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The Aftermath of Telling My Truth with Sarah Colonna · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 1: for it? This exclusive place that Dad has connections with.
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  Speaker 1: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
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  Speaker 1: It's Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 3: Where?
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  Speaker 1: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I got it on Dundale Cars. Lift? Please.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going past Kimmage?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 4: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 4: When you're on the road, when you're on the go,
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  Speaker 4: Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood
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  Speaker 4: tales for real life.
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  Speaker 1: Mr. Sake and Serial Data and Serial Sister. You'll be addicted.
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  Speaker 1: Listen in, listen up. Woo, woo. Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Lots of fun, juicy
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  Speaker 1: things to talk about with Sarah Colonna, one of our
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  Speaker 1: favorites and a good friend of mine. But first, I
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  Speaker 1: just want to address what happened this weekend. For those
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  Speaker 1: of you that are not part of Patreon, I did
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  Speaker 1: drop a Patreon on Sunday evening because of what transpired
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  Speaker 1: in my personal life on Saturday night. And On Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: this is not a great photo, so I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know if I want to put this up. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: post it, but my sister and I were in Palm
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  Speaker 1: Desert and we met up with Kelly Dodd and Megan Weaver,
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  Speaker 1: who is best known for being on Jeff Lewis's TV show,
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood House Lift, as well as a regular on his
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  Speaker 1: radio show. And I have known her for years. She's
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  Speaker 1: been on this show as an individual guest a few
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  Speaker 1: years ago. She's been to my house for a couple
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  Speaker 1: dinner parties as well as an all-girl birthday party. We've
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  Speaker 1: gone out several times with Just Girls. We've been very
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  Speaker 1: friendly for a long time. And I was thrilled to
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  Speaker 1: have a fun day with them. We had a fun
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  Speaker 1: day and met up at Kelly Dodd's house that night
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  Speaker 1: in which we were having a great conversation. And then
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  Speaker 1: she turned to me and said the most cruel things
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  Speaker 1: that anyone has ever said to me to my face
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  Speaker 1: in my life. She did it in front of several
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  Speaker 1: people and including my sister, the attorney. And it was
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  Speaker 1: it was horrible. And I, you know, I left in
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  Speaker 1: tears and I went back to my sister's house and
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  Speaker 1: I recorded a Patreon from my phone, not knowing if
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  Speaker 1: I would share it. I kept checking my phone thinking
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  Speaker 1: she's obviously going to realize how unfair and cruel this was.
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  Speaker 1: you know, and text me. Nothing, nothing in the morning
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  Speaker 1: from her, still have yet to hear, and I'm recording
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  Speaker 1: this Monday at 11. So, yeah, I did share it,
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  Speaker 1: and I share things on Patreon because that's where I
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  Speaker 1: share my personal stuff, and I really love just getting
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  Speaker 1: the support and feedback, and sometimes it's like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: agree with you, Heather. In this one, it was 99.9%
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  Speaker 1: incredible support, and that's why I do it. The only
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  Speaker 1: other people that would support me that much are my
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  Speaker 1: parents and their dad. So, So that's why I do it.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to thank everybody for being so nice.
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  Speaker 1: No one should have to ever experience something like this,
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  Speaker 1: whether you're 12 or 52. It was awful. And I
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  Speaker 1: have spoken to Jeff. I shared my story. We've been
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  Speaker 1: friends for so long, for over 15 years. We've never
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  Speaker 1: gone six months without seeing each other in person. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've been on his show from the very beginning. I've
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  Speaker 1: known Kelly Dodd since 2014.
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  Speaker 2: It was so bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: And I was made to feel that these people that
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  Speaker 1: are on his show don't like me. There's been a
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  Speaker 1: lot of talking about me behind my back. And it
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  Speaker 1: was an awful feeling because every time I would do
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  Speaker 1: that show, I would be thrilled to go and left
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  Speaker 1: there on a high and feeling like the people in
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  Speaker 1: that room enjoyed me. She made it very clear that
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  Speaker 1: they do not. Um, I have not heard from anybody
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  Speaker 1: except for Jeff. Um, so I, I'm confident that Jeff
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  Speaker 1: and I can remain friends. Um, I will never do
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  Speaker 1: his show again. That's how I feel. He hopes that
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  Speaker 1: I changed my mind at this point. I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: And what's kind of beautiful about that is when I
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  Speaker 1: had times where I felt like this in my previous
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  Speaker 1: job on TV for seven and a half years, I,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have the option to leave. I didn't have
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  Speaker 1: another way to be creative and have a platform or
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  Speaker 1: make money. And now I do. Thanks to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks to the empire that I built. That feels like
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  Speaker 1: an empire, even though it's a small one. I don't
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  Speaker 1: ever have to be in the presence of anybody that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't find me wonderful. One of the things I said
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  Speaker 1: on the Patreon episode was, at this age, I don't
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  Speaker 1: fuck with anyone who doesn't find me wonderful. Annie's going
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  Speaker 1: to make merch. It's going to compete with Send It
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  Speaker 1: to Daryl. And no, I really feel like that. And
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  Speaker 1: if and when I do get any kind of apology
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  Speaker 1: from her, Megan Weaver, to me, I will be confident
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  Speaker 1: that she's really only sorry that I shared the story.
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  Speaker 1: And I shared the story because I don't think, I've
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  Speaker 1: never been in the position to protect people that treat
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  Speaker 1: me horribly and neither should you. And she had all
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  Speaker 1: day to reach out and say, I think you're feeling bad.
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  Speaker 1: She did not care that I was feeling bad all night,
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  Speaker 1: all morning, while she was having fun at tennis, while
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  Speaker 1: she was posting. I still wish her success. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to see her lose her position or anything in life.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what she's going to say, why she
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  Speaker 1: chose to say those awful things. 100%, I think she
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  Speaker 1: felt all those things. And she has a right to
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  Speaker 1: feel it, but I don't have, there's no need for
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  Speaker 1: me to have ever had to receive that information in
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  Speaker 1: that way ever. And, um, and I've never done anything
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  Speaker 1: outwardly cruel to say to her or exclude her or anything.
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  Speaker 1: So it was just, it was just like really unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't wish that on anybody. I also want
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  Speaker 1: to clarify that one of the players in the story
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  Speaker 1: was Chef Stu, who is on and off again boyfriends
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  Speaker 1: with Jeff Lewis. And when I told the story, I
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  Speaker 1: said he was agreeing with the first part of the
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  Speaker 1: conversation of the stuff she had said. That's why I
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  Speaker 1: know there's been a lot of conversation behind my back,
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  Speaker 1: which makes me very uncomfortable to enter that space again.
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  Speaker 1: But as the conversation went on and as she kept
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  Speaker 1: saying more and more like weird and mean things to me,
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  Speaker 1: really attacking my character and morals. Stu did defend me.
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  Speaker 1: He did say this has gone on too far. He
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  Speaker 1: did text me that night. He did call me the
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  Speaker 1: next day. And he was very nice. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I made that clear in the Patreon, but
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to say that. And also during this conversation,
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  Speaker 1: I want to say that Kelly and Rick were not
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  Speaker 1: present to hear it. She said it in front of
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  Speaker 1: my sister and her boyfriend and Stuart. And I'm excited
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  Speaker 1: to do the show with my friend. I'm wearing this shirt,
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Loves Me the Most, which is a Juicy Scoop
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  Speaker 1: merch item, which I have kind of felt a little,
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  Speaker 1: it's a little controversial, but I feel like I really
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  Speaker 1: needed it today. So there you go. You can get
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  Speaker 1: the scoop from there or not. And, you know, don't
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  Speaker 1: be going after anybody. I don't need it. I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to share it with you guys. Of course, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just like anything, people leave comments on people's pages and
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  Speaker 1: And that doesn't bring me any joy. I just needed
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  Speaker 1: to tell my story because it was just so weird
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  Speaker 1: and devastating and made me feel like I was the
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  Speaker 1: Catholic school girl who got invited to the cool public
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  Speaker 1: school party. No, nothing against public school kids, but this
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  Speaker 1: happened to me when I was eight. And I really
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  Speaker 1: thought they were excited to have me. And the whole
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  Speaker 1: reason they invited me was to ambush me that night
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  Speaker 1: and be cruel to me to the point where I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to call my mom and have her pick me up,
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  Speaker 1: but I knew that she probably wouldn't. So thank God
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  Speaker 1: for Uber and my sister, because I did not have
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  Speaker 1: to stay in that environment any longer than I wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: And I left. And that's what it felt like. And
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  Speaker 1: it was awful. So there you guys go. And so
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  Speaker 1: I want to just really quickly before Sarah gets her,
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  Speaker 1: just give you the latest on the Vanderpump. We are
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  Speaker 1: not going to do a whole day of Vanderpump, but
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  Speaker 1: there was one thing that has transpired that I thought
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  Speaker 1: you'd find interesting. Katie Maloney, who was married to Tom Schwartz.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Schwartz and Tom Sandoval are all the best friends, right?
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  Speaker 1: Tom Schwartz had this roommate. after he moved out, a
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  Speaker 1: platonic roommate named Joe, who happened to be Kristen Doty,
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  Speaker 1: who is a former person on the show, friends with everybody,
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  Speaker 1: and was also the ex-girlfriend of Tom Sandoval. This was
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  Speaker 1: her former best friend. They were best friends. This girl
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  Speaker 1: was always around. From November on, or even prior to that,
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  Speaker 1: Schwartz and Joe and Raquel and Tom Sandoval would go
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  Speaker 1: out and they didn't, to Ariana's knowledge, I don't believe
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  Speaker 1: she thought it was a double date. I think she
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  Speaker 1: thought it was all platonic friends hanging out, but the
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  Speaker 1: four of them would go out a lot and spend
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  Speaker 1: a lot of time together. We now know that Schwartz
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  Speaker 1: and Joe are a couple. And so the question, which
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  Speaker 1: was all wondering, just like how much did Erica Girardi know?
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  Speaker 1: How much did Tom Schwartz know? And when did he
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  Speaker 1: find out? Because if they were all hanging out like
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  Speaker 1: this and Joe and Schwartz were This girl, Joan Schwartz,
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  Speaker 1: were intimate or whatever. And they're hanging out with two
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  Speaker 1: other people who we know have been intimate. since August,
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  Speaker 1: and this is in November, it's also just very telling.
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  Speaker 1: So over the weekend, Katie Maloney posted, Joe is spooky.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, none of us could stand to be around her.
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  Speaker 1: Her energy is on par with a crackhead. But when
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  Speaker 1: Tom and I announced our divorce almost a year ago,
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  Speaker 1: the last thing she texted me was, quote, Bieber loves you.
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  Speaker 1: I love you. And I'm so supporting of your inner
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  Speaker 1: thoughts and visions. Live in the moment. You're a gem.
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  Speaker 1: And I've always respected you. I love you. XO Joe.
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  Speaker 1: She continues to write, Joe is a psycho. And I
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  Speaker 1: will also light her on fire with Rachel, aka Raquel,
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  Speaker 1: aka Rachel. So this is an interesting development, as I said. Also,
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  Speaker 1: the Vanderpump trailer for the next episodes just dropped yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: And some of it is from before the scandal. And
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it is since the scandal. And it
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  Speaker 1: is so raw. And it's this creepy music. And I
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  Speaker 1: have chills just thinking about it. But we see Ariana
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  Speaker 1: and Tom talking. And he goes, do you want anything?
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  Speaker 1: Like he's being in the kitchen, like trying to get
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  Speaker 1: her a cup of something. And she goes, for you
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  Speaker 1: to die. That's the way it ends. We also see
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  Speaker 1: Raquel saying, I don't regret this relationship.
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  Speaker 5: We.
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  Speaker 1: It looks so good. I have chills and this is
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  Speaker 1: just going to be the juiciest show ever. So you
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  Speaker 1: have to watch that. Super juicy and exciting. So here
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  Speaker 1: we go. Here we go with Sarah. Let's bring her on. Hello.
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  Speaker 1: And I have the Juicy Skipper with the best hair.
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  Speaker 1: I've got Sarah Colonna, funny, great skin, just a good time.
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  Speaker 1: My friend, welcome back to Juicy Scoop, girl.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, girl. Thanks for the compliments. My hair is feeling
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  Speaker 2: a little big this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 1: I think it looks great. Now, you shared with me
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  Speaker 1: this picture, and I would like you to explain what
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  Speaker 1: is this sad situation of you. This is you on
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  Speaker 1: the road. As a traveling comedian.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no.
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  Speaker 1: As a traveling funny lady?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: What is this?
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  Speaker 2: It was actually not a comedian job. Okay. It was
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  Speaker 2: I was visiting a friend of mine from college. Now,
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  Speaker 2: it's a bit of an involved story, but I have
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  Speaker 2: not seen him in years and years. And we were
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  Speaker 2: like him and another friend. There was like four of
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  Speaker 2: us that were really close in college.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And he reached out to us in December and said,
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  Speaker 2: I have some health issues. We should all get together.
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  Speaker 1: Nice.
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  Speaker 2: He has prostate cancer, but he is in treatment. So
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  Speaker 2: we're not quite sure, but it was kind of like,
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of cool. It was one of those
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  Speaker 2: things where everyone was like, yeah, great. We're going to Danville, Illinois.
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  Speaker 1: Nice.
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  Speaker 2: To see him, even though we all haven't been together
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  Speaker 2: in years. Well, he said, I have plenty of room
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  Speaker 2: for you guys. He has like an apartment, a two
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  Speaker 2: bedroom apartment, but it was going to be three girls.
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  Speaker 2: And so I thought, Let's get a hotel. Yeah, let's
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  Speaker 2: just do a hotel. He said, they're not great around here,
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  Speaker 2: but get one close to me.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: He said, there's one that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And this is the one that he thought was fine.
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  Speaker 2: But he didn't know. In his defense, he had no idea.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, it looks like a bloody shirt in
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  Speaker 2: the corner.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, there's construction happening. Well.
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  Speaker 2: I guess that's construction. It doesn't look like construction that
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  Speaker 2: anyone knew what they were doing. You know, it looks
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  Speaker 2: like someone just went and knocked the wall out and
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  Speaker 2: then was like, that looks good, and left. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I like that there's the TVs.
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  Speaker 1: So you walked in.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't. I'll be honest. I hadn't turned around
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  Speaker 2: yet when I walked in. It was, like, late at night,
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  Speaker 2: and I walked. Oh, late at night on top of it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I walked straight up to the desk, and the lady,
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  Speaker 2: she was kind of asleep in the back.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so I said, oh, miss, you know, hey. So
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  Speaker 2: she woke up and came over and I checked in
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  Speaker 2: and then I turned around and saw what was happening.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, I asked her for some water because
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  Speaker 2: I had just driven from like 45 minutes away after
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  Speaker 2: two flights, you know. So I asked her for some
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  Speaker 2: water and she said, oh, we don't have any water yet.
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  Speaker 1: And I.
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  Speaker 2: Thought, well, I don't know what that means. You know,
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  Speaker 2: does that mean the whole hotel? Does that mean.
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  Speaker 1: So there's no, like no bottles of water anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: She said, I think we have some pop in the corner.
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  Speaker 1: And I. The word pop is.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: And I also didn't know what, like what corner. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know what any of that meant. So I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So then I turned around and then I saw that. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought this doesn't, this doesn't look right to me.
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  Speaker 2: But I trekked on over to the elevator and that
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  Speaker 2: elevator opened and there was like, Some hand smears and
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  Speaker 2: some graffiti.
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  Speaker 1: Like someone was trying to escape from the elevator?
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  Speaker 2: It kind of looked like someone had tried to get out.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe they tried to write. There was names. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: that was the last thing they ever wrote. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Or they're just tagging that elevator as their gang space.
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  Speaker 1: So no one else could go in it.
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  Speaker 2: Sure. I don't know that there's a big gang problem
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  Speaker 2: in Danville, Illinois. I think it was just.
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  Speaker 1: No one got around to cleaning it.
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  Speaker 2: So I turned back around and I, cause I thought, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to go stay at my friends. Cause
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  Speaker 2: now it was only two of us. One of the
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  Speaker 2: girls couldn't end up coming. And he said he had
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  Speaker 2: a trundle bed. So I was like, I'm just going
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  Speaker 2: to go back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I went up to the lady and I said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, this just isn't what I was expecting. Can
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  Speaker 2: I uncheck in? And she said, she was, she was
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  Speaker 2: so confused. I felt bad because she was like, I
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  Speaker 2: guess she was offended. She said, nobody's ever, she said,
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  Speaker 2: what's wrong with our hotel? First she said that.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought, So was it not a name brand?
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  Speaker 1: It was a Wyndham.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Owned by Wyndham. It was like a Days, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: that Wyndham had purchased.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And their reviews online were fine. Like, it said there
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  Speaker 2: was a restaurant.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you did your homework?
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  Speaker 2: I did my homework.
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  Speaker 1: Because I definitely don't do my homework about stuff like this.
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  Speaker 1: I did. I do now, but there was a long
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  Speaker 1: time where I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: No, I do. Okay. And I'm not, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm picky, but I've stayed in some, as you know,
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  Speaker 2: some real shit as comedians. Sometimes there's just no option.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So I said, well, I got to go. And she said,
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  Speaker 2: just nobody's ever done this before. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: to do. And I said, it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: Was there any part of you that being a nice
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  Speaker 1: female from our generation that never wants to hurt anyone's
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: feelings that you thought, maybe I'll act like I checked in,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: pay for it, and then just run away? Yes. To
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: not hurt this woman's feelings?
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't realize that her feelings would be hurt.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: I thought she'd be like, yeah, no, I know we're
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: missing a wall, and I told you there's no water,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: and I get it. Of course you're not going to
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: stay here. I kind of thought that was going to
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: be her response, but she seemed deeply offended. So then
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: that's how I said, it's cool. I'll figure it out.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: She goes, well, where did you book it? And I
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: was like, on your website, on the Wyndham website. She's like,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was all.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Also, whenever you book something that's not on theirs, they're like,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: that's why it sucks. That's why you got charged. That's
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: why your room isn't here. Did you do it on
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: this other website? We can't help you.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Haven't you ever had that happen?
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: When you get like a deal, like an Expedia or something,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: they're always like, whoops. Yeah. That's why you don't... That's
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: why you got to do it on ours.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: And you're like, what? Well, I did do it on theirs,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: but what if I did it on Expedia... I think, yeah.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Is that why the wall got knocked down? Yeah, that's
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: why I think.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: They always want you to say, oh, I did on this.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: And they're like, we don't fuck with third parties. So
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: that's why you're screwed.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: That's why you don't get cleaning service. That's why we
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: don't know who you are.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. But the next morning when
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I woke up and I was on my American Express app,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: it was already refunded. And I didn't even make a
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: phone call.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: But I did walk in to meet my friends. I
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: texted him. I said, I can't. I said, trundle bed
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: still open, right? He was like, yeah. I said, cool.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I can't stay here. And then I walked in and
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: it was like this little dive bar. And he was
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: with a couple of friends and they kind of made
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: a couple of quick comments like, oh, you know, California,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: you know, you're not in California about the hotel. And
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I go, no, no, no, no.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I'm from Farmington, Arkansas.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Here's the photo. And they went, oh, Jesus Christ.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: They were like, we don't know what happened.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Ooh, city ladies.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: California blown. You're like, no, no, no.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: No, this is just not. I like that there's a TV, though,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: just in case you want to stand in the middle
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: of that. There's nowhere to sit, so you can just
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: stand there and stare at the TV.
• 18:18
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• 18:34
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• 18:37
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• 18:40
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• 18:43
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• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: filed against me. When your free will was about to
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: be taken from you, what would you do if it
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: was given back?
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I need a home dad. What happens next? When I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: came in, he started crying. Everybody in life encounters hardships.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: What defines them is not those hard moments that they
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: go through. It's about what happens next.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: every day was.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: You're worth the work.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches. You can
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: You know, there's been a debate going on for many
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: years with the influx of the RBO, you know, which
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: is where you rent the houses from people. Is that
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: a better thing? That seemed a lot of people like that.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Then there were people I saw a big Some people
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: being like, no, hotels are the way to go. The
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: whole joy of going to a hotel is that you
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: can go to a hotel and be at a hotel
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: bar and leave it messy and all this other stuff.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Apparently this one had a bar, by the way.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: One of the stories that is Chris's favorite story of
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: mine is that I was staying at a hotel once
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, I'm going to go to
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the restaurant. I don't want to eat in the room
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: because I'm by myself all weekend. I'm going to go
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: to the restaurant and eat there. And when I got
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: to the restaurant, it was literally just like, It looked
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: like this, this room with like five tables in it,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: like no windows, no atmosphere, just like, and then one
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: guy came out and I was like, this is just
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: too depressing. I don't want to order the food here.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: And I go, oh, sorry, I have to go.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: So I didn't order any food and I went back
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: to my room, but I was hungry. So then I
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: ordered the room service and I made a whole backstory.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Like I have to go, you know, like this long story.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Cause I think I might've ordered like a water and whatever.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: And then when I ordered the food, he came to
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: deliver it. And I felt like it was so rude. Like,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I wanted to eat this food. And it was the
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: same thing that I had ordered with him. And then
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I took out the order. And then I went to
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: my room and ordered the room service from the place.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: And it was like, I did want this tuna melt.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I just didn't want it with you.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: And I just felt terrible about it. And so I
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: was like.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Listen, it's not, you know, this is not the fault
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: of the nice lady that I checked in with. And
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: that is not the fault of the Ruth. Sometimes we
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: just want to be alone.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: So I wanted to share this story that happened. I
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: think we discovered it on Thursday. And I said, I
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: have to talk about it with Sarah because... She knows
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Peter very well, my husband. So Peter and Drake were
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: going to go skiing. And originally they were going to
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: get a house with these other people. And they're going
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: to a place that is really just like for like
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: the hardcore skier. So I like to go to like
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Deer Valley, which is like very she, she and Park
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: City and easy runs. But since I wasn't going and
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: then all these people flaked. So he got Peter goes,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I just got a VRBO just for Drake and I.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: It's like a two bedroom, whatever.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: And I go, OK, fine.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: So.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: He gets there and they say they have... The skiing
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: is good. Drake's like, well... I go, how's the place?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I call him and he goes, well, it's like we're...
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: We're like in someone's basement. Like the people are upstairs.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: But dad and I each have our own rooms. And so,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's fine. He goes, they're nice.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: They're like, they left us these donuts and stuff. I go,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: what do you mean they left you these donuts? They said,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: if you want these donuts, you can have these donuts.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: And I go, okay, fine.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: So.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: They don't tell me anything about it. They just said
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: they had a good time skiing. So Peter comes back
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and he's like, whoa, they gave me a one-star review.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: You know, they can review the guest. And he's like,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and I gave them a five-star because they asked me
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: to review them. I was going to be the first review.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: And he's like, I didn't think it was that great,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: but I gave him a five-star. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: They asked him to review, and then they went and
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: gave him a one star? One star.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: And I go, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't think you
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: guys are telling me the whole story. I immediately call Drake,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and I go, Drake, do you really think those donuts
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: were left for you? Because I'm like, how did someone
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: get so upset? So Peter then sends me all the
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: exchange between them throughout the visit. And so as I
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: was reading it, I'm going to tell you what I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: was first thinking, and then there's a follow-up that happens.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: So the first exchange starts with Peter saying, okay, we
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: are on our way 30 minutes out. The owner says, great.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: See you soon.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: Hi.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Then on later in the day, hi, are there trash liners?
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: We need some and a few eggs for tomorrow. Thanks, Peter.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: And I go, wait a minute, Peter, why are you
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: asking for them to get you groceries? That's what I'm
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: trying to be like pushing the limit.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: And he goes, no, they said that they would get
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: that for us or something. So I'm like, All right.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Did you see any proof of that? Did you see
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: a text from anyone that said, can.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: We get you groceries? It comes a little bit later.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. So then he goes, we're skiing now.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I go, now this isn't a bed and breakfast. This
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: was a VRBO. So I'm confused. So this is them
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: having a great time. They're snowmobiling. They're skiing.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Thinking that they're coming home to some eggs.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then you got it. We have those for you.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: He said about the eggs, the owner. Then Peter says, hi,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for the thermostat. I'm like, see, Peter, you're
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: You're pushing it. He goes, I was freezing. We're in
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: a basement. He goes, we'd like it a couple degrees
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: in the bedroom. A couple degrees higher in the bedrooms.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: The guy goes, hi there. We can control the thermostat remotely.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: It's currently at 70 degrees. I'm like, I already feel
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: like this guy's getting irritated. 70 is appropriate. I like
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: a 72. Who are these pussies from California in Utah? Right,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: 70 is, yeah. So we can adjust it to any
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: temp you need. I'm bumping it up to 72. Please
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: let us know if you need it adjusted further. Like
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I can feel it. Yeah. But I was like having it.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: And I go, well, who are these people? And he said,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: they're like 30, a husband and a wife. And the
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: husband was like a bartender. So he would come home
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: at like midnight and he would take a shower. And
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: where Drake's room was, he could hear the water running
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and stuff. So Drake had like a less desirable room
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: than Peter. But they were like in the basement and
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: they thought it was fine. Peter also told me.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: So the people were upstairs.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: The whole time. Got it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Okay. Peter also told me there was another thing where
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: he said, you know, we'll meet you and go through
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the house rules, like when they were first checking in.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what were the rules? And he goes, well,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't want us to bring any of
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: our ski equipment inside and not wear any shoes inside.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: But I go, but you did? And he goes, I
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, like, you know, maybe. And I go, oh, God.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: And I go, and also, they... And then I find
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: out this is the first time these people have done
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: their VRBO.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: So I'm imagining this young couple. I'm thinking she never
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: wants to do this shit. Right. The bartender husband pushed
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: her to do it.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: He says, hey, it's just two people. It's actually sleep six.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It says for six. He's like, I don't have six people.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: So he's like, honey, it's just two. It's just a man.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: And his little son. And his little son. Yeah. And
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: then here comes 6'4 Drake and giant Peter with all
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: their freaking ski equipment and heavy shoes. And they even said, oh,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: you're coming here to ski? I don't know if they
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: thought they were making snowman or what. So, like, so
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think they liked that. Okay. So then it
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: continues on.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Hey, guys.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: The owner. Hope you're enjoying your time so far. We're
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: running errands before the snowstorm tonight. Is there anything we
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: can pick up to restock you for the morning? Would
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you like a unit refresh tomorrow? Restock beds, kitchen cleanup.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: They're saying they're going to do all this. Peter pushing it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Milk would be nice and a fresh up. Always pushing
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the limit.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: He goes, the guy goes, hi. Oh, then Peter goes, hi,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: we had a wonderful stay. We wanted to ski in
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the morning and come back at 12 to shower and
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: head out at 1230. Could we do that? Usually with VRBOs,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: they want you out by like 1030.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's okay. I was wondering why he's giving him time.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Pushing the limit.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: The guy says, absolutely. We don't have a check-in tomorrow,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: so we can do that. Is there anything else we
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: can do for you for the remainder of your stay?
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Peter says, everything is five star. We still have breakfast here.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: For tomorrow morning, we had fun time, meaning we have
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: enough of those eggs and that milk and we can
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: make our own breakfast. Yeah.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Self-sufficient that way.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: And he goes, we're happy to hear that. And we
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: are glad you get to squeeze in a bit more
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: skiing tomorrow. We would love it if you left us
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: our first review. Peter says, and then he goes, we'll
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: meet you at the unit for the walkthrough and check out. Now,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Peter says, running a bit late. Can we head out
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: at 1245? This is where the wife is like, I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: never wanted to do this. Okay? These giants....
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Stomping around in their snow gear.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: With their milk and eggs. Yeah.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Asking us for groceries. Is it a VRBO normally? The
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: point is you get your own groceries and stuff.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why this became an Airbnb. This is
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: what I think happened. I think they offered it. And again...
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe she didn't want him to offer it. Maybe they
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: didn't know they offered it. And now they're resentful. They're
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: feeling like they're running an air, like a bed and breakfast. Right.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: And you can't offer Peter eggs and milk and.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Cause he's going to say yes.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: He's going to say yes. Yeah. Peter's not the person
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: that's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't want to inconvenience you.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: That's not Peter.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is their fault for offering it because I've,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: any Airbnb, whatever I've stayed at, it's always been like,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: you bring your own, stuff. Okay.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: So then he says, we hope you had a great stay.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: We'd appreciate a good review for you in the unit.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: And so then Peter then writes, yes, I gave you
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: a five-star or whatever. And then not only gets the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: one-star review, they then wrote and said, we want $ 500 back,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: an extra $ 500.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: The people. Wait, what? For what?
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: They took a photo of a little piece of scrambled
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: egg on one of the chairs at the kitchen. So
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: while they were eating, I guess a piece of scrambled
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: egg fell on a chair. I'm not kidding. There was
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: a rug with like, there was a white part of
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the rug that looked like there was a small yellow marking. Okay.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: And therefore they want $ 500 extra.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: To pick up a piece of egg? Uh-huh. Okay. These people,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I do see where Peter pushed it.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: You got to be like, no, no, no.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: But he did repay by giving him a five-star review.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: He gave him a five-star review. Also, like you said,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: they did offer the groceries. So if someone offers it,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, if I was like, oh, cool.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: He's like, we're going out. We know where the grocery
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: store is. Whatever.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like that. Maybe if he was stomping
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: around in the ski gear, they got irritated about that.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I could see. He wasn't.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: The ski gear, I guess he didn't leave outside. He
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: put it inside. And also, he wore shoes, not ski boots.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: But he wore shoes and they didn't want shoes. But
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: he said none of that stuff was written in the
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: initial thing to order it. So when you do it,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: normally they should say, hey, there's no elevator. So we
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: can't have like a handicapped person here. Right. They need
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: to say all that stuff. So you don't get there
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: and then are on the fourth floor. Like one time
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: we rented a place and we were skiing in Aspen
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: and it was four stories high with no elevator. And
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: we had to bring up all of our ski gear
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and stuff.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, that's not fun.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: And when we got there, there was a burrito, half-eaten
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: burrito left in the microwave. And then while we were there,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: a glass happened to break and we cleaned it up
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: best we thought. And they gave us a one-star review
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: and said, you know, a glass was broken and all
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the stuff. And we're like, oh, you had no elevator.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: And there was a half-eaten burrito when we got there.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: And you didn't hear from us. Like, this is where
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know what people should do.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Because you either have your sad situation on a... It's
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: a risk. You never know. You can get lucky.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: And you can get not lucky.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: And you do... I mean, the thing is, you usually
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: can do a lot of, like, reading first, right? I
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: swear I read enough to think that... I mean, obviously
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: nobody had said, oh, no, the hotel has since turned
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: into a murder hotel since last time. But you didn't
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: have any reviews to go off for these people, right? So,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: and now... Peter should go change his probably and be like,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: they should, because if he wore shoes inside and if
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: he like tracked a bunch of stuff around, that's one thing,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: but they were just mad about a piece of egg
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: that didn't come off his shoe. You know what I mean?
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: So that's not $ 500.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the fight between the two of them
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: was probably like, we were never supposed to get them eggs.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Now there's eggs and I have to clean it. This
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: is what the wife's saying.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: And he's like, you know, I thought this was a
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: great way we could make more income. And she's like,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a man and his little boy.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was two, one, six, three, and one, six,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: five giant at my house eating eggs and, and demanding
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: that we, you know, but you could just.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Pick the egg up.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not, it's not, that's a little extreme.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: So then I go back to Drake and I go,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I think it goes down to the donuts. I think
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: that's weird that they offered you. Are you sure? I go,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: was it like a whole box and then you guys
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: had several and they didn't get any? And he goes, no, mom.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: They had two donuts left under like a glass dome
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: thing and said, we left you some donuts. And I'm like,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think that Drake would lie to you.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: No. I mean, and I just thought maybe he misunderstood
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and ate an entire thing of donuts. And then she
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: came home. from getting the eggs and was like, all
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I wanted was that one donut and that giant little
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: shit ate it. So I was trying to figure out
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: what happened.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Something's missing here. Something's missing, but I could be, you
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: might have to do a juicy scoop investigation.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I've interviewed both of them extensively, Peter and Drake.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Can we interview the owners of the VRBO? Cause I
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: want to talk to them and find out what happened
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: because this is, And for them to ask for five,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: now is Peter giving them the $ 500? I don't, that
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: doesn't seem right. Unless he actually ruined something.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. Or those donuts have gold
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: in the middle of them. I think this is going
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: to go be disputed or something. There's no way Peter
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: is agreeing to this. For a piece of egg being
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: in his chair? Yeah. Yeah. No. So that's the story.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Can he go back and change his review? I almost
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: feel like he should. Unless we get to the bottom
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: of it and something else happens. Can you change a
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: review after you leave a review? You kind of shouldn't
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: be allowed to.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Probably not.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I guess you shouldn't be allowed to.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think you should be allowed to because then
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: that makes it sound like a retaliation thing. Right, right.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: And that's what I'm trying to do is retaliate for you.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: And that's not right. I just think leaving the review,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: whether it's like you get reviewed on Uber or Lyft
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: and stuff, it is interesting. It reminds me of that,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: what was Black Magic? No, what's it called? That show
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: on Netflix that was- Black Mirror. Did you ever see
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: that Black Mirror?
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I never saw it.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. There was an episode in Black Mirror.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: It's so good if you guys have never seen Black Mirror.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: It's like a modern day Twilight Zone kind of a thing.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: And a lot of things are like in the future,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: just like the Twilight Zone was, the episodes. And it's
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the world is you get evaluated on everything. The way
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: you ordered a drink, whatever. People review you and your personality,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: your behavior, how nice of a person you are, whatever.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: And this one girl's score, like, keeps going down. And
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: then it gets to a point where, like, she can't,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: her friend is like, I can't have you be in
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: the wedding. Like, it's all public knowledge that you're, like,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: a 3-3. And the only bridesmaids I want are, like,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: five and above. And, like, you can't get housing. You can't, like,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: it's society, but it's all about, like, you know.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Rating you by your person.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Like this. And I'm sure the person got the idea from, like, wow,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: people get rated for, their behavior on Lyft and Uber
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: and this and that, which I mean, makes sense, you know,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: it's like, but you know, but, uh, you know, people
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: get thrown off airplanes now and none of that stuff
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: like existed 10 years ago where like your behavior could
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: be so examined, like really seeking out assholes.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen like your rating on Uber a
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: bit and kind of been confused? Cause they don't, they
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: don't do it by ride or anything, but I think
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I get like a four, eight or something. And I'm like,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: why am I not a five? I don't know what
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I've ever done. I always tip 20%. I never make
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: anyone wait. Can't figure out.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's almost like my, our, my, um, podcast
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: iTunes podcast rating. Like it's always that like a four,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: eight or something because there's enough people that whatever reason
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: hated me and brought it down to a one. So
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I think last I checked, it was like a four,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: eight and I don't know why it could have just
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: been that like, I know because I'm always like, I
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: always leave a tip. I'm always like, so nice. Yeah.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: And I've never like thrown up in a car. I
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: understand if you puke in a car or something, I've
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: never done that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: And I always feel like I, I go above and beyond,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: especially if I'm with someone to give an incredible juicy
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: scoop story. We are talking name dropping Hollywood stories. I'm
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: like this guy, I'm like, this guy wants to send
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: this to Des Moines. No problem. Like, I just want
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: this to be fun for this person. Right. And I
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: almost like amp it up with like how good the
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: info is. And so it really.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I want to be your Uber driver. That sounds fun.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: It really is. So this is kind of an interesting story.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: The author of the book that was the inspiration for
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Mean Girls, the movie, now a play. Isn't it a
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: play too? Yeah. So her name is Rosalind Wiseman and
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: she is out. slamming Tina Fey and Paramount. She's planning
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: to take legal action against Paramount Studios for allegedly what
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: she believes they are withholding revenue. So the book was
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Queen Bees and Wannabes, and she sold the movie rights,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: the film rights, for $ 400, 000. But she's pissed because she's
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: not gotten one ounce of compensation beyond the $ 400, 000 and
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: thinks it's unfair, considering how successful the movie was And
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: how it has changed society. And she's also mad that
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Tina Fey hasn't showed her any support, being that she's
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: such a supporter of women. And she also said she
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: was supposed to receive net costs once the movie hit
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the theaters. But apparently the studio told her the film
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: gained extra costs. So there was no net costs extra.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: So they didn't have any ability to pay her anymore.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: So now she's coming out now and she's pissed.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: I mean... I get being pissed that you sold it
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: for 400,000 and then it went way probably has, but
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: it's kind of, I mean, it's the deal was made, right?
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Like that's what sucks about the whole situation. It's like
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: you want, you, you know, hopefully your agent puts in like,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: if it becomes this, then this, if this happens, if
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: it becomes a Broadway play, if it.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Makes, um, you know, $ 10 million in residuals. You get
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: a version of the residuals or if it goes, or
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: also in 2004, they didn't know how to also say,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: and when it's streaming on Netflix, you know, because that
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: didn't exist. So probably the deal happening as an author,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: there's when you write a book and you've written to,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: and I've written to, you know, you always think, oh gosh,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: you know, won't it be great if someone makes this
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a movie?
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: So when you get that offer to buy the movie
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: rights or whatever. And $ 400, 000, especially almost 20 years ago,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: she was probably totally thrilled and didn't think that it
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: would be like such a classic. Yeah. And and they
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: always are going to say there's more costs and it's
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: impossible to find out really the truth. You need a
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: forensic accountant back in 2004 to really figure out if
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: they were telling the truth or not.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, it sucks. Like I totally get where she's
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: coming from. Cause I even remember when I sold my
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: book to be a TV show, there was things that
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: it of, okay, and if it gets made, then this
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: per episode, or if a story comes directly from the book,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: like there's little things, but I mean, it didn't get made,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: so I don't have anyone to be mad at except
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: for- But you.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Know what's great about a book, which is why I
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: tell people when someone says, I want to write a
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: movie or I want to write a series, I always say,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: you know, try to write a book first because a
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: book is like a business card. It's a calling card.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: And like your book or whatever, it could be made
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: into a TV show 10 years from now. And when
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: that deal happens, then you can do a whole nother
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: deal that would involve streaming or it's cut into little
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: things or whatever, you know, but like whatever was made
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: in 2004 is, is a completely different world as it
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: is today. And I guess, again, you don't know the success.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: TV shows, you know, from the seventies that, you know,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: are still on. Right.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think they're better.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Thing or like streaming service too. It's crazy. Like you said,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: because that, Like Netflix, until recently, they didn't pay residuals
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: And so think about, I don't know, Orange is the
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: New Black and how many, how like it went international.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, I have no idea what their deal was
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: or what they got paid, but usually you would end
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: up getting residuals from how often it was played.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: If that was on ABC and it was repeating as
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: much as like, you know, the Cosby show, that would
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: be a different situation. Yeah. You know, then. I mean,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: there was no, there was no contract in. the actors
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: of the Cosby show. And if dad Cosby gets, you know,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: convicted of rape and goes to prison, then the show
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: won't be airing anymore. They didn't have that in their
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: contract either. No, nobody knows.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Well, and also, I mean, I get what she's saying
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: about Tina Fey being, but what is, I don't know
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: what Tina Fey is supposed to do. She can't go,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: you know, just go send her. I don't know.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Like, what do you, there's nothing for Tina Fey to do.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And then somebody wrote like, I want to say someone
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: DM me or sent it to me and was like,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I worked on this movie and she, and the writer
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: was a pain in the ass, allegedly.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: But who knows? Right. You know, if this person's not
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: a movie maker and they're like, this is so overwhelming
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: to see these big stars and Lindsay Lohan is playing,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: you know, the lead character and all that kind of stuff. So.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing that I don't understand. I mean, there's,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I totally understand her being bitter about it.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Making other people more money than her, you know.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: And especially if, 20 years ago, you know, she may
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: have gone on to write other things, but this is
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: the pinnacle of her career. This is the thing that
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: became really popular. She might, and I don't know, might
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: have had three other books that just did okay. But
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: sometimes you have that one hit and it's so big
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: and you're like, I should be able to be living
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: off this for the rest of my life, but I'm not.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Right. But I don't know that if you, yeah. And
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: because you can't really go back and change what you
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: made as a contract, right? So then you have to.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Either- But I mean, what's really interesting is like Reese
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Witherspoon and especially Reese Witherspoon, she went and bought the
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: rights to all these books. And that's her production company.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure those people are getting compensated fine. But still,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: who's to say that one of those books is not
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: going to be Breakfast at Tiffany's or Mean Girls? We
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: don't know. And then, you know, but what was smart
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: is that that's how she built this big company that
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I think sold for like a billion dollars because there's
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: so much content. And I remember when, you know, that's
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: why there's like original screenplay and there's adaptations for a
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: screenplay from a book or whatever. Yeah. It's a whole
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: different category for writing. And when it was completely your
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: idea from scratch versus like you got it from an
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: article or you got it from a book.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I wonder what, um, I was thinking about this the
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: other day because I wonder what it's like for the
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: woman that wrote You, right? Because that's based off of
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: her first book that I think was called You, Caroline.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: The series, which is on Netflix. Yeah.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Caroline Kepnes, I want to say is her name. I
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: might totally have that wrong. I remember reading the book,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: but now it's gone on to however many seasons and
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: they're way past what she wrote, but they're still using
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: the same characters. And I know she's still accredited as
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: like based on her, but I just wonder, does it go, okay,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: do they now say, If it goes into season two,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: you're still getting... If it goes into... You know, who knows?
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're probably doing that more now than they were, obviously,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: when this woman.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, speaking of you, I ran... I was at
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Lala Kent's daughter's party, Ocean's party. And Amber, who was
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: the lead in the first series, the first season of You,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the first girl he gets obsessed with. Yeah.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: And.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Lala's like, do you know Amber? And I go, no,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: we've never met, but I loved you in you. And
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I go, to be honest, I'm not into the season.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Have you, are you watching it? Season four? Yeah.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: You do like it. Should I give it another chance?
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Because when I started to watch it now they're in
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: England and it's like all these other people might be murderers.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I felt like it was so different
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: than the first, Two or three seasons. Like, it feels
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: like a whole different thing. It is different, but I
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: kind of like that about it, I think. I just
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: like that it sort of branched out because I feel
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: like it probably would have gotten maybe too repetitive otherwise.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: So I was, I mean, I don't know. I mean,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: that's what I was kind of saying about her deviating
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: so far probably from, I mean, I don't know if
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: she's written a book that they're now basing these off
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: of or what. But yeah, I do like it. I
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: think it's good.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Or it's like, you know, it's also like The Conners.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: It was called Roseanne. It was based on Roseanne's life,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Roseanne's character as a comedian, her whole thing. The show
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: goes forever. It comes back as Roseanne. And then when
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: she got canceled for her tweets and got kicked off,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: they're like, we're just going to call it The Conners now.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: But it's all those characters. The girls playing her daughters
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: were based on the way she talked about her daughters
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: on stage.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: That's true. So I wonder if she still, but she
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: must still have some kind of name on that.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: As far as.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know the legal thing, but there was, I
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: remember reading that there is some kind of interesting gray
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: area in that, that they, that they must've had something
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: in there that they could get rid of her. And
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: it's not like the show has to stop. Right. And
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I think they just like, never, I don't, I don't
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: watch it now. So I don't know if they like,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: just never talk about her or like, Her character or
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: ever say her name or what?
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know either, but it'd be weird to have
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: something you created, then you get knocked out of it.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Giselle is riding horses with this hot guy. There's some
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: dating rumors. Okay, the reason she felt she had to
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: do this is because Daily Mail got photos of her
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: on a horse ride, which... It looks, in the photo,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: it looks like he's on a very small horse.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: It does look like he's got the short horse.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: The short horse is like a pony ride where it's
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: got a string where you go around and around for
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: a kid's party. And he doesn't look very happy, but whatever.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: He's on a horse. And she looks like she's more
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: active in this still shot. She knows how to ride
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: a horse for many reasons. But anyway. So he is
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: a hotel magnate. He's a billionaire. He looks pretty young.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: He looks pretty cute.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: And.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: And he was the ex-husband of Elle MacPherson, who is
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: a supermodel. Right. So he went from one supermodel to another,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: and she went from Tom Brady, who I don't think
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: he's a billionaire, but he has a lot of money,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: to him. Which is what I always say, where I
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: feel like kind of these elite people will date each
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: other's exes. They kind of want the ex-billionaire, ex-supermodel.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because what are you going to do if you're Giselle?
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Date the guy at the deli? You know what I mean? Like,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: it's going to.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, you could, but it's going to be... Well,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: she was.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Originally, people thought she was dating the karate guy. Right.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Who were her kids' karate instructor. Oh, right. But I
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: don't think so. I think she just brought the karate
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: instructor because she can and she wanted the kids to, like,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: have something to do.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, I actually would suggest her just dates, like,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: the guy from the deli. I don't know who this
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: person is that I keep making up, the guy from
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: the deli. But it's like, Because she has enough money
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: that it's like you want someone at your level, but
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: she has enough money. She can be like, I don't
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: need you at my level. I can pay for everything.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Let's just hang out. Like you don't necessarily have to
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: get it messy with another billionaire and a MacPherson ex.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: And then you got to run into each other at
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: the runway shows or whatever it is models do.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: But it's so much better if your ex is Tom
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Brady and you're like, oh, here's my billionaire ex. That
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: also dated, like, a hot, gorgeous woman or was married
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: to a hot, gorgeous woman. Right. Like, let me shove
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: it in your face as we go on this horseback
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: riding trip.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: I mean. He's not.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: We haven't seen him dating anyone.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: No, not yet.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: He did the thirst trap photo that was, like, pretty disturbing.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: He did. He did do it. And I guess it
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: was some kind of bet, but yeah.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was a bet now? Oh, you have some
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: inside football scoop for me?
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: No, I just read it somewhere because I was like,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I've never seen him do anything like this. It's so weird.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: And then I saw that he tagged maybe a company
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: that he either owns, I forget what it is, but
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: I remember going to that page and then kind of
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: being like, okay, you know, I did it like I
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: said I would. Some kind of bet that he lost.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: We all lost a bet that day, I feel like,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: we had to see that. I mean, obviously the man,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: handsome man, nice body, but it was just a, seems
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: so out of character for him.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Right. And it's what I always say. It's just like, oh,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: you too. You have to stoop to our level. Like
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: leave it for the, leave it for the thirsty. Yeah.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Like we don't, you don't need to. Yeah. we know
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: it's not like he had to show his new, like
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: worked out body. Like, whoa, Tom Brady must've joined 24
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: hour fitness. Like we know you have a good body. Yeah.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Like play football.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You've been like the quarterback. Oh, poor, poor JLo
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: and Ben. They cannot find a $ 64 million house to
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: save their life. Boy, that's rough. They had to drop
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: out of escrow once again. This is the third home.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: My God. Just a young couple.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Trying to buy a house in California. Trying to get
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: their first home together.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Got any mortgage brokers, juicy scoopers that can help this
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: couple out? They have fallen out of escrow three times.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: This is the third one in the last year. So
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: now- They couldn't find, first they had a really gorgeous, modern,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: brand new kind of farmhouse, modern house in Palisades. That
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: was gone. Now there's this one is gone. Now they're
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: looking at Homely Hills, which is like a very fancy
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: part of LA.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's in California. Okay, it is California.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Isn't it kind of like Hancock Park area?
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, I would have done the Palisades.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I would have stuck with the Palisades. But you know what?
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: They didn't ask me.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: That's right. They didn't. And you do have, you know,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: you have real estate history.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: I do. And he did recently respond about that Grammy
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: moment where they were caught on camera where she was like, stop.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: And he said what happened was he said he thought
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: it would like be fun. And Trevor Noah was approaching.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: So he was like, oh, God, they're framing us in
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: the shot. And but he didn't really know they were rolling.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: So he leaned in and was like, as soon as
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: they start rolling, I'm going to slide away from you.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: And leave you sitting here next to Trevor and I
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: can like go to the bathroom and I think have
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: a cigarette.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: And then she goes, you better fucking not leave. And
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: that's what we saw.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, I believe that.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I remember thinking, you know, he says he's gone to
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: events in the past and been drunk and bored and pissed,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: but this was not the case. So he's like, yes,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I can see why people thought that because I've been
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: a grumpy, drunk, you know. He was like, I was
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: just trying to do a funny thing. He just was like, oh,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: this is perfect. Like, he's going to come in and
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: then I'm going to, like, he's going to come in.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I see they're framing us for something. He's going to
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: probably give, like, a one-on-one interview with you. So let
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: me leave so you can do that because I don't care. Right.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: And she's like, no, don't leave my side.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. But what I remember seeing and thinking.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: It didn't look like she was that. It looked more like, no, no, no,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: you don't do that.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: It's like. Or like I thought he was saying something
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: like obnoxious. The people doing memes that he like farted
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: or was like, I'm going to fart. And she was like,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: you know, just like you would with your husband. So
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that he addressed it. Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Well, he probably got sick of reading about how grumpy
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: he seems. He's probably like, all right, guys, you know,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: just leave me alone. Let me let me be grumpy.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: What he should have said is like, I was grumpy
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: because the next day we had to go get into
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: a realtor's car again.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: And fall out of $ 64 million escrow.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: And just find a house that, you know, had what
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: we needed.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Now, why do they drop out of escrow? Can you
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: tell me how that works?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: They did not explain, but normally, you know, you put
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: down your money and you have a contingency period where
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: you can, you know, make sure that the house is okay.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: And then, and if you're getting a loan, whatever the hell.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: But there isn't a lot of window. And if you
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: wait too long, then you lose your deposit. And, you know,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: if it's in a competitive market, when you watch like real,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: you know, million dollar listing and stuff, it's always like
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: no contingencies, all cash, close in seven days. Those people
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: can't drop out. But in a $ 64 million house situation,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: which I'm sure there's not a lot of buyers, there
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: must have been a little bit of a leeway in
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: which then they changed their mind for whatever reason.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: So that's them dropping out. It's not like their credit
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: check didn't go through.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like, wow, Jen and Ben, we found out
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: that you don't have an 800. And what is this
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Macy's bill? There's a $ 35. I didn't even know I
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: had a Macy's card. Motherfucker, Jen. Yeah. No, I don't
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: think that was the case. So good luck to them.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: This is sad. This guy is a model. And he
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: fell out of his Skyrise building.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Where? But they think it was because she was taking
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: a selfie. And I think so, too.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say it looks like it's
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: in Florida.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Based on his body and everything. So his agent says
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: he thinks it was accidental because they were texting just
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: 24 hours before and he sounded happy. And they were
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: joking about an upcoming audition. And he was in his
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: own apartment tower in Miami. He was only 35. They
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: had scheduled to chat and check up on Friday. And
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: he was so proud of him for his move to Miami.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Couldn't wait to tell her all about it. And then
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: his brother posted on Facebook that this was a suicide
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: due to his battle with mental illness. So we don't know.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: And they're working on it. Whether he took his own
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: life or not.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: So crazy. He fell out a window, so obviously, initially,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: they thought he jumped, and the agent is saying... Well,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest. Which one? Do you want your agent
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: stepping in and saying, no, I think he was taking
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: a selfie?
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know which one's worse.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I know. I mean, I'm not trying to... It's awful, but, like,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: do you... No, it's... Do you want your legacy to be...
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, never mind. I should say, it's all terrible,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: but it just seems, like, Well, listen.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: The amount of video and awful things out there of people, kids,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: trying to just take TikTok's photos on like risky things.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, it does freak me out.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: When I went to the Grand Canyon many, many years ago,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: I bought a book on like Grand Canyon deaths. And
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: the amount of people that like went an extra step
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: like over the thing. To take a photo or how
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: people's wives accidentally wanted to walk around the edge at night. Yeah.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Because once you go off of there, there's no, no
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: one's ever going to find you to get your body.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Like there's no way to even get it. So, yeah,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, but people do that. They want that perfect shot.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: They want that.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I see it. You see it too often. I mean,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: it's kind of. You can be entertained when it's like
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: influencers in the wild and it's just someone doing something
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: really stupid. We were in Mexico and we saw these girls.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: They kept going on. It was like a washed out,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: half of a washed out like boardwalk thing, right? So
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: it had caution tape around it, but it's like this
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: really pretty view right in the middle of the water.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: So everyone wants to get on there to take a photo.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: But it's clearly saying don't do it. It's half broken.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: You're going to fall, whatever. It's caution tape, whatever. This
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: poor guy working at this hotel all day had to
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: keep going and telling people to get off of there
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: because they just wanted a fucking Instagram shot.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: And then we saw it happen. This one guy was
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: just like just the guy working the beach. He was
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: just like, just forget it. I'm just going to let
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: these assholes do what they want because they're clearly it
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: was like a mom and her and her daughter. I mean,
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: it was like, I don't know, probably like 60 years
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: old or something. And like her 20 something year old daughter.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: And they kept defying him. He'd walk away, and then
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: they'd run up and try to get over the Kasha tapes. Well,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: and then they get up there. What happens? They go
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: flying into the ocean. It collapsed underneath. I mean, it
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: was shallow, and they didn't get hurt. But, I mean,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: I laughed my ass off.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Because he's told you 16 times.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: And then you were like, gone. I'm going to go
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: over it. Just real quick. I mean, much quicker than them.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: I did try to get photos of it for you.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: influencers in the wild, but I was too fast. I
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: was too slow.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: You're too. Speaking of influencers, Blac Chyna has removed some
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: of the filler from her face. Everyone thinks she looks great.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: And she already removed her butt filler.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: How do you get that removed? She looks younger, doesn't she? Yeah.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Is that from removing the filler, you think? I didn't
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: even know you could remove filler, to be honest.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, really? No, I guess you can. I don't know
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: how they can find it, but whatever they do. Then
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: this guy got buckle fat removed. You know what buckle
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: fat is?
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: No.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: That's when people want to have cheekbones. They just take
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: this part out.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: But then the problem is, if you do that as
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: like a young, you know, 25-year-old, you might look real
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: chic and model-y, but then at 35, you're going to
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: want that buckle fat back. Right.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I think that's what people forget, like when they try
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: things too young. As I'm all, do whatever you want.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: I'm all for it.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: But- But just remember, you're probably going to want to
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: tweak stuff when you're older, not so much when you're younger.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: So, wait, what is this cat's name? Liam Payne, and
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: he's from One Direction.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Did you say, what is this cat's name?
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's from One Direction. And now, I guess they
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: think the bottom of his face has changed. Whatever he's done,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: it looks good.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, I like it. I think
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: it looks good. I think it looks good. That's a
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: very good chiseling.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Some people need to get their buccal fat removed.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever it is. is, it's a nice chiseling situation.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Amy Robach finalized her divorce with Andrew Hsu. It only
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: took a few months. And she and... TJ Holmes.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Forbidden lover.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: They did run the marathon. You remember that? And part
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: of the reason that is alleged like that they broke up,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: that she and Andrew Hsu broke up and that she
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: fell in love with TJ Holmes is that Andrew Hsu
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: was not as supportive of her running endeavors. And TJ
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: also ran. So they run together and they did the
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: marathon together. Now, the other part of this divorce is.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. And supposedly they're getting a show and doing
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: a deal together, whatever. They're in love. They got kicked
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: off Good Morning America. But, you know, they did.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: They got fired.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Right. I know they they settled out and they were
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: like she did like the jump in his arm. So
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: whatever money they got, they were happy with. And I
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: guess she got more than he because I think she
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: was on longer and because she'd only had one affair
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: and he had multiples.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: So they've just bought them out because they were like,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: this is too much for us.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: It was a closed-door mediation.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: To me, I'm like, wouldn't you just keep them on,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: people tuning in every day to see how they're doing
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: kind of thing? Or maybe they want it out. Who knows?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: I just think that it was such a mess morally
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: when they found out that he'd had two other affairs
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: with girls that had worked there prior to her, one
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: being a married producer and one being a 23-year-old intern
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, didn't know that.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Then it was like, ugh. We just need to get
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: these people gone.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Got it. Yeah.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: But anyway, one of the things about their now breakup,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: she and Andrew Shue, now they have, they don't have any,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: can you see if they have kids together? I believe
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: he brought two boys and she brought two girls into
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: the marriage. Right. And now they're divorced. But one thing
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: I know for sure they have is a dog. Oh.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: And they are going to share custody of the dog.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: And we were talking about this because in the breakup
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: of the Vanderpump kids, they don't have, okay, they don't
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: have any biological kids together and the kids are kind
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: of older. So that's a clean break.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: But the dog, they're supposedly going to share Castillo. And
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Annie and I were talking about how the Vanderpump breakup,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: there's been couples that have broken up and gotten divorced.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: And there's been issues of, can I see the dog?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Or we are going to set a schedule for the dog.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: And I just want, I'm sure this is more of
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: an LA thing than anywhere else because people are insane
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: about their dog. But why would you want to do this?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Why you got to let the baby go to somebody else?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Like you be the bigger person and let your, whoever
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: was initially, whoever the main person is. Now you have
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: a cat. Two. Okay.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Why so aggressive? We've got two cats.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: If something was to happen to you and John. OK,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: God forbid. Did you have to so that you would
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: each take your favorite or are you going to be
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: full blown cat mom or is he going to full
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: blown cat dad and you're going to move on clean
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: slate and never visit those cats again?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, this one, this is this is why I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: can see why this is a problem for them, because
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I would normally have thought that it
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: would just say I would just keep the cats and
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't care. But now he's like obsessed with the cats.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I mean, if I cheated, I
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: guess maybe I'd let him take one cat because I'd
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: feel guilty. And then I'd take the newer one because
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: she's not as lovey-dovey. And he's obsessed with Ralphie. So
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: maybe if he cheated, I'm taking both cats.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let him be alone.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let him just be alone and sad. And if
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: we just get a divorce just because, then I guess...
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: Each take one. Just each take one. It just seems
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: like a lot of work to have to like stay
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: in touch with that person. If you don't have children
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: and then you have to then like see them every
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: day and be like, hey, I want to take, you know,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Pippi for a walk.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: And then imagine like your new partner being like, really, dude,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: like you really have to go meet Sarah at the vet. Like,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: come on, like enough. Like, I just think like a
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: divorce is like so bad or a breakup is so
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: bad that like, I do kind of think of, remember
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: that story from the Bible where this woman, her baby
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: was stolen by this other woman and she kept saying,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: it's my baby. And the other lady goes, it's my baby.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: And so, um, the whatever, the elder in the town
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: holds up the baby and he goes, okay, well I'll
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: cut it in half. Then you can each have part
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: of it. And then the woman who jumps up and says, then,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: then forget it. Let her have it. And he goes,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: now that's the real mother. So the more selfless person.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: So I do feel even with these pets, like just
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: be as long as.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: I feel like nobody would have let them cut the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: baby in half. I do feel like just because the
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: one woman spoke up first doesn't mean the other woman
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: wasn't going to say the same thing.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We'll never know.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: But no, but yeah, you got it.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: You got it. I, yeah, I think it's just a lot.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: And I just think, Like, you know, in my relationship,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Raven is just completely weirdly obsessed. I think it's weird,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: but I mean, I'm not a dog.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: They have lots of dogs have like a primary human.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: And if, if he's not around, she's cool. She'll go
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: for a walk. If she sees me in a pair
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: of tennis shoes, like she gets excited for that. But
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: if he's around, she has to follow him. She has
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: to wait outside the door when he takes the shower.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: She has to, you know? Okay.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: So she's, so if, so of course he.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Can have her. Yeah. I would never, you know, even
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: if he cheated, I would never, cause that's how selfless
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: I am about Raven. I would not torture Raven just
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: because if Peter cheated, I wouldn't go, I'm keeping the
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: dog to torture Peter because I would also be torturing Raven.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: And yourself, because you would be like, this dog doesn't
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: even really like me. And I know that she misses Peter. Yeah.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Why would I do that? That's just like cruel. So
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: I think, As much as it is, you have to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: be the bigger person. There's one person that either is
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: more into the dog or the dog is more into
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: them or they have a better situation for raising it.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Like maybe one has the house and one goes off
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: to an apartment. Yeah. Like let the person with the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: house and the yard keep the dog.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: It's like I do get it because it would be
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: so hard for me to give up one of my animals.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: But I just think at the end of the day,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: it becomes more stressful.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: For you guys to have to see each other. Like
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: there's no way that Andrew's shoe is like excited to
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: have to see her all the time. Cause he probably
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: hates her because she cheated on him publicly and right.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: And humiliated.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: And she's like, um, can you bring the dog with
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: some flowers at the finish line of the New York marathon?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: When TJ and I cross, can you imagine if he
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: did do that? I like that scene from, um, that
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: scene from flash dance at the end of the movie,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: when she tries out to audition for the ballet. And
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: then she comes out, and the guy, who, by the way,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: was like 38, and she was only 18 in the
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: movie Flashdance. Remember, she was a welder dancer. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: And she comes running out, and he's there, and the
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: dog's got a bow around his neck and flowers. Oh, right.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: And it was her dog.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Well. He could have done that.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: I sure could have.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: This is really juicy. I've talked a lot about this
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Teen Vogue article. about influencer parents and the kids who
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: had their childhood made into content. So there is this
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: girl who's remaining anonymous who does this interview where her
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: parents started to do a YouTube when she was very young.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: And so now she's almost 18. And she says, once
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I turned 18, I am cutting off all ties with
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: my parents. This has been awful. Every single thing in
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: my life has been documented. And put out there when
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't want it. And when we became successful as
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: a YouTuber family, both the parents quit their jobs and
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: bought a nicer house. And so when there's been times
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: where she said, please, I don't want to do the videos.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be exposed. At one time, this
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: is like before TikTok and stuff, somebody... you know, saw
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: her riding her bike and that, that man knew that
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: she was the kid from YouTube and like, it was
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: scary and everything. And then the parents would say, well,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: if you do that, then we are, you're going to
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: have to leave your school and your siblings won't get
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: to do these activities. And we're going to have to
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: sell this house and mom and I are going to
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: have to go back and do, get jobs. So, you know,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: you don't have a choice. Like this is our, this
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: is our life now.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: All based off of you.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Like, we've created this thing without your consent.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Because it's like, I think it's really different than a
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: child actor. Because a child actor, even if they got
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: pushed into it by the mom or dad, they're still
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: playing a role. They're not being themselves in their own home.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: They still can leave the Disney set and go home
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: and be their own name and do their own thing.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: And then there's the Coogan laws, which protect them with money. They,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: and how many hours they can work and all of that.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: But this is nothing. So there's different rules now, I
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: think in a few different States that are not rules,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: but initiatives laws that are coming out where people are
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: saying like, these kids have to have, there has to
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: be some laws in place about how much they, the
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: consent and the money and the income from like this stuff.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: Okay. So actually this makes me think of something. So
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: do you know who Jamie Otis is?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: Mm-mm.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm a Married at First Sight expert, as you know.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, yes, you are.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: As I have a podcast on it. And she... So she's, like,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: the OG, like, when it... I think from the first season.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: So she was kind of famous for... Not famous, but
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: in Married at First Sight world for being... Like when
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: her husband walked down the aisle, she was like horrified.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: She hated him. She wasn't attracted to him. Because it's
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: love at first sight. So she didn't like what the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: sight was. But then it turned out that she fell
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: in love with him. And they're still together all these
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: years later. And they have kids. So she's very much
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: like a very big oversharer, in my opinion, on Instagram.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: But whatever. It's not my business what she wants to post.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: But I saw this yesterday. So because one time she
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: had posted this thing about her husband, Doug. And she
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: was like, she's one of those people that her every
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: post is like, paragraph after paragraph, right? So she had
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: written this thing one time that I thought, not my business.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Maybe her husband said it's fine, but she was like,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: you know, nobody knows this. But when we first got together,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Doug had all this debt and we weren't able to
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: buy a house and my life was ruined, like kind
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: of like humiliating him in my opinion.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: But whatever. And, but then, so she posts her kids
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: a lot. And yesterday or two to a couple of
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: days ago, the kids, Uh, they're, I mean, small. One
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: of them's like not potty trained. Okay. Like three maybe
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: or something. She said, I think she said there were
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: potty training issues. I don't know. Again, she, whatever.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Now that kid's going to grow up and everyone's going
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: to know that you, you, you know, you were in
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: a diaper at three and a half.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: And wait till you hear. So then they're at like
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: a hot tub at an apartment complex that look like,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: and she's, she basically posted her, her kid shit in
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: the hot tub. And she wanted to get him out
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: of there fast so he wasn't embarrassed. And then she
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: posts him crying. She posts caution tape. She posts like
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: a shot of his poopy diaper. Like she posted. And
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: I actually, I've never commented on something like this. And
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: I was like, you don't want him to be embarrassed.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: You have to like, the internet's forever. He's not a
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: kid forever. When he grows up in a few years,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: he's going to be like, do you have to really?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: And then other people are like, oh, it's just a kid.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: What kids poop? And Who cares? But it's like, he
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: didn't get to decide that you post a video of
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: him bawling red face, caution tape up. Like, I think
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: that's a little, in my opinion, it was, I don't
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: think that's appropriate, but it's also not my business what
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: she wants to post. I get that. But I just,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, I feel like.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting because it's like, like a
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: long time ago, my mom loved this writer named Irma Bomback.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: And she was this mom from the, From the East
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Coast and she had five kids and she would write
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: the funniest stories about her life and her teenagers. And like,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: I remember reading this funny thing that she got like
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: a pornographic call and she was so excited just to
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: talk to someone other than her kids. And it was
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: like these really funny comedic essays, you know? And I
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my God, I remember that book. So
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: when I was writing my books and stuff about being
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: a mom, I was like, you know, this was kind
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: of the pioneer of this. And then, of course, we
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: talk about our lives on stage and you could tell
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: a story like about it on stage. And I do
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: think that's really different than actually video documenting the subject
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: at that age. Yeah.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: I just think like it is.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: It's.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Because it's like also as a standup or a writer,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: we're taking creative control. It doesn't mean this happened exactly
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: this way. Or my kid said this exact same words
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: because we're writers and performers.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: And people know that. And you're, and, and I, I
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: do think there's a difference, but they're, Yeah. When it's
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: like to actually video like his butt and poop and like,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: you know, him crying, like I just felt bad for
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: the cat. I was like, that doesn't again, she's his mom.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: It's up to her. It's not.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: But I just I know. But I mean, I guess
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: it's up to her. But then it's also up. It's
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: also up to us as a society to say, you know, no,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: this isn't OK. And maybe as a parent, you haven't
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: really thought it all the way through because we everybody's
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: doing it and it's become your income. And you're reliant
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: on things happening that you think, oh, won't this be relatable?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: But in the way of you sharing it, I mean,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: had she gone in her car and been like, I
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: don't know why I'm going to say it with a
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Southern accent, but I'm just going to say it like this.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: And she was like, girl, we just left the Wolf Lodge.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: If that wasn't a shit show, let me tell you why. Yeah.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: And just said it. I think that would be totally different.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Than filming him in the aftermath.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: And even said, like, my child and didn't even say
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: his name or whatever. I think that would be completely
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: different than, like, the aftermath of this. And also, like,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: you know, sick people are following moms with young kids
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: just so that they can see young kids in the
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: wild and have access to their life in the home
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: and in the bed and as they're getting a diaper
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: changed and all that kind of stuff. And it's just, like,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: really weird.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: And it's also, like, I mean, you know, when something happens,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, it's going to be great content with Peter, whatever, right?
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: And.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: but I think a lot of people on this particular
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: thing were like, well, you're saying you don't want him
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: to be embarrassed. You're saying you remain calm. You're saying
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: how humiliating it was. And then, but you, but immediately
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: you were filming it. Like she's filming it while he, like,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: like it obviously just happened. It's not as if, like
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: you said later, she talks about it. So it's just
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: kind of like, where's the line for. Right. Deciding what,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: Well, in, in this article, a couple very popular influencer
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: moms have, change their ways. And it's like, you know what?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to feature my kids anymore. If I'm
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: doing something with them, they're going to be off camera
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: or I can still talk about my life, but they're
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: not going to be making the cake with me or whatever.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: You know? But there's this guy that somehow started popping
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: up in my like reels and for you page. And
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: I recognized him because he was this SC football player
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: who then became like a professional player and he's good looking.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: And he lives in Manhattan beach and, And all of
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: a sudden, someone sent it to me because he was
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: doing that, like, thing that that girl Tinks used to do.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: She started it during the, like, Palo Alto mom starter kit,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: you know, and talks. You wear this kind of shoe.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Your kid goes to this school. So he kind of
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: copied that, and he was doing it about a Manhattan
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Beach dad. This is a car you drive. This is
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: a whatever. And because he's sort of famous, and now
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: he's a Manhattan Beach dad, it kind of went wild.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: So somehow he pops up again, and I'm like, again,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: who is this? Like, why is he? Why? And it's
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: so weird when all of a sudden somebody, if you've
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: noticed this, that like had a career before or whatever,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: and they're like clearly over 40. And you're like, what
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: assistant did you hire that was like, I'm going to
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: make you a social media star. They're doing trends. They're
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: doing vows. And you're like, what is going on? They're dancing.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: You're like, what is this? This doesn't even go with
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: like what your business is.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Or what? And I'm like, so you're just trying to
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: like make, get a million followers and be this funny person. Yeah.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: So he does this video and he's like, you know,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: wife's gone for three hours and this is what I'm
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: dealing with. And there's like a three-year-old on a couch
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: having a full meltdown crying, got the camera on him,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: then goes around and he goes, and then I've got
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: this one over here who's like in the kitchen, who's
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: like taking glad bags out and whatever playing. And he's like,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: how are you doing, buddy? Having fun. And I immediately thought,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: oh my God, this guy just is like doing anything
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: to like become a new star. I don't know if
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: he's like run out of money. I don't know what
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: is going on with this, but like, and then the comments,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: We're like, you know, why are you, why don't you
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: put the phone down and consult your three-year-old? He is
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: probably needs a nap and you need to like get
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: him in a place where he can go to sleep.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: And like, you just said your wife is gone and
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: you're watching him. And the way you're watching them is
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: filming them and posting while one kid is having a
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: breakdown and then, and then rewarding the other one who's
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: not having a breakdown, which is already going to start
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: weirdness between your kids. And anyway, I went back and
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: he did remove the video.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, he did.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: I think sometimes I try not to comment on stuff
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: like that because I'm like, it's not, again, my business
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: or my place to tell someone. But sometimes I think
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: if you do comment, someone might actually go, oh, I didn't,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: you know, like a little bit of a wake up call. Like, okay, that's,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: that was too far.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Or, you know, I wasn't, you know, I thought it
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: was going to be funny, but I see where people
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: thought that it was kind of not the right thing to,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: you know, like every once in a while. without being
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: an asshole, you can kind of make a suggestion maybe.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Because I mean, think about, think about it. If when
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: you just are having like your worst day or breakdown or,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: you know, you're crying and you're just, you're in a
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: vulnerable moment and the person you feel most vulnerable with
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: is your husband, John. And as you're crying and everything,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: he's like, what? You don't like the way your jeans fit.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Sarah feels fat today. Sarah, what's going on?
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: There'll be a wellness check at our house after that
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: from the local police department.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: But that is when your kid is crying in its
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: home and having a meltdown. They're having that meltdown at
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: their home and hopefully not school because that's where they
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: feel the most comfortable. Right. And it's like, why are
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: you crying, buddy?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: You know, I just think people like, that's why I've
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: been talking a lot about this because I just think
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: There's really good parents out there that have found themselves
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: in this position to be doing this. And there's a
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: way that maybe you could still be an influencer and
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: make money online and not like completely exploit your kid. Yeah.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: I agree with that.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: There's a balance. I'm not saying you have to take
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: them away completely. Throw away your iPhone. Yeah.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: There's a balance. Yeah.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: There is this new thing coming out that there's such,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: it's a, You wear this ring that's like somehow like
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: a little like I watch, but it's a ring. And
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: so when you're out in the wild in public. You will.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: get a signal that there is a single person within
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: you know whatever some yards of you right did i
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: basically explain that right yeah um because you know they're
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: saying people need to and i thought it was a
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: good uh topic and so did annie because i'm like
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: You know, more and more people like don't leave their
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: homes and need to go out. Everyone complains about the
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: dating apps. And so this would be a way that
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: you could go out. But but still, I guess not
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: make not hit on people who are married or you
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: really hit on people that like are down to be single.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: But then now I'm thinking about I think it could
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: be a nightmare.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to decide because at first I thought, well,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: then you just have someone, people, more people bothering you.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, like if you're wearing it,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: I guess it's because you're wanting that, right? Like you're
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: wanting to like make connections and meet strangers. Whereas like
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: that's my, you know, if I'm sitting at a bar,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, please don't anyone talk to me. I'm sitting
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: alone for a reason, right? Where as if you're wearing
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: this ring, it's because you're like, hey, I'm approachable.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: Right. And you could always leave the ring at home. Right.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: If you just are like, I'm not feeling it right now.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: But if you're like, you know what? I got all cute.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: I'm going out with my girlfriends and I want to
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: be approached by as many people as possible. And if
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: nobody knows what this ring is, it's fine. It just
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: looks like a little ring. Right.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: But if someone else.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, some people say wearing a wedding ring is
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: what gets you approached more. Yeah. Because they're like, are
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: you happily married or not married at all or whatever.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: There's some like... I'm like, I'm married. Or like, I'm
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: married and they go, happily?
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: I can't decide how I feel about this yet. I
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: feel like it seems that, I mean, I guess it's
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: one way to make it. I mean, it does suck
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: that people feel that they can't meet people at bars
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: and everyone's on their phones and apps. So if this
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: is a new way to sort of make it easier
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: to where you actually know who's single, but it's also,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it feels weird.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does kind of feel.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: Like a little ping ring, like, hey, everybody.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: Looking for some.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, you know what's also bad is that then you can't. Oh,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: you know what's really bad is that you can't lie.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Then say you're you're you're taken. So now you go
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: out to the bar.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: You're wearing.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: You're doing some cleavage. You're writing it. You have some drinks.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: You're ready to meet somebody. But then somebody comes up
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: to you and you're not into it. And then you're like, oh,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: I have a boyfriend or I live with someone. But
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for the cocktail. And you're a sweetheart.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: They're like, but you're wearing the ring.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: And so it's just me you don't like. Yeah, that's the.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, and then they get real angry.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to be the problem. Yeah.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: Some of the.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, take off your ring then, you bitch. Well,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: what about... Oh, can you imagine though if you're like,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: your husband goes out next and like he puts on
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: the wrong ring and he comes home and you're like,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: but you have the ping ring instead of... That's not
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: your wedding ring.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. What are you doing with that ping ring?
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: Are you buying it in your husband's car? Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: Because it's like, yeah, this seems like an episode of
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: the Black Mirror, Twilight Zone.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: It does, kind of, yeah.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: It feels like it could go awry. So it's called
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: the world's biggest social experiment. I don't think it's the
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: world's biggest, but I mean, I think love at first
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: sight might be the biggest. Yeah. Well, if you're looking
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: for somebody, sometimes you can find it at work, okay?
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: In the UK, they have a very cushy jail, and
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: 18 guards were fired over affairs. And these are women
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: guards- that are working at a male prison, 18 of
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: them were boning prisoners. And they all look pretty, like, attractive.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: And the prison looks like a nice, clean dorm that
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: you'd pay, like, you know, $ 70, 000 a year to, like,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: live in, you know, at some school in America. Like, look,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: look at the gym and stuff. Believe in yourself.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: Believe in yourself.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: It says believe in yourself in the gym.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: Is that, like, is it a prison for, you know.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Like the way, I'm sure it's not murder or rape. Yeah.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: Like I'm sure it's anything but. Yeah.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: Whatever kind of thing.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: So I mean, of course you're working out and then
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: you're boning a person. But like this looks, this jail
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: actually looks like Drake's dorm room at ASU.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, it looks nice. And that's what, it is
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: weird sometimes when I think about like dorms now. Because
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you're paying so much money and it literally
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: looks like what people would get in prison.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, and if you don't know the person before,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: you might as well be in a cell with someone.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: And look, these guys didn't even bother to make up
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: their beds, probably because they were boning the prison guard.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the guard probably comes in and does it afterwards.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: But look, this area looks like this is where you'd
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: go and meet someone to go over your accounting homework.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're kind of setting it up for like,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: for you to have an affair because they're making it
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: so cushy.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: They even have like the new black framed windows that
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: are so in, in every like farmhouse in Encino. Like,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: what is this? I don't know.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: I need to. Go to prison in the UK? It
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: looks like a nice getaway. That prison looks way better
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: than that hotel I tried to stay in. I just
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: want to talk about this dress.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: This is from Mugler, which is like a very expensive brand.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: It's like the high-end designer brand if you go to
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: like Nordstrom's or Neiman's. And Kim Kardashian shared this, and
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: it said, Dear Kim, sending you love, Team Mugler. And
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: I put it on my thing. It looks just like
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: a scrunchie, black, strapless, like Spanx type of a thing,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: but it's a dress.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: But for your boobies to pop out.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: But it's for your nips. There's a full nip out.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: Do you think this is an undergarment? No. Mugler wouldn't
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: make an undergarment.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: But why?
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: I think your nips are supposed to be out.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: I don't, um, I don't feel like you can, I mean,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: don't you get taken down off Instagram if you show nipples?
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: You can't just walk around with your nipples out in
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: a dress, can you? I mean, I'm all for it
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: if they want, but I feel like you're not supposed to.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: I want someone to explain this dress to me because
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: I wonder, like, is this an undergarment and they want,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: and you want to have hard nips? Like, under or
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: do you wear like another like sexy bra underneath?
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: But the reason I can't see it being an undergarment
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: is because it's like so what's the word ruched or whatever.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: So it wouldn't be smooth under something unless it just
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: smooths out when you put it on.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: We're going to need someone to explain.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan's having a baby.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: How? That's fun. She got married, right?
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: She got married. And then Paris Hilton's book is Paris
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Hilton's book out today. Paris has been doing a lot
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: of press. Of course, Paris has a baby. And her,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: she has a memoir coming out that I think will
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: be pretty juicy. Yeah. She seems to be, like, revealing
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: a lot. And she had, she had some, one of
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: the stories she told was she has, she had a teacher,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: she was going to school. I want to, I think
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: it was LA, but maybe it was not. Maybe it
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: was New York. So I want to read it. And
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: I want to try to figure out, like, because I
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: looked up her school and I think she went to
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: the school called Buckley. But anyway, she had an eighth
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: grade teacher. And he like tried to make out with
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: her and then was like hanging out with her outside
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: of her home and her parents like didn't know. And
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: so I'm like telling these stories and I'm like, someone's
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: going to be able to find out who this teacher is.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Put it together.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Figure out what year, if she was in eighth grade,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: what school it was and how many male teachers were there. Yeah.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: At that time. I mean, there's got to be either.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Even somebody, someone's got, there's someone's got to be out
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: there that's like, I was in Paris's eighth grade class.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: It's got to be Mr. Johnson.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: And then he's going to have to have an awkward
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: conversation with his wife or whoever he's married to or
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: dating or whatever.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: Or another, or the eighth grader that he's dating. Or, yeah.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: He's, it's going to be figured out. That's going to
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: be figured out.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: But I mean, obviously she's like 40 something. So this,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: you know, now this guy's like 20 years older.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: But yeah.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: Um.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: This is sad. A Compton man used Grindr to target
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: and rob more than 20 gay men.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's not funny, but it kind of is.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: Why is it funny? No, this is the problem. This
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: is what I worry about with that ring and stuff too.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: Like the things about.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to get robbed as long as
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: he's not murdering them. I don't want them to get
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: robbed either. And I think it's really sad because it's
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: like the ultimate con. Like they think they're meeting this guy,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: but he's just pretending to be gay. And they think
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: they're going to have like a hookup or maybe more.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: And then he was robbing them. He used her profile
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: with a different person's picture to arrange meetings. Oh, that's
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: even worse.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: So now you think you're getting a cuter gay guy
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: who is a non-robber and you're getting a less attractive,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: possibly straight guy who is going to rob you.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: It's hard to be a gay guy in LA. This
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: is from the LA Times, by the way.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: But all of the, like... This is the problem with
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: dating apps, too, is you never... I mean, you know,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: I always suggest people obviously meet in... very much public.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: Areas with a ring, with a ring. Yeah.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: And don't let someone come over or anything like that.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's the kind of stuff that worries me
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: about the things like the ring.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: This is one of the, this is one of these
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: photos from the LA times when I hope this is
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: not a stock photo. I hope this guy actually is
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: the guy that was doing it. Do you imagine if
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: it was just like a model and they just threw
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: in like a cute looking, put together black guy. Cause
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: I was, when fortune was on here, we're talking about like,
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  Speaker 1: this girl, there was an article about this girl said
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  Speaker 1: she slept with her cousin and it was a girl
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  Speaker 1: looking down like this. And then Fortune was like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: that's not the girl. Like, oh no, I just think
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  Speaker 1: that's like a stock photo for modeling. And then we
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: were like, wait, that's kind of awful that like, like
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  Speaker 1: you could be that same person. Like I got my third,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: you know, sexual transmitted disease in a year. And that
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: could be the same person like this, but it's like,
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  Speaker 1: You can kind of tell what the person looks like. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, in this case, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because this guy looks like stylish and like cute.
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  Speaker 2: And if that's the photo that he used, now you're
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  Speaker 2: putting out.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Maybe it's a photo that he used.
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  Speaker 2: But then you're putting out that person's photo and they're
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  Speaker 2: going to think it's the person that was scamming.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: So hopefully it's actually the person that was the scammer.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hope.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Anyway, he'd also use these guys, these unsuspecting gay guys.
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  Speaker 1: He'd use their phones to send Venmo payments to himself
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  Speaker 1: and would sometimes rob them at knife point. Well, the
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: knife point part is bad. But that, I talked about
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: why you never hand your phone to anyone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Even if someone's like, can I just borrow your phone
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  Speaker 1: really quick and just call my friend to pick me up?
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  Speaker 1: This girl said to me when I was at the DMV. Oh, really?
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  Speaker 2: And I heard about that and I was like, no! Oh,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: because they want to do it.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, they can take your phone and run
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  Speaker 1: off to a getaway car and then have some hacker
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: go through all your shit. But also, if you have Venmo,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Or Apple Pay too, right? They can probably do it.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: I only use Zelle. So, and Zelle, I have to
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: put in my code.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Even on my own phone. So they wouldn't be able
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: to do it. But I guess with Venmo and stuff,
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: you could immediately just take the phone and be like, $ 500,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: send it to yourself. Oh. Yeah.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: I never thought about that. Yeah. So that's what you
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: have to say, no, I'll call the person for you.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: In case the person actually does need help.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I mean, I guess if you're, you know,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: meeting this guy to grind with and you.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: To grind with?
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's why they named it that, don't you think?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: I remember Grindr was, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's just like because Tinder, they were just
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: like using the same kind of.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: Well, Grindr was the first one ever. Oh. I remember
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: it was Guy Branum who first told us that Grindr
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: even existed.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: Oh. It was before.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: When we were in Australia.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: But Tinder ripped them off.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he turned it on and it was just like,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: I can find all the Australian gay guys within like
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: a mile radius of me. And I did think that
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: was kind of great. No, it is.
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  Speaker 2: That's why, I mean, that's like, I guess that's why
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: they're saying with the ring, I guess it's almost the
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: same thing. Like you can just sort of have.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like a bat signal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That you're, I don't know. I worry about everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know where you're staying?
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  Speaker 2: I don't yet. No, hopefully I don't. Not yet.
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  Speaker 1: Well, maybe somebody who's going to go can vet some
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  Speaker 2: Usually it's, I haven't had any bad experiences really lately
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't a gig. That was going to see a
• 1:31:35
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  Speaker 2: Because they do it for me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, they're doing it. Yeah. Oh, then we don't need that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No. Okay.
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