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146: The Incredible Shrinking Episode · Movie Meltdown

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Speaker 1: To provide more cooling in the containment chamber.
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Speaker 4: To your station, gypsy. We have a review now.
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Speaker 1: Who is this lady you have shrunk?
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Speaker 5: Was she the owner of this house that you camp
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Speaker 5: in front of? No.
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Speaker 6: There's a couple more.
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Speaker 3: Child's dolls.
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Speaker 5: Do not try shrink me, gypsy.
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Speaker 6: I serious.
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Speaker 7: Way down among Brazilians Coffee beans grow by the billions
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Speaker 7: So they've got to find those extra cups to fill
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Speaker 7: They got an awful lot of coffee in Brazil.
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Speaker 6: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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Speaker 8: I'm Marlena.
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Speaker 9: I'm Fred.
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Speaker 6: I'm Greg. And we're back with another episode of The
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Speaker 6: Caffeinated Movie Geek.
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Speaker 1: Cappuccino my butt. I still drink coffee.
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Speaker 8: The last fucking thing you need is another cup of coffee.
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Speaker 1: It's time for The Caffeinated Movie Geek.
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Speaker 6: We're coming to you live via digital recording from Nancy's
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Speaker 6: Bagel Grounds. And we'll get together, have coffee, as we
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Speaker 6: are right now, and talk movies. So, Marlena, I ask you,
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Speaker 6: what blend of coffee are we drinking this week?
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Speaker 8: Pacific Blacktail.
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Speaker 6: Yes, this is our new blend of coffee. I hate
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Speaker 6: to admit.
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Speaker 8: This, but all coffee just tastes the same to me,
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Speaker 8: unless it has, like, special stuff in it. Like, blend
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Speaker 8: to blend, it tastes the same. I'm not a coffee connoisseur.
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Speaker 1: I guess. You have to, like, palpate the bouquet. I guess.
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Speaker 10: Yes.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're just swilling it down, yeah.
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Speaker 6: It's just... Bad coffee's bad.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: There's a difference there. I think within those, there's a
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Speaker 6: different level. But yeah, when you get bad coffee, you
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Speaker 6: know you got bad coffee.
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Speaker 8: I mean, bad coffee, old coffee, strong coffee, weak coffee,
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Speaker 8: and then flavored coffee. Those are my... That's my palate
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Speaker 8: right there.
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 8: I don't... I couldn't taste something and be like, oh,
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Speaker 8: this is a fine Colombian blend. I don't know the difference.
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Speaker 3: And I don't want to sound like a connoisseur, but
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Speaker 3: bad coffee or cheap coffee, sometimes it hurts my stomach.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, or sour. You have a
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Speaker 1: more evolved digestive system.
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Speaker 8: It's the acid.
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Speaker 1: Europeans, they roast the beans differently, so you can drink
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Speaker 1: much stronger coffee and it doesn't make you sick. But
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Speaker 1: they say what you can do with American roasted coffee is, like,
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Speaker 1: save eggshells and put them in the grounds, and it
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Speaker 1: absorbs the excess acid.
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Speaker 8: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 1: Because it's the calcium carbonate.
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Speaker 6: Pretty sneaky, sis.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Well, if you want to know, this blend is Colombian medium.
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Speaker 6: It's got some montran and a brush of Colombian dark. So,
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Speaker 6: there you go.
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Speaker 1: It's like we're doing a little gourmet coffee show on PBS.
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Speaker 1: I feel like we should. Use those hushed tones.
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Speaker 12: We are.
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Speaker 6: That's why we're.
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Speaker 13: The Caffeinated Movie Geek.
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Speaker 6: Thank you for tuning in for another episode. Now we're
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Speaker 6: going to say something obnoxious and insulting to everyone. So, Marlena,
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Speaker 6: I know you've got some sort of crazy stories.
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Speaker 14: Yes.
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Speaker 6: Is it time for the moment?
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Speaker 8: I think so.
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Speaker 11: I want to take a drink so I don't take
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Speaker 11: a spit take.
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Speaker 6: You need to.
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Speaker 8: Because I'm going to do the voice.
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Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 6: Nobody drink during this. And now it's time for a
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Speaker 6: Marlena moment.
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Speaker 8: Okay, so Friday night I was at this bar down
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Speaker 8: the street from my house called Third Base.
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Speaker 6: Classy right there.
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Speaker 8: Referencing this really confuses people. If you're like, are you
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Speaker 8: going to go to Third Base? And they're like, with who?
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Speaker 8: And I'm like, with Joe.
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Speaker 6: And they're like, no. Oh, the bar.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, we might do that later. It's really not that funny,
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Speaker 8: but first time If someone's genuinely confused about it, it
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Speaker 8: is funny.
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Speaker 6: Nice.
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Speaker 8: But anyway.
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Speaker 13: Newbies.
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Speaker 8: God. That's not the story. So I met up with
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Speaker 8: my friend Jeremy, Joe, Jessica, and Phillip there. And I
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Speaker 8: was hungry when I got to the bar. And they
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Speaker 8: have jello shots. And I'm not very good at drinking,
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Speaker 8: so I like to get the Jell-O shots because I
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Speaker 8: figure that's two birds, one stone. I eat the Jell-O shots,
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Speaker 8: I'm not hungry, and I also get drunk. So it's like,
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Speaker 8: it's a great value. So we're sitting there, and I'm
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Speaker 8: eating a Jell-O shot, and it sticks to the lid,
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Speaker 8: and I'm trying to eat it, and like half of
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Speaker 8: it falls out of my mouth. And Joe makes this
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Speaker 8: joke about it being snot or something disgusting. So I
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Speaker 8: get up to spit it into the garbage can because I'm, like,
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Speaker 8: choking on it, and I'm not going to be able
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Speaker 8: to swallow it. And I try to get off the bench,
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Speaker 8: and I start tripping. And I'm, like, tripping and spitting
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Speaker 8: to the garbage can, and they're laughing hysterically. And this
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Speaker 8: lady who was around the corner who we'd only heard
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Speaker 8: because she was, like, having a domestic dispute with her boyfriend,
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Speaker 8: she comes up, and she's like, hey, what's funny? Because
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Speaker 8: she thought we were laughing at her in this, like, ruff. Like,
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Speaker 8: I've been drinking whiskey and smoking cigarettes for the last
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Speaker 8: 50 years of my life kind of voice.
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Speaker 6: So your mom was there?
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 15: Oh, no.
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Speaker 8: No, that's what Jessica was like, is that your mom
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Speaker 8: over there? And I was like, no.
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Speaker 6: It sounded like a yo mama joke, but I was
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Speaker 6: being legit. Yeah, no. No.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's funny that you mention that, because Jessica thought
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Speaker 8: it was my mom, but it wasn't. She came up.
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Speaker 8: And she's just, she kept saying that over. She's like,
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Speaker 8: what's so funny?
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Speaker 6: What's so funny?
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Speaker 9: And.
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Speaker 8: We're all kind of like deer in headlights because this
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Speaker 8: disgusting woman, she was in her 50s or she had
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Speaker 8: an extremely hard life or both. But she has this
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Speaker 8: like half shirt on and this like spare tire, which
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Speaker 8: is like 30 years of beer drinking and cellulite. And she's, like,
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Speaker 8: leaning over Philip, who is, like, extremely uncomfortable. And she's like,
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Speaker 8: what's so fucking funny? Do you think it's funny that
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Speaker 8: I'm going to go to jail now? Apparently she got
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Speaker 8: kicked out. And she can't, like, imagine that it was
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Speaker 8: her fault. But apparently this is what she said. She's like,
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Speaker 8: do you think it's funny that I'm getting kicked out
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Speaker 8: for singing a Christian song? Which I think was supposed
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Speaker 8: to be Christian. We're worried this woman's going to knife us.
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Speaker 8: And it's like, we're trying not to laugh, and we
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Speaker 8: all kind of had this, like, shocked and horrified look
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Speaker 8: on her face. And none of us can think of
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Speaker 8: anything witty to say. And she's, like, sitting, she's standing
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Speaker 8: directly next to me, so I don't want to, like,
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Speaker 8: piss her off because she could kill me or something.
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Speaker 16: I don't know.
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Speaker 8: Then she goes, Do you think it's funny that I'm
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Speaker 8: going to go to jail because I believe in the
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Speaker 8: Lord Jesus Christ? And we fucking lose it. Jessica chokes
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Speaker 8: on her beer. I've got my face buried in Jeremy's arm.
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Speaker 1: And I'm dying.
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Speaker 8: I'm dying laughing. And then she starts attacking Joe, not physically,
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Speaker 8: but like... He was the one that was just sitting there, like,
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Speaker 8: not laughing. He was trying to, like, quietly eat his
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Speaker 8: Jell-O shot. And she's like... what are you laughing at,
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Speaker 8: you fucking asshole? He goes, um, I wasn't laughing.
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Speaker 6: Don't confuse her with logic.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah. And, uh, yeah, so it was pretty awkward and, uh,
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Speaker 8: it was funny. I guess you would have mostly had
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Speaker 8: to have been there, but.
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Speaker 6: I like that that gets worked into every morning.
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Speaker 11: You would have had to have been there.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it's true. For it to have been
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Speaker 8: as funny as it was for me, you would have
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Speaker 8: had to experience it yourself.
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Speaker 6: But, um, It's a special experience listening to you this way.
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Speaker 6: It's its own thing when you retell it here.
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Speaker 8: And after she left, Joe was like, wow, that's why
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Speaker 8: I don't come here. And at the same time, Jessica
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Speaker 8: was like, that's why we come here.
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Speaker 6: And that's why I question this as one of the
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Speaker 6: best ones, because when you stumble upon these events, then
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Speaker 6: it's pretty impressive that these all keep happening to you.
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Speaker 6: But when you just go to someplace where that shit
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Speaker 6: happens every week, I don't know. That changes it.
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Speaker 8: It's not that it happens every, well, actually, just, I
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Speaker 8: don't know. I think it might just be me. That
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Speaker 8: place is pretty ridiculous. I think a similar situation would
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Speaker 8: happen no matter the case.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, if you go anywhere where there's a
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Speaker 6: lot of drunk people, people are going to say stupid things.
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Speaker 8: No, this isn't just drunk people. This is like the trashiest, drunkest.
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Speaker 6: Once again.
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Speaker 8: Like pseudo bikers you could ever find.
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Speaker 6: But going there changes the whole playing field we're dealing with.
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Speaker 8: Yeah. And the thing that had happened earlier, which I
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Speaker 8: think Fred did, or I know Greg knows about this
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Speaker 8: at least, I'm standing at work. And Jessica was like,
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Speaker 8: what are you going to wear later? And I'm like,
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Speaker 8: I'm going to wear, I'm trying to say pussy bow blouse.
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Speaker 14: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 8: Which is like a legitimate term for like a 1960s
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Speaker 8: style secretary shirt.
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Speaker 1: I took your word for it.
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Speaker 6: I didn't look it up.
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Speaker 11: That ties on a little bow.
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Speaker 1: I just believe you.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it ties on a little bow at the neck.
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Speaker 8: And like we're crowded at work and, you know, we're
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Speaker 8: standing up front. And I can't get it out. I'm saying,
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Speaker 8: pussy blow blouse. And she's like, a what? And I'm like,
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Speaker 8: pussy blow blouse. And then everyone just kind of like
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Speaker 8: their forks drop and they look at me. And I'm like,
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Speaker 8: I was just yelling pussy and blow really loud. at
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Speaker 8: my place of business.
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Speaker 1: And you know, you really shouldn't do that.
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: That's dangerous. It could be an embolism or something.
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Speaker 6: Or if they think the blouse is about to come off,
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Speaker 6: you know, you might bring more people in. So if
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Speaker 6: you just go out front and yell that, you might
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Speaker 6: bring people in.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you really shouldn't blow in that area. No,
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Speaker 1: that's not healthy.
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Speaker 8: It could be an air embolism or something.
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Speaker 1: Yes, it is a danger.
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Speaker 6: I have heard that. Medically, it's not a good idea.
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Speaker 1: I just didn't want the podcast to become responsible for something.
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Speaker 6: So let's put a public service announcement up right now.
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Speaker 1: So kids.
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Speaker 6: Don't wear pussy blow blouses.
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Speaker 11: Don't yell about it in public.
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Speaker 8: It's hard to say. Pussy blow blouse. It's hard to say.
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Speaker 8: It's hard for anyone to say, not just me. That's
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Speaker 8: why I don't even, they probably have renamed it.
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Speaker 1: It sounds kind of like placebo. It does.
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Speaker 6: I'm going to wear a placebo, pussy bow, I don't know.
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Speaker 8: Did you say placebo? And I was like, no. No,
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Speaker 8: I'm not saying placebo.
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Speaker 6: I'm saying pussy blow. Damn, get it straight.
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Speaker 11: It's a placebo blouse. You think it's there, but it's not.
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Speaker 6: It's really just a t-shirt, but when you look at it,
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Speaker 6: you think it's the most beautiful blouse you've ever seen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 6: See, I like that story better, actually. I like pussy
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Speaker 6: blow better. That's way more fun. Then that horrible drunk woman.
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Speaker 8: No, the horrible drunk woman was really funny, though.
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Speaker 6: Only if you were there.
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Speaker 1: I do think it's funny that she's going to go
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Speaker 1: to jail for believing in the Lord.
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Speaker 17: Right.
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Speaker 1: I think that's fucking hilarious.
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Speaker 8: She's going to go to jail for believing in the
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Speaker 8: Lord Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 6: Well, maybe while she's there.
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Speaker 11: It has nothing to do with her being belligerent in public.
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Speaker 15: No.
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Speaker 1: I love how people work out how things work for themselves.
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Speaker 1: When something bad happens to them, they have to come
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Speaker 1: up with, You know, their explanation of, yes.
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Speaker 6: Well, while she's there in prison, she can get some
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Speaker 6: bad prison tattoos of probably a cross, or maybe Jesus
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Speaker 6: flipping you off.
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Speaker 11: I think a stick figure crucifixion would be awesome.
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Speaker 8: That would be great.
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Speaker 6: Didn't they do that on stick figure theater?
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Speaker 9: Maybe.
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Speaker 6: Maybe that was like the Easter special. I don't remember.
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I've.
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Speaker 8: Mentioned my friend who got the Jesus riding a T-Rex tattoos.
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Speaker 8: Because I told him that would be a great idea,
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Speaker 8: and he does what I tell him, which is kind
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Speaker 8: of awesome.
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Speaker 3: I would steal that idea. I don't have any tattoos,
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Speaker 3: and I thought, what would I get?
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Speaker 11: I heard about that.
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Speaker 1: I thought that was stealable.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, but I just want to update that, and he
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Speaker 8: now has Mary riding a Velociraptor on the other side.
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Speaker 6: See, I was going to say, I think yesterday I
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Speaker 6: came in contact with something equally as cool, and it
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Speaker 6: was fun because it was on my nephew, who's like
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Speaker 6: five years old. I came in, and he was wearing
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Speaker 6: this T-shirt, and I was like, damn, why don't they
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Speaker 6: make that in adult sizes? It was like a giant, like,
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Speaker 6: Velociraptor head, and then down towards the bottom was a
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Speaker 6: monster truck. And it said Jurassic Crush or something. I
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Speaker 6: was like, that's the most awesome shirt ever. Dinosaurs and
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Speaker 6: monster trucks on the same T-shirt. I was like, this kid,
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Speaker 6: this kid's stylish. I like this kid.
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Speaker 1: He'd be styling.
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Speaker 6: He was, I'm telling you.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and he's trying to think of the next religious
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Speaker 8: figure to, like, get. I think we should get, you know,
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Speaker 8: like an image of God on like a pterodactyl.
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Speaker 6: I think you should start mixing it up. It should
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Speaker 6: be like Buddha on a triceratops or something.
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Speaker 16: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I think.
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Speaker 8: I think it's the kind of Catholic image.
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Speaker 6: I want one from each. I want like, you know,
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Speaker 6: each religious leader from each different religion on a different dinosaur.
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Speaker 11: I think Gandhi eating a cheeseburger would be awesome.
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Speaker 8: That'd be pretty cool. This is not relevant at all.
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Speaker 1: Gandhi and the Hamburglar.
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Speaker 8: That would be great.
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Speaker 1: Gandhi dressed as the Hamburglar. Gandhi eating Mayor McCheese.
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Speaker 11: Just taking a bite out of his head.
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Speaker 6: Then we need Buddha with Grimace, because they seem like
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Speaker 6: they would hang out together.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they would be.
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Speaker 8: I once had a friend who, this is not extremely
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Speaker 8: relevant to the podcast, but to what we were just
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Speaker 8: talking about.
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Speaker 6: When is anything?
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Speaker 8: My friend Morgan lived in China or somewhere for a
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Speaker 8: little while. I think, actually, he lived in Korea.
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Speaker 1: And, I don't know. Did he not know where he
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Speaker 1: was living?
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Speaker 8: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: He knew.
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Speaker 6: He was always there.
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Speaker 18: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 6: He was in one of those countries over there.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, someplace.
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Speaker 6: Not America.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, not America.
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Speaker 6: And that's all that's important.
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Speaker 8: And really near to where he lived, there was a
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Speaker 8: painter who, like, would, he did portraits, and he kind of, like,
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Speaker 8: would perch on the street, and his portraits were really cheap.
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Speaker 8: And I think Morgan said it is like the equivalent
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Speaker 8: of like five or ten American dollars. And the guy
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Speaker 8: was like an amazing artist, and he would paint whatever
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Speaker 8: he wanted, and he like specialized in portraits. So Morgan
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Speaker 8: has this whole series of him like being kicked in
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Speaker 8: the ass by like Gandhi and like, yeah. Awesome.
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Speaker 1: Cool.
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Speaker 6: Here's Confucius kicking my ass.
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Speaker 16: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: All the great leaders of the world kicking my ass.
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Speaker 3: My wife was in Korea for a while on a
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Speaker 3: small island off the coast of Korea. And the only
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Speaker 3: things that I really can take back from her descriptions
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Speaker 3: were there was a lot of squid. That was like
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Speaker 3: 90% of the diet was squid. And every painting or
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Speaker 3: sculpture or picture has, you know, a phallic symbol in it.
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Speaker 6: Everything.
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Speaker 1: If you get.
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Speaker 6: So it's all like the cover of The Little Mermaid?
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: But it's just, yeah, every statue, every painting, every picture
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Speaker 3: has some kind of phallic symbol in it.
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Speaker 8: That's cool.
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Speaker 11: It was squid and penises.
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Speaker 9: Huh.
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Speaker 6: I think that's an anime.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 6: I think I've seen that, yeah. Nothing but penises and tentacles.
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Speaker 8: That kind of sounds awesome.
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Speaker 6: Well, then there's a lot of anime out there for
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Speaker 6: you to watch.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 6: That's all there is.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, probably several crossover countries.
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Speaker 13: Interesting.
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Speaker 6: Just type that in on your Google, and I'm sure
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Speaker 6: you'll get some really interesting stuff.
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Speaker 1: I think that about sums it up for me.
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Speaker 6: All right, so with that, we will take a break
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Speaker 6: and be back with this week's movie.
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Speaker 5: The top news story of the day continues to be
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Speaker 6: Lot All right, welcome back to Movie Meltdown Sofa Theater.
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Speaker 6: This week's Sofa Theater feature is The Incredible Shrinking Woman.
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Speaker 6: The year is 1981. The director, and it surprised the
20:49
Speaker 6: hell out of me when I saw this, Joel Schumacher.
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Speaker 6: The plot, according to IMDb, when an ordinary woman is
20:56
Speaker 6: exposed to a unique mix of chemicals, she begins to
20:59
Speaker 6: uncontrollably physically shrink, which is an odd worded thing, but
21:04
Speaker 6: it's IMDb. So with that.
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Speaker 1: Controllably mentally shrink. The junior high kids writing these.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so. So with that spoiler alert, we will,
21:15
Speaker 6: I'm sure, go into all of the spoiler-filled areas of
21:18
Speaker 6: this movie. And before we get done, we will go ahead...
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Speaker 6: One from the vaults. Another installment of One from the Vaults.
21:26
Speaker 6: And we will see what Lily has to say about
21:28
Speaker 6: her thoughts on The Incredible Shrinking Woman.
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Speaker 22: Oh, yeah, well, Jane and I, my partner Jane and
21:33
Speaker 22: I produced that movie.
21:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, she wrote it, didn't she?
21:36
Speaker 22: Yeah, and she wrote it, and it went through a
21:39
Speaker 22: lot of changes, though, that we weren't entirely happy with. Yeah.
21:45
Speaker 22: But we did it, and it was a long shoot,
21:47
Speaker 22: because I had to stop shooting Shrinking Woman to go
21:50
Speaker 22: and start 9 to 5. Yeah. Because of the special effects.
21:55
Speaker 22: I mean, it wasn't a big-budget movie, and we... had
21:58
Speaker 22: to use a lot of big props and a lot
22:01
Speaker 22: of rear screen.
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Speaker 1: That was all pre-CGI.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.
22:06
Speaker 1: It was all giant dolls and toys.
22:08
Speaker 22: Yeah, and like if I was on, you know, when
22:11
Speaker 22: I'm sitting on the dining room table, I'm really about
22:13
Speaker 22: 30 feet in the air.
22:15
Speaker 1: Yeah.
22:15
Speaker 22: And then in the lab table, I'm running around when
22:18
Speaker 22: I'm captured in the lab, and I was running around
22:22
Speaker 22: on the top of this stainless steel, you know, scaffolding
22:27
Speaker 22: that's way up in the air, and I'm hysterical, running, screaming,
22:32
Speaker 22: and I kept thinking, I'm sure to run off the
22:36
Speaker 22: edge of this damn thing.
22:40
Speaker 6: There's a gorilla there to catch.
22:41
Speaker 13: You, right?
22:42
Speaker 22: Yeah, right. Oh, and that's, yeah, the gorilla, and he
22:45
Speaker 22: was made out of fiberglass. His fur, the big arm
22:48
Speaker 22: that I rode on was made out of fiberglass. I
22:50
Speaker 22: probably have mesothelioma over it.
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Speaker 1: There's lawyers you can call about that still.
22:58
Speaker 22: Yeah, I know you're supposed to be, but I was doing,
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Speaker 22: I did it as a, I probably have no claim
23:03
Speaker 22: as a producer.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 1: You'd be suing yourself at that point.
23:08
Speaker 6: Was John Landis originally attached to it at one point?
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Speaker 22: Yes, he was originally, and then he, the budget on
23:16
Speaker 22: the movie got cut, and he had to go do
23:18
Speaker 22: Blues Brothers, and Because the movie with John was much more,
23:22
Speaker 22: they were willing to spend the money with John.
23:24
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.
23:25
Speaker 22: Because he'd already had, I guess, a couple of hits.
23:30
Speaker 6: Yeah, Animal House probably.
23:31
Speaker 22: I can't remember offhand. And, of course, Rick Baker did
23:35
Speaker 22: Sidney the Gorilla.
23:37
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
23:38
Speaker 22: But when John was in the movie, it was going
23:40
Speaker 22: to be a much bigger budget for me. And we
23:43
Speaker 22: were going to have many more locations and a lot
23:45
Speaker 22: of different stuff that we had to change. He had
23:50
Speaker 22: to leave because they had to start Blues Brothers.
23:53
Speaker 6: And then how did you get to Joel Schumacher?
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Speaker 22: Well, I know that that was Joel's first feature. He
24:03
Speaker 22: directed something on television. He was very close to Ned Tannen,
24:07
Speaker 22: who was one of the high executives at Universal. And
24:13
Speaker 22: as far as I know, I mean, I think they
24:15
Speaker 22: were looking for a picture for Joel to do or something.
24:19
Speaker 22: And that's what happened.
24:23
Speaker 6: Thank you once again to Lily for telling us her
24:26
Speaker 6: thoughts and the memories of the movie. And I guess
24:29
Speaker 6: now we can start with ours. So I ask you,
24:32
Speaker 6: where would you like to begin?
24:34
Speaker 1: Well, I would like to say that, you know, all
24:37
Speaker 1: the respect in the world for Lily Tomlin and Jane Wagner... Yes.
24:42
Speaker 1: The movie sucked. It just sucked.
24:45
Speaker 8: I love the movie.
24:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't say it sucked. I would say it sucked.
24:51
Speaker 11: Yeah, I wouldn't say it sucked.
24:52
Speaker 1: There were some good.
24:53
Speaker 6: Things to chew on. I remember, and this is what
24:57
Speaker 6: made me want to specifically ask her about this one,
25:00
Speaker 6: I remember really liking this movie as a kid. And
25:03
Speaker 6: I think that's part of it. I think it is
25:04
Speaker 6: one of those, if you saw it as a kid,
25:06
Speaker 6: you probably would really enjoy it. And a lot of
25:09
Speaker 6: the sillier stuff that comes into play... Watching it now,
25:13
Speaker 6: I see the parts that are silly about it. I
25:16
Speaker 6: definitely see the stuff. But there still is a little
25:18
Speaker 6: bit of nostalgia for me. I still look at it
25:20
Speaker 6: and go, ah, yeah, I kind of remember why I
25:22
Speaker 6: like this at the time. So I think you're just
25:25
Speaker 6: not kid enough to enjoy it.
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Speaker 3: There were three things that I remembered remembering about it,
25:32
Speaker 3: and it wasn't until I watched it that all three
25:33
Speaker 3: came back.
25:35
Speaker 11: The first was.
25:37
Speaker 3: I recognized her from, I didn't know who she was
25:40
Speaker 3: as a kid, you know, a young kid. And I
25:42
Speaker 3: recognized her from, um, the electric company, I guess is
25:45
Speaker 3: what it was when she, is that what she would do?
25:48
Speaker 3: Her character of the young girl in the, uh, he
25:51
Speaker 3: did fan.
25:52
Speaker 6: She did those on TV and I'm laughing.
25:55
Speaker 9: Yeah.
25:56
Speaker 11: But I, but see, I think I saw them somewhere else.
25:58
Speaker 1: Like, um, yeah, she was omnipresent.
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Speaker 6: She was on a lot of stuff or something, you know?
26:06
Speaker 3: Um, The other thing was, because my parents had rented
26:09
Speaker 3: it and watched it, and I remember the little boy
26:12
Speaker 3: having the coolest costumes and toys and everything.
26:16
Speaker 11: I thought he was a badass. And when I finally.
26:22
Speaker 3: Learned officially what the middle finger was as a young man,
26:29
Speaker 3: It was like these– I always associated the middle finger
26:32
Speaker 3: with a gorilla giving it. And it wasn't until just
26:35
Speaker 3: re-watching it that I realized where the gorilla was.
26:38
Speaker 11: That I saw giving the finger. So I was like–
26:42
Speaker 11: I mean I had to stop watching.
26:44
Speaker 3: I was like– You know, for years I thought it
26:47
Speaker 3: was like something I'd imagined or something I'd, you know.
26:50
Speaker 6: Or a weird day at the zoo.
26:52
Speaker 1: That never happened.
26:54
Speaker 11: I was like, no, that never happened.
26:56
Speaker 3: You know, I figured that out in my mind that
26:57
Speaker 3: it was a dream or something. And then there it was.
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Speaker 6: It's funny. I think I. It had forgotten or just
27:04
Speaker 6: blocked out that moment.
27:06
Speaker 14: Yeah.
27:06
Speaker 6: Because I remembered everything else. I remember there was a gorilla.
27:09
Speaker 6: I remember the whole escape thing going on. But I
27:11
Speaker 6: got to that, and it was just this slap in
27:13
Speaker 6: the face of, oh, shit, I forgot about this scene.
27:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
27:16
Speaker 6: What the fuck? Oh, Lord.
27:20
Speaker 3: So maybe that's maybe the nostalgia for me. That's why
27:23
Speaker 3: I couldn't say it sucked.
27:24
Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
27:25
Speaker 6: I still think there's a lot of stuff going on
27:27
Speaker 6: that I didn't expect, though. Because, again, I remember it
27:30
Speaker 6: as a kid, so I don't remember seeing anything else.
27:33
Speaker 6: I just remember it's, oh, and she's shrinking in giant
27:36
Speaker 6: toys and blah, blah, blah. But when I started watching
27:39
Speaker 6: it this time, I realized what a huge statement they
27:44
Speaker 6: were making. Like, how hardcore they were in this weird, like,
27:49
Speaker 6: First of all, this satirical look at advertising, and then
27:52
Speaker 6: this really hardcore anti-consumerism stance that they just really go on.
27:58
Speaker 8: And also the shrinking role of the woman filmmaker.
28:01
Speaker 6: Yeah, the fact that they bring that up a lot.
28:04
Speaker 1: It all seems sort of facile and half-hearted, like they
28:06
Speaker 1: weren't really too serious about it.
28:08
Speaker 6: That's what I thought was weird, though. It's like they
28:10
Speaker 6: take this really obvious stance against it, but they never really...
28:16
Speaker 6: say anything with it it's like they never really finish
28:19
Speaker 6: the statement they bring it up a couple of times
28:22
Speaker 6: and then by the end she's giving this big speech
28:25
Speaker 6: and she's just like I don't have to tell you
28:27
Speaker 6: what's wrong with the world like she doesn't even pinpoint
28:29
Speaker 6: it like she doesn't even say what their problem is
28:32
Speaker 6: with things it's just there's a lot of things wrong
28:35
Speaker 6: and I think that's part of the problem I guess
28:37
Speaker 6: is there's no focus really on that stuff it's like
28:41
Speaker 6: they're kind of trying to be you know self aware
28:44
Speaker 6: of what's going on and sort of conscious about the
28:48
Speaker 6: world that they're in and make some sort of statement
28:49
Speaker 6: about the world at that time or in general. And
28:52
Speaker 6: it seems like they just didn't finish it or, I
28:55
Speaker 6: don't know.
28:56
Speaker 1: They weren't really that serious.
28:57
Speaker 6: That's it.
28:58
Speaker 1: It's an easy thing to do. It's like, you know,
29:01
Speaker 1: Charlie Brown Christmas. It's all the commercialism is ruining Christmas. Oh, well,
29:06
Speaker 1: let's dance.
29:07
Speaker 6: Hey, that line is at a point. What are you
29:09
Speaker 6: talking about? I'll tell you what.
29:10
Speaker 3: I love the commercialism of Christmas. I just want to
29:13
Speaker 3: say that right now. That's the fun part.
29:15
Speaker 1: I just hate babies.
29:16
Speaker 3: Started in August.
29:19
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit.
29:20
Speaker 11: Christmas is fun.
29:21
Speaker 3: I completely removed the religion out of it. I just
29:24
Speaker 3: think it's something to break up the winter.
29:27
Speaker 6: Well, that's what, yeah, I mean, to me, it has
29:29
Speaker 6: nothing to do with religion anymore, now that we're going
29:31
Speaker 6: on a rant on Christmas. But, yeah, to me, there's
29:33
Speaker 6: two different modes. It's like, if you want to be
29:35
Speaker 6: religious about it, you can. If you want to have
29:37
Speaker 6: a tree and give presents, that's a whole different thing.
29:40
Speaker 6: You can trace it back to whatever you want, but
29:42
Speaker 6: those are two separate modes now.
29:43
Speaker 11: I have an excuse to have... Almost a pagan Christmas.
29:47
Speaker 11: Light up your house so it's not so disgusting. Have
29:49
Speaker 11: something to look forward to. Give presents. Be nice to people.
29:53
Speaker 1: Why is that commercialism so bad? Do it.
29:58
Speaker 6: So now let's embrace the wonders of consumerism.
30:01
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you embrace it right, I mean,
30:04
Speaker 1: if you come up with a really good idea for
30:06
Speaker 1: a gift, that's awesome. It's just hard to do.
30:12
Speaker 8: Like, this movie almost had like a Stepford Wives kind
30:16
Speaker 8: of quality about it in a comical way. But it
30:19
Speaker 8: fizzled out at the end, like you said. I still
30:22
Speaker 8: think the overall message was there. They didn't, I mean,
30:25
Speaker 8: they could have wrapped it up a little bit better,
30:27
Speaker 8: but you kind of got the gist. And it was
30:30
Speaker 8: a comedy. They weren't trying to make it super serious.
30:33
Speaker 8: So I think that's why they didn't, like, drill that
30:35
Speaker 8: in at the end of the movie.
30:36
Speaker 6: I think so, but it still doesn't. it doesn't ever
30:39
Speaker 6: really put a point on it at all. It seems
30:41
Speaker 6: like it needed to at least be a little more
30:43
Speaker 6: of a specific thing they were trying to do with it. Instead,
30:46
Speaker 6: it's just sort of a generalized... I don't know. It's
30:49
Speaker 6: like that, I guess, was... And it does become like
30:51
Speaker 6: a different movie that last 20 minutes or so. Like,
30:54
Speaker 6: everything from the kidnapping is a different movie and gets
30:58
Speaker 6: really silly. Like, before that, it's... I mean, the whole
31:00
Speaker 6: premise is silly, but it's still like there's a lot
31:03
Speaker 6: more interesting stuff going on. And then I think once
31:06
Speaker 6: you get to that, it's just... crazy slapstick running around
31:09
Speaker 6: in monkey suits. It becomes an incoherent mess. Yeah, kind of.
31:13
Speaker 1: I mean, they have an idea, and they're starting to
31:15
Speaker 1: work with it, but then it's just off the top.
31:17
Speaker 1: It seems like she's just riding off the top of
31:19
Speaker 1: her head.
31:20
Speaker 6: Yeah.
31:21
Speaker 8: I was just going to say, it kind of seems
31:23
Speaker 8: like maybe the whole 9 to 5 got in the
31:25
Speaker 8: way with it, and they kind of just wrapped it
31:27
Speaker 8: up a little too soon, maybe.
31:29
Speaker 6: Maybe that was the dividing point. Maybe they'd gotten that
31:33
Speaker 6: other two-thirds of it done, and then when she had
31:35
Speaker 6: to go shoot 9 to 5, came back and was
31:37
Speaker 6: just like, Okay, now all the budget's gone, and we
31:40
Speaker 6: don't know how to end it. They've changed this, they've
31:42
Speaker 6: changed this, so that may have been what happened.
31:45
Speaker 3: The other thought that I had about it, and this
31:47
Speaker 3: was before I knew about being broken up into parts,
31:51
Speaker 3: was that perhaps it was too.
31:55
Speaker 3: Maybe, like, especially with her speech, maybe she was going
31:58
Speaker 3: to have a full speech. And it was going to
32:00
Speaker 3: be an anti-consumerism thing. And then maybe the company said,
32:05
Speaker 3: you need to stop right there.
32:07
Speaker 6: Much like in the movie.
32:08
Speaker 17: Right.
32:09
Speaker 6: You're going to lose money for us.
32:10
Speaker 3: We're not going to put this out if you keep
32:12
Speaker 3: going down that path. And so they just abandoned that.
32:17
Speaker 6: Well, that was part of the change. I did find
32:18
Speaker 6: it says when John Landis was still the director before
32:22
Speaker 6: they made all those changes, In his version, the film
32:24
Speaker 6: would have ended with the heroine giving a speech in Washington, D.C.
32:28
Speaker 6: when she was less than a foot tall. And I'm
32:30
Speaker 6: sure that would have been a pretty heavy speech. I mean,
32:33
Speaker 6: based on, you know, just his probably much more serious
32:38
Speaker 6: movie and, you know, Washington, D.C. And yeah, I can
32:41
Speaker 6: see it being a very message heavy moment there where
32:45
Speaker 6: at this point they were just like, Let's have a
32:48
Speaker 6: monkey running around the supermarket.
32:51
Speaker 11: That all was pretty dumb.
32:52
Speaker 3: But up until that point, I was having a good time, honestly,
32:57
Speaker 3: with the garbage disposal.
33:01
Speaker 6: The special effects stuff.
33:05
Speaker 1: Yes, you know it's fake.
33:06
Speaker 6: But really, for 81, it looked pretty good. I was
33:09
Speaker 6: expecting to go back and have remembered it better than
33:12
Speaker 6: it was. And I'm looking at it going... You know,
33:14
Speaker 6: even by now, I mean, you don't have green screen.
33:17
Speaker 6: They were just sort of getting to that point of,
33:19
Speaker 6: this was even still a little before blue screen fully
33:22
Speaker 6: kicked in. But, I mean, it definitely looks good for
33:25
Speaker 6: 81 particularly.
33:27
Speaker 8: I love, I mean, this is not really relevant to
33:30
Speaker 8: this movie, but, you know, like Honey, I Shrunk the Kids,
33:33
Speaker 8: I love tiny people with giant props. I love it.
33:38
Speaker 8: Just the thought of them making this gigantic sink prop
33:41
Speaker 8: that's like an actual gigantic sink is just so entertaining
33:45
Speaker 8: to me. It's parallel with my obsession with fake food.
33:49
Speaker 8: I just love little miniature things and gigantic things and
33:53
Speaker 8: fake food.
33:54
Speaker 6: You have very specific things that you're interested in.
33:56
Speaker 8: Yes, very specific criteria for things that I like. I
33:58
Speaker 8: don't know why, but I just do.
34:01
Speaker 6: Well, I was thinking that. I mean, it is something
34:02
Speaker 6: that they sort of reboot this idea every 10 years
34:05
Speaker 6: or so, because that was like the 80s version of this,
34:08
Speaker 6: was Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. And then 90s, didn't
34:10
Speaker 6: we do another version that was... Well, they just kept sequeling.
34:14
Speaker 1: Well, we have to mention the incredible shrinking.
34:17
Speaker 6: Which is where they are. That's where I was going
34:18
Speaker 6: is that they're taking it from the actual, you know,
34:21
Speaker 6: Matheson novel. So they even credit it at the beginning. So,
34:24
Speaker 6: I mean, it is based in something very real and scientific,
34:29
Speaker 6: you know, in a very sci-fi heavy project. So, you know,
34:33
Speaker 6: I mean, it's been a long time since I've seen
34:35
Speaker 6: the original movie. I'm pretty sure they stray quite a
34:37
Speaker 6: bit from that.
34:39
Speaker 1: Oh, I remember that movie vividly, and he has a
34:42
Speaker 1: little speech at the end that gets all cosmic. It's
34:47
Speaker 1: like funny, but beautiful. I don't know. It's kind of
34:52
Speaker 1: a cool little movie. I remember being really impressed by
34:55
Speaker 1: it when I was like, I don't know, nine or something.
34:57
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was like 60s, wasn't it? So that's like
35:00
Speaker 6: the 60s version, and this is almost like, it still
35:03
Speaker 6: kind of feels like the 70s version. It's 81, but
35:06
Speaker 6: it feels like a somewhat pretty close.
35:09
Speaker 11: Like it was made in 79.
35:09
Speaker 6: Yeah, which is, yeah, I guess when they started working
35:12
Speaker 6: on it. Pat, gotta try camper clean.
35:16
Speaker 1: No more ring around the fender, honey.
35:19
Speaker 8: Great new diet daiquiri mix at the store, hun.
35:22
Speaker 1: Pat, you deserve a break today.
35:24
Speaker 23: Pat, you gotta get some of this stuff for your lawn.
35:27
Speaker 6: Ever see our boat look better? Pat, it's boat sheen.
35:31
Speaker 19: Hi, Pat.
35:32
Speaker 1: Got some Valjum.
35:33
Speaker 24: Hey, Pat.
35:34
Speaker 1: How about a weenie, huh?
35:36
Speaker 8: There I was, safe and secure in the belief that
35:39
Speaker 8: nothing unusual ever happens in Tasty Meadows.
35:41
Speaker 3: Right off the bat, When they're on their way home,
35:47
Speaker 3: and I thought it was fun.
35:49
Speaker 11: Every neighbor was talking about a new product.
35:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. See, that's, instead of it getting
35:56
Speaker 1: heavier or more serious, if it went with that kind
36:00
Speaker 1: of bizarro stylistic choice, further, by the end of the movie,
36:06
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like narrating a story, but it
36:10
Speaker 1: doesn't have that. That sense of creating a world.
36:15
Speaker 6: It loses the satire. That, to me, was really satirically
36:19
Speaker 6: making fun of... It kind of was the suburbs thing.
36:24
Speaker 6: It was sort of that same thing.
36:25
Speaker 9: As the house.
36:25
Speaker 1: And when she goes into her house, and just the
36:27
Speaker 1: look of the house, it already looks like a Barbie house.
36:31
Speaker 1: It has that Barbie pink everywhere. It's strange.
36:36
Speaker 3: The thing that struck me, it had that same feel
36:39
Speaker 3: of the neighborhood in Edward Scissorhands.
36:43
Speaker 6: That's what I was going to bring up.
36:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, the parody of the suburbs.
36:46
Speaker 6: That's exactly what I was going to bring up.
36:47
Speaker 3: Really, and I could see, even see Tim Burton watching
36:51
Speaker 3: this and thinking, that's that kind of feeling.
36:53
Speaker 8: Even the lady that was selling.
36:55
Speaker 3: The cosmetics is almost directly at it.
36:58
Speaker 11: And that's, and if it, would have stayed down that path.
37:03
Speaker 11: It probably would have been.
37:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, kept with the big stylistic choices. Perhaps showing it.
37:09
Speaker 1: For me, as it went on, it just got ugly.
37:12
Speaker 1: I just couldn't look at it. The pistachio suit that Charles.
37:16
Speaker 11: Clayton was wearing.
37:17
Speaker 6: See, that's the thing.
37:18
Speaker 1: Everything is so ugly, and the kids are so fucking annoying.
37:22
Speaker 1: I just want to smack them.
37:24
Speaker 6: See, that's the part I thought was pretty realistic, that
37:27
Speaker 6: ridiculous family. I was like, the house is trash. There's
37:30
Speaker 6: toys everywhere. Every few minutes, there's something flying through the room.
37:33
Speaker 6: The kids won't shut up. I was like, everything about
37:37
Speaker 6: the family is actually, it's obnoxious and overwhelming, and that's
37:41
Speaker 6: what makes it kind of real.
37:43
Speaker 1: Yeah.
37:44
Speaker 6: But yeah, they were kind of obnoxious, but... Yeah, I
37:48
Speaker 6: don't know.
37:49
Speaker 1: You get that, and then they just keep going.
37:53
Speaker 14: I don't know.
37:53
Speaker 1: By the end, I'm visually just annoyed by the whole movie.
37:59
Speaker 6: Again, it changes so much visually. But in the beginning,
38:01
Speaker 6: I was going to say, that's what, and it's funny that,
38:04
Speaker 6: I mean, I guess you can give a little credit
38:06
Speaker 6: to Joel Schumacher because he does have those visuals. Like,
38:10
Speaker 6: if you look, even in his really bad tacky projects,
38:14
Speaker 6: Batman and Robin, Again, look at those colors and those
38:17
Speaker 6: like everything is really epic and overdone and played up.
38:21
Speaker 6: This is kind of like the infancy of that. It's
38:23
Speaker 6: like you see because really it's even like when I
38:26
Speaker 6: thought about, OK, it does remind me of the neighborhood
38:28
Speaker 6: from Edward Scissorhands. It's like the dial back version because
38:31
Speaker 6: you don't notice it right off. I mean, you get
38:33
Speaker 6: the Stepford Wives part, but then like the color thing,
38:36
Speaker 6: like it took like 20, 30 minutes before I started
38:39
Speaker 6: looking and seeing how. universal it was that it was
38:43
Speaker 6: making this little neighborhood in this little world that like
38:47
Speaker 6: each of the cars was its own little like pastel
38:50
Speaker 6: rainbow you know everybody had a different colored pastel car and.
38:54
Speaker 3: The the green was the same green that was in
38:57
Speaker 3: all the other yeah it was it was were all
38:59
Speaker 3: the same it was all that.
39:00
Speaker 6: Like light mint green and yeah that same like powder
39:04
Speaker 6: blue on everything everything was this like easter theme neighborhood
39:08
Speaker 6: and And then you get to the close, and I
39:10
Speaker 6: got to that scene where Charles Grodin comes in, and
39:13
Speaker 6: you're sitting there with the neighbor, and he's wearing pink
39:16
Speaker 6: pants and this puke green shirt. I was just like,
39:21
Speaker 6: what is he wearing? And at that point, I thought
39:23
Speaker 6: it was just, what year was that? What was this
39:25
Speaker 6: awful outfit? And then I started seeing the other neighbors
39:28
Speaker 6: and like how obnoxious all of their clothes were. And
39:32
Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, this is at least conscious. This is
39:34
Speaker 6: a very specific look he's going for. I don't know.
39:38
Speaker 6: It's not near as over the top as he gets later.
39:42
Speaker 6: It's not even as over-the-top as Tim Burton gets doing
39:44
Speaker 6: Edward Scissorhands. It's a little more subdued, but still obnoxious.
39:50
Speaker 6: But almost in a good way. I almost give it
39:52
Speaker 6: points for being creative. It's like it's more than... Again,
39:55
Speaker 6: that was stuff that I don't remember as a kid,
39:57
Speaker 6: and now looking at it, seeing this color scheme that
40:01
Speaker 6: he's going for, and seeing him trying to be a director. Again,
40:05
Speaker 6: he continues to try.
40:06
Speaker 21: It's arguable.
40:07
Speaker 6: It's definitely sloppy.
40:08
Speaker 11: There's a lot of mess.
40:11
Speaker 6: This is his first feature, like his first real movie,
40:13
Speaker 6: so you can tell. I mean, he's definitely a first-time director.
40:17
Speaker 6: He's still sort of getting his bearings, but I don't know.
40:21
Speaker 6: It shows promise, maybe more than he deserves some projects,
40:24
Speaker 6: but he's a weird director. Like, if you go and
40:28
Speaker 6: look through his list, it's like... as much as I
40:31
Speaker 6: want a bad mouth and as a knee jerk reaction,
40:34
Speaker 6: I'll go down and go, Oh God, I forgot he
40:35
Speaker 6: did that. I like that. Oh God, what is he?
40:38
Speaker 6: You know, there's like, I want to rule, you know,
40:41
Speaker 6: just write him off as a terrible director, but then
40:43
Speaker 6: there's four or five that I'm like, I really liked
40:46
Speaker 6: that movie and it actually looks good. And it's a,
40:49
Speaker 6: it's a well put together plot.
40:51
Speaker 1: And I don't trust people who never do anything bad.
40:54
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's just done equal parts, I suppose, but,
40:58
Speaker 6: He's another one.
40:59
Speaker 1: Am I the only person who feels like, after the
41:03
Speaker 1: thing with two heads, the gorilla and the Keystone Cops thing,
41:07
Speaker 1: did they just have a stop drawer full of stuff
41:11
Speaker 1: like when a movie goes off the rails? Throw in
41:14
Speaker 1: the gorilla, do the cop chase.
41:16
Speaker 6: I think it's always been like that.
41:18
Speaker 3: If they would have had the dirt bike, Yeah, man,
41:23
Speaker 3: this could have been a full-on sequel.
41:26
Speaker 6: I would say it's something about this time period, you know,
41:29
Speaker 6: that 70s to 80s. But no, I mean, you go
41:31
Speaker 6: back and look at movies in the 30s. Look how
41:33
Speaker 6: many Universal movies had a gorilla in them, half of
41:37
Speaker 6: which were horror. But, I mean, you go back. I mean,
41:39
Speaker 6: they had stock gorilla suits sitting around the Universal lot,
41:42
Speaker 6: and they would just cram them into random movies. Sometimes
41:46
Speaker 6: they were horror. Sometimes it was sci-fi. Just put a
41:49
Speaker 6: diving helmet on them.
41:50
Speaker 8: I mean.
41:51
Speaker 6: I don't think that was universal, but all those movies
41:54
Speaker 6: at that time, it's like you just shoved a gorilla
41:57
Speaker 6: in there as a fallback.
41:58
Speaker 8: Everyone had the King Kong suit, and they're just like, eh,
42:01
Speaker 8: fuck it, put it in the movie.
42:02
Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty much. It became a.
42:04
Speaker 8: King Kong did really good.
42:06
Speaker 6: It was an easy move. It was just like, people
42:08
Speaker 6: like gorillas in movies, right? It's like, I don't think
42:11
Speaker 6: anybody ever said yes. They just went, right? And they
42:15
Speaker 6: kept cramming it in there.
42:17
Speaker 8: You know, this movie did have similar themes to the
42:20
Speaker 8: thing with two heads, you know? There's like the evil
42:24
Speaker 8: kind of guy who wants to... Scientist. Yeah.
42:29
Speaker 3: Well, and the feel of it could be comedy, it
42:34
Speaker 3: could be.
42:36
Speaker 11: It could be just old sci-fi.
42:38
Speaker 1: Some sort of social commentary.
42:40
Speaker 11: Yeah, all kind of mashed into one. Although this is
42:43
Speaker 11: Oscar-worthy compared.
42:44
Speaker 6: To The Thing With Two Hands. Yes, it is.
42:49
Speaker 11: No, the effects of this movie I loved.
42:53
Speaker 6: I think it looked good for what they were doing.
42:56
Speaker 1: I love the thing like the little flat top.
43:01
Speaker 11: Griddle that she was cooking the bacon on. And the
43:04
Speaker 11: bacon was moving.
43:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was hilarious. That was good.
43:07
Speaker 6: What kind of family is that? Why would you, I mean,
43:09
Speaker 6: she could die if she fell on that. Go take
43:12
Speaker 6: her away from that.
43:13
Speaker 8: What if it was a maid? Like, why did they
43:15
Speaker 8: have a fucking maid?
43:16
Speaker 1: She was awesome. I would hire her. She looks so different, like,
43:19
Speaker 1: you know, in some areas. Yeah, then fixed up. But
43:22
Speaker 1: when she wasn't fixed up, she was actually kind of
43:25
Speaker 1: pretty and looked a lot like my Russian babysitter.
43:27
Speaker 6: Uh-oh.
43:28
Speaker 1: If she had had a scar, I would know.
43:32
Speaker 6: Oh, Concepcion.
43:34
Speaker 8: What kind of name is Concepcion? Concepcion?
43:37
Speaker 1: I thought she was a daughter.
43:38
Speaker 6: I don't think I'd fuck a woman named Concepcion.
43:41
Speaker 1: That would worry me.
43:42
Speaker 8: Sounds like an accident waiting to happen.
43:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I would think of Dave Concepcion.
43:47
Speaker 6: I've got to meet him. You got a bad case
43:49
Speaker 6: of Concepcion. Oh, man. I wouldn't have thought of that.
43:56
Speaker 11: It's a mess.
43:58
Speaker 6: I mean, it's a mess, but there's moments when it's
44:00
Speaker 6: like there's really, like, well-done stuff in there.
44:04
Speaker 1: I mean, it's... There's... It just doesn't hold together. A
44:08
Speaker 1: lot of Kentucky actors, Ned Beatty and Ellie Tomlin. Yeah.
44:13
Speaker 1: I remember... The thing about Jane Wagner that I just
44:17
Speaker 1: love is this hour-long movie she wrote. It was like
44:21
Speaker 1: her first thing. It was called J.T., and it's just
44:25
Speaker 1: one of the great things I've seen in my life.
44:28
Speaker 1: It's among those moments like, I don't know, like maybe
44:33
Speaker 1: I was a kid.
44:34
Speaker 25: I was watching Zeffirelli's Romeo and Juliet and the Mercutio
44:38
Speaker 25: scene that's like, oh, you could do the scene that
44:43
Speaker 25: way and it's so unexpected, but it's convincing. And I
44:46
Speaker 25: don't know about the movie as a whole, but that
44:48
Speaker 25: scene was like, it was a moment when I realized
44:51
Speaker 25: what a director does and how the actors take over
44:54
Speaker 25: the material. But she wrote this thing, it was like
44:58
Speaker 25: an after-school special called JT, and it's just like, one
45:03
Speaker 25: of the most brilliant things i've ever seen yeah i've
45:06
Speaker 25: maybe seen it twice maybe three times but like my
45:09
Speaker 25: brother and i when that would come on we're like.
45:12
Speaker 1: Holy crap get to the tv and it was it
45:16
Speaker 1: was just about this kid in the ghetto who finds
45:19
Speaker 1: a cat and takes care of it and it's just
45:21
Speaker 1: riveting it's like one of the most striking things you'll
45:24
Speaker 1: ever see and it's not it's not around um But
45:29
Speaker 1: after watching this and thinking about it, I have to
45:33
Speaker 1: get hold of it. I'm on a quest.
45:36
Speaker 8: Wow. This movie just made me realize that there's so
45:40
Speaker 8: many movies that I see, like, a lot of potential that,
45:47
Speaker 8: I mean, most movies you don't want to see remade.
45:49
Speaker 8: And then this is one of the movies I would
45:51
Speaker 8: love to see remade, not, like, with blue screen or
45:54
Speaker 8: green screen or whatever props, but, like, And not by
45:57
Speaker 8: some asshole in Hollywood, but, like, this could be a...
46:00
Speaker 8: It has potential to be a really great movie with, like,
46:04
Speaker 8: an excellent message behind it, but it's just, like, no
46:08
Speaker 8: one's ever going to do it right.
46:09
Speaker 11: If it weren't heavy-handed.
46:10
Speaker 6: It depends on what you want to do with it,
46:13
Speaker 6: because I think where this one has its moments that
46:16
Speaker 6: are almost the best moments is actually the comedy stuff. Yeah, no,
46:20
Speaker 6: I agree.
46:21
Speaker 1: I mean, there's... There's so many ways a movie can
46:24
Speaker 1: go wrong, like, you know, with really good talent and everything.
46:28
Speaker 1: But then you've got to have the money, you've got
46:29
Speaker 1: to have the support, you've got to have things happen.
46:32
Speaker 1: It's a wonder that any of them turn out good, really.
46:34
Speaker 6: But, like, and again, we've thrown out the spoilers. So
46:37
Speaker 6: when we get to the funeral scene, like, that was
46:39
Speaker 6: the part I was like, when they... It's not the
46:42
Speaker 6: fact that they're burying a matchbox. It's the look that
46:47
Speaker 6: Charles Crodon gives. As she said, the nobody can fill
46:51
Speaker 6: her shoes line, which is almost so bad. Again, it's
46:55
Speaker 6: purposely put in how bad it is so that he
46:58
Speaker 6: can give you this look of, what the fuck just happened?
47:03
Speaker 6: That's why I was like, okay, this movie's got its
47:06
Speaker 6: moments of genius because that... I don't know if that
47:09
Speaker 6: was his movement or if that was written in, but
47:12
Speaker 6: I was like that moment of him just going, what
47:15
Speaker 6: did she just say? But not being able to really
47:17
Speaker 6: react to it. Oh, God.
47:19
Speaker 3: I think I had a moment of just epiphany. You
47:23
Speaker 3: could do almost like a mystery science theater moment, and
47:28
Speaker 3: you could take him, just him sitting there with a
47:32
Speaker 3: camera on him, And make it like a picture in picture.
47:36
Speaker 3: And it's video of him watching what you're watching. And
47:40
Speaker 3: he can react to the what the fuck moments in
47:43
Speaker 3: movies or television or even the news.
47:46
Speaker 11: And not even have audio. Just watch his face react
47:50
Speaker 11: to the world.
47:51
Speaker 6: As it goes by.
47:51
Speaker 11: And it would probably be... Hilarious.
47:54
Speaker 1: Charles Gruden.
47:55
Speaker 6: Again, that's... Charles Gruden.
47:57
Speaker 1: He also, he delivered the line, well, when you're ready
48:00
Speaker 1: to come down off your soapbox.
48:02
Speaker 6: I mean, you know they thought of that like first
48:06
Speaker 6: and went, all right, we have to make this movie
48:08
Speaker 6: about a shrinking woman.
48:09
Speaker 3: Yeah.
48:09
Speaker 6: Because I worked this... Where else can I do this?
48:12
Speaker 11: She had to stop and look down at it, too.
48:14
Speaker 6: Again, there's... I don't know. It's like, it works... on
48:18
Speaker 6: its own weird little levels that's along the way. Overall,
48:22
Speaker 6: it doesn't necessarily gel sometimes, but it's got moments in it,
48:26
Speaker 6: I'm telling you.
48:27
Speaker 3: I like the whole build-up to when he gives her
48:32
Speaker 3: the nightgown, and you're completely expecting him, he's even got
48:36
Speaker 3: the book out on the bed, and you're completely expecting
48:39
Speaker 3: him to be ready for her, and she's got all
48:41
Speaker 3: this build-up to it, and there's smoke and lighting and
48:46
Speaker 3: open the door and dramatic music and then he's asleep
48:49
Speaker 3: i you know and your mind is going okay how
48:52
Speaker 3: are they going to work this out.
48:53
Speaker 12: Yeah where's this love scene gonna go and.
48:57
Speaker 3: And you know this is awkward anyway and and then
49:01
Speaker 3: he's you know he's asleep and just i don't know
49:04
Speaker 3: it um it doesn't it's not necessarily funny but it
49:07
Speaker 3: definitely plants some things in your brain like How would they.
49:11
Speaker 6: What are we doing here?
49:14
Speaker 11: Why are we going down this path?
49:15
Speaker 6: I don't feel comfortable anymore.
49:17
Speaker 9: Right.
49:18
Speaker 6: Maybe that's why they changed that.
49:21
Speaker 1: Right.
49:21
Speaker 6: It immediately takes a turn. I don't know. I mean,
49:23
Speaker 6: we could just do the cast. I mean, Charles Grodin... Yeah.
49:26
Speaker 6: I mean, this was sort of that stretch of time
49:29
Speaker 6: that he was in damn near every movie. And he's
49:31
Speaker 6: kind of always that guy.
49:33
Speaker 8: Yeah.
49:33
Speaker 6: I mean, he's the same... husband that's, you know, kind
49:38
Speaker 6: of the straight man to whatever ridiculous situation that's going
49:41
Speaker 6: on from this movie to like, uh, seems like old
49:44
Speaker 6: times to Beethoven. I mean, he's doing the same shit,
49:48
Speaker 6: you know, it's, yeah, it's like, he's doing that same guy.
49:52
Speaker 6: He said, yeah, I mean, he's good at doing this.
49:55
Speaker 6: Like I'm watching him in this and I'm like, he's
49:56
Speaker 6: kind of, I mean, some.
49:57
Speaker 1: Of his, he's good. It's no Beethoven. I've got a, uh, um,
50:06
Speaker 1: I was always trying to pick out movies that I
50:08
Speaker 1: thought my kids would like. It's like those mirror receptors
50:11
Speaker 1: in your brain. You try to find stuff. But I
50:16
Speaker 1: picked out Midnight Run and got my daughter watching it.
50:21
Speaker 1: And she's like, no, it's another dad movie. And after
50:25
Speaker 1: a while, she's like... What the hell is this? It's like, yeah,
50:30
Speaker 1: it's that good. Again, it's a really good movie.
50:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want your dad to have picked it out.
50:36
Speaker 3: You're just like, here, this showed up. I'm not picking it.
50:40
Speaker 3: Tell me what you think of it.
50:42
Speaker 6: It's another good performance. And he's one of those, he
50:44
Speaker 6: doesn't seem to have range. He's always that guy, even
50:48
Speaker 6: if it's in a different, I'm like, that's a very
50:50
Speaker 6: different situation for his character. But he's still kind of
50:53
Speaker 6: that guy, you know? It's like he never strays too far.
50:55
Speaker 6: But somehow he's delivered a lot of really solid performances
50:59
Speaker 6: over the years with not really having much range in
51:02
Speaker 6: his performances.
51:04
Speaker 11: But it is always that what's the world doing to
51:06
Speaker 11: me now.
51:06
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah. I'm just, he's always, whatever the situation is,
51:10
Speaker 6: he's just got to, all right, what do I have
51:12
Speaker 6: to do to keep this, keep everything okay? What do
51:14
Speaker 6: I got to do? And yeah, he's always sort of
51:16
Speaker 6: holding it together as best he can, usually not very well.
51:19
Speaker 10: Right.
51:21
Speaker 6: But then, I mean, just so many other, like Henry Gibson.
51:25
Speaker 6: I mean, is there ever anything he's not kind of
51:27
Speaker 6: awesome in? All he has to do is be Henry Gibson.
51:30
Speaker 1: I couldn't think of his name when I was watching that.
51:33
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's right at the same time as the
51:35
Speaker 6: Blues Brothers, so it's like maybe that's where it, yeah,
51:38
Speaker 6: maybe he got sent over from one to the other. But, yeah,
51:42
Speaker 6: he's hilarious. And what else do we have? We've got
51:47
Speaker 6: Elizabeth Wilson as Ruth Ruth. Or Dr. Ruth before there
51:52
Speaker 6: was a Dr. Ruth, I guess.
51:53
Speaker 1: Oh, man.
51:55
Speaker 6: She's really funny, too.
51:56
Speaker 11: Ned Beatty's gross.
51:58
Speaker 6: Ned Beatty, like, again, pulling off a pretty convincing slimeball here.
52:06
Speaker 1: I do love the go ahead and arrest me. for
52:10
Speaker 1: what sir.
52:12
Speaker 26: Just trust me yeah but yeah he i mean he
52:15
Speaker 26: pulls it off again because this is like that point
52:17
Speaker 26: where he's you know gonna do like you know sidekick
52:21
Speaker 26: to lex luthor.
52:22
Speaker 6: So yeah he's good at playing the weasley you know
52:25
Speaker 6: guy but it was hard to see him as like
52:28
Speaker 6: yeah i don't know it was a little more sinister
52:31
Speaker 6: than he's usually usually he's just sort of dim-witted or
52:34
Speaker 6: you know he's just there to I don't know. It
52:36
Speaker 6: was slightly different than he usually gets shoved into.
52:41
Speaker 3: Why was Lily Tomlin playing the neighbor?
52:47
Speaker 6: Because she's Lily Tomlin. That's what it is. It did
52:51
Speaker 6: seem like.
52:52
Speaker 1: They were taking a little advantage of just how people
52:56
Speaker 1: love her.
52:57
Speaker 6: I mean, it was her project, and they made use
53:00
Speaker 6: of it. And that's what all those... I mean, she
53:02
Speaker 6: was the main character, but then her as the neighbor
53:05
Speaker 6: was someone she played on Broadway as one of her
53:08
Speaker 6: characters in Broadway.
53:10
Speaker 1: And then the operator.
53:11
Speaker 6: And then the operator. And there's actually an Edith Ann
53:14
Speaker 6: scene where she wanders into the lab that got cut
53:17
Speaker 6: out in the theatrical version.
53:18
Speaker 1: Well, and they had kind of like just the whole
53:21
Speaker 1: chair scale thing.
53:24
Speaker 9: Yeah.
53:24
Speaker 11: Because that's the first time you really see her as being.
53:28
Speaker 11: Is when she's in the chair. But, you know, I
53:30
Speaker 11: didn't understand how the neighbor was.
53:33
Speaker 3: She was there pimping all of these creams and soaps
53:36
Speaker 3: and everything. And the next scene you see her in,
53:40
Speaker 3: she's this, you know... Anti-consumerism advocate. Now, like, that's almost
53:45
Speaker 3: two separate roles. Why, you know, why did they all
53:48
Speaker 3: of a sudden switch to... Well, I mean, I guess
53:51
Speaker 3: it's supposed to.
53:51
Speaker 6: Again, that's towards the end more, especially by the end
53:55
Speaker 6: where she's, like, rallying against this. I mean, it's supposed
53:57
Speaker 6: to be, I guess, some sort of turnaround, and she
54:00
Speaker 6: even took the person that was the most... Characters grow. Yeah, well,
54:05
Speaker 6: I mean, that's that, you know, she's supposed to be
54:06
Speaker 6: changing the world. Even the littlest person can change the world.
54:09
Speaker 1: It's that novel that Brian the dog is working on.
54:12
Speaker 1: Characters grow, people change.
54:14
Speaker 12: You know.
54:15
Speaker 3: I still think she, almost immediate loyalty, as soon as
54:18
Speaker 3: she starts to shrink, she says... Oh, you know that's
54:20
Speaker 3: from all the products you're using.
54:22
Speaker 1: Well, you're the one that's talking.
54:23
Speaker 16: Yeah.
54:24
Speaker 3: Like, in the scene before you were talking.
54:25
Speaker 6: It is a really quick turnaround.
54:27
Speaker 1: It just seems so incoherent.
54:29
Speaker 26: Yeah.
54:29
Speaker 6: It's a quick turnaround. I'll give you that. Yeah. I
54:32
Speaker 6: understand it's supposed to be her, like, changing the people
54:36
Speaker 6: around her, specifically her being the worst at the beginning,
54:39
Speaker 6: who comes in with this box full of crap.
54:41
Speaker 1: Why is Lily Tomlin so hot? That's my question.
54:47
Speaker 6: Because you know you can't have her.
54:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, no, but usually that goes the other way
54:51
Speaker 1: for me. Usually I don't find lesbians attractive. But it's
54:57
Speaker 1: just funny. I mean, she's like, really, there's something about her,
55:02
Speaker 1: just something incredible. And I've actually heard people, when they
55:05
Speaker 1: interview her, ask her about that question of why women
55:08
Speaker 1: aren't funny, which just, and, you know, she responds to it,
55:12
Speaker 1: and she doesn't get mad or anything, but How can
55:15
Speaker 1: you ask somebody who is that funny to answer that question?
55:21
Speaker 6: Who has built their career about being funny.
55:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, just, I mean, who's a parallel guy? Well, I
55:28
Speaker 1: guess there are guys you could compare in stature, but
55:31
Speaker 1: she's just so good.
55:33
Speaker 6: But would you ask anyone and comment, why aren't men funny?
55:37
Speaker 26: Yeah.
55:38
Speaker 6: It seems like a stupid question anyway.
55:40
Speaker 1: Often they aren't.
55:41
Speaker 6: I probably, yeah, but not as a rule. It's stupid
55:44
Speaker 6: to think that women would not be funny.
55:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to ask somebody who is, it's just, I
55:53
Speaker 1: don't know, I guess it's just trolling for the controversy.
55:56
Speaker 6: I guess.
55:58
Speaker 3: I watched the PBS special on Carol Burnett this week.
56:03
Speaker 1: Yeah.
56:05
Speaker 3: And, you know, my mom always watched the Carol Burnett
56:07
Speaker 3: show when I was younger, and even my sister liked her.
56:09
Speaker 11: And I, you know, I was too young.
56:11
Speaker 1: I didn't get it.
56:13
Speaker 11: I always liked Tim Conway, and I always liked Harvey Korman.
56:16
Speaker 22: Yeah.
56:16
Speaker 11: I didn't really get it on that level.
56:18
Speaker 1: Yeah. And.
56:21
Speaker 11: I don't know that I've laughed at television. This was
56:24
Speaker 11: a documentary. I don't know that I've laughed at television
56:27
Speaker 11: that much watching it.
56:28
Speaker 6: Just, yeah, speaking of women in comedy, they were just,
56:32
Speaker 6: in the last year, have started putting together those best
56:35
Speaker 6: of collection of like 40 DVDs or something for the
56:38
Speaker 6: whole run of the show. And just watching that infomercial
56:42
Speaker 6: thing in the middle of the night, I was like, this?
56:44
Speaker 6: And I remembered some of them, but I'm like, watching that,
56:47
Speaker 6: I'm like, this is some of the best comedy ever. Again,
56:50
Speaker 6: watching this, I'm like, this is more consistent of funny
56:54
Speaker 6: skits over just what I'm watching here than most episodes
56:58
Speaker 6: of Saturday Night Live I've seen for the last 20 years.
57:00
Speaker 6: I was like, these already are more consistent with the
57:05
Speaker 6: level of funny than... a lot of skit comedy ever is.
57:08
Speaker 6: So yeah, there's another example of somebody who's just a
57:11
Speaker 6: woman who's ridiculously funny.
57:12
Speaker 27: Yeah, I just kind of put her in that, I
57:15
Speaker 27: was already in that mind frame, but Lily Tomlin in
57:19
Speaker 27: that same class of, it's not about her being a woman,
57:22
Speaker 27: it's about her just being funny.
57:23
Speaker 6: She's just funny, yeah. She's just got that style and
57:27
Speaker 6: that timing, and yeah, everything about her performances is usually,
57:31
Speaker 6: even the stuff where she can cross over and she
57:33
Speaker 6: can do stuff that's a little more serious, which I
57:36
Speaker 6: think is more of like what she does with her
57:37
Speaker 6: one-woman show. I think it's a little more balanced, but.
57:40
Speaker 11: I think she was probably limited in this movie. I
57:44
Speaker 11: think movies probably limited her.
57:45
Speaker 6: I think movies in general, well, no, as she went on,
57:48
Speaker 6: like later, but at this point, she was still seen
57:51
Speaker 6: as nothing but comedy. Later, I mean, again, starting with Nashville,
57:56
Speaker 6: I mean, she started off more dramatic, and I think
57:58
Speaker 6: she came back around to do more dramatic stuff, but
58:01
Speaker 6: this middle area, they were giving her more stuff like this, and.
58:04
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to explain how much I hated
58:07
Speaker 1: the movie Short Cuts. But I hated it, like, a lot. Right.
58:12
Speaker 1: But Lily Tomlin and Tom Waits. Yeah.
58:16
Speaker 6: Those two together.
58:17
Speaker 1: They were in the right world.
58:19
Speaker 9: Yeah.
58:19
Speaker 1: They created the world that, to me, from reading Raymond
58:25
Speaker 1: Carver's stories, it's like, okay, now we're there.
58:28
Speaker 8: Yeah.
58:29
Speaker 1: We're in, and the rest of it made no sense
58:32
Speaker 1: to me and depressed me. I think the problem that
58:35
Speaker 1: I had with Short Cuts is.
58:39
Speaker 3: It had a certain amount of clout, that academic clout,
58:45
Speaker 3: even before you even started filming. And so it's supposed
58:49
Speaker 3: to be fantastic. It's supposed to be good. And if
58:52
Speaker 3: you don't get it, well, obviously you're not there yet.
58:57
Speaker 6: It's already stacking the deck against you.
58:59
Speaker 11: Yeah, and it didn't work for me.
59:02
Speaker 1: I knew all those stories, and all of them, there
59:05
Speaker 1: was like a distinctive thing about them. And maybe it's
59:08
Speaker 1: not just a Raymond Carver ending, but just what makes
59:11
Speaker 1: the story the story. And like the story about the
59:14
Speaker 1: neighbors taking care of somebody else's apartment, and it's like
59:19
Speaker 1: a tiny little story. They're just taking care of the apartment,
59:23
Speaker 1: and their neighbors, everything's happening for them. They're on vacation.
59:27
Speaker 1: Their jobs are moving ahead. And these people just feel
59:31
Speaker 1: like nothing's going on in their lives. And they go in,
59:34
Speaker 1: and they hang out in the apartment, and they just
59:37
Speaker 1: get comfortable there. They try on the clothes. They come back,
59:41
Speaker 1: and his wife is like, what were you doing over there?
59:45
Speaker 1: He's like, I was just watering the plants and stuff.
59:48
Speaker 1: But he goes over, and he lays on the bed.
59:51
Speaker 1: And then she goes over, and she's gone forever. And
59:55
Speaker 1: she comes back, and he's like, yeah, you know what?
59:58
Speaker 1: You see what I mean? She's like, yeah, I found
1:00:00
Speaker 1: some pictures.
1:00:02
Speaker 28: And then they go over together, but they've locked the
1:00:07
Speaker 28: keys in the apartment now, and their neighbors are coming
1:00:11
Speaker 28: home the next day, and the story ends.
1:00:13
Speaker 1: With their just leaning against the door. And it's that
1:00:17
Speaker 1: ache at the end of the story that is so
1:00:19
Speaker 1: Raymond Carver. And none of these stories went anywhere. It's just,
1:00:24
Speaker 1: let's have a fucking earthquake. It's like he tried to
1:00:28
Speaker 1: cram all the stories together into some sort of spaghetti
1:00:34
Speaker 1: of storylines and then have an earthquake. No, I just
1:00:39
Speaker 1: hated it so much. There's no way. And he said, oh,
1:00:44
Speaker 1: if you like, the fans of Raymond Carver won't like it.
1:00:46
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, because it sucks. But that said, Tom
1:00:54
Speaker 1: Waits and Emily Tomlin. Yeah, she's a really good actress.
1:00:59
Speaker 1: I guess I keep saying things suck.
1:01:05
Speaker 6: But, I mean, she really, I was thinking back, even
1:01:07
Speaker 6: at this point, she was doing stuff. I mean, she
1:01:10
Speaker 6: had the dramatic side because I remember watching that stuff from...
1:01:14
Speaker 6: her and Richard Pryor. I don't know if that was
1:01:17
Speaker 6: part of Pryor's place, that thing that he had, but
1:01:21
Speaker 6: there's those little scenes that they did together that they
1:01:24
Speaker 6: both kind of show amazing dramatic range that both of
1:01:30
Speaker 6: them being known for their comedy, especially at that point.
1:01:33
Speaker 6: It's like that kind of stuff, even early on, showed
1:01:37
Speaker 6: just how much she can do drama. I don't know
1:01:40
Speaker 6: that you get a whole lot of it in this movie, but.
1:01:44
Speaker 1: And, I don't know, it seems like it kept trying
1:01:46
Speaker 1: to come to a conclusion and then it just kept going. Like, no,
1:01:51
Speaker 1: that didn't quite work. Maybe if we do some more
1:01:54
Speaker 1: stuff for another 10 or 15 minutes we'll find an ending.
1:01:58
Speaker 6: And then we work in the evil league of evil.
1:02:00
Speaker 24: What you are about to hear, gentlemen, Sandra, will deliver
1:02:06
Speaker 24: us to the threshold of a new era of civilization.
1:02:11
Speaker 24: We the organization for world management, can be the trailblazers
1:02:17
Speaker 24: of tomorrow and be assured our place as the power
1:02:21
Speaker 24: elite forever.
1:02:25
Speaker 19: What Einstein did for time and space, high notes will
1:02:30
Speaker 19: do for shape and size. My studies show that a
1:02:37
Speaker 19: serum could be developed from the blood of what's her name?
1:02:41
Speaker 10: Pam?
1:02:42
Speaker 8: Pat, Pat Kramer. Yes, yes.
1:02:45
Speaker 29: A shrink serum, which can be used to reduce individuals
1:02:54
Speaker 29: or entire nations.
1:02:56
Speaker 10: And using a process not unlike water fluoridation. A few
1:03:00
Speaker 10: drops in a country's water system would be most effective
1:03:05
Speaker 10: for shrinking masses of people.
1:03:09
Speaker 1: Except, of course, for a few of us. Drink the world. Hey.
1:03:16
Speaker 1: I like it.
1:03:16
Speaker 6: In a way, I like that because it was so
1:03:18
Speaker 6: ridiculous and because, again, you work Henry Gibson into it
1:03:21
Speaker 6: and it's like that, well, that's obviously, I mean, he
1:03:24
Speaker 6: seems perfect in the middle of that setting of world domination, so.
1:03:29
Speaker 6: But it is funny that, yeah, I mean, they come
1:03:31
Speaker 6: up with this crazy plot to take over the world with.
1:03:34
Speaker 11: A shrinking people.
1:03:36
Speaker 1: Shrinking everybody, yeah.
1:03:37
Speaker 6: It's, yeah, it's so, like, over the top silly that
1:03:41
Speaker 6: I almost liked it because, like, again, at that point
1:03:44
Speaker 6: it took it to the, okay, well, you know, this
1:03:46
Speaker 6: movie's not going to be taken seriously anyway. Let's go
1:03:48
Speaker 6: ahead and go there.
1:03:49
Speaker 3: It reminded me of in Strange Brew where they were
1:03:53
Speaker 3: going to have beer that would make everybody take over
1:03:57
Speaker 3: the world by people mindlessly drinking beer.
1:03:59
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:04:00
Speaker 11: It made no sense.
1:04:01
Speaker 6: It doesn't have to.
1:04:02
Speaker 11: It was almost the same style.
1:04:03
Speaker 3: Where they had this ultra high-tech, you know, guys that
1:04:07
Speaker 3: are masterminds that are going to take over the world
1:04:10
Speaker 3: with beer.
1:04:12
Speaker 1: Again, maybe that did happen.
1:04:17
Speaker 6: Sometimes this country seems like it's run by beer.
1:04:21
Speaker 1: That was actually a documentary.
1:04:22
Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, it was. So, I don't know. Yeah, I
1:04:26
Speaker 6: kind of like, you know, anytime you have somebody with
1:04:29
Speaker 6: someone with a ridiculous plot to take over the world,
1:04:33
Speaker 6: maybe because I want one of my own, and I
1:04:35
Speaker 6: am devising one.
1:04:36
Speaker 11: Well, you've got to get a monkey.
1:04:37
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:04:38
Speaker 6: It's true.
1:04:39
Speaker 1: Let's start with the monkey. Well, mine is I would
1:04:41
Speaker 1: organize all the middle children of the world into an
1:04:45
Speaker 1: army because there's just so much bitterness and hatred pent
1:04:49
Speaker 1: up there.
1:04:49
Speaker 6: That's true. They're usually pretty damn hostile. All right, let's
1:04:55
Speaker 6: get to the important stuff.
1:04:56
Speaker 11: Okay.
1:04:56
Speaker 6: Let's get to the appearance by Mr.
1:04:59
Speaker 1: Whipple.
1:05:01
Speaker 16: Yep.
1:05:01
Speaker 12: Oh, yeah.
1:05:02
Speaker 8: I didn't even notice.
1:05:03
Speaker 1: Did anybody notice that I was the boom man on
1:05:05
Speaker 1: that movie?
1:05:06
Speaker 17: No.
1:05:06
Speaker 8: That what?
1:05:07
Speaker 1: I was the boom man, yeah.
1:05:10
Speaker 6: Well, I wonder what you were doing that week, so
1:05:12
Speaker 6: it's good to know. And then, once again, I think,
1:05:16
Speaker 6: just a little bit, I'm going to have to like
1:05:17
Speaker 6: any movie that has a guest appearance by Mike Douglas.
1:05:20
Speaker 8: Oh, yeah. No kidding.
1:05:21
Speaker 1: I had forgotten he existed. Actually, when I saw the
1:05:25
Speaker 1: name Mike Douglas, I'm like, what is Michael Douglas doing
1:05:28
Speaker 1: in this movie? And then he came out, and it's like, oh,
1:05:32
Speaker 1: that guy existed.
1:05:34
Speaker 11: Michael Douglas instead of.
1:05:36
Speaker 1: That was weird. I just completely forgot he existed.
1:05:39
Speaker 6: This was a good little role. He's got another one?
1:05:41
Speaker 6: I think we need to get to that movie, too,
1:05:43
Speaker 6: because that might be the most awesome cameo ever, but
1:05:46
Speaker 6: we'll get to that later. But yeah, Mike Douglas. Needs
1:05:49
Speaker 6: to be in more movies. I don't know what he's
1:05:50
Speaker 6: doing these days. I don't know why he's not in
1:05:52
Speaker 6: more movies.
1:05:54
Speaker 1: I think now he's married to Catherine C.
1:05:56
Speaker 6: Is that what happened to him? I wondered.
1:06:00
Speaker 1: Oh, man. Hey, what's going on here? What do you
1:06:03
Speaker 1: think you're doing? This is against regulation. You could get
1:06:09
Speaker 1: us all in a lot of trouble.
1:06:11
Speaker 8: We're already in a lot of trouble.
1:06:13
Speaker 1: Dr.
1:06:14
Speaker 8: Nortz is planning to use me to shrink the world.
1:06:17
Speaker 8: I know you don't believe me, but look in my folder.
1:06:20
Speaker 10: Look, read page 10, the pink page.
1:06:23
Speaker 8: Look, read it, you'll see.
1:06:25
Speaker 1: Shrink the world? Sydney too? All kinds of people, everybody.
1:06:31
Speaker 12: Oh, please.
1:06:31
Speaker 8: If you care about Sydney, if you care about anything,
1:06:36
Speaker 8: let me go.
1:06:38
Speaker 1: They really are.
1:06:38
Speaker 11: Planning to shrink the world.
1:06:40
Speaker 1: I couldn't place where I knew that kid from the lab.
1:06:45
Speaker 1: I've seen him in stuff.
1:06:48
Speaker 6: And again, I think this is part of why I
1:06:50
Speaker 6: liked it so much as a kid. And it's funny
1:06:53
Speaker 6: that he comes in at the dumber portion of the movie.
1:06:55
Speaker 6: But I remember as a kid, and this is, again,
1:06:59
Speaker 6: going back to having issues with Friday Night Live, I
1:07:02
Speaker 6: remember being a big fan of Fridays.
1:07:04
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:07:05
Speaker 6: Friday's was the competition that came on, I guess early, yeah,
1:07:09
Speaker 6: like 80, I think it started. And it was the
1:07:12
Speaker 6: Friday night version of Saturday Night Live. And he was...
1:07:17
Speaker 6: he became like one of the big stars on that.
1:07:19
Speaker 6: And he, he definitely, I mean, you see there when
1:07:22
Speaker 6: he starts acting goofy, that's his thing. So he sort
1:07:25
Speaker 6: of stole the show. He used to do these, these crazy,
1:07:28
Speaker 6: I thought that was the funniest thing ever. If I
1:07:29
Speaker 6: saw it now, it's probably dumb, but he, yeah, he became,
1:07:33
Speaker 6: that was, if I remember the same series that, um,
1:07:36
Speaker 6: Michael Richards was on.
1:07:37
Speaker 9: Yeah.
1:07:37
Speaker 6: They both kind of fell into that, you know, the
1:07:39
Speaker 6: alternative Saturday night live show. So that's where I knew
1:07:43
Speaker 6: him from even then. And then, yeah, he's, in the
1:07:47
Speaker 6: you know classic Jekyll and Hyde together again which I
1:07:50
Speaker 6: think we need to put.
1:07:50
Speaker 1: That on the list too but I recognize his voice
1:07:53
Speaker 1: more than anything and I don't know.
1:07:55
Speaker 6: He's done a ton of tv he may have been
1:07:58
Speaker 6: voice work but yeah he's been in a lot of
1:08:00
Speaker 6: tv over the years so yeah again what is his
1:08:05
Speaker 6: name the guy in the lab yeah Rob yeah it's
1:08:09
Speaker 6: it's Mark Blankfield is his name and he's Yeah, he's
1:08:12
Speaker 6: done a ton of work over the years and been
1:08:14
Speaker 6: in just about everything for an episode. So, yeah, he's
1:08:18
Speaker 6: probably familiar to everybody, even if you don't know where.
1:08:21
Speaker 6: But that's where, yeah, I remembered him from Fridays at
1:08:24
Speaker 6: the time, which, again, may not even be a good
1:08:26
Speaker 6: show if I go back and watch it now.
1:08:28
Speaker 1: So the comedian Julie.
1:08:30
Speaker 6: Brown was in this. What was she listed as?
1:08:34
Speaker 11: She's just listed as TV personality. So it must have
1:08:38
Speaker 11: been from one of the interviews.
1:08:40
Speaker 6: Now I might have to go back and watch it.
1:08:43
Speaker 30: Could have been, but yeah, I just listed her as... Because, man,
1:08:48
Speaker 30: me and Julie Brown... This movie was so ugly. Man,
1:08:52
Speaker 30: some of the hair in this movie.
1:08:54
Speaker 6: Oh, like, yeah, all the surrounding characters. Well, it's as
1:08:59
Speaker 6: bad as the outfit. i mean again i'm hoping it was.
1:09:01
Speaker 3: Done on purpose yeah because.
1:09:04
Speaker 6: Yeah the outfits were terrible the hair was terrible the
1:09:07
Speaker 6: cars the houses so i'm hoping it was all on
1:09:11
Speaker 6: purpose but it might have just been left over 70s
1:09:14
Speaker 6: i don't know right i don't.
1:09:16
Speaker 3: Know who was the actress that um that played the
1:09:20
Speaker 3: mother that they were trying to sell the canned cheese to.
1:09:24
Speaker 11: Oh, yeah.
1:09:26
Speaker 1: For some reason, I thought I recognized her.
1:09:28
Speaker 11: She looked, seemed like, oh, I should know who that was.
1:09:31
Speaker 3: I didn't know if it was supposed to be a
1:09:32
Speaker 3: cameo or not, or I could just be completely wrong.
1:09:35
Speaker 6: I don't know. Wasn't she on Pee Wee's Playhouse?
1:09:37
Speaker 1: That was my mom. Because I was the boom man.
1:09:42
Speaker 6: Right. So you had the inside track to get her
1:09:45
Speaker 6: that gig.
1:09:45
Speaker 1: I got my mom, I guess.
1:09:47
Speaker 11: Concepcion had the last name Smith, by the way, the actress.
1:09:51
Speaker 6: Doesn't seem very Concepcion-y. No.
1:09:53
Speaker 1: She could wear that little outfit, though, couldn't she?
1:09:57
Speaker 8: Yeah.
1:09:58
Speaker 1: I thought she was much more attractive without that outfit.
1:10:01
Speaker 1: She was, but.
1:10:02
Speaker 6: I wouldn't have sold on the hair, though. The outfit
1:10:05
Speaker 6: was fine. The hair was not good.
1:10:07
Speaker 1: That weird.
1:10:07
Speaker 6: Front butt.
1:10:08
Speaker 11: Yeah. Front butt.
1:10:10
Speaker 3: It was that 80s high back butt, too, where it
1:10:14
Speaker 3: was like... They used their lower back as part of
1:10:16
Speaker 3: their butt.
1:10:17
Speaker 1: It just didn't work. It was so flash dance to me.
1:10:20
Speaker 8: Yeah.
1:10:23
Speaker 6: I still think it's the little moments. Like when they
1:10:25
Speaker 6: come out of the institute and they're taking that screaming
1:10:28
Speaker 6: box in. I'm sorry, that killed me. The fact that
1:10:34
Speaker 6: nobody reacts to it. They just walk down the stairs
1:10:37
Speaker 6: and they're all distraught over their own story. And I
1:10:40
Speaker 6: was just like, does nobody else see that box screaming
1:10:43
Speaker 6: and moving?
1:10:45
Speaker 11: I had it down low because it was late at
1:10:47
Speaker 11: night and kids and everything.
1:10:50
Speaker 3: And I had the, because a lot of times I'll
1:10:52
Speaker 3: turn it down low enough and put the subtitles on.
1:10:55
Speaker 3: The subtitles was just for about 30 seconds, you know,
1:11:01
Speaker 3: from the time they start walking out the door until
1:11:03
Speaker 3: they're in the car, it just said, ah, ah.
1:11:06
Speaker 11: It didn't say anything else, just ah.
1:11:10
Speaker 14: And I nod.
1:11:11
Speaker 1: The giggle phase from that part.
1:11:13
Speaker 6: See, I'm telling you. That was my response. I was
1:11:16
Speaker 6: just like, that's funny.
1:11:17
Speaker 11: If you hadn't seen that box, it would have been
1:11:19
Speaker 11: even funnier.
1:11:23
Speaker 8: I just watched this movie, but I don't remember that part.
1:11:26
Speaker 8: I think I was busy burning myself with a hot
1:11:28
Speaker 8: glue gun.
1:11:32
Speaker 6: I don't want to know what you were up to
1:11:33
Speaker 6: at this point.
1:11:33
Speaker 11: There's like a little hand coming out of a box.
1:11:35
Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. You were on Project Runway.
1:11:38
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was on Project Runway.
1:11:41
Speaker 1: And your model had gained weight, and you had to, like,
1:11:44
Speaker 1: hot glue the.
1:11:45
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:11:47
Speaker 16: Awful.
1:11:48
Speaker 8: You know, speaking of... My boyfriend's dad was telling me
1:11:52
Speaker 8: the story how he used to run into men all
1:11:54
Speaker 8: the time that looked exactly like his dad. Like, this
1:11:58
Speaker 8: has happened two times. He'd see guys, like, who looked
1:12:00
Speaker 8: exactly like his dad. And we were talking about how
1:12:03
Speaker 8: everyone supposedly has, like, seven exact lookalikes in the world.
1:12:08
Speaker 8: And it's just like, aside from the Project Runway girl,
1:12:10
Speaker 8: I don't think I know of any.
1:12:13
Speaker 1: It's weird because people are always mistaking other people for me.
1:12:18
Speaker 1: And apparently the Fonz thought I was somebody.
1:12:21
Speaker 11: He did.
1:12:22
Speaker 1: Very nice to meet you. I think he thought I
1:12:24
Speaker 1: was Sling Blade. I don't know what he thought. He
1:12:29
Speaker 1: thought I was somebody.
1:12:31
Speaker 6: We'll go with it. We'll make use of it. My
1:12:34
Speaker 6: brother is like.
1:12:35
Speaker 1: went to a concert when we were on our teens
1:12:38
Speaker 1: and I didn't go. And he apparently saw somebody there
1:12:41
Speaker 1: who looked just like me and went up and started
1:12:43
Speaker 1: talking to him and said, hey, I didn't think you
1:12:45
Speaker 1: were going to go after.
1:12:46
Speaker 6: You get here.
1:12:47
Speaker 1: And the guy just backed away from him. But that
1:12:51
Speaker 1: happens to me all the time. There are all these
1:12:53
Speaker 1: people that look more or less like me.
1:12:55
Speaker 3: I went to the drive-thru at the Dairy Queen to
1:12:58
Speaker 3: get a coffee once, which they didn't have good coffee
1:13:01
Speaker 3: at all.
1:13:02
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's your first mistake.
1:13:03
Speaker 11: But I was in a hurry.
1:13:05
Speaker 5: And.
1:13:06
Speaker 3: pulled up, it's early in the morning, and I didn't
1:13:07
Speaker 3: even think of much, and she goes, she goes.
1:13:11
Speaker 11: Oh, you're not getting the twin pack today?
1:13:13
Speaker 1: And I said, what?
1:13:16
Speaker 11: And she goes, you always get the twin pack.
1:13:18
Speaker 1: I said, I've never been to this Dairy Queen place.
1:13:21
Speaker 11: And I just drove off. She had to have thought
1:13:25
Speaker 11: that I was somebody else.
1:13:27
Speaker 1: Wait, you just drove off at that point? Well, I
1:13:29
Speaker 1: got my coffee and drove off.
1:13:30
Speaker 6: He didn't pay for it. It would have been much
1:13:34
Speaker 6: cooler if you just went, fuck this.
1:13:36
Speaker 11: I've never been here before.
1:13:40
Speaker 14: See ya.
1:13:41
Speaker 11: Right, but it was so awkward. And then as I'm
1:13:46
Speaker 11: driving down the road drinking my bad coffee thinking, oh...
1:13:49
Speaker 11: She thought I was somebody.
1:13:50
Speaker 1: She really thought I was someone else.
1:13:54
Speaker 11: You didn't get your twin pack today.
1:13:56
Speaker 6: Why didn't you get your twin pack?
1:13:57
Speaker 1: I didn't know what a twin pack was.
1:13:58
Speaker 3: I was mentioning it to somebody and they said, yeah,
1:13:59
Speaker 3: that's two sausage biscuits that.
1:14:01
Speaker 1: Come in the same pack. I said, what if you
1:14:03
Speaker 1: want one? He said, no, you get two.
1:14:06
Speaker 11: Anyway, sorry if you want one.
1:14:08
Speaker 1: You're not talking about your movie.
1:14:10
Speaker 8: Twin packs.
1:14:12
Speaker 1: That's right.
1:14:13
Speaker 6: This was definitely that era of PG movies that sometimes
1:14:19
Speaker 6: weren't PG anymore.
1:14:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because, you know, as a parent, you
1:14:24
Speaker 1: remember movies like, you know, the R rating changed.
1:14:27
Speaker 6: Oh, drastically at this point.
1:14:30
Speaker 1: And also just other things changed. There were like some
1:14:33
Speaker 1: pretty scuzzy things back in the 70s that you think, oh,
1:14:38
Speaker 1: it'll be nice, you know, for the kids to watch
1:14:40
Speaker 1: this movie, I remember. And then they're watching it and
1:14:43
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, God. Oh, God.
1:14:47
Speaker 8: Yeah.
1:14:47
Speaker 1: That's not right.
1:14:48
Speaker 6: Well, that's, yeah, I'm watching this, and I remember it
1:14:51
Speaker 6: as kind of like this family-friendly movie, and like two
1:14:53
Speaker 6: minutes in, they're like, hey, what does this taste like?
1:14:56
Speaker 6: This tastes like shit. I was just like, oh.
1:14:59
Speaker 11: The kid's giving them.
1:15:00
Speaker 6: Yeah. The kids are making obscene gestures, and I was
1:15:03
Speaker 6: just like, yeah, this was that era when you could
1:15:06
Speaker 6: just kind of do whatever the hell you wanted and
1:15:07
Speaker 6: still be PG.
1:15:08
Speaker 8: The most disturbing part of this movie, I think, is
1:15:11
Speaker 8: where the dad comes home. And the kids sneak out
1:15:14
Speaker 8: of bed, and they're.
1:15:16
Speaker 6: Like.
1:15:17
Speaker 8: And then they're like, are you trying to listen at
1:15:19
Speaker 8: the door? And I'm like, yeah, they are.
1:15:21
Speaker 14: And they've got, like, green stuff around them.
1:15:24
Speaker 1: Just to make it nicer. And it's not, are they
1:15:27
Speaker 1: doing it? It's, are they doing it yet?
1:15:28
Speaker 6: Yeah. And then they just look at each other and
1:15:31
Speaker 6: knowingly nod. Yep. Fucking.
1:15:35
Speaker 17: I don't know.
1:15:35
Speaker 6: That was really creepy. Yeah, that part was kind of disturbing. Yeah.
1:15:40
Speaker 11: With their children of the corn cuts.
1:15:42
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:15:42
Speaker 8: You know, those kids look exactly like a kid in
1:15:46
Speaker 8: another movie, and I can't think of what movie.
1:15:48
Speaker 6: That kid was probably in a bunch of movies.
1:15:49
Speaker 11: No, it's like.
1:15:51
Speaker 6: A bad haircut, yeah.
1:15:53
Speaker 8: Maybe just all kids looked like that.
1:15:55
Speaker 6: At that point, yeah. I think everybody had that same haircut.
1:15:59
Speaker 8: I think my mom had that haircut in the 80s.
1:16:01
Speaker 1: She was an adult.
1:16:02
Speaker 8: She definitely has an 80s haircut still, but.
1:16:07
Speaker 6: A totally different one. I do like when it switches
1:16:12
Speaker 6: from movie into commercial mode, which I guess would be
1:16:16
Speaker 6: making the statement that they're trying to make, but when
1:16:18
Speaker 6: your life actually becomes a commercial and suddenly they're you know,
1:16:24
Speaker 6: the theme song's playing, and you're gluing it together with
1:16:26
Speaker 6: the product, and it really, like, it could be taken
1:16:28
Speaker 6: out and used as a commercial. Oh, yeah. I don't know,
1:16:30
Speaker 6: I thought that was kind of, like, clever, the way
1:16:32
Speaker 6: they worked it in.
1:16:33
Speaker 8: It made me think of Six Feet Under. You know,
1:16:37
Speaker 8: have you, no, in Six Feet Under, have you ever
1:16:39
Speaker 8: seen it?
1:16:40
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't have that channel.
1:16:41
Speaker 8: Okay. Well, it's like, they'll be doing something, and then
1:16:44
Speaker 8: it'll cut away to this, like, cheesy commercial for, like,
1:16:48
Speaker 8: some weird mortuary-related product.
1:16:50
Speaker 9: Yeah.
1:16:51
Speaker 8: Like, face, pace, face, pace. I don't know.
1:16:56
Speaker 6: Again, I thought that was cool. That was still in
1:16:59
Speaker 6: the first half when they were kind of working some
1:17:01
Speaker 6: clever stuff in there.
1:17:02
Speaker 1: Do you all have the kinds of friends, like, you know,
1:17:05
Speaker 1: I've been really focused on my kids and, like, maybe
1:17:08
Speaker 1: not as close to people as I could be otherwise,
1:17:11
Speaker 1: but do you have friends who, like, if a vase
1:17:14
Speaker 1: in your house broke, would stand around and watch you
1:17:18
Speaker 1: put it back together.
1:17:20
Speaker 6: Well, it becomes an event then. I mean, you're all
1:17:22
Speaker 6: going to gather around and watch it.
1:17:24
Speaker 11: That looks like, until that point, a swingers party.
1:17:26
Speaker 13: Yeah.
1:17:27
Speaker 6: It kind of, but maybe that was just those pink pants.
1:17:29
Speaker 3: Nobody gets to screw until the vase gets fixed.
1:17:33
Speaker 1: It looks like a swingers party and everybody's ugly.
1:17:37
Speaker 6: Yeah. Isn't that how they work?
1:17:40
Speaker 1: Lily Tomlin, I give her a pass for some reason.
1:17:44
Speaker 1: There's just something about her.
1:17:46
Speaker 6: And the other Lily Tomlin.
1:17:49
Speaker 1: I don't know about the other Lily Tomlin. I don't
1:17:51
Speaker 1: think I could go that far. You know, she wasn't
1:17:53
Speaker 1: that dissimilar.
1:17:54
Speaker 6: No, that's the thing.
1:17:55
Speaker 1: I was like, if you're going to have a, you know,
1:17:57
Speaker 1: why wouldn't they get a point of it? That just
1:18:00
Speaker 1: seems so lazy. There's a laziness at work in that movie.
1:18:04
Speaker 6: Again, I think it was just advertising your star. And
1:18:07
Speaker 6: I think she was just, I've got fans from this,
1:18:10
Speaker 6: I've got fans from this, and I'm going to kind
1:18:12
Speaker 6: of work them all into one project.
1:18:13
Speaker 1: And she deserves her fans.
1:18:14
Speaker 16: Yeah.
1:18:15
Speaker 1: You know, but. It's not one of, I'm just saying
1:18:17
Speaker 1: it's not one of those projects, it banks on you
1:18:21
Speaker 1: loving Lily Talman. It's not one of the ones that
1:18:23
Speaker 1: makes you love her.
1:18:24
Speaker 9: No.
1:18:25
Speaker 6: Well, it was one of those, I saw it and
1:18:28
Speaker 6: I kind of went, they do look a little too close.
1:18:30
Speaker 6: I was like, most people are kind of dumb. I'm like,
1:18:33
Speaker 6: I'm surprised it didn't confuse people more than it probably did.
1:18:36
Speaker 6: But I'm just like, you would think they would assume
1:18:39
Speaker 6: that the audience is dumb and make her look really different.
1:18:42
Speaker 6: But she's just kind of a shade different. I don't know.
1:18:46
Speaker 8: The Galaxy Glue song at the end of the movie,
1:18:49
Speaker 8: it's like it was kind of about Galaxy Glue and
1:18:51
Speaker 8: then also about something completely different. And you're like, what
1:18:54
Speaker 8: the fuck?
1:18:55
Speaker 11: It's still about glue?
1:18:56
Speaker 8: I don't get it.
1:18:57
Speaker 11: It was catchy as hell.
1:18:58
Speaker 6: That song was epic. I remember as a kid going
1:19:01
Speaker 6: around with that stuck in my head. It doesn't fucking sense.
1:19:03
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter.
1:19:04
Speaker 8: It's about glue and then it's about something else. But
1:19:06
Speaker 8: you don't know why. You're just like, what?
1:19:08
Speaker 6: That song's awesome, I'm sorry.
1:19:10
Speaker 1: Still no glue?
1:19:12
Speaker 6: If the movie didn't need to exist for any other
1:19:14
Speaker 6: reason than for that song to come into being, then
1:19:17
Speaker 6: it's worth it. That song is ridiculous and too damn catchy,
1:19:22
Speaker 6: and you know we're going out on it, so everybody
1:19:25
Speaker 6: else is going to experience the wonder of the Galaxy
1:19:27
Speaker 6: Glue song. It's a jingle, and then it's a song,
1:19:31
Speaker 6: and then it keeps going on. Oh, wait, those already exist.
1:19:35
Speaker 6: That's a real word.
1:19:36
Speaker 1: Damn it.
1:19:37
Speaker 8: It's a John and John. God, there needs to be
1:19:42
Speaker 8: a better word for this.
1:19:43
Speaker 6: You know, that probably is.
1:19:44
Speaker 3: That's very, you know, when you deconstruct single, a song,
1:19:50
Speaker 3: it is kind of a, especially with pop, it is
1:19:52
Speaker 3: kind of a single and it is a song.
1:19:54
Speaker 11: It's very, very astute of you.
1:19:56
Speaker 1: I've never thought about that before.
1:19:59
Speaker 8: I just like, creating etymology from my ass.
1:20:04
Speaker 1: Nice.
1:20:05
Speaker 11: You learn that with children, too.
1:20:07
Speaker 1: You just make shit up and they buy it.
1:20:11
Speaker 8: Santa Claus and God stuff, yeah. I can't wait till
1:20:16
Speaker 8: that day when I can just be like, you know,
1:20:18
Speaker 8: you know the reason that the grass is green? Gnome poop.
1:20:25
Speaker 6: I'm not putting you in charge of my non-existent children.
1:20:28
Speaker 8: Eh, I'd be fine. Actually, I was just thinking about how,
1:20:33
Speaker 8: what things that my niece, who's almost two, is ready for, like,
1:20:40
Speaker 8: to be exposed to culturally.
1:20:42
Speaker 5: Oh, God.
1:20:42
Speaker 8: I'm just like, what does she need to know?
1:20:45
Speaker 1: That's so hard.
1:20:46
Speaker 6: At this constant thing, like, you know. What are they
1:20:49
Speaker 6: ready for, yeah. It's a judgment call.
1:20:54
Speaker 1: I kind of gave up on it at some point. Because,
1:20:57
Speaker 1: you know, nowadays in school, like, The reading list, there
1:21:00
Speaker 1: are all these new books that kids are reading, and
1:21:03
Speaker 1: I think they're like, oh, contemporary stuff, it gets kids involved,
1:21:07
Speaker 1: and that's great, but they don't really read all the
1:21:09
Speaker 1: stuff that they probably ought to read. Or at least
1:21:14
Speaker 1: where my kids were, I was really happy with their
1:21:17
Speaker 1: school and everything, except what they're reading. And I'd hear
1:21:22
Speaker 1: kids at another school are reading Kafka, and it's like,
1:21:25
Speaker 1: why can't we do that? But this year, my daughter's
1:21:29
Speaker 1: reading Hamlet and Frankenstein.
1:21:32
Speaker 8: Why? I mean, that's weird that they just haven't... I
1:21:36
Speaker 8: thought you were just expected to read that in school
1:21:38
Speaker 8: or not. Shouldn't you just have read that already?
1:21:41
Speaker 1: No. No, apparently not. They've been reading all sorts of
1:21:44
Speaker 1: other crap that I hate. And then she had this...
1:21:48
Speaker 1: hipster doofus English teacher one year when you'd think some
1:21:51
Speaker 1: of that would have got done. She was just reading
1:21:55
Speaker 1: bizarre fantasy crap that he liked because he's a religious pothead.
1:22:00
Speaker 6: That's a magical combination.
1:22:03
Speaker 8: Like Robert Anton Wilson or something?
1:22:07
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to get in trouble, but she read
1:22:10
Speaker 1: two books of Lord of the Rings.
1:22:13
Speaker 6: Another book of Lord of the Rings in school? It
1:22:18
Speaker 6: doesn't necessarily seem like a school book. I remember being
1:22:21
Speaker 6: a nerdy kid and reading that, but it was on
1:22:23
Speaker 6: my own.
1:22:23
Speaker 1: People who are going to read that are going to
1:22:25
Speaker 1: read that. For crying out loud. And then that was
1:22:29
Speaker 1: the year that the kids at another school were reading Kafka.
1:22:33
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, come on, you're not going to
1:22:36
Speaker 1: read another one? Yes, they read another one.
1:22:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, you introduce them to it, and if they like it,
1:22:41
Speaker 3: then they'll search it out on Earth.
1:22:43
Speaker 11: That's the point.
1:22:44
Speaker 8: Sure.
1:22:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, Frankenstein. And it occurred to me, because we were
1:22:47
Speaker 1: talking about that doppelganger thing earlier in the pre-show. During
1:22:53
Speaker 1: the pre-show, we were talking about the Fight Club doppelganger thing.
1:22:57
Speaker 1: It occurred to me, like, I really loved Frankenstein when
1:22:59
Speaker 1: I was a kid, the book. It was one of
1:23:01
Speaker 1: the first books that appealed to me intellectually. But it
1:23:04
Speaker 1: occurred to me, it never occurred to me before, that, like, Dr.
1:23:08
Speaker 1: Frankenstein and the Monster... sort of a doppelganger relationship you.
1:23:12
Speaker 2: Become a monster i never thought about that yeah but
1:23:16
Speaker 2: uh it once you think about it you can't unthink
1:23:21
Speaker 2: it it like it seems like well that could be
1:23:23
Speaker 2: an obvious way of looking at.
1:23:25
Speaker 6: It almost becomes the theme that they keep going back
1:23:28
Speaker 6: to when they keep remaking the story in different forms.
1:23:32
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah and that was also uh one of those
1:23:35
Speaker 1: things that when I was a kid, like the difference
1:23:38
Speaker 1: between the book and the movie versions just flabbergasted me until,
1:23:42
Speaker 1: you know, there was, you know, they, they, there were
1:23:45
Speaker 1: a couple of versions that tried to do the real book.
1:23:48
Speaker 29: Yeah.
1:23:49
Speaker 1: Uh, cause it, the subtext was almost like the opposite. Yeah.
1:23:55
Speaker 1: It's like, why would they do that? Just to piss
1:23:58
Speaker 1: me off?
1:23:58
Speaker 6: Exactly.
1:23:59
Speaker 10: Yeah.
1:24:00
Speaker 6: Well said, what can I do to piss?
1:24:02
Speaker 10: Yeah.
1:24:03
Speaker 9: Yeah.
1:24:05
Speaker 1: There's going to be a guy that we need to
1:24:07
Speaker 1: piss off.
1:24:08
Speaker 6: He's not here yet, but I know he's coming. What
1:24:11
Speaker 6: can I do? All right, so are we ready to
1:24:15
Speaker 6: get to the wrap-up on this?
1:24:16
Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap it up.
1:24:17
Speaker 6: So, in our favorite part of the movie, the end,
1:24:20
Speaker 6: it really does, and it's funny that you used that
1:24:22
Speaker 6: term earlier, because that's exactly what I thought of as
1:24:25
Speaker 6: I'm watching... the cops. I'm like, this has become Keystone Cops.
1:24:29
Speaker 6: I mean, they're just running around, tripping over each other,
1:24:32
Speaker 6: and it's exactly, yeah, it's.
1:24:34
Speaker 1: Going in and out.
1:24:35
Speaker 11: The door scene of going in and out.
1:24:38
Speaker 6: I felt like a segment in Scooby-Doo. Like, they might
1:24:41
Speaker 6: have just started playing the music.
1:24:42
Speaker 1: Well, that kid has sort of a shaggy vibe about him.
1:24:47
Speaker 1: I felt that watching the movie, that he could play shaggy.
1:24:50
Speaker 6: I guess so. But yeah, it's definitely got that, like,
1:24:53
Speaker 6: all the higher... comedy of a Scooby-Doo segment. And then
1:25:00
Speaker 6: the Keystone Cut. So again, they're going with really basics here.
1:25:02
Speaker 6: They're really drawing from some pretty basic levels of comedy,
1:25:06
Speaker 6: some of which don't hold up as the years go on.
1:25:10
Speaker 6: And then, yeah, the highbrow comedy of a gorilla flipping
1:25:12
Speaker 6: you off. So it does... Take sort of a downwards
1:25:16
Speaker 6: dive there.
1:25:17
Speaker 11: You know, I kind of... I laughed at that one because.
1:25:20
Speaker 1: I.
1:25:21
Speaker 3: Mean, it was completely intentional that he was the most
1:25:24
Speaker 3: human of all the people there.
1:25:25
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:25:26
Speaker 11: And that, you know.
1:25:28
Speaker 11: And the smartest one in the room, too. And so.
1:25:32
Speaker 1: I don't know.
1:25:34
Speaker 3: Because I do think that there's a certain part of
1:25:36
Speaker 3: it that was, this is the movie we want.
1:25:38
Speaker 11: To do and this is the movie that we had
1:25:40
Speaker 11: to make.
1:25:40
Speaker 9: Yeah.
1:25:41
Speaker 5: And.
1:25:43
Speaker 11: He flips off, you know, it's the camera angle of
1:25:46
Speaker 11: he's facing you. And he flips you off.
1:25:49
Speaker 3: He doesn't flip off, you know, a scanning picture.
1:25:54
Speaker 11: And so it's kind of like a, yeah, fuck you. So,
1:25:58
Speaker 11: I don't know.
1:25:59
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I see what they're doing there.
1:26:01
Speaker 11: So I kind of like that part.
1:26:04
Speaker 6: Jill Schumacher hates this. I see what you're saying.
1:26:06
Speaker 11: You know, maybe the people that, I don't know. I
1:26:11
Speaker 11: hope that's what it.
1:26:12
Speaker 1: Was, perhaps.
1:26:13
Speaker 6: While we're on Sidney, I guess we have to give credit.
1:26:17
Speaker 6: That is Rick Baker. He played Sidney and did the makeup,
1:26:23
Speaker 6: and this was the same year that he got the
1:26:26
Speaker 6: Oscar for the special recognition, the first year they ever
1:26:29
Speaker 6: gave an Oscar for Best Special Effects Makeup. and he
1:26:33
Speaker 6: got that for American Werewolf that year. So this is
1:26:36
Speaker 6: actually that, right as he was starting, right as that
1:26:39
Speaker 6: whole industry was starting to kind of be taken seriously
1:26:42
Speaker 6: and being, you know, sort of that being a key
1:26:45
Speaker 6: thing when you're doing this kind of a project is
1:26:47
Speaker 6: to bring in somebody who actually knows what they're doing,
1:26:49
Speaker 6: and it's about as good as a fake gorilla can look.
1:26:52
Speaker 6: I mean, you just can't make a gorilla look real,
1:26:56
Speaker 6: you know? It's like, that's why they CG them all now.
1:26:59
Speaker 6: That's why you get, you know, like the new version
1:27:02
Speaker 6: of King Kong, because... Otherwise, it's either a mechanical gorilla
1:27:05
Speaker 6: or it's a guy in a suit, neither of which
1:27:07
Speaker 6: really play like a real gorilla. You can get close.
1:27:10
Speaker 6: You can get decent shots here and there, but it's
1:27:13
Speaker 6: just never. There's something about it that can never look
1:27:17
Speaker 6: exactly right.
1:27:18
Speaker 11: I thought it was pretty good.
1:27:20
Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, again, that's, you know, you've got
1:27:22
Speaker 6: somebody who knows what they're doing. So he did about
1:27:24
Speaker 6: as good as you can do doing makeup on somebody
1:27:27
Speaker 6: to look like a gorilla.
1:27:28
Speaker 1: I still think that was unnecessary.
1:27:30
Speaker 17: Yeah.
1:27:31
Speaker 6: The whole part. The only thing I can see is
1:27:33
Speaker 6: then you've got her tiny. So you do work in this,
1:27:36
Speaker 6: this whole King Kong overtone that you get him carrying
1:27:40
Speaker 6: her around there.
1:27:41
Speaker 9: Yeah.
1:27:41
Speaker 6: I thought that's what they were going to, again, maybe
1:27:43
Speaker 6: budget was cut. And instead of climbing the building, he
1:27:46
Speaker 6: gets to go in a parking lot of a grocery store. So,
1:27:48
Speaker 6: I mean, it, Again, maybe that was all budget cuts
1:27:51
Speaker 6: that threw that off. But yeah, it does seem like
1:27:53
Speaker 6: there's a very obvious attempt to do a King Kong
1:27:58
Speaker 6: overtone here. And they don't do that much with it,
1:28:00
Speaker 6: but yeah, it's definitely there.
1:28:02
Speaker 3: I got a chuckle when they're all sitting around watching
1:28:06
Speaker 3: the news conference. Or, excuse me, they're filming her giving
1:28:12
Speaker 3: her little speech before she falls into the goo.
1:28:15
Speaker 11: And they're all standing around in a huddle looking over her.
1:28:19
Speaker 11: And nobody pays.
1:28:20
Speaker 3: Attention to the fact that they're standing next to you
1:28:22
Speaker 3: in a crowd with a gorilla. He's kind of like
1:28:26
Speaker 3: hanging out shoulder to shoulder with him.
1:28:27
Speaker 1: And he's watching, paying attention too.
1:28:30
Speaker 11: Nobody gives a damn.
1:28:32
Speaker 1: To me, the part that.
1:28:33
Speaker 6: Was even more ridiculous and funny was, when they were
1:28:40
Speaker 6: done and she finishes her speech, and then they all
1:28:43
Speaker 6: just sort of walk away, including the gorilla.
1:28:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, I noticed that. That was drawn.
1:28:50
Speaker 6: He and Mark just sort of wander off together, and
1:28:53
Speaker 6: I was just like, does anybody notice that gorilla.
1:28:56
Speaker 1: In the parking lot?
1:28:57
Speaker 6: It's dangerous. gorilla which jump ahead a few minutes to
1:29:01
Speaker 6: the next moment when i went whoa whoa did they
1:29:03
Speaker 6: just give people gorillas you can just have one in
1:29:07
Speaker 6: your bed just.
1:29:08
Speaker 11: Sitting in the kid's bed can we keep him of
1:29:11
Speaker 11: course of course i was like he's not he's not
1:29:15
Speaker 11: a stray dog it's a fucking gorilla.
1:29:18
Speaker 3: Look what the gorilla taught me to do with my
1:29:20
Speaker 3: fingers I'm sure those kids already knew how to do that.
1:29:23
Speaker 11: They knew a lot already.
1:29:25
Speaker 1: You know, there really are a lot of stories about
1:29:28
Speaker 1: people who have tried to keep, like... Pets.
1:29:32
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:29:32
Speaker 6: That don't need to be pets.
1:29:34
Speaker 1: And they are pets, you know, for a while until
1:29:37
Speaker 1: one day they're not. And then they just rip people
1:29:39
Speaker 1: to pieces.
1:29:41
Speaker 11: Well, that chimpanzee a few years ago... Did it maul her?
1:29:45
Speaker 1: Did she die?
1:29:46
Speaker 11: It like ripped her arms off.
1:29:48
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking of. And then there were
1:29:51
Speaker 1: some other stories.
1:29:53
Speaker 6: Well, then this will be a happy ending because those
1:29:55
Speaker 6: kids will be mauled. And you really didn't like those kids.
1:29:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really didn't. And it reminds me, who's the cartoonist?
1:30:02
Speaker 1: Was it, oh, am I thinking of Roz Chast? No,
1:30:05
Speaker 1: there's cartoonists who used to turn up on Letterman every
1:30:08
Speaker 1: now and then. It's not Roz Chast. It's just somebody
1:30:11
Speaker 1: I associate with her. But she's really funny, but she
1:30:15
Speaker 1: was telling a story about her trip to Africa, and
1:30:20
Speaker 1: they're kind of on safari, and they're in a jeep,
1:30:23
Speaker 1: and they're going through, and then they're surrounded by gorillas,
1:30:27
Speaker 1: just all of a sudden. And their guide is saying,
1:30:30
Speaker 1: just don't move, because if something sets them off, they
1:30:35
Speaker 1: will just attack us, and they're super strong, and they'll
1:30:39
Speaker 1: just rip us to pieces. And she said the only
1:30:43
Speaker 1: thing she could think of was how everybody back home
1:30:46
Speaker 1: would say, that's how she would have wanted to go.
1:30:49
Speaker 10: Is it?
1:30:51
Speaker 6: Yeah. Is that really how anybody wants to go?
1:30:55
Speaker 1: To shreds by gorillas. Oh, that's how she would have
1:30:58
Speaker 1: wanted to go.
1:30:58
Speaker 6: That's how she would have wanted it.
1:31:01
Speaker 8: Yes, yes.
1:31:03
Speaker 6: Well, I do like the other message at the end
1:31:05
Speaker 6: of this, after all this, like, evil chemicals are ruining
1:31:09
Speaker 6: the work in the end toxic soup will save us
1:31:12
Speaker 6: yeah it's the only hope for us really is this
1:31:14
Speaker 6: toxic soup of random.
1:31:16
Speaker 1: Crap sort of wiggles around to let us know it's working.
1:31:20
Speaker 8: It's not done yet i'm confused about how she grew
1:31:23
Speaker 8: back like what happened She.
1:31:27
Speaker 6: Drank a lot of the toxic soup and that magically
1:31:31
Speaker 6: fixed it. In the parking lot.
1:31:33
Speaker 3: Somebody drops a bunch of groceries, breaks it all, mixes together,
1:31:37
Speaker 3: and she falls into it when she's tiny.
1:31:40
Speaker 1: And then you see it sort of wobble around or something.
1:31:43
Speaker 3: She says something when she's big, like, hey, why did
1:31:45
Speaker 3: it happen? She says, oh, I drank gallons of it,
1:31:48
Speaker 3: you know, because she's swimming in it. And then, I guess,
1:31:51
Speaker 3: you know, drowning in it. And then instantly became big.
1:31:54
Speaker 6: Toxic soup?
1:31:55
Speaker 3: You know, what bothered me was the whole world is
1:31:59
Speaker 3: watching this broadcast of this woman miraculously come back.
1:32:04
Speaker 1: And she's like, hey, it's me, it's me. And they're like, hey,
1:32:08
Speaker 1: see you later.
1:32:09
Speaker 6: Yeah, they all just leave.
1:32:10
Speaker 1: They all just leave.
1:32:11
Speaker 11: They don't interview her. They don't look at her for
1:32:12
Speaker 11: more than about 30 seconds. Hey, great to see you back.
1:32:15
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's nice. That's nice. It's neighborly.
1:32:17
Speaker 1: I like that.
1:32:18
Speaker 6: They freaked out for like a year. And she's on
1:32:21
Speaker 6: the cover of every magazine. She's got hour-long specials about her.
1:32:25
Speaker 6: And she's on Mike Douglas. And now, oh, she's back.
1:32:28
Speaker 6: See you later. Good night.
1:32:29
Speaker 11: Hey, I don't know how the movie wrapped up.
1:32:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, see you later.
1:32:34
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're done with this now.
1:32:35
Speaker 9: Move along.
1:32:37
Speaker 6: So, I don't know, I think it is interesting that
1:32:42
Speaker 6: coming out of the late 70s, as this was, that
1:32:45
Speaker 6: there wasn't more of an environmental message. Like, I really expected,
1:32:50
Speaker 6: when I was trying to think about that, I was
1:32:51
Speaker 6: expecting them to be like, these chemicals are evil, and
1:32:54
Speaker 6: they're gonna, you know, they totally gloss over that. This
1:32:56
Speaker 6: movie's starting a little short. My gorilla is flipping you
1:33:05
Speaker 6: off right now.
1:33:07
Speaker 12: So thank you and again i kind of back up
1:33:11
Speaker 12: i i'm ignoring that so the uh i expected more
1:33:15
Speaker 12: of a an environmental thing to come out it's like
1:33:17
Speaker 12: they totally didn't care about that they really hardcore with
1:33:21
Speaker 12: this anti-consumerism thing yeah and this like being slaves to
1:33:25
Speaker 12: products and you know totally like letting advertising there's a
1:33:29
Speaker 12: lot of fun little moments in advertising where they're you
1:33:31
Speaker 12: know making fun of these ads and the way that
1:33:35
Speaker 12: they just kind of scam people into liking stuff that's
1:33:37
Speaker 12: total crap. So I think that part's kind of clever,
1:33:40
Speaker 12: but it is funny how much they totally could care
1:33:43
Speaker 12: less about the evil chemicals, really, in the grand scheme
1:33:46
Speaker 12: of things. They're way more concerned with the anti-consumerism portion,
1:33:51
Speaker 12: which is really.
1:33:52
Speaker 1: It's weird to see, like, an anti-consumerist... consumerist thing from
1:33:57
Speaker 1: the 70s when they didn't even have iPods. How did
1:34:00
Speaker 1: these people fucking live? That's my question.
1:34:03
Speaker 6: That's what I thought was weird. This is like 81
1:34:05
Speaker 6: at the latest by the time it comes out. We
1:34:09
Speaker 6: really hadn't even hit the consumerism.
1:34:12
Speaker 1: I'm still hoping this is like the release of the
1:34:15
Speaker 1: iPhone that will make life bearable for me. Because I'm
1:34:19
Speaker 1: not happy, man.
1:34:20
Speaker 6: I'm still working on that.
1:34:21
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the thing to come along that's going
1:34:23
Speaker 1: to make life tolerable they haven't come up with it
1:34:28
Speaker 1: yet well yeah.
1:34:29
Speaker 3: Kind of like these Steve Jobs' past how are we
1:34:31
Speaker 3: going to know what to buy next I know if
1:34:33
Speaker 3: he's not introducing it to.
1:34:34
Speaker 6: Us Bill Gates has crap I know I keep buying.
1:34:38
Speaker 1: I know Bill Gates is going to found like a
1:34:40
Speaker 1: movie company and it's going to be like error message
1:34:44
Speaker 1: the movie for.
1:34:45
Speaker 16: Two hours we're going to be watching this request cannot
1:34:50
Speaker 16: be processed before error yeah time to reboot yeah So,
1:34:55
Speaker 16: I don't know, I just thought it was really funny
1:34:56
Speaker 16: that there's this super anti-consumerism message in.
1:35:00
Speaker 6: 81, well before the complete materialism that became the 80s. Like,
1:35:05
Speaker 6: that's what it's known for, is completely being a materialistic
1:35:09
Speaker 6: span of time when that's all we were concerned with
1:35:12
Speaker 6: as a country.
1:35:13
Speaker 11: Maybe if they had made a better movie, we wouldn't
1:35:15
Speaker 11: have had all this.
1:35:16
Speaker 6: It could be.
1:35:17
Speaker 1: That's the thing, you look back on it, it's like,
1:35:19
Speaker 1: there's a lot of cool stuff that those poor idiots
1:35:22
Speaker 1: didn't have yet. And they're like all anti-consumer products. It's like, look,
1:35:28
Speaker 1: wait a little while, because there's going to be some
1:35:31
Speaker 1: good stuff coming along.
1:35:32
Speaker 6: Right now, you guys are, you know, the most cool
1:35:34
Speaker 6: thing you're pitching here is the feminine hygiene spray. Yeah.
1:35:38
Speaker 6: You're like, wait until we get to iPods. You ain't
1:35:41
Speaker 6: seen nothing yet.
1:35:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they haven't got the iPad yet. That's the
1:35:45
Speaker 1: feminine hygiene.
1:35:46
Speaker 8: This is for our angry birds.
1:35:48
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, how did these bastards get by? They
1:35:51
Speaker 6: might have actually gotten stuff accomplished in their day.
1:35:53
Speaker 8: Her kids wouldn't have been so annoyed.
1:35:56
Speaker 6: Well, she just would have blocked them out and put
1:35:57
Speaker 6: her headphones on.
1:35:58
Speaker 8: She would have just put a DVD in the DVD player.
1:36:00
Speaker 1: They'd just be on their laptops, and you'd hear them
1:36:03
Speaker 1: giggle every now and then.
1:36:04
Speaker 6: As they watch porn.
1:36:05
Speaker 11: Yeah.
1:36:06
Speaker 6: Like all kids, yeah. This is what this world needs.
1:36:09
Speaker 1: Well, it is funny sometimes.
1:36:11
Speaker 6: Oh, it's funny.
1:36:12
Speaker 19: Yeah.
1:36:13
Speaker 9: Oh, man.
1:36:14
Speaker 6: It's what every kid needs to be grazed on.
1:36:16
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think the problem is that kids
1:36:19
Speaker 3: don't have a woman that, especially the mentally retarded people,
1:36:24
Speaker 3: don't have someone teaching them erotica.
1:36:26
Speaker 9: No.
1:36:26
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:36:28
Speaker 6: There's a callback most people will not get.
1:36:30
Speaker 8: Special needs children need someone to teach them erotica. It's
1:36:33
Speaker 8: very important.
1:36:34
Speaker 11: Hey, if you haven't listened, never mind.
1:36:37
Speaker 8: You're going to have to find me. That's a quest.
1:36:39
Speaker 8: That's a challenge.
1:36:40
Speaker 6: If you haven't heard that story.
1:36:42
Speaker 8: I think all episodes from here on out should be
1:36:44
Speaker 8: nothing but references to previous episodes. So new listeners will
1:36:48
Speaker 8: have to backlog and just listen to every episode ever.
1:36:51
Speaker 8: We're not going to tell them which episode. You have
1:36:53
Speaker 8: to listen to all previous episodes.
1:36:55
Speaker 6: I'll give you a hint. No surprise. It's another magical
1:36:58
Speaker 6: Marlena moment. So go back and find it.
1:37:01
Speaker 8: Find out what episode it is.
1:37:02
Speaker 11: It was a caffeinated movie geek episode.
1:37:04
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Maybe not. Marlena is dancing. For
1:37:09
Speaker 1: those of you at home who cannot. It was sort
1:37:13
Speaker 1: of funky chicken. But she's seated.
1:37:15
Speaker 8: That's all I know. Funky chicken and creepy peeper.
1:37:19
Speaker 11: The seated funky chicken.
1:37:22
Speaker 6: Oh, so have we finished The Incredible Shrinking Woman?
1:37:26
Speaker 1: You know what?
1:37:26
Speaker 11: We're wrapping this up about as badly as they did.
1:37:29
Speaker 6: Yeah. I think we've said all we need to say.
1:37:34
Speaker 1: There needs to be like a podcast equivalent of the
1:37:37
Speaker 1: Monty Python shoe that comes down.
1:37:39
Speaker 6: I think there needs to be a podcast equivalent of
1:37:41
Speaker 6: a monkey flipping you off. And it might just be
1:37:43
Speaker 6: this episode. Oh, Lord. Is there anything else you need
1:37:49
Speaker 6: to round out this episode?
1:37:51
Speaker 26: No.
1:37:53
Speaker 11: Let's just keep it short.
1:37:56
Speaker 6: That's a little late. About four hours ago.
1:38:00
Speaker 1: We didn't describe all the artwork. We could read aloud
1:38:06
Speaker 1: the postings on the board over there.
1:38:08
Speaker 8: For the love of God, just start the Galaxy Glue song.
1:38:19
Speaker 12: Yes.
1:38:19
Speaker 6: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next week.
1:38:21
Speaker 6: Same gig time, same gig feed. Thanks for listening.
1:38:44
Speaker 1: A part of me, like my anatomy.
1:38:49
Speaker 23: Much like the stars are to the sky Look up
1:38:53
Speaker 23: and there's another one to buy And I wonder why
1:39:00
Speaker 23: I can't live my life without them They stick to me,
1:39:06
Speaker 23: they stick to.
1:39:06
Speaker 14: You Galaxy glue, galaxy glue, what would we do without
1:39:14
Speaker 14: galaxy glue? Galaxy glue, galaxy.
1:39:19
Speaker 31: Glue, life would go to pieces without galaxy glue.
1:39:28
Speaker 21: For sex appeal and for my thrills and ills.
1:39:33
Speaker 18: They all make claims to be the best Try one
1:39:37
Speaker 18: and there's a better one to test Then it comes
1:39:42
Speaker 18: to me Stop.
1:39:45
Speaker 31: And think they couldn't possibly Be all they say, worth
1:39:50
Speaker 31: all I pay.
1:39:52
Speaker 14: Galaxy Glue, Galaxy Glue What would we do without Galaxy
1:39:59
Speaker 14: Glue Galaxy Glue, Galaxy.
1:40:01
Speaker 31: Glue Life would go to pieces without galaxy.
1:40:09
Speaker 18: Glue Desirable, I'm so desirable Right.
1:40:17
Speaker 23: Close to me they wanna be They promise that they'll
1:40:22
Speaker 23: take good care of me I just.
1:40:26
Speaker 31: Love them all But they make me seem so very
1:40:31
Speaker 31: small They look to me, I look to them Galaxy.
1:40:36
Speaker 14: Glue, galaxy glue What would we do without galaxy glue?
1:40:42
Speaker 14: Galaxy glue, galaxy glue Life would go to pieces without
1:40:50
Speaker 14: galaxy glue Galaxy Blue, Galaxy Blue What would we do
1:41:02
Speaker 14: without Galaxy Blue?
1:41:04
Speaker 17: What we'd like you to do is look in the
1:41:06
Speaker 17: camera and say, Mmm, tastes.
1:41:08
Speaker 6: Like real cheddar cheese. You don't think it does? You
1:41:12
Speaker 6: really don't? It doesn't? Well, what does it taste like?
1:41:17
Speaker 27: Shit.
1:41:17
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