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Buying Beverly Hills, Ozempic Babies, Real Housewives with Evan Real · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: the fun. New episode every Friday. All right, let's get
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  Speaker 1: into it. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. We are
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  Speaker 1: going to get into so many juicy topics because I
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  Speaker 1: have Evan Real here, senior editor of Page Six, always
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  Speaker 1: on the red carpet, always getting the scoop for me
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  Speaker 1: because I do a lot of Page Six articles. Also,
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  Speaker 1: you have your own podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Virtual Reality that I co-host with Danny Murphy. And
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  Speaker 3: you've been on our podcast before and we had the
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  Speaker 3: absolute best time.
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  Speaker 1: Danny couldn't be here, but you guys will come back
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  Speaker 1: when he's in town. And so let's Just get into it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The sad news about Kate Middleton. So I, we all
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  Speaker 1: talked about where is she? The theory started. People were concerned.
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  Speaker 1: There were, you know, is it, you know, is she
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  Speaker 1: so upset because there was infidelity with William? Is there
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  Speaker 1: something else? Was she getting plastic surgery? Is she with
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  Speaker 1: Shelly Miscavige? Is she on the Masked Singer? Like everybody
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  Speaker 1: was saying everything. And I mean, in my covering of it,
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  Speaker 1: I always said, I think it's that she had a
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  Speaker 1: surgery happen and it either is taking longer to recover
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  Speaker 1: and maybe she's milking it out for her own mental
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  Speaker 1: health and just deserving it. Or maybe it got, there
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  Speaker 1: was a complication. And apparently that's what she is basically
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  Speaker 1: saying is she had a planned operation and then they
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  Speaker 1: discovered there's cancer and now she's getting chemo, correct?
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah. And I love that Megan King of all
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  Speaker 3: people was on the case and her psychic, she hired
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  Speaker 3: a psychic to figure out what was going on. And
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  Speaker 3: her psychic said, this is what happened that there was
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  Speaker 3: some sort of like exactly what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: Am I the psychic too? Because I said it without,
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  Speaker 1: I saw it without the psychic. I know a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people said it though. A lot of people thought
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of people thought there might be a
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  Speaker 1: colostomy bag, which then would be something that you wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: want to be walking out and about. So here's my question.
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  Speaker 1: No one wants to say anything. I mean, we all
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  Speaker 1: want the best for her. I definitely believe this is
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  Speaker 1: her talking. I don't think this is AI or anything,
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  Speaker 1: but the girl at the farmer's market, are we not
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about that? That still wasn't her. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like that was not her.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't believe.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know if it was him. I think
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  Speaker 1: it could have been two.
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  Speaker 3: People that are like a lookalike couple.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like a lookalike couple that are hired that were
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  Speaker 1: hired to do this.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know why the pals had. I feel
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  Speaker 3: like they made it weirder than it needed to be.
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  Speaker 3: Like also placing the blame on Kate for Photoshopping. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, but Kate was not recovering from her
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  Speaker 3: abdominal surgery slash cancer diagnosis by practicing on Adobe Photoshop. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: she was not doing that. So why put that blame
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  Speaker 3: on her? I thought it was so weird. And yes,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that couple was Kate and or William.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I, yeah, I think that they just made it
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  Speaker 3: weirder than it had to be. And then it ultimately
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  Speaker 3: forced poor Kate to sit here on a bench in
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  Speaker 3: her striped sweater and tell us all she had cancer
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  Speaker 3: when like, maybe this wasn't, like the, I feel like
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  Speaker 3: the palace only stoked speculation.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Like it forced us into like a mental tailspin because
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  Speaker 3: she is such a public facing person and she's always
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  Speaker 3: on about and shaking hands and kissing babies. And it's like,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like they just should have addressed this earlier.
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  Speaker 1: When you watch this disaster, are you like, should I
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  Speaker 1: apply to be the PR person for the royal family
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  Speaker 1: because anyone could do a better job? Literally, literally that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. Where is the LinkedIn link?
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  Speaker 1: I also saw a photo that at one time she
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  Speaker 1: wore this sweater before.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, so then are there weird theories around that? She
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  Speaker 3: re-wears stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, she re-wears, but you could also tell that
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  Speaker 1: like her hair is different or longer. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what the deal is with her hair. who,
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  Speaker 1: who cares? That's not, but I, I mean, it is
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  Speaker 1: a really sad time when you think about, okay, now
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  Speaker 1: where does this leave Harry? Now his sister-in-law is going
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  Speaker 1: through a lot. And, and then of course his dad
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  Speaker 1: has cancer. And then, um, this was kind of weird.
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  Speaker 1: So Kate Middleton's uncle went on some show like a
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  Speaker 1: week or two ago and was just like ripping on, um,
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  Speaker 1: Meghan Markle and calling her like the laughing girl and
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  Speaker 1: the laughing girl. And it's just so weird also when
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  Speaker 1: like some guy out of nowhere like gets like she
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  Speaker 1: must be like, why? Why is my uncle talking about
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  Speaker 1: my sister in law that we have and we're estranged?
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  Speaker 1: And then he apologized once he found out that his
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  Speaker 1: niece was sick. He was like, oh, maybe I shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have like gone on that podcast or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I feel like Meghan Markle.
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  Speaker 1: His name is Gary Goldsmith, is Kate Middleton's uncle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just so odd. I feel like poor Meghan
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  Speaker 3: and Kate just have like a host of weird troll-like
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  Speaker 3: family members just like hiding beneath a bridge, waiting to
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  Speaker 3: say something. But yeah, it just does not make the
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  Speaker 3: situation any better whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so there we go. I think a lot of people,
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  Speaker 1: you know... Felt like an asshole for their reporting on it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that I only just reported on the theories
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  Speaker 1: and my theory was correct. But I did report on
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  Speaker 1: the theories because I thought some of them were funny,
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  Speaker 1: like the BBL and the Masked Singer.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the BBL got me.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so Rebel Wilson. To remind people, Rebel Wilson is
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  Speaker 1: pitch perfect. She was the hilarious girl in Bridesmaids. The
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  Speaker 1: blonde girl, she's from Australia. She's now... married to her wife,
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  Speaker 1: they have a daughter, and she's coming out with her memoir,
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  Speaker 1: and she said, there's an asshole, I'm going to tell
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  Speaker 1: who the asshole is, and then she did another post,
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  Speaker 1: and she's like, the asshole is Sacha Baron Cohen, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be silenced by PR people and lawyers,
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  Speaker 1: which makes us think, in hinting that there's an asshole
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  Speaker 1: coming in her book that's coming out soon, did his people...
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  Speaker 1: reach out to her people somehow and be like, you
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  Speaker 1: better watch it or what?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And now Sasha, I think he's come out to
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  Speaker 3: like very strongly deny this.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know what's what, but I'm interested to
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  Speaker 3: like read about it in the memoir.
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  Speaker 1: So if this was a, it's a great way to
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  Speaker 1: get people to want to read it, you know, but like, I,
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  Speaker 1: I do think the thing about these memoirs now, and
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  Speaker 1: I've said this before that are kind of a bummer
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  Speaker 1: is they come out on a Tuesday and And by, like, Wednesday... We.
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  Speaker 3: Know the whole.
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  Speaker 1: We know everything from, like, you know, people doing their
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  Speaker 1: own reporting and book reports to... So you better have
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  Speaker 1: more in it that you really love the way someone
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  Speaker 1: tells a story or something because it can't just be...
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  Speaker 1: And what it says is that she, I guess, said
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  Speaker 1: in some other interview while they were doing this movie,
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  Speaker 1: The Grimsley's Gentleman... I've never even heard of the movie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, same.
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  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 1: That he was like, oh, I think it would be
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  Speaker 1: really funny if I bent over and you stuck your
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  Speaker 1: finger in my, like, bare asshole. And then she was like, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: And she never did it.
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  Speaker 3: So she meant like a literal asshole. Like that is,
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  Speaker 3: that is, that is weird. I wouldn't even like chalk
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  Speaker 3: that up to like just being a massive asshole. That's
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  Speaker 3: like almost like in 2024 terms, like that's kind of
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  Speaker 3: like sexual harassment.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it was like five years ago, but then he,
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  Speaker 1: his response is, you know, there are, there's videos, there's interviews,
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  Speaker 1: there's everything to prove that this isn't it. Like I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't like that. Other people are like, I could see
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  Speaker 1: that happening. I feel like everybody is just, at this point,
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  Speaker 1: they have to have a tell, a story about someone,
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  Speaker 1: whether you're a waitress doing a TikTok or was in
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  Speaker 1: an elevator with someone or you went on a bad
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  Speaker 1: date with a guy that maybe never called you back. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he was a narcissistic, you know, ghosted you,
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  Speaker 1: was grooming you and you were 30 and he was 30. Like, there's,
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  Speaker 1: everyone feels like some of these stories, I have to say,
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  Speaker 1: could be a bit of a stretch. You know, like,
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  Speaker 1: There's one thing to really tell about like a real situation.
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  Speaker 1: But hey, you know, books, a lot of people don't
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  Speaker 1: buy books. So she's got to sell some books. And
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  Speaker 1: if he was a real dick and rude... sure tell
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  Speaker 1: it it's her story to tell.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah very true but that is such a good point
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  Speaker 3: you make about these books coming out Tuesday yeah you
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  Speaker 3: know everything by Wednesday I feel like and I'm someone
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  Speaker 3: who likes like I I'm so bad I only watch
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  Speaker 3: reality TV and I only read celebrity memoirs like that's
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  Speaker 3: like just how I am as a person, but I
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  Speaker 3: have- Well, I am too, basically. I have been picking
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  Speaker 3: up less and less celebrity memoirs because I do feel
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  Speaker 3: like I know every chapter from all the headlines. So
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  Speaker 3: we need to.
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  Speaker 1: And it's kind of a bummer because I did read
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  Speaker 1: the whole Paris Hilton one and I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: really good. I liked it, read it on plane. I
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  Speaker 1: read the whole Britney one. I liked it. And I
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  Speaker 1: still heard all the stuff. But someone just summarizing something
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  Speaker 1: of like, oh, Justin Timberlake, did this happen?
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: It's very different than when I read it. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute. I interpreted that story as him actually
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  Speaker 1: being there for her.
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  Speaker 3: When you read Britney's version.
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  Speaker 1: When I read the Britney version, I did not think
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  Speaker 1: he came off horribly. It was like they were two teenagers.
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  Speaker 1: There was a pregnancy that was unexpected and not planned.
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  Speaker 1: And then some people were like, and then he sat
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  Speaker 1: there and he's like, would you like me to play
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  Speaker 1: my guitar? And, you know, someone could, if you just
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  Speaker 1: see it like that, It's like, oh, my God, he's
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  Speaker 1: making about him and he's such a dick and she's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in pain physically and emotionally. And I was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I think he was like, I'm going to be here
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  Speaker 1: with you. And like, I don't know, would this be distract?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe this will help distract you. That's how I saw
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  Speaker 1: it when I read it.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Like 20 year old Justin was like doing the
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  Speaker 3: best he could with what he had at the time.
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  Speaker 3: I can see that. And I also feel like the
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  Speaker 3: headlines around Britney's memoir were so much more they were harsher.
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  Speaker 3: then the grace she actually extended to the people who, like,
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  Speaker 3: wronged her. Because I feel like, like, for Justin, like,
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  Speaker 3: even though she said what she said about Justin, like,
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  Speaker 3: she clearly did love him and that really came through
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  Speaker 3: in the writing. And then even, like, same for Jamie
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  Speaker 3: Lynn Spears. And we know that she does not F
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  Speaker 3: with Jamie Lynn Spears. But then towards the end of
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  Speaker 3: the book, she's like, that's my sister. Maybe I should, like,
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  Speaker 3: think about her differently and be nicer. And, like, maybe
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  Speaker 3: one day we'll be friends again. Like, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like Britney's, like, kinder than the headlines we saw.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think's going on with Britney now? Because
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: I feel like like anything, people are caring less and less. Like, okay,
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: here's another outfit. Here's another brown sensible pump. Here's another
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  Speaker 1: spin around. Here's another naked photo. And I think with
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: the book and everything, we thought maybe there would be
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  Speaker 1: something else to come, like creatively, like either music or
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  Speaker 1: some other type of content. And it's not. And I
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  Speaker 1: just think, Like she's not, I always check her numbers
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  Speaker 1: cause it's like, but she's just at, she's always, maybe
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  Speaker 1: she's lost a little bit cause people are just like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to see it anymore. But it's still
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  Speaker 1: like at the 40 million. Like it doesn't, it hasn't,
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  Speaker 1: she didn't lose 10 million. She didn't gain 10 million.
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  Speaker 1: It's just kind of like there.
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  Speaker 3: Right. I think with Brittany and like, I am a
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  Speaker 3: massive Brittany fan. Like she is like my heart, soul
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  Speaker 3: and spirit. I think, I think she's like still obviously
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  Speaker 3: still healing. I feel like she went through 13 years
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  Speaker 3: of abuse and like, this is just like, her process. Like,
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  Speaker 3: she's going to be spinning in her living room for
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  Speaker 3: years to come because that's, like, she doesn't trust doctors,
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  Speaker 3: so she's not going to go to therapy. I feel
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  Speaker 3: like she feels so burned by the music industry that
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  Speaker 3: she doesn't want to make anything else. There was that
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  Speaker 3: whole report about, like, how her team was assembling, like,
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  Speaker 3: writers and producers for another album. And then, like, after
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  Speaker 3: that came out, she went on Instagram and was like,
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  Speaker 3: I am not returning to music. So it seems like
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  Speaker 3: there's still even, like, inner struggles in the camp that
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  Speaker 3: she does have around her because like they're like, Brittany,
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  Speaker 3: you should like really like work on the music. And
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  Speaker 3: she's like, fuck that. So I, I don't know, as
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  Speaker 3: a Brittany fan, it makes me so sad because it
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  Speaker 3: did kind of feel like the book was this like
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  Speaker 3: crescendo and that we were going to get like at
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  Speaker 3: least a single or something after that. And then we didn't,
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  Speaker 3: but I kind of like can't blame her for like
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  Speaker 3: just not wanting to work because she worked so hard
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  Speaker 3: for so many years and what did she get out
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  Speaker 3: of it to, kids who don't talk to her who
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  Speaker 3: live in Hawaii. And, like, the reason– I truly feel
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  Speaker 3: like the reason– The saddest part. The saddest part because, like,
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  Speaker 3: she put up with all the bullshit literally for the
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  Speaker 3: kids and for what? Now they don't talk to her
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  Speaker 3: and they live miles and miles away. I just– I
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  Speaker 3: feel so sad for her.
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  Speaker 1: But also I also can understand how hard it must
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  Speaker 1: be to be her sons.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, like, I see, you know, both sides of it.
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  Speaker 1: But also, yeah, when I watched– I watched Bet on Blonde,
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  Speaker 1: which I really liked with Erica, and I told her that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like watching this thing, and I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. There's no way Brittany can ever do this again,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, unless she really went into therapy for
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  Speaker 1: like a couple years and really wanted it. And even then, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe just she may never want to have that kind
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: of pressure of performing. And unless she does put on
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  Speaker 1: a show that's better than her last show, why it'll,
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  Speaker 1: she'll be ripped apart.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And he, you know, so I, I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: we'll ever see it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 1: And I think she's happy going on the Instagram and
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  Speaker 1: getting that and seeing that, Oh, that video got this
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  Speaker 1: many views and this many likes she's taken off the
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  Speaker 1: comments for her. That might just be just enough performing
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  Speaker 1: for her. That makes her feel like I'm, I'm having
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  Speaker 1: a creative outlet. I got to put on this outfit.
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  Speaker 1: I got to dance to my favorite song.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: I got, you know, whatever, 400,000 views and 30,000 likes.
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  Speaker 1: And that makes me feel good. And now I can
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  Speaker 1: go to the next day.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Wait, speaking of Erica. Yeah. I saw you
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: at the direct TV Oscars party a few weeks back
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: and you were in the booth with Erica. I was
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: at the bar getting a drink. I don't know what
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: you guys were chatting about, but right when you left,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: I had to like swoop in and talk to her.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Erica and I had beef. like we had like secret
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: beef that I, that I suspect.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Why did you have secret beef?
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: I just like need an outlet to talk to someone
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: about this.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Well, this is the outlet. This is juicy. What is
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: the outlet?
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: So basically, I mean, what's the story? I, I love
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: Erica Jane. Like I was, I love pop music. And
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: so I knew about Erica Jane before housewives. Like I
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: was into the music. And when I was like a
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: little baby gay in New York city, going to college,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: She performed at this gay nightclub called Splash. She was
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: opening for Kim Zolciak.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: I've been to Splash, by the way.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, love. So, you know, you get the vibe. So
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: she was literally opening for Kim Zolciak. It was like
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: the Don't Be Tardy era. I was like, not 21,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: but I was going to figure out a way to
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: go to the show. So I found a fake ID.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: I made it to the show. And I ended up
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: telling her that story when I got to interview her
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: for her big press day for Better All in Blonde.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I was so excited. In my Erika Jayne merch, like,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I'm like a real fan. And so we had this
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: wonderful conversation, and I think that she really liked connecting
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: and knowing about my fandom, etc. And then we did
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: a live show for virtual reality a few months later
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: in September. The residency was already in play, and Sutton
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: was doing our live show. And a fan in the
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: audience asked Sutton for her thoughts about the $ 7 tickets, allegedly.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: And Sutton made a joke about, like, are they $ 7?
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: I think they were $ 1. Does the whole room want
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: to go to the residency? I think I can cover it.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: And everyone had a good little giggle about it. And
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: then at BravoCon, Erica, like, she made it a point
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: to skip me and Danny on the carpet. And I
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: was like, do you know what? I bet you she's
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: upset about the Sutton thing. And so I just kind of, like,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: sat with that for a little bit. So then when
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I saw her at DirecTV, I was like, okay, I'm
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: just going to, like, see if this is what the
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: deal was. And, like, Immediately told her how much I
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: loved the Better All in Blonde docuseries. And then I
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: was like, and by the way, I'm really sorry about Sutton.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: And she was like, and that's why I skipped you
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: at BravoCon. That's why I skipped you at the DirecTV
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: party today. And basically what she told me is that
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: she was disappointed that me being such a fan, I
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: allowed space for Sutton to diss the show. And like
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: the show was so important to her when she was
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: like down so bad. And she was like, you know,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Sutton's at a different station in life where she can
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: like joke about my show and doesn't think twice about it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: But for me... Like, this was kind of, like, my
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: victory lap. And, like, after, you know, several very bad years, like,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I was so excited about this, et cetera, whatever. But anyways,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I confirmed my suspicions that she was upset with me.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: And anyways, she was like.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's great that you cleared it up.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: And I also see when you're hosting a show like that, it's...
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Someone asked the question. You didn't facilitate a question. You
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: didn't pre-plan a snarky comeback.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: But also, you, you know... Now, did she see a
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: video of it or did she hear it?
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: There was a video that kind of went viral.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: So, again, you can't control the video.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: So, like, if someone posted that video, you know, there
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: was a time where I had my editor at the time,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: not the one I have now, and they cut what
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: they thought was, like, a good salacious clip of an
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: interview I did.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I found that it really hurt the person that was
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: being discussed. Even though I wasn't saying it, the guest
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: was saying it. And I removed it, and it made
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: me feel a little more conscious of what I choose
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: for the clips. Because people will see the clips. People
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: can send the clips. Is everyone going to listen to
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the full hour and 20 minutes? No. So I do
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: think that is something that we all learn from in
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: being in this business. And also, with the situation of
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Sutton and Erica, yeah. Sutton never has to sell another
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: t-shirt sweater at her Sutton store she is financially set
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: for the rest of her life and so are her
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: kids grandkids great grandkids okay Erica doesn't own a home
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: left a 20-year marriage with nothing had to you know
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: maneuver this whole situation with her husband now finally people
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: are sort of seeing about it you know, and why
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: everyone was coming after her too. And myself too. I
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: was asking, did she know I would, I would have
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: people on my show that was like, she was all
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: walking around the office all the time. Then someone would
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: be like, no, she wasn't. She doesn't. I'm like, yeah,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: she wasn't. She didn't go to law school. How would
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: she know how the money spent when he basically was like,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: here baby, here's a credit card and hire your fabulous
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: gay entourage and go make some fun songs and go
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to Splash Nightclub. Sounds good to me. That's kind of
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: what she was doing. And so I feel like now
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I have a better perspective of it too. And I
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: reported on her a lot too. And when I saw
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: her on a plane, I was a little bit like,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: oh fuck, this was like a couple, maybe a year
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: or so ago. And I go, hi Erica, I think
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: we're coming to Bravo Con or something.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And, she was so nice about how I'm doing after
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I fainted on stage. She was like, how are you?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: And I remember being like, that's really nice. And then
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: when I saw, I thought she had a great season.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I thought she showed herself as a real friend who's
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: been through some shit when she spoke to Kyle. I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: thought that was a great scene. I think she is
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: a great friend to Kyle. And like, And I really
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: saw like the work that she did in putting the
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: show together. And it was a legit fabulous show. And
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: when all these other housewives and people are trying to
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: go on stage and do things and they're like, you know,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: it's comedy or it's singing and it's kind of neither.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I do feel like Erica puts on a good show.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I think Luann puts on a good show and they,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: because they've been doing it for like, you know, many years,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: they didn't just suddenly do something. So I think that's
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: where she was coming to like, yeah. You're going to
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: shit on the fact that there's some rumor going around
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: about ticket sales, which doesn't help me with my business.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: And sometimes those things are not true. Like I've sold
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: out a show and then it's totally sold out. Either
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: people don't come because people are flakes. And then some
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: snark fan will be like, it wasn't sold out. Here's
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: two empty seats. It was fucking sold out. Or someone
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: buys the tickets and then they're trying to sell it
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: that day. And they're like, oh, the tickets are on
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: sale for whatever, $ 10. It's not true. And what does
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it matter if you sold it out or not? We're
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: all fucking working. It just was a rude thing to say.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. So I think that Erica, knowing how big
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: of a fan I was of her music, felt like
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: maybe in that moment I could have stepped in to
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: support her and defend her.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: You could have. You could have said, I've actually seen
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: her perform when I was a baby gay. I can't
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: wait to go. You're right. You could have done that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: And I just think it's a good lesson to learn
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: because we report on these people and they're real people. Yes.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: And they're trying to– they're doing this show and they're
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: selling their soul to the devil.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Devil being brothel. No, but to hopefully get something with longevity. Right.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Not all of them, but some of them, Erica being
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: one of them, hoping to have something with longevity that
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: will take them afterwards if this show ever ends. And
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: it's like, why shit on it?
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Right, right. So again, Erica, I'm sorry.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: We love you.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I love you. One reward.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Endless choice. Skip the hassle. Reward the easy way.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the Emmys, and I have police complaints filed against me.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: what would you do if it was given back?
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Where did that need come from, where you thought that
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: home dad. What happens next?
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: When I came in, he started crying.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: those hard moments that they go through.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: It's about what happens next.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I decided to risk it all.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to pull punches.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Speaking of shitting on people. So I saw you at
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: this DirecTV party. John Jansen, former boyfriend of Real Housewives
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: of OC Shannon Storm Spador, is there now with former
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: housewife returning friend Alexis Bellino. When she was on the show,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: she was married to her husband, Jim Bellino, and now
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: she's divorced and dating John Jansen. So we see them
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: coming on the carpet. And I'm like, oh, my God.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: And that was their first carpet experience.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Together, their debut. They spoke to you.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Tell me about the conversation that happened because that was
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: before this lawsuit came out. We're going to get to
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the lawsuit in a minute, but I will say the
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: lawsuit is Jim. I'll just get to it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: John.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: John Jansen is suing Shannon Bedore for seventy five thousand dollars.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: The lawsuit says that he gave her $ 40, 000 through a
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: wire for a facelift in January of 2022. And then
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: another $ 35, 000 personal check in May of 2023. No, I
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: think it was 2023.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: It was like two installment situation.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think both were in 2023.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: And, or maybe 22. Anyway, I read it, but I
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: can't remember. So that, you know, And, you know, she's
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: saying it's a gift. His attorney is saying we have
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: texts and emails that prove that it's not a gift.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Then I read more and she was saying, like, we
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: were trying to resolve this. But in me paying him back,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I wanted him to sign something I think that he
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to discuss it. And he said no.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: No.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: This is how I'm understanding it. I did not read
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the actual legal things. I'm reading these articles. And I
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: thought that was extremely interesting because now he's on the show.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: He told me at that party after he was off
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: the carpet, we were just talking, because we hung out
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: with them as a couple, my husband and I, and
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that he's like, I'm not, we tried to stay away
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: from each other, Alexis and I, but this chemistry is
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: off the hook and we're in love. And it has
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with Shannon. I wish her the best.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with Shannon. And I, and
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Alexa said, I said, if you're having me back on
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: the show to feature John, no. But he has been
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: on once. She's like, I've done one scene with him
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: so far, which was like a FaceTime.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: But I'm thinking there must be a lot of discussion
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: about Shannon in which has either been filmed or they
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: want to film. And that is why he is not
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: going to agree with the no talking thing. And I
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: also think he could be like, no, fuck you. You
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: talked about me all the time. You talked about me
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: all the time. You made me look bad.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Either to your friends off camera that then would say
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: it on camera. We don't have sex. I don't spend
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the night. I don't have a lot of money. Remember,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: she was like, he's not going to be rich enough
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: to take care of us. Forever. His kids live at home.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I don't get along with the kids.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Or Emily saying that he told Shannon that she was
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: fat and not attracted to her.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Which, again, is a character assassination on his part.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Because any man that would say that to a woman,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: we hate. And I think he woke up one day
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: with too many comments from angry women who watch Bravo.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: And he was like, fuck you. Like, I stuck around
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: in this relationship longer than I wanted because you... You know,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: he said to me that part of her last contract
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: was based on if he stuck around and filmed with her.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Now, I don't know if that was ever in writing.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she conveyed that to him in
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: a desperate... I don't know. That's just what I recall
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: him telling me. I don't know how true that is.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: But it makes me think that in all of this, like,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: he's just like, No, I was actually really good to her. Yeah.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: And I'm, you know, and yeah, I want my 75
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: grand back, but I also don't want that story that's
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: going to be in repeats forever about me. I want
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: people to, I want to have an opportunity to set
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the record straight that I wasn't a bad boyfriend to her.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Right. And like now clearly from what I know, this
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: is making its way into... This season, cameras were not
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: on Shannon as the story broke, but they were on
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: other people.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: So I know that- So they're like having lunch and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Uh-huh, uh-huh. Oh my gosh. So this is definitely, you know,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: it was definitely captured. I don't know if it'll make
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: the final cut. I'm assuming that it will because this
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: is like so juicy. Like you owe me $ 75, 000 for
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: a facelift. The thing that makes me so sad is like,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Shannon's been on this platform for so many years and
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I know that not every housewife is doing great financially.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what I said.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: But like the fact that you have to borrow money
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: for a facelift makes me so it makes me so sad.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm like, I definitely think here's the thing. Before
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: she got on the show, she was married.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: And lived in somewhere between a $ 13 and a $ 16
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: million house.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And once she got on the show, there was infidelity.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: They broke up. They got back together. They did a
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: fake funeral.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: They did a vow renewal. Yeah. They get divorced. They
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: sell the house. No, they stay together. They sell the house.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: They then rent a house. Then they get divorced. She's
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: been renting ever since and been on the show for what? Eight,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: nine years. And I don't, you know, maybe that's, yeah,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think she did great in this divorce. And
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I think that how, you know, in doing this, the,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: maybe the, the lemon business or whatever it was didn't
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: pan out. I don't know. Like, or she was just like,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to spend it. Let's see if I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: can get it for my boyfriend. I don't know.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Women do that.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Women and people do that in couples. Like why not?
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Or be crying about it. If I only looked like this.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: And then he's like, Oh my God, here, we don't know.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. She's saying it's a gift.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: So her story could be, he came to with me
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: to a consult, you know, consult with somebody. And I
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: was like, I can't, I can't justify spending this money
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: on myself. And he was like, I got you girl.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: That could be her story. And she goes, and now,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the hits keep coming. I get this like what, right.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: You know, so who knows what their story is going
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: to be, but yeah, I think it will be interesting
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: to see, you know, and we see that Alexis and
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Tamara and Heather Dubrow were all in like some private
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: jet and all that. So look, I mean, I'll, I'll
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: always watch OC. I'll always watch OC Beverly Hills and
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: me and well, I don't know how much I'll be
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: watching New York this next round.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Do you not like the reboot?
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's fine. I mean, I like the girls.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I just don't know that I– I don't know. I
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: can't say that I 100% will. But Beverly Hills and
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: OC and New Jersey I'll always watch.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: And hopefully New York. We'll get into it.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Who's your top Roni reboot girl?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Probably Erin just because I interviewed her and I feel
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: like she's like gorgeous and interesting.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: But all of them are great. All of them are
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: really put together, and I like their style. So we'll
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: just see what happens with them. But, yeah, this is
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: going to be a lot. He is the Harry Hamlin.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Not the Harry Hamlin. The Harry Duber.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Harry. Duber. Harry Duber, yes.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Harry Duber now of the West Coast.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: So we'll see. And also you wonder how much of
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: this lawsuit was the pressure from your new girlfriend. You know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: how many times has someone gotten divorced– And the new
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: wife is like, we shouldn't still be paying for that.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: And you know, like, what? You need to get that.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: What is she doing still borrowing that? You know, like
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: that's what happens. Or you are the second wife or
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: the girlfriend after. And you're like, why are you running
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: over there to help your ex-wife with her gait? Like
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you've been divorced eight years. What was it at all
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: instigated by her to be like, go after this?
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, John and Alexis told me and Danny up
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: and down on the carpet at DirecTV, like, we don't
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: want to hurt Shannon. We care how she feels in
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: all of this. Like, we really just, this is about us.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: It's not about her. And we just, yeah, they didn't
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: want to hurt her. But I feel like this is
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: going to hurt Shannon.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like anything he could say about her, though,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: and I know she must be stressed about it, wouldn't
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: surprise the viewers. We know her personality. We know she's dramatic.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: We know she's like, we have normal conversations and they
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: are devastating. Well, how is a normal conversation devastating? Like,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: we all know it. So it's like, I don't think
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: there's anything that he could say that would be like shocking. Like, oh,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: that she, whatever, was dramatic or made it about herself.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I think we know that. But still, I think the anticipation,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: the anxiety that someone must have when they know people
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: are filming about this and they're not going to be
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: able to see it for like six months.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's tough, I can imagine.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: That's why you need plastic surgery.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, literally.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: This happened over the weekend, very sad. Christine Quinn, who
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: was the beautiful blonde from the Netflix show Selling Sunset.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: She was on the first two seasons. She was a
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: realtor for many years prior to the show being made.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Then she was super fashion forward, married this guy. He
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: appeared to be very, very wealthy. And then she went
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: off the show. They had a baby. And it was
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: announced that he was arrested. The cops were there. Which
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I assume... Are they just listening to the cop news?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Like the TMZ people?
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I think so. I'm not really sure.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't know being a page six person how this works?
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not tapped into the cop side of it all.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: But yeah, this was insane because they were... Like there,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I think like three times within like 33 hours or something.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know about the third time. I just said
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the first time was the cops were called. They said
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: it wasn't her. It wasn't she who called, but she
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: was okay. But she did go to the hospital with
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: her child because he threw a bag of like broken glass.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: And it hit the child. And so then they left.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: He was arrested in a very unfortunate bathrobe.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And no shoes.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: No shoes. And just. looked like a loser, which he is.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: And terrifying.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: And then he was let out on bail, but there
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: was a temporary thing where he couldn't go back to
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the house. He did go back to the house. She
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't there. So then he was arrested again.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: And, but I think that, yeah, I've heard that they've
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: been having problems for a while. And so sometimes as
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: horrible as this is, It's out there now. If it
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't out there, if this had resulted in something being
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: kept private, maybe she would stay longer. So hopefully she
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: can look at it in a good way, get out.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: She's got a lot going on. She has 5 million followers. She's,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: like I said, very fashion forward and all of that.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: But also she can go back on selling Sunset. I'm
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: sure they'd love to have her back. A hundred percent.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: As a viewer and fan would love to have her back.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: I'm so heartbroken for her. And this really just goes
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: to show that like nothing is ever good as it seems.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just like making me think of
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Taylor Armstrong and her now deceased husband.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: From Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: We didn't know that. And yeah.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Then we knew. And it was just like so sad
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: and so heartbreaking. So I... Yeah, like you said.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: But also the stuff that we saw on Selling Sunset,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: which was filmed probably three years ago when she was on.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: It was before her wedding, before they had a kid.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: And things change when people get married and have kids.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: So he could have been a complete delight who then,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, became an abuser. Like verbal and everything else,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I assume. But this is not good. Well, we'll see
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: what his... You know, allegedly this is what happened, allegedly,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: so we'll see. But we wish her the best. Real
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Housewives of Salt Lake City, they were in Palm Desert
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: this weekend, La Quinta, where I was, and I got
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: word that they were there and filming, and there's this
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: new girl whose name is... but spelled differently than the
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Bronwyn of O.C.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Not another Bronwyn? Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: And she, supposedly, she's like a pretty influencer from, you know.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Is she like a Mormon influencer?
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything. I just saw little bits and
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: pieces about it.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I'm dying for them to get a Mormon influencer.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: And saw them at the airport.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Did you say hi?
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. I saw a photo of them at
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the airport.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I didn't go to the airport.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I drove. I don't fly. But, you know, Monica's gone.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: And I have to say that kind of, I don't know.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know what she could have done differently, but
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like that interest has died. I felt it
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: was so big and now everyone's just kind of like,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Like we're moving on. Yeah, totally.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: I agree. I agree.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Did you ever interview Monica?
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: I never interviewed Monica. No, I have not. I mean,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: I would be interested to chat with, well, I mean,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I would interview her, of course, always, but I think
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: I would have been more interested to interview her like
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: a few months ago.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Like, yes, I feel like interest is, waning a little
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: bit and i think.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: They'll figure out she was like waiting like she didn't
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: do i mean i had reached out to to her
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: well first i didn't reach out to her first i
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: was so disgusted with what she did first i reached
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: out to her when i just thought she was a
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: new housewife yeah i was also reaching out to her
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: when she was dita bontice or whatever reality bontice not
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: knowing that she was reaching out to me and i
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: just thought she was you know whatever And I only
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: commented about her exposing Jen Shah. I never saw that
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Instagram account talk about anything other than Jen Shah. And
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I think that was her argument.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: I see.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did this, but it was only Jen Shah.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: And they were like, no, it was awful stuff about
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: us too. And then she was like, yeah, but you
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: were engaging with me about Jen Shah. But yeah, but
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: you also said awful stuff about us and you weren't
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: being honest. And I agree. Like, The dishonesty and that
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: whole thing of being a blogger, it's very today, but
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: it's also too much of inauthentic, and that's not what
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the housewives should be. Right, right. Too weird. But I
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see if she gets on Traders or
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: House of Villains or something. I would think she could
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: at least get on House of Villains.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, 100%. Yeah, she's got to do House of Villains.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: and or Traders. I'd love to see her on both.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: I think those are two special places that she would
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: exist very well in and thrive.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I watched a ton of Buying Beverly Hills. I think
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like- On Netflix.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: It's really good. I think I'm like up to episode
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: four or five now.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Well, okay. Here are my thoughts.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Tell me.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Um, I love watching shows where I know the people.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: So obviously I'm going to watch this. I was a realtor.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I grew up in real estate. I like real estate shows,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: especially about LA.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: So I do love the backdrop. They also go to Miami,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: which is just, I love real estate porn. I like
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: can love that. And I do. They, so it's that
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: glossiness that like the selling sunset has.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: And then, um, But like, I don't know. I mean,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: let's just be honest here. I don't know how honest
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: you can be.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I feel like they are basically stealing a storyline from
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: like season one and two of Kardashians from 15 years
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: ago with the three girls. Do you remember? There's a
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: scene where they're in Miami and Alexia, I think that's
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: her name, she feels that the older sister Farrah and
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: the younger sister, which is Sophia- even though they have
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: a bigger age gap, they have such a close bond
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: and they leave her out.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: And I'm like- It's very Chloe Courtney.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Chloe and Courtney take Miami. Like, where's, like, it just felt,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I kind of don't believe it. I think that they
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: are very, they don't have any issues. I think they
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: actually really get along. And I think they're like, we
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: got to have some stuff happening.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: And then they fake go for this guy who, I'm like,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: do we even know what he likes. Like I was like,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: and they're both two girls are acting like they're both
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: flirting with him. And I just felt like he was
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: playing along.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Wait, Farrah and Sophia, like the oldest and youngest.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Sophia and this other realtor are both flirting with this
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: really good looking guy named Adam.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: That like looks like a model, but you know, has
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: clients that want to spend $ 30 million, whatever. And so
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm watching these shows, and there's this new
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: thing that happened with the National Association of Realtors, where
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: now they can't state how much commission they're offering a
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: buyer's agent in the MLS. And people think it's going
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: to be a big deal. They think it's going to
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: really hurt new agents, because mostly new agents represent buyers,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: not the listings, not the seller's house. They normally just
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: represent buyers, because it's harder work and schlepping. And I'm like,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I think it was all these shows... that made people go,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: who are these fucking twats making $ 500, 000 after they show
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: one house? Like, what the fuck is this? Maybe this
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: is the problem with housing in America. I don't know.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense though because every time I look
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: forward to seeing the potential commission because it's like so mind-blowing.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: It's like literally like life-changing commissions.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. And so it's a lot of that. And then,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: but of course about Mauricio and Kyle. So there's, there's,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: so far I'm like on episode seven or something. There's
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: only been two or three scenes Kyle's featured in. She
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: was not featured at all in the first season, which
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I believe was part of maybe her Beverly Hills contract.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: And did you notice that?
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they, why she couldn't do it.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Right. And I think in like the first lower third,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: when she comes on screen in this season, in season two,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: it says, uh, Mauricio's wife and star of the real
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: housewives of Beverly Hills. So I think that was some
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: sort of like weird Bravo thing. contract stipulation thing?
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, because it's like, I thought you
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: were just going to say it was going to just
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: be like Mauricio's wife. Like, as if we don't know,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: like when they bring back like a housewife that was
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: already fired and was on five seasons and it's like
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Sutton's friend.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: You're like, what?
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: This girl was on five years before Sutton.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: I just thought it was odd that they included that.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: And I was really surprised that they were able to
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: speak about Beverly Hills in such a candid way.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: It's like, Um, it's also just kind of interesting that
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, to when, you know, when she's like,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I have anxiety and all this other stuff and that
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: she wants this for her girls.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I guess it's like, what else are you going to do?
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: I think it's that.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: You might as well be famous and make as much
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: money as you can. You're, you know, we're already out there,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: but I really feel like we never saw these girls
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: on the real housewives of Beverly Hills. So if they
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: didn't want it for themselves and maybe they very much did,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: it's the kind of thing that like they could have
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: led a private life. But I assume he wanted the show.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: He probably saw Selling Sunset and all this stuff and
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: was like, well, we have a juicier, funnier life. We're
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: more famous than that. And then the other thing was
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the Rick Hilton thing. So the Rick Hilton thing. So
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Hilton and Highland, which is Rick Hilton, Paris' dad, Kathy
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Hilton's husband, gave Mauricio his first job. I mean, when
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Kyle and Mauricio met, they met at like a nightclub
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: and they were living in an apartment with Farrah, like
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: who was from her first husband. And he was like
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: selling suits or he was a personal trainer or something.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: They both got their real estate license. She then, you know,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: became more of the mom. And so I don't know
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: that she ever really did real estate. He got the
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: job at Hilton in Highland with Rick Hilton and then
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: did really well. And then he said at a certain point,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: he's like, I want to be a partner. And he's like, no. Which, Honestly,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: being in real estate, that doesn't happen. If you're a
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: really good agent, they just keep saying, okay, you only
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: have to pay us 1% of your credit. It just
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: keeps going down and down and down because we want
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to keep you. So anyway, he goes and leaves and
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: starts his own company. And Kathy Hilton said in the
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: reunion– That was fine. But what we said was don't
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: poach our people, our agents, our clients, our escrow people, whatever.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: And he did with some. So cut to all these
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: years later, the storyline is one of his main guys
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: is being pursued by Rick Hilton. And Rick Hilton is saying,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: come over to Hilton to Highland and I will give
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: you a portion of the partnership. Something that I didn't
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: get to release to you all the time.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Are you buying it? Like, do you think it's do
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: you think.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: That could be real? But I think what Mauricio needs
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: to say is go to his main guy and go,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: he's only doing this to hurt me. He doesn't really
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: care about you.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: And do you want to be with a dying, not
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: a dying, but like a much older, older vibe? Or
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: do you want to grow with this thing where all
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: the hip and young kids are and like we have
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: a TV show and everything, but just know he's only
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: doing that to get to to me.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: And that's that's what I would tell him. But I
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: think it's a good storyline. Maybe it's true. Maybe it's not.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe there is an element of it that's true. Maybe
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: it's just a conversation and not an actual like offer
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: on the table. But, yeah, I think it's all like
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: the real estate stuff that to me is interesting. So
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I think that was good that they made it a storyline.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, he's like, you know, I guess
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Kyle's just not in love with me anymore. And so
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: he's like being really honest about it. And, you know,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: it's like we've seen it and we've gotten the bits
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: and pieces from what they've given us. And to me,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: this is one of the most fascinating stories in real
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: housewives history because it's so relatable as someone that's been
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: married for a long time. I have friends who are divorced. Like,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I get how this can happen. Right. But, yeah, I mean,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: he's out currently dating.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I guess good for him because I feel like,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: you know, Kyle's doing what she wants to do. Yeah.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think. I don't know. I
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: heard some stuff over the weekend.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Regarding a certain country singer?
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: No, both. Oh.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, Mauricio.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Mauricio is, you know, enjoying his best life.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: And good for him.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: And, you know, dancing around with the dancers. The dancer.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Holding hands again, maybe?
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Having dinner, whatever.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Who knows?
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: They were cute together.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: But she said, go ahead. So there's no scandal there.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: So who knows? Maybe they're just friends. Maybe, you know,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: she's staying in another place. I don't know. But I
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: think he's kind of like, I don't care anymore. I
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: don't care. She's with her country singer. Now, when is
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: the article coming out on People Magazine? I know. Yep,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: we're in love.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Everyone's waiting for it.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: The title is Yep, We're in Love.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I love yep. And it's going to be them looking great,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: facing the light. And on the ground, guitar.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Legs kind of entwined.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, yep.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Then there's going to be another photo of like. Uh-huh.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to get a laughing photo.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Like laughing. And then definitely some animals.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Some animals. And then like an in, it'll be like
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: at like an office setting and in the background are
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Kyle's kids framed. So it's like, you know, yes, this
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: is my new life, but this is really my life.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would love to see it.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: If this comes out and I get this many predictions right,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: if I don't start getting up there with Tyler Henry,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be pissed.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we need a crystal ball here in the studio. Yeah,
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, she did like shut it
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: down on her Amazon. Live, which basically is like her
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: own version of a podcast.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: What is that? I've asked Lala.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: What it is?
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Why are you dropping your biggest tea on the Amazon Live?
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Do you get paid the longer people stay on the
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Amazon Live? Are you supposed to be selling your products?
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: That I'm not sure about, but it does seem like.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I don't get it, but all the juiciest scoop comes
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: from them doing their Amazon Lives. So I feel like
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Amazon must be paying an enormous amount, and part of
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: it is you've got to answer these questions, and I
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: think they just get comfortable... And answer the questions.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, that must be it because you're so right. Like,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: all these big headlines, like, break via Amazon. I'll click
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: on an article, like, one that I didn't write or
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: didn't have any part in. And I'm like, of course,
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: it's Amazon. It's always Amazon Live. But, yeah, she shut
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: that down in an Amazon Live.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Recently?
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Like, maybe, like, two-ish weeks ago when it became a
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: thing on Demois. But I don't know. I kind of
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: feel like Kyle would shut it down just to, like,
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: shut people up. And then once it eventually happens, like
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: she could be like, look, like I wanted to announce
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: it myself, say it in my own words, et cetera,
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: et cetera.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I thought everything that was on the reunion was now
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I went back to being like, no, they are a couple.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I've gone back and forth 15 times. And I was like, no,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: they are a couple because he was like, well, would
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Morgan be here sitting? And I don't know. She might.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Like there's, there's no way if someone said that to me, like,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm not, I, but yeah, would I date
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: a woman? No, I wouldn't.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: I just, I know that about, but I guess I
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: know people change their mind. And then also maybe you
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: want to say yes. Cause then other people.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Will accuse you of like being homophobic.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, just cause you're like, well, I'm sorry. I'm
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: just like, not that, you know, like, um, you know,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: like if someone said, would you date a woman? And
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: you're like, no, no one's going to say, what are
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you kids?
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: Straights.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? Like, no, I mean, it's just like, no, but,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: I think if there was a heavy rumor about me
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: being with a friend of mine who was a lesbian
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: and it really wasn't true, I would be like, it's
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: not true. Like I'm married and like whatever. But I
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: think she wasn't ready for it. I think she is
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: smart about how much press this was going to bring
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: to the buying Beverly Hills show. Which, let's be honest,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: it kind of was like a dud first season. It
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: got like no buzz. I don't even remember the storylines
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: from first season. I don't even remember. I had one
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: guy come on and he was a delight, Brandon. But
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: other than that, I really don't remember anything about the show.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Right. Same.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: And I was like, so this got me watching.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And like, Kyle is such a family gal that
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: I feel like she would be willing to sort of
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: like use this to benefit her family.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Even if it's like her estranged husband. Obviously, she'd want
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: to benefit her daughters. Her daughters.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: And launch them in a way that they can have
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: their own thing and their own success.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: So, like, mom of the year for stoking tabloid fodder.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: You're right. She sacrificed herself for the benefit of all that. But,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, then there was a rumor that, oh, she
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: did talk to a divorce attorney this week or whatever.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: And then watching all this with all the– how many
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: offices there are in the world and stuff, I'm like,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: why are they living in Encino? Like, there was– Granted,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: their house in Encino, I'm sure, is worth like– It's beautiful.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's worth a lot. I've been in Woodland Hills,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: the Valley. But I'm just sort of like, is this
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: business– or is it just so overwhelming that he just
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: takes a salary and it's not the kind of money
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: that we think it is? I don't know.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Because I guess he's just the CEO. So he's not
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: the owner. It's like franchises.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: It's like McDonald's, I think.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that. That's interesting.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think he owns– or they just lease– the building,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: you know, where the agents are and they just set
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: their office there. And then you, you know, I don't know,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: but like, I was like, wow, I mean, this is
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: huge when you see that he's like, Oh, I sold
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: another house for $ 30 million and dah, dah, dah, dah. And, um, so, well,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: whatever the case, I think they did raise great daughters.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: They're all winners.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: They're all pretty and fun. They all sound like Kyle.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: I always think it's Kyle on screen. It's so crazy
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: how they all sound like her. I do love Sophia.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: I thought she was a really good addition. I interviewed her.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: She's really pretty. She's the youngest.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: So pretty.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: She's a 23-year-old. And then, of course, there's Portia, who's 16,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: who is not featured at all in this.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Just like one little tidbit at the beginning at.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: The dinner table, and then she's gone. Yeah. But kids change.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't want. That's the thing. Like, kids at
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: 12 that don't want to be on it might feel
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: differently at 23, I wanna be on it. Same thing
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: with why I think it's wrong when parents expose their
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: kids too much on social media and then make them say, well,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: if you give up being on the YouTube channel, we're
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: gonna lose the house. And it's like, yeah, I liked
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: doing YouTube when I was six. I don't wanna do
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: it at 12. I might wanna do it at 23. Like,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: they're kids. It changes. So I'm sure the three are
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: there and they're very happy to be there.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: You know, so, but it's interesting.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I like the dynamic, even if they're copying Kourtney,
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Kim and Khloe sometimes. Yes.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: And it is, it's even a little bit like that
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: because the Sofia is much taller, like Khloe.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: She's like Khloe in the group. And then the, is
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: it Alexis or Alexa?
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: Alexia. Alexia.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Alexia is more petite. Uh-huh.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: And then it's like the Courtney and then Kim is Farrah.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: But in the styles and everything, so it's kind of funny.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: And they're all brunette, of course.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Amazon Live.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: She also said that she doesn't believe that she was
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: ever being manipulative with Dorit, Kyle.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, I love Kyle so much, but I really love,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: I'm a big Dorit fan. But in reading that text
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: message that was like released in full online after it was,
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: you know, revealed on the reunion, I didn't.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Who released it?
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: That's what I don't know.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: So Dorit received a text from Kyle the night before
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: the reunion. Yes. That was basically like, I know we
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: haven't talked, but I'm going through a lot. And basically
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Dorit felt it was, be cool to me tomorrow and
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: I'll be cool to you.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that's such a bad thing to do.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: When you're going on national television, you're going through a divorce.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: You weren't as close. however Kyle didn't do anything mean
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: to Dorit all season so she was like I know
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: we haven't talked but can we can you be cool
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: tomorrow and then Dorit was like I think that's quite
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: manipulative and she said that well who is she telling the.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Story to oh Erica yeah I think it's Erica.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: And then yeah but we but where did the.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Was it on the show so it was there was
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: like they showed it on screen and they kind of
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: like highlighted certain chunks but it wasn't shown for very
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: long So I'm not sure how like the full text
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: message made its way online, but it did. But I
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: read it a few times because I was like looking
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: for the manipulation and I never found it.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: I just, yeah, I don't know what that was about.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: But I hope they can patch things up.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe she'll explain it in the People article.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Sorry that it's... Well, maybe you'll get the exclusive.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: One of the guys that's on the Mauricio show is
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: the one who sold Ariana, and this is coming from
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Face Reality. Oh, it's Ben Black. They put it together,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Face Reality 16 Instagram account, that he sold this house
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: for $ 1649. That was the listing price.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: And I think she got it for $ 1, 600. And it
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: looks modern and it's been redone. It's in the Hollywood Hills.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: It's not in the Valley. And that's where Ariana Maddox
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: bought her house.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: And a friend of mine told me that she was
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: looking at it to flip their flippers. And they didn't
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: go for it. But from what she told me that
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: the listing price was and the amount of work that
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: went into it, Ariana got a great deal.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Ariana got a great deal.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Yes. So....
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: And so now I assume Tom will get to keep
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: that house and then he'll just whatever, pay what is owed.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Because I think the whole reason she wasn't leaving is
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: because she didn't have a place or maybe she didn't
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: have her money together. Now she does to buy a place. Also,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: we saw her bedroom. I don't think she's the most organized.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: And I think moving is overwhelming. She's doing Chicago, all
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: of it. So now she'll have her own place. They'll
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: figure out their finances. He'll stay in the valley. She's here.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Apparently the reunion was not good for the girls.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. I can't believe Lala and Ariana. But
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: I will say.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: What have you heard about that? Because I haven't even
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: talked to Lala about this.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: So basically that Lala and Ariana really got into it
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: and kind of left feeling like the friendship is... done
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: it seems like a permanent friendship break which is I
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: don't know I I feel like the world is growing
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: tired of the like Ariana superwoman narrative and I think
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: that Lala I appreciate her for just like really like
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: leaning into her truth and what she feels is authentic
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: to herself and I I mean like the whole like
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: Sandoval and Ariana thing was like just I don't know.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: It was insane, but I think we're all so tired
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: of it. I mean, are you tired of it?
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I can see why people are, but at the
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: same time, like, that's not Ariana's fault that she was
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: given like a million deals.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: It's totally not Ariana's fault.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: So I don't like that.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, enough.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Or get over it. She doesn't have to get over
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: ever what happened to her.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: 100%. You know what I mean?
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they do have to film a show, and
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: the other people do have to interact with this other
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: cast member, and that's where it gets really hard. I
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: think if they were never on a show... And the
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: girls then continued to go have lunch with Tom Sandoval
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: six months after he did this to her.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: In real life with no cameras. It was never a show.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Then I could see her being like, fuck you forever.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: And they would and they and she would be justified. Yeah.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: But when there's business and Hollywood and everything else involved,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: like it's Hollywood and Hollywood people never turn down anything.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: And if they turned down every opportunity in talking to him,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: the producers wouldn't be happy and all of that. And
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: then as time goes on, he is a charming guy.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: And if he's showing any remorse to them as a
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: friend and being nice to them, now they start getting
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: sucked in. And that's when Ariana was like, I'm afraid
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: you guys are going to get sucked in and then
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be the one left out. And I
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: think that might happen.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that is happening. I feel like at
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: this point, the only person that Ariana really has a
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: true ride or die is Katie, who also doesn't mess
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: with a lot of people on that cast anyway. So
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: it kind of seems like they're just kind of becoming
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: this dynamic duo and everyone else is Over here.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: And the sandwich shop isn't happening. You heard about the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: sandwich shop.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: So I knew about this tidbit of information. And somebody
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: else like went and found the record. So I have
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: to give them credit, but I don't know who they are. Okay.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: That the girl that was the woman that was like
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: helping them come up with the menu and helping them
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: hire people.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: She trademarked all about her.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Oh. So something about her belongs to her.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, something about her. Yeah. So she owns it. So
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that is what also added to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: them being maybe like pissed or like, wait a minute,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: we don't want to deal with this woman. I don't know.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Of course, the city of West Hollywood is very difficult.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: They had to remove all their stuff from the outdoor
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: eating area. Then she goes and does Chicago. Like, I
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: don't know if you guys are ever going to get
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: a sandwich.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and do you know what? I kind of, like,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: I feel bad for, like, the fans who are so
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: excited about this sandwich shop because there really wasn't, like,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: a genuine excitement. I mean, like, they made hundreds of
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars when they sold merch for whatever. There was
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: a whole activation at BravoCon. But, like, I feel like
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Vanderpump rules, and this is just, like, my thoughts, assumptions,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: and speculations. I feel like it's, like, sort of, like,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: coming to a close. So why put yourself through, like,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: the drama of owning a brick-and-mortar sandwich shop if, like,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: it's not even, like, for... storyline or you don't have
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: that flagship series to really anchor it. It's just.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. Being in business with a friend... Oh,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: it's also hard, too. It's really, really hard.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: And then.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: that kind of a business, like an actual restaurant. And
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: I just think at the time, I think the intentions
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: were a hundred percent there.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: That where they wanted to do this, they wanted to
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: do it back when, you know, Katie and Tom were
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: still married and everything.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Before Scandival.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Before Scandival, they wanted to do it. It could have
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: been fun. It could have been cute. And then Scandival
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: happens and, you know, they have these other opportunities. They
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: have these ways of making money so much easier than
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: slicing meat. And so I'm like, And so whoever the
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: fan is that bought the Something About Her sweatshirt, is
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: somebody going to get together and like is Ronald Richards
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: going to come and now do a class action lawsuit?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Did you buy a Something About Her sweatshirt for $ 34
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: and the store never opened? Like let it go.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Let it go. It's still– maybe they'll do something somewhere else.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: I don't really think– Maybe like a food truck.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: I just don't. Why would you do it?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: When you could go to a commercial or do an
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Instagram or do a podcast or do something else. Like,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you weren't raised, like, you know, well,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Katie said she was raised in a sandwich shop. I
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. And I don't think
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: it was ever fake for the show, though. I think
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: all this was the intention of this is what we
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: want to do with our life. And you're filming our life.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: And then these things really did happen with the city
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: of West Hollywood.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: And then all these other opportunities. Exactly what I said.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: And now it's not worth it.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Did you watch The Valley? I did.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: I liked it. What did you think? Yeah. Yeah, I
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: was into it.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think already another couple is separated. Did
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: you see that?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Michelle and.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: The realtors. There are realtors who don't live in The Valley.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Right. Behind the Chateau.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: That's where they live, yes. Yes.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: And Chateau Vermont. And they are already... They are separated.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: They announced on some carpet. And Jax comes in to Vanderpump.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: And he's like... He's like, Tom's the animal. You look awful.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: You look like you're 50. And I was like, okay.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Jax to me is, you cannot take your eyes off
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: of Jax. He is such an authentic reality star. Hate him.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Love him. Think he's a dick.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: He is who he is.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: He is who he is. And it's good. And we'll
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: see what's going on with Britney and him and everything.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: But I will say like, I think Jax is wrong, though,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: because Tom Sandoval, in my opinion, has, like, never looked better.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Never looked better. Whatever he's doing, like, injection-wise, working out.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: I think not drinking.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: That is helping here. And then also getting rid of
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: the mustache. Like, he really does look good. I also wonder,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he's done anything to his nose,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: but I got a liquid nose job and I'm looking
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: at everyone's nose now. Oh, okay. And so I feel like.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Possibly.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It looks good. I'm like.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can do that. And if you ever had
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: a little bump or something, you could just get a
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: filler in there and it'll just shape it a little bit.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: And it will be very hard to detect.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. This one was really funny. He goes, I feel
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: like I'm Scott Peterson. And Schwartz is like, didn't that
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: guy kill his wife? He's like, allegedly.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: It was... And this is where I'm like, this stuff
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: is good. Like I, I am not bored at all.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like they are because there's such a deep
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: history and friendships and all of it that it just
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: keeps you going with it, you know, versus watching the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: buying Beverly Hills where there's the sisters, but they're not
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: people we know. And then all these extra people that
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: we don't know yet, it just doesn't like suck you
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: in like a Vanderpump when you really know these characters
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: you've watched for so long. But that was really funny. Oh,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Tracy Morgan said that he gained 40 pounds doing the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: weight loss drug Ozempic.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: Okay. Do you know what's really true?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Is that a joke though? I've seen this everywhere. Is
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: he like joking?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: Because I'm so candidly, I am on semaglutide, which is on,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: which is the, that's the ingredient in Ozempic. So basically
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: it's like generic Ozempic. I have been on it since February,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: 2023 with like a three to four month break in
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: the fall.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: Um, I'm back on it and I'm doing okay, but I,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not losing weight as quickly as I was in
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: the beginning. And I don't know if that's just like
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: how it goes.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: You're not a, you're a slim looking guy. So what
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: are you hoping to do? Just lose like six pounds.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: So I got really fluffy during the pandemic. And so I've,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: I've lost like about like 25 pounds. So I get
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: a good chunk of weight off. So I, uh, my
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: goal is to lose maybe like 10 to 15 more,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: but I'm just like, not losing. And then like some check-ins,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: like when I weigh myself, I'm actually like heavier. And
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: so when I saw that Tracy Morgan like ate out,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: ate Ozempic, I'm wondering like, am I doing the same thing?
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: Am I out eating Ozempic?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: My friend went on it. I have to check in
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: with her, but she was losing, but very slowly. Very,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: very slowly. I'm like, well, maybe that's kind of good.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: But there's another thing that's happening. Girls are getting pregnant.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I saw that. They're calling them Ozempic babies.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: And it's like helping them?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, so they're on Ozempic. Yeah. And, okay, there's this thing.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: This is what it reminds me of. They're saying that
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: it is possible that it's fucking with birth control pills.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: It's like canceling each other out. So they go on
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Ozempic and they're on birth control and they're getting pregnant.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: They're not trying to get pregnant. Or they don't want
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: to get pregnant. Or some of them are not on
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: birth control and they thought– and their doctor said, you'll
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: never get pregnant again. This girl goes after my second C-section.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: I was like in my late 30s. I'm like, I'm
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: done or whatever. And so she just got pregnant. But
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: the ozempic babies are coming out to be fine. They're
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: not like– nothing's wrong with them. They order less at
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: a restaurant. I don't know.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: You don't have to buy as much formula. Yeah.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: But I thought there was like, I remember there was
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: a girl in high school who got pregnant right after
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: high school. And she, she told us, do not do it.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: She got pregnant because she was on antibiotics for something
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: and it canceled out whatever birth control she was on.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: This was a long time. But I remember after that,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: the few times I went on antibiotics, if I was
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: on birth control, I would always ask, Like, is this
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: something I need to be careful of? So I think
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: it could be like that. They said it's not necessarily,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if, you know, it's not, they can't
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: say it's hurting or helping, but that could be a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: positive or a negative, obviously, of Ozempic.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: If you're pregnant and it wasn't working and now you're sick.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: And then the other thing, you finally get skinny and
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: now you're pregnant.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, there's so much going on. That's really interesting.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really interesting thing.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: But it doesn't seem too bad.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Have you seen this whole JLo trend on TikTok? It's
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: fucking hilarious.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: I love it. It's so funny. She's obsessed with the block.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: J-Lo, I, okay, so I watch little bits. Okay, I'm
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: very confused by the J-Lo movies. There's two movies. One
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: is just a bunch of music videos together where she's
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: like Rosie the Riveter, but in the future. And then
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: dancing around with like, where she walks like she's got
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: a cane. And then it's an umbrella. And I mean,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: the clips I've seen are pretty, I only watched a
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: little and I couldn't take it. Then she has another
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: one that's just her being Her documentary, her bet on blonde, whatever,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: being raw and how hard her life is, being that
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: she is this incredible entertainer.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: And one clip I saw, the acting was horrific. She's
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: acting like it's real. And she's like.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: Which clip?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, so she has no makeup on and she's rubbing
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: her eyes so much.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: She's so tired.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: She's rubbing her eyes so much and she's like, Miss Ben... Like, yeah,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: I should have been at the movie premiere. And she's
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: rubbing her eyes and she's like, I mean, sometimes I
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: just can't do it all. And no tears are coming.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: And she's rubbing, like, almost to the point where I'm like,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: wait a minute. You are someone who, you know, has
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: this glowing skin. You have a J-Lo skin thing. Anyone would,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: anyone like our age woman would be like, stop rubbing
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: the wrinkles around your eyes. What the fuck are you doing? Like,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: you know, and so there's that. Then there's the one
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: that we also saw where she goes, I love taking
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: out my hair. And just goes to show you that.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: She doesn't have great hair. The amount of hair products
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: she's sold. So anytime you see her hair looking amazing,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: none of it is hers. So she has very short,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: messy hair. And she rubs her hair. And it's like,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: this hair is... I like wearing my hair crazy like that.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: It's a crazy, crazy girl. 16, running around the streets
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: of the Bronx. Going to the bodega. And so I
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: went down a rabbit hole. And this girl pops up
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: and she goes, Enough? Enough? With you running the streets
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: of the bodega, you went to my same all-girl Catholic
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: high school. Your mom taught at this school. Like, you
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: didn't have this, like, and I think it's so funny
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: because I've talked about it, how I'm like, oh, my God,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: I'm so sick of, like, stars, their flex being like,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: I was a little bit poor at one time. Like,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: just shut up. Like, I'm always like, that's why I
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: always joke about, like, I come from the south side
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: of Ventura Boulevard.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: In the mean streets of Woodland Hills.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'd see one, even two coyotes as I walked
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: home from school. Like, we're all fine. Like, we all
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: lived a fine life. She lived a fine life.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: It feels like she's possibly misrepresenting her Bronx experience.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Everyone's so like, enough with the Bronx stuff. You don't
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: claim the Bronx. And then people would take it when
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: they're like, what's your favorite thing to get at the bodega?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: And the way she ordered it, she's like, oh, like
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: a ham and cheese sandwich. She's like, And someone's like,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: that's not the way you would say it. Like, if
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: you really lived in the Boudin, like, you would say,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: or you'd say something.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but not that way.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: And then, like, she's, you know, whatever. It's just, I
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: always wonder, does she see this?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: She's got to. I feel like J.Lo is someone who is, like,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: checking up on herself on social media at all times.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: I feel like she definitely, I feel like she's definitely
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: seen it.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: I always think, I think it's crazy, and I've said
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: this before, like, someone with her enormous... success and everything
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: what i think is the problem is that she won't
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: let it go like why are you doing everything that
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: a 25 year old influencer is doing sunday morning vibes
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: i'm like i'm like doing all like i just want
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: to check in with you guys like i i don't
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: know like i'm like you should be above all this
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: shit and i feel like she says no doesn't say
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: no to anything she'll do like a partnership with like
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: a legging company that's not even her own what.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: Are you doing i'm She just likes a check. I
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: don't know. All checks are good checks for J-Lo, I guess.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: She had to get rid of a bunch of shows.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, I saw that. That makes me sad, too, because
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: I went to her 50th birthday tour thing. I think
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: it was 2019 or something, and it was seriously one
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: of the best shows I've ever been to.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I heard that her tickets were $ 7, though.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, well, that's the thing.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: Hope that doesn't get involved.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Literally.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're $ 1. I don't know. Name them. Name them.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Name all the cities that you canceled. Name them.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: I think it was like, like a good chunk of
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: cities that she had to let go of. I feel,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: but I also feel like.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Listen, it's hard out there.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: It is hard.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: If you're at some big arenas and stuff, sometimes you're
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: just like, you know, you gotta be, you gotta be careful,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: even a big star because people don't have the money
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: to go to these shows.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: And it's like. And like to get, ticket prices are
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: like so expensive now so the people in the Bronx
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: who she's trying to connect with recently probably don't want
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: to spend $ 700 on a ticket.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: No but if you want to see comedy go to heathermcdonald.net
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: and only buy your ticket from heathermcdonald.net that's the other
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: thing people google without going to the artist whether you're
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: a comedian or whatever go to the exact website first
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: because if they buy the ticket secondary I don't know
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: but these are big arenas and stuff so that's a
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: whole other thing yeah Poor thing. This is Summer House,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: which I didn't watch last season, but I cannot take
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: my eyes off of it because it's about this couple
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: that were platonic friends and then they fell in love
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: over the seasons. He got sober, but he does pot.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: She still drinks.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: It's so captivating.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Does pot is so old lady, but he's mostly or whatever.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: And they get engaged and they absolutely have the worst
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: relationship ever.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: It's like known to man.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: And then she says, Paige, or someone's asking her, her
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: friends are asking her, they're like, oh my gosh, I
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: think Carl's going to love you in that. And she's like,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: it felt really like, no, he's not. And then she's like,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: how often do you have sex? And she goes, um, um,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: not a lot. But not, you know, once every two
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: or three weeks. But when we do, it's amazing. And
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Paige is like, okay, first of all, Everybody that's in
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: a relationship lies about how much sex they have because
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: everybody probably– unless you're like one of those people where
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: like your husband is just all over you all the
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: time and then that's annoying. Most people, they're like– I
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: don't know how honest everyone is going to really be.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: So they're like– clearly they're not having any– I don't–
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: but it could even be like four months ago when
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: she said this. Who the fuck knows? They have broken
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: up in real life. We're watching the demise of it.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: Thank God.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: She's absolutely blaming him for drinking while she's drinking rosé
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: all day long and they're showing her drinking all the time.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: And then she's like, are you on something? You seem
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: like cocaine Carl right now. And he's like, what? I'm
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: totally not. And then some of the people are like, look,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: I just don't think you should get married. And so
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: thank God they're not getting married. He has asked for
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: the ring back.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: And he was on Watch What Happens Live and he's like, Well,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: the state of New York says it is mine. And
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: people in the comments were like, that's okay that the
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: state of New York says it's yours because you guys
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: didn't get married and therefore it was like a promise.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Meaning like... I mean, there's one way to be like,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: this is a gift. And then because it's an engagement ring,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: it's like part of a contract that would become a
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: legal contract. So the ring was part of the legal
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: contract that never was consummated. So that is why... he
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: could ask for that back.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, so he got the ring and she got the apartment.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Class-wise, though, like, yeah. But maybe that's why. And listen,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: we know these people don't make a lot of money.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: And that was the other thing. On her end, he was,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Sound did, like, no ambition at all. Did you see
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: that part?
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: I did. And I was kind of like, she was
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: kind of, like, dogging him. She was like, he tried
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: to do this, like, sober TED Talk thing and wanted to, like,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: do speaking engagements and then he wanted to do this
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: and wanted to do that and, like, none of it happened.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think she was dying him at all he's
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: 40 years old he's been around the show for like
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: 8 years nothing wrong with 40 I'm saying like he's
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: not a young kid it's not like he's 21 and
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: you're being like a dick to your son he's 40
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: years old he's had all these opportunities he gave up
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: his job at Loverboy or whatever happened with that the
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: alcohol company with his friend and he and she's like
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: you gotta what are you gonna do like are we
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: gonna have kids and like are we gonna bring our
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: kid to the summer house for the next 10 years
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: to survive like what is your plan? And I think
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: he was, and so she's like, but you're not following through. Like,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: you bought the podcast equipment and you're not doing a podcast.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: You said you were going to do TED Talks, but
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: you didn't get an agent to hire you to do
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: TED Talks. Now, the worst idea on earth besides something
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: about her sandwich shop is a sober sports bar.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yes, you have a point.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: The only reason you're going to make money is because
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: people are going to get drunk and buy alcohol.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: You're not going to make a lot of money.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: No guy who's sober is.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Like, I would like to go to a bar and
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: get a real fun mocktail and fight for the Chiefs. Like,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: what the? No, that's an awful idea. And then everything
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: that goes into it. So she's got to be like. no,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to stand by while you come up
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: with an awful idea in the hardest business in America,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: the restaurant business. No and no.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: Right. No, I get that. That was not the best idea.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: I think just from watching the show though, Carl feels
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: like none of his ideas– are supported and he I
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: think he said like on watch what happens I like
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: now that he's no longer in the relationship like he
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: finally has like the focus drive and determination and no
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: no distractions and he's you know able to sort of
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: like make a few steps towards achieving some of these
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: goals yeah so I think it's I don't know I
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: feel like it's probably tough for him to sort of
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: like figure out what he wants to do with himself
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: and his like post sober life with like Lindsay Hubbard
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: she's such a menace To him. I think they bring
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: out the worst in each other.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: They're awful. I never thought the relationship was real to start.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: But obviously it was– I mean I really thought it
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: was an act the whole time.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: I thought like maybe he wasn't even into females. That's
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: just my opinion as someone who watched. Then I thought
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: it was fake. Like they did this weird like where
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: she's wearing like a nurse outfit and I felt like
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: it was very fake.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, that was weird.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: Like a sexy nurse. I thought it was fake. No,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: I do think it was real. I do think they
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: got engaged and fell in love. But thank God they're
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: not getting married.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: Candace has announced from Potomac that she is not coming back.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: And I think hopefully, I think it's probably the right
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: move for her.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: Why not? Yeah, I think that she is someone who
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: has really worked hard to establish a career outside of
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: the Housewives with like her music and stuff. And I
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: think that people are starting to take her a little
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: bit more seriously in that space. But are people going to.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Be going to her shows like they will Luann's? I
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: don't think so.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: I think if she like if we're talking about like
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: the Housewives fandom, no. But I think that if she
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: like continues to work hard to build a fan base
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: outside of Housewives and like a real music fan base,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: I think she has potential.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she could totally sing.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Then they said Robin, according to a big wig hello drama,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: posted this from Jasmine Brand, the Jasmine Brand, that she
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: is leaving. So I don't know if this is true.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be surprised.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: I feel like the Jasmine Brand, when it comes to
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: Potomac and Atlanta Tea, they're typically correct. So I feel
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: like this is probably true. It's just so interesting to
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: me because Candace and Robin were adversaries this season. So
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised that both of them are leaving. I'm also
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: wondering where this is going to leave Giselle?
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Who's this going to leave Potomac in general? Because the
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: biggest news is Karen Huger got a DUI over the weekend.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: She hit a, she swerved off the road, totaled her
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: 2017 Maserati. She didn't want to take a breathalyzer there,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: which is her right to say no to. Doesn't mean
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: you're going to get out of the DUI, but there's
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: a better way to defend a DUI without a breathalyzer evidence.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: I see.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: And I think She knew that.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: Did you see her statement?
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: So her statement was, I was with my friend and
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: being that Mother's Day is here and I lost my mother.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: It's March.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: You're 60 years old and your parents passed. Most 60
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: year olds don't have their parents on this earth anymore.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: It's very sad. I've lost both my parents. I've never
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: used it as like a crutch for anything. I always
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: felt like, oh my gosh, you know, I had my
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: parents up until 10 years ago. That's a long run.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: They saw my kids. Like, I'm very grateful for that.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: Not putting that you can't be sad and whatever. But
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: like she brings that up that I lost my mother
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: and Mother's Day is around the corner. Mother's Day is
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: not till May 11th or something.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have some time.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: And we're in March. So it wasn't like tomorrow or
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: today was Mother's Day. And so I was crying and
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: I was emotional. And so no one should drive when
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: they're emotional, right? So she's actually not copying to it
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: because I think she is going to try and fight it.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: It might be a low enough blood or whatever it
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: is that they took or they took the breathalyzer at
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: the department. So sometimes people think if they get to
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: the police department, maybe they'll sober up in the 15
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: minutes before that. Whatever, they could do it. I don't
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: know if that has been released yet, but if there's
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: a chance that she can fight it and prove that
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: she wasn't intoxicated then I think that's what she's going for.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. A lesson to all, do not drive all your
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: emotion off.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: And then Mia from Potomac, basically what I gathered, because
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: I really didn't watch it this season. I think a
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: lot of people didn't. I've heard it was sort of
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: a boring season. Mia was a stripper who met an
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: older guy, Gordon, and they got married and had two kids.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: And then they owned a bunch of joint chiropractic places.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: And then his brother fucked him over. And then they
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: went from a fancy house to an apartment. And then
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: she started dating someone. But then what is this new
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: information that she had a whole other boyfriend while she
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: was engaged before marrying Gordon?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So on the season finale of Potomac. And yeah,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: it was kind of a sleepy season. But it's been
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: a great season for Mia. And like the whole finale
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: was like about her in this drama, which was honestly
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: very compelling.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: So maybe I have to go back and watch it now.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: Just watch the finale. The finale is great. It's like
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: literally like a documentary special the last 20 minutes about
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: them two.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: And it's very interesting.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: So she is currently dating this guy named Ink, who
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: is a radio DJ. I guess he has some show
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: that's like syndicated in many cities and she's very proud
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: of that for him. OK. And they were high school sweethearts.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: And so they've always just kind of been like connected
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: and tethered. And according to Gordon, her like now estranged
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: husband on the season finale, he was like basically spilling
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: all the tea that she's been with Ink. this entire time,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: even before they got married, and that Mia told him
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: throughout their marriage, like, this is my soulmate, and anytime
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: we're having issues, that's why I always go back to him.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: And now there's even, like, questions surrounding the paternity of
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: her second oldest son. Ink thinks it's his, and this
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: is all going to be unpacked at the reunion. I
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: think Gordon also might think that it's Ink's. It's, like,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: honestly so crazy, but Dani and I just interviewed Mia,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: and she seems so happy with Ink currently, and she
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: also said that They have all gotten to a place
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: where they all go out to dinner with each other,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: with the kids.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: So now Gordon is not still angry at this time.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: According to me.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: Well, then I am going to watch it. And so
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: that is good. Kelsey and Taylor are still together. But
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: I want to wrap it up because we're gone a minute.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: You guys, virtual reality. How do you say it?
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: Reality.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: Reality. Yes.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Get it?
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: So it's T-E-A at the end of reality. Reality. And
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: you guys do interview a lot of people. You obviously
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: are through, it's through page six, right? Page six affiliated.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: And I always see you guys and I'm glad that
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: you came on.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, thank you.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: And we did not talk shit about Danny, which is
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: what the whole plan was to, just kidding. Tell anybody
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: else where they can follow you and everything.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so personally, you can follow me at Evan Real
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: on Instagram. And then virtual reality, we drop episodes every Thursday.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: And then typically we'll do like Bonus episodes are extended
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: full interviews on Fridays or Mondays. It just kind of
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: depends on how the week goes. And we do live shows.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: We have some coming up this year. I think we
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: have one in May in New York City. So we'll
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: have more information to share about that.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Awesome.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: Soon.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: But thank you so much for having me on.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this was so fun. We could go on another
• 1:26:15
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