Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Mark LePage, Senior Vice President of Medical Groups and Ambulatory Strategy at Trinity Health
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- 1:14This is Laura Virdo with the Becker's Healthcare
- 1:17podcast.
- 1:17I'm thrilled today to be joined by Mark
- 1:19LePage, senior vice president of medical groups and
- 1:21inventory strategy at Trinity Health. Mark, it's a
- 1:24pleasure to have you on the podcast today.
- 1:26Laura, it's great to be with you and
- 1:28looking forward to our conversation.
- 1:30Absolutely. And, you know, this will be a
- 1:32great conversation. I know we'll be talking about
- 1:34some of the things you're doing at Trinity,
- 1:36the ambulatory side, the ways that you're continuing
- 1:38to expand and grow, within the broader system.
- 1:41And so that's a really exciting topic. I
- 1:42know it comes up,
- 1:44as something that a lot of different organizations
- 1:46are looking at and trying to figure out.
- 1:48And so it'd be great to learn more
- 1:50about what you're doing at Trinity. But before
- 1:51we dive into that discussion,
- 1:53can you tell us a little bit more
- 1:54about yourself and the health system overall?
- 1:58Yeah. I'd be glad to.
- 1:59So,
- 2:00currently, as you said, in my current role
- 2:03at Trinity Health, which I've been in for
- 2:043 years, I oversee our medical groups and
- 2:07ambulatory strategy.
- 2:09In that role, I oversee our 15 medical
- 2:11groups, which are really positioned across the country.
- 2:14Within the medical group portion of Trinity Health,
- 2:17we have about 2,800,000
- 2:19members that call our primary care providers their
- 2:22home.
- 2:23And we employ 7,000,
- 2:26physicians and advanced practice practitioners as part of
- 2:29our medical groups.
- 2:30As I said, we're organized into 15 regional
- 2:33medical groups that really span across the country
- 2:37from Fresno
- 2:38all the way to Albany and down to
- 2:40Fort Lauderdale,
- 2:42and a number of sites in between.
- 2:45And as you highlighted,
- 2:47during your introduction,
- 2:48a lot of our focus right now is
- 2:50how do we continue to evolve our approach
- 2:53into,
- 2:55ambulatory care and the medical groups that we
- 2:57oversee are a big portion of that. Prior
- 3:00to my current role, I did have the
- 3:01opportunity to lead our large medical group in
- 3:04Southeast Michigan, IHA. I did that for 4
- 3:06years with Trinity Health before my current role.
- 3:10Well, that's fascinating to hear. And what trends
- 3:12are you watching currently?
- 3:15You know, there's a a number of things.
- 3:17I think first and foremost, you know, as
- 3:18we're looking at at, the demographic trends in
- 3:21the country,
- 3:23The country is aging and it's aging fairly
- 3:26rapidly. And so in most markets, most parts
- 3:29of the United States, the fastest growing segment
- 3:31of the population is
- 3:34the age segment that's traditionally retired, so over
- 3:3665.
- 3:38And we think this is gonna have some
- 3:39unique challenges
- 3:41for us in health care as we think
- 3:42about that.
- 3:44In particular, we know that those folks
- 3:48that are aging
- 3:49are gonna require more care. So we're gonna
- 3:51have to figure out how to deliver more
- 3:54care with a workforce that's roughly the same
- 3:56size, as it is today because we don't
- 3:59see a lot of growth in most of
- 4:01our markets in the traditional working age population.
- 4:03So that's certainly something that we're focused on.
- 4:06We realize we're gonna have to deliver care,
- 4:09in different ways than we have before in
- 4:11order to meet the
- 4:13demands of the population that we serve.
- 4:16Along with that,
- 4:17a lot of our
- 4:19payer mix is going to be shifting toward
- 4:21Medicare
- 4:22as that population age
- 4:25shift occurs over the next 20 to 25
- 4:27years. And so really it just is gonna
- 4:29require us to be very
- 4:31operationally efficient.
- 4:33And it also is gonna require us as
- 4:35we transition
- 4:36away from the acute care settings more toward
- 4:39the ambulatory care settings to think about how
- 4:41we best position those ambulatory,
- 4:44sites of care for our patients, in this
- 4:46aging,
- 4:47demographic.
- 4:49I think that makes a lot of sense
- 4:50and, you know, it's really fascinating to think
- 4:52about those demographic trends. Now what else are
- 4:55you seeing?
- 4:57Well, certainly, you know, within the, the overall
- 5:01provider community including both physicians and APPs,
- 5:06we've talked a bit about burnout for a
- 5:08while now in healthcare and we certainly see
- 5:10that as administrative burdens within healthcare
- 5:13have increased. And so we're trying to think
- 5:15about
- 5:17how do we make our practice locations
- 5:19and our practice environments as optimal for the
- 5:22caregivers,
- 5:23as we possibly can. And and a big
- 5:25part of that is really thinking about how
- 5:27do we,
- 5:28lessen some of that administrative burden on our
- 5:30caregivers
- 5:31so that they can do what only they
- 5:33can do, which is really to provide care,
- 5:36at the frontline level to our patients.
- 5:39We're thinking one of the things we're thinking
- 5:41about is how do we leverage some of
- 5:42the artificial intelligence tools to help offload some
- 5:45of that work off of our caregivers
- 5:47so that really they can spend more quality
- 5:50time and more intense time with our patients,
- 5:52which is really what we want them to
- 5:53be able to do in the first place.
- 5:56I definitely appreciate that too. I I know
- 5:59in so many places across the country, having
- 6:01that ability to focus more on the patient
- 6:04and clinical care side is really a a
- 6:06lot more fulfilling for health care providers.
- 6:08Now looking at, as you mentioned, some of
- 6:11the demographic changes as well as, provider wellness,
- 6:14what are you most focused on right now
- 6:16and excited about?
- 6:20Really about,
- 6:21well, a couple of things that like I
- 6:23said, the, we've got a a tool that
- 6:25we're using right now, Nuance DAX,
- 6:28that is helping with documentation,
- 6:31for our providers. So we're very excited about
- 6:33that. We're also excited about the other
- 6:35artificial intelligence tools that are, coming along,
- 6:39to help us alleviate some of that care
- 6:41burden for our caregivers.
- 6:43That those are things that we're excited about.
- 6:46In addition to that, we're thinking about,
- 6:49how do we as you mentioned, we and
- 6:52I as you mentioned, we're thinking of our
- 6:54transition from, acute care to ambulatory care.
- 6:58And one of those is,
- 7:00what Mike Hlebowski has spoken about our our
- 7:02CEO,
- 7:03which is our community division and really thinking
- 7:06about how do we set up an appropriate
- 7:08governance and operating model
- 7:11for our community division, which, includes our medical
- 7:14groups as well as our efforts around ambulatory
- 7:16surgery centers and ambulatory imaging sites.
- 7:20I could imagine that takes a lot of
- 7:21work and time and effort and planning as
- 7:23well as resources, but, truly, it seems like
- 7:26it'll make a big difference for the community,
- 7:28you know, once,
- 7:30everything is fully in place, you know, and
- 7:32and you're able to live out that strategy,
- 7:34that vision of what it looks like to
- 7:36have that type of community support in in
- 7:38full ambulatory network.
- 7:41Well, looking back over the last 6 months
- 7:43or so, what are you most proud of?
- 7:47Well, there's a number of things I'm really
- 7:48proud of. I I guess I'd highlight 3,
- 7:51three things.
- 7:53First, the medical groups across Trinity have been
- 7:56doing incredible work on hypertension management.
- 8:00We've partnered with the, American Medical Association, American
- 8:03Heart Association's
- 8:05MAPBP
- 8:05program,
- 8:07to really leverage some of their best learnings
- 8:09around hypertension management.
- 8:12And we've seen incredible results and across across
- 8:15our medical groups, our rate of blood pressure
- 8:17control is getting,
- 8:19up toward 80%, which is really quite remarkable
- 8:22when you consider that the average across the
- 8:24country is probably closer to 45 to 50%.
- 8:28So really incredible work, and we're continuing to
- 8:30improve those overall rates of blood pressure control.
- 8:33So very, very, proud of all of the
- 8:36work that's gone into that on the part
- 8:38of our medical groups.
- 8:40In addition to that, you know, thinking about
- 8:42our work on access because we know that
- 8:45the experience that our patients and members have
- 8:48is really tied to their ability to get
- 8:51into our practice sites
- 8:52when they want and need care.
- 8:55And so really, as an organization doubling down
- 8:58to make sure that our patients can get
- 9:00in and be seen when they wanna be
- 9:03seen for care. And so that's been a
- 9:05big effort, and we've made,
- 9:07really incredible progress on that
- 9:09as we've
- 9:11increased our our rate of fulfillment in a
- 9:13way that we measure that access by about
- 9:168.5
- 9:17percentage points over the past year.
- 9:20And then finally, I'd mentioned the fact that
- 9:22from a stewardship perspective as all of us
- 9:25in healthcare have really faced this
- 9:28inflationary environment that
- 9:30we're continuing to face,
- 9:32really
- 9:34dramatic improvement in our overall
- 9:37operating performance with a
- 9:40significant improvement in our operating margin across all
- 9:42of Trinity Health Medical Groups,
- 9:44to the tune of 8 percentage point improvement.
- 9:48So really a lot of things to be
- 9:50proud of and and and the medical groups
- 9:52are doing tremendous work across Trinity Health.
- 9:56That's amazing to hear and and really impressive
- 9:59on all fronts when you think about, as
- 10:00you mentioned, some of the quality improvements and
- 10:02things you've been doing around that hypertension management.
- 10:05And then 2, and not to forget the
- 10:07financial aspect of it, in in having that
- 10:09improvement within the operating margin, I think so
- 10:12much, you know,
- 10:14sometimes it can get lost in terms of,
- 10:17having that ability to have the strong financial
- 10:20back bone in order to do everything else
- 10:22you wanna do to be innovative on the
- 10:23clinical side, it seems like it would make
- 10:25a really big difference.
- 10:28It really does. And and and I think
- 10:30all of us in health care are facing
- 10:31a lot of headwinds. And so,
- 10:34you know, declining reimbursements
- 10:36and frankly
- 10:38declining rates of Medicare reimbursement. And so it
- 10:41really is imperative for us to be able
- 10:43to continue to live out our mission that
- 10:44we steward our resources
- 10:47as well as we possibly can. And that
- 10:49really just demands
- 10:50a heightened level of operational
- 10:52performance and rigor across all of our medical
- 10:55groups.
- 10:57Fantastic. Well, before we wrap up here, I'm
- 11:00wondering what advice would you give evolving leaders
- 11:02today? What is really important for them to
- 11:05know and understand as they grow into the
- 11:07health care space?
- 11:09I think a couple of things. You know,
- 11:11I think for for leaders evolving leaders who
- 11:15have who come from a clinical background, I
- 11:18think it's really important to make sure
- 11:21that you bridge into the sort of business
- 11:24and financial sides of overall health care delivery,
- 11:27because I think that will really,
- 11:29amplify the voice of our clinician
- 11:32leaders, across health care.
- 11:35I think for folks that aren't that, you
- 11:37know, are leaders, evolving leaders, but haven't been
- 11:40historically
- 11:41involved in care delivery, getting close to care
- 11:44delivery, you know, at the front line to
- 11:46better understand it, I think will help facilitate
- 11:49their understanding of,
- 11:51exactly the the different challenges that are being
- 11:54faced across health care right now.
- 11:56And then I think more generally just saying,
- 11:58you know,
- 11:59be brave. Right? Step into the discomfort and
- 12:02find those troublesome problems
- 12:05or opportunities for improvement and step into those.
- 12:08Those they're the the the most challenging things
- 12:11to solve, but they're also the most rewarding
- 12:13things to solve. So I encourage
- 12:15I'd encourage,
- 12:17bravery in in stepping into those problem areas,
- 12:20within health care or within the health care
- 12:23system.
- 12:25I love that. Mark, thank you so much
- 12:26for joining us on the podcast today. This
- 12:28has been such a fascinating conversation, and I
- 12:30look forward to connecting with you again soon.
- 12:33Thank you so much, Laura. I really appreciate
- 12:35it.