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"Trump-Care?" (Friday November 21 2025, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Very pleased to welcome a man who has been an
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  Speaker 1: incredible champion for so many of these values that we
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  Speaker 1: all share, and we've shared it for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting today on the Talk media Network by Joe Thomas,
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  Speaker 2: the second most famous Thomas and Charlotte Smith Jewort.
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  Speaker 3: Said, steal metem. You have a day, please for work
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  Speaker 3: when the sun comes up, drops a pet to school.
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  Speaker 3: Joe has everything, agenda, all the treasure set needs no
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  Speaker 3: one that Joe's as.
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  Speaker 4: Smile, he only as.
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  Speaker 5: Joe here hold these truths.
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  Speaker 6: I want to be Joe.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you for allowing me to be of service to you.
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  Speaker 5: Four three four eight eight two four two one seven.
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  Speaker 5: That is the phone number. Text message is well most
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  Speaker 5: popular way to interact with the program. I get it.
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  Speaker 5: I know how crazy mornings are. You're getting off, you've
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  Speaker 5: got people to get to know, or you're wrapping up
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  Speaker 5: the day and it's like I got to get this
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  Speaker 5: done before the bell rings, and it's just a cacophony
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  Speaker 5: of time management. So I get why it's easier just
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  Speaker 5: to shout something at voice to text and hit send.
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  Speaker 5: So we will translate your text messages there to us
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  Speaker 5: as well as we go on Bob McClure joining us
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  Speaker 5: again from the James Madison Institute in Florida. Bob Good
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  Speaker 5: hanging on the line with us as well. Bob McClure
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  Speaker 5: on with us. Last question for you, Bob, it's the
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  Speaker 5: mania that has gripped the end of twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 5: and is spilling into twenty twenty six. Virginia's suffering it.
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  Speaker 5: They're even going to try to pervert the constitutional amendment
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  Speaker 5: process in virgin and you know, talk about a nuclear
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  Speaker 5: option here. But Florida has also been caught up in
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  Speaker 5: the redistricting discussion. What is going on in Florida with
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  Speaker 5: attempts to redraw a districts mid mid decade.
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  Speaker 7: I think you're gonna see we don't we're not bound
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  Speaker 7: by the constitutional aspect in this area that Virginia or
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  Speaker 7: in California and some of the other states have been.
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  Speaker 5: So we're going to.
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  Speaker 7: Move more into the Texas model where we're looking to
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  Speaker 7: redistrict and I think you're going to see it happen
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  Speaker 7: probably in early twenty twenty six. Our legislature meets in January.
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  Speaker 7: It's an election year, so I think you're going to
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  Speaker 7: see that happen and you're you know, the Republicans could
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  Speaker 7: pick up one or two extra seats. It's been redistrict
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  Speaker 7: pretty pretty strongly already. Governor Santus has been very candid
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  Speaker 7: and strong on this, so I think, but I think
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  Speaker 7: you're going to see them go back to the well
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  Speaker 7: one or two more times or one more time and
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  Speaker 7: see if they can see what happens if they can
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  Speaker 7: get one or two more seats.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate you catching us up. Bob McClure is
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  Speaker 5: the president and CEO of the James Madison Institute, a
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  Speaker 5: name that we love here in Virginia. It is the
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  Speaker 5: it is their version of the Virginia Institute for Public
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  Speaker 5: Policy down there, and I appreciate your time with us.
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  Speaker 5: Where can people find you online to follow you and
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  Speaker 5: see what's going on down in the Sunshine State.
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  Speaker 7: A lot of folks can. Everybody can go to Jamesmadison
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  Speaker 7: dot org and find out everything we've done on election
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  Speaker 7: reform and a whole host of different issues. Jamesmadison dot org.
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  Speaker 7: They can follow us on Twitter at James Madison I
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  Speaker 7: N S T Institute, and they can follow me at
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  Speaker 7: doctor Bob McClure on Twitter as what well but that's
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  Speaker 7: the work. Even though we are the James Madison Institute
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  Speaker 7: and we're based in Florida, we focus on the same
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  Speaker 7: issues that the Great Policy you, your Great Policy organization does,
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  Speaker 7: pre markets, limited government, and personal responsibility.
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  Speaker 5: Amen to that, and if we can get back to that,
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  Speaker 5: we can get back to anywhere. Bob. You have a
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  Speaker 5: wonderful weekend and happy Thanksgiving to you. Thank you, same
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  Speaker 5: to you.
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  Speaker 7: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 5: Three four eight eight two four two one seven. Of course,
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  Speaker 5: you know we've got to tell you what's going on
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  Speaker 2: As the first Thing Today by Joe Thomas on the
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  Speaker 5: Former Chait They House, Freedom concas Now podcaster Bob good
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  Speaker 5: a host of the Good for America podcast, sitting down
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  Speaker 5: with us a little bit and look into the tea
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  Speaker 5: leaves that before they even go into the boiling water. Bob,
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  Speaker 5: do you think that you were going to see, as
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  Speaker 5: you were mentioning, you know, a real discussion over fixing
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  Speaker 5: Obamacare or is it just going to be come up
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  Speaker 5: with some Republican styled.
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  Speaker 17: You're an extension of Bombacare subsidies is probably likely to happen.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, why do you Why do you think
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  Speaker 5: that I know that Rick Scott has a proposal just
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  Speaker 5: came out yesterday, So like the Affordable Care Act, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you have to pass it before you can find out
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  Speaker 5: what's in it. I guess, Bob, But why would we
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  Speaker 5: still be struggling with this when we passed thirteen different
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  Speaker 5: versions of repeal and replace, we've learned other things or
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  Speaker 5: is it really what? Don't mean to bring her back up,
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  Speaker 5: But it sounds like Marjorie Taylor Green is afraid of
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  Speaker 5: the people who are just like my healthcare costs to do.
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  Speaker 5: I don't give it damn about the Constitution and all
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  Speaker 5: this tea party stuff anymore. Just make my healthcare costs
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  Speaker 5: go down. And have we found ourselves in a position
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  Speaker 5: where the Conservatives have to come up with a way
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  Speaker 5: to do Obamacare light, As always seems to be the case.
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  Speaker 5: We always rail against something and say, well, okay, well
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  Speaker 5: we'll do something just slightly less bad, like still taking
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  Speaker 5: the subsidy money but then sending it to the citizens,
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  Speaker 5: which you know sounds like a better deal, but it's
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  Speaker 5: still subsidizing the healthcare insurance industry.
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  Speaker 17: I think the election results of two weeks ago will
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  Speaker 17: strike even greater fear and Republicans they looked at the midterms.
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  Speaker 17: I think they'll be afraid of reducing or eliminating subsidies
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  Speaker 17: for people and their insurance rates going up in a
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  Speaker 17: short term. And I think that there's enough Republicans who
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  Speaker 17: believe in big government and government as the nanty provider,
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  Speaker 17: that they'll put pressure on the Speaker and on the
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  Speaker 17: Senate leader. And I think President Trump will also end
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  Speaker 17: up calling for a deal because they're fearful about the
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  Speaker 17: midterms instead of taking this opportunity, to your point, to
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  Speaker 17: actually do something better for the American people and to
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  Speaker 17: get government out of the healthcare business and eliminate subsidies
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  Speaker 17: and welfare in healthcare and health insurance.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Carl Rove pend a piece yesterday, was saying
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  Speaker 5: that President Trump has smartly moderated, and you know, and
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  Speaker 5: everyone's out there saying that, oh look, President Trump is
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  Speaker 5: is becoming just like you know, all the other Republicans
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  Speaker 5: in history. He's corrected his course, was what Carl Rove
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  Speaker 5: wrote about the president, especially on the Epstein files, which
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  Speaker 5: of all the people in all of Christendom, I'm pretty
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  Speaker 5: sure you're not in the files, nor am I. But
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  Speaker 5: I don't know about anyone else named Joe Thomas. But
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  Speaker 5: but you know, it has President Trump. From where you're sitting,
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  Speaker 5: flip flopped is one of those Mitt Romney era words.
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  Speaker 5: But moderated when it comes to Epstein and and the tariffs.
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  Speaker 5: Even though you know the tariff cut was really part
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  Speaker 5: of a deal to open up our markets. Is President
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  Speaker 5: Trump moderating heading into his second year? From where you sit.
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  Speaker 17: Well, I think President Trump is clearly not idea log
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  Speaker 17: He's not a true conservative at heart. He's a gut
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  Speaker 17: instinct guy, shoot from the hip kind of a guy.
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  Speaker 17: He's a big idea guy he likes and so you know,
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  Speaker 17: it is hard to pin him down or to buttonhole him.
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  Speaker 17: If you will take the tariffs, he said, the tariffs,
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  Speaker 17: the purpose was we're gonna hey, we're going to implement
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  Speaker 17: these tears.
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  Speaker 5: That's how we're going to.
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  Speaker 17: Address the fiscal crisis and address the deaths of the debt.
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  Speaker 17: But then he wants to turn around and give two
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  Speaker 17: thousand dollars stimulus checks to do what we did during
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  Speaker 17: COVID that's exploded the debt, which is wealth redistribution. Take
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  Speaker 17: it from those paying for the tariffs and give it
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  Speaker 17: to those that we want to and that would absorb
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  Speaker 17: almost all the revenue of the tariffs. And just if
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  Speaker 17: you give a hundred million checks out for two thousand
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  Speaker 17: dollars a prop that's two hundred billion dollars on an
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  Speaker 17: annual basis. So you've got, you've got some inconsistencies that
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  Speaker 17: he obviously changes a lot on the tariffs, and so
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  Speaker 17: he's a little bit tough to pin down from an
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  Speaker 17: ideological standpoint. He's not a true consistent conservative. That is
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  Speaker 17: I think been demonstrated well.
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  Speaker 5: And I guess that becomes the question is it conservatism
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  Speaker 5: or populism? And I guess that'll be That'll be the
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  Speaker 5: message of the midterms, I think is which will win
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  Speaker 5: Bob An any idea as to you know how your
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  Speaker 5: friends in the Old House Freedom concuss are feeling going
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  Speaker 5: into the midterms.
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  Speaker 17: Well, I hope that the Freedom Caucus will continue to
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  Speaker 17: fight and work to pull the Conference to the right,
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  Speaker 17: and that will actually earn the vote of the American
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  Speaker 17: people by drawing a clear contrast between us and Democrats.
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  Speaker 17: You said earlier in the broadcast, we don't want to
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  Speaker 17: be Democrat light, because then voters will probably just vote
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  Speaker 17: for the real thing. We need to give a clear
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  Speaker 17: distinct difference between Republicans and Democrats and help the American
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  Speaker 17: people choose. Hopefully they'll choose right.
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  Speaker 5: What's coming up on the Good for America Podcasts this week, Well.
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  Speaker 17: We'll continue to talk about just these various objects. We're
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  Speaker 17: going to continue to talk about the spending between now
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  Speaker 17: and the end of the year. We're going to look
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  Speaker 17: at what we have to be thankful for Thanksgiving and
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  Speaker 17: doing that Thanksgiving, so we certainly all need those reminders.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we'll be here on Black Friday. You know, I
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  Speaker 5: don't need to shop for anything, so we'll be on
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  Speaker 5: the radio, so hopefully. And if you're traveling with you
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  Speaker 5: there and I appreciate it, Bob, good good for America,
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  Speaker 5: and I appreciate it. Good for America dot org. And
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  Speaker 5: you have a wonderful Thanksgiving and we'll talk to you afterwards.
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  Speaker 5: You as well, Joe, thank you four three four eight
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  Speaker 5: eight two four two one seven And we get and
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  Speaker 5: do it up. And that is the question. And and
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  Speaker 5: understand that the peril in discussing populism versus conservative is
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  Speaker 5: ism is what is driving the Nick Fointes narrative. And
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  Speaker 5: I hate he's given them free airtime, this poser, this
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  Speaker 5: dumpster arsonist who's just looking for populism. And and at worst,
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  Speaker 5: I mean at best, most of these people at the
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  Speaker 5: So our friends in Florida know well when Rick Scott
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  Speaker 5: or Pam Bondi says, we'll fix everything for you, and
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  Speaker 5: we harken back to, you know, the horrors of things
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  Speaker 5: like Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, Parkland, Marjorie Stoneman, Douglas not
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  Speaker 5: Marjorie Taylor Green, the terrifically horrific events that they had
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  Speaker 5: shepherd through and often took less than conservative answers to it.
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  Speaker 5: And there are unfortunately forever tied to what happens when
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  Speaker 5: people who purport to be conservatives are confronted with an
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  Speaker 5: angry mob. We take the dom DeLuise paradigm, not the face,
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  Speaker 5: and we take and we capitulate. This is how we
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  Speaker 5: wind up multiple trillions of dollars in debt. This is
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  Speaker 5: how we wind up with a dollar that's worth pennies
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  Speaker 5: compared to what it was worth in the sixties. Because
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  Speaker 5: every time we say well this is broken, an angry
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  Speaker 5: mob shows up and sad, don't touch it. It's broken,
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  Speaker 5: but it's all we've got, which is not true. But
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  Speaker 5: the gas light has been very thorough. So Scott Care,
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  Speaker 5: I know he would probably rather call it Trump Care.
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  Speaker 5: Rick Scott has rolled out his proposal yesterday afternoon. It's
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  Speaker 5: called the More Affordable Care Act. I see what you
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  Speaker 5: did there, Rick. It takes the Affordable Care Act framework
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  Speaker 5: of you know, mandated insurance companies, mandated participation in the
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  Speaker 5: healthcare marketplace, but it expands what that marketplace looks like.
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  Speaker 5: Instead of subsidies going to the insurance company to pay
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  Speaker 5: for your deductibles, they will go into a health savings
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  Speaker 5: account for you to use as you see fit. And
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  Speaker 5: as I look for details, I've asked some inconvenient questions
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  Speaker 5: like okay, so can I use this subsidy account, the
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  Speaker 5: Trump Care health Savings account health Freedom account is what
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  Speaker 5: they're calling it. Can I use it to join a
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  Speaker 5: direct primary care association and just buy a major medical account?
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  Speaker 5: Or do I have to buy an HMO? And it's
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  Speaker 5: not in there. It's another one of these. You can't
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  Speaker 5: read it until you vote for it. I guess, Rick,
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  Speaker 5: you want to talk about keeping some of the lattice
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  Speaker 5: work from the Affordable Care Act. The Trump Health Freedom
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  Speaker 5: accounts are not your money. It's the federal subsidy dollars
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  Speaker 5: going into accounts in your name if you're signed into
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  Speaker 5: the program. They could not be used for abortion related services. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: but that was important for them to put out there
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  Speaker 5: so that that portion of the conservative voter base would
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  Speaker 5: be all right, all right? You know, consumers would be
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  Speaker 5: able to use the accounts to purchase ACA compliant plans
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  Speaker 5: or other approved coverage options. Now does a direct primary
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  Speaker 5: care association fit into that approved coverage option? If I
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  Speaker 5: want a major medical But the high deductible plans is
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  Speaker 5: what they call it. It's basically what if you're old enough,
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  Speaker 5: you remember the major medical so you would be able
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  Speaker 5: to have an hd HP high deductible health plans. See,
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  Speaker 5: everyone loves their acronyms. You take the high deductible health
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  Speaker 5: plan and then you get a direct primary care Association
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  Speaker 5: membership and it costs pennies on the dollar. But does
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  Speaker 5: this get approved? Does this plan in order to get
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  Speaker 5: rogue Kanna or Hakeem Jeffries or Eric Swallwell to jump
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  Speaker 5: on board, Tim Kain or Mark Warner. If they're going
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  Speaker 5: to jump on board with this, what about all the
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  Speaker 5: doctors starting with rand Paul on down? Does Ran Paul
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  Speaker 5: support this? I've talked to Ran Paul about direct primary
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  Speaker 5: care associations and this doesn't sound like a direct primary
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  Speaker 5: care association. This sounds like a cash grab. And I
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  Speaker 5: guarantee you if this passes, you will find direct primary
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  Speaker 5: care associations popping up like dandelions in spring, and you'll
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  Speaker 5: have to be careful because some of them are going
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  Speaker 5: to be snake oil salesman. Josh Umber at the Direct
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  Speaker 5: Primary Care Association one of the founders of the business
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  Speaker 5: model of direct primary care associations, and they're basically it's
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  Speaker 5: it's to put it in a metaphor, you'll get it's
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  Speaker 5: it's like costco for medical treatment. You join, it's a club,
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  Speaker 5: you pay either monthly or annually membership, and then there's
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  Speaker 5: you know, twenty five bucks to see the doctor wherever. Interestingly,
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  Speaker 5: I remember the first time I met Josh Umber and
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  Speaker 5: the Direct Primary Care Association, I said, so this was
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  Speaker 5: kind of what they told us HMOs were supposed to be,
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  Speaker 5: and he actually told me I was right. The sales
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  Speaker 5: pitch behind health management organizations AHMOS, Blue Cross, Blue Shield,
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  Speaker 5: all that was supposed to be exactly that, pay a
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  Speaker 5: membership fee and then you go see a doctor for
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  Speaker 5: a few bucks. That's not worked out.
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  Speaker 23: Has it?
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  Speaker 5: And the minutia of this Trump care proposal has got
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  Speaker 5: to be vetted out into how much control over what
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  Speaker 5: you use this HSA money for will the government have
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  Speaker 5: because some of the things that kill health savings accounts
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  Speaker 5: up to this point was how long can you hold
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  Speaker 5: on to the money, how frequently do you have to
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  Speaker 5: divest the health savings account. My belief is that if
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  Speaker 5: you had an open ended health savings account, you start
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  Speaker 5: at twenty five or thirty saving into your health savings account.
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  Speaker 5: By the time you're seventy and you need more medical care,
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  Speaker 5: you've saved up so much money. Not only do you
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  Speaker 5: have enough money to pay cash on the barrel head
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  Speaker 5: for your treatments for whatever ales a seventy year old
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  Speaker 5: or eighty year old, but you're probably helping your kids
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  Speaker 5: pay for their grandkids healthcare. Let me pay for let
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  Speaker 5: beware this is it better? Well, it's okay. So instead
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  Speaker 5: with a smaller hammer. But until Saturday morning at six
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  Speaker 5: or Monday morning at five. So long, Thanks for all
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  Speaker 4: My name is Bobby.
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  Speaker 21: I'm a veteran and lost my leg to a roadside bomb.
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  Speaker 21: My victory was going from a wheelchair to becoming a
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  Speaker 21: weightlifting champion.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Sam.
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  Speaker 20: I'm a veteran.
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  Speaker 17: My victory was finding a career I can be proud
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  Speaker 17: of and supporting my family.
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  Speaker 14: America's veterans are on their most important tour, the tour
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  Speaker 14: of their lives.
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  Speaker 13: My victory was going from homeless to all.
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  Speaker 14: At DAV, we're on a mission to help veterans get
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  Speaker 14: the benefits they've earned.
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  Speaker 12: I'm a veteran, and my victory was finishing my education.
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  Speaker 14: DAV offers veterans of all generations a lifetime of support
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  Speaker 14: for victories great and small.
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  Speaker 5: My victory was proving that disability is not a limitation.
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  Speaker 14: We help more than a million veterans every year as
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  Speaker 14: they face and conquer their challenges.
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  Speaker 20: My victory is being able to be there for my family.
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  Speaker 14: When America's veterans win, we all win. Help us support
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  Speaker 14: more victories for veterans. Go to dav dot org