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the holiday season, the bulls are going to be right around the corner.
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So we're going to be really looking at a lot of college football programs,
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some college football prospects for sure, to see who's going to be entering this
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twenty twenty four draft, who's going to be making it to the NFL,
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how they fit with certain teams. It's going to be a fun time for
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sure over these next few months evaluating these college football prospects. We got a
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great discussion coming your way. Let's get ranked to it. And it is
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great to have back on the podcast to get into some college football prospects.
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As we are coming up to the end of the regular season in college football,
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we're seeing a lot of prospects they're going to be making their way to
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the NFL, a lot of prospects that want to be professional football players and
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joining us this week. You're on Table Talk again. Love having him on
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the show at Rise and Draft. On the Twitter, yes I'm not calling
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it x yet, but on the Twitter at Rise and Draft you can also
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catch him and all his great content Breakdown dot Com and also our PM data
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as well, where they're breaking down some college prospects. We've got the one
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and only Ryan Roberts. How you doing, Buddy, I'm doing great.
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Jeh, I'm doing great. Man. I hope everything's good in your world.
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And yeah, you know, just howby to get back into the grind.
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Man. We're winding down the college football season. NFL is already halfway
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done. It's it's flying by, man. But I'm excited obviously going down
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the stretch here, absolutely because we're having the opportunity here Ryan to really see
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a lot of these developmental prospects kind of coming into their own. We're seeing
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what certain programs, certain football programs are doing throughout the country and how there
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is a either rising or falling themselves. And I wanted to talk to you
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specifically about one particular college football program, and that is the Penn State football
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program, because as a Penn State alum, I have been absolutely just pissed
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off at how this football program can never seem to get over the hump when
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it comes to playing Ohio State, when it comes to playing Michigan. It
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is this nonsense and garbage every freaking year. And now they fire their offensive
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coordinator, Mike You're You're your itch, And I'm wondering, like, what
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are your thoughts on what we continue to see year after year with this Penn
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State football program not being able to come through in big games with conference rivals
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like Ohio State and Michigan. As an alum, it really ticks me off.
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Please be open, Please be honest. You could probably see the Penn
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State you know, Garb that I have here in my little home studio,
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but I just need you to be honest about what this program is, where
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they're going in the future. Or where they're not going in the future.
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What are you thinking here, Ryan H Jeff, It's so tough man,
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because I mean this, this conversation in preseason always happens, right, What
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are the most talented rosters in all of college football? And I made a
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claim in the preseason and I believe this still, like this is truly my
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belief is that I think Penn State had the best roster in twenty twenty three
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in the entire Big Ten, and iiO State that obviously includes Michigan. I
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mean, Penn State has future NFL players everywhere, like everywhere. I mean,
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you have a kid that's probably gonna go Top five to ten at left
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tack, Colonolufshanu. You have Kaylin King, a corner who's going to go
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in the first round this year most likely. You have Adult Carter, who's
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the next big thing at inside linebacker. You have Chop Robinson and Disa Isaac
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at defensive ends, who are both very good football players and will be drafted
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pretty highly as well. You have two NFL tight ends on the roster with
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Theo Johnston and Tyler Warren. Running backs, Nick Singleton's probably going to be
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a top fifty pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft when he's there and
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K Tron Allen his backup is pretty dark goo football player himself. You know
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what I mean. It's a embarrassment of riches from a talent level perspective.
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And we went into the same conversation this offseason that we've been doing the last
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few years. It's like, is this Penn State does it? Is this
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the year they get over the hump? Is this year they get take the
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national championship? That's the conversation that was happening. And my stance was the
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same then as it is now on as a roster perspective. From a talent
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perspective, they can pee for a national championship in the pretty near future.
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But I in full transparency, James Franklin great recruiter, good spokesman for a
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program, really well spoken for the most part, really good person as well.
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I've heard nothing but grave reviews about him as far as the players love
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him. And there's a reason he recruits so well, right because the players
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really I think, mesh with him. But I don't think he's a very
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good in game coach. I think that there are limitations to him from a
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decision making perspective. From a preparation perspective, we've now seen it. Penn
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State is always going to beat the teams that they are just flat out better
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than. Yeah, but go into those big games of against Ohio State where
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you need to out coach Ohio State because I say, also has really good
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football players. Right, we're seeing that separation does not happen, right,
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and coaching and that in those games is the separator for a really good football
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team versus really good football team or these very talented football teams, I should
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say, And I think that he is. He's going to hold that team
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back from a on field perspective consistently. Yeah. I just think it's a
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pretty good off its scordinator. I know they look like poop this past weekend,
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right, like they did not look good at all against Michigan. But
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he's done some good things at Penn State. And I'll be like, again,
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I put this on Twitter. I think that he was the scapegoat for
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James Franklin. I think that's like, get all the attention off of him
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in the big games. It's Mike your sure, but sure, let's go
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with that, right. I just think that we have seen as good as
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it's probably going to get under James Franklin. I just don't anticipate them being
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a true national title contender. But I also am not sure that Penn State
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wants or feels like they need to make a change, right Like they're happy
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with being a very consistently good football team. But are you ready to say,
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but hey, we're not going to be an elite level football team in
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this current era of Penn State football. So if James Franklin is ever out
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of the door anytime soon over the next couple of years, the next head
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coach is going to come into this roster, he's gonna be like, dang
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man, I got some dudes to work with, so absolutely NFL players everywhere.
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And I know it sounds mean, like I don't mean it is the
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right word. I know it doesn't sound fair because again I said, James
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Franklin is a great recruiter, he's a good person, he's a good you
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know, a good symbol. But I don't think he's a great football coach.
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Yeah, I don't. I don't think great football coach. And I
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think he's going to hold that program back a little bit, at least from
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the on field in the biggest games perspective. That's I just think that that's
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gonna happen. It's great analysis, folks. I mean we heard it here
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from Ryan. We have heard time and time again, not just on this
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podcast. You hear it on you know, various radio stations throughout Pennsylvania.
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You hear it or read it, I should say, in various articles.
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It all comes down to James Franklin. Great analysis there from you for sure
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and Ryan. But you know, let's move on here and get getting into
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some college football prospects. So let's start off with the quarterback position here,
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because there's definitely gonna be some NFL teams next season, but we're definitely gonna
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be looking for a new quarterback or a quarterback that'll hopefully be their future,
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their franchise quarterback. You know, I think the Jets are certainly in that
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mix based on what happens with Aaron Rodgers and his career. Of course,
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the Saints and possibly Seattle maybe looking for their next quarterback of the future.
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We know Caleb Williams and Drake May you know, they're slated at this particular
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point to be number one, number two possibly taken in this upcoming draft in
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twenty twenty four. But there are other quarterbacks you know that could be a
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good fit for certain teams that are looking for that quarterback of the future.
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So what are your thoughts there? You know, who do you like coming
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out of the college ranks and could really make an impact in the future for
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some NFL teams. I think that this year from an NFL draft perspective,
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from an evaluator perspective, the quarterback rankings from three to ten, let's say,
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are going to separate good evaluators from bad evaluators, Because I think it's
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it's a foregone conclusion whether you have Drake may as one or Caleb Williams's one.
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I saw have Caleb Willams at one, because I still still think the
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upside is just tremendous. They are the top two quarterbacks in this class.
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So I think that that's pretty much consensus. Yeah, I know there's taking
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things out there, but like we look past those things, right, Like,
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those are the two top quarterbacks in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.
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After that, there's a long list of potential right like bow Knicks from Oregon,
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Michael Pennix Junior from Washington. You have JJ McCarthy from Michigan. You
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have Camera Ward even from Washington States. You have Jayden Daniels from LSUS having
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a tremendous season so far, and all of a sudden, you know quarterback
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from from a quarterback from Georgia whose name's escaping me for some reason because I
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just did an ev out on him and I had his name, Carson Beck.
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I don't know how I almost becks name after the game he just had
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this past week against Old Miss was tremendous. So there is a long list
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of potential right who are those guys? But there's there's no absolute order here.
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No one knows who quarterback three is right now. I mean we can
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make guesses right for me and just throwing a couple of guys out the window
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as far as like separating, I'm not a JJ McCarthy guy out of Michigan.
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I'm not. I know that people are gonna say, oh, well,
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you know you didn't need to throw the football in the second half to
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beat Penn State and blah blah blah blah blah, that's Penn State's fault.
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And I'm just like, dude, in the biggest game in your season,
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so far you trusted your quarterback to throw the ball eight times and zero in
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the second half, people wouldn't say that that's not an indicator or whatever.
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It is an indicator that tells me that not trust there. Right, So
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I'm throwing him out the wind to already have I've not been a believer JJ
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McCarthy at least now. Michael PANICKX Junior really nice talent as far as arm
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strength and athletics is a perspective out of Washington. He really paints the outside
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like him throwing back shoulders and outside the numbers. It's really good inside not
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as good middle of the field stuff needs a lot of attention, and he
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has a long list of medicals I think are going to really bop him down
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the board a little bit. The two guys I'm most interested in, after
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Williams and Drake may One is Carson Beck that I just mentioned, who's kind
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of the new guy on the board. Right. He's a first year starter
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at Georgia. Obviously after Stetson Bennett went back to back championships. He early
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in the season was a game manager, right, don't mess it up.
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Be that guy. The last few weeks when Brock Bowers was out specifically,
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even though Rock came back this past weekend, he really got a lot more
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put on his plate as far as being the guy that's gonna lead the offense,
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not just being a part of the offense. He is a really talented
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thrower. He has good pocket awareness, good anticipation. There's a lot to
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like there. So he's a guy that I have my eyes on as far
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as moving up in this quarterback class potentially, even if even if he chooses
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to Claire, if he doesn't, I mean, then we'll talk about him
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in twenty twenty five obviously. And the other guy's Jane Daniels from LSU before
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the season. Was not a Jane Daniels guy I was. I thought he
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was a little gimmicky. I hate his I still hate his frame. I
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mean that kid is two hundred and four pounds soaking wet in the NFL.
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Like it's a little tough, right like that. It's a little bit of
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a tough frame, yep. And he needs to learn how to he needs
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to learn how to save his body a little bit right, get down,
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don't take the big hits unnecessarily. But kid always had a really good arm,
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even going down to Arizona State. He's seeing the game incredibly well.
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I've been talking to people over at LSU and he's in there Monday through Friday,
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sometimes even on the weekends five thirty in the morning, watching film like.
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He has good traits and characteristics there, and he's the dynamic athlete,
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right, So you need to I think you need to early on be a
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little bit creative how you was Jayden Daniels Maybe a little bit of Lamar Jackson
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quarterback run game involved and moving the pocket a little bit. But he's been
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a big riser and I think if I had a hot take right now,
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I think that Jade Daniels might be the third quarterback off the board in wildly
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twenty four. And I wouldn't be shocked, man, because he's gonna run
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well, he's gonna interview really well. He's got a lot of talent.
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If he can show up at the Senior Bowl or the Combine or whatever he
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choose to do pre draft wise, at like two ten, two fifteen,
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I think a team's gonna look at him and say like, yeah, we
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can work with that guy. So that's my hot take, I guess.
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I also like Bo Nicks a little bit from Oregon. He used to be
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a meme and kind of you made fun of him a lot when he was
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at Auburn. Good reason, but quite Jeff, I don't know how this
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happened, but bo Nicks became a joke from He turned from a joke at
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Auburn into one of the safer quarterback prospects in two years. Don't know how
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happens, but it happens like he just doesn't make a lot of mistakes and
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he's still a talented kid. So Jade and Daniels Carson Becks is my risers
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in this class, and I think that bo Nicks is a very safe prospect
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as a top five quarterback in twenty twenty four. Very good. I love
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where you're going, especially with the hot takes there for sure, and you
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know, as we're moving along here, I really want to get into some
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you know, offensive line talent, like in the trenches, because there's a
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ton of NFL teams that need to look at drafting in the trenches, especially
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in the offensive line. You know, we've seen that there are teams in
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the NFL that really do it right, you know, one being you know,
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the Philadelphia Eagles. You know, who we follow here at the PSD
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podcast show. You know, we know that Jordan Morgan out of Arizona is
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likely going to be probably a first round prospect. Joe alt out of Notre
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Dame, who you follow closely, is probably going to be a first round
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talent. Teams like the Giants, the Patriots, they are desperately going to
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need to draft some offensive lineman I think in twenty twenty four who could be
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a talent on that O line for years to come. So I'm wondering,
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like, which offensive lineman do you really like, you know, coming out
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of this prospect class and in of the twenty twenty four draft, and why,
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well, it's a great year to need offensive lineman. And to your
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point, there's a lot of bad offensive lines in the NFL, right,
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yeah, so there is a massive need there. I mean, as a
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as a guy that covers the Philadelphia Eagles, right, you should feel very
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fortunate because that offensive line is fantastic. You know, even when you have
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a good guard, you know, go down, you're still able to maintain
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and still be a really good offensive team. So but most teams are not
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fortunate in that. And you mentioned a couple of the guys that I think
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are really stellar players in this class. I mean we're talking about Penn State
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to begin. Olu Fashanu and Joe All I think are and Joe of from
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the name, are going to kind of they're going to duke it out to
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be the first offensive lineman off the board. I think it's really what you
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prefer. I mean, Joe Joe Wall is just six eight three twenty Father
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John All is in the Kansasye Chiefs Ring of Honor as a former offensive lineman.
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Joe Walt was a former high school tight end that has just gained a
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ton of weights. So he's going to check a lot of boxes from the
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height, length, speed aspect of everything. You know, he's gonna check
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every box from a talent perspective. And he's got the NFL blood lines,
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which is going to help him a time. Yeah. Oldufashano's freaking nature.
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Man. I remember talking to someone even before he was a full time star,
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before last year, and they were telling me that he at three hundred
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and whatever pounds he was at that point, he has a six pack,
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and I'm just like, oh, okay, well that's that makes me feel
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terrible about myself. Thank you so much for doing this. But so those
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guys are the freak shows. Man. He reminds me a lot of Dubrickashaw
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Ferguson, who was a fantastic New York Jets offensive lineman. More of a
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pass blocker than he is a run blocker. He still struggles a little bit
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in the run game, but as a pass blocker, the core strength and
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the foot quickness he has is fantastic. So I think that's a one two
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combination. I think after that there is a really nice second tier of offensive
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lineman. I thought a Marius Men's from Georgia was gonna be a guy that
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was going to be a big in this class. He got injured to start
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the year, so he's just now coming back from an injury, so I
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don't know if he's necessarily going to declare for twenty twenty four. But that
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kid another one, Jeff, It's like six seven, three point thirty.
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No body fat on him. It's just like, we're incredible guys, man,
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They're like made on different planets. They're aliens. Like I'm looking at
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Olda Forshan who looking at Marius Smims, I'm looking at Joel. I'm just
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like This is not what offensive line and used to look like. I don't
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understand where I came from, but he's a guy, a guy that I
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think is gonna get drafted high. It's gonna be if he would enters twenty
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twenty four, though it's gonna be more about betting on traits because he just
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hasn't played a ton this year obviously as a juniors, which is why I
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kind of he probably will go back to school, but that'll be a conversation
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we'll have in a couple of months. Obviously, the biggest rise of in
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the class the guy that I absolutely love Talise fu Waga, who I've been
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mentioning a lot on Twitter of the last few weeks. Offensive tackle, right
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tackle out of Oregon State, six' six, three hundred and thirty pounds.
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This kid is an absolute behemoth. I mean he looks a little bit
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body type to look what Pennay Soul was coming out of Oregon. A little
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bit of a different football player, but similar body types. This kid moves
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incredibly well. You get a false assumption about him. You see him sixty
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six, three thirty, You're like, that dude is just gonna maul people
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in the run. Game, which he does. But then the first player
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I remember popping on in twenty twenty two, they were running some time at
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outside zone or some sweep and he was moving laterally at three hundred and thirty
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pounds as well as a lot of tight ends. Do I mean like he
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was just moving incredibly well. So he's got the length, he's got the
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size, and he's got the really good foot quickness, and he's improved his
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hand usage tremendously from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three. So big rise
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from the class, A guy that I think could be a potential top twenty
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pick when all's said and done. To lease Fuaga out of Oregon State,
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I think has been a big riser this year. All right, I like
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it for sure, And I wanted to get your take Ryan on how we
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should be really looking at running back prospects kind of from here on out,
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because I mean, as we know, the position has changed so much over
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the years, and running backs aren't as quote important as they once used to
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be. And again I want to get your thoughts on where the running back
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position has been trending due to the changing nature of what is required of them
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now in the NFL, and if there are certain guys that may you know,
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may maybe either take us back in time with regard to their skill set,
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or is this just something we're gonna continue seeing in the future, that
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the fact that running backs are quote just not as important. And you're there
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kind of a dime a dozen here, what are your thoughts. I think
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there's a potential that the game can be cyclical, right is in like it
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was a big heavy run scheme, now it's a bit passing league. Could
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it go back to the run at some point as teams just kind of you
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know, jockey back and forth and try to you know, evolve. Yeah,
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unquote possible. I mean like that could definitely happen. I mean I
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feel like it's kind of like how every team was a four to three team
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right defensively, and then they changed to a three to four in like the
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nineties to two thousands, and now everybody's back to a four to three base
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with a four to two five adjustment. Like if I do think there's a
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cyclical nature to the game of football, but for the time being, over
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the foreseeable future, you know, not as far ahead. I think that
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the running back position is going to continue to be devalued, Yeah, but
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devalued from a second contract perspective, right breaking the bank on a second deal.
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I still believe that a lot of NFL teams are more than okay with
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drafting a running back pretty early, right first round, even you get the
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fifth year option, you have five years of control, not even counting you
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know, if you franchise, tag a guy and do all that type of
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stuff and even top fifty to up sixty four. Like, I still think
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that running backs are valued as far as drafting them because I still think that
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you understand that they are a valuable member of your offense outside of a center
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and a quarterback. They touch the football more than any other offensive player on
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the field, so it's still valuable. I think just the question now in
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understandable one is economics. From a business perspective, Paying a position that has
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a shorter shelf life than every other one on your roster is probably not great
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business, right, And I think that's why we're seeing when running backs get
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the second contracts, teams not as willing to now break the bank and give
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a guy massive money outside of like the Christian mccaffreyes of the world, for
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instance, right, So I think for me short term vision of the future,
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Jeff, I think that teams are still gonna be okay with drafting running
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backs and drafting relatively early when there are studs in the class. But in
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the second contract, I think there's still gonna be a lot of hesitancy because
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we just have seen the running back position not have the long shelf life.
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And if you want a perfect vision of that, the twenty twenty four NFL
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draft running back group is perfect because it is a not great class at the
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top. It's a complementary type of class. You know, you have Trey
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Benson from Florida State, you Raheem Rocket Sanders from Arkansas, you have Blake
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korhum up there at Michigan. Like, they're all good running backs, but
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none of them are guys that I would say are top twenty five players in
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the twenty twenty four NFL drafts. So they're gonna be drafted more the top
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fifty range, you know, maybe late first second round type of conversation.
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So I think that's where we're going, is that the devaluation is not necessarily
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from a draft perspective. It's more from a business perspective, right, like
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the second. That's where you break the bank, and I just don't think
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you want to break it with a running back too often. Absolutely, we're
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definitely seeing changes and continual changes with regard to the NFL from a unit perspective.
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Running back certainly is that. So let's talk about the other side of
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the ball. Let's talk about defense, and specifically with regard to defensive edge
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rushers we may see coming out of this draft, or I should say,
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going into the draft. You know Dallas Turner, he's one guy, Jared.
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Do you say his last name versay versus versay verse? Okay, yeah,
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I screw up names constantly on this podcast. So but in terms of
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defensive edge rushers, you know now more than ever you know, and again
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I'll go back to certain NFL teams. You can see how important they are.
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Baltimore Ravens, Cleveland Browns. You know how they positioned themselves defensively.
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The edge rushers and pass rushing is so incredibly critical of course in today's NFL.
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So I'm wondering which edge defenders and pass rushers have you really been keeping
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your eyes on, Ryan in this college football season, who may really be
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productive right out of the Gate, you know after the twenty twenty four draft,
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Well you just mentioned two of them. I mean, Jared Vers was
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a big surprise to not enter the twenty twenty three NFL Draft and obviously opts
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to return to Florida State for another year. And the box score hasn't been
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great this year, but as far as being as productive as he was last
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year, but if you watch the film, he's still been incredibly disruptive.
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I mean, this kid was a former Albany player, played up there.
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It was weird, man. He was a zero star recruits, went to
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Albany, barely played defense in high school, and then all of a sudden,
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he is now the ACC preseason Defensive Player of the Year. Like he's
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made a massive rise incredibly well as well. Yeah, physical dude, like
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six two hundred and fifty plus pounds, He is a freak show from an
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explosiveness perspective. Dallas Turner is the complete opposite as far as he's a pure
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stand up rusher at two hundred and forty five pounds. With that kid,
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he's about as gifted of an athlete as you'll ever see from the edge position.
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Honestly, he's a little bit comparable athletically to who the Eagles draft last
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year, Nolan Smith in the first round, just from a athleticism movement perspective,
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like I wouldn't be shocked if he runs four to four flat at two
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hundred and forty five pounds, Like he's that type of freaky athlete, and
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he's taking a massive step forward. I didn't love his nuance and his technique
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in the twenty twenty two season. Taking a big step forward from a technical
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perspective, so he's really taking a nice step. Braylan Trice from Washington's been
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a guy that I've loved for some time now. He's what I think people
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wanted Derek Barnett to be coming out of Tennessee a little bit. You know,
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Derek Barnett did not quite find his role in the NFL, and I
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know he's still a backup in the NFL, and there's nothing wrong with that,
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but as the fourteenth overall pick, they could safe to say that he's
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underachieved quite a bit in the NFL. But I think that the great parts
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of what you thought Derek Burnett could be is what Briylan tries to springs the
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table. He's sixty three two hundred and seventy pounds, thickly built frame,
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really strong hands, really good pass rush plan run defender. I just he
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leads college footballs in at college football in quarterback hurries and pressures this year,
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even though he's again this, if you look at just at the box score,
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it's not going to jump off at you, But then you watch the
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game, you're just like this dude's harassing quarterbacks constantly, and pressures matter so
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much in the NFL. So he's a big one, the biggest question mark,
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and the I think the most volatile prospect maybe in the twenty twenty four
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NFL Draft is going to end up being Leatu Latu, who is a defensive
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end out of UCLA. He was up at the University of Washington, former
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four star recruit, high recruit, he had to medically retire because of a
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broken neck, and then two years later he just shows up randomly at UCLA
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and now he's the leading socker and tackle for lost guy in college football.
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Six' four sixty five, two hundred and sixty five pounds. This kid
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is a high first round talents as a football player, a lot very similar
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to Jalen Phillips that came out of Miami a couple of years ago at the
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Miami Dolphins drift in the first round. Yeah, but the question mark is
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what are that medicals going to look like? Man, a guy that literally
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had to medically retire a couple of years ago. I mean, what is
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the net going to look like? What are the medicals going to come back?
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How comfortable our team's taking a kid that has that medical background in the
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first round. He could either be a top fifteen pick or it could be
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a third round pick because the medicals are an absolute disaster, Like, we
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have no idea exactly which one we're gonna get yet. But talent wise,
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he's up there with the verses with the Dallas Turners, with the Braidlan Trices
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of the world as far as a talent perspective. Great discussion here, Absolutely
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love it again. Folks are talking to Ryan Roberts from Irishbreakdown dot com RPM
26:56
data as well. Find him on Twitter at Rise and Draft is a great,
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great follow when it comes to college football prospects, college football in general.
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And as we're closing things up here, I wanted to really talk about,
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you know, the cornerback position in the NFL and prospects that we're looking
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at right now. You know already on the board. You know who we're
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thinking about, because, as we know, cornerbacks such a difficult position to
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really come out strong in terms of the NFL and productivity their first year.
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I mean, Devin Witherspoon, he's been having a pretty good rookie season so
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far in the NFL with the Seattle Seahawks. But you know, Christian Gonzales
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with the Patriots, he's now on ir having some injury issues there, not
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necessarily the greatest looking cornerback is in his first season, and some other rookie
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cornerbacks too. You know, they're not having the best starts in the NFL.
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Per what I just said, you know, it's a difficult position to
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transition to in the pros. How do you see this incoming twenty twenty four
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cornerback class and are there any standouts in your ryan that we should be keeping
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our eyes on as the college football regular season concludes here shortly. I think
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it's a really good class in twenty twenty four as far as cornerbacks. I
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mean, you are correct in the fact that you are asked to do so
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much as a cornerback in the NFL that you I mean, because you could
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hide a guy on an island in college and not ask him to ever tackle
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or play in the screen game, and that's okay, it doesn't matter.
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Right in the NFL, you're gonna find that kid quickly, and obviously you're
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going against some of the best athletes in the world that wide receiver each and
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every play. And honestly, the biggest thing that with the cornerback evaluation is
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trying to get to know the cornerbacks a lot, because it is a position
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where you're gonna give up some plays, you're gonna give up some touchdowns from
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time to time. You have to have a short memory, you really do,
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and the best ones have that. You know. Everybody acts like Deon
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Sanders never gave up a completion in his life. But that's just not true,
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right, I Mean, he gave up catches, he gave up touchdowns.
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It's just what did he do the next play? Next play is the
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best play? And I think this cornerback class in twenty twenty four, there's
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a lot of side in this class. Kole Aid McKinstry out of Alabama's just
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your he's your prototype kid, six' one pretty long arms, athletic.
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The kid can run for days. Technical work that needs to get done,
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but he is a really good athlete and he has the look. My favorite
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corner in the class is a Penn State guy, Kayln King. I think
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that he had a little bit of a rough game against Marvin Harrison junior,
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but otherwise the last two years of film have been fantastic. Man. I
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mean that kid is a scrappy, slightly undersized corner that I think could play
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inside and out. Kind of has a Jyi Alexander feel to his game for
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me, I mean just a really tenacious, explosive cornerback. Good comp yeah
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yeah. Cooper Degene out of Iowa is kind of a white corner which is
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kind of funny, but six two hundred and five pounds physical dude like can
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just play corner, could play safety, could play He has started at nickel
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at Iowa, has been a really good player there, so he's gonna be
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a little bit more of a scheme specific football player, but a really really
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good football player over over overall. And my one other guy that I think
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is gonna be the biggest riser in the cornerback class and has already seen the
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rise because I think guys like Dame Brugler and Kimmel Kiper and those guys are
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starting to rank them this high. But Nate Wiggins out of Clemson is a
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little bit of a lighter corner at six foot two, one hundred and eighty
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pounds. But that kid's movement skills are outrageous. Man, Like, he
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can turn and run with the best of them. He's got legit four to
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three something speed. But then you see him change direction at six foot two,
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which is kind of different, like you don't typically see that. But
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so he's got the movement skills to be a fantastic player. So I think,
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again, if you need a really good corner in the NFL right now,
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I think the twenty twenty four draft is going to give you a great
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one, you know, pretty early on your in your career. So I
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don't think there's necessarily a Devin Witherspoon in this class, a guy that's gonna
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go top five in the draft. But there are several first round corners in
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this class, probably even more than there were last year. I think it's
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a deeper class than twenty twenty three. It's gonna be fun to continue watching
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these prospects for sure. And again, folks catch Ryan on the Twitter at
30:59
rise in Draft. He is a great great follow Irish Breakdown dot com PRM
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data as well. Ryan Buddy, thanks so much for jumping on our table
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talk interview show this week. Man. I'd love to talk to you more
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about more prospects in the future as we get, you know, closer to
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the combine, you know, maybe Bowl season. Let's do it, man,
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let's let's get together again and talk. It was fun, absolutely,
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Jeff, anytime, brother, I appreciate you. It's that time of year
31:23
to really start hunkering down if you're a college football fan an NFL fan,
31:26
to really start understanding who these prospects are, what teams may be looking at
31:32
certain prospects to just bolster their roster for the coming years and in the future.
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It's gonna be a really great exercise over these next few months here as
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we really learn about a lot more of these prospects. I mean, Ryan
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just gave me a lot of great information with certain players that I wasn't,
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you know, one hundred percent aware of in terms of whether it's athleticism and
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just how they're moving on the field. So it's gonna be really fun to
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watch, watch film on some of these prospects, learn more about them.
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Like I said, in the future, just diving into scouting reports. It's
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gonna be fun. So I'm gonna do it for us here on table Talk
32:08
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32:12
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And that's gonna do it for us, folks. Take care, we'll
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catch you next time.