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A Big Smug Bollocks: Sailing Around The World With Saint Brendan · Hocus Pocus Lack Of Focus

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  The Grid August Fall Juggle Hocus Pocus, Lack of focus.
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  The very uneducational podcast that brings you on a neuro
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  divergent journey through topics such as witchcraft, true crime,
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  paranormal activity and a whole heap of shy talk you won't need
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  in your brain. Today we are talking about the
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  journey of Brendan the Navigator AKA Saint Brendan's voyage.
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  We will be trying to separate the fact from the fairy tale.
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  To finally shove it down Christopher Columbus's neck and
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  no belief Ericsson's hole. To prove once and for all that
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  an Irishman discovered the Americas before any other
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  European hooked the fucking rah. I'm your cabin boy Justy and
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  I'll be here. Keep up the morale of the crew.
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  Now that we are not talking about fat raping murderers.
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  I'll be joined by our navigator, the man that will keep his
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  transatlantic trek on course to the rough waters that will be
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  his Co host. Meandering tangents.
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  It's a tough job, but no better bugle than Oshi.
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  No burn. I have been to the island of
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  sheep. And of.
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  Course, the captain of our ship, the Hostess with the most chest,
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  who in case of emergency, can be used as a couple of flotation
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  devices. She's been known to be blown off
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  porch, not hold on, not sorry. Wait.
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  She's known for blowing? Of course it's Danny Thomas.
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  I you think I'd get tired of these these?
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  Slut. Jokes, but I never do.
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  Yeah. Well, stopping a slut and I was,
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  I was very. For someone that has no sex.
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  Wow. Wow.
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  God. Yeah, well, listen, Danny,
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  Danny, Danny. Yeah, I I can only apologize for
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  the lack of eh, witty retorts or witty with witicisms in my
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  intro, but I have been very sick all week and I have just got my
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  energy back today I think. I'm fine.
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  Yeah, well, I've been sicker than a priest hard drive all
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  week. Like my fucking throat is
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  absolutely fucking Monday Night Raw, but I am.
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  Look, look, I'm here. I'm.
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  I'm ready to talk about saying Brendan, who I was so
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  enthusiastic to talk about until, yeah, I started studying.
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  Ready. Ready to talk about like a bunch
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  of men in a small boat venturing across the Atlantic.
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  But it doesn't hit the back nail test at all, does it?
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  Like this? There's there's not or the back
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  there, whatever the fuck is called.
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  But like, there's you. Just wanted no rape that that
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  was your 'cause you wanted no rape, no.
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  To be honest with you, I'm not sure there isn't, Danny.
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  Like, this is definitely just like, you know, between 14 and
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  21 men, Yeah. Visiting.
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  Rape visiting islands that also feature exclusively men and
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  animals. Yeah.
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  Lots of men and there's men on the islands and they go to
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  another island and it's full of men, yeah.
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  This is where we get our podcast featured on Pink News Now, Just
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  Pro Gay podcasts. Oh, I'd love to be.
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  I'd love to be a gay icon. Not where the money is made.
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  What I actually, yeah. I mean, yeah, I would love to
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  be. And it's always like the
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  straight men that they like hold as gay icons.
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  They're they're never like pro gay.
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  They're just like, no problem with it.
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  Like. They like they don't support
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  other gay men. No they don't.
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  They're just like. Yeah, they really put like a
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  like straight men and like straight women on pedestals.
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  Yeah. But it's like I think.
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  It's because, like, most straight men are like, bad as,
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  like, you know, being supportive of the LGBT community.
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  So they're just like, hey, this guy, this guy doesn't think that
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  we should be hung. If we go back through all of his
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  tweets, there are no homophobic slurs.
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  That's the criteria to be a gay. That is.
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  But it's I don't know, I'm sure you guys have probably seen all
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  the hype around them, heated rivalry lately.
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  And like those 2 little twinks are like well one of them is
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  gay, one of them isn't. And so the one who isn't gay is
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  like Joe, everyone's obsessed with him more so than the actual
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  actor who is gay and is doing a huge part for like gay show to
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  talk about gay things and has like a bunch of like, umm, like
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  athletes deciding to come out and stuff now because of this
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  show. And it's like, well, look at the
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  straight one. He's so good at being gay.
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  Like, has it actually caused like an uptake in like, athletes
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  being comfortable enough to like come out?
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  Yeah, there's been, there's been a few, umm, a few hockey players
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  that have come out because of it.
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  Umm. That's cool as shit.
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  Yeah, it's. Really cool and then you're.
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  Like imagined that like hockey would be the one place where
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  they wouldn't have given a fuck if.
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  It's a very homophobic score is. It like I just, I just imagine
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  that all the guys like because like I could see football being
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  like really, you know, homophobic and it's like.
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  Really. Macho.
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  Toxic. Yeah, yeah.
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  Well, like I, I. Like hockey is quite macho too.
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  Yeah, well, I I did, but I always thought like that hockey,
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  hockey players were always kind of like the kind of yeah, we
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  don't give a fuck match. Or maybe I'm just looking at it
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  from a like letter Kenny kind of a vibe where I like, see.
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  I think letter Kenny is like the woke matcher.
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  Yeah, see that's. What I always thought that like
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  that that would be kind of hockey players where they're
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  like, yeah, we don't give a fuck.
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  Like we're all degenerates here, like, so we don't really care.
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  Like it's not as like macho and chess bumpy like.
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  They're into, it's a it's a weird thing.
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  Like sometimes I think hockey players don't know that not all
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  sex has to be group sex. They're very into their group
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  sex fuck from personal experience.
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  Fuck. They're.
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  Calling me a slope. By the way, I've personal
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  experience on getting that train ran on me on ice.
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  No, not, not. That I've done it.
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  It's just, it's called a Zamboni.
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  Just. Danny puts the it's a Dan Boney
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  when she's around. Thank you.
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  Uh, no, no, it's not that I've done it, but it is like all
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  like, Oh yeah, me and my buddy want to run a train on you or
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  yeah, me and my buddy fuck this girl in a hotel room with me and
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  my buddy. No.
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  No, it's just like what that is. That is, me and my buddy want to
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  have sex and you have to be there.
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  That's pretty much it. Yeah, pretty much it.
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  Like me and my buddy want to run a train on you?
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  It's not a train buddy, that's just two carriages.
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  Yeah, that's it. Like that's, that's that's and
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  like and you have, it's that. So that whole fucking Hockey
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  Canada trial where it was like 5 dudes and one girl and it was
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  just like, you're not there for that girl.
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  Like sorry, you're not there for that girl.
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  So what's that? Is that like the that the, the
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  Northern Irish rugby thing? Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, pretty much. Yeah.
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  That is pretty much exactly what happened.
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  And yeah, it's not good. But there's there's like
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  another, what was I going to say?
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  There's like another one coming out now.
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  Heat rivalry but with women. 2 gay female hockey players.
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  Are they just like, OK, and now one for the guys?
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  Legit like like let's just catch it cash in on like gay sports
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  and stuff. But like there is like a lot.
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  I still think more women are going to watch that.
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  Oh. Yeah, it is.
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  It is a great show. It's a really good show.
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  But then like I. Men watching sports doesn't
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  matter. I watch the lesbians.
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  I was watching like, so do you know like the drag queen?
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  Katya, Katya. Yeah, and Trisha?
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  Yeah, Yeah. So she she made a really good
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  point when she was talking about it.
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  And she was like, it's just nice to to watch a show about gay
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  people that isn't like, AIDS and death and people getting
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  murdered and like, it's just a nice love story that, like, just
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  is about the love story. But I just listened to Here
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  Comes the Guillotine as the other day and and they were
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  talking about that as well, where there's only two gay
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  stories in media and it's the coming out and how difficult it
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  is. And the second one is, yeah,
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  I've got AIDS now. Everyone's dying.
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  Like there's only there's really just two gay stories.
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  Grim. Yeah, and it's like it's another
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  kind of thing as well as like they they basically get caught
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  in the act and it's like one of the characters, Hollander, it's
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  like his biggest fear. He's terrified of his parents.
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  Parents are very much like Sir golden boys in the NHL.
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  He's fucking superstar and he's Asian, so they're just like,
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  amazing. And then he was so terrified to
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  come out. Oh.
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  Wait, he's a Asian? He's a Asian, Yeah.
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  And he was like, he was so terrified to come out.
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  And then they go to, you've probably seen the meme
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  everywhere, like, I'm coming to the cottage.
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  So like, they're in the cottage and then I think, I haven't
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  watched that episode yet, but I think he's like blowing him out
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  on the deck and then the parents walk in and like catch the two
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  of them and then he's freaking out.
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  Then the parents are like immediately accepting.
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  They're just like, yeah, we don't care, let's get some
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  fucking brand deals going. Like, do you know what I mean?
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  Like this is. Great capitalism.
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  Yeah, and it's like they, it's everything just runs really
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  smoothly and it's really romantic and sweet and not just
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  like. So, like, it doesn't have to be
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  like those two terrible storylines that are overdone.
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  This can be about two men who, like, are gay and also getting
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  fistfights on ice. Yeah.
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  Yes, yeah. You know who else?
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  Might have gotten a fistfight on ice when he was trying to find
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  America. Nice baby Saint Brandon
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  shoehorned in. There we go.
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  How do we get from heated rivalry?
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  To say I love it, that's great. That's a bunch of.
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  Dudes in the confined space together.
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  Brandon's voyage. I can hear a new horizon.
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  I don't know. It it's good and nice.
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  Doctor Pepper, baby, it's. It's.
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  But every time we do it because I the John Wayne Gacy episodes
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  that we've done last week, I had the theme song for James Bond
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  Junior in my head, which quite a way.
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  How does? That go.
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  James James Bond junior Jason's gone.
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  Around the world. And around the world, but just
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  because. How have I never heard of this?
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  Yeah, so. You've never seen the cartoon
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  James Bond Junior. No Danny for.
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  Fox was in and around. Like you're older.
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  You're both older than me, Johnny.
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  Quest kind of time like that kind of that kind of stuff that
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  is but like you know Johnny. Quest.
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  Well, like that it was around that, but like anyways, I forgot
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  that James Bond Junior was a thing until the words John Wayne
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  Gacy came into my head and it just went John.
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  So it was. Just a.
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  Junior John Wayne James Bond Junior.
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  So then now I'm talking about Saint Brendan and Saint Brendan
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  just went to Saint Elmo in my head.
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  So I've been in my head. It's been Saint Brendan's voyage
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  has been saying Elmo's Fire and all week it's this fucking
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  cyclical ADHD that I mentioned that anyone that I've got ADHD,
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  but no, this, this, these palettes are patterns where I
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  get something in my head and I just will not let go.
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  So it's not even like, yeah, I've got a full song in my head.
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  I've just got. Just like one line.
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  Voyage underneath that perfect guy.
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  Fuck. And I might write that, yeah.
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  You're going to do that to me now?
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  Umm. Yeah, but wait, wait, before we
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  do jump into it, I do just want to, I want to drop this in there
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  because it is on topic. St.
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  Shark is coming back. Oh yeah, darker and more adult
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  to Netflix and I'm so excited. Are they doing like a CG?
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  Like live action. Version.
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  I think so, yeah. It's a CG.
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  I'm so excited. I, I think it's like CG, I think
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  it's like, you know how The Lion King came back with like a
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  fucking live action thing? I I think that the best thing
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  that came from this nostalgia kind of a ruin because they try
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  this all the time and it never really works out with the thing
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  that worked out better than anything else I really believe
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  is X-Men 97 where. Fuck.
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  Yeah. So what they didn't, they didn't
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  update it in a way that was like, well, like they did, eh,
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  make roles to the armrests. Yeah, but they went, they went
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  in with like the same animation style and just carried on.
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  And it was. Cleaned it up.
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  Yeah, but it was fantastic to look at something that.
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  Was great, yeah. It was the thing I watched and
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  now it's the thing I'm watching because and it's.
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  Still is, yes. So they didn't try and update it
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  with like this fucking whole new style or anything like that.
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  They just, like you said, cleaned up the old style.
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  Yeah. But it's I want, I want that
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  back. I want Biker Mice from marriage.
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  Back I. Want.
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  To go to do you? Remember Rd.
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  Rovers. I was talking Rd.
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  Rovers, Rd. Rovers I nobody else can
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  remember this in work. Where they're all the.
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  Fucking the dogs from the the presidents of the world, yes.
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  No one in work. You want to be talking.
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  About I don't know. I don't know that one.
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  Road Rovers. It's no it.
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  Was Rd. Rovers?
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  So there were, so there were. I don't know what.
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  Political. Leaders dogs by day, right?
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  So obviously, like the president of the United States was like a
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  golden retriever. And.
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  English was German President. German was a Doberman like a.
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  Doberman. And.
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  Then they had like like human fucking superhero body suits at
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  night. They fought crime and stuff.
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  Yeah, Google. It right now I want to get your
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  reaction to it. It was so.
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  Great, like you can only go to. Caesars.
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  Road Rovers. Yeah, I was.
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  Around the time when, like, Warner Brothers were swinging
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  for the fences with like, Freakazo.
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  You can fuck like that, God. Right.
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  They have a spaceship. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Oh yeah. Like these I think.
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  It's like crime. Proper advanced there.
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  You know these? Yeah.
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  Did you guys ever see the show reboot?
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  No. So reboot, it's like a, an early
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  concept similar idea to like Ready Player 1 where there's
• 14:05
  like these people who go into a video game and there's, but
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  they're not like humans. They're, they're just, they're
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  like, it's almost like they're NPCS and then they get like
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  loaded into a game and then they have to compete against each
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  other. I used to watch it on like it
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  was on the Sky One. Yeah.
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  After school. We could do a whole episode on
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  just like childhood shows and how weirdly dark they were.
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  But yeah, I, I loved all those shows.
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  And what else did I love? Uh, fucking real monsters.
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  It was great. Real monsters, very good.
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  Nickelodeon, Jesus Christ. Yeah, he held his eyeball.
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  Yeah, I'm a little nerd for that.
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  Kind of. Stuff I love, I love, I love
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  that. Like so much.
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  What else was great? Cat.
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  Dog. So is in the class of the 1995
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  lost cartoons. So they're like if you go to
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  like 1995, everybody just that are trolling stuff just that are
• 15:05
  pigeon for the faint, like fucking that should like just
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  say Wiggin wild pre designed was that so Warner Brothers had like
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  freakazide then like Nickelodeon were bringing out stuff like the
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  likes of our real monsters and stuff like that.
• 15:18
  And like Cartoon Network had like two stupid dogs, which by
• 15:22
  the way, is like someone like. Cartoon, Cartoon Amazing.
• 15:25
  Two stupid dogs has some of the best adults, uh, jokes that you
• 15:29
  will ever find in cartoons, but I don't think you'll, you can't
• 15:32
  find them anymore. But like, like all the stuff
• 15:35
  that like landed, like deck, there's Dexter's Laboratory and
• 15:38
  stuff like that and like the power puff girls.
• 15:41
  Samurai Jack. Yeah, Samurai, Samurai Jack.
• 15:43
  They've done a reboot of Samurai Jack, though.
• 15:45
  Didn't. It I heard I want to get.
• 15:47
  Into that because. Like Jack is like top fucking
• 15:51
  tier, like cartoon. It's fucking incredible.
• 15:55
  Is this a cartoon podcast now? Because like, I don't mind.
• 15:59
  It could be and. It could be, yeah, I really like
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  genuinely, there's someone to go down.
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  Let's let's get into sample. Let's get into Sam Brendan here.
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  Right, because I have, I'll be honest with you, nothing on this
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  this week. I just, it was one of those
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  things that doesn't, it doesn't tickle my brain in the right
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  way. And so I didn't enjoy looking
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  into it. And so I just have very, very
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  basic, basic notes on this. So Brendan, I don't have a
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  second name. Did he have a second name?
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  You just know him as Brendan. His actual name was.
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  Tolbert. Tolbert.
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  I can't remember. Second, my name is.
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  Tobert it was it was the the second.
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  The second name is movie MOBHI. Movie Tobert Movie.
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  And when? He was, he was christened by
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  like a local Bishop. I think it was like Bishop arc
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  or something like that ERC. The arc of something.
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  Yeah, yeah. And he he christened in Brendan.
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  Right. OK.
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  So Brendan was one of the 12 apostles of Ireland and in
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  around 512 to 530 AD he reportedly set sail from the
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  West of Ireland with a squad of monks.
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  Umm, and again, this is usually around 14 to 60, which is a is a
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  really a big jump depending on who you're asking.
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  He he set sail with between. Yeah, I don't think the 60 is.
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  That's ridiculous. Because not in a in a in a,
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  correct? They kind of give the the
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  dimensions of this correct that he he set sail and and yeah, it
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  was like 36 foot long legs. So like you're not getting 60
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  men into that, but it was I think the the the most kind of
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  the consensus says that it's like 14 people, 14 monks and
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  then tree non believers come a lot like tag along.
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  So it's same, same Brendan and like less than 20 people
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  anyways. So like they're about to he's
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  about to set sail from off Galway, I believe.
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  And then like, yeah, like, yeah, freelance, come on and on.
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  And they're like, yeah, bring us as well.
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  So you can prove that this fucking land of science exists.
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  I. Would go.
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  I would go for the crack. I just like the. 6th century.
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  I want to go find the promised land of Saints like which is,
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  which is what they were calling this place, and then sailing
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  into the sea of darkness in a car, which it's just a wood
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  frame covered in oxide soaked in oak bark.
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  So they called the sea of darkness, obviously because it's
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  the fucking Atlantic. There is nothing there.
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  There's no big, you know what I mean?
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  It's just water. Really fucking far.
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  It's not like you're. Just they're gonna.
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  Hit land anytime soon. So Saint Brendan was told about
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  this like promised land of Saints by this guy called
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  Murdoch who had allegedly gone on the journey.
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  Yeah, Yeah. Like a lot of these names are
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  like, you know, pre, eh, Like they're like old Irish.
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  Yeah. Pre pre Christian.
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  Yeah, and you know, Murdoch is like this just like a character
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  who like he did a lot of travelling around and he like
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  was passing on, you know like the the myth is being passed
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  from 1 adventure to the other. Oh, you're done.
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  OK. Yes.
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  That is so into this one isn't? It I want to talk.
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  About powerful girls again. I really would.
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  Love to talk about powerful girls so their dirty lasted 7
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  years and I just I have the the highlights.
• 19:45
  So Jasconius I don't know if you say that the whale.
• 19:50
  They found an island with no grass and decided to cook
• 19:53
  breakfast. As soon as the fire got hot the
• 19:56
  island started moving. Turns out it was a giant whale
• 19:59
  named Jasconius. I don't know if they named that
• 20:02
  whale or the whale was like I'm just going to get off my back.
• 20:06
  They ended up having Easter Mass on his back every year of their
• 20:10
  trip. So when they when they like
• 20:13
  encounter Jasconius, which is very like a very like Roman
• 20:18
  sounding name. Jasconius Yeah.
• 20:20
  They initially like they landed on him, discovered he was a
• 20:23
  whale, and then they kind of went on their way and then they
• 20:27
  their ship got like blown back in a storm and they ended up on
• 20:31
  Jasconius again. And I think that was like the
• 20:32
  first Easter that they did because they kind of got blown
• 20:36
  off course multiple times as they were going on this journey.
• 20:39
  In search. Of the promised land of Saints
• 20:42
  What? We're going to find in this
• 20:43
  story is that, eh, according to sources like this is again, this
• 20:48
  is one of those things, right? So it's a story that was written
• 20:52
  hundreds of years after the fact that it happened, and then it
• 20:56
  was translated, sent all over the world.
• 20:59
  And then these stories all come back and like, it's basically,
• 21:03
  you know, where like, like Asian chocolate, it's Chinese.
• 21:06
  Chinese whispers. So like, it's, I don't know how,
• 21:13
  I don't know how offensive to turn Chinese whispers is.
• 21:17
  No, I've just never heard it. Before so like when you've got
• 21:23
  when, when you've got all these kind of elements coming in and
• 21:26
  like a lot of these stories like this is basically the the eh,
• 21:31
  Irish Odyssey. There's a bunch of these stories
• 21:35
  yeah that are eh eh the imrav is that dead.
• 21:40
  This is the kind of the basically the genre of stories.
• 21:44
  There's a bunch of genres of stories and all Celtic, eh,
• 21:47
  folklore. And yeah, the imrav is, is, is
• 21:51
  this one of basically odysseys? Like guys get into a boat and
• 21:58
  they go onto a trip. So Sam Brendan isn't the first
• 22:02
  person to have this fantastical trip to go around, eh, all these
• 22:07
  islands and kind of find all these kind of new places.
• 22:10
  And you see it, eh, in, like a lot of these stories you, you'll
• 22:17
  hear like there's an equivalence from, eh, ancient Rome, from
• 22:22
  ancient Greece, from eh, Arabian texts, like even the Arabian
• 22:27
  Nights have like came some of the elements that are actually
• 22:29
  in Brendan's voyage as well. What you'll find is these are
• 22:32
  all embellished true early Christianity.
• 22:36
  And like these stories, they get told.
• 22:38
  So like the, the ideas, like Brendan is a real person who
• 22:44
  lived around that time and who was a very, eh, competent, eh,
• 22:50
  sailor and shipwright. Yeah.
• 22:53
  So. He did travel and he's been like
• 22:56
  the he's there's places in the world like in Scott, Scottish
• 23:02
  islands and where he went and set up monasteries and the Faro
• 23:07
  Islands Talk about Brendan being there like as well, like so this
• 23:11
  is all kind of like. Like that scene is like a
• 23:13
  historical fact. It's not just like the
• 23:15
  mythological. Yeah, when what we have then is
• 23:18
  the Christians come along and make it this kind of fantastical
• 23:23
  kind of story, like, you know, like, eh, Saint George is the
• 23:27
  the Brits famous St. he killed a dragon.
• 23:30
  Now there's no such thing as fucking Dragons, but like, let's
• 23:34
  like, so like. Komodo Dragons.
• 23:37
  Again, this George character probably is taken from.
• 23:42
  Danny, don't say. Komodo Dragons and twist my
• 23:44
  because like I just went straight to thinking about
• 23:46
  Komodo Dragons there and I have not got the Komodo I know but I
• 23:50
  don't know I want to talk about Komodo Dragons and how.
• 23:54
  Can't. Do.
• 23:55
  That sorry, sorry. I love Komodo.
• 23:57
  Dragon Saint George. So St.
• 23:59
  Thank you so Saint George, that story so good.
• 24:03
  It's it's so refreshing to have you here Russian, umm, to have
• 24:07
  that, that that story from Saint George would obviously be like
• 24:12
  some Arturian legends or. Some kind of pre?
• 24:16
  Christian legends that eh, we see now get turned into Saint
• 24:21
  George was the one who killed the dragon when it was probably
• 24:23
  someone who like was, you know, 1000 years before fucking Jesus
• 24:28
  was fucking hailed to a cross. And the same way what we've got
• 24:33
  over here, there was eh, in these imravs, these old Irish
• 24:37
  tales, and I even think one of them was like the Voyage of
• 24:41
  Bran, eh? Which is basically Brandon and
• 24:46
  and Brandon are interchangeable there.
• 24:49
  It's like seeing bridges and Brie the goddess.
• 24:54
  A lot of their stories get intertwined as well.
• 24:57
  So like we, yeah, we've got this character Brendan, eh, Sam,
• 25:01
  Brendan who is a monk is a ship, right?
• 25:05
  And then we've got these stories that have been intertwined into
• 25:09
  his actual real story that now make it fantastic.
• 25:13
  So we've got this guy who ends up and we'll, when Danny, you go
• 25:17
  through like these, eh, your, your quick rundown of like bases
• 25:20
  he's landed on. I know like what we, we can
• 25:22
  embed, we can go in and we can chat about each one and what
• 25:25
  they might actually mean and where they might actually come
• 25:27
  from. Or like this.
• 25:28
  Yeah, this. Just to get back onto to trying
• 25:31
  my best to get back into some sentient fucking thought pattern
• 25:33
  here. It's like I, I the.
• 25:35
  Whale though is is like that is actually a little that's that's
• 25:40
  a trope in all stories. Landing on the whale what?
• 25:44
  I was gonna ask. Yeah, it's a.
• 25:45
  Biblical story. As well.
• 25:47
  And and yeah, like. This is Jonah the.
• 25:49
  Way Jonah was like Jonah was in the way he lived inside with
• 25:52
  this massive thing and. And then like, you know, you
• 25:55
  look at, you know, like throughout, like, you know,
• 25:57
  like, you know, you look at Moby Dick and, you know, all these
• 26:00
  legends of these, like, God damn it, that's not all of these
• 26:05
  stories. But like, you know, with the
• 26:07
  like Jonah in the way, like a biblical story, it's like, you
• 26:09
  know, it's an allegory for something.
• 26:11
  Yeah. And then?
• 26:11
  Montessori allegory totalitory. A lot of these like Irish myths
• 26:16
  and legends, as with like, you know, like Roman and Greek
• 26:19
  legends, they're allegories for things.
• 26:21
  There's ways to like in the 6th century, to try to understand
• 26:24
  the world and to make sense of something that makes no sense.
• 26:27
  Yes, yeah. So like we've, we've got this,
• 26:29
  this kind of eh, this is where I think there's a lot of like, eh,
• 26:35
  I hate saying Brendan. Now I listen to this and he is.
• 26:42
  A. Cunt with a capital aunt.
• 26:44
  He's he's, he's like, I don't go.
• 26:48
  He doesn't really have any redeemable qualities when it
• 26:51
  comes to this. Like, so like for instance, like
• 26:54
  let's get back on track with the whale, right?
• 26:57
  He has a bunch of lads now. This say.
• 26:59
  Brandon is a fucking know it all.
• 27:02
  I loved him before I because I was thinking about like when I
• 27:05
  was thinking about like, ah, this fantastic Voyager who went
• 27:09
  and he found fucking newfound land and he went on all these
• 27:12
  adventures and found these kind of islands and you could like,
• 27:15
  what did this mean? Like through the eyes of these
• 27:16
  medieval monks and there were fantastic cities and everything.
• 27:19
  And what did this actually mean? And then, but when you actually
• 27:22
  hear the story, Sam Brendan comes across as this Nordal
• 27:26
  bollocks who really there's very little redeemable qualities as
• 27:33
  like the and the the hero of your story.
• 27:37
  It's like this. This is a hero's tale, but he
• 27:40
  doesn't seem all that like heroic.
• 27:43
  He doesn't do anything her away. He just comes out and like when
• 27:45
  everybody else walks up, he's like I told you so.
• 27:48
  So like when the guys, when you get to the whale, all these guys
• 27:52
  get off the ball and onto this island and Saint Brendan stays
• 27:56
  on the ball. And then in the morning, the
• 27:58
  guys, they wake up and go, Oh, that was a nice sleep.
• 28:01
  Even though this is a fairly barren island, there's nothing
• 28:03
  on it. But eh, let's, let's cook
• 28:05
  breakfast. So they get down this cauldron
• 28:08
  and they light a little fire and they start cooking their
• 28:11
  breakfast and the fire sets off a rumbling on this island that
• 28:16
  they're on. And it turns out it's this big
• 28:18
  fucking what they he called that fish, eh?
• 28:21
  Or it's apparently it's a whale called EH Jaconas.
• 28:25
  Jet Jack Jack off, yes. Jaconas.
• 28:27
  Yeah, just just Jaconas as this whale and Brendan says, all the
• 28:32
  lads see, This is why I'm on the board.
• 28:34
  Lads are like, why didn't you tell us?
• 28:35
  And he goes, what you know, why should I be telling you?
• 28:39
  This is like. That's something that I I love
• 28:41
  to say when I I know I'm right, but I I just want to be a cunt
• 28:45
  about it. That is just I did say that it's
• 28:49
  the most annoying. She didn't tell you.
• 28:52
  Yeah, it was like, well, I did, Brendan.
• 28:53
  'S a very short what I tell you for ah yeah you should so so
• 28:57
  this is it so right what are you asking for Yeah so like so then
• 29:00
  these boys all fucking leg it back and get on to like the the
• 29:04
  islands start setting off and then they all leg it back onto
• 29:07
  the the ship just on time and Brendan's a big smoke bollocks
• 29:10
  sitting on they're going that's why I stayed on the board and
• 29:14
  the lads are like you're. Making me hate them like this is
• 29:17
  sounds like every Irish man I've ever gone out with.
• 29:19
  This is the tip of the Greenland, which we assume he's
• 29:23
  been to iceberg because he only gets more bollocky the further
• 29:28
  we go into this situation. So like when when they're out on
• 29:32
  sea as well. So like just corneas now has
• 29:34
  fucked off right He explains who just going like straight away he
• 29:38
  goes well, that's just corneas. He's a giant fish and.
• 29:41
  Then he's met him before. He's got a name.
• 29:44
  He's like. You're not only just.
• 29:46
  You didn't just have an inkling. He's got a name and Brendan's
• 29:49
  just there Sure didn't die name. But Brendan goes.
• 29:52
  But Brendan goes. Yeah, he's, I know.
• 29:54
  Him junkies, he's. Known for trying to eat his own
• 29:57
  tail, but he can never do it because he's so vast and so big.
• 30:01
  So yeah, he's. Basically, he's the biggest
• 30:03
  whale in the old whale. For some reason is always trying
• 30:06
  to get his tail into his mouth. OK, tail all right, but wink,
• 30:11
  wink tail into his mouth. So he's but he can, but he can
• 30:14
  never reach down there because he's so big like me trying to
• 30:17
  get white. No, not belly in the way, but
• 30:20
  like this is. Never do that on camera again.
• 30:26
  Just just wait until this becomes like an audio visual,
• 30:29
  yeah? Guys throwing away money at
• 30:31
  this. Point but anyways, yeah so then
• 30:35
  like when he fucks off he tells all the lads lads put away your
• 30:40
  oars so they these fucking idiots stop rolling and it's now
• 30:47
  he's his thing is like God is going to bring us to where we
• 30:50
  need to go. Oh, of course so.
• 30:53
  Of course, God is my seat belt. Yeah.
• 30:55
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jesus.
• 30:56
  Take the wheel. Right.
• 30:57
  So put that, Danny. Yeah.
• 30:59
  I just want you to know none of this is real.
• 31:02
  The real Sam. Brendan.
• 31:03
  Yes, it is. The real I'm buying in the real.
• 31:05
  Brendan the navigator, right? This because I'm holding this in
• 31:08
  my heart, right? The real guy who went on a real
• 31:11
  journey. Knew.
• 31:13
  How to fucking sail and didn't just sail around the.
• 31:16
  Circle going the stairs. Saying like Jesus, take the
• 31:19
  wheel and go up into the fucking black Atlantic and.
• 31:23
  Just be like. Carrie Underwood.
• 31:25
  And it was. Like.
• 31:25
  Yeah, I don't know where I'm going, but like.
• 31:27
  Yeah, fucking eat. Pray love in the middle of a
• 31:30
  fucking ocean. It's a fantastic journey either
• 31:32
  way. Yeah, that's that's but so like
• 31:35
  I, I do believe, and again, this is always going to be my gripe
• 31:38
  when we talk about this kind of stuff, is that the Christians
• 31:41
  took it and then wrote their own story over a fucking great Irish
• 31:47
  tale. Like, anyways, where did he go
• 31:50
  next? So.
• 31:56
  The hatred for Brendan is now transferred on to Danny.
• 32:01
  I was not the fucking voyage. Sorry.
• 32:09
  So the next place that they went to was the island of sheep.
• 32:14
  They found an island where the. Sheep.
• 32:16
  The sheep were bigger than cows because no one ever milked them.
• 32:21
  Yeah. This is an allegory for not
• 32:23
  jerking off. Yeah, this.
• 32:24
  Is you have to jerk. Off like this is definitely
• 32:27
  like. And the 14 men, who were tightly
• 32:29
  packed into a Carrick cheek to cheek, hadn't jerked off in
• 32:33
  three weeks. Yeah, they saw these giant.
• 32:35
  Sheep the size of their balls. Yeah.
• 32:36
  And then they were like, he's like, look, this is what happens
• 32:38
  if we don't suck each other off. And they're like, better do it
• 32:41
  size little sheep. But this is what did we say that
• 32:44
  this place was? This would be the.
• 32:46
  Real estate. Like this is pretty much like
• 32:48
  the fair. Yeah, because like they.
• 32:51
  So. They would have set off from
• 32:53
  like a round about like Claire Galway and they would have just
• 32:57
  like went up on the coast of Ireland, which they would have
• 32:59
  been like familiar with. And then as soon as they were
• 33:02
  like heading like, you know, they were just being like blown
• 33:04
  northeasterly. And they would have just went up
• 33:07
  around like Scotland. So it would have been like the
• 33:08
  Hebrides and then up into like Faro Islands.
• 33:12
  Yeah, so he's. So this this kind of case again
• 33:16
  again, we're taken from other other scripts as well where
• 33:22
  there was sheep the size of oxes.
• 33:24
  I believe that is in one of the eh, the old odysseys.
• 33:27
  I can't can't remember again, but yes, that's how they were
• 33:30
  do. You think they were just
• 33:31
  highland cows? No, I, I.
• 33:33
  Because they find a look sheep like.
• 33:35
  No, I think they're sheep. Like if you go, if you go to
• 33:37
  their the Faroe Islands, there's a lot of sheep there.
• 33:39
  Like that's the actual. That's why they don't mind
• 33:43
  telling you here that like, eh, like historians will say, yeah,
• 33:47
  that's, that's that's more than likely the Faroe Islands.
• 33:50
  It's like the idea. Just massive big sheep.
• 33:52
  Well, like again, this is the the kind of.
• 33:56
  It's sort of a heapish. Yeah, like there was.
• 33:59
  Just they're not that big. There's just a lot of.
• 34:01
  Well, they said when they were looking at the island, you
• 34:04
  couldn't see. It was you couldn't see because
• 34:07
  it was a cloud. Like we didn't see the idea
• 34:10
  because it was a cloud. And when they got closer it was
• 34:11
  like, oh, it's not a cloud. This is just a bunch of fucking
• 34:14
  sheep. It looks like New Zealand open
• 34:16
  here, right? So like basically a, well, a
• 34:19
  Welshman's porno, but like, it's a it's.
• 34:23
  Just it's mental if you take a road trip down here.
• 34:25
  Sheep everywhere, just. One day they live on the there.
• 34:28
  Is still like more sheep than people eh on the fair islands?
• 34:33
  Yeah, so, eh, yeah. So the fair islands, like they
• 34:37
  looked in sheep everywhere. And when they went in like the,
• 34:41
  the idea of this massive sheep #1 it could be that they were
• 34:45
  just very woolly sheep. But like this as big as oxen is
• 34:50
  actually like a line that was used in a different Odyssey.
• 34:53
  Like as, as I was saying, like I, I think it was like.
• 34:56
  So they were kind of like cherry picking bits and pieces from
• 34:58
  others. Taking stories from other places
• 35:01
  and being like, there you go, that's the same.
• 35:03
  Thing. As.
• 35:04
  Yes, Danny. I'm going to ask.
• 35:06
  For a sake I don't know, it's not.
• 35:08
  Do it now because there's three of us.
• 35:10
  And so just so we're not like fucking screaming into the mic
• 35:13
  and Alex doesn't have a stroke. And did we have oxen in Ireland
• 35:17
  at the time? Ireland would have been there.
• 35:21
  Ireland. The one thing that Ireland had
• 35:23
  that it's famous for his cows. Yeah.
• 35:27
  Like when it comes to what I mean.
• 35:28
  Aren't oxes different things? Yeah, cows.
• 35:30
  Cows are just there like oxes that are eh.
• 35:33
  Domesticated Ish. Well, technically cows are
• 35:37
  domesticated or. I'm.
• 35:39
  Thinking now I'm thinking of of of Buffalo.
• 35:43
  Ignore me, I'm thinking of Buffalo.
• 35:44
  Yeah, OK of the. Of the bovine kind of order, so
• 35:49
  like. When I grow up, I want to go to
• 35:51
  Bovine University. 6 is. Referenced There we go market
• 35:55
  off the bingo card. No bingo.
• 35:57
  Bingo. We need a new bingo card near
• 35:59
  the ocean here. Yeah, so.
• 36:01
  Ocean probably has his own quirks that we have to pick up
• 36:03
  on yet as well. Yeah, we have to.
• 36:05
  We have to learn. It'll be.
• 36:07
  It'll be. See how many comic book
• 36:09
  references I can get. Machine gets paced off and
• 36:11
  really that'll be. Yeah, Alex made like a bingo
• 36:15
  cards when he first started doing our editing for us.
• 36:19
  Yeah. And then like we we got obsessed
• 36:22
  with them. Like we didn't we like we just
• 36:23
  we learned what our like things were.
• 36:24
  And then anytime we hit one of them, we were like, bingo.
• 36:27
  It was, it was incredible how easily we were just, yeah.
• 36:32
  Quickly you got bingo. We're very predictable.
• 36:35
  Predictable they get so eh you're a breath of fresh air,
• 36:39
  Hiroshim, because you've stopped us from going into these because
• 36:42
  like we do fall like me and Danny have a lot of.
• 36:45
  Listenership has gone up as well.
• 36:48
  The listenership's gone up by like almost double at this
• 36:50
  point. So four people, all of us she's
• 36:53
  family are now fucking brought us up to four people I.
• 36:56
  Haven't told my family I'm doing this.
• 37:00
  I I told my brother and he wants to come on the podcast.
• 37:03
  I'm not doing that anymore. Fight your brother.
• 37:06
  That's what we're going to do right now.
• 37:07
  Fight your brother on the podcast.
• 37:08
  I'll get my brother on. You don't want to be on that
• 37:11
  episode. I'll just let you guys just
• 37:13
  fucking care it. I just want to hear Ocean talk
• 37:15
  to your brother. You.
• 37:16
  Have to be on the episode. It's going to be an episode of
• 37:19
  like Family Trauma from. Danny.
• 37:21
  Want it. I, I want it to happen so bad
• 37:23
  because he's just, you know, he's like one of those like dogs
• 37:26
  where the bark is so loud, but he's such a coward behind the
• 37:30
  bark. Like he and he don't, he can't
• 37:32
  back up anything he says. And it's like Alex, I don't
• 37:36
  leave it in. I don't care, I don't give a
• 37:37
  fuck. But like basically, so he, umm,
• 37:40
  found, he found God. I know I've talked about this a
• 37:42
  few times after he cheated on his wife for seven years, right,
• 37:46
  But this man has, has an addictive personality, right?
• 37:49
  And I said it, I said it to him when he called me when he was
• 37:52
  being on MAGA and I was like, never noticed that.
• 37:54
  Like people who, uh, randomly find God later in life just are
• 37:57
  fucking guys who've done horrible fucking things.
• 38:00
  And he was like, well, yeah, it's all about like forgiveness.
• 38:02
  Whatever. I I don't think it's about
• 38:04
  forgiveness for you though. So what you mean?
• 38:06
  What do you mean? I think you have an addictive
• 38:08
  personality. You just replace cheating on
• 38:10
  your wife with Christianity because it's something else that
• 38:13
  you can make your entire fucking life and personality and focus
• 38:16
  because you hate everything else around you and yourself.
• 38:18
  And you say anything to me and he's like.
• 38:19
  Well, it was lovely talking to you.
• 38:23
  I was like. Ladies and gentlemen, that will
• 38:25
  be that will be one of the themes, you know, upcoming
• 38:29
  series of episodes that will be called What is wrong with.
• 38:32
  That yeah, I can't. Wait to do that.
• 38:34
  Yeah, why would I? Literally be a team in it.
• 38:36
  Fucking call, call me off of all people and he's like all the
• 38:40
  rest of them. Don't talk to me.
• 38:41
  I was like, you call the wokest sibling.
• 38:44
  I'm not even that low. I'm not even that low, but
• 38:47
  whatever. So.
• 38:47
  After the island of sheep. After the island of sheep he
• 38:50
  gets. To.
• 38:51
  With the island of sheep though, what he does what and the way
• 38:54
  like again saying Brendan this thing where he catches a sheep,
• 39:01
  puts a rope around the torns and then the sheep.
• 39:04
  Follows very dead, as if. He knew him.
• 39:08
  An animal is going to follow. You if ever there was a calm
• 39:12
  sheep also like. The Pharaoh Islands are
• 39:14
  inhabited like they're inhabited.
• 39:17
  They are used to people. And it's just like, oh, we found
• 39:20
  this island of strange sheep. I don't know these sheep.
• 39:28
  He's a different sheep. These must be wild, right?
• 39:31
  And then there's just a lot of, like, pharaohies people being
• 39:33
  like, what the fuck? Yeah, he's fucking mix coming up
• 39:37
  here. Well, he does.
• 39:38
  He meets a guy there that is like, these are my sheep and
• 39:40
  like, yeah, so and he has a chat with the guy and then.
• 39:43
  He go with you like. He's these are my sheep.
• 39:45
  What are you doing? With that rope, Yeah.
• 39:48
  Why are you? Are you practicing?
• 39:49
  The Roach. And then this man is just like.
• 39:52
  Can I help you? You're right there that anyway,
• 39:57
  so the the next part they get to is the crystal pillar.
• 40:02
  They saw a massive floating column of bright crystal wrapped
• 40:07
  in a silver net. Krypton.
• 40:09
  Was it Krypton? Bingo.
• 40:12
  But theorists today are basically like, bitch, that's a
• 40:14
  fucking iceberg. It's not like it's just like.
• 40:17
  Theorists say it was an iceberg and it's just like they were in
• 40:20
  the North fucking Atlantic. It was.
• 40:23
  It's an. Iceberg but OK look in defence
• 40:26
  in defence of it being described in such a fantastical way he
• 40:30
  grew up just outside like truly yeah in Kerry and then like
• 40:36
  they. Didn't have like.
• 40:37
  Lived in like Clear and Galway, we did not have anything that is
• 40:43
  more exotic than a bog in our but if during this time.
• 40:47
  You think about this, right? Like even the Vikings hadn't
• 40:51
  hadn't travelled this far West yet.
• 40:53
  Vikings hadn't even gone like as W as as W as Ireland.
• 40:57
  Like so we're the most westerly point of Europe and we're
• 41:03
  probably the guys that went furthest at the time.
• 41:06
  I say we like I didn't fucking go anywhere but like the.
• 41:10
  I It was us. It was us, we can say.
• 41:12
  But when you get so far out and they realize, shit, there's
• 41:15
  nothing out here. So these guys have never gone up
• 41:19
  and out into the Atlantic in the same way.
• 41:23
  So like you talk about going, yeah, in that into Arctic.
• 41:28
  Take a left and you're getting out into like Iceland kind of
• 41:31
  area. So like you're going Arctic now.
• 41:33
  Irish people. Nobody, there's nobody in this
• 41:36
  world right now who would have seen like I, I do kind of, I
• 41:41
  would imagine that no one in the known world right now would have
• 41:45
  ever seen an iceberg. Like the only there's only MM
• 41:47
  Hmm, there's so many places in the.
• 41:49
  World, There's a fair argument for.
• 41:51
  That so there's only so many places in the world where an
• 41:54
  actual iceberg would be a thing. So like people have seen snow.
• 41:57
  People obviously like that's that's obviously happening like
• 42:00
  ice obviously happens. There's like Scandinavia, say
• 42:04
  Siberia, all these places like they're going to be cold, snowy
• 42:08
  places for a lot of year. Like it's not as if people
• 42:11
  hadn't like, don't know that like it gets colder as you go
• 42:15
  north, but no one has gone N yeah.
• 42:18
  And into the ocean. Like you've got a lot of Pacific
• 42:21
  explorers at the time, you know, like fucking eh, guys that have
• 42:25
  been going around. Like there's there the spice
• 42:28
  routes, all that kind of stuff. There were eh, yeah, there was
• 42:31
  guys eh, fucking heading from, you know, the, the Asian
• 42:35
  islands, eh, out the Arabian Peninsula, places like that,
• 42:39
  that those are all being explored, but no one ever went
• 42:42
  West. So when you think about going
• 42:44
  out into the fucking, the unknown and you're out in this
• 42:48
  reason like this is a different ocean like the Pacific Ocean and
• 42:51
  the Atlantic Ocean, as we discussed with the selfie, eh,
• 42:54
  talk like the Atlantic Ocean is a wild, wild best.
• 42:58
  So you can only get so far before you either sink or turn
• 43:01
  back. And these guys are now out there
• 43:03
  in the North Atlantic, like open the Arctic Atlantic and you're
• 43:08
  looking. Roughest point?
• 43:10
  You know, like a small like a small boat.
• 43:14
  Like. It's not a ship.
• 43:15
  Book and fucking eh Ox skin. Animal skin.
• 43:18
  Skin, Yeah. Like it's fucking, it's
• 43:21
  incredible. We'll get into, we'll get into
• 43:23
  the fact we'll. Get into how that.
• 43:25
  Actually work like, but like again, yeah, it's it's fucking
• 43:29
  crazy. So these guys like when you talk
• 43:30
  about we talk about these glistening pillars that they saw
• 43:34
  and they couldn't believe this fine like white that like.
• 43:37
  So if you imagine if you wake up in the morning after a fucking
• 43:40
  being tossed around a fucking ball all night and then after
• 43:44
  they stop tossing each other, they get open, they look out and
• 43:48
  they look out in the open and like, holy shit, there's a
• 43:50
  fucking. There's a lot of crystal, yeah.
• 43:56
  The fun. Glistening off this thing, I've
• 43:58
  never seen anything like it in my life.
• 43:59
  Now we with all this fucking knowledge that we have in our
• 44:02
  heads these days, know that that's an iceberg.
• 44:05
  But if you see that for the very first time, same as is, if
• 44:08
  you're if you're travelling on this little fucking boat and you
• 44:11
  see a fucking fish bigger than your boat come out of the
• 44:15
  fucking ocean, spray water into the fucking air and then go back
• 44:18
  down. You might be able to come out
• 44:20
  with some kind of fantastic story about how I saw fish as
• 44:23
  big as an island. I saw a fucking block of ice.
• 44:27
  That's a massive crystal pillar. So again, they come back and
• 44:31
  because they want people to hear the story, they have to fucking
• 44:34
  kind of dramatize everything and make it a little bit more kind
• 44:37
  of fucking wow. It's in this.
• 44:38
  Yeah. So like, again, he comes back
• 44:41
  and he says, we've seen this fucking pillar.
• 44:43
  It was white. The sun was glistening off.
• 44:45
  It was like crystal. And then automatically, as it
• 44:48
  goes down, like this story got told, got translated into a
• 44:53
  French, Dutch, German. Well, it would have been all
• 44:55
  German and then back again before we got back to English.
• 44:59
  Like, so like all of this is like, again, like, OK, was it a
• 45:04
  crystal pillar or was it like an iceberg ball?
• 45:07
  Again, we're embellishing for stories all the way through
• 45:10
  generation to generation. And his story wasn't told until
• 45:14
  I think the 9th century because again, like, people aren't
• 45:18
  right. I.
• 45:18
  Wouldn't know so this. Guy in like.
• 45:20
  It was like 300 years after his story and his eh journeys but.
• 45:24
  That's when it was, like, written down the first time.
• 45:26
  It was actually like, eh, you would have heard that story
• 45:29
  being told in another land is 800 years after the fact, Like,
• 45:33
  yeah. So yeah.
• 45:34
  You know, yeah, sorry, I keep, I keep fucking going off with
• 45:37
  these mad tangents, but like. No, it's right.
• 45:39
  It's, it's, it's really interesting because I, I wasn't
• 45:42
  interested and now I'm interested because you were
• 45:44
  telling the stories. So the, the next place then was
• 45:46
  the island of Smiths. Uh, they passed an island full
• 45:50
  of demons throwing fiery slag at them.
• 45:54
  I don't know what slag is slag. Is like a molten.
• 45:56
  Rock. Molten rock, molten metal.
• 45:59
  Yeah. OK, umm, so the water started
• 46:02
  boiling and then the modern take on this is that they probably
• 46:06
  saw a volcanic eruption near Iceland because lots of
• 46:10
  volcanoes up there. Again, like coming back to just
• 46:13
  how like, like Ireland is not an exotic place.
• 46:18
  No, you know, we, we don't have volcanoes, we don't have
• 46:22
  hurricanes, we don't have tornadoes.
• 46:25
  We don't have earthquakes. You know, we don't have, we
• 46:30
  don't have anything that is extreme in terms of climate,
• 46:33
  weather or geography. You know, we have lovely
• 46:37
  rolling, smooth, calm hills. We have beautiful scenery.
• 46:41
  We have bogs. The most dangerous animal we
• 46:43
  have is a bull, you know, like there's no, there's no, like,
• 46:48
  you know, well, no, a bull is the most dangerous animal in
• 46:50
  Ireland. They would have.
• 46:53
  There would have still been wolves in Ireland.
• 46:55
  So the last wolf in Ireland was like.
• 46:57
  Oh, OK. We have that pairs, but I don't
• 46:59
  know if bears are still around in the the 6th century.
• 47:02
  Umm no, all the wolfhounds got those, but you want to know as
• 47:05
  well? Another another fun of fun fact.
• 47:06
  Even just from the fucking 90s growing up in Ireland, I thought
• 47:10
  we this is really embarrassing now.
• 47:13
  Umm, as someone who who loves hiking and nature and stuff like
• 47:16
  that now, I thought in Ireland we had one waterfall and it was,
• 47:20
  it was Paris court. I thought we had one waterfall
• 47:23
  and that's how that works. Such a dub.
• 47:25
  I know I'm from Wexford. Last thing I, we didn't have a
• 47:28
  car growing up so I never got to go anywhere to see waterfalls or
• 47:31
  anything like that. And then so I only ever thought
• 47:33
  like I only ever went to 1 waterfall as a kid.
• 47:35
  And that was when I was like visiting my brother when he was
• 47:38
  living in Dublin. And then he'd like would drive
• 47:40
  it like drive me out to Paris court, whatever.
• 47:42
  We'd, we'd go do cool things. We'd see Glenda Lock and stuff.
• 47:46
  I only ever thought that we had one waterfall.
• 47:47
  And it's like, well, that's just not how land and rivers work.
• 47:50
  Yeah, like fucking waterfalls everywhere.
• 47:53
  So. And you just don't.
• 47:54
  Name me another Irish waterfall. I could not, but I know there
• 47:57
  are little. Ones in county leash we have
• 48:00
  Glenbarre. Oh, sorry, that's not a
• 48:02
  waterfall, that's a fucking weird fucking.
• 48:04
  Leash. It's only it's only like 12.
• 48:07
  Feet tall, but like, barely, Yeah.
• 48:10
  God damn. Waterfall to go from from.
• 48:13
  That right to, to live in, in Wales, which is like fucking
• 48:17
  beautiful, beautiful country. Umm and like we're not too far
• 48:20
  away from Brecon, which is just all waterfalls, all fucking
• 48:23
  waterfalls and mountains. Gorgeous, gorgeous place to go
• 48:27
  from from that to like. Yeah, but the, but in fairness,
• 48:30
  like when you think about Ocean's right though, when we're
• 48:32
  talking about Ireland, like it's there's no real extreme of
• 48:35
  anything. Basically it was this, yes.
• 48:37
  Lovely. Exactly green.
• 48:38
  Patch of land that was umm, safe Probably.
• 48:41
  At the time, it was probably more forested than farmland
• 48:45
  would have been. Yeah.
• 48:46
  So like, it was still mad green. And like, it was like, what
• 48:49
  there was, it was exactly what Ocean said.
• 48:51
  Say if not like Wales, which is basically a fucking slate mine,
• 48:56
  basically just a fucking valley full of slates, and nobody could
• 48:58
  go there. And you're like.
• 48:59
  Oh, but there's loads of lovely. There's loads of lovely.
• 49:02
  Scenery in Wales. That's because it's not worth
• 49:05
  industrializing because you can't.
• 49:06
  There's like. That and that's another, that's
• 49:08
  another really cool point about Wales.
• 49:10
  But yeah, you know what? Fuck Wales cooks of England when
• 49:16
  it came to fucking. Do you know I'm here 8 years
• 49:19
  next month? And that makes me officially
• 49:20
  Welsh apparently, because I'm here 8 years.
• 49:24
  Yeah, but I'm that. So there's parts of like Open in
• 49:27
  the Mountains and Brecon and stuff that are basically
• 49:30
  untouched by human hands because you can't get to them because
• 49:34
  they're just. I love that though.
• 49:36
  I love that about Wales. I love that there's like there
• 49:39
  and you can go fucking like, and this is the thing, like I'm in
• 49:41
  Cardiff, right? A 20 minute drive.
• 49:42
  You can go to fucking like amazing woods, waterfalls,
• 49:46
  fucking gorge, gorgeous places. Ireland.
• 49:49
  I love Ireland but it's just feels for the monks.
• 49:52
  Part Yes, you remember. The episode of Bear Grylls where
• 49:55
  he got dropped off on the coast of Ireland, like, you know, he
• 49:58
  had a show where like each episode was like, I get dropped
• 50:01
  into this dangerous place in the world and I and I find it and I
• 50:05
  find a place to survive. And so he gets dropped off off
• 50:08
  the West Coast of Ireland like it does is like helicopter drop.
• 50:12
  And he makes his way onto the coast and he's walking along.
• 50:14
  And then eventually he gets into a bog and he jumps into a bog
• 50:17
  hole. And it's like, this is how you
• 50:18
  get out of a bog hole. The thing about Ireland is for
• 50:21
  our international listeners is that if you get lost in Ireland,
• 50:25
  if you walk in a. Direction 20 miles for. 10
• 50:29
  minutes, yeah, you will find. A guy who will just be like,
• 50:33
  y'all right there you, you look a bit.
• 50:36
  Lost. Yeah.
• 50:36
  Ha. Ha ha ha.
• 50:38
  Like you'll just. Find someone everywhere.
• 50:41
  Yeah, there's no wilderness in Ireland.
• 50:43
  Fucking. Tiny.
• 50:44
  There's a legitimate statistic that I don't, I think in Ireland
• 50:48
  you're never any further than 40 kilometers away from a road.
• 50:51
  So like it's you're not, Yeah. Are you you're?
• 50:54
  Not going to get off. You're not in the fucking
• 50:55
  Appalachian Mountains. You're not in the wilderness in
• 50:57
  Romania, which is one of the only countries in the world that
• 51:00
  still has wilderness. Like, proper untracked,
• 51:03
  uncharted wilderness. Ireland does not like that.
• 51:06
  Like, yeah, you might go. You might get a bit lost.
• 51:08
  I think there's. Someone will find you if you
• 51:10
  don't find that 2. Spots in Ireland, that is kind
• 51:13
  of what you would consider still wild and that's probably
• 51:18
  Northern Ireland. Well, Northern Ireland is one of
• 51:20
  them. But eh, that's the people.
• 51:22
  But I would say. Godless, godless up there.
• 51:25
  I'd say like Wicklow. Oh yeah.
• 51:28
  There's in the in the Wicklow Mountains.
• 51:29
  You've got like now again. You'll find Larry Murphy,
• 51:32
  though. 100% you'll find his stash somewhere.
• 51:36
  But eh, it's. Always around there.
• 51:38
  You've got Wicklow, which is like the only place in the East
• 51:42
  you'll find even close to finding to, to somewhere that is
• 51:45
  kind of wild and like that's people will go camping because
• 51:49
  it's, it's still very mild. Like it's like it's not a
• 51:52
  massive hike. Go to the Wicklow Mountains.
• 51:53
  Like, yeah, I like I used to do it as a child.
• 51:56
  Simply flash yeah, it's like my like again, it's my brother did
• 52:01
  this whole like anytime he comes back from America does a whole
• 52:04
  my country so beautiful when they go and it's like fucking
• 52:07
  does the what's what's the mountain up that way that
• 52:10
  everyone fucking does. That's really easy to do.
• 52:12
  Is it Mount Leinster? He does, I don't know, one of
• 52:14
  them fucking that's basically you barely break his back going
• 52:18
  on but and he he like he posts. He was just like, oh, like
• 52:21
  fucking like stunning whatever, and he was like dying now out of
• 52:24
  breath and I just could you live in fucking New York City.
• 52:26
  There's no such thing as a hill in New York City like fucking
• 52:29
  Maple. Leinster is a gentle slope.
• 52:31
  The other place is Kerry. I was going to say that the the
• 52:34
  wildness of Kerry like. The the country of Kerry, like
• 52:38
  the countryside, is just. Yeah, yeah.
• 52:41
  Yeah, like the the West is still very, very wild, like, you know,
• 52:45
  fucking dead. But like if you look across it,
• 52:47
  yeah, it's it's this barren landscape that has just fields
• 52:50
  with rocks in it. Like what?
• 52:51
  Like Kerry. Yeah, Kerry has like that proper
• 52:55
  dense wooded area fields. We still it's amazing.
• 52:59
  That's a Kerry that look like New Zealand.
• 53:01
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 53:03
  What's doing this? We still have that Redwood or
• 53:05
  that red deer population that that's like the only place that
• 53:08
  hasn't been like fucking mixed with the Sikh of the year that
• 53:13
  the fucking landed Gentry brought over.
• 53:14
  So we have our own like, so Kerry is kind of proper bricks,
• 53:20
  the last proper wild bases carry out.
• 53:23
  I say this to everybody who's looking like I obviously being
• 53:26
  over here, I'll get an Uber and like, Oh yeah, I'm going to go
• 53:28
  to Ireland and I go see Dublin. I was like, don't go to fucking
• 53:30
  Dublin. Dublin is the same as any other
• 53:32
  European. State do that.
• 53:33
  We all say that to everyone. It's just like do not go to
• 53:35
  don't. Do it, I said.
• 53:36
  Go away to go to Kerry, go to the Wild Atlantic way.
• 53:39
  Just go along that way. Like just see the actual.
• 53:41
  Fucking country. Like, do Dublin for a day and
• 53:43
  realize that we're not all fucking wild.
• 53:46
  Yeah, the Guinness Brewery. That's it, I say.
• 53:48
  The Guinness Brewery is genuinely good.
• 53:51
  I like the Guinness Brewer. Yeah, that's all.
• 53:52
  You need to do a good tour. It is.
• 53:54
  That in a jail that's. Kill me in a jail, Yeah.
• 53:58
  Beer in prison. This is all you're going to
• 54:00
  find. Someone.
• 54:02
  Yeah, go and find cool shit. Yeah, like legit sex, criminal
• 54:06
  boats, whatever, like. Just with like what I was saying
• 54:09
  about like how Ireland is like you're just this like lovely
• 54:13
  rolling hills and safe place, you know, like we don't know
• 54:17
  what weird looks like. We don't know what like the
• 54:19
  interesting looks like in in a way.
• 54:22
  So Can you imagine you go to a place and it's just like a
• 54:25
  fucking volcano, Like, you know, the first like Irish eyes to to
• 54:29
  see a volcano and you are a Christian.
• 54:32
  So you're just going to be like, Oh my God, this is hell.
• 54:34
  Like, like, look, it's the fiery.
• 54:35
  Fire that I. Didn't play.
• 54:37
  Coming out of the earth and you know, like maybe there was like
• 54:41
  a volcano like exploding. So like, you know, you have all
• 54:43
  the rocks being fired at them and they're just like that must
• 54:46
  be demons throwing like they're throwing it at us.
• 54:48
  This is our test. This is this is like, you know,
• 54:50
  one of our trials of how we get through this journey.
• 54:53
  And because like I've been to Iceland and like it is it is
• 54:57
  absolutely gorgeous and like it is like you have the whole thing
• 55:02
  is volcanic. It's like Hawaii, like they're
• 55:03
  just the whole thing is volcanic.
• 55:05
  And you know, if they were there during a volcanic eruption and
• 55:09
  like the coastline is like black sand beaches, like basalt rock
• 55:13
  formations, like it is just so craggy and unwelcoming that it
• 55:17
  just it would have been, it would have been mind blowing to
• 55:21
  like see a volcano for the first time having no context at all.
• 55:26
  For us. We don't even have Hot Springs.
• 55:28
  Yes, exactly, Exactly. Because we like, that's a
• 55:32
  volcanic archipelago and ours that like where we come from,
• 55:36
  it's just we're just off the actual continental land, the
• 55:40
  edge. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like.
• 55:41
  Yeah, we don't really have anything, do we at all?
• 55:44
  And you've still got me and. We have a Justine.
• 55:53
  And. He'd go 5 miles down that way,
• 55:55
  10 that way, and he's there waiting for the end of the room.
• 55:58
  I'll be the one sitting on the wall.
• 56:00
  I killed a man. I shot Jr. you.
• 56:03
  Believe me on dog did that to me.
• 56:05
  You know what's fully I? I.
• 56:07
  You. Guys won't know, but I'm going
• 56:08
  to send you a picture of my brother who is basically Tom
• 56:11
  from fathered head. Like he looks like Patchard.
• 56:13
  Oh my. God, Oh my God.
• 56:16
  The same human being we bought my JRT shirt just because he
• 56:20
  looks so much like Patchard. My brother's name is Tom and he
• 56:24
  acts like him as well. Do you remember, umm, he was a
• 56:27
  drunk in the pub and he was like talking with the Brits.
• 56:29
  He's like, took him out, put him up in front of him to the middle
• 56:33
  of a field, got him up against the.
• 56:35
  Wall. Yeah, yeah.
• 56:36
  And then touched one. Shot Bang Bang, Bang Bang.
• 56:44
  So, Danny, would you say that Brendan actually made it to
• 56:49
  North? America, yeah, I would umm, and
• 56:54
  they made it to and I will. I'll just jump in here 1st and
• 56:57
  say umm, it's not Newfoundland. Look at so much shit for saying
• 57:02
  that. It's Newfoundland.
• 57:04
  That's how they say it. Newfoundland.
• 57:06
  You have to call it Newfoundland.
• 57:07
  But if you're Irish, you're just going to be like Newfoundland.
• 57:10
  Whatever we want because we found that land.
• 57:12
  That's a new wave, so you can call whatever you're whatever if
• 57:16
  you're from. Newfoundland.
• 57:18
  You can fucking say Newfoundland all you want, but.
• 57:21
  We will say. Newfoundland.
• 57:22
  Because we fucking found it. Brendan found it.
• 57:25
  It's our land. We could call it what we want.
• 57:26
  So eh, new fees umm. They sound very very Irish if
• 57:32
  you watch the. Show Yeah, from Waterford.
• 57:34
  Yes, if you if you watch like eh, like letter Kenny, umm.
• 57:39
  And they all sound very, very Irish.
• 57:41
  I'm just like well by. Yeah.
• 57:42
  That's it's basically because apparently we founded it and
• 57:46
  then we stayed there and then that we stopped there.
• 57:48
  Where the fuck very small insular enclave of Inbury?
• 57:52
  Yeah, yeah. And that, that's pretty much it.
• 57:55
  So like, I literally there is, umm, let's take it back to my
• 57:59
  sex life like we do every episode.
• 58:01
  But I was hooking up with a hockey player from Newfoundland
• 58:03
  before UMM, and he just sounded more Irish than I do.
• 58:09
  He was from like a very tiny little town in Newfoundland and
• 58:11
  like, to the point where he would call my cat, bye, bye,
• 58:13
  bye. And I was just like, what's the
• 58:15
  crack? Yeah, legit.
• 58:16
  Like, like where? Bye.
• 58:18
  I'm just like. But he used to also call your
• 58:20
  cat like, you know, racist slurs, so not that.
• 58:25
  I didn't hear any of that, but umm, I didn't really talk to him
• 58:29
  that much before 3:00 AM so I wasn't paying attention.
• 58:33
  But yeah, umm, very, very Irish sound and dude, like extremely
• 58:37
  Irish sound. And, and then like there, there
• 58:38
  was a point then when I had gone like a few, a few dates with
• 58:42
  like Canadian people and they'd be like, you're from, like, you
• 58:45
  sound like you're from Newfoundland.
• 58:46
  And I was like, I'm just Irish. You got.
• 58:48
  That from all. Newfoundland.
• 58:49
  I get that. From you slash Wexford kind of
• 58:52
  an accent. Yeah, it's.
• 58:54
  Very, very, very. Yeah.
• 58:56
  Very, very much so. And then like because I I would
• 58:58
  get it all. I still get it like are you
• 59:00
  sound Canadian? I'm like I no.
• 59:02
  This is just how do we get like, how do we get the new phone then
• 59:04
  so fast? There's a million fucking
• 59:06
  places. He went there before he got the
• 59:08
  new I. Think Danny was just like
• 59:09
  condensing a lot of these stories.
• 59:11
  Yeah, I I mushed it in a little bit.
• 59:13
  Because I've got some fucking stories to tell you then.
• 59:16
  I know. But just let me get to .1 and
• 59:18
  then you can you can bring it back with the The first point
• 59:20
  that I have here is did Brendan actually make it to North
• 59:22
  America 900 years before Columbus?
• 59:25
  So .1 is the pre Columbian contact.
• 59:31
  So many believe that the promised land of the Saints was
• 59:34
  actually Newfoundland or New England.
• 59:37
  The descriptions of fog, shrouded lands and rivers of
• 59:40
  gold match up surprisingly well with the North American.
• 59:45
  Coast Anyone who thinks that Newfoundland and New England is
• 59:49
  the promised land of Saints is fucking insane.
• 59:52
  Well, well. I'm just, I'm just putting it
• 59:57
  out there it. Is gorgeous countryside though.
• 59:59
  I will. Say it's like this really
• 1:00:00
  inhospitable place to live. And I say that in like barren.
• 1:00:05
  No, but I say it in like a like, it's a challenging place.
• 1:00:07
  It's it's where like, you know, people live there and they are
• 1:00:11
  tougher and harder for us. Oh yeah.
• 1:00:13
  And yeah. And it is just like it's so
• 1:00:15
  Irish that we would go there and be like, God, it's fucking hard
• 1:00:20
  to live here. Better stay.
• 1:00:22
  So this guy that I, I was, I was just telling you about, his
• 1:00:25
  surname was actually O'Brien, which is of course is, is really
• 1:00:28
  funny. Yeah, huge Irish population out
• 1:00:30
  there. Anyway, that's because we just,
• 1:00:32
  we just went there and just never left.
• 1:00:35
  And yeah, it's, it's a huge, I think it was from like a tiny
• 1:00:40
  little town, but they all do. It's like Newfoundland is huge,
• 1:00:43
  but it has a lot of small. Concentrated populations.
• 1:00:46
  It's because most, most of it is like practically uninhabitable.
• 1:00:50
  Like it's, it's a hard place to live that like is a challenge.
• 1:00:54
  And the people like the, you know, the people that are
• 1:00:56
  fucking tough because life is hard.
• 1:00:59
  Yeah, and you have to be. And it's like literally like he
• 1:01:01
  was again, this guy is one of the biggest fucking like
• 1:01:04
  scrappers in hockey was just like literally just because you
• 1:01:09
  just do. They're like because you have to
• 1:01:11
  be. Here's another Ocean Bingo card
• 1:01:14
  1. So there is a musical that is
• 1:01:17
  based in Newfoundland. Always forget your.
• 1:01:20
  Like Ocean's love of musical theatre, it's called Come Come
• 1:01:24
  From Away. And it's a It's a musical.
• 1:01:27
  They heard about 911. Yeah, it's, it's, it's about
• 1:01:31
  the, the like 911. So when, when the planes hit the
• 1:01:34
  tower or, you know, all across America, planes were grounded
• 1:01:38
  and rerouted. And there was a town in
• 1:01:40
  Newfoundland that has like, you know, population like 300 people
• 1:01:44
  and they have an airstrip or at least like an airport.
• 1:01:49
  So I think we talked. So the population.
• 1:01:51
  Is like 300 people and they ended up with about 3000 people
• 1:01:55
  and the people of the town, they took everyone in, they took care
• 1:01:59
  of them. It doesn't, it didn't matter
• 1:02:00
  where they were from, what nationality, you know, like what
• 1:02:02
  the situation was. Everyone there was just like,
• 1:02:05
  no, these people need help. We are giving them help.
• 1:02:08
  And the musical is like, it's fantastic and it is full of like
• 1:02:12
  the ropiest Irish accents you've ever heard.
• 1:02:16
  Like just because like they're trying to do such a specific
• 1:02:20
  regional Irish accent. And some of them are like like
• 1:02:23
  when, when I saw it in London, like some of them were like bang
• 1:02:25
  on. And then other ones were just
• 1:02:27
  like. Yeah, you're in.
• 1:02:29
  The wrong province with that accent.
• 1:02:31
  I think that's so funny to me that you love musicals.
• 1:02:34
  It's like AI would never love musicals, man, a musical person.
• 1:02:37
  But my ex who did this, we, we talk very fondly of of, of Matt,
• 1:02:42
  my my only good ex on this podcast, but he's a huge, huge
• 1:02:46
  musical fan. And there's hell yeah, brother.
• 1:02:49
  So many musical numbers that I know word for word just just
• 1:02:53
  because he was playing them all the time so I could like sing
• 1:02:56
  you like word for word like a fucking song from like Jekyll
• 1:03:00
  and Hyde or whatever the fuck, not knowing how I know it.
• 1:03:04
  But then in reality, I'm just a typical white girl that's like,
• 1:03:08
  I love musicals and it's it's Hamilton like, which is a banger
• 1:03:13
  of a fucking musical. I'm so frustrated right now.
• 1:03:16
  Why? Do you like?
• 1:03:18
  Musicals. No, I I do.
• 1:03:19
  I like musicals and stuff like that, but like every time we get
• 1:03:22
  to a point about fucking Newfoundland or whatever you are
• 1:03:25
  talking about. I don't know what because you've
• 1:03:28
  there's so much to talk about, but what we're on your notes
• 1:03:33
  where? Are all I have.
• 1:03:34
  Right, right. We did.
• 1:03:36
  Right. So I we, they passed.
• 1:03:38
  The the. Volcanoes in Iceland, yes,
• 1:03:40
  right. And then Justy, justy, look at
• 1:03:45
  me. It's going to be OK, I know.
• 1:03:50
  But like you talk in a second, right, I'm going to get to where
• 1:03:52
  I got to so. He's at the side corner.
• 1:03:57
  Yes. The next point that I got to
• 1:03:59
  after this was did Brendan actually make it to North
• 1:04:01
  America 900 years before Columbus?
• 1:04:03
  So go did he. You've already kind of said
• 1:04:07
  stuff, and then I'm afraid to say the word Newfoundland
• 1:04:09
  instead, just in case you start talking about some fucking
• 1:04:12
  larger writing, you fucking musical tear and all that stuff.
• 1:04:15
  Oh my. God it.
• 1:04:17
  I was speaking about the personality of the people and
• 1:04:20
  being very Irish. But fine, go ahead, talk about
• 1:04:22
  Newfoundland. I don't want that one.
• 1:04:23
  I want to go back. Oh my.
• 1:04:26
  God. What do you want to talk about
• 1:04:28
  that? Much of like, again, there's two
• 1:04:32
  ways to look at this story and it's that did Brendan the man,
• 1:04:39
  the monk, did he get out, travel up along the Irish coast into
• 1:04:44
  the Hebrides, into the Faroe Islands, across to Iceland, onto
• 1:04:50
  Greenland, into Newfoundland and then from there go down into the
• 1:04:56
  North American continent. That is the practical side of
• 1:05:00
  the like how you would travel that way safely and how you
• 1:05:04
  would do it, yes. Like open open around.
• 1:05:06
  Yeah, you're essentially island. I'm not because like we don't
• 1:05:09
  want to, but yeah, exactly or island happen.
• 1:05:11
  So you're not you're not going like with a eh like the way and
• 1:05:16
  the Nina the Pinter Nina the Pinter Santa Maria.
• 1:05:21
  The winter, the Santa Maria they.
• 1:05:22
  Were gonna like go straight across the Atlantic.
• 1:05:24
  Yeah. So like they're they're coming
• 1:05:26
  out from folk and Portugal or wherever they went from and they
• 1:05:29
  headed straight. Across.
• 1:05:30
  Because they had big ass ships with big ass sails.
• 1:05:34
  It was 900 years of advancement after that, the Christian idea
• 1:05:39
  of this story, which may which trolls it into like, like, oh,
• 1:05:45
  it did. This didn't happen.
• 1:05:47
  This was just a fancy tale. So this is this is my gripe with
• 1:05:50
  it as well. So like when we talk about that,
• 1:05:52
  like we haven't even got into half of the kind of stories that
• 1:05:55
  the Christians come with. Like whether there's any kind of
• 1:05:58
  moral tale. Like there is sort of moral
• 1:06:00
  tales where we've been talking about Brendan being a fucking
• 1:06:02
  asshole in these Christian tales.
• 1:06:05
  But I think that Brendan was probably some sound fella who
• 1:06:08
  was pretty good at fucking travelling around and probably
• 1:06:11
  was just preaching the world that this new Christian kind of
• 1:06:14
  word to the islands as he got there.
• 1:06:17
  When you talk about when we talk about the Christian, like the,
• 1:06:20
  the stories of after the, the Isle of sheep that he they were
• 1:06:26
  at, they landed on on this island where the guys were all
• 1:06:29
  fucking starving because they've been fucking Brendan told them
• 1:06:32
  not to roar and that God will bring them around.
• 1:06:35
  And they got onto this island where they, eh, fucking found a
• 1:06:41
  dog and yeah, the dog LED them up to a mansion.
• 1:06:47
  And when they got into the. Mansion into this like little
• 1:06:49
  village, right? Yeah, that was it.
• 1:06:51
  Like, and there was a, there was a big house with like, and
• 1:06:55
  again, like this is the like nobody is here in these places
• 1:07:00
  to build mansions If they, if they're, if they're landing on
• 1:07:03
  places where like there's already people like indigenous
• 1:07:06
  people, maybe like there's guys with fucking, you know, line
• 1:07:10
  clothes and fucking or whatever, or they're not going to be.
• 1:07:13
  Like. Oh, not line clothes, I should
• 1:07:15
  say. Probably seal skins if they're
• 1:07:16
  going to be up, like in cold places.
• 1:07:18
  Yeah. So like, this is ridiculous.
• 1:07:20
  Like these stories, these didn't happen, right?
• 1:07:22
  Like this dog leads them off and apparently talks to the fucking
• 1:07:26
  dog. Dog leads them up there in this
• 1:07:27
  place and there's a lot of food and they just eat all the food
• 1:07:32
  and then they fall asleep. There's like a banquet in one of
• 1:07:35
  the, like, the whole of the house, yeah.
• 1:07:37
  Yes, exactly. But he's all OK and fall asleep
• 1:07:40
  in the wake up in the morning and then breakfast is there and
• 1:07:43
  Brendan is a little bit suspicious and he says lads Joe.
• 1:07:46
  Suspicious. No.
• 1:07:47
  Yeah. Stop it, stop eating all the
• 1:07:49
  stop eating all the growth. Something's going on here, like
• 1:07:51
  you know, and then they're fucking eh, or the is this the
• 1:07:55
  same place? Right.
• 1:07:57
  So there's there's this place where he goes in and this state
• 1:08:00
  spend the night some someplace and eh, Brendan wakes up in the
• 1:08:05
  middle of the night and he looks over and sees this little black
• 1:08:08
  boy. Now, just for anybody out there
• 1:08:11
  who's listening to this eh story and it's like, that's racist.
• 1:08:16
  We don't call in in, in old Ireland.
• 1:08:19
  We didn't call black people black people.
• 1:08:21
  We call demons black people, eh, black people we call yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:25
  Fire golem, which is blue people fire just which is weird as
• 1:08:29
  well. But like we we didn't like all
• 1:08:31
  black people. Black people like we call we.
• 1:08:33
  Yeah, it was referring to like the black of their.
• 1:08:35
  Spirit so and yeah, which is what we call it like black
• 1:08:41
  people are demons and like on fire Dove is the devil.
• 1:08:44
  That's what we would call because he's the black man.
• 1:08:47
  Like it's it's kind of more figurative than anything else.
• 1:08:50
  So when I was when I was listening to these.
• 1:08:53
  I don't like hearing you say that.
• 1:08:55
  I don't like hearing you say the word.
• 1:08:57
  When I was oh great. She doesn't either.
• 1:09:01
  And. Racist dog.
• 1:09:04
  She's a Bichon Freeze, which makes a lot of.
• 1:09:06
  Sense to. That.
• 1:09:07
  Reaction so so when when I was listening to a lot of this stuff
• 1:09:12
  like the Americans are so because they were like, Oh my
• 1:09:16
  God, the way they talked about this black boy, the way this was
• 1:09:20
  terrible. I was like I was in my head.
• 1:09:23
  I was screaming at them being like, that's not what it is.
• 1:09:26
  It's not, it's not a racial. Thing so.
• 1:09:28
  Basically he saw this little eh, like demonic child, Yeah was
• 1:09:34
  more and was making a bridle for a horse with this silver bit in
• 1:09:40
  it and Oh yeah. Like that's a nervous.
• 1:09:42
  Oh, yeah, hold on. Wait, wait.
• 1:09:44
  We but we, we eh, the, the thing about these eh.
• 1:09:48
  So when he was bringing all his monks and then these three non
• 1:09:50
  believers came running down, eh, just before they're about to set
• 1:09:53
  sail and they were like, we want to go so that you can convince
• 1:09:56
  us, right? And then Brendan was like, all
• 1:09:59
  right, but he knew that some shit was going to befall these
• 1:10:03
  eh, these guys, right? So yeah, when he got to the
• 1:10:08
  island and he saw all this stuff, he goes, lads, we're not
• 1:10:11
  going to steal anything, are we? So like right now, of course,
• 1:10:14
  we're not going to steal anything.
• 1:10:15
  And then when they were coming off, when we're they were
• 1:10:18
  heading back to the ship, fucking Brendan turned around
• 1:10:22
  again. Know what all Brendan the
• 1:10:23
  asshole that is from this fucking like I'm sure that the
• 1:10:26
  Christians were like, he'll sound so smart and he'll be such
• 1:10:31
  a a virtuous guy, but really he just sounds like an asshole and
• 1:10:34
  all these stories because he turns around and he goes, I saw
• 1:10:37
  you stealing the the the bridal bit and I know that was being
• 1:10:44
  made by a little demon. And your man breaks down.
• 1:10:47
  He goes on to his knee, goes on to his knees and he breaks down
• 1:10:50
  and he's like he trolls away the the best he goes.
• 1:10:53
  It was given to me, eh, by this, eh little boy or whatever.
• 1:10:57
  And then, eh, this little black light jumps out your man's
• 1:11:02
  breast pocket and start cursing at Brendan and being like, oh,
• 1:11:07
  why, why? I've I've was ready to live here
• 1:11:11
  for seven years. You know, it's always seven
• 1:11:13
  years or else 40 years. There's that #7.
• 1:11:15
  Again, it's the the numbers are three, 7 and 40 for some reason
• 1:11:20
  in this story. That's why there's 40 days, 40
• 1:11:24
  years, seven days, seven years, three days, three years.
• 1:11:26
  They are like those numbers are always the ones that crop up and
• 1:11:30
  he has this demon was like, I've been here for fucking whatever
• 1:11:32
  like and I was going to go back, which he and I thought, I think
• 1:11:35
  he his idea was he was going to escape the island.
• 1:11:38
  So I don't know what the lesson is here.
• 1:11:40
  Don't steal anything or don't be black.
• 1:11:42
  I don't know what the what the lesson is, but it's weird so.
• 1:11:47
  Enchanted. So you seen that it?
• 1:11:48
  Was like a they had stolen something that like this this
• 1:11:51
  mythical character had made and if they if they took it with
• 1:11:56
  them, then this. It's a test of.
• 1:11:59
  Like this little demon. Would have gone with them.
• 1:12:01
  So like, you know, they were, they were throwing it back.
• 1:12:04
  There was a, there was another island that they went to and it
• 1:12:07
  was full of that. There was a monastery on it and
• 1:12:10
  there was like 12, there was 12 monks on it and they were all
• 1:12:14
  silent. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:15
  And the Brendan and his crew like went on to the, they went
• 1:12:20
  on to the island, they went to the monastery and the, the monks
• 1:12:24
  there, they never, they never cooked.
• 1:12:26
  They never had like flame or anything like that.
• 1:12:28
  But bread was like miraculously provided to them.
• 1:12:32
  And they, they also had like, you know, like a very long life.
• 1:12:36
  Like they didn't eat or drink apart from this miraculous
• 1:12:38
  bread. And they claimed that they had
• 1:12:41
  been on the island for 80 years because there was 1 monk that
• 1:12:44
  did talk to. The rest of them were silent.
• 1:12:47
  And and Brendan, Brendan like a fucking moron as well.
• 1:12:51
  So he comes in to be like, he's like lads, lads here, listen
• 1:12:54
  lads, why are you talking to me here?
• 1:12:56
  Why aren't you talking to me? It takes.
• 1:12:58
  Some so long. To figure out that the boys are
• 1:13:00
  like but you're. Keeping secrets.
• 1:13:01
  Or just be. Like the ignorant bollocks.
• 1:13:04
  Why aren't you saying that? Yeah, fucking ignorant back well
• 1:13:06
  now. You're just being fucking rude.
• 1:13:08
  The one lad that can talk to him explains it to him and then
• 1:13:10
  Brandon goes oh like how would you not figure out like I.
• 1:13:16
  Think you see a bunch. Of monks not talking to you, how
• 1:13:18
  do you not figure out that they're celibate like?
• 1:13:20
  Or and then like what's? What's?
• 1:13:22
  The ace not. The same a venture.
• 1:13:23
  He brings him into like he brings him into like a certain
• 1:13:27
  room in a monastery. One night just brings Brendan in
• 1:13:29
  when everyone else is asleep. They dislike an arrow flies in a
• 1:13:34
  window, lights the candle, and then the arrow flies back out
• 1:13:37
  and Brendan is just yeah and Brendan just like what the fuck
• 1:13:41
  is going on here? Fantasia.
• 1:13:43
  Bullshit is. Just like everyone wake up, we
• 1:13:45
  have to leave. Yeah.
• 1:13:46
  Yeah, we are not staying here. This thing is like that's that's
• 1:13:51
  everything's God, So that was God like that's sure that was
• 1:13:54
  there's another island where, umm, there's not only birds.
• 1:13:58
  Yeah, well, that's that's very common.
• 1:14:00
  That's that is quite common that you go to an island where
• 1:14:03
  there's birds, but all these birds start talking to them and.
• 1:14:09
  He's OK, of course. They did, and again, this is the
• 1:14:12
  real Christian. Sure.
• 1:14:13
  So I speak. Birdland of.
• 1:14:15
  Course I speak two can. Like.
• 1:14:18
  Two can play at that game. That was so good, I'm sorry.
• 1:14:27
  Fuck me, now he has all these birds were apparently the angels
• 1:14:32
  that took Lucifer's side when he was, eh, going to challenge God.
• 1:14:40
  My man didn't do. When he went to war with him,
• 1:14:43
  right Lucifer? Was like eh.
• 1:14:44
  Here you can't cast me out of heaven.
• 1:14:46
  I he was delight breaker. He was kicked out of heaven for
• 1:14:49
  the for the fact that he said I can run this best Baron God.
• 1:14:53
  So he kind of was started a rebellion and he could have and.
• 1:14:56
  And he could have. So all all these birds were
• 1:14:59
  actually the angels that backed up Lucifer and were like, yeah,
• 1:15:03
  we've got your back buddy. And when God turned them all
• 1:15:07
  into birds of paradise and put them out onto this fucking this
• 1:15:12
  island and that's they find themselves on that island then,
• 1:15:14
  and that's their penance is that they have to live as birds on
• 1:15:17
  this fucking island. What the fucking shitty
• 1:15:19
  punishment? Like not not for the bird.
• 1:15:23
  You're like, oh, I get to be a fucking tropical bird of a
• 1:15:26
  beautiful island. Oh no.
• 1:15:28
  Sorry God, all the Brendan stories are just like.
• 1:15:30
  And then he went to this island where this weird thing happened,
• 1:15:34
  like there was 1 island where there was a man change.
• 1:15:37
  Why I was going to yeah, this was my next one I was going to
• 1:15:40
  talk about. So the man that was chanting out
• 1:15:41
  this one sometimes ties into the island with the the fire coming
• 1:15:49
  out of it. So the what?
• 1:15:51
  Some people are interpreted as Iceland, eh They have brought
• 1:15:54
  the way away from eh this, this island that they looked like
• 1:15:59
  basically hell because fire was being spit into the air and
• 1:16:02
  there was blacksmiths all over the place.
• 1:16:04
  So when they were leaving, they saw this guy that was chained to
• 1:16:08
  a stone. And as he was chained to this
• 1:16:11
  rock, the water level would rise up and cover him completely.
• 1:16:16
  And after a few seconds, the water will come back down and
• 1:16:20
  he'd take a big deep intake of of breath.
• 1:16:24
  Well, he didn't look like he was in distress and he didn't look
• 1:16:26
  like he was he was in pain at all.
• 1:16:29
  And Brendan decided, OK, we need to have a chat with this guy.
• 1:16:32
  So he went up and it turns out that this was Judas Iscariot,
• 1:16:36
  who because it was on a Sunday, Judas had made a deal.
• 1:16:43
  Eh, well, Jesus had made a deal with Satan who let Judas off
• 1:16:49
  every Sunday, so he's not in the pits of hell being burnt, eh?
• 1:16:55
  By all this fucking brimstone and fire, eh?
• 1:16:59
  The one day he has all, he gets chained to a rock in the cold
• 1:17:03
  Atlantic and gets doused with waves and gets fucking drowned
• 1:17:07
  and on drowned, drowned and on drowned and.
• 1:17:10
  Yeah, he's this is his point. Yeah, well, that's actually his
• 1:17:12
  reprieve. So this day is his best day.
• 1:17:15
  When they ask him when they they ask him what he's doing there,
• 1:17:20
  he says this is my basically he's like, this is my day off.
• 1:17:24
  I get one day a week off from hell and this is my day off.
• 1:17:28
  So this is actually the most refreshing Judas ever will be.
• 1:17:33
  So Jesus. Jesus took pity on Judas in hell
• 1:17:37
  and has given him a day off. So they chained him to a fucking
• 1:17:39
  rock in the Atlantic where he is constantly drowning every few.
• 1:17:42
  Minutes still just getting fucked up, but it's.
• 1:17:44
  So much but this is this pretty bad point of this story is
• 1:17:48
  that's so much more better than hell.
• 1:17:50
  So like when you meet when you meet Judas and he's been drowned
• 1:17:54
  and drowned and drowned again of a Sunday.
• 1:17:57
  You have to know like this is what we're saying to to
• 1:18:00
  Christians to sit if you would be a Sinner if your way is to
• 1:18:03
  hell, you can imagine this is your.
• 1:18:05
  Day off. Yeah, This is your.
• 1:18:07
  Yeah. Your best day of the week is the
• 1:18:09
  day is the week where you're chained to a stone and you're
• 1:18:11
  being drowned constantly like. This story reminds me of the
• 1:18:14
  story of Sisyphus, Yes. And that like he's, he's
• 1:18:18
  constantly pushing the rock up the hill and then he just has to
• 1:18:20
  start from scratch and go again and again and again.
• 1:18:22
  It just, it just reminds me of that like repetitive, eh
• 1:18:26
  punishment. I actually think it's it's a, if
• 1:18:28
  you know the story of Prometheus, where he gets he
• 1:18:31
  gets changed to a rock. Michael Fassbender, robot.
• 1:18:35
  And a bunch of birds eh, come down and.
• 1:18:38
  Eh, they eat his liver, but. It regenerates, yeah.
• 1:18:41
  And then they just do it again and again.
• 1:18:43
  And then it just. Happens again, like that's what
• 1:18:45
  I was pulling out. I think Sisyphus is a good eh,
• 1:18:48
  eh, a good juxtaposition as well where you're kind of like, it's
• 1:18:51
  that repetitive thing like you've just no reprieve from
• 1:18:54
  this. Yeah, eh, kind of it's, it's
• 1:18:57
  your toil. That's that's yes.
• 1:19:00
  So that's exactly, that's what that's what you've got for life.
• 1:19:03
  And if if eh, it's the kind of when you talk about eh, forever
• 1:19:11
  after when you say it to somebody like like our life
• 1:19:15
  right now isn't permanent, isn't forever.
• 1:19:18
  It's like it what you do in the afterlife is forever.
• 1:19:23
  And if you go down the route of doing this bad thing, you're
• 1:19:27
  going to be forever chained to a rock or you're going to be
• 1:19:30
  forever in hell or you're going to be forever getting picked
• 1:19:33
  your liver and eyeballs getting packed out by a fucking
• 1:19:35
  vultures. So like I think there is this
• 1:19:39
  like what again in Brendan the actual dude didn't meet Judas
• 1:19:44
  Iscariot on a rock. This is the Christians giving
• 1:19:46
  you some tales of fantasy while. It's, and this is what like you
• 1:19:51
  were saying earlier, it's like the Odyssey and it's the Odyssey
• 1:19:53
  of this trek across the, the North Atlantic from Ireland to
• 1:19:57
  Ireland. And in each like each island is
• 1:20:00
  like a scene. Yes, it's a chapter.
• 1:20:03
  And it's like, you know, they, they went to the next one and
• 1:20:06
  you know, like it's, it's characters from the Bible, like
• 1:20:08
  it's a comic book. It's just like, oh, and then.
• 1:20:10
  Judas Iscariot was chained to a Rock, You know, and then the
• 1:20:14
  next one there was these birds that were angels and they were
• 1:20:18
  on Lucifer side and their punishment is to be on this
• 1:20:21
  craggy rock. It's not a black devil is like,
• 1:20:23
  it's really. Judas Iscariot is played by
• 1:20:25
  Robert Downey Junior. To be honest, I actually would
• 1:20:28
  watch that movie now. I'd watch this shit.
• 1:20:31
  I would watch that movie. Yeah, so these these kind of so
• 1:20:36
  that's again, I just just write that because like when I even
• 1:20:39
  looking up saying Brendan this week.
• 1:20:42
  And of course, like when it comes to this kind of stuff, I
• 1:20:44
  really get into like fucking, I'm going to, I'm going to get
• 1:20:47
  into the weeds on this one. And I got into both sides of it
• 1:20:52
  of like people talking about who the actual man would have been.
• 1:20:56
  And then they're the religious. So like I've listened to to
• 1:21:00
  historians talk about it. I've listened to like
• 1:21:04
  storytellers, I've listened to sermons on this and talking
• 1:21:12
  about like what the the lessons are and all of this kind of
• 1:21:15
  stuff. And it is just this, it's this
• 1:21:19
  wonderful kind of amalgamation of something that happened like
• 1:21:25
  like hundreds of years ago that now has like transformed into
• 1:21:30
  something completely different. So like for me, I was like, I
• 1:21:35
  was getting on board with this because I loved the idea of, eh,
• 1:21:39
  an Irish Navy and Irish sailor getting to the, the new world
• 1:21:45
  before, yeah, like a Viking or, or the lakes of Columbus or, or
• 1:21:50
  like, I just love that idea of like, just like, you know,
• 1:21:54
  again, I, I'm very proud Irish man who was like.
• 1:21:57
  Yeah. Fucking our little country.
• 1:21:59
  We did it again, you know, we did something there.
• 1:22:01
  Yeah, but it's it's that thing of like Irish people we love.
• 1:22:05
  We love nothing more than like so we.
• 1:22:07
  Did that first, yeah, 100%. And that was us in most cases we
• 1:22:12
  did do a first. And so and when it comes to get
• 1:22:15
  into America, lads, we did that first.
• 1:22:18
  And now when it obviously the Christians get their hands on
• 1:22:23
  someone, again, I'm not saying like the Christians get their
• 1:22:24
  hands on something because like by all accounts, he is a monk.
• 1:22:29
  He is like, you know, that's documented.
• 1:22:31
  He's a monk. And he did, he did sail, he
• 1:22:34
  travelled up, he, he did put monasteries in places like the
• 1:22:41
  Hebrides in Scotland where he would have inverted depicts that
• 1:22:47
  were still there at the time. Eh, into Christianity like so he
• 1:22:52
  was, I just love this story of like, so Saint Patrick came over
• 1:22:56
  and fuck it, give Christianity to Ireland from Britain.
• 1:22:59
  And then we had Brendan. He went back over to Britain,
• 1:23:02
  all the places that were still left, like, and I was like,
• 1:23:08
  yeah, you could have Christianity back as bastards.
• 1:23:10
  There was an island that he went to as well that had there was a
• 1:23:15
  like a hermit. This like ancient old, old man
• 1:23:19
  and he said that he, he was, I can't remember the name, but
• 1:23:23
  like he had said that he was like a companion of Saint
• 1:23:25
  Patrick's. And then he was like living on
• 1:23:27
  this island on his own. So like again, it's just it's
• 1:23:30
  tying all of these like early Christian stories, myths and
• 1:23:34
  legends into like the the Christian stories and legends.
• 1:23:37
  I thought he said that he he buried Tim.
• 1:23:39
  Patrick Yeah, yeah. He would have been 150 years
• 1:23:41
  old. Yeah.
• 1:23:42
  And like a lot of these guys, like they had these extended
• 1:23:47
  lives because of their, their Christian faith or extended
• 1:23:51
  lives because of the adventures that they went on.
• 1:23:54
  Like when when Saint Brendan dies, spoiler alert, he's
• 1:24:00
  reportedly like 90, 93. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:24:04
  Which like for the 6th century like you're not living past 25
• 1:24:08
  like. What happened when he was 80 as
• 1:24:10
  well? So that, that's something that
• 1:24:11
  we don't, we, we don't need to talk.
• 1:24:12
  But that was, he was this accomplished ship, right?
• 1:24:15
  And he, he was a, he lived his life and went around, built
• 1:24:19
  these monasteries and then eventually he was like, there's
• 1:24:21
  nothing left to conquer over here in the East, so.
• 1:24:25
  I need to find more and that was I need to.
• 1:24:26
  Find more land. Well, it makes more of it makes
• 1:24:29
  more sense how much of A bollocks he was.
• 1:24:32
  He was just this old, commodionally old man who was
• 1:24:35
  like I told you saw, I told you not fucking sit on island.
• 1:24:37
  I need to find more places to bring misery to.
• 1:24:40
  When you get to that point though, I think when you get to
• 1:24:43
  like 80 and beyond, you're just well within your rights that
• 1:24:45
  everyone just has to fucking lay everything down, listen to you.
• 1:24:47
  Yeah, yeah, like I. Mean someone gets to that point.
• 1:24:50
  To me, I'm just like, you know what?
• 1:24:51
  Yeah, you're dead right? You can't.
• 1:24:53
  Yeah, I can't argue with someone who's lived that life.
• 1:24:55
  You know what? You know you did discover
• 1:24:58
  America, Brendan, You did. I I believe in Brendan.
• 1:25:01
  Yeah. You know.
• 1:25:02
  Finer man could do it. Exactly.
• 1:25:04
  And I think you just, you just entertain someone at that age at
• 1:25:08
  like at that point because you're just like, you know what?
• 1:25:10
  Yeah, you know what? Like what's what's that thing in
• 1:25:12
  the Bible Where? Like what's his name with the
• 1:25:15
  boat? Oh no, I was.
• 1:25:16
  Like, well, yeah, Matusa was like, listen, Noah, like 300
• 1:25:19
  years old or something insane. Like.
• 1:25:22
  Is he the guy that fought? Like.
• 1:25:24
  No, no, I had the boat. No, Matusala fought Samson right
• 1:25:27
  with the hair. No, no, that's the day.
• 1:25:29
  Oh no, Samsung was the hit. No, Matusala was the guy who was
• 1:25:32
  really. Samsung.
• 1:25:33
  Goliath. Samson was the guy who.
• 1:25:36
  No, I know Samsung. Goliath.
• 1:25:37
  Samson was a giant whose strength was in his hair.
• 1:25:41
  Yeah, yeah. And Delilah cuts cuts hair off
• 1:25:44
  or got his hair cut off and. I only I'm saying this, I only
• 1:25:47
  know this because that episode of The Simpsons where they did
• 1:25:51
  the Bible episodes and grandpa paid materials.
• 1:25:55
  Most of my references in the world anyway.
• 1:25:58
  How? That's how I learned my Bible.
• 1:26:00
  And it was like David and Goliath and then farts David and
• 1:26:03
  Nelson is Goliath and he cuts his hair and he's like, haha,
• 1:26:06
  it's like you're you're, you're not like unstoppable.
• 1:26:09
  I cut your hair. And he's like, that stuff's an.
• 1:26:12
  Idiot. No one is a descendant.
• 1:26:18
  Moses, I believe, who is a descendant of Enoch.
• 1:26:22
  Yeah. So like Enoch that that that guy
• 1:26:25
  hangs around. No, that it's not a very Irish
• 1:26:28
  name, you know 1. Fucking you know.
• 1:26:30
  One Irish guy named Enoch who's who is a biblical yes, who is
• 1:26:34
  named after this fucking Enoch. Yeah.
• 1:26:36
  Now we should get into the book of fucking Enoch guys, because
• 1:26:40
  that guy was abducted by aliens, but umm, or actually for sure.
• 1:26:45
  Or actually Danny, you especially, and after giving you
• 1:26:49
  a couple of things today that you can go away from here, that
• 1:26:55
  one being Akash and his missus, because you can get in on that
• 1:27:00
  bandwagon at the time. Oh my God, yeah.
• 1:27:02
  The next one is the Book of Enoch is really interesting when
• 1:27:06
  it comes to like mad biblical stuff.
• 1:27:09
  Please put like prove, prove me wrong.
• 1:27:11
  I'm going to cut you off for a second.
• 1:27:12
  It's just because the name is is stuck in my head now.
• 1:27:14
  Is this not the name of the kid who plays Roy Keane in that new
• 1:27:18
  movie about Roy? Keane, he his, I think his name
• 1:27:22
  is Anna EANNA, isn't it? Or am I completely getting that
• 1:27:26
  wrong? Enna, is that how you say that?
• 1:27:29
  Enna. EA double NA.
• 1:27:31
  Call it Anna or Anna. Anna, probably, yeah.
• 1:27:34
  Enoch Burke is the guy who's hanging around the school
• 1:27:37
  because he wouldn't say that. I know the guy who hates
• 1:27:40
  everything like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:27:42
  No, I, I just umm, yeah, no, I will.
• 1:27:45
  I will take that away because that's that's really.
• 1:27:46
  The Book of Enoch is very is very.
• 1:27:48
  It's a it's a book that was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
• 1:27:52
  Eh, they didn't put in to the Bible because the stories are so
• 1:27:57
  fucking but like he's mentioned in the Bible because.
• 1:27:59
  It's too cool. Well, it's.
• 1:28:01
  There's so much shit that hasn't been put in the Bible and like,
• 1:28:03
  you can see like it's like, I mean, it's, it's all there like
• 1:28:06
  for. Yeah, like.
• 1:28:07
  There's a bunch of, there's a bunch of text like in the Dead
• 1:28:10
  Sea Scrolls, there's like 700 fucking scrolls.
• 1:28:12
  Yeah. And they're like, oh, it's not
• 1:28:14
  in. It didn't make the cut, but
• 1:28:16
  here's where to find it. Like, it's not like it's like
• 1:28:18
  fucking hidden and stuff. But then there's like, I mean,
• 1:28:21
  we could do the whole episode on this and I was gonna, I was
• 1:28:23
  gonna like preach with you guys before.
• 1:28:26
  But like the shit that's like underneath the Vatican, like so
• 1:28:29
  much shit that would kind of lend weight to.
• 1:28:34
  Yeah, that would lend weight to like Brendan's voyage and things
• 1:28:36
  like that over the years and stuff that like they've just
• 1:28:39
  left out like. So basically like that time was
• 1:28:44
  like very much more like far more advanced than we're led to
• 1:28:49
  believe for different reasons and different things, but.
• 1:28:52
  There's a lot of stuff like like, eh, just to go back to eh,
• 1:28:55
  Ocean's eh point of like, wasn't Noah 400 years old or something
• 1:29:00
  like that? Yeah, each generation we've
• 1:29:02
  gotten like, so like, as you were saying, any like all this
• 1:29:05
  stuff in that's underneath there the fucking Vatican, all these
• 1:29:09
  like all stories, same thing. Like they would talk about all
• 1:29:12
  these old characters that were like, you know, where, where all
• 1:29:16
  these people could like the generations before, like who
• 1:29:18
  knows, begets and all this shit. Like who who has got like what?
• 1:29:22
  Like Moses was like 500 years old then I guess that fucking
• 1:29:26
  Enoch was fucking, you know, 1000 years old.
• 1:29:29
  And like it goes like that. And as it comes back.
• 1:29:30
  But all these people are apparently like originally from
• 1:29:34
  the Nephilim. You know what, you get me.
• 1:29:36
  So like these giants to our Yeah, the bastard spawn of
• 1:29:41
  humans and angels. Oh, don't.
• 1:29:43
  Let's not get in. Let's get back on to Saint
• 1:29:45
  Brendan. No, we can.
• 1:29:47
  We can do. Again, we can do a whole episode
• 1:29:48
  like, like I said to you, like my whole, like, which, Yeah,
• 1:29:53
  like my whole witchcraft thing. And it's like, you know, like
• 1:29:55
  worshiping like demons and things.
• 1:29:57
  They were old. God, back in the day, it's just
• 1:30:00
  been fucking scripture. That's been a lot.
• 1:30:01
  Like it's. Not before, you know, organized
• 1:30:04
  religion, you know, it's like Pagan gods and stuff like.
• 1:30:07
  That exactly. And it's like it's even like the
• 1:30:09
  likes of like so one of my favorite things that we can talk
• 1:30:12
  about on another episode is the Morgan who is like the Irish
• 1:30:15
  goddess of like war and death and and things like that.
• 1:30:17
  So she's very much associated with Ireland.
• 1:30:20
  She's been a God for fucking forever and it's still just been
• 1:30:24
  like, well, no, she's a demonist.
• 1:30:25
  You will find so many like you know, like publications that
• 1:30:30
  will basically deem her a demonist.
• 1:30:31
  She's like you know, she appears when you're at your books
• 1:30:34
  vulnerable. She, but it's.
• 1:30:35
  Just that it's just that Christian, you know,
• 1:30:37
  Christianity was like, we have one God and all of the it's.
• 1:30:40
  A set of. Rule all of the previous ones.
• 1:30:42
  They're false gods and they're trickster gods.
• 1:30:45
  Yeah. The funny.
• 1:30:45
  Thing, you know what? Yeah, it's, I think it it speaks
• 1:30:49
  a lot for our Irishness. And this actually does kind of
• 1:30:51
  tie back into to the brand and stuff eventually and the bridge
• 1:30:54
  itself. But like what they tried to do
• 1:30:58
  with Ireland coming in. So like again, we were very hard
• 1:31:02
  to get rid of their culture. So what they ended up doing was
• 1:31:08
  like bringing Christian, we've talked about before bringing
• 1:31:11
  Christianity into our culture, and that's how we ended up with
• 1:31:13
  Celtic crosses and like the Book of Kells is basically all these.
• 1:31:17
  Yeah, it's yeah. So.
• 1:31:19
  They we have our own kind of health Christianity because of
• 1:31:23
  it, because we were so it was so hard to get the paganism out of
• 1:31:25
  Ireland. They were just like, OK, and now
• 1:31:27
  what we're going to do is take all these Pagan stories and kind
• 1:31:30
  of just, you know, shoehorn Christianity that was actually
• 1:31:33
  God. Telling you something?
• 1:31:35
  Yeah. The funny thing about what they
• 1:31:36
  did with like the likes of them, the dag that and like are all
• 1:31:40
  like so the dag that would be eh, our kind of order our like
• 1:31:44
  our our all fatter. Yeah, so they turned him into
• 1:31:49
  this drunken off who all he wanted to do was have sex and
• 1:31:53
  and a drink and eat and fill. Like and.
• 1:31:56
  But. This.
• 1:31:58
  Kind of bigger. The Irish people went.
• 1:32:01
  He sounds class but. Really.
• 1:32:03
  He sounds. Pretty fucking yeah.
• 1:32:05
  Even when you go back into the text where like if you can get
• 1:32:09
  back into the stories pre Christian where like they tried
• 1:32:12
  to demonize him, he is a big kind of a jolly, eh?
• 1:32:18
  Fucking eats all around them, rides all around them, doesn't
• 1:32:21
  give a fuck. Like well, like the Christians
• 1:32:23
  came in and were like, this guy sounds awful.
• 1:32:26
  He's so anti Christian. And they were like, so did you
• 1:32:30
  know that he's a drunkard? This guy is just some drunk sex
• 1:32:33
  scene and all the Irish boys are like yeah.
• 1:32:45
  Imagine like the 6th century. He's like, what's the rat?
• 1:32:47
  Don't worry about it, you'll find out your kids.
• 1:32:49
  Are. Going to love.
• 1:32:50
  It, but it is a huge thing when it comes to like people who like
• 1:32:53
  find who find witchcraft and things like this, right?
• 1:32:55
  And it's like basically, and I, I've mentioned this a few times
• 1:32:58
  on the podcast, so I won't go too much into it, but if you're
• 1:33:01
  looking at things like demon auditory and stuff like that,
• 1:33:04
  there is a demon for literally fucking everything, like for,
• 1:33:07
  for Rd. works. There's a demon for fucking like
• 1:33:11
  caught death. There's a there's a demon for
• 1:33:12
  everything, anything that you can think of.
• 1:33:14
  There's a specific demon that's assigned this thing, right?
• 1:33:18
  And The thing is, it's like when you're praying to just God for
• 1:33:22
  one thing, the theory is it's just like.
• 1:33:26
  Well, technically, Danny, and this actually does tie back in
• 1:33:30
  the same brand and then we've brought it back there.
• 1:33:32
  Let's do it. It will, I know.
• 1:33:34
  But there's no you're. Right.
• 1:33:35
  Like there's a theme for it, but there is a St. for everything in
• 1:33:37
  so much, right? Yes, said.
• 1:33:39
  That. Brendan, right?
• 1:33:41
  Yeah. Is.
• 1:33:42
  He's the patron St. Of a bunch of things, but one of
• 1:33:45
  the things that he's a patron St.
• 1:33:47
  Of is he's the patron St. Of carrying a board from a river
• 1:33:52
  to another river. That's so specific.
• 1:33:55
  That would apparently just a name for that.
• 1:33:57
  But. There's everything that like,
• 1:33:59
  there's so many specific. I fucking so muddied and and and
• 1:34:05
  this is the thing, right, So you can go to right and and a whole
• 1:34:09
  kind of thing is is that like you you know, when you lose
• 1:34:11
  something and you yeah, send Anthony.
• 1:34:14
  Where the fuck are my keys? Do you mean he's used in
• 1:34:16
  witchcraft? A lot of witches.
• 1:34:17
  You said Anthony because like they use Saint Anthony St.
• 1:34:20
  Michael and is in. Is in.
• 1:34:25
  I think so. From the Caribbean?
• 1:34:27
  From the Caribbean, yeah. And I've just.
• 1:34:29
  Looked up there, Archangel. Metatron, whatever.
• 1:34:33
  But anyway, so there's this whole thing where.
• 1:34:37
  Don't do that. Whatever what we have with the
• 1:34:39
  Megatron, what we have with the Metatron there, yeah.
• 1:34:42
  Metatron, Archangel. Archangel Metatron.
• 1:34:45
  What do you got to do saying that there?
• 1:34:47
  I just mean there's like there's angels you can.
• 1:34:49
  Pray to because you can go to. Listen, I think you can go to
• 1:34:52
  Archangel Michael, Archangel Metatron, all of these things.
• 1:34:55
  But so when it comes to these things, so people like when it
• 1:34:58
  comes to Pagan gods and deities and things like that, and.
• 1:35:02
  Anthony, not black. You're you're more likely to get
• 1:35:04
  an answer if you're going to a specific deity that's in charge
• 1:35:10
  of the specific thing that you need, rather than just a
• 1:35:13
  general. Please God help me find my keys.
• 1:35:17
  Like if you're looking at it like the this fucking God
• 1:35:20
  probably has a bullet. Box, sorry.
• 1:35:23
  Yes. The black guy.
• 1:35:25
  Eh, what's he in charge? Of let's see the Patron St.
• 1:35:28
  Eh, let's let's get down there. St.
• 1:35:30
  Manda Porres. In charge of oh, she being all
• 1:35:34
  respectful and like what is he the patron centre, Like what is.
• 1:35:37
  He does he known as the patron St. of mixed race people,
• 1:35:40
  innkeepers and hair stylists. Saint Martin, I cannot get my
• 1:35:48
  weave. Like that there you.
• 1:35:49
  Go. I mean, that's.
• 1:35:50
  Just. It's it feels, it feels like a
• 1:35:53
  racist joke. It's.
• 1:35:57
  It's not patron St. of hair. What hair?
• 1:36:00
  Hair stylist. Styles or what?
• 1:36:01
  Is it hair stylist it comes to like?
• 1:36:05
  It gets that specific with stuff like.
• 1:36:08
  Anyway, we'll go back to we'll we'll.
• 1:36:10
  We'll go back to, uh, Brandon, but what I want, I, the point
• 1:36:12
  that I wanted to make basically was that when it comes to, umm,
• 1:36:16
  the, the culture and everything like that, before Ireland was
• 1:36:21
  basically raped by Christianity is that you had very specific
• 1:36:24
  gods that would do very specific things that you needed them for.
• 1:36:28
  There were very specific rituals, very specific prayers,
• 1:36:33
  offerings, things like that, that Irish people would make to
• 1:36:36
  basically ensure sure that they got what they wanted and needed,
• 1:36:40
  that they were well taken care of.
• 1:36:41
  So you're not going to just go to fucking like, so there's
• 1:36:45
  here's an example, right? We'll go to like Agrapat Milat,
• 1:36:47
  who is one of the brides of Lucifer who's her whole job is
• 1:36:52
  basically to make whores hot. She was goddess of prostitutes.
• 1:36:56
  She was basically like you. You pray to her if you're like,
• 1:36:59
  I need to bring in money for this, this and this.
• 1:37:02
  I need you to make me look attractive.
• 1:37:03
  I need men to want to pay for me.
• 1:37:05
  You would pray to her for that. You wouldn't go to her to be
• 1:37:08
  like, basically the sheep aren't doing as much as I want them to
• 1:37:11
  do. That's the third job.
• 1:37:14
  Do you mean? But that's basically you had
• 1:37:15
  like a whole fucking like with the Pagan system.
• 1:37:19
  You had multiple gods that were in charge of multiple different
• 1:37:22
  things. You'd call up your hotline
• 1:37:24
  basically, and you'd be like, press one for livestock, press 2
• 1:37:28
  for like marriage, press 34. I'm fucking broke.
• 1:37:32
  And that's how it worked. And then when Christianity came
• 1:37:35
  in, it was like, just say your prayers.
• 1:37:37
  So it's like, so do you think and what do you think that like
• 1:37:40
  someone prayed to this spirit or patron St. of prostitutes to
• 1:37:44
  like make a sexy sheep? And that's how Wales became a
• 1:37:48
  country. Probably, probably it'll be like
• 1:37:51
  just just make her look a little bit more, but like just make her
• 1:37:54
  like her like lift her eyes a little bit, just make the airs
• 1:37:57
  look a little bit rounder. Probably.
• 1:37:58
  Do you know what I mean? Like, but there was this is the
• 1:38:01
  thing about like paganism and how it was like so frowned upon
• 1:38:03
  because it's like, no, you shouldn't have this much choice.
• 1:38:06
  You shouldn't have this option to like basically it's like, you
• 1:38:09
  know, faith and religion is not a catalog.
• 1:38:12
  It's you punishing yourself for fucking forever.
• 1:38:15
  And if this one deity decides that you're deserving of it,
• 1:38:18
  then you're blessed. So on that on that note, yeah.
• 1:38:21
  Bring it back, Ocean, please. I'm going to get angry.
• 1:38:24
  We're talking about like we're talking about like a deeper
• 1:38:27
  meaning essentially being in these things.
• 1:38:29
  Yeah. And so yes, the voyage of
• 1:38:31
  Brendan. See, like I, I pay attention to
• 1:38:35
  the notes I. Do I just.
• 1:38:37
  I'm just, I'm worked up now. I hate, I hate I.
• 1:38:41
  Just don't even know how you got there.
• 1:38:43
  Just. Like Danny was like, I wanted to
• 1:38:46
  talk about demons and demonesses and that's it.
• 1:38:48
  I was gonna talk about though. I don't know.
• 1:38:51
  Anyway, whatever. It's fun.
• 1:38:53
  Talk about your gay sailor, stupid trip, whatever.
• 1:38:57
  And. In the Navy.
• 1:39:01
  Like, funny thing is, he is actually a patron St. of the
• 1:39:04
  American Navy. Yeah, so.
• 1:39:09
  I'll plug your old. From the north here, are we
• 1:39:15
  going to get into, uh, Tim Sheridan or anything?
• 1:39:17
  Yeah, no, I have got a bunch. So we went to, yeah, that was my
• 1:39:21
  next, my next point. Umm, So basically what I had put
• 1:39:24
  was, uh, the whole he discovered Newfoundland, umm, and then the
• 1:39:29
  theory about him basically like was he before Columbus?
• 1:39:33
  Was he not? Umm, which we've, we've gone
• 1:39:36
  fabulously off topic of that. I love umm, So the next thing is
• 1:39:40
  a Tim Severin. Yeah.
• 1:39:46
  So he and I, I we mentioned this like a little bit earlier in the
• 1:39:50
  podcast, but so in 1976, he basically reconstructed the
• 1:39:58
  ship. Can you call it a ship?
• 1:40:01
  Or a ship. That's the kind of port that is
• 1:40:05
  indigenous to Ireland, like, yeah.
• 1:40:07
  Yeah, that that Brendan would have sailed in with these 14 to
• 1:40:11
  60 depending on who you asked man.
• 1:40:14
  So people used to say that the story was just a fairy tale
• 1:40:17
  because an oxide boat would melt in the ocean.
• 1:40:21
  But in 1976 Tim Severin built a leather boat using 6 century
• 1:40:27
  methods and sailed it from Ireland to Canada and he proved
• 1:40:31
  that the tech actually worked. So he.
• 1:40:36
  I mean, I'm assuming that took a long fucking time and then he
• 1:40:39
  ran into. 13 months he it took for him to get across so.
• 1:40:44
  He ran into many, many difficulties just on that craft
• 1:40:49
  alone I am assuming. But like he did it successfully.
• 1:40:53
  So it is possible. It is doable and I guess like
• 1:40:55
  back then maybe if you take into account the likes of like
• 1:41:02
  weather changes, things like that.
• 1:41:03
  It depends time of year I. Actually went in May and he he
• 1:41:06
  took the the route that Brendan would have talked.
• 1:41:10
  Is this Tim or is this? Is Tim.
• 1:41:12
  So what? What?
• 1:41:14
  So what time of year did Brendan leave again?
• 1:41:15
  I I didn't look that. I didn't mean to do that
• 1:41:18
  beforehand. Like he did.
• 1:41:20
  It doesn't get into that level of detail like.
• 1:41:22
  If it's five. I would like to know though if
• 1:41:25
  the waters were mild and because obviously he's not going to
• 1:41:28
  fucking set. Off and like so one of the
• 1:41:30
  places they went to the the sea appeared to be thick because
• 1:41:34
  there was like slushy ice on the surface of the sea.
• 1:41:38
  So I think like, you know, because it was over 7 years, I
• 1:41:42
  think they just experienced every type of well, your
• 1:41:47
  condition 7. Years.
• 1:41:48
  Again, this is the Christians, right?
• 1:41:50
  So like it took seven years and they were wandering around for
• 1:41:54
  seven years and they kept going back to the same spots and they
• 1:41:57
  basically don't according to the Christian calendar.
• 1:42:00
  Essentially. Yeah, again.
• 1:42:02
  The Christian calendar as well. So they had Easter on the back
• 1:42:04
  of the whale every year and they had Christmas in the same place
• 1:42:08
  every year and like every one of these feast days that's.
• 1:42:12
  What they mean the? Whale.
• 1:42:14
  Was the same spot eventually the the the last time they were on
• 1:42:18
  the whale so they're. Like, oh, this way, no, we gotta
• 1:42:21
  go back here. No, we gotta go this way like.
• 1:42:22
  Just made on the whale the whale actually helped them out and
• 1:42:25
  like brought them towards the place so like they the whale
• 1:42:27
  actually got became accustomed to them this just just for us so
• 1:42:31
  there's. No white.
• 1:42:33
  Now, yeah, so basically let's I want to get away from the
• 1:42:36
  fantasy shade and I want, I want to keep on with him.
• 1:42:40
  I hate this man. No, you've made me hate this.
• 1:42:42
  Man, Christian version of this man who was holier than thou.
• 1:42:46
  And who is this fucking story? The real dude, This fucking salt
• 1:42:50
  of the fucking. Is awesome.
• 1:42:52
  Yeah, nice fucking. Like Navigator.
• 1:42:55
  This boss man who was so fucking good at what he did that he
• 1:42:58
  fucking got into a boat and he traveled.
• 1:43:00
  And that's, that's the beauty of of of the actual, that what what
• 1:43:05
  this guy Tim Severin did was he proved that this guy wasn't just
• 1:43:10
  a myth really. He could have actually done
• 1:43:13
  that. Now, whether he meditated him
• 1:43:14
  like, I'm not going to say that he did make it to the Americans.
• 1:43:17
  I want to believe that he made it to the Americans.
• 1:43:19
  Yeah, I really do want to believe that.
• 1:43:21
  And like when it comes to like him documenting these actual
• 1:43:25
  places, I like when the non fantasy versions of the places
• 1:43:28
  where he went, eh, like when he gets this island where it was
• 1:43:34
  pure fog and mist. There is an island off of
• 1:43:37
  Newfoundland that the no because of the the way the weather comes
• 1:43:42
  in that it's. Just all.
• 1:43:44
  Of it's just. All year round it never lifts.
• 1:43:47
  And that this is what they explain.
• 1:43:48
  Yeah, that's that's any New England, Ireland, that's.
• 1:43:51
  But when Tim Severin came up with this, that he actually had
• 1:43:54
  this, so I think it was in May, he set sail.
• 1:43:57
  They set sail for a while and they just to test it out and
• 1:44:00
  they brought back to Ireland and they were they they had a look
• 1:44:03
  at him like holy fuck, Not only is this holding up, but like
• 1:44:08
  it's better than we would have taught.
• 1:44:10
  So we're actually going to do this?
• 1:44:11
  This shit works. So the I watched a documentary
• 1:44:14
  on it just today of the making the ship and it was all boards
• 1:44:19
  with a ash bent ash and with. I was going to say, just in my
• 1:44:27
  notes, isn't Ash like quite a mall?
• 1:44:30
  The one we. Were talking about.
• 1:44:32
  The selfies when we were talking about those boats coming down
• 1:44:34
  yeah, so they look like the ribs.
• 1:44:36
  So if you think about it, there's nice big orc plant plant
• 1:44:41
  and then these bent ash ribs that bring the, the boat around.
• 1:44:45
  Then they, the hole is made of ox hide, so leathered ox hide
• 1:44:51
  that they would have oiled and eh sealed eh as best they can.
• 1:44:58
  And then like so he had a bunch of like him.
• 1:45:01
  Tim Severn is from England, but he was enamoured by eh eh, this
• 1:45:07
  kind of the, the voyagers like even like he's built ships
• 1:45:11
  before he built long ships. And I, I think he liked Ireland
• 1:45:14
  so much and the, the West of Ireland that he actually settled
• 1:45:17
  here in the end. But he he went and he learned
• 1:45:20
  off of all these local people of how they would have actually
• 1:45:23
  built these corrects and. Because like corrects are still
• 1:45:26
  made to. A traditional like obviously not
• 1:45:29
  like they're not really being used as much like when you get
• 1:45:31
  for like practical. Use.
• 1:45:33
  It's more so just keeping the. Tradition, keep the tradition
• 1:45:35
  going, eh? So like he would have, he would
• 1:45:37
  have learned how to create like it was all bound together by
• 1:45:40
  blacks. And so all of this stuff was eh,
• 1:45:43
  like there was no, no nails, hammer nails built this thing at
• 1:45:48
  all. It was all this traditional way
• 1:45:50
  where it's all tied together. And he travelled to the, the Umm
• 1:45:56
  Scottish islands, into the Faroe Islands, across to Umm Iceland,
• 1:46:02
  onto Greenland, onto Newfoundland.
• 1:46:04
  And he proved that the boat that that Sam Brendan could have
• 1:46:10
  travelled in, he went there. It took him 13 months to go.
• 1:46:13
  He had a crew of five people, he said For the first while, they
• 1:46:17
  were all sick as pigs, like the Atlantic is unforgiven when it
• 1:46:21
  comes to the, the motion in the ocean.
• 1:46:25
  So like, they were sick. But once they got used to the,
• 1:46:28
  the once their bodies adapted and they got used to the the way
• 1:46:33
  it moved around, they they were fine.
• 1:46:36
  Like everything was good and they documented it.
• 1:46:38
  Obviously there was film crews document and this thing, it was
• 1:46:40
  a crazy kind of a thing. Like if you think like this is
• 1:46:44
  before the likes of Richard Branson tried to like travel
• 1:46:48
  around the world and you know, this kind of stuff.
• 1:46:50
  So like, this is a crazy thing for a guy to try and across the
• 1:46:53
  Atlantic in the 70s in a board that was from the 6th century,
• 1:46:57
  the early 6th century. Yeah, balls.
• 1:46:58
  Yeah. So like they documented that.
• 1:47:00
  So like you can see when they're travelling across the Atlantic,
• 1:47:03
  they see Wales, they've got a guy on board who is sketching.
• 1:47:08
  His job was to sketch all the time because again, you
• 1:47:11
  couldn't, like Sam Brendan couldn't document things by
• 1:47:15
  having guys out there with cameras.
• 1:47:17
  Like, so he had a guy out there sketch and stuff that yeah.
• 1:47:19
  Like when they came across an island, they had to give their
• 1:47:22
  impression of what the island could look like and they tried
• 1:47:25
  their best to see it through the eyes of a monk from 512 or
• 1:47:29
  whatever it was. It was from, eh.
• 1:47:32
  So like, but like that's that's when it was so again 6.
• 1:47:37
  Seven that. Was later, but eh.
• 1:47:42
  But the, the idea, the idea that he had was to kind of keep it to
• 1:47:48
  not only could you do the voyage, could you do the trip
• 1:47:50
  itself, but when you were seeing these sights, could you be able
• 1:47:54
  to like look at it in the, the wonderful way that these guys
• 1:47:59
  would have seen something. So when they saw a whale.
• 1:48:00
  Now you imagine when you're on I've I've been whale watching
• 1:48:04
  when I was in Iceland and you see these great humpback whales,
• 1:48:08
  but I was on a small enough board has.
• 1:48:11
  Nothing prepares. You to actually.
• 1:48:13
  See that thing like? I was on a.
• 1:48:16
  Yeah, like even like Baskin sharks who they're still common.
• 1:48:21
  And you know me and my my. Shark.
• 1:48:22
  They're you. They're crazy.
• 1:48:25
  I promise you I'm not. I promise you I'm not, but it's
• 1:48:28
  basically just like these like fucking things that like you
• 1:48:31
  don't when you see them for the first time and then you.
• 1:48:34
  Ask for what? Not saying these.
• 1:48:35
  Things you're just like. Massive.
• 1:48:37
  Yeah, it's the scale of them is like terrible.
• 1:48:39
  Yes, it's just like it's otherworldly to someone who
• 1:48:42
  hasn't seen it before. Like a whale watching ship or
• 1:48:47
  like they gave us the option, do you want to go out on a smaller
• 1:48:49
  boat to get out there faster and you'll be out there longer with
• 1:48:51
  the whale? So I was like, yeah, so we went
• 1:48:53
  out on a smaller boat. How close did you get to them?
• 1:48:56
  Sorry, did you get to like? I'm going to ask you what I'm
• 1:48:59
  sorry. Like it was, they were very
• 1:49:01
  distant and. They come up to the boats.
• 1:49:03
  They don't come up and like want to get paid like they're not.
• 1:49:06
  Unwaved. They're not scary.
• 1:49:08
  I know. That yeah, like they get like
• 1:49:09
  pretty close like, yeah, they were, they were saying like, oh,
• 1:49:13
  we don't know like we can see them at the distance.
• 1:49:15
  We don't know if they're going to get any closer to this.
• 1:49:17
  And then one breached probably like, you know, 100 yards away
• 1:49:20
  from us, like. And you could yeah.
• 1:49:22
  And it was a massive fucking thing.
• 1:49:23
  And then. That's cool, that's cool.
• 1:49:26
  The. Whole fluke fucking came up and
• 1:49:29
  out and crashed into the water as amazing.
• 1:49:31
  And like, then it just like, like you think you're blessed
• 1:49:35
  because you're seeing this and then it just starts happening
• 1:49:37
  all around. Like you're seeing a very
• 1:49:38
  special sort of gold. Yeah.
• 1:49:40
  So like what I'm saying is like I was on what was considered a
• 1:49:43
  small boat that would have probably been three times the
• 1:49:46
  size of their boat. And this had an mine had an
• 1:49:49
  engine in it and a bunch of like, you know, Yeah.
• 1:49:52
  And. You were still kind of like,
• 1:49:54
  whoa. Like there's like.
• 1:49:56
  Yeah, you can imagine being on a little boat.
• 1:49:57
  Metal, yeah. Wood.
• 1:49:59
  That you tied together with flax and fucking ox skin and
• 1:50:03
  something the size of your board reaches the water beside your
• 1:50:07
  board. Now your imagination is going to
• 1:50:09
  fuck yeah. Then you come across.
• 1:50:12
  You're like, this is a monster like.
• 1:50:14
  Looking, as we're saying again, you come across an island where
• 1:50:17
  you're literally seeing smoke raise out of the mountain and
• 1:50:20
  you can see and yeah, like, we know, like you.
• 1:50:23
  Can see that bright red lava coming in like yeah.
• 1:50:26
  Rivers of fire. This is the way they describe
• 1:50:28
  that rivers of fire flowed from the mountain to the sea, and the
• 1:50:34
  the smoke rose from the sea where the fire met the sea.
• 1:50:37
  So like you can imagine what's going through a fucking yeah, a
• 1:50:40
  newly Christian monk. Oh yeah, in like the fucking
• 1:50:46
  early, like the the mid for sense like first Millennium,
• 1:50:50
  like like you're just thinking like fucking holy shit.
• 1:50:53
  Well, like Brendan like told the guys on the boat, they were just
• 1:50:56
  like, this is the entrance to hell.
• 1:50:58
  Like, you know, it was that that thing of him like saying that he
• 1:51:00
  knew what everything was and it was like, this is the entrance
• 1:51:03
  from hell. We are.
• 1:51:04
  Our journey is so like perilous that we go close to the Yeah,
• 1:51:09
  basically. Yeah, I mean, but I mean, like
• 1:51:12
  the to take it back to that, like that's a huge fucking
• 1:51:15
  things. Like my first place that I
• 1:51:17
  visited, like, I guess you could say exotically, it's not like,
• 1:51:21
  but was like going to fucking New York to see my brother.
• 1:51:25
  But then we drove up to Pennsylvania and just the scale
• 1:51:28
  of the mountains even is fucking like jaw-dropping.
• 1:51:31
  So it's like when you're from Ireland, when you're from that
• 1:51:33
  tiny little place, anything is going to seem otherworldly, like
• 1:51:39
  fucking like, just like it's all going to like to seem like a
• 1:51:43
  fucking voyage, like something that's just like impossible.
• 1:51:46
  You who like again, you might have just been leaving Ireland
• 1:51:51
  and you're but like, you know that these things exist in the
• 1:51:53
  world now. Yeah.
• 1:51:57
  But it's still overwhelming as. Well, to see, it's like you've
• 1:52:01
  never, you have no scope, you've never experienced anything like
• 1:52:05
  that. Yes.
• 1:52:06
  I've not seen anything like like you're experiencing this true
• 1:52:11
  baby's eyes every time when you come across an island that has a
• 1:52:15
  bunch of like more sheep than you've ever seen in your life,
• 1:52:18
  you're going holy shit, that looks like a cloud because it's
• 1:52:20
  a. There's something special about
• 1:52:21
  this. There's something.
• 1:52:22
  Three times they get to one of these places.
• 1:52:24
  It's special. It's different completely, like.
• 1:52:27
  The Christian stories have been fantastic.
• 1:52:30
  Like they've obviously brought like and stretched out and made
• 1:52:33
  this fantastic. But like, even if you take that.
• 1:52:35
  And that's why I fucking hate this Christian shit so much.
• 1:52:37
  Like what they've done to Bridget and what they've done to
• 1:52:40
  all these kind of are, are old. Like they've made these stories
• 1:52:43
  that are kind of like they're unbelievable because they want
• 1:52:45
  to make an allegory over. They want to make a lesson over.
• 1:52:48
  But like, if you just think about this, these bunch of guys
• 1:52:51
  got into a fucking boat that they made with their hands.
• 1:52:54
  They traveled and they saw these sites that you'll that for the
• 1:52:57
  very first time that you'll ever see.
• 1:53:00
  Now, when we talk about did Columbus follow the footsteps of
• 1:53:04
  a of Sam, Brendan? Literally yes.
• 1:53:08
  Columbus has been to Ireland. Christopher Columbus went to
• 1:53:13
  Ireland. Has he heard about Brendan This
• 1:53:18
  Brendan's? Voice Guy.
• 1:53:19
  And that he said that there was a new land to the West and
• 1:53:25
  Columbus said I'm going to find this land.
• 1:53:27
  That he was there when Leif Erickson got to a Greenland and
• 1:53:33
  got to Iceland. He said this is documented by
• 1:53:36
  the way. So that Columbus thing
• 1:53:38
  documented. Leave Eric.
• 1:53:39
  Yeah, this guy who he did, who did the book in Scandinavian say
• 1:53:44
  got there before Columbus. Yeah.
• 1:53:46
  Well when he got to Iceland and Greenland, there was already a
• 1:53:50
  Irish monks. They're already documented.
• 1:53:54
  The Irish were there before the Yeah, the Scandinavians.
• 1:53:58
  So like when the when, yeah, the guy he's got there, obviously
• 1:54:02
  the Vikings brought over a shit lot of people because that's
• 1:54:05
  what they do, They invade. What the the Irish monks were
• 1:54:08
  doing were just settling down making.
• 1:54:10
  Monasteries. Small monasteries, yes.
• 1:54:12
  When the Scandinavians got there, they landed already.
• 1:54:15
  Irish people. But you know, we're making this
• 1:54:17
  fucking Denmark 2.0. Like what are whatever they're
• 1:54:21
  fucking from? Yeah, So Norway was Ericsson was
• 1:54:24
  from Norway? Fuck, I don't know.
• 1:54:26
  I think so you can't. All the fucking same, eh?
• 1:54:28
  Fucking storm. It is all they're.
• 1:54:30
  All fucking gorgeous blue eyed. Blonde haired cunts.
• 1:54:33
  They they so they settled over there, but they said there was
• 1:54:37
  Irish guys over there. Now there is this stories of umm
• 1:54:41
  in North America finding like all I'm writing, but that could
• 1:54:46
  be easily kind of a debunked. Yeah.
• 1:54:50
  That's that's contested, yeah. Like early on writing is
• 1:54:55
  basically just lines. Like they these could have been
• 1:54:58
  a native guy scratching their own lines.
• 1:55:00
  Yes, it could have been Native American.
• 1:55:02
  Easily. Easily, yeah.
• 1:55:04
  There is an island so like what? What again they would say is
• 1:55:08
  like Brendan got Newfoundland but he also sailed S Some say he
• 1:55:12
  got as far as South America. Now this is getting crazy, but
• 1:55:15
  like when they talk about these, Yeah.
• 1:55:17
  I. Just wouldn't go if I hit land
• 1:55:19
  after the longest time. I'm staying here, I don't care.
• 1:55:23
  There is an island called saying Brend the the Isle of saying
• 1:55:27
  Brendan, and that's yes. So that's what people are
• 1:55:30
  looking for this kind of stuff. I.
• 1:55:32
  Actually. Have them.
• 1:55:33
  So yeah, yeah. Like, again, whether whether or
• 1:55:36
  not he did get to the Americas, again, we'll never be able to
• 1:55:39
  prove that. We'll never realize that he did
• 1:55:41
  or he didn't. But the fact of the matter is he
• 1:55:45
  could have, because we've seen that it's literally.
• 1:55:48
  Doable. It's, yes.
• 1:55:50
  Completely popular, yeah. Absolutely plausible, and it has
• 1:55:55
  been proven that it could have been done.
• 1:55:57
  It's also proven that Columbus revered Brendan and was trying
• 1:56:05
  to follow in his, yeah, like, let's not say footsteps because
• 1:56:08
  he was going across the ocean. His ore steps.
• 1:56:11
  Which would make a lot of sense. Would make a lot of.
• 1:56:14
  Sense Anyways, eh ore swipes eh he was following these ore
• 1:56:18
  swipes and eh we also have documented eh proof from the eh
• 1:56:26
  Well, again is a proof or is it hearsay that like the the
• 1:56:30
  Scandinavian said that there was Irish settlers already on a lot
• 1:56:33
  of these islands on the way to the Americas.
• 1:56:35
  So again. Oh yeah, that's a huge thing.
• 1:56:39
  I'm not saying it's true, but I'm, I'm just saying when we get
• 1:56:42
  rid of all this Christian fantasy and we get down to the
• 1:56:46
  fucking nuts and bolts of this story, I, I do believe that he
• 1:56:52
  got to North America. So there are not not to not to
• 1:56:56
  bring it back to my sex life and.
• 1:56:58
  We're gonna. I.
• 1:56:59
  If. You can find a way you'll.
• 1:57:02
  Find a way and it. No, but it.
• 1:57:05
  No, no, no, to be fair, like so the one of the guys that I had
• 1:57:08
  been talking to you for a bit is from Norway and Norway, yeah.
• 1:57:14
  Or no. But basically there are a lot of
• 1:57:20
  different like Irish monuments and stuff in the town that he's
• 1:57:25
  from. So there's like there's a bunch
• 1:57:26
  of like different little like Irish named streets and things
• 1:57:31
  like that. I'll message him tonight.
• 1:57:33
  I'll actually ask him. Norway in Norway, Yeah.
• 1:57:37
  Basically like a lot of like little streets and things like
• 1:57:39
  that. There's like a town square
• 1:57:41
  that's after named after like some like some really fucking
• 1:57:45
  like some woman. I think it's, it's something
• 1:57:49
  like Cuiva or Cloda or some fucking Irish name.
• 1:57:55
  Yeah, some, some, some really Irish like woman name.
• 1:57:58
  But it's like, it's basically like, yeah.
• 1:58:00
  So he told me he was like, Oh yeah.
• 1:58:02
  There's like a bunch of stuff like from where I'm from, like
• 1:58:04
  in Norway that's like, umm, obviously isn't like the major
• 1:58:07
  fucking cities and stuff, but he umm his family own like a
• 1:58:12
  fucking lake house somewhere. But there's a lot of like little
• 1:58:15
  kind of Irish, Irish names. Very.
• 1:58:18
  Interested in the whole way why there would be Irish influence
• 1:58:22
  in a place that would, as you know, like we.
• 1:58:25
  I think it's just there was probably like a back and forth,
• 1:58:28
  you know, like they maybe there was like some, you know, Vikings
• 1:58:31
  or just people from there that came over to me.
• 1:58:34
  And the game. Power.
• 1:58:36
  They did bring a lot of Irish slaves back to Scandinavia, so I
• 1:58:40
  wonder. If it is.
• 1:58:41
  I mean, that's that's a probably is it?
• 1:58:43
  But like, yeah, it was he he yeah, he was basically saying
• 1:58:47
  that was not like just a bunch of like Irish named things like
• 1:58:51
  and streets and like villages and and stuff like that.
• 1:58:54
  And then I think there was something to do with I I will
• 1:58:58
  find it out. I'll actually message him
• 1:58:59
  tonight. Umm, I probably shouldn't
• 1:59:01
  because he plays on the same team of the current guy that.
• 1:59:04
  I'm talking to. No, I'm not, No.
• 1:59:08
  But I'm no. But apparently it was something.
• 1:59:10
  It was something to do with. No, I I don't care.
• 1:59:12
  Yeah, I have. Yeah, I'm talking power to you
• 1:59:14
  and. But it was.
• 1:59:16
  Fucking. Thank.
• 1:59:18
  You. That's the world we should live.
• 1:59:19
  In Thank You fucking. Right, who you like.
• 1:59:22
  But apparently it was something to do with there was like a
• 1:59:26
  political thing where you're one who the streets were named after
• 1:59:32
  was actually shagging two different, Oh my God, it is me.
• 1:59:35
  We're shagging two different political leaders.
• 1:59:38
  And they both loved her. So I think she had at one point
• 1:59:41
  like a 10 town named after and at the other point she just had
• 1:59:45
  a few streets named after her because.
• 1:59:47
  I think that Irish women are the original Trump's Pixie dream
• 1:59:51
  girl. Is that what it is?
• 1:59:52
  Whores. Manic Pixie dream girls.
• 1:59:55
  These like distant looking out into the fucking Atlantic Ocean.
• 2:00:01
  Sad, uh, pale women. We all just dig that.
• 2:00:05
  That's that's exactly it. You just hit the nail.
• 2:00:07
  We're just basic, plain sad looking women, but apparently
• 2:00:12
  men love that just. Interesting.
• 2:00:14
  Pale fucking like. And.
• 2:00:18
  I I. Personally, if I was a man, I
• 2:00:20
  would be like, give me a Brazilian woman.
• 2:00:22
  Give me the brown eyes, the tan skin, the fatter.
• 2:00:26
  That's a, that's what my friends used to say about the type of
• 2:00:29
  women that I was into. They're just like, you're into
• 2:00:31
  like pale and interesting women. And I was like.
• 2:00:33
  Yeah. Interesting is a fantastic
• 2:00:36
  description. I remember like talking like
• 2:00:38
  some my ex and stuff like his, his like one of his best
• 2:00:41
  friends. He's Oh yeah.
• 2:00:42
  He's always been into like pasty, busty women.
• 2:00:45
  I'm like, excuse me, like, Oh yeah, like you don't know your
• 2:00:50
  tits are massive. And I was like.
• 2:00:51
  Wenches. I get like basically Tavern
• 2:00:55
  wenches. That's how I describe myself.
• 2:00:58
  I'm a Tavern wench anyway. Oh, Sheena's you're Mrs. Irish
• 2:01:00
  she is. She's from Cork.
• 2:01:02
  Oh Cork onion. So she's not Irish, she's from
• 2:01:05
  the Peoples Republic. She's from a different country
• 2:01:07
  within Ireland. Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 2:01:09
  very good. Very good.
• 2:01:10
  I can't say anything because that woman is my boss, so.
• 2:01:19
  A wonderful, pale, interesting woman.
• 2:01:24
  The first day that I started in the company that I worked for
• 2:01:27
  and I searched, I searched her name in the the Slack, the
• 2:01:31
  company Slack. She is the only person of that
• 2:01:34
  name in the entire organization. I mentioned she and I was like,
• 2:01:38
  did you know she's the only. She's the only fiddle DD and all
• 2:01:42
  of the of course I. Did.
• 2:01:47
  And then I was like and then like I was.
• 2:01:50
  Weeks later then I was, I was sat and I was just like talk to
• 2:01:53
  my manager and stuff. And we got talking about like,
• 2:01:55
  or Sheen and his wife. And I was like, Oh, yeah, and
• 2:01:58
  she's the only like, Karen. We'll just say, Karen, whatever.
• 2:02:02
  The person with that name. Yeah, she's the only Karen in
• 2:02:04
  the whole organization. And he was like, oh really?
• 2:02:06
  Like, who is she? And then he searched it and
• 2:02:09
  there was one new joiner, a new joiner by like 2 weeks that had
• 2:02:14
  the same name. And I was like, I was outraged.
• 2:02:17
  I was like, no, not my Karen. That's not the girl that I.
• 2:02:21
  Want in the fucking directory and he went through and he was
• 2:02:24
  like, oh, she's still in graduate, she might get sacked
• 2:02:27
  yet. I was like, I hope.
• 2:02:28
  She is there a conclusion? Wow.
• 2:02:32
  No, let me get here. Sorry.
• 2:02:33
  Who are you? Love each other.
• 2:02:35
  Irish people love each other. So go on.
• 2:02:38
  Irish. Irish people do love each other.
• 2:02:40
  Same. Brendan's Island.
• 2:02:42
  So for centuries. And Brendan's Island actually
• 2:02:44
  appeared on real maps and explorers like Christopher
• 2:02:48
  Columbus were looking for it. So Columbus was fully aware of
• 2:02:53
  Eric, Guy, Brendan and deeper meaning.
• 2:02:56
  So the voyage is a ocean health. This is Latin, so let's listen
• 2:03:01
  to her struggle. Can't wait.
• 2:03:04
  That's why I just. Please.
• 2:03:06
  OK I don't know how to do it. No watching please.
• 2:03:09
  I'm I'm gonna guess, I'm gonna guess it's like para para
• 2:03:12
  granacio, pro Christian. Hold on, let me, let me have a
• 2:03:15
  guess on this one. Right, because I like it about.
• 2:03:18
  Was it peregrinacio? I'm not gonna look at that.
• 2:03:20
  Peregrinacio. Pro Christian, is that what
• 2:03:22
  you're saying? Yeah.
• 2:03:24
  So, well, I mean, Latin is pretty fucking easy.
• 2:03:28
  It's basically the rule, The rule language of every fucking
• 2:03:32
  language in Europe, yeah. Half of European language.
• 2:03:35
  Is obviously going to be for pro Christ.
• 2:03:38
  Yeah. So like for Christ.
• 2:03:40
  Oh, Perry, Perry Gracias. Is that what it is that you
• 2:03:44
  said, Perigracio? Perigrano.
• 2:03:48
  Perigrano, Grenada. Grenada.
• 2:03:51
  Grenada, Grenada. It's in Granada Island.
• 2:03:55
  No, here I am. It Cam.
• 2:04:02
  Grenada. So it's, it's a word that's
• 2:04:04
  very, it's a, it's a word that's very relevant to Brendan.
• 2:04:11
  Wandering. Wandering for Christ.
• 2:04:13
  Yeah, Granada. There we go.
• 2:04:14
  Wandering for Christ. An order piss.
• 2:04:17
  So anyway, they were all wandering for Christ.
• 2:04:19
  Whatever. It wasn't just about the
• 2:04:21
  destination. It was about the vibes, umm, of
• 2:04:24
  total surrender to the waves. It's a metaphor for the
• 2:04:29
  spiritual journey. Sometimes you're on a whale and
• 2:04:33
  sometimes you're in a storm, but you just keep sailing, dude.
• 2:04:38
  It's like the. Hero's Journey, you know, it's
• 2:04:40
  that, that classic story. It's, you know, like there's a
• 2:04:43
  series of trials and tribulations.
• 2:04:46
  There are encounters with gods, there are encounters with old
• 2:04:49
  gods. And and then you through your
• 2:04:52
  current faith and you know, your can do spirit can achieve, you
• 2:04:59
  know, can like yeah, no, but that's all these stories.
• 2:05:02
  It's that thing you're like, you know, the no.
• 2:05:03
  No, I get that. The Yeah, the indomitable spirit
• 2:05:07
  of man. So, umm, the, the manuscript
• 2:05:12
  tradition. So the, I guess we're going to
• 2:05:15
  get into the, the paper trail basically is what we're going to
• 2:05:18
  get into. So the bestseller status, there
• 2:05:21
  are over 120 surviving Latin manuscripts of the navigate show
• 2:05:27
  from the Middle Ages. It was translated into Old
• 2:05:32
  French, Middle English, Low German and even Old Norse.
• 2:05:36
  I fucked a few low Germans I would have to say.
• 2:05:40
  Actually. So Jinx.
• 2:05:51
  So while it's about a 6th century St. the version we have
• 2:05:55
  was likely written down in the 9th century by an expatriate
• 2:06:00
  Irish monk in Europe, possibly in what is now Germany or
• 2:06:06
  France. And it wasn't just a travelogue,
• 2:06:09
  it was a liturgical manual that the monks perform specific
• 2:06:15
  prayers and rituals for at every island, showing that God's time
• 2:06:22
  is more important than human time.
• 2:06:25
  I don't understand that because like, of course it's going to
• 2:06:27
  take you like fucking seven years to sail from Ireland to
• 2:06:31
  Canada in a shoe. But it's just, it's the, it's
• 2:06:35
  the pilgrimage, you know, and it's the, it's you.
• 2:06:38
  You were doing it. You were doing.
• 2:06:39
  It for God, no. One how do to do?
• 2:06:42
  That though pilgrimages. Look, it's me also.
• 2:06:45
  Going to do in the 9th century. There's.
• 2:06:48
  Nothing else to do. Fuck bitches get money.
• 2:06:51
  Like, I don't know. What it's about, It's not about
• 2:06:53
  the destination. It's about this journey.
• 2:06:55
  It's about what you learn about yourself along the way.
• 2:06:56
  Yeah, it's about the journey, about the friends we made along
• 2:06:59
  the way. Don't lose.
• 2:07:00
  That have sex with different sexes that makes you learn a lot
• 2:07:04
  about. Yourself.
• 2:07:07
  Eat different. Foods do different fucking
• 2:07:09
  things. This is the thing men were so
• 2:07:11
  dramatic back in those days. It's just like, Oh yeah, I'm
• 2:07:13
  going to sail into the fucking darkness to discover myself.
• 2:07:16
  You just want to get pegged like that's just where your fucking
• 2:07:19
  brain is. You'll be fine if you just stay
• 2:07:22
  in fucking. I will punch myself in here
• 2:07:25
  right and fuck you, because that's exactly what the fuck
• 2:07:27
  should have happened. He just just stay on your oil
• 2:07:30
  and get pegged. Do whatever the fuck you want to
• 2:07:33
  discover that you you know what I actually kind of like
• 2:07:35
  electroshock herpy on my balls. And then you'll be happy and
• 2:07:38
  you'll fucking stay. You don't have to go fucking
• 2:07:41
  like sailing into the darkness and I'm so tired.
• 2:07:45
  I don't think tired is the problem.
• 2:07:48
  It's the male desire to sail into the darkness.
• 2:07:52
  That's what it is. I'm like.
• 2:07:53
  Do you know what the problem is? Baby.
• 2:07:58
  It's. Good and nice, Good and the
• 2:08:01
  idea. Of this is.
• 2:08:04
  See that or she's not to come back in.
• 2:08:08
  All right, you know, I know, you know, basically what I mean is I
• 2:08:13
  feel like this whole journey and stuff like that, it doesn't
• 2:08:19
  really dawn on a person all of that often to basically be like
• 2:08:24
  to be that consumed with unhappiness in your surroundings
• 2:08:30
  that you're just like, no, I'm, I'm going to go into that
• 2:08:33
  fucking darkness that everyone's terrified of, which that's what
• 2:08:37
  I will say person Brendan is that that that was brave as
• 2:08:39
  fuck. Because, like, who else is going
• 2:08:41
  to? Do that.
• 2:08:42
  They're like, Oh yeah, we just don't go over there because it's
• 2:08:44
  in the. Dark in the 9th century, like
• 2:08:46
  everything, essentially. Led to dark scary Yes, it's a.
• 2:08:50
  Century. Scary 9th century as well.
• 2:08:51
  Like, you know, 9th century is well at the time. 6th century.
• 2:08:53
  Sorry, sorry. Oh, that's when the story was
• 2:08:55
  told. So like 6th century, like, you
• 2:08:57
  know, everything is everything leads to death, Yes.
• 2:09:01
  You have to be completely fucking prepared for that.
• 2:09:04
  And he clearly was the like. 14 to. 60 apparently.
• 2:09:10
  But it's that thing of like, you know, everything leads to death,
• 2:09:12
  everything leads to hardship, and we may as well do something
• 2:09:15
  fucking cool with the time that we have.
• 2:09:17
  And I, you know, love that. I I think that's so fucking
• 2:09:21
  awesome. I I do feel like it's like
• 2:09:23
  everybody else in the whole fucking time, Like it wasn't
• 2:09:25
  just the I'll I'll beat you to fucking death.
• 2:09:28
  You really, if you're Royer isn't me One more time, I swear
• 2:09:31
  I'll kill you. I just mean it takes.
• 2:09:35
  I'm trying to jump in to talk about specific.
• 2:09:37
  Things you're talking about, but I'm still on the hero's journey
• 2:09:40
  or someone jumping into the fucking abyss.
• 2:09:42
  I want to talk about stuff you're talking about, but you
• 2:09:44
  just will not fucking take a breath and let me jump in here.
• 2:09:47
  We're talking about God's a minute ago.
• 2:09:48
  Like why you didn't travel around for seven years, why you
• 2:09:51
  didn't said, why you was said, why you took seven years.
• 2:09:53
  I'm trying to expand why it took seven years.
• 2:09:54
  Beautiful. I just want to make this one
• 2:09:56
  point. It took seven years because
• 2:09:59
  according to the story they could have got there in the
• 2:10:03
  first year, but God was needed them to get all these trials so
• 2:10:08
  that they would learn all these lessons before he just opened up
• 2:10:12
  the way. So all she was saying about the
• 2:10:14
  hero's journey and I want to make a whole U-turn back.
• 2:10:17
  I'll probably let Danny talking for another for the 10 minutes
• 2:10:19
  before fucking raid some fucking Jewish lad now or whatever it
• 2:10:22
  was. Oh my God.
• 2:10:23
  Fucking but eh, fucking Hulkin actually takes from fucking
• 2:10:30
  Brendan from his hero stories and he literally does as well.
• 2:10:33
  There's like this. It's, it's actually well
• 2:10:35
  documented as well and a bunch of other writers as well.
• 2:10:38
  And what anyways, but this the, the, the Christian story of this
• 2:10:43
  hero's trial that he ended up doing all these kind of
• 2:10:45
  fantastic, amazing things. And he saw all this stuff and he
• 2:10:48
  learned his lessons along the way.
• 2:10:50
  And eventually he found his way into this island that was
• 2:10:55
  shrouded and missed what it was there all along.
• 2:10:58
  What the idea was that the island was accessible to him
• 2:11:04
  because it wasn't his time to go there yet, according to God,
• 2:11:09
  God, God saw him and had to have him have all these trials.
• 2:11:13
  And this is this old guy, Yes? And then he's.
• 2:11:16
  This old guy Paul who buried Saint Patrick, he explains this
• 2:11:19
  to him that the reason why you've had Easter on a whales
• 2:11:24
  back every year and why you've done Christmas in the same spot
• 2:11:27
  off this fucking course of this island every year is because you
• 2:11:30
  had to learn these lessons before you could find this land
• 2:11:33
  of the Saints that you were supposed to get to.
• 2:11:36
  So this is the idea of it's it's not about they just got on to
• 2:11:41
  this. They got into the sea and the
• 2:11:42
  wander around like bumbling idiots for seven years.
• 2:11:45
  It was they had to learn their lessons and go through their
• 2:11:47
  hero story and reach their arc before they could get to their
• 2:11:51
  destination. So it's about it's about
• 2:11:53
  learning on your journey. It's a learning.
• 2:11:56
  The Promised land of Saints is within us all along well.
• 2:11:59
  It's the promised land of Saints is the friends you met along.
• 2:12:02
  With like that's it. So.
• 2:12:05
  Umm, I don't even know where we left off here so.
• 2:12:09
  Engineering of the The Couric. Yes, the engineering, because
• 2:12:15
  yeah, that got real deep and spiritual for a bit.
• 2:12:17
  Like I just. I just wanted to say, I just
• 2:12:20
  wanted to jump in and be like, yes, I agree with you, no.
• 2:12:25
  No way they were it's it's it's cool.
• 2:12:29
  So the engineering of the Couric, the boat is the star of
• 2:12:35
  the show. Obviously, you can't just call
• 2:12:36
  it a boat. You have to talk about the
• 2:12:39
  tensile strength. So leather versus wood, unlike
• 2:12:44
  Viking long ships, which were rigid wood, a Kirk is flexible
• 2:12:49
  when a massive Atlantic wave hits it, the leather skin and
• 2:12:52
  Willow frame flex and absorb the energy rather than cracking.
• 2:12:57
  When you have like the the Vikings and stuff coming over,
• 2:13:00
  they're not sailing across the fucking bare ass Atlantic, you
• 2:13:05
  know what I mean? That's it's a lot more.
• 2:13:07
  Yes, freaking built for seafaring and for actually
• 2:13:12
  travelling up. Like, basically there were
• 2:13:15
  invasion ships, so like, they could go up rivers in these
• 2:13:17
  things, Yeah. Yeah, like up rivers and yeah.
• 2:13:20
  Yeah, so they weren't, they weren't exactly fucking like.
• 2:13:23
  And again, like the Atlantic Ocean, especially the North
• 2:13:26
  Atlantic, like whatever time of year is harsh and rough, it's
• 2:13:30
  not it. That's not the case.
• 2:13:32
  So the tanning process, the oxides were tanned with oak bark
• 2:13:40
  rich in tannin to make them waterproof and rot resistance
• 2:13:44
  because I guess like you're out on fucking salt water, it's
• 2:13:47
  going to happen pretty quickly. They were then smeared with
• 2:13:51
  tallow, which is animal fat. Supposed to be very good for
• 2:13:56
  your skin. As well and then the.
• 2:13:57
  Everyone uses tallow now, isn't? It I have literally I have a
• 2:14:04
  moisturizer that's just beef tallow cleared the shit.
• 2:14:09
  It's really, really good. It's like awesome.
• 2:14:11
  It's very expensive, but. Good.
• 2:14:13
  They're like the leather process like which is still used is you
• 2:14:16
  just soak it piss. So like it's just when I was
• 2:14:19
  reading this I was just like, this would have just stank of
• 2:14:22
  piss. So like, you know, like where we
• 2:14:24
  have our old English names, like Smith comes from people who
• 2:14:27
  Smith it and stuff like that. Yeah, Cooper comes black.
• 2:14:30
  People who made. Barrels.
• 2:14:32
  Fletcher comes from people who made arrows.
• 2:14:34
  You know anyone by the name of Walker?
• 2:14:36
  Your job was the walk piss into letter.
• 2:14:40
  So the ammonia in their piss softens the left, softens the
• 2:14:45
  cow hides and makes them into letter.
• 2:14:47
  And these people that used to basically get into vats and
• 2:14:51
  barrels and just, eh, soften their cow hide with their feet
• 2:14:56
  by just walking on them. They were called walkers.
• 2:14:58
  And then anyone with the second. So if you're eating a pack of
• 2:15:01
  crisps, the people who, uh, who made those crisps walkers
• 2:15:05
  crisps, their names are their names because they walked piss
• 2:15:08
  into a coward. Oh I love.
• 2:15:11
  That that's cool. There's a fact.
• 2:15:12
  That's awesome. Well, yes, like the, the tallow
• 2:15:15
  thing is like huge as well. Like I have like a like beef
• 2:15:19
  tallow. It's like a tiny little tub, but
• 2:15:21
  it's like £36 or something It's like it's expensive, but like
• 2:15:24
  again, it's so greasy and rich that you need like a tiny amount
• 2:15:29
  of it And like I, I guess that's why it's like, you know, sought
• 2:15:33
  after basically like you kind of you don't really need to use a
• 2:15:37
  lot of it. So the Lamolin secret.
• 2:15:41
  So Tim Severin discovered that the fat and grease actually
• 2:15:47
  reacted with the salt water to create a seal that was better
• 2:15:52
  than a modern synthetic coatings of the time.
• 2:15:56
  Now this is the thing. So it's like, so he had set off
• 2:16:01
  basically just not putting into place any, any modern anything.
• 2:16:07
  He his point was to set sail just basically building a Kirk
• 2:16:12
  from what they would have done. At that time it was proved that
• 2:16:16
  it was made. There was sails and all on this
• 2:16:18
  thing like, so it wasn't just like you're normally a little
• 2:16:22
  like it was built for Oceanic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:16:26
  But what I will say is that the materials that he had used
• 2:16:31
  obviously had evolved a lot from that time of Saint Brendan.
• 2:16:36
  Like, yeah. Like it was he was getting like
• 2:16:38
  the closest approximation. Yes, yeah.
• 2:16:41
  So he. To to those materials.
• 2:16:43
  Basically to trying to be as historically accurate as
• 2:16:46
  possible to do it. And he did it.
• 2:16:49
  He actually did it. He sells it all the way through.
• 2:16:52
  He lived. It took him how?
• 2:16:55
  Long to take. Him, I've just refreshed my
• 2:16:57
  name. 13 months, right? So when you look at that and
• 2:17:00
  then you look back to Saint Brendan's seven years, I mean,
• 2:17:07
  if they're finding and like one thing that I will say for that
• 2:17:10
  whole kind of point is if you're seeing a fucking iceberg for the
• 2:17:16
  first time ever and you're like, Oh my God, it's a pillar of
• 2:17:20
  fucking magic, you're going to take a little bit longer to look
• 2:17:23
  at things. You know what I mean?
• 2:17:24
  Everything is going to be like a bit of a fucking like new
• 2:17:27
  stretch. You like, you're basically
• 2:17:28
  sailing into the fucking underworld.
• 2:17:30
  You don't know what the fuck you're looking at.
• 2:17:32
  So seven years, yeah, maybe a stretch to do it.
• 2:17:35
  And like, when you compare it to like 13 months, it's all so
• 2:17:40
  fucking new. It's.
• 2:17:41
  All like did he land on places and stay there for a while?
• 2:17:45
  Like, you know, again, these the stories of them circling around
• 2:17:48
  for seven years. Is this Christian story of like,
• 2:17:51
  how would you know think the way they talk about how it went down
• 2:17:54
  was he circled around and after seven years God was like, yeah,
• 2:17:57
  you've learned enough and now you can go to the to this land
• 2:18:00
  or like. Yeah.
• 2:18:02
  Probably like according to the story, they could have done it
• 2:18:05
  in a year if their hearts were open.
• 2:18:07
  If their hearts are. Open and they're full of love,
• 2:18:09
  then everything is possible. But yeah, so basically the
• 2:18:15
  deeper meaning then the void is a we.
• 2:18:20
  We said that word. It's fine.
• 2:18:22
  Negotiator. So you're up to where were they
• 2:18:27
  actually? Geographic reconstruction.
• 2:18:30
  Actually, historians and enthusiasts have tried to map
• 2:18:34
  Brendan's seven-year loop onto a modern map of the North
• 2:18:38
  Atlantic. This is often called the
• 2:18:41
  stepping stone root. So this is the root breakdown.
• 2:18:47
  So #1 the island of sheep, likely the Pharaoh Islands.
• 2:18:52
  Umm, the name actually comes from the Old Norse for Sheep
• 2:18:57
  Island to the paradise of birds. Also the Pharaohs or the
• 2:19:03
  Hebrides. Hebrides.
• 2:19:06
  Well, Eater Hebrides. Hebrides, the cliffs are home to
• 2:19:11
  millions of puffins and Ghana, the island of Smiths, which is
• 2:19:16
  Iceland. The demons and fiery slag
• 2:19:19
  perfectly described the volcanic activity of the Mid-Atlantic
• 2:19:24
  Ridge. And before then we have the
• 2:19:27
  crystal pillar and iceberg drifting down from the Arctic
• 2:19:32
  Circle #5 the coagulated sea, the Sargasso Sea, or the Grand
• 2:19:39
  Banks of Newfoundland where heavy fog and sludge ice make
• 2:19:44
  the water look thick. And then number six, the
• 2:19:48
  promised land, Newfoundland or Nova Scotia.
• 2:19:52
  The wide river mentioned at the end is often argued to be the
• 2:19:57
  Saint Lawrence River. Yeah, so they get to this spoken
• 2:20:01
  river and then. They say to cross that river
• 2:20:04
  would be another adventure and we need to turn back now.
• 2:20:08
  So like they told, they said how vast the like when they got to
• 2:20:13
  the end, they said this land is too vast for us to keep
• 2:20:17
  travelling on. So then that makes sense that
• 2:20:20
  like, they've been to places that, like, again, all these
• 2:20:24
  places were like islands that you wouldn't say are vast.
• 2:20:28
  Like, even Iceland, Like, yeah, if they would have gone around
• 2:20:31
  the course for a while, they would have realized, OK, this is
• 2:20:34
  an island. It's not a huge landmass, yeah.
• 2:20:36
  But when they got to this last place where they say they get to
• 2:20:40
  a place where the river is actually bigger than some of the
• 2:20:45
  places that you know, where they've landed, like So when
• 2:20:49
  they looked at, eh, when they looked on the maps, this Saint
• 2:20:53
  Lawrence River, the mouth of it, if you look at it, it's like a
• 2:20:57
  fucking almost like, you know, a sea in itself where it actually
• 2:21:03
  comes out to meet the to to meet the ocean.
• 2:21:06
  It's this massive river mouth like.
• 2:21:09
  That's like a, a scary fucking thing about America is that you
• 2:21:12
  got like Lake MI and like Victorian stuff.
• 2:21:14
  They look like the sea. They're fucking massive.
• 2:21:17
  They've got fucking. Massive bodies of water, like
• 2:21:19
  they don't look like lakes. Yeah, yeah, it's the tides.
• 2:21:22
  Yeah. Because like the, like the
• 2:21:24
  Lawrence, like it goes into like the Gulf of Saint Lawrence.
• 2:21:27
  And we're talking about like, you know, the Gulf as part of a,
• 2:21:30
  a continent, like it is just enormous.
• 2:21:33
  So the breakdown of Brendan versus Columbus, basically, did
• 2:21:41
  he get there first? So the Saint Brendan Stone in
• 2:21:45
  West Virginia of all fucking mountain Mama.
• 2:21:51
  There are Ogum carvings that some claim are 6th to 10th
• 2:21:58
  century Irish. Most mainstream archaeologists
• 2:22:02
  think that these are natural markings are much later hoaxes,
• 2:22:08
  but a huge talking point for Cree Cree Colombian.
• 2:22:13
  Sorry, contact theorists. And then we have the papar.
• 2:22:19
  Did we say papar? I have no idea what you're
• 2:22:21
  looking at. PAPAOPAPA or papar Papar.
• 2:22:26
  Paper. Paper.
• 2:22:28
  Paper in Iceland. When the Vikings arrived in
• 2:22:32
  Iceland 870 AD, they found Irish monks called Papa already there.
• 2:22:40
  If Irish monks were in Iceland, they were only a few 100 miles
• 2:22:44
  from Greenland, and from there it's a short hop to Canada.
• 2:22:49
  So yeah, we've been everywhere. We've been everywhere and people
• 2:22:52
  just find us and then they're just like, well, we're going to
• 2:22:55
  claim this, but these weird dudes were already here.
• 2:22:58
  There's already labor. It is.
• 2:22:59
  It is definitely, yeah, yeah. But it is definitely that thing
• 2:23:03
  of like, you know, Irish people we love, we love the story of
• 2:23:06
  like we did that first. We were involved in that.
• 2:23:09
  Force it. We're also just like, well,
• 2:23:11
  like, oh, like this country is claiming it.
• 2:23:13
  We're like, yeah, OK, fine. Yeah.
• 2:23:17
  So. She seems.
• 2:23:18
  Like she really needs it. It's nice that you think that
• 2:23:21
  you did that. 1st of course it's.
• 2:23:24
  Actually, the Irish who did that.
• 2:23:25
  Just let her fucking have it like Bigger did.
• 2:23:28
  You know did. You know that the Irish did that
• 2:23:30
  first. I guess you didn't.
• 2:23:32
  That's a. Huge.
• 2:23:33
  Irish, it's an Irish thing. It's just like, Oh yeah, what
• 2:23:35
  she does, she's like, well, let's just fucking let her have
• 2:23:37
  it. Like it's grand.
• 2:23:38
  You, you know the truth. And that's a huge Irish thing.
• 2:23:42
  It's like, well, we know and that's all that matters, but
• 2:23:45
  like. What do you guys?
• 2:23:46
  I think we found all of this shit before anyone else.
• 2:23:50
  I really do. I think we got so curious and so
• 2:23:53
  like we're tiny little fucking island who would probably be
• 2:23:57
  full of people who got really fucking bored.
• 2:24:00
  I was I wonder how far it could actually go before I absolutely
• 2:24:03
  have to turn back we. Had we had the technology, yes,
• 2:24:08
  we had the skills. Like he was a great navigator.
• 2:24:11
  Like he was definitely like, you don't go.
• 2:24:14
  I'm not even finished. By the way, with notes.
• 2:24:17
  But the skill of it, you know and you don't you.
• 2:24:20
  Have to have a you. You have to be skilled.
• 2:24:23
  To go anywhere skill and the the technology was there for the
• 2:24:26
  time to do it. So, yeah, I, I fully believe
• 2:24:29
  that like we had, you know, the historical figure of Saint
• 2:24:33
  Brendan did like, go across all these islands and make his way
• 2:24:37
  around. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:24:38
  For sure, I think so. I I do.
• 2:24:40
  What about you? Just did you think?
• 2:24:42
  I, I think it's quite plausible. I think that the, the, the thing
• 2:24:47
  that throws kind of shade on all of this is the fact that the
• 2:24:52
  Christians bastardized the story into this like bunch of mini
• 2:24:58
  stories that people obviously go, Oh yeah, well, it's all
• 2:25:01
  bollocks, isn't it? But like if you scratch away at
• 2:25:04
  that and then as Ocean says, you talk about the fact that it the
• 2:25:09
  technology is there, that they could have done it.
• 2:25:11
  It's been proven that they could have done it and easy that If
• 2:25:16
  we've got as far as Iceland then why couldn't we have got a
• 2:25:20
  little bit further? Because like Iceland into
• 2:25:22
  Greenland is not that big of a jump.
• 2:25:25
  Yeah, if you've already done like the West of Ireland to
• 2:25:28
  Iceland, you. Have to look at like the the
• 2:25:31
  again, the time of year they set out the conditions of the
• 2:25:34
  Atlantic all the time. It's it's fucking pretty calm.
• 2:25:38
  It's like you're not going to fucking run into too many
• 2:25:40
  problems. Like it's the same as, yeah.
• 2:25:42
  But as you know, you, you, you're know, it's kind of
• 2:25:45
  convinced me there a little bit, Danny, when it starts explaining
• 2:25:48
  the, the, the ball itself and how like it's not one of these
• 2:25:51
  timber shifts that that's going to be thrown around because it's
• 2:25:54
  the bridges, because it was more of a pliable ship that actually
• 2:25:58
  roll like literally roll with the the the waves, roll with the
• 2:26:03
  punches on the Atlantic. Like built.
• 2:26:05
  To withstand and now do I think it could have fucking been out
• 2:26:09
  in certain times a year? No, absolutely not like you
• 2:26:12
  you're going to get crushed in half.
• 2:26:14
  It's the Atlantic Ocean. Maybe if the the like.
• 2:26:16
  This island hopping way that they're that they've done it
• 2:26:19
  sounds plausible to be able. To bring it in like it's a yeah,
• 2:26:23
  it's, it's a logical way to do it because like you're not just
• 2:26:25
  committing to like 11 very long journey.
• 2:26:28
  Yeah, exactly that. And it's even a case of it's
• 2:26:31
  like if you're, if you are going from fucking place to place and
• 2:26:35
  as the seasons change, maybe the sea is getting rougher, things
• 2:26:38
  like that. Like you dock in a port and then
• 2:26:40
  you're kind of like, fuck, like we need to like, you know,
• 2:26:42
  reinforce this. We need to add some of this so
• 2:26:45
  that we don't get fucking. Yeah.
• 2:26:46
  And they're all says they're going.
• 2:26:48
  Exactly. They're waiting out for several
• 2:26:50
  weeks in different villages to wait out.
• 2:26:52
  You know what I mean? This kind of energy, like the
• 2:26:54
  fact that it took seven years, like.
• 2:26:57
  Yeah, I, I fully believe that maybe it was like a case of
• 2:26:59
  like, we'll stop and we'll start and we'll stop and we'll start
• 2:27:02
  like. Well, they don't even know what
• 2:27:03
  year he set off. They were like, exactly.
• 2:27:05
  Could have been between 6:12 and 6:40.
• 2:27:08
  Yeah, so exactly. It's like nearly 30 years of a
• 2:27:11
  window. Yes.
• 2:27:12
  And then again, seven years is just this fucking number.
• 2:27:16
  So like, I don't think we should really pick that.
• 2:27:19
  They were out there for seven years.
• 2:27:20
  I don't believe they could have been out there for 3-4 years.
• 2:27:22
  Whatever. Yeah, because exactly because of
• 2:27:24
  the Christians. I don't think they were the
• 2:27:26
  seven for seven at all. Yeah, so the Christians just
• 2:27:30
  wanted this to be 7 years because, you know, the the
• 2:27:33
  number 7 again and the. Number of look and yeah,
• 2:27:36
  whenever. They stopped off in places, they
• 2:27:38
  stopped off for like 40 nights because they loved this fucking
• 2:27:41
  40 again. And it's the same like, you
• 2:27:43
  know, the three days and three nights because they love the
• 2:27:45
  tree. So like, it's just these, these
• 2:27:47
  repetitive numbers to keep coming true.
• 2:27:48
  And Christianity is 37 and 40. And I think that seven years is
• 2:27:53
  just a number that the Christians looked out of fucking
• 2:27:55
  study because they're like using this seven years.
• 2:27:57
  Yeah. You've got 7 and you've got 3,
• 2:27:59
  which are the the huge points, and then seven and three make 10
• 2:28:03
  and 10 is completion. That is a huge, a huge thing
• 2:28:08
  when it comes to Christianity and witchcraft.
• 2:28:10
  Speaking of completion, Danny, what?
• 2:28:12
  Let's bring us home with these noughts.
• 2:28:14
  That's. I'm not even like, again, it's
• 2:28:18
  going to open a whole thing. But we can go into iconography
• 2:28:22
  and symbols here, right? So the will so just conious that
• 2:28:27
  we we talked about in the beginning symbolizes the
• 2:28:31
  unreliable nature of the material world, which I don't
• 2:28:36
  think that he was the best example of that because I mean,
• 2:28:43
  I'm sure they ran into a lot more fucking pressing issues
• 2:28:45
  than just a whale. It was.
• 2:28:47
  Just like. Hey, your BBQ is too high like.
• 2:28:49
  They did end up using, not using, but they didn't end up
• 2:28:52
  like working with the whale, just going as the whale as well.
• 2:28:56
  Yeah, this thing as well as like unpredictable, eh, nature as
• 2:29:00
  well. It's like they went out whatever
• 2:29:02
  you believe, you can't even believe your eyes like so when
• 2:29:05
  you go on to this journey and all isn't what it seems so like
• 2:29:10
  they thought they were on an island and really, guys, fuck
• 2:29:13
  you. You're not on an island.
• 2:29:15
  You're on a way. You're not, and you're on the.
• 2:29:17
  Basis. So many after so many years that
• 2:29:21
  they they as ocean is saying by the end of it, they're now is it
• 2:29:26
  that they're closer to nature and now they can work with
• 2:29:28
  nature, that nature actually works with them a little bit,
• 2:29:31
  yes, so. To to again, like just to pull
• 2:29:34
  it back to that point, the number 3, which is a huge, a
• 2:29:38
  huge theme and everything that we've been talking about today.
• 2:29:41
  So Brandon often takes 14 monks, which is 2 by 7.
• 2:29:47
  But three latecomers, we'll say, I know that you, you know, non
• 2:29:53
  believers, but latecomers, these three represent different types
• 2:29:58
  of spiritual failure. One is the thief, etcetera.
• 2:30:03
  So there's they're just not nice dudes like criminals basically,
• 2:30:09
  which adds A morality play element to the adventure.
• 2:30:14
  So yeah, I think again, that is a another huge thing where it's
• 2:30:19
  like if you've got people who are like, you've got 14 monks,
• 2:30:21
  we'll say Max better ones be like, I will follow you into the
• 2:30:25
  fucking dark and I'll do whatever you want to do because
• 2:30:28
  I know that this is the right thing to do.
• 2:30:29
  This is like, you know, we're going to end up on the on the,
• 2:30:33
  the, the better side of history. And then you've also got three,
• 2:30:37
  like we'll say criminals, I guess maybe you.
• 2:30:41
  Give it it's three. It's three guys who are like
• 2:30:45
  normal people and they're not. Clear, but at that time they
• 2:30:48
  would. Have been on the spiritual
• 2:30:49
  journey. Yeah, they're they're there
• 2:30:51
  almost to make the the monks look even more special.
• 2:30:56
  Yeah, they were. There is.
• 2:30:58
  That your. Palms or is it?
• 2:31:00
  Is it? Those are all.
• 2:31:02
  Palms OK, these two guys have a have have dogs and it's the
• 2:31:07
  funniest thing ever because they're all ladies.
• 2:31:10
  They just have a bunch of ladies.
• 2:31:11
  Have in their hands and he has some Pomeranians and the
• 2:31:13
  Chihuahua. Yeah.
• 2:31:14
  And it's really funny to me. It's really funny.
• 2:31:17
  Like there's one that I absolutely, I'm obsessed with.
• 2:31:20
  Her name is Buffy and I, she would just be me if I was a dog.
• 2:31:24
  But then there's one that's trying to kill him and it's the
• 2:31:27
  best. It's the best.
• 2:31:28
  She's. Actively trying to kill him.
• 2:31:29
  She's actively trying to kill him.
• 2:31:31
  She. Has many plans and schemes.
• 2:31:32
  Killed me a picture. Of her like her name is Frankie
• 2:31:35
  after like so ocean. Do you mind me telling the story
• 2:31:38
  really quickly? Go for it.
• 2:31:39
  So they had a Pomeranian and her name was Mary Shelley, who
• 2:31:42
  obviously wrote Frankenstein, and she passed away.
• 2:31:46
  And then the next poem that they got, they called her Frankie,
• 2:31:49
  like Frankenstein, who was written by Mary Schelling.
• 2:31:52
  And Frankie hates Oshie Frankie. She does.
• 2:31:55
  She wants. To see Oshie in dead.
• 2:31:58
  And it's the funniest. I love her to bits and she just
• 2:32:03
  does not have any time for me at all.
• 2:32:05
  She just prefers my wife like 1,000,000%.
• 2:32:09
  And then you've got, umm, you've got So Scully did you?
• 2:32:12
  You got Did you get Buffy or Scully first?
• 2:32:14
  Buffy first, so Frankie, then Buffy, then Scully.
• 2:32:17
  Yeah, so Buffy, obviously for obvious dogs.
• 2:32:20
  Oh yeah, horror, horror names. And then, umm, so Buffy did.
• 2:32:24
  Was Buffy. Raised.
• 2:32:25
  Frankie or was it? As Frankie and Scully, your
• 2:32:27
  sisters. Yes, that's what I'm thinking
• 2:32:29
  of. So Frankie and Scully.
• 2:32:31
  So Buffy is like, is my Angel baby.
• 2:32:34
  I love her so much. She's just, she's just a big.
• 2:32:36
  Buffy an Angel, two different. Characters like Buffy.
• 2:32:39
  Is a. Dope, She's just a she's just a
• 2:32:41
  happy little dope and she's so like smiley all the time and I
• 2:32:46
  know you can't say that a dog. She smiles.
• 2:32:48
  She does. She's genuinely just like, I
• 2:32:50
  just love everyone and I hope everyone's happy and you have
• 2:32:53
  Scully's just like doesn't really doesn't really appear
• 2:32:55
  much. She's just kind of like I'm
• 2:32:57
  building trains underneath the house.
• 2:32:59
  Leave me alone. But like she, she does her own
• 2:33:02
  thing. And then you've got like, you
• 2:33:04
  know, you've got Frankie who's just like, I'm actively trying
• 2:33:07
  to kill my father. She hates everything.
• 2:33:13
  It's the best. And he likes them.
• 2:33:14
  He'll send pictures and stuff. And I'm just like, that dog
• 2:33:17
  hates you. And he's like, I'm scared for my
• 2:33:19
  life. And on that note.
• 2:33:22
  On that note, Saint Brendan didn't probably have.
• 2:33:25
  This brings us home to the end of Saint Brendan and his
• 2:33:30
  wonderful journey. Oh, Oh my God, that's not Dolly.
• 2:33:35
  Who's that? That's Dolly.
• 2:33:38
  That's Dolly. She's she's a.
• 2:33:41
  Brain. Well, she's actually all her
• 2:33:43
  hair is growing. Oh yeah, you didn't.
• 2:33:45
  Shave the shit out of her. Top Polish girlfriend to to give
• 2:33:49
  her a OK, that's fine, let's get back.
• 2:33:52
  To. It's done.
• 2:33:53
  It's done. It's done.
• 2:33:54
  It's done. Yeah.
• 2:33:58
  That was going to sign us off. Because I was bringing this
• 2:34:02
  home, I was just saying. And thus ends the journey of of
• 2:34:06
  Saint Brendan. But again, like, it's open to a
• 2:34:10
  lot of interpretation. Like from what we can see, the
• 2:34:13
  historical figure, historically accurate Saint Brendan.
• 2:34:17
  It's entirely possible. Yeah.
• 2:34:19
  You know, Tim Severin did it in 1976.
• 2:34:22
  But yeah, like if you look up the stories of Saint Brendan,
• 2:34:25
  there's so, like, there's so many islands.
• 2:34:27
  There's so many weird guys that he met, all men, so many weird
• 2:34:31
  guys that he met on these islands there.
• 2:34:34
  Was a the island of the strong men?
• 2:34:35
  Did you hear that? One.
• 2:34:37
  No, no. The island was just men and boys
• 2:34:41
  were all super strong, very athletic and yeah, when they
• 2:34:46
  greet each other as well, they all kiss each other on the lips
• 2:34:48
  and it's called anything to do. With that island, thank you very
• 2:34:51
  much. So, but like all these stories,
• 2:34:54
  just sorry, I want to get back to A to talk with the influences
• 2:34:58
  here as well, Just like I'll make it quick.
• 2:35:02
  So these the story of Saint Brandon kind of comes from a
• 2:35:04
  long Irish tradition of talking about these voyages that I was
• 2:35:08
  talking about at the start that are called the Imrav.
• 2:35:11
  And basically our kind of voyages are odysseys.
• 2:35:15
  And a lot of these Brendan stories were actually taken like
• 2:35:19
  bastardized versions of like, you know, the Greek Odyssey and
• 2:35:22
  and the different kind of stories of voyage.
• 2:35:25
  But also like a lot of what the source material would have been
• 2:35:28
  taken from these Irish imras. And that actually influenced
• 2:35:33
  Falken massively when it came to his world building.
• 2:35:38
  So he actually has a poem called the Imrav where he talks about
• 2:35:43
  because like he went talking, went to Ireland.
• 2:35:45
  A lot of people, yeah, used to be like Tolkien was racist
• 2:35:48
  against the Irish and he called them this and he called them
• 2:35:51
  that. No, Tolkien loved Ireland.
• 2:35:53
  He loved the Irish. Like he he a lot of his
• 2:35:56
  influences for like Middle Earth are actually Irish like the the
• 2:36:02
  country land in in Ireland as well.
• 2:36:04
  Unlike you were saying earlier, the whole New Zealand thing,
• 2:36:07
  it's very similar countryside. Like.
• 2:36:10
  Yeah, New Zealand is just fucking S Ireland, but umm the
• 2:36:13
  the the umm well literally it's on the same lay line as Ireland,
• 2:36:18
  only on the very opposite side of the world.
• 2:36:20
  So it has a that Irish temperate climate.
• 2:36:22
  It's the only difference is it doesn't have the North Atlantic
• 2:36:25
  drift like we have. Anyways, that's another fucking
• 2:36:27
  tangents, but literally talking a role, a story or a poem about
• 2:36:33
  his love for these Irish stories that are called him RAF.
• 2:36:36
  It's called the MRAF and he eh, talks about how he loves this
• 2:36:40
  thing. Now, if you think about when we
• 2:36:42
  talk about The Lord of the Rings and where the eh, in the end,
• 2:36:48
  where the elves eh, what's the name of this fucking place where
• 2:36:51
  the elves go where it's like they're.
• 2:36:52
  Rivendale. No, we're not Fucking not
• 2:36:54
  really. That's their, that's their city.
• 2:36:56
  They're teared and all. They're Valhalla.
• 2:36:58
  They they go off to this land across the sea.
• 2:37:02
  Yes, with what what direction do they go across to see?
• 2:37:05
  So they go West, they go West yes, so they say Ah fucking what
• 2:37:11
  is the name? But eh again, if I was not eh
• 2:37:14
  awake fucking 24 hours. I probably know him, but like
• 2:37:19
  it's the this land, basically all cultures have this land that
• 2:37:24
  is like this eh, ethereal kind of a place.
• 2:37:26
  Ireland has given an all Balanor and Balanor.
• 2:37:29
  That's where, yeah. So the guys end up in in Balanor
• 2:37:32
  in the end. Or this is this magic mythical
• 2:37:36
  place that's to the West. And he took that eh inspiration
• 2:37:41
  from eh the idea of people travelling West to the new
• 2:37:46
  world, to the promised land. And he was obsessed with these,
• 2:37:51
  the eh, voyages, these Irish imrav and the voyage of Sam
• 2:37:56
  Brendan, where he was going to this land of Saints, this, this
• 2:38:00
  new world where it was this beautiful place.
• 2:38:03
  And eh, if we didn't have Sam Brendan, we might not have had
• 2:38:08
  well, I'm not saying we won't have the Lord of the Rings, but
• 2:38:10
  we wouldn't have had the Lord of the Rings as we know it, because
• 2:38:12
  there's a major influence on the works of talking from these
• 2:38:19
  stories that Sam Brendan was actually a massive part of.
• 2:38:23
  And there's order. There's a lot of other kind of
• 2:38:27
  literary kind of influences that it has as well where people
• 2:38:31
  people talk about just the hero's journey and like, you
• 2:38:33
  know, these fantastic voyages. But I think the most one that is
• 2:38:39
  probably most prevalent to the likes of us who are much fucking
• 2:38:41
  autistic nerds that like the Lord of the Rings is a big deal
• 2:38:47
  to our generation because we got those movies and and Tolkien had
• 2:38:51
  that regenerate or that the resurgence in the the 2000s,
• 2:38:55
  like yeah. And it's, I think it's just one
• 2:38:59
  of those things that like when we talk about the lasting
• 2:39:01
  oppression, you don't really know.
• 2:39:03
  Like these stories come from stories that come from stories
• 2:39:05
  that come from stories. And then what we get is the
• 2:39:08
  likes of The Lord of the Rings. And we don't know.
• 2:39:11
  We, we just imagine that talk and just imagine this world.
• 2:39:14
  Yeah, yes. But it had to have come from.
• 2:39:18
  He had to have inspiration from somewhere.
• 2:39:20
  One of these major inspirations. Yeah.
• 2:39:22
  One of these major inspirations for that is eh the, the, you
• 2:39:28
  know, the fucking voyage of Saint Brendan.
• 2:39:30
  And it's the same, we've got the same kind of software, George RR
• 2:39:34
  Martin, where he takes like stories from the real world and
• 2:39:39
  makes them these dramatic kind of fantasy stories as well.
• 2:39:44
  Eh, Tolkien done the same thing. And George RR Martin took some
• 2:39:47
  influence from Tolkien as well. And when he talks about eh, same
• 2:39:51
  thing eh from Aria, which he leaves at the very end of Game
• 2:39:57
  of Trolls. Oh fucking.
• 2:39:58
  Yeah. She's like the.
• 2:40:01
  She's travelling W like called. Fucking yeah.
• 2:40:06
  Yeah, No, that's not what I think of.
• 2:40:09
  What's the fuck? What's the place that she's in?
• 2:40:11
  She's that guy who owes her a debt.
• 2:40:13
  What's it called? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:40:16
  The House of Black and. White, but what's his name?
• 2:40:18
  Is fucking why you just yes well I'm our goal is why would.
• 2:40:23
  Just and yeah. That are the house why would you
• 2:40:26
  have said why did you say the wrong name 1st and now I can't
• 2:40:31
  think of the guy that I fucking. I'm sorry, I didn't.
• 2:40:34
  It's. Hundreds.
• 2:40:35
  Of games stuck in the. World.
• 2:40:37
  But yeah, it's that little it's. The faceless, Yeah.
• 2:40:40
  Basically, eh, in the it's essentially a Greek island like
• 2:40:44
  this little tiny fucking because she's yes.
• 2:40:48
  For our boss as well, yeah, yeah, that's where, yeah, that's
• 2:40:49
  where she ended up. But like, it's a that's not a
• 2:40:52
  tiny Greek island, that's a fucking massive place.
• 2:40:53
  But. It's essentially sent to kind of
• 2:40:57
  like, I mean, and if you look at like Game of Thrones and like
• 2:41:00
  Westeros and all of that shit that it's like it's built out, I
• 2:41:04
  think like your brain tries to wrap it around and like, oh, and
• 2:41:06
  the equivalent to to fucking actual Earth.
• 2:41:09
  It's it's this place and this place and this place.
• 2:41:11
  And like they say that like. Well, it's literally Westeros is
• 2:41:15
  literally I. Know, I know, I know.
• 2:41:17
  It's like somebody's like. North of the wall.
• 2:41:20
  It's. Scotland and you're stuck up
• 2:41:21
  there, but like. Well, if you look at the map,
• 2:41:24
  it's it's the map of Ireland turned upside down with
• 2:41:26
  Scotland. Yeah.
• 2:41:28
  So like and then you've got. Literally just turned up a map.
• 2:41:31
  And then yeah, so yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 2:41:33
  The wall is Hadrian's Wall. Like he took all those
• 2:41:36
  inspirations. Yeah, from different like, yeah,
• 2:41:39
  facts. But like that, again, all I'm
• 2:41:41
  saying is at the end he talked about area going West because W
• 2:41:46
  is this new one. And this.
• 2:41:49
  Yeah, so she was voyaging there and again he takes that from the
• 2:41:52
  likes of and well, I again, I'm not telling you where he took it
• 2:41:56
  from, but you can imagine he's taken that from talking.
• 2:41:59
  Who has taken that from? Yeah, the imrav, these voyages.
• 2:42:02
  If you haven't watched, I just think.
• 2:42:04
  It's game of. Thrones, please watch Game of
• 2:42:05
  Thrones. It's incredible.
• 2:42:07
  It's, I think, my favorite TV series of all time.
• 2:42:10
  I I haven't watched them the Night of the Seven Kingdoms yet.
• 2:42:14
  I actually look forward because I love that short.
• 2:42:17
  Story. So I hadn't I hadn't watched
• 2:42:19
  Game of Thrones at all. And then, like I, I waited.
• 2:42:22
  I was one of those freaks that waited until I had finished and
• 2:42:26
  I was like, I'll watch it. And I was like, you know, you
• 2:42:28
  like you. It's because it's such a fucking
• 2:42:30
  long show. Like each episode is like an
• 2:42:31
  hour. I don't like, Oh yeah, I'll
• 2:42:33
  watch them at night. But no, it's one of those shows
• 2:42:35
  where you're like, no, I need to watch fucking the next 1
• 2:42:38
  immediately. I watch series 1/8 times I
• 2:42:42
  watch. Series. 27 times I watch series.
• 2:42:45
  36 times I watch series 4 live times and I went like so every
• 2:42:52
  time a new series come out I watch it's so.
• 2:42:54
  Ocean, have you watched Game of Thrones?
• 2:42:56
  Yes, I have. Yes.
• 2:42:57
  So I have to ask them, both of you, who is your favorite
• 2:43:00
  character? Jon Snow.
• 2:43:02
  Brown at the Blackwater. I'm Stannis.
• 2:43:05
  I'm a Stannis girl. Stannis.
• 2:43:07
  I love Stannis. Stannis.
• 2:43:10
  Stannis Rathian, correct in the grammar.
• 2:43:13
  I love him. I love.
• 2:43:15
  Him. He's the only character in this
• 2:43:18
  in the whole series that has no redeeming aspects.
• 2:43:22
  Everybody no. No, you say.
• 2:43:24
  That like Ramsey. Bolden isn't a fucking
• 2:43:27
  character. Yeah, but there's a reason.
• 2:43:31
  Is there a reason? Let's let's come on is.
• 2:43:32
  There a reason no? There's a reason why he's a
• 2:43:34
  there's a reason why he's a hold of the cunt, because, because
• 2:43:37
  fucking Lord Bolt and his fucking outlet was an absolute
• 2:43:40
  bastard to him. And he begets, he begets, he
• 2:43:42
  begets. So you can understand from him,
• 2:43:44
  Stannis Baratheon is a fucking hard scorn face.
• 2:43:49
  He came for no reason other than seduced.
• 2:43:52
  And told absolute lies by a sexy redhead.
• 2:43:56
  He wasn't even. He wasn't even seduced.
• 2:43:58
  By her because she was sexy. By the way.
• 2:44:00
  It. Was only because she said to him
• 2:44:03
  that you know you're the most I. Don't think he's funny.
• 2:44:06
  I even yes I like him because. He.
• 2:44:08
  He. Likes.
• 2:44:09
  Grammar. Bringer he's he's he's he's fond
• 2:44:11
  of grammar. He's fond of of the English
• 2:44:13
  language. I just I really do like Sans
• 2:44:16
  breath in. I think he was.
• 2:44:17
  A jealous little bollocks who couldn't deal with the fact that
• 2:44:19
  his brother was born before him and that he would never have
• 2:44:22
  his. Station.
• 2:44:23
  Life was to be the fucking stern middle child.
• 2:44:25
  The only person in all of West Ross that he had respect for was
• 2:44:29
  Ned, who it was only because he was a virtuous bollocks in
• 2:44:34
  himself and he actually said Ned was too virtuous.
• 2:44:37
  It's actually. The only, the only other guy
• 2:44:43
  that I will say is is is Jamie. But I can't because Jamie Fox's
• 2:44:47
  sister, Yeah. Jamie's still a nice guy.
• 2:44:50
  Yeah, Deep. Down.
• 2:44:50
  No, you're Mormont. You're a Mormont.
• 2:44:54
  Yeah, yeah. OK, Jordan, we'll.
• 2:44:56
  Go there. We'll go.
• 2:44:57
  We'll go there. Well also sold people in slavery
• 2:45:00
  so like everybody else is black. Who?
• 2:45:02
  Who is your? Who is yours?
• 2:45:04
  So it's between Jon Snow and Brienne of charts?
• 2:45:06
  Oh. Brienne I like.
• 2:45:09
  Brienne so much, yeah. There's only one right answer in
• 2:45:12
  this whole thing. There is a top tree, not the one
• 2:45:16
  right answer is Bron of blackboard.
• 2:45:18
  He's the fucking. He's the most.
• 2:45:20
  Everyone. I love Bron.
• 2:45:21
  Actually, he's the. Most genuine character in the
• 2:45:23
  whole There's no one that's more genuine than him.
• 2:45:25
  He's out straight everywhere. He.
• 2:45:27
  Goes he says. It to them.
• 2:45:29
  He. Said the hound is number.
• 2:45:30
  Two I like. The Hound and EH Thorin is #3
• 2:45:34
  those are the three guys, yeah, those are the three guys who are
• 2:45:39
  unapologetically the guys. They are themselves.
• 2:45:42
  They're not too good. They're not too bad.
• 2:45:45
  They're people who, eh, have just.
• 2:45:48
  Lived in a. Circumstance.
• 2:45:49
  Roll with the punches that they get.
• 2:45:50
  Exactly. Bron of the Blackwater was born
• 2:45:53
  into fucking eh poverty. He fought his way up and sold.
• 2:45:59
  He got his hot wife on an island in the end.
• 2:46:02
  Yeah, he. Got himself.
• 2:46:03
  He got himself a fucking castle and a lordship and he never
• 2:46:06
  apologized for anything, you fucking know.
• 2:46:08
  She's been Danny. And I've been LED down the path
• 2:46:16
  talking about game of trauma. Now I'm going.
• 2:46:19
  To on Game of Thrones. We will be back next week to.
• 2:46:23
  Try to. Peel back what is wrong with
• 2:46:25
  America? I'm so excited.
• 2:46:27
  Machine Ocean has a fought the good fight of of bringing us
• 2:46:33
  down this he has convinced us to do a multi episode series that
• 2:46:37
  we will dip in and out of and yes or she wanted what is on.
• 2:46:42
  Every episode of What is Wrong with America will be the
• 2:46:45
  Puritans I love. It but what I will.
• 2:46:48
  Say what I will say. I'm just going to add this
• 2:46:51
  before we leave you you'll be missing this.
• 2:46:54
  You'll be missing this nonsense when we get to what is wrong
• 2:46:58
  with America because it gets fucking dark and bizarre.
• 2:47:03
  And you, you might miss people having a fucking camping fucking
• 2:47:08
  picnic on a whale when we get to the fact that Erica Kirk is a
• 2:47:13
  fucking Andy Christ demon. Like we will see.
• 2:47:18
  But anyway, yeah, thank you so much.
• 2:47:20
  You thought if you thought Christians Christians fucking
• 2:47:23
  eh? Having a picnic on a whale was
• 2:47:25
  bad. When you see Christians who burn
• 2:47:28
  women for being women, that's going to.
• 2:47:30
  Get I mean. We deserve it.
• 2:47:31
  We do deserve it. But anyway, like, that's next
• 2:47:35
  week, ladies. And gentlemen, she's been Danny,
• 2:47:38
  he's been Ocean. I've been Justy.
• 2:47:40
  Thanks for hanging out with us for a spell.
• 2:47:43
  I love you all, bye. Bye.