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07/11/2023 580 Live with Dave Allen - Brad McElhinny, Riley Moore, and Jeff Jenkins · The Dave Allen Show

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twists than the Bob Huggins DUI case. Jeff Jenkins is going to join us
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to talk about that, coming up a little bit later on in the show.
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Also State Treasurer and congressional candidate Riley Moore is here as well. Want
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to welcome to the show, though, First up Metrodows State right of course
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finded Brad Michael Honey. Brad, Good morning, how are you? Oh
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Hey, good morning, I'm doing good. Lots to get to this morning.
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As I mentioned about Xavier's being on the court but sending me on a
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spiral of career doom I'll be great, all right, Well, I won't
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do that, but I did kind of tease the top of the show that
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there's more than this Bob Huggins situation. Of course, we have a complete
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story post at wd metro news dot com and I'll get into that a little
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bit more on the show with Jeff Jenkins. But you know you and also
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I'm wanted to spend some time talking about it tomorrow on the show as well.
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You're a government guy though, and I'm not going to put you on
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the spot here much with the Huggins, but you know, coach Huggins is
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the highest paid state employee. I mean, we kind of forget that sometimes
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the highest paid employee in the state is not the governor, it's not anybody
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that works in the tax department or anything. It is former Westvin Human's basketball
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coach Bob Huggins. Does any of that way into all this mass with you,
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that we are talking about this as it pertains to the highest paid state
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employee in the state, Well, you know, I will tell you,
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as a matter of timing and self awareness by Coach Huggs, the rest of
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the university is going through this right which we're going to get to, yeah,
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forty five million dollars down on the upcoming budget, and the university is
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previewing its departments, there are reductions in force. Most university employees are not
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going to lose their jobs. That is not much compensation if you are one
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of the people who does. And at the same moment, the very same
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moment, you've got the highest paid public employee in the state, Huggins,
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who just went through back to back scandals, who now is taking the position
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that he should still have his job. And it's you know, if you
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put the two things side by side, they're running simultaneously. It's it's just
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incredible when you compare his position and his situation with you know, your your
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average college professor at WVW worried about whether their program's going to get closed,
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whether they're going to be able to make the mortgage. You know, the
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member of the staff at WVU who's maybe put in however many years and their
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job is getting closed out. It's it's just incredible that he is just absolutely
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taking it to the match after back to back scandals, when the rest of
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WVU is worried about whether they're going to have a job. And I think
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that is an interesting parallel between the two situations. Anyhow, I'll get back
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to the hugging situation with Jeff Jenkins coming up a little bit later on the
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show. All right, let's talk about what's going on at West Virginia University.
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You've filed several reports on air and on the website about this. About
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half of the academic programs at West Virginia University brad or under review. Yes,
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and that doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to be closed out, but
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for a variety of reasons, mostly having to do with the size of the
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program or declining enrollment, those kinds of trends. There are, yeah,
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about half of either the programs or the academic units at WVU that are going
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to be further reviewed, and it could be with some of them there's there's
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no change in the end, but with others there could be reductions in terms
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of the staff supporting whatever program. There could be a close out entirely.
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They could be combined with other programs at the school. And with that kind
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of thing that the potential of combining, WVU tried to put, you know,
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kind of an optimistic based on it. They're trying not to panic people.
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But to say that there could be advantages combining this program with that program.
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Maybe maybe there's uh, you know, creative ways that they could function
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together. So over the next few weeks, this review is going to continue,
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and by September, WVU potentially likely is going to make some tough decisions
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about what program should remain and what would not. There were a couple that
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caught my eye in terms of what's under review. The public health program at
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w VIEW and I don't know the details. I mean, maybe maybe fewer
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kids are going into that. It just struck me that West Virginia is a
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pretty unhealthy state and could stand to have a strong public health program. The
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school, the law school of all things, Am I wrong? The only
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law school in the States, is I mean yeah? And and I think
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again, Brad, to jump into what you said there, the fact that
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we are the most unhealthy state in the Union, and we're probably probably have
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our fair share of attorneys that we have to call upon from time to time
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that though I don't know any we have any more than any other state.
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But but those two things being under review, or having having a cloud over
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them is kind of problematic, you know. Ap the associated Press got more
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into some of the specific programs than I did. My thought in doing the
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story was, well, I mean, if if half of the programs a
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wview are under review, there's no synth in listing them because you know,
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flip a coin. Yeah. But AP John Raby at the AP got a
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little more into that, and he lists engineering and mineral resources. I mean,
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it's West Virgineer for crying out, and this is the things that we
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build ourselves on? Is it minerals and resources? So how do we give
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in this situation? Brad? I mean, how does this sort of thing
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happen? I guess that's the sixty four thousand dollars question, as they say,
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but how did we get here? What w view points to is a
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couple of things. Essentially a declining level of student enrollment paths overall that students,
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of course pay tuition, and tuition counts as dollars towards these programs.
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They also count as people who who wind up in housing. And so if
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if student rollman is declining, WV can't afford the things that it once did.
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The other aspect of that is a little bit of post COVID response that
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if the world has changed and students are making different decisions than they once did.
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Um the effects of inflation have not entirely worn off, so that's caused
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additional expenses for WWU. And then you know there are there are other factors
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that university points toward less, but that close observers point toward more. One
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has been a question of whether WVU overexpanded in terms of its its capital improvements,
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whether it built up too much, particularly under the under the tenure of
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Warden g and now can't afford the things that it built. Another question has
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been the level of state funding, which generally has dropped off, particularly when
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you look at the inflation rate. So you know, if if if the
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legislature had continued to allocate, adjusted for inflation, a level amount for higher
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education, would WVU be in this situation, might have closed the gap.
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That's that's the question. There so a variety of things, but the bottom
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line WV says is we didn't count on such a steady change in student behavior
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that students are just not picking to BVU at the rate that they used to.
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And of course there's going to be a bigger spotlight on WVU because it
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is the land Grand institution. It is the largest university of the state.
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But it would be interesting to possibly have this conversation with a Marshall University at
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some point, which will we'll work on. I want to switch gears here
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quickly, Brad, and I want to talk some more dollars and cents though,
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uh and as in you've got to have a lot of dollars or it
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makes no sense. See what I did there to even attempt to run for
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office these days. There are some figures that came out on Friday, So
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help our listener, I'm talking about political candidates, of course, help our
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listeners understand the importance of the numbers that came out and were made made public
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on Friday as far as the of the campaign contributions go, well, that
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governor's race, so to my mind, the fundraising for governor and the recent
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poll by the Chamber of Commerce almost for candid in hand, and what I
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saw out of that, in fairness, hopefully all the candidates, sorry everybody,
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but you know what you see is Patrick Morrissey, the current Attorney General
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and more capita, son of the US Senator and the House Judiciary chairman.
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What you see is them jumping out in front in both situations. The polling
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by the Chambers showed them thirty one for Morrissey, thirty percent for more Capita,
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and the other candidates lagging behind somewhat. The fundraising shows you something similar.
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Morrissey reported raising one point three million dollars in the most recent fundraising period.
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He had a he had a fundraising filing of more than four hundred pages,
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and in the bank. He's got a little over a million dollars cash
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on hand. Morrissey doesn't. More Capita raised less during the period two hundred
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and eighty eight thousand dollars during the quarter, but has about a million dollars
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overall in his campaign funds that he can spend. The other candidates were a
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bit less. But the wild card is Chris Miller, the auto dealer,
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the son of Congressman Congressmoman Carol Miller. He's got more than three million dollars
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in the bank, but much of it is his own money, so it's
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there as a political weapon if he wants to use it, but it's not
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been clear yet because he's going to harness his own dollars and put it into
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the race. I think if I were a Betty Man which I am.
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I would have to say, yeah, he's he's probably gonna do that,
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all right, Brad, we gotta we gotta leave it here. I do
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want to ask you, what do you watch you today? Everybody's keeping an
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eye on Huggins. I know you are as well, and Jeff and the
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news team Mark too, but what else are you taking a look at today
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in the in the in the scope of news, Brad Well, in an
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obligatory thing, we've done stories about how the Mountain Valley pipeline is clear to
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go. The Congress made it so that it would get through all of its
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regulatory hurdles. Well, there was a court ruling just last late yesterday yesterday
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evening, saying that the challenge the right of Congress to clear the decks that
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way, and the Mountain Valley pipeline is yet again on hold. So it
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feels like a bit of a yo yo situation, to be honest. But
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because we reported it's clear to go, we now need to report that it
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is not so clear to go. Okay, and you'll be keeping an eye
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on that all day, as I know you have, Brad always as always,
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a great job, sir, and we will talk soon. Thanks.
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West Virginia being called the unhealthiest state, I wonder if anyone has taken the
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time to average out how many of those people are actually elderly. Since we
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have a majority of elderly citizens just curious. Well, I think we're an
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unhealthy state. We even if you take the elderly out. I think a
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press of company included on that. Dave's student enrollment, it's declining because the
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cost of college is more expensive and the return is a comparable tuition. Housing
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get raised to pay for the big salaries of Huggins and Gee and ridiculously lavash,
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slavish sports complexes. Perhaps I have an academic institutions need to get back
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to being academic institution instead of sports factories. Well, the problem with that
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is, and I don't disagree entirely with what the callers or the texture is
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saying there, but the problem is you can't have those big academic facilities without
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sports because that's what pays the bills. That's just kind of the way we
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are. Stay Treasure and candidate for Congress, Riley Morris, here's Treasure.
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Good morning, Dave, Good morning all. Yes, sir, great,
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it's good to see you. Good to see you as well. Um,
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So, before we get to the treasure stuff, how's they how's the campaign
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going form? It is going great. Um, you know, we're certainly
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winning. I think we're gonna prevail in this election, and you know we're
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gonna keep working hard. We're out there talking to people, generating more and
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more support every day every month. You know, we've got a quarter coming
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up here. We're gonna report we've outraised every one it consistently, and I
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think that's going to continue in that way. And as we've seen some public
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polling out there, you know we're far and away in the lead. I
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think it's if we keep the pressure on Key porking hard, it's going to
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remain that way. I want to get back to your day job right now,
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and that is the state treasurer. I see your office putting out all
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all kinds of infa all the time about unclaimed properties and a lot of cash
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that's gone back to West Virginia's recently to the tune of twenty six point three
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million dollars. Now, this is the first time, and reading some of
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your literature, the first time the state has ever gone past the twenty million
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dollar threshold. So I guess, I guess. The first question is,
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mister treasure just for clarity, how does your name and how does an individual's
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name end up on this list saying that you have unclaimed property. Oh yeah,
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So that's a great question because people ask all the time what is unclaimed
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property. Unclaimed property is essentially dormant financial assets. And let me put that
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in plain language. Let's say you had a bank account that went dormant,
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means it's not been acted upon in years and essentially through time. It is
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then found to be dormant, and the bank then turns that money over to
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the state. It could be securities that have gone dormant. It could be
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checks that are stale and what I mean by that they were never cashed.
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Then their returned to the state. So life insurance policy could be that as
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well, that has gone dormant and then was never acted upon. So as
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eventually those things come back to the state Treasurer's office, as they do in
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every state in America. And so we have three hundred million dollars in unclaimed
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property, about three million different potential claims out there, and my job is
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to return that money to its rightful owner. And now let's say that riful
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owner has deceased and it does pass on to the next akin as well,
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and we've had that happen as well as some of the claims. So that's
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it. In a nutshell, is what unclaimed property is, and we got
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a whole lot of it. So how how do you go back getting into
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touch with people to let though that they have money waiting on them. Well,
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we do outreach through our field staff, but then we also send letters
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out to individuals. So if you get a letter from my office that says
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you have unclaimed property, this is not a scam. It is on our
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letterhead. It is official. Say, how do you know the difference?
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I mean, most scammers don't use the mail for one thing, my phone
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call or whatever. But but it's on it's on letterhead. Yes, it
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is on letterhead, it has my signature on it, and it is real,
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and you can call the number that is on that letter that we send
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to you. But most importantly, we have a new program, and this
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is how we broke records. Really, we modernized unclaimed property. I had
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a bill two sessions ago that modernize the Unclaimed Property Act. That's enabled us
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to return so much unclaimed property. And part of that is the cash Now
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program. So in between a hundred and five thousand dollars, we can just
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automatically send that money out to those individuals who the property belongs to and last
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year we sent out about four million dollars worth of checks. Now, not
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all of those checks were cash because I think some people are not sure if
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it is real. That is why I'm on the radio here with you today,
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Dave, to tell the listeners it is real. When we send you
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a check, you will see an official check from the State of West Virginia
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with my signature on it as well as the auditor JB. Mccusky. We
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sign all checks that come from the state of West Virginia, and you see
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those two signatures and the letter that accompanies that that is real. That is
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real money, and please cash those checks. And I'm happy to announce it.
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Next week our office is going to start the second round of cash now
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checks coming out and we're talking about four point two million dollars that we're going
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to start sending out, So please cash those checks. So I mean,
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what you're saying is I could have gotten a check in the mail U S
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sent to my home and I get it out and I think, Okay,
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this is publisher's clearing house or something something like that, or one of those
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two cent checks that you get on a rebate for something, and I get
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a check and people could just be tossing these things away. Yes, and
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that has happened where they get tossed. Now, the good news is if
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you toss that check, it does come back to unclaimed property, and so
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the check then those dollars then retained with us and we will make a second
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or third, or however many attempts it takes to get that money back to
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its rightful owner. I want to talk about the scam aspect, and I
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actually got a text about this. Somebody said that they that they were contact
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and I've had actually other people that have contacted the of the show in the
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past about this and said that they were contacted and that they were asked for
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a social Security number. Now, your office, are they going to do
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that? Are they going to ask for so we do have to verify uh.
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There there is a verification method within this. But you know, if
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you are not sure, uh, and somebody is asking for that, look
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go to w V Unclaimed Property dot gov and we lay out all the different
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kinds of documents that we're going to need to be able to verify that.
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You can also call our number if you don't feel comfortable taught. If somebody
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has called you and you don't feel comfortable, call our number. It's on
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our website wv Treasury dot com. You can go there wv Treasury dot gov
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and call our mainline and or click on unclaimed property and call that mainline and
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just verify it with us. We do this. We have claimant specialists that
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just answer calls and emails all day long. Okay. And because that,
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as I said, I've had people reach out to the show. Actually had
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somebody in my family contact me about that and they said, well, they
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wouldn't ask for my Social Security number. Well we could that that could be
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part of that. I've learned something today. Yeah, And you know,
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it just depends on what type of property we're talking about. How we're trying
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to verify that on our end, and the best thing would be to call
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the office. I mean, if you have a question, you talked to
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a live human being. When you call the office, we have live human
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beings. They're just waiting to answer your phone. Call tech, says Dave.
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It was very cool to see former mountaineer Owen Schmidt be presented an unclaimed
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property check of almost ten thousand dollars at Mountaineer Field. Yes, oh my
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gosh, that's the runaway beer truck. The runaway beer truck. And I
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was flashing back. I'm sure the listening audience remembers this, and you do
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too. I was talking to him. I was like, I remember seeing
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you and Pat White and Steve Slayton on the cover of Sports Illustrated. You
25:32
were right, remember the three of them, they were sitting there on the
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cover Sports Illustrated. What an amazing team that was. And to be able
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to meet him, he still looks like he's ready to play. Yes,
25:42
he is in very good shape. He looks like he's ready to go.
25:47
He mentioned when we got the unclaimed property check back to him, and part
25:52
of that check, by the way, was a payment from the NFL.
25:55
And really, yes, yes, because I think he knew treasure. I
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think when you hear uncleimed property, people automatically assume that it's property, that
26:03
it's a land and in Hancock County or something that's not necessarily what it is.
26:08
No, no, it's not. This was it check that went uncashed.
26:11
That was to Owen Schmidt from the NFL. Oh okay, and uh,
26:17
it may have gone to the wrong ad dress or what have you.
26:19
And so then the the check uh then remits to us, and then we
26:26
we saw his name on there. I'm like the runaway beer truck that Now
26:32
it turns out it was Wow. Yeah, I'll actually be with Owen Schmidt
26:36
later this week a up in Morgantown. And he can still knock the crap
26:38
out of a golf ball too. I've seen that on Friday. That would
26:41
not surprise me. When I was talking to him up there, uh in
26:45
Morgantown, he was like, yeah, you know, I'm probably gonna get
26:48
a workout in while I'm here. I'm like, made you look like you're
26:51
ready to play. We had a text here for we gonna know you gotta
26:53
go to do some other things with Texas. For Riley Moore, what has
26:56
been the largest uncleaned property dollar I'm out ever given to one person? Oh
27:00
gosh, off top of my head. Some of them that are rather large.
27:08
The individuals don't like to be identified. But we're close to half million
27:15
dollars somewhere in that ballpark. So all right, So tell people where they
27:18
can log on for more information. I mean, yeah, we have an
27:22
online database now and that's at WV Unclaimed Property dot gov. That's we now
27:29
have the dot gov there to ensure people that this is not a scamp.
27:33
You can also go to wv Unclaimed Property dot Com if you'd like, you
27:37
know, to revert to the dot gov, but we have an online database.
27:41
You can search your name there. That's been part of our modernization in
27:44
this process. That's allowed us to be able to return a record setting amount
27:48
of unclaimed property back to the citizens of West Virginia. And go to that
27:51
website. Look your name up, look your grandparents up, your parents,
27:53
your aunt's, uncle's, cousins, anybody, and let them know that you
27:57
got unclaimed property out there. If you have one of those big amounts.
28:00
Just remember the Dave is your cousin. Yeah, that's right to Just remember
28:03
to look up cousin day All right, final thing, very important before you
28:08
get out of here. You and I have been known to text back and
28:11
forth about the NFL on Sundays. I'm a Cowboys fan. You're a team
28:14
of the Hold on, now, I'll cut the microphone. You're a fan
28:18
of the team known as the Commanders. Do you want to go ahead and
28:21
get the division title to the Cowboys? Now? Negative? And look we're
28:25
gonna be I've been praying for this. This tells you the power of prayer.
28:30
Daniel Snyder is leaving, He's selling the team. We are going to
28:34
be in a much different position than we were previously. He has been a
28:38
plague on the Redskins or is they're called the Commanders Now I still call them
28:44
the Redskins all the time because I said that my whole wife. He's been
28:47
a plague on this franchise ever since he took it over. I think we're
28:49
gonna be in a much better position. We'll see what Riverboat Ron cooks up.
28:55
And look, now, I mean the Cowboys, most overrated team in
28:59
the NFL, have bank for decades, and it's just they're like the Notre
29:04
Dame of the Okay, that's enough, all right, we got it.
29:07
We got the point. All right. One serious question before I let you
29:10
go. We'd have a text somebody says, my deceased mother has unclaimed property.
29:14
How do I handle that? Yeah? Now that one you are going
29:17
to want to call us on because there's gonna be some additional verification requirements in
29:21
that. So go to our website and you will see a phone number that
29:25
you can call there. There's WV Unclaimed Property dot Gov. That takes additional
29:30
verification because you can claim those funds all right. Always pleasure having on the
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or four nine three five five zero zero away. Jeff Jenkins joins us from
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the news room. Jeff, I think I'm just going to go ahead and
33:01
start a new segment here. Maybe we can get our sales. Weasels on
33:05
it. Hear me out. We're gonna call it as the Huggins Turns,
33:08
where I'll bring you in every morning to update us on the latest in the
33:12
saga former wvman's basketball coach Bob Huggins, except he doesn't want to be referred
33:16
to as a former coach anymore. Joe Bracado's got that STORYWV Metro News dot
33:21
com. What did yesterday bring us? Jeff Well, We a couple of
33:24
things. One is that the Huggins attorney, David Campbell, they responded to
33:31
the WVU response from Saturday. Remember they sent a letter on Friday. The
33:39
Huggins camp sent a letter on Friday saying he did not resign, he's expecting
33:45
his reinstatement. WV responded point by point on Saturday. Then Huggins's attorney,
33:52
David Campbell sent back, you know, a letter yesterday in response to that
33:57
saying, hey, you had a question. If I'm his attorney, i
34:00
am his attorney, and let me reiterate this is why we we believe that
34:05
he is still the coach. He did not resign. And so then WVU
34:08
responded again saying he's not the coach and he's not going to be the coach,
34:15
and here's here are the reasons why. Plus Bob Huggins himself. Whereas
34:21
that says at the top of the statement, Robert E. Huggins media statement
34:27
or a statement saying that you know, he's the basketball coach he fully expects
34:31
to return that he's sorry for you know, you know or whatever. I
34:37
don't have the wording right in front of me about what happened in Pittsburgh.
34:40
He's checked himself into a world class rehabilitation center at which he will be completed
34:47
soon, which he expects to help. What he says is the basketball program
34:52
that is now in trouble, in troubable because of anyway. But anyway,
34:58
but somebody pointed out me last night Jeff wanted by friends text me and said,
35:00
what a way to throw everyone at the university under the bus. I
35:06
mean, this happens to him and he just says, hey, they need
35:08
me now. I mean, that's a little full of yourself there, coach.
35:12
And he is one of the all time greats in the history of college
35:14
basketball. I get that, but oh absolutely one of the best to ever
35:16
do it, not only West Virginia but nationwide. But a little arrogant there,
35:22
coach. So that so he put out the statement, and so he
35:24
put out that statement too, So that all came yesterday. So now we'll
35:30
see. Still the ball goes back into the hugs. Is David Campbell Now
35:34
since WV said listen, let Stephanie Taylor their general counsel, pretty straightforward again
35:40
in the letter, so you know, saying let me tell you again,
35:45
let me make this clear. The resignation will not be revoked. He's not
35:51
the basketball coach. So if you have any other proposals that we can talk
35:55
about, let us know. So now we'll see if there's an answer from
36:00
David Campbell to that, is he going to file a lawsuit and does this
36:05
thing then get you know, legally tied up and we'll see what happens that
36:09
you and I talked about this shaft? Is this about money in your opinion?
36:13
I mean part of it part that's the big question. The big question
36:19
is you would have to think the educated guess is yeah, some of it's
36:22
about money, because usually all of these things are about money. But is
36:25
it all about money? Or does coach Huggins people telling him does he really
36:34
believe that he is as he says in the statement, still the coach,
36:38
does he really does he really believe that and that that can actually happen?
36:45
Um, you know, I mean all of this is possibility to be obviously
36:50
legal, uh hashed out in some kind of lawsuit or you know, does
36:57
it you know, WU says, you know, we're not change it.
37:00
So if you've got another proposal, let us know what it is. Um
37:05
So, do they have another proposal or do they continue to say do they
37:09
triple down and say no, you know, we believe he is the coach.
37:14
We're gonna fall suit and we're gonna we're actually fall suit. What about
37:17
the charges on the DUI in Pittsburgh, because Pennsylvania's kind of got a little
37:21
bit of Walkee. So that's a that's a that's new information that we were
37:23
able to gather yesterday from the Allegheny County UH District Attorney in Pittsburgh. And
37:30
so we knew about this early on after he was arrested. That we learned
37:35
and we found out I think sometime last week maybe that that Pennsylvania does have
37:40
a basically a pre trial diversion program. I mesk basically what it is that
37:45
the state of Pennsylvania for first time offenders, and those people have texted me,
37:47
well, he's not first time, Well he is considered first time in
37:51
Pennsylvania because his DUI was more than ten years ago. That's first time and
37:54
it was in Ohio. Um, so he is considered a first time offender.
37:59
And so Pennsylvania has this program. If you're a first time DOUI offender,
38:07
non violent DUI offender, which this was a non violent incident, then
38:10
you the possibility is you can you can you can qualify and it's the DA
38:19
who has to qualify you. You can qualify for this diversion program, which
38:22
would basically end in charges being dismissed and the record being expunged, like it
38:28
never happened, right right, excuse me, like it never happened. Uh.
38:30
And so we knew that was a possibility. So I want to check
38:35
with the DA. Yesterday they say, yes, he has been accepted.
38:37
I mean we we says he we the office said that he has basically qualified
38:44
for that or we have agreed to take him into that program. We think
38:47
his case qualifies for that. So then they're they gave gave us. Uh,
38:52
here are the five things that he'll have to do to have this happen,
38:58
and kind of typical things that you would think. Uh, you know,
39:01
he'll be in that program for six to twelve months. Basically probation kind
39:06
of alcohol educationhol education, driving school, a fine, you know, fee
39:12
you'll have to pay, community service. Yeah, just you know five or
39:16
six things. There are five things I think in our store. If you
39:19
read at wv Metro news dot com. And if he does that, then
39:22
yeah, the record will be will be expunged. It'll be clear. He's
39:27
scheduled to be back in Cortonock seventeen now he is. I think they're a
39:30
different levels. So if your DUI, if your blood alcohol content is lower
39:36
than you know, probably some of the things you have to do is not
39:39
as much as others. They did point out the prosecutor's office there in Alleghany
39:45
County, Pennsylvania did point out to me as I reached out and we were
39:49
exchanging information, that this is similar to what others who would have that high
39:54
of it. And they call this the highest level of this program because of
39:59
his BAC point two one zero. Yeah. Uh, that that that this
40:02
is similar to what they offer other people that our charge. It's not like
40:07
he's getting a deal, O. No, I mean this is what they
40:08
offer. That said they And they said it's mainly statutory, which means it's
40:13
in law. Right, Yeah, yeah, it's you're a WU gad,
40:15
Jeff, And I know I'll let you back to the newsroom, but do
40:17
you're a WU guy? Did you ever think that it would end like this
40:21
for one of, as I said earlier, not only the greatest coaches that
40:24
West Virginia University has ever had on campus, but one of the great NC
40:28
double A coaches of all time. Heading into this season with Beheim out,
40:32
he was going to be the all time if I understand correctly, all time
40:36
winning this active coach. Did you ever think it would end like this?
40:38
I mean, I mean nothing, and I hate to give the old cliche
40:44
nothing surprised, but nothing surprises you. I mean, it really doesn't.
40:47
Uh. You know, Bob Huggins is a very successful coach, and there's
40:54
a lot of power that goes with that, and you know, there's a
40:58
lot of things. I mean, this is all he's done. Right.
41:00
Cincinnati thing was messy, Dave, remember that when he left, that was
41:06
a that was a messy type deal. So this is not it's not really
41:09
kind of unlike that in a way, you know, because that ended in
41:14
a messy way and he was able to take a year off come back to
41:15
Kansas State, the w job opened up, and he came back. He
41:20
came back to his alma mater um. So I don't know. I mean,
41:25
it's these are powerful jobs, right, I mean, and when that
41:29
comes though a lot of responsibility. And I keep hearing a lot of the
41:34
WV faithful and others saying, well, you know, he among you who
41:37
was not saying let you cast the first stone and whatever. I'm also not
41:40
Bob Huggins, you know. And and there's a different like it or not
41:45
when you are in the public eye, whether you're sports, whether you're a
41:46
movie star, one of us, whatever, you have a different spotlight on
41:52
you. And and that's just the and that's just the way it is.
41:54
Well, a couple of that with the radio in exactly my next point.
41:59
Yeah, I mean he was on ten ice anyway. Yes, they basically
42:01
said at WVU, if you screw up one more time, they changed his
42:05
contract and ex maybe to win your contract, right, and uh. And
42:10
what he did on the radio Cincinnati was not a crime. This is a
42:14
crime what he did in Pennsylvania. Jeff, I know, you gotta go.
42:16
I appreciate it. I'll have you on again tomorrow. So for another
42:19
it might be another it might be another letter. I mean maybe David Campbell,
42:22
the Cleveland attorney may respond, Yeah, it's his balls in his court
42:27
now, So all right, Jeff, I appreciate it. We'll be following
42:30
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VU didn't start this fight. Huggins, by his act did and it needs
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45:37
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Valley, this name certainly means something. Gentleman by the name of Paul Hartlington,
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46:08
to West Virginia for sure. And as I said a regular listener to this
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back to my comments about sports Texas, if sports pay the bills, then
46:22
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realizing that not everybody needs to go to college. And I talked about this
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46:52
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46:54
college, or you got to go to the military or whatever, and that
46:59
simply wasn't the case. For a lot of people. As far as the
47:04
textures point, I agree with it to a certain extent. However, again
47:07
I'll use I'll use my personal experience. I was at Marshall University. I
47:12
went to community college for two years, went to Marshall University for two years
47:15
as well. I was at Marshall from nineteen ninety to nineteen ninety two.
47:19
I was there when they built the Big Stadium. If you drive down Third
47:22
Avenue or anywhere in Huntington for that matter, and you see all these wonderful
47:28
buildings that are popping up, none of which was there when I was a
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student there in the nineteen nineties. A great deal of that is because of
47:36
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47:40
years and so on, and it's continued even beyond that. That's just where
47:45
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47:50
to the academic world, people don't pay money to go to science fairs.
47:52
They pay money to go see football teams and basketball teams. That's where we
47:57
are day. Please don't make fun of the Huggins situation. This is a
48:02
tragic issue. Thank you. I didn't didn't realize it was. But okay,
48:07
Tech says Dave Huggins did the same thing that you see, he should
48:10
not be given a chance to wipe away his DUI record. Well, that's
48:15
the law in the state of Pennsylvania, as Jeff explained to us, And
48:19
you may not like it, but that's the law and Huggins in this situation.
48:22
And again Jeff was working the phones yesterday with the prosecutors in Allegheny County,
48:27
which is where Pittsburgh is. That it's the law there, and so
48:32
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Strawn will return to talk about Live on the Levey sponsored by the Moses Auto
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Group. Jim has been off for a couple of weeks since the Levy has
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been on hiatus, but it's back Friday at had Ed Riverfront Park as Moses
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presents Live on the Levey. It's all on Friday, so just make just
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make notes of that. Godn't want to bring up something here real quick as
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we close out the show as it stands now, if the twenty twenty four
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presidential election or to be held tomorrow, we would be looking at another matchup
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featuring President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump. Now you know my thoughts
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on both. Four hundred million people in America, and the best we can
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do are a mumbling old man who doesn't know what planet he's on and a
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former president who won't admit that he lost the last election and was responsible for
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a ride at the Capitol. That's it. That's why we got, folks,
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and you've heard me complained about it. But I'm not alone. And
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if you need another poll to see what America thinks about it, last month,
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yet another poll was released which pretty much agrees with me, this one
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from The Economist and you gov. According to that poll, only thirty three
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percent of voters, regardless of party, want Trump to run again and twenty
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six percent want Joe Biden to run now again regardless of party, only thirty
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three percent of all overall voters want Trump to run and only twenty six percent
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of overall voters want Joe Biden to run back. In April, NBC's poll
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said seventy percent of Americans do not want Biden to run at seventy percent folks,
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and sixty percent don't want Donald Trump to run. And one of the
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major reasons that people don't want either to run. I mean, can forget
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the fact that Joe Biden's barely alive, that Donald Trump is corrupt. It
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has to do with their ages. Their combined ages is like five hundred and
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seventy three or something. We can do better. And I know that sounds
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agist, but when we're referring to a couple of people like Rhonda Santis and
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Nicky Haley, I'm just using them as an example. De Santus is forty
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four and Nicky Haley's fifty one. We're referring to them as being younger alternatives.
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At fifty one and forty four, both are younger than I am.
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We gotta, in my opinion, make some sort of a generational change in
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this country. We got, we got to, But all right, phone
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I apologize. I'll try to do better on the show tomorrow. Speaking
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of the show tomorrow. Coming up on the show tomorrow, more on the
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Huggins situation. Jim Workman of Wiley and Whippie Sports Digest is going to join
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us for that. Plus why is it we're gonna play amateur psychology? Just
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why is it that young people don't want to work? I got an author
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by the name of Kate Farmer who's a member of the Zoomer generation, and
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she's going to join us to talk about it. Dave Wilson and talk like
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coming up from our producer Hollywood, Jeff Penny, thank you so much to
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