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Scream and Scream Again · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hi, this is Lance Henderson, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: Listen if you dare.
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  Speaker 3: It's showtime.
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  Speaker 4: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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  Speaker 4: Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences,
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  Speaker 4: and parental discretion is advised. Powered nuclear reactor pumping out
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  Speaker 4: one million kilowatts of power. Watch a horror movie right.
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  Speaker 5: There on my TV.
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  Speaker 6: Horror movie right.
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  Speaker 2: There on my TV. Horror movie right there.
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  Speaker 4: On my TV.
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  Speaker 6: Horror movie right there on my TV. Horror movie right
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  Speaker 6: there on my TV.
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  Speaker 1: Horror movie.
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  Speaker 2: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nora.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Phillip.
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  Speaker 2: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
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  Speaker 2: the Oddity Studios. The same place where the first episode
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  Speaker 2: of The Horror Club was recorded.
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  Speaker 5: Coincidence?
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  Speaker 2: We'll get back to that later. Otherwise, how's it going?
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  Speaker 1: It's not bad.
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  Speaker 2: Your mind's blown by all the crazy conspiracies going on
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  Speaker 2: on the internets out there.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on.
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  Speaker 2: Most of it ties to the horror club. We're the
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  Speaker 2: center of all conspiracies. So one of those is that
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  Speaker 2: normally we don't even put these out on the regular feed,
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  Speaker 2: but we thought this one, it's a little out of
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  Speaker 2: the norm, at least of our usual... Rolling of the
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  Speaker 2: Die episode. So because of that, we thought maybe we'll
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  Speaker 2: just throw this out to everybody so you can have
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  Speaker 2: a taste. Since it's a new fancy movie, we can go,
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  Speaker 2: you know, see if everybody wants to hear us yammer
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  Speaker 2: on about horror movies. So that's why this is out
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  Speaker 2: on the normal feed. And what we're telling you is
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  Speaker 2: you should join the horror club and then you can
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  Speaker 2: hear this all the time because we have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of movies to watch.
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  Speaker 1: You'll fall in love with us by the end of this.
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  Speaker 1: I promise.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why you don't already, but definitely by
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  Speaker 2: the time you hear this. It really did come out
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  Speaker 2: of nowhere. I mean, we were planning on the next
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  Speaker 2: one being the next Die movie, and I kind of
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  Speaker 2: forgot that this was coming out, and then was like, oh, wait,
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  Speaker 2: that's like this weekend.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, it's green. I want to go see it. And
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  Speaker 2: then saw it, and I think that... If it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: that day, within the next day, I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I just watched Scream, and I need to talk to
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  Speaker 2: you people about it. And then you were about to
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  Speaker 2: go see it, Nora, and I was like, all right, well,
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  Speaker 2: we're two-thirds of the way there. Phillip, if you want
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  Speaker 2: to talk about it, let's do this.
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  Speaker 5: My only contention was whether I could leave my house
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  Speaker 5: due to the snow.
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  Speaker 2: You can blame the snow, but isn't that most weekends
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  Speaker 2: where you're, well, if I can get out of the house. But,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I'd have to get up.
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  Speaker 2: I'd have to put on shoes. I mean, this sounds
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  Speaker 2: like a lot of work.
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  Speaker 5: I had to get dressed.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. This is why I don't go
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  Speaker 2: anywhere the most of the time.
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  Speaker 3: I had to leave the house, Brian. I know.
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  Speaker 2: We all did. This is a new movie. We went
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  Speaker 2: to a theater. What's really weird is I went to
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  Speaker 2: a theater twice, which says a lot about this movie.
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  Speaker 2: After I watched it that first time, it was coming
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  Speaker 2: back to this week because it took us a while
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  Speaker 2: to sort of coordinate when we were going to do it.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, well, now it's been a few weeks
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  Speaker 2: since I've seen it. But more than that, I kind
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  Speaker 2: of just want to see it again. So that's why,
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  Speaker 2: as you sat down and saw these crazy, some sort of,
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  Speaker 2: speaking of conspiracy, this is like a notebook for an
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  Speaker 2: insane person that puts together their conspiracy website. So that's
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  Speaker 2: what these weird notes are, is the second time I
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, I know, once I get back in there,
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  Speaker 2: I'll be like, oh man, we need to talk about
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  Speaker 2: that and that, and I'm going to forget all of it.
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  Speaker 2: So I brought this piece of paper in, and in
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  Speaker 2: the dark, I'm scribbling and So I'm sure the people,
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  Speaker 2: luckily it was a little more spread out because it's
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  Speaker 2: been a few weeks. So there wasn't somebody right next
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  Speaker 2: to me going, what are you doing? Shut up.
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  Speaker 5: It's a podcast.
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  Speaker 2: You understand. We're dorks.
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  Speaker 1: It's research.
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  Speaker 2: I have to make notes. This is a for real thing.
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  Speaker 2: Not just any weirdo in theater like the rest of
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  Speaker 2: you people.
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  Speaker 5: I thought I was the only person in my viewing
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  Speaker 5: and started to talk to the screen. Which I don't
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  Speaker 5: ever do.
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  Speaker 2: Normally, I don't approve of that, but if you're by yourself,
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  Speaker 2: who cares?
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  Speaker 5: And then I heard someone behind me cough, and I
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  Speaker 5: was like, oh, maybe I should be quiet about this.
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  Speaker 2: You should have been like, shut up with your stupid coffee.
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  Speaker 1: See, there were too many people in mine, and I
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  Speaker 1: forgot how distracted I get by people crinkling the little
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  Speaker 1: candy bags and chewing their popcorn, and I was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, shut up. I wasn't necessarily going to go into
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  Speaker 2: this one, but since you.
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  Speaker 6: Brought it up.
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  Speaker 2: I've had this the first time. Thankfully not. I saw
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  Speaker 2: it again yesterday. So not yesterday. The first time I
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  Speaker 2: had what may be one of the worst people near me.
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  Speaker 2: Other activities going on during a movie. I've had people talking.
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  Speaker 2: I've had people. I don't get a lot of texting, actually.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people complain about that. I haven't had
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  Speaker 2: tons of that, but I've heard a lot of other
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  Speaker 2: weird food noises and other things. Guy next to me
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  Speaker 2: last time. Was dipping.
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  Speaker 5: Ew.
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  Speaker 7: Ew.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So, it's a horror movie. It's quiet. I'm like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: here we are. We're waiting for this tense moment. And
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  Speaker 2: you'd hear it into his cup that he brought with him.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe in other parts of the world you don't have
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  Speaker 2: this horrible phenomenon. But, yeah, people carrying around a cup
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  Speaker 2: so they can spit into it is kind of disgusting.
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  Speaker 5: That is... Number one, one of the grossest things normally?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: That was rough. So, one more reason I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: put a much better spin on it when I thought
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  Speaker 2: that next time. Not just to make my insane notes,
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  Speaker 2: but also so that I could not have that. So,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even have anybody in the seat next to
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  Speaker 2: me yesterday. So, thank you very much, people who weren't
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  Speaker 2: that close around me, for making it a much better experience.
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  Speaker 2: It also was a little more interactive, which... Again, normally
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  Speaker 2: I don't like, but horror movies, it's kind of okay sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: It can be fun.
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  Speaker 2: Because it adds to the experience, so we did have
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  Speaker 2: several people behind me. Also, a lot of children voices.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care, but I'm just like, this is an
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  Speaker 2: odd movie to bring your child to, but I guess, again,
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  Speaker 2: we kind of encourage kids to be dark and creepy early, so.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If they're cool with it and nobody was like crying,
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  Speaker 2: it was always people making comments like, don't go in there.
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing? You know, so some of them
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  Speaker 2: were younger. And then there was what it sounded like
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  Speaker 2: a couple or something a few rows back that every
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  Speaker 2: few minutes would be like, oh, man, like just sort
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  Speaker 2: of loud responses that kind of were funny and kind
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  Speaker 2: of enhanced.
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  Speaker 3: It a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: That's fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw my nine-year-old niece yesterday, the spooky one,
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  Speaker 1: and she asked, one of the first things she asked was,
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  Speaker 1: have you seen the new Scream movie? And I was like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I have. Have you? Luckily, she said no, but I
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  Speaker 1: think she wants to.
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  Speaker 6: She should.
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  Speaker 1: It's fine.
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  Speaker 2: I guess.
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  Speaker 1: She's probably seen worse.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to guess, yeah. I don't think this movie
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  Speaker 5: was that, which we'll get into further on, but it
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  Speaker 5: wasn't too over the top.
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  Speaker 1: It was no spooky mirror witch, but jump scared.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: And thankfully didn't have any funny noises along the way.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. I feel like by the time I
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  Speaker 5: got to the end of that movie, I got used
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  Speaker 5: to the slide whistle.
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  Speaker 2: Courtney Cox makes a joke. Wacky noises in the background. No,
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  Speaker 2: thank you.
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  Speaker 5: See, and for those of you wondering what the hell
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  Speaker 5: we're talking about right now, if you join the horror club,
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  Speaker 5: You can go back and find out, and this will
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  Speaker 5: become hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: See, it is a club, so there's an ongoing journey
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  Speaker 2: that we're going on here, and we quite often reference
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  Speaker 2: previous movies that we've seen and sort of tie them in.
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  Speaker 2: There are weird... This will be a really good week
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  Speaker 2: to go into that. There are overarching horror themes and
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  Speaker 2: things that happen and sometimes are very time stamped and
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  Speaker 2: sometimes change with the times and these are also the
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: things we dig into at the horror club so plug
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: plug before we you know return to scream we've already
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: thrown it out there but um I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you've seen anything else lately. I definitely have one that's
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  Speaker 2: a nice little intro into the Scream world. Did anyone,
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  Speaker 2: it just came out this weekend, did anyone already watch
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  Speaker 2: The woman in the house across the street from the
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  Speaker 2: girl in the window.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't.
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  Speaker 5: But that popped up on my Netflix thing yesterday. And
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, I have to watch this just for the
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  Speaker 5: title alone.
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  Speaker 2: The beginning of the week, Kristen Bell was already on
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  Speaker 2: TV or internet promoting it. And I was like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: I'm already sold with anything. Like, she's always entertaining.
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  Speaker 5: Well, as soon as you said Kristen Bell.
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  Speaker 2: I love Kristen Bell.
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  Speaker 3: Idiotic.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to start watching it right now.
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  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, that's the thing. And then I realized...
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  Speaker 2: It was her... And at first I thought it was
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: a movie, and that's what I planned to... Okay, I'll
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: watch that this weekend. And then it popped up, and
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: I was like, damn, series. That's what usually kills it
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  Speaker 2: for me. Thankfully, I think even in the description, it
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: mentions that it wraps it up relatively quickly. It's like
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: eight episodes, but they're like 25 minutes with credits.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, hell.
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  Speaker 2: So you knock it out in a few hours, you've
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: got the whole thing in. So I ended up watching
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  Speaker 2: it all this weekend already. So it... At this point,
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: sometimes I wonder how they get these projects greenlit. And
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: I mean this in the best possible way, but because
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: it fits like my sense of humor, but it is
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  Speaker 2: so specific in what it's trying to do, like overall,
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: like the way that it's approaching this comedy, because it is,
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  Speaker 2: it works as an intro for this because the whole
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  Speaker 2: thing is a whodunit and you're spending the whole series
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure out who this killer is and who's
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  Speaker 2: doing this and what this person and all these red
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: herrings and all this crazy stuff going on. So it
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: very much falls into the category of what we are
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: going to come back to with scream, but it's doing
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  Speaker 2: it as, as a comedy. And it is like at
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  Speaker 2: times out and out silly, but so much of it
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: is played so straight that I'm like, Not to make
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  Speaker 2: fun of the normal people, but there's so many that
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: are going to be like, this movie's weird. Nobody's necessarily
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  Speaker 2: going to be, I guess from the presentation, it's supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be a comedy, so I guess they'll know going in,
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: but it's so subtle in the way it eases into
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  Speaker 2: it that you're almost like, wait, is this a comedy?
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: And then at times it gets really silly, and you're like, okay, no,
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: this is a comedy, but they are so straight about it.
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  Speaker 2: And they're so specifically making fun of these type of stories,
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  Speaker 2: which every girl on the train, girl in the, it's
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  Speaker 2: very specifically the woman in the window that just came out.
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  Speaker 2: It is straight up just mercilessly making fun of that one.
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  Speaker 2: The Amy Adams crazy can't leave her house staring out
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  Speaker 2: the window all day movie that just came out like
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  Speaker 2: a year ago. So it is specifically making fun of
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  Speaker 2: that one, but also kind of every other like mystery
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  Speaker 2: and wannabe and, anybody sitting there listening to true crime
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  Speaker 2: will probably like get this kind of humor well at
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: least the topic the humor i don't know because again
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  Speaker 2: the way that they approach it is very almost understated
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  Speaker 2: at times to then turn around and do things that
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  Speaker 2: are really ridiculous other times so it's it's odd i'm
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  Speaker 2: intrigued yeah i really enjoyed it but i do feel
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  Speaker 2: like some people are just gonna be like.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what to do with this do i
• 13:22
  Speaker 5: need to watch the amy adams movie first.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a little funnier. I didn't hate that one.
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  Speaker 2: And that does have an impressive cast. So it's worth
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  Speaker 2: watching that Amy Adams movie.
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  Speaker 5: Just haven't gotten around to it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's still on there. So it will be
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: a nice, you know, extra long double feature. But it's, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. And I think what they're doing is
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  Speaker 2: really funny. But it is such an odd approach. So
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: that's why I was like, How do you get that
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  Speaker 2: sort of a thing and that such a specific type
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  Speaker 2: of comedy and sense of humor to be multi-million dollar Greenland?
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: Because it's again, it's a well-made thing. It's not cheap.
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  Speaker 2: It looks nice and they got real actors and like
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: it's very well put together. So yeah, I just, there's
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  Speaker 2: so many series out there. Sometimes I don't understand how
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  Speaker 2: you sell that many and for most of them to
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: be well financed and not everybody gets you know, some
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: of them don't take off at all. So I don't know,
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: but it's definitely worth watching. If you're okay with, you know,
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: mysteries and or comedy, if it's your type of comedy,
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: if not, probably after an episode or two, you'll be like, Nope,
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: I'm done.
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  Speaker 1: At least it's not a big time investment.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: 20 minutes. You'll just be like, I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: they're doing here. I'm going to go find something else
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  Speaker 2: to watch.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I finally subscribed to, uh, A certain horror-specific streaming service.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: That's not plugging us. So who cares? If they'd like
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: to come on board, we'll definitely promote them every week.
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  Speaker 2: But until then, some horror streaming service. Some horror streaming service.
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  Speaker 1: But I will say I'm really excited about it because
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  Speaker 1: they have a lot of really cool stuff.
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  Speaker 2: If it's the one I did the little trial on,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff on there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's the one I'm thinking of, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I watched all of Eli Roth's History of Horror,
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  Speaker 1: which I don't even like Eli Roth. I think he's
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: kind of a douche, but it's nice because the focus
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  Speaker 1: isn't really on him. He is interviewing other people.
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  Speaker 2: He's the horror Tarantino.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: As a person, he seems kind of annoying, but he's
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: so schooled on what he does, you kind of have
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: to give him a pass. If you're a movie fan,
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  Speaker 2: you have to be impressed with him because he has
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: the wealth of knowledge. I have to be interested in
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  Speaker 2: what you say, even if sometimes you're kind of annoying.
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  Speaker 1: And he does. It's super detailed and a really cool
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: overview of all these different topics and all these different eras.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: So I've been getting into those documentary things on there,
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  Speaker 1: which is fun. I haven't watched any of their original
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  Speaker 1: movies yet, even though I've been reading about a lot
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  Speaker 1: of those that are supposed to be good. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited to get more into that one.
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  Speaker 2: That'll give us more stuff. But then we all have
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  Speaker 2: to subscribe.
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  Speaker 7: I know.
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  Speaker 2: That's how they get you.
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  Speaker 1: I bet you could find a bunch of the older
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  Speaker 1: ones on YouTube or something. All the weird ones.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: That is where we find a lot of our weird
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: stuff these days.
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  Speaker 1: It's true. Or, I mean, a non-sponsoring video streaming service.
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  Speaker 2: Eh, you can't fight them.
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  Speaker 3: They're too huge.
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  Speaker 1: It's true.
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  Speaker 2: They run the world at this point.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: It's true. But yeah.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: I have i'm behind the curve on this one but
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: i finally started watching only murders in the building yay
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: which yeah the first episode i was like oh this
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  Speaker 5: is okay then it gets to the sort of reveal
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  Speaker 5: at the end and i'm like i have to watch
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  Speaker 5: this and i was not able to stop watching it
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: and i got i get that i got to like
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: the end of the third episode and and kim a
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  Speaker 5: started my wife started to Just as she was going
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  Speaker 5: in and out of the room, started to get invested
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  Speaker 5: in it.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on here?
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  Speaker 5: Now I have to go back and re-watch them so
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: she can see them, which I'm okay with, but I
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: have to wait until we can watch them all together. Otherwise,
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: it's streaming cheating.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I know. I mean, that is true. That stuff is
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: serious when you're in a relationship.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: We've had... It's come up. On both sides. On both sides.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: It's no joke, man. I get it. You betrayed me.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: That's why I haven't watched as many movies on that
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: service as I want to because my boyfriend is studying
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: for the bar exam all the time. So he'll still
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: be next to me, but he'll have earplugs in. And
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: so I'm like, well, I don't want to watch anything
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: good if you're not paying attention too because then I'm
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: going to tell you about it and then you're going
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: to want to watch it and then we're going to
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: have to do it again.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Just combine your efforts.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: But he didn't really like only murders in the building
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and I never finished it. So maybe that's the.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: One that I'll watch next. I was thinking that with
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the Kristen Bell thing, I was just like, it's, it
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: seems like it's, I mean, they had to already be
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: working on it, but it seems like it's good timing
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: for that because we just had one that was a
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: little bit comedy, mostly mystery. And then definitely was a
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: streaming version that this is sort of, Only it's Netflix,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: so they just dropped them all. You didn't have to wait.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Because when I watched it the first time, it was
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: once a week. That's how Hulu was doing it. So,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: it's like this time, Netflix just dropped them and you
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: can go through the whole thing. So, I think that'll
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: kind of come in handy coming off of that, you know,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: all the fan base for Only Murders in the Building.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: You can watch this and knock it out.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: There's so many true crime fan, podcast fans.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: Right now, it's nuts. People that I never would have
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: thought would have cared about that sort of thing and
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: It's very strange. I mean, I like it because I'm
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: morbid and twisted.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: See, I like it within reason, but I don't seek
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: it out and dive into it the way so many
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: people do because I'm like, I have enough darkness in me.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I don't need to seek out more horrible stories. If
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: you're making a movie, then it's fun. I know it's fake.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Hearing the real stories of these horrible things that happened
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: to people that probably didn't deserve it, I have enough
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: of it. horror inside i don't need to bring in
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: extra so every once in a while i'm like just
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: just make that a movie and i'll watch it later
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: yeah i don't need to hear somebody.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Talk about it for hours That's probably wise because I'm
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: like the opposite. I listen to so many of those
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: and I am the most anxious person alive. I'm just
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: constantly terrified.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: You're fueling the darkness.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much is like, be prepared.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Anything could happen.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: And how much is just never leave my house ever
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: again or talk to anybody. So, you know. But if
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: someone tries to kill me, good luck.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I just know, Danette. leave the house or trust anyone
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: so once you got that out of the way you
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: know you're.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Good yeah never leave the house never let anyone into
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: your house never get into your car never but never
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: walk anywhere never make friends with anyone But don't become
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: a hermit because then if you get murdered, no one
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: will notice you're missing for like weeks.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: Which is honestly my biggest concern.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Your cat's totally going to eat you.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: And your cat's going.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: To eat you.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: I am okay with my, if I die and the
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: cats eat me, I say bon appetit.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: They're like waiting now. They're like, finally! Because I know
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: it'll be weeks.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: If not months before someone finds me. And I don't
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: want them to go hungry.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: This is my last gift to you.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: It's the circle of life. The circle of hermit life.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: One of them will lick me occasionally and I'm wondering.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: If that's just a preview. Where do you guys keep
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the salt? Might need this later. Anyway, have a nice day.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Alright.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Are we ready? to get into i think so yeah.
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: Get more out of life go out to.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: A movie this.
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: Isn't funny amber what do you like Doors unlocked. Oh,
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: my God! All doors locked. Doors unlocked.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Hello? It's happening.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Three attacks so far. Do you have a gun?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I'm Sidney Prescott.
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: Of course I have a gun.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Something about this.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: One just feels different.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Samantha?
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I know who you are. I've been through this.
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: A lot.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: This is your life now, which means that whoever this
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: is is going to keep coming for you.
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: You ready?
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: This there's.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Certain rules to surviving attacks were all on people related
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: to the original killers.
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: Whatever his link is to our past it's pulled.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Us all back here and.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: I won't sleep until he's in the ground.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: You don't have no self-respect.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: You feel like an insect.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Well, don't you worry, buddy, because here he comes.
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: Through the ghettos and the barrio and the barrio and
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: the slum.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: His shadow is cast wherever he stands.
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: Stacks of green paper in his red right hand.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: All right, as we said, we left the house. We
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: didn't follow our own rules that we just said. We
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: left the house and went out on the town. So
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: this week's Out on the Town Horror Club feature is Scream. Wait,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: didn't we already have a movie with that? We'll get
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: back to that later. The year is 2022. The directors,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: let's see if I can get these, Matt Battinelli and
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Tyler Gillette.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: Not the hardest names we've had to pronounce.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Tyler, yeah, Tyler, you know. He's keeping it real. He's
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: just got a nice razor name, but I had to
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: figure out that first one. But, yeah, these two seem
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: to work together pretty consistently, so we'll get to them
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: as well. And they plot according to IMDb, which, let's see,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: what was the issue with this one? All right, yeah,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I already have issues with it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Well, first of all, if you've seen any of the
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: other Scream movies, do you really need a plot synopsis?
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Kind of.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Kind of? Because according to IMDb, 25 years later.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I guess that's important.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: 25 years after the original series of murders in Woodsboro,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: a new ghost face emerges and Sidney Prescott must return
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: to uncover the truth.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: Eh.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know that Sidney's uncovering the truth. She's in
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the vicinity when truth is revealed. I don't know that
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: she's like figuring out a mystery.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: She's adjacent to the truth.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Somebody is, but she's just sort of in the vicinity.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: It was nice to see her again.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: Definitely.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I just thought that was a weird way to phrase it,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: like it's a Nancy Drew mystery. Well, it is, but
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: she's not Nancy Drew this time. So, spoiler alert, we're
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: going to ruin this movie, and I'm assuming along the way,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: every other Scream movie. So, spoilers for this new movie
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: and every previous Scream movie. You've been warned. I would
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: assume by now you've already seen them all. There, that
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: having been said. Where would you like to begin?
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Well, I'd like to where you just said with the
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: if you've probably seen them already. If you haven't, there
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: is enough exposition in the first 30 minutes of this
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: movie to make you feel like you've seen all of
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: them and more so.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: And they definitely said, I mean, this is that sort
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: of bookend thing to the first one. But they work
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: in references and characters from all of them. Even the
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: non-West one. We've got one of our main characters is
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: direct tie into the fourth movie. So it's like they
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: don't really leave any of it out. Everything is in there.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: But the bulk of it ties to that first movie.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: And I get it. 25 years has gone by. And
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: I don't remember how long. It's been like what? A
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: dozen years?
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: It's like 11 I think since 4 came out.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: So I get it. But there was a lot of. Oh,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: this happened, and then this guy did this.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I think it fits, though, because, I mean, other than,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I guess it's, if you live in that town, it's
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: probably super redundant, but it's a whole new generation of
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: kids who wouldn't have known any of that. They weren't
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: born by the time any of this was going on,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: so it's good for them to be discussing it, because
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: it makes sense. You know, they don't remember it. You know,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: our old characters are all there for that. They remember,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: but any of the kids who are the bulk of
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: our cast wouldn't have known any of this. So they
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: do have to kind of discuss the basics. So I
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: was okay with all that.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: I didn't say I wasn't okay with it. There was
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: a lot.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: There is a good amount of exposition.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: And packed in like ones when the scene where they're
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: driving to Woodsboro, it's like, oh, come on, get the killing.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, there's some killing.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Well, we do get a new opening. I mean, that
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: is the screen thing is the opening scene, the opening
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: kill scene. And they immediately found a way to vary
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: it up. So I give them points for that. This
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: is the first time we haven't killed the character. And
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I think that's kind of cool and interesting and definitely
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: puts a different spin on this because number one, that
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: character is very important throughout the rest of the movie. Also,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I think Jenna Ortega is the MVP of this movie.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: She is so good. Like I've, again, I've been watching
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: her since she's a child. She's still kind of a child.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: It's weird that she's been making stuff as long as
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: she has, but watching her again yesterday, I was like,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: her scene. Everybody's good in it, but she is just solid.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: To be as young as she is, she's a hell
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: of an actress.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: In that first scene, going back to the first one,
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Drew Barrymore's character, I didn't care if she was killed
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: or not, but this girl, when she's playing the game
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: with the guy, I'm like, she's actually being Smart about this.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: She has the advantage to where she can Google stuff,
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: unlike Drew's character. But then when the actual attack happens,
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: she's such a badass.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: And she's doing smart things. She's trying, at least, to
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: call 911. She's trying to keep her house locked up.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: And she's actually fighting back. She's doing damage to the guy.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was invested in her character more so than
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: any of the other opening characters.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Scenes yeah I was like this will be an interesting
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: twist if she lives through this first scene how is
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: that going to change the dynamic of the rest of the.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Movie yeah I like that they changed that up because
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: again it's five times in it's like how much can
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: you keep i mean by the fourth one it was
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: a joke if you remember the opening to the fourth
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: one there are three different variations a fake out and
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: a fake out and like a fake version of a
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: stab thing and like so they were already making fun
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: of the fact that that's how all their movies open
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: so it's like to do it straight again and stick
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: to that same premise and this Pattern that they always do.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: It's just, yeah, it would have seemed kind of a
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: little too run of the mill. So I do like
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: that they make a big change by letting her live.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: And it fits the plot as we go on, because
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: would the sister have come back if she was dead?
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Would she have come back just for the funeral or
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: would she have? hadn't seen her in five years maybe
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: not but her still being alive definitely kind of has
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: reason to go back there so it does kind of
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: make sense too because this not to jump all the
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: way to the end but this This ghost face is
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: doing things for different reasons than previous ones. So it
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: is a little more calculated in the way that they
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: do these things.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: And I also loved her little monologue about elevated horror.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Because she likes your smart movies.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's me.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: She likes all your movies. I know. I love her.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: That's probably also why I was so invested. I was like,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: it's me. Don't kill me.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: Come on.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did like the fact that she not only
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: liked smart movies, but was specifically like, and that's why
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I like them. I don't like this other stuff. And
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I haven't bothered to watch it. Like the fact that
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: she's just kind of, I don't know, once when I
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: was at a sleepover like these lame horror movies are
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: for children i like smart horror movies i'm like well
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: i gotta appreciate.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: That i need devastating undercurrents of grief and loss.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Not just a stabby.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Guy which to be fair i like both again that was.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: My thing like i enjoy my slashers as well but
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: there is something to be said about you know the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: babadook's a badass yeah It Follows is really smart the
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: way that it does its thing. It's like, yeah, I
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: appreciate those kind of.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Things.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Hello, Sidney.
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: Hello there. Where'd you go?
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Oh, this isn't Amber.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: I'm the other one.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, there's two of you.
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: Again. I've seen this movie before.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Not this movie, Sidney.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: You really need some new material.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I got you here, didn't I?
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: He might actually be the most derivative one among them
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: in Christ the same house. Maybe so. You forgot the
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: first rule of surviving a Stan movie. Never answer the door.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: I'm bored. Wait!
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Well, that does get to what I think one of
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: the main things I wanted to get to, and I
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: was noticing, not just this time, every single time. I
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: think I brought it up recently, that one of the
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: things Scream has always done as a franchise was sort of,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Because it's referential to horror movies, it also kind of
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: has to address the fact that things are changing, not
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: just within the franchise, but within the world. So again,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: like the first movie is all, you know, we were
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: already dealing with, oh, it could be a cell phone.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: You know, that was a big revolution in the 90s that,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: you know, they could be standing outside your window talking
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: to you, which happens again in this movie. But even
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: by the second one, they're already making the joke of, okay,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I have caller ID. I know who it is. So
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: they're upping it with technology each time. So by the
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: time we get to this movie, it's like we have
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: so many updates to it that are being integrated into
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: the horror thing that we've got not only, I mean,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: they were definitely working in by the fourth one that
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: texting is just routine for people now. So the fact
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: that you can use that as part of your tool,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of horror movies try to do that,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: but they definitely found a way to work that in
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: effectively in this movie. But even like the fancy door locks,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: like you said, she's trying to keep the doors locked. Well,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: now someone can override that. And so you're, they're using
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: technology to protect themselves. And at the same time, we've
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: got the killer that can find new ways to get
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: into your house because of this technology. So I thought
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: that was kind of cool.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: Well, I think, walking into this movie i remember thinking
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: man this this you know i tried to be as
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: open-minded as i could about it but i was like
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: this stream there's only so much you can do without
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: stepping too far out of the boundaries of what it's
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: set up for itself or so i thought and i
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: thought this is going to be very well-worn territory when
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: we walk in and even when the phone rang the
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: first time i'm like who has a landline and they
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: even they called themselves out on that kind of which
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Which is kind of what they've always done.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: They've always been smart about calling themselves out.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to get into this later. The
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: whole series has always been very self-aware. This movie, at
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: a couple of times, I was like, okay, maybe this
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: is too self-aware. But they did bring it back to
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: a level where you're like, okay, I get it. I
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: get what you're doing here.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I think it's definitely by the end, not really any
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: more self-aware than it needs to be based on what happens.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: And at the same time, it's not like it's a
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: different thing. Go back and watch that first movie. It
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: is nothing but Randy explaining how horror movies work. Everybody
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: in the cast goes... constantly making movie references like it's
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: just it's kevin williamson so that's what he does like
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: it is just everybody even the non-geeky characters just sort
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: of speak in geek talk like it is just the
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: it's a different language than even normal movies and normal
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: people speak something well not me but outside of this
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: room i can't normally have those kind of conversations but
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: like they're sort of everybody seems to talk that way
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: yeah and so i think it's that steeped in geekiness
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: that like it fits right in in this movie too
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: i think everybody and in that little group seemed like
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: they all kind of knew that stuff anyway i.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: Think that was a big part of what made the
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: original one so successful as a movie because you're not
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: you're not just watching a movie you're watching a diatribe
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: on how movies how ridiculous they are but how effective
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: they can be And they brought it back full circle
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: with this one, I felt like. I think they kind
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: of got away from that by the third and the
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: fourth one a little bit.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Everyone, and that's what I was thinking as we get to...
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if we want to
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: jump to this yet. But by the end, they all
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: have a bigger thing that they're sort of examining as
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: they go on. So I don't know if we want
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: to wait until we get to the big reveal. But yeah,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: definitely there's kind of a bigger... Again, they're almost making
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: a commentary as they go, which that first one definitely was.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: And then each one kind of chooses a new avenue
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: of like, all right, well, how about this? So it's
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: like they each kind of have a different approach to
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: this same general idea.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: I feel like we almost need to just go scene
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: by scene with this freaking movie.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot to work with.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: There's a lot to talk about.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Let me check through my random in the dark scribbling
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: that I did. See what I had here. I mean,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: we do, we, we get like our introduction to the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: new characters, but I guess our first legacy character is Dewey.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: And I will give him credit too, because seeing him
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: as a regular person, but Dewey like so different. And
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: like you, by that first movie, like everybody kind of
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: loved Dewey. Like you just, yeah. such a likable character.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: And so as time's gone on, like you really have
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: logged in all this time with this character and like,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: he's sad. It's just, it's such a bad place, but
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: he's still like, it doesn't, it doesn't totally rob him
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: of who he is. Like that essence of who that
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: character is, is still there. And like, yeah, I was
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: surprised how effective that still is 25 years in.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Think about Dewey too. Like, Everything he's been through.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: Like all the people in his life that he's lost.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: You know, his little sister, all of his friends. And
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, she's not dead, but his wife, I don't
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: know if they were ever married. I can't remember, but
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: definitely at.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: One point, but yeah, they've been together several times now. Yeah.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: So yeah, he's, he's had a rough run and, and
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: more than the other, like, again, I, Gail's never really
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: done anything for me. she serves her purpose in the
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: plot but like i don't know if it's just courtney
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: or the character of gail weathers but from the beginning
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: i'm like are we done with her yet and sydney's
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: cool like sydney's there to be our central character but
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: she again especially earlier on i think i like her
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: more as she's aged into it but like in the
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: beginning she didn't have tons of like her own specific
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: personality so much so that even like again you come
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: out way more attached to dewey i feel like than
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: sydney that first movie she's just our final girl but
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: like there's so much weird quirky like personality to dewey
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: that like you really do sort of attach yourself to
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: him so i think of the three he is the
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: one that you're kind of a little more invested in
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: and because he's been through so much and i don't
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: know so yeah it was kind of good to get
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: back to that.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I love the scene with him and the gang of
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: youths where they're all in their like living room going
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: over kind of, I mean, explaining to us what this
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: pattern that we've seen over and over. And like, here
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: are some hot tips early on to figure out who
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: it's going to be. And they're just like razzing him
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: and doing their amazing, you know, meta horror movie commentary
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: discussion and everything. But I thought that was so funny.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: I even love how, where they're like, you know, maybe
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: it's you, Dewey. And he's like, yeah, maybe it is me. But,
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I do like at that point and by the
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: end of the movie, too, they're just like, yeah, it's
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: just smart for us to all assume the other person
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: did it, even when it's me.
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: I agree.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: It's a good idea that you don't trust me, even
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: though I know I didn't do it. But I would
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: tell you that even if I did do it. So
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: it's best that you don't trust me. Yeah. It all
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: becomes this big roundabout discussion that I'm like from the beginning.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, really don't don't trust anybody. And that
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: includes me. Like if anybody's got reason to be messed up,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: it's me. So it probably could be me.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: And I don't remember what the, one of the kids
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: says to him, but his response of like, well, maybe
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: you're the killer. Cause that was cold.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: It's cause he called him out for his whole life.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: And you're fired from your job and you crawled into
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: a bottle. And he's like, you like cut deep. I
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: was like, again, I'm like, this is why we love
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: doing like, he's just, he's just sappy. And yeah, he
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: gets attached and he gets his feelings hurt. And like,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: So yeah, he's such a real person that you genuinely
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: start to love that character.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: I remember watching the first Scream movie and there's a
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: scene early on where the phone rings in the house
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: and it goes through the whole thing and then it's
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: done and then he picks it up and they've clearly
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: hung up and he's like, hello? And I remember thinking,
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: I can't wait until this guy gets killed. And then
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: as time has gone by, I'm like, he's the one
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: character I don't want to die.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: And I think was supposed to in that first movie. Probably.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: And like, even by them making it, I think they realized,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: oh no, we should probably keep him around. Like even
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: if we don't make more movies, he's just such a
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: lovable character. We want him to come out okay in
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: the end. So I think they sort of retooled it
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: by the end of the movie to keep him around.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: So little did they know, 25 years later, he's still
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: playing the same guy. But again, we have him like
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: right off the bat kind of nailing the scenario. Not
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: only this is what you need to look for, but
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: not to jump to the end yet, but he nailed it.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: He nailed it right off the bat. He's just like, well,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: here's the most likely scenario. And he's right. So it's
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: kind of good to see even though they ask him
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: to leave his job, he's still a pretty good detective really.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: They once again don't disappoint on our not so subtle
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: reference names. Our lead is Samantha Carpenter from one of
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: those Wes Carpenter movies, you know. So, yeah, I thought
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: that was, again, if we're gonna, it's not like it
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: was subtle the first movie, so let's continue the tradition
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: and definitely give her that name.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Well, and of course, her friend Wes, which I didn't
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: even make the connection.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I didn't really think about it that much, but yeah,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: they did specifically rename the character.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: And so much so that at the end of the
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: movie when the credits start to roll and it says
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: dedicated to wes or for wes or whatever it says
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: the guy behind the one person in the theater that
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: was there behind me he starts laughing huh for wes
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: so i don't even think he got you mean that
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: guy yeah i think yeah i think he meant oh
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: you mean the guy with the two-tone hair see.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah i went through the whole movie knowing this character
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: was Wes, after he dies, they have that big party
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: where everybody's going for Wes and there's four Wes in
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: like balloons. And then when the credits rolled, it said
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: for Wes, I was like, oh, like an idiot.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: But I got it then.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Just didn't make that connection.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I do, again, like, it is interesting, this being
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: what it is. And like, I remember, So many times
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: in a couple of months ago, whatever it was, when
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: all these people went to go see the little, like, again,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: reboot of Ghostbusters. And all these texts and posts about,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I got all choked up in the theater. It brought
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: back all these feelings. And I'm like, eh, whatever. I
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: like Ghostbusters, but whatever. Like, I just kind of blew
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: it off. And then I got to this one and
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I get it.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Because there was Midway In and I was just like, No,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: this is it. This is why, like, this is why
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I'm at these horror movies. And, like, you get to
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: the recall speech, and I'm just, like, hearing a character
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: as dorky as I am just rambling on to their
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: friends about how important this horror movie is. And I'm
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: just like, no, this is it, man.
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: I understand.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Getting book-climbed in the theater.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: They even brought up movies that we have talked about.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: specifically black Christmas.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: And I was like, we, cause we have our own love,
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: hate relationship with that franchise. And we were like, we
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: just talked about that.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Well, and they do, they, they fire off so many there.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, yeah. I was like, it all like,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: you can't argue with any of this. Like it's a
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: very sound discussion they have there because I'm like so
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: much of that really, especially that first one is like
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: just laid out perfectly that I'm like, Okay, I have
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: to like her. Regardless, she's got this much schooled into
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: her DNA, which, again, she is a randy kid. Yeah,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: it is interesting that they launch into that, and so
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: much of that makes everything else kind of fall into
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: place eventually. Because the movie itself is self-aware, you in
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: the audience have to be kind of self-aware of like, okay,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: this is what they're doing. on purpose and within the
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: plot you know it's like they are toying with both
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: ends of this.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: They're actually telling me the audience member you don't like
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: anything that hollywood does anymore and you all you want
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: is for hollywood to do the same old thing but
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: then you bitch about when they do the same old thing.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: So here you go I was like grinning through that
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: entire scene. I was just like, it's so good. I'm like,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: this is what we sound like.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: This is what I sound like anytime someone's like, you
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: don't seem like you'd be really into horror movies. And
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: then I just go off.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: I'm just like, yes.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: You give them a little speech like that and they're like, whatever,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I quit listening. I know, exactly.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: It's like you either are like, yes, or you're just like, okay.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: That was me yesterday. She went into it again because
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I knew it was coming. I was just like.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: This is the greatest thing ever.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I love her. Mindy. Mindy.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Geeks talking movies.
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: That's my thing.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: So, but yeah, so much of that made sense. And
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: then like, that's why, like, I think that's one of
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: the first things, like when I sent that text out,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I just need, I just saw this.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: I need to talk to somebody.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Cause I'm like, it is so, I feel like a
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: lot of that is just flat out Halloween. Like it
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: is just nailing everything about that book. reboot, recalling of Halloween.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: So much of it, I'm like, yeah. Of all the
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: things that we were upset about, I'm like, this is it,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: and this is why, and this is exactly pinpointing what
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: they did to try to make everything work, and sometimes
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: it does, and sometimes it doesn't.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: When I was watching it, Halloween definitely came up a
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: lot in my mind. I'm thinking this is where Halloween
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: went off the rails, or did it completely wrong, or
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Kinda did it right.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: You know, that's what I was going to ask you guys.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Cause I'm not even sure. I'm like, I'm watching this
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: and I'm really enjoying this movie, but I'm like, what
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: is this doing differently than the others? Other than being
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: self-aware about it all. But that I think couldn't totally
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: save it on its own. I think there's something else
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: going on that like somehow this one, other than all
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: the ones she rattled off. And I'm like, yeah, nobody
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: liked that.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Nobody. All right. And I was like, so why is it?
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting here enjoying this one. When all of your
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: examples should prove you right and that nobody would like this.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: But I'm totally enjoying it. Can we figure out why?
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: What the difference is?
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: I think a small part of it is they looked
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: at the original and said, okay, what worked? What did
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: people like? What can we do that we're not totally
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: copying that?
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Which is hard. Five times. It's four times I've already
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: come along.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: And how do we give it just enough of a
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: twist so that it's different enough and that people still
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: like it? But we're not so far into left field
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: that people are just like, what the hell? Yeah, and
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: I think there's more to it than that.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: We walked out of this and I was like, I
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: loved it. And my boyfriend didn't really like it. Did
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: he like the first one?
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: And so that was kind of like, as we were
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: driving home, I'm like, Well, why not? And I'm like, wait,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: should I also not like it? Am I being dumb
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: for liking it? Or are you being dumb because you
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: didn't get it? So that's been my entire thought process
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: with this movie.
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: Two things I could possibly see where he doesn't, may
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: not have liked it. And that's when they get away
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: from Okay, somebody just got attacked or who did this
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: or somebody is being attacked. They get away from that
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: and the movie just slows way down when it starts
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: to go into like its little subplots or whatever. And
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: then two, there's really not a lot.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Of character development in this movie.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: Apart from the first girl and her sister, you know,
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: there's a little bit there. And Dewey we get like,
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: we learn a lot of new things about Dewey. But
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: other than that, it's like, I don't care. Even the twins,
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: like I like the twins, especially the girl like you
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: were just talking about. Even them, I was like, I
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: don't care if any of these characters live or die.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Which is pretty standard for a horror movie. So again,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Because they've done that with a lot
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: of them. There are several of the sequels that I'm
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: just like, I didn't. Like, it seems random by the
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: time they get to the finale. I'm like, I don't know.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't even care who these people were, and now
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: they're the killers. So it's like, by this one, it's
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: like at least you spend enough time with them that
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: you do feel like you're playing the same game they are.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, well, okay, so who is it? Because
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: it doesn't feel... As out of left field as some
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: of them have been. And we've at least logged in
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: a good amount of time with them. But we never
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: really spend a lot of time with anybody other than
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: our lead girl. And she really still doesn't get a
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: whole lot of development. We get her little crazy side
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: thing that goes on.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I think he also didn't like that. That was a
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: big one. He hated that.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: I did not like like i was fine with her
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: being billy's daughter i did not like the little.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Hallucinations of her i don't know how i still don't
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: know how i felt.
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: About number one you can keep skeet all rich you
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: know his You know, his bad boy good looks and
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: his not that bad of an actor. I forgot where
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: I was going.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but now he's like dad version.
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: They had to CG him up. So it's like, remember
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: 25 years ago when I was that guy?
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: They had to Princess Leia him up.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I thought the whole, oh, I'm going to
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: talk to my dead dad.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I liked it as an idea. Like, it's
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: interesting that they did go full CG and put him
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: there in the scene with her. it would be more
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: interesting if she was just sort of having conversations with
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: herself so that you that's true because it changes the
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: perspective when you also see the character and it does
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: seem like well maybe this is a real thing that's
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: going on and she is channeling this you know ghost
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: of her dead dad there is maybe some sort of
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: otherworldly thing going on versus if she's just sitting in
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: the car talking to herself you're like okay she is
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: maybe the killer because she's.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: Lost but that's the thing I feel like all that
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: was in there to make you think oh maybe she
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: is and Make her not even certain. Maybe I am
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: killing these people and don't realize it. But I never
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: felt that way. I never once thought, oh, she's probably
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: the killer and this is why.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Again, they don't, maybe because there's so many other things
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: going on, they don't invest a huge amount of time
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: into that. It's just sort of an extra side thing
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: thrown in there.
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: I almost feel like there's another version of this movie
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: where they cut a lot of that out. Like there
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: was a lot.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: More of that.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Or they're building it up for a sequel of some
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: sort where she kind of.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I think I didn't mind it. My first thought was
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: they were going to go with the, like, multiple personalities
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and other things, so I'm really glad they didn't. I
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: actually liked it at the very end where.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: She, you know, is in the.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: is gonna have to do the big final kill, and
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: she sees his reflection, and then she just, like, goes ham.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah! My boyfriend thought that was corny.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I thought it was corny, but, like, in a great way.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that they left that in.
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: It reminded me of the end of Friday the 13th,
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: the final chapter, where Corey Feldman kills Jason, which... To
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: say that out loud is very funny. But no, I
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: was like this at first. I was like, okay, this
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: is getting a little over the top. But then by
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: the end of it, I'm like, okay, this is awesome.
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: Especially when she blows his brains out.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: That was my, I mean, I had so much fun. Again,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: we're jumping to the end. But I was like, I
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: had so much fun with that. For like, because in
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: addition to I like the, you know, she's getting the
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: inspiration from our previously villain. is now like helping out
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: our hero.
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: But, and also he's dead. But in addition to that,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: I do like that with it, like toying with the
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: concept of the horror movie, that first time watching it,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, I tried not to yell it out
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: in the theater. Finally! I was like, in every movie,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: we're just like, just... wail on that dead body please
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: yeah get this over with and like every time they're
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: like i shot him once i think he's dead and
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: then they pop back up and like the joke in
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: the first one was they always come back and they
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: shoot him in the head well here it's just like
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: before we even get to that point like we already
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: like they bypass that and be like no no she's
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: just gonna go off on him so like watching her
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: like it was i was like giddy and laughing yesterday,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: which I feel like was disturbing the people around me,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: because I was really happy at that scene. And so, yeah,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I had so much fun with that response, that it's
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: just like, this is how you end a horror movie,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: even if it didn't make sense. Now, in this circumstance,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: it does, but if not, like, I don't care. Like,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: it is such a good finale of, like, this is
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: how you take out a killer in a horror movie.
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: In this movie, you've had, what, almost a week of
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: being tormented by this person, and then, of course.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Jumping into the spoiler, it turns out.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: To be your boyfriend that you've been with for however long.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Who's been right beside you the whole damn time.
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: You are perfectly justified to take out every frustration.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: And I feel like we don't get that in so
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: many horror movies when it would be justified. And they're
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: just like, well, I'm going to go talk to the
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: police now.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, no.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Take that motherfucker out. Go off on them because that's
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: what needs to happen at this point.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: This goes into another thing I've always said about horror movies.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: Everybody's dead. You've got the final girl, whatever.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: And it's like, well, it's over now.
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: Everything's good. But one of these things that the Scream
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: series has always stressed is like, no, it doesn't end.
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: Even if there's not other people coming to kill you,
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: you've got all this PTSD.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: All the trauma and oh, I've lost all my, all
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: this grief. And, and you know, that this, that's what
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: was nice about this. It's like, cause she even asked,
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: she's like, am I going to be okay?
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: What I was going to say.
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: The fact that this super self-aware movie even has the
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: character self-aware of like, I'm a little messed up. Like,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: am I going to be okay? And like somebody who's
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: been through as much shit as Sydney has is like, yeah, just,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: you gotta deal with it. You gotta give it some
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: time and work through all this.
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: Her response was, it was a good, healthy response, yes, eventually.
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: But my response to that would have been like, no,
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: you are not going to be okay.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: It's a rough road.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: Because once all the cops and ambulances are done here,
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: you have to go to home, or you have to
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: go home and figure out how you're going to sleep
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: tonight and then every other night for the rest.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: Of your life.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: And the thing about like another thing that I think
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: makes this different from Halloween or something is in a
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: couple of years, some asshole is going to do it again.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: It's going to wear that same costume and put you
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: through that same trauma and you're going to have to
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: help solve it. And so it's just like this never ending,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: like societal issue as opposed to this, monolith of a
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: he's still unkillable or whatever but at least it's just
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: this one guy and you could figure out those rules
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: you took out here it's like you're just always well.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: That's that raises a good question though and i thought
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: about this during the movie it's like do these people
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: do they not learn because all i'm talking about the
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: bad guys because in all of these they all end
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: up dead what makes them think that they're finally going
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: to be the one to get away with.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: It Now as you're saying that, I'm thinking more of
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: the town. I'm like, in Woodsboro, can you get like
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: ghost face insurance? I feel like you should be able
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: to if you live there because every couple of years,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: it's slashing people up again.
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: And what company is still making those masks? Can we
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: ban that costume?
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Actually, there is one because if you notice, I remember
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: sitting there in the credits, they had to re-license that
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: mask well that's why the costume company bought it outright
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: and nobody can use that unless they go through.
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: Them well that's why they didn't scream that's why they
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: couldn't that's why they couldn't do it for the tv
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: show that's why they had to go with a completely
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: different mask but i'm saying real world and that's another
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: thing i want to get to they they mention they
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: specifically mention what you say all the time about this
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: sort of movie is there's no stakes but Yeah, I
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: feel like in the real world, the first... Okay, maybe
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: the first killer to wear a mask like that.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: They might keep making it.
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: But over the second or third time, somebody's going to
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: demand that they pull that stuff off the shelf. And
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: you're not going to see it again.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: At the same time, and I've liked that about, I guess,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: the series. But definitely by the time we got to
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: that fourth one. Because the first three are within a
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: short amount of time. But by the time we come
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: back to that fourth one... it's again, it's moved on
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: to a new generation. So it is almost the legend
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: of Ghostface. So like at that point, and even in
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: the first three, you know, it's like anybody can be
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: the killer. Anybody can go get that mask. It's not
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: like it's something exclusive that like, well, only this guy
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: has it. And if he shows up, he's going to
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: kill you. Anybody can get that costume. Anybody can show
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: up and try to kill you. And it's why it
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: sort of perpetuates this thing every couple of years that
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: they even reference that too that like he's on the
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: phone going yeah every few years somebody you know some
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: idiot puts a mask on she said every decade people
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: again yeah yeah but even like the I was thinking
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: the David Arquette line that he's just like he's saying
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: like that's the thing this one she's needs to be
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: aware of because he says this one seems different So
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: that means there's all these other ones that are just
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: literally some idiot that like probably got shot by the
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: police and is like just put on a ghost face
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: mask and was out doing something stupid or has killed somebody,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: but they took him out in the front yard. You know,
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: it's like we're only seeing the big ones like Sidney
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: gets involved in. But like how many other ones along
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: the way has been some idiot in a mask? And
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, is that a separate series? Is that
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: what happens in the scary movie series? These are the
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: bad idiots that put on a funny looking ghost face
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: mask and they just go get stoned or something.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Well, and in the previous movies, Gale becomes bigger and
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: bigger because she always writes another book after whatever has
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: happened and she makes a point in this one to say,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to write about these two assholes. And
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: it made me think of, why would they do that
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: if they know they're just going to get killed? sadly
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: and darkly, it reminds me of like school shootings or
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: mass shootings where people know like, I'm going into this
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: knowing that I'm probably not going to come out, but
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I'll be famous and people are going to talk about it.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: And it's like, everything I did, even if it was horrible. Yeah.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: Definitely gets to the fourth.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: One or to prove their you know point yeah whatever
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: that i showed them yeah yeah okay so sadly that
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: our society's foot.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Which again is i think what it kind of finds
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: different ways to address along the ways like it it
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: does take on kind of bigger ideas than most slasher movies,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: you know? Usually there's no thought put into that kind
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: of stuff, where this, like, especially as the series goes on, like,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: each one starts addressing totally different things that, I don't know,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: we're far enough in now, I guess we could throw out, like, the...
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Because I was going through, I was like, because each one, like,
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: in the big killer soliloquy at the end, like, they
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: usually go off on what their thing is. Yeah. We
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: definitely have that at the end of this movie, but, like,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: the first one... it's pretty pure and simple. It's like
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: just horror movies, you know, and it's using each of
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: these things is almost like using the, the thing, whatever
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: their gimmick is, whatever the reason as like a, a
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: tool to be able to exploit their own craziness. So
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: by that first movie, it's like, okay, he's, he's jealous
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: and he wants, you know, he's, It's a revenge story anyway,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: so he's going to use this as an excuse, but
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: he can then reference, oh, the movies made me do it.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Movies make killers more creative. So it's just kind of
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: a basic version there, but each one sort of expands out.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: By that second one, they get into the judicial system.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Because our Mickey, not to spoil, I said we were
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: spoiling all of them. Mickey specifically says it's all about
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: the trial. It's like, and it's, I was like, what's
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: the timeframe on that? Looking back, it's two years after
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: the OJ verdict.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: So they're definitely coming out. He even name dropped the lawyer.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: So he's like, this is who I'm going to get to,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: you know, represent me because you can come out of anything.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: If you get the right lawyer and you put the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: right spin on everything, you can walk away. So like,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: that's definitely looking at the judicial system in this country
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: or world over. So, I mean, they've got that. Plus
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: you work in the Mrs. Loomis aspect, which is I'm
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: sick of everybody blaming the parents. So then it's like
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: this weird parenting thing that was definitely coming into play
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: then because you have something like school shootings. Do we
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: hold the parents responsible for that? Because maybe we should.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: So like you've got people in the real world, like
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: addressing these issues. So like each time these characters sort
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: of do that, The third one's sort of the least
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: in that. It's mostly just a revenge plot. It's more
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: of a spoiled brat. You got my life and I want...
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't get what my sister got. No fair.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: And the meta reference of Michael Myers and Laurie. They're
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: actually siblings.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: But it is... If anything, I guess it's more of a...
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of why I like the third one
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: more than most people. I like the... it's a movie.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: They're making a movie. It's a movie about them making
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: a movie about this series. So it's like the whole
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: thing is the snake eats its own tail. And I
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: like all the cheesy Hollywood references. But if there is
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: a weird, dark undercurrent of reality, it's the, the whole
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: story about her mom is very Polanski-esque. And like, so
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: it's a little like, Well, this is what Hollywood does
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: to people. This is what, you know, random kids that
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: come here, specifically young girls, and it eats them and
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: spits them out and they go back and have these
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: horrible lives after this. So, like, this is our weird
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: kind of a little bit of a commentary on that.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: Interesting. Now that I'm thinking about that, especially in light of.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: Harvey weinstein and the fact that that.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 9: Was that he backed one of his movies yeah that
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 9: jesus christ well i mean again not so subtle the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 9: character who becomes our killer who is comes into being
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 9: because of that horrible scenario is named roman.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah so i guess they're not subtle about it they're
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: The fourth one is maybe the first time it gets
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: really big and starts to get kind of grandiose. I
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: think the fourth and fifth wrap-ups are very much of
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: the same kind of a thing because the fourth one
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: is just fandom. It is just how to be a
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: celebrity at any cost. And that's the thing is you
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: don't have to do anything. You don't have to accomplish anything.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: All you have to do is be out there and
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: have fans. Like, that's all it takes is just getting
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: seen and people which pay attention to you.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: And that's all people want. Which is interesting. I know
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: that was a thing at the time.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: But how that's.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: Become so much more of a thing now.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: That's what's amazing is, like, they were still kind of
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: on the edge of that wave. And, like, now it's
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: just normal. It's just reality. It is everything that goes on.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: around us. So yeah, so much of that fourth one
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: is just a much bigger comment on not even like,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: I don't even care about you. It's just you are famous.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: So I want to be you so I can take
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: all of this attention. And again, not really even do
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: anything like she has no goals.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: She's just like.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: I just want to be famous. And then I don't
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: have to go through this normal workaday bullshit. I can
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: just do whatever the hell I want, even if it
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: means murdering people to get there.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Including her own mother.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Including her own mother. Her own family didn't care. So, yeah,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: that one definitely gets a much bigger comment, I feel like.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: And then that's... This one is mostly just... It's that
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: same idea, only focused on fandom. Specifically geek fandom and
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: how whiny and bitchy the internet people have become. And, like,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: what if we took those characters and just made them
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: killers in a movie? And, like, here you go. It's
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: exactly this wrap-up. Yeah.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 7: And they.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, they... Like, again, I like that whole... ending
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: from that angle because there's so much that both of
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: our characters say that's exactly just straight off of the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: internet like it is just word for word out of
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: some chat room somewhere that is like well they nailed.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: The the youtube reviews too like and i thought it
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: was funny when they showed ghost face with a flamethrower
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: and the shiny silver version of the yeah.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah Well, and they mentioned the horror subreddit, which I'm
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: on all the time.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: So I was like, uh. You're part of the problem.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Exactly. I'm like, maybe that's why I liked it so much.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Because I was like, well, I can't not like it.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Because they're talking to me. No, I mean, but I
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: try not to be. as whitey as people are on there.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: I don't think you've been so disgusted with a sequel
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: that you've gone out and murdered people so that the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: next sequel will be better.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: But she does a lot of things when she's not
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: over here on the show.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: I also feel like, unlike our ghost face killers, you'd
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: probably get away with it a little bit better.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: I know enough from all my true crime podcasts. But yeah,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: you do see stuff on there all the time of
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: people just being so toxic. And it's just like, why?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: It's just a movie.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, really.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: The phrase, this ruined my childhood. They bring that up?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: That's not a joke. That's everywhere.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Every time. And no matter how ridiculous the thing is
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: that they've remade or made a sequel to or whatever
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: they've done, even if it's a much lesser property that
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't think anybody would care about, somebody out there
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: is so upset about it. Yeah. And so angry that
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: like this almost isn't that far removed from the kind
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: of stuff that people would do.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: I have seen sequels and reboots of things I loved
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: as a kid. And yes, I was a little disappointed,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: but I'd like to think that I wasn't. It didn't
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: end my world.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: But I know that there are people out there, probably
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: people listening, who are probably very mad at me right
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: now for calling them out on it.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: We're talking to you.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Chill out.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Like, it is so much of that is, that's, again,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: why I liked it so much. It's just nailing everything
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: that's being said and kind of finding the way to
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: you know put an artistic spin on it be like
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: well what if we took that worked it into our
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: movie and then had a way for these characters to
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: try to defend themselves with the stuff that like they're
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: saying the stuff that you've probably said on the internet
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: in some way shape or form before you've been that
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: toxic about something before so Now suddenly it's like, Oh God,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: am I that? Have I crossed over that far? I'm
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: not murdering people yet, but I'm pretty.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: Bitchy about it.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: So it's like, where's the dividing line? So I don't know. I, I,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: that's kind of why I liked what it wrapped up with,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: because again, it's so meta. It's like what scream has
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: done best from the beginning. And like, It found a
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: way to still stay true to that version of the
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: horror fandom from the first movie. But just in that
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: 25 years, so much of the toxic fandom has just
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: so increased. It's such an unhealthy level that it makes
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: and breaks movies that are being made. It's like the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: things that got Greenwood were so... trashed by people that
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: they immediately pull the rug out from under and like
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: oh yeah well we can't do that because bitchy people
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: on the internet came along I do like that they
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: specifically made stab 8 directed by our the knives out
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: guy as they put it yeah and I'm like alright
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: that's a different genre but yeah you guys are 100%
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: on that one they lost their shit when he made
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: a movie that they didn't approve of and like Tell
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: me people in that fandom wouldn't be almost this insane. Like,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: they got so worked up over that. Like, to the
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: point they're writing to the studio that they want them
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: to remake that movie immediately. Oh, yeah. They wanted to
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: wipe it out of context. and give us a new
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: sequel to replace that one that we didn't like and
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: i'm like calm down get over yourself you are not
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: that important well.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: That's what they did with the freaking um game of
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: thrones oh gosh no We demand you to remake the finale.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: It's like, why? You didn't like it? That sucks.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Rabbit fandom. It's out of control. Again, the end of
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: this might seem ridiculous to some people, but I'm like,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: I don't think so either.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: It's taken an extra notch maybe, but for the most part,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: it's Pretty word for word accurate as to things going
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: on on the internet right now.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: I want to look, it probably won't be very hard,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: but I want to look.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: And see on the internet who is.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: Upset that this movie is calling out that people are
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: upset about reboots and sequels and what have you.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Again, it's like the snake eating itself.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: But how mad can you be at them? Because they're
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: doing it in their own movie, which is that.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: There's got to be somebody, probably right now as we
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: record this, going on.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 8: About how they say that the fans don't deserve what
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 8: the fans want. And we're going to petition to have
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 8: them rewrite Scream 5 or whatever.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, his stuff was so spot on that
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, it was such a whiny baby bullshit
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: that goes on when they make anything that's a popular
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: franchise or anything that they can be upset about. It's just,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: it's so frighteningly accurate.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: I hope someone's listening to this right now getting mad
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: at us.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Typing an email.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: They think they're so smart and clever, which we're not
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: smart and clever.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: I don't claim any of that, but I know what
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: I like. If you send us an angry email, we're
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: going to read it out loud over the podcast or
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: make fun of you, so try it.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: The thing was about this movie, I feel like if
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: I didn't get all the extra references and all what
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: it was trying to do and if i just watched
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: it just as a horror film on its own i
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: probably would have given it a b minus which is
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: not i don't feel like that's a bad grade for
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: for what i saw but a plus on satire and
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: having your finger on the pulse of the culture that's
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: going on right now.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: Which again is scream like it is what they were
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: born from and and they've been pretty consistent i was
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: thinking earlier today i was like It's maybe the most
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: consistently good series in horror. There's a lot of offshoots
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: and bad one-offs here and there that you're just like,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: I like this one and this one, but not that one.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: Even if you don't like the sequels, they're still pretty
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: solid as horror movies go.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: I feel like 3 and 4 took a dip, but
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: I almost feel like that was their point at the
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: same time.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: I had problems.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 7: Given the whole.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: This is what movies do.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I had problems with 4 as we, again,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: we've been doing this so damn long, I talked about
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: it on an episode. So, I had a lot of
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: problems with 4, but I think what's weird is, because
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: I came, again, this is what geeks on the internet do,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: what they should do is, so I came up with
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: my entire, which I think I've told you about, my
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: entire alternate version of what should have happened in Scream 4.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: What's funny is, about half of it came around in
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: this movie. Like, I'm not saying they were listening, but
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: it is interesting that like that was my problem with four,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: I guess more from from West more than anything, because
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: one through three is its own little arc of whatever
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: you like it or don't. But it still kind of
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: tells that same story. But because we're coming back to
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: four years later and we're sort of revisiting it and
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: trying to soft reboot it like it bothered me that
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: it was so by the book. That it stuck so
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: close in plot and overall goings-on that it never strayed away,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: which is what I was so impressed with with this one.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: It still took it so much so that they're mimicking
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: specific scenes, and yet by the end they would always
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: find a way to do something a little different that
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: made it, and sometimes massively different, like letting our initial
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: character live. It's like major differences that then affect the
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: whole rest of the plot. So it's like we didn't
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: really get any of that from 4. I feel like 4...
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: stuck so close to the formula that he'd created that
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: by the end I was like, well, there's cool stuff
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: along the way, but it didn't really do anything drastically
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: new and different and interesting. It just... But there's great
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: scenes throughout it and so much of the story I
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: still like, but I feel of any, it's like that's
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: my issue with that one.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: Which is why I wanted... again to rehash my story
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: but because they kind of come back to that here
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: i i said that same thing i was like okay
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: we've already had these three movies of it's the whodunit
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: we don't know you know we spend the whole time
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out who it is i loved the
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: emma roberts craziness so much i wanted her to be
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: our new lead i wanted if we're gonna continue doing
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: movies i wanted it to change perspectives almost and be
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: like okay now we're following this crazy person We're doing it.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: I said it's always like switching gears to like American
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: Psycho style. It's like, okay, now we're watching this crazy
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: person go around and kill people. And then the more
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: I thought about it now, it's like, if we didn't
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: do that, if we got this version of Dewey, I
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: would have loved to have seen that. Because then you've got, like,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Dewey becomes the Loomis. That's like, he's the only, because
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: I said it the other way, like, kill off the
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: other characters. You can leave Dewey injured, like he is
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: in the end of every other sequel, and, like, have him, like,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: shuffling along, trying to find the killer in the rest
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: of these movies they decide to make in the future. Like,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: that seemed like a cool, totally different take to do
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: with it. So, they did not do that at all
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: in the fourth one. But we do, when you come
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: back to this one, they did change up so much
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: of that that they even, first of all, called themselves out,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: once again, at the end, that that's the problem with
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: the Scream franchise is there's no villain. There is no
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: Michael Myers. It's any idiot in a mask can be
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: our wrap-up at the end. So that's kind of that
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: same problem I said with the fourth one. And then
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: I was like, well, but now we have given our
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: lead girl is... kind of a murderer yeah definitely by
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: the end oh yeah potentially as crazy as the people
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: doing the murders so it's like they did sort of
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: hand it off to somebody who is a little crazy
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: so we don't get it quite the same she's still
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: sort of our final girl ish but yeah I don't
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: know I thought it was interesting that they do vary
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: things up sort of along those lines to give us
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: something different and again that's why I took to this
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: one so much better than the fourth.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah Well, this movie, too, I had so many preconceived,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: not even preconceived notions, but concerns going into it. It's like, oh,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: here's another one of these. Is it going to be
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: a sequel? Is it going to be a reboot? Is
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: it going to be both? And they addressed all of that.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: Like, very quickly and they were like, don't worry about it.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 5: This is what's going to happen. Just enjoy it.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: And I thank them for that.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: Well, and again, that's what I said about four. I
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: was like, it's... it's ridiculous that these three characters have
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: been through all of this and somehow still keep surviving.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: So I was like, I said that, that last one,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, Wes needs to start off in these
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: old school characters. Like he's done it in the other sequels.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: Where's Randy at now? We took him out pretty quick,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: but like the same three, we keep dragging back. And
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: by the end of the fourth one, they're all okay again.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: So I'm like this time, Oh. They took out one
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: of the main three. And I was like, that's, I mean,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: it's the one I didn't want him to, but. Yeah.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: Well, I knew. I knew as soon as he was like,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: I got to go back and change.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is it.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: I was like, here's a series wrap on Dewey.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: And that scene did, probably the only one out of
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: the movie that pissed me off.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Because I was like, he should know. He's the one
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: out of everybody to know to just like do that
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: real quick. And for some reason it was just so slow.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: And you were just like, God. damn it i know
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen but i feel like he should have
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: known and he i don't know if it was a
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: lapse of judgment or like what but it was just
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: so slow and i was like damn.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: It but yeah i wanted to off gail last movie
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: and i thought it would have been a really interesting
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: way to wrap up that fourth one is killing sydney
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: Because again, I felt like it was sort of rehashed
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: to have her back as the main girl being attacked
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: all the time by that fourth one. I'm like, we've
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: changed it up. We brought in all these new characters
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: and yet we're still right back to just her being
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: attacked as the main girl the whole time. Something like
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: that fourth one just feels like it's trying to do
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: something different but not very much. Whereas this one, we
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: totally hand it off. It is full on Even the
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: way they reference. It's the Star Wars. We're going to
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: have Han Solo come in, but he'll just hang out
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: over there for a little while. We've got this new
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: girl we're going to stick with. So it totally does that.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Sydney's not really... I mean, she's introduced briefly in the beginning,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: but we don't get her until halfway into the movie.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: So it's like she's not a main part of what's
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: going on, really. I do like if they continue on
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: in this way... I do like that she just sort
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: of becomes like... Because even now, I like... And it
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: was supposedly Nev's line of like, yeah, I'm Sidney fucking Prescott.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: Of course I have a gun. So I like that
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: she shows up packing heat and she's just like... This
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: will be her role in everything. She just becomes Charles
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: Bronson in these movies. She's just like, we're having a problem.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: And she's like, I'm here to take care of things.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: These damn punks and ghost faces running around. I'll take
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: care of them.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: One kind of, because we talk about real world issues.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: One thing that I never understood throughout this entire movie,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: especially with how fast the media is on everything.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: When there's a new murder in Woodborough, and it could
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: possibly be related to all of this, why is the
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: media and all of the law enforcement channels, why are
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: they not on the phone to Sidney and Gail and
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: Dewey right away? Because they've been involved in all of this.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: mean i think what part do you start suspecting.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Those i think they probably are and they especially sydney
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: wants nothing to do with anybody even by that second
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: movie she's just like already like put herself away from
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: the world by that second movie so like and dewey
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: you can tell isn't a people person so like he
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: wants so the only one that buys into it is
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: gail and you see she's writing books she's on talk
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: shows like she's gonna be Always feeding off that as, again,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: the character I don't really like of the three.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: Let's look at this, just a little off left field here,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: but let's look at this like an episode of Murder.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: She Wrote.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: The pinnacle of all horror writing.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: But let's say Jessica Fletcher is involved in all of this.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: The author who is profiting off all these murders would
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: be the first person she would look at. And nobody
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: does that in any of these. I know this is
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: a weird tangent, but it does bother me.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: That makes me now want to start spinning this into
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: other versions of it. Because we've got this Sydney just
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: hanging around, I was like, instead of Murder Street Road,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: I'm going Columbo. Can she just come in and be like, okay.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: One more thing. Now, was your boyfriend, did you just
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: meet him like in the last six months or so?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: Like she can pull out the questions.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: She did pull out the questions. Nobody thought to ask.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: It's like, how well do you know this guy?
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: Except Dewey. Beginning, same thing he asked.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: Well, I do feel like he was giving himself away.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: And I kept thinking, no, maybe it's nothing or maybe
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: it is something. But he mentioned Dewey wasn't. wasn't that
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: way in the.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: Movies and i was like you.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: Just said you hadn't saw any of them and then
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: you watched one of them in the hospital.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: Which again maybe was not by accident yeah maybe that's
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: planted in the screenplay on purpose by our real world writers.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 5: And then the other thing too where he was like
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: i'm gonna go grab a beer and i'm like no
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: you just made a big deal about how you didn't
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 5: want to stop at that house to get your little
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: your girlfriend's little sister's inhaler and now you're gonna stop
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: and have a beer that.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: Was one of my favorite moments And again, it's the
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: geek camaraderie. When he says, I'll be right back, and
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: then she's on the couch, and there's just that, ah, ah.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: Nobody else in the world would get what's going on
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: there except the geeks. And we've already established they're both
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: geeky enough to be like, ah, shit, I did it.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: So I loved that moment as the movie geek. And again,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: it's camaraderie with people on the screen. It does a
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: nice job of including you in the geekery going on.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: I love that part. I did, as far as the
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: boyfriend and the revealing stuff, that was another reason. Because
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: it's rare that I go back and see a movie
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: again in the theater. Number one, because I'm poor. Number two,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: because half the time I'm like, well, I just want
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: to go watch something else. I've seen that one, I
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: want to go see something else. But specifically, because we
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: were going to talk about this, and I was like,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: knowing it's a whodunit, knowing it is going to be
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: a big reveal of someone who's there the whole time
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: watching it that second time changes things a little bit
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: because you kind of know what you're looking for and
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: so there is every moment where the boyfriend is questioning
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: things that were like well you know plus then i'm
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: playing the game of who's in the costume each time
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: because i'm like well i know he's driving with her
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: so it's got to be her killing this person But
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: then there's other times I'm like, she's with the sister now,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: so he's got to be in the costume. So you
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: can pinpoint way more of that when you know what
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: you're looking for. But the thing that was interesting was
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: he's very... When we get to that Dewey scene in
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: the hospital, when he shoots Ghostface... And he's like, come on,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: and he starts dragging the boyfriend. He's, like, super concerned
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: about Ghostface that only we see because Dewey's behind him
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: pulling him. And he's like, oh, God, is she dead? Like,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: did he just kill my girlfriend? Like, you maybe didn't
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: notice the first time through, but watching it again, he
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: is waiting. Because even when they get to the elevator,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: he keeps looking back like, is she dead? Like, did
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: my girlfriend just die? So that's a fun little revisit moment.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: There's several others, but that one seemed very obvious.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 5: This is kind of like rewatching Fight Club.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: You're like, wait a minute. It's all coming together now.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: That's what I feel like was another thing that was
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: great about this movie is that the formula, it's the
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: same formula always.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: And so as you're watching it, you're always like, well,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: I know what to look out for. Like, I know
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: how to pick it. And I still was so surprised
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: when it was revealed. I was like, oh, I forgot
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: that I was even trying to figure out, like, who
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: it was. It's like sleight of hand. Like, there's so
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: many other things going on that you're focusing on this thing.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: And then someone pulls out a gun and shoots your
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: friend in the head.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: And you're like, what the fuck?
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: In the theater, I was like, oh, my God. I
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: just was not expecting that at that moment.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: That was the other. I was trying to remember. I
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: was like, what happened to Liv anyway?
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: And it's like, you should always know from the first
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: one to not trust the boyfriend. But he was just
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: so sweet and seemed supportive and concerned. And I kept
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: having moments where I was like, no, I don't know.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: There's something a little weird. But I'd always go back to, no,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: it's not him. And then it was him.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: It can't be him. He looks too much like Dennis Quaid.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: He's such a cutie. I think I was just blinded.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: That's what all the... online stuff they keep making I
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: mean his mom is Meg Ryan in the first one
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: they make a Meg Ryan of their bajillion movie references
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: she's like a young Meg Ryan so Sidney's like his mom.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: I was kind of suspecting our Amber girl from the
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: beginning though just cause she gave me weird vibes.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: There was something off about her there's my question has
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: everyone here and or listening seen Once Upon a Time
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: in Hollywood I have not.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: No, but I did know the connection.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 5: Well, then I won't.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: Go into it. But let me just say, you'll find
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: it really amusing when you get through that movie. It's
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: a very different approach. Because I sat there going, I
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: know I know her from something. And then, like, I'm like, oh, yeah. Wait. Like,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: what the?
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: By the end, it's, yeah, it's a very different experience
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: once you've watched both of these movies. Yeah. And had
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: to be really purposefully done based on what's going on
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: in that movie versus what happens in our movie. Because this,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like this was an ancient movie
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: they're pulling from. It just happened a couple of years ago.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: So these, our directors here had to have been like, yeah,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: we're going to put this in just for fun. It's
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: going to be an extra little bonus for the audience
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: that just went and saw that movie.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's beautiful, but there's something weirdly sinister about her. Oh,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: very much so.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: Something creepy about her.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Like, okay. And the hand sanitizer usage, of course, was great.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Who doesn't do that at this point?
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: Weaponizing the hand sanitizer, yeah.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that's part of it, though, when you
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: were saying trying to figure out who did what. It
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: catches you off guard because they're almost so good at
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: leading you down the path for everyone. That's what I said.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: I was like, wait, what happened to Liv? And I
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: was trying to figure out what it was that happened
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: to her because I'd forgotten. She gets her head blown off. Yeah.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: But.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: she does her little speech of like, well, maybe I
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: like when she gets to the twin girl on the
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: couch and like, yeah, she's playing it really creepy here.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: Is she doing that? Because she is. And she's trying
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: to oversell it to throw you off the trail. And like,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: same thing with the girls in the basement. Like it,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: it does its own little, like, well, maybe I'm the killer.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: No, I'm the killer.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: They keep saying that they're the killer so much that
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: you're like, well, one of them is probably telling the
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: truth and was by the way. So it's just like, Eventually,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: everybody has thrown it out so much that you're just like, well,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: there's nobody left. They've all said they're probably the killers,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: so somebody's got to be right.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: And that's why I thought they might do the cop-out
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: and go with the older sister seeing visions thing, and
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that they didn't.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: I was really glad that they did not.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: Thankfully, they did. i do like that is one of
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: the again of them being true like geeks for the
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: series because that's we didn't get tons into the directors
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: but like they were such big screen fans like that
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: they specific that's how they won nev over because never
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: done the fourth one and she was like i'm probably
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: done especially once west passed on it was like well
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: i mean why would i come back you know the
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: The guy who created this, you know, the one who
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: brought me into it and guided us through this first,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: you know, series of movies is gone. I'm probably done now.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: And they wrote her this letter telling the telling her
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: like Wes Craven and Scream. The first movie is the
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: reason we made movies. It's why we wanted to be
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: horror directors. It's why we are here now. And like
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: that was so compelling. that she's like all right let
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: me see the screenplay and like it was solid as
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: we can see now so that's how they won her
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: over but you also see the how devoted they are
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: to this kind of stuff because we get versions of
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: these scenes like the basement scene is just rose going
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: to the garage like it is straight up like the
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: entire thing is just sort of mimicking that but in
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: its own again putting its own spin on it by
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: the end where we're working in that little she doesn't
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: get killed but we've got the trade-off of like maybe
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: i'm the killer so we've got that There's the porch
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: fake out. Like the one where Amber comes running out
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: and going, I'm like, we had that in the first movie.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: We've got two of them running at him. One of
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: them is a killer. One of them just got.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: Stabbed and shot. The fact that Gail and Sidney don't
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 5: even fuck around. They're like, I think it's a trap.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: Seems like a trap to me. She's just like, fuck it.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: This is one of the times when it's like, it's
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: fun that this is the fifth movie in the series.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: And these two have been through every one of them.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: So it's like by now, Same thing when they pull
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: up and there's screams. They're like, yep, sounds about right.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: This is where we always end up.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: And like Mindy on the couch watching the horror movie
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: and doing the whole, look behind you thing. That's always great.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: Because that scene in and of itself the first time
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: is so geeky and self-aware that you're like, oh, this
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: is brilliant. So watching them do it again with an
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: extra layer on top of it, I'm like, oh, this
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: is amazing. Yeah.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: So yeah, each of those just kind of shows the
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: Scream fandom in this own franchise.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: I even like the scene in the kitchen where Wes
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: gets murdered where they keep faking you out with, oh,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 5: he's going to be behind the door.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: He has the scary music.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's not here.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: Well, it's definitely going to be this time. Don't worry
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 5: about it. And it just keeps going. Because it got
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 5: to the point where it's like, okay. But then it
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: comes back around where you're like, this is the best
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: thing I've ever seen. So yeah, they're just playing with
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 5: you at that point. But it tells you a lot
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 5: about their neighbors because his mom was killed in broad
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 5: daylight on her front doorstep.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought was kind of impressive. I'm like,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: to do a murder, like to set a murder scene
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: in broad daylight out in the front yard. I'm just like, that's...
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: like seemingly hard to shoot and make it creepy but
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: like it makes it more creepy that like there's still
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: this ghost face killer standing on your front porch in
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: the middle of the day and you still got a
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: knife in the gut so have fun with that like
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: yeah it's a lot to process and like she has
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: no time to do it she runs up the porch
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: and is already stabbed immediately and.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: That like uh Because right after I got back from
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: the movie theater, I watched Scream 3 and 4. Because
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: I've seen 1 and 2 enough that I, like, know.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: But I'd only seen those maybe, like, once or twice.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: And I wasn't really paying attention. But the opening of
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: 3 is Cotton Weary gets a call from his girlfriend.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: And she's being stalked by Ghostface. And so he's driving
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: home as fast as possible and talking to the police
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: on his giant car phone. And so... The scene with
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: the mom radioing dispatch and trying to get home as
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: fast as she could, that's another repeat. Also, she's the
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: sheriff of the town now. Are there no police officers?
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no one showed up.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: Not really. I mean, you'll notice when she gets killed,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: the other guy comes from the hospital to the crime
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: scene because they didn't have enough guys to keep a
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: few on deck. Well, nope.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: Cause hers, hers is so fast, but his, it really
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: like builds and there's a lot of tension. Cause I
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: was like, where are the cops?
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: That's what it was.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: That's I knew there was one of the scenes somebody kept.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: And I think that was one of the kids. Cause
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: that's why I could, cause she kept going. look outside
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: just just look outside because mom's dead on the porch
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: yeah like we know it but he's just looking around
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: getting plates like it's so drawn out and the girl
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: was so antsy she just just look outside she kept
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: saying it i'm like this is kind of great because
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: i can handle it but she's like newbie horror so
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: she's just like freaking out just go look outside your
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: mom's right there the killer's in the house like she's
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: just so buying into it and i'm like that's how
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: you know they're effective and what they're doing yeah this
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: girl is freaking out poor wes That's how you win
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: them over, man. I got to make sure we don't
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: get sliced up by some lunatic who saw Friday the
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: 13th and thought, you know what?
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 7: That Jason guy has got some pretty solid ideas.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: Well, they even, again, it's so self-referential as horror goes
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: that they're constantly like making reference as if it is
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: a horror movie. They're like, first thing you do in
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: these movies is don't split up. What are you doing?
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: Which is funnier coming from the killer. He is the
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: one who says that line. And then even by the
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: end where she's, again, it's like they know they're living
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: in a horror movie. She's like, we're going to do
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: the one thing that nobody in these horror movies does.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: We're getting the fuck out of town.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: Which still didn't help them. So I guess we eventually
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: need to get to that because I think that is
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: what totally makes this work for me where other movies don't.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: Because if you'll remember, when we did the Halloween movie,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: that was one of my main issues was how many
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: ridiculous coincidences had to happen for the things to come
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: together in that movie, which is a, I feel like
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: a legit criticism in that movie because there's no reason
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: for those things to happen. By the time you get
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: to the end of this, I'm like everything that just
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: coincidentally happened makes sense because two of our main characters
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: are constantly working to get it to a specific thing
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: in a place and all of these actions to come together.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: So not necessarily perfect, but, Way more believable than what
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: goes on in a lot of other horror movies.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 5: I still don't understand what that Vince guy was doing there.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: At the bar?
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: I think he's just an asshole.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: No, but why is he just, or unless he lived
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 5: in town anyway, but they made it sound like he
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: came to the town for some reason, and then 20
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: minutes later he's dead.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't really get what his purpose was.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: I think that was just to establish our series of
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: murders and how they're all connected to the original 25
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: years ago murders. Because he's... He.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: Was somebody's brother.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: Let's see, I wrote it down.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: Stu's sister's kid. So he's... I guess he's the same
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: generation as those. They're like, he's fighting with the twins,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: but he's like, Stu's his uncle and Randy's their uncle
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: so it's that same thing of like okay all these
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: kids are connected to it and one by one they're
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: getting picked off and somehow it's all connected back here
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: which again would seem more ridiculous and convoluted except when
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: you jump to the end and it's specifically orchestrated by
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: a bunch of freaking fanboys like that is specifically meant
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: to be like a dumb horror movie that these things
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: would happen in it almost gives them a pass to
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: be as ridiculous and convoluted as need be when you've
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: got a horror movie person creating a real life version
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: of what they want to be in a horror movie.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: I liked that by the end. Cause I was like,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: what are the odds they get to the same house?
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh, cause he led them back.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: Same thing when we got there and I'm like, who
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: the hell has a party when your friend just got murdered?
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: And I get it in the first movie too. But
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: that's the, that's the joke of it is like, yeah,
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: because the first movie they were just assholes. They didn't care.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: Stu's an idiot. Also, Stu's still the killer. So, like,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: the fact that we come around and, like, she's in
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: that same house and is also the murderer and is
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: why she's throwing this party. Because what does she care?
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 5: She's the murderer. There was a great line. I don't
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: know if you guys heard it because it was one
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 5: of those, like, you know, you could miss it real quick.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 5: But when he's flicking the lights and telling everybody to
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 5: go home. You can hear somebody say, somebody's dad's kicking
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 5: us out.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was funny. Like immediately he's like, hey, Gen Z.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: Some old dude's here to ruin your fun.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: And that was like another moment where as it was happening,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, why is he staying? Why is he
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: taking this authority to kick everyone out? Like just get
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: the inhaler, you weirdo, and go. And then it's like, oh.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: Again, watching it that second time. He's also not lying.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: As the kids are filing out, he's like, I'm saving
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: your life. I'm saving your life.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: He's the murderer.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: Like everyone who stayed either gets killed or almost got killed.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, he wasn't lying. He was saving their lives.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: This is about to be a bloodbath.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: So hang around. Which that is one thing I wanted
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: to get to. Because you said this would be okay
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: to bring the kids to. Granted, there was one behind me.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: So obviously there is. I felt like this was maybe
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: more gory than some.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: Certainly previous. Some of them.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 5: I don't know which one.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: I'll have to go back and compare murder to murder,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: but this was rough in the gore department.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 5: I don't feel like it was as gory as some
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 5: movies we've seen recently.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 5: Definitely not as gory. Yeah.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like they were really kind of up and
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: at a notch to be a little self-indulgent in how
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: gory the murder scenes were.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, the opening scene where the girl gets a
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 5: knife through her hand.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 6: Ugh.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: I think the leg break is maybe the.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, God. Yeah. Wes's death is pretty slow.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, the knife through part of the neck is
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: what creeps you out. Just that little shoving it through
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: and out the other side.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: Dewey's is slow.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: Dewey's was slow, yeah.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: Dewey's was just gutting him. I was like that.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: And that's one of those. Well, then you hear the
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: splash of his innards falling out.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: Well, that's once again almost them spiking the touchdown. It's
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: just like, okay, we're not going to kill these three characters.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: We're not going to kill... Oh, no, he ain't coming
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: back from this. It's just like, nope, we're taking him
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: out and we're taking him out in the worst possible
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: way where there's no saving him. His guts are on
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: the floor now.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the one I was like, nope, they're
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: doing it. They're writing him out. So... But, yeah, some
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: of those, or even our big finale. Like, again, I
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: love her.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 5: The knife goes through his face.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: I love her wailing on the guy anyway. But that last,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: where's my ending? You know, here it comes.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: Here it comes. That knife through the throat is just, like,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: extra indulgent in how gory they wanted it to be. So,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. Again, I was giggling and laughing, so.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: I concern the people in the next role.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 5: One thing I liked about this movie that you never
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 5: see in movies, whether it be horror or action or whatever,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 5: when people are attacked in this movie, they fall down.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 5: They're actually hurt. The big scene, this isn't the only one,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 5: but the big scene is where she's in the hospital
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 5: and she gets out of her bed and tries to
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: get in the wheelchair. She's screaming in pain all the time.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: Well, and that gets us back to my running theme
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: of horror movie hospital.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: Which, again, the first time I just sort of thought
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: that and then went on and didn't think about it anymore.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: I just like, oh, here we go. We're back in
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: another hospital and it's going to be dark and creepy
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: and nobody's going to be around. Watching it again this time,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, our sheriff did specifically say we can
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: get her her own floor. That's why nobody, because then
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: I guess nobody can show up and murder you. Except
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: the one person who does show up to murder you,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: and then there's nobody around to save you.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 5: You know, when you take the cops off that to
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 5: go to the sheriff's house, yeah.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing. If there were police protection and
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: you were on your own floor, I guess that would
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: make sense. But there are cops there who aren't real good,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: and one of them left.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 5: And the one security guard they had was horribly murdered.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: That didn't work out so well. But yeah, that was
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: kind of that same super creepy hospital scene.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 5: That was one of the problems I had with Halloween
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 5: Kills is she wakes up from surgery where she just
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 5: had her guts put back in. And then 20 minutes
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 5: later she's like, I gotta get this guy! And it's like, no.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 5: You wouldn't be able to move. You wouldn't be able
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 5: to breathe. And so when they showed her in the
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 5: wheelchair like crying as she's trying to move, like.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: Two feet. And just blood pouring out of her hand
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: as she ripped open all of her wounds.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: I've felt for her so hard.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but at the same time, I was like, finally. Yeah.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: Again, she sells it, like, points to Jenna. Like, those scenes,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: and by the end, like, everything she does is just really,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: totally believable.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: Like, is an extra level above the rest of our cast,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: which are all good, but I'm just like, she just nails, like,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: so much of what they're putting this poor kid through, and... So, again,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: to jump to where she's just wailing on that girl
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: with her crutch. Yeah. After he already made fun of
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: her gippy little sister. And like, well, she's doing pretty
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: good for a busted up girl that's been through hell
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: and back.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what I like about her. She has been
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: through some shit. And she is never the damsel in distress.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: And she showed up to rescue them and then rescue
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: them again. Blow a head off a final girl.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 5: But it's still a realistic level of.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 5: This has to be.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: Done yeah yeah i did notice again going back through
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: the ties to the original movie once again mom is
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: conveniently gone yeah the entire run of which i guess
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: there was a reason the first movie but somehow dad
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: was conveniently gone the whole first movie no it made
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: sense by the end but like this one we didn't
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: even get a reason she was just like she's at
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: a conference or something i don't know we wrote her
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: out of the plot who cares That.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: Was kind of weird.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: Because she's still, what, how old is she? She's still
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: pretty young.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: She might be 15, maybe.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: If that, yeah. I was like, she reads pretty young
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: to just go off and leave. And obviously your big
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: sister is not taking care of you because she ditched you, so.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, I get that it's going to take like,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 5: I don't know how long, but a long time to
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 5: get from London to California.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 5: But at least try to come home if your daughter
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 5: has been stabbed repeatedly.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. that's true that was yeah mom's just gone for
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: the run of the movie.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: Huh maybe we'll see more of her in a sequel
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: requel sequel i'd be fine if we didn't though yeah
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: that's okay it could.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: Go either way i mean they really leave it totally
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: open where if this is the capping things off we
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: get that and it works But they leave so much
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: there of like, now we have our new lead girl
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: if we want it. Plus she could maybe be crazy
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: and we could have nothing but a weird ghost skeet
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: guiding her around the country to go murder people or
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: save people.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 5: I don't know which.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: The phrase ghost skeet.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: You know, once again, type that into Google and see
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: what you get. So.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 5: I want to, but I'm afraid.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 6: Don't really do that, guys.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: Or if you're into it, go for it.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: There's something out there for everyone.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: I guarantee there's something waiting for you.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 5: If you do, how's this? If anyone does type that in,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 5: please give us a three word description of what you find.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 5: That's all I ask.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: Or three paragraph. Because we'll probably read it on the air.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: Your inbox is going to be weird after this episode.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, it already is. Usually it's just junk, but occasionally
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: maybe I'll get something good now. I do like that
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: they even address themselves in the movie. Like I said,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: it's ridiculous that Sidney's still around after all of these movies.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: But like he specifically says in our movie, it would
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: be ridiculous for you to survive. So we're obviously going
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: to have to kill you. I'm like, well, and it
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: kind of is. And yet here we are.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: I was thinking that as I was going back over
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: the movies and the finale on each of the movies,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: listening to their crazy speech every time. In each one,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: Sidney's also been, like, horribly injured.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: I was like, by this fifth movie, when they go
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: to stab her in the gut, it should just, like, clank.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: It should just be such scar tissue. And it just
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: stops the blade at this point.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 5: Even Dewey says, I've got nerve damage. I walk with
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 5: a limp. I don't want any more.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: I've had enough, guys. So, like, all three of them.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: Because each movie, they all get injured.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 5: Mm.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: But this one, that's the other thing I was going
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: to say I really love about the big finale is
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: like they don't disappoint. Everybody is horribly injured. Like there's
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: not like one or two people like they're all stabbed, shot.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: They're all massively bleeding. The good guys, the bad guys,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: everybody in the middle of the fight is still horribly
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: injured and bleeding and just sort of limping around, still
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: fighting with each other.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 5: Well, I feel like they missed an opportunity for when
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 5: Gail gets shot in the stomach again. She should have
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: just been like, again?
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 4: Seriously?
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: Damn it, again? But that's what I'm saying. The bullet
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: should just bounce off at this point. Like, I've got
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: 25 years of scar tissue, you know. It's not even
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: going to hurt anymore.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: I do love that they gave Sydney like a baby
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: and a husband. And it was the detective.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: From screen three. I was going to say, it's three.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: We get the old Patrick Dempsey. Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: As much as I didn't used to like Patrick Dempsey,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: that movie is the one that kind of turned it
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: for me. I was like, when he was a dumb
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: teenager making his dumb teenager movies, I was like, oh,
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: this kid gets on my nerves. And by the time
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: he grew up a little bit and was in Scream 3,
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I don't hate this guy.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm okay that she ended up with him.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: So good. He's watching the kids somewhere. With a gun,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming. He is a cop, or was.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he should have gone with her, probably. That's all right.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: Somebody's got to stay with the baby.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: As long as she's got a gun.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 5: Again, I like- At least try to talk her out
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 5: of not going.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: I like Sydney just traveling around the country with a gun,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: waiting to shoot some serial killers. Again, I like that
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: as our spinoff in the future. Maybe we don't even
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: make more Scream. We just get the Sydney stories as
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: she goes and gets kind of involved in wacky murders
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: or travels around and shoots people.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 5: I would watch that.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: As much as I hate that they killed Dewey because
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: I love him so much, I think that was a
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: good way to... I mean, before that with him calling
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: them and being like, don't come here.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Like, that's a good friend to be like, I'll put
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: myself in... Please stay away. And so, you know, they
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: had to have some way to get them to come back.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: So I guess... It's.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: Also sad that we didn't, at least on screen, we
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: didn't get a Sidney and Dewey reunion.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: Like, she only shows up because he gets killed. So like...
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: much as we get the freaking Gale back again like
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: I kind of would like to see those two because
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: they they've been through a lot you know the Gale
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: and Dewey thing is all just like drama you know
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: it's just like their relationships been through hell and back
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: on so many levels that like that's all that had
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: but like the because I even like that with the
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: other sequels of like when when Sydney would be back
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: again and like Dewey's like here.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: We are yeah he's just like we've.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: Been through this a whole lot and I still not
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: even got over losing my sister. And now I've been
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: through four more of these movies. So yeah, there's, they
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: did have, I, I don't think I even noticed it,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: but I liked that they added in, if you supposedly
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: in his trailer on the mantle is the ashes of Tatum.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I saw that.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, that's nice. Cause we don't really, she
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: just sort of disappears after that first movie. Granted she's dead,
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: but they'd also don't bring her up a while. So
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: it's nice that she's at least referenced here. And, That's
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: why I said they did a good job of piecing
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: together all these movies so much that we also get
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: Martha who didn't show up till the third movie but
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: now we have this like Well, I'm just glad she's
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: still working. Yeah, I was like, she's still working somewhere
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: Heather Matarazzo.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: Princess Diaries.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: She was a big thing for a while there. And
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: now it's like, well, good to see she at least
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: can still be in some screen movies.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: I am assuming at some point, if there's anything that
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: ever comes of me once I've come and gone from
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: this world, if I get my own theater as a memorial,
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: even in somebody's house, you know, I know. The big
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: dorky picture of Randy on the wall.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 5: But you know, she seemed pretty okay with her kids.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 5: Her brother has already been murdered because of this. Now
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 5: she's okay with her kids sitting around. Yep, figure it out, guys.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: Just horror movie posters all on the wall. Just like, yeah, yeah,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: this is what he died doing.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 5: And they had the whole stab box set, which.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: He died doing what he loved, talking shit about movies.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: I think Uncle Randy would be so proud.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 5: I think he would too, but I'm just sitting there
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 5: thinking if a family member of mine was murdered horribly
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: and then somebody made a franchise.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: Of horror movies based on it, I don't.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 5: Know that I would have them all.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: What if you were really stoned and you wanted to watch?
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 5: Yes, I would have them all.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: Rent it on Amazon.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I don't know. I liked so much of
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: what they ended up doing with that big finale. Not
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: just the speeches, but the way that they took everybody
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: out and everybody's bleeding and dying. So, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: Is there anything overall that we haven't already addressed? I
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: think we've tried to cover as much as we can.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 5: I think we picked this movie pretty clean.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: We didn't address the non-sex scene.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: Which was that one?
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: Where Liv finally now decided she wanted to have sex
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: with him.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 5: Oh, that was great.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: I was just like, you did that all wrong. Like, great. No,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: you should not go have sex with her because you're
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: both going to get murdered. But I was like, that's
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: not the spin you put on it. You're supposed to
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: be like, especially in the most self-referential horror movie ever,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: movie about it. He should be like, look, in these movies,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: that's when everybody gets killed. We can't do it right now.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: later i want to do it with you but not
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: right now i did like his line of i'm not
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: hilarious but i'm like that is the worst way to
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: put that dude don't do that but yeah but that's
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: but teenage.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 5: Boys never say the right thing yeah it was accurate.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: Yes but i was just like you've got a perfectly
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: good reason to not have sex right now now the
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: real reason might be you're pretty sure she's the killer
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: Because she is a little creepy. Definitely the next scene out,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: she's super creepy. I don't blame you, but yeah, that's
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: not the way to spin it, man.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: Just be like, this is like a horror movie. What's
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: the one thing you don't do? True.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: And his little... cat and mouse scene was fun with
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: the GPS.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: Again, just updating through technology. Yeah, it's just like now
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: you have those apps. So it's like it is. Then
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: it became like a little like, this is kind of
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: like an aliens tie in here. One of the coolest
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: thing about that movie is they have their tracking devices
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: of I'm about to get murdered by something. And this
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: is like a little solo version of that.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 5: Was glad to see he made it.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: Me too i was pretty sure he was dead i
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: was yeah well again that's sort of what they do
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: each time there's sort of some random person again because
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: everybody gets stabbed yeah like eventually you're like oh look
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: who came out that's how we got randy the first
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: time but like each time that was i like that
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: it's such a universe now they're also building on their
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: own little universe because now looking at stuff after the
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: fact it's like at the time when i wasn't paying
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: attention but When they're watching, which I also think is
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: funny that there is like a YouTube video making fun
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: of Stab.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: Which I'm like, kind of an idiot would sit around
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: and record a show making fun of other... Oh, wait. But,
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: so watching them do that, supposedly you look on the
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: side and there's all these other little universe things in there. Yeah.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: Like there's another video that's like.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: Sort of supposed to be an interview with the kirby
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: with the surviving kirby that we just saw get knifed
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: in the last movie and they just kind of left
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: her there and we never came back to her but
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: in this universe now she's still alive so we don't
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: know about stew i guess they decided to write him
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: off because that was the old version supposedly stew just
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: survived the tv to the head and was gonna come
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: back in that second movie so much so that he's
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: in the party scene yeah legitimately matthew lillard you can't
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: he's out of focus more or less but he's in
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: the background of the party scene at college that they
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: were potentially i think he was really just on set
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: that day and they were like yeah that'll be funny
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: go get back there but initially in the writing they
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: were thinking of bringing him back for that second movie
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: so i guess.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 5: It's kind of hard to survive a tv screens.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: Especially then now flat screens that thing weighs like four
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: pounds oh fine but old school 90s tv no that
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: would probably take you out so but yeah i thought
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: that was funny that there's a video about that over
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: there too that's the did stew survive so like they've
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: got their own little in-universe jokes going on in the
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: background and side areas of the movie that we're watching
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: and i again that's when you know you're dealing with
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: super levels of geekdom like They're making up their own
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: in-universe stories.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: Part of me really wanted a surprise Stu in this movie,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: but I get it. I just love Matthew Lillard so much.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: You got him. I didn't know that either. Looking at
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: stuff today, they brought a couple of people in to
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: do voices at the party. So one of the people
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: at the party in the murmuring going on at the
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: party at the end is is matthew lillard and the
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: double joke is he's going hey nice house whoever the
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: name is stew that's your house like of course it's
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: a nice house yay so we got in there even
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: if we didn't realize he.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 5: Did deliver my favorite line in the whole first movie
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 5: which was My parents are going to be so mad.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: All of his stuff at the end is just like,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: you owe me a little phone, girl. All of his, like,
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: there's some times when you can't make Matthew Lillard's delivery work. Like,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: there's times when it seems weird and out of place. Somehow,
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: he made it all just 100% perfect in that first movie.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: Everything he says is just amazing. So, yeah, he's in there.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: I think Kirby does come back for a little voiceover.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: So they got Pan and Deer to come back and
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: do one. I think somebody else, too. They got a
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: few of the returning people to do little dubbed-in inside jokes. Again,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: just for them, because you didn't notice it in there.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: So we got extra little bonus inside jokes.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: I did also love when Dewey was watching Gale on
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: the TV, and before it cut away, you hear her say, like,
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: And if anyone ever tries to convince me to get
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: bangs again.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: Again, in-universe jokes that reflect the outside world. Because we
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: all sat through that whole third movie going, what have
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: you done? As much as I'm already annoyed by Gale,
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: I'm just.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: Like, no.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: Those bangs are terrible. I would go with Parker Posey.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I liked her I'm.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: Sorry I liked the third one I liked the third
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: one I thought it was so fun I think there's
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: so many cool things that they do of the movie
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: within the movie kind of gimmick to it that I'm.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: Just like that's such a cool little aspect that yeah
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: the wrap up's weird but I mean that's true of
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: 2 too so I mean the sequels all kind of
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: have a wrap up weird thing the fourth one I
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: guess is the most interesting at least because it's again
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: there's always somebody on the inside but hers is like
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: so specific and For such a specific reason where they
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: seemed a little more random, the two and three.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: It's just like, wait, so that's the, all right, whatever.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: This is the final scene. I guess this is the
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: end of the movie.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 5: I remembered Courtney Cox's bangs in Scream 3 looking bad,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 5: and I just looked it up.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're rough. They're so bad. They're rough.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: There's entire websites that are coded to that.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was its own meme for years.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: And I'm only hoping this brings it back.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 7: Why?
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 5: Courtney Cox says Scream 3 Baby Bangs were the worst.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: I agree. One of the times I agree with Courtney Cox.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: What a moment that was.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 5: There's a picture that just said, never forget.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: And she probably posted it.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: Note to self, never forget.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 7: Exactly.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: Sigh.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 3: Anything we've missed on this one?
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 5: Pretty thorough.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: Do you think, since his name comes up at the end,
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: do you think Wes would be pleased with this?
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: I think so just because it's so good. I think
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 2: it's so solid as a movie. And in addition, it's
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: such a loving tribute to what he created. I feel
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: like it's a nice send-off for his memory as well,
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: if we're done with this series. Which, depending on how
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: much money it makes, we're probably not. I feel like
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: if nothing else, we can get a reboot or we
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: can get, you know, some new version will come out.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: But will they be as successful in lampooning themselves as
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: this one was?
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: Because this one does a really good job of like
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: giving you reasons that this shouldn't be happening. And yet
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: you're watching one and it's working. So figure all that out.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like the directors were put in such a
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: tough spot of having to revive this when the creator
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: has recently, you know, pretty recently passed away.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: And it was more likely than not that it was
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: going to be bad and people were going to be mad.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: And I think they like beat those odds and did
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: a really good job.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, especially since so many others have tried to
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: do stuff, maybe without the director just dying. But in general,
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: taking this super popular beloved franchise and watching it fall
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: on its face so many times before.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think they did. Knew that going in
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: and still decided to do it is impressive enough. And
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: then to also be able to deliver what I think
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: is a really effective horror movie along the way.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: Good job, guys.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, very good job.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: I do want to see what else they do. Ready
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: or Not was really good.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: I love that movie.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: More than I expected. And I was like, oh, wait,
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: that's those guys? No wonder this is so good. So, yeah,
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely interested if they don't just do nothing but
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: Scream series continuations from this point on. It's like it'll
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: be interesting to see what else they do now after
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming this is somewhat successful.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 5: First weekend alone it made 30 million internationally another or
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 5: 30 million domestically another 15 internationally.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like we haven't seen the last of Ghostbusters.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 5: I don't think so either.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm okay with that. That's the thing.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: It's rare that I should be this excited about it.
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: But I'm just like no do another one. As long
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: as it's good do another one. I know it goes
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: against rabid fandom.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 5: But like Yeah, I'm looking forward to a new one
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 5: much more than I am a new Halloween.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 5: And I know we're getting a new Halloween.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: This is a good example of how to do this
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: idea right and how to do it wrong.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 5: They even call it, no, it's not like Halloween. Okay,
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 5: maybe it's a little like Halloween. Maybe it's a little
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 5: like Halloween.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: But again, the fact that even Wes knew that, you know,
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: was playing with that premise, you know, 25 years ago.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't feel like he ever tried to
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 5: hide anything.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 7: No.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 5: I think he just let it be what it was.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: Again, as you go back and watch that first one,
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: the jokes are so... Well, even the Freddy Krueger joke
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: in the first one.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 5: The Freddy joke is so flunky.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, wow, that is forced in there. And
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, don't get me wrong, I think it's funny,
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 2: but I'm.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 5: Like, that is not subtle, man. But I think that's
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 5: why I thought it was funny, was because it was
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 5: so in your face.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 4: Yup.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 7: All right. Okay.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: Well, as I said, we had a lot to talk about,
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: and I think we have at least exercised some of
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 2: the demons that came out of the theater. But I
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: need to talk about these things. So that means we
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: can come back to our normal. See, if you guys
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 2: were in the club, or for those of you that are,
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: good for you. But normally at the end of these episodes,
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 2: we'll then get out an evil dragon-enhanced 20-sided die. and
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: open a portal to another dimension and find out what
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 2: our next horror movie is. And these movies come from
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 2: you guys. So one more reason, get your movie on
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 2: that list. But we don't have to do that because
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: we already rolled the last time. So we already know
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: what's coming up. So we can remind you, we will
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: be back in the near future for The Devil's Hand.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 5: Glad you said that because i forgot.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 2: That's why i keep track of these as we go
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 2: otherwise even i won't know a recovery i.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: Knew it was the devil something something.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: Which we've had a few of them yeah the blood
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 2: on the devil's castle satan's sister i don't know something
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 2: like that so so this is from 1962 or 61
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: as many of our older movies go sometimes they cannot
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 2: decide when it was from so Somewhere in the early 60s,
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: they made this movie, and we're going to be discussing it.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 2: So come back for that. We told you ahead of time,
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: so now you can go watch it. So prepare yourself.
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: All right. Anything else to pass along?
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 5: Watch the movie.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 4: Watch your back.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: Join our club.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: People in a ghost-faced mask could be waiting to stab
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 2: you at any given moment, maybe even in broad daylight.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 2: So you're never really safe.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: How about that? Never leave your house.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: Never leave your house. Don't make friends. Don't go anywhere.
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 2: Don't do anything. Except watch movies and listen to podcasts
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 2: on occasion. So these are life plans.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 2: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: Same geek feed. Thanks for listening. Bye.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 5: Bye, everybody.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: Say die, cry, try.
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  Speaker 4: Big city madness, comfort my soul. Give me a home
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 4: where I can grow.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 2: A string of bright lights.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 3: Running up through the sky.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 4: Throughout the hot night, a car is racing by.
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  Speaker 2: You know they'll.
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 5: See, but most of them pass.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: She cries by my wares, don't hide in your glass wheels.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 4: Big city madness covered my soul Give me a hole
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  Speaker 4: where I can grow.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 6: Sounds of guitars fill up the night Can't make me feel,
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  Speaker 6: I said it's alright In one hotel.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 2: Bed, you think you can't grow If you find a hole.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: Please let me know.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 5: You should watch Stabbed.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 2: Stabbed. Stabbed 8 looked great. I don't know what they're
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 2: talking about.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 5: Damn Stabbed.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 3: Stabbed.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: I can't believe he said he didn't like it that much.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, what is wrong with you?
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 4: Sir.
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 2: That's it. We're done. We're done. I've had enough of this.
• 2:06:19
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  Speaker 6: edited by The Oddity Studios, with the opening music performed
• 2:06:25
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• 2:06:27
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• 2:06:30
  Speaker 4: Talk hard!
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