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105. It's time for the Mythic Legions Dragon! · The Euro Legions Podcast

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  Welcome to episode 105 of the Euro Legions Podcast.
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  We're back again for another one and this week it's Dragon time.
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  How about that? We got some news on the dragon
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  People were predicting early March and seems to have come to
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  pass. So how are you Mal?
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  You all excited for the dragon? I am.
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  I'm very excited. I'm, you know, working out out
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  how much I can get at the back of Rackham's to help fund it.
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  Realizing I'll probably go into more debt if I do that.
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  So what else can I sell? Who cares about that?
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  You know, the way things are going, there might be any debt
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  to be living for anyway. I might be, I might be on the
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  street, but I'll have a cool dragon to hang out with on the
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  street. We might be all on the streets,
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  streets left and rich. How are you?
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  I'm not too bad, thanks. If I get myself off mute, yeah.
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  Can I just say at the start though, that's a dragon.
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  I love the horsemen one, but that's.
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  A dragon? How did the rugby go on
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  Saturday? We didn't lose by 50 points,
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  which for us is true. You have really.
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  You're you're, you're Ireland. You're Ireland footballer, like
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  basically levelled moral victories, yeah.
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  Yeah, you guys dropped like half your team before the match,
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  which was lovely. Then you had somebody sent off
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  for 20 minutes, so that helped. Me lucky it was only 20 minutes.
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  It should have been no match how that wasn't a.
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  That really wasn't no idea, but yeah.
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  But yeah, apart from that, all good.
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  Awesome I I listened to an amazing podcast on Sunday.
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  Do you ever listen to Desert Island Discs on BBC?
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  Is it Radio 4 maybe? No, I'm not.
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  Old and they often have really cool people.
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  Sometimes it's like people I don't know and they can be good,
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  but I don't often listen to those that might be like a
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  surgeon at some hospital or whatever, you know?
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  But this week they had Nick Cave, the singer, and he is
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  awesome. I love Nick Cave but yeah the
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  interview was amazing. He actually lost his two of his
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  kids have died. One of them fell off a Cliff in
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  Brighton and the other one, I can't remember exactly what it
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  was, but he died in his early 30s possibly.
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  I don't, I don't want to. Maybe it was something in along
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  that lines and Nick Cave was a heroin addict for 20 years.
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  Apparently he managed to pack it in in 1999 when he met his
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  current wife, but just in a seriously interesting guy and he
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  he goes to, so he's obviously he's songwriter and he said he
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  goes to work every day. He spends 8 hours in front of
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  his computer slash typewriter, whatever he puts on a suit and
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  everything. He does it like every single
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  day. And when he was on the heroin
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  and stuff, he said sometimes he he'd wake up with like, the keys
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  of the typewriter embedded in his forehead, you know?
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  But yeah, so I've been listening to a bunch of his music then
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  during the week as I've been driving around to do my taxi
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  job. What's your favorite Nick Cave
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  song? I've got 2 that I like and
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  that's probably the only tool I really know.
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  I think my I think my favorite album that used to be the double
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  album. He had The Larva Orifice and
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  Avatar Blues. But I think my favorite album
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  knows No more Shall We Part. And I think appropriate for
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  these times. Darker with the day.
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  It's probably my favorite song. Yeah.
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  And you? Well as I say, I only know 2
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  songs and that I really really like them and and it's red right
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  hand. Which, Oh yeah, that's a
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  classic. Yeah, that's Squeaky Blinders
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  theme tune, isn't it? Yes, it well, I feel yes it is,
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  but I first heard it on the Scream soundtrack way back when.
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  And then the other really cool one is I've had to just look it
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  up, the one with Kylie, which is where the wild roses grow.
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  Yes, that's a great song. The best Kylie.
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  Song. That's a good, that's a good
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  album as well. There's a brilliant song on that
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  called Stagger Lee. And the lyrics are not.
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  Not safe for, yeah, not safe for this podcast anyway.
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  I think I've. Heard about sodomy and stuff
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  like that. Yeah, I think I've heard that
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  done by someone else, but yeah, yeah.
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  And, and there's also a brilliant song and that Adam was
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  talking about called As We Came Along This Road.
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  And it's it's an absolute masterpiece.
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  So yeah, definitely check, check him out.
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  If you have, do you want to know my one Nick Cave fact?
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  You met him on street in Napoleon.
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  He. He wrote a script for Gladiator
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  2 the movie. Oh, did he?
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  Not the one that actually got made, but he wrote an original
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  script which they very, very nearly put into production,
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  which which had Russell Crowe in it again, and his character went
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  down to the underworld and had to deal with people down there
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  sort of thing. So yeah.
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  Yeah, because he's a super imaginative guy.
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  Actually saw it was the last concert I went to before the
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  COVID stuff. So the year before I saw him and
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  he was doing the Skeleton Tree album and I think they played
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  that. This is a really good album.
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  They played that kind of back to front and our front to back,
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  sorry. And then then a couple of the
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  hits. But he's like spot in his early
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  60s. And he was like, you know,
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  pretty, pretty charismatic on stage.
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  There was many a lady in the crowd that would have just done
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  whatever, you know? John, when you say many a lady,
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  was that you? You could have been me too.
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  Yeah, yeah. Wouldn't be that way inclined.
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  But, you know, it, it it, I was getting a bit wrapped up in the
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  whole thing. Yeah.
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  So anyway, there's your it's, you know, sometimes it's good to
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  have a kind of an artistic kind of, how would you say kind of a
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  escape, you know, just kind of get deep into this stuff that
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  actually is, you know, important really.
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  But you know, it's not going to make a huge difference to your
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  day-to-day life. But yeah, can can just be
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  escaped from the. Yeah, I think especially without
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  being too miserable in these times, I think escapism is
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  required. That's why we like the action
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  figures and the things we do in that sense, so.
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  That's because of all the people moaning about the price of the
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  dragon. I meant more bigger issues than
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  that. Well, like Gaza.
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  Yeah, let's not. Yeah, yeah, let's not get into
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  it too. Oh, man, yeah, yeah, there's
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  some farcical stuff happening. I mean, farcical but real.
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  So that's the thing about it. Yeah, well, I found myself
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  producing a list of BIOS I still need to write for my custom
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  figures earlier. So that's my escapism sorted.
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  Got a list of characters I need to write for so.
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  I did a little. I did a little story recording
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  of something. I wrote a little short story
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  during the week. Yeah, I was able to do it
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  reasonably quickly because I just did it myself because you
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  boys were hard at work and you know, all that kind of stuff.
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  But yeah, it's about 6 minutes. I put it on our Patreon.
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  Didn't get much feedback from the Patreon, but Joe without
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  this liked it, that's for sure. And you boys didn't date it, so
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  it was good. We put some sound design in it,
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  and that's really what I wanted to do.
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  It was more like a vehicle for being able to do a little sound
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  design story. Yeah.
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  And it's fun. I have a couple more.
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  I just need to refine them. And, you know, sometimes they
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  change the the description so I can actually do some stuff with
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  the descriptions, you know? Yeah.
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  Anyway, on to the main event, maybe.
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  What's the score in the football?
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  No, the dragon. The order of beta arises.
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  So that was interesting. We actually got the order of
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  beta on the on the website. Did you see that?
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  I didn't see that. There you go.
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  It's interesting because Bill Duclair, Bill Dronowski started
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  a bit of a conversation about how he'd originally thought
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  that. I forget what the other one is,
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  was a sect of Azarius. Yeah, they wouldn't thought the
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  sect of Azarius was perhaps a part of the order of Bayothere,
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  and I was exactly the same. But then of course, actually,
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  no, because the dragon symbol on the sect of Azarius is not the
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  same as the dragon symbol for Bayothere.
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  So Azarius must be one of the other.
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  Well, potentially is one of the other Dragons and then they've
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  put and then, you know, it's Jeremy who does it, isn't he?
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  I suspect has put the Order of Bay affair on there on the
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  website. So yeah, sort of confirming.
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  Tell me I have to spend another £550 after this one.
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  Probably, but I suspect it will be in a couple of years time.
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  I don't think they'll rush to do it.
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  We'll see. But yeah, should we read the the
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  the blurb there? Do you want to read it?
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  Yeah. Unwaveringly loyal to Great
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  Green Dragon Bay Athir, the order that bears his name is
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  comprised of a military force whose origins stretch back to
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  the earliest days of mythos. Charge.
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  Charge of protecting the resting peace place of the Pillar of the
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  West and also furthering his commands during his long
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  slumber. The Order of Bay Athir works
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  alongside delegations from the other 4 pillars to ensure that
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  the peace of the world is maintained and the will of these
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  great and ancient beings is enforced.
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  So a little military force there.
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  So that could be interesting. That could be something.
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  Do you think rich guns in with us?
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  No, no, Eric's always said he wouldn't be guns, so.
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  No, of course. Yeah, it's.
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  But yeah, it gives, it gives us scope for leading build type
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  figures, strategies, yeah. So it's it's so the Dragon
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  crowdfunding obviously is happening.
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  I suppose we should mention 7th of March.
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  It's kicking off for a month. So we can assume that's until
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  7th of April. But they've just said for a
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  month. They haven't specified a lot of
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  details to come. But I think it's still it's a
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  good jumping off point for us to talk about it, $550 base price
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  plus shipping plus taxes. And that doesn't include the
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  accessory pack, which would be an extra pack that costs a
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  certain amount of money. I don't know the price of that.
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  It's not been announced yet. That would be for the flames to
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  come out of the Dragon's mouth. That's an extra head as well for
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  the dragon because that's a different head that comes with
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  the tongue as well. So that's basically an open
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  mouth dragon head, extra wings and a neck piece as well to make
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  the dragon kind of longer. So I don't think if you think
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  about all those pieces, you're probably, what would you say
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  well over 100, maybe more. Probably I wouldn't do if
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  they'll do it as you could pick if you want all of them, Yeah,
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  or you know, there'll be packs of small, let's say I think the
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  wings. I think they're trying to keep
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  it fairly simple though in terms of the shipping.
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  So I think it'll be just either you don't you have it with the
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  accessory pack or not. Oh no.
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  I think in my head with the fact that the horsemen do try and
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  generally do try and keep the price now I think about 100, I'd
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  imagine the yeah. Yeah, a lot of plastic though,
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  so let's. See.
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  But yeah, but yeah, maybe 1/4 of the figures though, or not a
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  quarter, 1/5 of the price of the figure, 5th, just under a fifth,
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  Yeah, I don't know. I'll add it on to the Yeah, I'm,
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  I'm treating it like I'm fight. I've got this much money to find
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  now and I'll worry about the shipping and all that when it
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  happens. That's how I'm going to treat
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  it. Yeah.
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  And it's a minimum, minimum order of 2000.
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  So that would be basically $1.1 million of crowdfunding.
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  So if you think of a Kickstarter sort of gone over that amount of
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  money and probably Spawn is a good one, maybe that went over
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  that. That was probably cheaper base
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  price thing, but the way he did that as well probably ended up
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  that you had to buy 3 versions of Spawn to kind of get
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  everything and it'd been a lot of money anyway in the end.
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  And this guy has 50 points of articulation, so we're talking
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  probably toes and clothes and stuff here as well as the big
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  bits. Yeah, sorry.
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  When you say big bits, it's like, what are they going to be
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  articulating? John?
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  Jesus. The arms, yeah.
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  No Dragon Wang. The tail.
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  Here we go. Yeah.
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  Dragon Wang. First mention of it, second
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  mention of it. Just there.
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  Ever second, even though they have one.
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  Ever giving a different meaning to Bayer theorizes.
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  So so what's your? Ah yes, Mal.
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  What's your kind of first initial thoughts on this, Rich?
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  I wish it was cheaper of. Course, I think we can.
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  Take my first yeah, I can totally understand why it is the
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  price is and they're probably not making that much money on it
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  at all because they are very good to their fans, though.
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  I I love, I love the fact the stretch goals.
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  I I think without stretch goals I'd have been struggling a
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  little bit to justify the price, but I think if we get 3 or 4
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  figures stretch goals, we should hit.
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  I think they'll probably do the stretch goals at reasonable
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  numbers above 2000, so we should hit them then.
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  That to me, yeah, that'll justify it.
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  So yeah, it's the stretch goals will include actual figures, so
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  might not be only figures, but will include figures.
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  And if we see from the bio there of the faction, they're military
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  force. So I guess different type of
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  warriors in the in the dragon. So maybe well, which one of you
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  was saying, maybe one of kind of a similar to Rhaegar type
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  character that. Was me.
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  Yeah. So maybe not another version of
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  Rhaegar, but maybe like someone's that's kind of, you
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  know, based on some. Version of it as it is now
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  rather than yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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  It'd be interesting for me whether they have any new parts
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  with the stretch goal figures, because in theory the the
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  easiest way to do it would be just to reuse the parts they've
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  got. But then this is a different
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  continent outside of mythos, so if.
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  That's the case the Mythos Pillar, isn't he?
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  No, he's none of the pillars of Mythos because that's why they
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  he flew over Mythos and was confused.
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  He's like what the Hell's that? That wasn't there last time I
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  was flying so it so in theory they wouldn't have the same
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  armour. So now I don't expect head to
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  tone you figure, but we've got to be, you know, you can't just
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  Chuck Gorgo's helmet on and go, yeah, they wear that helmet too.
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  He's like, well hang on a minute, they're on a different
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  continent. That doesn't make sense.
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  So I'll be intrigued how they do that.
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  But certainly it's some sort of army builder type would make
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  sense. Yeah, I think it would be very
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  cool to have the newly tooled parts and maybe these are
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  figures that they would plan down the line anyway at some
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  point, assuming this is successful, but wasn't didn't
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  maybe meet some stretch goals. There might be some figures that
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  they wouldn't reveal a stretch goals until they're reached, you
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  know, because that's how they did it in Kickstarter.
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  I mean, they had a certain, OK, they had a certain first couple
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  of stretch goals maybe announced.
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  And then if it's super successful, there's, you know,
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  there's more stuff that kind of comes on on track.
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  I think I saw Jeremy say that they'd reveal everything at the
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  start. OK, so they're going to.
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  But what I'm wondering. I think that's a good idea
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  though, because then people see what they could get potentially
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  and are more likely to order early than if they go, well,
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  this is, come on, this is the trick.
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  It's the thing that drives me mad is like, oh, but but if you,
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  if you, if you give us more money, you might get this thing.
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  We're not going to tell you until we get the money, you
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  know, and. It's like OK.
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  Just tell everyone upfront what they can get if they give them
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  money and you'll get more people giving you money.
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  Yeah, I guess it'll depend when when the horsemen actually take
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  the money too. So if they take it straight away
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  like they tend to, then you've got to tell people really, you
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  can't just go actually, we're not going to tell you that's
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  true. But I'm thinking if they do,
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  they've got to keep the costs down somehow with stretch goals.
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  So you can't charge 550 and then, you know, spend a fortune
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  on three or four figures to go with it.
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  So I'm wondering whether they the ID and and you'll also have
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  people moan saying well I couldn't afford the Dragons,
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  therefore I've missed out on those figures and those
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  characters and it's totally unfair, yadda yadda yadda.
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  Isn't it for buying the dragon? There it is.
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  So what I'm thinking is they'll do these figures, but they'll re
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  release the same character or the same type of soldier further
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  down the line, but we just with a little tweak.
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  So it's like, yeah, if you order the dragon, you've got the one
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  with this helmet. And then a year and a half later
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  they'll drop the same faction again and go, yeah.
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  And there's the the more bog standard one that everyone can
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  get one of those as well. Yeah, I think a totally
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  different paint deco would be, I wouldn't say a little tweak.
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  You know, I'm really, really do a.
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  Sort of Algard on them. Yeah.
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  Or gold dwarfs, like loads of them.
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  Yeah, I mean, then you get, then you get, then you get all the
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  dwarf guys. Yeah, he'll sell, sell 2000 to
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  Anthony. It's like, yeah, I'm, I'm half
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  expecting, but like within a week of Anthony owning the
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  dragon, it'll be a foot shorter so.
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  And and what about like, OK, so I want to get in and support
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  this, you know, on the if I'd say I'm definitely going to get
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  it right. So and not going to worry about
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  all the stuff like shipping and taxes and all that kind of
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  stuff. They're just facts.
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  And we kind of knew this anyway when it was revealed.
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  And I think I had a good idea from just chatting to people at
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  Legions come that probably 500 was in or around the price.
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  So I wasn't expecting less than 500 anyway.
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  And it's 5:50, so OK, fine. If that's what it's needs to
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  make it work, how do I, how do I maybe change my order if I
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  decide, OK, I'm just going to back the dragon so that it's one
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  on to the 2000, you know, and we get up to the 2000 quickly.
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  And then I see that the stretch goals are so good and they've
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  reached them all. Do I have to put in another
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  order then to do get us a second one if I want those figures?
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  And then maybe, you know, sell the dragon and keep each figure
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  or sell the figures and have two Dragons, you know, that kind of
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  thing. How does that work?
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  I'm not saying that that's what I do, but you know, that's a
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  kind of a Kickstarter E thing where as things are kind of
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  reached, you can add more money to it.
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  So I wonder if they're going to be that sort of an element to it
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  or is it really like a pre-order?
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  I mean, that hasn't been revealed yet, but I think the
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  Kickstarter style thing is good, although bad for the companies
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  when people can just cancel quite easily once they've put in
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  their order. So I.
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  Think it's tricky from the perspective of how much shipping
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  and tax you're going to pay anyway as an international
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  customer. It might be different for for
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  people in the US, I don't think you're going to get any more
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  from being able to add to your order than you are from just
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  putting a second order in or you know, I don't.
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  I think you know, because the shipping they're going to have
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  to charge you basically the price of shipping two of them,
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  aren't they? So you know, it's going to be in
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  a big box. So it's how they it's intro.
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  It'll be interesting how they ship the other stuff, whether
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  it'll all be in the dragon box. I suppose it probably will when
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  you come to think of it. Yeah, I think that's their their
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  plan is to from I saw one comment from Jeremy where their
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  plan is to basically have like a like do it like the Orleans.
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  Yeah, yeah. So basically everything comes to
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  the factory box boxed with everything and and I suppose
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  they'll have two versions. They'll have one with the
• 21:39
  accessory packs and one without. So there you go.
• 21:42
  So you might as well put a second order in because you'll
• 21:45
  be paying the same in shipping again.
• 21:47
  Maybe the one or two or three or four.
• 21:50
  Yeah, I can't see them. Having flat rate shipping on
• 21:54
  this $10 flat rate shipping for the.
• 21:56
  US. That's true.
• 21:58
  So. And then we did have some chat
• 22:02
  in our Discord and on the European group about why they
• 22:05
  didn't try and team up with say 1 retailer, be it in Europe or I
• 22:13
  mean, you don't want them to team up with the one in UK
• 22:15
  because they'll just put the price.
• 22:21
  But they, and I have to take the Four Horsemen at their word
• 22:26
  here. But they said that they
• 22:27
  investigated all possibilities and they decided or realised
• 22:31
  that even if they did team up with somebody that this would be
• 22:35
  still the best deal that you would get is to order.
• 22:39
  Direct, I can believe it because what, what does that other
• 22:42
  company get out of it? If they're just acting as the
• 22:45
  middle man, they'd want their bit on top, wouldn't they?
• 22:48
  So. They would.
• 22:49
  And that makes me think again, that the horsemen aren't
• 22:51
  actually making that much money on each of these, you know,
• 22:55
  because because they're going to go to the retailer and go, well,
• 22:57
  it's literally costing us, I don't know, $450 to make this
• 23:01
  each one. You know, we'd have to sell it
• 23:04
  to you for that. We can't sell it to you at a
• 23:06
  loss. So the retailers are going to
• 23:07
  like, well I'm not going to buy it unless I can make double that
• 23:10
  probably and almost need to get in mind quid.
• 23:12
  So it's just not going to be worth it.
• 23:14
  Yeah. So the horsemen would have to go
• 23:16
  to the retailer and say, OK, we can give you them for, OK, let's
• 23:19
  just say half the the price that we're charging, OK?
• 23:23
  So let's say 250 even, OK, just to make it a round Number.
• 23:29
  But their margin is not that their margin is maybe 150 and
• 23:35
  that's not going to make up the difference in tax or anything
• 23:37
  like that or shipping. So you're still probably going
• 23:42
  to be 700 without shipping from say retailer here, maybe 800,
• 23:49
  maybe 900. I don't know because they'll
• 23:52
  still have they'll have to pay the import from China.
• 23:56
  So, you know, I don't know how that works, but also some people
• 24:03
  live in certain people live in countries where it is more
• 24:06
  complicated to order from the US because the customs people tend
• 24:10
  to be more difficult in those countries like Germany, for
• 24:13
  example, if you, it depends what shipping service you use, but
• 24:17
  you know, Germany can be tricky sometimes Spain or Italy can be
• 24:21
  tricky with custom stuff. So of course those people are
• 24:28
  just in those countries would just like to, to have an option
• 24:31
  to order it in that country, even if it does cost the same.
• 24:34
  So say, say if someone's saying it's going to be 900 after
• 24:38
  shipping and taxes and everything, they'd rather give
• 24:41
  that 900 locally and you know, let the other person, the
• 24:45
  retailer take all that hassle on for, for that money.
• 24:49
  But I just don't think there's enough customers in EU to maybe
• 24:58
  soak that up or whatever. And even if there is any, is
• 25:03
  that really the horseman's problem?
• 25:05
  I know they try and the horsemen are looking purely on the price
• 25:07
  side of it and they're saying that, OK, we can't deliver it
• 25:11
  locally to you in as kind of, you know, as cheap as, you know,
• 25:19
  cheaper. So so you might as well order
• 25:21
  direct from us. We'll handle it.
• 25:23
  We you know, we'll do everything as best we can.
• 25:25
  And people maybe don't realize that horsemen are small like
• 25:27
  Mattel doesn't do this. Mattel messes up attorney
• 25:30
  apparently was massive problem for this side of the world in
• 25:34
  terms of importing and money. And so I can't imagine people
• 25:41
  understand how how much smaller the horsemen, it's like 15
• 25:46
  people and not all of them work on that side of it, you know,
• 25:50
  you know, approximately. But it's so few people that I
• 25:54
  think it's just a difficult thing.
• 25:58
  I think they should. Their real focus is to try and
• 26:01
  get this made because they don't even know if they'll get the
• 26:03
  2000 orders yet. We all say, Oh yeah, they will.
• 26:06
  And there's poles up in the cabal saying how many would
• 26:08
  orders would they get? You know, will they get 5000?
• 26:11
  Maybe they will. And then it'll go gangbusters.
• 26:13
  And maybe at that point they can look and say, OK, now we can
• 26:16
  maybe hook up with somebody in the EU and anyone that has their
• 26:21
  order with direct with us, you can reroute it to that person.
• 26:25
  But that's a lot of hassle too. Oh, yeah.
• 26:29
  So I don't know. I think if you want to just have
• 26:33
  to suck up all the hassle and the money, and that's, I'm not
• 26:39
  saying that that's like that sounds like we're being
• 26:42
  apologetic for, for the situation, but it is just, it's
• 26:45
  a ridiculous thing that they're doing.
• 26:47
  You know, it's so easy for them to make more money, to make a
• 26:52
  wave of figures for $550, I'm pretty sure.
• 26:55
  Yeah, no, definitely. Yeah.
• 26:58
  But this will be a thing that will last for for so long in
• 27:02
  terms of like they were the ones that made that massive dragon,
• 27:05
  you know, and for that line and I.
• 27:06
  Think a lot of people have to remember is the minute that
• 27:08
  crowdfunding ends, this shoots up in value.
• 27:12
  Oh yeah. So what you are paying is
• 27:14
  already less than it's worth the minute that ends so.
• 27:18
  If you want to you, you, this is the time to get it.
• 27:22
  If you can afford it. I wouldn't wait past that.
• 27:26
  If you're not sure about it and you can't, you know, and also,
• 27:32
  you know, on the financial side, it's not, it's a bit dicey.
• 27:35
  In terms of ordering it, then I wouldn't order it.
• 27:40
  If you're loaded, I'd order 4 minimum, but you know, maybe
• 27:45
  maybe more than 4 might start bringing into some sort of a
• 27:49
  commercial enterprise and. For win the lottery, there'll be
• 27:53
  signs lots of. Dragons.
• 27:57
  Do you choose them as garden ornaments outside?
• 27:59
  There's might be rains on them. That's fine.
• 28:01
  Yeah, you're. Using the boxes as wallpaper.
• 28:08
  Getting all the value out of them again.
• 28:13
  So yeah, that's that's the thing.
• 28:15
  What about these chart figures? Do you know is there any value
• 28:19
  in getting them or do you want different type of figures?
• 28:22
  I wouldn't mind if one of the figures, one of the add on like
• 28:26
  the additional figures was a charred version of something.
• 28:29
  But I hope that's not. I don't.
• 28:31
  I don't believe for a minute that'll be all the add-ons
• 28:34
  because it's not a lot of paint apps and not it's a very diorama
• 28:39
  focused thing isn't it? Not an action figure.
• 28:42
  I know. I'm pretty sure they did these
• 28:44
  quickly for the Dio and it's basically sprayed, you know,
• 28:47
  sprayed that colour. That's cool, but I think if
• 28:50
  there were to release this as a figure, might have a little bit
• 28:53
  more subtlety, like, you know, like a lot more like lava.
• 28:57
  So, you know, kind of OK, charred, but also like with Reds
• 28:59
  and blacks and kind of. Still a very dry piece.
• 29:02
  Then they're not really, Yeah. It is but if, but you know if
• 29:06
  they did a skeleton legion builder.
• 29:08
  That'd be quite cool. I wouldn't mind that.
• 29:10
  Yeah, yeah. As long as the pointy fingers
• 29:15
  don't you breathe fire on me. Exactly that.
• 29:21
  Exactly that. You.
• 29:23
  You. I knew it.
• 29:25
  I, I don't know, I, I hope they don't.
• 29:29
  I'll agree with Mal on that. I think they might just because
• 29:32
  of the, the buzz that people were going, Oh yeah, what about
• 29:35
  this, what about this? But I think if they were to do
• 29:37
  like a set on fire figure, it would make sense in a later
• 29:39
  wave. You know, you got maybe two of
• 29:42
  the sects fall out with each other or something, and then
• 29:45
  there's one of the Dragons gets involved there.
• 29:47
  You've got the burnt figure that fits in better that way rather
• 29:50
  than just as a an extra bit here.
• 29:52
  Because the end of the day, if you don't buy the fire, then
• 29:55
  you'd have a burnt figure game. Well, the Dragon's flame's gone
• 29:58
  out now, but hey, it did burn him.
• 30:00
  There he is. And also even you can spray
• 30:04
  paint a figure black. Exactly.
• 30:07
  I spray painted third party parts.
• 30:10
  Done nothing with almost all of them, but I've spray painted
• 30:13
  them. Yeah, maybe a dragon test shot
• 30:18
  as as as a packing the stretch call.
• 30:24
  I'm just ahead, just ahead. Yeah.
• 30:26
  Did you see the pictures? The way Jeremy was hugging that
• 30:28
  test shot? That's the name of him.
• 30:30
  That's never going to anybody else.
• 30:32
  That's his baby. What does Nate Birch call it?
• 30:34
  Butter Dragon or. Dragon.
• 30:38
  Because of the colour of the, the plastic test shot.
• 30:41
  Yeah. And that was plastic.
• 30:43
  So that I, I was there when he was when they were messing
• 30:46
  around with that. And that does it.
• 30:48
  If anyone doesn't know, it has the ratchets in the wings and
• 30:51
  the arms and stuff. So it's not.
• 30:52
  Going to be so satisfying here in that ratchet in those wings.
• 30:56
  I know some people don't like it.
• 30:57
  I love it. It sounds so.
• 30:58
  Cool offer a piece that heavy has to have that kind of stuff.
• 31:02
  Really, that's one of the best things about Masterpiece
• 31:04
  Transformers is that you start moving the arms and legs.
• 31:08
  It's like, yeah, you need to be aware of it at first, because
• 31:10
  otherwise you'd think you're breaking it.
• 31:12
  Yeah, yeah. Oh, I guarantee.
• 31:15
  Yeah, they'll do it. And then somebody will post on
• 31:17
  the Cabal the day after receiving the dragon.
• 31:18
  Go. Mine's broken.
• 31:19
  It's making a noise like shut up.
• 31:23
  Oh, he's just so beautiful. Look at him.
• 31:25
  He's lush. Yeah, lush.
• 31:29
  Lush. Yeah.
• 31:32
  So I've got to find the money for him.
• 31:33
  That's it's that simple. I'd regret.
• 31:35
  I'd regret. Yeah.
• 31:35
  What what are we selling to to get the dragon I'm.
• 31:38
  Going to say kidneys, Kidney. Yeah, kidney, liver 1 slightly
• 31:44
  used, half a liver we can get rid of.
• 31:48
  Her she doesn't realise yet, but I'm going to be selling all
• 31:49
  Holly's toys. She just, she just won't know.
• 31:53
  Have you seen So So no. Well, I got my Necronominus all
• 31:58
  in this week and I am bathing in the smell of Chinese plastic and
• 32:02
  paint right now. It's it really makes me laugh
• 32:05
  because you think what you know how everyone went on about
• 32:10
  embryo and gyro because of the smell, that smell that's all
• 32:14
  over Necronominus is wave and over a couple of the.
• 32:18
  But it's different. I don't know, OK, I haven't
• 32:20
  opened my embryo yet. I might do that now, but I do
• 32:25
  think the translucent plastic has a different smell.
• 32:27
  No, it's that. Yeah, despite.
• 32:29
  Smell that you can smell on enviro.
• 32:32
  Yeah, Despite that smell being so well known, people still
• 32:34
  didn't pick up on it. The obvious clue about it in our
• 32:36
  Valentine's episode a couple of weeks ago.
• 32:41
  True, That's true. Difficult to understand.
• 32:44
  Well, you know, not not as many people watched or listened to
• 32:47
  that episode. So I didn't say that there's
• 32:49
  there's not as not as much in love in mythos.
• 32:53
  I I think all our listeners and viewers should tell their
• 32:55
  friends if they never watch it normally, just subscribe, watch
• 32:59
  that episode. There's fun, there's one of my.
• 33:02
  Favorites, but maybe I I think we found this out before I I am
• 33:06
  I'm no way have a clue what actually people like listening
• 33:10
  to when it comes to it, because some of the episodes I think
• 33:13
  were were not great people loved.
• 33:16
  So I have no clue. I know what I like, I suppose.
• 33:23
  Yeah. But yeah, I mean, we will do an
• 33:26
  Economist review. I think at this point, Rich,
• 33:28
  it's we might as well wait. Everyone else has done there, so
• 33:30
  we might as well wait till we get you get yours and we can
• 33:32
  have. Yeah, I've, I've started a
• 33:35
  little, a little note on my phone as I've been opening the
• 33:39
  figures. Just little small little details
• 33:41
  I've picked up trying to a couple of a little annoying
• 33:46
  things as well, just to, you know, just to be balanced and
• 33:51
  not to be too, not to be too in love with everything all the
• 33:55
  time. Even though they're grey, I mean
• 33:57
  overall grey, you know, still the face plates are annoying.
• 34:03
  But I mean, I understand why there are different plugs
• 34:05
  because they're different shapes, you know, the helmets
• 34:08
  are slightly different size. So yeah, if they were the same
• 34:11
  plugs, people would be plugging them in and they'd look
• 34:14
  ridiculous. But still, yeah, it's it's
• 34:17
  annoying to have a skull face plate and you can't put it into
• 34:20
  Gideon's mask because that's what I really want to do.
• 34:23
  You can, you just have to heat up and smash it about you.
• 34:26
  No, no, no. It's like these are two little
• 34:28
  circular pegs and his is like a nail shape.
• 34:32
  Again, with the heating and smashing you apply enough heat
• 34:35
  and pressure it'll go in. And hot glue.
• 34:39
  Yeah. OK, well why don't you try that
• 34:43
  when you get your OK. Fair enough.
• 34:45
  Well I think the retailer released that is the 10th is it
• 34:48
  which is a Monday. So presuming Emporium, they
• 34:51
  annoyingly they don't do what some of the I know some of the
• 34:53
  American ones do and they send it out so it arrives on the
• 34:56
  release date. Oh, that would be sweet.
• 34:58
  They don't tend to do that, but hopefully.
• 34:59
  But the amount they charge, you think they would?
• 35:01
  Yeah. We should get on Wednesday so.
• 35:03
  White Glove Service. Yeah, maybe if we record on the
• 35:06
  Thursday that week potentially. Oh, that'd be great for me.
• 35:09
  I'll just won't sleep that Thursday night, then on the
• 35:12
  calendar, sleep for 12 hours on Wednesday that week.
• 35:18
  Sure, why not? Anything for our listeners.
• 35:21
  And you Rich, of course. Thank you, John.
• 35:25
  But yeah, I'm really enjoying opening them up and quite a
• 35:30
  solid wave. I haven't managed to break them
• 35:32
  so. Funnily enough that.
• 35:35
  We've been used hair dryer at all.
• 35:36
  Oh. Oh, I can't.
• 35:38
  The odd piece, but that was only you know.
• 35:41
  But any normal stuff like legs and stuff?
• 35:43
  Yeah, my Sir Jack heated him up a little bit and he moves
• 35:46
  beautifully. His his wrists aren't too weak
• 35:49
  for the hammer and everything else I've seen.
• 35:51
  He's seen a really, really excellent figure for the bulk
• 35:56
  and the heft of him and amazing. Yeah, can't come.
• 36:00
  Right, we got a couple of other things this week.
• 36:03
  We got a little glimpse that Ox crew.
• 36:06
  So Chris Gorich was in China, China.
• 36:10
  So he he took he took some pictures of these are factory
• 36:16
  test shots. So we're not test shots.
• 36:19
  Paint, paint samples. Yeah.
• 36:22
  So these are actual figures. You know, they could be figures.
• 36:26
  They might just need some slight debugging on the paint and a few
• 36:30
  other little things and so they look great.
• 36:33
  If we get a closer look here, skate back, I don't think I
• 36:38
  think he's ready to go. Looks ready to go now.
• 36:41
  Leap off the name. And Kern Ray.
• 36:46
  Fantastic. Ridiculously good, she.
• 36:48
  Was great. The proportions are so nice on
• 36:52
  that figure. You know, you've got the kind of
• 36:54
  the pants that are kind of, you know, OK, pants can be like that
• 36:57
  and they're kind of wider. And then the the upper body is
• 37:00
  just really works well. And the belt is that a that's a
• 37:06
  slightly new belt as well. The yes, it is the pieces
• 37:09
  hanging off it. Maybe the actual belt itself is.
• 37:12
  I like the fact that obviously she's a 1.0 female, but she's
• 37:16
  just a little bit smaller than the Thoraxian, so just does give
• 37:19
  that a little bit of distinction again, yeah.
• 37:21
  Yeah, even in the necronomanous wave does the the amount of one
• 37:26
  point zeros was great and the the one 2.0 balloon.
• 37:32
  It is incredible. So no problems there and Traxian
• 37:38
  scout. So this one the paint looks
• 37:42
  incredible here and that torso is it's supposed to be a two
• 37:47
  piece torso. So this is the tiger torso as a
• 37:51
  stand in. Apparently with that two piece
• 37:53
  torso will be in the final figure.
• 37:55
  But they use this for the paint testing so.
• 37:59
  That's good to know, because they were saying at the start,
• 38:00
  weren't they, that they weren't sure whether the the torso cut
• 38:04
  torso would work. Or not.
• 38:06
  I saw. I saw a comment on the post,
• 38:07
  yeah. So it's good to see that
• 38:08
  actually it has worked. I know and look in there.
• 38:11
  I think the green looks even nicer than it did.
• 38:13
  I mean, it looked very bright originally, which I I liked, but
• 38:17
  I actually think it looks even better there than.
• 38:20
  Yeah, and there's a nice, there's a nice contrast between
• 38:23
  the white parts and the shading and.
• 38:25
  That's it. Yeah, so.
• 38:26
  It's a bit less blue here as well.
• 38:30
  I'm sorry Trevor, I know you hate me.
• 38:31
  I'm sorry. I I don't mean anything by it.
• 38:33
  I just can't resist. I'm a douchebag.
• 38:36
  He's one of our last remaining listeners.
• 38:38
  Don't get rid of him. OK, Really cool paint here, lots
• 38:46
  of gradients and stuff like that, and quite a unique build.
• 38:51
  Lots of new parts here. Taller than I was thinking.
• 38:55
  Yeah yeah, that because it is on the IS basically on the IS
• 38:59
  sipiton frame or whatever, you know with obviously the new head
• 39:07
  slash neck piece and the lower legs must be new as well.
• 39:12
  So it's hard to tell what's new because some of these parts are
• 39:16
  have been used since in say more recently announced wave and
• 39:20
  stuff like that. But yeah space dwarf.
• 39:23
  I think the longer this go this has been since he's been
• 39:28
  announced, the more I can't wait to get him in hand because he
• 39:33
  just looks so great. I.
• 39:35
  Still don't like that head? Oh, I think the head so good.
• 39:40
  It's radioactive. It's amazing.
• 39:42
  I start expression as well and that like looks, yeah,
• 39:47
  everything about it. But rich, you can pop a
• 39:50
  different head on because you have a lot.
• 39:51
  This is true. I have a lot of an awful lot.
• 39:53
  An awful lot of custom heads. And then we have Veloc and Mal
• 40:01
  you, you were talking about the head maybe?
• 40:04
  Yeah, it looks like Bobble headed there, doesn't it?
• 40:06
  But I'm guessing it's just been popped on top rather than
• 40:09
  snapped into place. Popped into place, whatever.
• 40:11
  You call OK. Well, the way it's sitting, it
• 40:14
  looks like it's just. I agree, yeah.
• 40:17
  I saw somebody made the suggestion that the, I can't
• 40:21
  remember, it was actually in the Kabal, I think that said they
• 40:23
  didn't think the suit looked as big as they were expecting in
• 40:26
  this shot. But I've looked at the picture a
• 40:29
  few times and I'm like, I sort of where I was thinking it would
• 40:32
  be. Yeah, I think if you put it
• 40:35
  beside like a sentry, if you look, if you put it beside the
• 40:38
  sentry or one of those Tusk suits, I think then you'll see
• 40:45
  that it is much thicker. Yeah.
• 40:48
  But it looks notorious. I think people were maybe
• 40:51
  thinking it was more brood scale than than one, you know, regular
• 40:57
  1.0 scale. So can't wait for this wave.
• 41:02
  They said shipping before the end of Q2, which means shipping
• 41:08
  from China before the end of June.
• 41:10
  So I'd say Midsummer August time, maybe we might start to
• 41:15
  have these shipping shipping out.
• 41:17
  So that would be great be summer of Cosmium again.
• 41:21
  I get to use that audio bed again and.
• 41:23
  That must mean that they're really flying on nicely with the
• 41:25
  All Star 6 as well. Yeah, they must be cut.
• 41:28
  They must be coming. In the meantime, Yeah, they.
• 41:31
  Said they would, but they must be track.
• 41:32
  Really. Yeah, flying through those,
• 41:34
  which is great. Just Speaking of Summer of
• 41:36
  Cosmium, I noticed there is a sale on some cosmic legions
• 41:41
  figures on big bad as well now and they've added more to their
• 41:45
  sale of mythics and that they had.
• 41:47
  Previously, what waves are? Pretty much everything buyers on
• 41:53
  their Novi and. Was the discount like 10%?
• 41:58
  What was it? So I can't remember what they
• 42:02
  normally were, but the Svexians I think were down to 4999.
• 42:06
  So the the, you know, the Yeah. Regular price, basically, yeah.
• 42:09
  Yeah. Instead of the deluxe price,
• 42:11
  Yeah. Yeah, same they were.
• 42:12
  Around the 60, something like that.
• 42:15
  The the builders from the 1st wave are on there for 30 odd, I
• 42:21
  think 30. Something, yeah, I've seen a lot
• 42:22
  of Legion builders that might still be in in stock at
• 42:26
  different places are gone down in price based on the Silver
• 42:30
  Knight Legion builder price, which that's a very
• 42:35
  underestimate figure. Yeah, I went back to look
• 42:37
  through my orders and to see what I did for these waves and
• 42:43
  it was all in, just just all in on their own.
• 42:45
  So that was good. I think I was for the first Ox
• 42:48
  crew with the intent of buying a second one, and then I missed
• 42:51
  out on the second one. So I'll have to pick up what I
• 42:55
  think. I've ordered a skate back on Big
• 42:57
  Bad because I really wanted to, and another Thrax, you know, Big
• 43:00
  Bad. Oh, and another Curtain Ray,
• 43:02
  because they were the three that I was like, I need seconds of
• 43:05
  them. Yeah.
• 43:07
  So the discounts are doing on big bad is the standard figures
• 43:10
  are down from 50 to 37 and the Legion builders are down from 45
• 43:15
  to 35. So pretty, pretty good discounts
• 43:20
  on 26 percent or something there, yeah.
• 43:23
  Good time to scoop up anything you might have missed in the
• 43:26
  past that you were looking to get or extras for customs.
• 43:30
  Yeah, yeah. Try and turn that $37 figure
• 43:36
  into $100 custom or something like that to keep on your chef.
• 43:41
  Of course I was. Going to say and then and then
• 43:43
  sell it. Allegiance come to $70.00
• 43:44
  because everyone's tight. Everyone is great.
• 43:49
  Oh, I love them all. I love them all.
• 43:50
  Bad mind. Particularly.
• 43:51
  People that bought them from me, God bless you all.
• 43:56
  Yeah, there's so many good figures in that.
• 44:00
  Austria 6, That's going to be fun.
• 44:01
  It's going to be a fun way. Yeah, I'm going to spend an
• 44:05
  awful lot on that time. I sold a lot of my All Stars to
• 44:08
  Templars because I prefer the Sir Enoch soft goods and that
• 44:13
  sort of look. But I need obviously need to
• 44:15
  replace those with Sir Enochs. So that's going to get quite
• 44:17
  pricey. That's going to, yeah, that's
• 44:20
  going to tip the price up, but and the belts pack as well.
• 44:23
  You'll have belts and all your old figures.
• 44:26
  Yes, I would do two or three belts back separate so.
• 44:28
  Yeah, so did I. Heads packed.
• 44:32
  I'm not even sure I could be bothered.
• 44:33
  The headlights still, Yeah, I'm not sure I can be bothered even
• 44:35
  replacing all the old belts. So it's just like, they're
• 44:37
  really cool belts, so I'm going to get a load of them.
• 44:41
  You just have the character wearing the old one and just
• 44:42
  carrying the new one because he hasn't quite changed yet.
• 44:45
  He's popping. Just yeah, he's about to go in
• 44:47
  the changing room any second. Just sort it out now.
• 44:51
  Yeah, you have a back from back from the suit shop shop look.
• 44:56
  You could get someone to make you a little dio of a shop
• 44:58
  that's selling belts and belts up behind the the figure just
• 45:03
  like a little. And then they have all the other
• 45:04
  the all the figures with the older thing just queuing up,
• 45:06
  waiting. To go in.
• 45:10
  With the old belts in their hands yeah looking sad trousers
• 45:13
  around their ankles. That's not bad right?
• 45:22
  We also got an update on the famous yes it exists game.
• 45:28
  So we I'll read that from the e-mail.
• 45:33
  So we're pleased to announce that the bait release of
• 45:35
  mythology leading legions tactics War of the Ather blade.
• 45:39
  It's a mouthful if you backed the game and we're due to
• 45:42
  receive beta access, which is basically anyone I think that
• 45:46
  was backed the deluxe version of the game.
• 45:49
  So if you remember back then, there was a basic version of the
• 45:52
  game and the deluxe version. And the deluxe version just came
• 45:56
  with a few extra things like this beta.
• 46:01
  And I think you get more coins and stuff to start the game and
• 46:06
  you, I don't know what it is, I thought.
• 46:08
  I did but I've not had a beta invite so I assumed they it was
• 46:12
  people who participated in previous things but.
• 46:17
  Note that the e-mail will come from 4:00 Horsemen Studios and
• 46:20
  is generated by Backer Kit, so please check your spam if you
• 46:25
  don't see it in your inbox. Beta is PC compatible only, so
• 46:30
  useless for any of us that don't have APC or didn't use the PC
• 46:36
  version of the game. Once the build has been tested,
• 46:40
  vetted and tested by users and we debug any issues, we will
• 46:44
  then adapt to Mac, iOS and Android.
• 46:48
  So us, Mac, iOS and Android people are more important
• 46:51
  obviously than those PC people suppose and expert platforms.
• 46:56
  It's on Xbox as well. Who has an Xbox these days?
• 47:00
  Surely it's just Playstations? I think so.
• 47:05
  And release the these tobaccas as well.
• 47:08
  Please use this link OK to provide feedback.
• 47:12
  We're now steps away from the full game release and we're
• 47:15
  excited to move into the stage. We know it's been a long time
• 47:18
  coming. It's been a long time coming.
• 47:23
  Below are some samples. Quite in the statement, isn't it
• 47:26
  really? Yeah, that was the.
• 47:28
  They sound like Taylor Swift when they went to see her with
• 47:30
  the kids. That was the very start of the
• 47:32
  concert was that was it's that little kind of refrain from one
• 47:38
  of our songs and below our sample images.
• 47:41
  So we can see these from the digital art book that captures
• 47:45
  the making of the game. This will be sent to backers of
• 47:49
  that reward shortly. So I just realized these are
• 47:55
  from the digital art book. So I don't know how
• 47:57
  representative these are of the game now, so, but still worth
• 48:02
  looking at, I suppose. So here's a shell yard in the
• 48:07
  northern part of the map of Mythos, which mightn't be the
• 48:12
  north of of anywhere anymore, given that the world has
• 48:16
  expanded, but it's the north of Mythos.
• 48:21
  Looks OK. No, Yeah, yeah, This is going to
• 48:26
  be fun. The really call again, OK,
• 48:31
  here's the map. I guess in in the game you can
• 48:36
  kind of pick points on the map and do this.
• 48:39
  Have you got the game coming Rich?
• 48:41
  No, you're on mute mate. All my funny ditties again
• 48:48
  missed. No I I'm not a gamer at all.
• 48:52
  So. OK, I didn't order the game, not
• 48:55
  even for your phone. No, Oh no, I'm if I'm playing
• 48:59
  games on my phone, it's something simple like darts or
• 49:02
  darts putting put your coloured. Yeah, have you?
• 49:07
  Does your phone not do that? I dropped it in the stairs today
• 49:13
  actually in my phone and it didn't break so the cover did
• 49:15
  its job. Yeah, well, I sent you boys a
• 49:17
  picture, didn't I? When I was away this weekend of
• 49:19
  my mortal enemy, the the Rock Pool in North Wales.
• 49:22
  Yes, it did. Did for my last phone.
• 49:26
  And all me and Mal could think of was how cool it looks for
• 49:28
  taking pictures. Beautiful, beautiful spot, but
• 49:32
  you know. Bring your fingers that only.
• 49:33
  Did it. They'd liberally trick me.
• 49:35
  But then, yeah, cut my legs up and broke my phone so I hate it.
• 49:39
  It's my nemesis. Here's the kind of like a game
• 49:44
  board or whatever with the load of squares and some characters.
• 49:49
  This kind of looks cool bar scene in the graphics.
• 49:53
  If that is the graphic for the game they look pretty decent.
• 49:56
  Yeah, they don't, too bad. And then we have ather hold.
• 50:01
  So this seems to be some, this is more like designing the area.
• 50:06
  This is relevant to what you might see in the game, might be
• 50:10
  slightly more finalized. This is auto.
• 50:15
  So I think they're just trolling us with this one.
• 50:20
  He was still available for $50 when they started making.
• 50:26
  Yeah, he wasn't even up for pre-order, right?
• 50:33
  It seems to be. I mean, you could zoom in there,
• 50:35
  you get a little good look at Nakeds Auto maybe.
• 50:38
  I think he's wearing all the fuss is about.
• 50:43
  Mythos is ass. There's there sparking up a bit
• 50:51
  again. I mean, that's pretty cool.
• 50:53
  You know, it looks, I mean it looks a bit beta there or maybe
• 50:57
  alpha, I don't know. Yeah, I'm looking at this guy.
• 51:00
  Not my eyes. She's Lord.
• 51:02
  For shotty alpha, kind of more low res alpha.
• 51:11
  And here's the Dick Tiller in his old armor.
• 51:17
  So yeah. Ether hold.
• 51:23
  See, to me, that doesn't look that good.
• 51:25
  No. No, it doesn't look great that
• 51:27
  does. It unless unless I don't know
• 51:30
  less open arms about this because it's from the the art
• 51:33
  book. So it could be, you know, a.
• 51:35
  Bit early in the. Process for Shadow Grove.
• 51:39
  OK, never heard of that on the map.
• 51:42
  It may be it's there somewhere. OK.
• 51:48
  And then Sampton slope. No, this is something else
• 51:52
  entirely. OK.
• 51:55
  Until. Until he shows up and.
• 51:57
  Fortress of the Gilded Light line, so that doesn't look too
• 52:01
  bad. Yeah.
• 52:03
  It's a bit small. Yeah, Castle on the four sides.
• 52:06
  So that seems to be, this seems to be some sort of gaming going
• 52:09
  on there inside the castle. OK, so that's that anyway.
• 52:15
  Yeah, as Mark said, we'll see when it comes out, won't we?
• 52:17
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, you actually.
• 52:19
  But we will. I won't know, but I'll see a
• 52:21
  shot. Screenshots of the people.
• 52:23
  Oh yeah, yeah. We'll send you, we'll send you a
• 52:25
  screenshot. Yeah, I need to.
• 52:27
  I need to look up over the next days what I actually ordered
• 52:33
  game wise, but I don't know how I'll find that e-mail now.
• 52:39
  Does my e-mail come back that far?
• 52:42
  Right. Couple of other things we wanted
• 52:45
  to get to this week. Rich, you had some custom
• 52:49
  faction organizing, so tell us what you were doing this week.
• 52:52
  Yes, so I was up in North Wales, his mum's birthday, so I went up
• 52:55
  there for a few days. Very happy birthday to the boss.
• 53:02
  Yes, the the senior member of the household.
• 53:08
  Yeah. So I, I took a load of painted
• 53:10
  parts that you guys and probably most listeners know my epic,
• 53:14
  what seems like 1000 years struggle to get everything on my
• 53:16
  shelves in my display room. So I've got to the point now
• 53:19
  where I can start. Really liked it.
• 53:22
  You know, a lot of stuff's up there already, but really just
• 53:23
  get everything out there. So I had lots of painted heads
• 53:26
  and torsos and boxes and storage boxes.
• 53:31
  So I thought, right, make it quicker to get them on the
• 53:33
  shelves. Start, you know, rather than
• 53:34
  just having Everything Everywhere, get all the heads
• 53:37
  from a particular faction, put them together in one box, then
• 53:40
  the next heads from a different faction in that box.
• 53:43
  So they're all together sort of thing.
• 53:44
  So while I was doing that, I thought I'd take some pictures
• 53:46
  and show you boys. And we talked about maybe
• 53:48
  showing it on the on the podcast.
• 53:51
  Yeah. So here's the first faction.
• 53:53
  So this is my samurai faction. As you can tell from this, I
• 53:57
  have a lot of critters in my samurai faction.
• 54:00
  There aren't many human samurais, so I'm not going to
• 54:03
  get through everything, but we've got a snarling evil
• 54:05
  kitsune there at the bottom left.
• 54:08
  I was inspired by a mouse samurais type of character that
• 54:12
  Jeremy Gerard did, so the one in the middle there.
• 54:13
  And Jeremy's obviously fine with people, you know, doing similar
• 54:17
  sort of stuff. But the Simon, the guy I got to
• 54:20
  paint it was like, I want to do it differently.
• 54:22
  Same sort of theme as Jeremy's, but I want to do it differently
• 54:24
  so he's not copying. So there you go.
• 54:26
  There got a raccoon, a rabbit. So I'm curious, is that rabbit
• 54:32
  it? It's more of a bun rabbit than a
• 54:34
  Bunny rabbit. Very good man.
• 54:37
  It is, yes, very good. And that's his idea.
• 54:41
  All week. Yeah.
• 54:42
  So you can put the the sort of Wicker hat on it.
• 54:47
  So is it? Was it sort of?
• 54:48
  Done as a knot Yisagi Yoshimbo set then yes.
• 54:52
  I think that was the plan, yeah. And then on the left there,
• 54:56
  there is big old demon head, which it can be like a ogre
• 55:01
  scale demon samurai. They came all the way from
• 55:05
  Russia in the days where you could buy things from Russia and
• 55:07
  they weren't all sanctioned. Wow, I guess those days are
• 55:12
  coming back, no? Well, Trump has his way.
• 55:16
  Yes, right. Then these are my Templars and
• 55:22
  usually for me there are a few humans in this one.
• 55:24
  So my Templars tend not to be human particularly, but we've
• 55:26
  got a face insert on the left there from Mark Calvo, which I
• 55:31
  just need to RIP the face out of a Silonian guard and then shove
• 55:34
  that one in there. And then that's replaced that
• 55:38
  next to it is a was meant to be a dwarf head from Jason
• 55:42
  Rodriguez, but I'm going to use it as a human and Mark painted
• 55:45
  that one up for me as well. And we've got an orc, Orc
• 55:49
  Templar because obviously I have different creatures.
• 55:52
  We've got a wolf one at the back there.
• 55:54
  There's a cat one in the middle. I picked up that head from Brian
• 55:57
  say it. I think it was last not last
• 56:00
  year, but the year before was legions con.
• 56:02
  So that's really cool. Yeah, it's good.
• 56:04
  Originally it was going to be a small character, but the head's
• 56:06
  a bit big. So I'm going to put it on a a
• 56:08
  1.0 Templar body. And then the bottom right there
• 56:11
  is going on Templar emissary. And John, you painted that one
• 56:14
  for me. So that's and he's second Sir
• 56:17
  Elijah for that one. Nice.
• 56:23
  So these the one. I painted here too.
• 56:25
  Yes, these are my order of ether on so there's the stunningly.
• 56:29
  On it back. So there's a stunningly handsome
• 56:33
  head on the left hand side of the screen, moulded on my my
• 56:37
  good self, which John did a fabulous job of painting.
• 56:41
  And this is going to be hose a knight basically.
• 56:44
  So when we had the Armory Knight, I did a combination of
• 56:47
  green and purple parts in one figure because that's those two
• 56:50
  favorite colours. And obviously that guy's a show
• 56:53
  off. He's got a different colour
• 56:54
  armour mixed together. He's a show off.
• 56:56
  So I'm going to put my own head on it.
• 57:00
  And then the other two pieces, they're both painted by Dennis
• 57:02
  Darby or Derby. Sorry, Dennis, you're American.
• 57:07
  So there's one that's like a Knight's helmet, but like a bone
• 57:10
  look. So that's going to be like a
• 57:11
  renegade Audrey Etheron knight you as a bone helmet sort of
• 57:15
  thing, because he goes off after the skeletons and then just a
• 57:17
  really cool sort of city guard type head there as well.
• 57:21
  Yeah, I like that one, the pocket, so.
• 57:25
  Yeah, so this is my the the Putrid Mass faction.
• 57:29
  So this is like a splinter group favorite.
• 57:31
  Yeah. So this is like a split.
• 57:34
  Of paint APS. Yeah, the joke here is Mal is a
• 57:39
  bit queasy for with all this kind of Nergal stuff.
• 57:43
  It's like a go on. Nah, I was gonna say he's all
• 57:46
  right. It's like a slimy splint of
• 57:48
  action from circle poxes basically.
• 57:50
  So the guy on the left is a wizard who's rotting away
• 57:54
  himself, but he's he's just reanimating these things and
• 57:57
  this sort of stuff. And then the middle at the top
• 58:00
  there you've got a zombie ogre head, which I love the sculpt.
• 58:03
  It's a teal Titan sculpt. Jack Mitchell in the UK did a
• 58:06
  fabulous paint job. So I, I'm going to make one of
• 58:11
  my disabolus unsellable in future because I'm going to
• 58:14
  drill a couple of holes through so that the ogre looks like it's
• 58:17
  really, you know, it's probably dead.
• 58:20
  It got taken out by a cannonball or whatever sort of thing.
• 58:22
  So watch this space for tears and cursing as I destroy the
• 58:27
  figure by doing a really bad job of trying to drill through.
• 58:29
  It it drove through one of the bits that keeps it together.
• 58:31
  So it just, yeah. Falls apart, yeah.
• 58:35
  In which case it'll be a dismembered ogre on the floor
• 58:38
  with just the head by it. Yeah, the bottom one in the
• 58:43
  middle there, just to touch on that.
• 58:44
  So that was a a sculpt that was done for a troll originally, but
• 58:49
  Zemo dolls, that propmaster shrunk it down for a 1.0 fits.
• 58:51
  That's going to be my niggle demon.
• 58:54
  And then you just got some niggle Knights and that sort of
• 58:56
  thing on the other side. So there's a headless headless,
• 58:59
  an eyeless helmet there with a goo coming out of it.
• 59:03
  There's a Von Burke head on the bottom right there.
• 59:06
  That Eugene eunuch did a brilliant job painting.
• 59:09
  Yeah. So I love the faction.
• 59:11
  It's it's weird, it's horrible. It's Yikki, but it's one of my
• 59:14
  favourites. Cool.
• 59:20
  So these are the circle epoxys and convocation characters.
• 59:25
  So this I should say this isn't all of the heads I got for you.
• 59:28
  A lot of the heads are on the shelves already and just need
• 59:31
  attaching the body properly and that sort of stuff.
• 59:33
  But we've got a mouse wizard here that John expertly painted.
• 59:37
  We have a gnome. Well, what's going to be a gnome
• 59:39
  mage head done in the colours of the Welsh flags.
• 59:42
  You've got the red hair, the green moustache and the white
• 59:45
  goatee beard. And he's going to have that
• 59:48
  chest plate that comes in with the the bottles and that on it
• 59:53
  with my gnomes. I'm going to, my plan is that
• 59:56
  they're going to have the bulk of a dwarf, but I'm going to use
• 59:59
  the wolfking custom mouse feet and hands.
• 1:00:03
  So they'll have this big bulky torso, but be that chunk shorter
• 1:00:06
  sort of thing because of that. And then on the right, you've
• 1:00:10
  got a couple of circle epoxers characters.
• 1:00:12
  You've got an eyeless human wizard, and then there's a
• 1:00:16
  really cool Puerto Rican demon on the right far right there.
• 1:00:20
  That von Burke was selling last year's Legions con.
• 1:00:23
  They were an exclusive thing. It was like this X number of
• 1:00:25
  these. And once they're gone, they're
• 1:00:26
  gone. They're never making it again.
• 1:00:27
  And Roberto, who's there with Brian, he was the one that sort
• 1:00:31
  of came up with the idea sort of thing.
• 1:00:33
  So that one's going to be a a possessed Templar relic guard
• 1:00:39
  who's gone rogue and is now working with the the Circle of
• 1:00:41
  Boxes. Super cool.
• 1:00:45
  Yeah, right. I mean, you'll never guess what
• 1:00:49
  clan this is. A couple of these I think.
• 1:00:54
  The the Fury clan, yes. So, so John, bottom left is your
• 1:00:58
  handiwork. There's an orc there that I'm
• 1:01:00
  going to use as a ronin type character.
• 1:01:02
  It's like a samurai type character.
• 1:01:05
  I've already got a samurai fury elf in that clan, so I can get
• 1:01:11
  another samurai in there. Bottom middle there is a red
• 1:01:14
  panda with his little hat, little cool little hat sort of
• 1:01:18
  thing. So he's just looking, he's
• 1:01:19
  looking pissed off. So, so that's from Corey Shorts
• 1:01:23
  and Hoffer. Top left is a sabretooth again
• 1:01:27
  from Corey. Love the sabretooth sculpt, but
• 1:01:29
  I wasn't quite sure how I'd make it work when then when I started
• 1:01:32
  painting one red, it was like, yeah, Fury clan, there we go.
• 1:01:35
  The one in the middle there is a miner tall with multiple horns.
• 1:01:38
  It looks like 2 there, but there's actually a couple more
• 1:01:40
  behind. That's from an eBay seller
• 1:01:43
  called Smalling Ed or something like that.
• 1:01:46
  They're quite pricey pieces. They're about probably $50 a
• 1:01:48
  piece, but they're really top quality if you're going to just
• 1:01:52
  buy a couple. Then you have a Fury
• 1:01:55
  crocodilian, again from Corey. So good, isn't it?
• 1:01:59
  I love that. Yeah.
• 1:02:01
  Absolutely love that losing job with that.
• 1:02:03
  Yeah. And then on the far right is me
• 1:02:06
  again, because you can't have too many Me's.
• 1:02:08
  So this is a this is a Fury Clan, Rich.
• 1:02:12
  Yeah. So you know Zemo when he, Zemo
• 1:02:15
  and Eddie at Brock Masters did the sculpts of me and Zemo
• 1:02:18
  painted a few up in different colours and then one of them was
• 1:02:20
  a Fury Clan 1. So this is going to be, yeah, my
• 1:02:23
  Fury Clan Ridge. Really cool, right?
• 1:02:30
  Oh. I think these are my favourites.
• 1:02:31
  So this this is my I've got a faction called the hunters.
• 1:02:34
  It's a bit of a gather all sort of thing.
• 1:02:36
  So there's lots of vampire hunters.
• 1:02:38
  So the top three things are there's an orc there on the top
• 1:02:42
  left that's part of the vampire hunting crew and you mine
• 1:02:47
  ability on the picture. Basically the he's wearing like
• 1:02:52
  bone slash wood armour, so you can just take pits off and stab
• 1:02:55
  the vampires with them. He's also wearing a vampire skin
• 1:02:58
  chest plate, so it's painted to match the vampire skin because
• 1:03:03
  he's a lunatic. In the middle there you've got a
• 1:03:06
  wet planter, dog toys, werewolf, so he's the muscle of the group.
• 1:03:12
  And then John on the far right there is ones that you painted.
• 1:03:15
  So this is a tree man who's now a vampire hunter.
• 1:03:17
  Yeah, I love him. Yeah, I love him.
• 1:03:19
  Yeah, been a really good job job there, John.
• 1:03:22
  Yeah, brilliant job. Yeah.
• 1:03:24
  And then there's a a NORC who hunts bears, as you can tell,
• 1:03:27
  because he's wearing a bear head pelt, which the first Legions
• 1:03:31
  con I went to Aaron from Big Head Studios painted that for me
• 1:03:35
  while I was there sort of thing. Oh, wow, I really, I really like
• 1:03:38
  that painting when you got and he's like, Oh, someone's bought
• 1:03:39
  that, but I can paint another one for you.
• 1:03:41
  He was like brilliant. There you go.
• 1:03:42
  So he painted that at the show. And then the, and then the torso
• 1:03:46
  on the right is by a British painter that I use called Simon
• 1:03:49
  Crowe. And he does amazing free hand
• 1:03:51
  like tattoos and markings and that sort of stuff.
• 1:03:55
  So this is part of my I haven't got the head there because
• 1:03:57
  that's that was still where I am now in Bristol and I've taken
• 1:03:59
  these in Anglesey, but I'm he's going to be my dwarf troll
• 1:04:03
  hunter. So it's the panty dog toys,
• 1:04:05
  troll hunter head. John, you painted a couple, I
• 1:04:07
  think Mal, you painted one as well with the giant Mohican and
• 1:04:10
  the big beard and that sort of stuff.
• 1:04:12
  So that's going to go with that one.
• 1:04:14
  Awesome. These are my dwarfs.
• 1:04:18
  You got a samurai one at the top left there, just a really cool
• 1:04:22
  armour set in the middle and again, like a ronin type
• 1:04:25
  character on the right there that Mark Calvo did for me.
• 1:04:29
  There's a, you know, typical dwarfs or quorums like a dwarf
• 1:04:34
  blind sage on the bottom left there, so just the white eyes
• 1:04:39
  and then you're like a Mongol dwarf on the bottom right there.
• 1:04:41
  The blaze bear painted up for me, which is a really cool
• 1:04:43
  character. These are all really good,
• 1:04:45
  really good paint jobs I can see.
• 1:04:46
  Yes. So we've got Corey top left, I
• 1:04:50
  think it was Brett from Dusseldawn Studios in the
• 1:04:52
  middle, top Mark Calvert top right, Blaze bottom right.
• 1:04:58
  I can't remember who did the bottom middle, apologies, and
• 1:05:02
  the bottom left I think might be.
• 1:05:05
  I'm sure they don't remember either.
• 1:05:10
  These these are some of my gladiators.
• 1:05:13
  So, John. Recognize this torso?
• 1:05:14
  The fat boy torso, you did. So I'm going to shove probably a
• 1:05:20
  zesray head, that helmeted head on that one.
• 1:05:23
  He's going to be my fat boy or thick boy gladiator.
• 1:05:28
  He's matched. To the to the Legion builder
• 1:05:32
  Premier Ogre, isn't it? Not the ogre, no.
• 1:05:36
  This is the 1.0 size 1 so this is match 2.
• 1:05:38
  Oh, this is 1.0 is it? Barbarian builder?
• 1:05:41
  Is that called the Gladiator Legion builder?
• 1:05:44
  Yeah. Then we've got a whispering 2.0
• 1:05:49
  female whispering Gladiator there in the green.
• 1:05:53
  At the moment that head doesn't fit on the neck peg very well,
• 1:05:55
  so I'm going to have to find a way to cut that neck peg neck
• 1:05:58
  peg down without destroying it. Then we've got a couple of Roman
• 1:06:02
  style ones on the right hand side there, the one with the the
• 1:06:07
  purple and white crashed on his helmet.
• 1:06:10
  I'm going to use that on a Marvel Legends Hercules body.
• 1:06:13
  The Hercules body actually works really well in terms of mythic
• 1:06:17
  sort of thing. And then there's a Zezre figure.
• 1:06:20
  They had an exclusive Roman that had purple garb rather than
• 1:06:23
  blue. So I've taken a couple bits of
• 1:06:25
  that and used that as part of the, the sort of the armour and
• 1:06:27
  that sort of thing that he wears to tie all that in.
• 1:06:31
  We've then got another Tree Man because I love Tree Man.
• 1:06:33
  So there's a Tree Man Gladiator down the bottom there on the
• 1:06:37
  left and then bottom right is just a really cool fancy
• 1:06:40
  gladiator helmet the Dennis Derby painted for me.
• 1:06:44
  Very cool, love that one, right? Congregation of Necronominus,
• 1:06:50
  Yeah. So we have a skeletal or zombie
• 1:06:56
  dragon head on the top left here.
• 1:06:58
  This was a freebie sent to me by Joel from Headhunter Customs.
• 1:07:04
  So shout out to him for that. Was very kind of him to give me
• 1:07:06
  that for free. Had it painted up.
• 1:07:08
  Going to shove on the skeleton book a little bit of paint work
• 1:07:10
  on that. I have a skeletal jester on the
• 1:07:15
  top right there as emo painted this one up me.
• 1:07:17
  Did a lovely job. Then we have a torso which was
• 1:07:20
  going to be used for head which split when I took it out of the
• 1:07:22
  pack up in Anglesey. The the head had exploded
• 1:07:25
  basically or shattered to the resin had poured out.
• 1:07:28
  So I'll now find another use for that torso.
• 1:07:31
  Brian Burke helmet in the middle air for a skeleton which has got
• 1:07:35
  the skin from someone's face just nailed onto it, which is
• 1:07:38
  gruesome as you like, but I love it.
• 1:07:42
  And then the bottom right then is another Von Burke.
• 1:07:44
  It's one of their Von Box heads So well, long retired.
• 1:07:49
  I just love this sort of multi eyed sort of look to the helmet.
• 1:07:52
  I'm in the middle. I'm painting that Brian
• 1:07:55
  Burkehead von Birkehead, and it's one of those moments where
• 1:08:00
  you you've got something in your head and you're like, is that?
• 1:08:03
  I think it's and and there's that bit me going.
• 1:08:06
  Do I Google dead bodies? Not on a work computer, man.
• 1:08:13
  I've resisted so far and I'm just doing it off what I think
• 1:08:16
  in my head. Incognito tab now.
• 1:08:23
  Brian had a few of these painted up at Lesions Con last year and
• 1:08:27
  the other ones tended to be a bit less gory and a bit more
• 1:08:29
  sedate and I was like, no, I want the really gory 1.
• 1:08:33
  Yeah, of course I do. I want the effect as if the skin
• 1:08:36
  face has been on there for a while, you know, so it's.
• 1:08:40
  Oh, so it's like, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:43
  Like that mountain and the head and the bottom right there, the
• 1:08:45
  one box one that's going to be one of the characters that's
• 1:08:47
  riding one of the five colobus that I've ordered.
• 1:08:50
  And it's all right for my shelves.
• 1:08:53
  Hey, guess what? Yeah, whatever, whatever.
• 1:09:00
  Two weeks time I'll have my 5 breathing the petroleum did.
• 1:09:06
  You just sniff a bag of horse. But he did, yeah.
• 1:09:11
  No as long. As you start licking it, we're
• 1:09:12
  OK, but. Can do only won't be able to
• 1:09:16
  sleep tonight or I'll just instantly go to sleep.
• 1:09:18
  I don't know. Right, let's let's do this last
• 1:09:21
  one and then save the rest for for another one.
• 1:09:24
  Yes, so, so this is on the right hand side, there's a Medusa
• 1:09:28
  head. This is a teal Titan one again I
• 1:09:31
  think. Honestly, and I don't say this
• 1:09:34
  lightly, Rich, I think that might be my favorite version of
• 1:09:37
  that head I've ever seen. That that paint app, it just
• 1:09:41
  looks so cool, so different. It's really, really good.
• 1:09:44
  Yeah. And I'll, I'll take a picture
• 1:09:46
  and show you boys of the the tail section and the torso that
• 1:09:49
  is painted to match that. That's Simon Crow.
• 1:09:52
  British painted mine to get him to paint.
• 1:09:54
  I just gave him free rein and was like, just do what you, you
• 1:09:57
  know, don't make it green. That's, that's been done a few
• 1:10:00
  times, you know, come up with something.
• 1:10:02
  And he came up with this amazing sort of peachy coloured snakes
• 1:10:05
  and the tea elite turquoise sort of it's so good.
• 1:10:10
  The head and torso in the middle is from Zemo dolls and prop
• 1:10:13
  masters. I wanted her two soldiers that
• 1:10:16
  are with her in my or will be with her in my display.
• 1:10:19
  I didn't want anything with eyes because obviously she used to
• 1:10:21
  turn them to stone. That's a good idea.
• 1:10:23
  So therefore I was looking for eyeless sculpts and their prop
• 1:10:26
  master said too. So there's one in the middle
• 1:10:28
  where I got the torso and the head together.
• 1:10:30
  And then on the left there is again a prop most one.
• 1:10:35
  Zima painted the head and John painted a really cool hand they
• 1:10:38
  got from Dusty Dawn Studios, which has got an eye in the
• 1:10:40
  hand, so it can't be turned to stone because his face hasn't
• 1:10:43
  got the eyes, but he's got an eye on his hand.
• 1:10:47
  Creepy. I really like that.
• 1:10:49
  Yeah. Very cool.
• 1:10:52
  There you go, and we can do, you know, a few more in another
• 1:10:53
  episode. There's lots to show that's.
• 1:10:55
  A good idea, yeah. So I wanted to show a couple of
• 1:11:01
  customs I had done, so I posted these.
• 1:11:05
  These are a selection of cosmic customs.
• 1:11:09
  So I did bunch of these over January and February and now I
• 1:11:15
  went on holidays last week and I'm kind of I'm at a I'm at a
• 1:11:20
  roadblock and the Necronominus pre-order arrived.
• 1:11:22
  So there is just boxes and plastic packaging everywhere
• 1:11:27
  near where I paint. So there needs to be tidying up
• 1:11:31
  before. John, can I check, do you have a
• 1:11:33
  name for the group of pigs? No, no, nothing yet.
• 1:11:37
  Can I recommend? Can I recommend?
• 1:11:40
  Oh well, Miles just beat me too. I was going to say sorry, but
• 1:11:43
  Pigs in Space is clearly better. What were you going to say?
• 1:11:47
  Sorry, Rich. The snout squad.
• 1:11:50
  That's no, that's pretty cool. That's pretty good.
• 1:11:53
  Yeah, I was going to ask you to write a couple of BIOS.
• 1:11:55
  So. So maybe I'll absolutely swill
• 1:12:00
  Buffy slow. Yeah, I like that.
• 1:12:05
  These are amazing. They're all.
• 1:12:07
  So really fun figures this so. So this this guy here and with
• 1:12:13
  the one arm. So I just got bunch of cosmic
• 1:12:17
  pieces and wanted to make I had these big heads from Paul's
• 1:12:21
  customs. That's where they came from at
• 1:12:23
  legions Con and I got the idea of yeah, some sort of cosmic
• 1:12:28
  pigs. So space pigs.
• 1:12:30
  Good idea. This guy has the the best piece,
• 1:12:37
  the kind of Canox full. Yeah.
• 1:12:41
  Also his pauldron is the one arm thing.
• 1:12:44
  So I've kind of connected it there with green stuff and a bit
• 1:12:48
  of glue and kind of attached it to the torso.
• 1:12:50
  That's a Novian mean torso, I think, or the same style.
• 1:12:54
  And just one of his pauldrons over here, obviously the
• 1:12:58
  Canucks. No, it's is it calyx full?
• 1:13:02
  Yeah. The the ogre scale guy.
• 1:13:05
  Yeah, yeah, brute scale guy is a brute scale, Yeah.
• 1:13:08
  And that's his foot there as well, obviously, yeah.
• 1:13:10
  And looks. Like it works really well.
• 1:13:13
  It does. Actually, yeah, it's been
• 1:13:14
  involved in a horrible industrial accident or something
• 1:13:16
  like that, and they just like attach pieces.
• 1:13:19
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's gone through, he's gone through a saw
• 1:13:23
  a sci-fi sawmill. It's.
• 1:13:24
  Like one of those 80s health and safety adverts that went
• 1:13:26
  horribly wrong sort of thing and he slipped on a banana that
• 1:13:29
  someone left on the floor, tripped, lost his arm, flipped
• 1:13:32
  over, had his leg chopped off. It was just horrible.
• 1:13:36
  Yep, this guy then is warthog. Kind of more more like a warthog
• 1:13:41
  than a pig. But yeah, some sort of bore this
• 1:13:44
  heads from Wolf King and I. Love the colours of this one.
• 1:13:47
  Yeah, decided to go right here with him and the build is pretty
• 1:13:52
  straightforward. Bunch of cosmic legions process
• 1:13:57
  of Vorga belt I think other than that pretty standard cosmic
• 1:14:03
  regions parts head cool with the cigar and everything and the
• 1:14:08
  colours. This guy kind of it's not dwarf
• 1:14:13
  scale. It's kind of in between 1.01
• 1:14:16
  dwarf. So it's with the dwarf upper
• 1:14:18
  legs. These lower legs are from Toy
• 1:14:22
  Forge and the boots they're he's kind of dwarf boots.
• 1:14:27
  I think this is my favorite of the group.
• 1:14:29
  I decided to do 2 different colours here so I basically
• 1:14:34
  separated the pieces and did them separately and put them
• 1:14:37
  together at the end and thankfully it worked so.
• 1:14:41
  I love the colour scheme, John. Say, this one's, this one's my
• 1:14:43
  favorite, They're all great, but this one, just the colour scheme
• 1:14:46
  and that really, really horrible face, quite frankly.
• 1:14:49
  Yeah. What?
• 1:14:50
  Faces are so good. Yeah, well, it was fun was so I
• 1:14:52
  did the I did the heads first. I painted the heads 1st and then
• 1:14:55
  I did the in the customs and then it was actually deciding
• 1:14:58
  when I when I had a custom done, which head works best on this
• 1:15:01
  custom. This one worked perfectly
• 1:15:05
  because it also sits in a little bit and that head it just has a
• 1:15:08
  slightly, slightly wider face. Yeah, and it just fits in there
• 1:15:13
  perfectly. This guy Fury.
• 1:15:17
  So this was with the red some of the rest of the canonical parts.
• 1:15:22
  So obviously the the wrist pieces and the piece that goes
• 1:15:27
  over the top of the torso into the neck.
• 1:15:32
  So that was interesting to do and dwarf upper legs with the
• 1:15:39
  kind of cybernetic, the cybernetic leg from canonical
• 1:15:43
  there and then the normal cosmic feet and lower leg on the other
• 1:15:48
  side. So Fury in space, we're happy
• 1:15:54
  with Fury cosmic now. Oh.
• 1:15:55
  Fury clans everywhere? Absolutely.
• 1:16:01
  This guy might be my favorite. I don't know why it's probably
• 1:16:04
  because just more squat and I like the the green this torsos,
• 1:16:08
  tiger torsos from Anthony and it's got a bit of a belly on it.
• 1:16:12
  So liked that he's got a mythic wrist on this side and cosmic on
• 1:16:17
  the other. My favorite little no be lean
• 1:16:20
  piece to round the around the head, that little scarf type
• 1:16:26
  piece. And I did what a bunch of people
• 1:16:29
  have done before, which is the the legs, the upper legs to make
• 1:16:33
  it kind of dwarf just straight into the feet.
• 1:16:36
  And he used a little bit of hot glue here to mold, to mold a
• 1:16:41
  whole hot glue and Vaseline. Never thought I'd get that
• 1:16:45
  crack. Sounds like a great evening.
• 1:16:50
  And I think the blue pouch is here actually really work with
• 1:16:52
  the green on the belt. Yeah, I love this one.
• 1:16:58
  This guy is cool as well. Yeah.
• 1:17:00
  This head is from Mark Calvo and also sculpted by.
• 1:17:07
  Was it? Who's which was it?
• 1:17:08
  No way. No way.
• 1:17:11
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:17:14
  So pretty standard build, other than that mix of mythic and
• 1:17:17
  cosmic parts. You can see them there,
• 1:17:19
  obviously the mythic torso and skirt piece and most of the rest
• 1:17:24
  of the parts are cosmic. I've done a bunch of accessories
• 1:17:28
  for these guys as well and I'm just going to put them together
• 1:17:32
  at Legion's gone probably Sharky Boy Wolf King's head.
• 1:17:37
  I actually thought it was borderland, but really nice.
• 1:17:39
  It's Wolf King. This was tricky to do just to
• 1:17:42
  get the transition with the head and the body, but I think it
• 1:17:47
  works in the end. That works really well.
• 1:17:49
  And the armor, it's hard to see in the picture there, but the
• 1:17:51
  armor is my best Matt Stein patina because he's in the water
• 1:17:56
  all the time. So, you know, I thought that
• 1:17:58
  would work. And I did a little belt buckle
• 1:18:01
  there with some sort of weird symbol with some green stuff.
• 1:18:04
  So you know I'm getting my customizing on.
• 1:18:08
  So the gun on is is wrist edge on, is that just a storage place
• 1:18:11
  for a rifle or is that just a big hand weapon that he has?
• 1:18:14
  Yeah, I've been. It's just attached with the peg
• 1:18:17
  so you can take it on and off. Just thought it worked there for
• 1:18:21
  the photo. Also pretty tricky to get the
• 1:18:23
  gun into those hands. Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:27
  If I could maybe give him a spear in the end, yeah, maybe
• 1:18:29
  dealer's choice. Maybe people can just choose
• 1:18:31
  what accessory they want. No, I, I, I can say now this,
• 1:18:35
  this head and the way you've used it inspired me to buy this
• 1:18:37
  head as well. So there you go.
• 1:18:39
  I have one on the way for my mythics.
• 1:18:41
  So yeah, I wasn't going to let it before I saw this.
• 1:18:43
  And I was like. No, I also have the that head
• 1:18:46
  that it has the hammer head. Oh, the hammer head look as
• 1:18:48
  well, yeah. So I'm going to use that head
• 1:18:51
  for another custom coming up right And then this guy is
• 1:19:01
  amazing. I had to take him out because
• 1:19:02
  the cut. This is so hard to photograph
• 1:19:04
  because of the colours. I do have a good cameras as
• 1:19:07
  well, but for indoor like I mean, and not a regular camera
• 1:19:14
  as well as the phone camera and the phone camera tends to mess
• 1:19:18
  up the colours sometimes on this type of thing.
• 1:19:21
  So I took him outside of the proper camera to kind of get the
• 1:19:23
  colours. And even then it probably still
• 1:19:25
  looks better in hand just because some of the colours
• 1:19:28
  they're like that pink on the neck.
• 1:19:30
  It's there's more contrast than that.
• 1:19:33
  It's not just one solid colour. But yeah, this is so this is the
• 1:19:38
  first customer did with the Minion body.
• 1:19:41
  And the tail is is also there. You can just see it in the
• 1:19:44
  background. The double neck from Mark Calvo
• 1:19:48
  was the key piece here, I think. And then those heads, I was
• 1:19:52
  going to use the snakeheads initially.
• 1:19:53
  And then I was like, maybe these are the kind of funky and less
• 1:19:58
  obvious, you know, and more cosmic, more likely to be
• 1:20:01
  cosmic. Yeah, these these are from.
• 1:20:05
  What's the name of that? They're not actually doing parts
• 1:20:09
  anymore. Carrick something.
• 1:20:11
  Or. Carrick.
• 1:20:12
  Yeah. Karan.
• 1:20:13
  Karting studio or something like that.
• 1:20:17
  And you've been working, Mark Calvo sells them.
• 1:20:19
  Yeah, but he said he's not doing any.
• 1:20:21
  He's doing some other project at the moment, so he's not doing
• 1:20:24
  any kids. And then I.
• 1:20:26
  Don't. Yeah, I don't want to kiss your
• 1:20:28
  ass here, John, but this is without a shadow, without in the
• 1:20:30
  top five favorite customers I've ever seen.
• 1:20:33
  It's. It's that good.
• 1:20:34
  I've got, I've seen a lot of customs, I've got a lot of
• 1:20:36
  customs. This is just incredible.
• 1:20:39
  It actually, it's just, it actually is not as finicky as it
• 1:20:44
  looks like it's sitting, it's standing on the desk for the
• 1:20:47
  last week when I was awake and back still standing on the desk.
• 1:20:50
  So it's, it's a solid build and that I, I had to Dremel a little
• 1:20:57
  bit the the neck piece to get a better fit on it.
• 1:21:01
  And, but now it fits and you don't even really need sticky
• 1:21:04
  tack. It just fits pretty well.
• 1:21:05
  I have a little bit of sticky tack just to kind of secure for,
• 1:21:09
  for Peace of Mind. But other than that, you had the
• 1:21:13
  Novian lean pauldrons and the kind of space kind of soup bit
• 1:21:20
  or whatever it is seems to work well there.
• 1:21:24
  The belt was interesting. So I caught this belt off a
• 1:21:30
  sentry Amanda little snake and stuck it on the front.
• 1:21:35
  And then I actually attached it around that samurai type skirt
• 1:21:40
  from Legions Mythic. And there's actually the belt
• 1:21:46
  doesn't go the full way around. So I got 2 pieces of holes from
• 1:21:49
  the cosmics and actually then attached them in there.
• 1:21:53
  So it's kind of there's two bits of holes around the side.
• 1:21:57
  I should have taken a picture of that, but yeah, so that one's
• 1:22:01
  fun. Can't wait to have that on
• 1:22:04
  display in November. So I just need to put it away
• 1:22:08
  safe until then. And yeah, so that's it.
• 1:22:14
  I wanted to show a couple more pictures because I was home in
• 1:22:17
  my hometown and I think these are mythic adjacent.
• 1:22:22
  So the town I grew up in is called Athen Rides W West of
• 1:22:26
  Ireland, and it's a medieval town.
• 1:22:28
  So this castle was built in 1240.
• 1:22:34
  It's actually called King John's Castle, but actually they
• 1:22:37
  discovered that's it was built 20 years after King John snuffed
• 1:22:42
  it. So it was built by someone
• 1:22:44
  called Miler de Birmingham, the Normans.
• 1:22:46
  It's called Athenry Castle now and they refurbished it in 2005.
• 1:22:50
  S up until then it was more of a ruin.
• 1:22:52
  It still looked like this, but you know, it was a bit more
• 1:22:54
  ruined. The roof was wasn't on it and it
• 1:22:58
  didn't have like a visitor center.
• 1:22:59
  Now you can go in. I think it costs like a fiber to
• 1:23:02
  go in and it does a there's a 20 minute video you can watch up in
• 1:23:08
  one of the rooms at the top and there's a big hall and that kind
• 1:23:10
  of stuff. But proper medieval castle.
• 1:23:12
  We used to as kids, there was a gate on it, but he used to be
• 1:23:14
  able to kind of get through as kids, we used to kind of go in
• 1:23:17
  there and kind of hang out if we didn't get caught.
• 1:23:19
  So total health and safety nightmare these days.
• 1:23:22
  But yeah. And this is a authorized walls
• 1:23:25
  towns and still has a bunch of the old walls because I built a
• 1:23:29
  whole wall around it. And so this is my kids then
• 1:23:34
  playing just along the river. This this is a little tower
• 1:23:36
  along the river that was there from I met them pose and this is
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  the kind of view from the park. So yeah, I, I, you don't you
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  kind of take the stuff for granted when you when you grew
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  up there, but you do yeah. And I mean, you have a bunch of
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  stuff like this in the UK and I'm sure.
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  Yeah. And I like you.
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  I took everything for granted growing up.
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  And then I started dating my my now wife.
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  And the first couple of times she came up to Anglesey, she's
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  just like, Oh my God, like that. You know, your house is like
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  over 1 hill and then there's a whole of snow down your mountain
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  range in front of you. And then you've got all these
• 1:24:08
  amazing castles. Yeah.
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  You just don't appreciate it when you when you grow up.
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  Yeah. And I also spent a day, a day in
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  Dublin or night in Dublin. On the way back we had an early
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  ish flight Friday so we stayed the Thursday in Dublin and I
• 1:24:22
  went to visit where the was. The last place I lived in Dublin
• 1:24:25
  was right along the sea in Sandy Mountain.
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  So just close to the Aviva Stadium actually, where they
• 1:24:32
  play the rugby and the foot and the football matches.
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  And yeah, I never appreciated this either.
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  I was basically, this is from the road, this picture.
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  There's the beach and the pullback towers, which is a
• 1:24:44
  famous landmark in Ireland. My wife is obsessed by them
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  because she used to, she worked there for a couple of months
• 1:24:53
  when I lived there and she used to get the train around to the
• 1:24:55
  other side. And it's after day 2.
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  She was like, is there more than one set of towers?
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  And I was like, no, she's like cool something.
• 1:25:04
  They really landmark. I can see them from the house
• 1:25:06
  and from work and yeah, that place looks so.
• 1:25:11
  Fascinating. No, sorry.
• 1:25:12
  I was going to say, I think that place looks fascinating, I said
• 1:25:14
  to you as you were looking at That building's really weird,
• 1:25:17
  really futuristic. Yeah, that's I think that's more
• 1:25:19
  new one. So these towers that don't I
• 1:25:21
  think they're out of Commission now.
• 1:25:22
  It's a it's an electricity used to be an electricity station.
• 1:25:25
  And now I think this, this place here is the is where the actual
• 1:25:29
  action goes on the kind of the cosmic legions look.
• 1:25:32
  Yeah, it really does. It looks like it could be some
• 1:25:35
  stuff. And this is from the street and
• 1:25:37
  the houses are basically the other side of the streets.
• 1:25:39
  You're literally a straight away from this.
• 1:25:40
  That tide goes out about a mile every day at some point.
• 1:25:44
  And you can just walk along as tons of people walk along with
• 1:25:47
  the kids. I played, my kid bought like a
• 1:25:49
  small miniature rugby ball from the shop because of course, you
• 1:25:53
  know, it's rugby country there, that part of Dublin.
• 1:25:56
  And we were just thrown on the beach for half an hour.
• 1:26:00
  It wasn't that warm but it wasn't freezing cold either.
• 1:26:02
  So super nice and totally didn't appreciate it when I lived there
• 1:26:07
  for the year and a half was the last place I lived in Dublin
• 1:26:11
  before I moved away in 2004. Maybe that's a long time ago,
• 1:26:17
  things have changed, but past the old department building was
• 1:26:21
  kind of house with a couple of apartments in it still there.
• 1:26:24
  It still looks the same. I think the rent was £700 a
• 1:26:29
  month back then, I think probably be about triple that
• 1:26:35
  now easily. So yeah, Oh well.
• 1:26:41
  How times have changed but I don't know.
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  And how was how was Anglesey rich?
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  It was good, yeah. A real mix of weather.
• 1:26:53
  The first day I was there was glorious.
• 1:26:55
  So I went on the beach, took a photograph of the my nemesis,
• 1:26:58
  the rock ball. And then the second day was
• 1:27:02
  horizontal, and I do mean horizontal rain the whole day,
• 1:27:05
  just literally from dawn till dusk, just non-stop.
• 1:27:09
  I took my mum out for for a for a birthday meal and I was
• 1:27:12
  something like grip steering wheel because the wind was just
• 1:27:13
  blowing the car all over the IT was so windy.
• 1:27:16
  It was awful. And then the following day was
• 1:27:18
  wall to wall sun again. That's sounds of Anglesey, but
• 1:27:23
  it had a very nice time. Yeah.
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  Yeah, we were lucky with the flights because we weren't
• 1:27:27
  lucky, but we're fine. But the days around the times
• 1:27:31
  that we weren't that we weren't flying.
• 1:27:33
  So the the other days that we were there, it was incredibly
• 1:27:36
  windy and I saw flights getting cancelled.
• 1:27:39
  And the day after we left and the even and after we left,
• 1:27:42
  there was some flights cancelled and we were in one of those
• 1:27:46
  small planes like the ones with the propellers that seats like
• 1:27:52
  7080 people. So it's like embarrassed your
• 1:27:58
  jets or something like that. Decent.
• 1:28:01
  I guess it's fine, but it it goes a bit slower.
• 1:28:04
  So to it's a 2 hour flight that would normally be a one hour, 20
• 1:28:08
  minute flight. And those are the first ones to
• 1:28:11
  get cancelled if there is bad weather.
• 1:28:13
  So yeah. See, I'm always fine with
• 1:28:17
  flying, but I'm not sure I can get on a plane with propellers
• 1:28:19
  but. They're still a solid plane,
• 1:28:23
  like it's not, you know, but they mostly use them for
• 1:28:26
  regional flights. So a lot of the flights between
• 1:28:28
  UK and Ireland that are not like Ryanair, are those smaller I've.
• 1:28:34
  Got one of them to France few years back.
• 1:28:39
  Other grand yeah just don't think about it right are we are
• 1:28:45
  we is that us for this week? Do you have any more revelations
• 1:28:48
  and to give out about? No.
• 1:28:51
  No, no, I think, I think we're good.
• 1:28:55
  Should we start our own political podcasts and get
• 1:28:57
  cancelled? You can't get cancelled anymore,
• 1:28:59
  so. I would love to.
• 1:29:01
  It's fair to say it wouldn't be safe for family viewing.
• 1:29:03
  If we start a political one, be it American politics, British
• 1:29:06
  politics, whatever, it wouldn't be safe for family viewing.
• 1:29:08
  We wouldn't be allowed into the States.
• 1:29:11
  Research and maybe we wouldn't have to do any research then.