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- 0:01Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Welcome
- 0:09Speaker 1: back to I Choose Me. I have been looking forward
- 0:12Speaker 1: to this day. Since my I Choose Me hotline debuted,
- 0:16Speaker 1: we have heard from so many of you. I'm honored
- 0:20Speaker 1: that you have reached out for support and encouragement along
- 0:23Speaker 1: the way. And while I can't get to all of
- 0:27Speaker 1: your calls, I am hoping that by answering some of
- 0:30Speaker 1: your questions many of you will feel seen along the way.
- 0:35Speaker 1: On that note, let's hear from Ashley Miller.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Hi, Jenny. My name's Ashley Miller. I'm also going through
- 0:43Speaker 2: my own kind of I choose me era. I'm in
- 0:46Speaker 2: the final stages of divorce and I'm kind of going
- 0:49Speaker 2: through this while I was just started anyway. I saw
- 0:53Speaker 2: body recomposition journey. I was trying to become the best
- 0:56Speaker 2: version of myself inside and out that I can. And
- 1:01Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if you had any advice about how
- 1:04Speaker 2: to combat the loneliness, how to be a good single
- 1:09Speaker 2: parent and be present and stop feeling like this need
- 1:13Speaker 2: for this outside validation from men and just how to
- 1:19Speaker 2: live your best life with your own happiness.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Well, this is exciting. Let's bring in Ashley now so
- 1:26Speaker 1: we can have some girl talk.
- 1:28Speaker 3: Hi, Ashley. Hi. Thank you for having me.
- 1:32Speaker 1: I'm so happy you called in. I'm so happy you
- 1:34Speaker 1: were vulnerable and, you know, shared with us all what
- 1:37Speaker 1: you're going through because guess what? We're all going through
- 1:40Speaker 1: the same things. And when we can kind of talk
- 1:43Speaker 1: it out, don't be nervous. I feel like maybe you're
- 1:46Speaker 1: a little nervous. We're just going to chat, you know,
- 1:49Speaker 1: and us talking about what you're going through and what
- 1:53Speaker 1: I've been through, it really opens up people's eyes and
- 1:56Speaker 1: I think people feel less alone. So I'm excited to
- 1:59Speaker 1: have this conversation with you.
- 2:01Speaker 3: Yeah. I hope it helps some people.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. First of all, I don't know if this
- 2:06Speaker 1: is the weirdest thing to say, but I'm so excited
- 2:08Speaker 1: for you that this is happening. Me too.
- 2:13Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Maybe that wasn't your first reaction to having a divorce, but-
- 2:18Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that you've kind of switched the
- 2:20Speaker 1: story and created this whole sort of I choose me
- 2:24Speaker 1: resurrection from it.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Yeah, it's brought me peace. I finally feel like I'm
- 2:31Speaker 3: out of limbo, I guess. I was in that stage
- 2:35Speaker 3: for so long.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Right. And that does not feel good.
- 2:39Speaker 3: No, no, it was awful. Awful. Yeah.
- 2:43Speaker 1: And you, I'm sure you felt the like physical repercussions
- 2:47Speaker 1: of it and just like on the inside, on the outside, mental, physical,
- 2:51Speaker 1: all of it.
- 2:51Speaker 3: Yeah, it really affected my mental health. Physically, I wasn't
- 2:57Speaker 3: taking care of myself because I just, I don't know,
- 3:01Speaker 3: I felt stuck and miserable and like I didn't know
- 3:06Speaker 3: what to do, I guess. And I was scared. Right.
- 3:11Speaker 1: I mean, I'll just address your question about the loneliness
- 3:15Speaker 1: because I can just completely relate to what you described
- 3:21Speaker 1: and what you've been through. The loneliness can feel suffocating,
- 3:25Speaker 1: I know. And it's usually a long, drawn-out process because, yeah,
- 3:31Speaker 1: divorce is a massive transition in life. And it's really
- 3:36Speaker 1: normal to feel lonely while you're navigating it. And you're
- 3:39Speaker 1: a single parent, right?
- 3:41Speaker 3: Yes. Yes. Wow. We have one daughter.
- 3:44Speaker 1: One daughter. And she lives with you or she goes
- 3:48Speaker 1: back and forth?
- 3:50Speaker 3: Yeah, we just started co-parenting. So she's only seven. So
- 3:54Speaker 3: she spends four days with me and then four days
- 3:57Speaker 3: with her dad.
- 3:59Speaker 1: How's that going for you?
- 4:01Speaker 3: So far, good. Great. I feel good. guilty thinking I
- 4:08Speaker 3: kind of like the free time sometimes, but I.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Know that feeling. I know that feeling. You hate it
- 4:14Speaker 1: when they leave, but then when they do leave, you're like,
- 4:16Speaker 1: wait a second, I can do it. Yeah. I can take,
- 4:21Speaker 1: actually take care of myself for a change.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I think she's been handling it really well.
- 4:28Speaker 3: She's adapting. Yeah.
- 4:30Speaker 1: I mean, that's what kids do. And you know, you
- 4:33Speaker 1: just have to, Just continue to check in with her
- 4:37Speaker 1: and ask her how she's doing. And, you know, hopefully
- 4:40Speaker 1: she'll feel comfortable talking to you about it because it's
- 4:42Speaker 1: a huge transition for not just you, but for her too,
- 4:45Speaker 1: of course.
- 4:47Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:48Speaker 1: As you kind of make this, you know, your way
- 4:52Speaker 1: through this time, you're going to need to focus on
- 4:56Speaker 1: making really intentional choices just one day at a time
- 5:00Speaker 1: about what do you want? this next chapter of your
- 5:04Speaker 1: life to look like. And you've spent, it sounds like
- 5:08Speaker 1: you've spent a good amount of it being what you said, miserable, lonely,
- 5:14Speaker 1: all the darkest feelings.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:18Speaker 3: And it's, it's not that my ex-husband was a bad person.
- 5:22Speaker 3: He's a wonderful man, wonderful father. I just, it didn't,
- 5:28Speaker 3: I don't know how to explain it. It didn't feel right,
- 5:31Speaker 3: I guess, deep down. I felt like this is what
- 5:36Speaker 3: the path I needed to go on.
- 5:38Speaker 1: Well, that's good that you listened to your instincts. They're
- 5:41Speaker 1: there to lead you. Took me many years. To finally listen.
- 5:47Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Yeah. I did what a lot of women do. I
- 5:52Speaker 1: think I isolated into my sort of cave of self-pity
- 5:56Speaker 1: and guilt and shame and all the feelings. And I
- 6:01Speaker 1: just sort of shut out the world. I don't know
- 6:04Speaker 1: if you can relate to that.
- 6:06Speaker 3: Yes, definitely. It's very isolating, especially when a lot of
- 6:11Speaker 3: my mom friends are married and happy. Right. I didn't
- 6:17Speaker 3: feel like I had many people to talk to about it.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Oh, that's the worst feeling.
- 6:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Well, I'm even more happy that we're talking then.
- 6:25Speaker 3: Me too.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Yeah, that kind of isolation, I don't recommend that. If
- 6:30Speaker 1: you're going through this, you know what I'm talking about.
- 6:34Speaker 1: And if I could go back and do it again,
- 6:35Speaker 1: I would absolutely support myself differently. And I would, you know,
- 6:41Speaker 1: like you said, come to the realization that it's okay
- 6:45Speaker 1: to have your alone time. You know, use those hours,
- 6:51Speaker 1: those days when your daughter is with her dad to
- 6:54Speaker 1: sort of support yourself and continue. Figure out. You've got
- 6:58Speaker 1: a lot of thinking to do. You've got a lot
- 7:00Speaker 1: of figuring things out to do about your future for
- 7:03Speaker 1: the first time probably in a really long time.
- 7:06Speaker 3: Yes.
- 7:08Speaker 1: But now you get to make yourself your top priority
- 7:14Speaker 1: and kind of choose the path. And when you think
- 7:18Speaker 1: about it, that's really exciting.
- 7:21Speaker 3: It is exciting. Change is nerve-wracking, though. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But
- 7:27Speaker 3: I think you said in one of your podcasts that
- 7:30Speaker 3: you feel like you're a better mom because you take
- 7:32Speaker 3: care of yourself.
- 7:34Speaker 1: I mean, yeah.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:36Speaker 1: I was not a great mom when I was in
- 7:38Speaker 1: the depths of the divorce and loneliness and all that,
- 7:41Speaker 1: all those feelings and the isolation. I would take my
- 7:46Speaker 1: kids to school and then I would go home and
- 7:48Speaker 1: eat cupcakes and get back in bed until it was
- 7:51Speaker 1: time to pick them up. I was just lost in
- 7:54Speaker 1: my misery, you know?
- 7:56Speaker 3: That's rough.
- 7:57Speaker 1: And there comes a point when you're like, okay, enough
- 8:00Speaker 1: is enough. I've got to pull myself together. And this
- 8:09Speaker 1: might sound crazy, but focusing on gratitude as much as
- 8:14Speaker 1: you can, being grateful that this has happened. I know
- 8:19Speaker 1: that sounds like weird bullshit.
- 8:23Speaker 3: No, it makes sense.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 8:25Speaker 3: Good. Yeah. Yeah. I'm grateful I finally had the courage
- 8:29Speaker 3: to do what I needed to do.
- 8:32Speaker 1: I mean, look at that. You just pat yourself on
- 8:34Speaker 1: the back for a minute, even though you blew up
- 8:36Speaker 1: your life, you know, and you hurt people and disappointed
- 8:40Speaker 1: people and, you know, caused yourself all this suffering. You
- 8:44Speaker 1: did what you knew in your heart needed to be done.
- 8:47Speaker 1: And that's like the ultimate I choose me scenario.
- 8:52Speaker 3: Yeah. It was, it was very difficult to get to
- 8:55Speaker 3: this point. I, I would get nauseous all the time,
- 8:59Speaker 3: like thinking, how am I going to talk to him
- 9:02Speaker 3: about this? How am I going to tell my daughter?
- 9:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 9:07Speaker 3: It was probably one of the hardest decisions I've had
- 9:09Speaker 3: to make in my life.
- 9:18Speaker 1: What was it that was the final straw for you?
- 9:20Speaker 1: What was it that made you say today's the day
- 9:22Speaker 1: I'm going to step forward and find my voice?
- 9:27Speaker 3: I don't know. It was just a lot of little
- 9:30Speaker 3: things that just kind of led up to it. We
- 9:35Speaker 3: did get separated about five years ago, but then I
- 9:38Speaker 3: decided to return because I just mentally wasn't ready to
- 9:42Speaker 3: pull the plug. But it's just a lot of little
- 9:47Speaker 3: things that led up to it. And I was finally like,
- 9:50Speaker 3: I'm going to be more present for my daughter and
- 9:54Speaker 3: a better mom if I do this if I do
- 9:57Speaker 3: what's right for me.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, because you have the choice. You can wallow
- 10:03Speaker 1: in that uncertainty and that limbo, as you called it,
- 10:07Speaker 1: and probably anger towards yourself for not being brave in
- 10:12Speaker 1: your mind or strong enough in your mind to do it.
- 10:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Ultimately, you can live in that dark space. Or you
- 10:22Speaker 1: can look at this as a beautiful opportunity, like you said,
- 10:26Speaker 1: to be a more present mom and to live a
- 10:29Speaker 1: life that makes you feel good.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Yeah. And I feel more at peace and just, I
- 10:38Speaker 3: don't know, energized somehow.
- 10:41Speaker 1: What stage are you in right now? How's it going?
- 10:44Speaker 1: How long has it been? And you said that she
- 10:46Speaker 1: just started going to her dad's house. What are you
- 10:49Speaker 1: focusing on?
- 10:52Speaker 3: Um, well, we're almost through, it's almost finalized. Um, I
- 10:57Speaker 3: think it might be next week. Um, so I've just
- 11:01Speaker 3: been focusing on getting used to things, adapting, um, you know,
- 11:08Speaker 3: helping her through it.
- 11:09Speaker 1: There's a lot that comes with that too. That's a
- 11:13Speaker 1: lot of guilt. Yeah.
- 11:16Speaker 3: She told me this morning, she's, her dad's going to
- 11:19Speaker 3: pick her up today. Um, And she told me, I
- 11:23Speaker 3: wish you and dad weren't breaking up. And I felt
- 11:25Speaker 3: so bad.
- 11:26Speaker 1: Oh, it's the worst.
- 11:28Speaker 3: I want to, she's like, I want you both in
- 11:30Speaker 3: the same house. I felt so bad. And I was like,
- 11:34Speaker 3: I know this is difficult, you know, but we're adapting
- 11:38Speaker 3: and you're, you have two loving parents and we're going
- 11:41Speaker 3: to be a family, even if we're living in separate houses.
- 11:43Speaker 3: And I think that helped, hopefully.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Yeah. Once you get used to it.
- 11:48Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's been, I mean, he was angry, but
- 11:52Speaker 3: it's been very amicable for the most part. I've been
- 11:56Speaker 3: lucky that way. Yeah.
- 11:58Speaker 1: I mean, very lucky. Yeah. It sounds like you have
- 12:02Speaker 1: a great co-parent, so I am really happy for you
- 12:06Speaker 1: for that.
- 12:08Speaker 3: I'm grateful for him.
- 12:10Speaker 1: So are you journaling? Are you, you know, taking time
- 12:14Speaker 1: to like kind of get it all out on paper?
- 12:17Speaker 3: I haven't been. I keep thinking about it in my head.
- 12:20Speaker 3: I need to just get my journal out and just
- 12:22Speaker 3: start writing.
- 12:23Speaker 1: But is there something in you that's like, I don't
- 12:26Speaker 1: want to do that? That seems silly.
- 12:28Speaker 3: No, it's not silly. I used to journal all the time.
- 12:31Speaker 1: Oh, good, good.
- 12:32Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I stopped for a long time because
- 12:36Speaker 3: I was paranoid that somebody would read it, like my husband.
- 12:40Speaker 3: Of course. And then I can't be totally honest in
- 12:44Speaker 3: it because, yeah, it's not going to be good. Yeah.
- 12:48Speaker 3: But I definitely want to get back into it.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. Having routine, having things that bring you
- 12:54Speaker 1: that those little moments of joy are so helpful to
- 12:58Speaker 1: like refuel, refill your cup.
- 13:01Speaker 3: Yeah, it's helped me through this whole process. Just I
- 13:04Speaker 3: go out and walk for like two miles or something
- 13:07Speaker 3: and just it's very it's calming for the soul.
- 13:11Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like you're doing all the right things.
- 13:14Speaker 3: I hope so. Thank you.
- 13:16Speaker 1: What do you think is your biggest struggle right now?
- 13:21Speaker 3: Well, like I said in my message, I worry that
- 13:24Speaker 3: I'm going to be lonely.
- 13:25Speaker 1: And now you get to take the adventures that you
- 13:28Speaker 1: wanted to take.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 13:30Speaker 1: And you know what? You're not doing it alone. You're
- 13:33Speaker 1: doing it with your forever best friend.
- 13:36Speaker 3: Yeah. You. Me. Yeah, that's true.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Have you had the chance to really connect with... yourself
- 13:45Speaker 1: on that level so that you, so that when in
- 13:48Speaker 1: the times when you naturally feel a little lonely or
- 13:50Speaker 1: like this is different and you know, all the, all
- 13:53Speaker 1: that kind of lost stuff, but have you been able
- 13:55Speaker 1: to connect with the little Ashley inside of you that
- 14:01Speaker 1: is always there for you?
- 14:02Speaker 3: Oh, a little bit. Um, my walks kind of do
- 14:07Speaker 3: that for me. Um, and I go and watch the sunset.
- 14:10Speaker 3: I take a lot of pictures of it. Um, It just,
- 14:13Speaker 3: it feels really good inside to be able to do that.
- 14:17Speaker 1: You are like a poster child for how to come
- 14:20Speaker 1: through a really dark time and come out of it
- 14:23Speaker 1: on the other side and really like get to the
- 14:26Speaker 1: choosing of yourself. You're doing, you've joined the support groups. You,
- 14:32Speaker 1: you know, you're reaching out even by leaving this voicemail
- 14:35Speaker 1: and coming on the pod. You're putting yourself, you're being
- 14:38Speaker 1: vulnerable and that's really what it takes. Yeah. To really
- 14:42Speaker 1: honor yourself and love yourself enough to put yourself out
- 14:46Speaker 1: there like that, even though it's scary and unfamiliar and
- 14:49Speaker 1: you're afraid of the loneliness times that are, you know,
- 14:53Speaker 1: to come. But maybe if you, you know, continue to
- 14:56Speaker 1: reframe it for yourself that you're not alone, you're never alone.
- 15:02Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've got to work on that. That
- 15:06Speaker 3: perspective makes a lot of sense. And I listen to
- 15:09Speaker 3: a lot of podcasts like yours. And that's really helped
- 15:13Speaker 3: kind of inspire me and motivate me to do this.
- 15:16Speaker 3: Cause I've been looking for a lot of advice, I guess.
- 15:21Speaker 3: And it's kind of helped give me the courage to
- 15:25Speaker 3: stand up for myself.
- 15:26Speaker 1: Right.
- 15:27Speaker 3: To choose me. Right.
- 15:28Speaker 1: I mean, you get, you get all that info, the,
- 15:32Speaker 1: you know, you download stuff from other people that whether
- 15:34Speaker 1: it's a podcast or other people's stories, your support group stories,
- 15:38Speaker 1: and then you, and then you just, find the time
- 15:41Speaker 1: to sit with yourself, you know, take those walks, the
- 15:45Speaker 1: times when you get to really just have your thoughts and, and,
- 15:49Speaker 1: you know, sit with them.
- 15:52Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. It's very true.
- 15:54Speaker 1: I'm like I said, in the beginning, I'm very excited
- 15:58Speaker 1: for you.
- 15:58Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 16:00Speaker 1: There's nowhere to go, but up, you know?
- 16:02Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
- 16:03Speaker 1: You've made, you've done the hard part now. It seems
- 16:07Speaker 1: like with finding the strength to make the decision, to
- 16:11Speaker 1: make the change.
- 16:14Speaker 3: Yeah, change can be scary.
- 16:15Speaker 1: Yeah, but look what you've done. Look what you've faced
- 16:19Speaker 1: and look what you've done. And that should really propel
- 16:22Speaker 1: you to say, I'm proud of myself. I love myself
- 16:26Speaker 1: because I was brave to do what I knew needed
- 16:31Speaker 1: to be done.
- 16:33Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. And you've done it too. Yeah.
- 16:36Speaker 1: And it's, you know, you sharing your story with women
- 16:39Speaker 1: out there who might be, you know, in a similar situation,
- 16:42Speaker 1: you're helping other people. And that should make you feel good.
- 16:47Speaker 3: I hope so. Thank you.
- 16:48Speaker 1: So keep doing what you're doing, lady. I think you're
- 16:50Speaker 1: doing great.
- 16:52Speaker 3: Thanks. I will.
- 16:53Speaker 1: And just remember, you're never alone. You've got your best
- 16:56Speaker 1: friend for life right there with you.
- 16:59Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll remember that.
- 17:01Speaker 1: Well, I wish you all the best and I'm excited
- 17:04Speaker 1: for you. So go get it. You get to live
- 17:06Speaker 1: the life you want now and have that wonderful relationship
- 17:09Speaker 1: with your daughter without all those conflicting feelings.
- 17:13Speaker 3: Thank you so much. That means a lot.
- 17:15Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing your I Choose Me
- 17:18Speaker 1: challenges with all of us. Ashley, you're not alone. And
- 17:22Speaker 1: the more we all talk together, the more we can
- 17:25Speaker 1: all grow and learn. Listeners, if you have a question
- 17:30Speaker 1: you would like to talk through, something that you're dealing
- 17:33Speaker 1: with in your life or struggling with, please call the
- 17:37Speaker 1: I Choose Me hotline today, 844-5JENNIE. That's 844-553-6643. I love
- 17:40Speaker 1: you all, and I'll talk to you soon.