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Toxic Chemical Plants | Human Composting · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty typi. Handle here on a Monday morning.
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  Speaker 2: Tomorrow the primary, So we'll talk about the elections tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: There's obviously a lot to talk about, particularly the gubernatorial race.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't had one of these like this in a
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  Speaker 2: very long time. Also, we're getting some news from Iran.
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  Speaker 2: They are stopping all talks while the war in Lebanon continues.
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  Speaker 2: Now that gets interesting because Natanahu is going balls to
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  Speaker 2: the wall and I'm thinking, I believe that the President
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  Speaker 2: is going to put huge pressure on Natanyahu to hold
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  Speaker 2: off the attacks on Lebanon to get the Iran and.
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  Speaker 1: Runnion deal made.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here's a story that I want to share with you,
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  Speaker 2: and it's about southern California across the board. It's an
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  Speaker 2: LA time story, so specifically about La, but this goes
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  Speaker 2: Orange County just as easily.
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  Speaker 1: So it's all of us who live in those two counties.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So ten thousand city residents sixty two thousand county wide
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  Speaker 2: left last year, Okay, a lot of people leaving, which means, okay,
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  Speaker 2: there should be homes available, right, Nope, home prices and
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  Speaker 2: rents among the nation's highest, and still very difficult to
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  Speaker 2: get why the paradox, well, it stems from smaller households,
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  Speaker 2: decades of underbuilding owners reluctant to sell. So even a
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  Speaker 2: loss of population has not eased this long standing housing shortage. Well,
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  Speaker 2: something we know lower income renters are being priced out,
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  Speaker 2: replaced by wealthier newcomers because they're the only ones can
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  Speaker 2: afford it. There's widening inequality. We know that, and it
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  Speaker 2: raises questions about who gets to stay and what does well,
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  Speaker 2: what are what is our city going to look like?
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  Speaker 2: So it's not a huge mass exodus. La lost ten
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  Speaker 2: thousand residents last year. La County lost sixty two thousand residents.
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  Speaker 2: Orange County lost tens of thousands of residents.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, a few.
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  Speaker 2: Economists are going, ooh, this has real implications, so many
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  Speaker 2: people skipping town. But you know, the numbers are not
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  Speaker 2: relative to the population of what's going on. The numbers
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  Speaker 2: are not huge, but they're really really probably problematic. So
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  Speaker 2: the thing seems to always stay the same. About southern California.
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  Speaker 2: The number one, two, three, four, and five issue is housing.
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  Speaker 2: Housing is still too expensive. So look what happens. Typically,
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  Speaker 2: a population declines and you have an aging housing stock,
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  Speaker 2: and you think of the rest belt. Okay, for example,
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  Speaker 2: or land loss value, people abandon their homes they sold
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  Speaker 2: for next to nothing. But in southern California, vanishing jobs, immigration.
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  Speaker 1: Cracks down, housing still is sky high. Huh.
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  Speaker 2: Now, there has been a slight dip in home values,
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  Speaker 2: but man, a slight dip is nothing compared to the cost.
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  Speaker 2: And there has been a slight uptick in vacancy rates. Again,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't do much. Okay, during since twenty sixteen, right,
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  Speaker 2: we have four hundred thousand people leaving La County. During
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  Speaker 2: that stretch, home prices and rents have doubled. Okay, So
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of factors at play. But here's one trend
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  Speaker 2: that's often overlooked. Household composition. What does that mean? Well,
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  Speaker 2: people are moving out of La Orange County, but households
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  Speaker 2: are becoming small, so the number of households that require
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  Speaker 2: housing is actually rising. You've got the number of one
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  Speaker 2: to two person household is rising, while three plus person
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  Speaker 2: households are falling, which means we need more housing. A
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  Speaker 2: single family home that once held a family of four
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  Speaker 2: now holds a couple with no kids.
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  Speaker 1: So here's a stat.
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  Speaker 2: In twenty ten, the average household size in La County
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  Speaker 2: was two point nine to eight. In twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 2: it was two point eight one. Now that is marginal,
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  Speaker 2: that's a tiny little difference, but it represents hundreds of
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  Speaker 2: thousands of people. You have a growing housing stock accommodating
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  Speaker 2: fewer people, and this is coming from both the young
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  Speaker 2: and the old. Declining marriage rates from people in their
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  Speaker 2: twenties and thirties, lower birth rates, older people who live
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  Speaker 2: alone after their spouse dies both lead to smaller average households.
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  Speaker 2: So you have fewer people that are living where they
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  Speaker 2: used to live, and those people that do live and
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  Speaker 2: want to stay, they need housing.
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  Speaker 1: So imagine this.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I have a house and I used to have
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  Speaker 2: four people in the house. I now have two people
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  Speaker 2: and I have two daughters, and they need a place
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  Speaker 2: to live.
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  Speaker 1: So where there used to.
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  Speaker 2: Be one house, I now need three houses, or the
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  Speaker 2: society needs three houses.
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  Speaker 1: So how do they.
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  Speaker 2: Afford to live here with these insane prices in southern California. Well,
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  Speaker 2: they're the children of a real stupid dad and they
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  Speaker 2: have convinced dad to pay for it.
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  Speaker 1: That's how they're doing.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that they're going to get to a
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  Speaker 3: place and because we're one party rule in California, where
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  Speaker 3: they will decide if you have two people that you
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  Speaker 3: can only purchase a certain size house.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, that would Why not because that would be unconstitutional.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't do that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't understand how they can say that everybody
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  Speaker 3: deserves to live in California.
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  Speaker 2: It's not everybody deserves to live in California. It's everybody
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  Speaker 2: wants to live in California, except people are leaving California.
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  Speaker 2: More people are leaving than coming in. The problem is
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  Speaker 2: the ones out are leaving don't have enough money. They
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  Speaker 2: can't afford it. So you had a bunch of people
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  Speaker 2: in a household, they're gone. So who's moving in? You
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  Speaker 2: have a couple, right, So you have four people moving
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  Speaker 2: in where four people used to live in a house.
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  Speaker 2: Now you have two still four people, but it's two
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  Speaker 2: cups and that means two places to live, and that
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  Speaker 2: is the problem.
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  Speaker 1: That is the problem.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I was an aberration where I had my
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  Speaker 2: place in my thirties. I was living with a girlfriend.
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  Speaker 2: We had a house together, and we broke up and
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  Speaker 2: therefore we needed two places to live, right, because there
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  Speaker 2: are where used to be one, there are now two
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  Speaker 2: places that have to be either rented or bought. And
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  Speaker 2: what I did instead, it was during It was a
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  Speaker 2: year in which I didn't know what I was doing.
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  Speaker 2: I moved back into my parents' home for a year. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have much sex that year, to be honest
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  Speaker 2: with you, because I would be introduced to people. Hi,
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  Speaker 2: my name is Bill. I'm a reasonably successful attorney, and
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  Speaker 2: I live with my mom and dad. That I'm thirty
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  Speaker 2: six years old. Okay, that's not impressive. But the exact
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  Speaker 2: opposite happens. We were four people and then we needed
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  Speaker 2: three places to live.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's every family it is now. But it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, get their families and move into house. I know.
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  Speaker 2: But it's more it's the numbers are getting bigger. The
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  Speaker 2: numbers getting bigger, and you couple that with people who
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  Speaker 2: can't afford to live here, who are a lower income,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what's going on. There's a housing shortage and
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  Speaker 2: it will stay for a very long time unless we
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  Speaker 2: change things, and we have to. Basically, we have to
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  Speaker 2: change the inequality, the income inequality. Okay, the story that
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  Speaker 2: was covered all over the country, and that happens to
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  Speaker 2: do with the gk N plant. This was the storage
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  Speaker 2: facility at that plant, and it was using and storing
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  Speaker 2: this chemical methyl mesa, cry late, metha, cried late, methone, methic,
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  Speaker 2: crid late okay, and other toxic chemicals. Here's and they
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  Speaker 2: evacuated fifty thousand people. I mean, this stuff is so
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  Speaker 2: toxic it can kill you pretty quickly. And two million
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  Speaker 2: Californians live in three million miles of that of any
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  Speaker 2: plant using this particular chemical. Wow, And to show you
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  Speaker 2: how dangerous it is, you have fifty thousand people evacuated,
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  Speaker 2: and you've got people who live right next door or
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  Speaker 2: relatively speaking, within three miles, and one point six million
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  Speaker 2: of them are here in southern California, one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: seventeen people living even closer within a mile of one
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  Speaker 2: of these facilities in La Orange Riverside counties. And this
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  Speaker 2: thing was well, the fear is that the leak was
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  Speaker 2: going to happen. It started with a leak, and you
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  Speaker 2: saw the fire fire folks just drowning that tank with
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  Speaker 2: water and trying to get it cool enough. Because what
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  Speaker 2: ends up happening. If there's a leak. From what I understand,
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  Speaker 2: the temperature goes up. That's dangerous enough. If it explodes,
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  Speaker 2: now you're talking about a god awful mess. So there's
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  Speaker 2: a pressure eye storage tank and it had seven thousand
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  Speaker 2: gallons of methyl chlor late and it's a chemical used
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  Speaker 2: in plastics manufacturing, and it was going towards either a
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  Speaker 2: dangerous leak or a dangerous explosion even worse. And so
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  Speaker 2: the good news is by Tuesday night they got it
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  Speaker 2: cleaned up, or at least they got it under control,
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  Speaker 2: so explosion was not going to happen. And they were
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  Speaker 2: cooling it down because when you have a leak, the
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  Speaker 2: temperature goes up on this thing because it has to
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  Speaker 2: be pressurized and cool down. And it wasn't happening. So
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  Speaker 2: they were scared to death.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And most of these plants, what a shocker here predominantly
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  Speaker 2: located in communities of color. Well, of course, an average
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  Speaker 2: of seventy seven percent of residents within a mile identifying
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  Speaker 2: as such. Sure, I mean people of color and minorities
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  Speaker 2: just have it worse across the board in any employment
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  Speaker 2: school near a chemical plant across the board, right, So
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  Speaker 2: what this company does not only does it manufacture this stuff,
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  Speaker 2: but there's waste and it goes off to a facility
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  Speaker 2: in Arizona where it's buried in the ground to generate
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  Speaker 2: heat and energy. Done properly, it is a source of
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  Speaker 2: heat and heat and.
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  Speaker 1: Energy.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, this was number one. This was the
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  Speaker 2: biggest plant that generated this MMA. Was called this heat
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  Speaker 2: and the waste that it produces. Number two was Tesla's
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  Speaker 2: plant and Fremont. About twenty two hundred people live within
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  Speaker 2: one mile of the Fremont facility. That's ten times less
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  Speaker 2: than people within the mile of the GNK or.
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  Speaker 1: Gk N facility. This is pretty dangerous stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And the problem is, all of a sudden, now we're
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  Speaker 2: looking at how these facilities, how dangerous they are, how
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  Speaker 2: close you are.
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  Speaker 1: But there's no way you can't live near those places.
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  Speaker 1: What do you do?
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  Speaker 2: You clear an area and then you instantly a developer
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  Speaker 2: comes in builds near that facility. I guess if you
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  Speaker 2: warn people when they're buying property. For example, if you're
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  Speaker 2: near a you have to warn people. If you're within
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  Speaker 2: a mile or a mile and a half, if someone
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  Speaker 2: dies in the house, you have to warn. You have
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  Speaker 2: to tell people about it, and I'm assuming the same
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  Speaker 2: thing happens here. Okay, the coke wars. Now you think
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  Speaker 2: it's diet coke versus the diet pepsi. I have a
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  Speaker 2: quick question, by the way, I was at a restaurant
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  Speaker 2: yesterday the day before, and I asked, you know, could
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  Speaker 2: I have a diet coke? And always when I get
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  Speaker 2: diet pepsi, is diet pepsi?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: And then whenever I go to a restaurant that has
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  Speaker 2: diet coke, and I've asked this question over and over again.
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  Speaker 2: Has anybody ever when you say, when they say I
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  Speaker 2: have a diet coke, I take a diet coke because
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  Speaker 2: anybody ever said, do you have diet pepsi instead? Do
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  Speaker 2: you really, Michelle? Or you are an outlier? You are
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  Speaker 2: a total.
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  Speaker 4: I also prefer ourc Cola to Coca Cola, which I
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  Speaker 4: just found in my grocery store.
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  Speaker 1: I found our cold Arca cool. It's a better deal
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  Speaker 1: because you're bigger bottles and it's better soda. Oh.
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  Speaker 2: I used to as a kid. I used to drink
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  Speaker 2: Arci Cola because she's got more for your money. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So it's usually the pepsi wars versus h the coke
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  Speaker 2: wars well, as I promoted in the last segment, we
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  Speaker 2: now have a civil war going on inside of Coca
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  Speaker 2: Cola and it has to do with diet coke versus
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  Speaker 2: coke zero. Oh, coke zero is exploding in sales. Diet
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  Speaker 2: coke is going up incrementally, Coke zero is going up.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about the increase in sales ten times more
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  Speaker 2: increase than diet coke. Now, if you ever go to Europe,
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  Speaker 2: they don't know from diet coke. All it is is
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  Speaker 2: coke zero, and it is I am not a fan
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  Speaker 2: of coke zero whenever, like I was, I think it
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  Speaker 2: was yesterday. I went and I get my days conflated,
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  Speaker 2: and as everybody knows on the show, yesterday I went, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it was yesterday. After yoga, are you ready for this?
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  Speaker 2: I am actually doing yoga.
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  Speaker 4: Is it regular yoga or hot yoga?
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  Speaker 2: It's not hot yoga, especially with especially with the women
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  Speaker 2: I do yoga there, it's anything but hot. I mean
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  Speaker 2: they're not youngsters and they're not in particularly good shape.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm doing yoga.
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  Speaker 2: And then afterwards I went to breakfast with a friend
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  Speaker 2: of mine who I do yoga with and it was
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  Speaker 2: is diet coke okay? His diet pepsi okay? And I went,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, no, don't do that to me.
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  Speaker 1: Please.
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  Speaker 2: Occasionally, when you do one of those fill a cup up,
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  Speaker 2: you know, those machines that are at costco ever, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you fill up whatever you want in all the different
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  Speaker 2: flavors that they have. Occasionally, honestly, diet coke, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: see coke zero and I'll just sit there and watch
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  Speaker 2: how many people are using the coke zero dispenser. Nobody, nobody.
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  Speaker 2: Coke zero is disgusting. Coke zero is a case. I'd
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  Speaker 2: rather have tomain poisoning than coke zero. I hate coke zero.
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  Speaker 2: That's one of the downsides of Europe. You go to Europe,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, it's not diet coke, it's coke a
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  Speaker 2: light because diet in uh over there in Europe has
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  Speaker 2: a medical significance. But it's just disgusting coke zero. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: how how could they? How could you?
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  Speaker 4: So you would absolutely notice it in a blind taste test.
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  Speaker 4: If we gave you a blind taste test with coke zero,
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  Speaker 4: diet coke diapepsy, you'd know which on with diet cot.
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  Speaker 2: Probably not, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I
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  Speaker 2: hate coke, zero cost.
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  Speaker 3: Of coke, zero coke, diet and diet PEPSI to see
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  Speaker 3: blind tastes. See which one you like best next time.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's I'm in the studio. We'll do that. We'll
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  Speaker 1: do that now.
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  Speaker 2: When we do a blind taste test, we actually have
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  Speaker 2: to have blind people do it. You know that, don't you? Okay, Now,
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  Speaker 2: as you know, I love death. Death is one of
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  Speaker 2: my favorite topics. I enjoy the entertainment value of it.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoy the sociological aspect of it.
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  Speaker 1: And I know, and I.
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  Speaker 2: Told you many times, we don't do death very well
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  Speaker 2: in the United States. You go to, for example, Ireland,
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  Speaker 2: they stick whoever is dead in a coffin on a
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  Speaker 2: couple of saw horses. Everybody dances around and gets completely
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  Speaker 2: drunk and just has a great time. It's just different
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  Speaker 2: ways of doing it around the country. So let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you what's going on that is growing like crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a facility out of Baltimore, and it's
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  Speaker 2: growing because the company has offices in San Francisco and
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  Speaker 2: New York. And it is called Earth Funeral and the
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  Speaker 2: process that it gives is soil transformation about six grand.
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  Speaker 2: A body is paced in a place in a vessel.
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  Speaker 2: It's like this big aluminum vessel thing actually looks like
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  Speaker 2: a capsule, and so therein goes the body, wood, chips, mulch,
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  Speaker 2: and wildflowers go in and after about a month you
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  Speaker 2: got two hundred and fifty pounds of compost that then
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  Speaker 2: can be returned to families to spread beneath a tree
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  Speaker 2: or place a memorial garden, or donated to a land
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  Speaker 2: conservation group. Okay, And it's adding to an expanding menu
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  Speaker 2: of eco friendly after death options that includes water cremation.
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  Speaker 2: That one is interesting because I don't know how you
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  Speaker 2: can cremate with a bunch of water there, but it's
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  Speaker 2: the thing I guess. There's also bio biodegradable caskets. Reef burials.
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  Speaker 2: That's a fun one where they take your ashes and
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  Speaker 2: put it into a concrete mold and you get whatever
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  Speaker 2: shape you want.
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  Speaker 1: You get dumped in the water and there's a reef
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, please, Okay, you know it's just where you
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  Speaker 2: like becoming a part of a reef.
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  Speaker 1: Well, why.
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  Speaker 2: Swim around and they crap all over the place and
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  Speaker 2: they're yeah, it sounds you'd.
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  Speaker 4: Rather be in a casket.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know at this point, I don't know. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: the chief executive says, the composting process is true to science.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, the sildy is thirty seven thousand square feet.
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  Speaker 2: There's a large room that can fit up to these
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty six capsule like vessels, and bodies
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  Speaker 2: are placed in those capsules and again mulch and whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and it's turned into soil. And another room allows families
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  Speaker 2: to view their loved ones and say a final goodbye.
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  Speaker 2: And they're looking at a bunch of dirt, is what
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  Speaker 2: they're looking at. So they're saying goodbye to a pile
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  Speaker 2: of dirt. Us very impressive. So a body is wrapped
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  Speaker 2: in a biodegradable shroud, placed with one hundred pounds of
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  Speaker 2: molt woodchips and wildflowers. I guess the wild plot flowers
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  Speaker 2: are part of sort of the thing. And they're inside
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  Speaker 2: this vessel thirty to forty five days, control temperature, moisture, oxygen,
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  Speaker 2: The microbes break it down and wow, there you go. Now,
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  Speaker 2: artificial joints, metal rods, plates, dental fillings, that is removed
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  Speaker 2: the end of the composting process and recycled. Uh okay,
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  Speaker 2: got it. Rods are placed or dental fillings recycled. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, there's a whole thing about dental fillings being
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  Speaker 2: recycled that one I don't want to get into. And
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  Speaker 2: the way these are the reason these are getting this
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  Speaker 2: is getting more and more scrutiny and getting more popular
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  Speaker 2: is because people don't like involving embalming chemicals, metal caskets,
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  Speaker 2: concrete vaults, large amounts of land, the cemetery use. And
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  Speaker 2: when you think about it, for someone to embalm that
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  Speaker 2: is licensed, so you have to go to school and
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: get licensed. For someone to put this together, you need
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: someone that knows how to garden. So someone that walks
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: up with a gardening rake, Okay, you're hired. So there
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: their advantages to this. People are adopting greener lifestyles and
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: that's what this is about. Also, the cost is less too.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Conventional funeral averages about eighty three hundred dollars. I don't
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: know how you do at eight three hundred dollars for
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: a conventional funeral in southern California, and that's before cemetery
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: and other burial costs add thousands. Cremation averages about sixty
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  Speaker 2: three hundred dollars, and this is about six thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: to do this biodegradable.
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  Speaker 1: You turn into a bunch of mulch.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Washington State became the first to legalize human composting.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I love that the entire phrase the business is regulated
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  Speaker 2: tightly in the US requires legislative approval, and as of
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: last September legal in fourteen states. I don't think California
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: is one of them. And so the funeral homes are
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: jumping on this. Well, they have to jump on everything
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: because they fought cream for years and years, and now
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: they are dealing with cremation. They fought with and people
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: didn't want to do burial at sea, which is not legal. Incidentally,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: if you're within I think twelve miles of shore and
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: for the benefit of Amy, where I think Amy's going
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: to do it. There are crazy people, crazy people that
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: are cremated and the ashes are spread its Disneyland.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: No, yes, that's not amazing. Legal, that is I'm telling
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: of course it's illegal.
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  Speaker 2: But they sneak in various rides, or they sneak into
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: one of those flower beds and dump the ashes because
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: there are crazy people out there. Okay, we're talking about
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: crazy people. We're done, We are completely done. Tomorrow we
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: come back. It's Primary Day. We'll talk a lot about that.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: And Neil is here this week and still gone. Michelle
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: is here for the next couple of weeks, and uh
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: we do this again, same time, same station, and Gary
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and Shannon are up next.
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