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Speaker 1: Jesus is the report. Tonight, Grace Tame called for an intafada,
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Speaker 1: and now the ABC harritor cos Donald Trump abuses Israel's
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Speaker 1: Prime minister as he tries to please Iran. Also tonight,
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Speaker 1: labor figures now agitate against getting our nuclear submarines from America.
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Speaker 1: Here comes Peter Garrett and plenty more tonight, including Matt Canavan.
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Speaker 1: But first, I'll be thinking all day how to get
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Speaker 1: a problem that's so obvious through the Albanesi government's thick
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Speaker 1: skull and maybe a finally hit on it. Today the
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Speaker 1: Bureau of Statistics population clock showed our population smashing through
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Speaker 1: twenty eight million people. That's seem just incredible. This is
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Speaker 1: the figure of an hour ago. That means we've added
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Speaker 1: another million people in just the past three years of
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Speaker 1: the Albani'sa government. A million in three years, most of
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Speaker 1: them immigrants. Where are they all living? You may well ask,
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Speaker 1: no other country in the West there's a population growth
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Speaker 1: this fast other than I think Liechtenstein or an Israel. Israel,
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Speaker 1: just see how wide the door is under the prime minister,
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Speaker 1: I mean, Anthony Albanisi is letting in more than eleven
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Speaker 1: hundred immigrants a day on average net about four times
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Speaker 1: more than did labor Prime minister's Bob Hawk and Paul Keating,
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Speaker 1: and more than double than did John Howard. It already,
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Speaker 1: let's let the door open to wide. Now there's plenty
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Speaker 1: of theories why the immigration level is this insane, and
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Speaker 1: here are a couple of me Lots of immigrants tends
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Speaker 1: to mean lots more labor voters, and two lots of
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Speaker 1: immigrants also means a lot more taxes for the government,
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Speaker 1: even if average Australians meanwhile get poorer per person. And
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Speaker 1: now here are some of the reasons why voters absolutely
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Speaker 1: hate this, as polls show. When a third of us
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Speaker 1: are now born overseas, our unity has to be weakened.
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Speaker 1: And when we import so many people and so fast,
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Speaker 1: by the way, our cities get too full the trains,
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Speaker 1: the hospitals, the roads and so on, and they become
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Speaker 1: almost unrecognizable to even those who grew up in these cities.
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Speaker 1: And of course it's the big one. When we import
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Speaker 1: so many people, we run out of houses and they
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Speaker 1: get too expensive. And who hasn't seen that. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we add a million people, million Australians in three but
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Speaker 1: we're not building the houses for them. In fact, the
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Speaker 1: Albany is the Governor's way under his own target of
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Speaker 1: building one point two million homes in five years. So
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Speaker 1: you would think it's an no brainer. You don't flood
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Speaker 1: the country with immigrants when you're not building enough houses.
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Speaker 1: But this government's prominise refused to admit that too much
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Speaker 1: immigration helps make houses too expensive for Australians. They have
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Speaker 1: kept insisting the problem isn't the demand, just the supply.
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Speaker 2: Of course, we want them to be more affordable.
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Speaker 3: The key there, of course, as well, is supply.
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Speaker 4: We've got a housing crisis in Australia because for forty
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Speaker 4: years our country has not been building enough homes.
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Speaker 1: Now I can't understand by this government doesn't go you know,
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Speaker 1: light bulb, Well, if you can't actually make supply match demand,
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Speaker 1: why not cut the demand? I mean really cut immigration? Right?
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Speaker 1: I mean, how is that not as obvious these labor
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Speaker 1: politicians as I'm sure it's obvious to everyone watching. And
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Speaker 1: as I said, I've been wracking my brains all day.
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Speaker 1: You know, how am I going to illustrate this so
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Speaker 1: clearly that even a labor MP would understand or couldn't
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Speaker 1: at least the diet, and I mean by that a
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Speaker 1: labor MP like this one who last week explained Housing
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Speaker 1: Labour's housing tax grab like this. This is Giraffe, and
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Speaker 1: Giraffe owns.
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Speaker 5: The house that he lives in. He also owns a
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Speaker 5: second house that he rents out to Zephyra.
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Speaker 1: So let me explain this immigration issue to her and
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Speaker 1: other labor MPs and the language they use to voters
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Speaker 1: and so might even understand themselves. This is a bone. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you have one dog and one bone, you don't
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Speaker 1: have a problem with supply. But if you have two
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Speaker 1: dogs and one bone, you do. In fact, you have
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Speaker 1: a fight in your hands. Now, if labor and peace
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Speaker 1: just follow me for a couple more seconds while I
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Speaker 1: try to explain this as they try to explain their
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Speaker 1: tax changes to us. Let's now not talk about dogs
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Speaker 1: and bones, but immigrants and homes. The obanies the government
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Speaker 1: has added one point three million immigrants. It's just his
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Speaker 1: first three years, and the way things are going, it
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Speaker 1: will add two million in total over its two terms.
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Speaker 1: I understand now that is why we have a housing crisis.
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Speaker 1: Not enough bones or homes. Too much demand when there's
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Speaker 1: not enough supply and the answer has to be you
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Speaker 1: cut immigration. Indeed, speaking of there is secret Reserve bank
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Speaker 1: notes that were prepared last year for the board. Cindney
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Speaker 1: Morning Herald had them today and they show the bank
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Speaker 1: admitting that migration is indeed, in fact, it's listed as
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Speaker 1: one of the quote main ways that the government could
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Speaker 1: use to affect housing. And these notes go on to
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Speaker 1: complain that many of the governments subsidies to the home
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Speaker 1: buyers to supposedly fix the problem in different ways, simply
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Speaker 1: added to this demand, pull forward purchases and cause higher prices.
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Speaker 1: Now what an damning indictment Discoverment asks about that Reserve
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Speaker 1: Bank note. Today the Housing Minister admitted in Parliament, well, okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: cutting immigration could help, and even claimed that the government
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Speaker 1: had done that, even though in fact immigration this year
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Speaker 1: is still around three hundred thousand people a year, obviously
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Speaker 1: far too high. But then she immediately switched to the
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Speaker 1: old mantra no no, no, But what we really had
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Speaker 1: to do was build more homes, more and more and
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Speaker 1: some more.
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Speaker 6: Now, this government's brought in a record one point four
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Speaker 6: million migrants. So isn't it the truth that Labour's migration
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Speaker 6: policies have made it harder for Australians, including New Australians,
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Speaker 6: to afford a home.
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Speaker 4: Migration is a piece of the puzzle here, and that
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Speaker 4: is exactly why our government has acted to bring migration down.
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Speaker 4: The main game here is we've got to build more
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Speaker 4: homes for Australians.
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Speaker 1: But you know what the truth really is here, Labor
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Speaker 1: does not want to know, doesn't want you to know
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Speaker 1: that mass immigration is a problem, is a curse really,
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Speaker 1: And boy did that become obvious when I read today
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Speaker 1: an astonishing story in the Fancial Review about Labour's response
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Speaker 1: to that poll. And I showed you yesterday showing one
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Speaker 1: nation now way ahead of even Labor and now quote
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Speaker 1: such arrogant Labor insiders who, by the way, sounds to
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Speaker 1: me exactly like treasure Jim Chalmers saying voters who have
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Speaker 1: deserted the Labor government for one nation have done so
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Speaker 1: because of financial hardship, not ideology the party's hierarchy believes,
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Speaker 1: which means, you know, we'll just throw them a few
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Speaker 1: tax stuff for a few handouts close to the election
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Speaker 1: and that will be sweet. But when you look at the
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Speaker 1: detail of that poll yesterday, you will find that voters
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Speaker 1: rated labor already head of one nation or still head
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Speaker 1: of one nation just on handling the cost of living crisis,
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Speaker 1: and in fact ahead of one nation and every issue
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Speaker 1: except two and guess which. Immigration, especially that's a third
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Speaker 1: from the bottom, and also crime. Immigration is above all
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Speaker 1: the red hot issue for one nation voters and everything
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Speaker 1: of course that flows from that unity, like patriotism, like
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Speaker 1: all that ideology that labor dismisses because it wants to,
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Speaker 1: it needs to, has to. Immigration is the key issue
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Speaker 1: behind the rise of one nation. You know, the way
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Speaker 1: this mass immigration changing our country, making it feel less
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Speaker 1: like our home. And still as you see, you get
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Speaker 1: labor in total manic, self serving denial. But of course
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Speaker 1: house prices are affected not just by immigration pushing prices
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Speaker 1: up right now, the Albanizi governments rising interest rates, in
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Speaker 1: our attacks on capital gains, discounts the negative gearing, they
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Speaker 1: are pushing prices down so much so, in fact, that
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Speaker 1: prices are suddenly crashing in the cities, to the point
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Speaker 1: where young buyers, especially who use the government's stupid five
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Speaker 1: percent deposit scheme, now have a home worth less than
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Speaker 1: they borrowed, not all but number of them. And that
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Speaker 1: is called negative equity, not that treasure Jim Charmers seemed
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Speaker 1: to care today.
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Speaker 7: Are you concerned that first time buyers who use the
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Speaker 7: five percent deposits in a falling market could end up
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Speaker 7: with negative equity in the first few months, in the
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Speaker 7: first few years of ownership.
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Speaker 1: Well, no, because housing is a long term investment. It
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Speaker 1: ignores that first homes often are just the starter homes,
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Speaker 1: like with me, your first flat, and then you move
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Speaker 1: a few years later when children might be in the offing,
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Speaker 1: to one with two bedrooms joining me. Is our Tuesday
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Speaker 1: regular commentator Matt Canavan, the Nationals leader. Matt Canavan, Great
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Speaker 1: to see you again. Why is the Oveniza government so
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Speaker 1: against slashing mass immigration hard? What's your theory?
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Speaker 8: Look, it can only be a theory or I can't
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Speaker 8: read the mind of the Prime minister. It is very
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Speaker 8: strange that a government won't be responsive to the will
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Speaker 8: of the people. Two thirds of people want to see
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Speaker 8: migration cut and want to see it cut significantly. And
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Speaker 8: in this last budget a few weeks ago, something's been
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Speaker 8: missed with all the tax changes. Is the government actually
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Speaker 8: increased its forecast for migration by another ninety one thousand people.
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Speaker 8: That's directly against what the istral people want. I think
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Speaker 8: the only justificational reason you can come to here is
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Speaker 8: that the labor government is addicted to artificially pumping up
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Speaker 8: its economic performance by bringing in more people. So bringing
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Speaker 8: in more people does have one direct effect of increasing
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Speaker 8: economic activity because more people are here to spend, so
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Speaker 8: it makes headline figures like gross domestic product economic output
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Speaker 8: look stronger. Those figures will come out tomorrow, but that
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Speaker 8: doesn't necessarily mean everybody.
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Speaker 1: Is more prosperous.
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Speaker 8: Of course, just because more stuff is being bought and
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Speaker 8: sold in the country. If there are more people here individually,
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Speaker 8: you could still be worse off, which has been what
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Speaker 8: has been happening in the first four years of this government,
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Speaker 8: where our living stands have gone backwards and gone backwards
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Speaker 8: at a recorded pace. Everybody can feel that. But everybody
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Speaker 8: can feel this mass migration approach is not working. It
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Speaker 8: needs to change. That's why we've said we will target
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Speaker 8: migration numbers that are calibrated. The houses we build there
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Speaker 8: will be much much lower than what we see at
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Speaker 8: the moment. And we'll also of course make sure that
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Speaker 8: if you do come to this country, you must share
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Speaker 8: Australian values, otherwise you'll be going home.
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Speaker 1: But Matt, why don't you set at least the ceiling
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Speaker 1: number for immigration? Why you leave it so nebulous that
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Speaker 1: one nation can consumpt you and say this is our figure.
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Speaker 1: I forgot what there's one hundred and thirty thousand permanent netmigration.
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Speaker 1: But whatever it is, why don't you do the same.
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Speaker 8: Look, you may have forgotten that number because one nation
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Speaker 8: has changed that number many times. So we don't set
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Speaker 8: a target deficit number for the budget. That's pretty important,
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Speaker 8: number two. But we don't set that right now because
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Speaker 8: we're in opposition and whatever number we say today is
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Speaker 8: not really relevant because we're not going to deliver a
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Speaker 8: budget next week or next year or at least two
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Speaker 8: years away from that. So on the same token, before
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Speaker 8: the next election, we will tell everybody exactly what the
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Speaker 8: number we think for the year that we could be
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Speaker 8: in government for, just like we will for the budget
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Speaker 8: as well from opposition. That's when you release costings. It'll
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Speaker 8: be released when we release all of those details. But
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Speaker 8: what we have said, as I said, we've set a target.
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Speaker 8: Our target will be to match the homes that are
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Speaker 8: built in this country. They are well below the rates
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Speaker 8: of our home building is well below the numbers of
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Speaker 8: mature us that this government's brought in, so our figures
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Speaker 8: will be well below. This government will be a massive
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Speaker 8: cut and will have a sensible program to do with migration,
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Speaker 8: just as Tony Abbott secure with the borders when he
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Speaker 8: was in government John Howard did, a liberal national government can.
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Speaker 1: Be except, of course, you know, this more to mass
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Speaker 1: immigration than the housing crisis. There are other issues that
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Speaker 1: would themselves justify cut in immigration, and a big one. Look.
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Speaker 1: But in terms of housing, part of the argument, of
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Speaker 1: course is the houses are too expensive for the young.
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Speaker 1: That's what we've got to do, this sort of thing.
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Speaker 1: Prices though in the cities are now falling, not everywhere
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Speaker 1: but largely in particular brackets of housing in particular. Shouldn't
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Speaker 1: we thank the government for that? Or is the falling
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Speaker 1: prices just allow for the extra costs from higher interest
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Speaker 1: rates now on the mortgage you must pay well.
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Speaker 8: Look, there are two ways to deal with inflation and
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Speaker 8: high prices, Andrew, we can take the poor Keating approach,
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Speaker 8: where we have a recession we have to have, and
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Speaker 8: economic chaos leads to economic downturn, which would reduce the
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Speaker 8: price of assets and everything else and put people out
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Speaker 8: of work and the like, And that seems to be
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Speaker 8: the approach the treasure is happy with because he said
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Speaker 8: it's a good thing. Amazingly, the Treasure of the Labor
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Speaker 8: Party Treasurer today said it was a good thing that
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Speaker 8: auction rates are clearing, that people can't sell their homes
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Speaker 8: and have to pull their hair out about what their
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Speaker 8: economic plans are post this shocking and terrible budget. I
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Speaker 8: think the other way that we want to promote is
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Speaker 8: much better. That we can help take relief off inflation
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Speaker 8: and prices by increasing productivity, by increasing our growth rate,
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Speaker 8: by having a plan to grow our economy. Some of
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Speaker 8: the worst feature almost in this budget's not worth what
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Speaker 8: it doesn't say. There's no plan for economic growth, there's
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Speaker 8: no plan to increase our stagnating productivity. August Taylor and
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Speaker 8: I you might think lots of things about us, but
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Speaker 8: we do come from very strong economic backgrounds and we
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Speaker 8: understand that the only sustainable way to grow a more
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Speaker 8: prosperous opportunities for our young Australians is to have a
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Speaker 8: strong economy with strong productivity performance, because that is what
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Speaker 8: underpins then the prices that people can afford the jobs
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Speaker 8: that give them wealth, to afford a home. That's what
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Speaker 8: we've got to invest in. This government has just given
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Speaker 8: up on that. It's given up on productivity, it's given
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Speaker 8: up on living standards to distract everybody. It's worse generational
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Speaker 8: campaign on taxes.
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Speaker 1: No, it's worse than that. They've actually hampered the productivity
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Speaker 1: growth with a lot of the regulations that passed. Now
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Speaker 1: said last night, Matt, I'm almost out of time, but
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Speaker 1: I've got to ask you this. The danger in making
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Speaker 1: Tony ab the new Liberal president is that it's so
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Speaker 1: forceful as a campaigner a communicator that he risks making
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Speaker 1: Liberal leader angus status in the pay limitation, which is
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Speaker 1: something that was picked up today by the Prome Minister.
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Speaker 2: Here is we don't need a Tony Abbott cover band,
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Speaker 2: a cheap immersion. We had the real thing out there
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Speaker 2: on Friday become national president. That he did seven interviews
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Speaker 2: yesterday because he knows that this guy just.
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Speaker 8: Don't up to the job. Your response, Matt, Well, for mine,
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Speaker 8: I love to see Tony back. He was a good
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Speaker 8: prime minister that had his term cut way too short.
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Speaker 8: It was the original sin. If you like of the
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Speaker 8: format coalition government, but with his return to a leadership
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Speaker 8: position in the Liberal Party within our coalition, if you like,
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Speaker 8: think finally the miserable ghost of Malcolm Turbul has been
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Speaker 8: exercised from the Liberal National Parties and we are back together.
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Speaker 8: We've got a strong team. We are going to fight
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Speaker 8: for conservative values and principles again, like spending with restraint,
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Speaker 8: lowering taxes, scrapping net zero and common sense on energy.
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Speaker 8: And as we've discussed securing our borders once more.
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Speaker 1: Yes, as the Liberals were saying before they were so
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Speaker 1: rudely interrupted by Malcolm Turnbull. Look I'm hearing you on that,
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Speaker 1: but still a lot of people went along with that folly.
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Speaker 1: I thank heavens you didn't really, so that you go. Matcanavan,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. After the break,
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump abuses Israel's Prime Minister and announces a piece deal.
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Speaker 1: But the terror group has never talked to Something very
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Speaker 1: strange is going on. One thing is becoming clear. Whatever
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Speaker 1: good Donald Trump is doing as president for America, domestically,
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Speaker 1: when it comes to world affairs, he is floundering. He
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Speaker 1: promised during his last election campaign to win the war
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Speaker 1: in Ukraine, in one day.
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Speaker 9: Before I even arrive at the Oval office, I will
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Speaker 9: have the disastrous war between Russia and Ukraine settled, and
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Speaker 9: it will take me no longer than one day.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's obviously a huge fail in fact that Trump
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Speaker 1: might have made the war drag out by not supporting
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Speaker 1: Ukraine enough. Then Trump promised it end the war against
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Speaker 1: Hamas in Gaza, claimed seven months ago he'd got to
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Speaker 1: deal with these terrorists.
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Speaker 9: I'm going to disarm and because they said they were
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Speaker 9: going to disarm, and if they don't disarm, we will
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Speaker 9: disarm them.
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Speaker 1: Well, seven months on, that hasn't happened either. Hamas is
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Speaker 1: not disarmed and America hasn't made it. Now. It's true
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Speaker 1: that Hamas at the time did release the last of
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Speaker 1: its Jewish hostages, credit in part to Trump, most credit
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Speaker 1: really to Israel. But Hamas is still armed and fighting
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Speaker 1: and Trump does nothing. Now. Trump claims today to have
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Speaker 1: another piece steel, and this time is to stop Israel
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Speaker 1: fighting the hesbela terrorist army in Lebanon that is an
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Speaker 1: army financed by Iran. Now, obviously this is to help
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Speaker 1: him make a peace deal with Iran in a war
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Speaker 1: there that he wants to end. Very soon and probably
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Speaker 1: without a clear wind. To be honest, Trump overnight posted
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Speaker 1: on truth Social that both Israel and Hesblah had agreed
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Speaker 1: to a cease far as around demands, and that it
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Speaker 1: had a very productive call with Prime Minister Bibi Netnya,
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Speaker 1: who of Israel, and there will be no Israeli troops
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Speaker 1: going to Beirut. And through intermediates, he said, I had
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Speaker 1: a very good call with Hezbollah, that's the terrorist army,
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Speaker 1: and they agreed that all shooting will stop, that Israel
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Speaker 1: will not attack them, and they will not attack Israel.
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Speaker 1: In fact, Hezbollah has not publicly agreed to any such thing.
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Speaker 1: Trump only has the word of Lebanon's president, who does
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Speaker 1: not obviously control Hezbelah, and Israel's Prime minister has meanwhile
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Speaker 1: kept bombing Hesbela targets in Lebanon and is indicated he's
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Speaker 1: not sure there really is a cease fire himself, posting
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Speaker 1: I spoke this evening with President Trump and told them
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Speaker 1: that Hesbella does not stop firing at our cities and citizens,
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Speaker 1: Israel will strike terrorist targets in Beirut. The position of
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Speaker 1: ours remain unchanged. Concurrently, the IDF, the Israeli Defense Force
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Speaker 1: will continue to operate as planned in southern Lebanon. What
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Speaker 1: on earth is Trump doing here there? Even our reports
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Speaker 1: that is doing too what he did to Ukraine's president
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Speaker 1: Vladimir Zelenski, so shamefully abusing and raging at him to
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Speaker 1: make him give in to In this case, Israel's the
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Speaker 1: speakable enemy, shouting at Net and Yahoo, what the f
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Speaker 1: are you doing in Lebanon? Everyone hates Israel, so not
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Speaker 1: everything Trump has done in foreign politics is bad. It's
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Speaker 1: obviously force Europe to spend a lot more on its defense,
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Speaker 1: which is a big thing, but it's also smashed the
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Speaker 1: Native Alliance, or at least destroyed faith in it and
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Speaker 1: in America's world. A word joining me is our Tuesday
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Speaker 1: regular Sean Spiced, Don Trump's first White House spokesman. I
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Speaker 1: talked to him short while ago, Sean Spicer, Great to
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Speaker 1: see you again. Donald Trump is now claiming he's going
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Speaker 1: to cease far between Hezbela and Israel without having talked
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Speaker 1: to one and without getting a clear commitment from another.
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Speaker 1: To me, this looks like a desperate attempt to persuade
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Speaker 1: you run that sponsors Hesbela to make peace for the US.
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Speaker 10: Well, to say the least.
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Speaker 11: This is getting confusing, and it's very difficult considering how
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Speaker 11: you actually negotiate logistically with Iran.
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Speaker 10: It's very complicated.
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Speaker 11: The simplest changes can take literally days passing notes back
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Speaker 11: and forth between couriers that go into caves and whatnot.
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Speaker 11: And then you've got Israel it's clearly not excited about
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Speaker 11: stopping anytime soon.
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Speaker 10: So you got a lot of interested parties.
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Speaker 11: I think I give the president credit, though obviously the
22:22
Speaker 11: goal is peace and to make sure that we leave
22:25
Speaker 11: this whole altercation and conflict a much safer world.
22:32
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought the goal was actually the defeat of Iran,
22:34
Speaker 1: but that doesn't seem to be quite happening. How much
22:37
Speaker 1: trouble is he in do you think domestically with not
22:40
Speaker 1: being able to win the war or make a piece
22:43
Speaker 1: that he can sell.
22:46
Speaker 11: I think there's two separate questions there, Andrew. The first
22:48
Speaker 11: one is, look, the President remains committed. He says this
22:52
Speaker 11: all the time publicly and a truth social posts that
22:56
Speaker 11: preventing Iran from maintaining or having the ability to enrich
22:59
Speaker 11: your eranium to the point of posing a nuclear threat
23:03
Speaker 11: still remains the number one goal.
23:05
Speaker 10: I think that is something.
23:06
Speaker 11: That we all should agree upon is admirable and should
23:09
Speaker 11: be the focus of what we do. But when we
23:11
Speaker 11: get into the domestic politics, there's a little bit of a.
23:14
Speaker 10: Good and bad, if you will.
23:16
Speaker 11: Domestic oil prices or gas prices here in America are
23:19
Speaker 11: down about twelve to fourteen cents in the last ten days.
23:22
Speaker 10: That's good.
23:23
Speaker 11: Americans obviously are focused on on the price at the
23:26
Speaker 11: pump for so many aspects of their daily budget. But
23:30
Speaker 11: the question is, you know that's a week. Is it
23:32
Speaker 11: going to continue to move in that direction. To be blunt,
23:35
Speaker 11: we're largely a forgiving and forgetful nation that in the
23:38
Speaker 11: sense that if if we were able to resolve this
23:41
Speaker 11: and gas prices drop twenty five thirty forty cents in
23:44
Speaker 11: the next two weeks, I think it would be in
23:46
Speaker 11: the rearview mirror. Everybody would forget about it, and we'd
23:48
Speaker 11: move on. The question is can the president do whatever
23:52
Speaker 11: is necessary to lock in some kind of win that
23:55
Speaker 11: keeps those gas prices moving in the right direction in
23:58
Speaker 11: the next month. We just started this summer travel season
24:01
Speaker 11: in America, and so for a lot of people, those
24:04
Speaker 11: gas prices really come home to roost when it comes
24:07
Speaker 11: to how they can budget, and so if they move
24:10
Speaker 11: in the right direction, that's good. But this is all
24:13
Speaker 11: predicated on him getting some kind of peace or ceasefire
24:16
Speaker 11: that holds.
24:19
Speaker 1: And then of course you've got the midterm elections, which
24:21
Speaker 1: could custom control of the House of Representatives and the
24:24
Speaker 1: sent and turn him into a lame duck. So the
24:26
Speaker 1: stakes are extremely high. I just wonder Sean whether his
24:33
Speaker 1: problem with getting Vladimir Putin on board, his problem with
24:39
Speaker 1: making a deal with Hamas or that sticks, or with
24:43
Speaker 1: Hezbala or with Iran, is that Trump thinks that everyone
24:47
Speaker 1: is as pragmatic as he is, sort of driven by
24:50
Speaker 1: the same calculation of money and power, you know, the
24:54
Speaker 1: art of the deal, when in fact, with Putin is
24:57
Speaker 1: dealing with a Russian xenophobe, with you know, dreams of conquest,
25:01
Speaker 1: and with the Ran Hispalanamas is dealing with medieval religious crazies.
25:06
Speaker 1: You'd happily die trying.
25:09
Speaker 10: Yeah, and let's add China to the list, shall we.
25:13
Speaker 10: I think one of the things that to me is.
25:16
Speaker 11: In North Korea, who's you know, been largely quiet. But
25:19
Speaker 11: I think sometimes in America we forget and you actually
25:22
Speaker 11: point this out that we negotiate with people as if
25:25
Speaker 11: we're dealing with people in our country or other you know,
25:29
Speaker 11: Europeans or Australians, as opposed to people who, in the
25:32
Speaker 11: case of the Iranians, just diametrically oppose us, hate us,
25:37
Speaker 11: wish to overthrow us.
25:38
Speaker 10: It is, it is in their DNA, in their blood.
25:41
Speaker 11: And they don't They're not looking for a deal, a
25:43
Speaker 11: financial deal where they'll be able to rebuild or have
25:46
Speaker 11: control something.
25:47
Speaker 10: They want to beat us, you know, to kill us.
25:50
Speaker 11: And I think sometimes that gets lost on the negotiators.
25:56
Speaker 1: I think that's absolutely correct. Will Will said the show.
26:00
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the ultimate symbol of that was
26:02
Speaker 1: where he sold try to sell Palestinians the Riviera on
26:06
Speaker 1: the Mediterranean that it helped rebuild it. And it seems
26:09
Speaker 1: to me there are too many people just want to
26:11
Speaker 1: kill Jews to worry about that. Now the President has
26:15
Speaker 1: got Australia to accept three used Virginia class nuclear submarines
26:21
Speaker 1: under this Orcusttel instead of the promised two used ones
26:25
Speaker 1: and one new one. Doesn't have a new one to
26:27
Speaker 1: spare telling us that well, three used ones is better, easier, simpler.
26:32
Speaker 1: Does this actually show the trouble the United States is
26:35
Speaker 1: in trying to arm itself to meet this very dangerous
26:39
Speaker 1: China challenge.
26:40
Speaker 11: Well, it's a great question you're asking, because I think
26:43
Speaker 11: the safer the rest of the world is, whether it's
26:46
Speaker 11: NATO and NATO countries or Australia part of this aucust deal,
26:51
Speaker 11: the better we all are, right, So I think you
26:53
Speaker 11: guys are uniquely positioned when it comes to China, and
26:57
Speaker 11: so the stronger Australia is as a country, as a navy,
27:01
Speaker 11: as a military overall, and the same is true with
27:05
Speaker 11: our brethren over there in Europe. The part of the
27:08
Speaker 11: NATO forces, the better for us all, because if it's
27:11
Speaker 11: just the United States that's carrying the burden, that's a problem.
27:14
Speaker 10: So I like this.
27:16
Speaker 11: In fact, I'm a huge fan of what Trump has
27:18
Speaker 11: been doing to get NATO to live up to its
27:21
Speaker 11: own obligations, because a stronger NATO is stronger Europe. A
27:24
Speaker 11: stronger Australia is good for the world, it's good for
27:27
Speaker 11: world peace, it's good as a check against China. So
27:30
Speaker 11: you know, again, I think that we need to understand
27:33
Speaker 11: that the US carrying and shouldering the burden isn't just
27:37
Speaker 11: a financial thing. To kind of talk about or dovetail
27:40
Speaker 11: off this negotiation thing. All of us collectively being stronger
27:45
Speaker 11: is good collectively for world peace.
27:49
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you on what is done with NATO.
27:53
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you on the principle of making
27:56
Speaker 1: Astray stronger. But I think the problem is, of course,
27:59
Speaker 1: if you've done one of your scarce or do not donate,
28:02
Speaker 1: sell one of your scarce nuclear submarines new to Australia
28:07
Speaker 1: that could be lost in a war with China, not
28:10
Speaker 1: an ally made stronger. As China rises, I'm afraid that
28:13
Speaker 1: Australia may surrender. Sean Spice to thank you so much
28:17
Speaker 1: for your time, you better see you next week. After
28:21
Speaker 1: the break, the ABC announces a new podcast with Grace Tame,
28:26
Speaker 1: who's called for an intifada in Australia. The panel after this. Now,
28:36
Speaker 1: before I get to Grace Tame in the ABC, something
28:39
Speaker 1: from Canberra that sounds to me, well, it could be ominous.
28:43
Speaker 1: Now we've had America telling us right that, well, actually
28:46
Speaker 1: these nuclear subs were going to sell you, the ones
28:49
Speaker 1: Australia really paid one point six billion dollars for just
28:52
Speaker 1: as a deposit. You're not going to get quite what
28:56
Speaker 1: we promise to give you. We're going to give you
28:59
Speaker 1: three years subs, not the two used ones and the
29:02
Speaker 1: one knew that Australia was actually counting on. Well, this
29:07
Speaker 1: has encouraged some labor to unleash on the anti Trump
29:13
Speaker 1: and anti American then them there they're so inspired at
29:16
Speaker 1: Hugh Sick, former minister today, tell the Labor party room
29:20
Speaker 1: the whole deal should be off.
29:22
Speaker 12: It should be rethought because I think based on the
29:26
Speaker 12: production rates, based on reality, this is going to be
29:28
Speaker 12: forced on us. They've got two shipyards only that build
29:31
Speaker 12: these subs. They have workforce shortages, they have supply chain constraints,
29:37
Speaker 12: they have quality concerns, and there's the complexity of the build.
29:41
Speaker 1: The treasure.
29:42
Speaker 13: Those said as if are we support the Orcas arrangement.
29:50
Speaker 1: Now though long came former Labor ministers singer Peter Garrett
29:54
Speaker 1: from Midnight Island. We all know that's one of the
29:56
Speaker 1: Prime Minister's favorite bands. To say that his head a
30:00
Speaker 1: so called people's inquiry into this Orcust steel, that he
30:04
Speaker 1: is an anti new campaign from way back.
30:06
Speaker 13: Hates The irony is that we are launching a public
30:10
Speaker 13: inquiry in Parliament House where there has been no substantive
30:15
Speaker 13: debate about aucust at all.
30:18
Speaker 1: Joining Meir Meir Schlift, the executive director of the Samuel
30:21
Speaker 1: Griffith Society, and Michael Danby, former federal labor politician and
30:25
Speaker 1: chairman then of the Joint Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs,
30:27
Speaker 1: Defense and Trade. Michael ed Huston, Competer Garrett plus former
30:31
Speaker 1: premise of Paul Kedding all dead against the Orcist deal.
30:35
Speaker 1: Isn't now serious split in labor brewing on this issue? Well?
30:40
Speaker 3: Alas poor Ed I knew him well. I thought he
30:43
Speaker 3: was just doing this for revenge, because he's not a
30:48
Speaker 3: minister to sabotage our most important defense alignment. But looking
30:52
Speaker 3: at that press conference and the preparation, and particularly the
30:56
Speaker 3: presentation of that daft old admiral who was a part
30:59
Speaker 3: of the game up there, who was saying that China
31:02
Speaker 3: is going to take this, I think there's something much
31:04
Speaker 3: more serious.
31:05
Speaker 1: Barry.
31:06
Speaker 3: I think this is an attempt to really put torpedo
31:10
Speaker 3: orcus and I wouldn't underestimate it. I still think that
31:15
Speaker 3: it will go ahead. But as Peter said on the
31:18
Speaker 3: previous program to this, maybe they're pushing an open door.
31:21
Speaker 3: Elbow has never been a great supporter of the American alliance.
31:28
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting, you know, Chris Barry is the admiral
31:30
Speaker 1: you're thinking of. Here's one that I've picked a few
31:33
Speaker 1: times for his extraordinary climate alarmism. And today he said, well,
31:37
Speaker 1: China's going to be he's with this inquiry business and
31:40
Speaker 1: he said, oh, China is there going to be the
31:42
Speaker 1: world's great superpower soon, and we should adjust our defense
31:46
Speaker 1: forces accordingly. I don't know what that means. We run
31:49
Speaker 1: up the Chinese flag, we coump down, we sink all
31:53
Speaker 1: our we surrender Miya schlift. Is this something? Is this
31:57
Speaker 1: something we should worry about?
32:00
Speaker 14: If that's a narrative that's been pushed forward, absolutely that's
32:03
Speaker 14: something we should worry about. I mean the orciret still,
32:05
Speaker 14: for a long time, Australia's defense capabilities has centered around
32:10
Speaker 14: our alliance with the United States. And if we're seeing
32:12
Speaker 14: this split in Labor that's a bit of a problem.
32:15
Speaker 14: And whether that's because they don't think we're quite getting
32:17
Speaker 14: a good deal with Orcis or whether that's because there's
32:20
Speaker 14: this deep seated anti Trump sentiment that's been brewing in
32:23
Speaker 14: the Labor Party for some time. Well, it doesn't really
32:25
Speaker 14: matter if we want to get rid of Orcis, and
32:28
Speaker 14: we better get really serious and really quick about our
32:31
Speaker 14: defense capabilities here in Australia. We need to learn to
32:34
Speaker 14: stand on our own two feet, which might not necessarily
32:37
Speaker 14: be a bad thing. We definitely are not investing nearly
32:40
Speaker 14: as much in defense as we should be. But certainly,
32:43
Speaker 14: if this is a narrative that this government is going
32:45
Speaker 14: to push out and communicate to the United States, we
32:48
Speaker 14: need to get serious about our own defense capabilities here
32:50
Speaker 14: in Australia.
32:53
Speaker 1: If we're going to get serious, we're going to start
32:55
Speaker 1: with this assumption that we cannot defend ourselves against China alone.
32:59
Speaker 1: We do need in la And the only one in
33:01
Speaker 1: the offering really is America loathed Trump or like him?
33:05
Speaker 1: That is it. And so those that say oh no, no,
33:09
Speaker 1: China's the rising force to me that has got really
33:12
Speaker 1: big whiskers on it. Michael as I said earlier, Donald
33:16
Speaker 1: Trump reportedly abusing Israel's Prime minister, telling Etnier, who is
33:21
Speaker 1: effing crazy? You'd be in jail if Trump hadn't saved
33:25
Speaker 1: this ass. Pardon for the language. That's apparently what Trump said.
33:29
Speaker 1: And yeah, Trump said, everyone already hates Israel. Pull out
33:32
Speaker 1: eleven on stop attacking. Is Trump speaking the truth or
33:35
Speaker 1: is Trump being desperate?
33:38
Speaker 3: Trump is unfortunately falling for an Iranian strategem, which is
33:43
Speaker 3: to link what's happening in Lebanon with events in.
33:48
Speaker 1: The Straits of Home Was.
33:49
Speaker 3: I think you should concentrate just on that, because there's
33:52
Speaker 3: a small military change, the introduction of FPV drones into
33:58
Speaker 3: southern Lebanon and northern Israel that make northern Israel eighty
34:01
Speaker 3: thousand people virtually uninhabitable. These are whire guided twenty kilometer
34:07
Speaker 3: drones that the Uranians have given to Hezbollah to sabotage
34:11
Speaker 3: the seats ceasefire in Lebanon.
34:14
Speaker 1: And as you.
34:15
Speaker 3: Said before, Andrew, the president of Lebanon, assuring Donald Trump
34:18
Speaker 3: is no guarantee. He doesn't even control his own country.
34:21
Speaker 3: He can't tell Hesbela what to do.
34:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, And when you say, you know this wire god
34:28
Speaker 1: of things, we're talking about drones now that have got
34:30
Speaker 1: quite a bit of explosive on them, and they've got
34:32
Speaker 1: these very very fine threads, so you can't What they
34:36
Speaker 1: do is pass the radio signal all the way from
34:38
Speaker 1: an operator on the ground through these threads twenty kilometers long.
34:42
Speaker 1: They can go now, and you can't distrate these signals
34:45
Speaker 1: with electronic warfare, no countermeasures unless you go through with
34:48
Speaker 1: the giant peris is cut cut cut. Look, I'm running
34:52
Speaker 1: out of time me, but so I'll skip to the
34:56
Speaker 1: next one because I do want to get onto this.
35:01
Speaker 1: The ABC has given a new podcast, as Opposed on
35:05
Speaker 1: Autism to Grace Tame, who earlier this year called for
35:10
Speaker 1: an interfada in Australia. And this is following the Bondo massacre,
35:14
Speaker 1: which is what an interfada allegedly looks like. And the
35:19
Speaker 1: ABC is now busy promoting this with friendly interviews like this.
35:24
Speaker 1: We're here to talk to Grace Tame.
35:26
Speaker 12: Thanks for joining us today, Grace yay, yeah, yeah.
35:30
Speaker 6: You You've been called all sorts of things throughout your life, sensitive, divisive,
35:35
Speaker 6: non compliant, and back in February you were called difficult.
35:39
Speaker 12: Find an other than our prime minister.
35:40
Speaker 1: I thought you were just listing things that my dad
35:42
Speaker 1: said that. Now even host Charlie Pickering isn't impressed, as
35:47
Speaker 1: he told a vmeny of Rebel News have looked.
35:51
Speaker 15: I do actually think it's problematic. That's my personal opinion.
35:55
Speaker 15: And I think as you would understand and as a
35:59
Speaker 15: Jewish Australian. There is a complete misunderstanding of a lot
36:02
Speaker 15: of the words that are said and what the true
36:03
Speaker 15: meaning of them are, and a lot of people are
36:05
Speaker 15: using words and phrases that have meaning well beyond what
36:09
Speaker 15: they think they do.
36:11
Speaker 1: The word and phrase being globalized with intofada grace time
36:15
Speaker 1: a good ABC higher.
36:18
Speaker 14: Mia absolutely not Andrew, I cannot believe this decision, even
36:23
Speaker 14: coming from the ABC. This is still a shock to me.
36:26
Speaker 14: It's more than just tone death for the wrong decision.
36:29
Speaker 14: This is a calculated one they have made, and to
36:32
Speaker 14: platform someone who has said such horrendous thing time after
36:37
Speaker 14: time and has not only made those errors and had
36:40
Speaker 14: serious lapses in judgment, she has also shown not a
36:43
Speaker 14: single ounce of remorse for those comments and the damage
36:47
Speaker 14: that has inflicted since. So for me, I cannot believe
36:50
Speaker 14: the ABC is pursuing this at every single step along
36:54
Speaker 14: the way. The ABC seems determined to divide this country
36:57
Speaker 14: and I think it's only a matter of times until
36:59
Speaker 14: we start questioning why we're still being forced to fund them.
37:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, now me, I've got to question you. I've got
37:07
Speaker 1: to interrogate you here, hold you up here, because you
37:10
Speaker 1: twice said I cannot believe that the ABC would do this. Seriously, unfortunately,
37:16
Speaker 1: I could. Do you really mean that?
37:19
Speaker 10: Well?
37:19
Speaker 14: I think the ABC for some time now has really
37:22
Speaker 14: tested my patience. But for me, this is a young
37:25
Speaker 14: woman who has come out. She has made these comments
37:28
Speaker 14: such as globalizing into FATA after the tragic Bondai massacre,
37:31
Speaker 14: and she has shown no remorse and I think it's unfortunately.
37:35
Speaker 14: Perhaps many Australians across the country do believe that the
37:38
Speaker 14: ABC could make such a decision, and that's why so
37:41
Speaker 14: many have lost faith. And if you look at the
37:43
Speaker 14: polling as the number of Australians who no longer want
37:45
Speaker 14: to fund the ABC, those numbers are quite shocking and
37:49
Speaker 14: I think it's time that our parliamentarians responded.
37:53
Speaker 1: Well, it's turned the liberal Paty got the guts to
37:56
Speaker 1: say the ABC must be privatised a subscription service Scane news.
38:02
Speaker 1: There's no reason why all taxpayers should have to fund it.
38:05
Speaker 1: If they want to do this sort of stuff, let
38:08
Speaker 1: them be paid for both people who appreciate it, not
38:11
Speaker 1: certainly not by people like me or you at that matter, Michael.
38:16
Speaker 1: Extraordinary decision, really, isn't it. Well?
38:19
Speaker 3: The ABC has got less digital subscribers than Sky already,
38:23
Speaker 3: but that's in the digital area. I think that their
38:26
Speaker 3: audience would collapse if they were forced to go to
38:30
Speaker 3: subscription or if there was some voluntary element in it.
38:35
Speaker 3: I just can't believe how they constantly signal they don't
38:39
Speaker 3: make any attempt to make allowances for their bad behavior.
38:46
Speaker 3: The reporting of their Middle East correspondence is universally shocking.
38:52
Speaker 3: There's always the human interest story in civilians who've been
38:56
Speaker 3: killed when Israel Is in South Lebanon, But there's nothing
38:59
Speaker 3: about these FPV drones that you know about that come
39:03
Speaker 3: from the war in Ukraine that have been pushed in
39:05
Speaker 3: there by China Vyer Iran to make Donald Trump's life worse.
39:10
Speaker 1: And you know, you just have.
39:12
Speaker 3: Endless propaganda from the ABC on all kinds of issues,
39:16
Speaker 3: from grace tame to the war in the Middle East.
39:21
Speaker 1: Absolutely, what do you think me? Do you think it's
39:25
Speaker 1: like the Liberals are too scared, to say privatised to
39:29
Speaker 1: sell the ABC because I think one a number of
39:32
Speaker 1: them think that the ABC is great, and the other
39:35
Speaker 1: is they I think the ABC will kill them, will
39:37
Speaker 1: murder them in an election campaign. Do you think the
39:40
Speaker 1: ABC is too big to challenge, or it's too obviously
39:44
Speaker 1: a problem to ignore.
39:46
Speaker 14: No, I think it's absolutely too obvious for a problem
39:48
Speaker 14: to ignore. We passed the point here, or we can
39:50
Speaker 14: ignore such a large issue in this country. I think
39:53
Speaker 14: what's interesting is Pauline Hanson has made her stance very
39:56
Speaker 14: clear on what she thinks should be done with the ABC,
39:58
Speaker 14: and that is of course funded. And I think it's
40:02
Speaker 14: only a matter of time that maybe the Liberals wake
40:04
Speaker 14: up to the fact that this is what Australians really want.
40:07
Speaker 14: The rot in the ABC is too deep. It doesn't
40:10
Speaker 14: matter what change of leadership we see. We've seen a
40:13
Speaker 14: number of leaders come in and say that they are
40:15
Speaker 14: going to reform the way the ABC works and try
40:18
Speaker 14: and stamp out some of this ideology. And time after time,
40:21
Speaker 14: the ABC just proved that it is beyond saving.
40:26
Speaker 1: It is beyond saving absolutely. Imircially Michael Danby, thank you
40:30
Speaker 1: to you both. After the break outrage in Britain as
40:34
Speaker 1: police handcuff a teenager falsely accused of racism as he
40:38
Speaker 1: lies dying at their feet from the stab wounds of
40:43
Speaker 1: the man who accused them. Now warning, I'm going to
40:50
Speaker 1: show video that they will upset some viewers. Britain is
40:55
Speaker 1: a torn country and now comes a tragedy that's going
40:58
Speaker 1: to rip it wider apart. Eighteen year old Henry Noaki
41:03
Speaker 1: was walking down the street when he was stabbed by
41:05
Speaker 1: a young Sikh man carrying a knife as part of
41:08
Speaker 1: his religion. When police turned up, that man victim, do
41:12
Speaker 1: you he lied? He falsely claimed Henry had racially abused him. Incredibly,
41:20
Speaker 1: the police then handcuffed the dying Henry the victim and
41:26
Speaker 1: not his killer, even though Henry told them repeatedly he
41:29
Speaker 1: had been stabbed and had trouble breathing. And again, some
41:34
Speaker 1: of you may find this vision disturbing. You've been starved whereabouts.
41:44
Speaker 13: To pick up?
41:48
Speaker 1: And now victorim Digwa was yesterday given a life sentence,
41:53
Speaker 1: but Henry's father is naturally still devastated and this has
41:57
Speaker 1: become a political storm.
42:00
Speaker 3: Instead of being treated as a dying victim, police formally
42:04
Speaker 3: arrested Henry for assault and read in his right that
42:08
Speaker 3: was the last thing he heard.
42:12
Speaker 1: Indeed, Reform leader Nigel Faraj just turn this into a
42:16
Speaker 1: campaigning issue.
42:18
Speaker 16: A young man is stabbed five times in the street,
42:23
Speaker 16: the police are called the assailant, the man who's committed
42:27
Speaker 16: the stabbing, says mister Novak made racist comments as a
42:31
Speaker 16: result of that, The police don't believe that he's been stabbed,
42:37
Speaker 16: don't check that he's been stabbed, put him in handcuffs
42:41
Speaker 16: and he dies lying on the ground. Does this remind
42:45
Speaker 16: you of the George Floyd case just a few years
42:48
Speaker 16: ago that happened in the Midwest of America. Within twenty
42:51
Speaker 16: four hours of that, because Floyd was black, we had
42:55
Speaker 16: Parliament statue being defaced in Parliament Square of the most
43:01
Speaker 16: extraordinary kind. And yet, and yet, has the Prime Minister
43:06
Speaker 16: taken them the knee for this young man in the
43:08
Speaker 16: way that he did for George Floyd? Has he Hell,
43:11
Speaker 16: it's almost as if because he's white and he was
43:15
Speaker 16: accused of racism that nobody cares.
43:19
Speaker 1: Joining me from London is Talk TV host Samara gild Samara,
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Speaker 1: thank you for your time. Again, people do care. Of course,
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Speaker 1: the family went on to praise the detectives who took
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Speaker 1: over the case from the police of the year scene,
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Speaker 1: some of whom since quit. But what has been the
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Speaker 1: wider reaction.
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Speaker 5: Look, the reaction is the fact that today we can
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Speaker 5: clearly see with this case that an accusation of a
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Speaker 5: racial slur is treated more seriously by the police than
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Speaker 5: actual murder. Andrew, that's what's going on here, and that's
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Speaker 5: because of all this crazy positive discrimination that's been brought in. Interestingly,
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Speaker 5: a Southampton police officer, so the same constabulary that was
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Speaker 5: to do with Henry Noak's case, leaked to the Telegraph
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Speaker 5: last night that police officers are told that they must
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Speaker 5: respond in different ways according to the ethnicity of those
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Speaker 5: involved in the crime. They're also told, or he basically
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Speaker 5: said that there is a dei agenda whereby people get
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Speaker 5: promoted not on the basis of merit, but on the
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Speaker 5: basis of their racial or religious origin. And this story
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Speaker 5: is particularly harrowing because someone else also called nine nine
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Speaker 5: nine at the same time as this happened and said
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Speaker 5: that someone had been stabbed, referring to Henry.
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Speaker 10: Again.
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Speaker 5: The police did not believe that person and believed Vicram Digwa,
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Speaker 5: who at the time him and his family were already
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Speaker 5: hiding evidence and conspiring against Henry Noak and trying to basically,
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Speaker 5: they took his phone, they tried to discarded that which
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Speaker 5: had the recording of what happened on it, and also,
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Speaker 5: of course the kirpan, which may I remind the Australian
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Speaker 5: audience is still legal to carry in Australia, and that
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Speaker 5: is the Sikh ceremonial sword, which absolutely does not have
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Speaker 5: to be carried in Australia. My own father is from
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Speaker 5: the region where there are many Sikhs that lived there
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Speaker 5: in India, and you just carry a tiny one. You
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Speaker 5: don't have to be carrying a massive ceremonial knife, the
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Speaker 5: one that killed Henry Noak.
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Speaker 1: It's so strange Samara, where you think police attend a
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Speaker 1: scene there's a guy on the ground saying I've been stabbed,
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Speaker 1: There's a guy standing up saying I've been racially abused,
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Speaker 1: and they react to the guy who says has been
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Speaker 1: racially abused like that is the most heinous thing they've
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Speaker 1: been told. Of the two stories, It's even.
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Speaker 5: Worse than that, Andrew, because I was actually reading the
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Speaker 5: court documents last night and Bigram Digwa was afforded a
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Speaker 5: level of decency that Henry was not. Reports suggest he
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Speaker 5: wasn't even handcuffed when he was arrested. He was the murderer,
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Speaker 5: he wasn't even handcuffed. Also, officers reportedly took Digwa to
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Speaker 5: the kitchen and allowed him to choose his own food
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Speaker 5: while he was in custody. Again, special treatment for the
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Speaker 5: murderer who had slashed, stabbed and then lied to the
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Speaker 5: police and law enforcement all the way through this. And
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Speaker 5: this special treatment cannot go on. As Farage has been saying,
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Speaker 5: it seems like it's one rule for British people and
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Speaker 5: then another for any ethnic minority, and that just can't
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Speaker 5: go on. It needs to be one rule for all.
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Speaker 5: And unfortunately, or fortunately, this is a tipping point for
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Speaker 5: Britain to say, we cannot be pandering to other cultures
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Speaker 5: in this way. We need to make sure that there
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Speaker 5: is fairness in every single level of society. Fish rots
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Speaker 5: from the head downwards and unfortunately, this is an institutional
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Speaker 5: problem that Britain is now dealing with. And an eighteen
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Speaker 5: year old is dead and not able to live his
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Speaker 5: life because of this institutional rot.
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Speaker 1: I see that the London Daily Telegraph, as just the
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Speaker 1: last hour or so I think, led this on its website.
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Speaker 1: At least this is two tier justice. They're going very
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Speaker 1: big on it. That's one of the words great papers.
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Speaker 1: One of my very very favorites is Henry's death and
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Speaker 1: the initial police reaction. Just the tragedy, is it just
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Speaker 1: the random crime or as a symbol, as you seem
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Speaker 1: to suggest, there of something wider, as Farage obviously claims.
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Speaker 5: I think when we look at the details the way
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Speaker 5: that as you showed in that video Andrew police totally
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Speaker 5: didn't believe Henry, didn't even check the fact that he
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Speaker 5: had well he had a slash on his face we know,
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Speaker 5: and he had slashes in his legs and growing area,
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Speaker 5: and he was internally bleeding. We do know that even
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Speaker 5: if police had acted, they couldn't have helped him because
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Speaker 5: that's how deep the wounds were. But you're right, it's
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Speaker 5: a bigger problem when you see the details and you
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Speaker 5: see the mistreatment of Henry and how his word was
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Speaker 5: used against him.
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Speaker 1: Well, honestly, Britain has got some accounty to do it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the whole poison of race politics in the West.
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Speaker 1: You're getting stupidity on still slight this, Samara Gill, thank
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Speaker 1: you so much for your time. Talk to you next week. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: the whole identity politics stuff has crippled the West, really
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Speaker 1: has That's it from me. Coming up next is the
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Speaker 1: excellent Sharry markson Good Night