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107 | Summer of 1998, Chapter 2: King Of The Ring · The ExtraCooler Show

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  Welcome to Washington. This is Lord extra cooler and
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  welcome to the extra cooler show.
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  No teeth. Beefaroni on a boat man.
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  That's a problem, right? Welcome back to the extra cooler
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  show. My name is Nick otherwise known
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  as extra cooler. This week I am joined by Matt
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  Mike and Jim. And oh man this week we've got
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  chapter 2 of The Summer of 1998 in wrestling that were covering.
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  This is the second half of King of the Ring 1998, all the iconic
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  stuff. We're going to tap into tonight.
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  Before we do as usual, you can find us on Instagram at extra
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  cooler and join us over on our Discord Channel.
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  And we're also cooking something up over on YouTube.
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  You too. Yeah, so I'm gonna hand it over
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  to Matt for some housekeeping. So I, we are about to cover one
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  of the most iconic moments in wrestling and Nick's out here
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  just chilling. Just hanging starting off the
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  show. So let's go.
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  Let's get it. To some housekeeping here.
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  Last week we had we talked we commented on how maybe we needed
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  to do a little bit more homework for our first half of King the
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  ring 1998. So there was the question boeun
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  vs. Xpac.
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  They faced previously in King the ring Mike and Nick were both
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  correct my key worker and of course coming through with the
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  stats 1994 semifinals Owen went on to beat Razor Ramon in the
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  finals. That is the last time that Owen
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  faced xpac in The King of the Ring.
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  So well done there, sir. We were asking why Triple H was
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  on commentary and if he was hurt, now I could not find
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  anything about him being injured during the time.
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  But Triple H loses to the Rock on the raw before the king, the
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  ring, after a low, blow low blow from Rocky.
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  And this was right in the middle of DX, versus the nation.
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  And Triple H was the reigning King of the Ring.
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  So I think he was just out there of crowning.
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  The new Champion, right? Just passing the torch, so to
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  speak. Eek just a reason to get him on
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  the card essentially. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  And then, lastly, which I found to be well, maybe not.
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  Lastly, I may have a one little extra one for you, but most
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  interestingly for me was the talk around taka, michinoku and
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  the michinoku driver. Exactly.
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  Who invented it. So I found that old WWE article
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  or wwe.com article why is the Garvin stomp?
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  Why is it called the Garvin stop eight Maneuvers named for The
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  Men Who Affected though. I like so, they had a mission
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  not to mention oku driver section of this article, and
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  I'll read it verbatim for you. This one's tricky, because the
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  natural assumption would be that michinoku driver is named for
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  taka. Michinoku in truth, it gets its
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  name from the innovator. The great Satsuki confused.
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  Well, since Suzuki originally competed under the name of
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  masamichi know cou, then when taka michinoku began wrestling
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  in Japan, he adapted the Michi. No good name.
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  In a nod to says success Sookie. Oh man to add to the mix up.
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  Taka also created his own versions of the Michio Kaku
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  driver, which he called the meet, you know, cou driver to,
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  and to be. So it was not Taco, but it was
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  actually the great Satsuki, which I thought was pretty cool.
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  So, you're saying dick to go didn't have anything to do with
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  that move? No.
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  Dick to go on that one. Know.
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  He was not a meet you nut driver.
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  He was yeah, he was just worried about ago and Tacos.
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  Last name is not even meet your new Co.
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  Is that? Where we're getting there?
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  Well, yeah. What's his real name?
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  Yeah, you have. No, no, no more.
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  Has done talking. Bottom, wrong kid.
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  They're wrong kid. So the last thing is, I was
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  disappointed in my producing skills as last week.
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  We had a really cool drop that we spoke about from Jerry.
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  The King Lawler that I said needed to be on our Board in
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  just a pet, just future for moving forward, man.
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  I'm starting off Rusty. You're starting off dry, I'm
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  starting off Rusty. What in the world is happening?
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  Let's kick this off but his name is takao Yoshida.
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  There you go. Thank you.
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  It is on the board in perpetuity was what I was looking for but
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  let's just listen to the king. That's selling it.
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  It's there. We're going to use that one.
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  Mikey were crates drooling, over Francine or Chastity during the
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  ECW Heatwave later this summer. We can use it on me.
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  Anytime Stacy Keibler comes across our board, but that is it
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  from housekeeping. This week, Mick.
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  All right brother, let's get things back back on track to
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  King of the Ring 1998. We've covered all the absolutely
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  outrageous things that happen in part one but two for this We've
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  got three bangers, you've got the King of the Ring finals,
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  you've got the iconic Hell in a Cell and then you've got a First
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  Blood match between Austin and Kane.
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  So, we've got a lot to dive into, so we're going to kick it
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  off with the King of the Ring finals, things pick up.
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  It shows the big board on the screen letting us know that
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  we're getting Ken Shamrock vs. The Rock and but before we do,
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  we have to get mr. Jokester himself, Triple H out
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  with China. He's the European Champion also
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  and he's last year's King of the Ring winner and he's coming out
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  to join us on commentary. I'm sure we're going to have
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  plenty to talk about with mr. Triple H itself and comes out
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  with China, right? He comes out with China.
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  She's got the sunglasses on and your favorite backwards Kangol
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  hat. Yeah, yeah.
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  You know, Nick, I'll defer to you on this since you did on the
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  CD. But would you say they've gone
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  full Boys to Men here with? They're both.
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  Horny back, we can galatia next. I find it interesting that
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  Triple H decides to pull a Jerry Lawler, and take his shirt off.
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  Rips his shirt off, Hulk Hogan style, and then sits at the
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  announce table, no shirt on this man.
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  And his denim. Yeah, is denim wear.
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  This is the third. This is the third time in a row
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  that China is out for a match to.
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  Yeah. Like it's, it's wild.
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  It's just like little costume changes if you will.
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  So like it one, she's wearing sunglasses.
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  The Next, she's wearing the Kangol, the one after that,
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  she's not like this one. Is she has the backwards Kangol
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  on and I, yeah, I don't know. He likes you that take she and
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  the work that night like, she's you know what?
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  She gets involved to it, not here, but she was working this
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  night. She's a speaking fluently in
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  Spanish apparently. Hey, would ya?
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  Yeah, it's excellent stuff. It's a really interesting
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  finals. If you ask me, this match goes
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  close to 15 minutes long. I feel like I'm more distracted
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  by Triple H on commentary during it because he's extremely
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  obnoxious. I don't know if last week we
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  spoke about this or was on the Discord.
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  Also tasteful. It's just like that stupid
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  sophomoric humor. But it's not even like that
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  sophomoric humor that like him and Shawn tried to pull like in
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  the part two of their Reincarnation of DX.
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  It's just like, I don't know, it does.
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  Is absolutely nothing for me. Slightly, five years later.
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  Yeah, there's that he's also, he's just the kind of person.
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  I think that he in his own mind anything that he says is funny,
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  right? Like he needs an editor, I
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  think, you know like especially at this point definitely some of
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  the stuff is kind of funny. It's because just because it's
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  so stupid like talking about I forget what is he's a one-man
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  band playing his own instrument. Like yeah, like it's funny
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  because I find him now when he comes on and the ship, That
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  he'll pull I find entertaining but now like looking back 25
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  years later at this this commentary is just like it's
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  like my least favorite era of Triple H right here.
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  Yeah it's all just yes self-serving it doesn't help you
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  much like you said, naked distracts from the match and
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  that's like a that's not good. When your announce team is doing
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  that it multiple times he takes shots at WCW right off the bat.
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  He takes a shot saying it's not old two old men rolling around
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  the ring. And I know we're like in the
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  heat of things. So it's interesting to hear
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  those little nods. What's he talking about?
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  When he says, you can't like, you can win the King of the
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  Ring. But then you can't pose in any
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  nudie magazine? I don't know where the Bell.
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  It's talking about me. It's got to be Sean.
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  No, that's what I thought has to be, but Shawn never won the King
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  of the Ring, right? It's, you know, but the most
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  naked with a belt though, I think.
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  Oh, yes, that's right. Yeah, it's just, you know,
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  random kind of comment that like is out of Don't think at first I
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  was like, wait Mabel didn't pose naked with the hell.
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  Are we sure about that Nick in your background?
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  You have a framed picture on the wall.
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  I thought that was Shawn Michaels from play girl with the
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  belt is that that's why it's taking us a hundred and seven
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  episodes to go full YouTube on everybody.
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  So all right. So we get Shamrock vs.
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  The Rock here. It's it's an entertaining
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  finals. I think sure it's hard to its
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  it's not hard. It's interesting looking back at
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  things and seeing this young version of rock because we're
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  about to see things completely take off after this summer it.
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  So it's cool Jr. Is out there talking about
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  Shamrock needing to avoid snapping and getting in his own
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  and then like Mike said, China, joins the Spanish commentary and
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  Triple H translates our words something about Taco Bell like
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  that lines like God, Man that's just like, oh really?
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  Yeah cringer it's like the lowest hanging fruit.
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  Yeah. And it's like yeah.
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  Then he follows it up with a little thought.
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  Put into that, he's not bilingual, but he's a lot of
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  other by stuff. Did I just say that?
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  Oh my God. Yeah, it's like he wants didn't
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  realize what he said. He like honestly, I don't know.
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  He's, I mean, he's probably dating Chyna at this point in
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  time too. So yeah, that's true.
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  They're probably full-on at this point but it I would love to
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  know what China's actually saying over there, which we Had
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  that translated, right? No, I'm tapping out on that one.
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  I'm yeah, I'm listening to you. Jim.
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  She's fluent. All right.
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  I'll see if I could go back and dust off that seven years of
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  Spanish. Yeah, Rock gets into it with
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  Triple H which is like, you know, it's happening.
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  He goes outside the ring. Triple H spits water in his
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  face. I love with Triple H says to him
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  though, he's like you don't want none of me fuzzy top.
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  Was he, you know, he ignores Shamrock and then he gets his
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  ass kicked. But there's one really weird
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  spot. I don't know if you guys caught
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  this. I think I know where you're
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  going. The ropes, right?
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  Shamrock gets tossed over the top and his arm gets trapped in
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  the ropes. It's ugly fist his wrist.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  It's definitely an accident because the the ref comes over
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  and just lets him out immediately.
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  Let's not. Yes, It doesn't like that.
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  He should Rock should take advantage of that.
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  If for being, you know, full kayfabe here, right?
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  His let them go though he comes over and he like kind of gives
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  them a little boot, like a little kick but really his focus
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  is getting his hand. Untied out of the top of middle
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  rope. It's like, Andre the Giant that
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  would like go fall back inside and get caught in between the
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  two. That's exactly what happened as
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  he flips over the top rope or even more appropriately.
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  Mick Foley would go over the ropes and stick his neck between
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  the two. Yes.
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  Psycho lose out here. But at this point it's just
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  Shamrocks hand and good seem right?
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  Everyone that comes over. Yeah.
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  And he favors the definitely. He's on the outside of the ring.
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  You know, it's a funny little spot there.
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  There's also a spot that I love. Yeah, yeah.
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  Shake it off or shake it out. There's this one, dude.
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  That's ringside who's talking mad shit to the Rockies, like,
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  leaning, over the railing and like, I feel like Rocky's, like,
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  close to two decades him at like, this guy's just over the
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  line. And, like, I don't ya, it's one
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  of those things that would knock.
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  Fly nowadays. Well, they're definitely like
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  entering that territory of like some some of the ECW type fans
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  or laughs trickling in and or it's like wearing off into the
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  WWE crowd or WWF and WCW, and they were emboldened to write
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  the fans like, think they can get away with it.
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  Yep. All right.
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  So I'm going to get right to the end of this match.
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  Rock hits a people's elbow and the DDT gets over people's elbow
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  there. I'm sorry to cut you off.
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  I don't know. Did they refer to it as do?
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  You put it the crowd pops for it, even though he's a he'll
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  hear lots of near-falls. I thought towards the end and
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  the crowd gets very much into the end of this match Rock.
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  Argues with the ref opens door for Shamrock to Grapevine, his
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  leg and slaps on the ankle lock and rock Taps out clean.
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  And we've got a new King of the Ring and you see Triple H out
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  there and I I saw him come out and I didn't expect there to be
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  a clear. Clean ending to this match from
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  what I remember? Yeah, I'm kind of the same, you
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  know, you and watching back, you know, the crowd pops massive,
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  when the ankle lock gets applied like yes, jump out of their
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  seats for this dude and I'd like I'd struggle to really get
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  behind Shamrock and like I can't remember exactly like 25 years
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  later or whatever it is at this point of like I don't remember
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  Shamrock being that big of a deal but this dude is over very
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  over yet. Talked about this now a few
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  times on the show. Yeah, the crowd Pops.
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  I mean, I remember cheering for him and I liked Rock, the Heel
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  Rock, but I like Shamrock to. I remember cheering for him to
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  win the title. Yeah, I see belt at
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  WrestleMania, a few months back and I think I probably wanted
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  him to win this and he, you know, Nikki talked about in the
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  last episode, how he's just sending guys off the ropes and
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  he's got a kind of a limited moveset, but the moves he does.
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  Do he look? They look really great impact,
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  including the ankle lock. He sells the hell out of it.
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  And it looks Painful grapevines, the leg and everything.
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  Ed look that looks great. It looks great smooth.
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  There is a set of clothes lines that are really stiff in this
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  one to that. I just it looked like a receipt
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  was given so the rock nail Shamrock first with like a, it's
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  really high. It's like up around the neck and
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  the jaw area looks really stiff. And then right after it it looks
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  like Shamrock awkwardly reverses, an Irish rip like
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  nope, I'm not going into the ropes holds onto Rockies wrist
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  and then Lays in a receipt with another high clothesline that
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  just knocks Rocky on his ass. And I was like okay that's
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  that's some old school wrestling right there.
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  I respect that. That's cool.
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  It's a I think Shamrock is just like one of the first guys that
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  we've seen in a while who like doesn't seem like a sports
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  Entertainer and like it's believable what he's doing in
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  the ring like ankle lock. Think about it outside of the
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  ankle lock. What was her?
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  The Sharpshooter and the figure for in terms of submission moves
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  and even then like it wasn't a big deal.
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  Deal. Nobody made a big deal out of
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  them tapping out. They never really tapped to
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  those moves. Wasn't acting out until
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  Shamrock. He's actually might be a big
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  part of how the attitude ever got started.
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  Oh, totally. Yeah.
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  Without a doubt. Yes, especially that aggressive
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  kind of MMA style infused into the product for sure?
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  Yeah. With as far as the tapping out
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  thing, Nick, I mean, what did you do with your wrestler toys?
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  When you were a kid when they, when they quote unquote, tapped
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  out? You said I submit, they weren't
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  Going out. Now that's not at all trained
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  to. No, no, no.
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  It was the raise the hand three times and I think as a bear hug
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  you're thinking of the sleeper hold from Million Dollar Man.
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  Like to me it was always the referee coming in and checking
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  with raising the hand three times and then that's when
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  they're done, when they're out or you would see like the guy
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  nodding his head? No.
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  No. And then he would go like, yeah,
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  yeah, yeah, yeah, true. That's, yeah, I submit, I
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  submit. The Tapout was its key like it.
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  It's okay. Jesus.
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  It's awesome. Alright, so, let's give this
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  King of the Ring finals canes in the cooler.
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  But before we do the most interesting thing I think is
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  that there's like zero celebration for Shamrock.
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  Yeah. There's no Crown.
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  There's no, no cape or whatever you call it.
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  Shamrock is just awkwardly pacing around the ring until the
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  referee comes over and raises his hand.
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  And then it, you see Triple H walking out as Shamrock is still
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  awkwardly pacing around the ring like it.
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  That's what I think. Checks me out of Shamrock is
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  that he always Feels awkward in in interviews, in in ring stuff
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  where he's not fighting it, just he always feels awkward to me.
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  But regardless that he's a zoo animal, like he is get em out,
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  let em out of the cage. Yeah, exactly.
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  Like that's him. You know, that's like actually
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  him. That's what's it's kind of it's
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  not about him. Yeah really well said that's a
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  good point. That's perspective.
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  I did not have back in 1997 1998, that's for sure.
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  All right I will give this match three and a half cans in the
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  cooler for me houses this is Hi for me.
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  Yeah, you're go Mike since you're welcome.
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  Yeah, no II. Gave it three solid cans in the
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  cooler. You know, I'm drinking a little
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  bit. It's three cats, you know it's
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  it's worth a watch. It's solid solid finals match,
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  it's good. How is half a can more?
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  A big one, you know, from you that you're usually kind of
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  yeah. You're the hardest on the the
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  mess that would say just because somewhere High, you were like.
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  Okay, that's all. Yeah, I wasn't with Val.
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  Venis pal, really, don't think I could.
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  Three and a half, that's for sure.
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  And I struggled to even go to three, honestly, but I'm going
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  to keep it at three because just to follow-up.
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  And last week, we also forgot to mention this Jr.
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  Continues to bury the Al Snow match Big Time in this, where I
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  can longer tells him to shut up and he sounds serious.
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  He's like, that's my son, you're talking about something burning
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  but as far as these guys go, this is the king of ring finals.
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  Come on. They could do a little bit
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  better but maybe this is the best that these guys can do at
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  this point because you figure Shamrocks were all.
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  Rock is still raw. Right?
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  Like, I don't know. You like maybe this will be more
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  years. They give you like that, true
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  banger, but this is entertaining.
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  Don't get me wrong. So, I'm going to .75.
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  That's why. Well, the thing that's crazy is
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  this is the, this is the King of the Ring pay-per-view.
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  And this is not the first obviously most memorable match
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  off the card. And it's probably not even the
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  second most memorable match off the car.
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  You know, I almost forget that Shamrock one, this King of the
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  Ring, you know, things have been well, the other the king of the
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  Rings. You Like I remember you remember
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  Austin's, when you remember, I remember Triple H that's like
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  money living on the card. I Remember The Rock versus Dan
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  Severn more than I remember this man.
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  I'm so I'm with because I don't the finish of that match I
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  remember clearly that make sense.
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  I'm with Jim and Mike I gave it three, I couldn't go higher and
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  I teetered with hitting three maybe maybe this for me was it
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  coming out of the shit that we had in the first half?
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  Of the card and then I was like, all right.
• 20:05
  Yeah, yeah. It's a nice appetizer to the and
• 20:10
  I've said it talks about appetizers, a lot lately with
• 20:12
  this summer of 1998, but it's a nice kick off with like right
• 20:16
  before the hell cocktail, if you will.
• 20:19
  Yeah, so before we get to the main event, what's in,
• 20:26
  everybody's cooler. So the extra cooler showing
• 20:29
  what's in the cooler is brought to you by Sloop Brewing Company,
• 20:31
  Sloop, Brewing is known for their hazy and golden ipas.
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  Like juice bomb and Supersoft be on the lookout for more coming
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  from the extra cooler show and our favorite Brewery, Sloop.
• 20:41
  Anybody brings Sloop man? I know you were there the other
• 20:44
  day. Yes, I I did go to Sloop this
• 20:47
  past Saturday, we had Tom from the turnbuckle Tavern, come up
• 20:50
  and hang out for a little bit. We did stop over at Sloop for
• 20:53
  him. Not being a beer guy.
• 20:55
  We found some Sloop beers that he enjoyed, so I found it to be
• 20:58
  a good day, but my beer comes from the second Brewery.
• 21:03
  We went to and In New York, the Hudson Valley Brewery, which
• 21:07
  specializes in sour ipas. And this one is no different.
• 21:11
  It's Allison, which is the name of it here.
• 21:13
  And my favorite part about this Brewery is how they describe
• 21:17
  their beers as well as their can art.
• 21:19
  So the can Art Is Awesome by an artist.
• 21:22
  His name is Evan Cohen and his artwork is tremendous.
• 21:26
  It's always super detailed. Really fun.
• 21:28
  Really colorful and this one is no different.
• 21:31
  It almost looks like you're like on the on a different planet.
• 21:34
  Looking at some water and Sun reflection off the water but
• 21:38
  it's really good. The beer itself is tremendous.
• 21:41
  It's a sour IPA. Like I said 6.0%, but my
• 21:45
  favorite thing is how they described the beers and they
• 21:48
  have it in the menu when you're flipping through and ordering
• 21:51
  your beers. It says, taste like Funfetti
• 21:53
  Bank, baked mango and vanilla ice cream.
• 21:57
  So that's one is brewed with Citra hops?
• 21:59
  It is tremendous. And yeah.
• 22:02
  If you're into sours, if you Can the mean you're not going to be
• 22:05
  able to, unless you're in the Hudson Valley area?
• 22:07
  But if you can get your hands on some Hudson Valley Brewery
• 22:10
  beers, they are tremendous. So cheers.
• 22:13
  Before we move on, I just wanted to point out that Holocene.
• 22:19
  I love the can art and everything by the way, but it's
• 22:21
  an homage to the geologic era that we live in.
• 22:27
  Who like 11:30 like the past eleven thousand years right here
• 22:32
  at grade science back. Yeah, Mikey Mikey earth science
• 22:35
  right there. Mikey palmice.
• 22:37
  Right. What do you got?
• 22:39
  Mikey palmice? I got Joey C, naught, 0 c, not
• 22:44
  the club summertime logger. The oec Brewing is in Oxford,
• 22:50
  Connecticut and it's a really good logger.
• 22:53
  It's goes down like water. It's Alicia's as this house the
• 22:59
  mouthfeel. Always good, it's good.
• 23:02
  Nom Nom, see ya. I'm not a prude with check
• 23:08
  pilsner and Cara pills malts and it's a double the cash Ganesh,
• 23:14
  but again, 10 times fast. Yeah.
• 23:19
  And I brought I brought a Narragansett Fresh Catch.
• 23:22
  I can't even remember if I had this recently or Matt had it.
• 23:28
  It's June. It's the end of the school year.
• 23:29
  I'm wiped out. I'm exhausted.
• 23:31
  And I'm ready for summer so I can't remember, Jim, I'll let
• 23:35
  you take over. I've got a special drink, I made
• 23:39
  from this book. I have called booze and vinyl.
• 23:41
  He would be pair an album with a drink that they came up with.
• 23:45
  This one is for The Strokes. It's just sit at the debut, it's
• 23:48
  a spice, the so-called spicy, lime, and logger.
• 23:52
  So it's, it's a Heineken which the strips are famous for
• 23:55
  drinking when they came out. With two bar spoons of red hot
• 24:01
  and then like a half an ounce of lime juice, it's actually really
• 24:03
  delicious. It sounds super weird but it's
• 24:06
  almost refreshing in a weird hot sauce kind of way, highly
• 24:10
  recommend this, but it gives the Heineken a little kick that
• 24:13
  probably needs. Excellent.
• 24:19
  Excellent. I love it.
• 24:21
  So let's get started. We're all probably looking at
• 24:24
  the disk or Channel because I am.
• 24:26
  Sorry, I got distracted. I blame these guys on the
• 24:31
  Discord guilty. Yeah, anyway, I'm gonna flip my
• 24:35
  phone over and we're going to continue things and let's check
• 24:39
  out the what I think is the main event here.
• 24:42
  The Undertaker versus Mankind there.
• 24:45
  Hell in a Cell match, this is the second Hell in a Cell match.
• 24:49
  You know, bad blood with Undertaker versus Shawn was the
• 24:52
  first One in the fall. And this is easily one of
• 24:57
  wrestling's. Most iconic matches being the
• 25:02
  number one. Most shocking moment.
• 25:05
  Number one most Oh My God moment in.
• 25:08
  Hastily history has to be absolutely, yeah easily.
• 25:14
  So let's let's start things off. Try and paint this picture for
• 25:17
  anybody. That doesn't remember because I
• 25:19
  went back and watch this and as iconic as it is, you know, it
• 25:23
  Been a while. Like, I feel like at this point,
• 25:25
  I've heard more stories about this match, then I have watched
• 25:29
  it, and to re-watch it, it was, I was absolutely hooked to my
• 25:34
  screen starts off mankind, comes out, first, with the chair, he
• 25:38
  Scopes the cage out, throws the chair on top and climbs, the
• 25:42
  cage immediately. This is also that era before
• 25:45
  they start putting the holes in the side of the steel cage,
• 25:48
  which I think is a thing watching him struggle to get to
• 25:51
  the top, his own music. I'm going all the while it Jr.
• 25:55
  Is selling the hell out of mankind Mick Foley.
• 26:00
  First and foremost, even before fully comes out, they are
• 26:03
  selling the hell out of the structure itself.
• 26:05
  And it is like so well done. The way that King and Jr, are
• 26:10
  talking up the cell and talking up the match and how high-stakes
• 26:14
  this is its. And, you know, it was, it was
• 26:18
  originally supposed to be Mankind and Austin, right?
• 26:21
  And then it was pivoted back to Under not in the cell itself,
• 26:25
  but it was supposed to be a program between Mankind and off,
• 26:28
  right? And then they pivoted back to
• 26:30
  the Undertaker who they had, you know, really come into this kind
• 26:33
  of cold from a storyline perspective and then on top of
• 26:37
  it, here's like, yeah, at their seventh pay-per-view match or
• 26:40
  something ridiculous like that. So I felt like they really did
• 26:44
  this tremendous job of just talking up the cell and it was
• 26:48
  really like forward, not. I mean, it was really ominous on
• 26:52
  how they were speaking about. At it.
• 26:53
  That's for sure. It really takes me back.
• 26:55
  So I can remember thinking at the time that despite like, what
• 26:58
  Mikey were courageous said that they've been feuding for two
• 27:00
  years. This was felt like thrown in
• 27:02
  like, almost nowadays. Like, here's this other match
• 27:04
  that we're going to put on, but the sell job on the structure
• 27:07
  itself, which this is only the second time we've seen this
• 27:10
  structure right in the first instance Michaels and The
• 27:14
  Undertaker, a few months back, or maybe a little more than half
• 27:18
  a year back is an all-time Banger.
• 27:20
  So, oh, you know, you know, you're getting something here.
• 27:23
  When you're when you're watching and then you know, Nick was
• 27:26
  talking about hearing all the stories in 2018 when it was the
• 27:29
  20th anniversary they went through and you heard the untold
• 27:33
  come out on the WWE Network and you heard from Undertaker, you
• 27:37
  heard from mankind about it, then you had all of the you know
• 27:41
  the Undertaker documentary fully went out and did a whole like
• 27:45
  spoken word tour about the match itself and we constantly hear
• 27:49
  these stories of this match 20. Now 25 years Years later and
• 27:54
  just how important it was to the lore of wrestling, for sure.
• 27:58
  Yeah, Pritchard side of it on something.
• 28:00
  Oh yeah, yeah, it's Russell. So I thought, after mankind
• 28:06
  comes out and he climbs to the top of the cage, I thought
• 28:08
  Undertaker had a kind of unique entrance.
• 28:13
  I thought it was different from what I can remember.
• 28:15
  He walks down, and there's like three sets of flames.
• 28:18
  Got a broken foot here. Yeah, he's working with a broken
• 28:21
  ankle. I believe find was like
• 28:23
  Fireworks explode on him, it looks like you know M it there
• 28:27
  literally is probably like seven, maybe eight feet between
• 28:31
  them each out huge explosion. Yeah.
• 28:33
  Right. As he goes through them and it's
• 28:36
  they're so loud that they shake the camera.
• 28:39
  Uh-huh, that that's right in front of him so it's interesting
• 28:43
  he comes right out. He comes out hot climbs up.
• 28:45
  The cage mankind goes up to him before he gets up top again.
• 28:49
  Like Mike said, it's really interesting because he's working
• 28:52
  very Hurt. Obviously.
• 28:54
  But as he said a number of interviews, he's like, I, you
• 28:57
  know, this was the hottest the business ever was.
• 29:00
  He's like, I can't, you can't take time off during this, which
• 29:05
  is absolutely wild. Once he gets to the top of the
• 29:09
  cage, take her, take some chair shots and you can see as they
• 29:14
  walk across the cage starts to break.
• 29:17
  It starts to pop almost like, I don't know if they're linked
• 29:19
  with metal, like a fence would be or zip ties.
• 29:22
  They look like Sighs. But you can see them popping off
• 29:27
  and then it's it's almost this is where re-watching this is so
• 29:31
  absolutely incredible because it's slow with the two of them
• 29:35
  walking across the top and then boom out of nowhere.
• 29:38
  Undertaker. Just throws mankind, right off
• 29:40
  the cage. Like very nice seconds in.
• 29:43
  Yeah. And you almost forget how fast
• 29:46
  that happens and how early on that happens in the match and
• 29:51
  and before I we I want to listen to that clip.
• 29:54
  But before we do Foley says in one of the interviews, he talks
• 29:58
  about how he knew there was absolutely no way that they
• 30:02
  could top Bad Blood because of the worker that Sean was and
• 30:06
  Undertaker. So he was like how can we top
• 30:10
  them Healthy? You know here at that time.
• 30:12
  Yes you've got calm. He had conversations with Terry
• 30:15
  Funk and like I think one of them suggested going off the
• 30:19
  top. Yeah.
• 30:20
  And very sad Jody seay. Obsessed over it.
• 30:23
  Like two weeks beforehand talking, he's talking about this
• 30:27
  in the untold. So if you haven't gone on the
• 30:29
  WWE Network and watched Untold it was a whole series, it was
• 30:32
  really cool series but this one to me was probably the best.
• 30:36
  It started out episode 1 season 1.
• 30:38
  Episode 1 is talking about hell in the cell and Foley is talking
• 30:42
  about how Terry Funk was. The one that was just like just
• 30:47
  start up on top of the cage he goes up there and he was like
• 30:51
  yeah okay and he said it as a joke.
• 30:53
  And then fully just sat with it and sat with him sat with and he
• 30:56
  was like we got to do this like and just as Nick said it was
• 30:59
  about, how do we won up? What was one of the greatest
• 31:03
  matches you've ever seen? And Sean takes a bump off the
• 31:06
  middle of the outside of the cage on that one.
• 31:09
  So full, he's got a one-up them and there you go.
• 31:11
  And man is he trying to convince Undertaker for like two weeks
• 31:15
  straight to do it and Undertaker like just keep brushing him off
• 31:18
  over and over again and then the other side of it was that fully
• 31:22
  talks about it. Again on the untold peace.
• 31:24
  He, he said that Vince came up to him and asked them how you
• 31:28
  feeling about it? Have you been up there?
• 31:30
  And he was like, oh yeah, I'm great, I'm great at what was up
• 31:32
  there earlier? And he was like, I was one of
• 31:34
  the biggest lies I had ever told that my entire life was telling
• 31:38
  Vince that I had been up there. Wow, so wait, so you have the
• 31:43
  audio for that have bright with the most iconic calls in, in
• 31:48
  wrestling history. So let's listen to it.
• 31:51
  What's going to happen here? Undertaker fighting back.
• 31:55
  He's fighting back around of those folks and I don't want the
• 31:57
  damn bitch. Oh my God.
• 32:19
  It's it's so goddamn unbelievable.
• 32:23
  You know, like something that they I couldn't find this
• 32:26
  information and I would love to know.
• 32:28
  I would love to know if King and J are especially Jr.
• 32:31
  If he was tipped off about any of this, because the way the
• 32:35
  called think found, it's so natural and his reaction her
• 32:39
  even think it's is, is so incredibly like, like how
• 32:44
  exactly how you would imagine? Reacting watching this man, come
• 32:47
  down on the table next to you. Yeah, Jr.
• 32:50
  Jr, has said that he knew the Finish but he didn't know what
• 32:56
  was going to happen in the match so it was completely.
• 33:01
  So on again, I'm going to reference the untold a bunch of
• 33:05
  times, but here it is again. Jr.
• 33:06
  Said that everything you heard was from him, was spontaneous
• 33:09
  and real. Those were the two words that he
• 33:11
  used to describe his, his iconic iconic call and listening to Jr.
• 33:18
  I'm sorry. Listening to the king, just how
• 33:21
  serious he sounds and how like, oh God like, oh God, oh my God,
• 33:26
  it wasn't a puppy's call. It wasn't a jovial jumping out
• 33:31
  of his seat. Jerry, The King Lawler.
• 33:33
  This was legitimate, genuine concern for Mick Foley who's
• 33:37
  now. Underneath literally his head is
• 33:40
  underneath the rumble, the rubble of these, not moving, no
• 33:44
  not moving. And and to go back to Nick's
• 33:47
  point before it And so fast, like these guys are probably
• 33:51
  just settling into this match, right easily.
• 33:54
  It's like 90 seconds, not only that, but as, as fans watching
• 34:00
  the angle at which it shot is from way up above in the hard
• 34:03
  Cam and you don't see Foley. He just disappears and you're
• 34:07
  like, holy shit. What just happened?
• 34:08
  It did this do just go off the cage and then crash, you hear
• 34:12
  this huge crash and then you finally on the replays.
• 34:16
  You see it from the other angle with the camera.
• 34:19
  Looking up which is like unbelievable that they were able
• 34:22
  to capture that on film. It's and it is why it can you as
• 34:27
  I watched it? Because they replay it, like,
• 34:29
  obviously, he's okay because the fact that they replayed, as many
• 34:32
  times as they do, but can you imagine sitting in the front row
• 34:36
  or even in like that section watching this man?
• 34:38
  Come down and don't forget hymns down.
• 34:41
  Yeah, oh easily he and he's a big bodied man, like like a
• 34:45
  thick piece of meat coming off a cactus that they Didn't practice
• 34:49
  that up jelly-like. And, and furthermore, nobody
• 34:53
  must have known because they leave the tape, they leave the,
• 34:56
  the television, the monitors in the table, which they always
• 35:00
  pull those things out of that table.
• 35:03
  Yeah, yeah, the margin for error on this was insane.
• 35:07
  And like hearing taker, like and even watching over these bumps.
• 35:12
  Yeah, seriously. But in, on this one, in
• 35:15
  particular, like, Undertaker isn't doing much aside.
• 35:19
  Touching Foley Foley is the one that's like has to control his
• 35:22
  entire body. His entire fall throughout this
• 35:25
  and honestly he lands it pretty Perfect.
• 35:27
  All here. If you're really like talking
• 35:29
  stuntman style fall from what 20 30 feet in the air like
• 35:35
  unbelievable that he was able to adjust.
• 35:37
  Essentially, of course concussion.
• 35:39
  It was was it an inevitable at this point even though we'll
• 35:42
  talk about that more later. I'm sure.
• 35:44
  But really the only injury at that point aside from the
• 35:48
  concussion which My guess is no joke, but is a separated
• 35:51
  shoulder essentially, because now fully is on the ground is
• 35:55
  point at this point. He's like talking to the doctors
• 35:59
  and Terry Funk, who's one of the first ones out there talking
• 36:02
  something about his shoulder, my shoulder, my shoulder.
• 36:04
  Yeah, he takes his mat mankind mask.
• 36:06
  I think that's what everybody forgets is that this match is
• 36:09
  mankind version. Dirt are.
• 36:11
  And like, Salman's oats. He loses a mask, like, pretty
• 36:15
  lot right after the fall. That's the first thing he does
• 36:17
  is he takes it off as Terry. Standing over them.
• 36:20
  Yeah go back to that. Yeah go ahead.
• 36:22
  All my notes have like I wrote Mankind and then I would write
• 36:26
  Foley all the time to like it was just it was it was cool.
• 36:30
  It takes you out of that suspension suspension of
• 36:33
  disbelief, right? It you are totally in there.
• 36:35
  Yeah, you've got soul, I can't imagine is over.
• 36:39
  Yeah, on top of yeah, you get you get guys like Slaughters out
• 36:43
  there with Terry Funk, Vince comes out there like because he
• 36:47
  was concerned, they're not playing like Roll, you know
• 36:49
  their roles said yeah, Jim Ross is get off your butt in the back
• 36:54
  and get out there. You know you got dr.
• 36:57
  Francois petite. That classic like French Doctor
• 37:00
  Who's just like like yoga instructor which actually I know
• 37:04
  we're talking pretty serious about this match, but do you
• 37:06
  know what? Dr. Francois Petit is from.
• 37:10
  Nobody, but my face. No, he plays.
• 37:12
  He plays Sub-Zero in Mortal Kombat night, that's fun.
• 37:16
  Fun fact. The original Mortal Kombat.
• 37:18
  Yeah, yeah. Okay dr.
• 37:20
  France W it eat anyway but you know, you got Slaughter holding,
• 37:24
  that mankind mask down the aisle.
• 37:27
  It's pretty interesting how they've raised the cage to get
• 37:30
  him on the stretcher and they wheel him about halfway down the
• 37:34
  aisle. And he, he pops right back up.
• 37:39
  He Stuff like nothing's wrong. It's insane.
• 37:43
  Yeah. Seriously.
• 37:44
  He pops up like nothing's there. Takers on top of the cage, by
• 37:48
  the way, as the cage is lifting, like off the ground?
• 37:51
  Yeah, it's insane to fans. The fans are chanting Undertaker
• 37:55
  to, which is pretty almost sad. This point.
• 37:57
  You think, right? Yeah.
• 37:58
  No idea. You know, this is why he's still
• 38:02
  getting carted off Foley that is, yeah, I thought, the
• 38:05
  Undertaker chance were really interesting.
• 38:07
  I was like, wait, why are they chanting for the Undertaker?
• 38:09
  We watch this live back in the day, right?
• 38:12
  And yes and I can remember hearing that and being like jeez
• 38:15
  it's like bad taste you know like the guys like we thought
• 38:19
  the match was over at the time for sure and oh easily the
• 38:22
  chanting and and all that. So then he comes back down the
• 38:26
  ring like towards the ring. The cage has been lowered at
• 38:29
  this point. He then proceeds to climb back
• 38:33
  up to the top of the cage. He takes a high but and then
• 38:38
  instantly takes a choke Lamb off off the top through the cage law
• 38:43
  was and I think that what I thought was really interesting
• 38:47
  too is that Undertaker even starts climbing down from the
• 38:50
  cage and then the like as Mick Foley gets up off the stretcher
• 38:55
  starts walking back he immediately goes back up and
• 38:58
  Undertaker has to be like oh shit.
• 38:59
  Alright here we go again. See best and the crowd Arroyo as
• 39:04
  these two are coming up, the cage on opposite sides, and
• 39:08
  then, yeah, Like as iconic as that fall off of the cell is the
• 39:15
  one through the cell is even more dangerous than even more
• 39:20
  insane and I have that so to it. Want to listen to.
• 39:22
  Yeah, it's so ugly. Yeah.
• 39:24
  I'll let you play the clip then we can talk more about it.
• 39:47
  It's mild heat Mick. Mick Foley talks about how like
• 39:51
  he was just like inches away from like killing himself the
• 39:54
  way he landed. Yeah, they said he said if he
• 39:56
  didn't, he like it's his worst cell of a move ever like if he
• 40:00
  jumped up properly like yes would be that he can barely get
• 40:03
  up. So he gets like if he was up
• 40:05
  higher he would have tilted in mid air and landed on the back
• 40:08
  of his head or or it almost like a 90 degree angles, what he
• 40:10
  said. So he gets he gets chokeslam
• 40:13
  through. He lands the bottom and you see
• 40:16
  Stantly, Everybody by Rushes into the middle of the ring and
• 40:21
  Terry funks in there and Terry Funk goes in and Terry.
• 40:24
  Funk takes a chokeslam. That is so big he's chokeslammed
• 40:28
  out of his sneakers out of his like Skechers.
• 40:31
  Now man Undertaker, who is just standing above?
• 40:37
  They said and and talking about and researching it more and
• 40:42
  listening to Pritchard on something to wrestle with the
• 40:45
  spot was End but it wasn't planned to go on the first move
• 40:50
  on the first chokeslam. So the chokeslam was supposed to
• 40:53
  like, break the zip ties that you see sprinkled around the
• 40:58
  ring at this point and the cage was supposed to give a little
• 41:01
  bit and then take another bomb little bit.
• 41:03
  And yeah, exactly. And then take a third one and
• 41:07
  essentially, the bump was supposed to be like taking a
• 41:09
  bump off of the top rope that, the cage would be lowered that
• 41:12
  far. And instead on the very first
• 41:15
  chokeslam, this dude, Dude not only Falls but thank goodness
• 41:19
  that Undertaker was on the like support beams because if he was
• 41:23
  on the cage that gave away Undertaker said he went right
• 41:27
  down on top of Foley and who knows what would have happened
• 41:31
  out? That was a both of but instead
• 41:33
  it's a curse like swimming mangled from something like that
• 41:36
  easily and he's working with a broken ankle on top of that.
• 41:39
  So bone chips in his ankle. I think it was but regardless
• 41:42
  like thank God he was on the support beam and the only Thing
• 41:46
  that fell on Foley was a metal folding chair, which hit him
• 41:49
  directly in the mouth. What is wrong with these people?
• 41:52
  In Pittsburgh that through that, that second that chokes just
• 41:56
  said right there, but the chokeslam happens and they're
• 42:00
  still chanting for the Undertaker, like I'm baffled as
• 42:04
  this is happening. So it's at this point, we
• 42:07
  finally see some Foley offense where wait, wait, you're going
• 42:10
  to gloss over? What?
• 42:11
  He looks like to, it's a global falling.
• 42:16
  Grover when he gets it right? It's sorry crushing their no
• 42:22
  concussion there for Mick. Hey volunteer because Nick's the
• 42:25
  Dolphins fan, he bumps on that top rope, takes out Undertaker
• 42:29
  finally and like I said, we finally get some offense.
• 42:32
  I don't know how this man is moving.
• 42:35
  Yeah. But so the what do you call it?
• 42:40
  The producer of the match is Pat Patterson, right.
• 42:45
  And up here on something to rest with Bruce Prichard is saying
• 42:50
  that he's going nuts because this wasn't supposed to happen
• 42:53
  like he's trying to find Pat Patterson.
• 42:56
  Where's Pat Patterson? Where the f is?
• 42:58
  Pat Patterson. So apparently Pat Patterson got
• 43:01
  a phone call and that same night he lost his long.
• 43:05
  I'm partner. Yeah, pretty wild.
• 43:08
  Really messed up. Yeah.
• 43:09
  So during the middle of the match Louis, he gets phone call
• 43:12
  about Louis and disappears, essentially, and Briscoe, right.
• 43:15
  As he tells it, Briscoe tells Richard, Richard, who was
• 43:19
  freaking out, like, where's where's Patterson?
• 43:23
  He tells him about Louis and he's like, all right game, The
• 43:25
  Show Must Go On, he's in the middle of it.
• 43:27
  So yeah, like Sam, talk about another layer.
• 43:30
  Yeah, man. Like and that's a layer that you
• 43:33
  don't necessarily hear about. I feel like I do I didn't hear
• 43:36
  about that recently. Yeah, until Pritchard by yeah,
• 43:39
  it's yeah, it's wild. Absolutely wild.
• 43:43
  It's and then so, re watching this match, right?
• 43:46
  So from start to finish, it left think like close to 18 minutes.
• 43:50
  And then I completely forgot about the, the top, the thumb
• 43:55
  tacks that have. Yeah.
• 43:57
  Like it's, you know, we've had throw off the top, we've had the
• 44:00
  choke slam through the top and then we get the thumbtacked he's
• 44:04
  back and Earth where you know, take your takes a Piledriver at
• 44:09
  one point. The mandible on the fish are
• 44:12
  almost him open. Yeah, mandible claw almost
• 44:15
  knocks, take her off and then all of a sudden he picks up
• 44:18
  Foley for a piggyback ride and and drops him on top of the
• 44:22
  thumb. Tacks for not sitting on there.
• 44:25
  How is this possible? Well before he gets dumped on
• 44:28
  the tax, you said mankind pile, drives him and get some in
• 44:32
  double claw mankind. Almost wins.
• 44:35
  After those two crazy monkeys you just nothing and going he's
• 44:40
  going full bore here to, you know.
• 44:42
  Yep he's not holding back. He's barely looks like if you
• 44:46
  just started watching the match later after the Falls, you'd be
• 44:48
  like oh it's just a normal map you know.
• 44:50
  And I'm and I'm like I skipped over the part before the thumb.
• 44:54
  Tacks come in fully has the wherewithal to go over to the
• 44:58
  corner because he's busted open. He's got the hole in his lip.
• 45:02
  His tooth is hanging out of his nose and he looks Over and he's
• 45:08
  sticking his tongue, through the hole, and he talks about in The
• 45:11
  Untold, how he realized that the hole was there.
• 45:15
  And he thought, what can I do to make this look like even more
• 45:18
  gruesome than it is? So he stuck his tongue through
• 45:21
  the whole I love and I figure the Boogie.
• 45:25
  Yeah chair asks what's in his nose?
• 45:27
  Like he, but he has his own idea which gets law though, to say,
• 45:31
  he speculates that maybe it's part of the table or something,
• 45:33
  but then Jr, just go simply. The three words, he goes maybe a
• 45:37
  tooth and longer gives this kind of honest reaction.
• 45:39
  He's like he's like almost like yeah he like he reels which a
• 45:43
  are saying he's a gold card that's, is that what that is?
• 45:46
  It's such a fun little exchange Undertaker even says in those
• 45:50
  interviews to that he thought it was just this massive booger.
• 45:54
  And yeah that is nose and then he was like, oh shit, it's a
• 45:57
  tune it. So you know, he he takes these
• 46:03
  bumps on the Takes a chokeslam on the tacks again and then
• 46:08
  eventually he takes a tombstone, which wasn't really bitch.
• 46:12
  He doesn't really fall onto the text but he rolls on.
• 46:16
  Yeah. Yes.
• 46:17
  Yeah, so like I said, take her hits the tombstone, finally ends
• 46:22
  the match. This is the first time in the
• 46:25
  WWF, we've seen anything like this.
• 46:27
  Anything close to this doctors come in immediately to check on
• 46:31
  Foley Foley refuses to leave on a stretcher.
• 46:35
  Which I guess apparently he asks Mike keota.
• 46:39
  Who isn't the referee in the match?
• 46:41
  He asks him have I been on a stretcher and Kyoto tolls and
• 46:45
  tells him? Yes twice and he goes I can't be
• 46:48
  on a stretcher, a third time. I just can't.
• 46:51
  So he refuses to take the stretcher at the end and it's
• 46:56
  wild he received a standing ovation which is rare at this
• 47:01
  point especially and then finally we get the Foley chance
• 47:03
  and as there. Literally, the other doctor
• 47:06
  comes out and he's plucking. These thumbtacks out of the side
• 47:09
  of his arm. Yeah.
• 47:11
  And just the look of how many thumbtacks are on.
• 47:14
  His boots is insane. It was thousands.
• 47:18
  They said thousands and Richard actually said that they
• 47:21
  sterilized all of them first which I thought was really
• 47:24
  interesting and also Terry Funk is out there to help and he
• 47:28
  still has no shoes on in case he's love that consider the
• 47:31
  back. So also Pritchard said that when
• 47:38
  they go to the back Foley s I'm sorry I didn't do the Thumbtack
• 47:41
  spot. Yes, Richards Pritchards like
• 47:46
  but you did he's like he's got some text sticky.
• 47:48
  Yeah. Yeah it's wild Foley.
• 47:52
  Also tells the story of Vince coming up to him and being like,
• 47:56
  I appreciate everything you did tonight for this company but I
• 47:59
  never want to see anything like that ever again.
• 48:03
  Wildman a say, aye, I think we are a hundred and what seven
• 48:09
  episodes in on this podcast and very few matches.
• 48:15
  Have gripped, me re watching them like this one did this past
• 48:19
  week this to me this exceeds five cans in a cooler.
• 48:23
  If I could give it more cans and cooler I would and not because
• 48:27
  it's a great wrestling match. It's not a great wrestling
• 48:30
  match. It's just it is sports
• 48:32
  entertainment. And It's a spectacle.
• 48:35
  Yeah. And you're just so repaired.
• 48:37
  Yeah. There's so many people involved
• 48:39
  to like when you think about it like Foley and Undertaker are
• 48:43
  obviously the the key Parts but King and law.
• 48:48
  Yeah. King and Jr.
• 48:49
  Are huge. Like it's it, you need all four
• 48:52
  of them to get this done. This helps make Jr and Lawler to
• 48:59
  yeah, 100% as much as it makes mankind as it makes them To also
• 49:05
  that's an incredible point. I never thought about like we
• 49:07
  talked about how iconic the calls where we listen to both of
• 49:10
  them but like I never I never really put together what this
• 49:15
  did for those two and how special they are Jr.
• 49:19
  In particular, yeah? Like that's something you'll
• 49:22
  here forever, and will be a meme and will be something that, you
• 49:25
  know, is played over and over and over again.
• 49:28
  Even outside of wrestling space, which is insane.
• 49:31
  And Nick, I think you're right, like, five.
• 49:33
  Ends is the no-brainer here. Like, how do you go any other
• 49:37
  way? Because it's not about the work
• 49:39
  rate, it's not in the ring. It's about the spectacle.
• 49:41
  I was watching this in a different way, doing my
• 49:45
  homework. Usually, it's either.
• 49:46
  I'll put it on the TV or watching an iPad or I'll just
• 49:49
  kind of be doing other things. But this time I sat down and I
• 49:53
  was glued to how I was watching it and I was just so engulfed in
• 49:58
  this that there's no other thing, but to give it five and
• 50:01
  say, if you haven't seen Seen it in a long time.
• 50:05
  Now's the Time, go back every white, 25 years?
• 50:09
  Yes, Matt, you took the words out of my mouth, I was going to
• 50:11
  talk about how we, you know, the show we talked about the work
• 50:13
  rate yada yada, but this is an all-time spectacle and, and
• 50:17
  Foley's a goddamn legend for he gets up and goes full bore the
• 50:20
  entire match and really obviously you know, the thumb
• 50:24
  tacks are one thing, but you remember the two Falls in this
• 50:26
  match? Right, that's the big
• 50:27
  highlights. And the first one is to me, it's
• 50:31
  art, right? Like that.
• 50:32
  First of all, is just our right? That's it.
• 50:33
  Eating ice cream turning in midair, I was going to say,
• 50:37
  before during that clip, the call and everything in the
• 50:40
  crashing, through the table, but the audience reaction and that
• 50:43
  moment where it just like it are make this unique noise that like
• 50:48
  is singular. It any wrestling thing I've ever
• 50:51
  watched right? Like, it's a one second thing.
• 50:53
  It's like this high-pitched thing that they just rise.
• 50:56
  And for me, that's like the memory more than like the sight
• 50:58
  of it, anything just hearing the crowd like it's like a
• 51:01
  collective gasp. Yes right.
• 51:03
  Yes. It's so interesting and so
• 51:06
  unique, but that feel that that's art there and then the
• 51:09
  second Falls just brutality, right?
• 51:11
  Yes. And so it's like the yin and the
• 51:13
  Yang and it's kind of like Foley's career in a nutshell
• 51:17
  usually like they're together. But this they're like strated
• 51:20
  and pulled out into like these two different fall.
• 51:23
  I think you just put it put it like beautifully like you.
• 51:27
  Now that the first fall is is smooth.
• 51:30
  It looks smooth the way his so but then the second one is His
• 51:34
  brutality. Like you said, the watch.
• 51:35
  I can watch the first one. Yeah, I mean it could go wrong
• 51:39
  and he does it hurt? Yes, of course.
• 51:40
  Well, let's we haven't even talked about the fact that they
• 51:43
  did this. How many months years after Owen
• 51:47
  tragedy. Like it's kind of for before.
• 51:50
  Oh. Sorry.
• 51:50
  This is before. Okay?
• 51:52
  I'm sorry. Owen if the owing right before
• 51:54
  this and they did that all know. They died out this would have
• 51:57
  happened. Yeah, I'm gonna apologize.
• 51:59
  Yeah, no no. Yeah, no way that they even dare
• 52:02
  I dare ya. Right after the Owens, on the
• 52:05
  card, you idiot real quick. We all watch this in my aunt and
• 52:09
  uncle's house in less than a year before I watch the Tyson
• 52:13
  Holyfield to which is the ear fight.
• 52:16
  So every time I watch the Pay-Per-View and my aunt and
• 52:17
  uncle's it was like, man, this is like yeah.
• 52:20
  You gotta come here more often? Yeah.
• 52:22
  Like some insane thing happens if I pay per views are awesome.
• 52:25
  But so, so I'll go ahead and we would use your hands.
• 52:29
  What are your cans? Jim 55.
• 52:31
  Okay, I'm going to give it 5-2. And I just want to say this one
• 52:35
  thing before we go and this is probably the number one match
• 52:42
  you showed Tan on wrestling fan if you really, yes, excellent
• 52:46
  point, right. I'm good.
• 52:48
  Yeah, it's it's it's WrestleMania.
• 52:52
  Okay, I wear this. Or we all see one of those?
• 52:57
  Yeah, my pal. Now, I don't know, Meltzer gives
• 53:02
  it a four and a half, but there was there was something in the
• 53:07
  Observer that I wanted to read. And it's a little long, so I'm
• 53:10
  sure. I'll stumble on my way through
• 53:11
  it, but first and foremost, he talks about how fully was in the
• 53:16
  crowd for Jimmy Snuka and Him going off the top of the cage at
• 53:19
  MSG was his moment, right? And Foley was always inspired by
• 53:24
  that, you see it in like the Dude, Love videos of him jumping
• 53:26
  off the top of a garage onto mattresses and stuff like that.
• 53:29
  But the take that Meltzer had in the Observer was a really,
• 53:35
  really interesting one and I'm just going to dive in.
• 53:38
  So, the question becomes, where does the business go from here
• 53:41
  for Foley? Sure, there's a one-way ticket
• 53:43
  right to Dive Right into every mythological Pro Wrestling Hall
• 53:47
  of Fame. And in one night, he turns
• 53:49
  himself into a bona fide pro wrestling Legend a status, he
• 53:53
  will a status. He will pretty well closed be
• 53:57
  close to anyway. Several hundred thousand.
• 54:00
  People saw the match live around the world and though the magic
• 54:03
  and through the magic of videotape and endless replays,
• 54:05
  those bumps will be viewed by tens of millions before the end
• 54:09
  of the week exponentially more by the end of time.
• 54:13
  Foley got up and while he was emerged unscathed, would be far
• 54:18
  from the truth but he didn't break any bones and he didn't
• 54:21
  even wind up in a Long Hospital. Stay from the blows that
• 54:24
  literally could have ended his life.
• 54:27
  He had been a few inches off. His Landing, the first time.
• 54:31
  The scary part is not what we just saw, but what we will
• 54:34
  witness next and I thought that was just tremendous way of
• 54:38
  putting it and just thinking about the evolution from the
• 54:42
  first hell in the Well, we're fully took this one and feeling
• 54:46
  like he had to one-up them and then where does the industry go
• 54:49
  from? Here was a really cool like take
• 54:54
  on this spectacle that we just saw.
• 54:58
  You could say, you could. All right, that's that.
• 54:59
  It's like it's rare. It's rare that we would say that
• 55:03
  Dave Meltzer said something beautifully.
• 55:06
  But like when you think about this, you could we could sit
• 55:09
  here and talk for another half-hour, hour about the flip
• 55:13
  side. Side of things about.
• 55:14
  Yeah like negatively how this matter could be viewed, you
• 55:19
  know? But because of the fact that it
• 55:21
  turned out, okay, you know, I think we can appreciate it.
• 55:24
  But as I'm watching them, like man, one little thing goes wrong
• 55:28
  and we're not even looking at this match.
• 55:31
  Yes. Yeah.
• 55:32
  That's like great. Like it's yeah, you know, little
• 55:36
  an inch, you know, it was a game of inches and goes the other
• 55:39
  way. We're all like, oh, condemning
• 55:40
  like they should Vince never should've let them, you know, do
• 55:43
  Whatever, whatever. Right.
• 55:44
  But right worked. It worked out, it worked.
• 55:47
  If you compare WWE to say NFL, would you say that Mick getting
• 55:53
  thrown off the cage? Was like the catch and then FL
• 55:57
  something like that? No, you're interesting playing
• 56:01
  on my niners. Heartstrings I I feel like it's
• 56:03
  a hard comparison to make like there's iconic moments that in
• 56:10
  that happen in sports that are associated with victories.
• 56:13
  Like this one, it's associated with a loss.
• 56:15
  Like it's I guess it's insane and I'm not trying to like yeah,
• 56:20
  it's hard. If you're doing but Kim is so
• 56:22
  sad. You sweaty like this.
• 56:23
  It's got to be a devastating tackle or something like a, you
• 56:26
  know, some sort of bone orange killer breaks Joe Theismann's
• 56:30
  leg? Yeah.
• 56:31
  It was about to say that. Yeah, I don't know, I don't
• 56:34
  think it's comparable, like, don't think it's glory.
• 56:37
  Is this a glorious match know, right?
• 56:39
  Like it's a spectacle, it's a spectacle mean.
• 56:43
  It's that's about Hanukkah. Yeah, I get Mike shanin.
• 56:47
  Yes, yeah, I see I don't associate this with a Foley
• 56:51
  loss. I don't want to associate this,
• 56:52
  like, I still after watching it, I could care less about who won
• 56:56
  exactly because under the so many things that happen.
• 56:58
  But I think you celebrated though, do celebrate this
• 57:01
  matching on me, right? I don't know, right?
• 57:03
  They probably not. So she said it better.
• 57:06
  I know what you're saying. Jim said, it better that like
• 57:08
  those those Sports moments are about Glory about Victory.
• 57:11
  And this one is about like brutality.
• 57:13
  E & a moment and something that was a spectacle and insane story
• 57:17
  for mankind though. Glory.
• 57:18
  Yeah? Hell yeah.
• 57:19
  It's Mick Foley. It's about Mick Foley.
• 57:21
  Right? Like yeah.
• 57:22
  Alright, it's Superfly mache and he said and he said it himself
• 57:25
  right later in those. I think in those one-man shows
• 57:28
  he did, he said that he never really got it, right.
• 57:31
  He never understood because he hated being asked about it but
• 57:34
  then he finally realized his kids were like Whose kids and
• 57:38
  younger generation was that snook, a moment for them.
• 57:41
  So then he clicked for him. So I don't know.
• 57:45
  Yeah, it's alright. It's it's a spectacle man and
• 57:48
  I'm so happy that we've covered it.
• 57:50
  But hell yeah, we gotta go back. Anybody that's listening to this
• 57:54
  has to go back and re-watch. It you like just spend the 20
• 57:56
  minutes and go re-watch it and I'll give you 20 bucks right
• 58:00
  now. If you can name, what Helena
• 58:01
  cell 3 is the third one. After this.
• 58:03
  What follows this? We got boss, man, Big Boss, Man
• 58:07
  taker. Damn it, I owe you $10 or $20.
• 58:12
  What of Lights Out? Intentionally did a stinker just
• 58:17
  to like reset, you know, cool the crowd.
• 58:20
  Yeah, cool, the crowd. And like I said, like I said, if
• 58:23
  you haven't watch this match in a while, go back and re-watch
• 58:25
  it, you know, for us to collectively.
• 58:28
  Give it five stars is unique. I think, I know what happens
• 58:31
  every so often, but they believe it or not, there's still another
• 58:37
  mat on this card and we've got our our championship match.
• 58:41
  It is a First Blood match for the WWF, Championship Kane with
• 58:45
  Paul, Bear versus Stone Cold Steve Austin.
• 58:47
  We get we get a Preview, which lets us know that if Cain loses
• 58:53
  he'd have to set himself on fire.
• 58:54
  We get a video package of Kane vs Undertaker and the number one
• 58:58
  Contender pressure. The promo is is purifier.
• 59:05
  Oh my God, the shot. The shot that Austin hits
• 59:09
  mankind. With the chair is is brutal.
• 59:13
  It's basically like a story of all four of these guys with
• 59:17
  released in mankind, Undertaker and Kane.
• 59:20
  Kane all involved. And I think one of the things
• 59:23
  that they said on Pritchard. Yeah, Vince and one of the
• 59:26
  things they say on Pritchard is basically, the reason why it is
• 59:29
  the way it is is because Austin's working hurt.
• 59:32
  He just came off of a staph infection at elbow, which is
• 59:36
  heavily wrapped. We all fat like that.
• 59:40
  Yeah. From that carry blood bath.
• 59:43
  Looks like a volleyball knee pad.
• 59:45
  It's like that. Yeah, yeah.
• 59:48
  Oh it's got to be nasty. T.
• 59:50
  So that's why they're separate and Taker and Austin or not
• 59:54
  working together, but there's like cans of gasoline that are
• 59:58
  set up around the ring and the crowd, absolutely erupts.
• 1:00:04
  When the glass breaks like which is amazing to think.
• 1:00:08
  Yeah. No.
• 1:00:09
  Coming off the other match. Like that is exactly why we need
• 1:00:12
  to say. Where's like the ivory match or
• 1:00:14
  someone like that. Nobody right Ivory.
• 1:00:16
  You know what I mean? Like huh?
• 1:00:18
  Look at the rocket with the head and shoulders.
• 1:00:20
  Right. The Stratos versus Jazz sources.
• 1:00:22
  Yeah, exactly like but but hey, Pittsburgh gets up for this.
• 1:00:27
  So, yeah, so Austin comes in hot with belt shots to Cain takes
• 1:00:33
  the cover off. The top turnbuckle immediately
• 1:00:35
  because of course they're going for blood right away.
• 1:00:37
  Now how How have we gotten into this match already?
• 1:00:40
  And we haven't talked about Cain and his gear, right?
• 1:00:44
  We're at a first blood drive, she I know all right.
• 1:00:47
  That was my next Point. Literally, my next night.
• 1:00:49
  How is how the hell is Cain going to bleed?
• 1:00:52
  Or how are we gonna see blood when Kane is barely showing any
• 1:00:55
  skin? The only skin you see is his
• 1:00:57
  left hand, everything else is covered.
• 1:00:59
  He wears one glove, he's got double length sleeves.
• 1:01:02
  He's got he damn well as Lee Hawkins turtle that God.
• 1:01:05
  Yeah, it's usually once don't show skin on the First date.
• 1:01:12
  So essentially it making point it out.
• 1:01:15
  Yeah, he does, he does but it makes sense that eventually in
• 1:01:19
  this match, Austin is trying to Ram the back of his head into
• 1:01:22
  that exposed. Turnbuckle because there's no
• 1:01:25
  other way that this dude is going to bleed and maybe that's
• 1:01:27
  the point. Maybe that's the storytelling of
• 1:01:29
  the cards are stacked against the Austin.
• 1:01:30
  But man, man, it's bizarre. So as they start to battle on
• 1:01:36
  the outside, its really bizarre because the cage just out of
• 1:01:40
  nowhere starts to lower and it starts lowering where it's like
• 1:01:47
  right over Austin's neck, like Cain is using it in his favor
• 1:01:50
  and this is when Jr. Starts questioning.
• 1:01:53
  I do too. He's question asking over and
• 1:01:55
  over again. Who's lowering the cage?
• 1:01:57
  Why are they lower the cage? You know, it's the only error
• 1:02:02
  and then I think chart says or maybe someone with more power,
• 1:02:06
  something like something to that effect, right?
• 1:02:08
  Isn't it obvious? It's probably Vince like, right?
• 1:02:11
  Right. I mean they never really allude
• 1:02:13
  to it, like, which is kind of interesting I thought that Jr.
• 1:02:17
  Never at one point says all that bastard.
• 1:02:19
  You know, like referring to Vince doing it because Vince is
• 1:02:22
  full-on, he'll here? Yeah.
• 1:02:24
  They're more confused about it which is a weird way to sell it.
• 1:02:27
  I don't quite get it. So right where they have the
• 1:02:30
  door, the door is wide open of the cage.
• 1:02:33
  There's like a bar at the bottom of it and with the door is,
• 1:02:37
  yeah, yeah. Where the door is that?
• 1:02:38
  Paint the cage starts to raise as Cain is like, like laying on
• 1:02:42
  top of that bar and he's like, teetering, like a good seven
• 1:02:46
  feet above the ground and Austin, finally flips him off.
• 1:02:49
  And it's at this point where Austin has a little bit of blood
• 1:02:53
  on his back showing and this is where Jr has to get creative and
• 1:02:57
  he keeps telling us that Earl hebner's made it clear he's not
• 1:03:00
  stopping the match for a scratch or a bloody nose.
• 1:03:03
  Yeah, something significant, they called it.
• 1:03:05
  I thought it was a really good way of recovering from That
• 1:03:08
  Could Have Ended badly how fast they must.
• 1:03:11
  Yeah. Then the back pocket, right?
• 1:03:12
  They had to of especially when you're working with like a cage
• 1:03:16
  on the outside, how can you not expect any type of blood or like
• 1:03:20
  any sort of debris that they didn't clean up from the match
• 1:03:23
  previous? Yeah, right.
• 1:03:25
  I'm tack. So they show highlights a Vince
• 1:03:28
  and Sable looking on from the sweet as the to, like, wrestle
• 1:03:33
  up. The ramp Cain takes a desk fan
• 1:03:36
  to the face which you can click here.
• 1:03:38
  The Plastic crack on them. Throws them into Earl.
• 1:03:41
  Hebner Jr.'s screaming that we need.
• 1:03:44
  Another ref, has the action, finally heads back to the ring.
• 1:03:48
  That, that hebner bump is pretty stiff it, huh?
• 1:03:51
  Yeah, and Hefner mind. You just missed WrestleMania for
• 1:03:54
  medical reasons. Oh, man.
• 1:03:56
  That's like takes this nasty bump into the guard rail, which
• 1:03:59
  is the bike. The bicycle guardrails.
• 1:04:01
  Got the padded ones I see now. So unforgiving, Jets the guy in
• 1:04:07
  the crowd with the The other side jackass, Austin shirt idea.
• 1:04:12
  I feel like that's the one that's forgotten about that
• 1:04:14
  shirt. Yeah.
• 1:04:16
  Well, you really see too that, too much.
• 1:04:18
  What did it mean? Well, what's on the other side?
• 1:04:20
  I never understood that wasn't actually, a, with a DTA.
• 1:04:24
  I don't know. I don't know, I don't know.
• 1:04:26
  Now, we gotta look it up. There's a test, the homework for
• 1:04:28
  the week, I got its head, help, Ted, and then so at this point,
• 1:04:32
  right, they head back to the ring and then we get none other
• 1:04:35
  than Mick Foley Foley is coming out.
• 1:04:38
  Now he's got a, how is this man? Walking out there with a chair?
• 1:04:41
  This was all planned, obviously the the cage lowers and Foley
• 1:04:47
  eats, a stunner from Austin. So what would they have done if
• 1:04:51
  he got like real, like, way more hurt?
• 1:04:53
  I don't know. I want I get in my Burger King
• 1:04:56
  hats in the front. Yeah.
• 1:04:58
  Jean face paint join in. Whatever.
• 1:05:01
  That Apple VR thing is that just came out.
• 1:05:03
  I wonder if it lets you like going to Foley shoes I would
• 1:05:05
  love to know what it feels like right now.
• 1:05:08
  Heading back to the ring. Like what is his body?
• 1:05:10
  Even feel like I can imagine the body the headache, like Jesus.
• 1:05:14
  I'm sure he's must be LOL, other planet.
• 1:05:16
  Yeah, yeah. This is a guy that doesn't like
• 1:05:20
  Medicaid or self-medicate mind. You is.
• 1:05:23
  So, you know, he's probably on a different planet right now.
• 1:05:29
  So he goes. Here comes Undertaker in his
• 1:05:33
  black, crewneck sweater or sweatshirt, which I thought was
• 1:05:37
  interesting but his other his shirt did get ripped on the
• 1:05:41
  other the other match. But he goes to take out mankind
• 1:05:45
  with the chair as those Austin. They both missed.
• 1:05:49
  And Austin takes the chair to the face.
• 1:05:52
  That's Cuts himself, open immediately.
• 1:05:55
  See him kicking himself? No.
• 1:05:56
  Oh God, yeah, take her take her doesn't realize it, take her
• 1:05:59
  throws Hepner in the ring and then he's like going to wake him
• 1:06:04
  up like dude. Okay this is the weirdest ending
• 1:06:06
  because this takes her census taker just hit Austin with the
• 1:06:11
  chair accidentally, right? And you're coming out to help
• 1:06:15
  Austin but then you throw Earl hebner back in the ring.
• 1:06:18
  You doused him with gasoline to wake him up so that you can help
• 1:06:22
  Austin. But having her looks up and sees
• 1:06:24
  Austin's, face covered in blood as Kane, lays in the middle of
• 1:06:28
  the Ring. After Austin's chair shot,
• 1:06:30
  Heppner calls the match. Kane's our new Champion, we
• 1:06:33
  never see him or pallbearer with the title as they go off the
• 1:06:37
  air. Always sees Vince, like smiling
• 1:06:39
  in the booth. Goodness, that's a cuts to
• 1:06:41
  credits real fast, what? Oh, yeah, it does, man.
• 1:06:44
  That's a really good point that you never see Cain or Bearer.
• 1:06:48
  Or with the tide. Oh that's that's crazy and Jr,
• 1:06:52
  Jr. Smelling the smell of selling
• 1:06:54
  the smell of gas was. Oh my God, those films are just
• 1:06:57
  horrifying. Now, do they is this what?
• 1:07:01
  Well, I guess we're going to get there.
• 1:07:02
  I don't want to, you know, this isn't a homework question
• 1:07:05
  because in August were yeah. In August, we're going to cover
• 1:07:09
  SummerSlam 1998, but I'm curious because I don't really recall
• 1:07:15
  how they set up. Take her verse Austin at I am
• 1:07:19
  and part of it and I know obviously this plays a role in
• 1:07:22
  it, but this ending is really sloppy, which I guess if you
• 1:07:27
  want to take the title off, Austin, like you kind of have to
• 1:07:30
  this was the, get it back for a night?
• 1:07:32
  Yeah, Frank. Yeah.
• 1:07:34
  On Monday Night Raw. He, they come out and Kane is
• 1:07:38
  intro'd as the new champion in the opening segment, Austin
• 1:07:42
  comes out and disputes that Kane isn't the one who busted them
• 1:07:46
  open, so he demands a rematch. And then he defeats Kane in the
• 1:07:49
  main event of the pay-per-view. And he has a face to face with
• 1:07:53
  the Undertaker, which ends up with taker, eating a stunner and
• 1:07:56
  I'm sure that we're off to the races going to SummerSlam.
• 1:07:59
  Yeah, but he'll we will get the race.
• 1:08:01
  Is run a Highway to Hell pal? Oh well, well done, well done.
• 1:08:04
  Well done. All right.
• 1:08:07
  Cans in the cooler. Who wants to go first for this
• 1:08:09
  one. How do you?
• 1:08:10
  I mean, I'll go it's hard to follow.
• 1:08:15
  How does it how do you file the previous match?
• 1:08:17
  But it's still fun. The promos fight its physical.
• 1:08:22
  It's pretty brutal. You got mankind.
• 1:08:25
  You've got Undertaker showing up.
• 1:08:26
  I'm gonna give it a three point seven five.
• 1:08:28
  It's it's Austin. Kind of at the height of his W
• 1:08:31
  of powers. I'd say right coming off the WWE
• 1:08:34
  WrestleMania title win. I think.
• 1:08:37
  Maybe that's generous, I don't know, you guys.
• 1:08:39
  I'm actually well, I gave it a 3 and a half cans.
• 1:08:43
  Yeah, that's right. Was it?
• 1:08:44
  I thought it was a classic Attitude Era main event.
• 1:08:48
  It's a good brawl, they made good use of like the atmosphere,
• 1:08:53
  like the cage, the comment down was good and everything.
• 1:08:58
  It never really got boring. So no that's exactly that's a
• 1:09:02
  really good point. This match goes about 15 minutes
• 1:09:05
  and to me it never really went and got boring until like follow
• 1:09:09
  up. What they just did at Helen cell
• 1:09:12
  was is pretty tough. I was, I'm right there with you.
• 1:09:14
  I gave it a 3 and a half and this podcast is not generally a
• 1:09:17
  fan of Cain corrects, right? Like I'm kind of like the cane
• 1:09:20
  here. Yeah he doesn't he's he's good.
• 1:09:22
  He's he looks like our movie star in this one with the
• 1:09:24
  especially with the false is when came out.
• 1:09:26
  He's at his best. Yeah, the me.
• 1:09:28
  Awesome. Yeah.
• 1:09:30
  I I'm the Hai man. Again, I'm going for cans in the
• 1:09:34
  cooler. I it was extremely unique and
• 1:09:39
  even though that the stipulations were out of this
• 1:09:41
  world, insane between the Iowa alive, my job to like the, the
• 1:09:50
  actual Cain's body suit that I guess is to make you think that
• 1:09:54
  they're actually going to light them on fire.
• 1:09:56
  Is that the is that the point of it?
• 1:09:57
  Yeah. Like Like man it, but all of
• 1:10:01
  this being said, it was extremely unique.
• 1:10:04
  The match was, it was interesting.
• 1:10:06
  It was something that I went back and watched again of like,
• 1:10:09
  all right, this is a one-match card.
• 1:10:10
  Like this is just hell in the cell is the only thing I want to
• 1:10:14
  see and I maybe I need to watch my, do my homework in the way
• 1:10:18
  that I did this week where I was.
• 1:10:19
  So insanely locked in but man, it was, I'm going for cans in
• 1:10:24
  the cooler. I loved it and it could be one
• 1:10:25
  of the more overlooked matches evolved.
• 1:10:28
  Yes. Oh, he's Ali.
• 1:10:29
  Yeah, yeah. Nobody talks about it because
• 1:10:32
  you just came out of the shoes of he'll miss.
• 1:10:34
  Yeah. That's our game of three three
• 1:10:37
  and a quarter. Okay, that's fair.
• 1:10:40
  I mean yeah, I agree. And it's an awesome has some
• 1:10:44
  great lines and that promo he's talking about like aw that's
• 1:10:47
  don't go let's go Throw Another Log on the Fire.
• 1:10:49
  Like yeah that's good, that's good.
• 1:10:54
  It's good stuff. So I guess we need to give it a
• 1:10:57
  quick table and cooler overall for this event.
• 1:11:00
  I'll go first the beginning, half of this event is painful
• 1:11:05
  last week was very difficult to get through but then you look at
• 1:11:09
  the back half and then it's almost similar to what the last
• 1:11:14
  pay-per-view that aew just put out you know the words out of my
• 1:11:18
  mouth 23 match card. Yeah and it's back heavy so I
• 1:11:22
  can't go ahead and I can't give it.
• 1:11:24
  Like a for can in the cooler. I have a hard time because of
• 1:11:28
  how iconic the match is going below, a three and a half.
• 1:11:33
  So I I'm going three-and-a-half. Overall.
• 1:11:36
  I feel like that was the General like rating that we gave most
• 1:11:41
  matches but you did say you'd give this match or at least the
• 1:11:44
  Mick Foley Undertaker Match more than a 5 which would you know?
• 1:11:48
  Yeah it tips the scales. Yeah I think maybe this is a
• 1:11:51
  case of what's the expression like a rising tide?
• 1:11:54
  Lifts all boats or something like that.
• 1:11:55
  So I'll give it a 4. I'm going to do it.
• 1:11:59
  I give it a 4 plus we watched it live.
• 1:12:01
  Yeah there so I can go for for it.
• 1:12:03
  I could go. You raised me to for you know
• 1:12:05
  why I didn't want to give it a 4 because I didn't want someone to
• 1:12:07
  come back at me and say well you would have said he W.
• 1:12:10
  Was that high? Yeah because you know what this
• 1:12:12
  wasn't a seven hour show this is your show you can do whatever
• 1:12:15
  you want. Yeah didn't have mankind then
• 1:12:18
  like the number one moment in wrestling.
• 1:12:20
  Yeah yes, I'm going for I'm going for two hours in Mike. 45
• 1:12:24
  minutes. I'm not gonna let those aw marks
• 1:12:27
  get to me. I had the same mentality when I
• 1:12:31
  was trying to rate this and I actually remember to write down
• 1:12:34
  a cans in the cooler for it and I thought to the double or
• 1:12:38
  nothing pay-per-view, that it was truly felt like a to match
• 1:12:42
  card. This was the same way based on
• 1:12:44
  my rating, we can say two and a half because I enjoyed the
• 1:12:47
  Shamrock and rock match. So I'm going three and a half
• 1:12:51
  cans and it was An abomination in the first half.
• 1:12:56
  It was like, holy shit. It's one of those like examples
• 1:12:59
  of, you know, people always say, well, if you go back and watch
• 1:13:02
  The Attitude Era, it's not that good.
• 1:13:03
  Like yes, this is probably an example.
• 1:13:06
  This is a perfect example of the front, half of the card of that
• 1:13:09
  being true, but the back half of the card is why we all look at
• 1:13:13
  the Attitude Era in such a amazing light, or at least, most
• 1:13:16
  of us car. Yeah.
• 1:13:17
  But anyway, like, I, I'm going three and a half, because this
• 1:13:22
  is something that for all the Right reasons you should be
• 1:13:25
  going back and watching this is reminiscent of Survivor Series
• 1:13:29
  97. Yes we're the first part of gift
• 1:13:32
  card. We covered was like absolute
• 1:13:34
  doll Headbangers. Yeah a reoccurring theme sorry.
• 1:13:38
  Glenn on dicking around on there and yeah but no but in this you
• 1:13:43
  know but there's a there's a couple of decent matches in the.
• 1:13:47
  Yeah I'm sticking with my for the first tip had shoulders.
• 1:13:52
  Wait wait. Did Mike give his rating?
• 1:13:59
  No 3.75. Let's go.
• 1:14:02
  I'm just glad that we got Mike's Head and Shoulders match out of
• 1:14:06
  the way. So we never have to worry about
• 1:14:07
  covering that again. All right Kudos man, I'm gonna
• 1:14:12
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• 1:14:15
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• 1:15:20
  Honorable mention the Iron, Sheik has passed away at the age
• 1:15:24
  of 81. It's been really cool to kind of
• 1:15:27
  relive some of those early 90's, early 80s in that early
• 1:15:32
  Hulkamania time when Chic does the job for for Hulk and
• 1:15:37
  reliving. A lot of the the funny takes
• 1:15:41
  that he has on Howard Stern, if you haven't gone to see those,
• 1:15:45
  it's worth reliving. Some of its pretty rough around
• 1:15:49
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• 1:15:58
  A little less somber, we have another announcement from Tony
• 1:16:02
  Kahn a week ago, and he has announced that CM Punk and FTR
• 1:16:07
  versus Samoa Joe and bullet Club.
• 1:16:09
  Gold will be the announced main event for this upcoming weekends
• 1:16:14
  Collision. So, the very first match, excuse
• 1:16:18
  me, the very first pay-per-view CM Punk, who very first episode.
• 1:16:21
  CM Punk, will be back. And in a match, I'm not sure if
• 1:16:25
  this is really moving the needle to make me want to watch, but
• 1:16:29
  Hit the DVR play on Sunday morning and then I'm really
• 1:16:33
  enjoying. Also our final honorable mention
• 1:16:35
  piece. I'm really enjoying the little
• 1:16:37
  bit of Storytelling that we're starting to get with the the
• 1:16:40
  erosion of the Judgment Day will see where this actually goes.
• 1:16:43
  But the last two weeks, they've given us some Finn Balor, and
• 1:16:46
  Damian priest stuff. And as priest has qualified for
• 1:16:50
  the Money in the Bank, Finn now has a match with Seth Rollins
• 1:16:54
  and they're going back and forth about.
• 1:16:56
  Well, if you win the briefcase, you wouldn't cash it On me,
• 1:16:58
  right? And then jbd McDonough is around
• 1:17:01
  and is being courted. It Seems like by Finn Balor, so
• 1:17:05
  really interesting? I'm excited and I'm sure that it
• 1:17:08
  will make the top three very, very soon.
• 1:17:11
  But let's dive into the real top three this week.
• 1:17:14
  Starting off with NXT, that is right.
• 1:17:17
  I said NXT. So Braun breaker has called out
• 1:17:20
  Seth Rollins and in last week's episode of NXT and then in this
• 1:17:25
  week's you get a video package from Seth Rollins.
• 1:17:28
  Accepting and that he will face Braun breaker for the
• 1:17:32
  heavyweight championship on NXT. Next week is, is this enough to
• 1:17:37
  make you tune in? Not the same NXT that it was.
• 1:17:42
  Now that you're saying live, I don't watch any wrestling live
• 1:17:48
  except for pay-per-views May basically, because we'll be
• 1:17:51
  recording our next episode which will tell you about in a minute.
• 1:17:54
  But ultimately, I'm super intrigued by this.
• 1:17:58
  This, this is something that I am going to make sure I go back
• 1:18:01
  and watch. And yeah, like you said we've
• 1:18:03
  got other, we've got other responsibilities on Tuesday
• 1:18:05
  evenings, but I'm super intrigued, I love that.
• 1:18:09
  Seth Rollins is taking this title and is making it the
• 1:18:11
  Workhorse title and then is scheduling an open Challenge on
• 1:18:15
  Raw the next week I believe to. So, I'm here for it.
• 1:18:19
  I think that they are going to take the same path with this
• 1:18:21
  heavy weights, heavyweight title that aren't Cassidy is doing in
• 1:18:25
  a UW and just defending it and defending it, defending it, and
• 1:18:28
  It one of the most important titles in WWE.
• 1:18:32
  So let's go back to to aew here last week, we had a promo battle
• 1:18:39
  between mjf and Adam Cole which is on that work, shooty plane
• 1:18:44
  right. We got a lot of playing off of
• 1:18:48
  the InTune fans that know all of the dirt sheets that know all of
• 1:18:52
  the rumors that are going around and it was extremely
• 1:18:55
  entertaining in the moment, it was captivating to me again, it
• 1:18:58
  kept me. Me really engaged, but I'm
• 1:19:00
  seeing a lot of feedback on both sides here of, like their people
• 1:19:02
  getting tired of the M8, M JF, work shoot style, promos and you
• 1:19:08
  know, calling back to Adam Cole and his carrying cross killing
• 1:19:12
  in his and NXT. I thought was a really nice
• 1:19:15
  touch and I am not necessarily expecting a lot out of this Feud
• 1:19:21
  as they're going to be fighting in an Eliminator match early on
• 1:19:24
  in this week, and it's already happened when you're listening
• 1:19:27
  to this. So, I don't see this being a
• 1:19:29
  long program, but it's something good to fire up Adam Cole.
• 1:19:35
  And lastly Story number one, I'm going to give this to Triple H,
• 1:19:39
  continuing to really put his stamp on WWE and cleaning up.
• 1:19:43
  The WWE title scenarios. We've already seen the big
• 1:19:47
  titles with Seth and Roman and now we are getting Oscar being
• 1:19:51
  presented with the new WWE Women's Championship which, for
• 1:19:55
  some reason has Undisputed listed on the title.
• 1:19:58
  Even though that it was not delivered to us in that way, and
• 1:20:02
  then we see it. Yes, it is disputed.
• 1:20:06
  And then we see Charlotte Flair return and jump the line where
• 1:20:10
  we get some storytelling with Bianca, Bel-Air being pissed
• 1:20:13
  off. And ultimately, it's, it could
• 1:20:16
  show some some fire, under Bianca changing her character a
• 1:20:20
  little bit. I don't know if they'll go full
• 1:20:22
  heal with her, but I do enjoy that.
• 1:20:24
  They're adding another wrinkle to her character.
• 1:20:27
  And then also, we had the women's Tag Team Championships
• 1:20:30
  will, which will be unified the WWE and the NXT Women's Tag
• 1:20:34
  titles with Rhonda Shana and then the NXT Champions at this
• 1:20:38
  point, which Elba fire. And I forget the other one.
• 1:20:41
  So, excuse me, but I liked on. Thank you so much, picking me up
• 1:20:45
  baby. But I am here for what Triple H
• 1:20:49
  is doing and really putting the stamp on it.
• 1:20:51
  I hope that the men's titles and the on the tag team side, as
• 1:20:56
  well as the Intercontinental Championship is next for getting
• 1:20:59
  facelifts. And then we're good, we're good.
• 1:21:02
  And Triple H is really truly. Starting the Triple H are like
• 1:21:06
  you said, cleaning up the title seen it.
• 1:21:07
  That's what it feels like, man is it's nice tight it up and
• 1:21:10
  make it nice and clean. And yeah, get rid of those like
• 1:21:14
  this tie tag titles from the factor in the fat.
• 1:21:18
  Yeah, you know that Diggy gotta love it.
• 1:21:21
  Awesome. Thank you.
• 1:21:23
  So as Matt alluded to earlier next week we are drop in part 1
• 1:21:29
  chapter 3 we're going to be covering bash at the beach. 1898
• 1:21:35
  and like I said earlier, last week, we are going chronological
• 1:21:39
  order, King of the Ring bash. At the beach, we've got some
• 1:21:42
  ECW, we've got some WWF that were covering culminating with
• 1:21:46
  SummerSlam. It's going to be a good summer,
• 1:21:50
  it's going to be our first. We got a car Karl Malone Mash,
• 1:21:53
  right? The home and put it down on the
• 1:21:57
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