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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to Honeybatger Radio. My name is
- 0:03Speaker 1: Brian Allison and this is maintaining frame number one thirty seven,
- 0:08Speaker 1: how to Smash the patriarchy to.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Music or the beat or the beat?
- 0:14Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, wow, it's just a feminist whale music.
- 0:21Speaker 2: It's just the same.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Oh, it's like it just sounds like every song now
- 0:27Speaker 1: that a woman does, they all sound the same to me.
- 0:30Speaker 3: So but whispering whaling kind of quality.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like that breathy whaley, you know, like yeah
- 0:41Speaker 2: that stuff.
- 0:42Speaker 4: Okay, all right, okay, okay, what okay?
- 0:53Speaker 1: Oh too much of that? That actually sounds better. That's
- 0:56Speaker 1: a that's a cat cover of a Billie Eilish song.
- 1:00Speaker 2: That that was.
- 1:03Speaker 1: That's a real song, but it's just a cat cover
- 1:05Speaker 1: of it. And it was on the Barbie soundtrack. And
- 1:09Speaker 1: when women on TikTok and social media wanted to, you know,
- 1:14Speaker 1: emote their fifees when they were sad or lonely or
- 1:17Speaker 1: felt depressed, they would cry over that music and put
- 1:20Speaker 1: words on the screen.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Not kidding.
- 1:26Speaker 1: So that that is the absolute state of music right now.
- 1:31Speaker 1: But we're going to be looking at this video from
- 1:35Speaker 1: a channel called beth Rors and I suppose Beth Rhors
- 1:39Speaker 1: does music reviews, or she's a musicologist or whatever they
- 1:42Speaker 1: call people who are music scientists now, and she's reacting
- 1:48Speaker 1: to a song called labor. I'm not kidding by Paris Paloma,
- 1:55Speaker 1: who I've never heard of. I have officially become a
- 1:59Speaker 1: far like. I used to try to keep up with
- 2:02Speaker 1: the latest music trends, and I listened to the bands all
- 2:05Speaker 1: the way through the twenty tens, and then I just like,
- 2:09Speaker 1: music is so bad now I just stopped caring, so
- 2:13Speaker 1: it's all fallen behind me.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Bring back led Zeppelin.
- 2:16Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that would probably traumatize people today.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:23Speaker 3: By the way, that that song you played, my cat
- 2:27Speaker 3: really resonated with it.
- 2:28Speaker 5: And she is.
- 2:30Speaker 3: Yowling her little heart out because she only got two
- 2:35Speaker 3: cans of cat food today and she obviously deserves four.
- 2:41Speaker 3: And she's oppressed. She's oppressed by the human archy.
- 2:45Speaker 5: Yeah, there she is.
- 2:48Speaker 3: She's gonna make her opinion known.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
- 2:54Speaker 5: All right, so what did you so?
- 2:56Speaker 2: That's it?
- 2:57Speaker 3: Was?
- 2:57Speaker 5: Well, I guess let's just get right into it.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Let's just do do you want to do any things
- 3:01Speaker 2: before we do this?
- 3:02Speaker 3: Oh?
- 3:02Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.
- 3:03Speaker 3: Well, I would do the things, except I still don't
- 3:07Speaker 3: have the monthly fundraiser up.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Well, you could just do the thing for super childs,
- 3:13Speaker 2: all right, all right.
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- 3:30Speaker 3: also sort of hang out in the discord for other
- 3:32Speaker 3: people to discuss as well and to cogitate upon. So
- 3:36Speaker 3: let's yeah, let's get to the first time code.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Yeah, feel this.
- 3:43Speaker 3: It's going to exhaust my cringe gland.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's let's let me look
- 3:49Speaker 1: at what I think we should see the intro. It's
- 3:51Speaker 1: not a long video, it's only eight minutes, but she's
- 3:55Speaker 1: going to talk about the song and let's just get
- 4:00Speaker 1: let's just listen to the first couple of like half
- 4:02Speaker 1: like half a minute so we can get a feel
- 4:05Speaker 1: for what this is gonna be like and the lyrics.
- 4:10Speaker 6: I was sitting in my produce studio and he was
- 4:14Speaker 6: working on another artist's music that he was helping her
- 4:17Speaker 6: work on a live version of it and played a
- 4:19Speaker 6: little bit to me and it was this song and
- 4:22Speaker 6: apparently it had already gone viral on TikTok wait.
- 4:25Speaker 3: Still do listen.
- 4:26Speaker 6: This is a great song. It's so powerful and there
- 4:29Speaker 6: is a reason that it went hame.
- 4:34Speaker 7: So tight soot.
- 4:38Speaker 2: Do you see what I mean? Do you do? You
- 4:40Speaker 2: see what I mean? Like all all music almost sounds
- 4:45Speaker 2: like this.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Now, It's like and this one, whoever this is, she's
- 4:49Speaker 1: gonna get a job where she's going to do a
- 4:53Speaker 1: breathy cover of a very popular song from the eighties
- 4:59Speaker 1: or nineties. But it's gonna be slowed down with a
- 5:02Speaker 1: lot of like distortions, and it's gonna have like you
- 5:06Speaker 1: know what I mean.
- 5:07Speaker 2: This is like a thing.
- 5:08Speaker 1: That they do for all like like new modern TV
- 5:11Speaker 1: shows and movies. They just take an old song like
- 5:14Speaker 1: Sweet Dreams or you know, Tainted Love or something like that,
- 5:18Speaker 1: and then they sing it really slow and they have
- 5:20Speaker 1: like some woman do it and she's vocally vocally frying
- 5:24Speaker 1: all the way through. It's it's predicted I could like
- 5:27Speaker 1: make a million dollars, like I could just I can
- 5:29Speaker 1: find a song and say, okay, let's get a woman
- 5:32Speaker 1: to cover this. I'm sorry, I'm a little caffeinated. Let's
- 5:35Speaker 1: get a woman to cover this and just like vocal
- 5:38Speaker 1: fry all the way through it, and then we'll auto
- 5:40Speaker 1: tune it and I'll be rich.
- 5:42Speaker 2: I swear. Yeah, I just played like thirty seconds, so
- 5:45Speaker 2: we'll be careful.
- 5:46Speaker 3: You can also just get a really good filter and
- 5:48Speaker 3: you could be the.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Yeah, Alison, you dropped your your audio cut out or something.
- 5:57Speaker 2: I can't hear you. You got to fix it. Uh
- 6:04Speaker 2: it's yeah, there you go.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're breaking up again.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
- 6:19Speaker 1: It basically makes it sound like everything you've heard before,
- 6:22Speaker 1: but it is supposedly a new song that's viral. And
- 6:25Speaker 1: Allison dropped dropped out of the call at the whim
- 6:30Speaker 1: of the cat. All right, don't forget the segue into
- 6:38Speaker 1: ancient Rome. Remove the cat.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Yeah, now Allison's completely gone. I don't know.
- 6:55Speaker 3: Okay, this is this is the fly in the ointment.
- 6:59Speaker 7: She is the one.
- 7:00Speaker 3: She's the source of the technical difficulties. I'll put her
- 7:02Speaker 3: in the other room.
- 7:04Speaker 8: Okay, all right.
- 7:14Speaker 5: Let's go.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Let's listen to some more.
- 7:21Speaker 7: This was an escape science Cas did so many and
- 7:29Speaker 7: dive into the ways below.
- 7:32Speaker 8: All right.
- 7:33Speaker 1: So she's resonating with the lyrics, but I can barely
- 7:37Speaker 1: make them out? Can you make them out? I went
- 7:39Speaker 1: and looked them up to help us out here, yea
- 7:42Speaker 1: the lyrics to you.
- 7:43Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's probably a good idea.
- 7:46Speaker 2: It's just us yeah.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Verse one, which we just heard, she says, why are
- 7:50Speaker 1: you hanging on so tight to the rope that I'm
- 7:53Speaker 1: hanging from off this island? This was an escape plan?
- 7:58Speaker 1: This was an escape plan here fully timed it. So
- 8:01Speaker 1: let me go and dive into the waves below.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Deep. Okay, so listen to some more.
- 8:17Speaker 7: Bo fixes.
- 8:29Speaker 2: All right, so I'll read that again. Who tends the orchards?
- 8:32Speaker 2: Who fixes up the gables? Emotional torture from the head
- 8:37Speaker 2: of your high table.
- 8:40Speaker 3: All right, Well, the person who most likely fixed the
- 8:42Speaker 3: gables was potentially the groundskeeper, who would have been a man.
- 8:47Speaker 3: The person who likely tended the orchard was probably an orchardist,
- 8:53Speaker 3: also likely to be a man. So essentially there this
- 8:57Speaker 3: song is stolen valor.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:01Speaker 1: And even on top of that, like she has to
- 9:04Speaker 1: make a reference to like, you know, ancient times in
- 9:07Speaker 1: order to make this point, like it's look, I don't know.
- 9:13Speaker 1: I think that the any woman who finds this relatable
- 9:18Speaker 1: is just engaging in cope at this point, like I'm sorry,
- 9:21Speaker 1: but you're not oppressed.
- 9:23Speaker 2: You're not like you.
- 9:24Speaker 1: You are not experiencing any form of labor, much less
- 9:28Speaker 1: emotional labor, and I have no sympathy. You know, I
- 9:33Speaker 1: really don't care, Margaret, is basically my response.
- 9:36Speaker 2: So that I.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Really don't care. I'm gonna get a pipe. I'm gonna
- 9:39Speaker 1: start smoking a pipe.
- 9:40Speaker 5: I think I don't care Margaret, just so.
- 9:43Speaker 2: I can hold it in my hand.
- 9:44Speaker 5: I don't say that.
- 9:46Speaker 3: First of all, if she was the lady of the manner,
- 9:51Speaker 3: she probably wouldn't be setting the table. She'd be directing
- 9:55Speaker 3: an entire a small army of household staff.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Unless yes, they were living like they didn't have servants
- 10:03Speaker 1: and stuff, in which case the probably.
- 10:04Speaker 3: Wouldn't have silverware or glassware. Right, This is this is
- 10:09Speaker 3: what's they construct, this fiction about history, this absolute fiction
- 10:13Speaker 3: about history, and then they lay in front of it
- 10:16Speaker 3: and pretend they're a victim of it. And yes, there
- 10:19Speaker 3: was a comment of a couple of days ago about
- 10:21Speaker 3: a woman who was saying we we were oppressed in
- 10:25Speaker 3: the medieval times, and it's like, okay, so you are
- 10:29Speaker 3: now a guest stalt with every woman that's ever lived.
- 10:33Speaker 5: Missed me with that shit.
- 10:34Speaker 1: And men, by the way, because like men were also
- 10:37Speaker 1: oppressed in medieval times. There was a class of people
- 10:41Speaker 1: who were you know, who were probably considered lower class.
- 10:44Speaker 1: I don't even know if that means oppression, to be honest,
- 10:46Speaker 1: I mean it was life was hard for everybody. Yeah,
- 10:49Speaker 1: of course people today have it better than kings of old, yes.
- 10:53Speaker 3: Pretty yeah, like and the that's that's the truth. Like
- 10:56Speaker 3: the guy at the head of the table, probably a
- 10:59Speaker 3: couple of his brothers died in war to have that
- 11:02Speaker 3: table and that land. But of course we don't this
- 11:08Speaker 3: This is just it's defeating. Honestly, when I listen to this,
- 11:12Speaker 3: when I see how upvoted it gets, and how much
- 11:17Speaker 3: is invested in this mentality, this distortion of history, and
- 11:21Speaker 3: also this distortion of women's situation currently, it's just like
- 11:25Speaker 3: I definitely find it depressing. I suppose that's not a
- 11:29Speaker 3: really helpful thing to stay.
- 11:31Speaker 1: I think that women do this, like what they I
- 11:38Speaker 1: don't know, maybe what they want is to feel safe
- 11:42Speaker 1: and loved, and they don't and so they lash out
- 11:46Speaker 1: at men in the abstract and they they're, they're, they're,
- 11:50Speaker 1: I don't know, way of trying to take control of
- 11:54Speaker 1: their situation without actually like getting off their ass and
- 11:57Speaker 1: doing something with their life is to listen the music
- 12:00Speaker 1: and say, oh, I so relate to that, and then
- 12:03Speaker 1: share that with other women online through social media, at
- 12:08Speaker 1: least in today's day and age. And then other women
- 12:10Speaker 1: see that and they also it's like this crazy this
- 12:14Speaker 1: you know, you haven't watched it yet, Alison, but in
- 12:16Speaker 1: Midsummer there's a scene that was extremely striking of one
- 12:21Speaker 1: woman experiencing pain and this cult they have all these
- 12:24Speaker 1: other women come around her and they all cry with her,
- 12:28Speaker 1: even though they're not.
- 12:28Speaker 2: Experiencing the pain that she's experiencing.
- 12:31Speaker 1: They're just crying together like some kind of you know,
- 12:35Speaker 1: like collective blob of sadness and agony.
- 12:40Speaker 2: And she is made.
- 12:41Speaker 1: More upset by that, but also felt more connected to
- 12:44Speaker 1: those women even though they didn't have the experiences she had.
- 12:48Speaker 1: And as the man, I just don't get it. So
- 12:50Speaker 1: I'm on the outside looking and I'm just like, you
- 12:52Speaker 1: guys look absolutely insane, But I think this is what
- 12:55Speaker 1: women do.
- 12:56Speaker 2: They they.
- 12:58Speaker 1: You know, like with well, whatever happens to be going on, right,
- 13:02Speaker 1: like with with the whole like you know, your body,
- 13:05Speaker 1: my choice, right, Women who probably will never actually have
- 13:10Speaker 1: to confront any of that, any of the consequences of that,
- 13:13Speaker 1: because I would imagine that they would be somewhat careful
- 13:16Speaker 1: with their you know, with their fertility. But they really
- 13:20Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of this fisterhood thing that
- 13:23Speaker 1: was going on, so they went on social media and
- 13:26Speaker 1: they started crying or they started making you know, pretending
- 13:29Speaker 1: to be Catnus Everdeen, you know from Hunger Games and
- 13:33Speaker 1: like fighting the patriarchy. But they aren't going to do anything.
- 13:37Speaker 2: It's just cope. That's what I think.
- 13:40Speaker 1: I I and I you know, it's fine, Like I'll
- 13:43Speaker 1: laugh at it because I think it's just cope.
- 13:46Speaker 3: And uh yeah, it's definitely because despite being the most
- 13:51Speaker 3: oppressed group of people throughout all of human history, in
- 13:54Speaker 3: every single human epic epoch of history, women have never
- 14:02Speaker 3: made much of an effort.
- 14:03Speaker 5: To get out of their oppression.
- 14:05Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 14:06Speaker 3: You know, like slaves had the underground railroad, they in
- 14:10Speaker 3: some cases appealed to third parties like the North End slavery.
- 14:14Speaker 3: You know, Spartacus led a slave rebellion. The Jews had,
- 14:19Speaker 3: you know, the Promised land they went through hell to
- 14:22Speaker 3: get to.
- 14:23Speaker 5: And what have women done.
- 14:27Speaker 8: Right?
- 14:29Speaker 3: Which just appeals to them more.
- 14:32Speaker 5: I mean, it is not very appealing.
- 14:33Speaker 3: Not I'm not saying that feminism is very appealing, but
- 14:36Speaker 3: all at the end of of the day, feminists have
- 14:39Speaker 3: as a solution to their problems is to continue to
- 14:42Speaker 3: ask men for more stuff, the very people who they
- 14:45Speaker 3: say would never give them a thing like. No, that
- 14:49Speaker 3: is not the behavior of any oppressed group of people
- 14:51Speaker 3: throughout history. No oppressed group of people directly ask the
- 14:55Speaker 3: people who oppressed them for clemency or consider a They
- 15:01Speaker 3: had to build real power, They had to build financial power,
- 15:04Speaker 3: They had to build connections with other parties that had
- 15:07Speaker 3: a vested interest in destroying their oppressors to actually get anywhere.
- 15:12Speaker 3: Or they had to pick up a sword like and
- 15:16Speaker 3: or they had to flee into the desert and go
- 15:18Speaker 3: to a place where nobody was, nobody wanted the land
- 15:21Speaker 3: and just geek out a living right.
- 15:24Speaker 2: But not women. Yeah, most God forgive forbid, they don't
- 15:30Speaker 2: anything about it.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Yeah, God forbid. A man put food on the table
- 15:34Speaker 1: and the woman like cook it. I mean that's kind
- 15:37Speaker 1: of like this, you know, like, Okay, I don't know,
- 15:41Speaker 1: but again I think this is just oh by the way,
- 15:45Speaker 1: because this woman doesn't really go too deep into the
- 15:47Speaker 1: politics of it. I mean she does say this is
- 15:49Speaker 1: like a feminist anthem and shit like that. But I
- 15:52Speaker 1: decided to see what feminists on Reddit were saying about it,
- 15:56Speaker 1: and I found a post so we could read through it.
- 15:59Speaker 2: It's with our witches versus patriarchy.
- 16:02Speaker 1: Yes, a real place on the Internet, and they have
- 16:06Speaker 1: opinions too, so but do you want to listen to
- 16:09Speaker 1: more of this or do you want me to read
- 16:10Speaker 1: that reddit?
- 16:12Speaker 3: Let's save the reddit for after, like, let's lessen yeah, yeah,
- 16:15Speaker 3: move through the cringe order of receiving it.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds good. Let's listen to some of this.
- 16:22Speaker 7: Then and walk back down again in your shop.
- 16:31Speaker 6: I'm gonna let it run through the chorus.
- 16:37Speaker 1: Okay, the beat drops, but let me just read more
- 16:40Speaker 1: of the lyrics so you know what she is said,
- 16:43Speaker 1: because you can barely hear it because it's breathy and
- 16:46Speaker 1: like faint, and I don't know, I just don't vibe
- 16:49Speaker 1: with it. Emotional torture from the head of your high
- 16:53Speaker 1: table who fetches the water from the rocky mountain spring
- 16:56Speaker 1: you and walk back down again to feel your words
- 17:00Speaker 1: and their sharp sting. And I'm getting fucking tired. Oh
- 17:04Speaker 1: she dropped an F bomb, Guys, she really means it.
- 17:09Speaker 3: So I don't know, ast and why are you so
- 17:14Speaker 3: ineffectual at it? Like women have had how much power,
- 17:19Speaker 3: how much spending power, how much discretionary income, how much
- 17:24Speaker 3: access to land? And all you've freaking done is sit
- 17:28Speaker 3: and whine Like every other oppressed people throughout history would
- 17:31Speaker 3: give their it teeth for your ability to create a
- 17:35Speaker 3: world that doesn't oppress you, and yet you haven't done it.
- 17:40Speaker 3: I'm calling your bluff. I'm calling your bluff right. The
- 17:45Speaker 3: reason why you aren't walking away is there's nothing to
- 17:48Speaker 3: walk away from.
- 17:51Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, let's.
- 17:53Speaker 2: Let's let's listen more to the now.
- 17:55Speaker 1: She's getting to the chorus, which, of course this chick
- 17:57Speaker 1: is vibing with big times asting if.
- 18:05Speaker 7: Somebody those.
- 18:12Speaker 8: All right?
- 18:12Speaker 1: So the lyric is just you know, the capillaries in
- 18:18Speaker 1: my eyes are bursting if our love died? Would that
- 18:21Speaker 1: be the worst thing for somebody I thought was my savior?
- 18:25Speaker 1: You sure make me do a whole lot of labor.
- 18:28Speaker 1: That's what That's what she's saying.
- 18:32Speaker 3: Again, are you you realize that life is work?
- 18:36Speaker 4: Right?
- 18:37Speaker 2: Yeah? What do you What do you think life is
- 18:39Speaker 2: supposed to be? Life is suffering?
- 18:42Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, you have to do like there's no
- 18:47Speaker 3: way around it. Do you do you think that the
- 18:51Speaker 3: the the the creatures in the field don't actually have
- 18:56Speaker 3: to make an effort to exist. It makes you do
- 19:00Speaker 3: a lot of later and this is your big oppression. Okay,
- 19:02Speaker 3: So why was your big freedom doing labor.
- 19:06Speaker 5: In jobs like this?
- 19:08Speaker 8: Is this?
- 19:08Speaker 5: This is the thing you.
- 19:11Speaker 3: Setting aside, the absolute bullshit that this is. Historically, you
- 19:18Speaker 3: were freed to labor in a job, right. You were
- 19:24Speaker 3: freed from homemaking, which in the fifties, as I've said
- 19:29Speaker 3: multiple times, went from something that was six twelve hours
- 19:32Speaker 3: a day, six days a week to about three hours
- 19:35Speaker 3: a day, five days a week. So it was a
- 19:38Speaker 3: part time job because of all of the labor saving
- 19:42Speaker 3: devices that men invented. And your husband would have bought
- 19:45Speaker 3: for you because he prioritized your free time.
- 19:49Speaker 5: All Right, you.
- 19:51Speaker 3: Were free from labor for the first time in human history.
- 19:56Speaker 3: And again, women have never forgiven men for that. They
- 20:01Speaker 3: have never forgiven men for that. They called it a prison.
- 20:08Speaker 5: Like who knew?
- 20:08Speaker 8: Guys?
- 20:09Speaker 3: You know you you you build a home, You invest
- 20:13Speaker 3: all kinds of labor saving devices.
- 20:15Speaker 5: You turn your wife's.
- 20:16Speaker 3: Job from something that you know permanently swells her knuckles
- 20:21Speaker 3: up so that she looks like a backstreet brawler because
- 20:24Speaker 3: she has to constantly go out in the freezing cold
- 20:26Speaker 3: to beat up freaking laundry. You know, she has to
- 20:29Speaker 3: do her own wood chopping to get heat, she has
- 20:32Speaker 3: to make tallow candles. If you want lighting, she has
- 20:35Speaker 3: to can and if if there is canning, she has
- 20:38Speaker 3: to preserve all the food. You take that job. That
- 20:42Speaker 3: probably took a nineteen year old girl, and by the
- 20:45Speaker 3: time she hit twenty five, she looked like she was
- 20:47Speaker 3: in her fifties. You took all of that, You removed
- 20:50Speaker 3: it from her life. You gave her a safe place
- 20:55Speaker 3: with indoor plumbing, heating, lighting, access to the world's knowledge, ovens, laundry,
- 21:08Speaker 3: machine washing machines, refrigerator.
- 21:12Speaker 6: All of that.
- 21:13Speaker 3: This pew this to absolutely completely remove almost all of
- 21:18Speaker 3: the labor of a home to the point where men
- 21:21Speaker 3: could actually live without a housekeeper. Now that's the other
- 21:24Speaker 3: thing that we don't talk about before men would need
- 21:27Speaker 3: a housekeeper because a house had to be kept. It
- 21:30Speaker 3: wasn't something that you could You couldn't batch in the past.
- 21:33Speaker 3: But anyway you did all of that, give it.
- 21:37Speaker 5: To your wives.
- 21:40Speaker 3: Two generations later, you still haven't heard the end of
- 21:45Speaker 3: how horrible you were. Honestly, if we could go back
- 21:49Speaker 3: in time at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, I
- 21:52Speaker 3: would tell men, do not make the washing machine, do
- 21:56Speaker 3: not make the dishwasher, do not make the oven, do
- 21:58Speaker 3: not make the refrigerator. Let them continue to labor because
- 22:02Speaker 3: they won't appreciate it.
- 22:06Speaker 2: Yep.
- 22:08Speaker 1: While that you know, yeah, like I was saying, they're
- 22:10Speaker 1: just cause playing victimhood like it's their favorite thing to
- 22:13Speaker 1: do because it gets them.
- 22:15Speaker 2: Most of this is not for men. This is for
- 22:17Speaker 2: other women.
- 22:18Speaker 1: They're they're trying to get in the good graces of
- 22:23Speaker 1: let's say, you know, socially hostile women that will shame
- 22:30Speaker 1: them and condemn them and alienate them and turn other
- 22:34Speaker 1: women against them. In social media, which is call of
- 22:36Speaker 1: duty for women, is the battlefield under which that happens.
- 22:40Speaker 1: So when women dress up as ketchup bottles to protest
- 22:44Speaker 1: a Handmaid's Tale, they're mostly doing that so other women
- 22:47Speaker 1: see them doing it. When Selena Gomez cries on camera
- 22:52Speaker 1: about like the you know, her people being deported, she's
- 22:56Speaker 1: not doing that because she actually cares about those people,
- 22:59Speaker 1: because otherwise she give them one of.
- 23:00Speaker 2: Her four mansions.
- 23:02Speaker 1: She's doing that so that other women see her doing that,
- 23:05Speaker 1: and so she's like, look at me, I'm one of
- 23:07Speaker 1: the good ones. It's literally the male feminist does the
- 23:10Speaker 1: same thing for women's appeal, right, and these women they're
- 23:15Speaker 1: causeplaying victimhood.
- 23:16Speaker 2: They're not actually in danger. They know that they're not
- 23:18Speaker 2: in danger.
- 23:19Speaker 1: They know that they can safely protest because men won't
- 23:23Speaker 1: actually do the thing to them that they claim that
- 23:26Speaker 1: they're afraid of them men doing to them.
- 23:29Speaker 2: It won't happen.
- 23:30Speaker 3: So well, men won't even tell them to shut the
- 23:33Speaker 3: hell up.
- 23:33Speaker 7: This is bullshit.
- 23:35Speaker 2: Yeah, men won't even make them shut up.
- 23:36Speaker 3: Right, Well, I guess I guess people men and Pearl
- 23:40Speaker 3: are starting to do that.
- 23:42Speaker 2: Yeah, they are.
- 23:43Speaker 1: But then, like the women, I think the reason why
- 23:46Speaker 1: they're hostile towards you know, like the men who call
- 23:49Speaker 1: them out or women like Pearl, is because they're afraid
- 23:54Speaker 1: that this. You know, they're not afraid. It's another opportunity
- 23:59Speaker 1: to double down on that, that fake victimhood, that cosplay.
- 24:04Speaker 8: So that's right about this.
- 24:10Speaker 3: I was thinking about the mentality behind all of this,
- 24:14Speaker 3: and I actually, I actually have had a sort of
- 24:17Speaker 3: a close brush with a woman who very much embodies
- 24:20Speaker 3: this kind of mentality, and it occurred to me listening
- 24:23Speaker 3: to her and listening to chaos she sewed around her
- 24:27Speaker 3: that she doesn't perceive that she exists unless she's a victim.
- 24:32Speaker 3: So it's like she permanently lives in a state of darkness,
- 24:36Speaker 3: just complete empty darkness. Like she screams and nothing nothing,
- 24:40Speaker 3: nobody hears, she moves her, nothing really changes, you know,
- 24:46Speaker 3: it just just complete void. And then there's these moments
- 24:51Speaker 3: where she can light a match and she has a
- 24:53Speaker 3: little bit of heat and warmth, and it's when she's
- 24:56Speaker 3: a victim. And that's this mentality. This is the lives
- 25:01Speaker 3: they live, these women. The only time they exist, they
- 25:05Speaker 3: have a little bit of heat and light and warmth
- 25:07Speaker 3: in their lives is when they're a victim. Nothing else
- 25:12Speaker 3: of them exists because they disavow it. I mean, if
- 25:17Speaker 3: you make a choice and it has a negative consequence,
- 25:19Speaker 3: well that was the patriarchy, right, you know, but if
- 25:22Speaker 3: you make a choice the positive consequence, then really that's
- 25:25Speaker 3: still the patriarchy, because the patriarchy didn't intervene to make
- 25:29Speaker 3: you make the negative choice. Right, So everything, everything of
- 25:33Speaker 3: you that exists outside of simply receiving the actions of
- 25:38Speaker 3: others doesn't exist. You imagine that, Brian. Imagine waking up
- 25:42Speaker 3: one day and you can recognize none of the consequences
- 25:46Speaker 3: of your actions, and the only time you exist as
- 25:48Speaker 3: a person is when you perceive, or you can you
- 25:52Speaker 3: can perform victimhood.
- 25:55Speaker 5: M Imagine living like that?
- 25:58Speaker 2: No I can't, No, no.
- 26:01Speaker 3: Well, I can't imagine living like that because I got
- 26:03Speaker 3: a great imagination and I can tell you it fucking sucks.
- 26:07Speaker 3: And as much as I've dealt with to oppose that
- 26:12Speaker 3: attitude and in that way that enforcing that mentality on women,
- 26:16Speaker 3: and I have gone through a lot of shit over
- 26:19Speaker 3: the years, you know, and we're I'm finding out more
- 26:22Speaker 3: and more why apparently we're on multiple lists. But regardless,
- 26:29Speaker 3: no matter what happens, I would rather live with this
- 26:35Speaker 3: kind of I don't know if I want to call
- 26:38Speaker 3: it prosecution, but you know, basically just rough waters, shall
- 26:43Speaker 3: we say, I would rather live through the suffering that
- 26:46Speaker 3: I have than live.
- 26:48Speaker 2: Is that.
- 26:51Speaker 1: I mean, it's not it's not real victim. It's like
- 26:54Speaker 1: porn for them.
- 26:55Speaker 3: No, but it's like I know, it's just like porn
- 26:57Speaker 3: for them. But you got to realize, imagine, you don't
- 27:02Speaker 3: exist until you're a victim, or you can put think
- 27:07Speaker 3: of all that you lose, Brian, I mean I can
- 27:09Speaker 3: see it. Basically lose all of the worth of your life.
- 27:15Speaker 3: That's the life they live.
- 27:17Speaker 5: That's the life this woman is living.
- 27:19Speaker 3: I mean we think, oh, she's just she's enjoying being
- 27:23Speaker 3: a victim. She is only she only exists when she
- 27:28Speaker 3: is a victim, like she has nothing else. And this
- 27:33Speaker 3: is what I've been seeing. I mean, some of them,
- 27:34Speaker 3: I suppose, have a few perception, like a dim perception
- 27:37Speaker 3: that they are actions, that they also exist as actions
- 27:40Speaker 3: in the greater world. But when I was, like I said,
- 27:43Speaker 3: when I observed one of them up close, I realized
- 27:49Speaker 3: that there is nothing in her life but victimhood. Nothing,
- 27:53Speaker 3: no cope, no no strategy for herself as as a
- 27:59Speaker 3: person accept victimhood. It's like a life without color or light.
- 28:04Speaker 3: And it's why they're becoming increasingly They're in a death
- 28:06Speaker 3: spiral in which they're becoming increasingly miserable, like it's getting
- 28:10Speaker 3: it's accelerating, the misery of this woman is accelerating, and
- 28:16Speaker 3: it's I don't want to say it's sad, because Karen
- 28:20Speaker 3: would say they they they have made their bed, they
- 28:23Speaker 3: lie in it. But it's certainly nothing that I would
- 28:27Speaker 3: want for myself.
- 28:29Speaker 2: Pathetic is the word that comes to mind for me,
- 28:32Speaker 2: and I think.
- 28:33Speaker 3: That they're missing out on so much, right.
- 28:38Speaker 1: I wonder if they believe somewhere in their mind that
- 28:42Speaker 1: they don't deserve to like be happy, Like they don't
- 28:46Speaker 1: deserve good things that come into their life, so they
- 28:48Speaker 1: just wallow in their victimhood as a It's like, at
- 28:52Speaker 1: least I'm being seen this way kind of a thing.
- 28:54Speaker 1: And that's not me saying that out of sympathy. I
- 28:57Speaker 1: just think it's pathetic. And you know, they're adults, so yeah, at.
- 29:02Speaker 3: Some point you have to accept the choices that you've made.
- 29:05Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, good God.
- 29:07Speaker 2: Girl, Absolutely, Okay, let's just listen to more of.
- 29:12Speaker 6: The song I often cracking thing and the Silent Song
- 29:19Speaker 6: sub It has become an anthem for young women for
- 29:26Speaker 6: feminism and looking at women's role in the world throughout history.
- 29:31Speaker 1: And you really okay, let me read the last of
- 29:34Speaker 1: those lyrics in case you didn't understand them.
- 29:37Speaker 5: You make me do too much labor.
- 29:40Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like the cacapilaris in my eyes are bursting.
- 29:44Speaker 1: If our love died, would that be the worst thing
- 29:46Speaker 1: for somebody?
- 29:46Speaker 8: I thought?
- 29:46Speaker 1: With my savior, you sure make me do a whole
- 29:49Speaker 1: lot of labor. The callous skin on my hands is cracking.
- 29:52Speaker 1: If our love ends, would that be a bad thing?
- 29:55Speaker 1: And the silence haunts our bedchamber? You make me do
- 29:58Speaker 1: too much labor. Why does the silence haunt your bedchamber?
- 30:02Speaker 1: You're not putting out and.
- 30:03Speaker 2: He's getting like you're interested? Oh yeah, are you?
- 30:07Speaker 1: You seem to be creating your own problems, and you
- 30:10Speaker 1: instead of like figuring out solutions, you're just sort of
- 30:13Speaker 1: like you're just oh my god, it's so hard. Why
- 30:16Speaker 1: are you being so so awful a husband? I'm not
- 30:19Speaker 1: doing anything to make things better. I'm not even asking questions,
- 30:22Speaker 1: I'm not trying to communicate. I'm just over here with
- 30:24Speaker 1: catalyus hands because obviously I'm not an actor in my
- 30:28Speaker 1: own life.
- 30:29Speaker 2: So yeah, this is an anthem of feminism. I guess
- 30:32Speaker 2: you're right.
- 30:33Speaker 5: Why don't you invent stuff to reduce your labor?
- 30:36Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 30:37Speaker 5: Oh, ship, men had to do that.
- 30:40Speaker 3: Gree all that freedom that women had in the fifties,
- 30:46Speaker 3: starting the forties, forties, fifties, sixties, all that freedom, and
- 30:50Speaker 3: this is what they constructed. They could have used their
- 30:54Speaker 3: free time to invent new forms of our philosophy or mathematics,
- 30:59Speaker 3: you know, because they were not excluded from libraries instead.
- 31:07Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, let's keep going, all.
- 31:11Speaker 2: Right, So this is h yeah for feminism.
- 31:15Speaker 6: They see it in the music video as well. Here.
- 31:17Speaker 6: I think the lyrics are very visceral and very understandable.
- 31:22Speaker 7: And very strong.
- 31:24Speaker 6: I love all the illiteration in it, talus tns, cracking
- 31:28Speaker 6: things like that. They're very very on a matter, poet.
- 31:31Speaker 6: You really really can live within that imagery, which is
- 31:35Speaker 6: really really beautiful.
- 31:37Speaker 2: How she uses her what is wrong with women? Why?
- 31:40Speaker 2: Like I don't I don't get it.
- 31:42Speaker 1: Like I I love music and I've heard some great lyrics,
- 31:47Speaker 1: but I've never sat there and said, oh my god,
- 31:49Speaker 1: my soul is entering the body of the guy singing
- 31:51Speaker 1: the song.
- 31:52Speaker 2: I'm just like, yeah, that's that's catchy. I don't know.
- 31:56Speaker 2: I don't I don't, I don't know. I don't get it.
- 31:57Speaker 1: Like it's like they want to like mind meld with people,
- 32:02Speaker 1: you know, like they want to feel their pain, like
- 32:04Speaker 1: that's what their desire.
- 32:06Speaker 2: I don't know. It just it just makes me cringe.
- 32:10Speaker 2: It just makes me cringe.
- 32:11Speaker 3: I'm still confused by the logic. Who do you expect
- 32:14Speaker 3: to do the labor?
- 32:17Speaker 2: No, I mean they don't like it's women's idea. Women's
- 32:22Speaker 2: idea of.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Rights comes down to something that they really don't want
- 32:26Speaker 1: but they think they want, which is ultimate comfort. And
- 32:30Speaker 1: they want men to essentially be their arms and legs
- 32:36Speaker 1: and do everything to maximize their comfort and their desires
- 32:42Speaker 1: and their desires of every person is bottomless, but they
- 32:46Speaker 1: don't care. That's why when you ask feminism about like, well,
- 32:50Speaker 1: what rights do men have that women don't, and they'll
- 32:54Speaker 1: bring up some bullshit like you know, free this, or
- 32:58Speaker 1: this kind of service or this kind of basically men's
- 33:01Speaker 1: labor right, Like I want to be able to walk
- 33:04Speaker 1: home in the middle of the night and feel safe. Well,
- 33:06Speaker 1: what does that require? Well, requires good men to do
- 33:10Speaker 1: everything in their power to make sure that you're safe.
- 33:12Speaker 1: So that you live in a bubble where you don't
- 33:14Speaker 1: even know that there's like threats out there in the world,
- 33:18Speaker 1: right or if you yeah, go ahead, Well I was
- 33:21Speaker 1: going to.
- 33:22Speaker 3: Say, of course, they argue that the reason why they're
- 33:25Speaker 3: unsafe is men. So why can't men stop criminal men?
- 33:30Speaker 1: It's like, well, well, yeah, they have to appeal to patriarchy,
- 33:33Speaker 1: to contriarchy.
- 33:35Speaker 3: Yeah, Like women are manufacturing criminal men. Where do they
- 33:41Speaker 3: come from? Single mother homes? Where do male rapists often
- 33:45Speaker 3: come from? Sexual abuse by women? Not saying that the
- 33:48Speaker 3: women they abuse are responsible, but if we want to
- 33:52Speaker 3: actually get rid of male criminals, we have to address
- 33:57Speaker 3: the harms that are done by mothers sons, and we're
- 34:01Speaker 3: not prepared to.
- 34:02Speaker 4: Do that, right.
- 34:03Speaker 3: And because we're not prepared to do that, we have
- 34:06Speaker 3: to employ men at the end of the cycle to
- 34:09Speaker 3: try to control the violence of these other men.
- 34:13Speaker 2: Right.
- 34:13Speaker 3: And again, like there's also like genetic components. It's just
- 34:19Speaker 3: not something that men can control consciously. They cannot change
- 34:23Speaker 3: the existence of criminal men because there are genetic markers
- 34:28Speaker 3: for antisocial personality disorder. There always will be unless we
- 34:31Speaker 3: breed it out through eugenics, and there will always be
- 34:36Speaker 3: a small percentage of abused boys who go on to
- 34:39Speaker 3: lash out at the world. How do we deal with this, Well,
- 34:44Speaker 3: we take the men who don't have these deficits and
- 34:48Speaker 3: we waste their lives on managing them for the benefit
- 34:52Speaker 3: of everyone. And of course that is the existence of
- 34:57Speaker 3: the criminals is evidence of men's nature rather than all
- 35:02Speaker 3: of the men who prevent the criminals, and when they
- 35:05Speaker 3: do engage in these kinds of activities, punish and put
- 35:08Speaker 3: them away. That those men are they don't reflect men's nature.
- 35:13Speaker 3: All right, So let's let's sorry.
- 35:15Speaker 1: Fore, Yeah, it's okay, I got another No, it's okay,
- 35:18Speaker 1: I got a super chat. Let me just check to
- 35:20Speaker 1: make sure we didn't miss any super chowds.
- 35:22Speaker 2: No we didn't.
- 35:22Speaker 1: From Albatross, who gives us five bucks and says one
- 35:25Speaker 1: of the lyrics was something like, I thought you were
- 35:27Speaker 1: my savior, but you make me do labor. You're a feminist,
- 35:31Speaker 1: but you're dependent on a guy rescuing you. Well, I mean,
- 35:34Speaker 1: like all yes, but the ultimate goal of this is
- 35:37Speaker 1: another one of these kind of anti relationship, anti male
- 35:41Speaker 1: things where it's like, oh, I don't need you you
- 35:44Speaker 1: you make my life harder for no reason. So I'm
- 35:46Speaker 1: going to leave you now, but like, you know, no,
- 35:49Speaker 1: it's a good point though, Yeah, it is. I mean
- 35:52Speaker 1: obviously that's like the at the root of it is
- 35:55Speaker 1: we want men to do our bidding and not expect
- 35:58Speaker 1: anything in return.
- 36:00Speaker 2: That that like almost all of this boils down to
- 36:02Speaker 2: the same dynamic.
- 36:04Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if you're when you're dating, when you look
- 36:06Speaker 1: at those dating interviews and the guy and the the
- 36:09Speaker 1: you know, the man on the street is asking the
- 36:10Speaker 1: woman like what do you expect from a man? And
- 36:12Speaker 1: they'll list off all of the things that they want.
- 36:15Speaker 1: But then when they say, well what is what what
- 36:17Speaker 1: do you bring to the table, and now should be
- 36:19Speaker 1: well my presence, it's me, I'm here, and so like
- 36:23Speaker 1: that you just expand that. And it's the same when
- 36:26Speaker 1: feminists say this is what we expect and we don't
- 36:28Speaker 1: want to be doing, like we don't want to do labor, but.
- 36:30Speaker 2: We have expectations. It's the same thing.
- 36:34Speaker 1: Go, you can go back to Manifestel who always says
- 36:36Speaker 1: what men are labor and men are risk What does
- 36:38Speaker 1: that mean? Well, I don't want to do stuff for dudes,
- 36:41Speaker 1: and I also think they're dangerous, So like what does
- 36:44Speaker 1: that mean, Well, you you're not going to be able
- 36:46Speaker 1: to commit like there are. You're basically saying there are
- 36:49Speaker 1: no good men, so I'm just going to not breed
- 36:52Speaker 1: and I'm going to die alone and that.
- 36:54Speaker 2: And I mean, like, I know women.
- 36:56Speaker 1: Don't want that, but that's the attitude they have right now.
- 36:59Speaker 1: And then inevitably they get like up to their thirties
- 37:02Speaker 1: and they're putting up videos on TikTok from their car
- 37:05Speaker 1: saying where are all the good men? Whereas the good
- 37:08Speaker 1: men have good women, probably found good women. Yes, So
- 37:13Speaker 1: you know, it's it's what it starts with humility and yeah,
- 37:19Speaker 1: these people don't have it well.
- 37:20Speaker 5: And here's the thing, it's not the truth.
- 37:23Speaker 3: Okay, all relationships are risk and all relationships are work.
- 37:28Speaker 3: And in fact, when women end up dating other women,
- 37:31Speaker 3: they discover that other women are more risk and more
- 37:36Speaker 3: labor than men. Okay, And I mean I remember that,
- 37:40Speaker 3: but I don't know, did you did you bring up
- 37:42Speaker 3: this anecdote? There was a female doctor who ended up,
- 37:45Speaker 3: you know, pursuing a relationship with a woman, and the
- 37:49Speaker 3: woman made less than her, and because she made less
- 37:52Speaker 3: than her, she automatically assumed the female doctor would flit
- 37:56Speaker 3: the bill for everything mm hmm. And and she even amazingly,
- 38:02Speaker 3: she even treated this woman much like a man. She
- 38:06Speaker 3: would say, well, you know you make more, My time
- 38:09Speaker 3: is more valuable, so you have to you know, you
- 38:13Speaker 3: should be the one who's paying, and stuff like that,
- 38:17Speaker 3: and it's like, yeah, you're getting the male experience. Men
- 38:21Speaker 3: are expected to do the labor in courtship, and then
- 38:25Speaker 3: for some reason we think that the gender that expects
- 38:29Speaker 3: to have the labor done in courtship isn't going to
- 38:33Speaker 3: resent doing the labor necessary to build a life with
- 38:36Speaker 3: another person. This is what's really funny about it all.
- 38:39Speaker 3: Like suddenly we're supposed to believe that women who expect
- 38:43Speaker 3: to be served in courtship when they get into a relationship,
- 38:47Speaker 3: set that aside and become the hard done by partner
- 38:51Speaker 3: who's doing all the work. And I don't buy it.
- 38:55Speaker 3: I don't buy it. I think that what's really happening
- 38:58Speaker 3: is you go from a courtship where a man is
- 39:00Speaker 3: doing literally everything. Don't do that, guys, bye, by the way,
- 39:02Speaker 3: don't there because the honest to god truth of is,
- 39:07Speaker 3: you do literally everything in a courtship. And she has
- 39:09Speaker 3: no sense of reciprococity as soon as the necessary work
- 39:14Speaker 3: of a relationship starts, where building a life starts, two
- 39:17Speaker 3: out the door like a rat out of an act
- 39:19Speaker 3: due to aqueduct, she's gonna be starting to stalk her ex, right.
- 39:24Speaker 5: So don't don't, don't even play by those rules.
- 39:27Speaker 3: But regardless, as soon as the woman hits the work
- 39:31Speaker 3: necessary to build a life, and she has experienced throughout
- 39:35Speaker 3: the courtship not having to pull her own weight, what
- 39:38Speaker 3: does she do. She starts to think that she's being
- 39:41Speaker 3: taken advantage of. Yep, yeah, this is the thing. Courtship
- 39:47Speaker 3: is to demonstrate at most that a man will provide
- 39:50Speaker 3: for you when you are incapable of providing for yourself,
- 39:53Speaker 3: which is taking care of children, gestation, lactation, taking care
- 39:57Speaker 3: of young children. It's not in order to show that
- 40:01Speaker 3: the man is gonna haul your ass from A to
- 40:04Speaker 3: Z for the rest of your frickin life. And that's
- 40:07Speaker 3: what this song is about. It's about a woman who
- 40:10Speaker 3: doesn't want to lift her own fucking head. She gets
- 40:14Speaker 3: no sense of pride, no sense of self from doing
- 40:20Speaker 3: for herself none whatsoever. All she does is all she
- 40:25Speaker 3: gets it from is victimhood and getting other people to
- 40:28Speaker 3: do things for her, and that is it's sad and
- 40:32Speaker 3: you cannot have a relationship with someone like that. I
- 40:36Speaker 3: hate saying this, but wait for Sax, wait for AI
- 40:40Speaker 3: and relationship bots I'm gonna call them. I'm gonna call
- 40:43Speaker 3: them girlfriend bots because it's not sex bots at this point.
- 40:47Speaker 3: It's someone who can at least emulate a sense of gratitude,
- 40:53Speaker 3: fair play, and reciprocrocity. All right, I'm done my little rant.
- 41:00Speaker 2: Some more.
- 41:01Speaker 6: Her voice is really interesting. I'm gonna go and scoop
- 41:03Speaker 6: back to the first verse. I think she's probably kind
- 41:06Speaker 6: of a metso alto singer. And if you she's bringing
- 41:10Speaker 6: her head voice down really low, so it's good to because.
- 41:12Speaker 1: She talks a little bit about the you know, the
- 41:15Speaker 1: the music science or whatever.
- 41:17Speaker 2: I don't know if that's as interesting. Two fifty.
- 41:22Speaker 1: I guess there might be more on feminism here, but
- 41:24Speaker 1: there isn't a lot.
- 41:26Speaker 6: Twenty six seconds in and.
- 41:29Speaker 7: The ways below.
- 41:33Speaker 6: The hot Child, it's quite hard for me to stay
- 41:37Speaker 6: in head voice out though Hoo turns the hard chard
- 41:40Speaker 6: would be an easier to do the slightly hard voice.
- 41:44Speaker 6: It sounds like someone who has sat by herself in
- 41:47Speaker 6: her room and some with her guitar not too loude
- 41:50Speaker 6: so people can't hear next door, and it means that
- 41:54Speaker 6: then she's maked it really really close, and you get
- 41:56Speaker 6: all the sounds of her mouth and the movement. It's
- 42:00Speaker 6: very precise, very small. And then when we get into
- 42:03Speaker 6: this chorus, let's have a look, there's.
- 42:05Speaker 1: A big all right, I'm pausing it there for the banana.
- 42:08Speaker 1: I got a super chaar.
- 42:09Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
- 42:09Speaker 1: A rumble rant from Nova fan twenty one, who says,
- 42:13Speaker 1: I hope these insufferable women get even more insufferable and
- 42:17Speaker 1: then get surprised when men refuse to put up with them.
- 42:20Speaker 1: They would ironically create their own handmade's tail. Well, yeah,
- 42:24Speaker 1: I mean that's been going on for a while.
- 42:25Speaker 2: There's there are ways that.
- 42:27Speaker 1: Women take themselves out of the dating pool, and it's
- 42:31Speaker 1: usually because they're they're they're delusional.
- 42:35Speaker 2: I don't know what else say they're delusional about, like.
- 42:38Speaker 1: The way first of all, you know, they they don't
- 42:41Speaker 1: treat men like human beings with their own laws.
- 42:44Speaker 2: What was that? That was me? Oh, you sounded really
- 42:47Speaker 2: weird for a second there.
- 42:49Speaker 3: Okay, sorry about that. I was just fixing, fixing my
- 42:52Speaker 3: like moving things around here in my little nest of wires. Yeah, okay,
- 42:58Speaker 3: so well, yeah, that's the and the unrealistic thing is
- 43:03Speaker 3: they want to like have a man crawl into their
- 43:07Speaker 3: skin and live their life for them. It's like, that's
- 43:10Speaker 3: not what a man is for. For companionship. You know,
- 43:15Speaker 3: it's uh to have an extra pair of hands when
- 43:18Speaker 3: you need something done. You know, it's to build a
- 43:21Speaker 3: life together. It's not two totally take over the entirety
- 43:26Speaker 3: of your agency and breathe for you. He makes labor,
- 43:32Speaker 3: He doesn't breathe.
- 43:35Speaker 8: Right.
- 43:36Speaker 1: Women have been liberated right out of like reality, like
- 43:39Speaker 1: there they can't even perceive what they're supposed They're so
- 43:42Speaker 1: liberated they don't even know what life is. And I
- 43:46Speaker 1: think it's actually a really tragic thing. They need a
- 43:49Speaker 1: wake up call, they really do, because I mean, it's
- 43:53Speaker 1: either gonna Like the thing about it is that suffering
- 43:57Speaker 1: is inevitable, and the longer you put it off by
- 44:01Speaker 1: like trying to like avoid it or protect yourself from
- 44:03Speaker 1: it or whatever without actually confronting it, the harder it's
- 44:08Speaker 1: going to be. And I mean, like some people are
- 44:11Speaker 1: gonna get through it, and they're gonna be better for
- 44:14Speaker 1: it in the long run.
- 44:15Speaker 2: But I don't have a lot of hope.
- 44:18Speaker 1: For some of these women that live in these bubbles
- 44:20Speaker 1: because they're they're completely like.
- 44:23Speaker 2: Living in a different reality.
- 44:25Speaker 1: It's so safe for them and they're so free that
- 44:28Speaker 1: they don't know how bad it could get. I mean
- 44:31Speaker 1: people in Germany are figuring that out. But I mean, like,
- 44:34Speaker 1: but yeah, Western women they think that it's the worst
- 44:37Speaker 1: time to be alive right now, And it's like, are
- 44:40Speaker 1: you kidding me?
- 44:43Speaker 3: You know, well, I mean maybe it's the worst time
- 44:46Speaker 3: because they feel like life is pointless. But the other
- 44:49Speaker 3: but you're constructing that by not allowing your actions to
- 44:52Speaker 3: have meaning.
- 44:53Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean whose job is it to make your
- 44:55Speaker 2: life have a point? Yeah?
- 44:57Speaker 5: Exactly.
- 44:57Speaker 3: And I think maybe that's the fury they have towards men,
- 45:01Speaker 3: is that men can do everything, but make your life
- 45:04Speaker 3: have a point. You have to do that for yourself.
- 45:07Speaker 3: And actually men can't do everything. But that's part of
- 45:10Speaker 3: what confuses me about these women. It's like I would
- 45:13Speaker 3: want to do Like when she says you made me
- 45:16Speaker 3: do too much labor, I'm like, well, what kind of
- 45:18Speaker 3: labor does he make you do? Because some kinds of
- 45:22Speaker 3: labor were really worth doing. And when you take responsibility
- 45:26Speaker 3: for them you grow.
- 45:28Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have to take baths and cook
- 45:32Speaker 1: yourself meals.
- 45:33Speaker 3: And we're not talking about.
- 45:36Speaker 1: Their clothes on take out the trash. Maybe you live alone,
- 45:40Speaker 1: you should know how to do those things, is what
- 45:42Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, why is it that, for example, these
- 45:46Speaker 1: you know, female dating strategy types that will say that
- 45:51Speaker 1: like having a man is a problem because the men
- 45:53Speaker 1: are not doing things around the house, not sharing in
- 45:56Speaker 1: the housework, or they're not doing their part of the housework.
- 45:58Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, but if you live you'd have
- 46:00Speaker 1: to do those things too, So like what's the what
- 46:03Speaker 1: are you talking about?
- 46:04Speaker 2: Like do you do? You not? Do you live in
- 46:07Speaker 2: your root in your own.
- 46:08Speaker 1: Ship and you don't take any trash out, and you
- 46:10Speaker 1: don't go to the bathroom, and you don't put on clothes,
- 46:12Speaker 1: and you don't shower, you don't wash your hair. You
- 46:14Speaker 1: just sit there and just like shit yourself and then
- 46:17Speaker 1: starve to death because nobody fed you.
- 46:19Speaker 2: Like what what like what is your life?
- 46:22Speaker 3: Return to the to the the the ultimate infancy, the
- 46:27Speaker 3: ultimate state of utter infancy.
- 46:29Speaker 1: So yeah, don't get mad because like if you like,
- 46:32Speaker 1: if you live alone, you have to take care of
- 46:34Speaker 1: yourself and you have to take care of your home.
- 46:37Speaker 1: If you live with someone, like you're married or something,
- 46:40Speaker 1: then you have to you know, you do this as
- 46:43Speaker 1: a team. That's what people do. It's very I don't
- 46:48Speaker 1: even like, why am I explaining this. I don't understand.
- 46:52Speaker 6: Simple thing.
- 46:54Speaker 3: Just ask yourself what you would have to do without
- 46:56Speaker 3: your partner. There you go, that's it. And in many
- 46:59Speaker 3: case these women wouldn't even be able to pay their
- 47:01Speaker 3: own bills without their partner. Well, yeah, I wonder how
- 47:06Speaker 3: many there are still living at home with their parents.
- 47:09Speaker 2: But you know, there is no.
- 47:13Speaker 1: Push to get them out. Like we judge men based
- 47:18Speaker 1: on whether or not they live with their parents and
- 47:20Speaker 1: if they.
- 47:21Speaker 2: Don't like, what do they like?
- 47:22Speaker 1: What does their situation look like? We don't do that
- 47:24Speaker 1: to women at all. I remember I knew a guy
- 47:27Speaker 1: who was my boss.
- 47:27Speaker 2: When I used to work in an art supply store
- 47:30Speaker 2: and I was the assistant manager. He was a store
- 47:31Speaker 2: manager and he.
- 47:32Speaker 1: Had a wife and they were very happy, and I've
- 47:36Speaker 1: been to his plays and we would hang out and
- 47:37Speaker 1: watch movies. And then one day his wife got just
- 47:42Speaker 1: he caught our cheating on him, and they got a divorce.
- 47:45Speaker 1: And they both had to move in with their parents
- 47:48Speaker 1: for a while because they were sharing everything, and then
- 47:51Speaker 1: they had to live on their own. And he was
- 47:54Speaker 1: so ashamed of having to live with his parents for
- 47:56Speaker 1: any period of time. And he was like, I can't
- 47:59Speaker 1: even start dating again, because he was like in his forties, right,
- 48:02Speaker 1: I can't even eve of like going back out there
- 48:04Speaker 1: and dating again until my situation changes.
- 48:07Speaker 2: And he was right to think that.
- 48:09Speaker 1: But his ex wife no problem, found a guy right away,
- 48:12Speaker 1: lived at home with her parents. Why because men don't
- 48:15Speaker 1: do that, They don't hold women to those standards. Maybe
- 48:17Speaker 1: they should maybe that, you know, if we want like
- 48:20Speaker 1: something that it looks like equality, maybe men should start
- 48:23Speaker 1: saying do you live at home with your parents?
- 48:25Speaker 2: Do you like live in your mom's basement like a loser?
- 48:28Speaker 2: You know, they should maybe that.
- 48:31Speaker 3: It is This is actually a very unique time period
- 48:35Speaker 3: because men would have hold held women to those standards
- 48:37Speaker 3: in the past. Do you have a dowry?
- 48:39Speaker 4: Miss?
- 48:41Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 48:41Speaker 3: Do you know how to keep it home? Do you
- 48:44Speaker 3: have other skills in terms of.
- 48:46Speaker 5: Being able to buy and sell?
- 48:48Speaker 8: Like?
- 48:48Speaker 3: What what will you bring to our a household, to
- 48:51Speaker 3: a potential household? Because I'm not just marrying a lump.
- 48:54Speaker 3: That used to be a conversation people would have about
- 48:58Speaker 3: building a relationship, building a marriage, building a family. Don't
- 49:02Speaker 3: do that anymore. It's just basically incredibly one sided. Is
- 49:07Speaker 3: this is the first era in which well, you know,
- 49:09Speaker 3: no equivalente answer the question what do you bring to
- 49:13Speaker 3: the table?
- 49:13Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, Well I was gonna say, you know what,
- 49:15Speaker 1: the equivalent of this today is probably the single mom.
- 49:20Speaker 2: And I mean like that's sort of like the parallel.
- 49:22Speaker 1: It's like, essentially you have failed at life, or at
- 49:28Speaker 1: least you're struggling, and you're and and this your situation
- 49:33Speaker 1: is a red flag. So a woman with kids from
- 49:35Speaker 1: a previous man or whatever irresponsible with her fertility is
- 49:40Speaker 1: I guess the closest thing to a guy who is
- 49:44Speaker 1: a failure to launch, that's like stuck at home. And
- 49:47Speaker 1: even then that guy can change his situation, you know,
- 49:50Speaker 1: if he like he puts his mind to it. The
- 49:53Speaker 1: woman might be in a worse situation because it's like
- 49:56Speaker 1: those decisions should have been made before.
- 49:57Speaker 2: But I think it's the closest thing.
- 49:59Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, and and the thing is
- 50:02Speaker 1: is that men will wipe up single moms they'll they'll
- 50:05Speaker 1: do it, so it's not even that even then the
- 50:08Speaker 1: men aren't like as dismissive. So anyway, do you want
- 50:13Speaker 1: to listen to more? Yes of the music analysis Okay.
- 50:18Speaker 6: Drum underneath which she makes it really tribal, but she
- 50:21Speaker 6: is going lower and warmer rather than higher and bigger.
- 50:26Speaker 7: They thoughts.
- 50:33Speaker 8: Cracking.
- 50:36Speaker 3: Sometimes I feel like I just crush these women by
- 50:39Speaker 3: looking at them. They're just like, where the hell did
- 50:43Speaker 3: you come from? Some sort of other dimension in which
- 50:47Speaker 3: people are made out of floss like gossamer, sugar floss
- 50:51Speaker 3: and light like, yeah.
- 50:56Speaker 2: I got a super chow.
- 51:00Speaker 1: Great Indoors gives us ten dollars and says if you
- 51:03Speaker 1: would look at Hal's sees music video Girl is a Gun, Yes,
- 51:08Speaker 1: the artist HBr reviewed previously the one with Trent Reznor
- 51:13Speaker 1: or Last Dinner Parties music video Feminine Urge. They both
- 51:17Speaker 1: feature women in eighteenth century dresses and mansions having some
- 51:21Speaker 1: sort of a mental breakdown.
- 51:24Speaker 2: Life is greater than Art, is greater than life, et cetera,
- 51:28Speaker 2: or maybe he needs his a. Life imitates art imitates light. Life.
- 51:32Speaker 1: Also, if you go on the website AllMusic dot Com,
- 51:35Speaker 1: a website a frequently visited in the past. It now
- 51:39Speaker 1: has an article up talking about the importance of queer representation.
- 51:43Speaker 1: Last new music I thought was in twenty eleven, but
- 51:46Speaker 1: last new music I bought was in twenty eleven.
- 51:49Speaker 2: I'm mainly interested in reissues now.
- 51:51Speaker 1: But then again, biovinyl and Brickwall remastering has put a
- 51:56Speaker 1: dent in that as well.
- 51:59Speaker 2: So that was a lot. Did Is he the one
- 52:01Speaker 2: who sent this in? No, he's not. That was Rich Okay, okay.
- 52:09Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the thing about the eighteenth century dresses thing,
- 52:13Speaker 1: I think that's a there's like I don't know, maybe
- 52:18Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but I think that women they they want
- 52:22Speaker 1: when they want to make a statement, but they also
- 52:24Speaker 1: want not just like a political political statement.
- 52:28Speaker 2: It's not really political, so much is just whining.
- 52:30Speaker 1: But they want to make a whiny political statement, and
- 52:33Speaker 1: but they also want it to look good. So they
- 52:35Speaker 1: have this They're drawn to this Victorian stuff like big time, right.
- 52:40Speaker 1: They love it, even though they think it's like the
- 52:42Speaker 1: worst time to be alive, I mean, after the modern type,
- 52:46Speaker 1: the modern days. So and I think that the eighteenth
- 52:51Speaker 1: century thing, it's like I said, like it's just so
- 52:53Speaker 1: easy if you think about it. I think women are
- 52:56Speaker 1: kind of attached at the hip to culture and whatever
- 52:59Speaker 1: culture is doing, like like television, movies, whatever, they will
- 53:04Speaker 1: make it their personality. They'll like make that their identity.
- 53:08Speaker 1: So you know, if everyone's watching, like I don't know,
- 53:11Speaker 1: whatever's on Netflix, there's probably like period movies and shows
- 53:15Speaker 1: that take place in Victorian whatever with like black queens
- 53:20Speaker 1: and whatnot.
- 53:20Speaker 2: And then the women will watch that and they'll love.
- 53:22Speaker 1: The dresses because it's all about the costumes and stuff
- 53:25Speaker 1: and the drama. And then they'll they'll use that aesthetic
- 53:29Speaker 1: to say something else that they think is really important,
- 53:32Speaker 1: even though it's just lame. So I don't know that
- 53:36Speaker 1: I would like put that much stock into this image
- 53:40Speaker 1: of a woman in the eighteenth century dress having a
- 53:43Speaker 1: mental breakdown, because I mean, she could just be wearing
- 53:46Speaker 1: a T shirt and jeans.
- 53:49Speaker 2: You just think it's more, it's cooler. It's just like, oh,
- 53:52Speaker 2: I like the aesthetic.
- 53:53Speaker 8: Right.
- 53:54Speaker 3: Ultimately, her complaints is simply that he makes her do
- 53:57Speaker 3: too much labor. You thought you were going to be saved.
- 53:59Speaker 2: From lay in a Victorian dress, right, Don't.
- 54:02Speaker 3: You don't you want to do for yourself? Like, don't
- 54:06Speaker 3: you want to feel like you're part of something that
- 54:09Speaker 3: you are a you know, like you're you're a partner
- 54:13Speaker 3: in something that you're building, Like why would you? Why
- 54:16Speaker 3: is laziness the ultimate being saved?
- 54:19Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Okay, all right, I guess we'll listen more.
- 54:26Speaker 6: Yes, I love that syncopation. If love ends not really
- 54:32Speaker 6: such a.
- 54:32Speaker 1: Good sense syncopation is what does it say? Rhythms that
- 54:36Speaker 1: accent or emphasize the offbeats?
- 54:39Speaker 6: Okay, rhythm, She's got such a good sense of rhythm.
- 54:42Speaker 6: That warmth is a really different way of doing it.
- 54:45Speaker 6: Normally you rise up into the chorus. She's coming back
- 54:48Speaker 6: down and being warmer and then layering those vocals so.
- 54:51Speaker 1: You do have so yeah, I mean most of this
- 54:53Speaker 1: video is really just her analyzing the music itself from
- 54:56Speaker 1: like a you know, just purely like mechanical perspective, which
- 55:01Speaker 1: I mean, did Richard beerre watch this video? Yeah? Because
- 55:05Speaker 1: I don't know if I miss something, I could jump
- 55:07Speaker 1: ahead to the next thing.
- 55:09Speaker 5: Well, maybe he'll.
- 55:10Speaker 3: Give us a time code that he was in particular.
- 55:12Speaker 3: I think it's just the analysis of the music itself.
- 55:17Speaker 2: I could just I could I have the all the
- 55:19Speaker 2: lyrics right in front of me. I could just reach it.
- 55:21Speaker 5: Let me just ask something really quick.
- 55:22Speaker 3: Does at any point does she say, oh, these lyrics
- 55:26Speaker 3: are awesome and they really evoke the feeling of being
- 55:30Speaker 3: a woman in.
- 55:33Speaker 2: Whatever.
- 55:34Speaker 5: Whenever, However, does she ever say.
- 55:36Speaker 2: That, Oh, I don't I watched it, but I thought
- 55:41Speaker 2: that after this, it's just like there isn't much.
- 55:44Speaker 1: She kind of gushes over the song and doesn't really
- 55:47Speaker 1: make any political statements or anything about the lyrics, just
- 55:51Speaker 1: like her the technique that this singer is using from
- 55:55Speaker 1: what I remember.
- 55:57Speaker 2: So.
- 55:59Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sure, let's just go the go through the
- 56:01Speaker 3: lyrics real.
- 56:02Speaker 1: Raven is saying, this is a music production, Why don't
- 56:05Speaker 1: you react to the music directly? Well, I don't know
- 56:07Speaker 1: that that's what we're supposed to be doing. I think
- 56:09Speaker 1: we're talking about the lyrics.
- 56:11Speaker 3: Yeah, you realize that we'll get YEATD if.
- 56:13Speaker 2: We do that. Yeah, I'm not.
- 56:16Speaker 1: I don't want to tear down music producers that are
- 56:18Speaker 1: good at their job. I mean, like I said, she's
- 56:20Speaker 1: got she she made a boneheaded comment about feminism, but
- 56:24Speaker 1: like everybody who does usually makes a bone headed comment
- 56:27Speaker 1: about it.
- 56:28Speaker 3: So yeah, you have to sort of grade on a
- 56:30Speaker 3: curve when it comes to feminism. Yeah, most people aren't
- 56:33Speaker 3: as deep into the swamp as us. You know, they
- 56:36Speaker 3: were not quite as hardened, certainly not as much as me.
- 56:39Speaker 3: Like twenty years of of seeing feminists marginalized male victims
- 56:44Speaker 3: has made me very hardened.
- 56:45Speaker 5: Shall we see? Shall we say?
- 56:48Speaker 2: But I mean people are saying that she's not like misinderous,
- 56:52Speaker 2: But look, I said she does. She does say.
- 56:55Speaker 1: This is an anthem for feminism and young women. And
- 56:59Speaker 1: I'm not saying that means that she hates men, but
- 57:01Speaker 1: that means that she does co sign feminist, which is
- 57:06Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Like I mean, she
- 57:09Speaker 1: hasn't obviously been I don't.
- 57:10Speaker 2: I don't think she's an activist per se.
- 57:13Speaker 3: And we haven't really called her out.
- 57:15Speaker 1: No, I haven't said anything about her. Mostly we've been
- 57:18Speaker 1: talking about the lyrics.
- 57:19Speaker 3: We've basically just been using responding to her video to
- 57:23Speaker 3: respond to the song so we don't have to directly
- 57:26Speaker 3: respond to the song and get YEATD see how we're
- 57:29Speaker 3: being sneaky, all right, but we can read some lyrics
- 57:32Speaker 3: and we'll respond directly to the lyrics just.
- 57:34Speaker 5: To speed this up.
- 57:35Speaker 2: Do you want me to read the lyrics? Okay? Well,
- 57:37Speaker 2: I got them right here. I also have the reddit
- 57:42Speaker 2: that we could look at as well.
- 57:43Speaker 5: But oh, yes, definitely.
- 57:47Speaker 3: Oh and also, guys, if you do want to support us,
- 57:50Speaker 3: I did just get the fundraiser up, so it's feedbadgery
- 57:54Speaker 3: dot com slash support and uh and actually great, indoors,
- 57:59Speaker 3: are you suggesting you would like us to go through
- 58:02Speaker 3: a song?
- 58:06Speaker 5: If so, then just something.
- 58:07Speaker 2: I don't love playing music videos?
- 58:10Speaker 3: You playing music videos is not something that we really
- 58:13Speaker 3: can do.
- 58:14Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's what he said, take a look, get
- 58:17Speaker 2: away with stuff?
- 58:18Speaker 3: We get away with nothing nothing like Yeah, because because
- 58:22Speaker 3: we're being written by a mault, like an entire alphabet
- 58:25Speaker 3: soup worth of agencies.
- 58:28Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I don't. I don't have a well.
- 58:32Speaker 1: Look, the music itself is not my cup of tea.
- 58:35Speaker 1: Like I said, it's all starting to blend together. I
- 58:38Speaker 1: think the general quality of our culture is in decline.
- 58:42Speaker 1: I'm not saying that no one can make anything good,
- 58:45Speaker 1: but like the stuff that tends to the yeah, the
- 58:49Speaker 1: stuff that tends to rise to the top.
- 58:52Speaker 2: I didn't watch the Grammys. Yes, what was it the
- 58:54Speaker 2: other day was the Grammys?
- 58:56Speaker 1: I didn't watch them because I don't watch award shows anymore.
- 58:58Speaker 1: I haven't for many years. Yes, but I would not
- 59:02Speaker 1: be surprised if all of the music that was like
- 59:05Speaker 1: that one or was nominated was something that I couldn't
- 59:09Speaker 1: get into because I don't. I haven't really heard anything
- 59:13Speaker 1: new that's good in a while that's popular. So but anyway,
- 59:17Speaker 1: all right, lyrics, So here's the bridge. This came after
- 59:21Speaker 1: the last set of lyrics I read all day every
- 59:24Speaker 1: day therapist mother made so not okay. So there's more
- 59:28Speaker 1: about labor stuff, right, Nymph than a virgin nurse than
- 59:32Speaker 1: a servant, just an appendage lived to attend him so
- 59:37Speaker 1: that he never lifts a finger twenty four to seven,
- 59:40Speaker 1: baby machine, so he can live out his picket fence dreams.
- 59:44Speaker 1: It's not an act of love. If you make her,
- 59:47Speaker 1: you make me do too much labor. Wow, that was
- 59:52Speaker 1: like a real, a real mother load of crap right there.
- 59:56Speaker 1: Let me put it on the screen so you guys
- 59:58Speaker 1: can see it.
- 59:59Speaker 2: So this is the break every day therapist mother.
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: Made Nymph and a virgin nurse and a servant just
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: an appendance live to attend him so that he never
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: lifts a finger twenty four to seven, baby machine, so
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: he can live out his picket fence streams. It's a
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: non an act of love. If you make her, you
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: make me do too much labor gish gallup in a song. Yeah, Alison,
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: you'r I can't hear you if you're talking. I still
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: can't hear you if you're talking.
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, I'm back.
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: Well let's discuss this, all right, So what is acceptable labor?
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: Okay, all day, every day, therapist, mother.
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: Mother maid? Okay, what is acceptable labor bringing in half
- 1:00:59Speaker 3: the income?
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: What does okay, Well, let's just go when one thing
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: at a time. So what is meant by therapists? Do
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: you mean that if he has like if he's struggling
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: with something and and he has problems at his job
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: or at home or something else, that you don't think
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: that you should help him with that?
- 1:01:21Speaker 8: Like?
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: What did people do before therapists existed when they were
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: when they were stressed out or dealing with something? What
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: did men maybe depend on their wives to help them?
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: Isn't that like what it means to be somebody's partner.
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: Well, they might go down to the pub and talk
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: to their you know, friends, but can't do that anymore
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: because pubs were forced to be miss mixed sex. They
- 1:01:49Speaker 3: could have gone to gentlemen's clubs. Nope, they could have
- 1:01:53Speaker 3: I mean, if if you don't want to do this labor,
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: then you have to allow men the space to do it.
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: I mean, do you love him or not? Like if
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: you if you love him, is it labor?
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: Like when you when you have children and and you
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: have babies who are completely helpless, are they labor?
- 1:02:19Speaker 8: Like?
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: What?
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: What is it?
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: What is it in women's.
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: Brains that makes them see people who who they who
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: depend on them as some kind of obstacle.
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: I think the honest to god truth, Brian, is that
- 1:02:33Speaker 3: they've been utterly and completely broken by a world that
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: doesn't demand enough from them. That and the and what
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: I mean by demanding enough is I think that women
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: have been broken by this socialization. And like this is
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: the first time in human history that women don't have
- 1:02:49Speaker 3: their own job. They don't have their own skills that
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: are recognized like spinning and weaving. They don't have their
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: own space where they can pursue a job, which you
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: know it's and it's like it's like their brains have
- 1:03:03Speaker 3: dropped out of their hands.
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: You make it sound like that they would do it
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: if they knew they could do it, they don't want to.
- 1:03:08Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I'm not saying that at this
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: point in time. I'm not saying that's the truth. I'm
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: saying that after generations of this, I think they've lost
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: their way profoundly. And it's like like if you took
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: a kid and gave them absolutely no way of understanding
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: the consequences of their actions or how they could take
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: care of themselves, you would understand the damage that does. Right,
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: It's like you have to go out of your way
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: to teach Like I have a dog, I have to
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: go out of my way to teach the dog how
- 1:03:42Speaker 3: to behave in certain circumstances. Still, I you know, fail
- 1:03:45Speaker 3: in some ways. But but if you don't do that,
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: if you don't teach them these things, they don't have
- 1:03:54Speaker 3: the skills. Like, for example, if you punish the dog
- 1:03:58Speaker 3: for barking, the dog gains control over his barking. Right.
- 1:04:04Speaker 3: If you don't actually punish people for certain behavior, they
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: don't gain control over that behavior, Like they become compulsive
- 1:04:13Speaker 3: about that behavior. We have nothing in our society that
- 1:04:16Speaker 3: punishes women when they pay to play the victim. So
- 1:04:19Speaker 3: they have completely dissolved into that, and it's just like
- 1:04:25Speaker 3: it's it's like watching a person's brain melt and anything
- 1:04:31Speaker 3: any ask they can't stand up to. Like they talk
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: about liberation and empowerment, but they've become so fragile they
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: can't stand up to things that.
- 1:04:46Speaker 5: Anything.
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: They can't stand up to adversity or suffering somebody else's responsibility,
- 1:04:52Speaker 3: anything that they suffer somebody else's responsibility, so they gain
- 1:04:55Speaker 3: no growth. Like that quote that you have repeated several times,
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: what's the quote suffering?
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: Oh, it's let me look it up really quick. I
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: can't remember right now. I'll just think me a second, omens.
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: I think it's like, yeah, because it's in the Bible, okay,
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: so uh yeah, uh, rejoice in your sufferings because suffering
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: produces endurance.
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: Endurance produces character, and character produces hope. And I think
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: that's true.
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: I mean I've been through a lot, and I think
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: that it's like, you know, after cancer and having to
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: flee the city and everything else, and and Lindsay sticking
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: by me this through the whole thing, which was absolutely humongous.
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: I think that it's put me in that position of
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: I don't get blackpilled, you know. So yeah, yeah, but think.
- 1:05:59Speaker 3: About it, We've tried to remove all of women's labor,
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: all of women's suffering, and they have developed nothing in
- 1:06:07Speaker 3: the way of endurance, nothing in the way of character
- 1:06:11Speaker 3: and everything, Like in a relationship, simply being asked to
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: care about your partner, to listen to his troubles has
- 1:06:19Speaker 3: become too big of an ask and they can't stand
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: up to the least amount of expectation. And it's I
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: don't know what to say, I don't know how to
- 1:06:30Speaker 3: I don't know what to do to change that. But
- 1:06:34Speaker 3: it's it's what do you have have character? Like what
- 1:06:38Speaker 3: do you have if you don't have your ability to
- 1:06:42Speaker 3: overcome adversity? Like what do you have left if you
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: don't have that?
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the suffering is the suffering is coming.
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: There's like it, and the longer you put it off,
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: the worse it's.
- 1:06:55Speaker 6: Going to be.
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: Well, see how and how you respond to it is
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: going to determine, like you know, whether or not you
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: continue to suffer or if you will actually like find
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: some hope.
- 1:07:09Speaker 3: If they are complaining about this, they they have they
- 1:07:14Speaker 3: are in for a rude awakening, then virgin than a servant,
- 1:07:19Speaker 3: like well, first of all right. Now, in the US,
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: according to the General Social Survey, men do about four
- 1:07:27Speaker 3: to five hours more work a week than women. And
- 1:07:30Speaker 3: that isn't even accounting for the fact that men and
- 1:07:32Speaker 3: women judge work differently. A woman will, like a if
- 1:07:37Speaker 3: a man and a woman are doing laundry, a woman
- 1:07:40Speaker 3: will call it work from the moment she puts the
- 1:07:44Speaker 3: laundry into the washing machine and turns it on, and
- 1:07:49Speaker 3: then goes and reads a book and waits for it
- 1:07:52Speaker 3: to stop. She will count that as as as labor.
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: So she puts the turns the washing machine on, she
- 1:08:00Speaker 3: goes and reads a book I don't know with fabio
- 1:08:03Speaker 3: on the cover. And then when it's chimes, she goes in.
- 1:08:06Speaker 3: She puts it into the dryer, she turns it on,
- 1:08:10Speaker 3: goes reads the book, the chimes, she takes it out,
- 1:08:13Speaker 3: and she folds it. You know, like maybe three hours right,
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: All of that she will list as labor. Every single
- 1:08:20Speaker 3: minute of that will be three hours of labor that
- 1:08:24Speaker 3: she did. A man will do exactly the same task,
- 1:08:28Speaker 3: and he will estimate his labor how long it took
- 1:08:31Speaker 3: him to turn it on, put the stuff in, how
- 1:08:35Speaker 3: long it took him to move it into the washer
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: and then turn it on, and how long it took
- 1:08:41Speaker 3: him to fold it. So three hours of labor that
- 1:08:45Speaker 3: a woman will say that she did is like twenty
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: five for a man. So you got to imagine the
- 1:08:50Speaker 3: general social survey has women saying, well, I was doing
- 1:08:54Speaker 3: laundry for three hours and Sunday morning, and a man
- 1:08:58Speaker 3: is like, well, I was doing injury for twenty five
- 1:09:00Speaker 3: minutes Sunday morning. So how much does that actually how
- 1:09:05Speaker 3: much does that actually distort the picture when it comes
- 1:09:07Speaker 3: to men and women?
- 1:09:08Speaker 7: We don't know.
- 1:09:10Speaker 3: And these are questions that are asked that are not
- 1:09:12Speaker 3: that are not accommodated. But we do know that at
- 1:09:16Speaker 3: the very least, men do four to five more hours
- 1:09:19Speaker 3: a week.
- 1:09:20Speaker 5: Okay, And if you're going to include.
- 1:09:23Speaker 3: Mental labor, what about the it's not a nail mental
- 1:09:27Speaker 3: labor that men are expected to do, right, yeah, what
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: I mean?
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: Women will call it men. Men are never women's therapists.
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: That doesn't happen.
- 1:09:40Speaker 3: Are you kidding?
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: Like?
- 1:09:42Speaker 3: Are you Okay? Here's an example of a one sided relationship.
- 1:09:48Speaker 3: My husband's mother comes over and lays out all of
- 1:09:51Speaker 3: the drama, all of the stuff going on, and he
- 1:09:55Speaker 3: doesn't say the same back. And this is what I
- 1:09:57Speaker 3: see constantly, And this is not considered a mos labor
- 1:10:01Speaker 3: because men don't see their relationships with women in the
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: same way. They're not constantly sharpening their pencils and saying, wow,
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: I listen to you for approximately thirteen and sixteen seconds.
- 1:10:15Speaker 3: That is thirteen and sixteen seconds more than you listen.
- 1:10:18Speaker 3: You know, they don't do that. You just see something
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: that needs fixing and they do it. You know they
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: need They see a woman with a nail in her
- 1:10:26Speaker 3: head and her saying well, it's not about the nail,
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: and they have the emotional labor of biting their tongue
- 1:10:31Speaker 3: and saying, well, how does the nail make you feel
- 1:10:34Speaker 3: dear right? And what about the emotional labor that men
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: do during conflicts because conflicts, relationship conflicts are actually more
- 1:10:43Speaker 3: anxiety inducing for men, so they have to be able
- 1:10:46Speaker 3: to manage their anxiety more than women do because.
- 1:10:50Speaker 5: They have more of it.
- 1:10:51Speaker 3: Is that considered emotional labor, Like, well, let's get down
- 1:10:54Speaker 3: to the nitty gritty, let's do a real audit of
- 1:10:57Speaker 3: who is doing what in relationships. I think that women
- 1:11:00Speaker 3: would be quite surprised there would be fastly shocked. At
- 1:11:06Speaker 3: what men are actually doing in their relationships, how little
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: men lean.
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: On them for their emention. We don't even study that though,
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: No we don't.
- 1:11:17Speaker 3: We just indulge in this idea that if women are
- 1:11:20Speaker 3: asked anything, it's too much. And the funny thing is,
- 1:11:24Speaker 3: I know why we do this because this is what
- 1:11:27Speaker 3: generates guilt in men, and guilt in men generates investment
- 1:11:32Speaker 3: in the system.
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:11:34Speaker 3: That's women are guilt dispensers. They just vomit out guilt
- 1:11:37Speaker 3: and that's their purpose in life, and it's destroying their
- 1:11:40Speaker 3: mental health. It's destroying their sense of self, it's destroying
- 1:11:45Speaker 3: their sense of purpose in life. That's what I say
- 1:11:52Speaker 3: when I say that it's like this kind of corruption.
- 1:11:55Speaker 3: I don't think women are like this outside this kind
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: of social corruption, Brian. I mean, after all, one hundred
- 1:12:04Speaker 3: years ago, our grandmothers were people were like, oh, you
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: should have the vote, and they were like no, So
- 1:12:10Speaker 3: obviously they had some kind of wisdom or understanding, okay,
- 1:12:16Speaker 3: and they did vote, like women predominantly voted conservative up
- 1:12:19Speaker 3: to the point where this whole like propagandizing, this this
- 1:12:24Speaker 3: entire propaganda, like they took pages out of Nazi Germany.
- 1:12:34Speaker 3: Propaganda against Jews, segregationists, propaganda against black people, you know,
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: the Ku Klux Klan, propaganda against black people. And I'm
- 1:12:43Speaker 3: not going to get into whether or not it was accurate, okay,
- 1:12:46Speaker 3: but they took all of that those visual tropes. Feminists
- 1:12:51Speaker 3: took all of those visual tropes and applied it to men,
- 1:12:55Speaker 3: subjected women to generations of this kind of propaganda. And
- 1:12:59Speaker 3: this is where we're at. I don't know why we
- 1:13:03Speaker 3: did this to ourselves, but here we are.
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: Maybe, well, I think that's a there's another Yeah, that's
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: a whole other show. But all right, so the lyrics,
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: all right, so nymph, then a virgin nurse and a
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: servant just an appendage live to attend him so that
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: he never lives a finger because men don't work twenty
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: four to seven baby machines, so he can live out
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: his picket fence streams. It's not an act of love.
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: If you make her, you make me do too much
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: labor all day, every day, therapist.
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: But it's the same thing. So that's the bridge, you know,
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: his thrall, it's the thrall we're back on that.
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: I don't know, doesn't it say it doesn't matter men
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: do that men do this to women and you're crazy
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: for questioning it.
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: Chorus.
- 1:13:55Speaker 3: It's sort of critical for me, like, I would like
- 1:13:57Speaker 3: to know how this happens.
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: Oh, I know, but they have no interest in answering
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: that question.
- 1:14:03Speaker 3: I would like a good and reasonable argument for why
- 1:14:06Speaker 3: I should give up my sense of responsibility and consequences
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: to my actions in my life, because as far as
- 1:14:15Speaker 3: I can, it's like I've got this little horde of gold,
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: and the feminists are like, you.
- 1:14:19Speaker 5: Don't need that.
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I think.
- 1:14:21Speaker 3: I think you're gonna have to give a better argument
- 1:14:24Speaker 3: to me before I give up my resources to you feminists.
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: All right, all right, So then there's the they do
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: the chorus again. So capillaries and my eyes are bursting
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: all day every day. Therapist, mother maid, if our love died,
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: would that be the worst thing? Nymfenovirgin nurse and a servant.
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: So it's basically the whole thing is about labor. And
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: we've already read so if I go to this reddit,
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: so let me share this with you guys, they're basically
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: then are like, if this is the feminist interpretation of
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: the song, which is kind of on the nose anyway,
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: so it's not like there's a lot to it from
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: Sonic Witchcraft, or at least this is Oh, I'm sorry,
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: I don't know how to read it so because I
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: avoid that place like the plague. But our witches versus
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: patriarchy ask the questions, how do you guys feel about
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: the song Labor by Paris Paloma. It's about the emotional
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: labor women are forced and have been forced to do
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: for hundreds of years. The music video is highly symbolic
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: and the lyrics are fantastic. Here are some details I noticed.
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: I know you're a smart man. I know you're a
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: smart man. And weaponize the false incompetence its dominance under
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: a guise addressing how men will pretend they can't do something,
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: do something badly on purpose, won't do something until they're asked, etc.
- 1:15:45Speaker 3: You know what's really funny is like they recycle things
- 1:15:48Speaker 3: that Hannah Wallin has pointed out about women years ago.
- 1:15:52Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 1:15:53Speaker 3: She talked about she had a blog post. I forget
- 1:15:57Speaker 3: what she called it, but she talked about weapons and
- 1:16:00Speaker 3: competence and how women engage in it in order to
- 1:16:03Speaker 3: avoid certain activities like cleaning bathrooms, picking up.
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: Changing the tire on your car, yeah, and all kinds of.
- 1:16:12Speaker 3: Stuff like that, and painting and all kinds of tasks
- 1:16:16Speaker 3: that are laborious. And now apparently only men do this.
- 1:16:22Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Actually no, first of all, not only men
- 1:16:26Speaker 3: do this. Isn't this isn't another situation where only men
- 1:16:30Speaker 3: do it. It's like this, this constant drive to blame
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: all negative human behavior on men. But regardless, it's just like,
- 1:16:40Speaker 3: first of all, not only men do it. And second
- 1:16:43Speaker 3: of all, does the false incompetence come from not wanting
- 1:16:49Speaker 3: to do it or having done it and then been
- 1:16:52Speaker 3: picked at because you did it wrong? So you simply
- 1:16:58Speaker 3: decide to pretend you can't do it any further? Because
- 1:17:01Speaker 3: this is another thing that women do. They demand men
- 1:17:03Speaker 3: do something and then they micromanage them.
- 1:17:06Speaker 2: Yes, I know about that.
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: Well, it's like they want things done a certain way,
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: and men may have their way of doing things, but
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: instead of doing it themselves, they just insist men do
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: it the way that they want them to do it,
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: and that's when they become micromanagers.
- 1:17:21Speaker 8: Yes.
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: And also this emotional labor thing, like we before we
- 1:17:26Speaker 3: start buying into who does more emotionally, God damn, think
- 1:17:31Speaker 3: of the emotional labor of having to be in a
- 1:17:33Speaker 3: relationship with someone who talks about emotional labor. Yeah, accounting system, good,
- 1:17:42Speaker 3: good fricking lord. You know, I'm actually looking forward to
- 1:17:46Speaker 3: women dating each other. How do you determine who has
- 1:17:49Speaker 3: to do the emotional labor? I guess it's the doctor
- 1:17:51Speaker 3: who makes more. She can't be expected to her partner
- 1:17:56Speaker 3: to do emotional labor because she in the money, so
- 1:18:00Speaker 3: she should be the one who does all the emotional
- 1:18:02Speaker 3: labor in most of the housework. It's it's something that
- 1:18:05Speaker 3: I noticed in the past, Like it was actually a
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: movie that I watched that was about a horror, like
- 1:18:13Speaker 3: a survival horror. There was a zombies and or something
- 1:18:17Speaker 3: was going on, and there was these two women. They
- 1:18:19Speaker 3: were sisters, and what ended up happening is the more
- 1:18:24Speaker 3: sporty and tomboyish of the two girls ended up being
- 1:18:29Speaker 3: put into the man's role. And so her first sister,
- 1:18:33Speaker 3: who was an ungrateful, resentful shit heel, would extort stuff
- 1:18:38Speaker 3: out of her using weaponizing her victimhood. That's another thing
- 1:18:42Speaker 3: that women weaponize victimhood in order to make everything revolve
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: around them.
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: For sure.
- 1:18:47Speaker 3: And she did this and it's like when when women
- 1:18:51Speaker 3: have to contend with other women, what happens is one
- 1:18:54Speaker 3: is sort of crushed into the male role of service
- 1:18:58Speaker 3: to the other and abiding. But and this woman, the
- 1:19:02Speaker 3: sister that was the damsel I guess to the other,
- 1:19:05Speaker 3: the woman's tomboy. She made everything about her everything. And
- 1:19:13Speaker 3: the big climax is the tomboy actually falls in love
- 1:19:17Speaker 3: with this guy and potentially was gonna leave with him,
- 1:19:21Speaker 3: except her sister was raped and she had to stay,
- 1:19:23Speaker 3: and her sister couldn't leave with them for some apparent reason,
- 1:19:28Speaker 3: and it was this big moment that well, actually she
- 1:19:31Speaker 3: just didn't want to or something where her sister used
- 1:19:34Speaker 3: her victimhood to extort the destruction of her other sister's life.
- 1:19:40Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, that's what you got to look
- 1:19:41Speaker 3: forward to, Ladies. One of you will end up being
- 1:19:45Speaker 3: the one who has to sacrifice, the one that's seen
- 1:19:47Speaker 3: this slightly more masculine, the one that has to do
- 1:19:49Speaker 3: the emotional labor, the one that has to pay the bills,
- 1:19:52Speaker 3: the one that obviously should be underwriting everything because you're
- 1:19:56Speaker 3: the doctor and she's a waitress or whatever. Good luck.
- 1:20:00Speaker 3: And what's interesting is now that we have a generation
- 1:20:03Speaker 3: of girls who are pursuing this, their mental health is
- 1:20:06Speaker 3: in the toilet, Like women's mental health has been in
- 1:20:09Speaker 3: the toilet for a long time. But this generation of
- 1:20:11Speaker 3: girls pursuing relationships with other women in a generation they
- 1:20:21Speaker 3: they you know that that mil that Bill Maher joke
- 1:20:24Speaker 3: about lesbians. You know, they're you know, the old lesbians
- 1:20:28Speaker 3: who've been.
- 1:20:29Speaker 5: Maybe it's not Bill Maher, but it was a joke.
- 1:20:30Speaker 3: It was a stand up comedian who talked about, you know,
- 1:20:33Speaker 3: go to a lesbian bar and not the young lesbians
- 1:20:36Speaker 3: who are just fresh, but the ones who've been in
- 1:20:38Speaker 3: the in the scene for like five years, chain smoking
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: and you know, and and shooting back vodka. And they're like, oh,
- 1:20:47Speaker 3: they just look like been on the rigs for ten years.
- 1:20:51Speaker 8: Yea.
- 1:20:52Speaker 3: They just had because they've had to deal with women,
- 1:20:56Speaker 3: m h. And they don't have the emotional hormonal system
- 1:21:04Speaker 3: of men, because you guys are sort of made to
- 1:21:07Speaker 3: deal with us.
- 1:21:09Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, let's keep going.
- 1:21:11Speaker 2: All right.
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: So then they talk a bit about the lyrics, the
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: other lyrics all day every day. Therapist's mother made nymph
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: and a virgin nurse than a servant just an appendage
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: live to attend him so that he never lives a finger.
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: And the feminists under this rites and I know they're
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: feminists because this is witches versus patriarchy, refers to the
- 1:21:31Speaker 1: unfair standards are held up to be crazy in bed.
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: But a virgin be a mother slash nurse first and
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: a wife second. The last line, do all the work
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: so he doesn't even have to even move. But it
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: also means do all the work so he doesn't hit you.
- 1:21:47Speaker 2: Oh my god, go ahead.
- 1:21:50Speaker 3: This is just excuses for failure. It's like I talked
- 1:21:54Speaker 3: about this a while back. I don't know if it
- 1:21:57Speaker 3: was with you or with the writers group, but oh no,
- 1:22:00Speaker 3: I was with you. I talked about how you get
- 1:22:03Speaker 3: these these girl directors. I don't want to say female
- 1:22:06Speaker 3: directors are woman directors, They're just girl directors. You get
- 1:22:08Speaker 3: these girl directors, these woman child directors, and they preload
- 1:22:13Speaker 3: their failures like they march out and there they'll say
- 1:22:17Speaker 3: in front of their producers. Yeah, well, if I lose money,
- 1:22:20Speaker 3: it's because of the evil misogynist who didn't come to
- 1:22:23Speaker 3: see my movie. And by the way, this movie is
- 1:22:25Speaker 3: for men. It isn't for men, and it isn't for picknies.
- 1:22:29Speaker 3: And it isn't for pickny adjacents, and it isn't for
- 1:22:32Speaker 3: straits or sisters or any of you guys. And you know,
- 1:22:37Speaker 3: and if you don't go, you are the bad ones.
- 1:22:40Speaker 3: And it's like and then her movie tanks. But she's
- 1:22:42Speaker 3: pre loaded failure. She's explained why she's gonna fail. This
- 1:22:46Speaker 3: is another thing I find really annoying with women. They
- 1:22:50Speaker 3: seem to love this shit, the pre failure self talk.
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: So this entire song is pre failure of a relationship.
- 1:23:06Speaker 3: So this is this is what she's saying, so that
- 1:23:09Speaker 3: she doesn't have to take responsibility for the failure of
- 1:23:11Speaker 3: a relationship. It's somebody else's fault. She doesn't have to
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: take responsibility for abjectly failing to keep a relationship. It's
- 1:23:21Speaker 3: really the man's fault for wanting her to have a
- 1:23:24Speaker 3: you know, provide something at all, Like how dare He
- 1:23:27Speaker 3: made me do too much labor. That's why the relationship failed.
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: He relied on me for anything. I mean, geez, like,
- 1:23:34Speaker 3: what man would do that? What misogynist would rely on
- 1:23:36Speaker 3: a woman for anything?
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: Like?
- 1:23:39Speaker 3: You know, how dare? Like, don't you realize that women
- 1:23:43Speaker 3: are completely unreliable and incapable how dare you rely on
- 1:23:47Speaker 3: them for anything? And then that's pre loading the failure
- 1:23:50Speaker 3: of the relationship, even preloading the failure of getting into
- 1:23:53Speaker 3: a relationship in the first place, and continuing a bunch
- 1:23:56Speaker 3: of casual sexual encounters. And you're just like, it's not
- 1:24:00Speaker 3: because I'm a coward with poor social skills.
- 1:24:06Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, like, yeah, it's because the other thing
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: is there? Is it they're referencing. So it's a feminist
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: referencing or relating to another feminist who wrote a song
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: that makes a claim about men, and she's using the
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: claim that the one feminist makes about men to like
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: co sign her own claims about men.
- 1:24:32Speaker 2: What I mean by that is this lyric.
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: Just an appendage lived to attend him so that he
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: never lifts a finger. And then this person extrapolates from
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: that the last line means do all the work so
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: he doesn't have to even move, but it also means
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: do all the work so he doesn't hit you. So
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: now we're presuming that the original person who wrote the lyrics,
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: and they probably did mean this like as a double meaning,
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: right that not only because men, you know, we never
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: do anything. We don't work, we don't do anything around
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: the house. We're just lazy bums and also violent to
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: our spouses because reasons. And you also married that guy
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: under like well, uh but the you know, this is
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: like there is an allegation, and I think it's very
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: serious to imply this stuff when women can so easily
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: just be like, oh, I know what you meant by that,
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: you know, so yeah, Like and of course here.
- 1:25:34Speaker 3: We all know that domestic violence is reciprocal, like it well,
- 1:25:39Speaker 3: it's not always reciprocal, but women engage in as least
- 1:25:43Speaker 3: as much as men.
- 1:25:44Speaker 7: Mmkay.
- 1:25:46Speaker 3: So this is the like in all of this, as
- 1:25:48Speaker 3: I said, is pre loading failure. And I think it's
- 1:25:53Speaker 3: just like, I think what we're seeing is the hoof
- 1:25:56Speaker 3: prints of massive insecurity. Like these are really insecure women
- 1:26:02Speaker 3: who are buying into narratives that preload failure, that excuse
- 1:26:07Speaker 3: their cowardice, is self righteousness, that make them think that
- 1:26:13Speaker 3: wanting desperately to find a man that's going to fix
- 1:26:16Speaker 3: them is empowerment, like and that playing the victim is independence.
- 1:26:24Speaker 3: It's like, this is such a ball of mental fuck.
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: Where do you start?
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: Okay, yes, all right, I speak, I got a rumble
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: rant I should read really I'll be right black. All right,
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: NOBA Fan twenty one gives a dollar and says, I
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: think instead of waiting for women to get into relationships
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: with the women, we can just wait for women to
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: be each other's roommate.
- 1:26:46Speaker 2: Women can never get enough drama in their lives.
- 1:26:48Speaker 3: Lol.
- 1:26:49Speaker 2: All right, thank you for that, Noba fan. It was
- 1:26:54Speaker 2: Bill Burr.
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: That's right, ja Obales, that was Bill Burr that told
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: that joke about lesbians.
- 1:26:59Speaker 2: I think that this is just like women poisoning the relationship.
- 1:27:06Speaker 2: It's crabs in a bucket mentality.
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: Ultimately, like, this is why I never go on Reddit,
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: even for the men's rights reddit, except for like maybe
- 1:27:14Speaker 1: to look for stories, because everyone on there is like
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: a nihilist pisshand and they all drag each other down,
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: but when it comes to victimhood they love it, especially
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: these feminist pages.
- 1:27:26Speaker 2: Holy shit, I'm sorry, but I can't do it. Okay.
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: Then she talks about the music video, which I don't
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: think we should watch, but she says the music video,
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: as I said, is symbolic. At the beginning of the
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: music video, you don't get to see the woman's face.
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: She's invisible. In the middle of the video, she starts
- 1:27:45Speaker 1: eating a pomegranate, a fruit representing fertility and marriage, but
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: also representing death and feminine independence. That's kind of all
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: over the place. Near the end of the song, when
- 1:27:56Speaker 1: she sings about what would happen if she had a daughter,
- 1:27:58Speaker 1: children start singing the chorus with her. If you guys
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: haven't listened to this song, I highly recommend it. There
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: are no lyrics that talk about a daughter though, just
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: some twenty four to seven baby machine, which is like,
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: you know, like there are videos of women who are
- 1:28:14Speaker 1: mothers who have children and they talk about how much
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: they regret having children, Like I you know, when those
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: kids see that video, they're gonna be like, what the fuck?
- 1:28:23Speaker 2: Mom?
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, there's a lot of they've pre they
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: did not only are they like just kind of pathetic,
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: but they've also not only preloaded their failure, but they've
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: also preloaded their baby child mommy issues with their kids.
- 1:28:41Speaker 8: I don't know.
- 1:28:42Speaker 2: So it's it's fucked up, uh okay, even Pats Yeah.
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: Ala La Love Good says one of my favorite songs
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: since I heard it for the first song first time.
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: It's perfect for angry moods, sad moods, and I've had
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: male friends tell me to explain things in a way
- 1:28:59Speaker 1: they've never considered. So twelve out of ten those guys
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: are called orbiters and they just want to fuck you, lady.
- 1:29:09Speaker 3: They've never considered the.
- 1:29:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I know whoa WestEd women.
- 1:29:16Speaker 3: You never Nicktims, I never heard Chattel, says Chattel dudes.
- 1:29:25Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:29:25Speaker 1: Noba fan gives another dollar and says feminist state bad
- 1:29:28Speaker 1: boys and ignore healthy men. Also feminists, why don't men
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: do all the housework after his full time job? And
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: why do men refuse to take us.
- 1:29:35Speaker 2: At our word?
- 1:29:37Speaker 3: Uh?
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: Dude, I don't know, man, we know uh Dinashworth's choice says,
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: Can we talk about how this song is a spell? Like,
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: holy fuck, you can feel the power vibrated down to
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: the mitochron mitochondrial DNA.
- 1:29:52Speaker 2: Oh, oh my god, it's a spell, guys, a spell. Yes,
- 1:30:00Speaker 2: in the name of Satan.
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: My favorite line. Yeah yeah, my kiddo sent this to me.
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: Woke me the fuck up, and I'm eternally grateful.
- 1:30:10Speaker 2: Oh no, you fucked your kid up too. Yeah, so
- 1:30:14Speaker 2: these are just like woke you up to?
- 1:30:17Speaker 3: What? Like isn't isn't our society completely saturated the idea
- 1:30:23Speaker 3: that women are victims, because again, that's women's function, that's
- 1:30:27Speaker 3: their main function in our society is to dispense guilt
- 1:30:30Speaker 3: in order to get men to buy into the system.
- 1:30:34Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know, I don't feel like that's
- 1:30:36Speaker 3: my only role in life, just moment forth guilt to
- 1:30:41Speaker 3: make men feel like they're obligated.
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: Or if you want to subject yourself to it and
- 1:30:47Speaker 1: you're watching. The song is called Labor with a You
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: by Paris Paloma, and it's actually the song came out
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: like two years ago or something, so it's not actually
- 1:31:02Speaker 1: a new song. Came out in twenty twenty three, Yeah,
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: March twenty third, so like two years ago. And the
- 1:31:12Speaker 1: woman who made the video response made it a year ago.
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: So what I'm guessing is is that the song is old,
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: but it went viral on TikTok later because there's a
- 1:31:22Speaker 1: lot of songs on TikTok that become popularized through TikTok
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: and that's why beth Rors made a video about it.
- 1:31:32Speaker 2: But it's trash and people who like it are also trash.
- 1:31:37Speaker 3: Well, it's pre failure. There needs to be things that
- 1:31:42Speaker 3: women can fail at, and they need to be able
- 1:31:46Speaker 3: to fail at life and men need to stop saving them.
- 1:31:54Speaker 1: But Alison, it's everything is the fault of Adam's original
- 1:31:58Speaker 1: sin in the garden when he lamed Eve, and we
- 1:32:01Speaker 1: have to like bring back the divine patriarchy by restoring
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: that and make everybody a special brand of Orthodox Christian
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: that I don't even know how to define. And that's
- 1:32:10Speaker 1: the only way we're gonna save anybody. Sorry, I just
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: wanted to get that out anything specific.
- 1:32:17Speaker 3: Wine patriarchy agrees with my every political belief.
- 1:32:21Speaker 2: Yeah, it just so happens, but it's very specific.
- 1:32:24Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I don't know if we should allude to
- 1:32:28Speaker 3: our own No.
- 1:32:29Speaker 2: I just I just want to throw it out there
- 1:32:31Speaker 2: in case you're wondering.
- 1:32:32Speaker 3: That's Do you ever rewatched Coast to Coast when it
- 1:32:36Speaker 3: was Art Bell. He used to have this color called
- 1:32:39Speaker 3: j C.
- 1:32:40Speaker 2: Space goes Coast to Coast. No, No, that's so, I
- 1:32:44Speaker 2: don't know. I didn't watch either of those, but I
- 1:32:47Speaker 2: was just.
- 1:32:47Speaker 3: Curious based on an actual talk show called Coast to
- 1:32:54Speaker 3: Coast that dealt with the paranormal and the coast used
- 1:32:57Speaker 3: to have this guy call in called j C who's
- 1:33:00Speaker 3: a bit deranged like he was. Yeah, he believed that
- 1:33:05Speaker 3: Satan was behind everything, and he's a bit of a
- 1:33:07Speaker 3: Bible thumper.
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: Does j C stand for Jesus Christ? Because maybe he
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: was onto something. Somebody asked him what is the j
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: C stand for?
- 1:33:18Speaker 3: But but anyway, and it feels like maybe we've got
- 1:33:21Speaker 3: our own jac He used to be hilarious when he'd
- 1:33:24Speaker 3: call in and he'd say to Art below, you're you're
- 1:33:28Speaker 3: you're full, You're you're a spawn a Satan or something.
- 1:33:31Speaker 3: It's just it was good, all right. I'm just saying
- 1:33:35Speaker 3: that this is a little bit of an obscure reference.
- 1:33:36Speaker 3: So I made another obscure reference to increase the obscurity.
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: And it's pretty obscure. Apparently that show you're talking about
- 1:33:43Speaker 1: is still on.
- 1:33:45Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, it's just a different Okay. I gotta,
- 1:33:48Speaker 3: I gotta, I gotta.
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: Satiate the cat, all right, maybe we should wrap it up.
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: I don't think there's any more blood we can get
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: out of this rock.
- 1:33:58Speaker 2: Nor juice.
- 1:34:00Speaker 7: Squeeze.
- 1:34:01Speaker 3: You gotta squeeze the cat. Squeeze it and then and
- 1:34:06Speaker 3: then she settles. Squeeze the cat. He's the kiddie. Gotta
- 1:34:11Speaker 3: gotta hold her like a football.
- 1:34:14Speaker 5: People know some people know this reference.
- 1:34:16Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, all right, Yeah, there's nothing more
- 1:34:21Speaker 3: that we can squeeze out of this rock. Yeah, it's done.
- 1:34:25Speaker 8: It is.
- 1:34:25Speaker 2: I hope, I hope this was a satisfying dive into
- 1:34:30Speaker 2: you know. It's.
- 1:34:31Speaker 1: What it does tell me, though, is honestly, it's very
- 1:34:34Speaker 1: easy for a woman to make a lot of money
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: with music, because all you gotta do is sing about
- 1:34:41Speaker 1: how hard it is for women. You don't have to
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: be good at singing. You can auto tune it, you
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: can have AI write the lyrics and then just just
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: put it out.
- 1:34:49Speaker 2: I swear to God, you will make millions, You'll make
- 1:34:51Speaker 2: a mint. Maybe I should do it.
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: I can get I can get an AI voice that
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: sounds like a woman, and then you get a to
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: write it, and then just put a beat to it
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: and put it out there on on the on TikTok,
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: and maybe like put stock footage of a woman crying
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: in her bathroom or something with like past garro running
- 1:35:11Speaker 1: down her face.
- 1:35:11Speaker 2: And I'm done. I'm gonna wait. I just wait for
- 1:35:14Speaker 2: the checks to come.
- 1:35:17Speaker 3: I'm a woman, and I'm a victim of everything imaginable.
- 1:35:26Speaker 2: Of all the things imaginable exactly.
- 1:35:28Speaker 3: I'm a victim.
- 1:35:33Speaker 8: Of this.
- 1:35:35Speaker 3: I'm a victim of my alcomolism. I'm a victim of
- 1:35:40Speaker 3: talk Cosmoses. I'm a victim. I'm a victim. I need
- 1:35:46Speaker 3: a man to save me, but don't save me because
- 1:35:50Speaker 3: I'm independent. Why won't you save me?
- 1:35:55Speaker 4: On and on and on and on.
- 1:35:57Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not trying to be good.
- 1:35:59Speaker 5: That's all right, all right, yeah, I think I think yeah.
- 1:36:05Speaker 3: Like all right, So if you enjoy this show, you
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- 1:36:16Speaker 3: a few sheckles and whatever you whatever comes to mind.
- 1:36:19Speaker 3: Maybe send us lyrics for the anthem of the terribly
- 1:36:25Speaker 3: oppressed woman who is totally empowered by right. Send us
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- 1:36:37Speaker 2: That was a big sigh, Brian, Well, I don't know. Yeah,
- 1:36:42Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I haven't. I hadn't breathed in a bit.
- 1:36:45Speaker 3: So if you want to support the show, Feedbadger dot
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- 1:36:53Speaker 3: in very much appreciated, and maybe we'll do some more songs.
- 1:36:59Speaker 3: Maybe not. It seems like this is this is a
- 1:37:03Speaker 3: big sigh territory for Brian.
- 1:37:07Speaker 5: It's not big sky, big sigh. All right, so back
- 1:37:11Speaker 5: to Brian.
- 1:37:12Speaker 2: All right, what do you want to do? That's cool.
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