Latest / Brandon Fogal Evolution / #110 - What Happened to Shedeur Sanders was the Tim Tebow Effect

Transcript

#110 - What Happened to Shedeur Sanders was the Tim Tebow Effect · Brandon Fogal Evolution

• 0:00
  So Shadur Sanders fell to the fifth round in the 2025 NFL Draft, fell to the 144th pick.
• 0:09
  This might be the best thing that could have possibly happened to him,
• 0:13
  but it could also turn out to the worst thing that could possibly have happened to him.
• 0:17
  And I would say that this reminds me of the Tim Tebow effect of the NFL.
• 0:23
  My name is Brandon Fogle. This is Evolution. I'm going to dive into this topic.
• 0:28
  And this is probably a different perspective than you've even thought about.
• 0:31
  But over a decade ago, Tim Tebow came into the NFL and he was somebody came
• 0:37
  into a league that was kind of ready for him, but did not at all know or understand
• 0:43
  what was about to come upon them.
• 0:45
  Tim Tebow, if you remember, it was Tebow mania and it had to do with it came
• 0:51
  in and his fans were just diehard fans,
• 0:54
  and they really pushed the organizations that Tim Tebow came to and were just
• 1:00
  get him on the field, get him on the field constantly.
• 1:04
  And the people in the NFL, they don't like to be told what to do.
• 1:09
  And unless you're an owner, because everyone else in the organizations of the
• 1:13
  NFL, whatever team that you find yourself on, the only person that really owns the team is the owner.
• 1:21
  And people that are just GMs, coaches, whatever, they have a job and they want to protect their job.
• 1:29
  They have a very short time frame that they're guaranteed to even be on the team.
• 1:34
  So they are very conservative with who they want to put on the field and they
• 1:38
  want to be able to have players that they can kind of control,
• 1:42
  kind of control and people that aren't going to bring crazy attention to them
• 1:47
  and put them under the microscope.
• 1:50
  Tim Tebow did that exact thing to the teams that he came to.
• 1:54
  And what Shadou or Sanders, whether you like him or hate him,
• 1:58
  I don't see how you could hate him, but whether you like him or hate him,
• 2:01
  he has brought so much attention on himself that he has put a lot of teams in a bad spot,
• 2:08
  and that is the only thing that can make sense of what happened,
• 2:11
  because the player himself, I would not go the route of saying this has any racial undertones.
• 2:17
  This is not about race whatsoever.
• 2:20
  Skip Bayless, I saw that he had this take that was the only explanation that
• 2:25
  he could fall to where he fell was race. And that does not make sense at all to me.
• 2:31
  A majority of the people in the NFL are black.
• 2:35
  So I don't understand why that would have anything to do with it at all.
• 2:39
  It's about the coaches that are on these teams. They did not want to be put under such scrutiny.
• 2:46
  And the players that he would be influencing as he walked into a locker room,
• 2:51
  they're not going to play that.
• 2:53
  They don't care who your dad is. They don't care, you know, how much bravado you have.
• 2:58
  You got to perform on the field and that, but the only thing about Tim Tebow
• 3:03
  himself, when he was in the field, like in the NFL, he actually performed on
• 3:08
  the field. He played, he won games.
• 3:10
  You know, that that's the people don't like that. He won.
• 3:13
  He didn't do it as the most normal way of doing it as a just prototype quarterback, but he won.
• 3:22
  And so, Shadur Sanders, if he wants to follow in the steps of Tim Tebow, he's in good company.
• 3:29
  He's in good company in the sense that he is going to get attention.
• 3:33
  He is going to get crazy attention. So, I don't know if he wants to take it
• 3:36
  the way of just getting attention or if he wants to win games and have a deep
• 3:41
  impact in the NFL and have a long career.
• 3:44
  Tim Tebow's career was cut way too short, way too short.
• 3:49
  And so, I don't know. Now, I can't get inside Shadour's head,
• 3:53
  but I would say this could be an amazing thing that could have happened to him
• 3:57
  because this is going to humble him greatly.
• 3:59
  And he's not going to go to a team that is going to be putting a,
• 4:03
  they're not going to be under fire to get him on the field because he's a fifth round quarterback.
• 4:08
  So the Browns got an amazing, amazing deal out of this.
• 4:12
  And the only reason they got this deal was because the owner himself said, go out and grab him.
• 4:18
  Go out and grab him. We cannot let this go on any further.
• 4:21
  This guy, he should have been a first round draft pick.
• 4:25
  Tim Tebow was a first round draft pick. This guy should have been a first round draft pick.
• 4:29
  But it's the guys that are pulling the strings, the guys that are just cranking
• 4:34
  up and down the dials and all that kind of stuff.
• 4:36
  The people that are just down below that are making these decisions,
• 4:40
  they don't want to be on the hot seat.
• 4:41
  They want to have a secure job that they can actually go out and them determine
• 4:47
  whether they win or lose, they would be taking a huge gamble and taking Shadur.
• 4:55
  That's why it had to come from the owner. The owner had to say,
• 4:58
  step in and say, take this guy.
• 4:59
  This, because owners want people in the seats, people that like.
• 5:04
  That are going to draw eyes to their team, jersey sales, all that,
• 5:09
  because the eyes are going to be on the Browns this year because they got this steal of a draft pick.
• 5:15
  I cannot believe that he fell this far. This is insane.
• 5:18
  And there were so many different things that happened in the draft.
• 5:22
  And I would say this was the draft of Shadour Sanders because he was the talk.
• 5:27
  And every day, every draft pick that happened and he didn't get selected,
• 5:30
  it was a crime against football players.
• 5:35
  It had nothing to do with race, but it had to do a crime against these guys
• 5:39
  that are just pulling the strings that are in these organizations, these coaches.
• 5:43
  They want to have a steady, secure job. They don't want to take the chance of
• 5:48
  getting lightning in a bottle, which is Shadur Sanders.
• 5:51
  Shadur Sanders, he's going to bring heat. He's going to bring the spotlight.
• 5:55
  He would have brought prime time. And that's why, call me crazy if you like.
• 6:01
  I think, and I would have liked the Kansas City Chiefs to have snatched Shadour.
• 6:06
  I wish they would have grabbed him. And that seems blasphemous because of we
• 6:11
  got Patrick Mahomes. And I get that.
• 6:14
  But I want prime time. I want him in our locker room. That would, it would be fun.
• 6:20
  And Andy Reid, he is strong enough that he could keep the team together.
• 6:24
  Patrick Mahomes is the epitome of just saying the right things,
• 6:29
  doing the right things. He has the awareness that eclipses Tom Brady.
• 6:34
  Patrick Mahomes has the awareness that eclipses Tom Brady.
• 6:37
  So he would have been able to take, you know.
• 6:40
  Throw Shadour in there for some, you know, trick plays, you know,
• 6:44
  use him in maybe different positions, you know, as he gets his feet under him,
• 6:48
  as he starts learning the game and let him learn under Patrick Mahomes, you know,
• 6:52
  you know, he could be a player that could do just these crazy plays that Andrew
• 6:57
  could have thrown him in there.
• 6:59
  They could be throwing it out to the wide receiver and the wide receiver throwing
• 7:02
  it across the field. They would have, it would have been fun.
• 7:05
  It would have been absolutely fun. They should have grabbed him.
• 7:08
  I think the chief should have grabbed him. That might seem ludicrous,
• 7:10
  but it's not. It would have been the real deal and it would have been so fun.
• 7:14
  I, and I, I'm upset that he went to the Browns and I'm sure,
• 7:19
  I'm sure he's upset, you know, but this could be great for him.
• 7:22
  And then there was the whole prank call that just put the icing on the cake,
• 7:26
  you know, the cherry on top, which will go down, which those guys,
• 7:30
  man, that was, that was cold.
• 7:33
  That was so cold what they did and they, they got attention.
• 7:37
  They got attention for it. You know, it was just crazy.
• 7:41
  Could it have been another player? Could it have been another team that was just tricking them?
• 7:45
  But then the tape came out that these guys from Ole Miss, these looks like college
• 7:49
  students, just made him.
• 7:52
  Why do you got to rain on someone's parade that much? That was just,
• 7:55
  I thought that was way below the belt what they did.
• 7:58
  I don't think they thought they would have got through.
• 8:01
  They're making a call. They didn't think in their wildest dreams that Shadour,
• 8:05
  they would have got to him and
• 8:06
  actually have been able to have him on the phone and that that happened.
• 8:10
  Man, you opened up a whole can, you know, who knows what you,
• 8:13
  what you brought on yourself, somebody's doing that, but you know, be fearless.
• 8:17
  I mean, these guys, I guess they're fearless, you know, cause they put themselves
• 8:20
  in a terrible spot, you know, but I'd say be fearless, but that was uncalled for.
• 8:26
  That was way uncalled for what they did, but I would say this could be the best
• 8:29
  thing for Shadour cause this is going to humble him and where he's going.
• 8:33
  He could go off the deep end.
• 8:35
  If, if he does something that is crazy outlandish.
• 8:38
  He could go off the deep end and it could be terrible, but I think it could
• 8:41
  be, and it will be the best thing for him because he's going to go there and
• 8:44
  he's going to have to learn the ropes and not just go in with such arrogance.
• 8:50
  If he has, if he has arrogance, I don't know his heart.
• 8:53
  Dion, he's a man of faith. He's a man of faith. And I would say Shadur,
• 8:57
  learning from his father, they got to take the faith route, the faith route.
• 9:02
  You know, don't try to don't try to bring crazy
• 9:05
  attention to yourself unneeded attention you know go in there learn it but don't
• 9:10
  become just hum dumb just that doesn't bring fun to the game you know i like
• 9:17
  guys that are going to bring fun and bring eyes to the to your team you know it's not about just.
• 9:23
  Winning winning winning you know like win with fun and electricity you know
• 9:28
  and that's what Dewar Sanders, I think can do.
• 9:31
  And this will be the best thing that could have happened to him.
• 9:33
  But, all right, we'll leave it at that. Peace, everyone.