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SAUSAGE ZVEREV SLIPS UP · Pod Laver Arena

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, I want to write a
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  Speaker 1: huge parody song from start to finish of New York,
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: New York about the US Open final.
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  Speaker 2: Beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Try to write it. Then I'm like struggling because I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like ups and downs, Sinatra sings it.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of tricky. I get on ChatGPT. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: can you help me with this, please? ChatGPT takes me
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: down the darkest tunnel of which way to go. ChatGPT
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: tells me they're like, maybe you should think of using
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  Speaker 1: another song for your tennis podcast. I was like, shut up, ChatGPT.
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  Speaker 2: Start hitting your serve.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty good, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's landing today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's easy to do. That's the easy part.
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  Speaker 1: Wait till you get to like, when you're trying to
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: build up to the chorus.
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  Speaker 2: I think you skipped that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, do you?
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  Speaker 2: I think you just got lost in the weeds. You
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: just got to.
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  Speaker 1: 12 months. I've got 12 months to work on it
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  Speaker 1: for the next, the next US Open.
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  Speaker 2: If I can break you there, I can break you anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: I won the US Open in New York. New York.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: ChatGPT was right. Pick another song.
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  Speaker 2: Show me perfect tennis. Wow.
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, no way.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we are here at the end of the Grand
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: Slam year. The U.S. Open is in the books. And
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  Speaker 2: Rebecca Nutt and Zverev are our new king and queen
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  Speaker 2: of New York.
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  Speaker 1: Of the world? Do they get... Because, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: American sports, often world champion is just whoever wins. You know,
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: it's the World Series or the.
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  Speaker 2: Of the world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Super Bowl world champion.
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  Speaker 2: The best in the world.
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  Speaker 1: I guess if you win the US Open, you automatically
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  Speaker 1: forget all the other rankings. You are now the best
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  Speaker 1: in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you get it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Finally, an Australian who understands how sports works.
• 1:48
  Speaker 2: Thank you. But, I mean, you have to say that
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  Speaker 2: Zverev winning two slams this year and Rebecca winning two slams,
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  Speaker 2: they are the biggest successes of the year.
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: I think we're back in a definitely history. We'll remember
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: it that way. It's fair if, and maybe we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into it later.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: He won two slams. You can't deny he won two
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  Speaker 1: slams and you got it. You got to get through it.
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  Speaker 1: You got to do it, but you know, he, It's
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  Speaker 1: not like he got through the two big dogs. It
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  Speaker 1: worked out for him. And you can only play who's
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  Speaker 1: in front of you. True. So he's had the best year.
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  Speaker 1: You can't deny it. But am I going to say
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  Speaker 1: he's the best player?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he might get the number one ranking by the
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  Speaker 2: end of the year. And then you can't argue.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it was even weird just seeing him as the
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  Speaker 1: number one seed in a Grand Slam tournament. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: the one next to his name. You're like, okay, all right.
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  Speaker 1: You can't deny.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stats don't lie. So you're a draw truther,
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: you think, because he didn't face Alcaraz or Sinner in
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  Speaker 2: the two slams that he played. No, no. The two
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  Speaker 2: slams that he won, I should say.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, and maybe this is because I watch
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  Speaker 1: a lot of boxing as well, and I do think
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  Speaker 1: your resume is kind of a body of work of
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: what you've done, right? And so, you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying he got a lucky draw. I'm just saying injuries
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  Speaker 1: worked in his favor. And hell, like, absolutely, that's fun.
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  Speaker 1: Take it. And you've still got to beat people. You've
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  Speaker 1: still got to show up. But, like, until he wins, like,
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  Speaker 1: a slam final against one of the two big dogs,
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  Speaker 1: the greats of this era, you're not going to put
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  Speaker 1: him up into that category, are you? I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to rag on him after the best week of his life.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we have Sasha Zverev on the phone from New York.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see.
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  Speaker 1: Start spreading the news. I don't think you're as good
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  Speaker 1: as you do.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so yeah, the US Open is over. I do
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: get sad at the end of the Grand Slam season,
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: you know, but it's only a few short months until
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: the AO kicks off.
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: It is crazy thinking that because, yeah, like we walked
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: in here today and I was like, oh, the Slam's done.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'm like, it's already feeling a bit summery
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  Speaker 1: in Australia.
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, we're almost there. Before you know it,
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: you get to Christmas. And then one of the great
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: joys is that Christmas is done. New Year's, and then
• 3:56
  Speaker 1: you're like, well, the tennis is around the corner. Yeah.
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: And it's getting longer and longer, the AO. It is.
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: Before you know it, it's going to start on the 25th.
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  Speaker 1: There'll be some other weird qualifiers coming up.
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  Speaker 2: So on Christmas Day, it kicks off, qualifiers.
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  Speaker 1: I think so, yeah. I think so.
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  Speaker 2: If they open the field more, and they just have
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  Speaker 2: like a thousand people.
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  Speaker 1: You know what Melbourne is like, though? If they just
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: open the gates and set it up, people in Melbourne
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: will just come here. People don't even know who... Who's
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: playing half the time. They're like, we're going to the tennis.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, dude, one point slam starting mid-September for the entire
• 4:31
  Speaker 2: population of Melbourne.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, I love that idea.
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  Speaker 2: It's not bad.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't we do that for the entirety of Melbourne?
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  Speaker 1: So it's just we line everyone up one by one,
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  Speaker 1: one point slam, winner plays on, big cash prize. We
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  Speaker 1: would probably have to start it before September.
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  Speaker 2: And everyone has to play. It's mandatory.
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: No, you have to play. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: You could play a baby.
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course you could play a baby. You got
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: to get a bus to a nursing home and just
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: get them all. They don't know where they're going. They
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  Speaker 1: just get put on a tennis court. Someone hits the
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  Speaker 1: weakest forehand. They don't even chase it.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of weak forehands, we played pickleball yesterday. No, it
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  Speaker 2: was great. We played with our good friend Aaron Chen,
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  Speaker 2: who was, you might remember from The Dink.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: He was in the big pickleball movie this year.
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  Speaker 1: And do you know what? The best part is he...
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: he turned up with his paddle yeah and he's like
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  Speaker 1: i got this from the movie yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He was in he was in the tank with ben
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  Speaker 2: stiller and he had movie branded gear yeah yeah and at.
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  Speaker 1: One point i was talking about andre agassi and chenny's
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: like yeah i met his coach like he's in another
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  Speaker 1: world now he's in another stratosphere.
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  Speaker 2: I mean we're sitting here with the the top 10
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  Speaker 2: players we're we're in that stratosphere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah but they don't respect us no did you get
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  Speaker 1: a paddle no no.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get a paddle I got hit by a
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  Speaker 2: ping pong ball in the back by Matt Shelton and
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: it still stings. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I got hit by Pat Rafter, which is worse because
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  Speaker 1: he's so beautiful and friendly that you almost want to
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: ask him to do it again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually think we have to start working out
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  Speaker 2: now just in case we have to get our shirts
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  Speaker 2: off again.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I have been actually for that one reason.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to get ripped for the sting pong?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sting pong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: high rocks very soon.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you're going to be the next person.
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  Speaker 1: Doing it on an empty stomach.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to diarrhea yourself out there.
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  Speaker 1: What sport? So, okay, this is a hypothetical. And so
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  Speaker 1: the lady did high rocks. But she's kind of being
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  Speaker 1: celebrated in some sections of the internet for, like, getting
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  Speaker 1: through it. I'm like, there's very few sporting scenarios where
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  Speaker 1: I could get violent diarrhea and not be like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what? I'm going to step out for a second.
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  Speaker 1: And I think one of the only ones is maybe, like,
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  Speaker 1: maybe if I was in a Grand Slam final. But
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: even then, there's so many people watching that. Yeah. Or
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  Speaker 1: maybe if it's Grand Slam finals doubles because you don't
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: want to let your partner down. But even then, your
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: partner's like, you smell like shit. Is there any sport,
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  Speaker 1: is there any scenario where you, I don't know, you're
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  Speaker 1: a germ freak. Is there any sport or any scenario
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  Speaker 1: where you keep going?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if I'm like doing the half pipe
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: and skateboarding. i want to like launch off the lip
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  Speaker 2: like mid spray.
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  Speaker 1: Just keep going to the abyss like et leaving the
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  Speaker 1: planet i.
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  Speaker 2: Mean that would be sick yeah people remember that forever
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  Speaker 2: oh that would be fantastic can i show you a
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  Speaker 2: pickleball clip that's almost as embarrassing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah please do yeah what have you got so.
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  Speaker 2: We did we played with uh aaron chen who's in
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  Speaker 2: the dink uh And he, with Oliver Clark, was his
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  Speaker 2: partner who filled in for you last week.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't wear the suit.
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: Didn't wear the suit, but Ollie's a good player. And
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  Speaker 2: then you did get progressively better as the match went along.
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  Speaker 2: We played best of five sets. They took the first two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then we won the next three.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You were giving me eyes that, oh, I can
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  Speaker 1: only imagine a reserve for like. close family members when
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: they do something that you were looking at me like,
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  Speaker 1: you're like, you're embarrassing me. But I lifted and we, and,
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  Speaker 1: and it was incredible to come back. Really.
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  Speaker 2: I did feel bad because at one point you said,
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  Speaker 2: why am I missing like that? And I said, look
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  Speaker 2: where you're standing. Fuckhead.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I felt, I didn't feel bad.
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  Speaker 1: No, but don't feel bad about that. Do you know
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  Speaker 1: the one that hurt me more was when you said
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  Speaker 1: to me, and I know what this feeling is like,
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  Speaker 1: because often I take people out to play golf that
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: are getting into it. And I say, you said this
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: to me, you said, do you want tips or do
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  Speaker 1: you want to just do your own thing? And I
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's what you say to someone. That's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I felt dirty. Why? Because I was like, just help me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I feel like tips can be condescending and some
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  Speaker 2: people take umbrage to tips.
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  Speaker 1: No, but you know me. So I've played a lot
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  Speaker 1: of sport in my life. I want to get better.
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  Speaker 1: I just am so bad with it. And it is
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: always called positioning. I'm in no man's land. Obviously, it's
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: not always. There's some, you know, kind of. quite poor
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  Speaker 1: hand-eye coordination issues I'm dealing with as well.
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  Speaker 2: But you're a weapon golfer, so I think it does
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  Speaker 2: translate a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But as Cheney said to me yesterday, he goes, he goes,
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  Speaker 1: I thought you'd be good because of golf. And he goes,
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  Speaker 1: but then I realized the ball doesn't move in golf.
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  Speaker 2: Chenny was good and but okay let's look at one
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  Speaker 2: of the highlights or low light maybe i should say
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  Speaker 2: from the match sorry to do this to you no
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  Speaker 2: but the the pickleball center sends me the clips this is.
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  Speaker 1: Uh so that's me in the maroon yeah that's not
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  Speaker 1: bad yeah that's a good dig there okay here we
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  Speaker 1: go chenny all.
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  Speaker 2: Right there's you again that's not bad.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and then look at me oh no clark celebrating
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: and then look at your face i mean your face
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  Speaker 1: in these moments is almost better because you turn to
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: look at me and.
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  Speaker 2: See, that's good.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like I've got nothing.
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  Speaker 2: But I was just like, oh.
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: And then look at your face. Your drop was the
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  Speaker 1: best there. You go, oh.
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  Speaker 2: But the fall to the ground. Look at that.
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  Speaker 1: Just a man with nothing left. Also, you know, at
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  Speaker 1: one point, I didn't say I got dizzy. Because I
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: hadn't drunk enough water that morning. Yeah. And I haven't
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: been exercising a lot in the last few weeks. And
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  Speaker 1: at one point, I started seeing stars. but i didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to let you down.
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  Speaker 2: You were seeing stars yeah aaron chan.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: And michael steen oliver clark at one point as well
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: i got violent diarrhea as well but i kept going
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  Speaker 1: do you remember that bit.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you sure look like shit out there all
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: right so let's get into the u.s open uh before
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: we get into the finals just a few things that
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: leapt out at me From when we recorded our last episode,
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: we were two quarterfinal matches in. TFO had just been
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: beaten Mickelson. And then the rest of the quarterfinals that
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: day were amazing, dude. They all went to final set
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: deciders and final set tie breaks and everything but the
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: Pagoula match. And Shelton versus Alcaraz, probably the match of
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: the tournament. Yeah. Yeah.
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was exciting. And I mean, it's kind
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: of like you sort of have to expect that Carlos
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: is probably not. You think on his day, he gets
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: it done over Shelton. But I guess he's a bit
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: not match fit. But it's kind of like I really
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: like seeing Shelton get through. I think it's cool to
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: see an American like in America do it, even though,
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: you know, America is not Australia. But I do like.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: I like seeing the Americans get up and get rowdy.
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  Speaker 1: It's a cool thing to see.
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  Speaker 2: It makes the, obviously, vibe in New York, like, through
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  Speaker 2: the roof. And Shelton playing TFO in the semifinal. Like,
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: they didn't know who to get behind, really.
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, Shelton making it to the final, he's going
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: to remember that. I know he didn't win. There's going
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: to be, like, a core memory for the rest of
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: his life. Yeah. It's like when we had Sam Stozek
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: in here. And she was talking about like everyone in
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: the crowd wanting her to lose.
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Against Serena. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of the greatest things I've ever heard. Like
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: it's insane. She's like, she could feel the anger from
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: the New York crowd. It's awesome. It's one of the
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: great things in sports.
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  Speaker 2: It is. So 10-7 in the final set tie break,
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: Shelton takes out Alcaraz. Alcaraz, yeah, maybe was finally showing
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: the rust from being five months away from the sport
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: and just fatigue. I think it comes down to not
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  Speaker 2: a lot of match play. He looked obviously amazing in
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: the first few rounds. But then Shelton, you know, obviously
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: had been playing all the lead-up tournaments.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and playing well.
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: And playing well, winning in Canada. And Alcaraz, amazing. That
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: first set in this quarterfinal match was probably my favorite
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: set of tennis this whole tournament between Alcaraz and Shelton.
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: The next two sets, Alcaraz just started spraying forehands. And
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: we'll get into why, because Varev has a theory on
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: how he handled Shelton that Alcaraz hasn't done. Okay. And
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: TFO didn't do. So we'll get into that when we
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: get into it.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: But don't you think, I think Carlos, like when he
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: plays these five set epics, I'm not saying he switches off,
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: but he like, and I know it does happen in
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: like five set matches, there's flows and momentum, but he
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: can like, it can go missing for him. And I
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: think he's such an amazing, that's why he's so exciting
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: that he can then do amazing things, which, he finds
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: something deep inside and he can kind of kickstart it.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: But obviously there's a bit, a huge lack of match play,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, over the last kind of four or five months. Well,
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  Speaker 1: this is, I'm saying it's not incredibly unique for him
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: to kind of lose it for a few sets or
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: a set.
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  Speaker 2: No. And I mean, well, we saw it when we,
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  Speaker 2: he played Zverev.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, perfect example here in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: He had cramps. There was more physical issues going on,
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: but then he still got through. He's never, I mean,
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: the only other five set match he's lost in a
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: grand slam is was to Berrettini in like 2022, I
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: want to say, 2023.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: That's a crazy stat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So this and then now this.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: That's a crazy stat.
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to Shelton. So I think he's going to be
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: all the better for it. You know, if he keeps playing,
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: he's going to be back. Alcaraz for the Lever Cup
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: at the end of the month, which is Team Europe
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: versus Team World.
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: Let's go Team World.
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  Speaker 2: So that implies Europe is not part of the world.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: They're not to me. I like it. Because in a
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: lot of sports, it's like America versus the world. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's better that it's like we get America.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: In a lot of wars, it's America versus the world.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: No, I think Australia are kind of jumping. We jump
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: on board as well, but we don't count. Normal Americans
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: don't know we're there. No. Kind of the same in sport.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: You guys are like the sidecar on a motorcycle, you know?
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's flattering. I'd say we're like the spare tire
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: hidden under the... In the back boot of the car.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: You're saying Alcaraz will be better for it. Do you
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: think Shelton is going to be better for this tournament? Yeah.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Or do you think this will be the thing people remember? Like,
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know what his ceiling is, right, in terms
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: of talent and career trajectory. Will this be his moment
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: that people talk about being like, yeah, that great run
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: at the US Open in 26? Or is this like
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: the start of maybe him doing something more?
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: I think something more. I mean, we'll get to his future.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: I guess he'll probably get to world number four. I
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: think that's confirmed. He's world number four after this run.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: And I think he's 23 and all parts of his
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: game are starting to come together. His backhand was a
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: weakness people picked on forever. And now it's a shot
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: that's reliable and consistent. But Zverev played into it in
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: a high ball, slow play way. That absolutely wrecked him.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: So can you explain that further? When you say high ball,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: high ball slow?
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Slow. So it's like you slow ball your opponent, right?
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: You're kind of lofting it up. Okay, I might as
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: well say it now. This is what Zverev said Alcaraz
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: and TFO got wrong as they hit it with pace
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: into Shelton's backhand, and then he could absolutely just hit
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: it back, like absorb that pace, hit it back and redirect.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: And then Zverev would just kind of hit slow, consistently
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: to the backhand, wait for, and when he has to
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: come over the top of the ball, Shelton, he's not
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: hitting it back with any pace.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, of course, right? Because then it becomes an
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: angles game.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Whereas if you just rip it into the backcourt, he'll
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: just stand there and just absolutely clobber it back, right?
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: And you might lose that because he's so powerful. Yeah.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Which was like exactly, I mean, what Nadal found out
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: playing Federer.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Is that if you hit it high to his backhand,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: he's going to struggle to hit it back with any.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Why would Ferrer say that publicly? I would kind of
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: keep a lot of these tactics to myself.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is interesting. Yeah, hold it to yourself
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: for every time you play them in the future. But, like,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: now people are just going to be slowballing.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Because, yeah, one of the great things about tennis is that, like,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: you just have these, like, career-long tactics that work against. Like,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: you know, there's people that are, like, shouldn't beat someone,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: yet for whatever reason they've worked out the other person.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Remember the Agassi? The tongue? Yeah. Yeah.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the tongue. I mean, now that is great.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, you don't let the tongue thing get out.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Agassi, yeah, would watch Becker's tongue and go, oh, the
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: serve's going down the tee.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Becker should have seen the way he
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: readjusted his wig and been like, okay, he's going to
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: the corner.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Becker's apparently part lizard.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: The tongue is great. His tongue got a fly on
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: the left side.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll get in more detail into the final. But
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I find that, that is very interesting though. I find
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: it interesting that he let it slip as well.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: It's a guy who's too excited that he won.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Maybe like just text Alcaraz privately and be like,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Hey man, just stop hitting it with pace.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Just don't do it anyway. You guys crazy competitors.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: It's fair if he's too excited. He, what it is,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: and I know you said we'll get to it later,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: but He's excited that he won. He's had a career
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: year and he just wants people to know how smart
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: and clever he is. So he let it slip.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: You're flush with the adrenaline of victory. Yeah. Look at
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: what I did.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: It's not pace. It's height and depth.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like when you play fast but flat, he
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: handles his back in a lot better than when you
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: play high. The other big thing to come out of
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: the quarterfinals is Rebecca beating Zhang Qunwen and claiming the
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: world number one. This is Kind of an odd thing,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: you know, mid-tournament, getting world number one, kind of resting
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: it off Sabalenka, who had been there for 99 weeks.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: But is that just like projected? So she won, and
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: then it's like with the points she'll overtake. It's not
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: like they're doing live.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: No, it's not like immediately.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. It's like post-tournament they do it. But
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: obviously everyone's already done the math.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: But it put her in this weird position that she's, okay,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: she'll be world number one regardless of what happens the
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: rest of the tournament. But then if she goes on
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: and loses to Sabalenka in the final, then it's like,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: it just feels off.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like, yeah, it's kind of a hollow
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: world number one kind of moment.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, that is very strange, isn't it? Yeah.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: But she absolutely, you know, established.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I think she justified the position. Yeah. Yeah.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: And then the semifinals just quickly. Goff and Rebecca was
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: a killer match. 3-6, 6-4, 6-4 to obviously Rebecca. Those
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: last couple sets, Rebecca just showed that her power and
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: pace kind of knocked Goff off her game. Those deep
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: baseline returns, even though she's playing Goff, who's the best
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: athlete and quickest feet on tour. Just couldn't get around
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: enough to kind of get the ball back in an
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: aggressive way that would keep her in the points. Sabs
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: and JPEG. That was the other semifinal in the women's.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: This is Jess Pagula after the match. She said, I'm
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: not sure who pissed her off today, Sabalenka, but she
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: played insane and at a super high level. And then
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: the journalist reminded Jess Pagula that the last time they played,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Pagula bageled Sabalenka. in the deciding set. And she goes, oh,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I pissed her off.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good stuff.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: So no American woman through then after the semifinals. But
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I think for real tennis heads, the rivalry at the
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: moment is Sabalenka, Rebecca.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I think so. And Rabakina has kind of been like,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: at least on hard courts, it's kind of like it's
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: her domain now, which is kind of crazy because the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: conversation up until I guess 18 months, 12 months ago
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: at least was like Sabalenka, you're not going to beat
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: her on a hard court type situation, power hit her.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And then Rabakina's kind of been like, hang on.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Hang on.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Look at this. Yeah.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: So they're head to head now, 10 and 8 in
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Sabalenka's favor. But Rabakina's took the two slams this year
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: against her.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: So Rabakina and, wait, Rabakina's world number one has three slams, one, two.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: She's won everything but the French.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean, it is, I mean, it's a
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: great kind of conversation now as well. And Sabalenka must
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: be like, Part of me thinks she must be like,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: they were sort of my slams to win. She's in
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: this peak period of her career, kind of dominating. And yeah, look,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's in her brain, but she must
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: feel like she's let a few slams slip away. Yeah.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: that are going to go down on her record that
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: she really could have won.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I'll get into her Grand Slam record
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: once we get to the women's semifinal. But just quickly
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: in the men's semifinals, the StubHub ticket resale outlet that's
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: huge in America, the Zverev-Kashinov match, tickets were day before
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and day of were going for $ 23. 00.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Now that's not good.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: And Shelton TFO, $ 330 an hour. Yeah, there you go.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: What does that say, Mike, to you?
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Americans want to watch Americans.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But also, and I think we've
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: been saying it for a little bit, that like, The
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: characters are all on the women's side of tennis at
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the moment. I feel like there's bigger names, there's better
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: storylines at the moment.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: More compelling.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Exactly, right? There's no way that 15 years ago, I
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: feel like you get to a men's semifinal, I'd feel
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: like people would be giving everything they have to go
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: regardless of who's playing. Obviously, if there's an American, things
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: are different. But still, pretty cool to go to a
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Semi-final of a Grand Slam.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I also think, too, your average American casual sports watcher,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Zverev and Kashinov are two guys they've probably never heard of.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Or just like, well, we don't know.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: So, okay, this is a good question. Does Zverev have
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the lowest profile of any two-time Grand Slam? Okay, in
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: a year, he's won two Grand Slams, right? That's crazy.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: He's won two Grand Slams. Does he have the lowest
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: household profile of any tennis player in recent memories?
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: So in terms of a guy who's winning slams.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Winning slams, making finals of slams as well. Yeah.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: He's up there. I mean, maybe like Varinka outside of
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: tennis heads is like people are like, oh.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He hasn't got crossover appeal in any way. Yeah.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: So, of course, Alexander Zverev beating Kashinov in that final.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And two things with both guys' names. We'll do Zverev first.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: If your name is Alexander and you're Russian or German,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: like Sasha is your nickname. Yes. I don't totally understand why, but,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: you know, Alexander Bublik is also known as Sasha Bublik. Yep.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Alexander Zverev, Sasha Zverev.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we don't got to look that up why
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: that is.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: No. Why would we? Why would we do the bare
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: minimum of research at work? So one of the journos,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I guess, for the U.S. Open kind of got the
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: pronunciation wrong.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, fantastic.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Sausage Varev.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Sausage Varev is.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Making me hungry. It does, mate.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: It sounds good. I would buy it from the butcher.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Sausage Vera. Look, I have some sympathy for that lady. Like,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: who was it? I remember talking to a former TV
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: sports reporter that does all sports and they would say
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: when it's like peak tennis time and they're going through
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: all the names, it can be difficult. Yeah. And you
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: just try your best and you don't check your DMs.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: That's what you've got to do. But sausage... Sausage is like...
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Sausage is wrong. We all know sausage is wrong.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Sausage is wrong. And how did the other people on
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: that desk not go, did you say sausage?
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Did you say sausage? Did you say sausage?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I would absolutely call it out.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Do you reckon she knew she said sausage or she's
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: completely oblivious to it? Or she's such a pro that
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: she said sausage and is like, no one's going to
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: pick that up. Yeah. If I say it confidently, people
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: will be like, well, maybe they call him sausage.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Maybe at least he's tall, he's skinny, he's a bit sausagey.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: And the thing is, I think she was trying to
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: be more in the know by saying the Sasha, you know,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: like as I said.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, yeah.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Instead of just Alex or, you know, or just Zverev.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: We're accustomed to calling tennis players just by their last names.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: But her just trying to be like, oh, yeah, Sausage Zverev.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: But we are absolutely calling him Sausage from here on out.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I'm going to call him Chorizo. Ooh. That's more exciting.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, but the sauce, man. We'll call him Snag.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Snag.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: How deep could it go?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Snag works.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: The Snag.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Nduja.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Nduja?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Isn't that a sausage? It's Nduja, not Nduja. I
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: think it is.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Nduja?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: What sort of sausage is it?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: It's a bit tritzo-y. It's in the tritzo world. And
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: it's from Italy.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: If we get him.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: We'll call him Bunnings.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's actually good. Well, if we get him in
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: during the AO, we should actually get him to cook
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: some sausages.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: And if we get him in for an interview, we
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: call him Sausage until he corrects us. Yeah.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: But we won't even say last name.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: So we'll just say Sausage. Sausage! But you know what?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, you actually probably, of all people, would understand
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: this more. It's like the Australian accent is kind of
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: like Australians think everyone can kind of understand what they're saying.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: But a lot of people, even English speakers, can't understand.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: If English is your second language, I think you'd be
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: too polite to correct us for a long period of time.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: It's probably until we... So I reckon we could get
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: through 10 minutes of calling him sausage. It's probably not
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: until we reveal the barbecue and hand him a sausage.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: That he goes, by the way, my name is not Sausage.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: The sausage has a little headband on it. Like an
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Adidas logo charred into the side. And we're like, hey, Sausage.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: That's when he might go, hey, guys, come on.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I know. I could see his manager or whoever his
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: handler is just fuming.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Hating it.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Guys, that was weird. Can we lose that?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Lose the sausage.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Lose the sausage thing.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: It's not funny. It's not cool.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: It's disrespectful.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: It's not lame.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: He's got a wife.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Sausage has a wife. And then my other favorite thing
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: with who he was playing, Karen Kashinov. This is absolute disrespect.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Kashinov having to field this question for Magerno a few
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: years back.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Why do you got a girl's name?
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: It's not a girl's name. It's Armenian name.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: It's truly one of the most disrespectful things I've ever seen.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: It's like being in school. It's absolutely how he responded.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Because in school, he would have had bullies and whatever.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: It's like he's prepped. He's so prepped to answer that question.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Well, he went to some tough Russian school, I'm sure.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: And people are like, why do you got a girl's name?
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: And he's like, it's not a girl's name. It's an
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Armenian name.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: He almost should have just like punched the journalist in
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the face or something. Who's the journalist? It's one of
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the great questions I've ever seen. It rules. Especially in
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: like modern sport, sexuality is fluid. Like there's so many
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: parts that that could go down. He's lucky that he
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: got like kind of an Eastern European guy with a
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: bit of like, like bite to him. He's like, it's
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: not a girl's name.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Man. I was walking around my apartment like for days
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: after that, just to myself going, it's not the girl's name.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: It's Armenian name.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's actually perfect. Could you play that again, please?
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Why have you got a girl's name? It's not a
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: girl's name.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: It's an Armenian name.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: It's real Alan Partridge, accidental Partridge.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Well, but it's also antagonistic, obviously.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Dude, it's the craziest question ever. In a press conference,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: like I would do it maybe if we'd gone out
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: and had 15 drinks together. I'd be like, hey, by
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the way, you've got a girl's name. It's pretty funny.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Karen, especially because now it's a cliche. You're a Karen. Totally. Yeah.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Is that what the journalist was potentially trying to do?
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Because otherwise I don't understand what. We're talking about a journalist.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: This guy uses words for his job. And he's like,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: why have you got a girl's name? He knows the answer.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: He knows that it's a context thing from language to language.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: What did he want out of that?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I have no idea. But I just love it. The
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: timing of it is perfect. He's clearly had to say
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: that so many times in his life. It's not a
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: girl's name. It's an Armenian name.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: It's a very beautiful Armenian name.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: So that semifinal, Zverev and Kashinov. Obviously, Zverev taking it
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: out in straight sets. And if you like cross-court backhand battles,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: this was the match for you. Both guys allergic to
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: coming into the net. But, I mean, two of the
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: strongest backhands on tour. Kashinov had some chances, but he
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: was up on Zverev 5-3 in the second set. And
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: he was up 6-4 in the third set tiebreak, but
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Zverev still took it out in straights. Leaning towards the focus,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Varev brought into the final, which we'll get into shortly,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: but Shelton TFO. This was a four-setter, obviously won by Shelton,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: and not a ton to report here. This one kind
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: of annoyed me that Shelton hit 158 mph serve recorded
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: on the radar. What's that? 250.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I think he started. It doesn't know.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: The miles. 254 kilometers.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: That's like one of the most annoying parts of watching
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: like tennis in that, like in America.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: It's seeing the miles. Like, God, I'm like, can we
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: all just get on this? Jesus Christ.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: 254 kilometers an hour, something like that?
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Because it means nothing to me, Miles.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: They could have put a billion up there. I'm like,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it means.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, a billion would look excessive.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Well, it would look good. You'd be like, hell of
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: a serve.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: The ball would go through the other player. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: We'd kill a spectator. The ball probably wouldn't come out
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: very well. No, but do you know what I mean?
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: So how fast is that?
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: 153, 240?
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: 158 miles per.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Hour, 254. 254. Yeah, so they were going, this is
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: the fastest serve in U.S. sub-bundant history hit by Shelton.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: TFO got it back barely, but it was a floater,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: then Shelton just put away the next ball. But then
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the tournament retracted, The reading of the radar that was up,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: and they go, upon further review, it was actually 144
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: miles per hour.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that sucks.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Don't do that.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Is anything real?
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: What, if we can't trust the speed radar in a
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Grand Slam, what are we even doing here?
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is a big, it's good. It's also
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: not like they got it wrong by a mile or
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: a kilometer, if you live in the real world. Like,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that's quite, what, 10, it's almost 10 kilometers they got
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: it wrong by.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. 10 miles, sorry.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a huge mistake. Why wouldn't they just keep
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: their mouth shut?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought. Because then it goes on as
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: officially the fastest in US Open history.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: But who cares? No one, the eye test, no one's
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: going to be like, didn't look too.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Exactly. The third and fourth set was amazing electric tennis
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: between two guys who've obviously played each other many a time.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Shelton's backhand was looking way better but then maybe it
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: was the pace thing TFO was hitting with speed into
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the Shelton backhand And then the match ended on a
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: TFO double fault, which it deserved better than that.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: That sucks.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Yes. But shall we get into the finals proper? Sausage.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Sausage. Sausage.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Buttered sausage.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: So the women's finals, Rebecca Sabalenka, like I said, the
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: head-to-head is now 10-8. Uh, Rebecca, no winning this in
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: the third set, six to not a lot of rallies
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: in this Rebecca hitting clean as she had all tournament, uh,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: just looked like the world. Number one deserves the mantle
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: of the world. Number one and winning this tournament, uh,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: in the second set, Sabaliga had two set points against
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Rebecca and a serve and at five, four Rebecca and
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: a served her way out of it. And then in
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: the third set. Rabakina, of course, ran away with it 6-2.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I was kind of surprised Sabalenka even jagged that second set.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I thought.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: You thought she was going to lay over.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Well, no, I just thought it was just going to
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: be straights for Rabakina.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: But is that because of how well Rabakina's playing or
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: because of this continuation of Sabalenka kind of Not doing
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: as well as she has been previously in big final.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Look, if you told me at the start of the year,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Sabalenka wouldn't be winning a slam, I would find that amazing.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Because I think that would have been the first year
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: since 2022 where Sabalenka doesn't take a slam. And yeah, surprising,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: especially with Rebecca coming into the tournament with a seeming
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Injury to her foot. Hadn't played. She said she hadn't
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: picked up a tennis racket for six days prior to
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: the US Open.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: That was similar to me actually as well.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. When you played the US Open?
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: When I played, no, just this current US Open. Yeah,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't touch a tennis racket for six days beforehand.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, really? Yeah.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: She did better than me, obviously.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: And for the two weeks during.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Two weeks during. No, no, I did. Don't you worry.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Did you?
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I cleaned out the garage at one point. Yeah, so
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I had to pick one up, hit a few balls
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: against the brick wall. But I think it is, I
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: think it's a good point that you were surprised that
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: she took the second because you could just see it
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: going out in straight sets and then obviously the last set,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it just feels like, I think there's
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: like a mental block there maybe for Sabalenka. Taking nothing
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: away from Rebecca now. But like, I don't know. It's
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: like you would be thinking about it. Just being like, God,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: am I going to lose another slam final?
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: And she did. See, the thing is they go, does
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Sabalenka have a grand final plan? Like, is it.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: If we have Australian listeners, is she the Sydney Swans
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: who have lost their last ball they've gone to?
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Or American listeners, the Buffalo Bills.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Ah, the Bills. The Bills. The Bills. But the Bills
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: of the late 80s, 90s, they were a great team.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Great team.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: But that culture, it's now lost. And maybe it's been
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: transferred to Tabalenco.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: But the Bills, four Super Bowls in a row. Sorry
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: to deviate too much.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: But it does inform this, that they get flack for
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: making four Super Bowls And losing, but they also made
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: four Super Bowls. Yeah, I know.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: But this is one of the great moments. I think
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: it's one of the great kind of dichotomies in sport, right?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Because people sometimes remember second place if they're real bad.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Not real bad, but if like they've run towards second
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: place is kind of memorable and they do great. But
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: if you're like a really good player, second place is
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: simply not good enough and you get no credit. for
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: getting there, which is so unfair because it is so
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: hard to not have an off day. I mean, it's
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: arguably harder in tennis than it is in football because football,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: you can have a few losses and bounce back. But
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: like tennis, you've just got to show up. You can't lose.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: You've just got to keep going. And the South Atlantic
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: is getting no credit. Everyone's like, what a bad year.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: She's made slam finals and she just hasn't kind of
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: got it done in the final. And she'll feel that
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: it's a bad year as well.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, definitely. I mean, well, the thing is with
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: the ranking points is kind of like goes to what
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: you're saying is that you have to keep playing to
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: stay in the conversation, like win or lose. You're defending
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: ranking points. You're going for ranking points. I heard someone
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: put the point system in tennis the best way is
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: that you're trying to climb a staircase and the stairs
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: are disappearing behind you.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: It's like that. What's that thing to work on your
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: ass at the gym? You know, the thing that goes up.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: What's it called, Errol? You've got a bit of a booty. Yeah,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: the step machine. That's the world ranking system. Big time.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: You're on there. You've got to keep chasing.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I was alluding to a good metaphor, and
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: then you talked about working on your ass at the gym.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I want to get a bit more of a booty.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of always at the forefront of my brain.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: So Sabalenka now in Grand Slam finals is four and five.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just the wrong side of the ledger. I mean,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: she's got time to bounce back. Well, I guess this
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: is one of the great things about her is that
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: she takes losing well.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: That plate is kind of just chucked down and then the.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Love this. Oh, look at that. They're going to have
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: to redo the floor.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Let it out. I think they must know there's cameras
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: back there. I mean, I don't think it's performative, really,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: but she's just, I mean, we've seen this with other players, like,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: go to the locker room backstage, whatever you want to
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: call it.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Backstage?
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: It is a backstage.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: It's not backstage. It's the locker room.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: It's a green room.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: It's like the gym thing, the warm-up area. It's not
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the green room. There's not a little shitty bar fridge with, like,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: warm beers in there.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: There's that water bottle that you can only get at
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: the Comedy Store. What is that water?
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: That's a deep cut. If you've ever been to any
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: century-run venues and asked for a bottle of water before,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: what is that brand of water?
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: You'll never see that anywhere on the planet.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: It's fallen off a truck multiple times.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: So I looked at other players with a losing Grand
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Slam record. Yvonne Lendl was 8-11. 8-11. Yeah, yeah.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty similar, I guess. But that's the problem.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: You don't get the credit for getting there. Yeah. Like,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, Sabalanka has made nine Grand Slam finals. That's
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: an incredible effort.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you kind of, you've got to be on
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: the winning side of it. I know.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: And she would be, as much as we're talking about it, Like,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: imagine how much more she's thinking about it. Oh, yeah.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, well, so Rebecca is now. So Yvonne Lendl,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: the guy that was beating him in a lot of
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: those slam finals was Boris Becker. Obviously, Agassi didn't tell him.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: The tongue thing. Of course, you keep the tongue thing
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: to yourself.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: You keep it quiet until you write a book 20
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: years later. So Rebecca is now the Boris Becker to Sabalenga,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: stopping her from winning these finals. And then now the
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: conversation following the match, Sabalenka's obviously smashing rackets. She told
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: the cameraman to fuck off. I think it's fine.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I think you just lost one of the biggest... Yeah,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: there she is.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Also, there is some criticism getting thrown at her for
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: being a bad loser or showing the emotion. She cried
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: at the A.O. under the towel, seeing the towel, like the,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you know, sobbing face and just going up and down.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: It kind of, I thought it was great vision. Yeah.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: But like, I mean, it's almost like, what do you
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: want from her? Everyone, she either gets criticized from, I
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: had to criticize her as well from being like, she's
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: too into TikTok. She's making her things. It's like she cares.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: She's smashing rackets. She's getting upset, more visibly upset. If
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: she was just losing the finals and being like, it's
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: good to be here the next day, blah, blah, blah.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Back to social media, you'd be like, well, maybe her
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: heart's not in it. I think she cares.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: She cares.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: She cares more than anyone. She's as competitive as anyone
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And also... I think as long as you show
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: good sportsmanship towards the player who won, which he absolutely did.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I thought the handshake and hug at the net were fine.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I thought her speech after she was overcome with emotion.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: So it cuts to her, because Rebecca not being the
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: most effusive of players, when she won, she just kind
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: of quickly, yeah. I think that's fine. I mean, you know,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: there's not a lot to read. I don't think it
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: was too salty. I think, yeah, she gave Rebecca her dues.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Well, what could she have... Okay, as you say that,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: she's just smashing her racket.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Look, I think you're right. I don't think she's disrespectful.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: And tennis does have these traditions, so people are probably
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: going to judge it harder than... Yeah. Then maybe if
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: you lose a Super Bowl or maybe a grand final
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: in football or the World Cup, it's like you can,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know, be more salty. Whereas in tennis, you're
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: supposed to be very, it's that old school gentleman. Individualistic.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: And like you shake hands and you're like, well, sport
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: is the real winner or whatever it is. But it's
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: also like it's big business and she wants to, she's
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: upset that she lost. And it is still, it's still
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: box office if you ask me. She wasn't, she wasn't
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: offensive to Rabakina. She shook her hand, gave her a hug,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: smashed the racket. You get the best of both worlds, really. Yeah.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: And, I mean, it's a bizarre thing in tennis that
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: you've got to give speeches if you lose afterwards.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: And then also now this handing the check over on
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: the stage in front.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Of the losing player. I don't like this, by the way.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Do we have this picture? This is Rebecca holding the
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: $ 5. 5 million check in front of Sabalenka, who's standing behind
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: her with.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I don't like it. I mean. Look at it. It's
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: so soft. Also, it's like the optics of it is
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: like you get a plate, which you're like, what am I?
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I guess she has a trophy cabinet. But at the time,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: it's like, I don't want to hold a plate.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're putting your keys on that plate when
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: you get home.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be some kind of weird.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: It's like you're not eating off it. That's for sure.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: It's really just kind of a weird plate you have.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: That's on the credenza when you. Open your door to
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: get home and you throw the keys on there.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: You throw it on there and you just then dive
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: onto the couch.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe there's some mints.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Some mints. But also, can I say, I don't like...
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Are we past the novelty check? Do you know what
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I mean? Whatever happened to the huge novelty check?
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: You don't like a regular size check?
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I don't like a normal, like an envelope with like...
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Like someone's like you've done, like you've mowed the neighbor's
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: lawn when you're 13 and they hand you, give me
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: a big novelty check. And then they've written in text
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: to the price on it or something. Like you've just
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: won big.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: True.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Like you've won a holiday on sunrise or something.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: What was that tournament earlier on where they brought a
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: massive phone instead of a novelty check out to the court?
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: And then they No I can get around that And
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: they showed What the live transfer They showed him.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: The bank transfer The money into the player's account.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: That's so funny But that's like Who is the The
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: player's like Running by the mafia It's like I'm not
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: leaving the course Till the money's in my bank account
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah let me see it Yeah yeah yeah I got
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: a check I don't like the little check I like
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: big checks I actually like the transfer Much more Yeah
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: But also the money thing is Can I say The
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: money thing is Untennis To me Yes I know money
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: is a big part of tennis And You know, equal
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: pay parity has been a huge talking point. It's great
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: that the women make as much as men. But do
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: we have to bring the check out? Everyone knows that
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: they're rich. Can we just not be like, they won
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the tournament.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Do that discreetly.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Is anyone being like, I need to see them get
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: another $ 5 million. I make $ 70, 000 a year and it
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: would only make me happy knowing that they've got another
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: $ 5 million in their sweet little hand or bank account
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Even the person who had to get the check and
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: put it in the envelope.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: They're getting paid $ 25 on a casual rate. So, Rebecca
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: is the US Open Championship. I think she eventually gets
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: the calendar slam and takes out the French.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Which, you know, is a huge rarity. And I think she... Actually,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: there was this... Because weird to think that Sinner doesn't
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: have the calendar slam yet, right?
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: And there are a few players that you wouldn't expect
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: don't have the calendar slam. Shavontech needs the AO. Rebecca,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: as we said, needs the French. Sinner needs the French.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Sabalenka still needs the French and Wimbledon. And Goff hasn't
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: won the AO or Wimbledon. So I think out of
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: all those players, it's clearly Sinner who takes a calendar
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: slam first.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: He's also got time on his hand. And I think
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: if you look at levels, he's clearly... If he can
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: get a good run and maybe, you know, it's a
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: kind of a cooler European summer. Yeah. I feel like
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: he'll do it pretty easy.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Not easy, obviously, but like, I think he's got a
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: great shot at it.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think he and Rebecca are next on
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: the calendar slam list, unless Shvantec.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I like Shvantec.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Taking the AO. I like that.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: That's a great, she's coming into a bit of form.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Bit of an off season.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I'll get behind it.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Talk about buttered sausage, where it comes from, what it does.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Why is it doing what it's doing?
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Get it out of my face.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: In the Zverev vs. Shelton men's final, looks like Andy
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Roddick will hold his title as the only American man
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: since 2003 to win the U.S. Open.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Would he be excited? I'm like, would you want to
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: hold on to that record?
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: He is on record as saying he absolutely wants... It gone.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: He wants another guy to win it.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: But I know that, but I often think, and maybe
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: the American record specifically is like, is, is different because
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: you want your country to be doing well and it's
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: probably better for him in the long run as a
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: tennis personality.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: But like, it would, when you see athletes say they
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: want their records broken, do you think they mean it?
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Deep down? Probably not.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't. No. There was a funny moment backstage with, backstage.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: It is backstage.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: It's all a performance. It's all fake.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, OC kept calling the crowd the audience. Maybe
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: that's in my head. The audience. Where Serena and Andy
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Roddick were in the halls of the US Open. And
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: they have all the players who've won it and the
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: year they've won it.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: And Roddick points at his name and he goes, look,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: it's just got 2003 under there. And Serena goes, yeah,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: they ran out of space on mine. That's good stuff. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: That's why they train so hard, so they can have
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: those little moments about like... I do love those little
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: moments when they... Athletes that have achieved greatness, like goat-level athletes,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: when you just... And they're always so polite and humble
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and they're media trained. When you just see these little...
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: egotistical things.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Slip through and it's so good oh so good.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: When they're just like yeah well i'm better than.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Everyone else it's great yeah uh which is why the
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: last dance with jordan is.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Totally amazing totally because.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: You're just seeing him unfiltered like.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: And a psychopath.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, psycho. Totally. So, like I said before, Zverev said
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Alcaraz and TFO should have just slow played Ben to
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: his backhand.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Courier called Zverev an error extraction machine.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Which is basically like so slow to his backhand. And
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: then because he's playing a lefty, if Shelton hit it
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: cross court, Zverev could just rip one down the line.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: So he would just wait for that ball. And then
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: would just rip a forehand down the line.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Do you think Shelton didn't have a game plan? You've
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: got to think something like that. His coaches thought about
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: it and chatted about it. But I guess another thing
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: is doing it at arguably the biggest stage in tennis.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Of course. And also, I mean, both huge servers. This match,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: to me, was kind of a serve bot match. Like
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: two guys just bombing serves.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Banging it.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: At each other, and Zverev winning, I think, 85% behind
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: his first serve.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: It's a 5%.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean, it was just, there were some
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: good rallies, but it went quick for a 4-7 match. Yeah.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Because a lot of points won, obviously, on serve, and
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: I think Zverev, you know, just was obviously in some
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: kind of a zone, because when he won, he didn't
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: know it. He didn't know he won.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Here we go. All right.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: So this is a match. Championship points. Very routinely just
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: hitting the ball back to the ball kid. Walking away.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Looks at his box. Oh, I won.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Now... What's your... I'll tell you who knows that the
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: match is over. Shelton. Oh, yeah.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: He's aware.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: What's your take on this? Because I.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of reminds me of when I'm
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: playing pickleball and I'm like, what's the score again? But
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: that is impossible to me that you couldn't know that
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: you're on match point of a Grand Slam.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: You're about to get to the pinnacle of the mountain.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: That's what you've trained your whole life for. You're about
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: to do it. I mean, he's probably got a sports
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: psychologist that talks about you play each point on its merits,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff. I refuse to believe you
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: could be on Matchpoint and not know the gravity of it.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Neil Armstrong before he steps out on
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: the moon going, where are we?
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, where did you take me?
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Wait, where are we?
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: What happened here? Is Sizzler out there? Yeah, yeah.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: What do you reckon?
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Sizzler.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm off to kind of a buffet.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: But it's true. I still remember the scores of ping
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: pong matches I played when I was 15. Yeah.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And it's also like you,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: the point, I don't like, if he didn't know, I
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: don't like that because that's almost seems like an unfair advantage.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Because part of winning is you've got to feel it.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: You've got to feel the pressure. That's part of the
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: things you have to battle through. Like, has he found
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: a hack where he can just, like, get lobotomized for
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: a second and become a tennis robot and be like,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: tennis is ball.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: And then the pressure doesn't affect you.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Well, because he said he thought then the score was
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: 5-1 and then Shelton would serve again and then he
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: was going to tighten up when he was serving for
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: the match.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: So he's the luckiest guy of all time.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I guess it worked out in his favor. I mean,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: his acting is pretty good if he just like.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you... All right.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Well, this, if we go into conspiracy, it's like he
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: wants to endear himself to a hostile crowd that's going
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: for Shelton and the tennis world in general. And so
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: was it a ploy to be like, whoa, whoa, I'm so.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Whoa, look at me. I'm like, this is crazy. I
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: just woke up here and I'm like winning a Grand Slam?
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: What the hell, dude? You think he's trying to be like,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: this is what 16-year-old boys try to do to pick
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: up girls at school. They're like, what? This is crazy.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what. I'm in my arms around
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: you at the movies. This is insane. Like, come on.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: This guy, I just don't think he can be. I
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: don't think he can be. I think maybe he is
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: faking it, actually, because I don't think you could not
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: know that it's a match point. I think it. you
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: spend your entire, all you do is tennis.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: From such a young age, all you think is points.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: You could be, you would understand, like, I just, it
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: boggles the mind to think you couldn't.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: And I mean, every point does have a different feeling,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: depending on scoreboard pressure. Totally. And depending on atmosphere and
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: where you are. And the don't know you're about to
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: take your second Grand Slam of the year.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, also, it's like, as we were talking before,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: it's like, he's not in, at least in my opinion,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: a crossover star yet.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have the appeal of like, You know, you
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: think of like the Williams sisters or these players that
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: go beyond just the tennis world. He's definitely huge in
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: the tennis world, as big as you could be, but
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: he hasn't crossed over. Moments like this, if he's got
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: a PR team being like, being like, hey, act like
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: you don't know you won.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it is kind of charming. And the
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: fact that it worked out in his favor is crazy.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I thought it was 5-1. I knew it.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I knew that I had broken twice.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I knew that I had broken twice, but I thought.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: He only held once. So it's 5-1, okay. I'm going
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: to have a relaxed service game here, and then I'm
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: going to get tight on the next one. Well, also
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: the crowd reacting like it's the end of the match.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Like he just held a service game, and then the
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: crowd going nuts.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: The crowd went crazy. Everyone stands up.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: So what's he thinking? Like, wow, people really love that
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: I just held serve again.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: While the crowd is like cheering and they're like, oh,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: it's all over.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah. I mean, it's classic sausage behavior.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Sausage.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Classic sausage stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why we love sausage.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: You might say he snagged victory. Oh.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Buttered sausage.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: So that is the end of the U.S. Open for
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: another year. Coming up, we have the Asian Hardcourt Swing,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: the Davis Cup, the Lever Cup. The tennis never sleeps.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Never sleeps.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just like New York. So, but before we wrap
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: up the episode, let's get Physical? Physical.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Physical.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Approaching the net.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I'd like to kick it off with you. Do you
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: have a car? You don't own a car, do you?
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: I do own a car. Do you? I drove it
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: here today. Oh, okay.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I always see you on one of those little motorized scooters.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: I usually do the recumbent bicycle where you're like lying down. Yes. Yes.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Well, you know when your car gets dirty sometimes. Maybe
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: there's a big storm, a dust storm, and you've got
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: to get it cleaned. But sometimes people have fun. They'll
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: draw little fun little things on the windows of your car.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's usually rude. It's very rude.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a love heart, which I actually like.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: I don't get the love heart. Yeah, okay.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: You get something else. Well, some hero has done– this
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: actually rules. They've done– I assume they're an amazing artist.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: In the dust on the back of a dirty car
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: has done a portrait of Rabakina. Look at this. This
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: is unbelievable.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: This actually has restored my– look at how good– look
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: at the detail in this.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's amazing.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: That's incredible.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: And think about how high pressure that is. Because if
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: you breathe slightly too hard.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: It's all gone. It's gone. I mean, a slight drizzle
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: takes it out. Yeah, yeah.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: If the rain comes.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, or just if someone comes
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: over and says, how are you going? Then leans on
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: your car. Yeah.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: So this is obviously a Kazakhstani clip. It's got the
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: music over it.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: The music does add a lot to it. I just
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: think it's like, I'm not saying it's a waste of time.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Is there a speech bubble coming out of it that says.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing. The detail in the hair.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: It does look good.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's impressive, but ultimately it's for nothing. But
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: it's actually a great metaphor for life because you're only
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: great in the moment. Yeah. And it disappears.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: And you've got to keep it going.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Beautiful stuff.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: That's very nice, isn't it? Now, New York, it's the
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: celebrity capital of the goddamn world. Alex Yala, she was
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: at a fashion show in New York. She stepped out
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: on the red carpet. You were going to love it.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Look at this. Wow. Looks fantastic.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: What do you think of the gloves, the double glove combo?
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: The glove is a bit, let's say, 2020. OJ. OJ,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: of course. If the glove don't fit, you must acquit.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: She looks great. The thing is, she's struggling on the
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: cobblestones in those shoes.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: She's really... Because we know elite athletes, their kinesthetic intelligence
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: is huge. But she is not comfortable walking. No. But
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: she looks amazing.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, she looks amazing. And, you know, because it's
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: New York, it's not just fashion shows. All the celebs
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: turn up at the tennis, which I love.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: And.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: As no surprise, there was a lot of them at
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: this year's US Open. A-list. As A-list as they go.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: We're going to run through some of them here.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe not so.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I've kind of been thrown under the bus immediately there
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: with the switching. But that is a beautiful action shot.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Rami Malek. Am I saying that right?
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, and he's an interesting actor. The roles he chooses
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: to play are quite dark and uncomfortable.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Freddie Mercury, yes. Ben Stiller.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Loves it. He's a mainstay at tennis matches.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Sitting with Jalen Brunson.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Pretty cool.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And Brunson, who, you know, obviously just won for
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: the New York Knicks.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: We've got... Tate McRae. Tate McRae, the partner of Australian.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's Tate McRae.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Tate.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Tate McRae.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Tate McRae, partner of Kid Leroy, I believe, if they're
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: still together, which is exciting.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Who else?
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Bezos. Bezos.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Is he an A-lister? He owns the A-listers.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: I hate these, like, capitalists that are made billions off
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: the sweat of others.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: And then they get to be famous as well. What
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: do we do? It's disgusting.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, Paris Hilton with generic white man.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Incredible. And one that I very much liked, and I
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: saw this during the rounds online, was Brad Pitt.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Yes. Look at this.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: There he is, enjoying himself.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Having a great time. Now, this clip went very viral.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Because, and I didn't read, this came to me organically.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Did it?
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: But there's a comedian out there called Mike Goldstein.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's good.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: And he likes tennis. He likes tennis. Which is a
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: lot of tennis.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: A lot.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Almost to the detriment of his relationship, according to his wife.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: And all his friendships.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: And all his friendships. But he put this up and said,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I know what he's saying there.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I said that. i did do that i that's my
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: clip that's my.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: House that's your house yeah and it's gone very how
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: many views we have it's over 20 million.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Views this one was like 20 million and then i
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: was like yeah and then i was like i gotta
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: repost it with the voiceover i was like because i
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: enhanced the footage yeah where you can actually hear what brad.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Pitt and i think do we have it here.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Hopefully so brad pitt brad pitt brad pitt brad pitt
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: brad pitt.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing It's art. That is art.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: That is the most viral thing I've ever done.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: So you've been a comedian. How long have you been
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: a comedian for?
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: 20 years.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: And so that video is the most success you've ever had.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: That's me winning the US Open.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: So you go at the end. Yeah. That's the cherry
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: on the cake. That's a career's work. They made that
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: video there. 20 million views.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: I could craft all my stand-up jokes. I could be
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: on national TV for years, but this is what I'll
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: be remembered for.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful. And just very, very, this is
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: very quickly. I know we were talking the other week
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: about you being in the Novak documentary.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, another huge moment.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Another huge moment. I hate to be a one-upper, but
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: the other night I was watching a little something on
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: the couch with my partner, and yeah, look, I don't
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: know how else to say this, but I'm in something
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: more important with an athlete that will be remembered for,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: you know, doing far greater things than Novak. I'm in
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: the Ray Gunn documentary. Look at this.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Look at this.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: So this is, there's Ray Gunn. And look who's sitting
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: next to Ray Gunn.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, was that? It?
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, Ray Gunn is the.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, watch it again.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait. Look to her.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: We go to the wide shot. Look at that.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: There's you right there.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: There's me sitting next to her.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Is that you? It says... It's got captions. Did you
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: call her the legend herself?
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: No, that wasn't me. That wasn't me. I do remember, though,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: they played a video of me dancing in front of her.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: And she said, you're a bad dancer. Isn't that crazy?
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, but she is an icon. She is the
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Novak Djokovic of breakdancing. Female breakdancing.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I think you'd say the goat, absolutely.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, yeah, you've absolutely one-upped me there.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and I'm sorry to do it, but
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: you kind of can't let these moments slip. So that
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: was Approaching the Net.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Hey! Yeah, 100%.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Now, I mean, before we get out of here, there's
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: one last thing I think we probably should talk about.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Controversy?
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, this whole sports Sweeney situation. What's your
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: take on it?
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, the Sweeney thing. Everyone's talking about it.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about it.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: A lot of threads and tweets and a lot of conversation.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll be interested to hear your take on it.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Okay. So my personal opinion on the Sweeney thing, I'm
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: willing to go on record.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Because that's kind of the way I thought as well.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: And I know a lot of other people have been
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: saying different things and bringing in different arguments around sport
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: and the way we consume sport and athletes. But I
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: think it was.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: awesome pretty good i can't stop looking at it i
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: saw it and i was like wow.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: I know wow my mouth opened i was like oh
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: my god i ran to my my girlfriend yeah and
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: she didn't care weirdly but i was like this was
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: the best thing i've ever seen in sports yeah yeah
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: yeah i.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Mean i didn't chill my wife because i was like
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: this is for.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Me yeah that's your personal stuff yeah Anyway, well done
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: to Dane Sweeney. So 109th in the world. That's his
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: world ranking. Hell yes. Unbelievable.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Big round of applause.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: The great man. Well done.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Why is it doing what it's doing?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Get it out of my face.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: So that is the end of the Grand Slam season.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Like I said, we got the Asian Hardcourt Swing coming up.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: 1,000 events, 500 events, 250s, Lever Cup. Obviously, the Davis
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Cup is going to be red hot. And so we'll
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: be back every week in the lead up to the
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: big one, the A.O.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Keep listening. Do you want to sing this song to end?
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: So, just really quick, let's dip in on Tennis FM.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: The big hit of the week, Robbie Williams. And through
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: it all, he offers us protection.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Tennis-themed love and affection. Whether we're right or wrong.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Back from 30.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, wherever his bounces take me. I know that he
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: won't break me. Ben Shelton will take the fall.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: Even though he's got Trinity.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: We're loving sausage instead. Sausage instead.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: We did it. All right, I got to go. I
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: got to go. That was awesome.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Please give some love to the baby.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Love to the baby.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Love to the baby.