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- 0:17Speaker 2: So the hunt for the mythical free trade agreement with
- 0:19Speaker 2: India continues, but here's some good news. India has started
- 0:24Speaker 2: to sound out some of its largest businesses to hear
- 0:26Speaker 2: what they think about that potential free trade deal with US.
- 0:31Speaker 2: The Indian government sent an email to members of the
- 0:34Speaker 2: Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry asking for
- 0:38Speaker 2: feedback on the idea of starting trade negotiations. So Badachala
- 0:43Speaker 2: is the chair of the Indian New Zealand Business Council
- 0:45Speaker 2: and joints. You now, how about it?
- 0:48Speaker 3: Hi Andrew?
- 0:48Speaker 2: How are you very good? This is good for New Zealand.
- 0:51Speaker 2: It's a sign at least in the government. The Indian
- 0:54Speaker 2: government's starting to ask businesses what can we do with
- 0:56Speaker 2: New Zealand.
- 0:57Speaker 3: I think it's wonderful, wonderful news and it actually it
- 1:01Speaker 3: took time, but it's getting getting somehow, a good, better
- 1:05Speaker 3: idea for everyone.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Yes, you say it takes time. We've been talking about
- 1:09Speaker 2: this for at least seven years, so this might this
- 1:13Speaker 2: might be the first step. But you know, are we head.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Do we have another seven years ahead of us?
- 1:18Speaker 3: I think if you see government, the current government have
- 1:22Speaker 3: done a lot in last year by going to Indian
- 1:25Speaker 3: building that relationship between diplomats and the government. If I
- 1:31Speaker 3: take the six years before that were we're pretty much
- 1:34Speaker 3: not not well in terms of the travel and discussion
- 1:38Speaker 3: to the government. Is that correct? So I think that's
- 1:41Speaker 3: that I'll discount that six years and said that this
- 1:44Speaker 3: year has been wonderful or last year have been wonderful.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Good that's true. Now if the private sector starts saying, yeah,
- 1:50Speaker 2: we're a little bit interested, that would make things happen faster,
- 1:53Speaker 2: wouldn't it.
- 1:54Speaker 3: I think from an Indian Indian perspective, private sector gets
- 1:59Speaker 3: a kind of a say to do it. So it's again,
- 2:02Speaker 3: it will not happen immediately. I think I'm not saying
- 2:04Speaker 3: that it will happen tomorrow, but it's a direction which
- 2:07Speaker 3: we want to see and with coming months or years
- 2:11Speaker 3: you will see more improvements or more positives in the relationship.
- 2:15Speaker 2: So look, what exactly would India want to import from
- 2:20Speaker 2: New Zealand? What could we sell them? What would they
- 2:22Speaker 2: want from US?
- 2:23Speaker 3: I think a lot of time, if you see I
- 2:26Speaker 3: was in India two weeks ago. What they want is
- 2:31Speaker 3: more about how we can provide the technology transfers or
- 2:34Speaker 3: we can provide about investments in India in terms of
- 2:37Speaker 3: manufacturing sector or even improve the tourism sector or other
- 2:41Speaker 3: areas even against the primary industries are doing well towards
- 2:45Speaker 3: getting to the direction of positivity.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Well, you say saying manufacturing and you're saying technology because
- 2:50Speaker 2: because we always instantly think you know, primary products meat,
- 2:53Speaker 2: beef and milk and all the lamb and all that
- 2:56Speaker 2: sort of stuff. But you're you're saying that the India
- 2:59Speaker 2: will be more interested in how we make the meat,
- 3:02Speaker 2: the beef, the lamb and the milk, then the milk
- 3:06Speaker 2: and the and the beef.
- 3:07Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that we don't want that with India,
- 3:12Speaker 3: but like the Focus which has been working on that.
- 3:14Speaker 3: What else news and can give so what we are
- 3:17Speaker 3: doing with India now and we can improve on that.
- 3:20Speaker 3: But if you see example of Racon which have provided
- 3:22Speaker 3: the transmitters for the tand Ryan three space program, So
- 3:27Speaker 3: there are a lot news and can offer. We have
- 3:29Speaker 3: a good startup ecosystem, we have good tech tech companies
- 3:33Speaker 3: or doing some work like road marking, in India. Software
- 3:36Speaker 3: is done by a news and companies, so there's a
- 3:37Speaker 3: lot happening. So we always called dairy or meat or kiwi.
- 3:43Speaker 3: They are already working hard to get there, but we
- 3:46Speaker 3: need to open more doors with India.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Also, yes, I saw the photographs that India took of
- 3:50Speaker 2: the Moon because they see a space so they sped
- 3:53Speaker 2: a spaceship to the moon. And yes, we have some
- 3:55Speaker 2: very good rocket engineers here and so we could help
- 3:58Speaker 2: in many different ways. What could we offer India to
- 4:01Speaker 2: make the deal more attractive because we already have pretty
- 4:04Speaker 2: low tariffs internationally and with India. So what have we
- 4:07Speaker 2: got that they could make them go? Oh goodat we're in.
- 4:10Speaker 3: See if you see all the deals of India are
- 4:13Speaker 3: also one of the lines of people movement. Example, we're
- 4:16Speaker 3: talking about how many people we can travel from India
- 4:18Speaker 3: at what kind of visa that they're making the process
- 4:21Speaker 3: more smoother. At the same time, the technology which helps
- 4:25Speaker 3: India to increase this productivity and we do have some
- 4:28Speaker 3: good technologies to work on that. In terms of when
- 4:30Speaker 3: we say daily farming, we talk about robotics in giving
- 4:34Speaker 3: fruit picking or apple fruit picking. So there are things
- 4:37Speaker 3: apart from what we are doing now. So if you
- 4:40Speaker 3: see the Worksity is doing, or from AIRA is doing,
- 4:43Speaker 3: or Apple and Peer are doing, they're doing great work.
- 4:47Speaker 3: But some more sweetening can help things get there. I
- 4:52Speaker 3: can see that.
- 4:53Speaker 2: So with all this good news that the Indian government
- 4:56Speaker 2: has asked for consultation from private companies and how they're
- 4:58Speaker 2: feeling about things, do you think it's realistic to think
- 5:01Speaker 2: we might really start real negotiations in the next couple
- 5:03Speaker 2: of years.
- 5:05Speaker 3: I think we should start faster than that. I can
- 5:07Speaker 3: say that'd be because see India also is looking for
- 5:10Speaker 3: more partners. If you see India five years ago was
- 5:13Speaker 3: different to what it's today, they are doing faster deal signing.
- 5:20Speaker 3: If I say currently there are around ten to eleven
- 5:23Speaker 3: agreements are in discussion within there with other countries, so
- 5:26Speaker 3: they can if they want to do a free trade
- 5:28Speaker 3: agreement or they want to do any comprehensive agreement, they
- 5:31Speaker 3: can sign in one year to eighteen months. Also, well,
- 5:35Speaker 3: Lisia is fast now.
- 5:36Speaker 2: That is great and let's helped her because I think
- 5:38Speaker 2: we'd be great friends together and we do some good
- 5:41Speaker 2: business together. And Baratta, I would like to thank you
- 5:43Speaker 2: very much for your time today. That's Barachala, who is
- 5:45Speaker 2: the Indian New Zealand Business Council Chair.
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