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- 0:44Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast with her Radiosh.
- 0:50Speaker 1: I just woke up from a week long nap class
- 0:53Speaker 1: week off, and I've been sleeping ever since. I've had
- 0:56Speaker 1: a good amount of sleep this week as well. It's
- 0:59Speaker 1: impre that we take some time off, right people. I
- 1:04Speaker 1: get it. It's mid season, and you know, I take
- 1:09Speaker 1: it as almost like uh an encouragement to us. Yeah,
- 1:14Speaker 1: people are upset, but you know what, we decided it
- 1:17Speaker 1: since it was July four, which is a massive weekend
- 1:19Speaker 1: here on the lake for me in Indiana, and then
- 1:21Speaker 1: Ashley was celebrating it with who um, Jared just went
- 1:25Speaker 1: home Fourth July. I wish we had more traditions in Virginia,
- 1:28Speaker 1: but we don't. But we went to our friends for
- 1:31Speaker 1: barbecue and we've watched fireworks pretty pretty common standard. Yeah,
- 1:36Speaker 1: but it's a big week for me. So the funny
- 1:38Speaker 1: part about and nobody gets this. And Jessica came back
- 1:40Speaker 1: to win the Lake for the very first time last week,
- 1:44Speaker 1: very first time. Okay, she's been a devor so much.
- 1:47Speaker 1: I know, well, but I'm not home very often, like
- 1:49Speaker 1: to my hometown. But the fourth of July in Indiana
- 1:53Speaker 1: or especially in the lake here in Wine the lake
- 1:56Speaker 1: has a lot more tradition than any other holiday. Like
- 1:59Speaker 1: it's a big deal that the parade that I want
- 2:01Speaker 1: that uh they call it the hood parade. Um, the
- 2:06Speaker 1: fire trucks come out and then everybody in the lake
- 2:08Speaker 1: does fireworks. And one of the traditions that I have
- 2:10Speaker 1: is my mom and I every year we go out
- 2:12Speaker 1: and we buy a ton of fireworks and we light
- 2:14Speaker 1: them off together. Um here on the lake on the
- 2:17Speaker 1: fourth of July. So it's a big week. We took
- 2:20Speaker 1: it off. We apologize, but we didn't miss a ton.
- 2:23Speaker 1: I mean, this is really the big week that we
- 2:26Speaker 1: need to start diving in. Any Well, last week we
- 2:29Speaker 1: missed that promo did the windmill, So we missed a
- 2:34Speaker 1: lot in the teaser, but we didn't miss a ton
- 2:37Speaker 1: in that episode. But we can always talk about the
- 2:39Speaker 1: windmill later in this episode. Um, you know it's it's
- 2:43Speaker 1: referring to next week's episode anyway, So I mean we're
- 2:46Speaker 1: going to really dive into it next week. Ben, I
- 2:49Speaker 1: want to tell you why this week was a big
- 2:51Speaker 1: deal for me. Why why is it? Um? Last week,
- 2:56Speaker 1: I guess. I mean it was the last time I
- 2:59Speaker 1: hung out with my dad before our wedding week. And
- 3:04Speaker 1: it was the last time I slept in my childhood
- 3:07Speaker 1: room as an unmarried woman. Oh yeah, like there was
- 3:11Speaker 1: the last time I slept in my bed at home
- 3:13Speaker 1: alone because my parents are My dad specifically doesn't didn't
- 3:17Speaker 1: allow Jared I to sleep in the same bed together.
- 3:21Speaker 1: That makes sense. That's that completely makes sense. I get
- 3:23Speaker 1: what he's doing, and he should. That's a good. Isn't
- 3:27Speaker 1: that crazy? But it was like, this is the last
- 3:29Speaker 1: time I'm waking up with my bed alone at home.
- 3:32Speaker 1: How does it? I mean, what did the emotions running
- 3:34Speaker 1: through your head? It's just like so surreal, It's just
- 3:37Speaker 1: so crazy. It's very nostalgic and like it just I
- 3:42Speaker 1: don't know, does it feel like you're into what's the okay? Actually,
- 3:49Speaker 1: let's talk about the transition, Like what does this transition
- 3:51Speaker 1: feel like? Do you feel like you're forming turning into
- 3:53Speaker 1: something new, different, or what's the feelings? I think that
- 3:58Speaker 1: like as a kid and as a teenager, you're always
- 4:01Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, when I'm married and stuff, I'm gonna
- 4:04Speaker 1: be a real adult, and like what's going to happen
- 4:06Speaker 1: with my relationship with my family? Is it going to
- 4:08Speaker 1: be any different? But what I really love is that
- 4:11Speaker 1: Jared just fits in and it just feels like there's
- 4:13Speaker 1: five of us now instead of four of us, and
- 4:16Speaker 1: it still feels like there were the kids. We still
- 4:18Speaker 1: go like in the kid car and stuff like that
- 4:22Speaker 1: we're driving separately. I like the way it doesn't feel
- 4:26Speaker 1: like much is changing, just that we're adding a new
- 4:28Speaker 1: family member who feels like my sister's brother, and my mom,
- 4:33Speaker 1: even before Jared and I were ever together, said to
- 4:37Speaker 1: my dad, this is like a year before Jared and
- 4:39Speaker 1: I got together. She was like, could you really imagine
- 4:42Speaker 1: any other guy other than Jared being our son in law?
- 4:46Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just it does now? Is this the
- 4:51Speaker 1: the now that it's happening? Is this the vision that
- 4:55Speaker 1: you had for your your your mayor, and your your
- 4:58Speaker 1: future was that it would fit like does feel like
- 5:01Speaker 1: he is a son to them and that that he
- 5:04Speaker 1: is a brother to your sister, which is weird because
- 5:06Speaker 1: it lovest to me he's a brother, But I get
- 5:07Speaker 1: the context you're saying in this is this how you
- 5:11Speaker 1: would want it? Like? Is this is this good? I
- 5:13Speaker 1: think this is definitely how I wanted it to be
- 5:16Speaker 1: when I got older, Like in my mid to late twenties,
- 5:19Speaker 1: I always wanted to be like this. I always wanted
- 5:21Speaker 1: to feel like my sister's brother and for him to
- 5:23Speaker 1: just fit in. I think when you're younger, you have
- 5:25Speaker 1: like this totally different idea of what marriage and creating
- 5:30Speaker 1: your own family is. You think if it's more of
- 5:32Speaker 1: like like you're going to take another step instead of
- 5:35Speaker 1: like growing what you already have. But I love growing
- 5:37Speaker 1: what we already have. Such an important message right there
- 5:40Speaker 1: that I wonder how people feel, is you know, is
- 5:43Speaker 1: marriage taking a new step or is it growing what
- 5:46Speaker 1: you already have? Uh? That's that that's a huge, a
- 5:49Speaker 1: huge Uh. There's a dichotomy between the two of those
- 5:52Speaker 1: that we maybe can't fully process. But there that is
- 5:55Speaker 1: a massive moment for you to either take a new
- 5:58Speaker 1: step forward and I know some people have to do that,
- 6:00Speaker 1: right maybe their family is no longer around, or maybe
- 6:04Speaker 1: it's not a healthy family dynamic. But then also you
- 6:08Speaker 1: have that dynamic that you're walking into where it's healthy
- 6:10Speaker 1: and people around, and you're just saying, this is just
- 6:12Speaker 1: something new, it's adding on to what's already been there.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. Thanks for sharing that. That's a really
- 6:18Speaker 1: cool moment for you guys in a really amazing week
- 6:21Speaker 1: that Ashley Canetti uh soon to no longer be I
- 6:24Speaker 1: Canettie stayed in her house for the last time as
- 6:29Speaker 1: a nonmarried woman. Ashley, you've you've been formed in front
- 6:33Speaker 1: of us over these last two years, and that everybody
- 6:36Speaker 1: out there saying has been able to be a part
- 6:37Speaker 1: of it. Thank you, Ben, You're sweet? All right? Should
- 6:41Speaker 1: we jump into the episode. Well, yeah, I think we
- 6:44Speaker 1: should transition this way. I think we should say, is
- 6:46Speaker 1: Ashley no longer is a single woman living in her house?
- 6:51Speaker 1: It's very uh, it could be very possible that this
- 6:53Speaker 1: week Hannah comes home to her future husband's house. Time
- 6:58Speaker 1: look at that? What and a wild, wild relationship that
- 7:03Speaker 1: we have Ashley. Before we get digging in here to
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- 11:59Speaker 1: week off, this week was a big week for us
- 12:02Speaker 1: to discuss. We knew this would be one of the
- 12:04Speaker 1: weeks that we help or hopefully discover we're Hannah's at
- 12:08Speaker 1: in these relationships, and I want to start this whole
- 12:11Speaker 1: thing actley before we break down. I think date by date,
- 12:14Speaker 1: hometown by hometown is walking into this week after last
- 12:19Speaker 1: week because we didn't get to discuss it with the
- 12:22Speaker 1: listeners and our friends last week. What was your expectations,
- 12:25Speaker 1: what were you excited about and kind of what were
- 12:28Speaker 1: your takeaways from last week leading into Hometowns? Okay, Well,
- 12:31Speaker 1: based on the preview that we were given last week,
- 12:34Speaker 1: we if we've really dissected it, we could see that
- 12:38Speaker 1: every guy made it to hometown to fantasy suites. Good,
- 12:42Speaker 1: good point. So I think what I was most interested
- 12:45Speaker 1: in was seeing why she was so torn and so
- 12:49Speaker 1: indecisive that she couldn't eliminate someone during hometowns, meaning that
- 12:53Speaker 1: she liked everyone's hometowns or liked every guy enough to
- 12:58Speaker 1: bring them along. Um. And I guess this week to
- 13:03Speaker 1: me was Luke's best week, most likable week, and it
- 13:10Speaker 1: created and it made Jed somebody who we maybe don't
- 13:19Speaker 1: know if Hannah's going to enjoy family time was in
- 13:21Speaker 1: the future. Yeah, that's a good point. And I think
- 13:25Speaker 1: that's the big takeaway from last week. As we watched
- 13:27Speaker 1: last week's episode and we saw the promo, we knew
- 13:30Speaker 1: that something probably not very dramatic, was going to happen
- 13:34Speaker 1: this week. This week was really kind of the filler.
- 13:37Speaker 1: It's important to meet the families. And I think, as
- 13:40Speaker 1: actually and I spoke last week about the episode, the
- 13:43Speaker 1: one thing that we were just excited about was just
- 13:45Speaker 1: continue to see when and how the Loop P Hannah
- 13:49Speaker 1: dynamic was gonna play out, and we got to see
- 13:51Speaker 1: that this week. But before we dive into Loop P,
- 13:53Speaker 1: actually I want to start with the very first hometown
- 13:56Speaker 1: that we sawgical order. I think that would be the
- 14:01Speaker 1: best way, and our very first hometown was with pilot Pete.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Pete lives in west Lake. Can we talk about how
- 14:10Speaker 1: that was totally the episode, the part of the episode
- 14:14Speaker 1: that was taped last, because Pete lives in I mean,
- 14:18Speaker 1: I'm just guessing here, but but let's it's an educated guest.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Because Pete lives in Westlake Village, California, which is legitimately
- 14:28Speaker 1: not even ten minutes away from the Bachelor mansion. Hannah's
- 14:31Speaker 1: hotel is in Westlake, California. So I just figured that
- 14:36Speaker 1: was the day before the rose ceremony, which is possibly
- 14:39Speaker 1: why she gave him the rose first. She was like,
- 14:42Speaker 1: I had so much fun there, that was easy, Breezy,
- 14:46Speaker 1: I'm giving him this rose fresh in her mind. You
- 14:50Speaker 1: couldn't you. I mean, honestly, that's a lot how this
- 14:52Speaker 1: happens oftentimes. The other part, though, it could be that
- 14:55Speaker 1: maybe he was the first because they flew back into
- 14:57Speaker 1: l a and before she took off again. Just one
- 15:00Speaker 1: of the film's first it definitely, but either way, he
- 15:05Speaker 1: pulls up here. Actually, this is where I get a
- 15:07Speaker 1: little bit Enviously, I'm gonna I'm gonna say that my
- 15:10Speaker 1: main feeling and I'll explain why as we continue through
- 15:13Speaker 1: this episode was envy and jealousy. I'll explain as we go.
- 15:17Speaker 1: But my first moment of envy was he pulls up
- 15:20Speaker 1: in a little sexy Mercedes. Not what we picture Peter in,
- 15:25Speaker 1: but he pulls up in a Mercedes and he calls
- 15:27Speaker 1: it his girl or something. And you know what I drive.
- 15:30Speaker 1: We've talked about before two Ford Escape, Like this thing
- 15:33Speaker 1: has been my high school car. If I pulled up
- 15:36Speaker 1: to pick up my date in this car. The last
- 15:39Speaker 1: thing they're saying is that car is sexy. But Peter,
- 15:44Speaker 1: he not only has a nice car, he also flies
- 15:48Speaker 1: a plane. Actually, at this point, what are your thoughts
- 15:51Speaker 1: on Peter? Peter is like he used to be that
- 15:54Speaker 1: boy scout and now he's kind of the stud. Does
- 15:59Speaker 1: a stud have to a nice car? No, not at all,
- 16:02Speaker 1: but it's like adds an alert to him. Sure it helps.
- 16:08Speaker 1: I'm like Delta is good to that guy. Delta him
- 16:13Speaker 1: really good to him, and he seems to know how
- 16:16Speaker 1: to drive it. The other thing he seems to know
- 16:18Speaker 1: how to do is make things a little awkward. And
- 16:22Speaker 1: one of the big moments of this week that I
- 16:23Speaker 1: didn't think would even be a big moment, but surprise, surprise,
- 16:26Speaker 1: Peters had sex and we've seen him be very physical
- 16:32Speaker 1: with Hannah throughout the season. We talked about it two
- 16:35Speaker 1: weeks ago where it's crazy that we still view Peters
- 16:37Speaker 1: kind of the innocent, non edgy guy, yet we've seen
- 16:40Speaker 1: the most edge out of him throughout the season. And
- 16:43Speaker 1: Hannah finds a condom in his car? Is that awkward?
- 16:47Speaker 1: Is that funny? Actually? What is your take? I think
- 16:50Speaker 1: it's funny. They were like they obviously handled it. Well,
- 16:54Speaker 1: he's an adult and at least he's safe, right, I
- 16:58Speaker 1: don't know it was funny that she was snooping through
- 17:01Speaker 1: the center console because, like you just find out, you
- 17:05Speaker 1: actually can find out so many things about somebody through
- 17:08Speaker 1: what's in their center consoles. Through the console there for years, right, Yeah,
- 17:16Speaker 1: my center console has like the most outdated CDs in them.
- 17:21Speaker 1: Things from ten years ago are in there. They still
- 17:25Speaker 1: do your car have a CD player? Yeah? So yeah,
- 17:29Speaker 1: mine does. Do I still have a CD in my players? To? Oh?
- 17:32Speaker 1: I have them? Like I have Taylor Swift albums that
- 17:35Speaker 1: I'm like, actually a little o C D and uh,
- 17:41Speaker 1: I'm just like a little bit superstitious about the order
- 17:43Speaker 1: that they're in and that they that they stay in
- 17:45Speaker 1: that spot. I would I feel a little bit like
- 17:49Speaker 1: this is a great moment for us to ask our
- 17:50Speaker 1: listeners what would be the weirdest or I guess what
- 17:54Speaker 1: would be the most telling thing found in your center
- 17:56Speaker 1: council of your car? Please email us at been an Ashley.
- 18:00Speaker 1: I heart media dot com. Let us know what the
- 18:02Speaker 1: weirdest thing is. No judgment. I'm sure if I looked
- 18:06Speaker 1: out there now, I could find like multiple odd things
- 18:09Speaker 1: that people be like, I don't get it, this is odd,
- 18:11Speaker 1: this is weird. I mean you would find stuff literally
- 18:14Speaker 1: since high school in my center council. You would find
- 18:16Speaker 1: a fishing license that's probably I know this perfectly, so
- 18:19Speaker 1: that's seven years um overdue, like it's expired. It It
- 18:24Speaker 1: literally would be weird. So please emails I've been an
- 18:26Speaker 1: actually I heard media dot com or tweet us and
- 18:29Speaker 1: hashtag almost famous podcasts and let us know what the
- 18:32Speaker 1: weirdest thing in your Center Center council would be. I
- 18:36Speaker 1: don't think it's weird that she found a condom. I
- 18:38Speaker 1: think it makes sense. Uh, you know, he, like I said, surprise, surprise,
- 18:42Speaker 1: he has had sex. He's at least safe. It's a
- 18:45Speaker 1: funny moment though, and I think it's a little bit
- 18:47Speaker 1: of foreshadowing to what we're gonna see next week, where
- 18:50Speaker 1: sex is gonna, I would imagine, be the main topic
- 18:54Speaker 1: to the episode. I think sex will be probably what
- 18:57Speaker 1: we talked about most on this podcast next week, which
- 19:00Speaker 1: will be fun and exciting and weird and a tad awkward.
- 19:03Speaker 1: But it feels like we're ramping up to really have
- 19:05Speaker 1: those really intense conversations. We see that too. That foreshadowing
- 19:09Speaker 1: again with Luke at the school, the Sunday school or
- 19:13Speaker 1: just like what would that be like that's not Sunday school.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Is a weird way of saying that, right, Yeah, small
- 19:19Speaker 1: group Sunday school or something like that. Okay, Well, we
- 19:22Speaker 1: see him talking about sex there, and I just think
- 19:24Speaker 1: that was so obviously a foreshadowing that's what we're going
- 19:27Speaker 1: to talk about next week. It really is he's setting
- 19:31Speaker 1: himself up for a massive implosion, but before we get
- 19:35Speaker 1: the Luke. Actually, my takeaway from Peter's hometown is that
- 19:40Speaker 1: his family seems really great. It's it's kind of like
- 19:43Speaker 1: it almost feels like my family, or at least it
- 19:46Speaker 1: reminded me of my family in the sense of my
- 19:49Speaker 1: parents were close, we love each other, but like they're weird.
- 19:54Speaker 1: We're we're weird, Like I know that there's things that
- 19:56Speaker 1: happen when we're together that people on the outside probably
- 19:59Speaker 1: are like, this doesn't make sense, Like your dad is
- 20:01Speaker 1: cracking jokes that like never completely finished, and you know,
- 20:06Speaker 1: like they bicker over the smallest of like house housing projects,
- 20:12Speaker 1: but yet at the end of the night, they're always
- 20:13Speaker 1: cuddling up on the couch, like ultimately very affectionate with
- 20:16Speaker 1: each other. This is a weird family. It feels like
- 20:19Speaker 1: that for Peter's family. I really like Peter's family. Yeah,
- 20:22Speaker 1: they're like the family that you most would want to
- 20:24Speaker 1: hang out with. They're just super warm. I loved how
- 20:27Speaker 1: emotional they were. I love that he brought up He
- 20:30Speaker 1: got so teary when he brought up his grandparents and
- 20:33Speaker 1: then his dad, Like, how do you explain the emotional
- 20:37Speaker 1: breakdown that his dadad. You think he's just like the
- 20:40Speaker 1: most hopeless romantic man. Yeah. Well, also, I mean and
- 20:45Speaker 1: and this this podcast. I'm gonna warn you now and
- 20:46Speaker 1: if you don't want to listen to it anymore, you
- 20:48Speaker 1: can turn it off from here. But this is gonna
- 20:50Speaker 1: there's a lot of very personal reflections that I've done
- 20:52Speaker 1: through watching this episode and reminding me of my time
- 20:55Speaker 1: on The Bachelor. Actually, so I'm gonna continue to pull
- 20:57Speaker 1: back to my own experiences and loves at Okay, I
- 21:01Speaker 1: just want to make sure that everybody's clear that the
- 21:03Speaker 1: way I related with this episode was how I related.
- 21:06Speaker 1: But my dad broke down a couple of times during
- 21:09Speaker 1: my season. He broke down on after the final Rows,
- 21:12Speaker 1: he broke oh yeah, he broke down during when I,
- 21:15Speaker 1: when I showed when they showed up to Jamaica. My
- 21:18Speaker 1: dad's very emotional. And it's weird. You gotta think about
- 21:20Speaker 1: this actually, and we forget this piece, and I think
- 21:23Speaker 1: it's good for us to talk about now. Is all
- 21:25Speaker 1: of a sudden, your son or your daughter goes on
- 21:28Speaker 1: a show and they're gone for two and a half months.
- 21:29Speaker 1: You haven't talked to him and they show up and
- 21:32Speaker 1: all you want for them is for them to be
- 21:34Speaker 1: filled with happiness, and now they are. You've missed us
- 21:37Speaker 1: out on a large portion of their life, and now
- 21:39Speaker 1: they're telling you they're falling in love and they're telling
- 21:41Speaker 1: you all about these amazing experiences they have, and you're
- 21:44Speaker 1: sitting there trying to take all this in As a parent,
- 21:48Speaker 1: I think it's very easy to break down, especially if
- 21:51Speaker 1: you have that like sensitive like side. Do you m
- 21:55Speaker 1: it tough? And he has a mustache, so we just
- 21:57Speaker 1: gotta like him for that. He is a very cute dad.
- 22:01Speaker 1: I really, I really liked that that whole segment of
- 22:05Speaker 1: the episode. I felt like it was super easy to watch.
- 22:08Speaker 1: I think Hannah just had a great time and um,
- 22:13Speaker 1: I don't know a lot much more to say about that. Well,
- 22:16Speaker 1: the last question before I fill on Peters is our
- 22:18Speaker 1: synopsis that we've talked about is this The hometown date
- 22:21Speaker 1: was great. It felt like the one that was the
- 22:23Speaker 1: most loving and the most accepting and the most Jory filled.
- 22:26Speaker 1: I think throughout this whole episode, I also think it's
- 22:28Speaker 1: the one that was carrying. It felt like kind of
- 22:32Speaker 1: the most progress from start to finish. I want to
- 22:35Speaker 1: say this though, you know. One big moment that we
- 22:38Speaker 1: we can't skip over is that Peter tells his mom
- 22:41Speaker 1: that he's falling hard and he's falling in love for Hannah,
- 22:45Speaker 1: but he has yet to tell her. Ashley, what is
- 22:47Speaker 1: your opinion? Is this the week or is this the
- 22:51Speaker 1: time that it feels right? It feels almost weird for
- 22:53Speaker 1: me to even ask you, like, is this the week
- 22:54Speaker 1: to tell her that he loves her? Because it feels
- 22:56Speaker 1: like there's like a time to it or a pressure
- 22:58Speaker 1: on it. But we do. If he's feeling this way
- 23:01Speaker 1: and he's telling his mom this, would you expect him
- 23:03Speaker 1: to also tell Hannah yet? Or should he wait? I
- 23:06Speaker 1: think per norm they usually tell the bachelor of the
- 23:11Speaker 1: bachelorette the TV he's shaking, Do you have another earth quake?
- 23:16Speaker 1: If you guys don't know. We record these episodes in
- 23:19Speaker 1: Los Angeles and a lot of earthquakes recently. I think
- 23:22Speaker 1: everybody's a little on edge, and when the next one's
- 23:24Speaker 1: getting hit, actually you're like shaking your leg and like
- 23:27Speaker 1: the TV was shaking with you, or maybe that was
- 23:29Speaker 1: your screen. That was your screen and I was seeing
- 23:31Speaker 1: an illusion. Everybody's on edge in Los Angeles. Okay, So, um,
- 23:36Speaker 1: I think normally this is the week that they end
- 23:39Speaker 1: up saying like, I'm falling in love with your, arm
- 23:41Speaker 1: in love with you. We always talked about the difference
- 23:43Speaker 1: between those two. Um, I feel like I would rather
- 23:48Speaker 1: them wait to fantasy sweet week, don't I Just I
- 23:51Speaker 1: like it when they take their time with it. I
- 23:54Speaker 1: think so too, I I really do. I agree with
- 23:57Speaker 1: you completely. It feels like if you have this feeling
- 24:01Speaker 1: that you want to tell her, and I get that
- 24:02Speaker 1: people are feeling this at this point, then you need
- 24:05Speaker 1: to wait to the appropriate moment, and doing it at
- 24:07Speaker 1: hometowns doesn't seem like that moment because you don't get
- 24:10Speaker 1: a lot of one on one time and there's not
- 24:11Speaker 1: a lot of follow up to discuss, you know, the
- 24:15Speaker 1: the just the backstory. And so I think, uh, the
- 24:18Speaker 1: overnight section is the one that really makes it makes sense, uh,
- 24:22Speaker 1: And it gives them the most time to one on
- 24:25Speaker 1: one kind of speak about what they're actually feeling. But
- 24:28Speaker 1: Peter has now said it. We know how Peter is feeling.
- 24:30Speaker 1: His heart's on his sleeve. His family has now invested,
- 24:33Speaker 1: Peters invested. We like Peter a lot on this podcast.
- 24:36Speaker 1: We have since the beginning. I still think if he
- 24:39Speaker 1: doesn't the one chosen he's the next bachelor, it's either
- 24:41Speaker 1: him or might Really Okay, so I'll play a little
- 24:49Speaker 1: Devil's advocate here, but actually it's not even Devil's advocates,
- 24:51Speaker 1: just how I feel. Um, let's look at the Instagram numbers.
- 24:57Speaker 1: I think that it's so hard to deny the fact
- 25:02Speaker 1: that Tyler has a hundred. Let me see what he's got.
- 25:05Speaker 1: He had over a hundred. He over had over eight
- 25:08Speaker 1: hundred thousand yesterday when I checked, and he probably has
- 25:13Speaker 1: more now. He has eight hundred and thirty eight thousand followers.
- 25:19Speaker 1: That's how invested women are in him versus Peter, who
- 25:24Speaker 1: has almost five hundred. And let's see Jed. I mean,
- 25:28Speaker 1: Jed has obviously, like he's just not a candidate anymore
- 25:31Speaker 1: after the cheating thing, he has three hundred and fifty thousand,
- 25:36Speaker 1: and then well Luke is obviously also not a candidate.
- 25:39Speaker 1: So yeah, well that's a good point. I mean, it
- 25:42Speaker 1: typically does seem to follow what the fans are most
- 25:45Speaker 1: invested in. I also think that those numbers are a
- 25:47Speaker 1: little skewed right now because there's a lot more people
- 25:49Speaker 1: on Instagram than ever before. And so I think the
- 25:52Speaker 1: differentiator between those four is very telling to what fans
- 25:56Speaker 1: are following. And I think, like you said, Tyler seems
- 25:59Speaker 1: to be the fan favorite it. But the question is
- 26:01Speaker 1: the show knows more than anybody else, and it's been
- 26:03Speaker 1: our questional season. Is he ready, which we're gonna get
- 26:07Speaker 1: to know a little bit more on his hometown if
- 26:10Speaker 1: he's ready or not. But before we do that, we
- 26:14Speaker 1: have a couple of sponsors once again that we want
- 26:16Speaker 1: to talk about and think because we appreciate them more
- 26:20Speaker 1: than they probably even appreciate us. We now visit the
- 26:25Speaker 1: beautiful Jupiter, Florida. Hey, quick fact here my cousin, my
- 26:29Speaker 1: dad's cousin is the town manager of Jupiter Island, Florida.
- 26:33Speaker 1: So I've been on there many times, very familiar, my
- 26:36Speaker 1: whole families from there, um more mom on my my
- 26:39Speaker 1: grandpa's side, So I've been a Jupiter bunch. It's a
- 26:42Speaker 1: beautiful area, Ashley. As we talked about before we took
- 26:47Speaker 1: a break, Tyler is definitely the fan favorite and the
- 26:50Speaker 1: flast four remaining. Uh, he's shirtless driving a boat rubbing
- 26:56Speaker 1: sunscreen on Hannah and she's rubbing on him. Can we
- 27:00Speaker 1: picture a sexier date? No, it was the ultimate Tyler date.
- 27:05Speaker 1: It was perfect for Jupiter, It's perfect for Tyler. A
- 27:08Speaker 1: boat and a tiki bar, followed by his lovely family.
- 27:12Speaker 1: It was just great and like Tyler just keeps winning
- 27:15Speaker 1: this get like in my eyes, like Tyler is the
- 27:18Speaker 1: one that there's just like nothing wrong. There's nothing wrong
- 27:23Speaker 1: right now. I mean, I guess Peter. There's nothing wrong
- 27:25Speaker 1: with Peter either. No, the two of them feel very
- 27:28Speaker 1: similar and like who they are and how they're interacting
- 27:31Speaker 1: with Hannah and who they are as just men. And
- 27:33Speaker 1: they're both good looking dudes who have it together, who
- 27:36Speaker 1: seem like guys who want to do the best possible
- 27:39Speaker 1: or live life in the best possible way to be
- 27:42Speaker 1: the best possible men. I feel like this episode made
- 27:46Speaker 1: like if you had any doubts about Tyler being a
- 27:48Speaker 1: player after seeing him with your fit with a family,
- 27:52Speaker 1: because I feel like everybody has had those those doubts
- 27:54Speaker 1: all season, like how can he be this great and
- 27:56Speaker 1: be this good looking and lala? But then you see
- 27:59Speaker 1: him with his face, I'm laying you're like, No, I
- 28:01Speaker 1: pretty much think this guy is straight up genuine. Yeah,
- 28:05Speaker 1: I do you know the only thing that I get
- 28:07Speaker 1: And I know this will women everywhere will just be
- 28:10Speaker 1: so mad at me for saying this. This will be great.
- 28:13Speaker 1: I look at his I look at his Instagram, and
- 28:15Speaker 1: I do wonder how much self promotion is going on.
- 28:18Speaker 1: I do that often with these guys. You know, there's
- 28:20Speaker 1: a lot of modeling pictures, that kind of thing. That's
- 28:22Speaker 1: the only thing that's still making me go, is this guy, Like,
- 28:25Speaker 1: is he in it to not be about himself? And
- 28:28Speaker 1: I think I started out questioning it a few weeks ago.
- 28:32Speaker 1: I discussed that, and I am starting to be sold
- 28:34Speaker 1: that he really is in it for Hannah, that he's
- 28:37Speaker 1: in it to try to find somebody. He just happens
- 28:39Speaker 1: to be ridiculously good looking. And I think the country
- 28:42Speaker 1: is starting to turn and say, yeah, he's not a player.
- 28:44Speaker 1: He hasn't at least shown any signs of it yet,
- 28:47Speaker 1: and we have. I mean the crazy part is we've
- 28:50Speaker 1: now heard it with both Peter and Jed that they've
- 28:53Speaker 1: maybe had relationships leading up to the show. Yeah, what's
- 28:55Speaker 1: a Peter thing? Can you do you know anything? There's
- 28:58Speaker 1: speculation that he had a girlfriend as well. Yeah, but
- 29:01Speaker 1: they broke up about a month before filming started, which
- 29:04Speaker 1: feels a lot better to me than just leaving with
- 29:06Speaker 1: a girlfriend telling her, hey, when I come back, like,
- 29:09Speaker 1: this will be all good. So I think that's why
- 29:11Speaker 1: Jed's you know, kind of story continues. But um, we
- 29:16Speaker 1: haven't heard anything about Tyler. He seems we want escaping
- 29:19Speaker 1: to the clear, and so let's let's assume Tyler is
- 29:21Speaker 1: not a player. Then we have this really good looking
- 29:24Speaker 1: dude who drives boats around Florida who wasn't a player. Actually,
- 29:28Speaker 1: are you in the Tyler camp? Oh? Yeah, I mean
- 29:31Speaker 1: Tyler is number one. Really, Tyler's my number one. I
- 29:35Speaker 1: think Tyler is the one that we're all saying, this
- 29:38Speaker 1: guy's got that in factor, he's got something special. Actually, Tyler,
- 29:42Speaker 1: everybody on Twitter last night, uh you know it's We've
- 29:45Speaker 1: got a lot of responses on Twitter and then also
- 29:48Speaker 1: through email, but well, everybody on Twitter last night was
- 29:50Speaker 1: saying how emotional these hometown dates made them. And the
- 29:53Speaker 1: emotional piece that I found out that really got people
- 29:56Speaker 1: going was Tyler's time home seeing his dad for the
- 30:01Speaker 1: first time. A couple of weeks ago, we heard that
- 30:03Speaker 1: Tyler's dad had been sick right up until Tyler left.
- 30:07Speaker 1: Also that you know, Tyler's dad did it really well
- 30:09Speaker 1: for himself about ten fifteen years ago and then ultimately
- 30:13Speaker 1: lost their their childhood home to the recession. So there's
- 30:16Speaker 1: a lot of backstory and grit built into Tyler and
- 30:19Speaker 1: his dad's relationship. And so I think when they saw
- 30:22Speaker 1: Tyler's dad for the first time, there was a lot
- 30:25Speaker 1: of emotion there and it reminded me of my story
- 30:29Speaker 1: that one. I don't know how often we've even talked
- 30:31Speaker 1: about in the podcast, and I almost think I've never
- 30:34Speaker 1: talked about it during the show. It's kind of crazy.
- 30:37Speaker 1: So I get it you and viewers, I need you
- 30:40Speaker 1: to understand this. You leave this podcast for Lee, for
- 30:44Speaker 1: this show, you're gone from months at a time, you
- 30:46Speaker 1: don't have contact with anybody back home, no phone, no computer,
- 30:51Speaker 1: no internet, no nothing. And so you leave and say,
- 30:54Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of put life back home on pause
- 30:57Speaker 1: for months and go explore love. For so many reasons,
- 31:01Speaker 1: it's a great thing. It helps you focus, it takes
- 31:04Speaker 1: a way outside like distractions, but for a lot of reasons,
- 31:09Speaker 1: it's also hard and sad, and there's a lot of
- 31:12Speaker 1: excitement and anxiety and emotion build up to when you
- 31:15Speaker 1: talked to your family who you love dearly or friends
- 31:18Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time. Right before
- 31:21Speaker 1: my time on The Bachelor, my dad and actually I
- 31:24Speaker 1: think you knew this. He had triple bypass surgery a
- 31:27Speaker 1: week and a half before I left for The Bachelor.
- 31:29Speaker 1: The Bachelor, yeah, so like he was recovering still up
- 31:35Speaker 1: until really the day I left, and then when I
- 31:38Speaker 1: left him, I go on the show and we're traveling
- 31:40Speaker 1: the world, but really for me, it was, uh, the
- 31:44Speaker 1: North just the North America. Um well, at the same time,
- 31:48Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk to this guy who I
- 31:50Speaker 1: saw on a hospital bed get his chest cracked open.
- 31:54Speaker 1: It's hard. I have a question. Did they let you
- 31:57Speaker 1: talk to your parents more often then? Like obviously the
- 32:01Speaker 1: regular cast can't call home. I actually got to for
- 32:05Speaker 1: like thirty seconds once because my parents thirtieth anniversary maybe yeah,
- 32:11Speaker 1: I was their anniversary, my dad's oh, my dad's sixtieth birthday,
- 32:15Speaker 1: so I got to call home for thirty seconds. Did
- 32:17Speaker 1: you get to call home more often, especially given that
- 32:20Speaker 1: your dad was sick. Yeah, I definitely did. But at
- 32:24Speaker 1: the same time, they're always really weird conversations because you
- 32:27Speaker 1: never get to have them alone, so they're either being
- 32:30Speaker 1: taped or there's about four people sitting around you. So
- 32:33Speaker 1: like if you know as my dad, you know it's
- 32:36Speaker 1: saying these things and as I remember the last I
- 32:39Speaker 1: saw Hi him in the hospital. But like you get emotional,
- 32:42Speaker 1: well then you know what's going to be on TV,
- 32:44Speaker 1: and do you I guess for me, I don't want
- 32:46Speaker 1: to use my dad's you know, heart surgery to bring
- 32:51Speaker 1: in emotion from the fans of the viewers. Like that
- 32:53Speaker 1: feels like I'm almost playing the victim to my band.
- 32:57Speaker 1: So like I would try to keep it together. Dad,
- 32:58Speaker 1: how you doing, I'm good, you know, good Dad? Happy
- 33:01Speaker 1: for you, Like I don't want to dig deep like
- 33:03Speaker 1: I would if we were together. And so I think
- 33:05Speaker 1: this is a really precious moment for Tyler and his
- 33:08Speaker 1: dad and one that I do understand and get. All
- 33:10Speaker 1: I'm trying to say here is I get what it
- 33:12Speaker 1: feels like to walk into a room and see somebody
- 33:14Speaker 1: you love for the first time in months, when you've
- 33:17Speaker 1: been thinking about them constantly and worrying about them constantly,
- 33:19Speaker 1: and you see them and you hug them, and it
- 33:22Speaker 1: feels like a weight is lifted. But at the same time,
- 33:26Speaker 1: at least during this one town, it felt like it
- 33:27Speaker 1: was just the beginning to a lot of emotion being
- 33:30Speaker 1: shared for Tyler to say, Hey, I'm bringing this girl
- 33:33Speaker 1: home who I really care about? Yeah, oh absolutely. I
- 33:40Speaker 1: think that what Hannah was actually so attracted to was
- 33:44Speaker 1: the fact that Tyler kind of like put the family
- 33:47Speaker 1: pants on during the dad's coma when his dad was
- 33:52Speaker 1: so sick, that he like kind of took over for
- 33:54Speaker 1: his dad. And I think leading a family like that
- 33:58Speaker 1: taking care of business is always a very attractive quality
- 34:02Speaker 1: for a woman to see in a man. And she
- 34:05Speaker 1: was like oddly kitty over it, you know, yeah, No,
- 34:09Speaker 1: I mean wouldn't you be like yeah, I mean as
- 34:12Speaker 1: a man or as a mom. Think about it this way.
- 34:15Speaker 1: If you're a mom and you saw your son, you know,
- 34:18Speaker 1: buckle up the bootstraps, put on the pants, and start
- 34:21Speaker 1: to be a father figure and also a meal influence
- 34:25Speaker 1: in the household. That's not only a problem moment for
- 34:28Speaker 1: a mother, but it's also a really attractive moment for
- 34:31Speaker 1: any person, man or a woman, because you look at somebody,
- 34:34Speaker 1: go you have grit, you have a you have characteristics
- 34:38Speaker 1: that show that you're ready for commitment and that you're
- 34:42Speaker 1: a leader at any level. You're a leader who will
- 34:45Speaker 1: step up to any type of problem that you're facing.
- 34:48Speaker 1: And I think there's no wonder that Hannah is looking
- 34:50Speaker 1: at this guy going to, wow, this is something special.
- 34:54Speaker 1: I get it. It's great, it's great. And then they
- 34:57Speaker 1: sent then he sent her off and that in to
- 35:00Speaker 1: y SUV and it was hot, and again Tyler went
- 35:06Speaker 1: in the day. It just feels like to me after
- 35:09Speaker 1: watching this week, actually, and we'll get into Jed more,
- 35:12Speaker 1: and I don't want to just continue to pound him
- 35:14Speaker 1: into the ground here, but I just have dismissed him
- 35:17Speaker 1: so much from this whole show that I watched this
- 35:20Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, it's it's the It's the Tyler
- 35:23Speaker 1: and Pete show. Like this other stuff is just like
- 35:26Speaker 1: entertaining and it's a joke. Okay, Well, let's talk about Jed.
- 35:30Speaker 1: When we get to Jed, let's talk about Luke first,
- 35:32Speaker 1: because I do have, of course the most to say
- 35:34Speaker 1: about Jed's hometown. Yeah, let's talk about Luke. I think
- 35:40Speaker 1: what we have found out this week about Luke and
- 35:43Speaker 1: Hannah's relationship is that their common bond is over their
- 35:48Speaker 1: religion and the faith is keeping her into him because
- 35:54Speaker 1: perhaps she doesn't share that with the other three. It's
- 35:57Speaker 1: interesting we haven't heard I'm thinking about now, we haven't
- 36:00Speaker 1: heard the other three talk much about their faith. But
- 36:01Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, this is where my
- 36:04Speaker 1: envy really comes in. And I've spoken about it all season,
- 36:07Speaker 1: and I have a theory now. It's been really hard
- 36:09Speaker 1: for me to process. And as you know, I respect
- 36:13Speaker 1: this show a lot, and it's been really good for me.
- 36:15Speaker 1: But I do have one major issue right now with
- 36:17Speaker 1: the show that I'm it's a theory, I cannot prove it, um,
- 36:22Speaker 1: but I was wondering why, you know, my my faith
- 36:26Speaker 1: in Jesus is the core of everything I do. It's
- 36:30Speaker 1: a lot of things I do don't make sense without it, right, Like,
- 36:32Speaker 1: if I'm boring, it's probably because I'm trying to practice
- 36:37Speaker 1: or think about, um, some of the teachings of Jesus.
- 36:41Speaker 1: Or if I'm speaking about, you know, my love for
- 36:43Speaker 1: family and my desire for kids, it's probably coming from
- 36:46Speaker 1: my faith in Jesus. Or if it's my my desire
- 36:49Speaker 1: to serve and to use my time, maybe not for
- 36:52Speaker 1: myself but others, it's coming from my faith in Jesus, Like,
- 36:55Speaker 1: it's the core of what I do, and it was
- 36:57Speaker 1: discussed often and it was never own and as a result,
- 37:01Speaker 1: it was frustrating to me because you know, as a Christian,
- 37:05Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense for me to do many things
- 37:07Speaker 1: in my life outside of trying to show that God
- 37:12Speaker 1: loves each and every person that has ever been on
- 37:16Speaker 1: this earth. Like, it doesn't make sense for me to
- 37:18Speaker 1: do that. It doesn't make sense for me to to
- 37:20Speaker 1: live a life that's that's meaningless for for any personal gain.
- 37:24Speaker 1: That's not what I believe. And so I was frustrated
- 37:28Speaker 1: often this season with how much Luke's faith was being shown,
- 37:31Speaker 1: because yes, I'm not going to question his faith. I
- 37:34Speaker 1: don't think that's fair of me. I don't know what
- 37:36Speaker 1: his interactions with God have been or have not been,
- 37:40Speaker 1: or how healthy his relationship with God is. But for me, Ashley,
- 37:44Speaker 1: it's really frustrating because Luke and I see very differently
- 37:49Speaker 1: on our ideals of Christianity. We've talked about two weeks ago.
- 37:52Speaker 1: Is Luke's gonna be a lot more conservative? Uh? He
- 37:55Speaker 1: is going to feel like a lot more things are
- 37:58Speaker 1: black and white and the simplicity to the faith is
- 38:02Speaker 1: going to feel very easy to explain where mine. You know,
- 38:05Speaker 1: my faith really lies in a bunch of questions. I
- 38:07Speaker 1: just have a thousand questions. But I the end of
- 38:08Speaker 1: the day, I believe in Jesus and I believe that
- 38:11Speaker 1: he is God because of my life experience. So with
- 38:14Speaker 1: all that being said, I'm I was really frustrated with
- 38:18Speaker 1: how much faith talk has been shown because it doesn't
- 38:21Speaker 1: feel like it mirrors necessarily the faith that I have.
- 38:24Speaker 1: And this week it made sense to me for the
- 38:26Speaker 1: first time. And I want to tell you why. I
- 38:27Speaker 1: want to hear what you think of this, and listeners,
- 38:29Speaker 1: I want to hear you think, so please, emails have
- 38:30Speaker 1: been an Actually I heart media dot com. I think
- 38:35Speaker 1: that my faith isn't entertaining because it has a lot
- 38:38Speaker 1: of questions. Like my my faith is driven by questions,
- 38:42Speaker 1: what is this all about? What is life all about?
- 38:45Speaker 1: How are we supposed to interact with people? Is there
- 38:47Speaker 1: a God? Is there not a God? Does that God
- 38:49Speaker 1: love us like us? Hate us? Is it just distant
- 38:51Speaker 1: and forgotten? Like? What is God? Those are my questions
- 38:54Speaker 1: And that's how my faith is driven in and really
- 38:57Speaker 1: it's how my conversations are driven with Luke, it's entertaining
- 39:00Speaker 1: because their stances that has been taken that. It's entertaining
- 39:04Speaker 1: because there's anger that's involved, and there's conviction and what's
- 39:08Speaker 1: right and wrong. And his communication style oftentimes is confusing
- 39:12Speaker 1: and it often leads to us to get become opinionated ourselves.
- 39:15Speaker 1: And so this week, as he enters into his Bible
- 39:18Speaker 1: study or small group or whatever that was, it was
- 39:22Speaker 1: entertaining to watch because his story confuses the masses while
- 39:29Speaker 1: at the same time captivating us to the further story
- 39:32Speaker 1: that's gonna come down the line, which is is he
- 39:35Speaker 1: going to reject Hannah because she's had sex. I think
- 39:38Speaker 1: that's why faith has been such a conversation with Luke,
- 39:40Speaker 1: and I want to hear what you think. So you're
- 39:42Speaker 1: saying that you think it's like a definitive thing, like
- 39:44Speaker 1: he doesn't question this is how it is because it's
- 39:51Speaker 1: funny for the public. Yeah, because I guess he I
- 39:55Speaker 1: guess it's entertaining because there's no wiggle room for him, right,
- 40:01Speaker 1: and it's more fire and brimstone. It's it's the kind
- 40:04Speaker 1: of conversations that we've had for you know, with the
- 40:08Speaker 1: history of the church and not the born people. But
- 40:10Speaker 1: you know, in the last four years, we've slowly progressed
- 40:13Speaker 1: into this very conservative mindset where Western uh, you know,
- 40:17Speaker 1: Christianity has become very very much black and white, where
- 40:20Speaker 1: we've lost the majesty, the magic, the mysticism to it
- 40:24Speaker 1: that Eastern Christianity has always had. And so his is
- 40:28Speaker 1: very much like, almost entertaining because it seems so far
- 40:32Speaker 1: off from what anybody that isn't maybe a conservative Southern
- 40:37Speaker 1: born Christian feels. Do you think do you think that
- 40:41Speaker 1: he has gained a fan base this week amongst those
- 40:45Speaker 1: very conservative, not questioning Southern Christians. Oh, I think those,
- 40:51Speaker 1: I think a lot of people. I mean I got
- 40:52Speaker 1: a ton of texts from friends that in the South
- 40:54Speaker 1: that we differ and we talk beliefs in religion, and
- 40:56Speaker 1: they texted me and said, Wow, how great is it.
- 40:59Speaker 1: I literally got it from a buddy that says, how
- 41:01Speaker 1: great is it that the Bachelor is finally showing Christianity
- 41:04Speaker 1: on television? And my response was, but was it healthy?
- 41:08Speaker 1: I mean, like, it doesn't look good, it doesn't look right,
- 41:11Speaker 1: but it doesn't look good. It doesn't allow anyone that
- 41:15Speaker 1: isn't a Christian to go wow, that makes sense. It
- 41:18Speaker 1: feels isolating and rejecting, and it feels like the kind
- 41:20Speaker 1: of the tone that we've taken, and especially in our generation,
- 41:26Speaker 1: with any type of divisive topics, is this is how
- 41:30Speaker 1: it is, and this is how it isn't, and this
- 41:32Speaker 1: is what I think, and this is what you should think.
- 41:34Speaker 1: And now we're all going to get around in a
- 41:36Speaker 1: circle and pep each other up and tell each other
- 41:38Speaker 1: how great we are. And then we're gonna go and
- 41:40Speaker 1: live our lives and act like everything is perfect or
- 41:42Speaker 1: at least very judgy, a little bit cult like. I
- 41:47Speaker 1: think it feels very very Southern Baptist Christian, and I
- 41:52Speaker 1: think that for the masses that watch The Bachelor, it
- 41:56Speaker 1: does feel very judgy. I completely agree with you, but
- 42:00Speaker 1: it's frustrating to me because I sit here, Ashley, and
- 42:03Speaker 1: I go everyone. I don't know Luke's faith. I'm not
- 42:06Speaker 1: going to question if he believes or what his motives are.
- 42:09Speaker 1: I don't know him. I don't know that I don't
- 42:11Speaker 1: This isn't a Luke problem. This is a this is
- 42:14Speaker 1: a disagreement with his viewpoints, which we should all have,
- 42:17Speaker 1: and we're all fair to have those. But what I
- 42:20Speaker 1: want to say is that do you realize that there's
- 42:22Speaker 1: so much more when it comes to our relationship with
- 42:26Speaker 1: God and our relationship with others and the majesty and
- 42:30Speaker 1: the questions that this world has to offer, then hey
- 42:33Speaker 1: don't have sex, or hey have sex? Like, do we
- 42:37Speaker 1: know that there's such? Does something so much more complex
- 42:40Speaker 1: to this world than that? And why are we boiling
- 42:43Speaker 1: down Christianity to be like God talk to me because
- 42:47Speaker 1: he doesn't want me to do X or he doesn't
- 42:50Speaker 1: want me to do Why? Why is that the tone
- 42:54Speaker 1: that we're taking. And that's what's so frustrating to me
- 42:57Speaker 1: is because I feel like it's just continue to push us.
- 42:59Speaker 1: We're a shandy acts as something nobody can understand why
- 43:04Speaker 1: the rest of the world rejects and laughs at it?
- 43:08Speaker 1: Is it so weird that this show over the past
- 43:11Speaker 1: couple of years has been so focused on sex and
- 43:15Speaker 1: who is having or not having it? I think it is.
- 43:19Speaker 1: Does it feel a little bit odd? Like it feels
- 43:20Speaker 1: weird because I just don't think it's something that is
- 43:24Speaker 1: I don't think it needs to be as big of
- 43:25Speaker 1: a deal as they're making it seems season after season.
- 43:28Speaker 1: Is it is sex sell that much? I think the
- 43:32Speaker 1: topic of sex is such a intimate, raw topic for
- 43:35Speaker 1: all of us, and one that still feels a little
- 43:37Speaker 1: bit taboo um because of you know, just our generation
- 43:40Speaker 1: and kind of how our parents are raised that it
- 43:42Speaker 1: feels like we're still like tiptoeing the line between doing
- 43:46Speaker 1: something bad by talking about it, and so we all
- 43:49Speaker 1: want to see it, talk about it here it um.
- 43:51Speaker 1: I think we'll see that slowly go away to where
- 43:55Speaker 1: we can have more honest dialogue. It doesn't seem so weird,
- 43:57Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, I but I'll be on this.
- 44:01Speaker 1: Actually if there's a preview like this one that says
- 44:04Speaker 1: Hannah had sex with a guy twice in a in
- 44:05Speaker 1: a lighthouse, like, I'm gonna be talking about it. A windmill?
- 44:09Speaker 1: Wind mill? That's it? How do you do that? I
- 44:12Speaker 1: don't going up? And that is that thing, that feeling
- 44:15Speaker 1: that a fantasy suite takes place in a windmill. Apparently
- 44:18Speaker 1: Greece has windmills, even though uh, Amsterdam in Holland and
- 44:22Speaker 1: the Netherlands are known for their windmills. Um. I believe
- 44:26Speaker 1: that the sex happens next week, but we'll see. Yeah.
- 44:29Speaker 1: I think Actually what I want to get out was
- 44:31Speaker 1: I'm envious because I would have loved to talk about
- 44:33Speaker 1: Jesus during and I'm sad that I that wasn't a topic.
- 44:38Speaker 1: And I'm also a little sad of how Jesus is
- 44:41Speaker 1: being portrayed this season for the right or wrong. If
- 44:46Speaker 1: if Luke was having so much sex that it was
- 44:48Speaker 1: a problem, or if he was feel like having sex
- 44:50Speaker 1: at all was a problem. And he's a better man
- 44:53Speaker 1: because he stopped and he was no longer mistreating women,
- 44:56Speaker 1: or he was no longer mistreating himself and his party
- 45:00Speaker 1: ways allowed it for clarity to where he can now
- 45:03Speaker 1: start to focus on people better. We got to celebrate that,
- 45:07Speaker 1: like that's a good victory in life for anybody to
- 45:09Speaker 1: where they can get rid of things that are harmful
- 45:12Speaker 1: to themselves to help them become a better person. Now
- 45:14Speaker 1: all those things will be different to everybody. But his
- 45:17Speaker 1: friends are saying something the whole time, actually that as viewers,
- 45:20Speaker 1: I think we we saw a lot of tweets they're
- 45:22Speaker 1: saying it's laughable because all of his friends are saying
- 45:24Speaker 1: he's the nicest dude ever. One tweet that we got says,
- 45:27Speaker 1: of course Luke would fill the room with a bunch
- 45:30Speaker 1: of people that will make him look like the best
- 45:32Speaker 1: guy ever. Do you agree or disagree or do you
- 45:34Speaker 1: think that Luke back Home is really that type of
- 45:36Speaker 1: guy to everybody loves. I think that Luke back Home
- 45:39Speaker 1: probably surrounds himself with people that really genuinely like him,
- 45:43Speaker 1: as we all do. I feel like he just he
- 45:47Speaker 1: rubs the guys in this in the Bachelor House the
- 45:50Speaker 1: wrong way because they don't see the world like he
- 45:53Speaker 1: does or tries to see the world. There's an interesting
- 45:57Speaker 1: take that Lauren uh is speaking of what you just said.
- 45:59Speaker 1: Lauren's has an interesting take this week where I heard
- 46:01Speaker 1: her talking and she said, you know, the one thing
- 46:04Speaker 1: we got to give Luke credit forward. It seems like
- 46:06Speaker 1: the fans are is that he is still the one
- 46:08Speaker 1: guy that's definitely there for Hannah. You know, Tyler and
- 46:11Speaker 1: Pete embrace once Peter gets back to the house like
- 46:16Speaker 1: true friends do, and and and Jed seems to get
- 46:18Speaker 1: along with those guys just fine. But but Luke is
- 46:22Speaker 1: still the guy that has no friends in the house.
- 46:24Speaker 1: But it's still there for Hannah. Do we feel like
- 46:27Speaker 1: there is room for friendship while at the same time
- 46:30Speaker 1: you're falling in love and dating the same woman. As
- 46:34Speaker 1: certain point, I think there's gonna be tension between the friends,
- 46:38Speaker 1: especially especially when it comes top four. There's a good
- 46:43Speaker 1: reason why. That's the time where you stop interacting with
- 46:47Speaker 1: the other cast members. You're completely separated from them. I
- 46:50Speaker 1: don't know if a lot of people know that. The
- 46:51Speaker 1: only times you see the other cast members during this
- 46:55Speaker 1: week and on is at Rose ceremonies. And I do
- 46:59Speaker 1: feel like they can have a great friendship, but it
- 47:03Speaker 1: definitely feels a little weird to be like congratulating and
- 47:07Speaker 1: and stuff and being happy that the other guys sticking
- 47:11Speaker 1: around at this point, because then it does feel like, oh, well,
- 47:15Speaker 1: how invested are you and her? If you're still happy
- 47:18Speaker 1: your your friend is hanging around, I think, you know,
- 47:21Speaker 1: you think you can question that. I look back on
- 47:26Speaker 1: my time with Sean Booth, and we were really good friends,
- 47:29Speaker 1: and he obviously ended up with Caitlin, and I wanted
- 47:31Speaker 1: to celebrate him, but also it was happy for them
- 47:34Speaker 1: because we were better friends, like we were good friends,
- 47:37Speaker 1: and so I wanted to celebrate them as a couple
- 47:39Speaker 1: because I knew who he was as a man, and
- 47:41Speaker 1: I knew at the time how much they cared for
- 47:43Speaker 1: each other. But it did feel weird at all levels
- 47:45Speaker 1: for him to ever confide in me about his relationship,
- 47:47Speaker 1: and I'm sure it was vice versa, and so at
- 47:49Speaker 1: some point we just stopped talking about it. Yeah, at
- 47:52Speaker 1: some point, I think like you put it kind of
- 47:54Speaker 1: on pause. It would be beneficial though. I will say
- 47:58Speaker 1: this for Hannah if Luke or if Tyler and Pete
- 48:04Speaker 1: get along really well, that at the end of this,
- 48:06Speaker 1: if she ends up with one of them and not
- 48:08Speaker 1: the other, because then they will hopefully discuss and and
- 48:12Speaker 1: and they will both understand why she was so into
- 48:14Speaker 1: both of them, and there's no longer that tension between
- 48:17Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, do you still think about Tyler? Oh
- 48:19Speaker 1: my gosh, you still think about Peter? They'll say, No,
- 48:22Speaker 1: we all get along just fine. We respect each other,
- 48:24Speaker 1: we like each other. But I'm ultimately moving on with
- 48:26Speaker 1: one of those guys alone. That That's not how Sean
- 48:31Speaker 1: was with you, guys. Um we talked for a little
- 48:35Speaker 1: bit afterwards. I think it just gets hard. I think
- 48:39Speaker 1: it gets weird because you have to watch it back
- 48:41Speaker 1: then and you have to see this person that you
- 48:43Speaker 1: love saying things and doing things with your friends, and
- 48:46Speaker 1: it's like I don't like this, Like, this isn't fun
- 48:49Speaker 1: for me to watch her at all any level making
- 48:52Speaker 1: out with people, especially people that I consider my friends.
- 48:55Speaker 1: You take it personally for a while, and I think
- 48:56Speaker 1: over time it fades. But there is good examples of
- 49:00Speaker 1: people who get along post show. I think Blake and
- 49:02Speaker 1: Garrett get along really well post show. Um, I think, uh,
- 49:07Speaker 1: you know, I don't know about Nick season if they
- 49:10Speaker 1: get along very well post show. But you know, Cassie
- 49:13Speaker 1: is really good friends with Kalin, So that's happening post show.
- 49:16Speaker 1: Like there's things that happen there there that does exist. Um, hey,
- 49:20Speaker 1: I actually want to talk to you a little bit.
- 49:22Speaker 1: We obviously know that Luke's family is going to support him.
- 49:25Speaker 1: I mean, it's family, and we hope they would. That
- 49:27Speaker 1: would be really sad if they didn't. Were you Does
- 49:30Speaker 1: your viewpoint of Luke after his hometown has it changed
- 49:34Speaker 1: at all? Has this done anything good for you? I
- 49:37Speaker 1: mean it helps them a little bit because his family
- 49:40Speaker 1: seems genuinely nice and like they seemed pretty lovely right, Um,
- 49:45Speaker 1: the sister, the sister in law, and the brother. They
- 49:48Speaker 1: really try to defend him. It was interesting. I actually
- 49:52Speaker 1: loved how Hannah was so upfront with like, this hasn't
- 49:54Speaker 1: been easy for us, Like he has created a lot
- 49:57Speaker 1: of complications along the way. But um, I guess, like
- 50:01Speaker 1: this is the best I've ever felt about Luke. But
- 50:03Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that like I am rooting for him
- 50:05Speaker 1: in any capacity? Is it weird for you? A big
- 50:10Speaker 1: article came out this week or last night on US
- 50:12Speaker 1: Weekly about Hannah's text during the show and how kind
- 50:16Speaker 1: of controversial there were her tweets, sorry and We're One
- 50:20Speaker 1: tweet said, have you ever told a family that nobody
- 50:22Speaker 1: likes your son? That? You know what I took It
- 50:24Speaker 1: doesn't sound like somebody that has a fiance like with
- 50:28Speaker 1: like that Luke is her fiance, Like I don't think
- 50:30Speaker 1: my fiance would be tweeting something like that. Oh yeah, no,
- 50:35Speaker 1: totally not. So it obviously doesn't. Yeah, well, I mean
- 50:38Speaker 1: we obviously don't we. I think it's not a spoiler
- 50:41Speaker 1: because we already see We've already seen Luke's exit, so
- 50:46Speaker 1: so it's pretty we're just kind of waiting to see
- 50:49Speaker 1: when he goes home. I guess why why have they?
- 50:51Speaker 1: I mean, like, I know it's great teaser, but I'm
- 50:53Speaker 1: still kind of confused. Why they would leave this so
- 50:56Speaker 1: anti climatic for us because they put the best stuff
- 50:59Speaker 1: in the teeth or I mean, unless there's like better
- 51:02Speaker 1: stuff waiting for us. Oh, I think from everything I
- 51:05Speaker 1: hear and I still don't know how this ends. But
- 51:08Speaker 1: the rumors that go around Bachelor Nation right now and
- 51:11Speaker 1: is that this season ends in the wildest way ever
- 51:14Speaker 1: the season ends. But I'm talking about like the windmill,
- 51:18Speaker 1: like her confessing to Luke that she did have sex
- 51:21Speaker 1: with somebody, and that whole scene, which is kind of
- 51:23Speaker 1: like this season's fence jumping scene. I just am really
- 51:28Speaker 1: curious as to why they've shown Luke attached to that
- 51:33Speaker 1: scene because wouldn't it be better if we didn't know
- 51:36Speaker 1: who she was talking to in that moment? Like why
- 51:39Speaker 1: did they give away his exit for us? Well, because
- 51:42Speaker 1: I think it's actually I have a theory that there's
- 51:44Speaker 1: so many other amazing things that are gonna happen the
- 51:46Speaker 1: next few weeks that that is just a small little moment.
- 51:50Speaker 1: Really Okay, I think there's some crazy things going to happen,
- 51:53Speaker 1: and I think her talking to Luke about this is
- 51:56Speaker 1: something that will watch with intrigue and it will ultimately
- 51:59Speaker 1: be a big moment, but it will just be a
- 52:00Speaker 1: moment and it won't be a storyline. Okay, well, there
- 52:03Speaker 1: is that hole he comes back with the ring thing.
- 52:06Speaker 1: That's something we've kind of forgotten about. There's a lot
- 52:09Speaker 1: to do and a lot to go on, and we're
- 52:11Speaker 1: we're just really getting into it. We have weeks left. Um,
- 52:15Speaker 1: so okay, finally I want to touch once again. Hannah
- 52:19Speaker 1: sent some tweets out last night that were controversial that
- 52:22Speaker 1: people seem to be uh maybe criticizing or judging or
- 52:26Speaker 1: also celebrating. Are you a fan of this? Did any
- 52:28Speaker 1: of them rub you the wrong way? Uh? Do you
- 52:31Speaker 1: want her to continue this? Or she should she stay
- 52:33Speaker 1: off of social media until the end of the season.
- 52:35Speaker 1: Should we go through these? So she quoted Trains two
- 52:39Speaker 1: thousand one hit drops of Jupiter last night, and she
- 52:43Speaker 1: tweeted back from the atmosphere now drops of Jupiter in
- 52:47Speaker 1: her hair, alongside a photo of them in the ocean,
- 52:51Speaker 1: her and Tyler. So she's looking upon Tyler still highly
- 53:00Speaker 1: possibly nostalgic romantically. You do you confirm? Yeah, I do confirm.
- 53:07Speaker 1: I mean I think I don't think it points me
- 53:10Speaker 1: to if they're together or not. But I just think
- 53:12Speaker 1: there's a lot of After reading through all the texts
- 53:14Speaker 1: or tweets on each one of the people, it feels
- 53:17Speaker 1: like you can tell definitely who she's in favor of
- 53:19Speaker 1: and who she's not. And she's definitely in favor of Tyler. Yeah,
- 53:22Speaker 1: so even if they don't end up together, she's still
- 53:24Speaker 1: like a fan. Yes, definitely, and and h Tyler has
- 53:28Speaker 1: also tweeted very kind things about Hannah as well in
- 53:31Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks. I think it's going to
- 53:34Speaker 1: be one of those scenarios that you, even if they're
- 53:36Speaker 1: not together, which I wouldn't be surprised that they are,
- 53:38Speaker 1: there's a lot of respect and that this will ultimately
- 53:41Speaker 1: come down to them sitting at after the final rows
- 53:43Speaker 1: or mentel all or whatever, either madly in love or
- 53:46Speaker 1: just like super positive about each other. Yeah, totally. And
- 53:50Speaker 1: then she tweeted during her dates with Luke and and
- 53:55Speaker 1: uh jed god bless this mess. Huh again, I don't think.
- 54:03Speaker 1: I don't think that points is to thinking that she's
- 54:05Speaker 1: with either of them. That's my read on that, right,
- 54:08Speaker 1: I mean, public, what do you think let us know
- 54:10Speaker 1: through Twitter or through email? But these tweets seem to
- 54:13Speaker 1: be pointing that she's if she's saying, god, bus is mess,
- 54:17Speaker 1: Like I don't think she's with le Jet or Luke,
- 54:19Speaker 1: but maybe she is. But I mean, like, I guess
- 54:22Speaker 1: it's just gonna be like all of our own families
- 54:23Speaker 1: just a mess, are they is? And it always well
- 54:26Speaker 1: not really not with me and probably not with you.
- 54:29Speaker 1: You get along with Just's family and yeah, this is
- 54:32Speaker 1: not mess rust either, So our biggest mess is like,
- 54:36Speaker 1: you know, how good of a time can we have
- 54:38Speaker 1: and if like baseball is on and how are we
- 54:40Speaker 1: gonna fit that into the dinner? So like, no, I
- 54:43Speaker 1: get along grade with her family, and I'm sure there's
- 54:45Speaker 1: gonna be moments where like, oh, we need a break.
- 54:48Speaker 1: I mean, just just in it's been a week with
- 54:50Speaker 1: my parents and she left and she's like that was awesome.
- 54:52Speaker 1: Now I'm guaranteeing there's moments where she was like, I
- 54:55Speaker 1: need to get out of this house. This is crazy.
- 54:57Speaker 1: But for the most part, we got along fine. So
- 55:00Speaker 1: I don't know. Ashley listeners out there, please go back
- 55:03Speaker 1: through read this article. Um, it's just shows the tweets
- 55:08Speaker 1: that Hannah was sending. It seems to be pointing in
- 55:10Speaker 1: the direction of Tyler and Pete being oh my god,
- 55:13Speaker 1: oh my god. All right, there's another two. We have
- 55:15Speaker 1: to read what she said during the Georgia date, which
- 55:18Speaker 1: was with Luke. She goes, uh, I was on Med's,
- 55:21Speaker 1: I was sick. I went to urgent care. I do
- 55:24Speaker 1: not know the things I said while in Georgia. So
- 55:27Speaker 1: she did say about Luke in her interview I'm in
- 55:31Speaker 1: love with Luke, or she said I love Luke, and
- 55:34Speaker 1: she was I mean, I'm falling in love with Luke.
- 55:36Speaker 1: So she obviously is saying like I was totally incoherent
- 55:40Speaker 1: when I said that. Oh no, that's not good for anybody.
- 55:43Speaker 1: But here's my question. This brings up a new topic.
- 55:46Speaker 1: How I cannot wait to talk to Hannah. It's gonna
- 55:49Speaker 1: be one of my first questions. How often was she
- 55:51Speaker 1: sick on this show? Sick like almost every week. The
- 55:54Speaker 1: poor girl's got like a constant flu. She's still looking great.
- 55:58Speaker 1: There was another perpetic thing she posts it on Instagram
- 56:01Speaker 1: that I think is now gone. It was her at
- 56:05Speaker 1: the Dodgers game and she said something and it was
- 56:08Speaker 1: the day that the Jet news broke. But it looks deleted.
- 56:12Speaker 1: Now interesting, I'm going to type that in right now. Okay,
- 56:16Speaker 1: while you do that. While you do that, keep talking
- 56:18Speaker 1: while I do that, Keep talking while you do that. Actually,
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- 57:26Speaker 1: Our sponsors keep this thing going. But Ashley, before break
- 57:30Speaker 1: was talking about how there's a cryptic Instagram message that
- 57:34Speaker 1: Hannah has sent out that has now been deleted, we think,
- 57:37Speaker 1: but she's found it, Ashley tell our listeners. Yeah, so
- 57:42Speaker 1: she has deleted it. I think looking at her profile.
- 57:46Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, when the Jed thing came out,
- 57:49Speaker 1: Hannah posted a picture of her throwing the first pitch
- 57:51Speaker 1: out at a Dodgers game, and the caption read throwing
- 57:56Speaker 1: out pitches snitches, referring to possibly Lindsay Jed's X as
- 58:04Speaker 1: a snitch. Oh, throwing out pitches snitches the day of
- 58:12Speaker 1: I do gotta give Hannah credit that if she is
- 58:15Speaker 1: really cryptically writing these messages, she does a pretty freaking
- 58:18Speaker 1: good job at it. Yeah. She Her tweets are really funny.
- 58:23Speaker 1: They're super cryptic. They're hard to understand sometimes, but if
- 58:26Speaker 1: you read through them, you're like, I get it, Like
- 58:28Speaker 1: girl smart, she's getting it. Um. Speaking of Jed, we've
- 58:32Speaker 1: got to jump in here. Uh we're runningut of time,
- 58:34Speaker 1: but we've got to talk about Jed's hometown. I think
- 58:37Speaker 1: it was a train wreck. I don't think it makes
- 58:39Speaker 1: any sense, uh, the Jed. And again I say all this, Ashley,
- 58:43Speaker 1: because I unfortunately I've dismissed Jed from the show because
- 58:47Speaker 1: of what we found out about him. I also don't
- 58:49Speaker 1: love that his ex girlfriend has gone on every single
- 58:53Speaker 1: it feels like podcast or talk show out there to
- 58:55Speaker 1: discuss this thing. It no longer makes this thing feel
- 58:58Speaker 1: like an organic like situation. Just feels like there's a
- 59:01Speaker 1: story to be told and she's telling it. But I'm
- 59:04Speaker 1: not a fan that Jed did this whole thing. I
- 59:06Speaker 1: don't know the back story. We've never talked to Jet
- 59:07Speaker 1: and hopefully you get him on the podcast soon to
- 59:09Speaker 1: get to the bottom of it. But once again, music
- 59:13Speaker 1: is a part of his date. We've never seen anything
- 59:16Speaker 1: like this before. What's your thoughts. It's so bizarre, how
- 59:20Speaker 1: like he's admitted that it came on to promote his career,
- 59:24Speaker 1: and like we've said before, we've never seen any other
- 59:27Speaker 1: musician gets so much music screen time. I that that
- 59:33Speaker 1: being said, I mean, I think it was super it
- 59:35Speaker 1: was super crazy. It's super crazy that the hometown was
- 59:40Speaker 1: them writing a song in a studio and then they
- 59:42Speaker 1: went to the family in which like they literally were like,
- 59:47Speaker 1: we're more supportive of his music career than we are
- 59:50Speaker 1: with his relationship, possibly with you. But but I have
- 59:54Speaker 1: to say that it was a very genuine moment. When
- 59:57Speaker 1: they were at the mic singing the song together her,
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I feel this. This feels really genuine.
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: I feel like maybe he fell in love with her.
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: So then I'm sitting on the couch and I'm like, Jared,
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: I think he does love her, and this is like
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: all just too bad. And then he goes, doesn't matter,
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: and I go, well, yeah, of course it matters. It
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: makes me feel good that he you know, that he
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: genuinely did end up falling for her, totally unexpectedly. But
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: he goes, but in the end, doesn't matter, and I
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: go like, yes, not because although it makes me feel
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: better about his character, at the end of the day,
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: he's not somebody that maybe it doesn't make me feel
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: better about his character, but it makes me just feel
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: It makes me, like have feel good that he got
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: tricked in damn it. What is the words here? What
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: are the words here? He got? I like the way
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: that the process he the process worked for him him,
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: and like was like, ha ha, jokes on you. It
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: worked and you never even thought it was a possibility.
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: That's what I like. He got what he had coming
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: for him, Like he went into this whole thing saying
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: I'm not here to be famous. He says that up front,
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: and he almost tries to get ahead of the game
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: by saying, oh, I wasn't here or it came to
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: be famous and I fell in love. And so he's
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: helping like the fuse the argument that he ultimately knows
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: will come down the line later. And then we kind
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: of all believe him. I remember it, We all believe
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: they were like, that's kind of cool that he did that,
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: and we get it. And then at the very end
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: it turns back on him and it blows back up
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: in his face. So thank you, yes, jokes on him.
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: That's what I kind of like about it. But then
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: when Jared was like, what doesn't matter at the end
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: of the day, and I'm like, I guess you're right.
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: I guess it doesn't because you can't be in a
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: relationship with somebody that you can't trust, no matter how
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: much you love them, because trust is such a crucial
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: part of a relationship. And Hannah, when she finds this
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: this news out about the girlfriend, I don't think he's
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: ever going to be able to fully trust him. It's
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: it's a. Really, it's gonna be really interesting how this
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: whole thing ends. But I think one telling factor was
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: how his family treated Hannah on the hometown date. I
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: would have been so turned off and I would have
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: had a conversation with him after that hometown date. Yeah,
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like they wanted to, but they
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: didn't want to throw them under the bus on national television.
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: They felt like I felt like they were being like
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: tongue in cheek the whole time, wanting to tell him, Hey,
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: what's going on here, while at the same time not
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: saying anything because they knew it would make him look
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: like an idiot. And I think he was probably sitting
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: there the whole time, nervous, going I know what there's
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: going through their head. I want to tell them. I'm
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: trying to like cryptically tell them that everything's fine and
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: that I have this under control. But at the same time,
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: I bet they're freaking out because now I'm bringing a
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: girl home, saying him in love with her, and we're
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: going off to hometown or fantasy suites together. So you
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: you do think that they were acting so rudely bizarrely
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: because they were like, what the heck is going on
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: here and like in some way maybe they were trying
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: to deter Hannah from picking him. Yeah yeah, definitely good
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: for them too, Yeah yeah, I wish they would have
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: done it in a way that didn't seem so offensive
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: towards Hannah. They seem to like really bel the mom
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: and the sister. Especially the mom really seemed to belittle
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: and demean the process of the Bachelor at And it's
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: just so ironic that she said, I'm sure you're saying
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: I love you to all these guys and Hannah was like, no, no,
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: I really haven't. And then she's the one who has
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: the son who said I love you to another girl
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: right before going on the show. Mm hmm, how wild
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: is that? Right? So crazy? Well, I gotta respect the parents,
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: and I know people are giving the parents a little
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: grief last night. Yes, we think about the situation there
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: in Ashley, like we need to understand the place that
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: they're getting in. Their son comes home with a woman
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: who he has had a girlfriend two months before. They're
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: not only angry with him, they're confused by the show.
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: The show's invading their house. He's telling him he loves there,
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: Like they're probably really confused and they just want to
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: They're gonna be distant, they're gonna be a little bit angry.
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: They're gonna say things that probably don't make sense because
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: nothing that's happening in their own household is making sense
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: right now to them. Okay, can be upset with it.
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: We should say that Lindsay in her many interviews, has
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: said that she didn't meet the family, So that would,
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: you know, contribute to the confusion. Uh, you know what
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: the heck is going on with with this? We just
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: met a girl that you said that you love, and
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: you said that you were just leaving for career reasons
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: and all that. But I'm just some super confused by
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: why they would put so much sass towards Hannah because
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: the mom's eyes, like the mom and the sister's eyes
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: just had so much coldness to them. Why didn't we
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: see conversations between the mom and the sister with Jed
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: and them giving sass to Jed And why would they
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: be cold towards Hannah's on Hannah's issue as Jed's issue.
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: So even like as a loving parent, you're still gonna
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: be like, there's some this is this is wrong, You're
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: doing something wrong. Hannah's not doing anything wrong. Yeah, but
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: I gotta think about my parents in this situation where
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: I know if my parents had something like this happening,
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: they would be so thrown off and their attitudes would
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: have been so negative and confused that their whole persona
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: would have been cold to everybody. Yeah, there's no like
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: turning it on or off with my parents, right if
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: you're if if something's happened that's turned them off, they're
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: gonna be turned off to everybody, like at least for
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: that period of time. And it's in their own home,
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: so they're not able to get away and like take
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: t tende breasts to like regroup. This is all happening
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: to them at once, and I wouldn't be surprised because
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: they don't understand the whole situation. If they're grouping Hannah
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: in with this whole experience and they're not able to
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: compartmentalize them and say, oh, Hannah really has nothing to
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: do with this. I wonder if they're thinking, oh, Hannah
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: knows all about this, like what what I mean? I
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: bet they want to ask you the question, does Hannah
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: know about Lindsey? But they didn't because they're smart enough
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: to say, wait, that could be bad if she doesn't.
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: But what if she does and she's good with it,
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: then we're angry at everybody here. Yeah, part of me
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: was wondering whether or not they were like, this is
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: just a show, Like this is all just for show.
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: She's in it because it's a show, and he's in
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: it a show. And I don't even know why they're
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: saying these like love things, like they probably think of
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: the show completely unromantically. Definitely, Yeah, they think it's just
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: a show. And it's unfair a little bit to any
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: family that gets involved in this thing because they didn't
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: sign up for it. They're not prepared for all of
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, fifty people show up to your house.
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: They start moving furniture around, they start putting in cameras.
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: You know, all this stuff is going on. You're sitting
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: in your living room talking about, you know, your son
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: in a way that you've never talked about him before,
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, everybody shows up and
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: and the fun begin ends. It's unfair to every family
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: that ever has to do it. Some do it better
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: than others, some like it more than others. But at
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: the end of the day. It's not fair to any family.
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: It's just not It's not an enjoyable experience, and this
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: family was definitely the ones that had the most writing
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: on it. They had a lot, a lot to process
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: in a very short period of time. I think it's
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: very unfair for any viewer to criticize Jed's family, or
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: really any family during this experience because it's hard to process.
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: You can't process it, especially if you have a son
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: who's making it harder on you to process. Like for me,
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: when I sat down my parents, I gave him a rundown.
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: I said, Hey, this is how I need you to
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: act right now, Like I need you to be welcoming, graceful.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: When you're confused, know that it will be sorted out
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: or asked me. But don't over analyze any of this stuff.
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: Just make sure that you're getting to know these women
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: the best way possible. Jed sat down and was like,
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: I'm all in love with girl, this girl. They're like,
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: you just told us that a month and a half
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: ago with Lindsay, Like what happened? Do you think that
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: that's why? They were like it's a musicians lifestyle, like
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: they kept talking about like he's a musician, he's not
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: ready to settle down. Do we think that it's just
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: because like he likes to just hang out with a
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: lot of girls, or do we think that they actually
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: want they actually think that he can't focus on his
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: career with the relationship. Time out is jed making money? Well,
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: we know what the People articles said. They said that
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: the dad was paying for part of his rent every month.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: They also said that he had a zillion side hustles,
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: which means that he's probably like, well, we actually know
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: that he performs sort of like not a strip club
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: in like in Nashville, but like a shirtless club. Yeah,
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: so like we can't say this is a musician's lifestyle, Like,
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: well it's not. Let's not group him in with musicians
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: that we think, I I know some really good musicians.
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: It's a struggling musicians lifestyle. Struggling and struggling musicians lifestyle.
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: He's not ready for to settle down because of his career.
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: Fair well, I mean, let's lay it on the table.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: He doesn't make money being a musician. The People article
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: says that his dad's paying for his rent. Uh. He
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: he doesn't have a consistent album out like as a result,
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: we we could we could definitely point to you're not
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: probably ready to settle down in a committed relationship. I
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: think that's great. But do you think it's weird? Do
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: you think it's weird that, like, um, they made it
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: seem like they were putting his music career before him
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: finding love. Uh No, I mean because it's what he's
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: pointed to, wanting Tom want what he wants. Like they're
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: going off of what they knew about Jed when he
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: left for the show. When he left for the show,
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: his main concern with his career, um, And so they're
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: trying to get behind and support that. So I don't
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: think it's I don't think it's a family's place to
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: prioritize the kids. Uh you know, desires or there once,
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: but it is their their place to hopefully support those.
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: And so they're just saying, Jed, when you left, you
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: said you want to be a musician, and you left,
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: you said this is gonna be good for your career. Hey, Jed,
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: That's what we got behind and supported because when you're
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: questioning your motives and saying, hey, is this a good idea?
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: You have a girlfriend and you said, hey, it's just
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: for my career. That's what we got behind and supported,
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: and now you're saying you're in love. I don't get it.
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: I just had a thought perhaps this was the family's way,
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: because remember how Jed said that he was going to
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: go on and then like he would make it too
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: hopefully five or four, and then he'd have a great
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: platform for having a career. But he didn't intend to
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: go all the way. Yea, So maybe this was the
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: family's way of trying to get him out of the
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: relationship and being like, Okay, he's made it far enough,
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: now let's back out. That was the plan that he
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: was going to back out. There's so much here, Ashley,
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. There's so much here from
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: these hometowns that we can take away. For the first
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: time in a few seasons, I feel like the hometowns
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: are really pointing to what the next few episodes could
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: look like in wood Luck, Like, one interesting email we
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: got from a listener to Laney says, promos that are
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: ruining this season. I want to talk about the social
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: media promos. I'm starting to feel like when Hannah and
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: Chris Harrison promote the episodes, they basically tell us where
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: they're going, who's going? The dates, and where the dates
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: are are? The only things left out seemed to be
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: who was sent home? I know they want to promote
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: the show, but does anyone else miss the days where
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: everything was a surprise and we didn't even know what
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: the country they're going to. Maybe they're trying to keep
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: up with reality, Steve, I do think that's a possibility.
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: I also think, um that, pointing back to our final
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: conversation about Jed, is there so much going to happen
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: this season that they haven't really ruined anything? Okay? I
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: really believe that. Um, actually I believe you if you
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: that's what you say. Final thoughts. We broke down each
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: each hometown. Uh, Peters was pretty normal, really good, really healthy.
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: Tyler's was emotional, We got to know him better, We
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: enjoyed it. It left well. Luke's was still a little confusing.
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: It was his best week by far. He was more
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: likable than he wasn't. But there's still things that we
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: don't know about Luke that we will get to know
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: very soon. And I'm sure, I'm sure we'll get to
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: know a lot about Luke's own personal feelings and values
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: in the next following weeks, and finally, Jed is just one.
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: It's hard for us to process. I mean, how are
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: we going to process a guy that we know how
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: to girlfriend leading up to the show. How are we
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: gonna even at any level enjoy any sweet nothings? He
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: says or sings to Hannah and his family. Let's take
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: let's give him a break, Like I totally get it.
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: Let's let's not put them, uh responsible for the terrible
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: decisions that Jed has made leading up to this experience, Ashley,
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: after this week, Uh, can you rank these four guys
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: and then tell us who your favorite for next Bachelor is?
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: Tyler Peter? I don't know that's right. Everybody stayed because
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: she was like Tyler Peter. Yeah, I don't know. Well,
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: let's talk about that that rose ceremony really quickly. How
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: did you feel about her? Um, just deciding to take
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: everyone to Fantasy Sweets. I thought it was a great idea.
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: I think that Fantasy Sweet Sweeks is usually the week
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: that you learned the most about somebody. Alone time is
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: really critical, as we've talked about before on this podcast
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: many times. And Um, I feel like if she really
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: is so torn, I feel like they should never have
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: to eliminate somebody. If, like she said, she didn't feel
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: like the relationship would have been complete, she would have
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: been left wondering what if. And I think that what
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: we should do in life is eliminated as many what
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: ifs as possible. Yeah, I agree, and I think it's fair.
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: I'm not mad at her at all for keeping people around.
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: I think it's it's gets it. There's too much confusion still, uh,
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: Jed's hometown date was so confused to her that she
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: was like, wait, I love this guy. Like this guy.
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: I was falling in love with him, and now I'm confused.
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: Luke's was like, I kind of liked him more after
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: going to his hometown, and yet this guy has been
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: a puzzle piece the whole time that I just can't crack.
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: And the other two or like, of course they're gonna
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: be around. I like them both, So no, I think
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: it's fair keep him around. It just makes it more fun. Uh.
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: In the following weeks of Fantasy speaking, but what about
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: the inner the moment that we saw Jed react to
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: the fact that he was so torn that she was
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: so torn in that moment, like he didn't respond very well.
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: He was like, oh, she's she's putting me and Luke
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: on the same ranking. Right now, it makes sense to me.
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: I mean I see it from an outsider's perspective. I
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: don't know how he was feeling internally, but I'm looking
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: at as as a viewer, going, yeah, they're definitely on
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: the same ranking. We're both just confused by him, like
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: we just don't even know anymore. So but that I
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: don't find him getting upset. Do you think that. I
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: feel like, honestly, they that was a move because they
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: knew that Jed would be the most sensitive about that.
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: I don't think the family turned hand off that much.
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: I think they knew that Tyler and Pete kind of
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: they've been so even killed, calm and coolheaded the entire time.
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: If they were going to get a reaction from someone,
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: it would have been Jed against U. Yeah. Like, I
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: feel like, truly Jed belongs with the other three, and
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: like the only the one that would have been eliminated
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: in that moment would have been Luke. I don't think
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: they're in the same category in Hannah's head. The good
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: part is now for next week that none of them
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: will interact and so we'll see all three of them,
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: four of them separately. Uh, Jed just got has to
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: get over himself and move on. And I think fantasy
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: suitets will be telling to see where their relationships stand.
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: I don't know at this point. As I said, I'm
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: kind of like Jed's family. I feel like I'm just
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: confused at what's happening, Like how has he gone this far?
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: Keeping playing music the whole time, and at the same
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: time of all of it, he has a girl back home.
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: I don't know how to process this. And then with Luke,
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: Luke has been a mystery of the whole season. We
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: were talking four weeks ago about why he's still around. Yeah,
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: he's still around. And now we're finally saying we're at
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: some time point saying it kind of makes sense like
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: she's still interested and intrigued. The next few weeks. Actually,
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: I'm pumped for Uh, we're gonna continue breaking down. We're
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: not thinking any more weeks off until this whole thing
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: is done. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if we
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: pump out, you know, two episodes at some point, just
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: because it's so much fun to talk. I think we
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: do have two episodes coming up, I think an extra bonus.
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: That's right, as ash Um, you're the best. What a
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: great week for Bachelor Nation, What a great week for hometowns? Uh?
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: In your opinion? Uh, who's the next Bachelor? I mean
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: I would hope that who I want to be the
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: next bachelor Hannah ends up with, which would be Tyler, Okay,
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: but I also like he's my choice for bachelor, and
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: he's my choice for Hannah. I think Tyler is probably
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: most people's choice for the next Bachelor, but I also
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: think he might be with Hannah. But um, I feel
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: like the an ideal world would probably be Hannah ends
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: up with Tyler and then Peter becomes the bachelor. Ashley,
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: I hope that for the rest of your life you
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: can live in your own ideal world. That's what I hope.
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: That's what I hope for all of our listeners. Hey,
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: it's been a great week. It's been a great episode
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- 1:17:12Speaker 1: last week. We needed it. I've been been, I've been
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