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Why This Rainforest Gold Miner Is Defying The Market · Investor Exchange

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  At Investor Exchange, it's time for another podcast with your hosts, David and Brenda.
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  Welcome to The Debate. So today we're dissecting CMMC goldmine holdings.
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  We're looking at their recent performance and a January 19th report from Philip Capital.
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  And the central question is pretty clear.
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  Is CMMC really entering a golden age with more production and big dividends?
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  Or is this a value trap that just looks good because gold prices are high? Exactly.
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  I'll be arguing this is a classic cash-up story. The expansion is working and
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  the money is flowing. And I'm taking the other side.
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  I mean, the cash flow is nice, but I think people are seriously underestimating
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  the physical reality of mining in a tropical rainforest.
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  These delays at the Socor facility, they're a warning sign. Okay,
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  well, let's get into the catalyst then.
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  The Philip Capital Report calls this scale-up, grade-up, cash-up.
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  And, you know, this isn't just marketing speak. They've completed the expansion
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  of their carbon and leach or CIL facility.
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  Right. For anyone who doesn't know, CIL is just the process that gets the gold out of the ore.
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  And they boosted capacity from 500 to 800 tons per day. I mean, that's a 60% jump.
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  That's why the report is holding a buy rating and raise the target price to $1.47.
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  The target price is attractive, I'll give you that. Sure.
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  But that expanded CIL facility needs ore, and high-grade ore at that.
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  The report itself notes that the Socorr underground mine, which is the key to
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  all that future high-grade stuff, was supposed to be ready in 2025.
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  Now we're looking at the first half of 2026, maybe even later.
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  That's a pretty significant timeline slip.
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  Delays happen in mining, you know that. But look at the resilience they're showing right now.
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  Even without that underground mine fully online, operations are running at that
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  full 800 tons per day capacity.
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  They also installed a dual circuit system. It's essentially redundancy,
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  so if one line is down for maintenance, the other just keeps going.
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  They are literally extracting more value from every ton they dig up.
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  Efficiency is fine, but you can't ignore the geography. We're talking about
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  a Malaysian tropical rainforest. The report is very specific.
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  It highlights water accumulation as the problem.
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  This isn't just a spreadsheet error. This is a fight against physics.
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  And if that water problem continues, commercial ops for the underground mine
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  could get pushed all the way to 2027.
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  You're asking investors to wait a very long time for the good stuff.
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  I think the market is getting paid to wait, though.
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  The financials create a huge buffer against those risks.
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  First, the gold price forecast itself is up 13% to U.S. $4,300 an ounce.
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  That lifts the whole net profit forecast for 26 by over 6%.
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  But the real story, the killer metric here, is the dividend.
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  It's gone up seven-fold, from 0.2 cents in 22 to 1.4 cents in 24.
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  A seven-fold increase is impressive, no doubt, but we have to look at the quality of that funding.
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  The forecast leans really heavily on a gold price surge that's 21% above what they thought before.
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  That's a lot of hope pinned on market volatility, not operational stability.
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  And that underground facility isn't free.
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  CapEx is guided up to RM20 million. If the water issues drag,
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  those costs could balloon and squeeze the very cash flow you're towning on for those dividends.
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  But CNMC is incredibly self-sufficient.
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  I mean, look, as of the first half of 2025, they're sitting on a net cash pile of U.S.
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  Dollars $37.3 million. They can fund that CapEx all on their own, no debt needed.
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  This strong balance sheet means they could probably push the dividend payout
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  ratio even higher than the 30% target.
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  A few months of delay in the jungle isn't going to stop that.
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  Cash burns fast when you're fighting geology. Right now they're using grade
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  blending, mixing different ore qualities to keep production smooth.
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  But the report warns about the inherent volatility there.
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  The entire bull case for those future dividends depends on the underground mine
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  coming online to keep that grade high.
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  If 2027 is the real date, the quality of that mix starts to fall,
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  and that cash pile stops growing so fast.
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  I just see a company that is fundamentally stronger today.
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  You have higher production, you have historically high gold prices,
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  and you have a conservative valuation at 11.2 times forward earnings.
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  And that valuation doesn't even consider the minds of life beyond 2024.
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  It's a profitable, cash-generating machine. And I see a company where the execution risk is being ignored.
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  That water accumulation is a real, tangible threat.
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  With full underground operations possibly pushed to 2027, I think investors
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  should probably temper their enthusiasm.
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  The golden age might just be a little further off than it looks.
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  It's a clear tension between immediate cash generation and the unpredictable
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  nature of that rainforest.
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  That's all we have time for today. Thanks for listening.
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  objective summary of recent events and should in no way be interpreted,
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  construed or relied upon by any party as inside information or financial advice.