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Zack Moss on joining the Utah football broadcast team, Utes season opener on Thursday, Scouting report on Idaho + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
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  Speaker 1: Chevrolet studio of ESPN 700 at 92.1 FM. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: hour number three here on the Sean O'Connell Show. Time
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  Speaker 1: to catch up with Zach Moss. The Utah football legend,
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  Speaker 1: the NFL veteran, and as we learned last week, officially
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  Speaker 1: the sideline reporter on Utah football radio broadcasts that you
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  Speaker 1: can hear right here on ESPN 700, your home of
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  Speaker 1: the Utes. This conversation brought to you by Mountain Home Services.
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  Speaker 1: Zach Moss, welcome back to the show. How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 2: Good, guys. How are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Doing all right. So, look, we were waiting on the announcement.
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  Speaker 1: It came out after Monday's show last week. you, Sly,
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  Speaker 1: Bill Riley on the call officially this year. Tell me
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  Speaker 1: your feelings, your thoughts on taking on this new role.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Super excited about it. You know, get a chance
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  Speaker 2: to Continue to stay around the game in a different way.
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  Speaker 2: Got some guys that have been doing it for some
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  Speaker 2: years now, for a long time, that I get a
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  Speaker 2: chance to learn from and things of that nature. So
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  Speaker 2: super excited to be with that crew. Super lucky to
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  Speaker 2: be with that crew. And just looking forward to a
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  Speaker 2: lot of wins so there's going to be a lot
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  Speaker 2: of great reporting.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously Thursday night will be the first rollout. You've
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  Speaker 1: got Idaho coming in to Rice Echo Stadium, and we've
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  Speaker 1: been talking about expectations and things like that all preseason long.
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  Speaker 1: Now game week is here. What is your main focus?
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  Speaker 1: What are the things you're going to be looking for
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  Speaker 1: from this first matchup on Thursday night?
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  Speaker 2: The biggest thing I'm looking forward to, I think we
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  Speaker 2: talked about it last time, is the offensive line. I
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  Speaker 2: think that has to be the main staple of this
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  Speaker 2: team to do what they want to do, right? You know,
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  Speaker 2: the offense and the defense, you know, the trenches, the
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  Speaker 2: game is won on the offensive line and the defensive line,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and both sides of the ball will go
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  Speaker 2: as those guys up front do. So the skills players,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we aren't able to do much without having
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  Speaker 2: a good group in front of us, you know, paving
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  Speaker 2: the way for us. So my eyes would be definitely
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  Speaker 2: on the offensive line to see, you know, what they
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  Speaker 2: can do versus this team coming in.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's never, you know, the exact same result
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  Speaker 1: from matchups when you've got different teams coming in and
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  Speaker 1: week to week things change in college football Idaho on
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  Speaker 1: Friday night played against Cal Poly they ended up losing
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  Speaker 1: 38-34 on a comeback come from behind touchdown by Cal
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  Speaker 1: Poly and watching a little bit of that and trying
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  Speaker 1: to get a sense of what Utah was going to
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  Speaker 1: face from Idaho in their first test of the season
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  Speaker 1: the Vandals defense gave up a lot of yardage to
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  Speaker 1: this Cal Poly offense and I don't want to disrespect
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  Speaker 1: Cal Poly. I don't want to disrespect Idaho, but it
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  Speaker 1: should be even more of a mismatch when Idaho comes
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  Speaker 1: into Rice Eccles Stadium and takes on a Utah team
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  Speaker 1: that is bigger, stronger, faster, et cetera, than Cal Poly.
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  Speaker 1: Given what we saw from Idaho, over 500 yards of
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  Speaker 1: offense surrendered, does it change the totals that we're looking
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  Speaker 1: for from Utah? That sound... I believe was Zach Moss's
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  Speaker 1: phone disconnecting from this conversation. So we'll do our best
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  Speaker 1: to get him back on, but a little disconnect there.
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  Speaker 1: I think Zach dropped James will reconnect us potentially. The
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  Speaker 1: question I think is, well, okay. Zach, Zach Moss is back. Sorry, Zach.
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  Speaker 1: We got it. We got disconnected there. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how much of the question you heard, but it was effectively,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Idaho gave up a lot to Cal Poly.
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  Speaker 1: Does that mean we need to see more from Utah
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  Speaker 1: against this same Idaho defense?
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say we need to see more. I think
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  Speaker 2: it depends on what we see, right? If we come
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  Speaker 2: out in the first quarter and we're struggling and, kind
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  Speaker 2: of how we did last year in those early games where,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the offense kind of stalled a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: you know, then maybe. But I think if things get
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  Speaker 2: off to the right foot, we see some explosive plays.
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  Speaker 2: You know, this game is mainly trying to build off
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  Speaker 2: of things, right, and get ready and polish up some
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  Speaker 2: things and seeing how these plays are going to look
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  Speaker 2: for live games. Same with McGivens calling the offense and
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  Speaker 2: Coach Swan on the defensive side, right? This is these
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  Speaker 2: guys' first time with this group calling live action plays.
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  Speaker 2: So it's all about getting the rhythm and seeing what
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  Speaker 2: works for themselves and what doesn't work more so than,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what the yardage can tell. So I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: more underneath the hood of, you know, What's the detail
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  Speaker 2: look like? How is Dampier getting the offensive line up
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  Speaker 2: to the ball? Are we checking things? Are we seeing
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  Speaker 2: certain things at the line of scrimmage? Are we making
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  Speaker 2: explosive plays? You know, that's the biggest thing that I
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  Speaker 2: want to see because that's the stuff that is going
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  Speaker 2: to go a long way when you get into those
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  Speaker 2: conference games, right? It's Idaho, so, you know, not many
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  Speaker 2: people are going to– care about the stats. Right. Cause
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  Speaker 2: I know if I was playing versus Idaho, uh, as
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  Speaker 2: a foreign player, you know, you don't look at the numbers.
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  Speaker 2: You'd look at the, how you, how you did the operations.
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  Speaker 1: The game was sealed for North Carolina on an offside
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  Speaker 1: penalty by a TCU defensive lineman. And, of course, when
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  Speaker 1: you're a coach and you're a player, you want your
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  Speaker 1: first outing to be cleaner than what we saw from TCU.
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  Speaker 1: How do you actually achieve that, though, Zach? Like, what
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  Speaker 1: is the key in playing clean football when you haven't
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  Speaker 1: really been, you know, you haven't been live action for
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  Speaker 1: months and months now?
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  Speaker 2: I think the main thing is the maturity of the players.
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  Speaker 2: I think obviously everyone understands that you can't really simulate
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  Speaker 2: a game. That's very, very hard to do. But the
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  Speaker 2: really good coaches do the absolute best job they can
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  Speaker 2: do to put you into the situations that you're probably
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  Speaker 2: going to be in a lot of times when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to the game day. So depending on how you
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  Speaker 2: script practice and things of that nature trying to get
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  Speaker 2: you as much of a game feel as possible so
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  Speaker 2: that way when you get to the game right and
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  Speaker 2: you're in the third and uh 12 right you know
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  Speaker 2: essentially how you want to operate right you've already kind
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  Speaker 2: of done it even though it was in a practice
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  Speaker 2: situation right the game is all mental so um but
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  Speaker 2: it ultimately comes down to the maturity right like i
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  Speaker 2: said so the coaches can do all of that but
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  Speaker 2: it comes down to the players holding each other accountable, right?
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  Speaker 2: That's why I said I want to see the operations.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see the detail, right? See how Dempere is getting
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  Speaker 2: these guys, the leadership, essentially, how that all is going
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  Speaker 2: to come together because this game is the type of
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  Speaker 2: game that you're scheduling. This is why they schedule these
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  Speaker 2: games early in the year so that way you can
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  Speaker 2: get certain things, get those wrinkles out of the way
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  Speaker 2: and kind of get this thing ironed out.
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  Speaker 1: How would you describe the difference between FCS players, matchups
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  Speaker 1: with a big sky opponent like Idaho is, versus what
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  Speaker 1: you see from a power conference opponent like, in your case, Pac-12,
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  Speaker 1: in this case, Big 12 players? I played at the
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  Speaker 1: big sky level, and I was on the Utah team
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  Speaker 1: when we were a Mount West conference team. And to me,
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  Speaker 1: the biggest difference on those two levels is always in
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  Speaker 1: the trenches and maybe a little bit of speed in
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  Speaker 1: the back end as well. Running backs and linebackers are
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  Speaker 1: usually about the same size at both levels, but more explosive, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: at the power level. When you played against the lower-level teams,
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  Speaker 1: what was your experience as a running back? Were the
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  Speaker 1: tackles easier to break? Were the guys a step and
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  Speaker 1: a half slower? You characterize for me what the biggest
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  Speaker 1: difference is.
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  Speaker 2: Um, that's a great question. You know, I think when
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  Speaker 2: I played against those type of schools, you know, I never...
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  Speaker 2: looked at it like that. Honestly, you know, as a player,
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  Speaker 2: never looked at it like that because, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think anybody who's able to go play collegiate sports on
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  Speaker 2: any level is a pretty decent athlete, right? But I
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  Speaker 2: think what comes down to me is, like you said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, obviously the main thing is the trenches for sure, right?
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, it's a big gap there. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: The skill positions, you know, it varies, like you said,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it comes down to details, details and fundamentals, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like I knew that this game I couldn't possibly hit
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  Speaker 2: some of these 40, 50 yard runs. Because someone's going
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  Speaker 2: to get out of a gap. Someone's going to be undisciplined.
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  Speaker 2: I know that the coaching may not be at the
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  Speaker 2: same level that our guys are, that when we go
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  Speaker 2: against them, the level of detail is different. That's why
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  Speaker 2: these coaches are also at the different levels as well,
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  Speaker 2: just as the players. um, you know, we always know
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  Speaker 2: we can get bigger plays, bigger splash plays and things
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  Speaker 2: of that nature. And you would try certain things like
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  Speaker 2: that just because of, uh, you know, details, fundamentals, and
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  Speaker 2: guys being in the right place over and over and over.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, again, Zach Moss, our guests here on the Sean
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  Speaker 1: O'Connell show. He will be on the sidelines on the
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  Speaker 1: radio broadcast on Thursday night as Utah takes on Idaho
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  Speaker 1: in the season opener. Uh, We are expecting, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like the starters potentially could be out of this game
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  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. You want it to be, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a four or five touchdown lead and you get the backups,
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  Speaker 1: a few reps and things like that as the starter
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  Speaker 1: who was maybe going to get the rest in the
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  Speaker 1: third and fourth quarter in the second half, depending on
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  Speaker 1: how big it was. How many times did that happen
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  Speaker 1: in your career at Utah? And maybe more importantly, you
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  Speaker 1: How did you feel about it? Because you have these
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  Speaker 1: limited opportunities to actually play in games. You're putting in
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  Speaker 1: all this work, and you're trying to pile up stats
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  Speaker 1: and score touchdowns and things like that. And obviously you're
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  Speaker 1: happy if your team's winning in a blowout fashion, but
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  Speaker 1: do you want to come off the field? How did
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  Speaker 1: it feel when you had those opportunities?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely happened a few times when I was
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  Speaker 2: up at the U. You know, I think in the moment, you...
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  Speaker 2: when you're doing it and you have these big wins
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  Speaker 2: and you get taken out of the third, fourth quarter
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  Speaker 2: or something like that, right? In the moment, it feels good, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because you're not risking injury anymore, right? You're not risking
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  Speaker 2: certain things that can come with playing a full game, right? But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, now when you look back at it, you're like, man,
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  Speaker 2: I wish I would have ended up getting the rest
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  Speaker 2: of that second half in there, right? You know, one
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  Speaker 2: of the games that come to my mind is– We
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  Speaker 2: played Oregon State in 2019, and one of my buddies
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  Speaker 2: that I know, he played for Oregon State, and I
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  Speaker 2: saw him recently, and he's like, hey, you had like
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  Speaker 2: 200 yards or something like that, 150-plus yards in the
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  Speaker 2: first quarter, essentially, and you didn't play anymore after the
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  Speaker 2: second half. And I'm like, man, that could have been,
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  Speaker 2: you know, essentially a 200-plus, 300-possible type of a game, right?
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  Speaker 2: So you never know. But in the moment, you're doing
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  Speaker 2: the right thing, right? The name of the game is
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  Speaker 2: to win. And, you know, you try to be a
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  Speaker 2: team player as much as you can, and you try
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  Speaker 2: to do your work when you get the opportunities. And
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  Speaker 2: when the opportunities is you've done a great job in
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  Speaker 2: your opportunities and the team has done a great job,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's time to come off the field sometimes
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  Speaker 2: and allow other guys who also have done a lot
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  Speaker 2: of work throughout the week to get some shine there.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask you a couple NFL questions here.
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  Speaker 1: Cutdown day happened yesterday in the NFL, and look, it's
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  Speaker 1: a cold business. You're more acutely aware of that than
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  Speaker 1: I ever will be, having played in the league. What
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  Speaker 1: is that day like for guys that are trying to
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  Speaker 1: make a roster, and either they get the call, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you made the 53 man, or vice versa, when, you know,
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  Speaker 1: go clean out your locker, thanks for your work, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe we'll see you on the practice squad. If you can,
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  Speaker 1: tell me what it's like for those guys on cut
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  Speaker 1: down day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I can give you my best shot
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  Speaker 2: at it. You know, because a lot of those some
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  Speaker 2: guys that have been in that position, you know, I've
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  Speaker 2: been I was close with while we were playing and
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  Speaker 2: things like that. It's tough, you know, because like you said,
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  Speaker 2: we just said, you know, you do all this work.
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  Speaker 2: You train every single day in the offseason. You try
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  Speaker 2: to do every single thing to put yourself in a
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  Speaker 2: position to where you can have success and hopefully make
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  Speaker 2: that roster. And sometimes, like you said, it is a
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  Speaker 2: business first. Sometimes I've seen players who are probably better
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  Speaker 2: than another guy not be able to play over that
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  Speaker 2: guy just because of uh, you know, the money tied
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  Speaker 2: up in a guy, right. Um, and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: guys have fallen victim to that, um, and vice versa. Um, so,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's hard for sure. You know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but a lot of those guys do get opportunity, you know, to,
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  Speaker 2: to go somewhere else and get on the practice squad.
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  Speaker 2: And you never know. Um, you're always an injury away
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  Speaker 2: on when you're on a practice squad of possibly getting
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  Speaker 2: called up and seizing your opportunity. Um, but yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a tough world for sure to be in that
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  Speaker 2: space and not know, right? Think about how hard it
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  Speaker 2: is to go play football, physical, mental, emotional toll, and
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  Speaker 2: then still at the end of the day not know, right,
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  Speaker 2: if you're going to make the three-man roster. Or, you know,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes guys know, right, a week before, two weeks before,
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  Speaker 2: just if they haven't been playing, performing well, that, man,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just, you know, I'm getting up. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to make this roster anymore. I don't know where I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be in the next two weeks, three weeks.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm going to even be playing football.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like me to transition and look for something else
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  Speaker 2: in the coming months here.
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  Speaker 1: If you were preparing to run against a Los Angeles
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  Speaker 1: Rams defensive front that now includes Miles Garrett and Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Donald on the same D-line, what does that game planning
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  Speaker 1: look like? behind your offensive line in the NFL? Because
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, we've been speculating on it for weeks. He
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  Speaker 1: made it official this past weekend. He is returning to
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  Speaker 1: the Rams on a one-year deal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is not fun for any opposing offensive line
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  Speaker 2: and anybody who has to get hit by either one
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  Speaker 2: of those two guys. I played against both, you know,
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  Speaker 2: obviously both generational talents. That goes without saying. absolute game breakers.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how you game plan. It's hard to
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  Speaker 2: just game plan for one guy. And I've been in
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  Speaker 2: those meetings where we're trying to game plan for each
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  Speaker 2: one of those guys on their respective teams. And that
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  Speaker 2: changes every single thing you do if you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: get game plan for one of them. So now you
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  Speaker 2: get both of them, which is just... Crazy to think about,
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  Speaker 2: but I think the main thing people forget about with
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  Speaker 2: that defense is that, you know, I think even without
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald, they were going to be top five. You know,
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  Speaker 2: even last year, that defensive line was really, really, really good, right?
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  Speaker 2: A lot of young players, and they performed really well,
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  Speaker 2: which is why they made it to where they made
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  Speaker 2: it to in the playoffs outside of the offense. What
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  Speaker 2: let them down was the secondary, but they've upgraded the secondary.
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  Speaker 2: And now... When you have some real corners in the
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  Speaker 2: back and that ball is definitely going to have to
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  Speaker 2: come out a lot faster. But even before they got
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald, they still had two really good D tackles
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  Speaker 2: who performed at a very high level last season. And
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  Speaker 2: you mean you can keep the same guys that perform
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  Speaker 2: at a super high level are probably going to be
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  Speaker 2: max contract guys at some point when there's a chance.
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  Speaker 2: and you get to bring Aaron Donald in for situational football,
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  Speaker 2: because I highly doubt that he's going to need to play,
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  Speaker 2: you know, 50 snaps, right? He's probably going to be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, very situational guy when they need him to
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  Speaker 2: be kind of like what the Rams kind of did
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  Speaker 2: with Von Miller, the year that he won the Superbowl.
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  Speaker 2: And he would come in on certain plays where they
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  Speaker 2: needed a big, big spark play and let these guys
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  Speaker 2: who've been training all year and kind of just tee off.
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  Speaker 2: Because like I said, it's, that D line, even without
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald and you just interject, uh, miles Garrett, or
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  Speaker 2: you take miles Garrett back off and you insert, uh, Jared,
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  Speaker 2: Jared verse, and you upgrade the secondary like they did,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I still would have been picking them to be, uh,
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  Speaker 2: super favorites.
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  Speaker 1: You know, who really is going to have a fun year. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Byron Young, Nate Landman, and Omar Spates, the linebackers in this,
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  Speaker 1: the standup linebackers in this defense that now are going
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  Speaker 1: to get untouched on so many plays because the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line and the blocking scheme is so caught up with
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  Speaker 1: those guys up front. If you're Nate Landman, and did
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  Speaker 1: you play against Nate Landman when he was at Colorado?
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  Speaker 2: Um, possibly I'm not positive.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember. I think he might, he's a little younger.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember if he you guys would have crossed over.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, great player, awesome tackling machine, right? But now
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't get blocked. Like this changes that whole defense drastically.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, If you have an MVP quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: you got two really good receivers outside. You got a
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  Speaker 2: really good running back. You got probably the best coach
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. And that team is all about they
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: have so many guys who have been in those big
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: games before. Obviously, guys have won the Super Bowl. So,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: you know, the only thing they can do. get anywhere
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: near close to stopping this team would be injury, which
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: we don't wish because, you know, I want to see
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: this team fully healthy the whole year and, you know,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: see how dominant they actually can be, right? But, you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: at the same time, when you stack a lot of
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: stars on stars on stars, it hasn't always been the greatest,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: but hopefully that's a little different this year.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Do you like watching NFL football, like just as a fan,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: watching college football or watching NFL football more?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: You know, I watch certain games depending on who's playing. So,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: you know, my former teams I've played for, you know,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I'll watch those teams just from the guys that I
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: know that are still on the team. So I'll watch
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: from that aspect. But if it's just like, you know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals versus the Browns, you know, I'm not watching
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: football that much. But if it's, you know, if it's
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: guys that I know that are going to play a
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: big part in the game on offense, defense, or especially
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: in whatever it may be, you know, I'll, I definitely
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: watch it and have my YouTube TV where I can
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: watch multiple games at once. That's where I'm at these days.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Well, Zach, we'll see you up there on Thursday. Good
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: luck on your first official game broadcast. That'll be a
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: lot of fun. And we'll be chatting again soon.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Thanks, man. No problem. Thank you.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Zach Moss, sideline reporter on the official Utah radio broadcast.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Bill Riley is the voice of the Utah on the call.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Of course, Stevenson Sylvester. moves from the sideline up to
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: the booth. He'll be your color analyst this year, and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Zach Moss taking over sideline duties on that radio broadcast.