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- 0:57Have
- 0:57you
- 0:57ever
- 0:58wondered
- 0:58why
- 0:58end
- 0:58zones
- 0:59are
- 0:59decorated
- 1:00or
- 1:00how
- 1:00the
- 1:00spiral
- 1:01snap
- 1:01actually
- 1:01began?
- 1:02In
- 1:021927,
- 1:03the
- 1:04relocation
- 1:04of
- 1:04the
- 1:04goalpost
- 1:05sparked
- 1:05a
- 1:05design
- 1:06revolution
- 1:06on
- 1:07the
- 1:07gridiron,
- 1:07leading
- 1:08to
- 1:08some
- 1:08of
- 1:08the
- 1:08most
- 1:08unique
- 1:09field
- 1:09markings
- 1:10in
- 1:10history.
- 1:11Joining
- 1:11us
- 1:11today
- 1:12is
- 1:12the
- 1:12football
- 1:12historian
- 1:13Timothy
- 1:13P.
- 1:14Brown
- 1:14to
- 1:14reveal
- 1:15the
- 1:15fascinating
- 1:16story
- 1:16of
- 1:16A.W.
- 1:17Briggs,
- 1:17grid
- 1:18markings
- 1:18and
- 1:19how
- 1:19his
- 1:19brother,
- 1:19H.R.
- 1:20Briggs,
- 1:20changed
- 1:21the
- 1:21game
- 1:21forever
- 1:21by
- 1:22perfecting
- 1:22the
- 1:22spiral
- 1:23snap
- 1:23against
- 1:23the
- 1:24legends
- 1:24like
- 1:24Jim
- 1:25Thorpe.
- 1:25Let's
- 1:26dig
- 1:26into
- 1:26the
- 1:26archaeology
- 1:27of
- 1:27the
- 1:27game
- 1:27with
- 1:28footballarchaeology.com's
- 1:30Timothy
- 1:30Brown.
- 1:31Hey
- 1:32there.
- 1:32Looking
- 1:33forward
- 1:33to
- 1:33chatting
- 1:34once
- 1:34again
- 1:34and
- 1:35just
- 1:35want
- 1:36to
- 1:36remind
- 1:36you
- 1:36of
- 1:37what
- 1:37they
- 1:37used
- 1:37to
- 1:37say.
- 1:38It's
- 1:39fun
- 1:39to
- 1:39play
- 1:39at
- 1:40the
- 1:40YMCA
- 1:41training
- 1:41school
- 1:42in
- 1:42Springfield,
- 1:42Mass.
- 1:44I.
- 1:44I
- 1:44don't
- 1:44remember
- 1:45that
- 1:45verse
- 1:45from
- 1:45the
- 1:46Village
- 1:46People.
- 1:46Yeah,
- 1:46it's
- 1:47the
- 1:47beginning
- 1:47of
- 1:47it.
- 1:48You
- 1:48just,
- 1:48you
- 1:49know,
- 1:49it's.
- 1:49It's
- 1:50one
- 1:50of
- 1:50the
- 1:50cutout,
- 1:50you
- 1:50know,
- 1:51EP
- 1:52kind
- 1:52of
- 1:52versions.
- 1:53Yeah.
- 1:53We
- 1:53have
- 1:54smaller
- 1:54radio
- 1:55stations
- 1:55here
- 1:55in
- 1:55Erie,
- 1:56so
- 1:56maybe
- 1:56they
- 1:56just
- 1:56condense
- 1:57the
- 1:57song
- 1:57a
- 1:57little
- 1:58bit.
- 1:58Yeah.
- 1:59I
- 1:59grew
- 1:59up
- 1:59in
- 1:59a
- 1:59big
- 1:59city
- 1:59of
- 2:00Milwaukee,
- 2:00so,
- 2:00you
- 2:01know,
- 2:01we
- 2:01were.
- 2:01We
- 2:02were
- 2:02on
- 2:02top
- 2:02of
- 2:02things
- 2:03there.
- 2:03Yeah,
- 2:03I
- 2:03guess
- 2:04so.
- 2:05Well,
- 2:05we
- 2:05are
- 2:06poorly
- 2:06trying
- 2:07to
- 2:07allude
- 2:07into
- 2:07one
- 2:08of
- 2:08Tim's
- 2:09recent
- 2:09tidbits
- 2:09that
- 2:10he
- 2:10wrote.
- 2:10And
- 2:11this
- 2:11is
- 2:11a
- 2:11lot
- 2:11of
- 2:11words
- 2:12here.
- 2:12So,
- 2:12A.W.
- 2:13Briggs,
- 2:13H.R.
- 2:14Briggs,
- 2:14the
- 2:15YMCA
- 2:16and
- 2:16Jim
- 2:16Thorpe.
- 2:17Now,
- 2:18that
- 2:18is
- 2:18quite
- 2:18an
- 2:19array
- 2:19of
- 2:19words
- 2:20there,
- 2:20Tim.
- 2:20And
- 2:21a
- 2:21lot
- 2:21of
- 2:21three
- 2:21different
- 2:22people,
- 2:22an
- 2:22institution
- 2:23that
- 2:23everybody
- 2:24in
- 2:24America
- 2:24is
- 2:24familiar
- 2:25with.
- 2:25How
- 2:25do
- 2:26these
- 2:26all
- 2:26connect
- 2:26in
- 2:26your
- 2:27story?
- 2:27Well,
- 2:28you
- 2:28know,
- 2:28I
- 2:28kind
- 2:28of
- 2:29alluded
- 2:29to
- 2:29this
- 2:29a
- 2:30lot
- 2:30in
- 2:30last
- 2:30week's
- 2:31episode,
- 2:31but
- 2:32so
- 2:32some
- 2:34tidbits,
- 2:34and
- 2:35some.
- 2:35Some
- 2:35of
- 2:35my
- 2:35favorite
- 2:36ones
- 2:36are
- 2:36things
- 2:36where,
- 2:37like,
- 2:38the
- 2:39storyline
- 2:39is
- 2:40one
- 2:40where
- 2:40it's.
- 2:41It's
- 2:41kind
- 2:41of
- 2:41like
- 2:41a
- 2:41good
- 2:42Seinfeld
- 2:42episode
- 2:43where
- 2:44these
- 2:44seemingly
- 2:45unrelated
- 2:46topics
- 2:47and
- 2:48actions,
- 2:49you're
- 2:49going,
- 2:50where.
- 2:50Where
- 2:50is
- 2:51he
- 2:51going
- 2:51with
- 2:52this?
- 2:52And
- 2:53then
- 2:53at
- 2:53the
- 2:53end,
- 2:54the
- 2:54golf
- 2:55balls
- 2:55and
- 2:55the
- 2:55wheels,
- 2:56you
- 2:56were
- 2:56starting.
- 2:56To
- 2:56make
- 2:57me
- 2:57nervous
- 2:57when
- 2:57you
- 2:57started
- 2:57talking
- 2:58about
- 2:58Seinfeld
- 2:58and
- 2:58your
- 2:58arms
- 2:59were
- 2:59moving.
- 2:59I
- 2:59thought
- 2:59you're
- 2:59gonna
- 2:59start
- 2:59dancing
- 3:00like
- 3:00Elaine.
- 3:01And
- 3:01we.
- 3:01No,
- 3:01no,
- 3:02we
- 3:02can't
- 3:02have
- 3:02that
- 3:02on
- 3:03this
- 3:03program.
- 3:06So
- 3:06anyways,
- 3:06this
- 3:06is
- 3:07one
- 3:07of
- 3:07those
- 3:07where
- 3:07it's
- 3:07kind
- 3:07of
- 3:08like,
- 3:09it's,
- 3:11you
- 3:11know.
- 3:12So
- 3:12I
- 3:12wrote
- 3:12a
- 3:12tidbit
- 3:13quite
- 3:13some
- 3:13time
- 3:14ago
- 3:14about.
- 3:15In
- 3:151927,
- 3:16when
- 3:17they
- 3:17put
- 3:17the
- 3:17goal
- 3:18posts
- 3:18on
- 3:19the
- 3:19end
- 3:19line,
- 3:20it
- 3:21was,
- 3:21like,
- 3:21almost
- 3:22universal.
- 3:22Everyone
- 3:23was
- 3:23concerned
- 3:24about
- 3:25how
- 3:26are
- 3:26people
- 3:26going
- 3:27to
- 3:27know
- 3:27where
- 3:27the
- 3:27goal
- 3:28line
- 3:28is?
- 3:28Because
- 3:29everybody's
- 3:29so
- 3:29used
- 3:30to
- 3:31the
- 3:31goal
- 3:31posts
- 3:32designating
- 3:33the
- 3:33Goal
- 3:34line.
- 3:35That
- 3:35it
- 3:35was
- 3:35like,
- 3:36are
- 3:36people
- 3:36going
- 3:36to
- 3:37realize
- 3:37that
- 3:37you
- 3:37can
- 3:37score
- 3:3810
- 3:39yards
- 3:39in
- 3:39front
- 3:39of
- 3:40the
- 3:40goal
- 3:40posts?
- 3:41And
- 3:41I
- 3:42mean,
- 3:42it
- 3:42was
- 3:42like
- 3:43in
- 3:43all
- 3:43the
- 3:43papers,
- 3:44everybody
- 3:44is,
- 3:44you
- 3:45know,
- 3:45stewing
- 3:45about
- 3:45this
- 3:45that
- 3:46whole
- 3:46summer.
- 3:47And
- 3:47so,
- 3:48you
- 3:48know,
- 3:48a
- 3:48lot
- 3:48of
- 3:49schools
- 3:50develop
- 3:50solutions
- 3:51to
- 3:51try
- 3:51to
- 3:51figure
- 3:51out
- 3:52how
- 3:52do
- 3:52we
- 3:53distinguish
- 3:55the
- 3:55goal
- 3:55line
- 3:56now
- 3:56that
- 3:56the
- 3:57goal
- 3:57posts
- 3:58are
- 3:5810
- 3:58yards
- 3:59further
- 3:59back.
- 4:01And
- 4:01so
- 4:01one
- 4:01of
- 4:01the
- 4:02things
- 4:02that
- 4:02they
- 4:02did
- 4:02was
- 4:03there
- 4:03were
- 4:03a
- 4:03couple
- 4:04schools
- 4:04that
- 4:04put
- 4:04these
- 4:05little
- 4:05paper
- 4:05pieces
- 4:06of
- 4:06paper
- 4:06on,
- 4:06like,
- 4:07it's
- 4:07like
- 4:08on
- 4:08popsicle
- 4:09sticks
- 4:09or
- 4:09something
- 4:09that
- 4:10all
- 4:10along
- 4:11the
- 4:11goal
- 4:11line,
- 4:11you
- 4:12know,
- 4:12they
- 4:12put
- 4:12these
- 4:12little
- 4:12paper
- 4:13markers
- 4:13to
- 4:14designate
- 4:15this
- 4:15is
- 4:15the
- 4:15goal
- 4:15line.
- 4:16Right.
- 4:17More
- 4:18commonly,
- 4:18people
- 4:19put
- 4:20tackling
- 4:21dummies
- 4:21at
- 4:21the
- 4:22corner
- 4:22of
- 4:22the
- 4:23sideline
- 4:23in
- 4:23the
- 4:23goal
- 4:24line.
- 4:25They
- 4:25put
- 4:25flags
- 4:26there,
- 4:27you
- 4:27know,
- 4:27pennants
- 4:28on
- 4:28long
- 4:28sticks,
- 4:30you
- 4:30know,
- 4:31different
- 4:31designators
- 4:32like
- 4:32that,
- 4:32which
- 4:33today,
- 4:33you
- 4:34know,
- 4:34that's
- 4:34where
- 4:34the
- 4:34pylon
- 4:35comes
- 4:35from.
- 4:36Right.
- 4:36I
- 4:36mean,
- 4:37that's
- 4:38our
- 4:38pylon
- 4:39is
- 4:39a
- 4:39descendant
- 4:40of
- 4:40that
- 4:40kind
- 4:41of
- 4:41thinking.
- 4:42But
- 4:42probably
- 4:42the
- 4:43most
- 4:43common
- 4:43thing
- 4:43they
- 4:44did
- 4:44was
- 4:45to
- 4:45decorate
- 4:46the
- 4:46end
- 4:46zone.
- 4:47You
- 4:47know,
- 4:47they
- 4:47started
- 4:48doing
- 4:48diagonal
- 4:49stripes
- 4:49in
- 4:49the
- 4:50end
- 4:50zone
- 4:50or,
- 4:51you
- 4:51know,
- 4:51down
- 4:51south,
- 4:52a
- 4:52couple
- 4:52different
- 4:52schools
- 4:53did
- 4:53the,
- 4:54the
- 4:54checkerboards,
- 4:55you
- 4:56know,
- 4:56which
- 4:56are
- 4:56common
- 4:57today.
- 4:57I
- 4:57think
- 4:58Tennessee
- 4:58still
- 4:58does
- 4:59that
- 4:59and
- 4:59there's
- 4:59probably
- 4:59a
- 4:59couple
- 5:00of
- 5:00others.
- 5:01So.
- 5:02But
- 5:02you
- 5:02know,
- 5:02it's
- 5:03one
- 5:03of
- 5:03those
- 5:03things
- 5:03that
- 5:03seems
- 5:04like
- 5:04you,
- 5:04you
- 5:05wouldn't
- 5:05think
- 5:05about
- 5:05it,
- 5:06but,
- 5:06you
- 5:06know,
- 5:06decorated
- 5:07end
- 5:07zones
- 5:09result
- 5:09from
- 5:10the
- 5:101927
- 5:12shift
- 5:12of
- 5:13the
- 5:13goal
- 5:13post
- 5:13to
- 5:14the
- 5:14end
- 5:14line.
- 5:15You
- 5:15know,
- 5:15something
- 5:16you
- 5:16don't
- 5:16even.
- 5:16It,
- 5:17it
- 5:17doesn't
- 5:17make
- 5:17any
- 5:18sense
- 5:18to
- 5:18us
- 5:18now,
- 5:18but
- 5:18it
- 5:19made
- 5:19total
- 5:19sense
- 5:19to
- 5:19them,
- 5:20to
- 5:20them
- 5:20at
- 5:20the
- 5:21time.
- 5:21So
- 5:22anyways,
- 5:24fairly
- 5:24recently
- 5:25I
- 5:25came
- 5:25across
- 5:25a
- 5:26story
- 5:26about
- 5:26A.W.
- 5:27Briggs,
- 5:28who
- 5:28was
- 5:29the
- 5:29coach
- 5:29at
- 5:31Southwestern
- 5:32Normal,
- 5:33which
- 5:34then
- 5:34became
- 5:35Southwest
- 5:35Missouri
- 5:36State
- 5:36and
- 5:36is
- 5:37now
- 5:37Missouri
- 5:37State.
- 5:39And
- 5:40so
- 5:41he,
- 5:41like
- 5:42everybody
- 5:42else,
- 5:42is
- 5:42trying
- 5:42to
- 5:42figure
- 5:43out,
- 5:43how
- 5:43are
- 5:43we
- 5:43going
- 5:43to
- 5:43designate,
- 5:44you
- 5:44know,
- 5:45where
- 5:45the
- 5:45goal
- 5:45line
- 5:45is.
- 5:46And
- 5:46his
- 5:47idea,
- 5:47which
- 5:47he
- 5:48implemented
- 5:48was
- 5:49he
- 5:49created,
- 5:50I
- 5:50think
- 5:50it
- 5:51was
- 5:51seven
- 5:51or
- 5:51eight.
- 5:51But
- 5:51anyways,
- 5:53he
- 5:53set
- 5:53up,
- 5:54he
- 5:54painted
- 5:55stripes
- 5:56running
- 5:56perpendicular
- 5:57to
- 5:57the
- 5:58goal
- 5:58line
- 5:59and
- 5:59the
- 5:59five
- 6:00between
- 6:00the
- 6:00goal
- 6:00line
- 6:01and
- 6:01the
- 6:01five
- 6:01yard
- 6:01line.
- 6:02He
- 6:02had
- 6:02a
- 6:03bunch
- 6:03of
- 6:03lines
- 6:03running
- 6:04perpendicular
- 6:04to,
- 6:05to
- 6:05the
- 6:06yard
- 6:07stripes
- 6:08and
- 6:08the
- 6:08goal
- 6:08line.
- 6:09And
- 6:09you
- 6:10know,
- 6:10he
- 6:10had
- 6:10been
- 6:11around
- 6:11back,
- 6:12you
- 6:12know,
- 6:12when
- 6:12the.
- 6:13We
- 6:13had
- 6:13the
- 6:13checkerboard
- 6:14field.
- 6:14So,
- 6:15you
- 6:15know,
- 6:15that
- 6:16probably,
- 6:16you
- 6:16know,
- 6:16that
- 6:17made
- 6:17sense
- 6:17to
- 6:17him.
- 6:18So
- 6:18he
- 6:19did
- 6:19that
- 6:19at
- 6:19both
- 6:19ends
- 6:19of
- 6:19the
- 6:20field
- 6:20and
- 6:20to
- 6:21my
- 6:21knowledge,
- 6:21no
- 6:21one
- 6:21else
- 6:22did,
- 6:22but
- 6:22that,
- 6:22that
- 6:22was
- 6:23his
- 6:23solution.
- 6:23So
- 6:23this
- 6:24Was
- 6:24in
- 6:24the
- 6:24field
- 6:24of
- 6:24play
- 6:25between
- 6:25the
- 6:25five
- 6:25yard.
- 6:26That's
- 6:26right
- 6:26on
- 6:27the
- 6:27field
- 6:27of
- 6:27play.
- 6:27Yeah.
- 6:27Okay.
- 6:29And
- 6:30so.
- 6:31So
- 6:31that's
- 6:32what
- 6:32he
- 6:32did.
- 6:32And
- 6:33so
- 6:33I'm
- 6:33like,
- 6:33okay,
- 6:34well,
- 6:34as
- 6:35I'm
- 6:35researching
- 6:36A.W.
- 6:37Briggs,
- 6:37I'm
- 6:37trying
- 6:37to
- 6:37figure
- 6:38out,
- 6:38you
- 6:38know,
- 6:39who
- 6:39is
- 6:39this
- 6:39guy?
- 6:39Where
- 6:40does
- 6:40he
- 6:40come
- 6:40from?
- 6:42And
- 6:42it
- 6:42turns
- 6:43out
- 6:43that,
- 6:43you
- 6:43know,
- 6:43I
- 6:43learned
- 6:44that
- 6:44he
- 6:44played,
- 6:45you
- 6:45know,
- 6:45attended
- 6:46and
- 6:46played
- 6:47for
- 6:49what's
- 6:49now
- 6:49Springfield
- 6:50College.
- 6:50But
- 6:51at
- 6:51the
- 6:51time,
- 6:51it
- 6:51was
- 6:51the
- 6:52YMCA
- 6:54training
- 6:54school.
- 6:55So
- 6:55it
- 6:56was
- 6:56the
- 6:56school
- 6:56where,
- 6:56you
- 6:57know,
- 6:57if
- 6:57you
- 6:57wanted
- 6:57to
- 6:57be
- 6:58an
- 6:58athletic
- 6:58director
- 6:59type
- 7:00of
- 7:00person
- 7:00at
- 7:00YMCAs
- 7:01around
- 7:01the
- 7:01country,
- 7:02you
- 7:02went
- 7:02there.
- 7:03And
- 7:03then
- 7:04a
- 7:04lot
- 7:04of
- 7:04them
- 7:04went
- 7:04into
- 7:04coaching
- 7:05and
- 7:05teaching,
- 7:05you
- 7:06know,
- 7:06physical
- 7:06education
- 7:06and
- 7:07stuff.
- 7:09But
- 7:09so
- 7:09he.
- 7:09And
- 7:10so
- 7:11he
- 7:11went
- 7:11there.
- 7:11So
- 7:12then
- 7:12this
- 7:12is.
- 7:12This
- 7:13is
- 7:13the
- 7:13same
- 7:13school
- 7:13where
- 7:14Amos
- 7:14alonzo
- 7:15Stagg
- 7:15and
- 7:15Dr.
- 7:16James
- 7:16Naismith
- 7:17invented
- 7:17basketball.
- 7:18And.
- 7:18Okay,
- 7:19yeah.
- 7:19And
- 7:19they
- 7:19were
- 7:19one
- 7:20of
- 7:20the.
- 7:20One
- 7:20of
- 7:21the
- 7:21early
- 7:21forward
- 7:22passing
- 7:22innovator,
- 7:23innovator
- 7:24schools.
- 7:25They
- 7:25had
- 7:25a
- 7:25guy
- 7:25named
- 7:26McCurdy
- 7:27was
- 7:28their
- 7:28coach,
- 7:29and,
- 7:30you
- 7:30know,
- 7:30he
- 7:30was,
- 7:31you
- 7:31know,
- 7:31throwing.
- 7:32Throwing
- 7:32the
- 7:32pass
- 7:32against
- 7:33Harvard,
- 7:34you
- 7:34know,
- 7:35doing
- 7:35some,
- 7:35you
- 7:35know,
- 7:35crazy
- 7:36stuff.
- 7:37Let's
- 7:37take
- 7:38a
- 7:38break
- 7:38for
- 7:38a
- 7:38moment
- 7:38to
- 7:38tell
- 7:39you
- 7:39about
- 7:39a
- 7:39new
- 7:39product
- 7:40so
- 7:40that
- 7:40you
- 7:41can
- 7:41take
- 7:41and
- 7:41put
- 7:41your
- 7:42football
- 7:42knowledge
- 7:43that
- 7:43we
- 7:43feed
- 7:43you
- 7:43each
- 7:44and
- 7:44every
- 7:44day
- 7:45to
- 7:45the
- 7:45test.
- 7:46It
- 7:46is
- 7:46the
- 7:47pigskin
- 7:47trivia
- 7:48drive
- 7:48on
- 7:49pigskindispatch.com
- 7:50you're
- 7:51the
- 7:51quarterback.
- 7:51You
- 7:51call
- 7:52the
- 7:52shots,
- 7:52choose
- 7:53your
- 7:53play.
- 7:53Grind
- 7:53it
- 7:54out
- 7:54with
- 7:54a
- 7:54run,
- 7:54pick
- 7:55up
- 7:55steady
- 7:55gains
- 7:55on
- 7:56a
- 7:56short
- 7:56pass,
- 7:56or
- 7:56risk
- 7:57it
- 7:57all
- 7:57with
- 7:57a
- 7:57long
- 7:57pass
- 7:58for
- 7:58a
- 7:58massive
- 7:59chunk
- 7:59of
- 7:59yardage.
- 8:00It
- 8:00isn't
- 8:00just
- 8:01a
- 8:01quiz.
- 8:01It's
- 8:01a
- 8:01march
- 8:01for
- 8:02glory.
- 8:02And
- 8:03it's
- 8:03the
- 8:03pigskin
- 8:03Trivia
- 8:04drive.
- 8:04Remember
- 8:05when
- 8:05the
- 8:05huddle's
- 8:06over,
- 8:06when
- 8:06you
- 8:06picked
- 8:07your
- 8:07play.
- 8:08The
- 8:08faster
- 8:08you
- 8:09answer,
- 8:09the
- 8:09more
- 8:09yards
- 8:10you
- 8:10gain.
- 8:10Hesitation
- 8:11is
- 8:11the
- 8:11enemy
- 8:12of
- 8:12the
- 8:12end
- 8:12zone.
- 8:13Keep
- 8:13those
- 8:13chains
- 8:13moving.
- 8:14Cross
- 8:14that
- 8:14yellow
- 8:15line
- 8:15to
- 8:15reset
- 8:15your
- 8:15downs
- 8:16and
- 8:16earn
- 8:16a
- 8:16critical
- 8:17audible.
- 8:17Stuck
- 8:18on
- 8:18a
- 8:18tough
- 8:18defensive
- 8:19look.
- 8:19Use
- 8:20those
- 8:20audibles
- 8:20to
- 8:21strip
- 8:21away
- 8:21two
- 8:21wrong
- 8:22answers
- 8:22and
- 8:22find
- 8:23your
- 8:23open
- 8:23receiver.
- 8:24Watch
- 8:24the
- 8:24play
- 8:24clock.
- 8:25You've
- 8:25got
- 8:25just
- 8:2525
- 8:26seconds
- 8:26to
- 8:26make
- 8:26the
- 8:27read.
- 8:27Take
- 8:27too
- 8:27long
- 8:28and
- 8:28it's
- 8:28a
- 8:28five
- 8:28yard
- 8:29penalty
- 8:29for
- 8:29delay
- 8:30a
- 8:30game.
- 8:30It's
- 8:30game
- 8:31action.
- 8:31In
- 8:31this
- 8:32stadium,
- 8:32your
- 8:32brain
- 8:33is
- 8:33the
- 8:33engine,
- 8:33but
- 8:34the
- 8:34clock
- 8:34is
- 8:34the
- 8:34opponent.
- 8:35The
- 8:35mission
- 8:35is
- 8:36simple.
- 8:36Score
- 8:36as
- 8:36many
- 8:37touchdowns
- 8:37as
- 8:37possible
- 8:38in
- 8:38five
- 8:38minutes.
- 8:38And
- 8:39when
- 8:39the
- 8:39clock
- 8:39hits
- 8:39zero,
- 8:40your
- 8:40score
- 8:41hits
- 8:41the
- 8:41global
- 8:41leaderboard.
- 8:42Are
- 8:43you
- 8:43a
- 8:43bench
- 8:43warmer
- 8:43or
- 8:44a
- 8:44Hall
- 8:44of
- 8:44Famer?
- 8:45Step
- 8:45up
- 8:45to
- 8:45the
- 8:45line.
- 8:46Your
- 8:46drive
- 8:46starts
- 8:47now.
- 8:47On
- 8:47pigskindispatch.com
- 8:49the
- 8:49trivia
- 8:50drive.
- 8:50Don't
- 8:50let
- 8:51your
- 8:51football
- 8:51history
- 8:51knowledge
- 8:52go
- 8:52to
- 8:52waste.
- 8:53Try
- 8:53the
- 8:53pigskin
- 8:54trivia
- 8:54drive
- 8:55on
- 8:55pigskindispatch.com
- 8:56and
- 8:57now
- 8:57let's
- 8:57get
- 8:58back
- 8:58into
- 8:58our
- 8:58program.
- 9:00So,
- 9:00okay,
- 9:01so
- 9:02when
- 9:02I
- 9:02had
- 9:02read
- 9:03that,
- 9:03I
- 9:03was
- 9:03aware
- 9:04that
- 9:04there
- 9:04was
- 9:05a
- 9:05guy
- 9:05named
- 9:05Briggs
- 9:06who
- 9:07had
- 9:07played
- 9:07at
- 9:07ymca,
- 9:09who
- 9:09was
- 9:09the
- 9:09guy
- 9:10who,
- 9:11best
- 9:11as
- 9:11I
- 9:11can
- 9:12tell,
- 9:12invented
- 9:13this,
- 9:14the
- 9:14spiral
- 9:15snap
- 9:15from
- 9:15center.
- 9:16So
- 9:16he
- 9:17played
- 9:17center
- 9:17for
- 9:17them,
- 9:18and
- 9:18he
- 9:18actually
- 9:19arrived
- 9:19there
- 9:19having
- 9:20developed
- 9:20that
- 9:20in
- 9:21high
- 9:21school
- 9:21in
- 9:21Salem,
- 9:22Massachusetts.
- 9:24So
- 9:24I'm
- 9:24like,
- 9:24okay,
- 9:25is
- 9:25there
- 9:25a
- 9:25relationship
- 9:26between
- 9:27A.W.
- 9:28Briggs,
- 9:28the
- 9:29guy
- 9:29at.
- 9:30In
- 9:30Missouri,
- 9:31and
- 9:32H.R.
- 9:33Briggs,
- 9:33the
- 9:34guy
- 9:34of
- 9:34the
- 9:34spiral
- 9:35snap?
- 9:36And
- 9:36so,
- 9:37you
- 9:37know,
- 9:37I
- 9:37end
- 9:37up
- 9:37checking
- 9:38census
- 9:39records
- 9:39and
- 9:39whatnot
- 9:40and
- 9:40find
- 9:41out
- 9:42that
- 9:42AW
- 9:43is
- 9:43the
- 9:43older
- 9:44brother
- 9:44of
- 9:44HR
- 9:45you
- 9:46know,
- 9:47so.
- 9:47And
- 9:48that
- 9:48makes
- 9:48sense,
- 9:48right?
- 9:49I
- 9:49mean.
- 9:49Yeah.
- 9:50To
- 9:50go
- 9:50there.
- 9:51So
- 9:51it's
- 9:52just
- 9:52kind
- 9:52of
- 9:52a
- 9:52neat
- 9:52connection.
- 9:54And
- 9:56so
- 9:56anyways,
- 9:56so
- 9:57then
- 9:57as.
- 9:58Then
- 9:58I
- 9:59start
- 9:59looking
- 9:59into
- 9:59HR
- 10:00A
- 10:00little
- 10:01bit
- 10:01further,
- 10:02and
- 10:02in
- 10:02my
- 10:03searches,
- 10:03I
- 10:04find
- 10:04a
- 10:04picture
- 10:05of
- 10:05him
- 10:06in
- 10:061912.
- 10:08It's
- 10:09actually
- 10:09in
- 10:09the
- 10:10early
- 10:10forward
- 10:10passes,
- 10:11kind
- 10:11of
- 10:11a
- 10:11famous
- 10:11game
- 10:13YMCA
- 10:14plays
- 10:14Carlisle.
- 10:15And
- 10:16they.
- 10:17They
- 10:17ran.
- 10:17YMC
- 10:18ran
- 10:19passes
- 10:20from
- 10:20a
- 10:20spread
- 10:20formation.
- 10:22And,
- 10:22you
- 10:22know,
- 10:22they
- 10:22were
- 10:23throwing
- 10:23the
- 10:23pee
- 10:23all
- 10:23over
- 10:23the.
- 10:24All
- 10:24over
- 10:24the
- 10:25field.
- 10:26But
- 10:26anyways,
- 10:26I
- 10:27found
- 10:27a
- 10:27picture
- 10:28of
- 10:28H.R.
- 10:29Briggs
- 10:31chasing
- 10:31down
- 10:32Jim
- 10:32Thorpe
- 10:34while.
- 10:35When
- 10:35they
- 10:35were
- 10:35playing
- 10:35one
- 10:36another.
- 10:36And
- 10:37so
- 10:37that's.
- 10:37That's.
- 10:38That's
- 10:38the
- 10:38only
- 10:38connection
- 10:39of
- 10:39Jim
- 10:39Thorpe
- 10:40to
- 10:40the
- 10:40rest
- 10:40of
- 10:40the
- 10:40story.
- 10:40But
- 10:41it
- 10:41was
- 10:41just
- 10:42cool
- 10:42to
- 10:42find,
- 10:42you
- 10:43know,
- 10:43so
- 10:44I'm
- 10:44starting
- 10:44in
- 10:44Missouri,
- 10:45and
- 10:45then
- 10:45I
- 10:45find
- 10:45this
- 10:46guy's
- 10:46brother
- 10:46who's
- 10:46playing,
- 10:47and
- 10:47then
- 10:48I
- 10:48find
- 10:48this
- 10:48picture
- 10:48of
- 10:50the
- 10:50younger
- 10:51brother
- 10:51chasing
- 10:51down
- 10:52Jim
- 10:52Thorpe
- 10:53in
- 10:54a
- 10:54game
- 10:54in
- 10:541912.
- 10:55So
- 10:56that's
- 10:56kind
- 10:56of
- 10:56it.
- 10:56But,
- 10:57you
- 10:57know,
- 10:58yeah,
- 10:59the.
- 11:00You
- 11:00know,
- 11:00he
- 11:01passed.
- 11:01Jim
- 11:02Thorpe
- 11:02passed
- 11:02through
- 11:03where
- 11:03AWS
- 11:05lines
- 11:05would
- 11:05have
- 11:05been
- 11:06had
- 11:06the
- 11:07field
- 11:07been
- 11:07lined
- 11:07in
- 11:07with
- 11:08his
- 11:08things.
- 11:09Carlisle
- 11:10won
- 11:10the
- 11:10game.
- 11:10But.
- 11:11But
- 11:11it
- 11:11was.
- 11:11It
- 11:11was.
- 11:12I
- 11:12think
- 11:12it
- 11:12was
- 11:12reasonably
- 11:13close.
- 11:13But
- 11:14anyways,
- 11:15just
- 11:15one
- 11:15of
- 11:15those
- 11:15bizarre
- 11:16things.
- 11:16It's
- 11:16like,
- 11:16you
- 11:17know,
- 11:18when
- 11:18I'm
- 11:18researching
- 11:19This
- 11:19guy
- 11:19in
- 11:191927,
- 11:20who
- 11:20knew
- 11:20that
- 11:21Jim
- 11:21Thorpe
- 11:21would
- 11:22pop
- 11:22into
- 11:22the
- 11:22picture.
- 11:23But.
- 11:23So
- 11:24that's
- 11:24the
- 11:24Seinfeld
- 11:25element
- 11:25to
- 11:25it.
- 11:25Yeah.
- 11:27Thorpe
- 11:27was
- 11:27everywhere,
- 11:28that's
- 11:28for
- 11:28sure.
- 11:29In
- 11:29all
- 11:29sports,
- 11:30he
- 11:30was
- 11:31quite
- 11:31the
- 11:31guy.
- 11:32Wow.
- 11:32I
- 11:32mean,
- 11:33that's
- 11:33an
- 11:33amazing
- 11:33connection
- 11:34that,
- 11:34you
- 11:34know,
- 11:35people
- 11:35probably,
- 11:36you.
- 11:36You
- 11:37might
- 11:37be
- 11:37the
- 11:37only
- 11:37one
- 11:38in
- 11:38the
- 11:38last,
- 11:38you
- 11:39know,
- 11:39century
- 11:39that
- 11:39would
- 11:39even
- 11:40probably
- 11:40remember
- 11:41that
- 11:41or
- 11:41know
- 11:42there
- 11:42was
- 11:42a
- 11:42connection
- 11:42there.
- 11:43And
- 11:43I'm
- 11:43glad
- 11:43that
- 11:44you
- 11:44took
- 11:45the
- 11:45wherewithal
- 11:46to
- 11:46research
- 11:46it
- 11:47and
- 11:47then
- 11:47to
- 11:47share
- 11:47it
- 11:47with
- 11:48the
- 11:48world,
- 11:48you
- 11:48know,
- 11:49not
- 11:49only
- 11:49on
- 11:49your
- 11:49tidbit
- 11:50with
- 11:50us
- 11:50here
- 11:51in
- 11:51this
- 11:51episode
- 11:52tonight,
- 11:52because
- 11:53we
- 11:53would
- 11:53never
- 11:53appreciate
- 11:54what
- 11:54these
- 11:54guys
- 11:55did.
- 11:55You
- 11:55know,
- 11:55the
- 11:56spiral
- 11:56snap.
- 11:56We
- 11:56take
- 11:57it
- 11:57for
- 11:57granted.
- 11:57You
- 11:57know,
- 11:58lines
- 11:58down
- 11:59near
- 11:59the
- 11:59end
- 11:59zone.
- 11:59We
- 12:00take
- 12:00it
- 12:00for
- 12:00granted.
- 12:01You
- 12:01know,
- 12:01you
- 12:01wouldn't
- 12:01have
- 12:02Tennessee's
- 12:03probably
- 12:03checkerboard
- 12:04if
- 12:04it
- 12:04wasn't
- 12:04for
- 12:05some
- 12:05of
- 12:05the
- 12:05innovation
- 12:06or,
- 12:06you
- 12:06know,
- 12:06some
- 12:07of
- 12:07the
- 12:07other
- 12:07famous
- 12:07things
- 12:08that.
- 12:08The
- 12:08commercial
- 12:09where
- 12:09the.
- 12:09The
- 12:10guy
- 12:10misspells
- 12:10chiefs
- 12:11in,
- 12:11the
- 12:11Snickers
- 12:12commercial
- 12:13as
- 12:13a
- 12:13chef,
- 12:15just,
- 12:15you
- 12:16know,
- 12:16just
- 12:16some
- 12:16things
- 12:16we
- 12:17take
- 12:17for
- 12:17granted.
- 12:17But.
- 12:20Part
- 12:20of
- 12:20it
- 12:20was
- 12:21I
- 12:21had.
- 12:23It
- 12:23wasn't
- 12:24too
- 12:24long
- 12:24ago
- 12:24that
- 12:24I
- 12:25published
- 12:25a
- 12:25book
- 12:25about
- 12:26the
- 12:26early
- 12:26forward
- 12:26pass.
- 12:27And
- 12:27so,
- 12:27you
- 12:28know,
- 12:28I
- 12:29spent
- 12:29a
- 12:29lot
- 12:29of
- 12:29time
- 12:30researching
- 12:31the
- 12:31YMCA
- 12:32school
- 12:32because
- 12:33they
- 12:33were
- 12:34pretty
- 12:34early
- 12:34innovators.
- 12:35And
- 12:35actually,
- 12:36the
- 12:36first
- 12:36book
- 12:36I
- 12:37found
- 12:37on,
- 12:38dedicated
- 12:39to
- 12:39the
- 12:39forward
- 12:39pass,
- 12:39is
- 12:40written
- 12:40by
- 12:40the
- 12:41guy
- 12:41who
- 12:41followed
- 12:42this
- 12:42McCurdy
- 12:43as
- 12:43the
- 12:43coach,
- 12:44guy
- 12:44named
- 12:44Elmer
- 12:45Barry.
- 12:45But
- 12:45anyways,
- 12:47you
- 12:47know,
- 12:47I
- 12:48was
- 12:48able
- 12:48to
- 12:48get
- 12:48a
- 12:48copy
- 12:49of
- 12:49that
- 12:49book,
- 12:49and
- 12:49so.
- 12:51But,
- 12:52you
- 12:52know,
- 12:52I.
- 12:52I
- 12:52was
- 12:52aware
- 12:53of
- 12:53Briggs
- 12:53before
- 12:53that
- 12:54even,
- 12:54you
- 12:54know,
- 12:54hr
- 12:55but
- 12:56it's
- 12:56just
- 12:56kind
- 12:56of
- 12:56cool
- 12:57that
- 12:57these
- 12:57two
- 12:57guys
- 12:58end
- 12:58up
- 12:58being
- 12:58brothers
- 12:59and.
- 12:59Yeah,
- 13:00man,
- 13:00that's
- 13:01awesome.
- 13:01Well,
- 13:02as
- 13:02long
- 13:02as
- 13:02you.
- 13:02You
- 13:03brought
- 13:03it
- 13:03up,
- 13:03why
- 13:03don't
- 13:04you
- 13:04tell
- 13:04us
- 13:04a
- 13:04little
- 13:05bit
- 13:05about
- 13:05your
- 13:05book
- 13:05where,
- 13:05you
- 13:06know,
- 13:06where
- 13:06people
- 13:06can
- 13:06get
- 13:06it
- 13:07a
- 13:07little
- 13:07bit
- 13:07more.
- 13:07More
- 13:07about
- 13:08what
- 13:08it's
- 13:08about
- 13:08and
- 13:09give
- 13:09us
- 13:09some
- 13:10props.
- 13:10Yes.
- 13:12Yeah.
- 13:12So,
- 13:13you
- 13:13know,
- 13:13I,
- 13:16you
- 13:16know,
- 13:16I
- 13:16wrote
- 13:17How
- 13:17Football
- 13:17Became
- 13:18Football,
- 13:18and
- 13:18then.
- 13:19Then
- 13:19I
- 13:19decided
- 13:19to
- 13:20kind
- 13:20of
- 13:20pursue,
- 13:21like,
- 13:21more
- 13:21targeted.
- 13:22That
- 13:22was
- 13:22kind
- 13:22of
- 13:23a
- 13:23broad
- 13:23survey
- 13:23of
- 13:23the
- 13:23game.
- 13:24I
- 13:24decided
- 13:25to
- 13:25pursue
- 13:25more
- 13:25targeted
- 13:26topics
- 13:26and
- 13:27just
- 13:27kind
- 13:27of
- 13:27dig
- 13:27into
- 13:28selected
- 13:29things.
- 13:29And
- 13:29so
- 13:30the
- 13:30most
- 13:30recent
- 13:31one
- 13:31is
- 13:34when
- 13:34football
- 13:35came
- 13:35to
- 13:35pass.
- 13:36And
- 13:37it's
- 13:37basically
- 13:38the
- 13:38first
- 13:38decade
- 13:38of
- 13:39forward
- 13:39pass,
- 13:39you
- 13:39know,
- 13:40so
- 13:40it
- 13:40covers
- 13:40a
- 13:40little
- 13:40bit
- 13:40of
- 13:41the
- 13:41beforehand,
- 13:42how
- 13:42it
- 13:43came
- 13:43about,
- 13:44but
- 13:44it
- 13:44really
- 13:44concentrates
- 13:45on,
- 13:47you
- 13:47know,
- 13:47the
- 13:47challenge
- 13:48of.
- 13:50Of
- 13:50formulating
- 13:51how
- 13:52to
- 13:52throw
- 13:52the
- 13:53ball.
- 13:53I
- 13:53mean,
- 13:53they
- 13:54had
- 13:54no
- 13:54idea
- 13:54how
- 13:54to
- 13:55throw
- 13:55a
- 13:55forward
- 13:56pass,
- 13:58how
- 13:58to
- 13:59design
- 13:59plays
- 14:00to
- 14:00do
- 14:01something
- 14:01that
- 14:01had
- 14:01never
- 14:01been
- 14:02done
- 14:02before
- 14:02in
- 14:02football.
- 14:04So
- 14:04there's
- 14:05just
- 14:05a
- 14:05lot
- 14:05of
- 14:05technique
- 14:06and
- 14:06conceptual
- 14:07challenges
- 14:08to
- 14:09making
- 14:09that
- 14:09happen.
- 14:09And
- 14:10then
- 14:10the
- 14:10rules
- 14:10were
- 14:11just,
- 14:11you
- 14:12know,
- 14:12there
- 14:12were
- 14:12a
- 14:12lot
- 14:12of
- 14:13bizarre
- 14:13rules
- 14:13early
- 14:14on
- 14:14that
- 14:14we
- 14:14can't.
- 14:15We
- 14:16can't
- 14:16even
- 14:16imagine,
- 14:17you
- 14:17know,
- 14:17them
- 14:18being
- 14:18in
- 14:18place.
- 14:19And
- 14:19we'll
- 14:20talk
- 14:20about
- 14:20those
- 14:20in
- 14:20some
- 14:20future
- 14:21episodes.
- 14:21But
- 14:22anyways,
- 14:23you
- 14:23know,
- 14:23it's
- 14:23one
- 14:24of
- 14:24those
- 14:24things
- 14:24where
- 14:26it's
- 14:26a,
- 14:26it
- 14:26was
- 14:27really
- 14:27a
- 14:27fun
- 14:27book
- 14:28to,
- 14:29to
- 14:29learn
- 14:30more
- 14:30about
- 14:30the
- 14:30early
- 14:31forward
- 14:31pass.
- 14:31It's
- 14:32a
- 14:32fun
- 14:32book
- 14:32to
- 14:32read
- 14:32and
- 14:32to
- 14:33learn
- 14:33about
- 14:33it,
- 14:33too.
- 14:33So.
- 14:34Well,
- 14:34hopefully
- 14:34the
- 14:35reader,
- 14:35you
- 14:36know,
- 14:36I
- 14:36know
- 14:36the
- 14:36writer
- 14:36enjoyed
- 14:37it,
- 14:37you
- 14:37know,
- 14:38you
- 14:38know,
- 14:38it's
- 14:38up
- 14:38to
- 14:39the
- 14:39reader
- 14:39to
- 14:39tell
- 14:39me
- 14:39whether
- 14:40they
- 14:40enjoyed
- 14:40it
- 14:40or
- 14:40not.
- 14:41But.
- 14:41Yeah.
- 14:41So
- 14:42how
- 14:42do
- 14:42people
- 14:42get
- 14:42their
- 14:43hands
- 14:43on.
- 14:44Yeah.
- 14:44So,
- 14:45you
- 14:45know,
- 14:45all
- 14:45my
- 14:46books
- 14:46are
- 14:46available
- 14:47on,
- 14:47on
- 14:48Amazon
- 14:49and
- 14:49I
- 14:49know
- 14:49there's
- 14:50some
- 14:50people
- 14:50out
- 14:50there
- 14:50who
- 14:50don't
- 14:51like
- 14:51Amazon.
- 14:51So
- 14:51if
- 14:52you
- 14:52don't
- 14:52like
- 14:53Amazon,
- 14:53contact
- 14:54me
- 14:54directly
- 14:54and
- 14:54we
- 14:54can
- 14:55work
- 14:56it
- 14:56out
- 14:56and
- 14:56I
- 14:56can
- 14:56send
- 14:56you
- 14:56copy.
- 14:58All
- 14:58right.
- 14:58Well,
- 14:59Tim,
- 14:59we
- 14:59really
- 15:00appreciate
- 15:00you
- 15:00sharing
- 15:01your
- 15:01knowledge
- 15:01and
- 15:02your
- 15:02resources
- 15:03and
- 15:03your
- 15:03research
- 15:04and
- 15:04explaining,
- 15:05you
- 15:05know,
- 15:06the
- 15:06antiquity
- 15:06of
- 15:07football
- 15:07and
- 15:07how
- 15:07it
- 15:07became
- 15:08the
- 15:08modern
- 15:08game
- 15:09that
- 15:09we
- 15:09love
- 15:09so
- 15:09much.
- 15:09And
- 15:10we
- 15:10love
- 15:10to
- 15:10talk
- 15:10to
- 15:10you
- 15:11again
- 15:11next
- 15:11week.
- 15:11Well,
- 15:11I
- 15:12enjoy
- 15:12the.
- 15:12And
- 15:13appreciate
- 15:13the
- 15:13opportunity
- 15:14to
- 15:14talk
- 15:14about
- 15:14it
- 15:14here.
- 15:16That's
- 15:16all
- 15:16the
- 15:17football
- 15:17history
- 15:17we
- 15:17have
- 15:18today,
- 15:18folks.
- 15:18Join
- 15:18us
- 15:19back
- 15:19tomorrow
- 15:19for
- 15:20more
- 15:20of
- 15:20your
- 15:20football
- 15:21history.
- 15:23We
- 15:23invite
- 15:23you
- 15:23to
- 15:24check
- 15:24out
- 15:24our
- 15:24website,
- 15:25pigskindispatch.com
- 15:27not
- 15:27only
- 15:27to
- 15:27see
- 15:27the
- 15:28daily
- 15:28football
- 15:28history,
- 15:29but
- 15:29to
- 15:29experience
- 15:30positive
- 15:30football
- 15:31with
- 15:31our
- 15:31many
- 15:31articles
- 15:32on
- 15:32the
- 15:32good
- 15:33people
- 15:33of
- 15:33the
- 15:33game
- 15:34as
- 15:34well
- 15:34as
- 15:34our
- 15:35own
- 15:35football
- 15:35comic
- 15:36strip,
- 15:36cleat
- 15:36marks
- 15:37comics,
- 15:37pigskindispatch.com
- 15:39it's
- 15:39also
- 15:40on
- 15:40social
- 15:40media
- 15:40outlets,
- 15:41Facebook,
- 15:41Twitter,
- 15:42Instagram,
- 15:43and
- 15:43don't
- 15:43forget
- 15:44the
- 15:44Big
- 15:44Skin
- 15:44Dispatch
- 15:45YouTube
- 15:45channel
- 15:46to
- 15:46get
- 15:46all
- 15:46of
- 15:47your
- 15:47positive
- 15:47football
- 15:48news
- 15:48and
- 15:48history.
- 15:49Special
- 15:49thanks
- 15:50to
- 15:50the
- 15:50talents
- 15:50of
- 15:51Mike
- 15:51and
- 15:51Gene
- 15:51Monroe,
- 15:52as
- 15:52well
- 15:52as
- 15:52Jason.
- 15:53Neff
- 15:53for
- 15:53letting
- 15:54us
- 15:54use
- 15:54their
- 15:54music
- 15:54during
- 15:55our
- 15:55podcast.
- 15:57This
- 15:57podcast
- 15:58is
- 15:58part
- 15:58of
- 15:58the
- 15:58Sports
- 15:58History
- 15:59Network,
- 15:59your
- 16:00headquarters
- 16:00for
- 16:00the
- 16:00yesteryear
- 16:01of
- 16:01your
- 16:01favorite
- 16:02sport.
- 16:02You
- 16:02can
- 16:02learn
- 16:03more@sportshistorynetwork.com.