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79 - Lente makes a boat game, while living on a boat · Der GameDev Podcast (Game Dev) (MP3)

• 0:00
  Hallihallo hallöchen. Eine kleine Meldung zwischendurch. Und zwar ist diese Folge auf Englisch. Denn Land ist zu Gast und Lente spricht kein Deutsch, aber ich wollte sie gerne mal interviewen und äh ab und zu machen wir mal ganz kleine Ausnahmen hier,
• 0:14
  Und äh dies ist eine davon,
• 0:17
  Genau, für die Patrions bedeutet das, ich werde diesmal kein Geld einziehen, weil ich war mir nicht sicher, ob das dann komisch ist, weil wenn man hier das unterstützt und eigentlich schon erwartet, dass es auf Deutsch kommt und vielleicht das deutsch, nee, das Englische noch nicht so,
• 0:31
  Gut flutscht, dass man das alles verstehen kann. Da wäre das ein bisschen komisch, deswegen äh ist diese Folge kostenlos sozusagen und ich hoffe, sie gefällt euch. Äh,
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  lasst einen lasst einen Kommi da. Äh jetzt geht's los.
• 0:51
  Hey Leute, Podcast it's it's new to me to do dis in English, wie only did it in English äh few times and we do it because a leente is year, hello alente.
• 1:03
  Very nice to have you and ähm.
• 1:06
  Nice to be here. My gots.
• 1:08
  I think I have to owor of interview you and this is only second time in Podcastform. Wright I only in my research found one other.
• 1:17
  Ja
• 1:19
  Nice.
• 1:21
  Ein Interview bei ähm.
• 1:27
  No, na, na, okay. Cool, ähm so for the people who know you, so you are lente, living on about making again äh about about and you also,
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  Was würde gern vor.
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  Area are run of iting is what I sail but ah yeah we bulding I guess, it's might be morac,
• 1:50
  It's quite lot of marks. Ja.
• 1:53
  Ich esse and you are and in individuell apple. Body you have been to a game development school, bud you quitted at some point because is that no I.
• 2:04
  Ja, I want twice to difference calls,
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  kurzen Teil mit Personal so,
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  ja good Stuff.
• 2:19
  Yes. Because I think it was not your your Meffet of learning or something right what a what a found about.
• 2:25
  I don't know, the first time it was very much just not the right school für me, like I was like IT,
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  This guys as game death or a first. I don't know, whatever, but I wasn't like a propper are game death school.
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  Ah and them, you know health stuff game up this wa and then last year,
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  twenty twenty two äh and love twenty twenty to, I joint, a nother college. Tho was way better äh game death is. It's in a breying and notlands,
• 3:01
  Äh Breda unifrost, die of a play sciences. And this is good but this is wear feel good out that. I like doing things my on way and score is just heart for me always have been.
• 3:15
  Ja
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  also,
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  äh Triple A and Journical big come to you like that. So yeah, I don't know.
• 3:35
  I founded interesting because you made the post about the Breda School äh where you talk to boot and intake signment. Ähm dis äh you made a little game, let me sento the link äh but ab.
• 3:50
  Nice. I love it.
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  And äh I just what a wondering because I am not familiar with the turm in take as Simet. Ist es a did you have to do this, as an application? Ah okay.
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  Itze pretty good school and I stricts. So they really wants their looking for People that or really motherfader. Really
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  do this ähm and still a lot of People quite in first your, you like that's really hard to stop with coach is and stuff at leaser and it list. Ähm you don't number what it was,
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  We had the make again. Just like two the son,
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  hells great, I'm really proud of it, like I didn't make to graphics for it. I stole art and like change this a low bat to make it all fit together and look nice.
• 4:41
  Äh okay, Wort des STL, sorry, is it, is it a Pokemily ähm.
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  Library,
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  Sound is well, I don't know. And I not trade eather.
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  So, it's different from my unity and stuff. We have like it interface. With dis should yourself text. Äh I can draw images and you can change images and stuff and scop it's one.
• 5:16
  Okay, never hört auf Dead before, supercool. Already learn something. Nice and ähm so äh and,
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  so so you van to the School and then you had to sit down there, make the game and after that they would the side if your werf you not?
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  I have to make the game at home. Ja. I shit, I had like a weak because I was late applying.
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  Ah like off course. Like you sheep people takements for it. That and not to break but like usly it solom more relax. Like I was up day and nights like working on this intake,
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  So
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  Ja I mean.
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  Ja. Intro festiful at discollege, so that made a worldfreund, like those a great like week of my life. Ah just like intense and like a partying and doing actives and you had hows going.
• 6:13
  Ah
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  Okay, hier ist ten, patch is of a how the School ist ran. Es war so,
• 6:30
  Anti-Lametic I was like. Oh, first day, I want to jump and to in Engineer something and then it was like very birthic for the first Date was a bit do.
• 6:40
  Ja
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  I like this come, yeah, I like this go. I do rock commande it for it people that ehm. And this very international is love so if realisining. Äh you are not from the lince, like you can we can't where. It's nice. They dos nice is all to go city.
• 6:57
  Ja.
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  Äh difficial slike programming are and then design and I believe in the second here of school you are get to work together to make one big game. Like the whole year, you just make again, with update Crew.
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  So, jetzt really britber an new for uh they industry a guess for working another company without are people.
• 7:26
  I don't get to the point to was a second year and like quid after few one. Ja.
• 7:32
  M and I always a I out so learn that you create your own Engine there
• 7:38
  IPhone Tweets open GL and Dany really start fom scratch like äh rotating little polygons and doing ever thing yourself and.
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  Ähm,
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  It's not an Engin in that's are like you all these tools and star features make and engined the work for one game. Das it so is kind of for mix.
• 8:09
  Ananas sagt jetzt,
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  Thiraty People teas just very good project for this one project are.
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  Äh Spoiler äh your current game your working on. Äh by the way very you
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  I just say it for the listen us, so that they can get excited, you just the finished your kick starter very successful, we will talk about it äh hopefululator, but äh for this project use unity. And I was like oh man
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  Ähm,
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  Hm
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  I mean, no I like can. Ähm yeah, you so like open chosecle and you can me nice, if you want that like control. But everything just takes a lot more time. And least for me,
• 9:08
  I'm technical and I know unity happy using you frees. So. Ilse the mose lud.
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  Äh choice for me, if I actually wanted to make and release again.
• 9:22
  Ah, so used unity even before the bridder University. Ah.
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  I sorry and like twenty fifteen twenty-sixteen a sather Miking Games, is a harvy,
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  Ähm so ihr Quad abonph, so.
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  Okay, that's nice. So, and you do ähm I learn that you do development on your boat. But you also do it äh on different places for example you visited just recent lead ähm speld collective it. In Sweden.
• 10:00
  I don't know und say is a place very game deves live together pretty much stage just work under on projects. I mean there some teams is well, but is not secious People working on them project.
• 10:21
  Breakface is just, you know, ready to stuff. Ähm yeah, it's nice. I don't know, they plane a lot of activity and stuff, so e really hoped me,
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  Balkon, but a really hope me for a bit overcome the lookines of äh bling and indeead solo indeed are specially.
• 10:39
  Mhm.
• 10:43
  Ah my free weeks. Maybe a late alongher. Yeah long our three weeks. Warum musst du month?
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  Just for Thelisseners in appesside sixty six we head Belinda Diesling hier entschied holt as about this babe collective back then,
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  Äh der äh äh back they learn the about displace in den Sounds, so cool.
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  Äh
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  was,
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  a little bit distracting the there so many nice our people der.
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  Ah, it's always so how to say like with making this game any game. It's so much,
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  sind downs and dings, go way fastray think and a longery think. So said to say but,
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  I did wake up and sixt story every day to go running with James the own north spell ähm and then do breakfast and got to work great after,
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  so
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  Ähm ja, no I think it's a good play so be äh for Productifity for sure.
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  Ja and äh I you planning to go again.
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  Ja
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  I don't know might become pocke. Butter plans to go back for Winter and say like a few months,
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  Also ja.
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  Yeah some Point I ja I have it least äh to go, there's very just son,
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  Ja äh,
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  I mean we allready hurt, you know, you you ähm restorating your boot and doing a game instaflec that. Ähm so always äh already you are quite busy. By the also found a nother side hassel you had,
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  or have I don't know is shop. But is shop is not exist animal. But I wanted to know. What's what's ging on, because you can find ähm
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  Image ist auch für T-Shirts T-Shirt.
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  Organe.
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  My family with my mom in my brother. And I was feeling very stock with spirit with my Game.
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  Äh so I figured,
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  I will try blender, ani me deal project and a really like thought to and now and there figureds,
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  ist einfach,
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  like this. So I made a start to shorts,
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  I just cap working in the game and I don't really to art a camp,
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  so
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  I don't know like production centers acros the world.
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  So, we order T-Shirt through me for them really it spring down the mand,
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  Äh sorry only make a T-Shirt when some our sit, which is already gain. Äh and they nay try the find a production center plus to you.
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  Ein.
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  Ja. Ähm so for our lesines. I can äh show a little image now because you made a very very cute
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  Little Boat wird äh is dark and water a little bit west see and over grown by plansride and you made the very cute äh Phone case auto with.
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  My Mom hassed. My Mom gerade and she stor you sus the cakes.
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  Supercut. Ähm but do also have a T-Shirt. There it says worlds okay is the veloper.
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  Oh das ist die schön. Ja now I din't start that I in the store.
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  Ähm,
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  like me what it sharen. And and all these but sorry show up like get this T-Shirt here, got this T-Shirt there. So now wing good my name it's a lot of just
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  das T-Shirt and it's it's must up. It's so real it's yeah that's just how it's I guess.
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  Because I mean, you know, it would be totly äh äh find a futurester make the T-Shirt there. But I was a bit
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  Currious about the discription text, because manit the discription text äh of this particular ähm Shop,
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  Äh T-Shirt and I only have some äh Sweaters and now wanted T-Shirt okay, but then,
• 16:13
  Äh in der in der Laterpart Sets it says Witch Explains, weil Lunia,
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  such a Major Boost in sales last month. So I was like who is Luna Suttonly and then it a next centans, it sass marrel, was interested in how women the west that version of themself. So who's Mary Satonly so der it seems,
• 16:37
  I think it's completely AI Generation. It.
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  Yes, yes, ich sollte is randomer Stories. It's really strange.
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  Okay.
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  Is where the inothis weared.
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  Ja.
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  Mhm.
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  Der Blender äh Designer Main. Ja great fun sending of the Shop as of like thousands really exciting. Ah bah it also just kind for ups,
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  the interest. Wasn there and I don't know acult capid up and you are they had that na, just focused sonder gaming than.
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  Ja ja bei der,
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  Look at Howard Setup. Äh for for my little Project. White now I'm doing. It's the same that i just want to learn how
• 17:27
  Äh back and looks like like how dosit work to upload a game to steam. Insta vielleicht that so,
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  It's just just nice to, ja, every learning experience like that so. It not losts time, I think.
• 17:41
  I just you's the low bot and that sas obload sIp and that works really well. But it's only to gavights ähm so if your game is over to gakes dann it get's compocted, ja.
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  Er wird all äh dies ähm die Skepsis. I don't know how it was for you, but it course me so much time to just make all the graphics for the steam page, you know just a little buners and poah.
• 18:09
  It's just funny. I don't know, it. You have to learn how to like steamworks as what is cold äh,
• 18:22
  I mean a works and he has a lot a features in stuff, but is not the most us a friendly. So, ja.
• 18:28
  Ja I ähm,
• 18:34
  So wie Menschen, der Deliver and I was wondering,
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  Äh
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  Worte PC I using like there do get your energy from like the power for the pC and
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  how your back up systems work just I dinner it like boat it if the boat has a hole.
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  To entswer questions in order and not get last too much ähm sings,
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  Oh Gott, time is so hart. If humans maybe half a year. I use a macbook äh with one of the new this they amone and it's really anergy affistians. It's very lights zock and take it afuer with me ans really nice.
• 19:20
  Ähm I do have so liners. But am like us in member now I'm just connected to,
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  Ähm,
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  Power so I just you start and I be here for it of course.
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  Weil ja das darf situation. Soll's it's not to different from the house are in apartment? Äh in that sense anyway.
• 19:51
  Ah okay, okay and ähm I was just wonder wing uh about the back up, because I mean,
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  Ja, because äh äh like äh you usoally you are very about what happens, wenn someone steals, the macbook awesome feel like that. But when you on the boat. I am magic dead
• 20:11
  Der ist a potential like image, der ist ein water coming you know.
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  Äh na I mean if there's water coming in that's like god's up to my duesk for My Love Doppels, like I have way was is you stand my love,
• 20:29
  Like then mightod has be has sonk. Like Denim I'm scruod, like I mean not scrood, but yeah, the would be a,
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  äh really bad. Ja, no, I mean have my project and get help, I have a lefted up, I have a beC here ähm I don't know.
• 20:47
  Ja, Armin Gitter bist du gute Backup-System. So, you can get all the data, Justin Caste, der Laptop Drops and the Water, something then.
• 20:54
  Ja. Ah nee nee.
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  Okay, by the bye think ähm actually apple heißt es Time Machine thing white we can restore the system wäre easy lior something like that, like all toda.
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  I want be stressed, I don't know, but this, yeah.
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  Okay. Okay. Äh ja, okay, nice,
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  I'm I'm just ready to my list because of course äh lot of a dot of questions. It's äh it some somes had to judge ähm,
• 21:37
  Ah
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  Oh ja, eine so nice.
• 21:47
  I don't ever. I just by you can usk any thing you want about I love talking about about and ähm.
• 21:54
  Ja ähm I like äh sometimes to talk about finances.
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  Außer Mitte und Mitte.
• 22:01
  Ne, it's just it one of the questions ast my safe for like. How much dos a both cost, you know, because just saying, hey, I live on the bot now is like, okay that's so cool, but ähm.
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  Ähm,
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  thousand years,
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  It's are the really the pance so what about to get and what sate it's in but my ten meators long.
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  Mieter Salon Bowl.
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  I don't have the Terms in English for what typ of body spirit second board.
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  So
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  Äh
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  more about the kip about.
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  Ähm you just fine spots äh in a horse somewhere.
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  Ah my friends, had a sport in Rotterdam. I believe you paid like to hundred and fifty years a month.
• 23:24
  So jetzt nothing to crazy ous in the center of Rotherm. Is el squan Days.
• 23:30
  Ähm I don't like water down, but that's another story, heed and eather, so he left. So all in arts, not that expensive, if you do it right ähm ani really hope that my mom and me are,
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  Pretty hundy, like runa fiding the bowl, like that safed als safe me all lot incost.
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  Like if i world to by the spot in it's containe or like new or elever with beth thirty thousand inside of ten.
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  Also.
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  Ja I can havely recommento howlisanus to check your Newsletter or other socials because there the asame nice ähm äh Fotos. How you,
• 24:22
  renovierte Boot und Haut, was looking before and after and äh it's it's äh äh äh it's very impressive. And ähm I have a question about it is very because,
• 24:31
  Äh solo and you also renovativ the boot. I amagin that one of these activities could be a full time job for severl months and you do it, äh both at the same times a it
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  impressive and I want just wanted to know how you manage your your time.
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  Ähm,
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  Äh so Thred Week.
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  And together with my mom. So she help a lot in sheese lift on. And shee does now so a lot about it so yeah having not a really hope the like. Ja, I don't know, äh,
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  ja
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  I really priorise like,
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  Give me so oft the time and making it so much relaxed if possible of girls it's thing is trust for you and in the like world is many com and that but I try not to äh,
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  Overwork in der crazy hours, like a lot a people do.
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  Hm.
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  I just quin,
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  Äh so I didn't for few months, yeah so I happen is i saved up money. So I save up like,
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  Like Living Pinot with my mom, keiner von my birds and you know.
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  Bad Afrange Money, Dead Runner, rhenauts and äh I got it jove and and leader I did tick so kick sorry when's well and,
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  ja
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  Ja, Armin äh at went well it went I think free times as well is the goal right.
• 26:39
  Ja,
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  Ja, I mean for a game fand thousend Euros which was the main, like day is your goal. It's not huge, äh it's crazy to me, that that's not concital huge but,
• 26:56
  Ah so, ja, I don't know, what that sast, but I'm ja I'm super happy about there is so, yeah I'm super happy.
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  Ja ähm.
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  Ja, ja, ja, ja.
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  Okay, äh äh bitch is of course äh nice, but is also means, you have a more work now.
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  Strechcall before hand so I tright to keep a realistic.
• 27:32
  Ah ja, it's all prepared before hand what a kick sorry, like you really have to because storn the campaigne,
• 27:38
  It's stress for in you just wanna preparable for Hand so. Yeah, I have the more ready. Not the fell of you ot of girl spontan.
• 27:48
  I have aut like. A thispoint, I want I have this such going.
• 27:53
  Ja, ja, ja, ne, einfach so ähm I was is wondering because ähm,
• 27:58
  Äh I don't know if you have head and release date in mind in the past. But the I guess it is surly event a further away in the future further äh äh.
• 28:10
  It's always mothing further away into the future. Äh yeah I have some internal like release states then I am four,
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  Ähm,
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  but
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  Ja im im,
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  Getting Stresshoud enough in madely life,
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  So ja.
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  Ja ähm,
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  I'm I'm really happy äh for you that everything works out so will, because ähm you game luoks great and get's a lot of Good Response and then the Kickstarter and,
• 28:51
  I just the magen, this is something ähm witch give su äh a lot of security instability. Just see in that you know, äh it it's it's now white.
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  Ja, Sherly, yes. Ähm it's it's gott and better. But I stolking for really in secure and like it can feel like its. It's a gonna follow born any second. Ähm,
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  Ja, appro lesen.
• 29:17
  Ja äh das ist äh Classical äh Imposter-Syndrom, that you know äh so I'm times äh people feel like on know, it's some point, yeah. I mean we all have it.
• 29:37
  I know I should just beed conference and believe everyself and,
• 29:42
  Games of Gond be around. Ein Games-Renner and I have a unique,
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  If you will Younique points in in American. I don't know. Ähm ja, so it's find, but yeah, I have a lot it's of like it Creeps up,
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  if Benefiz going well.
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  Ähm,
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  Äh
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  So
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  äh
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  ist.
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  Eminen, italiens, but yeah I'm look you, I have a lot to for back on and I live reachy so,
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  the worst second happen is and really all about for me, anyway ähm and I know have the feeling i'm give an up some job because.
• 31:01
  I had and release, started like any care yet, so you are just gonna been lost last in life upental this game soff.
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  Ist,
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  Ist Campy very coming. Das ist exactly what I do äh usually is well to com myself down.
• 31:27
  So bevor Quinning School I asthma soft that question. I was again happen,
• 31:35
  A da today so week. Like up the Supermarket like some minimum which jub and then I would be able to keep myself a from.
• 31:46
  A lot to for back on like I can't life for my mom if I want to ähm we are really and you said I'm good turms.
• 31:54
  Mhm.
• 31:55
  I wonder, if your decision to a live on the boat and äh vivid your just mantion is also abiter. Was it,
• 32:11
  Solo in die Deaf and you head to cout down the costa a little bit.
• 32:16
  So first informals it's I love Bills. Then it's unfery vougal and like ähm,
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  I was it's well with me. Even if fir,
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  to work in the company for some outs. I would still want to try to live fair to please of the safe for other money. Ähm just money is always good the half and,
• 32:45
  Ja, we give you power against. I give you freedom. Äh is a better a tom.
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  I always like think like money can't by happenes, but it can by free them.
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  Okay by the I guys eventif you would not have ähm be äh er solo develop port now you to just still would have gun to the boat because it's just. Yeah, okay.
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  Yes, yes, yes. Ja, sorry Love in your.
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  Hm, okay, okay.
• 33:28
  And äh some People.
• 33:31
  Kim Racomonday like for any Entrepreneur like Lawing your cause of living give you so much more space to which you really one, per so, linkes.
• 33:48
  Because Isaded you aposted about your Internet ähm äh Wi-Fi äh so so you have on you bot you have wight?
• 33:56
  Äh I mean not quint. I have my mobble date Afrina.
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  Sorry,
• 34:11
  Ist es enough for you because plants are imagin that game to with oft in isly you know watching tons of äh Tutorialhelds sind lauting, Data Down and Abend, so äh äh at liest
• 34:24
  The German for example to German äh contracts the have äh quite limited data sometimes. Sometimes only of you gigs
• 34:31
  And and then you have to pay extra so I match and did good be very for for game develoment.
• 34:38
  Ja.
• 34:45
  Which is most times that's modern enough and with work. Like with game death even never reach that limit,
• 34:58
  And then I have to download it in little jung speakers after this twenty give about you have to refill for free, but stilly have to refall in the up like to get abouts other time. Tour fights appuse for them.
• 35:11
  Äh sorry, don't does I'm shady you like ute network stuffer, whatever.
• 35:15
  Mhm mhm mhm.
• 35:16
  Äh but orange, ja,
• 35:18
  I i look into stalling for instance like cellulite Internet, which is really go, but it so lot expensive and i just I just has and been as as very like the more they has may finds fire.
• 35:31
  Ah okay, interesting.
• 35:39
  It's funny. Oh, how ever watching movies sometimes, it's also,
• 35:47
  Ähm,
• 35:51
  Und äh das really one and we gott into is shoes with day internat because it you stop what ay,
• 35:59
  Ja, so little irr, you feel little, ja. But, ah, I don't know about the so thinks ja.
• 36:08
  Okay, hier in France, we have Fiber,
• 36:12
  Oh, der eine super Phase, eine super äh super, super, super. But actually, sometimes, wenn we watch Netflix, der Resolution goes down to,
• 36:21
  to a thing, weil Note, du can go as low with the Resolution, you only season,
• 36:34
  To be one is my expectations, where a little bit high so.
• 36:38
  Ja ja.
• 36:40
  Ja, okay. Ähm you started with development game toveloment, kind of early you you already sat and I found some posted you did some games of your water in the Pastright.
• 36:53
  Oh oh, jetzt.
• 36:55
  And ähm I was just interested because you set äh in somewhere I don't know exactly where that you did a Coding,
• 37:05
  And you water did the art? Right? And now you do ever thing? So, I just wanted to know how a how a how what is.
• 37:14
  I mean I don't,
• 37:17
  I do art but on a very high level. Like are use date up backs äh and a fuck not datax. For like three models. So, I just title together äh with this purges anyway.
• 37:31
  Ändern dark on the project with my bother,
• 37:35
  äh heaten, like the who Art direction if unaccord. Like emotions a heavy project but yeah, hid that all love it and äh,
• 37:45
  Ja
• 37:46
  Ja ähm,
• 37:47
  I was just because I ähm in the podcast. I think it was this one Podcast, ein Männchen, bevor you sat art is not your strenk. But,
• 37:57
  Now you do a lot of äh äh boot Renovation and I think the like your said, white you are very crafty äh and you do äh a lot of Cool interio design and I was just wondering,
• 38:09
  ähm it was, just interest into me, that you say yourself about yourself, that art is not your strength.
• 38:17
  And I was this in my head I was like okay denn she has to be also good in art because äh you don't so beautiful interior design instop like that.
• 38:26
  I think, I have salted myself short in a Past. Ähm I doo think, I have a deasant I,
• 38:36
  Like as much is you can say that about myself without sonning like can as wever,
• 38:47
  But am not really skilld at any art form. Like a can tral, i can't model, I can't do any if this,
• 38:56
  So yeah, so äh ja, äh ja, äh ja.
• 39:01
  Okay.
• 39:03
  I wanna say you like I could provoly ever wanted to but ah,
• 39:08
  The Interec Sisters not there enough. I don't know. I have my moments. I have my be reals. I'm really and to making art.
• 39:19
  And äh like for your game right now is Art what is the partwitch is the most fun for you, like the coding what asign oder Art or and know.
• 39:31
  Aber,
• 39:43
  Ähm,
• 39:46
  Mostaful I just like
• 39:48
  Building Stoff I think. Dosen even have to be a game, I like building stuff. Andre prenoirship 14 really well, äh because your building something is world your building a brand for yourself you building a business. Ähm,
• 40:03
  Einer find der really von der really exciting. Just growing in girwing and new things happening all the time things getting crazy your and skaling up and you that's really fund to me.
• 40:15
  Hm, okay, interesting. Yes, äh because I found this ähm wait, we are that today found is Post. Something abo,
• 40:27
  äh I mean I Actually Titten want to ask to girls and because was not äh Iso tovelopment releted maybe, but you the actually the set in the Podcast ähm that your interested in the Businessside of the things and the was like
• 40:41
  Oh, okay. Äh.
• 40:43
  I think like ason in the,
• 40:47
  you have to be an unsre pretty much. I don't love the Termin Entrepreneur I mean I don't ated, but on the in the not, it get's memed, like äh in Dutch we have Unternehmer,
• 41:02
  good be like someone that under take things, soon that,
• 41:08
  Das and I like the lot better. Ähm but,
• 41:13
  Ja
• 41:27
  Ja, I don't know, that's come to big you can get up publisher and then they do it ähm aha, you.
• 41:35
  Ja, but you are not planet to go the publishe for the project white I found the Twitter tweat, wer ist Set no?
• 41:43
  No, I had a lot a people retrold, but ähm know, not for now, when you way.
• 41:49
  I don't think aha. I really like doings myself. Even if it doesn't got meas for in short turm. I ya, really like cragings of ot myself.
• 42:02
  Hier,
• 42:07
  Engagement on the on the Social Media Apps, now the Kickstarter Edoanzow I am für Publisher I mean
• 42:16
  Evenses very in your case, right.
• 42:19
  Ja ähm,
• 42:23
  pretty over. Like dicken hope with the money sad of thinks.
• 42:28
  When you comes to marketing. There not that green usually. And and there's a lot it are good and,
• 42:37
  Oh, oh, other things to green for but like marketing. Ah,
• 42:43
  I full like a lot of in these look at epublishure and think like gray do the marketing like but I don't thing that's the case, I,
• 42:53
  ja
• 42:54
  Ja und,
• 43:07
  so
• 43:08
  Jetzt,
• 43:16
  If day wante get on board with you, they already for like they good earn.
• 43:31
  So bet like so five for ship bye is maybe like yeah only the good Games by publish first and then day.
• 43:45
  Ja, ja, ja, it would be nice if more energy in the small titles really marketing you know, so that they can actually gro, grobig, ja.
• 43:56
  So you do ever thing yourself ist the something,
• 44:01
  Ähm I mean you you just sadid you love to bild things and your intersted in the Business site. But,
• 44:11
  es kostet.
• 44:20
  Ja, I mean I try to of hoit Social Media for a personal years. I mon be real, with some friends which
• 44:28
  Von,
• 44:30
  Ähm ja I trete social media for personal stuff. But for work. I think it's really exciting. I got to share my work with the world and it
• 44:41
  Omas bekommst. Das Mini-Game where I make a new feature and then I can think like all how well what a stop witter.
• 44:51
  Mhm.
• 44:52
  Ja
• 44:59
  in a lows meet to grow my brands, my business, a long side working on the game. Yeah for meas a great äh combination.
• 45:09
  YouTube-Video,
• 45:15
  äh what's the name is it free and dos it's still work?
• 45:22
  Äh Buffer yes and yes. So is goldbuffer. Äh it does have a free Plan and I am on the freeline. Ähm it's for most case is the free plan is fine. So yeah I care recommanda.
• 45:35
  Okay, nice. Thank you fote tip. Mhm.
• 45:39
  I don't know äh I ust to be more hand son, which social media, like stricts, like a girl afterple something every day. Ah but now days I focused more so unders quality offer connecty.
• 45:53
  Ah I really just let it be a for a maybe a month sometimes. Like neverbose anything and then when I have something good to show all make a balls and then it's doll that's well, so it's fine if you.
• 46:06
  Ah shit, I'm gonna side track, but for coming too social media, like,
• 46:13
  sorry new, it is good the post of reday because you could learn a lot about what works and want does and then a fancer way,
• 46:21
  anyway, yeah. Boffers, Behingrate ist fresh have the started when I was post in the load. Äh just to the stress out of my mind like I would prippe.
• 46:31
  Like abounce of pose in one sitting in one day and then just schedu with over the next weak and just. I don't think about any more.
• 46:41
  Der Social Media Day.
• 46:55
  But äh proble what be good, but ah, it's it's all energy, right so year.
• 47:04
  In der Ortswoche problem von mysite that I don't know what to talk about any more, you know? I do beginning, you show the game and some in some features again what shoday show now. I already show that do you have to same problem.
• 47:18
  I think that my beauty case, yes, yes, I am ehd like the end of the Fall appment and the thing some making now,
• 47:27
  und as exciting. I mean there will be a few more exciting think. But yeah, not this much any mores before.
• 47:35
  Ja. Okay, sorry, you spen ähm Quitte time at the beginning äh into social media. I was also one doing how much time to spend for your Kickstarter, the preparation like everything.
• 47:48
  I mean as with everything,
• 48:00
  I think like a from month of maybe along more, but yeah and that's really short like people recommand like,
• 48:09
  Sonne.
• 48:18
  Ja. Äh schauen's gut. I mean that sounds like a good äh investment and was successfuls, so äh perfect.
• 48:26
  Ja, I mean is not just,
• 48:28
  da hat man,
• 48:36
  like it's not just the monta work. It's a lot a work. But ähm be worth it for sure.
• 48:42
  Dad you make physicaliv for the Kickstarter.
• 48:46
  Äh
• 48:55
  Oh and a soaw that you had the call with Rami Ismail,
• 49:00
  äh
• 49:15
  ja
• 49:17
  Awesome talking them he's super nice. But no i can talk about äh content of the call.
• 49:28
  Hed you start it was a but idea, I think so.
• 49:36
  Das,
• 49:45
  Ja
• 49:54
  Ja.
• 49:56
  Ei pedium like twenty-five box are something. Äh first time. I usually it's a long more.
• 50:04
  I just I don't have a all the money. So äh yeah no i consercting because I know he knows äh stuff about the industry and I need it some info ähm about industry stuff.
• 50:17
  Ähm,
• 50:30
  I mean,
• 50:33
  Das mobile.
• 50:38
  There's to there's one that is a clown, it's liquid all your spils and stuff down is a clown and then there is a nother one, that I thought was accone, but actually was made before,
• 50:51
  So, ja.
• 50:53
  Okay, but the one äh the one very very get earth bit looks very much like like you are the both as very Simula. Ähm.
• 51:01
  Ja, jetzt jetzt Funny. I don't, ja, I don't really care about it dom much. It's a compliments me.
• 51:09
  Ja
• 51:17
  I was is wondering ähm was I reason not to put your own little boat in the game.
• 51:23
  Ähm I've it too much. That yeah that could of been cour just I had in,
• 51:41
  Buddy I guess you could say you have something instarters something. Ähm,
• 51:47
  Now, it just have fall about about I like to idea is that's very interesting. I cure is of it's to wait now to change a because it's keiner von the Front. Liquid Everything like,
• 52:00
  lowbouth in the colour and.
• 52:09
  Äh
• 52:21
  Just if if some People want to give in extra Dollar to the devel up by you know.
• 52:26
  In your case maybe it could be that the DLC just contense you on the boat. Then you can by.
• 52:31
  Ja, nur say this because ähm it was Thomas at äh Future Friends there a marketing,
• 52:44
  He is a just to me to make a base sursh of again and then a deluxion.
• 52:51
  And the delux version with be a low morks vansive, but it will have like Well papers or like soundtracks and so like this.
• 53:00
  Äh
• 53:06
  a small game, that doesn't gost the much. And I that this what to cake sorther äh like a so the base game at seven yours and then,
• 53:15
  äh Deluxe Fashion at twelve äh and a work always great, yeah. So, I don't know, that's easy to do with team.
• 53:25
  Oh nein.
• 53:26
  Ja. Actually I'm thinking about Doing it just to learn how to Setup it deal see for steam.
• 53:36
  I mean if you do please lot me know, because ya im twenty figur that out this or.
• 53:42
  Also,
• 53:46
  after release my gamement at sampointed ville not saled all anymore. I was thinking about trying to satter highest price possible. Like I just want to no how much,
• 53:58
  How high can you get with steam? Can you sad to wan Million Dollar? Ist es possible? Oh.
• 54:03
  Thousand Dollar.
• 54:15
  Hm, okay, Ivery try to beat that with my game it some point.
• 54:18
  Ja,
• 54:26
  This is my last Glass of Drinking warrior that I have. I have this like two leader äh it's five. Maybe's five like five Leader like äh drinking like Barrel thing,
• 54:42
  Ähm,
• 54:51
  Ähm,
• 55:02
  Water, but it's not it five to drink out of. So that's for doing discius and washing my hands and you know cleaning and stuff. Yeah.
• 55:12
  Kampfrom for this Tank.
• 55:15
  Ähm also for my Namens House. I run a really long guard and house from,
• 55:22
  Ah, mein Mom shower. And then a run it outside to,
• 55:28
  Mh
• 55:34
  about ähm and I could have filters installed and a great of a system where a take water out of the River to drink,
• 55:43
  But my Bojsters and half that and I would have to find away to instart and stuff. So that's just want way about is different from house, we are evering just works and you,
• 55:55
  Energys once water and here you have to think about how in my gonna get the water here in a feens way. Ähm.
• 56:08
  Diesen.
• 56:12
  Jetzt ist doof, but it's really. It's a heater. So it's for heating.
• 56:18
  Oh yes.
• 56:19
  But I don't used any more. Äh but out for like of regular guz for now äh for for cooking stuff.
• 56:28
  Äh sorry, this is for heading, I know have ähm an Ericle, like a heat pump, eargo it's electric and it's really efficient and,
• 56:40
  Guess the place really wan. Like maybe to warm meating. So.
• 56:44
  I mean that's good to here because from your from iFlock is say you said that you your little ähm agasse. Heather go you two sixteen degrees inside but that's not superduper warm.
• 56:58
  No, ja, ja, so,
• 57:02
  Now, it was in the great success, I don't know. It's a I love the thing, it's grain ähm but also uses D so and I am tranted for its äh being leppen it on back forsial fuy you.
• 57:15
  Vor so FUS is uff. So does another reason do. Switch to electric heading.
• 57:21
  Ah, nice.
• 57:26
  And it's super it's a lucturey to me really like these all heater I had to lights in the morning any winters it will be,
• 57:35
  Super record. Supercard. I have to get out of Bell in the cult. Live of thing äh maybe got back into be again for have now a wait into is like a little warm again.
• 57:47
  But with the are go I can just leave it on a low templeur and that's fine,
• 57:54
  or i can have it on a Timer, where out amoic see down. So that's a luxturey to me, that's really yeah, that's,
• 58:02
  Afters a lot remote here. I'm gonna toing a down now because is will hot.
• 58:07
  Wow!
• 58:09
  Ja
• 58:18
  Oh, by the way, I know that you know Andy, from Twitter, you know he's doing about is well.
• 58:28
  Fantasy, that you beth you take your bowls and you drive somewhere and then you are next touch out and then to develop something together.
• 58:39
  I love be a good more klingst.
• 58:41
  Oh yes, just asky myself ist hier baut ähm äh Villet be able to drive around and is the something you plant to.
• 58:51
  Äh Big Si. Ähm yes,
• 58:59
  like a pro, maybe end of a pro, in the helpes of goting a new Engineer start because the enginie have now is äh,
• 59:09
  It's not doing great and it's our beclem custom money to repar. So,
• 59:19
  And maybe and electric Moder Engine, you are call the morder of its selectric and electric moder with been option.
• 59:29
  Boah, dann ja,
• 59:37
  and then in sommer I do hope to äh truff around alarm, so.
• 59:43
  Ah
• 59:46
  AW Talking about getting to the next willig or travelling tour Nother City or like.
• 59:54
  Ey just all pright in Atlance, yeah or maybe if and friends,
• 1:00:02
  But not on the see and not on the ocean. My boots not fit for this and never well, that time of about this just not soul it for äh Ocean,
• 1:00:14
  Also.
• 1:00:15
  Sound super exciting. Maybe A Romantisi äh,
• 1:00:33
  but you all ready it reality ähm because I wait the post from you there you went out to the like and then the engine stop working.
• 1:00:44
  Jetzt, jetzt. I very short lifts. Very awesome adventure. So I have been affording.
• 1:00:52
  You sing about drive in the bout because I new the engls bad. Like it always works body was just any would was bad,
• 1:01:01
  In Sommer,
• 1:01:06
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• 1:01:16
  I stay the night äh in some our place why myself is green. It a back home and the next week I want to go again.
• 1:01:24
  By myself and I wants, but I was at the start of a storm in the notlands a pretty bad storm,
• 1:01:32
  Äh so the anker on the kind a fit äh and I started drifting of and,
• 1:01:40
  Ja
• 1:01:43
  NFL ich liebe äh because the engined field ähm People head to come and rescue me äh like äh put a rope on the boats and,
• 1:01:55
  Po meet the safe hours. I guess äh so yeah. Then is ween I lovely week,
• 1:02:01
  Äh in was a great experience so ja ähm happy all around.
• 1:02:09
  Worstes, like a professional service your just call, when you have a problemores this.
• 1:02:15
  E was professional, better was very lucky to go,
• 1:02:20
  Department. So I just be them hundred years for guess,
• 1:02:27
  I also,
• 1:02:31
  I know we will have to pay all lots probably and I didn't have so don't have insirings only gold are whatever. Yeah, we'll got really lucky animal some good friends and yeah it's great.
• 1:02:44
  Ja, I mean we we can slowly come to the entered don't want to stile too much of your time. Ähm I was just wondering because I not is something,
• 1:02:55
  Ähm.
• 1:03:10
  Äh ja, it does have and electric.
• 1:03:15
  Äh that's side year anyway, like you upgrade your soul of rundels to get more speed. Äh which,
• 1:03:23
  But I don't know. Äh the ya, that's some purpose speakers,
• 1:03:28
  Game any would be very wor like smoking äh stuff and making a lot of noise. But also,
• 1:03:38
  I do believe in electric buts äh electric buts morders. Äh it's very bastle, even for a bigger like small ships it's possible. Äh so yeah, I just wanna to where I don't know.
• 1:03:54
  I just not this because ähm like and any usual game if there is äh something with moves. Then you usually here sound what years is very äh quitend, ja.
• 1:04:07
  I know all have to see from plate justing if a really batters people. But I have at it is lights like electric is like.
• 1:04:17
  Ähm Homing Sound of Most. So, I don't know. Bussi.
• 1:04:31
  And then I really focused on you know I shop and my ears and my eyes and then I look it all they's things and äh which are would you not do when I just platt the game, but four,
• 1:04:45
  Vanille but I actually like that ähm there is,
• 1:04:50
  Ja, it's it's focused on the on the Noise is the nature makes kind do. Then it's really nice. Hm and and for the develonment,
• 1:04:59
  Was der Sampfing wird.
• 1:05:06
  Oh my god.
• 1:05:11
  Äh yeah I will know any more. Is just one big now. Ja, I me know how game, really hastic in the lot longer then. I knishally wanted that you was hoping for like
• 1:05:25
  Again, my good finishing like six months.
• 1:05:28
  Badespin, one and a half year. Äh so yeah and it's still really small game, like one hour of they time,
• 1:05:38
  So, ah, whatever. Yeah, oncepacific,
• 1:05:47
  I don't know.
• 1:05:52
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• 1:05:57
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• 1:06:06
  Ja.
• 1:06:06
  Mhm.
• 1:06:12
  Ideas ja,
• 1:06:17
  making now is sort man new bus options this stuff. So yeah I am lucky in the others.
• 1:06:27
  Bud you have very nice like integrated you eye in the scense that you go to the boat and then you you äh I mean
• 1:06:34
  Okay wir Titan talk about your your game. So you you are little boat.
• 1:06:41
  And then you get money white? And you have all this nice little science for example thhen you said something ähm,
• 1:06:51
  äh
• 1:06:54
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• 1:06:57
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• 1:07:05
  So that's Gäste.
• 1:07:08
  Äh ähm,
• 1:07:14
  also,
• 1:07:20
  Implementing them and mixing something together puh to a lot of time for me.
• 1:07:25
  Ja, I ows forget about sounds, like all implement something and and I like, shit, it chill half sounds and so how or now.
• 1:07:36
  But also Edding sounds comme release that is thing. Like I'm so happy with some of the sounds. I at it's socgo, yeah.
• 1:07:47
  Oh and you had a big, ähm die Bate about this Looping Sound isn the tride?
• 1:07:52
  Ah I guys, I gues,
• 1:07:55
  Ja, sorry,
• 1:07:59
  one short sound repeating like a slow sound like.
• 1:08:04
  Ja, ja,
• 1:08:08
  Mhm. Mhm.
• 1:08:10
  I know have a sound which are like starts and then goes on,
• 1:08:25
  And it house a propper ending.
• 1:08:28
  Äh Sound of a fuck you and some like nasty like water goodling sound going in order see. And I know i works.
• 1:08:53
  Äh
• 1:08:57
  Äh now I get sonce from free sound that work I don't know, it's free sound or free sounds.
• 1:09:06
  I always trug with dead, the big big biggestring year.
• 1:09:09
  Ja free Sound, okay triple free sounds. Okay. Äh yeah I and know, I get all my ähm oh my ya sounds from there almare effects and stuff.
• 1:09:23
  Okay, das ist cool. Ähm also äh I do a little bit ofself at vertising here because I put your boat in my Game is real.
• 1:09:32
  Yes you did and it's socco aus so happy as really clean see.
• 1:09:40
  Because äh and that's goes to our listens again. If you want to follow lented and the game. Äh der ist discode which of course every ähm
• 1:09:48
  Link in der des äh Shownotes. And you should all go there and there they was a little art contest made balente and äh my contiption was basically that a
• 1:09:57
  In Pixelstyle in my Game,
• 1:10:01
  zu kennen,
• 1:10:12
  People Camp Player Demos.
• 1:10:13
  Der Demo ist up in will be up for ever. If if it's in my Hands.
• 1:10:18
  So äh es a last question, I would äh like to mh if if you want to you can äh,
• 1:10:26
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• 1:10:33
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• 1:10:47
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• 1:10:55
  I'm giving at five to,
• 1:10:58
  Ist so differ.
• 1:11:08
  Aber irgendwie, you don't have to a stress yourself about it's justed some times there are things, you know on the heart and you you äh some People are like all I have always wanted to talk about this but if this and nothing white not it's fine
• 1:11:20
  not the problem. It's just I think you are kind of for Rollmodel I think for many people because it's a it's really cut to see
• 1:11:29
  ähm what you do and how to fox out and I guess some People i like all.
• 1:11:34
  I can say this, I,
• 1:11:37
  like, I would like to inspire others to follow there dream as war and that it's possible and then ähm,
• 1:11:49
  I don't know, you can figur out your own wait make it work ähm I don't know, something like this. That's not this mood is execution äh maybe getuckt to with the yeah.
• 1:12:03
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• 1:12:06
  Der Arm wird,
• 1:12:13
  Text äh a lot of courage to the say äh I know exactivy what I want and that's why I have to quitsch school because
• 1:12:21
  you know, you know, your way of of doing Things and then you you take actions to actually full full your dream and that's,
• 1:12:29
  Event of World. Just Bel, just by opering us really really inspire wing, so.
• 1:12:35
  I don't know for myself I don't of courage is the right worn.
• 1:12:46
  Ja. I don't know.
• 1:12:49
  Nur Problem. Okay, Elente. That's äh I think you that's all we äh,
• 1:12:57
  I don't want to äh still morph your time but it was ähm a big pleasure to speak refu and I'm very very much your looking forward äh to the release of your game.