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The DISTURBING Truth: How Seed Oils, the Vatican, and Procter & Gamble Are Connected w/ Dan Lyons · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Seth Holehouse: Welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. And if this is your first time here in the channel, welcome. It's great to have you here. My name is Seth, and I'm on a journey to figure out what's really going on in this world.
• 0:28
  And as you would probably agree with me, things are really confusing right now, and you can't trail you can't tell true from false or lie from truth. Everything's inverted. So I'm just on a journey to talk to experts and do my research and try to figure out what's happening in the world, and more importantly, how to make it through, how to survive, and how to thrive, and how to find some hope and positivity, and all the craziness that's going on today. And so today's show is gonna be a deep dive into seed oils. I'm sure that you've heard this.
• 0:59
  Maybe you've been aware of it for quite some time, or maybe your first time interacting with seed oils was RFKG or talking about them and how bad they are. I know for me, it's been the past couple of years learning a lot about seed oils and how bad they are that makes me now look at every ingredient of every food that I'm eating and saying, okay. Is there cottonseed oil in there or rapeseed oil or soybean oil and saying, if there is, I'm not eating it. But the history of seed oils and what's really going on is quite frightening. And so my guest today, Dan Lyons, who's a good friend of mine, and he's a an exercise science guy.
• 1:33
  He knows a lot about the human body and knows a lot about metabolism, but also how things like seed oils actually affect our ability to burn fat and stay healthy and how seed oils, lead to cancer and cell death and all kinds of bad things. But beyond that, what's even crazier is the history of seed oils and what Dan's gonna be talking about today. There are things that even I didn't know about the fact that seed oils don't just start with Procter and Gamble in the early early nineteen hundreds and Crisco and all that which may be familiar with, but it actually goes much deeper into the British crown, the Vatican, the, you know, old world order of the, you know, these the the East Indian trading company and all this. So there's some major kind of stuff we're gonna be uncovering that helps you understand why seed oils were pushed in America, but also even more insidious the strategy of timing it so that when public trust for one particular seed oil or trans fat fell and collapsed, there just so happened to be an expert out there to agree with the public and guide them through the the the distrust of the bad thing, but it was all done to introduce the next bad thing that people would be disarmed because it was like, oh, the new thing will replace the old thing, which is really bad, but actually the new thing is just as bad.
• 2:55
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• 5:24
  Mister Dan Lyons, it is so good to have you back on, man. Thank you so much for being here with us today.
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: It's great to be here, Seth. Good to see you again, and I'm excited to get into it.
• 5:36
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. So we've done a couple of shows before in before, mostly focused on things surrounding health, but also, I'd say the merger of health and wellness and fitness, and you've got a very strong fitness background. But looking at how all that merges into the, realistically, the the bigger depopulation agendas, to put it bluntly. And so, you know, one of the big things that people are talking about, which we did a whole show on this, gosh, probably a year ago, is seed
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: oils. Ago.
• 6:07
  Seth Holehouse: Right? Yeah. So, you know, with RFK, you know, junior talking about this more publicly, there's been, you know, a lot of people that are more aware of seed oils have been, you know, shouting from the rooftops about this stuff for quite some time, but it's now it's entering into that public discourse. And so I know that seed oils are something that you understand, like like, very, very well, and not only from the, like, metabolic, you know, way, like, you know, what they are, how they affect our body, but also the history of them. So let's start with the the this kind of the more nuts and bolts.
• 6:39
  What are seed oils and what are they in? How how how how are they kinda labeled in food? But then also, how do they affect our bodies? Why are they bad for us? Are they leading to obesity epidemics, etcetera?
• 6:52
  We'll start there, and then I I can't wait to dive into the history of seed oils because what you told me before we start recording is that it doesn't just go back to Procter and Gamble in the eighteen hundreds. It goes back to the Vatican and and some much deeper, deeper things, which I think is always fascinating. So I'll hand it over to you and and and wherever you wanna start.
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. No. Definitely. So one thing to add about that is, you know, there's a lot of a lot of people that are doing documentaries on seed oils and reporting on the dangers of seed oils, and I'm so glad that that people are doing that.
• 7:27
  But I feel like there's an area that is it needs to be exposed. It's a lot of these shows that I'm seeing are starting with Procter and Gamble. And as you said, Seth, it's much deeper. The Procter and Gamble is kinda only the tip of the iceberg. So I'm really excited to get into that.
• 7:44
  But, yeah, what are seed oils? I kinda wanna give everyone a reminder of of what these are. So seed oils are industrially made oils that basically if I were to sum it up, they in their perfect world would someday completely replace animal fats with these seed oils. So they've misled the public into consuming them to the point where they're making us sick and overweight. So this is what they do.
• 8:14
  Seed oils create insulin resistance, they create obesity, they create cancers, they create cognitive decline, heart disease, and all sorts of other issues. So seed oils are also called vegetable oils to make them seem more healthy, trying to appeal to the people who were kind of swept up by the whole plant based movement. Another term for these oils are called edible oils. So they use all these different angles to try to get to us and to try to manipulate us into accepting seed oils into our food. They use all these different angles.
• 8:58
  In reality, these are industrially made oils that are not meant to be consumed by us. We have never been exposed.
• 9:08
  Seth Holehouse: Here's a little just a a graphic I found of this now this is that types of vegetable oils, but also identifies what are seed oils. Right? So canola, cottonseed, grape seed, rice bran oil, sunflower oil, you know, even, you know, linseed oil, peanut oil. Mhmm. So these are just a list of of seed oils, which I mean, it sounds so innocent.
• 9:31
  You're like, oh, there's grape seed oil in this. Like, that that can't be too bad. Right? But
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 9:38
  Seth Holehouse: So what what do okay. So different kinds of oil. I'll pull it right back up now. We've got, say, avocado oil or coconut oil or olive oil, which those are three different kinds of oils we use pretty often in our household. We don't use canola oil or corn oil or, you know, seed oils.
• 9:54
  Right? The you know, that are have the bad rap. Yeah. Which I learned that from you. And also, know, my wife's been covering this for quite some time as well.
• 10:01
  She's been telling me about this. So Yeah. What basically, we'll get into I wanna talk about how they're made. So I wanna talk about, like, how seed oils are actually made, but then also how they affect the body. So walk us through that.
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Definitely. And, also, I I love the the the little image you pulled up there because it looks so benign. Everything's green, and it almost looks like it's appealing to children. And I think they use the color green a lot to try to make it seem like more organic.
• 10:34
  Like you'll see organic foods in the store that have green labeling and whatnot. But obviously it's a sham. So to answer your question, how do they make these oils? First they use hexane which is a neurotoxin and they use this to separate the seeds from the oil. Then they boil the oil which sterilizes it, yet in that process creates something called toxic aldehydes.
• 11:02
  Now these are the same compounds that are found in cigarette smoke that cause cancer, toxic aldehydes. So just right there, boiling these creates those, okay? So then they bleach the oil to lighten it so it looks more appealing. Then they use a steam injection process to eliminate the odor. Okay?
• 11:29
  Because remember, well, actually I didn't talk about it yet, but the oils are actually rancid. And one of the reasons that they're rancid is because they're sterilized with heat by boiling them. So this is why they smell so terrible. So that's kind of the whole process that they use to make seed oils. They started a long time ago with that process and they're still using it the same process today.
• 11:54
  So that's what we're ingesting when we're ingesting these quote, unquote, heart healthy, climate friendly. They like I said, they use all these different angles, and that's what we're ingesting. We're inject ingesting this horrible mixture of just toxic aldehydes, which create cancer and bleach and all this just nasty stuff.
• 12:18
  Seth Holehouse: Well, so here's just a little chart.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 12:19
  Seth Holehouse: I I searched for, you know, how seed oils are made. Here's one called the tortured journey of a seed. So
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 12:25
  Seth Holehouse: It starts with seeds. They they're clean seeds. They grind them, then they pulverize them, then they press them, and they extract this oil, then they add hexane and other solvents to the oil, then they boil Mhmm. That substance, then they refine the oil, they put it into centrifuge, then they degum the oil, then they bleach the oil, then they deodorize the oil, then they add citric acid, then they either add preservatives or hydrogenate, like, as examples for margarine. Right?
• 12:53
  We we hydrogenated palm oil. Right? Hydrogenated corn oil, hydrogenated oils, and you end up with vegetable oil. So it's it's it's what's crazy. You think like, oh, vegetable oil.
• 13:03
  They probably just take all these vegetables and put them into a big vat, and they squeeze them, and here's this vegetable oil. Like, this is a crazy process. This chart looks like something I'd be studying in science class about how they'd make some sort of, you know, chemical used in, like, you know, industrial waste cleansing or something. I mean, this is so this is how they make it, which seems crazy, crazy bad and unhealthy. Right?
• 13:26
  It's it's horrible. Go ahead.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: No. No. I was just gonna add that this this just it makes me think back to a couple weeks ago when I didn't get into an argument with someone, but there was there was a a public page on Facebook about health and wellness and exercise physiology, which is what I went to school for, and someone brought up seed oils. And I just kinda said my 2¢ about it. And, like, the admin of the page and this page has, like, 500 and something thousand followers.
• 13:57
  The admin of the page came back at me, like, himself and responded to me. And he's, like, you know, basically saying that seed oils are healthy for us and this and that. And I'm like, man, you know what? I'm not even gonna argue. He wanted me to, like, list all these sources and everything.
• 14:13
  And I'm like, you know what? If you want to eat these industrially made oils, be my guest. You know? And it just when I saw that graph, it just made me kinda think back to that, but sorry for that side note.
• 14:24
  Seth Holehouse: No. No. It's it's it's it is it's just a good reminder that even in a, you know, half a million large group of exercise and fitness people that there's still folks. The same way with, like, you talk about big pharma, that you you mentioned something about, you know, autism or something, and they'll come they'll they'll just they'll launch into these, like, foaming at the mouth attacks. Like, how dare you question this?
• 14:47
  You know what I mean? It's like,
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: oh, holy cow. Absolutely foaming at the mouth.
• 14:50
  Seth Holehouse: You've been injecting seed oils, haven't you? Right? And so okay. So we we've established this very unhealthy process of making seed oils. Now Mhmm.
• 15:04
  What happens like like, I grew up, unfortunately, eating seed oils. You know, as an adult, I've I've stopped as I've learned more, but, I mean, you know, my mom, you know, she was in the generation where Crisco, right, where Crisco like, you know, they they even what how how they they got these housewives hooked on Crisco's, they they give it away for free at stores. Like, when they launched Crisco, it was a massive marketing campaign to get women to to use Crisco, like, you know, shortening, vegetable shortening, right, and making cookies or something. And so, you know, even for me growing up, you know, my my mom wasn't aware of these things. She fed us healthy stuff, but she, you know, she thought these things were good.
• 15:41
  We used to have, I can't believe it's not butter, margarine in our fridge. And now I now I won't go anywhere close to it. Like, I wouldn't even feed it to my dogs. Right. Right?
• 15:49
  So when you ingest this seed oil that's made in this process, which we just looked at, which is, like, I don't wanna eat anything that goes through that journey. Right? Mhmm. So what how do seed oils affect affect us? Like, do they lead to obesity?
• 16:06
  Do they how do how how what what happens when someone eats seed oils all their life? Like, what's what what's the difference?
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So trying to stay at sort of a high level here because I know last year at this time, I went really into the science and people loved it, but kind of trying to trying to stay a little bit more high level these days with it. When you ingest these seed oils, there's a lot of parts to these oils that basically they combine with something called reactive oxygen species, which is just a product. It's a waste product that your body makes, and it destroys the mechanism that your cells make energy.
• 16:44
  It's called the electron transport chain. It's located in your mitochondria and that's how much science I'm going to go into because I'm trying to keep it high level here but it basically creates this issue where your cells cannot make energy from the food that you eat. So you end up storing the food as body fat, and that's one of the reasons it creates obesity, and it creates all sorts of, like, weight gain and and everything, unintended weight gain over the years. What it also does is it it causes cellular mutations. It causes DNA mutations.
• 17:20
  It spirals into cancers. It also causes something called apoptosis, which is cell death. That can spiral into cognitive decline issues like dementia, Alzheimer's, and other cognitive issues. So also it makes cells sick. So when cells can't make energy properly from the food that you're consuming, your cells actually become insulin resistant.
• 17:43
  So that's at the cell cellular level, your cells put up their roadblocks and say, I don't I don't want any more food. I'm sick. So that's when you become insulin resistant. So everyone's focusing on carbohydrate saying, oh, carbs cause insulin resistance, carbs cause type two diabetes and they and they do but it's conveniently kind of like, you know, I I I forget forget what the actual term is. The the fake illusion of of what's causing the major underlying issue.
• 18:21
  The underlying issue is, seed oils and just other other compounds, other foods that have compounds in them that seed oils have. So hopefully, I sum that up in a high level, but still I I I always like to get into the science a little bit because it gives people kind of, you know, more more of the picture than what what they're used to getting. So that's what it does. It creates sickness. It creates disease, and that's why you should stay away from these seed oils.
• 18:52
  Seth Holehouse: So I pulled up So here's just a basic list. I know I had the graphic, but my my next question is, you know, how do we know what seed oils are, you know, are in what we're eating? Like, what do we look out for? And so here's just a list. This is in Google said, some seed oils that are often considered unhealthy include canola, which is rapeseed oil, which is I think that they I I remember reading about that and how they intentionally changed the name the name to canola because rapeseed didn't really sound that very like, I don't wanna have, like Yeah.
• 19:22
  Rape seed. Right? Like, how do they how do they process that? You know? Anyway, so
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 19:28
  Seth Holehouse: Corn oil, cottonseed oil, grape seed oil, rice bran oil, soybean oil, safflower oil, and sunflower oil. So these are the things that am I correct that if you have a drink or a a snack or whatever it is, I mean, like, my wife and I, we look at the ingredients of every single thing that we eat, especially anything that goes to our kids. Now granted, if we're going out to eat or eating in a restaurant and, you know, we don't do fast food, but maybe sometimes, you know, they're gonna have these oils in there. You can't always avoid it, but by and large, like, none of these oils will ever enter into our house. And so is it as simple as just looking at your your ingredient list on your food?
• 20:07
  And if you see any of these oils listed on there, you just stay absolutely far away?
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: It it kind of is. You'll find that a lot of these oils are in everything. Now especially you'll see soybean oil in The US is it's it's the it's the most widely used seed oil in, you know, big food. So, you you probably won't see rice bran oil that much. You'll see safflower oil.
• 20:37
  You'll see sunflower oil a little bit less but yeah, if you just stay away from those oils, you're you're gonna be in good shape. But also you need to do other things too. This thing that I'm about to say seems like it has nothing to do with it but go for grass fed animal products, not grain fed. Because grain fed animal products actually have a lot of the same compounds that seed oils have. So you wouldn't you wouldn't think that, but, you know, commercially grown chicken and pork and beef, they have a lot of these ingredients in them.
• 21:18
  So, you know, you know, they they don't have soybean oil in them, but they have high levels of linoleic acid, which is, you know, one of the bigger issues with seed oils. And they have this because grain is high in linoleic acid. So you are what you eat. Animals eat grain fed animals that are grain fed are gonna be high in whatever, compounds are in grain and linoleic acid is in grain, and that's one of the major compounds that creates issues in seed oils. So stay away from seed oils.
• 21:53
  Stay just stay away from big food in general. Grow your own food, go to farmer's markets, get to know your local farmer. That's that's what I can say about that.
• 22:04
  Seth Holehouse: So basically, even, because sometimes you'll look in there'll be organic, you know, chicken or, you know, organic chicken eggs or organic beef, and it it still might be grain fed. Like, oh, we we feed them organic grain, but, you know, if you think about a cow in a natural environment, right, they're eating mostly, you know, grass primarily. I mean, you can just have, you know, straight grass fed. The other thing is also, you know, when we're when we're looking for beef, specifically for beef, make sure it's grass fed and grass finished. Right?
• 22:38
  Because that's another thing too is that it's like it's it's it's so deceptive, and I I agree with you completely, which is just, you know, connect with your local farmer. Like, that that's what we do. Right? So all of the all the beef, all the chicken, everything that we're eating comes from local farms. And and, thankfully, you know, near us, there's a grocery store which carries mostly local stuff.
• 22:58
  Like, they're not and and they still carry, say, like, you know, Tyson chicken breasts. Right? Or Yeah. You know, Smithfield, you know, ham or whatever, but we we don't buy that stuff. You know, thankfully, they carry, you know, stuff.
• 23:09
  They'll say, hey. This is from a a local, you know, a local farm in this region. It's like, oh, okay. But the best though is that, you know, I know a lot of farmers, and we just go straight to the farmers, and we just buy from them directly. So, okay, so that makes sense.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Best way to do it.
• 23:24
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Well, it's also one of ways too that you can make sure that they're not putting any kinds of antibiotics or any kind of jabs in those animals, because I'll just ask
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: the farmers straight up. It's like,
• 23:33
  Seth Holehouse: what are your cows eating? And and sometimes they won't be organic because they're like, look, we're not gonna go through the the the the, you know, jump through the hoops to become organic because it's expensive, and there's always other regulations. They say, look, we don't spare our fields. They eat only grass. It's like, oh, okay.
• 23:47
  Like, I I like that.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And one of the things because I I live up in Maine. One of the things that I always ask I I say, okay, your your cows are grass fed. What do they eat in the winter?
• 24:00
  You know, they can't eat grass in the winter. So they'll say, well, okay. Alright. It's not exactly all grass. You know, we we feed our cows grain, which, you know, I mean, I they have to make a living and everything, but there are certain ways that you can get by with with if you wanna have your cows eating, you know, hay and and just not grain during the winter.
• 24:29
  So it's it's it's tough to it's tough to find strictly grass fed, grass finished in the North Country with snow, of course.
• 24:38
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, yeah. That's true. That's true. So Yeah. Wonka so okay.
• 24:42
  I wanna start doing kinda looking into, like, the history of seed oils. Right? Without getting too much into the obviously, we've we've covered the production. Right? It looks like a science experiment.
• 24:51
  But, you know, a lot of people, will look back, and they'll research seed oils, and it points back to Procter and Gamble. Right? And which I think was one of the major pushes for seed oils in America. But, you know, so so starting with Procter and Gamble, like, walk us through what you've discovered in in your quest for dig you know, getting to, like, the the bottom of this in terms of where is this originate from? Like, kinda walk us back in the history starting with, you know, maybe Procter and Gamble and how they were introduced into America, but then also where it goes from there.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Now I I have to say that I'm I'm always learning just like all of us are always learning. And, you know, I was convinced for a long time that Procter and Gamble were kind of the start of this.
• 25:33
  In reality, they weren't. This this went way back way back into the cotton trade. So basically, there was this company called the East India Company, and that might ring a bell because, the Pirates of the Caribbean movie, you heard, you know, they were talking about the East India trade company. See, Hollywood always likes to let us know in in weird ways who's who's in charge, who's calling the shots. So if anyone remembers that pirates of the Caribbean or Caribbean or however you wanna say it movie, you'll remember the East India Company.
• 26:14
  Well so there was a British and a Dutch a Dutch faction, and this company monopolized cotton trade. And this was a globalist entity for controlling just trade in general throughout the world. It was chartered by Queen Elizabeth the first and written into the company's provisions was an allowance for that company to create their own currency, raise their own armies, and rage war against any entity that they thought necessary. So how crazy is that? This was a company that was able to have that much power.
• 26:53
  So Crazy. The East India yeah. It's crazy. The the East India company was actually the trade arm of the British crown and ultimately controlled by the Vatican military order and something called the committee of three hundred, which I'm pretty sure a lot of people probably haven't heard about. But, you know, you'll you'll hear me kinda throw around a lot of organizations in this presentation here, but in reality, everything is tied to the Vatican military order.
• 27:25
  So, you know, this East India company was responsible for the opium policy in China, which basically turned China into a nation of addicts. K? They completely took over India. They also controlled global slave trade and and global cotton trade. So this military order through an apparatus called the Royal Institute of International Affairs, which at the at at the time was called something different.
• 27:55
  They they forced the first industrial revolution in the '17 and the eighteen hundreds. It was a global military order just like the forcing of today's fourth industrial revolution. K? So, the goal of this first industrial revolution was to centralize manufacturing. So, and it was under the guise of making the economy better and more stable and accessible for people.
• 28:20
  So this required, you know, lots of new machines. It was there was chemical manufacturing. There was iron production. There was water power, steam power, machine tools. And up until this time, cotton production had a waste product known as cottonseed oil.
• 28:40
  So this is kinda where I'm going with this. So cottonseed oil was was a thing during that time, but it wasn't really in our food supply yet. They had to introduce it slowly.
• 28:54
  Seth Holehouse: So So basically okay. So East India Company, which, you know, I've come across them in different, you know, you know, researching and and going back into history, and, you know, lot yeah. You you can see it's the British crown and, you know, the Vatican, and so, you know, East India Company, which, you know, really a lot of your your pirates, you think of pirates. You know, they these are people that, at that time, the global trade was just through, you know, kind of, you know, boats. Right?
• 29:17
  It it was through, you massive naval boats, you know, primarily kinda taking things. Obviously, it was it was land based trade as well. So but cotton, right, obviously, at that time was was prominent. We've been using cotton for quite some time. And so what you're saying, is that imagine a future where your wealth is untouchable.
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• 31:23
  They were trading and producing and manufacturing, and one of the the, you know, kinda key goods or commodities that they were trading was cotton. And so Yes. So, basically, in that process of them ref you know, kind of processing the cotton that there is this oil, like, those kind of a waste product, right, of the of the cotton. Is that correct?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: That is a % correct. Yes. And early on, it was it was killing animals, you know, that were outside of of facilities where they were, you know, doing their cotton. It was it was it was crazy even back then, what what this stuff was was doing to the environment. And and if you fast forward for today, you know, they're trying to tell us that this is good and this is sustainable, these these seed oils.
• 32:12
  So, you know, meanwhile so there's two different stories, and they're going to come together. The the the government the US government, in 1851, started distributing soybeans to farmers in the Corn Belt, specifically in Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, and Nebraska. And this was done under an agreement with the British crown and the US government. So if you do a quick search on this, you won't find the truth. You have to really dig deep and if you do a search on this, you'll hear how soybeans got into The US was there was one shipwrecked crew member who brought some soybeans over as a gift to the governor of Illinois or whatever it was.
• 33:01
  And, you know, it caught on and it spread to other states. In reality, soybeans were artificially pushed for a specific purpose. Similar to I mean, you can think about it kind of like how things like the Black Lives Matter movement was artificially pushed for a specific purpose. They they wanted to get soybeans into The US for a reason. So, you know, you had the soybean infiltration going on on one hand, and while they were slowly getting rid of unhealthy fats on the other hand.
• 33:38
  And, you know, at this time, all along, whale fat, raccoon fat, other animal fats were used. They were used for things like soap, skin products, lamp oil, cooking oil, and, you know, this was like throughout the eighteen hundreds, the global order phased all of this out because, obviously, as we all know, they need to do things very slowly so people don't really catch on. So the whole eighteen hundreds, they were phasing this out. They artificially accelerated the the first industrial revolution, and, you know, just animal fats couldn't couldn't keep up. So they used the eighteen hundreds to slowly create a demand for an alternative to natural fats.
• 34:31
  So by the early nineteen hundreds, it was time for them to come in with their first solution, which was cottonseed oil. So, you know, the once toxic waste was now coming to the rescue for big industry. This was, you know, put in soaps, skin products, cooking oils, and now products were suddenly more affordable because they were composed of cottonseed oil. So meanwhile, back to the soybeans because these like I said, these things are gonna tie together. Soybeans were becoming the main source of feeding for all animals across The United States.
• 35:13
  Soybeans were native to China and should never have been they they should never have left China. They should never been, never have been pushed artificially to The US and to the world. Cows, chickens, pigs were suddenly thrown into eating a diet of 90% soy, And you can kinda think of it like this was their testing grounds for getting soy into our diets. Now back to cottonseed oil. Here comes William Proctor and James Gamble who were funded by the British crown to create a corporation called Procter and Gamble.
• 35:53
  So 1911, Procter and Gamble officially come out with a product called Crisco and begin marketing it to the masses. Now Crisco was hydrogenated cottonseed oil and I just want to briefly explain, I know I went into the, I said I wasn't going to go into the science, but the hydrogenated cottonseed oil, what that means is to make cottonseed oil stable they had to artificially add in hydrogens into the fatty acid chains. They added in these hydrogens into the transposition of the fatty acid chains and that's why they were called trans fats. So it's a little fun fact there. So I wanna stress that Procter and Gamble and Crisco, they it it wasn't just a fluke.
• 36:40
  K? They weren't just two random businessmen who were greedy capitalists and took advantage of the system. They were propped up by many different entities, but ultimately, the global military order. So like I said before, there's a lot of information out there that pin it pins everything on Procter and Gamble. And, okay, Procter and Gamble are not innocent.
• 37:06
  They are part of this monster too. But they weren't just this, like, one off corporation that was greedily started by these these two guys that would be really nearsighted to to just end the conversation there. These guys were just puppets of the global order. Just like today's Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab and all those lovely people. But, you know, as time went on, Procter and Gamble, the company itself, became more shady, and this kinda helped to pin the blame on Procter and Gamble.
• 37:47
  So for example, the heir to the Procter and Gamble fortune, doctor Clarence Gamble. In the early nineteen hundreds, he was heavily involved with Harvard Medical School Eugenics Research, racial purity, and sterilization. So that was at Harvard Medical School and, you know, that's kind of, like, shady right there, and I think a lot of people kinda harp on on that part of it. And, you know, let's just kinda back up and look at the culture at this time. You'll notice that all of the cookbooks that you see in the early nineteen hundreds, butter and lard were taken out, and Crisco was put in instead.
• 38:36
  And all the advertising was pushing Crisco, pushing, you know, this this horrible new solution that they had and phasing out animal fats. So they were saying things like, you know, modern housewives use Crisco. It's an old barbaric idea to use animal fats. What was another one? It's more stylish to use Crisco.
• 39:00
  It was healthier to use Crisco. And, you know, it was kind of like that slogan that we hear a lot today that, oh, you know, get with the times slogan. It was it was alive and well back then too. They they were very clever about their their marketing, their advertising. So, you know, how did they coordinate this cultural shift?
• 39:22
  Seth Holehouse: Well Actually, Dan, sir,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I'll Yeah. Know if you're
• 39:25
  Seth Holehouse: real quick, I was just looking. I found, this is an old ad from 1937. This is actually an eBay listing. You can buy this, you know, you know, print ad. Right?
• 39:35
  This is what, you know, this is what it looked like. So women praise the five miracles of Crisco. This and this is crazy. It's like, wow. Your new Crisco is a miracle of creaminess in cakes.
• 39:48
  It creams with sugar and eggs in only thirty seconds. It says Crisco isn't just creamed in just two or three times, it's creamed over and over again. It's super creamy. Right? So they they they talk about how it's medium it gives you malicious miraculously I said maliciously, miraculously light cakes, miraculously tender pastry, fried foods with miraculous crispness, and what miraculous digestibility.
• 40:13
  So you had this whole thing that, you know so New Crisco goes to town in 13 test cities with thousands of women, miraculous cooking results reported. It says, do you know do women know why they like New Crisco? Yes. In 13 cities, over 9,000 women were interviewed about Crisco, and as and a three to one preference for Crisco was volunteered by women, blah blah blah. Anyway, like, Just say Crisco at your store, and you'll get new super creamed Crisco.
• 40:43
  So this is I mean, this is crazy because this is propaganda. I mean, even even looking at the word of miracles and miraculous, they use miraculous in every single thing. They're calling it a miracle Yeah. Like, happy housewives. And again, this is 1937, so nowadays, you know, we're so I guess, I I hope most people are very suspicious, but in the nineteen thirties, you see it in a print ad, and you just trust.
• 41:11
  Right? You're just trusting. Wow. Yeah. Crisco's a miracle.
• 41:14
  Like, it's just crazy. This is what you'd call a psyop. It's a psychological operation where they've brainwashed people into consuming and feeding your children industrial waste oils. It's crazy that it started anyway, you can continue.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No. No. No. Definitely.
• 41:32
  So this is this is kind of this time period I I always refer to as the birth of consumer ignorance. It was like, you know, trust brand names and, you know, don't don't bother looking at ingredients. Just establish trust in in the brand. And this actually came from Tavistock. So Tavistock is basically institutionalized, propaganda, and it you can literally trace it to the crown.
• 42:04
  You can trace it to this military order. And all entertainment and advertising back then and now, but back then, because we're talking about back then, was controlled by an entity called the Star Group, which was a branch of Tavistock. So and this stuff is really hard to find. They they they make it that way on purpose. You know, they they it's it's easy to find what they want you to find, but in order to find the truth, really have to dig.
• 42:37
  So, you know, basically, all cookbooks, advertising, and the culture in general at this time switched from butter, lard, and beef tallow to Crisco. And this is all due to propaganda from Tavistock to
• 42:52
  Robert Kiyosaki: the Scar Group.
• 42:53
  Seth Holehouse: Changed. So it wasn't just Yep. Oh, so it it wasn't because that that's crazy. That's almost like you look at, you know, why are doctors pushing certain things? It's like, oh, well, they they changed the medical textbooks.
• 43:05
  They seized control of that. So that's crazy to imagine that that's how deep the SIOP was that now these women are buying their cookbooks, and they're looking through, it no longer says butter or lard, it just says Crisco. And so it's like, oh,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: here's a
• 43:20
  Seth Holehouse: recipe to bake miracle, miraculous cookies, but you gotta have your two cups of Crisco in it.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So if you look back at at all of the cookbooks that were, like, following 1911, everything is replaced with Crisco. The all the lard, the beef tallow, you know, you were seen seen as, like, you were, like, a heathen. You were not educated.
• 43:46
  They they use all sorts of angles to get people psychologically to stop using these healthy fats and to start using these poisonous fats. So so it's it's, frustrating, it's aggravating, but we're also in the midst of exposing it. I guess the frustration and aggravation is just part of exposing it, right?
• 44:12
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: So zooming out for a second, the early nineteen hundreds, the population of The US was a hundred million people. K? And after the first year of Crisco being on the scene, Procter and Gamble sold 60,000,000 units of Crisco, which again is hydrogenated cottonseed oil and extremely unhealthy. 60,000,000 units. So the propaganda surrounding Crisco at this time was the birth of consumer ignorance.
• 44:46
  K? And, again, this was I know I'm repeating myself, but this is this was, like, encouraging consumers to trust brands and not ingredients. So we still see this today. You know? People that they just get what what the label says on the front and they just pick it up.
• 45:06
  They don't even think twice about it. Things that they're putting in their body, people tend not to think about as much. We need to start thinking about what we're putting in our body. So, anyway, so, like, as this was all happening with Procter and Gamble, the same entities who were mass producing cottonseed oil started mass producing soybean oil. And in the nineteen forties, they basically put soybean oil in margarine, and this was the beginning of soybean oil in our food supply.
• 45:42
  So this was kind of like the shift, right? And in 1961, the American Heart Association came out with a recommendation that we should all eat more seed oils and less red meat. Now let me just say, the American Heart Association was paid off through Procter and Gamble, and this is why these dietary recommendations were announced by the American Heart Association. In reality, the American Heart Association and Procter and Gamble were just two assets of the same global military order. Specifically, were a part of Tavistock.
• 46:21
  So 1970 hits and there's two nutritionists that I truly believe had our best interest at heart. So their names were Mary Enig and Fred Kumero. And these two nutritionists basically started exposing trans fats. And the FDA did not ban them at this point, but they released a statement saying, oh, you know, trans fats are potentially harmful. You know, they can cause harm.
• 46:55
  Now why were these nutritionists allowed to expose trans fats and not be stopped? I mean, you can maybe a little bit of this is speculation, but, you know, the public needed to have these events happen where corruption is specifically exposed in a controlled way, and in doing this, it kinda retained trust in the illusion of freedom and justice. Well, so, know, trans fats were exposed and suddenly there was these new seed oils that were conveniently ready to go. They were ready to be deployed. So these these seed oils are exactly what you pulled up earlier, Seth.
• 47:40
  So soybean oil, at this point had been in the food supply for three decades. We have corn oil, sunflower oil, safflower oil, canola, grapeseed, rapeseed, and rice bran. So all of these oils were conveniently ready to go the the moment these nutritionists started exposing trans fats. So these new seed oils, yeah, they weren't trans fats, but they were still filled with all the same toxic chemicals, the toxic aldehydes, which I talked about earlier, also full of polyunsaturated fats which is the linoleic acid I was talking about earlier. It oxidizes.
• 48:26
  It becomes rancid very easily. So, all these oils were just conveniently ready to go and one of the things that happened was in the nineteen seventies, McDonald's abandoned beef tallow. They switched to soybean oil. So at this point in the nineteen seventies, soybean oil became the most dominant edible oil in The United States. So I'm gonna run through some important dates here starting in the nineties.
• 48:54
  So basically, 1990, the University of Missouri and the Missouri Soybean Merchandising Council funded a study showing that soybean oil the soybean oil based biodiesel was better than diesel fuel. K? And this is how soybean oil became not only an edible oil, but also oil that we use in engines. K? So this is why we hear a lot of people who are exposing these seed oils saying that, oh, these seed oils are merely engine lubricant.
• 49:31
  It's because they are. You know, this they they were used in both engines and our food. So then 1996 hits. Monsanto introduced the first genetically modified soybean. So now we weren't even getting soybean oil made from soybeans.
• 49:50
  We were getting genetically modified soybeans, and this was done by the order through China. And this is why it's a well known fact that, you know, China supplies our soybeans and our soybean oil today. The China everything runs through China for our soybean oil. So 1999 hits. Executive order 13134, I think it is, called for the expansion of soybean based products in engines and in our food supply.
• 50:25
  So that was 1999. By 02/2001, soybean oil accounted for 90% of all the domestic and global edible oil industry. 90%. Two thousand and two, the institute of medicine issued a report stating the consumption of trans fats should be as low as possible. So they're still kind of stoking the whole trans fat thing.
• 50:53
  02/2003, the FDA finally released, they finally basically said that trans fat labeling needs to happen. They need to basically disclose if there's trans fats in a given food. 2011, the U. S. Biodiesel industry breaks 1,000,000,000 gallons produced marked.
• 51:18
  So as you can see, all this is kind of building. Right? And we're getting more and more soybean oil. We're getting more just the soybean oil industry and and the edible oil industry is just growing exponentially. So basically by 2018, food manufacturers must ensure that their products no longer have trans fats.
• 51:46
  And by 2024, '9 point '3 billion pounds of soybean oil is put into our food supply. So I truly believe that all of these dates that I just rattled off about, you know, trans fats being exposed and the push pull and everything, it's almost like it's the classic watch this hand instead of this hand type thing because there was all this legal stuff going on with trans fats. Meanwhile, you know, on the other hand, by 2024, '9 point '3 billion pounds of soybean oil is put into our food supply. So it's it's it's staggering because this soybean oil, as we were saying in the beginning, causes all sorts of medical issues. It causes obesity.
• 52:38
  It causes diabetes. It causes cancers. It causes a whole slew of issues. And this is the amount of of soybean oil that we are consuming in The US, Nine Point Three Billion pounds. So that's up until today.
• 52:55
  So, okay, zooming out for a minute. Where do I think that we stand today? I truly think that we have two new world orders fighting with each other. I do. And in the midst of this, we have Trump who won the presidency despite several assassination attempts, One of which I don't think possibly could have been faked.
• 53:26
  You know, that I know that there's people out there that are skeptical of everything, and I'm glad that they're skeptical of everything. It's better than being, you know, ignorant to everything. But, you know, we also have r f k junior who's coming into this at the same time, and hopefully, he'll be shutting down the seed oil industry. We have people waking up not in a typical way either. So like I said, usually, both military orders, they use some sort of, you know, manufactured demolition to purposely expose a problem so that they can come out come out with their solution.
• 54:03
  It's called Hegelian dialectic. In my opinion, with the way people are waking up, I just don't see it that way this time. I think that people are rising up. I truly think that our institutions will be changing, and it'll hopefully be by the people and for the people. And these two orders are so focused on competing with each other that they're missing the fact that people are waking up.
• 54:30
  And this this is why I think things have been so crazy lately. So there's a couple different things going on here, but, you know, going back to the moral of the story, seed oils are being exposed. That's a good thing. Yes. We we need to keep keep our our foot on the gas though.
• 54:51
  We need to keep educating people and we need to keep telling people to stay away from these toxic seed oils. Everything from the way that they are created and, you know, the entities behind them in the sixteen hundreds that pushed for all this and, you know, it's it's it's so much to process. I know I rattled off a lot of dates, but, you know, don't believe the Tavistock propaganda, that seed oils are healthy. They're not healthy. They're not sustainable.
• 55:23
  How could a like that that picture that you showed earlier, Seth, up on the screen. How could that possibly be healthy? Heart healthy, sustainable, like the the whole processing with the hexane and the bleaching, you know, that that is not what we should be eating. We should be getting back to nature. We should be exercising regularly.
• 55:49
  Yeah. There it is.
• 55:49
  Seth Holehouse: Not not eating this stuff. Like
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Well, not eating that poison.
• 55:56
  Seth Holehouse: So it this is kinda crazy because when you look into, you know, psychological operations and and, you know, mass programming and or if you even get, you know, get into reading Edward Bernays, right, the the kind of the the father of, you know, modern day propaganda and, you know, modern day advertising, right, which is just propaganda.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:14
  Seth Holehouse: It makes sense though that it's been this series of it's like, okay. Let's start with it's like, almost like we we have 10 we have 10 different solutions that are all bad. We'll start with the first one, and we'll see how long we can run with that. Right? The first one being cottonseed oil, which goes back hundreds of years.
• 56:32
  Okay? So now we're pushing that with these guys, Procter and Gamble, that were in the soap and the candle making business, handling using animal fats for that. Okay. Perfect company to come in, inject some capital, put them at the front. Now they're, you know, Fortune 500 company.
• 56:46
  You know, they're probably I think Fortune 100. I mean, they're huge, huge companies. Yeah. Right?
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Huge.
• 56:50
  Seth Holehouse: And so and you think, gosh. How did that company get so big? It's like, well, yeah. It was funded by the crown, you know, hundreds of years ago, right, with
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 56:58
  Seth Holehouse: Evil intentions. So it's like, oh, okay. Makes sense. Right. Right?
• 57:01
  So you have starting off with that, so you have the the first major push into the American market, which we know the American market determines a lot of the global markets. A lot of people are looking towards, okay, what's America doing? Now it's kinda the opposite. You know, it's like, why are these ingredients banned all over in Europe, but yet we're still feeding into our kids here. Right?
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: It's a good point.
• 57:19
  Seth Holehouse: You can't you can't even find them in pet food in Europe, yet they're feeding to our kids here. So, basically, you have this first push of cottonseed oil, Crisco, massive funding, massive propaganda, psychological operation to get Crisco into everything. Now once that's once we'll start coming to the end of that first cycle, as far as I'm understanding it, then comes in the soybean oils. Right? All but also all the other oils.
• 57:45
  Right? So I remember back, you know, my, you know, I was alive then back in the seventies. Right? My mom tells me when she was growing up and in seventies that that there's this huge this this massive demonization campaign of butter. Right?
• 57:57
  And so that's when they brought in margarine. Right? So you have this so we we go from cottonseed into soybean, and soybean, obviously, is still going strong, but then they're also, it's like whack a mole. Right? So you see there's one really bad thing that you kinda hit, you get rid of, and something else pops up.
• 58:13
  Right? So they have all these other oils that seem really, really good, and so it just seems like the whole process though has been one of we're gonna push this until we can't push it anymore, but then we're gonna make sure that once we know it's at the end of its life cycle of being accepted as, you know, healthy and people are seeing through it, we're gonna then have the experts come out and demonize it, then we're gonna push them into the next thing. And it's just cycle after cycle, but I I agree with you though that, like, right now, what's happening is this massive push towards what you described at the very beginning, going to your local farmer or better yet, raising your own animals. Right? Raising your own chickens, you're eating the eggs from chickens that, you know, you're you're you know what they're eating.
• 58:59
  And ultimately, I think this is this is what, like, I mean, a lot of what my life is is is figuring out these systems and figuring out how to go away from those systems and going back towards tradition and going back to how things used to be where, you know, your your local farmer, your local gardener, you know, that's how you're getting your foods. And I I agree with you though is that if you look at it, we're at the place where they can't replace it anymore. Like, the whole industry, it's like we we see through it now. I mean, not thankfully, you know, you and I do, and and the Man in America audience obviously does. I wish more Americans would, which is why we do these shows together.
• 59:36
  Right? Because we want more people, which is a good reminder for anybody watching this show. Send them, this show. Right? If you have friends or family that are still eating seed oils or or maybe on the verge of understanding them, this is a great explainer show for why seed oils are not good for you.
• 59:53
  But what you realize is ultimately, the globalist, the global communist, whatever we would refer to them as, they can't inject their ways of controlling us and making us sick if we're just local. Right? That's the thing is that if we're not buying Smithfield Ham, which is Chinese massive Chinese owned company, who knows they're putting into that stuff. Right? Probably people for all we know.
• 1:00:14
  Right? Yeah. Here comes a lawsuit from them. But just joking. Just joking.
• 1:00:20
  Right? Right. So, anyway, this it's crazy though that that you you see the ultimate solution is just cut out the global supply chain. Like, that's how you solve it. Right?
• 1:00:29
  Cut out the global supply chain.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Yep. And I I think I think it makes people nervous at first because, for example, you and me, Seth, I think we're the same age. We we grew up with convenience at our fingertips. Like, we we we didn't really have to struggle for our food, and neither really did our parents or our grandparents. But beyond that, you know, people had to hunt.
• 1:00:56
  There there wasn't this big, know, this is like a grocery store two seconds down the street. You could just go to and get anything you ever wanted. You could get, something, exotic, you know, some Chinese food this night and maybe Indian food that night and, oh, we'll go American tonight. It's just everything's easily accessible at our fingertips. And I think the thought of getting back to nature is very intimidating to people because they never experienced it.
• 1:01:25
  So, like, in my lifetime, I never had to I never had to, like, hunt to survive. I I I never, like, had no choice, but, you know, to like, it wasn't like I I I was like, okay. I'm either gonna grow my own food or I'm not going to eat. But I think once people get in the mindset of, okay, we all need to do this. We all need to say no to big food, to big pharma because big food is making us sick and then big pharma is the convenient solution to our sickness.
• 1:02:05
  And like I always say, both entities are controlled by BlackRock. So BlackRock's making money on the food industry and on big pharma, and we're getting sick from big pharma. I mean, we're getting sick from the food industry, and then we're getting healthy from big pharma even though we're just managing symptoms. Meanwhile, we're getting more sick because we're not being told that these foods are poisoning us and and destroying our our bodies. So, yeah, I guess the moral of the story is just try to put your mind in at least in motion to say, we need to get back to nature.
• 1:02:43
  You don't have to go, like, zero to a hundred and say, okay. I'm I'm never going to a grocery store after today. You know, you can start by saying, I'm I'm gonna think about it. You know, don't think about it too long, but you you gotta act and we we all need to stay stay away from big box stores, grow your own food, get back to nature, get back to what god intended for us. God did not intend for us to go get fruits and vegetables in the wintertime at Walmart.
• 1:03:16
  You know, like, where are these fruits and vegetables coming from? Are they coming from somewhere else in the world, or are they coming from a lab? Are they even real? You know? So I get very passionate about this.
• 1:03:28
  Seth Holehouse: Well, no. It's it's it's just funny because just today, I was out running errands with with Kate, my wife Kate, and we were talking and and, you know, so we what there's a little grow there's a little kind of local chain of grocery stores that we shop at that, you know, they've got, you know, mostly you know, they they they they carry the big name stuff, but they have a lot of locally sourced stuff, and then they make a point of, you know, finding local farmers and bringing their food into the into the market. Similar to a Whole Foods, but it's not a a national chain owned by Jeff Bezos. Right? Thankfully.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:58
  Seth Holehouse: And we're we're we're sitting here talking, and, you know, we we always get our groceries there. And if we're if we're not I mean, our number one priority, obviously, is we grow our own stuff. Then it's the farm market, the the farm stand, the local farmer. Then it's the local grocery store that sources from local farms. Right?
• 1:04:14
  That's kind of our chain of how we we buy things. And so we're leaving there, like, gosh, like, you know, we we love shopping there because it's such a nice experience and everything, and we passed Walmart. And Walmart, the parking lot's always packed. Right? You know, the the parking lot's the size of, you know, 30 football fields.
• 1:04:28
  It's always packed. And it was like, we we were kinda talking. It's like, gosh. It's sad to see, though, that there's so many people still going there to buy their food. But said, well, you know, I made a comment.
• 1:04:38
  Was like, well, they gotta maximize their EBT credits. And, like, that's true. Actually, unfortunately, it's like, gosh. And, you know, Kate made a good point. She was like, yeah.
• 1:04:46
  She's like, well, so here's how it works is the government subsidizes the monocrop agriculture. So there's all these, you know which is why, you know, the USDA, who's responsible for promoting the agriculture and also the company the organization that gave us the food pyramid that to support the the grain and the corn industry in in America, they put that as the bottom, the biggest part of the food pyramid. Right? So the government, which is subsidizing these massive monocrop industries that are, you know, basically controlled by Monsanto, right, the same company behind Agent Orange for, you know, all those that aren't really familiar with that. So subsidizes these, and the government then uses its agencies to tell the people in America, hey.
• 1:05:28
  Make sure you eat a lot of this kind of food. Okay? And then they use their their e b d EBT, you know, their credit. They get, hey. Here's some free food, basically, but you gotta make sure that you get as much as possible because it's still a small budget.
• 1:05:41
  So there's no way that you're gonna actually use your EBT and feed a whole family with really high quality organic local farm market stuff, let alone go to your local farm farmer and say, hey. Can I use my EBT card? They're gonna be like, sorry. Right? No.
• 1:05:53
  Cash only. Right? So then Yep. The people then are then they're in a lot of ways, they're forced to go buy bulk from Walmart. Right?
• 1:06:00
  And which is, you know, has all kinds of government subsidies to make sure they can, you know, operate the way they can. But then the people get sick, right, because they're eating all these seed oils, which are subsidized by the government with the money given to them by the government, and then the government comes in with their Obamacare or their insurance agent, you know, a whole industry that says, okay. Well, now that you're sick, the government will pay for these particular treatments for you. Like, you know, look, if you got cancer, no. You can't go do you know, we're not gonna pay for your high dose vitamin c.
• 1:06:29
  We're not gonna pay for your, you know, Letriel or whatever, but we're gonna pay for chemotherapy. Or if you go to the hospital, we're not gonna pay for organic or even healthy whole foods being fed to you. No. We're gonna be subsidizing Abbott Labs to make high fructose corn syrup hydrogenated Ensure, which they're pumping into the stomach while you're sick to make you even more sick, which may it's just it's this crazy thing. And, ultimately, what you see is the solution is basically strip the government back to almost nothing and let us go back to small local communities and everything, which is what, as you mentioned before, that does give me hope because I see that as much as there's all the black pillars out there and with Elon Musk and Trump and RFK and, of course, there's some red flags.
• 1:07:13
  You know, we gotta hold make sure that they're being, you know, held responsible to the demands of We the People, but fundamentally dismantling this corrupt deep state apparatus, that's how we make America healthy again.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was like you should have just dropped your mic right there, Seth. That was a mic drop moment. That was I I I I don't think I could have in a million tries, like, I I couldn't have done that like you just did, but it's it's so it's so true, man. It's so true.
• 1:07:42
  It's all connected. It's one big racket. And, you know, my wife, Kaylee, and I, we we talk about it all the time too. So it's it's really good to have a partner that's that's on the same page. And, you know, I I know plenty of people that their partner is not on the same page, and it just takes a little bit of nudging every once in a while.
• 1:08:01
  But, you know, if we all just kinda continue to nudge people and I think what it what also helps is, let's cross our fingers, the media has not been as intense with the propaganda. Obviously, they're always intense with propaganda, but this election season, they don't seem to be as severe as, you know, four, five, six years ago. So I feel like it's easier to talk to people that aren't on the same page now because the media doesn't have them all wound up. So if if anyone's out out there listening right now and they're thinking about, you know, discussing this with a family member that might be sick and, you know, you wanna try to explain to them about seed oils, do it. This this this is your sign.
• 1:08:50
  This this is your time here. And, if we all just do that and continue to push forward in nice, loving, gentle ways, then I think that we're gonna just continue to see this all unravel, which is what we all need.
• 1:09:05
  Seth Holehouse: I I couldn't agree more. And, honestly, my my own sense is that the momentum is behind the righteous, like, in every aspect. Like, the the it's the the I I think there was a shift that happened globally twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, and the the evil has lost a lot of control. Right? And I also I I I definitely agree with the whole two factions thing.
• 1:09:27
  I did an interesting interview with, Patrick Byrne recently talking about this exact thing, how there's these two kind of global factions battling things out. But what he said, which I agree with completely, is that twenty twenty, twenty twenty one is when there's a major fraction that happens. So we have the opportunity now to be to go on the offensive, yet we need to take the opportunity. And so a big part of it is making sure that we share information because fundamentally, the war that we're in is a psychological war. It's a war for the minds and therefore the souls of people around the world, so we have to get them back to truth.
• 1:10:03
  And not not to say that you and I are just here speaking pure truth. No. What we're doing is we're sincerely and genuinely trying to research and figure out what's going on and presenting to people to make up their own to draw their own conclusions from it. So, Dan, I know that you've got a u a or not YouTube because you can't talk of this on YouTube, but a Rumble channel, which Rumble is my you know, I love Rumble, which I will put in the description. And for anybody right now watching on Rumble, make sure after the show actually, even after the show right now, go to the description, click on this Rumble channel right now for the Patriot trainer, hit that follow button, make sure I'm gonna do it right now.
• 1:10:40
  Look. I'm gonna speak with my example. I'm gonna hit that follow button. Boom. Followed.
• 1:10:44
  Right? Make sure go
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: right now. Seth.
• 1:10:46
  Seth Holehouse: Of course. Of course. You got more follower. Actually, funny. I thought I was following your channel already, but either way, I'm following it now.
• 1:10:54
  So Nice. Anyway, the link is gonna be in the description. Make sure you go follow because, you know, Dan, what what you've what you've seen right today from Dan is just a small slice of the the knowledge that I've learned from you. I've you know, we we've been friends for for quite some time. I've learned a lot of information from you, but also just you're you're different.
• 1:11:13
  What's kinda cool though is there's a lot of medical freedom doctors that, you know, like doctor Brian Artis or Peter McCullough or doctor Jane Ruby. There's a lot of medical people, but I'm not seeing a lot of fitness people, And you're someone that comes from more of an exercise science and and fitness, and you're presenting things in a different way, which I think is really important. So, again, make sure you folks go follow the Patriot Trainer, which is Dan's channel over on Rumble. And as we're closing up, mean, gosh, we're already at over an hour, and I I feel like gosh. It's, like, fifteen minutes.
• 1:11:44
  But yeah. It's crazy. So, Dan, what are your what are your kind of closing thoughts for people as we we wrap up?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, my my my closing thoughts are just I'd be echoing what I said a minute ago and saying that, you know, it's, it's really, really important that people are open to learning about this information, and they don't get sucked into the propaganda from, you know, these entities like Tavistock, through the American Heart Association and the medical, establishment, and that they really try to just think for yourself. Just think for yourself and don't be afraid to kinda spread the word about health and well-being to the rest of your family and friends. And it's just always a pleasure, being on here and and talking to your audience, Seth, and talking to you. So, yeah, my my closing words is just thanks for having me on, and it's, it's been a pleasure.
• 1:12:40
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. And I guess, you know, one one big takeaway from this is if you're not already, buy local. Go to your local farm market. That's the bet that's the best thing you can do. Whatever city you're in, if if they have one, I'd hope they do.
• 1:12:53
  Obviously, right now in the winter, it's less common, but when the spring opens up, go to your local farm market. It's one of the best ways to meet all of your local farmers, get their business cards, make a connection with them. Not to mention if if the government really you know, if things go south in this country, which is very well real possibility of that, you know, being able to go and drive Timmits to your local farm to buy food, if there's food shortages or if the grocery stores are now demanding that you wear masks again or whatever it is, it's taking power away. Right? And I think that's the key is that ultimately, the power truly resides in each of us individually.
• 1:13:28
  We, the people. That's where the power comes from. And what they don't want us to know is that collectively, we're a million, a billion times more powerful than these these small fearful, Luciferian elites that think that they're God. Right? That's what they that's what they think.
• 1:13:43
  But the reality is is that we're not God, but we have God behind us, and that's that's the key.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And, you know, I'm just gonna just reinforce what you what you just said because that's the one thing I forgot to mention is you gotta establish a community. The community is is how we're gonna get through this. So go visit your local farms. You know, you don't have to interrogate the farmers.
• 1:14:07
  Just talk to them. Say, hey. What what what do you what do you feed your, your animals and this and that? And if you don't like what they have to say, then just move on to the next farm and try to create a community of people, and, that's that's the best thing that you can do.
• 1:14:21
  Seth Holehouse: Really is.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: I had to echo that, reinforce that. So
• 1:14:25
  Seth Holehouse: Well, Dan, it's always great speaking with you, man. Thank you so much for bringing this information to us today, and just, you know, take care, and God bless. Thank you for being here.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Seth. God bless you too.
• 1:14:36
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