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Apollo Number 2: NASA Moon Toilet Challenge & Disco Elysium TV Series · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  I did something kind of stupid just before we started recording I'm not
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  surprised welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things nerdy I was reading an article and a lot
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  of people for some reason doing covers of songs in The Last of Us two oh yeah
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  I've seen that and one of the ones I've done is H yep so oh I saw this headline annoyed me
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  I think and then I went and watched the music clip for the Johnny Cash cover oh
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  yeah and I got a little I got a little sad yeah man quite Mark romanic directed
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  that and uh he originally didn't intend to have any of that archival footage in
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  there but he found out that he didn't really have enough to cut together of
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  just kind of Johnny sitting around looking sad so he was like well what do
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  I have the right he's too happy um well no I mean he put in a whole
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  bunch of shots of him looking happy 50 years ago and it just suddenly it just
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  suddenly made that clip so sad but you see like his wife's there like watching
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  him as well and she's like nearly in tears and he's and oh my god well I saw
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  the the reason I got annoyed is cuz I saw the headline on some website that
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  said people can't stop covering Johnny Cash's song Hurt in The Last of Us and I
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  was like it's not Johnny Cash's song that was a I think you you'll be proud of me I did
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  call it Johnny Cash's cover yes I know I know except his his version is a lot
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  better uh well it's not um so it's very different just a guy on a
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  guitar just a guy playing doing a cover of a 9 in nail song on guitar and
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  singing it there nothing better about it it's just it's fine I don't know what do
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  you mean I I do think for some reason I like that version a lot better do you
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  like 9in nails I love else apparently you don't what look disrespected him
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  live here on the podcast controversially I mean that's one it's one been one of
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  my favorite songs since the '90s but when when Johnny covered it I thought
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  this he's taken it to a level that Trent never did so really well that's that's
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  the whole thing Trent actually says like it's um he actually thinks that that
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  song's found at home with Johnny Cash he actually thinks his version is better I
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  don't necessarily think it's it's better I mean it's not it's not an arrange it's
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  it's not a better arrange M or you know the musicality is not better I think
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  it's just more powerful he just he just found a sadness in that song that was
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  less self-deprecating than when Trent sings it and and is more just tragic
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  well the way Trent's version of it goes is sort of like a young person sort of
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  turning towards all those bad things whereas Johnny Cash like spins it like
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  he's an old one remembering what's happened what's happened what he's done
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  through throughout his life and H there you go listeners The Secret of a
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  successful cover is to be a sad old man mhm I mean I'm trying to I'm trying to
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  get success by being a sad old man across the board Matt not just with my
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  covers yeah I don't really do covers to be honest you you got a sad old man Tik
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  Tok account yet no I don't I don't have a Tik Tok oh I've deleted Tik Tok I've
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  deleted Tik Tok have you yeah Tik Tok is snooping on your clipboard yes it really
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  is yeah and they admitted it when they got called out on it they like they
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  couldn't help it yeah cuz the new version of iOS has a bunch of uh new
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  security features one of which is it tells you when [ __ ] snooping on your
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  clipboard so Tik Tok was grabbing the contents of your clipboard just to put
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  this into perspective it's it's just it's just grabbing data right it's not
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  actually it doesn't actually care about you or like I keep anytime I see Tik Tok
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  watching you news it's always China is listening and it's like what do you mean
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  by that I mean Tik tok's a privately owned company in China right it's not
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  the Chinese government spy everything's owned by the Chinese government I mean
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  I'm not I'm not particularly think was even really thinking about why or who's
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  doing it but the I mean I use password managers and stuff like that like if you
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  stealing my passwords out of my clipboard [ __ ] off yeah no no I'm not
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  I'm not defending them I'm I'm just uh yeah I don't know I think uh I think
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  you're right to delete it there's no reason no reason at all that Tik Tok
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  needs to take the contents of my like what I'm copying and pasting on my phone
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  like there no reason for that so like I I honestly and they didn't even bother
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  trying to justify it they just said yeah we'll we will stop doing that now that
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  you C us good yeah do that yeah do stop not even like sorry or it was an
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  accident cuz you can't accidentally do that yeah right no they're they're
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  mining for data I mean that's that's my first thought is they're trying to steal
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  people's passwords like what else would they trying to pinch I doubt it's that
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  malicious I think I mean of of course that's I mean they could but but I I I
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  think they're more likely just trying to find sta what are people saying about each other
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  what are they looking at just selling information yeah yeah it could be you
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  know speaking of speaking of things you can do as an old man that you uh you
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  couldn't do when you were young uh I did something this week that I've been
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  trying to do since I was 15 unsuccessfully until now is this is this
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  something Marilyn Manson could do due to having some ribs yeah that's right I've
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  got I've got massively less chance of doing that now I tell you than I
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  I had no chance back then and I've got less of a chance now um no I something
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  popped into my head the other day that I hadn't thought about in a long time
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  decades even and I thought I'll give that a try and to my surprise and
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  Delight I apparently can now after 20
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  plus 30 maybe years of trying I Can Do
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  Magic eyes oh you know the the like the posters where you got to relax your eyes
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  see the 3D image never did them had a book in my house my entire family could
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  see it and they were like H look a sailboat and I was like what the [ __ ]
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  are you talking about I've never been able to do them so I guess maybe I
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  should try then try it now you think it's because do you think maybe it's
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  because your eyes are going is yeah maybe no actually it's because so
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  there's a bunch Google image search you find you find heaps right basically once
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  you train your eye to do one you can see as many as you want like you just know
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  how to do it and there there's one that you can get so if you Google it and you
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  want to really do it Google Magic Eye with guides right and it's actually got
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  two dots above the picture and it says Focus your eyes here and then it kind of
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  makes you a tiny bit cross-eyed and then it says okay now glance down in the
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  middle of the picture with your eyes still in that direction and when you do
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  your eyes are at the right place to see it and then once you've seen one you
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  kind of know how to do it but I was always so jealous of people yeah I can't
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  do them either I've always been able to do it but I've always found them pretty
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  disappointing I wonder if this know oh is this the one with the it's got like
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  the flowers and then you place your finger out so you to gently pull them
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  apart pull my eyes apart all right
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  then well now I can't see anything yeah that's the magic of
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  eyes that's interesting it does still it ends up hurting your eyes though because
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  forcing yourself not to focus is quite painful because it's actually you're
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  you're looking at one focal plane but you're focused on a different imaginary
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  focal plane behind that yeah okay and yes it is it is awful on your eyes yeah
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  my eyes aren't where they used to be anyway why still all right I think I
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  don't have glasses or anything yeah you two have managed to avoid uh I have no
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  idea how yeah I was going to say of all of all the people I would have thought
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  luk could have glasses well I mean we all spend a lot of time looking at
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  screens I mean the optometrist say ruin my eyes oh yes looking at screens yeah
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  yeah I'm surrounded by him why is Luke looking so Shifty do you not look at
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  screens yeah I know we really don't know what you do for a living do we no no no
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  no I was I was doing the whole joke of like another reason why you oh right I'm
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  sorry I can't see you I can't see you
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  mate no no no cuz I'm always screen I used to read in the dark I used to be
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  like yeah I've treated my eyes terribly and they still work I mean surely
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  reading in the eyes reading in the eyes reading in the dark strengthens your
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  eyes right I mean like going to the gym no apparently not apparently puts
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  unnecessary strain on them that's what they used to tell us anyway but they
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  also say like don't sit close to your screen they of dumb stuff yeah I don't
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  think they know they say the sun gives you cancer okay I'll stay out of the sun
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  then will I yeah yeah it's just and then you get in trouble cuz you don't have
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  enough vitamin D yeah I'll give you them vitamin D promises promises I've told
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  Tim Cook that he can go [ __ ] himself and I've bought myself a PC I said I was
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  going to do it welcome I said I was true is this this your first PC the last PC
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  that I owned uh was not my own it was my dad so I've never owned one and it was a
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  Pentium 100 and the last windows that I
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  used was Windows 95 yuck so I assume it's wow I assume it's the same is it
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  yeah yeah exactly good good I'll remember how to use it then exactly yeah
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  giant icons on a low resolution screen yeah 15in monitor I had with that Penny
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  and one 15 in was pretty good it was good because everyone else had a 14in
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  that I knew and then Dad brought home the 15 I was like [ __ ] yeah I
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  remember Dave Dave always had the better stuff first so he always got I mean he
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  got a 17-in monitor and I was like [ __ ] in felt awfully big Zing playing vampire
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  the Masquerade Redemption oh yeah on his overclocked Pentium 300 or something
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  mate I was I was playing that on my my power MAAC G4 oh yeah which wasn't meant
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  to be able to play it out all yeah well I'm sure I've told this
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  stupid story before but I actually I used to um because you know with Windows
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  95 it ran on top of Doss so you yeah no it wasn't 95 it was Windows 3.1 Windows
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  3.1 had um ex extended memory uh like virtual memory and so I could trick my
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  computer into thinking it had enough RAM to play Duke Nukem 3D oh except it would
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  it was using Ram like it was using swap space and so it was unplayable but it
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  worked and you played it a lot and cuz I as a kid I was kind of more interested
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  in making it work than playing the game for some reason like oh yeah yeah yeah
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  yeah man I had a I had a shareware version of that for so many years um
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  that only played the first three levels and I played them so often that now I
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  can put it on 30 years later and just just just know it just do it just play
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  it know where every enemy is know where every item is it's like Doom first few
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  levels of Doom I'm just like there's a guy over there the first Doom or Doom
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  two but yeah the second you get to the part where you had to have paid for paid
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  for the game I've got no idea I've got less than an idea I was more familiar
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  with Doom 2 than Doom one I think I know Doom two better oh sure hell on Earth H
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  but yeah got myself a PC laptop what' you get what' you get what' you get
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  what'd you get so after uh after thinking a lot and a lot of deliberation
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  I have ended up uh with I figured since I'm going to be on Windows I might as
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  well get myself a Microsoft machine so I've ended up with the uh the surface
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  laptop 15 in cool I'm theard about what specs to get ended up thinking I should
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  probably future proof and uh so I I basically got the the most speced out
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  one that is available here cool you know so it's not a hardcore gaming laptop or
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  anything like that but it's certainly going to no no but it should play some
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  stuff yeah it should certainly going to play a lot more than my [ __ ] Mac
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  players that's for sure you'll be probably be surprised about what it can
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  play cuz it's not like 20 years ago where if you didn't upgrade your
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  computer within 3 months you could play the next game games now you can buy a
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  computer it's good for 3 years yeah and honestly like I'm I'm going to still be
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  using my console for most of my gaming you know it's really just Steam games
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  and and and that kind of thing that I'm interested in stuff that you you can't
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  play on the cockbox yeah like disco alium yeah well it's funny you say that
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  Luke because I'm actually playing that again uh we mentioned last week that we
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  discovered there was a hardcore mode I decided to give it a go mhm um how's
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  that going worth it just because when you when you actually click the Box on
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  the hardcore you hear Kuno go hardcore and uh that makes you feel good so yeah
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  um try that it's difficult it's difficult it's basically uh nothing nothing gives you
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  skill points so oh you just very very rarely have anything that you can
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  upgrade so you're basically just relying on making good choices in your
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  conversation trees and trying making sure you're wearing the right clothes yeah yeah um
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  [Applause]
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  that I'm playing as anyway so it's interesting did you see I want it's a
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  spoilery question that I want to ask spoil away all right spoilers for discoi just
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  skip ahead a little bit if you don't want to hear discoi SPO spoiler there's
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  not going to be much to it I don't think but I want to know did you did you find
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  it did you you found it the and a pict it photo with it yeah yeah you get a
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  photo with it yeah yeah I did I did and um man the people online that haven't
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  cuz it's not a given that you find that CU people are people are on the forums on
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  Reddit just going what the [ __ ] are you guys talking about man I got a a photo
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  with it yeah Kim was Kim was [ __ ] beside himself yeah yeah yeah a did you
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  that's spoiler that just makes me want to play the game more did you show
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  anyone the photo yeah at the end yeah yeah yeah I'm going to be
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  famous so now that you've played it Matt um there's something that happened to me
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  the first playthrough that didn't happen to me in the second one at all and
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  hasn't happened to me the third time yet so far and that is did you get the urge
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  to masturbate and have to decide whether or not to whip your [ __ ] out and jerk
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  off in front of Kim and everyone else who was around I did not okay
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  so the first time around I think it's because cuz the order that you do things
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  depend like determines what missions you get as well because okay the first first
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  time I played it it took me ages to find my badge so I couldn't prove to the
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  union rep that I was a cop right so she said that she would only give the
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  information that I wanted if I found out who was dealing drugs out of the lorries
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  right and I haven't done that since because I found my ID early enough that
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  that does doesn't come up right so while I was going through the lorries I found
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  out because this is a traffic jam for those who don't know the the entire game
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  happens on two city blocks right you can't go to the north because there's a
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  factory that's closed and there's strike workers picketing outside there's a
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  traffic jam of of lorries to one end and then for most of the game there's a
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  there's a bridge out on the other end you can't go anywhere yeah while going
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  through the lorries I found a postcard that was a pinup girl did you find that
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  I don't think so yeah so it's only when you do certain things that you even can
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  get into this one particular truck to look around I found this Fu me now I got
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  to play the game I found this card and I kept carrying it around with me and
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  every now and again take it out and look at it right and um at one point at one
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  point my psyche started saying to me you're just you're just too aroused now
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  you you're going to have to you're going to have to release some of this tension
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  and he's and he's like but but Kim's right here and and it's like doesn't
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  matter doesn't matter he'll understand and I was like no I'm not going to
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  [ __ ] do it so I didn't do it and I lost health and morale for not doing it
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  I almost died because I didn't didn't want to masturbate in
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  public oh man what a game on the hard cord mode could you do it see what
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  happens I'll see well I haven't I haven't encountered that that mission
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  yet so we'll we'll see what happens what a [ __ ] well it's so good that every
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  now it's getting a television series yeah don't know how I feel about this I
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  know I saw the headline and I was like that can't be real no it's I mean that's
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  that's the that's the story it's becoming a it's being adapted by the guy
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  who uh produced the Sonic the Hedgehog movie there's quite a bit to unpack here
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  look this is a runaway hit I can understand why Hollywood's trying to
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  jump on it I can understand like the fact that they're doing it as a
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  television show over a movie though yeah definitely from why you guys explain I
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  think it makes more sense as a movie although I would have said same I would
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  have said the same about uh Watchmen and that show was [ __ ] disgraceful I just
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  don't I don't think you can make this into a I mean I mean sure I'm sure they
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  will and like it can be done but it's not going to be the same you think maybe
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  they'll try one of those things like uh Choose Your Own Adventure oh I hope they
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  don't honestly it already is that because it's you like you know you don't
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  Dodge things you don't jump there's no levels this is essentially an
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  interactive story so they've already got that and uh you could do a film of this
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  if you did like a kind of Jacob's Ladder you know like Dream Within A Dream weird
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  hazy nightmare type thing you you could do it but the fact that they're like oh
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  who's who's done a who's done a an adaptation of a of a video game recently
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  oh let's get the Sonic guy to do it yeah I just don't see the the reason that it
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  works is because you have to choose from these ridiculous options that are not
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  none of none thing you choose in it is the ideal solution and that's part of
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  the charm of the game for me is that like right here's three [ __ ] options
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  which one do you want to go with and then just [ __ ] watch This Disaster at
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  one point was playing it earlier today I had a couple of options and the last
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  option were seriously you're not going to give me any other
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  options so I don't I don't see how you can capture that aspect of it and for me
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  that's that's what it is that's the CU that'll go and it'll just be
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  superficially the story of you have cop going around yeah yeah and if you want
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  that there is a very good movie already called [ __ ] I'm going to have to Google
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  this Paul BL oh I want to talk about Paul BL in one sec too actually oh [ __ ] really yeah
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  yeah yeah yeah I actually do was not expecting that to go anywhere no um I'd
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  forgotten that but it's saved here uh so remind me about Paul BL in just a sec
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  but I want to talk about I'm just gonna I'm trying to remember just going to
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  look up waen Phoenix and look up a movie he did a couple of years ago called
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  someone's yelling at their [ __ ] iPhone right now on the bus sorry about
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  this it's called is that what that noise is it's called inherent Vice and
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  inherent Vice inherent VI it's good I suggest you you do watch it it's set in
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  the 70s in LA and it's uh it's got Wen
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  Phoenix as a drug [ __ ] detective who uh gets himself uh in over his head when
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  he tries to investigate uh stuff and uh weirdness bu up on weirdness and it's
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  kind of like what this would be if you didn't control it and if you weren't
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  inside his mind if you just want to watch a story like this then this is it
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  yeah I just don't think I mean look that does sound good and I'm I mean maybe the
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  TV series will be good but I don't I just don't see the point of it it's not
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  going to be the same I don't think I don't see how it could be so why bother
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  well Mak make something else what I'm getting the impression of because they
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  haven't found like who's going to stream it they've got to right it just to me it
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  sounds like the producer just like the game and wants to expand it I like the
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  game I still don't want it to be a TV series mhm yeah I just don't
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  see but wait and see the whole way the story unfolds the whole way like the
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  world the way the world is and all that kind of stuff it's not it's not even it
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  doesn't make sense like it's not I just I don't see how it's going to work
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  anyway you never know Matt did you tell her that it was beautiful when you saw
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  it oh yeah yeah such a such an amazing
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  moment I didn't expect it I'll be honest no no even though there's a couple of
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  people telling you it's there y yeah uh I I have I've gone back to a game we
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  talked about this briefly and I'm not going to mention it too much but I did
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  go back to a game I uh I was looking for something to pick up after I finished uh
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  what did I finish I think I just didn't feel like playing on my computer anymore
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  probably played witch 3 for the seventh time yeah no I've gone back to Red Dead
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  Redemption 2 after playing it for I guess a couple of hours I was like
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  oh I'm I'm addicted again okay really okay that's great Matt's in cowboy mode
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  yeah I got I noticed I I I figured out how to get to the so there there is no
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  one corrected me on this there is a quest log is it uh yeah it's just not
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  you if you tap the left d-pad button it comes up with the quest log and then you
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  can look at there's like quests and um you know challenges and other stuff in
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  there so there's that you can fast travel I don't know whether that's
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  something I just unlocked at some point or if they patched the game but yeah I
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  can fast travel [ __ ] anywhere what oh you can now cuz I remember how do you
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  fast travel yeah you you make a camp yeah and then from the camp you can
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  travel in I feel like that's how it worked in Red Dead Redemption it was so
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  you can travel places that you have had a camp or you can travel to anywhere
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  you've been to believe where we wagons like stage coaches drop off yeah I think
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  so well no not even cuz you ride your horse there you just choose they named
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  locations like for example I could say uh take me to Valentine and it'll show
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  he'll he'll kick the fire out and then it'll show like a little Montage as it's
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  loading and then it'll show a little video of him riding the horse into town
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  with the wide screen bars and then the bars are lifting and then I'm there okay
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  so that the game starts off very slow and then you unlock that where you can
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  actually sort of Jump Around the map a bit faster and then at the it slows down
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  again at the end see I don't know when at what point it unlocked it just it's
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  just there it's it's always been there but a lot of the time you still you just
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  end up riding where you're going I I do I found because you encounter stuff like
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  I found no spoilers please cuz I'm kind of getting into this again right so I I
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  solved the The Mystery of the serial killer oh so did you yeah oh okay I did
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  that last night and then also the one I'm on the trail of now is the night
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  folk I don't know if you've encountered that no this [ __ ]
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  I don't know I don't want to spoil now I want to play this again I'm riding
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  through the bi the bio Bou mhm and then there's this [ __ ] man hung from a
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  tree just in the in the road and I'm like the [ __ ] so I I stop and I'm
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  looking at it and then I get off the horse and I'm like the [ __ ] going on
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  and then all of a sudden these [ __ ] people with like painted faces come
• 24:52
  charging out of the [ __ ] swamp so I'm like [ __ ] so I'm shooting them all I'm
• 24:56
  like what the [ __ ] is going on so I I shoot the guy down and he's got this
• 24:59
  piece of paper that says they're no longer in my dreams they've come for me
• 25:03
  in the in in the waking world the night great so I'm like holy [ __ ] okay I'm
• 25:07
  into it yeah see that stuff's cool but
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  like I just remember 15 sequences where I'm just like riding around with some
• 25:17
  sheriff and he's telling me all about the town I'm going to and I just yeah
• 25:21
  it's a great I was playing and then I went back to camp and Dutch was like
• 25:24
  Arthur can I speak to you and I like no busy about the main quest don't I'm
• 25:30
  looking for all the weird love crafty and stuff that's out there okay no time
• 25:34
  unless you got some creepy [ __ ] for me Dutch I'm not interested but yeah you
• 25:37
  can't play just pick it up play for half an hour and put it down you have to give
• 25:41
  it you have to sit down and be prepared to give it a few hours of your life each
• 25:44
  time yeah I hunted a legendary bear o finally back went back inside and played
• 25:50
  a bit of red dead that's right but yeah you once now
• 25:55
  that I've like got the controls I feel like I just need to [ __ ] finish the
• 25:58
  game before I don't play it for a couple of months come back and I'm like how the
• 26:01
  [ __ ] do I reload my gun like interesting yeah well exactly right like the muscle
• 26:07
  memory for the controls is back now so okay so I've been playing disco elesium
• 26:11
  again Matt's been playing Red Dead Again Luke what have you been
• 26:16
  playing um sort of nothing what I don't believe
• 26:22
  you all right I I have played a couple of games yeah come on man finished a
• 26:27
  couple of games he just doesn't want to admit what they are oh whatever a I'm
• 26:31
  actually start playing hentai game or something just for the achievements been
• 26:35
  playing resent Evil 5 on the PC okay oh yeah cuz Resident Evil 5 isn't that the
• 26:41
  terrible one in Haiti yes it is terrible but I found out that on Steam you can
• 26:47
  actually install a cop a version of it that you still get Xbox
• 26:53
  achievements so play that is it at least is it at least easy oh no it's not no no
• 26:58
  no it's actually it's easy to play It's the game is easy it's just hard to play
• 27:03
  because it's so terrible right okay yeah like the controls are bad the story is
• 27:09
  bad it was such a shame that that series went off the rails because the first
• 27:12
  couple of Resident Evil games were great
• 27:16
  mhm um I I've got seven Seven's evidently meant to be really good but
• 27:21
  it's nothing like the other games like it's you're some crazy familyes trying
• 27:26
  to kill you or something I we have that actually Jenna was playing that I just
• 27:30
  remembered we have the disc for that somewhere somewhere yeah I was actually
• 27:34
  thinking of relooking at an older game the The Mad Max game and uh I love and
• 27:40
  but but I realized yeah it was good it was good and I started thinking I never
• 27:44
  finished that did you guys finish it no me either yeah but I was oh you did of
• 27:48
  course um but I was thinking get an achievement for finishing it I'd have to
• 27:52
  literally go looking for the disc you know oh that's right you're still buying
• 27:56
  discs aren't you no I mean I'm not haven't for years but at that point I
• 28:00
  was that might have been the last one I bought it isn't it on Game Pass is that
• 28:03
  how I was playing it um no I don't think it is I must own it earlier than
• 28:08
  that do you guys want to know why I have some followup Paul Blart mop news oh
• 28:13
  yeah sorry yes yes I don't really have any news uh per se but uh a third one or
• 28:20
  something no no no no I watched the film uh this week called Becky uh which is
• 28:26
  pretty good it's a horror oh is this one where he's like a stalker or something
• 28:30
  he's a Neo-Nazi this is Kevin James who's SE poster I think guy who's in all
• 28:37
  the [ __ ] Adam Sandler and that other guy King of Queens is
• 28:43
  that the show you in is that the one one of those shows yeah something like that
• 28:47
  generally unfunny guy um and certainly unfunny in this except it's not a comedy
• 28:53
  he's uh he's got a shaved head and an enormous bushy beard and SW sck a tattoo
• 28:58
  on his neck and he's [ __ ] terrifying and apparently he's a really good actor
• 29:05
  he apparently he's really a Neo method actor they just they didn't
• 29:11
  put the makeup on him this time they just took the makeup off his neck but
• 29:15
  this movie also has Joel mcale in it it this this plays out like a super low
• 29:19
  budget it's no no no it's a horror movie it's like a slasher horror Thriller the
• 29:24
  premise is some NE Ruben neo-nazis escaped from prison and they they hide
• 29:30
  out in this house in the woods so careful Matt cuz you got a house in the
• 29:35
  woods where's you nearest prison [ __ ] prison would have a clue yeah well find
• 29:40
  out where it is um yeah and they take the whole family hostage except this one
• 29:44
  little girl called Becky is outside and so it basically turns into an adult
• 29:48
  version of Home Alone uh where she slowly murders uh all of the criminals
• 29:53
  yeah Nazis yeah yeah right it's good okay yeah I liked it is John M Neo-Nazi
• 29:58
  in it I wish he was a Neo-Nazi we do have we have some racism
• 30:04
  Community news though oh we do yeah you want to Segway to that this is a this a weird
• 30:10
  one it is weird but also I understand and in fact this is what we've been
• 30:16
  talking about in the past where Luke for example has said there's nothing
• 30:21
  inherently wrong with painting your face black other than the
• 30:26
  context yes so in community on the I guess the D and D
• 30:31
  episode famous episode one of yeah it's
• 30:35
  um a chang wears he he dresses as a as a
• 30:40
  dark elf yeah so he's painted his skin like and the whole joke in that is he's
• 30:46
  taken all this time to get into character and that's going to be who he
• 30:49
  is and he dies in the first 30 seconds like that's the whole joke yeah yeah
• 30:53
  that he's sort of committed so much and to to be clear he's not he's not
• 30:57
  portraying afrian am
• 31:00
  he's jet black elf um but of course
• 31:05
  it's I mean they're not idiots so they obviously knew it was a provocative
• 31:08
  image but then again his yeah can I just say I we watched through Community
• 31:15
  recently we put it back from the first and we're like why did we stop watching
• 31:19
  this this Show's great it's like really really great for two seasons and then
• 31:23
  it's next level awful as soon as Jeff becomes a teacher at the school and the
• 31:28
  study group becomes a committee yeah the whole thing is quite
• 31:33
  weird cuz with that like um oh what's his name Pierce um why can I not
• 31:37
  remember his name oh um Chevy Chase Chevy Chase evidently he did not get
• 31:42
  along well with um people on that show like a f he got I saw there's an
• 31:48
  interview with Dan Haron about that and then he was saying how Chevy Chase
• 31:53
  apparently didn't know that he wasn't getting along with everybody and so
• 31:56
  there was this Awkward Moment where Chevy Chase had this big meltdown
• 31:59
  because he felt like someone should have said something H because he didn't
• 32:05
  realize he was being a prick but that's one of things where he he's sort of been
• 32:09
  famous for that his entire career just doesn't understand even once when he
• 32:15
  went back to host Saturday Night Live like he got in a fist fight with Bill
• 32:19
  Murray before it went on and that's why he was never allowed
• 32:23
  back cuz CU you know Dan harmer does that podcast now the reason actually the
• 32:27
  reason he told told the story is because the reason he does the podcast now is
• 32:30
  because he used to just do the do them live at this little venue in New York
• 32:35
  and somebody recorded the one where he told the story about how everyone did
• 32:40
  disliked Chevy Chase on set and Chevy Chase saw it and got upset cuz he was
• 32:45
  like why didn't you tell me and then they had that big falling out or
• 32:48
  something like that that's my that's I think that's what he said any I think he
• 32:51
  still does his podcast live right yes yeah yeah no he does but that's why he
• 32:56
  started doing it because he was like well if people are going to record it
• 32:59
  I'll self share it that way if I say something dumb it's my fault that it got
• 33:03
  out yeah can I I I don't want to get controversial here right but I just want
• 33:09
  to say something that I noticed this week that actually surprised me uh did
• 33:14
  you go did you guys know and you probably did the four men who have been
• 33:17
  charged with the George Floyd killing yes only two of them are white one of
• 33:23
  them is Asian and one of them is African-American yeah I did not know
• 33:28
  that I just assumed it was like four Hillbillies no yeah I heard a pretty
• 33:33
  compelling argument that that it seems like they didn't mean to kill him
• 33:37
  they're just useless is what seems to be the the takeaway here like and this
• 33:44
  happens often enough that it's like they need more training like yeah it comes
• 33:49
  down to like really does seem a lot of time that excessive use of force has
• 33:54
  happen more with people of color than white and even you see in like the
• 33:57
  shooting things that happen like a mass shooting if they're white they seem to
• 34:01
  be captured but then you get someone pulled over having no weapon on them not
• 34:06
  done anything wrong and they end up getting shot yeah well there was another
• 34:10
  case where this similar thing happened but it was a white guy but they were
• 34:14
  restraining him by sitting on him and he died and they just apparently too
• 34:21
  [ __ ] stupid to realize you can't crush a man without killing him yeah
• 34:26
  like and then it's possible that in this Cas too like so in other words there
• 34:30
  there is racism of course but also there's just incompetence It's a
• 34:33
  combination of yes racism combined with just complete lack of understanding
• 34:37
  about how much force is acceptable and how much you're going to [ __ ] kill
• 34:41
  somebody well I know this the psychiatric medicine industry is
• 34:44
  picketing for police to not be able to get involved when people with mental
• 34:50
  illness are yeah are you know uh I don't know even how to phrase it are getting
• 34:57
  getting into trouble um because but they're basically saying
• 35:02
  they shouldn't be treated like other criminals that it's a very specific case
• 35:05
  and you're not in any way trained to deal with it yeah and it seems like
• 35:08
  there's a lot of situations that are not actually really trained to deal with
• 35:12
  well because the other thing too is and like I hadn't thought of this but as a
• 35:15
  as a and this doesn't apply to George Floyd case at all but in in a lot of
• 35:20
  situations um the thing to remember that I I guess I'd never thought of this in
• 35:24
  the US anybody could have a gun and if a cop gets involved in a fight of any sort
• 35:28
  or an altercation the first thing that they're going to think of is I've got a
• 35:32
  [ __ ] gun like this person could get my gun and and then so it's just a
• 35:37
  factor that's not there and say like the UK or something where they don't well I
• 35:40
  mean besides that M it's a gun culture you know like yeah anybody anybody else
• 35:45
  could have one and you've got one so if you get into a fight even a fist fight
• 35:48
  like if someone punches a cop out well now there's a [ __ ] gun available yeah
• 35:52
  like oh yeah I never thought of that there needs to be some real [ __ ]
• 35:57
  changes then probably there won't be but we'll see I think one of the changes
• 36:00
  that they're pushing forward now and I think a few Place actually starting to
• 36:03
  sign off on it is Police won't be going
• 36:06
  out to sort of non-criminal things like noise complaints and things like that
• 36:13
  actually trying to bring up like other things other services to go out to
• 36:17
  things like that and then cops go out for hey there someone robbing this place
• 36:21
  instead of hey my neighbor's being a bit loud or that's such a simple but great
• 36:27
  idea isn't it because I mean like all of these things that as you say noise
• 36:32
  complaints and stuff that's what they start off as and then someone freaks out
• 36:36
  cuz they got meth in the house and then they start acting all Shifty and then
• 36:40
  someone gets shot yeah whereas that wouldn't happen if the person who came
• 36:44
  out has the authority to tell you to turn off your [ __ ] music but doesn't
• 36:48
  have the authority to search your house for meth well you've actually even seen
• 36:51
  times where people have called the police cuz there have been people sort
• 36:54
  of outside they've gone outside to meet the police and then they've been shot
• 36:58
  yes yeah that one of the one of the case one of the the the cases that people are
• 37:04
  tweeting about a lot Bri Taylor yes she got shot because the cops burst into the
• 37:09
  wrong house it was a no knock thing they burst in they didn't
• 37:13
  announce themselves busted in and then boyfriend shot at them cuz he didn't
• 37:18
  know what the [ __ ] was going on and then she got shot because a bunch of guys
• 37:22
  wearing all black burst into the room with guns this gu's panicked and tried
• 37:26
  to defend himself mhm shot and then they've killed her wow and it was wrong
• 37:32
  house the person that they were even looking for was already in custody wow
• 37:36
  yeah [ __ ] up I've noticed something odd that I that I think is odd in the
• 37:40
  last couple of weeks I would expect to
• 37:43
  see absolutely no cases of police
• 37:48
  shooting black people because if I was a cop even if I was a racist cop I
• 37:54
  wouldn't be [ __ ] touching my gun at the moment guys we should probably dial
• 37:57
  back on it for a little while exactly I'm surprised a memo hasn't gone around
• 38:02
  like do not do it but it but it's still happens but but then I guess that just
• 38:06
  shows how how often it happen I read a quote the other day that says police
• 38:11
  haven't just started shooting back black people police have just started being
• 38:16
  filmed shooting black people well it's one of those things like watching the
• 38:19
  show Cops watching the Australian version is very different to watching
• 38:23
  the American version yeah you watch the american one the guns are out from the
• 38:28
  second there's a there's a call and all that in Australia like get guys walking
• 38:32
  up like what's going on here cultural I think it's like like you said it's a gun
• 38:36
  culture where anybody could have a gun so you just need to get on top of things
• 38:39
  kind of well Australian have guns but they're not allowed to use them I
• 38:44
  wouldn't want to be a cop here man [ __ ] hell that's the thing in America
• 38:47
  there's a good chance that the person you're pulled over they could have a gun
• 38:51
  that's why that's why tensions are already [ __ ] yeah yeah exactly
• 38:58
  whereas in Australia cop yeah you don't really have to go for your gun as much
• 39:02
  because well you can get guns here it's not as easy cuz I do think like if
• 39:07
  you're a cop and someone's [ __ ] doing something and you suspect they're going
• 39:13
  to get violent with you what are you supposed to do like I'm just I wouldn't
• 39:18
  want to be no you're right I'm glad I'm not a cop too I'm glad I'm not a cop uh
• 39:23
  some reform that's already started happening uh around the world uh a
• 39:28
  couple of recastings the uh the white guy who plays Cleveland in uh yes Family
• 39:34
  Guy and Cleveland show has stepped down uh H gazaria has stepped down from
• 39:38
  playing upu which I think happened already but that's uh yeah he did it a
• 39:42
  little while there's document about the problem with a pooo right and then y the
• 39:47
  uh the Archbishop of Canterbury came out this week and admitted for the first
• 39:51
  time in the history of the church that maybe Jesus wasn't white and that they
• 39:57
  can think about having different nationalities possibly even a middle
• 40:01
  eastern depiction of Jesus so that's good Oh you mean like the the the way
• 40:06
  that he would have actually might have actually been yeah yeah yeah just yeah I
• 40:10
  say yeah I'm being careful because don't know whether he really existed or not
• 40:14
  but um but if he did he he was the Middle Eastern certainly if we know
• 40:18
  anything about him it's that he was he was from the mid unless unless it really was a
• 40:24
  miracle and uh a one [ __ ] you think there'd be a a mention of that
• 40:30
  right because actually that that point in the Bible immaculate conception could
• 40:34
  look like anything when they're in the Olive Grove of and the centurions arrive
• 40:39
  to arrest him and and they say which one is he and and Judas has to point him out
• 40:44
  by kissing him but which I never really understood he he could have just pointed
• 40:48
  and said that's him there but if one guy was just ly white he probably could have
• 40:52
  just been like it's the white Jesus look like Kuno the [ __ ] does Jesus care
• 41:00
  yeah he not white no not white so on
• 41:03
  that same note L'Oreal the Cosmetics uh company have decided to remove the word
• 41:09
  whitening as a plus from all of their uh creams do you remember that stuff they
• 41:15
  sold over at the Zam Zam Market in Orbin the the MH whitening everywhere here
• 41:21
  skin Whitener everywhere here yeah really that was weird people here never
• 41:27
  seen that before I saw I saw it in this on the shelf and I picked it up and I'm
• 41:32
  like well that can't be what I what it sounds like I'm I'm just projecting some
• 41:35
  weird thing where I think everything's funny and then I'm looking at it reading
• 41:39
  it I'm like no this this is like they sell that and it's it's less to do with
• 41:45
  wanting to look like a white person and it's more to do with their cast system
• 41:50
  of oh in India in the Middle East basically there's this hierarchy
• 41:54
  depending on how dark you are and they kind of filters down here too and people
• 41:59
  stay out of the sun here because they don't want to tan everyone's desperately
• 42:02
  trying to avoid tanning over here um because they want to be as pale as
• 42:06
  possible which is the opposite of Australia but we grew up with people
• 42:08
  trying to be you know they're getting
• 42:10
  here as well yeah which yeah snail serum
• 42:16
  apparently is the best skin whitening you you everywhere here every
• 42:22
  shop cosmetic shop you go I've heard of that yeah I don't need it no no we don't
• 42:28
  no one needs it nobody needs it be whatever color you are and let's stop
• 42:32
  beating each other up about it yeah I couldn't get any wider I don't mean that
• 42:38
  as a flex I'm just saying you're quite white
• 42:42
  I um I was told once by a little girl uh that I was actually
• 42:48
  Peach oh sure we we did a shoot where we
• 42:51
  had kids and um and one of them was looking at me she was a m girl and so
• 42:58
  she was very dark and she was kind of looking at me scrutinizing me then ran
• 43:03
  off to her bag where she was playing with crayons and she like went through
• 43:07
  them until she found the exact right one and ran back to me and said this is the
• 43:12
  color you are and it was Peach that's funny
• 43:17
  yeah adorable the uh the other there's
• 43:21
  another show that got episodes pulled uh and I thought quite a few actually this
• 43:26
  is interesting well this is little different um South Park on HBO Max but
• 43:30
  somebody noticed that there are five episodes missing and they are the
• 43:33
  episodes that feature Muhammad mate I'm I'm surprised only five South Parks have
• 43:37
  gone well that's it's only those ones apparently so I was like that's
• 43:42
  interesting uh I mean obviously we can all we can all we know why they don't
• 43:48
  like it when you depict the The Profit well I guess just a weird thing to to
• 43:53
  concede at this point I I think the difference there is all the jokes cuz
• 43:57
  South Park are famous for making fun of anybody and everybody so they say this
• 44:02
  we don't just hate this one class or this one race or this one social group
• 44:07
  we will make fun of anything that we think is funny um got away with fun of
• 44:12
  the race or the social group they're making fun of well sometimes they do
• 44:17
  well yeah but they're also making fun of how they're trying to be clever about it
• 44:23
  and often they are speak but sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't don't make
• 44:27
  jokes about how you can't depict Muhammad they just depict Muhammad so
• 44:33
  they just don't give a [ __ ] yeah so it's it's not it's not that they've made a
• 44:36
  joke about oh isn't it funny you I mean they they have but they've done it by
• 44:40
  just being like here's Muhammad so I I can understand why that is slightly
• 44:44
  different than just you know like animating the you know the zenu myth and
• 44:51
  saying this is what scientologists actually think it feels like it is more
• 44:55
  of a middle finger comedy podcast Luke I've got some comedy for
• 45:01
  you um okay Luke you've you if you're
• 45:05
  you're nothing if not an ideas man right mhm um I would go as far as saying an
• 45:11
  inventor of sorts you haven't actually invented anything but you no I come up
• 45:16
  with the ideas and someone else hands but you you've come up with some great
• 45:19
  ideas and I've got a new challenge for you know you you wanted that controller
• 45:23
  that you control with your dick and you know we actually had some pretty good
• 45:26
  Des for that sent in um there's another competition not done by us this one's done by
• 45:32
  NASA and uh nassa uh are going to put people on the moon uh they're going to
• 45:39
  they're going to keep them up there actually for for a little while do it
• 45:42
  again they're going to live up there and um and they're they're going to need to
• 45:46
  uh use the facilities except there ain't no facilities so I think they're overco
• 45:50
  complicating this just go wh everywh you want mate it's the moon you don't got
• 45:57
  some gravity find aat some gravity exactly you don't you're not going to
• 46:01
  have the plumbing and everything set up just get a bucket away you go mhm you
• 46:06
  fill it up then you take it outside and you recycle it or whatever you're going
• 46:09
  to do with it you take it outside and you and you throw it and it slowly
• 46:13
  floats away look Luke into space these These are the answers they want this is
• 46:17
  the exact kind of conversations they're having with each other right now and
• 46:19
  they are willing to pay $35,000 of prize money to the person who
• 46:25
  comes up with the best way management proposal for the moon and I'm not being
• 46:30
  I'm not being silly by saying I think they're over complicated cuz n have been
• 46:34
  known to do this before remember when they had to design a pen that would work
• 46:37
  in space and then they asked the Russians what they did they went we just Ed a
• 46:40
  pencil yeah yeah they're doing the same thing here they're trying they've got a
• 46:45
  very simple problem that they're over complicating you think they're going to
• 46:49
  solve they're going to go out with this toilet and someone's going to go what do
• 46:51
  you think of that Russia and Russia's going to be like we just [ __ ] in a
• 46:54
  bucket throw it into space like it it really depends on how long
• 46:59
  they're going to be there we don't eat while we're up there mate we just hold
• 47:02
  it in yeah wait how do they poop now in okay so they do have toilets in the
• 47:09
  shuttles use those no they they're saying okay let me find the quote let me
• 47:13
  find the quote find that okay our astronauts accomplish amazing feats of
• 47:19
  Science and exploration but at the end of the daying when you when you play
• 47:23
  this back can you put something from the soundtrack of like Apollo 13 or
• 47:26
  something behind this yeah and just enough just a little bit so we don't get
• 47:30
  sued yeah but at the end of the day they're still human and we need to we
• 47:34
  need to provide we need to surprise them I was about to say we need to provide
• 47:38
  them with the same Necessities as here on Earth so that they can continue to do
• 47:42
  their job that's actually not the quote I'm looking for where's
• 47:46
  the where's the quote that says the Luna L challenge yes that's what it's called
• 47:52
  seeks novel Design Concepts for low mass compact toilets that can reduce the
• 47:56
  current state-ofthe-art toilet mass by more than half from 54 kg to 31 kg and
• 48:02
  reduce the volume by 70% okay so they want to make them
• 48:06
  lighter and smaller hell lights a bucket basically the ones on the shuttle can
• 48:12
  fill up and it doesn't really matter the ones that they're actually going to have
• 48:17
  you can stack buckets inside each other yeah empty your bucket everyone's in
• 48:24
  charge of their own bucket it's got your name written on it in
• 48:29
  feces so we know who's pooped who isn't that a subplot from the Martian yeah in
• 48:36
  in the Martian they poop and it goes into these little bags and they use it
• 48:39
  as fertilizer I think there you go 35 you want $35,000 Grant to develop that
• 48:45
  you go right we is going to sue me they've already Nam that's what they've
• 48:49
  already named this emus astronauts right that was the name of his book about the
• 48:53
  space John bucket's going to going to sue Luke his Andy we's book about the
• 48:59
  moon was uh called Artemis so they've named it after him but they haven't read
• 49:03
  the [ __ ] first book he wrote where they poop into little bags poop in a bag
• 49:07
  there you go so I think it's easier to poop into a bucket though I've seen what
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  happens when they accidentally try to open a juice box and it
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  tears so I think that these toilets need to be Precision you know what I mean
• 49:21
  well there is some gravity on the moon isn't there yeah you're right you're
• 49:25
  right this is not zero yeah yeah yeah you just and then so so
• 49:29
  you got a bucket you got a little toilet seat on top of it you sit on it then you
• 49:34
  got a little you got a little uh piece of plastic that sits on that that you
• 49:37
  slide out you do your business before you stand up you do a bit of a wi wait
• 49:43
  so it's the piece of plastic that you slide at it's kind of like the crumbs
• 49:47
  tray on a toaster exactly like that so okay you slide that out you do you do
• 49:52
  your and then you slide that back and then you stand up
• 49:57
  then where do you slide it back to just over the top so this is just like a
• 50:01
  little tray that goes over the top of the oh it's just a covering actually so
• 50:05
  what you're describing is like one of those oldfashioned portable
• 50:09
  ashtrays oh d by $35,000 look listeners if you've got an
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  idea that you want to vet before you send directly to NASA send them into us
• 50:20
  first we'll read them out here on the podcast and we'll see if we can get a
• 50:23
  bit of a community going of of just uh crazy ways that we could impress NASA
• 50:28
  that space poop yeah speaking of space I went back and I watched the science
• 50:34
  fiction movie this week that we had discussed on last week's show oh very
• 50:39
  briefly we discussed the movie Interstellar like Christopher Nolan just
• 50:44
  by way of mentioning that you and I Matt had not really liked it despite really
• 50:50
  enjoying all of Christopher Nolan's films and and his philosophies in
• 50:53
  general like bits of it and Luke you hadn't seen it at all right no still
• 50:57
  haven't yeah I went ahead and watched it again because I just couldn't get it out
• 51:01
  of my head and I must say all the criticisms I had of it the
• 51:07
  first time are still there they're still there it's not that I notice new things
• 51:11
  and I'm like oh I was wrong about that I was wrong about this there is still a
• 51:15
  lot to pick apart but when I watched it without the expectation that it might be
• 51:19
  the greatest movie I've ever seen which is certainly how I went into it um I
• 51:23
  really did enjoy this and I think the problem is we are far harder on
• 51:29
  Christopher Nolan than we would be on any other director especially of Science
• 51:34
  Fiction you know sure like sci-fi people pull [ __ ] out of their ass and being
• 51:39
  like yeah this is just how [ __ ] lightsaber works and and we don't just
• 51:43
  go hold on doesn't light continue forever how does it stop is it feeding
• 51:46
  back on itself like but every little thing of interstella we were just like
• 51:51
  well I don't think that had happen like that I don't think there is a Fifth
• 51:55
  Dimension and I don't think it I don't none of that stuff bothered
• 52:00
  me the thing that bothered me was the well the main thing was that um the I
• 52:07
  mean spoilers that in the end it was
• 52:10
  love no well yeah what that's that was the only thing where it was like it was
• 52:16
  all this science and all this weird stuff and Fifth Dimension stuff and then
• 52:19
  but it's just communicated through love if like I I was okay with the ending it
• 52:25
  was an haway monologue about the Transcendent Power of Love that I think
• 52:30
  ruined it and I think if you just removed that completely out of it and
• 52:35
  kept the ending the same you wouldn't naturally make that assumption that like
• 52:39
  oh love is what's connected him that's why he's able to communicate with us
• 52:44
  yeah you would have just gone okay this was a significant moment in his life and
• 52:48
  therefore he is in a feedback loop on that moment while he's in that Fifth
• 52:54
  Dimension because if if time was like space and you could go anywhere in it
• 53:00
  places exist even when you're not there therefore times exist even when you're
• 53:04
  not there so he could be in a kind of feedback loop of just a significant
• 53:08
  moment between him and his daughter if Anne haway hadn't ruined it by just
• 53:12
  going no love is an actual Force it's an element you're like no it's not it's not
• 53:18
  it's not and the guy you love is dead sorry spoilers but when you get there
• 53:23
  he's dead I started to say spoilers when you were talking about about The Fifth
• 53:27
  Dimension and time you know existing you know like M like space and and I was
• 53:31
  like no one's going to know they haven't seen the film that's not going to look
• 53:34
  even if you have seen the film and you actually know a little bit about [ __ ]
• 53:39
  theoretical physics it's still not a spoiler because it doesn't make any
• 53:42
  [ __ ] sense look I'll watch it again I do want to should I did like it I just
• 53:48
  just like I said that that bit at the end soured me on it and it made me kind
• 53:52
  of reflect badly on the stuff that came before cuz I was like really that's
• 53:55
  where he was going with all that yeah I I I felt the same H but I didn't feel it
• 54:00
  so much this time I felt like the only thing that really stood out to just be
• 54:03
  needing to be removed from the film with an Hathaway but I feel L about her roles
• 54:07
  in mosts was one of the main
• 54:12
  characters I great music some stuff I like it out the way sometimes I could
• 54:18
  take her a lever I don't I don't hate her like everyone else does and she was
• 54:21
  I think she she was good in um a good Catwoman she was the actually the best
• 54:26
  thing about [ __ ] Tim Burton Alison Wonderland I think oh yeah I skipped
• 54:29
  that garbage she was the best thing you know I was thinking about Edward Scissor
• 54:33
  Hands the other day right do you remember do you remember when Tim Burton
• 54:38
  was one of the best directors there was and Johnny Depp was one of the best
• 54:43
  actors there is mate I remember I've talked about this infinite times on the
• 54:47
  show I saw Batman at the [ __ ] movies Tim Burton's Batman in 1989 or whatever
• 54:53
  and I was like that is the greatest film I've ever seen M and then from that I
• 54:58
  watched a behind the scenes thing on TV and it was like this is Tim Burton he's
• 55:02
  the director and I was like I oh I want to be a director and then it was like
• 55:08
  this is Danny Elfman he wrote the music and I was like okay no I want to do that
• 55:12
  and then it was like this is Michael ke he like well I want to do that and I was
• 55:15
  just like I just want to I want to be movies I remember going to see that
• 55:19
  movies and people getting up and walking out wow so weird but then and then
• 55:25
  Edward siss hands came out and I was like I have to see everything that this
• 55:27
  Tim Burton person does thing is too is Tim Burton is a great example of
• 55:33
  teaching you what a director is because you're like man all of these films
• 55:37
  there's something about them they're all a bit dark they're a bit twisted they're
• 55:40
  a bit quirky it's like a thread is there like a crazy mind behind all this and
• 55:43
  then you see this Dark Twisted quirky dude and it's like I'm the director and
• 55:47
  you're like okay now I know what a director is yeah this dude with [ __ ]
• 55:52
  crazy hair wearing sunglasses in the middle of the night but justar J just
• 55:57
  such a joke and so did Johnny de there's this new film outcoming soon that I uh
• 56:02
  it's called high high ground and it's uh it's like this it's about Obi-Wan and
• 56:08
  Anakin yeah sorry I'm actually I'm mixing up two stories it's not called
• 56:12
  high ground it's uh a [ __ ] I can't remember the name of it it's got Robert
• 56:15
  patons in it as well and it looks very good but it's got Johnny Depp wearing
• 56:18
  weird sunglasses and a weird haircut doing a weird voice I like what is that
• 56:22
  what is that doing there that's what he is that's what he does now yeah sorry
• 56:26
  High Ground is is another film an Australian film that's coming out which
• 56:29
  actually looks very good Jack Thompson and uh it's got uh Simon Baker in it as
• 56:33
  well but if you look at the trailer on it's it's like about Aboriginal uh
• 56:39
  genocides back in the colonial days and all this stuff but all the comments
• 56:43
  under it are I wonder who you and
• 56:46
  McGregor plays like it's just all Anakin Anakin stuff I have The High
• 56:53
  Ground oh well we'll stop then underestimate my power what a
• 56:59
  performance the thing is though right in movies we often like we pick on we pick
• 57:05
  on moments like that oh okay well he didn't fight anymore because [ __ ]
• 57:08
  obiwan had The High Ground what does that even [ __ ] mean but like it was
• 57:12
  only because of the execution of that that made that really [ __ ] I remember
• 57:16
  when we were making the tail job we were doing a car crash right a car chase and
• 57:20
  we wanted to know how do you end a car chase and the best car chase that we
• 57:25
  could think of in any mov Brian and I could come up with was
• 57:28
  Raiders Of The Last Arc when he [ __ ] chases that truck at the end the arc on
• 57:33
  the truck he drives another truck up jumps on it it beats up all the guys in
• 57:37
  the back gets around beats up the driver and then the the car with the Nazis in
• 57:43
  it the the officers follows them right how do they get away so I rewatched it
• 57:48
  you know how they get away you know how they get away the car
• 57:52
  skids and the chase Music Stops and the We Got Away music
• 57:59
  starts and you just know that they got away and that's it that's it right it's
• 58:04
  all in the execution that's the secret yeah Spielberg genius we're probably
• 58:09
  pushing on the hour but we we did have a couple of celebrity deaths last week
• 58:13
  that it's going to be old news if we don't mention them yeah and this one
• 58:17
  it's a shame we missed this last week cuz this was sort of breaking as we were
• 58:20
  recording and we sort of Jo Joel schumacker yeah Gonzo famous
• 58:27
  for Batman yeah but here's the thing right because Joel Schumacher gets a lot
• 58:31
  of [ __ ] because he made arguably the worst Batman movies ever made ever
• 58:36
  they're awful they're [ __ ] awful and um I watched some clips online the other
• 58:42
  day of the ones that he did I remember Batman and Robin being bad but in my
• 58:46
  head Batman Forever was actually not too bad uh it's not [ __ ] great sorry it's
• 58:53
  [ __ ] awful like it's yeah [ __ ] that was the first one to have for him
• 58:57
  to have nipples wasn't it yes yeah and she touches him yeah Chase Meridian she
• 59:04
  touch Kidman yeah no it's awful but I just like to remind people that Joel
• 59:09
  Schumaker has made some really really good movies too oh yeah albe it a long
• 59:15
  time ago St Elmo fire was his first film and it's a classic followed that up with
• 59:21
  the Lost Boys which is also a classic then a couple of years later he made a
• 59:26
  film that I saw when it first came out scared the [ __ ] out of me and I never
• 59:30
  watched it again until today when I decided to give flatliners another look
• 59:36
  and I've got to say flatliners yeah and it's
• 59:41
  fantastic and you should go back and watch this there's been a remake ignore
• 59:45
  it right just generic movie number 72 the original
• 59:51
  flatliners great concept and just beautifully executed for STS it happens
• 59:57
  in some kind of post-apocalyptic world I mean they don't say that it's supposed
• 1:00:00
  to just be the world but the way it's art directed everything's got
• 1:00:04
  scaffolding on it every vent's got smoke coming out of it everything's got a red
• 1:00:08
  backlight on it everything's derel you don't know if something's about to is
• 1:00:13
  halfway being constructed or halfway to be torn down um their medical school is
• 1:00:18
  in an old dilapitated church just because of the symbolism of Surgeons
• 1:00:23
  playing God you know there's statues everywhere it's like really cool you
• 1:00:29
  know the last time I saw that I probably was I would have been a young teenager
• 1:00:34
  mhm and so I probably yeah I feel like too probably would have missed a lot of
• 1:00:38
  what it was like I enjoyed it back then but I probably didn't understand it as
• 1:00:41
  much as I would now so maybe I should go back and watch that one I seem to recall
• 1:00:45
  seeing trailers for it at some point at at the theater I don't recall
• 1:00:51
  when I actually watched it but uh Kei the suin right y yes oh it's the whole
• 1:00:56
  whole Brat Pack ke for southernland yeah that's um Julia Roberts in one of her
• 1:00:59
  earliest roles oh and uh what's the guy with the weird Pig
• 1:01:06
  noose from the 80s you know Pig noos
• 1:01:11
  Kevin Bacon Kevin Bacon come on he's got a he's a good actor but he's got a weird pck his
• 1:01:17
  name's bacon you know what's funny too like I was on a little bit of a kick this week
• 1:01:23
  of watching either movies I had never seen from that period late 80s early 90s
• 1:01:27
  or movies that I had seen and had no memory of and there was another one I
• 1:01:32
  watched that I actually don't think I had seen at all single white female now
• 1:01:37
  I'm sure you're familiar with this movie right that's the Madonna one isn't it no
• 1:01:41
  no no no that's body of evidence single white female is Bridget Fonda and uh
• 1:01:48
  right Jennifer Jason Lee right now I hadn't seen this before but I was very
• 1:01:54
  familiar or I thought I was with the plot when I say single white female I'm
• 1:01:59
  trying to think of what it's about it's an advertisement for a for a like a
• 1:02:05
  lodger or something for for a roommate yeah housemate yeah yeah yeah yeah but
• 1:02:09
  if if somebody said to you like oh somebody's pulling a single white female
• 1:02:14
  on me oh like a uh identity theft yeah right that's
• 1:02:20
  what I've always thought it's not no she dresses up like
• 1:02:25
  her it doesn't her hair like and all of that stuff because she wants to be her
• 1:02:29
  twin sister she had a twin sister who died and she tries to make other women
• 1:02:33
  her twin and I was like H [ __ ] 35 years everyone's been like single white
• 1:02:39
  female's identity theft it's not it's it's just not right good movie though
• 1:02:45
  that's another one where it's just like it's supposed to be just be New York but
• 1:02:49
  it's like everything's got a backlight on it and you know everything's got
• 1:02:53
  creepy Shadows yeah I love the way they made movies back then I watched Razer
• 1:02:57
  back too during the during the week Russell M's you seen Razer back the pig movie
• 1:03:03
  that's the pig one yeah yeah killer Pig yeah yeah I know is that the guy from
• 1:03:09
  The Howling no no I don't who's the guy from The
• 1:03:15
  Howling 3 who's like in the scene you're being raped by monsters oh who was that
• 1:03:21
  guy um yes oh [ __ ] what is his name you're being gang raped by
• 1:03:27
  monsters yeah he's like a director yeah ah anyway doesn't matter doesn't matter
• 1:03:32
  I know I know who you mean though a Hing three but at the end of that Joel
• 1:03:36
  Schumaker geek of the week well we've got another potential geek of the week
• 1:03:41
  Ian Holm yeah so I mean how do you feel about Ian Hol Luke what do I know of Ian
• 1:03:47
  Hol oh for [ __ ] sake come on you know Ian Holm he's ash from Alien he's um
• 1:03:53
  Bilbo from Lord of the Rings I think Lord of the Rings you like alien though
• 1:03:58
  I like alien though I actually started watching that the other day imagine
• 1:04:02
  [ __ ] everything imagine him drowning in milk that's how he died that's that's
• 1:04:08
  how he went that's how he wanted to go God he's been a lot of stuff he was the
• 1:04:13
  surgeon in from Hell who was Jack the Ripper
• 1:04:17
  spoilers spoilers for that movie that comic and that conspiracy theory yeah
• 1:04:24
  exactly he was basically in every movie just not a m not the main character in
• 1:04:29
  yeah he's been in everything since 1957 yeah Jesus including a lot of uh
• 1:04:36
  beloved franchises I I I tried I bought what I thought was the trade paperback
• 1:04:41
  of from Hell A couple of years ago I found out online I was like [ __ ] this is
• 1:04:45
  cheap I'm snapping this up and then issue one arrived at my house I was like
• 1:04:50
  oh oh no I've got I know how I can miss it it's [ __ ] huge um it's there
• 1:04:56
  somewhere so you you choose Joel schumacker over Ian Hall well we're
• 1:05:00
  alled to surprises me actually are we allowed to have more G GE awakes and GE
• 1:05:04
  of the week it's GE of the week well I don't know M you make the rules yeah see
• 1:05:09
  I don't know he's sort of losing me with the whole Lord of the Ring stuff not a
• 1:05:13
  geek not enough of a geek because he was in Lord with the
• 1:05:17
  Rings yeah he's not a geek he's more of a nerd to be [Laughter]
• 1:05:23
  honest but then he I no he he can be geek of the week as well okay geek I'll
• 1:05:30
  just play the jingle
• 1:05:31
  [Music]
• 1:05:39
  twice Matt is there like a is there a geekdom word for people that
• 1:05:45
  specifically like Tolen and Lord of the Rings that's a good question I'm sure
• 1:05:48
  there are there must be a word for that must be a term right middle or something
• 1:05:54
  or yeah I don't know not one of them ringos ringos that's a that's a good one
• 1:06:00
  I'm definitely not a Ringo
• 1:06:04
  I I love I the fellowship not the extended editions because I think
• 1:06:10
  there's a reason all that [ __ ] didn't make it into the cut um there's some
• 1:06:14
  good stuff in extended edition and and the second one is maybe even better I
• 1:06:20
  thought the third one tape it off and the The Hobbit is garbage yeah I love
• 1:06:26
  all all a lot of the Rings films love them The Hobbit agreed garbage I don't
• 1:06:31
  it's like a completely different filmmaker made all it's like someone is
• 1:06:34
  trying to do a Peter Jackson fan film know what the [ __ ] happened to him I'm
• 1:06:38
  still sort of find it weird how it was done to me they would have done their
• 1:06:41
  Hobbit first and then that as one movie to sort of test it all out gaug the
• 1:06:45
  water if you had to and then you go and make lord of rings and do the three
• 1:06:49
  large ones but they just went the other way but decid make the smaller book into
• 1:06:54
  three movies about nothing y because they like money money is good but yeah I
• 1:06:59
  would have done it the other way but what do I know I actually also would
• 1:07:03
  have thought you might have an easier time convincing a studio to let you make
• 1:07:08
  The Hobbit than yeah convincing them to do three backtack Lord of the Rings cuz
• 1:07:14
  the hob the hobbit's much more palatable unless the unless the dragon sounds more
• 1:07:18
  complicated than what you get in Lord of the Rings an army of how you going to do
• 1:07:23
  that yeah I didn't like I didn't like the way they did the
• 1:07:27
  Dragon no I didn't like any of the action sequences in the I I'm saying
• 1:07:32
  it's [ __ ] ridiculous it's all just like and coincidence like the only
• 1:07:36
  reason the dwarves are alive is because they just coincidentally fall into a m
• 1:07:39
  as it goes by it's [ __ ] that whole sequence is but here's the thing there's
• 1:07:44
  bad movies out there that don't annoy me this annoys me because it doesn't have to be
• 1:07:51
  bad pet Jackson used to be [ __ ] excellent he made excellent films in the
• 1:07:57
  same series as these films and now I'm like what are you doing same just make
• 1:08:01
  them like them yeah I actually thought I thought maybe it had just been years
• 1:08:06
  since I'd seen the Lord of the Rings and maybe I was wrong and maybe they were
• 1:08:10
  not as good as I remember and I watched them again cuz they were on Netflix and
• 1:08:14
  5 minutes into Fellowship I'm like no this is a great movie like there's a
• 1:08:18
  reason why this was so good yep and the
• 1:08:22
  hobbits anyway garbage I I I I watched the first one and that was it third
• 1:08:29
  one's the worst the first Hobbit about lord of rings the third Hobbit is man
• 1:08:34
  you haven't even seen schmeel you can't [ __ ] criticize you haven't seen the
• 1:08:38
  good who's schmeel exactly
• 1:08:43
  schle he's not into Lord of the Rings clearly I I don't get fantasy I really
• 1:08:48
  don't I try but it's not for me I
• 1:08:53
  need you know where I act out my fantasies in the after party that's all
• 1:08:58
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